At what point do conspiracy theories go too far?

Is Thomas Sowell right?

Are any of those barbarians involved in conspiracies?

Do you ever think along these lines?

They sure know how to keep a secret, don't they? pic.twitter.com/GRPHqoiNkE
— Walter Kirn (@walterkirn) May 8, 2026

It's all connected, right?

Things I have learned: (1.) The shooter is best friends with the Vice President and his wife, and (2.) A Fox News correspondent made sure the K9 officer didn't interfere with the shooter as he removed the gun from his coat - - after guests moved from the red carpet through security to the ballroom.

It all makes sense. If the assassination attempt must be fake.

Here's Fox News war correspondent Trey Yingst running over to direct the K9 handler who spoke with the “shooter” at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, just before he ran out of the room his dog hit on twice. https://t.co/iwMctKl4D9 pic.twitter.com/Mk4aOroEkt
— Stew Peters (@realstewpeters) May 2, 2026

(Notes: A woman who looked like the VP's wife was at an event with the shooter in 2017 and Trey Yingst says he was reaching to shake hands with photographers near the red carpet).

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All the people who think the assassination attempt was fake also believe that Apollo 11 was fake. Why is that?

This is an interesting video for other people.

Apollo 11 Almost Never Left the Moon

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Think Piece for the Weekend

by Michael Smith, who is also moving!

Enemy Maintenance
Democrats are working overtime to manufacture enemies and keep their armies of straw men alive.

“For me to be right, you must always be wrong no matter what” seems to be the mechanics behind a lot of sociopolitical turmoil these days, and it is often utilized by people who intentionally twist positions, most that their opponents never held, simply are not true, consist of terms that have been redefined to fit, situations that have been recontextualized, or they just never happened so they can be “right.”
It happened to me this week when a person attacked me for things I never said, I never did, I never believed, nor have I ever espoused—and no matter how much direct, objective, and in some cases, publicly known, evidence I presented, he just would not accept any of it. His entire package of grievances was a neatly tied up box of manipulated rhetoric, things taken out of context, false memories and mythmaking that was completely and totally false.

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WEEKEND

The Week in Pictures: More Illegal Aliens - - From Outer Space

People ridiculed President Trump in his first term when he founded the Space Force as a new branch of the military. Well who’s laughing now? True, it might seem that building a wall against alien incursions is impossible, but didn’t Star Trek solve this decades ago with modulated shields? And we’re already long past making analogies between the Administrative State and The Borg. And this, you see, is why I have to re-appear here, because let’s face it, John is just weak (by his own admission) about sci-fi-pop-cul. Meanwhile, the Persian Gulf ceasefire punctuated with “kinetic activity” continues. And oh yeah—Spirit Airlines died. I suspect this is not a coincidence. I’ll bet it was an alien front all along, and Trump’s Space Force is on it!

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Dance

Watch Bob Fosse's snake performance in "The Little Prince" from 1974 and tell me you don't see Michael Jackson's entire dance career born in real time.

Wild to see the source material...pic.twitter.com/CmsAJpiS68
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) May 8, 2026

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, May 2, Turning long stories into short stories

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:14 AM

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1 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 11:16 AM (Ia/+0)

2 Hi, Skip!

Posted by: KT at May 09, 2026 11:19 AM (7vIsy)

3 Related news:

During the period 2021 to 2025, there were 676 illegally registered voters at a non-existent address, including several who voted illegally in Washington County, Oregon (just west of Portland. Beaverton is the major city in the county).

https://tinyurl.com/mrxrkx93

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 09, 2026 11:21 AM (nqLyi)

4 > Is Thomas Sowell right?
Are any of those barbarians involved in conspiracies?
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Yes. All of them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2026 11:21 AM (jehhT)

5

Gonna read the content, swearsies. But as conspiracy theories go, you guys have got to see this 7 panel comic for checking an ewok's prostate.

https://9gag.com/gag/an7mKjq

NOT safe for work or small animals.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at May 09, 2026 11:22 AM (QVmho)

6 Thomas Sowell couldn't be more right

And if you think the CIA wasn't right 50s - 2000, what makes you think they cleaned up their act?
Unless you went to their side

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 11:23 AM (Ia/+0)

7 Thx K.T., hope you are well.
Strangely Michael Jackson hung out with little princes also. Hey-o

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2026 11:23 AM (gu0hJ)

8 7 Thx K.T., hope you are well.
Strangely Michael Jackson hung out with little princes also. Hey-o

Doing okay.

and Heh.

Posted by: KT at May 09, 2026 11:25 AM (7vIsy)

9 I was rather surprised that this university President decried brainwashing on campuses when I read the headline , but I guessed that person might be the President of a Christian school. I was correct
Legal Insurrection site:

https://tinyurl.com/54h8umrz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 11:26 AM (Nx5jP)

10 Guess I'm up too early or have nothing worthwhile to do.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 09, 2026 11:26 AM (ItpTM)

11 Sowell is spot on. The intersection between Sowell's comment and the comment about the CIA is pretty evident as well

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2026 11:27 AM (gu0hJ)

12 Kinda sorta mostly off-topic...

This is hilarious.

In STARZ new series adaptation of the movie/play "Amadeus"-

Mozart is played by an Asian actor.

Who knew Mozart played a killer ~~harpsichord~~ shamisen ?

