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South Carolina Dixiecrats Tank Effort to Gain a Congressional Seat, Voting With the Declared Democrats to Kill It
Indiana redux.
VoteHubMany South Carolina "Republicans" remain old south Democrats.
@VoteHub 12m The South Carolina Senate has rejected extending the legislative session for redistricting. Unless Gov. McMaster calls a special session, the current congressional map, including Rep. Clyburn’s Democratic-leaning district, will remain in place.
And they just showed that once again.
One of the RINOs admitted he just didn't like Republicans having so much power and claims the "number one" ambition of the "founders" was to "diffuse" power.
A group of South Carolina Republican state senators broke with their party to thwart a redistricting effort that would eliminate the Palmetto State's sole Democratic district. Though the measure received 29 votes in favor and a mere 17 against, it did not clear the threshold for passage. State Sens. Sean Bennett, Chip Campsen, Tom Davis, Greg Hembree, and Shane Massey joined Democrats in opposing the measure. The failure of the Tuesday vote significantly narrows the pathway for state lawmakers to redistrict in time for the midterms, though the governor could call a special session of the legislature.
Matt RiceLook at the RINOs spam out completely-insincere excuses for why they remain loyal Democrats:
@matt____rice 1h As of now, three Republican South Carolina state senators are opposed to redistricting. It takes 4 to block the resolution allowing lawmakers to proceed with redistricting. - Massey
- Rankin
- Campsen Campsen says the founders' "number one" principle was to "diffuse" political power among the states.
Adam MorganTrump wanted you to do this so this is a threat to "state sovereignty" ? How about your own voters demanding it? Are they a threat to "state sovereignty" too? This guy also lied and claimed he was blocking it to help Republicans win seats. He claimed, based on nothing, that if you changed the districts Democrats would still win one and could even win an extra seat. But a tweet I linked earlier showed that the new districts would all have commanding advantages in GOP voters, ranging from +11 to +26. In other words, he's lying, and he can't give his real reason, which is that he is, was, and always will be a dirty Dixiecrat loyal to the Democrat Party. It just became too hard to win in SC as an open Democrat.
@RepAdamMorgan 🚨Senator Massey claims redistricting is a threat to state sovereignty. Claims @realDonaldTrump is abusing his power and overreaching into SC! Insane that a Republican would say this. And a blatant lie.
The President only recently weighed into the debate and by Massey's own admissions didn't unduly pressure. The movement to redistrict originated from grassroots South Carolina conservatives!
Legislators in the @SCFreedomCaucus filed to bill to redistrict in January! Grassroots leaders like @ImFiredUp2 and myself, conservative media like @CharlieOnAir and @TaraServatius, and statewide figures like @RalphNorman have been relentless in pushing to fix this unconstitutional district for months especially since the SCOTUS ruling. Make no mistake--South Carolinians are the ones demanding to follow the constitution and right this wrong. And "Republican" senators spouting Clyburn's talking points and attacking their constituents and President Trump need to be thrown out of office. Redistrict NOW!
Kristan Hawkins
@KristanHawkins Unacceptable. South Carolina Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey (@shanemassey) is once again standing in the way of conservative priorities by trying to block redistricting legislation, just like he's spent this year blocking @SFLAction backed pro-life legislation from even being brought up for a vote. @POTUS has made it clear that Republicans must fight back from the Left's power grab and redistricting efforts. It's time for Sen. Massey to stop obstructing, listen to the people of South Carolina, protect Congress from a Leftist takeover that wants to stack the Supreme Court and legalize taxpayer-funded abortions up until birth, and stand with the pro-life movement instead of against it.
Now I think they needed a supermajority to extend the legislative session, but if the governor calls a special session, a majority will suffice. I think.
🚨 BREAKING: RINOS JUST BLOCKED 2026 REDISTRICTING IN SOUTH CAROLINA, 29-17
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) May 12, 2026
*No* 7R-0D map yet, but a SPECIAL SESSION could bypass the RINO obstruction!
Here's the IMMEDIATE list of Senate RINOs who voted NO — time for Indiana round 2 and SWIFT MAGA PRIMARIES:
Sean Bennett… pic.twitter.com/ttbuZNM9zd
The New Proposed Redistricted South Carolina Map With 2024 Margins:
— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) May 11, 2026
SC 01: 🔴 Trump +14
SC 02: 🔴 Trump +15
SC 03: 🔴 Trump +26
SC 04: 🔴 Trump +23
SC 05: 🔴 Trump +19
SC 06: 🔴 Trump +11
SC 07: 🔴 Trump +18 pic.twitter.com/QJgz969u46
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/plants flag
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at May 12, 2026 05:36 PM (OUMaO)
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NOODed. IF anyone else wanders in and wonders.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at May 12, 2026 05:37 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at May 12, 2026 05:37 PM (OUMaO)
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In breaking news - South Carolina fired on Fort Sumter. Tourist boats have taken casualties. The Charleston Chamber of Commerce has convened to cofer about their response.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:38 PM (Gqar8)
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So this Massey can lick my assie along with the other assie Massie?
Posted by: Elric the Blade at May 12, 2026 05:38 PM (rMqEI)
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Unexpectedly !!!
Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at May 12, 2026 05:38 PM (3ZUWJ)
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The GOP has an aversion to change. The status quo has always ensured that their beaks have been wet.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:39 PM (Gqar8)
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Campsen says the founders' "number one" principle was to "diffuse" political power among the states.
'Facts' pulled out of one's ass for $500 Alex
'Facts' pulled out of one's ass for $500 Alex
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:40 PM (qrzX6)
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It's a whiplash these days.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2026 05:40 PM (n5tGW)
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Odds on the special session?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 12, 2026 05:40 PM (z2aPa)
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If redistricting does nothing else besides expose the RINOs, it will have been well worth while. It's ironic that an animal known for putting lead in pencils is also a name for these limp, flaccid, invertebrates.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:40 PM (Riz8t)
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Vote them out.
Hell, can they be recalled?
Hell, can they be recalled?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2026 05:41 PM (4KUe5)
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11 If redistricting does nothing else besides expose the RINOs, it will have been well worth while. It's ironic that an animal known for putting lead in pencils is also a name for these limp, flaccid, invertebrates.
And yes, I know there's an "h" in one and not the other.
And yes, I know there's an "h" in one and not the other.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:41 PM (Riz8t)
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🚨Senator Massey claims redistricting is a threat to state sovereignty.
Claims @realDonaldTrump is abusing his power and overreaching into SC!
Insane that a Republican would say this. And a blatant lie
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The pictures must be really bad.
Claims @realDonaldTrump is abusing his power and overreaching into SC!
Insane that a Republican would say this. And a blatant lie
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The pictures must be really bad.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 12, 2026 05:41 PM (2WIwB)
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What is it with these Massies being limpdicked faggots?
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:41 PM (oqH4h)
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There are lots of deeply closeted democraps pretending to be "republicans". Funny how it rarely seems to work the other way.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (V362x)
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South Carolina meet Indiana.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (Cqx++)
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10 Odds on the special session?
Posted by: Ben Had
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Strictly from what I've read, McMasters is a term limited outgoing governor so he doesn't have to please Trump (like Kemp in GA) unless he has higher aspirations. The redistricting would probably pass in a special session but the key is getting McMasters to call for it. He seems lukewarm about it.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Strictly from what I've read, McMasters is a term limited outgoing governor so he doesn't have to please Trump (like Kemp in GA) unless he has higher aspirations. The redistricting would probably pass in a special session but the key is getting McMasters to call for it. He seems lukewarm about it.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (E4rtv)
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how many votes were needed?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (n5tGW)
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This guy also lied and claimed he was blocking it to help Republicans win seats. He claimed, based on nothing, that if you changed the districts Democrats would still win one and could even win an extra seat.
Primary him, that works as we saw last week in indiana.
Primary him, that works as we saw last week in indiana.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (0N4FZ)
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The only caveat I have about the proposed map is that it’s based on 2024 Trump votes. I’m not sure that carries over to a midterm without Trump on the ballot. I suspect it does not. I would cut the numbers at least in half of we’re looking for accurate R+ numbers. R+ ain’t T+.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (rMqEI)
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And again, the GOP as it is defined does not want change. Change involves unpredictability, and they have all grown hugely fat and comfortable with the status quo. Trump and MAGA seriously threaten business as usual.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (Gqar8)
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>>Campsen says the founders' "number one" principle was to "diffuse" political power among the states.
Then get rid of the 17th Amendment.
Then get rid of the 17th Amendment.
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (xkXS7)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (3ek7K)
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Liberals would be on TikTok threatening their families at this point.
Perhaps the conservatives are waiting for nicer weather to turn the torching of buildings into a barbecue celebration. Two birds, one stone.
And the hits keep coming....
MS Now "Bruce Springsteen slams treasonous Trump."
Damn, could this get any worse?
Perhaps the conservatives are waiting for nicer weather to turn the torching of buildings into a barbecue celebration. Two birds, one stone.
And the hits keep coming....
MS Now "Bruce Springsteen slams treasonous Trump."
Damn, could this get any worse?
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (Sco7b)
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Gop protecting Clyburn,, no way i shan't believe it!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (SC8Ww)
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What? A surrender flag?
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (Ia/+0)
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Welllllp, looks like Clyburn can hold off on that book deal grind and stay in Congress until he's... 88, good lord. You'd think people would be ashamed.
