China Made a Ton of Risky Loans to Third-World Nations to Bring Them Under Its Sphere of Influence. Now Those Loans are Turning Bad.<br>China Wants the US to Bail It Out.

China Made a Ton of Risky Loans to Third-World Nations to Bring Them Under Its Sphere of Influence. Now Those Loans are Turning Bad.
China Wants the US to Bail It Out.

This is such a disgusting demand to even make that I'm 90% sure that the "US" Congress will agree to to it.

Why Trump is doing this, I have no idea. I saw someone saying that he inherited this position from Biden's Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, but that doesn't seem like a good reason to keep it.

President Trump is scheduled to visit Beijing in May for a summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping, and he will come bearing at least one surprising gift: A budget request to Congress to hand more money to Mr. Xi's friends at the International Monetary Fund.
We told you recently about the Trump Administration's fiscal 2026 request that Congress endorse a U.S. quota increase of 50%, equivalent to about $55 billion. The quota is a country's contribution to the fund. Congress didn't pass the White House request, but the Administration includes it again in its recent fiscal 2027 proposal.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen initiated the request in the Biden era, and it's hard to understand why the Trump Treasury would endorse it. It's true, as Treasury says, that the U.S. receives an "interest-bearing claim on the IMF" for those assets. But it's not a wash because the interest rate doesn't compensate for the cost of funds or the risk.

More harmful is the cost to U.S. control over IMF resources, which Treasury conceals... What Treasury doesn't disclose is the hit to U.S. power when the IMF gets more of its resources from equity than debt.
The fund's use of debt via New Arrangements to Borrow requires 85% approval of voting shares. Since the U.S. has almost 16% of those shares, it has a veto over the use of those resources. It also has an effective veto over Bilateral Borrowing Agreements. But it has no veto power over use of equity--that is, the quota resources.

I think this means that the money we pour into the IMF through this "quota" will be used according to how the multinational organization IMF decides -- and we'll have no say.

And whose power over the use of those funds will increase? Well, China's, of course.

Mr. Xi wants a greater role for China in all multilateral institutions at the expense of U.S. influence. Shifting total fund resources toward quotas would shrink U.S. veto power over IMF resources to 38% from about 60%. IMF managing director Kristalina Georgieva said recently she's optimistic Congress will pass the increase this year that will bolster the fund's $1 trillion in lending capacity from its own resources, rather than from borrowing over which the U.S. has more influence.
That will be welcome news in Beijing, which wants to use the fund to rescue the array of distressed Chinese loans around the world. Let's hope Congress says no again.

I don't know if Trump made this promise to get China to agree to something else. But China's sending dual-use materials to Iran after having vowed that they would not, so I don't see the value of a CCP promise.

Bonchie
@bonchieredstate
5h
China went around Africa and South America making predatory loans in an attempt to make money and seize infrastructure for the most useful part of its lifespan.
And now it wants others to pay for its bad bets.
We hold 16% of the vote over the IMF. The answer should be no.

Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
Apr 22
This is a terrible idea.
Congress should say hell NO, to bailing out China.

Related: I give Trump a knock, now I'll give him a plaudit.

Marco Rubio is reportedly about to announce a permanent cut-off of all aid to the Pirate Collective of Somalia after the pirates there demolished a warehouse containing 76 tons of American food aid.

🚨 BREAKING: Secretary of State Marco Rubio is expected to PERMANENTLY CUT OFF U.S. aid to Somalia after the country demolished a warehouse holding 76 TONS of American food, per Daily Wire.

GOOD. Cut off the gravy train.

Rubio said it perfectly. Foreign aid is NOT charity. It… pic.twitter.com/TywvAg23Ph
— Pascal Najadi (USSF)🇺🇸 (@JfkPascalNajadX) April 23, 2026

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 05:52 PM

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Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 05:52 PM (GD0B3)

2 numero uno!!

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 05:52 PM (GD0B3)

3 When it come to loans... I will trust Trump's people like Bessent to screw China so bad they'd be begging for Japan to invade them again. lol

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 05:54 PM (GD0B3)

4 I nominate Judge Smails as undersecretary of Treasury.

Posted by: gKWVE at April 23, 2026 05:54 PM (gKWVE)

5 $$55 Billion to Dems is nothing...pocket money.
Just print more! Easy peasy!