Apparently, it's loaded up with other ahistorical embellishments.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:28 AM (iJfKG)

13 Karens, control freaks, busy bodies. They demand obedience. Despicable creeps.

Posted by: Glenn at May 09, 2026 11:28 AM (UuEvN)

14 Also, someone who looks like a woman who works at the hotel, with a white collar, sticks her head through the door as soon as the shooter rushes out with the rifle.

I think there may be one or two people in witness protection, or at least advised against talking.

Posted by: KT at May 09, 2026 11:28 AM (7vIsy)

15 They say there are no aliens. But those alien spacecraft are real.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 09, 2026 11:30 AM (D1E+2)

16 Yes, Sowell's right. Yes, they are by dint of their government posts and other positions of power and influence they hold. Also they're in law enforcement and Secret Service. Not all of them - many of them are just thugs or blitheringly incompetent - but I have no doubt of their presence.

Posted by: They're inside all the institutions at May 09, 2026 11:30 AM (TbWk/)

17 Damn, Michael Jackson's whole career was bullshit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 09, 2026 11:31 AM (snZF9)

18
Bob Fosse died in 1987, so I suppose it's possible that Michael Jackson or a group affiliated with him hired Bob Fosse to help design some of Michael Jackson's dance routines.

That happens all the time these days.

Why not in the past?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:33 AM (iJfKG)

19 It's sort of ironic that Bob Fosse is a huge icon among teh gheyz, although he was reputed to be an absolute poonhound.

Posted by: It's like RRAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNN at May 09, 2026 11:34 AM (TbWk/)

20 17 Damn, Michael Jackson's whole career was bullshit.

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You mean Billie Jean really was his lover?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 09, 2026 11:35 AM (JkO4W)

21 Look at Europe allowing the Trojan Horse get in

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 11:37 AM (Ia/+0)

22 Sowell is 100% correct.
The Soviets were telling us since the 50's that they would bury us, following the Marxist playbook of rotting us from within- destroy the family, faith, and national pride, in order to make the state the Father and Mother, cradle-to-grave.
Look at what Sowell says...
And look at today's democrat party and their Pravda media.
McCarthy was right.

Posted by: UncleJefe at May 09, 2026 11:39 AM (DzC+b)

23 Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:28 AM

I absolutely can't stand it when actual historical figures who were white are played by ethnic actors. I get stuck on that instead of the actual story because it's too jarring. I can't imagine anyone except for the people who came up with the concept are not bothered by it. Mozart played by an Asian? Oookay. Why don't .we have J.S Bach played by a black woman?!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Nx5jP)

24 Willowed:

"Betty" Broderick never repented. She killed a rat. She dodged the First degree murder rap. But you bet your ass that she planned it.

I don't think she was crazy. Her husband left her for a younger version. His buddy the judge in the divorce proceedings, did him no favor by tying up her share of the multi-million community property.

Posted by: no one of any consequense at May 09, 2026 11:40 AM (qFwJc)

25
It's sort of ironic that Bob Fosse...was reputed to be an absolute poonhound.

That's more or less the story of his movie "All That Jazz".

In any event, you've got to believe that any normal guy involved in dancing would do very very well with the ladies,

seeing as how he'd not have much competition within that field.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:40 AM (iJfKG)

26 The CIA has a role in overthrowing governments. They're pretty good at it. Mostly. The problem is there's a faction in that agency that's hell bent on overthrowing ours.

And it'll be impossible to stop them unless the agency is dismantled from within.

They're wholly self sufficient. The Agency needs no funds as they've got plenty of fronts around the world making more money for them than Congress ever dreamed of allocating.

We bitch about the FBI.... they're low lever street hustlers compared to the thugs running the CIA.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2026 11:40 AM (jehhT)

27 Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:28 AM

I absolutely can't stand it when actual historical figures who were white are played by ethnic actors. I get stuck on that instead of the actual story because it's too jarring. I can't imagine anyone except for the people who came up with the concept are not bothered by it. Mozart played by an Asian? Oookay. Why don't .we have J.S Bach played by a black woman?!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Nx5jP)

Yes, that whole suspension of disbelief goes out the window.

Also, it adds a component of racial animosity or conflict, intentional or no, that doesn't belong at all in that story.

It's stupid story making.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:43 AM (iJfKG)

28 The lack of evidence for the conspiracy
is proof of just how deep the conspiracy
goes.

No country colonized by Spain
has ever amounted to shit.

My two favorite political maxims, from my Dad.

...and the classic by Earl Butz,
that is unrepeatable.

Posted by: retropox at May 09, 2026 11:47 AM (7rnzP)

29 Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 11:43 AM

Exactly, but you can bet people would be outraged -and rightfully so -if a story about Harriet Tubman had a white woman playing her.

"Amadeus" is an odd enough story, while being very engaging . without messing around with transposing actors who are of a different ethnicity

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Yl2Ob)

30 Want evidence of this?

After electing a man who threatened to kill a man and his entire family for daring to disagree with him publicly for District Attorney...

His office filed an appeal with the Virginia Supreme Court that misspelled "Virginia" and "Senator"

https://tinyurl.com/3wrzp7t9

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2026 11:49 AM (uEYKS)

31 Earl Butz. Is he by any chance related to Seymour Butz?

Posted by: Old Blue at May 09, 2026 11:51 AM (8z6SV)

32 TJM brought up a very old war movie thst a Japanese officer wasn't played by a Japanese. That doesn't bother me much as getting a Japanese to play a very bad guy not that many years after the war.
Changing a character for other reasoning is questionable

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 11:51 AM (Ia/+0)

33 TJM brought up a very old war movie thst a Japanese officer wasn't played by a Japanese. That doesn't bother me much as getting a Japanese to play a very bad guy not that many years after the war.