Welllllp, looks like Clyburn can hold off on that book deal grind and stay in Congress until he's... 88, good lord. You'd think people would be ashamed.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (XJ22o)
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16 There are lots of deeply closeted democraps pretending to be "republicans". Funny how it rarely seems to work the other way.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese
You have to have closed primaries and best if nominations for candidates are vetted by local party committees. Party Activists generally know who the slugs and infiltrators are. Even that is not a guarantee as for example Utah's RINO governor corrupted the party convention rules to get the GOP nom.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese
You have to have closed primaries and best if nominations for candidates are vetted by local party committees. Party Activists generally know who the slugs and infiltrators are. Even that is not a guarantee as for example Utah's RINO governor corrupted the party convention rules to get the GOP nom.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (E4rtv)
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whig, thank you.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (z2aPa)
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Guess they didn’t pay attention to what happened in indiana.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2026 05:45 PM (u73oe)
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19 how many votes were needed?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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I think it requires a supermajority to add redistricting to the existing session. In a called special session, a majority only.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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I think it requires a supermajority to add redistricting to the existing session. In a called special session, a majority only.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:45 PM (E4rtv)
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And again, the GOP as it is defined does not want change. Change involves unpredictability, and they have all grown hugely fat and comfortable with the status quo. Trump and MAGA seriously threaten business as usual.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (Gqar
These aren't the GOP as defined. They are the slag from the blast furnace as we reforge it. As they say, primary these dudes and punish them.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (Gqar
These aren't the GOP as defined. They are the slag from the blast furnace as we reforge it. As they say, primary these dudes and punish them.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 12, 2026 05:45 PM (8avO+)
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I would cut the numbers at least in half of we’re looking for accurate R+ numbers. R+ ain’t T+.
Am I correct in assuming R+ is Rubio? What about V+?
Am I correct in assuming R+ is Rubio? What about V+?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:46 PM (Riz8t)
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As they say, primary these dudes and punish them.
I'm not interested in punishing them. I want to obliterate them.
I'm not interested in punishing them. I want to obliterate them.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:46 PM (Riz8t)
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They are not "RINOs"
They are the real Republicans.
The populists are the RINOs, they are responsible for exactly 100% of that shitty Party's limited popularity, and it's high damned time they dropped the name part of "in name."
I've said since 2020 that the best thing Donald Trump could do for his country and his movement would be to leave the GOP, form his own Party, peel off all their voters, and bury their fuckin' asses once and for all.
But once these midterms are over, however they turn out, would be the very best time for him to do that.
Please, please, please annihilate this Party. Only you can do it, Donald.
They are the real Republicans.
The populists are the RINOs, they are responsible for exactly 100% of that shitty Party's limited popularity, and it's high damned time they dropped the name part of "in name."
I've said since 2020 that the best thing Donald Trump could do for his country and his movement would be to leave the GOP, form his own Party, peel off all their voters, and bury their fuckin' asses once and for all.
But once these midterms are over, however they turn out, would be the very best time for him to do that.
Please, please, please annihilate this Party. Only you can do it, Donald.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2026 05:46 PM (BI5O2)
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And proving your loyalty to the gays and trannies is also probably difficult for most.
Words are cheap.
Words are cheap.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 12, 2026 05:47 PM (Sco7b)
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Ah. The SC GOP never fails to fail.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 12, 2026 05:47 PM (qFwJc)
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The old adage: South Carolina,too small for a republic, too big for an insane asylum
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:47 PM (gu0hJ)
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Fake SC Republicans whining that because Trump expressed an opinion about this, sacred honor requires them to defy him.
And if he didn't express an opinion, they'd say it showed he didn't really care, and they'd do the same thing. Weak. What transparent frauds.
They've got to go.
Fake SC Republicans whining that because Trump expressed an opinion about this, sacred honor requires them to defy him.
And if he didn't express an opinion, they'd say it showed he didn't really care, and they'd do the same thing. Weak. What transparent frauds.
They've got to go.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 12, 2026 05:47 PM (azNOR)
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There are what I characterize as Reform Republicans and the GOP standard issue version. I know them by their fruits, ( biblically speaking, of course).
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Gqar8)
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I don't think of SC has being deep red like Alabama, I'm okay with one commie blue seat there out of 7. Having lived through a state turning from leans red to going mostly blue as AWFLs moved in it may be better long run to keep D idiots clumped into one district.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (RgASm)
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the best thing Donald Trump could do for his country and his movement would be to leave the GOP, form his own Party, peel off all their voters, and bury their fuckin' asses once and for all.
But once these midterms are over, however they turn out, would be the very best time for him to do that.
He could name the party Reform. Or Restore.
But once these midterms are over, however they turn out, would be the very best time for him to do that.
He could name the party Reform. Or Restore.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Riz8t)
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oh. my. how shocking.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (VyBeY)
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That's why I didn't get too excited earlier today.
I never put much faith in the good ol' boys in Columbia.
If McMaster doesn't force the issue, which I doubt he will but who knows, then this will be kicked down the road for next year with a new governor, and perhaps Clyburn will be taken care of then for the election in '28.
I never put much faith in the good ol' boys in Columbia.
If McMaster doesn't force the issue, which I doubt he will but who knows, then this will be kicked down the road for next year with a new governor, and perhaps Clyburn will be taken care of then for the election in '28.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (6ydKt)
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It should also be noted that it has been said of South Carolina politics that it's too small to be its own country and too large to be an insane asylum.
Despite being a solidly "republican" state, they're kind of a basket case and have been since before they kicked of the First American Civil War.
Despite being a solidly "republican" state, they're kind of a basket case and have been since before they kicked of the First American Civil War.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (oqH4h)
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How about your own voters demanding it? Are they a threat to "state sovereignty" too?
they are if they voted for trump!!!!eleventy
they are if they voted for trump!!!!eleventy
Posted by: :-P at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (oY6Yp)
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Well we got +1 Republican from Missouri.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (gu0hJ)
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Is the governor of SC the sort of guy who would pursue redistricting, or is he a fraud too?
Is the governor of SC the sort of guy who would pursue redistricting, or is he a fraud too?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (azNOR)
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Bah.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (zZu0s)
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The GOP has absolutely no interest in being a governing party.
They are perfectly happy to be a bunch of squalid losers subsisting on the crumbs that the Dems toss their way.
They don't represent their constituents and they certainly don't represent America.
They are perfectly happy to be a bunch of squalid losers subsisting on the crumbs that the Dems toss their way.
They don't represent their constituents and they certainly don't represent America.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (gnNyN)
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Then get rid of the 17th Amendment.
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (xkXS7
That would definitely make me pay more attention to who my state representatives and senators were.
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2026 05:43 PM (xkXS7
That would definitely make me pay more attention to who my state representatives and senators were.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (qrzX6)
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Also since we're on it, I am obligated to state that Columbia is the armpit of the South.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (oqH4h)
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22 And again, the GOP as it is defined does not want change. Change involves unpredictability, and they have all grown hugely fat and comfortable with the status quo. Trump and MAGA seriously threaten business as usual.
Posted by: tubal
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The GOP in the South and other traditionally Republican states like Alaska, Wyoming, and Indiana, suffers from the infiltrators that are there for the money and are Democrat adjacent in politics.
They can't win as Democrats so they infiltrate the GOP but have no principles other than generating personal wealth for them and their family.
And to help them do it are Chambers of Commerce which want open borders, cheap labor, no tariffs, endless tax breaks, and corporate welfare for big business. The slugs on the GOP side trade with state Democrats to get those things through which benefit both parties. The Dem pols and GOP pols get paid off to do it--legally or illegally.
Fighting that shit in my own county right now.
Posted by: tubal
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The GOP in the South and other traditionally Republican states like Alaska, Wyoming, and Indiana, suffers from the infiltrators that are there for the money and are Democrat adjacent in politics.
They can't win as Democrats so they infiltrate the GOP but have no principles other than generating personal wealth for them and their family.
And to help them do it are Chambers of Commerce which want open borders, cheap labor, no tariffs, endless tax breaks, and corporate welfare for big business. The slugs on the GOP side trade with state Democrats to get those things through which benefit both parties. The Dem pols and GOP pols get paid off to do it--legally or illegally.
Fighting that shit in my own county right now.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (E4rtv)
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He could name the party Reform. Or Restore.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Riz8t)
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Reform Party of the United States of America would be a great name for an alternative party!
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Riz8t)
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Reform Party of the United States of America would be a great name for an alternative party!
Posted by: Zombie Ross Perot at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (iz7Pd)
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48 Well we got +1 Republican from Missouri.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (gu0hJ)
We sure did. In spite of Springfield and KC, two blights on the state we are solidly Red.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (gu0hJ)
We sure did. In spite of Springfield and KC, two blights on the state we are solidly Red.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (Gqar8)
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The thing about this is too much gentility with frothing at the mouth insane commies who will gladly murder you as soon as they get the chance, you greasy fucks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: deep thought at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (oY6Yp)
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But SC is pretty safely red overall, so rino Lindsey Graham as senator is "cant you do better SC conservatives"
Posted by: PaleRider at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (RgASm)
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CBD's Grok effort in the Morning Rant gave SC 1 seat, I think.
But it also gave the Rs a lot more seats from other states, so eliminating the D seats where we can is only more fair and "diffuse" (whatever in the name of Mexican Orthodontists that could mean.)
But it also gave the Rs a lot more seats from other states, so eliminating the D seats where we can is only more fair and "diffuse" (whatever in the name of Mexican Orthodontists that could mean.)