Posted by: Joemarine at April 23, 2026 05:56 PM (y171U)

6
If we don't bail out China, Grandma is going to lose her 401k!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 05:56 PM (tgvbd)

7 Bold ace looks darkly, but coquettishly on Brave Hector...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 23, 2026 05:56 PM (zZu0s)

8 A U.S. special forces soldier tied to the capture of Venezuelan President Maduro was arrested after betting on the (his) mission and making $400,000 in profits - CNN

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2026 05:56 PM (CNl8/)

9 Since this is both evil and stupid, it's assured of bipartisan support.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 23, 2026 05:57 PM (AlhUl)

10 Knowing Trump I would imagine he’s using this as leverage to force China into a better deal

It’s not going to be a freebie with no strings attached is what I’m thinking

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Where Are My Keto Cheetos at April 23, 2026 05:57 PM (REq0p)

11 Anyone else feeling like a fool reading about this crap day after day.

Rules and morals seem to be for suckers.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 23, 2026 05:57 PM (Sco7b)

12 I've seen enough Trump for a very long time and obviously even more over the last decade to know he never gives anything away for free, particularly when it's for the country.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I see the whole deal.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (viF8m)

13 Joemarine

Take the Democrats money from them via reimbursement for plasma donation. They are too old for sperm donation for money.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (u82oZ)

14 So Marco is captain now?

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (YZ0Fo)

15 Marco Rubio is reportedly about to announce a permanent cut-off of all aid to the Pirate Collective of Somalia after the pirates there demolished a warehouse containing 76 tons of American food aid.
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Have we no gratitude? Somalians built America.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (AlhUl)

16 Can we stop giving foreigners who hate us massive amounts of money?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (1Ff7Z)

17 Boyfriend go 'pfffft', not China loans!

Posted by: Fang Fang at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (0sNs1)

18 Foreign aid is not charity. Well said Mr Secretary of State.

Posted by: Joemarine at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (y171U)

19
Of course it's a terrible idea. That's why we'll probably do it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 05:59 PM (tgvbd)

20 If China has any interest in trade in the strait they'll have to become part of the negotiation making the EU, the UN, and NATO look like fags. It's all playing out splendidly.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at April 23, 2026 05:59 PM (Fbc0I)

21 There is no promise China could make that should be trusted. "If you can cheat, you cheat" is there version of a bon mot.
Even if Trump goes through with a deal, the CCPs contribution should be in advance, and then Trump should pull the carpet out from under them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 23, 2026 05:59 PM (diia5)

22
Can we stop giving foreigners who hate us massive amounts of money?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 23, 2026 05:58 PM (1Ff7Z)

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Can we stop giving citizens who hate us massive amounts of money?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 06:00 PM (tgvbd)

23 I don't think he should go to chy na at all, based on them selling chemicals to Iran.

Much less giving them money. I don't care if they go back to when Reagan found them in rice paddies. I cannot stand that temu country.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (WONhk)

24 A U.S. special forces soldier tied to the capture of Venezuelan President Maduro was arrested after betting on the (his) mission and making $400,000 in profits - CNN
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2026 05:56 PM (CNl8/)

Someone is apparently running shorts on the oil market around Trump's announcements, clearly running trades on inside information.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (rbvCR)

25 So okay. A few here despise him, some more mistrust him, by I gotta say Rubio impresses the hell out of me.

Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (Gqar8)

26 Trump's position toward China is adversarial but never enough. Like Iran, China is governed by a murderous and criminal regime. Our position should be just short of open military confrontation.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (RIvkX)

27 China has known for quite awhile that their resource-colonialism in Africa was going to be wasted.

I watched this doc on YouTube a month or so ago after I'd read about it for the first time:

https://youtu.be/-pDJ4-MtAkQ
Empire of Dust (2011)

It's the story of a Chinese project manager spending days just trying to get a load of gravel for a road project they were doing in the Congo.

If you're ever seen the Chinese man meme
"It's all so tiresome"
This documentary is where it came from.

Africa is a basket case and will be for a very long time to come.
Even when they get state of the art infrastructure they destroy it all through incompetence and neglect.

Let the Chinese rot there, if they need the resources that much.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (6ydKt)

28 The country with the highest national debt is giving out foreign aid. I say every other country should contribute to a low interest IMF loan to us.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (n5tGW)

29 The brilliant all knowing commies intended to take possession of infrastructure when the loan defaulted. Duh.

"Herro, debtor, all yowa bases are belong to me."

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at April 23, 2026 06:02 PM (YlWIZ)

30 Democracy is at stake. We need to bail out China now. #bringthemcash

Posted by: Hakeem Jeffries, Totally Not a Vampire at April 23, 2026 06:02 PM (qUkBO)

31 11 Anyone else feeling like a fool reading about this crap day after day.

Rules and morals seem to be for suckers.
Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 23, 2026 05:57 PM (Sco7b)

No. We are not the fools. We know we will have to face Jesus and have Him run over our lives with a fine tooth comb. They seem to think they will not.