It wasn't so much that as they just didn't have very many Japanese actors, especially at that time, so they used whatever they had around. And, of course, old Hollywood racism against any groups but whites and bigotry against middle America presuming nobody there would tolerate an actual Japanese gentleman

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2026 11:53 AM (uEYKS)

34 Want a conspiracy theory, I've got one for you: isn't it interesting how many conspiracy theories seem to benefit the commies?

Pearl Harbor: intended to cast doubt on whether the US was acting justly by claiming they put their own people in harm's way in order to satisfy their ambitions of Imperial conquest.

JFK: the killer's motive (communism) is almost entirely forgotten and instead the government or Republicans get blamed. In some variations the communist assassin ends up an entirely innocent patsy.

Moon landing: cast doubt on a crown jewel of American achievement. Leaving the Soviets to have the greater accomplishment with the first person in space.

Why it's almost as if commies have been spending the last 70 years manipulating gullible people to tear down our country and prop up communists instead.

Posted by: Sjg at May 09, 2026 11:54 AM (i8HNq)

35 Apparently, it's loaded up with other ahistorical embellishments.

Sad.
Posted by: naturalfake

Just tried to watch the latest Agatha Christie adaptation. I should have just avoided because A ) BBC production B ) directed by the guy who killed Dr Who, Chris Chibnall, aka Chinball.

They race swap a pivotal character, a German inventor who has an advanced steel formula, with a - get this - a guy from Gambia. You might be thinking, " huh?" Right, so, they give him a backstory; he graduated from a German university but then was drafted in WWI to go fight in Africa for Germany. And horror of horrors, he had to kill his fellow tribesmen. Colonolmisms bad, mm'kay.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 09, 2026 11:55 AM (diia5)

36 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2026 11:53 AM (uEYKS)

Yes indeed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 11:56 AM (Yl2Ob)

37 Apollo 11 Almost Never Left the Moon

We watched The Martian the other night. One impressive part was the plan to get the man from the surface to the spaceship overhead. Everything about it seemed insane and nearly preposterous. Watching this video on Apollo 11, I just thought, it was just as insane and preposterous. And just like the fiction, the real lunar rendezvous actually worked.

As the Byrds sang, they had God's helping hand.
https://youtu.be/qLLDQhA1Z7c

Posted by: mindful webworker - millions of hearts were lifted at May 09, 2026 11:56 AM (Cl/mc)

38 Why don't .we have J.S Bach played by a black woman?!

A black transgender quadriplegic woman with cerebral palsy.

Posted by: Might as well swing for the fences at May 09, 2026 11:57 AM (TbWk/)

39 "...you guys have got to see this 7 panel comic for checking an ewok's prostate."
Posted by: big
++++

No. No, we don't.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 09, 2026 11:59 AM (2Ez/1)

40 The Dems are now playing up Supreme Court packing should they take control of Congress. If the Stupid Party had any smarts, they'd say, "your right, let's not wait" and introduce just such a bill now, and force the Dems to come out against court packing.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 09, 2026 12:00 PM (j7INY)

41

CIA=WEF=HYDRA

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 09, 2026 12:00 PM (IurJ0)

42 TJM brought up a very old war movie thst a Japanese officer wasn't played by a Japanese. That doesn't bother me much as getting a Japanese to play a very bad guy not that many years after the war.
Changing a character for other reasoning is questionable
Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 11:51 AM (Ia/+0)

It wasn't so much that as they just didn't have very many Japanese actors, especially at that time, so they used whatever they had around. And, of course, old Hollywood racism against any groups but whites and bigotry against middle America presuming nobody there would tolerate an actual Japanese gentleman
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2026 11:53 AM (uEYKS)

Well, maybe, but I think that's kind of a silly point. When the Japanese or Koreans or Chinese make a cowboy movie (and they have), they use J or K or C actors, of course. It's a movie for their customers.

Or when "Amadeus" played on the stage in Japan, they used Japanese actors...naturally.

In that case, race switching works (for them) and is perfectly understandable. They are trying to entertain, not teach a lesson.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2026 12:01 PM (iJfKG)

43 Exactly, but you can bet people would be outraged -and rightfully so -if a story about Harriet Tubman had a white woman playing her.

"Amadeus" is an odd enough story, while being very engaging . without messing around with transposing actors who are of a different ethnicity
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Yl2Ob)

I, for one, look forward to the Netflix remake of "Downfall" with Denzel Washington playing the lead character.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 09, 2026 12:01 PM (YYotJ)

44 @38 I like The Martian and thought Matt Damon and the rest of the cast was good. Good book also.
The launch from Mars was a little off to me . When they took off the nose cone and removed the windows the aerodynamics would have been all screwed up and I doubt the rocket would have flown straight. But it was sci-fi

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2026 12:02 PM (gu0hJ)

45 Vito Scotti could play any kind of ethnic. He was a Japanese sub sailor on Gilligan's Island, for example.

Posted by: You Steam Glasses! at May 09, 2026 12:02 PM (oftw2)

46 Posted by: Might as well swing for the fences at May 09, 2026 11:57 AM (TbWk/

I think she's busy being a fashion model right now and hasn't yet made the transition to acting on the big screen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 12:02 PM (Nx5jP)

47 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 09, 2026 12:01 PM (YYotJ)

LOL. Hopefully Denzel Washington who seems like a decent, intelligent fellow if offered the part would say, "Heck no!!"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 12:04 PM (Nx5jP)

48 I, for one, look forward to the Netflix remake of "Downfall" with Denzel Washington playing the lead character.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 09, 2026 12:01 PM (YYotJ)

King Kong hat nichts sheisse mich!