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (jnIP3)
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39 The old adage: South Carolina,too small for a republic, too big for an insane asylum
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:47 PM (gu0hJ)
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Didn't realize that you beat me to this, see 46 lol.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:47 PM (gu0hJ)
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Didn't realize that you beat me to this, see 46 lol.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:51 PM (oqH4h)
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53 Also since we're on it, I am obligated to state that Columbia is the armpit of the South.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (oqH4h)
It sucks, bigly.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (oqH4h)
It sucks, bigly.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:52 PM (Gqar8)
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ahh so they needed 30 votes and they found their 4 saboteurs.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2026 05:52 PM (n5tGW)
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Somedays it don't pay to get out of bed.
Posted by: Forhorn Leghorn at May 12, 2026 05:52 PM (wVcYX)
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Jot these guys names down so when we are all sent to camps we can bludgeon these guys to death before our trips to the dignity trench.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2026 05:53 PM (zZu0s)
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>>> One of the RINOs admitted he just didn't like Republicans having so much power and claims the "number one" ambition of the "founders" was to "diffuse" power.
He then got out a ball peen hammer and peened the left nut.
He then got out a ball peen hammer and peened the left nut.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 12, 2026 05:53 PM (/lPRQ)
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This is really important -- by eliminating these contrived seats we are removing those districts from the One Party State (or district) machines. They use that machine like CA does, to enable fraud, elect loons, and keep those voters on the plantation.
It is unhealthy, not just for the country, or SC, but for the dems as well. They know this.
It is unhealthy, not just for the country, or SC, but for the dems as well. They know this.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 05:53 PM (jnIP3)
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SC has been stuck with Lindsey for a long while
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)
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ballistic,
LOL,
Having lived in Hellumbia for many years I always said Hellumbia is the armpit.
We are in Wyoming now, thank the Lord.
ballistic,
LOL,
Having lived in Hellumbia for many years I always said Hellumbia is the armpit.
We are in Wyoming now, thank the Lord.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 05:55 PM (3ek7K)
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Gotta keep Ol' Jim "Vice President in Charge of Sitting by the Door" Clyburn in his made up leadership post with the Dims!
Conscience of the House!
Promoter of DEI wahmyns!
Exemplar of all that is good and true in our politics!
Gotta hand off his seat to his progeny!
Gotta keep Ol' Jim "Vice President in Charge of Sitting by the Door" Clyburn in his made up leadership post with the Dims!
Conscience of the House!
Promoter of DEI wahmyns!
Exemplar of all that is good and true in our politics!
Gotta hand off his seat to his progeny!
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 12, 2026 05:55 PM (xG4kz)
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Also since we're on it, I am obligated to state that Columbia is the armpit of the South.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (oqH4h)
Huh. I don't see anything terribly remarkable, for better or worse. Just a city.
I think if any town deserves that crown, it's either Memphis (for being a charnel house), or Jackson, MS (for being the place where hope goes to die).
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (oqH4h)
Huh. I don't see anything terribly remarkable, for better or worse. Just a city.
I think if any town deserves that crown, it's either Memphis (for being a charnel house), or Jackson, MS (for being the place where hope goes to die).
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2026 05:55 PM (BI5O2)
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The redistricting would probably pass in a special session but the key is getting McMasters to call for it. He seems lukewarm about it.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (E4rtv)
He needs to understand that enjoying a peaceful retirement hinges on him calling a special session.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:42 PM (E4rtv)
He needs to understand that enjoying a peaceful retirement hinges on him calling a special session.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2026 05:55 PM (95Ab8)
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68 SC has been stuck with Lindsey for a long while
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)
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Just don't ask what Lindsey's been stuck with
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)
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Just don't ask what Lindsey's been stuck with
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (oqH4h)
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Well we got +1 Republican from Missouri.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM
Add that to the +5 we got here in Texas.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM
Add that to the +5 we got here in Texas.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (0N4FZ)
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"Gop protecting Clyburn,, no way i shan't believe it!"
It's to protect his daughter, the next in line.
It's to protect his daughter, the next in line.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qFwJc)
76
The Democrats ruthlessly destroy anyone that doesn't toe the line in their party.
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (YwEeS)
77
So these guys pulled a "that's not who we are". They don't realize we're in a civil war and having a stick up your ass isn't a strategy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (gu0hJ)
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Okay, I'll shut up. I'm not one that has to keep talkin'. Some fellas just have to keep their mouths flappin', but not me! I was brought up right, my pa used to tell me "shut up" and I'd shut up! I wouldn't say nothin'! One time, darn-near starved to death -- Wouldn't tell him I was hungry!
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (wVcYX)
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Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (oqH4h
Charleston is becoming the San Fran of the East coast.
Charleston is becoming the San Fran of the East coast.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
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Please, please, please annihilate this Party. Only you can do it, Donald.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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It would be funny just to hear the dems and media rant on about how "patriotic" and "rational" the Republican Party was. Once it is dead.
Please, please, please annihilate this Party. Only you can do it, Donald.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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It would be funny just to hear the dems and media rant on about how "patriotic" and "rational" the Republican Party was. Once it is dead.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (jnIP3)
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@61 ballistic , great minds and all that
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:57 PM (gu0hJ)
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Purge by Fire Party
Purge by Fire Party
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 12, 2026 05:57 PM (xG4kz)
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74 Well we got +1 Republican from Missouri.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM
Add that to the +5 we got here in Texas.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (0N4FZ)
Oh and Louisiana chips in too, yes?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM
Add that to the +5 we got here in Texas.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (0N4FZ)
Oh and Louisiana chips in too, yes?
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:57 PM (Gqar8)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 05:57 PM (3ek7K)
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So these guys pulled a "that's not who we are". They don't realize we're in a civil war and having a stick up your ass isn't a strategy
Posted by: Smell the Glove
They don't give a shit and they really enjoy the stick.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
They don't give a shit and they really enjoy the stick.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2026 05:58 PM (QovLg)
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Charleston is becoming the San Fran of the East coast.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
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Charleston is suffering the same fate as Nashville, just about 15 years behind schedule.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
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Charleston is suffering the same fate as Nashville, just about 15 years behind schedule.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:59 PM (oqH4h)
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The only thing red about Graham is his private parts.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 05:57 PM
Brown
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 05:57 PM
Brown
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2026 05:59 PM (BI5O2)
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79 Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:49 PM (oqH4h
Charleston is becoming the San Fran of the East coast.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
Recently spent some time there. My take was quaint old architecture crawling with Progressives.
Charleston is becoming the San Fran of the East coast.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
Recently spent some time there. My take was quaint old architecture crawling with Progressives.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:59 PM (Gqar8)
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Gov. Henry McAsshole won't call a special session.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2026 06:00 PM (QovLg)
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They aren't leftover Southern Democrats. They are Northern Democrats. Davis is my state senator and he's a scumbag from NJ who moved down here and is left of Susan Collins. I doubt many people noticed or cared or even knew who he was before today (besides the "R" next to his name in the voting booth), but I assume he'll get a well funded primary opponent next go round and that will be the end of him. Thankfully.
Posted by: Stephen at May 12, 2026 06:00 PM (bNOZJ)
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73 68 SC has been stuck with Lindsey for a long while
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)
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Just don't ask what Lindsey's been stuck with
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (oqH4h)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LINDSEY GRAHAM IS WELL KNOWN TO BE GAY EVEN THOUGH HE REMAINS IN THE CLOSET, AND HAS LIKELY TAKEN A LOT OF DICK IN THE COURSE OF HIS LIFE.
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:54 PM (Ia/+0)
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Just don't ask what Lindsey's been stuck with
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (oqH4h)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LINDSEY GRAHAM IS WELL KNOWN TO BE GAY EVEN THOUGH HE REMAINS IN THE CLOSET, AND HAS LIKELY TAKEN A LOT OF DICK IN THE COURSE OF HIS LIFE.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 12, 2026 06:00 PM (TbWk/)
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Recently spent some time there. My take was quaint old architecture crawling with Progressives.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:59 PM (Gqar
I was referring to the abundance of light loafer wearers.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:59 PM (Gqar
I was referring to the abundance of light loafer wearers.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 06:00 PM (qrzX6)
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Recently spent some time there. My take was quaint old architecture crawling with Progressives.
Posted by: tubal
Do not forget the obligatory pink, kelly green and yellow attire! Both sexes, mind you!
Recently spent some time there. My take was quaint old architecture crawling with Progressives.
Posted by: tubal
Do not forget the obligatory pink, kelly green and yellow attire! Both sexes, mind you!
Posted by: Krebs 'v' Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (xG4kz)
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Huh. I don't see anything terribly remarkable, for better or worse. Just a city.
I think if any town deserves that crown, it's either Memphis (for being a charnel house), or Jackson, MS (for being the place where hope goes to die).
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2026 05:55 PM (BI5O2)
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I'm sure there are worse cities in the South but Columbia has the ignominious distinction of being home to the University of South Carolina, therefore I am obligated to detest that place.
I think if any town deserves that crown, it's either Memphis (for being a charnel house), or Jackson, MS (for being the place where hope goes to die).
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2026 05:55 PM (BI5O2)
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I'm sure there are worse cities in the South but Columbia has the ignominious distinction of being home to the University of South Carolina, therefore I am obligated to detest that place.
Posted by: ballistic at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (oqH4h)
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We have the same problem in Tennessee: allegedly 75% Republican legislature, but so many are stealth Demoncrats because their brand is toxic in Tennessee.