We know how this ends.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 23, 2026 06:02 PM (DwqWV)

32 Seeing China whining and begging does warm my heart.

Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:02 PM (Gqar8)

33 Someone is apparently running shorts on the oil market around Trump's announcements, clearly running trades on inside information.
Posted by: Kindltot

That is likely the pretext for the impeachment proceedings coming should the Democrats get the edge after November.

Posted by: which is what Thune wants at April 23, 2026 06:02 PM (gKWVE)

34 We know how this ends.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 23, 2026 06:02 PM (DwqWV)

Thank you. I needed that.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 23, 2026 06:03 PM (Sco7b)

35 I miss the days of non stop beer and car ads.Now all we get are prescription drug and betting service ads.

Posted by: steevy at April 23, 2026 06:03 PM (YwEeS)

36 Trump's position toward China is adversarial but never enough. Like Iran, China is governed by a murderous and criminal regime. Our position should be just short of open military confrontation.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (RIvkX)
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Like, every day on, over, and under the South China Sea.

Posted by: mrp at April 23, 2026 06:03 PM (rj6Yv)

37 Africa is a basket case and will be for a very long time to come.
Even when they get state of the art infrastructure they destroy it all through incompetence and neglect.

Let the Chinese rot there, if they need the resources that much.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (6ydKt)

As we have said in the past, the problem with Africa is that it is full of Africans.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 23, 2026 06:04 PM (DwqWV)

38 Africa is a basket case and will be for a very long time to come.
Even when they get state of the art infrastructure they destroy it all through incompetence and neglect.

Let the Chinese rot there, if they need the resources that much.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (6ydKt)
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Who coroniarist now round eye?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 23, 2026 06:04 PM (RIvkX)

39 I mean, we're giving trillons of dollars to third worlders through fraud...f it, just give our grandchildren's money to china, too. Who cares??? >

Posted by: Cray Cray at April 23, 2026 06:05 PM (nCTkv)

40 Africa is a Silly Place. Let us not go there.

Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:05 PM (Gqar8)

41 Somalia has no respect for US taxpayer money. Who do they thing they are, the US congress?

Posted by: Oglebay at April 23, 2026 06:05 PM (2ap+5)

42 You're right. It's worse than I thought. Never mind.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at April 23, 2026 06:05 PM (YlWIZ)

43
China: You owe me money.

3rd World: I don't have 10 grand.

China: You don't owe me 10 grand, silly. You did 46 months ago. And now $10,000 at a 20% monthly interest over 47 months means you actually owe me $43,887,000.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 06:06 PM (tgvbd)

44 Cut me some slack, Jack! Somalia chump don't want no food, Somalia chump don't get da food.

Jive-ass pirate don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.

Posted by: Secretary Rubio at April 23, 2026 06:07 PM (wVcYX)

45 I just dropped my Sens a line. No bailouts to Red China. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Cow Demon at April 23, 2026 06:07 PM (T6aVk)

46 Cut me some slack, Jack! Somalia chump don't want no food, Somalia chump don't get da food.

Jive-ass pirate don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: Secretary Rubio at April 23, 2026 06:07 PM (wVcYX)

Golly!

Posted by: Picking up what you're laying down at April 23, 2026 06:08 PM (0aYVJ)

47 They no pay, you carry.

Posted by: China at April 23, 2026 06:08 PM (n5tGW)

48 Won't you think of Panda Express?

Posted by: Fang Fang at April 23, 2026 06:09 PM (0sNs1)

49 >>Trump's position toward China is adversarial but never enough. Like Iran, China is governed by a murderous and criminal regime. Our position should be just short of open military confrontation.

So far Trump has taken two of the main gas stations, Cuba, Venezuela and much of Latin America and the Panama Canal from China. Japan is back in the weapons business and we just did a defense agreement with Indonesia. And he's crushing their economy with tariffs.

He seems to be boxing Xi in pretty strongly.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 23, 2026 06:09 PM (viF8m)

50 Can we stop giving citizens who hate us massive amounts of money?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 06:00 PM (tgvbd)

Two sides, same coin, H.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 23, 2026 06:09 PM (1Ff7Z)

51 BREAKING: DOJ announces it has arrested a US Special Forces soldier who took part in the raid that captured Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro after the soldier allegedly pocketed $400,000 by betting more than $30,000 on Maduro’s removal on Polymarket.

Name: GANNON KEN VAN DYKE

That's quite a return on investment.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2026 06:09 PM (CNl8/)

52 ProTip: Don't hire the Lambrini Girls. They complain too much.
youtube.com/watch?v=-kz_CrB0Vf0

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:09 PM (N8ZBc)

53 Jive-ass pirate don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: Secretary Rubio at April 23, 2026 06:07 PM (wVcYX)

Golly!
Posted by: Picking up what you're laying down at April 23, 2026 06:08 PM (0aYVJ)

I do love this place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 23, 2026 06:10 PM (zZu0s)

54 China Wants the US to Bail It Out.

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Ha, ha, ha

Maybe Obama and Biden would have but Trump will want something in return. How about Iran on a plate with an apple in its mouth?