Posted by: Der Trainingstag at May 09, 2026 12:05 PM (TbWk/)

49 Moon landing: cast doubt on a crown jewel of American achievement. Leaving the Soviets to have the greater accomplishment with the first person in space.

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The greatest proof that we landed on the moon is that the Soviet Leadership congratulated us on our achievement. They could have cried "fake" back in the late 60s and even if they were lying it would have embarrassed the United States

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 09, 2026 12:05 PM (IurJ0)

50 The Dems are now playing up Supreme Court packing should they take control of Congress. If the Stupid Party had any smarts, they'd say, "your right, let's not wait" and introduce just such a bill now, and force the Dems to come out against court packing.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at May 09, 2026 12:00 PM (j7INY)

Be careful what you wish for. Perhaps the Dems might agree to giving the GOP six more judges now, just so the Dems can add 15 more when they get the chance.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 09, 2026 12:06 PM (YYotJ)

51 Vito Scotti could play any kind of ethnic. He was a Japanese sub sailor on Gilligan's Island, for example.

He was also a Gypsie on The Andy Griffith Show. He had another role on Gilligan's Island as a mad scientist with an outrageous Eastern European accent.

That's versatility!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 09, 2026 12:06 PM (COQGW)

52 Come join us. We meet this Wednesday at 7pm at the Elks Lodge.

Posted by: The Flat Moon Society at May 09, 2026 12:07 PM (2Ez/1)

53
Why don't .we have J.S Bach played by a black woman?!

A black transgender quadriplegic woman with cerebral palsy.

Female Beethoven in space!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 09, 2026 12:08 PM (Cqx++)

54 The greatest proof that we landed on the moon is that the Soviet Leadership congratulated us on our achievement.

Sure, but who's to say they weren't in on the plot?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 09, 2026 12:10 PM (COQGW)

55 Rubio has another new job ...

https://tinyurl.com/39dm6fvd

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 09, 2026 12:12 PM (aUMnT)

56 When do conspiracy theories go too far? When one uses the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy to cherry pick evidence while ignoring countervailing evidence.

Basically people should act like an objective scientist and treat their own claims more harshly in regards to evidence supporting their claim than evidence pointing in the opposite direction.

Far too many people though use an advocate (prove me wrong) attorney style presentation where you are the prosecutor. They overlook that in an adversarial system, that the other side always gets defense counsel in criminal cases.

Attorneys are allowed to do a number of logical fallacies in presenting their cases to the court because the other side is there to stomp over them in when their turn comes up before the jury. So the jury picks between two different presentations of the same facts allowed in as evidence.

Outside of formal debates or trials, courtroom adversarial type fact finding has little or nothing to do with trying to establish 'truth'. Even there, civil law systems rely more on written dossier systems than the adversarial oral style preferred in Anglo countries. And they rely on a panel of experienced judges.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:13 PM (E4rtv)

57 Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 09, 2026 12:12 PM (aUMnT

I have enjoyed those memes. I thought that's this was one of the funniest ones, though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 12:14 PM (2sfNr)

58 The greatest proof that we landed on the moon is that the Soviet Leadership congratulated us on our achievement.

Sure, but who's to say they weren't in on the plot?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 09, 2026 12:10 PM (COQGW)

I take it you didn't grow up during the cold war and the space race era.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 09, 2026 12:14 PM (5xuJ/)

59 Be careful what you wish for. Perhaps the Dems might agree to giving the GOP six more judges now, just so the Dems can add 15 more when they get the chance.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Either way packing the court or ignoring the court, the Dems are not that far away from open warfare because they view themselves as losing access to power and money.

Last time this happened in 1860 election, they seceded and started a civil war.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:15 PM (E4rtv)

60 Sure, but who's to say they weren't in on the plot?
Posted by: Cicero
========
Lawyers are professional cynics.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:16 PM (E4rtv)

61 one of the funniest ones, though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 12:14 PM (2sfNr)

It should be a good test if you have any left-wing friends. If they don't laugh at that one then they are probably beyond help.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 09, 2026 12:16 PM (aUMnT)

62 follow me down the rabbit hole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV2KWNijtyg

Posted by: DaveA at May 09, 2026 12:17 PM (PMJuY)

63 If everybody in Amadeus the play was played by Japanese people while they are doing a run of the show in Japan it makes sense. Japanese actors need work too. It does not make sense to me to have one actor played by a Japanese man.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 12:17 PM (2sfNr)

64 I have done some research and I believe that the moon landing was faked and everyone alive then was in on it except myself, a newbie ensign assigned to the bilge tank on a destroyer and the entire woodwind section of a major orchestra

Posted by: Ray's Cyst at May 09, 2026 12:17 PM (jrgJz)

65 Sowell is 100% correct.
The Soviets were telling us since the 50's that they would bury us, following the Marxist playbook of rotting us from within- destroy the family, faith, and national pride, in order to make the state the Father and Mother, cradle-to-grave.
Look at what Sowell says...
And look at today's democrat party and their Pravda media.
McCarthy was right.
Posted by: UncleJefe at May 09, 2026 11:39 AM (DzC+b)

I should save this for the book thread, but I'm reading The Journal of David Q Little and it feels like it's yesterday's news. It's about the fictitious socialist/communist take over of the US and it doesn't feel fictitious. Why isn't this book required reading in high schools? It's right up there with any Orwell.

Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:18 PM (XiTQh)

66 I've made the same point as Sean McCarthy there.

The left tells me Nat Sec agencies spent the whole cold war false flagging leftist groups which were in fact completely peaceful.

But then will response to things like the fake Whitmer kidnapping or the Obama staffer led "Unite the Right" rally and argue you'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to not believe them to be true...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:18 PM (sKqQm)

67 55 The greatest proof that we landed on the moon is that the Soviet Leadership congratulated us on our achievement.

Sure, but who's to say they weren't in on the plot?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 09, 2026 12:10 PM (COQGW)

Think about it. It's brilliant.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2026 12:19 PM (bss/y)

68 Either way packing the court or ignoring the court, the Dems are not that far away from open warfare because they view themselves as losing access to power and money.

Last time this happened in 1860 election, they seceded and started a civil war.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:15 PM (E4rtv)

Maybe this time they can secede and fuck off.

Nah, they need to control. It is never enough.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2026 12:20 PM (bss/y)

69 I wouldn't put a ton of credence on Stew Peters.

Yes he was willing to dive right into COVIDmania back in the day but he's like a more coherent less reliable Alex Jones.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:20 PM (sKqQm)

70 63 follow me down the rabbit hole

Posted by: DaveA at May 09, 2026 12:17 PM (PMJuY)

1. Lyrics only ?
2. Blue Oyster ?

I thought it was a cult.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 09, 2026 12:20 PM (aUMnT)

71
The greatest proof that we landed on the moon is that the Soviet Leadership congratulated us on our achievement.

Sure, but who's to say they weren't in on the plot?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

================

I wonder when this plot is going to come to fruition. This must be the longest Act Two in the history of conspiracy plots.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 09, 2026 12:21 PM (XJ22o)

72 Ryan Long just put up perhaps his best video.

Its a little less directly funny and more straight into why the Karen meme has been so effective...https://tinyurl.com/jtd4d3ej

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:21 PM (sKqQm)

73 I also just came across a song by a jazz singer called the Sports Page. Veronica Swift. It's about how only the sports page reports facts. Everything else is BS.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2FHTui4IN4Y

Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:22 PM (XiTQh)

74 If everybody in Amadeus the play was played by Japanese people while they are doing a run of the show in Japan it makes sense. Japanese actors need work too. It does not make sense to me to have one actor played by a Japanese man.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 12:17 PM (2sfNr)

On the other hand, take on one role for the studio and people just can't stop talking about it and criticizing it. Like, forever!

-- I. Y. Yunioshi

Posted by: Zombie Mickey Rooney at May 09, 2026 12:25 PM (wVcYX)

75 Its a little less directly funny and more straight into why the Karen meme has been so effective...https://tinyurl.com/jtd4d3ej
Posted by: 18-1

That's fantastic!!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2026 12:26 PM (Kyh8Y)

76 Maybe this time they can secede and fuck off.

Nah, they need to control. It is never enough.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Their rotten borough cities are not sustainable is why they don't secede. Without the countryside which might do a West Virginia on them staying in the Union, the coastal strips cannot survive on their own.

Unfortunately, that makes it more likely to resemble the Spanish Civil War than anything else.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:26 PM (E4rtv)

77 Overall conspiracy theory isn't a useful term. The following are all conspiracy theories per the FNM:

There was fraud in the 2020 election
The earth is flat
COVID came from a Chinese lab
The moon landing is faked

And conversely the following are all true

There was fraud/collusion in the 2016 election
Millions of eligible voters are denied the vote
Elon Musk is a NAZI
Donald Trump has dementia

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:27 PM (sKqQm)

78 Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:22 PM (XiTQh)

That was very good.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 09, 2026 12:27 PM (aUMnT)

79 Is something or other a conspiracy? Probably, but it can never be known. Everyone in our institutions are proven liars who cover up the truth when they aren't lying, which they only have to do when a coverup isn't cutting it.

Most of the noninstitutional people who talk about conspiracies are liars of another stripe, or loony cranks. The few who seem credible never have any evidence to back up anything, because of all the lies and coverups.

So, to me, conspiracy theories are the same as the accepted truth - they can be categorically dismissed out of hand just like the bien pensant received wisdom, because we live in an environment where the truth is locked in a Schrodinger's Box at the heart of a hall of funhouse mirrors. It's full epistemic rupture.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 09, 2026 12:28 PM (BI5O2)

80 73 Ryan Long just put up perhaps his best video.

Its a little less directly funny and more straight into why the Karen meme has been so effective...https://tinyurl.com/jtd4d3ej
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:21 PM (sKqQm)

Not bad. The sound was a bit whacked at first but I managed to keep slapping buttons until it came through.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2026 12:29 PM (bss/y)

81 78 Overall conspiracy theory isn't a useful term. The following are all conspiracy theories per the FNM:

Posted by: 18-1
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Easier to just go with don't believe anything that the media tells you. Everything that they spout requires corroborating evidence that you can personally witness before one should believe them.