Posted by: Beverly at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (reMys)
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"Gop protecting Clyburn,, no way i shan't believe it!"
It's to protect his daughter, the next in line.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qFwJc)
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There used to be a custom where incumbents of both parties covered for each other. What a lot of GOP squishes don't understand is that the Dems cannot keep their side of the bargain anymore. They are devouring their own. No mercy will be shown to their enemies.
It's to protect his daughter, the next in line.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qFwJc)
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There used to be a custom where incumbents of both parties covered for each other. What a lot of GOP squishes don't understand is that the Dems cannot keep their side of the bargain anymore. They are devouring their own. No mercy will be shown to their enemies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)
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52 Then get rid of the 17th Amendment.
Posted by: garrett
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Not going to happen absent the US re instituting a limited franchise on voting.. By the time the 17th was ratified, most states had already went to referenda to select senators instead of direct legislative nomination and voting for senators. The legislatures just took the winner of the referendum and made them senator. Ten or less states selected senators the old fashioned constitutional way at the time the 17th was ratified. Too many empty seats during deadlocks, even worse episodes of senators buying seats via bribes, etc. killed that system during the Gilded Age after the ACW.
We cannot fix what ails the US political system with amendments because it is literally too late to do those. Impossible to get the 3/4 of states to ratify and 2/3rds of each house of congress (or a called convention) to propose.
Corrupt societies breed corrupt politics is the lesson that history gives us and will subvert any attempts to change the rules until they are removed kicking and screaming from their offices.
Posted by: garrett
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Not going to happen absent the US re instituting a limited franchise on voting.. By the time the 17th was ratified, most states had already went to referenda to select senators instead of direct legislative nomination and voting for senators. The legislatures just took the winner of the referendum and made them senator. Ten or less states selected senators the old fashioned constitutional way at the time the 17th was ratified. Too many empty seats during deadlocks, even worse episodes of senators buying seats via bribes, etc. killed that system during the Gilded Age after the ACW.
We cannot fix what ails the US political system with amendments because it is literally too late to do those. Impossible to get the 3/4 of states to ratify and 2/3rds of each house of congress (or a called convention) to propose.
Corrupt societies breed corrupt politics is the lesson that history gives us and will subvert any attempts to change the rules until they are removed kicking and screaming from their offices.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (E4rtv)
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I’m shocked.
- nobody
- nobody
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (f2WBH)
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There used to be a custom where incumbents of both parties covered for each other. What a lot of GOP squishes don't understand is that the Dems cannot keep their side of the bargain anymore. They are devouring their own. No mercy will be shown to their enemies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
I think in the case of Clyburn is literally fear. That guy has a pretty broad reach through the black church community across the South and in some Northern cities as well. Often, these are the poll workers and election supervisors in places like Atlanta, Columbia, Charleston, Detroit, etc.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
I think in the case of Clyburn is literally fear. That guy has a pretty broad reach through the black church community across the South and in some Northern cities as well. Often, these are the poll workers and election supervisors in places like Atlanta, Columbia, Charleston, Detroit, etc.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:03 PM (E4rtv)
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South Carolina is so annoying. Its resident are deep red but somehow keep electing swamp creatures.
Posted by: Sharpie at May 12, 2026 06:03 PM (Sclpd)
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 12, 2026 06:03 PM (Sco7b)
102
Gov. McMasters is a basic quisling type: not much hope from him.
So hard to find politicians who'll vote against their own power and intere$t$....
So hard to find politicians who'll vote against their own power and intere$t$....
Posted by: Beverly at May 12, 2026 06:03 PM (reMys)
103
Wall Street Journal over coverage....
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog at May 12, 2026 06:04 PM (Sco7b)
104
Shane Massey was born in 1975, so I don't think he could be considered a "Dixiecrat". Still, the point is well taken.
Posted by: Flakey Foont at May 12, 2026 06:04 PM (kvDvI)
105
The traitors now have to stand for reelection though, right?
Posted by: toby928(c) at May 12, 2026 06:04 PM (4NO2D)
106
Charleston is becoming the San Fran of the East coast.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
Say it ain't so!
I haven't been in a while, but it used to be a grand town.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 05:56 PM (qrzX6)
Say it ain't so!
I haven't been in a while, but it used to be a grand town.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2026 06:04 PM (iERP6)
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I think in the case of Clyburn is literally fear. That guy has a pretty broad reach through the black church community across the South and in some Northern cities as well. Often, these are the poll workers and election supervisors in places like Atlanta, Columbia, Charleston, Detroit, etc.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:03 PM
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What would they do that they're not already doing?
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I think in the case of Clyburn is literally fear. That guy has a pretty broad reach through the black church community across the South and in some Northern cities as well. Often, these are the poll workers and election supervisors in places like Atlanta, Columbia, Charleston, Detroit, etc.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:03 PM
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What would they do that they're not already doing?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 12, 2026 06:05 PM (azNOR)
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Columbia isn't so bad. I can drive through parts at night.
Orangeburg is the Oakland of the South.
Orangeburg is the Oakland of the South.
Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 12, 2026 06:06 PM (qFwJc)
109
These homos should be dragged from their closets, the faces red with shame and wet with tears.
Posted by: Lindsay Graham at May 12, 2026 06:06 PM (4NO2D)
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Corrupt societies breed corrupt politics is the lesson that history gives us and will subvert any attempts to change the rules until they are removed kicking and screaming from their offices.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (E4rtv)
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The US system seems to be the least corrupt/most resilient, though. Federalism helps as it allows like-minded regions to maintain a degree of autonomy.
If you look at Canada, the UK, Australia etc., you see what happenes when a system built upon traditions and customs does when those are ignored and power devolves to "might makes right."
You get unpopular minority governments that not only ignore popular will, but double down on crushing it. And yes, I reminds me of the Second Spanish Republic and the Popular Front stealing enough votes to gain a razor-thin majority, than using that to force revotes, rigging the votes so that their majority went to 2/3, and then using THAT to depose the president - a moderate leftist who refused to seat a center-right government - with a radical leftist.
The global left has gone insane.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:01 PM (E4rtv)
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The US system seems to be the least corrupt/most resilient, though. Federalism helps as it allows like-minded regions to maintain a degree of autonomy.
If you look at Canada, the UK, Australia etc., you see what happenes when a system built upon traditions and customs does when those are ignored and power devolves to "might makes right."
You get unpopular minority governments that not only ignore popular will, but double down on crushing it. And yes, I reminds me of the Second Spanish Republic and the Popular Front stealing enough votes to gain a razor-thin majority, than using that to force revotes, rigging the votes so that their majority went to 2/3, and then using THAT to depose the president - a moderate leftist who refused to seat a center-right government - with a radical leftist.
The global left has gone insane.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:06 PM (ZOv7s)
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I have always thought everything in politics is about money.
The money gives them power and perverted sex. Of course a lot of them were already into perverted sex. Now our tax money pays for it.
I have always thought everything in politics is about money.
The money gives them power and perverted sex. Of course a lot of them were already into perverted sex. Now our tax money pays for it.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: GWB at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (kU0PQ)
113
I haven't been in a while, but it used to be a grand town.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
It's now a fabulous one. And don't drop your change.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
It's now a fabulous one. And don't drop your change.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (QovLg)
114
These Republicans” are true blue Democrats. But they are smart enough to understand that they can never be elected as Dems. So they run in gop primaries where turnout is very low. And it’s a nudge/wink to their fellow Democrats who vote for them.
This thing has been happening where I live for years.The area voted 70-30 for Trump. Yet for state and local offices it’s all leftists across the board. Because conservatives refuse to show up for primaries and local races.
When turnout is 20-25%, the small minority of leftists turns out at 70% and wins. They’ve perfected it.
This thing has been happening where I live for years.The area voted 70-30 for Trump. Yet for state and local offices it’s all leftists across the board. Because conservatives refuse to show up for primaries and local races.
When turnout is 20-25%, the small minority of leftists turns out at 70% and wins. They’ve perfected it.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (f2WBH)
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The Clyburn issue isn't fear or anything else. It's about keeping the money spigot open. The dumb state senate majority leader was on TV down here the other day saying "I know people want us to move fast and make it a complete Republican delegation, but people might not want to hear this but someday there's gonna be a Democrat in the White House again. And it would be good for South Carolina to have someone in the House who, if they call a Democrat President, the Democrat President will take the call."
What our moron state senate leader either doesn't want to understand or fails to understand is for 40 years Republican Presidents from Eisenhower to Reagan had to pick up the phone when the Democrat house reps called because they held the majority. Same would hold true today if those five state senate bozos would get a clue, but they won't.
What our moron state senate leader either doesn't want to understand or fails to understand is for 40 years Republican Presidents from Eisenhower to Reagan had to pick up the phone when the Democrat house reps called because they held the majority. Same would hold true today if those five state senate bozos would get a clue, but they won't.
Posted by: Stephen at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (bNOZJ)
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>2023, 'Deal ends Democratic leadership fight'
Nancy Pelosi will be minority leader, Rep. Steny Hoyer (right) minority whip and Jim Clyburn (left) "assistant leader."
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has forged a deal over the party's leadership structure
Rep. Steny Hoyer will become the Democratic whip, Rep. Jim Clyburn will be Assistant Leader
The "Assistant Leader" position is a new, third-ranking leadership post
Clyburn supports the deal, saying it "honors the diversity" of Democrats in the House
>NBC News, Jim Clyburn warns about the ‘catastrophic consequences’ of redistricting: Full interview, 5 months ago
>Facebook, NBC News
March 13
Longtime Rep. Jim Clyburn, one of the oldest members of Congress, says that he’ll run for an 18th term in the House, breaking with two other former top Democratic leaders — Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer — who have decided to retire.