Posted by: Decaf at April 23, 2026 06:11 PM (Tbs6N)

55 https://youtu.be/-pDJ4-MtAkQ
Empire of Dust (2011)

It's the story of a Chinese project manager spending days just trying to get a load of gravel for a road project they were doing in the Congo.

If you're ever seen the Chinese man meme
"It's all so tiresome"
This documentary is where it came from.

Africa is a basket case and will be for a very long time to come.
Even when they get state of the art infrastructure they destroy it all through incompetence and neglect.

Let the Chinese rot there, if they need the resources that much.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (6ydKt)

I happened to look up the Wiki summary for that a few weeks ago, and holy cow, it was depressing.

Posted by: pookysgirl curses her curiosity sometimes at April 23, 2026 06:11 PM (Wt5PA)

56 The country with the highest national debt is giving out foreign aid. I say every other country should contribute to a low interest IMF loan to us.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 23, 2026 06:01 PM (n5tGW)

Tribute for maintaining their liberty.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 23, 2026 06:11 PM (1Ff7Z)

57 "Empire of Dust (2011)" Recommended! A real eye opener.

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:12 PM (N8ZBc)

58
I thought it was understood that the CCP made the loans to Third World countries with the expectation that the dummies wouldn't be able to make the payments, and China would take possession of collateral such as land and natural resources. Now China's original plan is a problem for them? The slow economy means they can't use what they grabbed?

I don't think we're going to give China something for nothing. Everything Trump has done goes the other way.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 23, 2026 06:12 PM (bYpLU)

59 REAKING: DOJ announces it has arrested a US Special Forces soldier who took part in the raid that captured Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro after the soldier allegedly pocketed $400,000 by betting more than $30,000 on Maduro’s removal on Polymarket.

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Wonder how he was able to do that , since Polymarket does not allow US citizens. Broke more that one law he did.

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 06:12 PM (GD0B3)

60 Marco Rubio is reportedly about to announce a permanent cut-off of all aid to the Pirate Collective of Somalia after the pirates there demolished a warehouse containing 76 tons of American food aid.

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Can we trade Ilhan Omar to Somalia for the remaining ashes?

Posted by: ShainS at April 23, 2026 06:12 PM (teZkF)

61 China is asshoe. It's never a good idea to bail out an entity that wants you dead. How would any deal involving sending money to the CCP be enforced? Once they get the money, it'll be "Stupid Gwailos."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 23, 2026 06:13 PM (ynpvh)

62 Marco Rubio is reportedly about to announce a permanent cut-off of all aid to the Pirate Collective of Somalia after the pirates there demolished a warehouse containing 76 tons of American food aid.
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That's a weak plaudit, IMO. Why are we giving them ANY food aid in the first place? Not our friend, not our country, not our problem. It's not like their behavior and exploits get any worse if we ignore their self-induced plight. They are already a burden. We shouldn't be adding to that burden voluntarily.

Posted by: Orson at April 23, 2026 06:14 PM (dIske)

63 45 I just dropped my Sens a line. No bailouts to Red China. Fuck 'em.

This is precisely why Trump did it -- am I getting through to you Mr. Beale? 50 years on?
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-TrumpLaysLowDIMON
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-AmericaHazProblem
...
You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE! (and better do so before America250)

Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at April 23, 2026 06:14 PM (HNv7i)

64 That will be welcome news in Beijing, which wants to use the fund to rescue the array of distressed Chinese loans around the world. Let's hope Congress says no again.

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Don't bet against Cocaine Glitch McConnell and his fellow GOPee (establishment eunuch) butt-boys ...

Posted by: ShainS at April 23, 2026 06:14 PM (teZkF)

65 "China Wants the US to Bail It Out."

Bail them out with what exactly? Our $36 TRILLION in debt?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 23, 2026 06:14 PM (0N4FZ)

66 Someone is apparently running shorts on the oil market around Trump's announcements, clearly running trades on inside information.
Posted by: Kindltot

That is likely the pretext for the impeachment proceedings coming should the Democrats get the edge after November.
Posted by: which is what Thune wants

Joke's on them, by Congressional precedent, insider trading isn't actually illegal.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 23, 2026 06:15 PM (a+4eV)

67 I bless the rains down in Africa
I bless the rains down in Africa
I bless the rains down in Africa

Anyone "investing" in Africa deserves to lose it all. That place is a fucking mess

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2026 06:15 PM (NtVYv)

68 China: You owe me money.

3rd World: I don't have 10 grand.