They threw objectivity out the window decades ago.

Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:29 PM (E4rtv)

82 Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:22 PM (XiTQh)

That was very good.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at May 09, 2026 12:27 PM (aUMnT)

There's a version of her with Emmet Cohen doing that song live which is killer.

Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:29 PM (XiTQh)

83 Here is why the left will never, ever voluntarily leave...

Back during the Obamacare debate I discussed with a lot of left leaning people and I consistently made the point if they believed there is a "human right" to free healthcare there is nothing stopping them from forming a collective with whatever groups they want.

The answer? BUT THEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE.

And its that way with everything. Socialism doesn't "win" unless they can steal everything from productive members of society first

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)

84 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yojfQ_zzEXw

‘Condoms and drugs’: Greta’s ‘bonking boat’ now the laughingstock of the world

Posted by: Ray's Cyst at May 09, 2026 12:30 PM (jrgJz)

85 Unfortunately, that makes it more likely to resemble the Spanish Civil War than anything else.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:26 PM (E4rtv)

I would wager that california COULD sustain itself food wise (more than enough.) Two problems:

1) They depend on water from outside the state.

2) They would never allow MORE farming?! When groups spliter they tend to become MORE fervent in their beliefs (especially those relating to the dispute.) They would literally all commit mass suicide. Then we walk in, take the state.

The odd thing is that I think the same thing would happen to our side- but it would have the opposite effect.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2026 12:31 PM (bss/y)

86 Easier to just go with don't believe anything that the media tells you. Everything that they spout requires corroborating evidence that you can personally witness before one should believe them.

They threw objectivity out the window decades ago.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2026 12:29 PM (E4rtv)

Yep. This is why I'm increasingly ignoring news. The only things I can believe are what I take in with my 5 senses. It's why I hope that everything turns back to local interest only.

Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:32 PM (XiTQh)

87 And its that way with everything. Socialism doesn't "win" unless they can steal everything from productive members of society first
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)

And it's not a... consequence? Or a means to an end- to them it is an end in of itself. Perhaps more so than anything else. They want to punish. Obama flashed that multiple times.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2026 12:33 PM (bss/y)

88 Aerodynamics on a planet without a lot of air is somewhat moot.

Posted by: gKWVE at May 09, 2026 12:34 PM (sDWtc)

89 Oh and another thing with the term conspiracy theory.

It is literally a theory that involves a group of people engaged in a conspiracy. Well...that happens all the time and no one pats an eye...a group of punks conspiring to sell drugs, break into houses, or defraud the elderly? Does anyone deny this sort of conspiracy happens?

The real first step in assessing these sort of theories is, "would it make sense for the people in this group that has been identified to secretly engage in some activity based on their own views?"

Leftist conspiracy theories almost always fail here. For example why would Christians want to live like Muslims/The Handmaid's Tale?

Right leaning conspiracy theories run the gamut but are way more likely to actually first meet this qualification.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:35 PM (sKqQm)

90 His entire package of grievances was a neatly tied up box of manipulated rhetoric, things taken out of context, false memories and mythmaking that was completely and totally false.

Didn't this once be known simply as batshit crazy.

Posted by: From about That Time at May 09, 2026 12:35 PM (YJg+k)

91 Back during the Obamacare debate I discussed with a lot of left leaning people and I consistently made the point if they believed there is a "human right" to free healthcare there is nothing stopping them from ...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)

Returning to slavery. If a service must be free and is a human right, then that means you're enabling someone. I mean we all know they want slavery, but they can't come out and say it.

Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:35 PM (XiTQh)

92 Returning to slavery. If a service must be free and is a human right, then that means you're enabling someone. I mean we all know they want slavery, but they can't come out and say it.

I saw a news story from a blue state where some Karen built a shack on her property for a "refugee" who she had coincidently cooking and cleaning her house. Karen argued Maria *wanted* to help her out in return for the shack...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:37 PM (sKqQm)

93 On some level you wonder if all the race and gender swapping of historical characters has the sinister globalist purpose of sticking it in the public mind that there really is no such thing as a European or Korean or African or Arab and through all time all the races were everywhere and it was just Evil White People that made history look like white people invented everything. The general public tends to believe what they saw on TV over reality

Posted by: Azjaeger at May 09, 2026 12:45 PM (3/XaG)

94 Sowell is correct. As Mike Benz has documented, the CIA got laid out over the coals in the 70s because, among other things, they were anti-communist, which the Democrats didn't like. Part of their rehabilitation, which Reagan unfortunately signed off on, was making them more communist and setting up their NGO cutout network, including USAID.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 09, 2026 12:46 PM (QZThv)

95 66 Sowell is 100% correct.
The Soviets were telling us since the 50's that they would bury us, following the Marxist playbook of rotting us from within- destroy the family, faith, and national pride, in order to make the state the Father and Mother, cradle-to-grave.
Look at what Sowell says...
And look at today's democrat party and their Pravda media.
McCarthy was right.
Posted by: UncleJefe at May 09, 2026 11:39 AM (DzC+b)

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Most of the old soviet leaders are very concerned that they have created a monster in America. American academics are way more into communism than any of the old soviets ever were. They less into the actual communism and more into just killing their enemies, they also like to constantly create new enemies. The leftists hate everything about human existence and one day they might command the worlds most powerful military and nuclear arsenal.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 09, 2026 12:47 PM (IurJ0)

96 I saw a news story from a blue state where some Karen built a shack on her property for a "refugee" who she had coincidently cooking and cleaning her house. Karen argued Maria *wanted* to help her out in return for the shack...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:37 PM (sKqQm)

Payment in kind is a thing. Free room and board in exchange for light housekeeping duties is not necessarily a bad deal.