Clyburn? Simply put, he's untouchable.
And Rinos are a fearful bunch and believe it's much safer he's in Congress when PDT has finished his 2nd term. 🤷♀️
Nancy Pelosi will be minority leader, Rep. Steny Hoyer (right) minority whip and Jim Clyburn (left) "assistant leader."
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has forged a deal over the party's leadership structure
Rep. Steny Hoyer will become the Democratic whip, Rep. Jim Clyburn will be Assistant Leader
The "Assistant Leader" position is a new, third-ranking leadership post
Clyburn supports the deal, saying it "honors the diversity" of Democrats in the House
>NBC News, Jim Clyburn warns about the ‘catastrophic consequences’ of redistricting: Full interview, 5 months ago
>Facebook, NBC News
March 13
Longtime Rep. Jim Clyburn, one of the oldest members of Congress, says that he’ll run for an 18th term in the House, breaking with two other former top Democratic leaders — Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer — who have decided to retire.
Clyburn? Simply put, he's untouchable.
And Rinos are a fearful bunch and believe it's much safer he's in Congress when PDT has finished his 2nd term. 🤷♀️
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (NFX2v)
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89 Gov. Henry McAsshole won't call a special session.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
Politicians are moved by fear and ambition. If McMasters has national ambitions, then he might whether it is a cabinet office, ambassadorship, etc. If he fears retribution for being a scumbag or wants something from the private sector involving the Chambers of Commerce, then he won't.
Typical Southern Governor stereotype that is slowly changing with the newer breed of politician like Landry in LA, Reeves in MS, and Huckabee in AR. DeSantis is someone who broke the mold for Southern GOP governors as someone who actually uses the GOP in the legislature to do something.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
Politicians are moved by fear and ambition. If McMasters has national ambitions, then he might whether it is a cabinet office, ambassadorship, etc. If he fears retribution for being a scumbag or wants something from the private sector involving the Chambers of Commerce, then he won't.
Typical Southern Governor stereotype that is slowly changing with the newer breed of politician like Landry in LA, Reeves in MS, and Huckabee in AR. DeSantis is someone who broke the mold for Southern GOP governors as someone who actually uses the GOP in the legislature to do something.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:08 PM (E4rtv)
118
Trump has proven repeatedly how easy it is to defeat Democrats and to reverse the decline of our country, but you need to want to.
These Republicans, along with many at the federal level, simply don't want to.
These Republicans, along with many at the federal level, simply don't want to.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 12, 2026 06:08 PM (0MjtC)
119
I'm starting to get facial twitches, nervous tics, and manic behavior a la Chief Inspector Charles Dreyfus (the long-suffering boss of Inspector Clouseau in The Pink Panther film series).
I have self-diagnosed as Battered Conservative Syndrome, which I'm sure Muldoon had the ICD10 code for ...
I have self-diagnosed as Battered Conservative Syndrome, which I'm sure Muldoon had the ICD10 code for ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2026 06:08 PM (7Wb7n)
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113 I haven't been in a while, but it used to be a grand town.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
It's now a fabulous one. And don't drop your change.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (QovLg)
Went to their Aquarium. Several Tranny workers, in addition the Danger Hairs. Could have been Chicago.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
It's now a fabulous one. And don't drop your change.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2026 06:07 PM (QovLg)
Went to their Aquarium. Several Tranny workers, in addition the Danger Hairs. Could have been Chicago.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 06:09 PM (Gqar8)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:10 PM (3ek7K)
122
Campsen says the founders' "number one" principle was to "diffuse" political power among the states.
Yes; the redistricting helps to prevent the consolidation of power that the Dems are salivating over.
Why are you (Campsen) so committed to losing? Are you afraid your constituents might enjoy being represented?
Yes; the redistricting helps to prevent the consolidation of power that the Dems are salivating over.
Why are you (Campsen) so committed to losing? Are you afraid your constituents might enjoy being represented?
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at May 12, 2026 06:10 PM (FMtrg)
123
All is proceeding as we have foreseen.
Posted by: Big Penguin at May 12, 2026 06:10 PM (0sNs1)
124
These Republicans, along with many at the federal level, simply don't want to.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 12, 2026 06:08 PM (0MjtC)
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They want a narrow majority so that they don't have the votes to do anything, but can constantly raise more money.
They're not their to solve problems but profit from them.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 12, 2026 06:08 PM (0MjtC)
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They want a narrow majority so that they don't have the votes to do anything, but can constantly raise more money.
They're not their to solve problems but profit from them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (ZOv7s)
125
Snakebit Shain??? There’s a tale in there somewhere.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (Gqar8)
126
The US system seems to be the least corrupt/most resilient, though. Federalism helps as it allows like-minded regions to maintain a degree of autonomy.
If you look at Canada, the UK, Australia etc., you see what happenes when a system built upon traditions and customs does when those are ignored and power devolves to "might makes right."
You get unpopular minority governments that not only ignore popular will, but double down on crushing it. And yes, I reminds me of the Second Spanish Republic and the Popular Front stealing enough votes to gain a razor-thin majority, than using that to force revotes, rigging the votes so that their majority went to 2/3, and then using THAT to depose the president - a moderate leftist who refused to seat a center-right government - with a radical leftist.
The global left has gone insane.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Your examples undercut your message. Both Canada and Australia have pretty strong federalism.
Simply put, corrupt societies end up with corrupt leaders. Corrupt voters want something for nothing and corrupt leaders gain power promising that something to manipulate the voters.
If you look at Canada, the UK, Australia etc., you see what happenes when a system built upon traditions and customs does when those are ignored and power devolves to "might makes right."
You get unpopular minority governments that not only ignore popular will, but double down on crushing it. And yes, I reminds me of the Second Spanish Republic and the Popular Front stealing enough votes to gain a razor-thin majority, than using that to force revotes, rigging the votes so that their majority went to 2/3, and then using THAT to depose the president - a moderate leftist who refused to seat a center-right government - with a radical leftist.
The global left has gone insane.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Your examples undercut your message. Both Canada and Australia have pretty strong federalism.
Simply put, corrupt societies end up with corrupt leaders. Corrupt voters want something for nothing and corrupt leaders gain power promising that something to manipulate the voters.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (E4rtv)
127
What was the point of the alleged "party switch"?
Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (Xqite)
128
Of course SC screwed up, I knew they would. Glad I left that dump.
Posted by: Bob at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (8fcNE)
129
What? A surrender flag?
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (Ia/+0)
It's easier to sew than a bonnie blue flag that bears a single star.
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 05:44 PM (Ia/+0)
It's easier to sew than a bonnie blue flag that bears a single star.
Posted by: GWB at May 12, 2026 06:13 PM (kU0PQ)
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State Sens. Sean Bennett, Chip Campsen, Tom Davis, Greg Hembree, and Shane Massey joined Democrats in opposing the measure.
You would have thought the Indiana primary results would have stiffened some spines.
Oh well, South Carolina, vote them out.
You would have thought the Indiana primary results would have stiffened some spines.
Oh well, South Carolina, vote them out.
Posted by: toby928(c) at May 12, 2026 06:13 PM (4NO2D)
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BTW, anyone seen anything about how many servicemembers fell for Senator Penis Head's sedition?
I remember a bunch of active duty and reserve officers who tried to be conscientious objectors over Iraq - with hilarious results! So far, I'm not seeing any.
Probably the biggest leftist own goal since sending Franco to the Canaries to keep him "out of trouble" in 1936.
I remember a bunch of active duty and reserve officers who tried to be conscientious objectors over Iraq - with hilarious results! So far, I'm not seeing any.
Probably the biggest leftist own goal since sending Franco to the Canaries to keep him "out of trouble" in 1936.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:13 PM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (E4rtv)
Huey Long played that game the best and it lasted decades after. I'm shocked that Louisiana pulled out of it ( for the most part sans new Orleans)
Huey Long played that game the best and it lasted decades after. I'm shocked that Louisiana pulled out of it ( for the most part sans new Orleans)
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 06:14 PM (qrzX6)
133
I know them by their fruits, ( biblically speaking, of course).
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Gqar
You know them in a biblical sense? The fruits?
Kinky....
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Gqar
You know them in a biblical sense? The fruits?
Kinky....
Posted by: GWB at May 12, 2026 06:15 PM (kU0PQ)
134
I mentioned this earlier, but Clyburn is 85 and might not make it to November. It would be the height of irony if they protected his district and then he shed the mortal coil
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 06:15 PM (gu0hJ)
135
Your examples undercut your message. Both Canada and Australia have pretty strong federalism.
Simply put, corrupt societies end up with corrupt leaders. Corrupt voters want something for nothing and corrupt leaders gain power promising that something to manipulate the voters.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (E4rtv)
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The Canadian truckers and Aussies locked up in covid camps disagree.
The Commons call all the shots, and both senates are weird opaque bodies mostly there for show.
Alberta's independence movement will be interesting to watch.
Simply put, corrupt societies end up with corrupt leaders. Corrupt voters want something for nothing and corrupt leaders gain power promising that something to manipulate the voters.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:11 PM (E4rtv)
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The Canadian truckers and Aussies locked up in covid camps disagree.