China: You don't owe me 10 grand, silly. You did 46 months ago. And now $10,000 at a 20% monthly interest over 47 months means you actually owe me $43,887,000.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

3rd world: New Military Junta, who dis?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 23, 2026 06:15 PM (a+4eV)

69 Cut off aid to Somalia? Nah bruh. That check best be in the mail within 24 hours
- Some Judge, soon

Posted by: Heroq at April 23, 2026 06:16 PM (q1qnK)

70 I want Bessent to 'splain this "bailout" situation.

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 06:16 PM (GD0B3)

71 So the Chinese responded to the Nigerian emails?

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2026 06:17 PM (CNl8/)

72 Trump's position toward China is adversarial but never enough. Like Iran, China is governed by a murderous and criminal regime. Our position should be just short of open military confrontation.
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This.

Let China eat the loss.

Posted by: Methos at April 23, 2026 06:17 PM (vSvIl)

73 The China problem may have started with Nixon, I read somewhere.

Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:18 PM (Gqar8)

74 For having so many smart people we really a stupid country. For 80 years post WW2 we’ve allowed the entire world to take advantage of us. And it’s only got worse as time went on.

So yes we will almost certainly be bailing China out. It’s how we roll.

Posted by: Heroq at April 23, 2026 06:18 PM (q1qnK)

75 LIBs. Not Just Mistaken, EVIL.

"Every aspect of our lives must be subjected to an inventory"
-- Shameless Politico THUG, Nancy Pelosi'09 in Red China.

“Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of president of the United States,” Pelosi'24 feeling that she's getting real on IceKingJOE

https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-LIBsTheBotchmen
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-LIBdOutLogic
Bernie: SANE
Hillary: POOR
Terrorists: MISUNDERSTOOD
Last but not least... OBAMA: LEADER.

The LIBs ceaseless quest for the unearned remains forever ceaseless because the Value Illicitly Obtained retains no Value.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at April 23, 2026 06:18 PM (aSp5p)

76 Bold touch of Tourettes there, Ace?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at April 23, 2026 06:19 PM (yLmkL)

77 WHY IS TRUMP DOING THIS? AAAAAAAA! IT BURNS IT BURNS! AAAAAAAA!

Posted by: Guy with hair on fire at April 23, 2026 06:19 PM (vFG9F)

78 Can we stop “giving” massive amounts of money to ANYONE?

Just stop all foreign aid. Then reset.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 23, 2026 06:21 PM (W2Pud)

79 When I count pluses and minuses, Trump is doing great.

Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:21 PM (Gqar8)

80 I don't care about China. The f'n Democrats are the biggest menace.

Posted by: fd at April 23, 2026 06:21 PM (vFG9F)

81
Get rid of USAID, but bail out China.

It's a wash, no?

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 23, 2026 06:21 PM (IifOV)

82 Okay, last thread I really got it twisted around. The book I read was on the subject of "birthright citizenship" but the particular section was about the development of citizenship laws, specifically, and firstly, naturalization.

Article 1, Section 8 says: "[The Congress shall have Power] To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization". The implicit idea is that "Common Law" definition of "naturalization" is used here. So, "national citizenship" is in view, because Congress can make laws to establish the naturalization standards, whether admission is just to a state or not.

That's what the author (might even have been Levin, I don't remember) says wasn't laid out in the Constitution, but Congress had to define the parameters of it.

Were it not that Congress has become so useless as anything bug Grifter Club, I would actually prefer the representatives of the people when two branches come to blows, then give more discretion to the Judicial branch in suits like we do these days.

Posted by: Axeman at April 23, 2026 06:21 PM (Fi81e)

83 Marking the 2026 rescheduling of marihuana, here are some big hits from the 1930s-1940s:

"All the Jive is Gone"
youtube.com/watch?v=BDCPHhTDCjc
"Here Comes the Man With the Jive"
youtube.com/watch?v=Y4q7wycFTfg
"The G-Man Got the Tea Man"
youtube.com/watch?v=rrTP6wga5C0

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:22 PM (N8ZBc)

84 I can already name the GOP Senators on board with bending over for China. Cocaine Mitch is already bracing himself against the desk while two of his aides are spreading his bony cheeks.

Posted by: Orson at April 23, 2026 06:22 PM (dIske)

85 80 I don't care about China. The f'n Democrats are the biggest menace.
Posted by: fd at April 23, 2026 06:21 PM (vFG9F)

China funds Democrats . And Republicans. Not to
Mention produces most of the drugs that have killed millions of Americans and have cost us u told billions of dollars.

You may not care about China but they sure as fuck care about you.

Posted by: Heroq at April 23, 2026 06:23 PM (q1qnK)

86 We should also ban anyone from the PRC from coming to the US for any reason.

But that would be racist and I don't want the SPLC on my ass.