Two caveats: "Maria" has a job, so no welfare for her. And,
secondly, Karen has to allow her sufficient time off to hunt for a regular job so that "Maria" can improve her situation.

Oh, third caveat: Maria has to have legal residency. Full stop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2026 12:47 PM (utfVc)

97 A woman who looked like the VP's wife was at an event with the shooter in 2017

There's a significant leap between there and "the shooter was best friends with the VP and his wife". I assume KT intended some sarcasm there?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 09, 2026 12:49 PM (QZThv)

98 Back during the Obamacare debate I discussed with a lot of left leaning people and I consistently made the point if they believed there is a "human right" to free healthcare there is nothing stopping them from ...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2026 12:30 PM (sKqQm)

Eva Peron stated regularly "where there is a need there is a right" and that was the basis for the Peronist social welfare system.

Which turned Argentina into a basket case, economically. Another endless economic recession.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2026 12:52 PM (rbvCR)

99 94 On some level you wonder if all the race and gender swapping of historical characters has the sinister globalist purpose of sticking it in the public mind that there really is no such thing as a European or Korean or African or Arab and through all time all the races were everywhere and it was just Evil White People that made history look like white people invented everything. The general public tends to believe what they saw on TV over reality
Posted by: Azjaeger at May 09, 2026 12:45 PM (3/XaG)

May be something to that. One of the phrases that's been adopted among anti-immigration-enforcement progressive types is "they're all just people" or "they're all human beings," which I believe was inserted by globalists to diminish the idea of nation-states, and of distinctions between cultures, or that cultures can be compared as better or worse than others. A Somali fraudster is a Norwegian businessman is an Eritrean serial rapist. All morally equivalent, no concerns or consideration regarding their country of origin allowed.

Posted by: All of a piece at May 09, 2026 12:53 PM (TbWk/)

100 Get the Apollo 11/Breaker story from Buzz Aldrin himself rather than the AI Slop:

https://youtu.be/NdGVYfJzkhA

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at May 09, 2026 12:55 PM (O7YUW)

101 Thats Marxism theory, everything is free. Of course everything can't be free as sooner no one does anything because its free so why waste my time.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 12:58 PM (Ia/+0)

102 May be something to that. One of the phrases that's been adopted among anti-immigration-enforcement progressive types is "they're all just people" or "they're all human beings," which I believe was inserted by globalists to diminish the idea of nation-states, and of distinctions between cultures, or that cultures can be compared as better or worse than others.

White people have the world's best win/loss record against tyranny (and especially Communist/socialist tyranny), so they probably want to breed that out of the human race. Hence the ads in Ukraine and Denmark trying to convince people that only mixed race children are human.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 09, 2026 12:58 PM (QZThv)

103 Read recently foreigners do think everything here is free, or all but to thosecwho can't affordvit. Housing, food, transportation, phones, schools.

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 01:01 PM (Ia/+0)

104 I am surprised people are seeing the Fosse influence in MJ just now. But it isn’t just MJ, Fosse is an icon, the pioneer of jazz dancing.

Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2026 01:03 PM (hftzA)

105 and jazz hands

Posted by: doug at May 09, 2026 01:07 PM (Hy+R4)

106 Posted by: InZona at May 09, 2026 12:32 PM (XiTQh)

I think your decision makes good sense, as well as being something that would contribute to greater peace of mind for those that chose it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 01:07 PM (2sfNr)

107 Alex Jones seeming less crazy every day.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 09, 2026 01:07 PM (abIsI)

108 Virginia Marxists freak over the Va Supreme Court shot down their vote grab.
Minnesota Marxists unanimously vote to keep the dead voting.

Its going to be a rough year until the mid term election

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 01:10 PM (Ia/+0)

109 My great uncle worked for NASA on the Apollo program. After he retired, he got interested in D & D because he saw all of the figures I had hand painted in my youth, and so that became his retirement hobby.

Total dork. It was never a conspiracy to him.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 09, 2026 01:16 PM (D1E+2)

110 Shall I compare thee to a blazing Molotov cocktail?

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Michelle said Barack quoted Saul Alinsky on their first date. That was "the moment she knew" it was love. or something.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 09, 2026 01:18 PM (AZFgu)

111 Its going to be a rough year until the mid term election
Posted by: Skip

Then the the shit REALLY hits the fan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 09, 2026 01:20 PM (AZFgu)

112 AW especially if they lose, or win and think they have the advantage

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 01:24 PM (Ia/+0)

113 "Most of the old soviet leaders are very concerned that they have created a monster in America."

This is BS.

Link please.

Posted by: pawn at May 09, 2026 01:25 PM (+rSJz)

114 Lawyers are professional cynics.
Posted by: whig

Some of us don't need to be paid.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at May 09, 2026 01:27 PM (W5mpo)

115 "Shall I compare thee to a blazing Molotov cocktail?"

"I was smitten by his quoting of Saul Alinsky "just sounds ludicrous, as if was made up, Yes, I'm sure the multi multi millionaire Michelle Obama was smitten by that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 01:28 PM (rZCVI)

116 The leftists hate everything about human existence and one day they might command the worlds most powerful military and nuclear arsenal.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 09, 2026 12:47 PM (IurJ0)

[reading from the sacred scrolls of the apes] Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.