The Commons call all the shots, and both senates are weird opaque bodies mostly there for show.
Alberta's independence movement will be interesting to watch.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:16 PM (ZOv7s)
136
133 I know them by their fruits, ( biblically speaking, of course).
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Gqar
You know them in a biblical sense? The fruits?
Kinky....
Posted by: GWB at May 12, 2026 06:15 PM (kU0PQ)
I led with my chin, didn’t I?
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 05:48 PM (Gqar
You know them in a biblical sense? The fruits?
Kinky....
Posted by: GWB at May 12, 2026 06:15 PM (kU0PQ)
I led with my chin, didn’t I?
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Gqar8)
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From the last thread:
>> 135 ‘Fraud, waste, and abuse is at least 20% of the federal budget.’ 20%? That’s all you think? It’s more than that. I’d say at lest 30% and if someone said that was too low I wouldn’t fight them.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at May 12, 2026 05:29 PM (rMqEI)
Could be >50% nationally. Thanks to California's Bespoke Artisanal Cougar/Butterfly Bridge, we now know that the baseline for blue states is 85% grift -- which implies it's the same in Europe, and the rest of the Anglosphere too. (And it's probably even *higher* in the non-Western world.) But the BAC/BB is already over $100M and not done yet, when other states can accomplish the same function for $15M, so it's a tidy measuring stick.
>> They may also have other tax breaks. But I don't grok why the F-1 visa students would use a shell company that does not have a job in their field to stay here. Perhaps they make more here even in non STEM jobs than they'd make at home, but I would have thought the cost of living here would negate that benefit.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 12, 2026 05:33 PM (RgASm)
Thanks to the Trump Gold Card, we now know that mere American residency is worth a cool $1M.
>> 135 ‘Fraud, waste, and abuse is at least 20% of the federal budget.’ 20%? That’s all you think? It’s more than that. I’d say at lest 30% and if someone said that was too low I wouldn’t fight them.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at May 12, 2026 05:29 PM (rMqEI)
Could be >50% nationally. Thanks to California's Bespoke Artisanal Cougar/Butterfly Bridge, we now know that the baseline for blue states is 85% grift -- which implies it's the same in Europe, and the rest of the Anglosphere too. (And it's probably even *higher* in the non-Western world.) But the BAC/BB is already over $100M and not done yet, when other states can accomplish the same function for $15M, so it's a tidy measuring stick.
>> They may also have other tax breaks. But I don't grok why the F-1 visa students would use a shell company that does not have a job in their field to stay here. Perhaps they make more here even in non STEM jobs than they'd make at home, but I would have thought the cost of living here would negate that benefit.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 12, 2026 05:33 PM (RgASm)
Thanks to the Trump Gold Card, we now know that mere American residency is worth a cool $1M.
Posted by: SciVo at May 12, 2026 06:16 PM (Sy6m/)
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Posted by: Emmie
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The Founders did not think that way. They eschewed parties altogether before they created them to actually run the government as ad hoc majorities simply were too disorganized to accomplish much legislation.
The Southerners were for strong government to protect slavery and property rights of planters, not so hot on it for other purposes. Those from New England, wanted strong government to discourage immoral behaviors among the populace and to promote virtuous citizenry. Those from the Middle States often just wanted to get filthy rich, often by government actions to help them along the way.
Between the 1776 independent and 1788 beginning of the new Constitution, US states tried about every form of government imaginable apart from kings. And most of them, not all were miserable failures along with the Articles. They maximized liberty to the extent of anarchy at the expense of order and security. So the new government was set up in part to fix the excesses of the old, it was meant to be strong, but not too strong and the diffusion of power was between branches and national v. state. It was not diffusing power among parties.
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The Founders did not think that way. They eschewed parties altogether before they created them to actually run the government as ad hoc majorities simply were too disorganized to accomplish much legislation.
The Southerners were for strong government to protect slavery and property rights of planters, not so hot on it for other purposes. Those from New England, wanted strong government to discourage immoral behaviors among the populace and to promote virtuous citizenry. Those from the Middle States often just wanted to get filthy rich, often by government actions to help them along the way.
Between the 1776 independent and 1788 beginning of the new Constitution, US states tried about every form of government imaginable apart from kings. And most of them, not all were miserable failures along with the Articles. They maximized liberty to the extent of anarchy at the expense of order and security. So the new government was set up in part to fix the excesses of the old, it was meant to be strong, but not too strong and the diffusion of power was between branches and national v. state. It was not diffusing power among parties.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:17 PM (E4rtv)
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Maybe Richard Daley was better than Huey Long come to think about it.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 06:18 PM (qrzX6)
140
Shaping up to be a hot summer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2026 06:19 PM (viF8m)
141
I mentioned this earlier, but Clyburn is 85 and might not make it to November. It would be the height of irony if they protected his district and then he shed the mortal coil
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 06:15 PM (gu0hJ)
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If he died and was simply embalmed, would anybody notice and would he continue winning re-elections?
/rhetorical
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 12, 2026 06:15 PM (gu0hJ)
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If he died and was simply embalmed, would anybody notice and would he continue winning re-elections?
/rhetorical
Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2026 06:19 PM (7Wb7n)
142
As I've said. Never underestimate the ability of the GOP to fuck things up.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (g8Ew8)
143
I think fraud, waste and grift is above %50
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (Ia/+0)
144
The right spends all the effort in the blue vs red wars. But they never spend any time talking about the pink vs red wars. In states like SC the primary winner is the defacto general election winner. The real election is the primary election yet most people don’t even know they exist.
We need a massive education campaign to get people out and vote in primaries. Otherwise you can have super majority “Republican” legislatures and it’s meaningless.
We need a massive education campaign to get people out and vote in primaries. Otherwise you can have super majority “Republican” legislatures and it’s meaningless.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (f2WBH)
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136, we all do it from time to time.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (VyBeY)
146
Shaping up to be a hot summer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2026 06:19 PM (viF8m)
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We'll see. I think the real story is how badly the Dems will piss off everyone by crapping on the flag.
Also, the primary season is going to be lit, and they're going to piss away a lot of seats by putting lunatics on the ballot.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2026 06:19 PM (viF8m)
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We'll see. I think the real story is how badly the Dems will piss off everyone by crapping on the flag.
Also, the primary season is going to be lit, and they're going to piss away a lot of seats by putting lunatics on the ballot.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (ZOv7s)
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Shaping up to be a hot summer.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2026 06:19 PM (viF8m)
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The forecast calls for firehoses.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2026 06:19 PM (viF8m)
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The forecast calls for firehoses.
Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (7Wb7n)
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And another thing...
a week ago there was a lot of pressure on the administration to end the war, or else lose the midterms. Iran knows this. If they just waited out till November, Trump would be impeached again and the Congress would rescue them (as they do.)
But this last week changes everything. Even if Rs are not going to gain 20 seats, everyone thinks they might so that gives Trump much more leverage to end the war without concessions.
So by refusing to redistrict, SC is helping Iran.
a week ago there was a lot of pressure on the administration to end the war, or else lose the midterms. Iran knows this. If they just waited out till November, Trump would be impeached again and the Congress would rescue them (as they do.)
But this last week changes everything. Even if Rs are not going to gain 20 seats, everyone thinks they might so that gives Trump much more leverage to end the war without concessions.
So by refusing to redistrict, SC is helping Iran.
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 06:20 PM (jnIP3)
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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LINDSEY GRAHAM IS WELL KNOWN TO BE GAY EVEN THOUGH HE REMAINS IN THE CLOSET, AND HAS LIKELY TAKEN A LOT OF DICK IN THE COURSE OF HIS LIFE.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 12, 2026 06:00 PM (TbWk/)
Oh! My!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 12, 2026 06:00 PM (TbWk/)
Oh! My!
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at May 12, 2026 06:21 PM (Sma6t)
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The covid camps were BY their regional governor, not the federal level. It varied quite a bit in Australia just like the US. Alberta would not be trying to secede as has Quebec in the past if Canada was a unitary state.
The Canadian truckers were in Ontario which explicitly supported the national government. Had it occurred in Alberta, it would have been somewhat different in effect. About the same as claiming that Virginia and Maryland would not act in favor of DC Democrats regardless.
The connecting link is political parties and that is the one thing that the Founders left out of the US constitution. The other is bureaucracies.
Founders claimed to favor neither yet both proved to be essential in order to get government to actually do anything.
The Canadian truckers were in Ontario which explicitly supported the national government. Had it occurred in Alberta, it would have been somewhat different in effect. About the same as claiming that Virginia and Maryland would not act in favor of DC Democrats regardless.
The connecting link is political parties and that is the one thing that the Founders left out of the US constitution. The other is bureaucracies.
Founders claimed to favor neither yet both proved to be essential in order to get government to actually do anything.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (E4rtv)
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143, I get more and more sure of it with every day that goes by.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (VyBeY)
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Indiana GOP: "Ain't no cuck like an Indiana cuck!"
South Gayrolina GOP: "Hold my wife's boyfriend's beer."
South Gayrolina GOP: "Hold my wife's boyfriend's beer."
Posted by: Grand Old Pussies -- Disintegrate! at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (qUkBO)
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Republicans are the same on the local, state and national level. They will represent absolutely anyone other than conservative voters.
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (X+xvk)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (3ek7K)
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I don't grok why the F-1 visa students would use a shell company that does not have a job in their field to stay here. Perhaps they make more here even in non STEM jobs than they'd make at home, but I would have thought the cost of living here would negate that benefit.