Or maybe they can put me on their "hate group" payroll?

Posted by: Common Sense at April 23, 2026 06:23 PM (sDJiP)

87
It seems as though doing anything in Africa is like dropping a pebble into a bucket of oil. The pebble disappears without even a splash.

Started watching Empire of Dust. There's nothing - no equipment, no building, no clothes - produced by the Africans.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 06:23 PM (tgvbd)

88

Howz about we stop giving money to everyone including people in our country.

Hey, sorry to cut off your welfare etc. Maybe if you kept your fucking legs together we wouldn't have to support your crouch rats?

It's far past time for us to be hardcore.

Posted by: four seasons at April 23, 2026 06:23 PM (3ek7K)

89 The China problem may have started with Nixon, I read somewhere.
Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:18 PM (Gqar

It started when the Chicoms were allowed into the World Trade Organization; that was Clinton and his "geniuses" who signed the deal in 1999. many of them and their donors got filthy rich.

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 06:23 PM (GD0B3)

90 "You may not care about China but they sure as fuck care about you.
Posted by: Heroq"

Meh. Over ten miles from here.

Posted by: fd at April 23, 2026 06:24 PM (vFG9F)

91 We have to remember that this is a WSJ story, based on some rumor from someone.

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (GD0B3)

92 Why are we paying taxes to feralgov...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (9vFyc)

93 While I am, admittedly in a "setting hair on fire mood" (I need to take my vitamins), I think I'm going to take a pass on lighting up just yet over this alleged China thing.

Maybe tomorrow.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (a+4eV)

94 89 The China problem may have started with Nixon, I read somewhere.
Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:18 PM (Gqar

It started when the Chicoms were allowed into the World Trade Organization; that was Clinton and his "geniuses" who signed the deal in 1999. many of them and their donors got filthy rich.
Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 06:23 PM (GD0B3)

Ah. I was thinking about Nixon’s trip he made over there, and the Most Favored Nation trading designation I read about.

Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (Gqar8)

95 Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are more of a menace than China.

Posted by: fd at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (vFG9F)

96 Lets see 76 tons of food. 76 x 2000. 152,000 lbs of food. so lets say 152 days of food for 1000 people, or about a month of food for 5000 people. Not really as huge an amount as the headline implies. But regardless if Somali pirates are going to just blow up the food and the warehouse instead of letting their hungry countrymen eat there are probably other places where people could use more food that have enough civilization to actually get the food to the hungry.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 23, 2026 06:26 PM (+89TD)

97 "You may not care about China but they sure as fuck care about your money.
Posted by: Heroq"
---
Adjusted.

Posted by: Axeman at April 23, 2026 06:26 PM (Fi81e)

98 Besides "Empire of Dust," I recommend the movies of Senegalese filmmaker Ousmane Sembene to demonstrate the hopelessness of "fixing things in Africa." It can't be done. Don't try.

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:26 PM (N8ZBc)

99
Why are we paying taxes to feralgov...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (9vFyc)

___________

It's not to fund the government. It's to show you they're your boss.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 23, 2026 06:26 PM (tgvbd)

100 Just flipped on Tousi, it seems missiles are headed for Israel, and they've indicated they're waiting on a green light from US to resume.

I'm just reading his headlines, which can be a little enthusiastic.

Posted by: Methos at April 23, 2026 06:27 PM (vSvIl)

101 67 Oh great. Thanks for that earworm.

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:27 PM (Q0yOR)

102 Cut off ais to Somalia? We've been giving money to Somalia? Cut it off. Cut Ilhan Omar off too and her Paki grifter girlfriend.

Cut it of and send them home.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 23, 2026 06:28 PM (LA6Ib)

103 Ah. I was thinking about Nixon’s trip he made over there, and the Most Favored Nation trading designation I read about.
Posted by: tubal at April 23, 2026 06:25 PM (Gqar

US can remove the status any time. The membership in WTO is permanent, there is no provision to expel member states.

Posted by: runner at April 23, 2026 06:28 PM (GD0B3)

104 83 Marking the 2026 rescheduling of marihuana, here are some big hits from the 1930s-1940s:

LIBs will be so stoned they won't care who's president -- genius.

Taken together with the fact that use of controlled substance is inconsistent with federal service -- they just signed their own resignation in a part of America250.

It won't matter how loudly they cry: Mad as hell, and won't LIB any more... they will experience FEAR for having abandoned their only means of survival, and GUILT for knowing they have done so willingly ... because there is no going back.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at April 23, 2026 06:28 PM (IJZs1)

105 Oh great. Thanks for that earworm.

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:27 PM (Q0yOR)
---
1-877-KARS4KIDS?