Posted by: Cornelius at May 09, 2026 01:29 PM (wVcYX)

117 GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 09, 2026 01:32 PM (Ia/+0)

118 IIRC one of the moon landings had a device, covered with mirrors, that was setup on the surface. It's purpose was to allow precise measurements of the distance between the Earth and the Moon, using lasers.

So, if that experiment works (or worked) some of the deniers need to explain that one away. Convincingly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2026 01:32 PM (jehhT)

119 Who actually remembers what their spouse said on the first date unless it was something like "So, you want to go to bed together now?" I remember my husband being kind and funny. I don't remember what he said, but then neither of us were in luv with the writings of communists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 01:32 PM (rZCVI)

120 @38 I like The Martian and thought Matt Damon and the rest of the cast was good. Good book also.
The launch from Mars was a little off to me . When they took off the nose cone and removed the windows the aerodynamics would have been all screwed up and I doubt the rocket would have flown straight. But it was sci-fi
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2026 12:02 PM (gu0hJ)

Mars' atmo is so thin that its possible that the nose cap doesn't contribute much relative to a launch from Earth. But I didn't see the movie. If the overall mass is reduced it might be a win overall. I did not see the movie.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:36 PM (Ai6WH)

121 IIRC one of the moon landings had a device, covered with mirrors, that was setup on the surface. It's purpose was to allow precise measurements of the distance between the Earth and the Moon, using lasers.

So, if that experiment works (or worked) some of the deniers need to explain that one away. Convincingly.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2026 01:32 PM (jehhT)

I've seen a demonstration of the device on YT or somewhere. Its set up to reflect a laser back to its source no matter the direction of the incoming laser. You enter the coordinates of the landing site and you see a big return signal. Move it off that site, you get no signal at all.

Also, they have taken hi res photos of lunar landing sites that show the equipment left behind.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:40 PM (Ai6WH)

122 "Most of the old soviet leaders are very concerned that they have created a monster in America."

This is BS.

Link please.
Posted by: pawn at May 09, 2026 01:25 PM (+rSJz)

most of the old Soviet leaders are dead. it was nearly a generation ago.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:42 PM (Ai6WH)

123 My great uncle worked for NASA on the Apollo program. After he retired, he got interested in D & D because he saw all of the figures I had hand painted in my youth, and so that became his retirement hobby.

Total dork. It was never a conspiracy to him.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 09, 2026 01:16 PM (D1E+2)

it would have been almost harder to fake it than do it with that tech. People were watching the liftoff, so they'd have to make a Saturn V and stack and launch it into space. Once you do that, might as well stick three guys into it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:44 PM (Ai6WH)

124 On some level you wonder if all the race and gender swapping of historical characters has the sinister globalist purpose of sticking it in the public mind that there really is no such thing as a European or Korean or African or Arab and through all time all the races were everywhere and it was just Evil White People that made history look like white people invented everything. The general public tends to believe what they saw on TV over reality
Posted by: Azjaeger at May 09, 2026 12:45 PM (3/XaG)

It is exactly the reverse, because they advertise it as a feature just to rile up there audience. It is a demonstration that they have the power to force a stupid casting decision on the audience that won't accept it. It is racial/cultural division, not a 'we are all alike' move.

It is also financially suicidal, so I don't get too angry at it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:50 PM (Ai6WH)

125 I have done some research and I believe that the moon landing was faked and everyone alive then was in on it except myself, a newbie ensign assigned to the bilge tank on a destroyer and the entire woodwind section of a major orchestra
Posted by: Ray's Cyst at May 09, 2026 12:17 PM (jrgJz)

This is true, as an 8 year old in Ohio I had my full mission brief and planning sessions in hand at the time.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:52 PM (Ai6WH)

126 "Shall I compare thee to a blazing Molotov cocktail?"

"I was smitten by his quoting of Saul Alinsky "just sounds ludicrous, as if was made up, Yes, I'm sure the multi multi millionaire Michelle Obama was smitten by that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 01:28 PM (rZCVI)

No way the Obamas ever used the word 'smitten' seriously in their life.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 09, 2026 01:53 PM (Ai6WH)

127 TRex on kids nutrition?

https://tinyurl.com/39kkrd2k+

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 09, 2026 01:54 PM (qx7Zg)

128 VDH on the Democrat, er, Jacobin Party.

https://tinyurl.com/muxa53r9+

I tend to agree with his take, including about Sen. Fetterman.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 09, 2026 01:59 PM (qx7Zg)

129 > No way the Obamas ever used the word 'smitten' seriously in their life.
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I look forward to the day that their whole "marriage" is revealed to be a sham, Big Mike comes out of the closet and the JEF is affirmed teh ghey.

Nobody here will bat an eye.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2026 02:01 PM (jehhT)

130 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 09, 2026 01:59 PM (qx7Zg)

Very good article by VDH. Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2026 02:14 PM (ix8EF)

131 >>>Watch Bob Fosse's snake performance in "The Little Prince" from 1974 and tell me you don't see Michael Jackson's entire dance career born in real time.

WOW!

Posted by: m at May 09, 2026 02:19 PM (RtN13)

132 Tom Sowell, Living National Treasure!

and, note well, he said that 27 years ago!
27 years in which they received little or no pushback ...

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