Posted by: PaleRider
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Yeah, that's why my last (willowed) comment there was that we hadn't gotten to the bottom of this -- the mechanism and the objective. I hope ICE makes it clear cuz it's a head-scratcher.
I don't grok why the F-1 visa students would use a shell company that does not have a job in their field to stay here. Perhaps they make more here even in non STEM jobs than they'd make at home, but I would have thought the cost of living here would negate that benefit.
Posted by: PaleRider
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Yeah, that's why my last (willowed) comment there was that we hadn't gotten to the bottom of this -- the mechanism and the objective. I hope ICE makes it clear cuz it's a head-scratcher.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2026 06:23 PM (XJ22o)
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154
Graham's sister lives with him.
Is she his beard?
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (3ek7K)
Is she a Lesbian? That would be great!
Graham's sister lives with him.
Is she his beard?
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (3ek7K)
Is she a Lesbian? That would be great!
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 06:23 PM (Gqar8)
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One of the RINOs admitted he just didn't like Republicans having so much power and claims the "number one" ambition of the "founders" was to "diffuse" power.
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Well, if we're nice to them they'll surely be nice to us.
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Well, if we're nice to them they'll surely be nice to us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 12, 2026 06:24 PM (ndZc7)
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So by refusing to redistrict, SC is helping Iran.
Posted by: bob
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When history calls, we pick up the phone!
So by refusing to redistrict, SC is helping Iran.
Posted by: bob
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When history calls, we pick up the phone!
Posted by: GOPe at May 12, 2026 06:24 PM (XJ22o)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:25 PM (3ek7K)
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I imagine Graham’s home. I imagine it looks like a set from The Bird Cage, or Les Cage Aux Folles for the literary types.
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2026 06:26 PM (Gqar8)
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139 Maybe Richard Daley was better than Huey Long come to think about it.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg
Depends on your scale of disgust. Huey was a nasty type that was a true demagogue--Every Man a King for example. The guy that allegedly assassinated him in the Louisiana Capitol building did so just after his father in law, a judge, was redistricted out at Long's demand.
Daley could barely speak comprehensible English but could manage to strong arm alderman as much as even presidents or governors to protect 'his' city by any means necessary. If you agree with that, you could stay there. If not, best to move.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg
Depends on your scale of disgust. Huey was a nasty type that was a true demagogue--Every Man a King for example. The guy that allegedly assassinated him in the Louisiana Capitol building did so just after his father in law, a judge, was redistricted out at Long's demand.
Daley could barely speak comprehensible English but could manage to strong arm alderman as much as even presidents or governors to protect 'his' city by any means necessary. If you agree with that, you could stay there. If not, best to move.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:26 PM (E4rtv)
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The entire premise is wrong. It’s not Republicans that cuck out. It’s Democrats who pretend to be Republicans who are doing exactly what they were elected to do by fellow Democrats.
When nobody shows up in primaries other than leftists this is what happens. Conservatives have this weird thing where they refuse to participate in primaries and local elections. Like it’s beneath them or something.
Plus there’s the belief among many people in red states that everyone with an R next to their name must be super duper ultra conservative. Partly because on Fox and elsewhere it’s R= Good D= bad. So to the casual observer it’s like yeah whatever as long as an R wins all is well. Doesn’t matter which R so why bother voting in primaries.
That entire mindset needs to change.
When nobody shows up in primaries other than leftists this is what happens. Conservatives have this weird thing where they refuse to participate in primaries and local elections. Like it’s beneath them or something.
Plus there’s the belief among many people in red states that everyone with an R next to their name must be super duper ultra conservative. Partly because on Fox and elsewhere it’s R= Good D= bad. So to the casual observer it’s like yeah whatever as long as an R wins all is well. Doesn’t matter which R so why bother voting in primaries.
That entire mindset needs to change.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:26 PM (f2WBH)
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Alberta would not be trying to secede as has Quebec in the past if Canada was a unitary state.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (E4rtv)
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We disagree on details, the larger point is that throughout the Anglosphere the new game is to limit voting options, to rule certain topics out of bounds and cobble together parliamentary majorities based on pure power. Canada's Liberals are buying a majority by paying off floor-crossers.
Alberta cops might now have intervened, but the Debanking - came from the top, and the province could not save them. All of those systems are much stronger federally than ours.
In both Canada and the UK, election manifestos are now a joke. Just win. Just get the majority. Then do whatever you want. The US system has recalls at the state level and military/police power is much more diffused.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (E4rtv)
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We disagree on details, the larger point is that throughout the Anglosphere the new game is to limit voting options, to rule certain topics out of bounds and cobble together parliamentary majorities based on pure power. Canada's Liberals are buying a majority by paying off floor-crossers.
Alberta cops might now have intervened, but the Debanking - came from the top, and the province could not save them. All of those systems are much stronger federally than ours.
In both Canada and the UK, election manifestos are now a joke. Just win. Just get the majority. Then do whatever you want. The US system has recalls at the state level and military/police power is much more diffused.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:27 PM (ZOv7s)
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I really wish folks on the right were as good at purging their party of the worthless 'moderates' as the left is.
Posted by: Methos at May 12, 2026 06:28 PM (vSvIl)
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The GOP in the South and other traditionally Republican states like Alaska, Wyoming, and Indiana, suffers from the infiltrators that are there for the money and are Democrat adjacent in politics.
They can't win as Democrats so they infiltrate the GOP but have no principles other than generating personal wealth for them and their family.
Fighting that shit in my own county right now.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (E4rtv)
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I've mentioned this before - you paint with too wide a brush. The GOP in Indiana is moving toward MAGA, with the House already there and the Senate slowly moving in that direction. We can complain about the senators that torpedoed redistricting, part of that from the point of view that Indiana prides itself on running a pretty clean political system - and I get it - some are too late to realize that their compatriots no longer believe that.
But on policy - full school choice state money following the kid to all private schools. Taking away power from county and state public health officials after covid. Attacking K-12 education on DEI BS. Eliminating state university's ability to confer DEI degrees. Full right to work state.
They can't win as Democrats so they infiltrate the GOP but have no principles other than generating personal wealth for them and their family.
Fighting that shit in my own county right now.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (E4rtv)
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I've mentioned this before - you paint with too wide a brush. The GOP in Indiana is moving toward MAGA, with the House already there and the Senate slowly moving in that direction. We can complain about the senators that torpedoed redistricting, part of that from the point of view that Indiana prides itself on running a pretty clean political system - and I get it - some are too late to realize that their compatriots no longer believe that.
But on policy - full school choice state money following the kid to all private schools. Taking away power from county and state public health officials after covid. Attacking K-12 education on DEI BS. Eliminating state university's ability to confer DEI degrees. Full right to work state.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2026 06:28 PM (UVyKP)
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Republicans are the same on the local, state and national level. They will represent absolutely anyone other than conservative voters.
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (X+xvk)
Because conservative voters don’t bother with the selection process. If it’s not a presidential race it’s not important. That’s the mindset that needs to change. Without that, RINOs will always have the power.
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 12, 2026 06:22 PM (X+xvk)
Because conservative voters don’t bother with the selection process. If it’s not a presidential race it’s not important. That’s the mindset that needs to change. Without that, RINOs will always have the power.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:29 PM (f2WBH)
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Does the legislature have to be adjourned before the Governor can call a special session? My gut feeling is that he should have done it as soon as that vote was completed.
Posted by: tankdemon at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (y9z9C)
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Maybe F-1 fraud is to hide the fact that they do not have any special skills/value, they are simply family of someone already here. Likely working under the table and engaging in other business not allowed by their particular temporary visa (e.g. rental properties, any side hustle). Iirc, with these visa one is only allowed to earn via their specified job. They can’t be, say, selling dance lessons or have a catering business on the side.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (4KUe5)
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Nood - obama' but buddy xavier guy failing at speaking coherently
Posted by: bob (moron inbobnitus) at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (jnIP3)
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This is the problem that we're going to have when 2031 rolls around and the Republicans have an overwhelming majority in the House due to post-census redistricting. The weak Rs and Dems will simply join our party and encourage the rot from the inside.
Just like The Conservative Party in the UK.
Just like The Conservative Party in the UK.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (kWDme)
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One of the RINOs admitted he just didn't like Republicans having so much power and claims the "number one" ambition of the "founders" was to "diffuse" power.
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There's been a lot of talk and outrage about this AWFL who refused to prosecute her rapist because she didn't want to send another black man to prison. (And then he attacked someone else.) Toxic empathy. And now, from South Carolina . . .
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There's been a lot of talk and outrage about this AWFL who refused to prosecute her rapist because she didn't want to send another black man to prison. (And then he attacked someone else.) Toxic empathy. And now, from South Carolina . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (ndZc7)
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I would love to see Alberta be traded for Minnesota
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (Ia/+0)
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Daley encouraged one group of Dems to beat another group of Dems . . . So he had at least one redeeming quality.
Not sure if Huey did anything v similar.
Not sure if Huey did anything v similar.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 12, 2026 06:30 PM (gpQ8/)
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Because conservative voters don’t bother with the selection process. If it’s not a presidential race it’s not important. That’s the mindset that needs to change. Without that, RINOs will always have the power.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:29 PM (f2WBH)
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Conservatives have other things to do. They do not obsess with politics. Politics is the Church of the Left. It is their place of worship, so of course they show up. They live in this world, have no families, live online, and that gives them an edge.