Posted by: Axeman at April 23, 2026 06:29 PM (Fi81e)

106 105 NOPE! I hate that commercial. About rip the knob off the radio.

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:29 PM (Q0yOR)

107 But. But. We waz Kangs!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 23, 2026 06:29 PM (zZu0s)

108 Yesterday it was published that we're 'withholding' a $500 million dollar payment tooo IRAQ.
What kind of crazy shit is this?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 23, 2026 06:30 PM (LA6Ib)

109 Oh Boy:

Fox News has learned a high-ranking Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official is on administrative leave after an investigation was launched into the leader's alleged "sugar daddy" relationship, lavish spending and drug use, according to a DHS official.

The probe unfolded after a formal complaint was filed against Julia Varvaro, 29, the DHS deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism, the Daily Mail first reported.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2026 06:30 PM (NtVYv)

110 Oh great. Thanks for that earworm.

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:27 PM (Q0yOR)
---
1-877-KARS4KIDS?
Posted by: Axeman at April 23, 2026 06:29 PM (Fi81e)

I am the eye in the sky

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2026 06:31 PM (NtVYv)

111 Only an idiot would lend money to an african country.

Posted by: Europeans 1860-1910 at April 23, 2026 06:31 PM (sDJiP)

112 That there's any aid to cut off from Somalia is a farce. Bailing out China is disgusting. There's no excuse for that.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 23, 2026 06:33 PM (5NDL0)

113 >>Ah. I was thinking about Nixon’s trip he made over there, and the Most Favored Nation trading designation I read about.

Nixon and Kissinger established relations with China as a tactic to keep them from the USSR during the Cold War. A lot of people believe in hindsight that was a mistake.

A debate that never ends.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 23, 2026 06:33 PM (viF8m)

114 110 Great song, great band.

109 Read that last night. Not so unbelievable. I worked with FEMA at HQ. I saw things. The DHS folks were..something.

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:33 PM (Q0yOR)

115 As promise from Xi is a good as a mullah's promise.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 23, 2026 06:33 PM (LA6Ib)

116 Meh. I trust Trump and Bessent and Rubio implicitly. They have fooled me more than once here.

Sometimes you screw the enemy best by giving them what they want good and hard.

Posted by: The Whine Guy at April 23, 2026 06:34 PM (vOtXJ)

117 111 Only an idiot would lend money to an african country.
Posted by: Europeans 1860-1910 at April 23, 2026 06:31 PM (sDJiP)

But the Nigerian prince emails are surely on the up and up. I doubt anyone would just get on the Internet and lie like that.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 23, 2026 06:34 PM (5NDL0)

118 I think I speak for the tens of millions of students who were forced to read "Heart of Darkness," and write a long damn essay about it, when I state that 'yeah, Africa sucks.'

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:35 PM (N8ZBc)

119 Name: GANNON KEN VAN DYKE

That's quite a return on investment.
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 23, 2026 06:09 PM (CNl8/)

If that was my full name and I was a special forces dude, I'd go by Gandalf Van Dyke.

Posted by: Nelly at April 23, 2026 06:35 PM (6+ehB)

120 *does legal name change*

*takes out billions in risky loans*

Posted by: Miklo Xi at April 23, 2026 06:37 PM (wyznS)

121 Nixon and Kissinger established relations with China as a tactic to keep them from the USSR during the Cold War. A lot of people believe in hindsight that was a mistake.

A debate that never ends.
Posted by: JackStraw
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People that didn't live it don't conceive how much and big of an asshole Russia was and what a threat China was becoming.

With teeny Europe in the way they would have controlled land from the Pacific to the Atlantic.

not picking a side in the debate

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 23, 2026 06:37 PM (LA6Ib)

122 That has gon on since the 60s with Vietnam then beyond

Posted by: Skip at April 23, 2026 06:38 PM (Ia/+0)

123 The probe unfolded after a formal complaint was filed against Julia Varvaro, 29, the DHS deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism, the Daily Mail first reported.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2026 06:30 PM (NtVYv)

Compare and contrast:

https://tinyurl.com/ukn59cm2

https://tinyurl.com/52jfz8up

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 23, 2026 06:38 PM (1Ff7Z)

124 Only an idiot would lend money to an african country.
Posted by: Europeans 1860-1910

Only an idiot would go to China.

Posted by: Spock at April 23, 2026 06:39 PM (W5mpo)

125 I think I speak for the tens of millions of students who were forced to read "Heart of Darkness," and write a long damn essay about it, when I state that 'yeah, Africa sucks.'
Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:35 PM (N8ZBc)

Correct. Like the commies in China never read my long, boring, overwrought tome to white guilt and european greed. If anything, it would help them fall asleep and warn them to maybe avoid the place.