Good luck convincing normal people to live like that.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:29 PM (f2WBH)
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Conservatives have other things to do. They do not obsess with politics. Politics is the Church of the Left. It is their place of worship, so of course they show up. They live in this world, have no families, live online, and that gives them an edge.
Good luck convincing normal people to live like that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)
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They can't win as Democrats so they infiltrate the GOP but have no principles other than generating personal wealth for them and their family.
Fighting that shit in my own county right now.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (E4rtv)
The “Republican” representing my state district is campaigning on the fact she voted to almost double spending in education. She’s a super duper conservative dontchaknow!!
Fighting that shit in my own county right now.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 05:50 PM (E4rtv)
The “Republican” representing my state district is campaigning on the fact she voted to almost double spending in education. She’s a super duper conservative dontchaknow!!
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (f2WBH)
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Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2026 06:28 PM (UVyK
Bright Red states have been pushing back last decade.
Bright Red states have been pushing back last decade.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (qrzX6)
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Can we send applications for unemployment benefits to the offices of all of these turbulent RINOs?
They seem capable of learning by only one means of "education".
They seem capable of learning by only one means of "education".
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (HlyYF)
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Indiana doesn't have any real liberal policies hanging around at all. Pro-business. Relatively efficient government - as far as that goes. Has held fast against pot legalization - as we learn more about the dangers of the states who jumped quickly. Low crime, low cost of living. Fully outlawed abortion right in front of an election.
We have our issues. But being faux conservatives isn't one of them.
We have our issues. But being faux conservatives isn't one of them.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (UVyKP)
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Living in Wyoming, the cities are the problem. I don't say big cities because in Wyoming we don't have big cities like other places.
Also anywhere there is a university beware.
Living in Wyoming, the cities are the problem. I don't say big cities because in Wyoming we don't have big cities like other places.
Also anywhere there is a university beware.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (3ek7K)
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Most republicans don’t want to lead, they want to hold office and enjoy all of the benefits while maintaining plausible deniability because the other side has the majority you guys!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (4KUe5)
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Conservatives have other things to do. They do not obsess with politics. Politics is the Church of the Left. It is their place of worship, so of course they show up. They live in this world, have no families, live online, and that gives them an edge.
Good luck convincing normal people to live like that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)
That’s a weak excuse.Plenty of leftists have jobs and families and shit and still manage to find 20 minute every 2 years to vote in local elections or primaries.
If you don’t show up you will never win a game.
Good luck convincing normal people to live like that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (ZOv7s)
That’s a weak excuse.Plenty of leftists have jobs and families and shit and still manage to find 20 minute every 2 years to vote in local elections or primaries.
If you don’t show up you will never win a game.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:33 PM (f2WBH)
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Alberta cops might now have intervened, but the Debanking - came from the top, and the province could not save them. All of those systems are much stronger federally than ours.
In both Canada and the UK, election manifestos are now a joke. Just win. Just get the majority. Then do whatever you want. The US system has recalls at the state level and military/police power is much more diffused.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I don't agree. Canada is NOT a unitary state and in fact is trending the opposite way toward dissolution. UK is a unitary state and yet increasingly Wales and Scotland are becoming more a stronghold of nationalists which WILL end up changing things.
Federalism is never a fixed process nor are centralized states as they wax and wane in history. Sometimes the federal government, like in Spain can stomp on the separationists like the Basques and the Catalonians, yet when the central state weakens from profligacy or bad decisions on wars, etc., then the periphery strengthens again.
I think we are heading into dissolution of states again because cities are so divergent from the nations around them.
In both Canada and the UK, election manifestos are now a joke. Just win. Just get the majority. Then do whatever you want. The US system has recalls at the state level and military/police power is much more diffused.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I don't agree. Canada is NOT a unitary state and in fact is trending the opposite way toward dissolution. UK is a unitary state and yet increasingly Wales and Scotland are becoming more a stronghold of nationalists which WILL end up changing things.
Federalism is never a fixed process nor are centralized states as they wax and wane in history. Sometimes the federal government, like in Spain can stomp on the separationists like the Basques and the Catalonians, yet when the central state weakens from profligacy or bad decisions on wars, etc., then the periphery strengthens again.
I think we are heading into dissolution of states again because cities are so divergent from the nations around them.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:33 PM (E4rtv)
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They look forward to a new Democratic majority, when they'll ask for bipartisanship. It makes them feel warm inside.
Posted by: PG at May 12, 2026 06:35 PM (o9jVi)
Posted by: Paolo at May 12, 2026 06:36 PM (0sNs1)
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Living in Wyoming, the cities are the problem. I don't say big cities because in Wyoming we don't have big cities like other places.
Also anywhere there is a university beware.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (3ek7K)
Not a fan of Casper. Real thug vibe going on there. Much more so than Laramie or Cheyenne.
Also anywhere there is a university beware.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:31 PM (3ek7K)
Not a fan of Casper. Real thug vibe going on there. Much more so than Laramie or Cheyenne.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Exactly Streets Ahead at May 12, 2026 06:36 PM (0aYVJ)
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The “Republican” representing my state district is campaigning on the fact she voted to almost double spending in education. She’s a super duper conservative dontchaknow!!
Posted by: Heroq
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Yep. She quickly figured out those sucking on the hind tit of education spending were a sizable contingent of voters. Same reason why rural GOP members opposed the state issuing vouchers for education.
It is time to cease public education as we know it. Funding should go to the students and then to where the student wants to attend. Those schools should face mandatory exams yearly for progress of individual students or go belly up by not be eligible to enroll students for the coming year.
We tried the German factory model of education and our children are in fact less educated than when we had no public schools but at a massive expense to taxpayers.
Posted by: Heroq
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Yep. She quickly figured out those sucking on the hind tit of education spending were a sizable contingent of voters. Same reason why rural GOP members opposed the state issuing vouchers for education.
It is time to cease public education as we know it. Funding should go to the students and then to where the student wants to attend. Those schools should face mandatory exams yearly for progress of individual students or go belly up by not be eligible to enroll students for the coming year.
We tried the German factory model of education and our children are in fact less educated than when we had no public schools but at a massive expense to taxpayers.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:38 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:39 PM (3ek7K)
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181 Conservatives have other things to do. They do not obsess with politics. Politics is the Church of the Left. It is their place of worship, so of course they show up. They live in this world, have no families, live online, and that gives them an edge.
Good luck convincing normal people to live like that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Bowling Alone author Robert Putnam figured out what Americans do in the spare time. Watch the idiot box. That was in the 90's so we now have to include scrolling on fakebook, gaming, and various other entertainment. The truth is that past Americans got a lot out of socializing with other people, nowadays they are cloistered at home with their gadgets.
Hard to fix that.
Good luck convincing normal people to live like that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Bowling Alone author Robert Putnam figured out what Americans do in the spare time. Watch the idiot box. That was in the 90's so we now have to include scrolling on fakebook, gaming, and various other entertainment. The truth is that past Americans got a lot out of socializing with other people, nowadays they are cloistered at home with their gadgets.
Hard to fix that.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:40 PM (E4rtv)
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If conservatives are oh so busy that they can’t find 20 minutes every 2 years to vote in local elections well then we deserve the RINOs we get. Sorry but that’s just an absolute bullshit excuse.
Posted by: Heroq at May 12, 2026 06:43 PM (f2WBH)
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whig @ 186,
You are exactly right. Even here in small town Wyoming we see the control the teacher's union has over education.
It ain't good.
whig @ 186,
You are exactly right. Even here in small town Wyoming we see the control the teacher's union has over education.
It ain't good.
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:43 PM (3ek7K)
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RINO is a bit of a misnomer. The GOP that actually does the right thing appear to be the RINO's.
Posted by: connected and litigious at May 12, 2026 06:46 PM (cS1cw)
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189 If conservatives are oh so busy that they can’t find 20 minutes every 2 years to vote in local elections well then we deserve the RINOs we get. Sorry but that’s just an absolute bullshit excuse.
Posted by: Heroq
Yep. I agree.
Posted by: Heroq
Yep. I agree.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:46 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: four seasons at May 12, 2026 06:46 PM (3ek7K)
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191 RINO is a bit of a misnomer. The GOP that actually does the right thing appear to be the RINO's.
Posted by: connected and litigious
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True in term of officeholders in a lot of places, not true of the electorate. The GOP Donor and official class is more RINOish than the voters are.
Posted by: connected and litigious
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True in term of officeholders in a lot of places, not true of the electorate. The GOP Donor and official class is more RINOish than the voters are.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:48 PM (E4rtv)
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To me its getting all but a very few Universities are Cultural Marxists Seminaries. Look at all the Rallies for Palestinians, anti-Jewish and May Day celebrations
Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2026 06:48 PM (Ia/+0)
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Posted by: whig at May 12, 2026 06:40 PM (E4rtv
I know what my 50-70 aged friends and acquaintances do. The ones who aren't retired work 50-60 hours a week and spend a lot of time following their kids in college or their grandkids. My retired friends travel more than Gulliver. I'm the homebody of the group that plays tennis and golf and paints. What I do know though if things get jumpy we'll have the most badass senior citizen special forces.
I know what my 50-70 aged friends and acquaintances do. The ones who aren't retired work 50-60 hours a week and spend a lot of time following their kids in college or their grandkids. My retired friends travel more than Gulliver. I'm the homebody of the group that plays tennis and golf and paints. What I do know though if things get jumpy we'll have the most badass senior citizen special forces.
Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at May 12, 2026 06:50 PM (qrzX6)
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