Posted by: Zombie Joseph Conrad, Helping People Fall Asleep Since 1899 at April 23, 2026 06:39 PM (sDJiP)

126 "long, boring, overwrought tome"

It's actually kinda short, like a novella. It just seems really long.

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:41 PM (N8ZBc)

127 Besides "Empire of Dust," I recommend the movies of Senegalese filmmaker Ousmane Sembene to demonstrate the hopelessness of "fixing things in Africa." It can't be done. Don't try.
Posted by: gp at April

Mugabe and the White Farmer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 23, 2026 06:41 PM (YZ0Fo)

128 It's actually kinda short, like a novella. It just seems really long.
Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:41 PM (N8ZBc)

That's what I noticed. Kid has a copy from school. Pretty thin book.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 23, 2026 06:42 PM (1Ff7Z)

129 Refugee who fled Vietnam at 4, grew up in Niger, went from enlisted sailor to Annapolis graduate, led the diving team that recovered the body of JFK Jr., combat veteran with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

-
Now Acting Naval Secretary.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at April 23, 2026 06:43 PM (ndZc7)

130 Nixon and Kissinger established relations with China as a tactic to keep them from the USSR during the Cold War. A lot of people believe in hindsight that was a mistake.

A debate that never ends.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 23, 2026 06:33 PM (viF8m)

------------

Even Hugh Hewitt -- a squish "center-right" conservative who worked for Nixon (researching for books) after the latter's exile to San Clemente -- has claimed in hindsight that it was a mistake to believe that "free trade" with Chy-na would turn them into capitalist allies.

But the idea to try and separate the Commie empires of China and the Soviet Union at the time was a worthwhile objective (hell, even one I shared as a mere teenage idiot) ...

Posted by: ShainS at April 23, 2026 06:43 PM (teZkF)

131 Maybe Trump is going to make a deal that curtails the "petro-yuan" that China is cooking up to displace the "petro-dollar".

Posted by: Axeman at April 23, 2026 06:44 PM (Fi81e)

132 Maybe Xi wants the same $25 billion Iran asked for, and maybe he's promising to get Hormuz opened in return.

Or not. Maybe he just wants $25 billion. I could understand that, I guess. What Xi doesn't know is that he has to open a hospice facility to get money from the Congress.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 23, 2026 06:44 PM (qvDSc)

133 "Mugabe and the White African" (2009) Added to my list, thanks!
dailymotion.com/video/x9nqudu

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:44 PM (N8ZBc)

134 "People that didn't live it don't conceive how much and big of an asshole Russia was and what a threat China was becoming."

The moment Soviet vanguards came across 2-ply toilet paper that wasn't measured in grit the entire advance would bog down. Anyone who managed to get through that trap would surrender to Ronald McDonald. As for China, ask Vietnam how tough they were.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at April 23, 2026 06:45 PM (W5mpo)

135 It’s not going to be a freebie with no strings attached is what I’m thinking
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Where Are My Keto Cheetos at April 23, 2026 05:57 PM (REq0p)

Agreed. There will be some quid for the quo. Trump wrote a book.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 23, 2026 06:45 PM (utfVc)

136 Damn Islamic monkeys!

US Sailor Attacked By Monkey In Thailand While Preparing For Minesweeping Mission In Strait Of Hormuz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at April 23, 2026 06:46 PM (ndZc7)

137 136 I hope they got tested for monkeypox /sarc kinda sorta

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:47 PM (Q0yOR)

138 *does legal name change*

*takes out billions in risky loans*

Posted by: Miklo Xi at April 23, 2026 06:37 PM (wyznS)

------------

*promises high-speed train to Chy-na*

*runs for and is elected Governor of Califzuela*

Posted by: ShainS at April 23, 2026 06:47 PM (teZkF)

139 US Sailor Attacked By Monkey In Thailand While Preparing For Minesweeping Mission In Strait Of Hormuz
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Happens here every morning.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at April 23, 2026 06:47 PM (W5mpo)

140 nood

Posted by: gp at April 23, 2026 06:48 PM (N8ZBc)

141 Mugabe probably ate white Africans.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 23, 2026 06:48 PM (4ZxBh)

142 >>Or not. Maybe he just wants $25 billion. I could understand that, I guess. What Xi doesn't know is that he has to open a hospice facility to get money from the Congress.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
--

Many China whores working congress behind
the scenes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 23, 2026 06:50 PM (LA6Ib)

143 Damn Islamic monkeys!

US Sailor Attacked By Monkey In Thailand While Preparing For Minesweeping Mission In Strait Of Hormuz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy at April 23, 2026 06:46 PM (ndZc7)

-------------

The monkey was last overheard screaming "Allahu Admiral Ackbar!"

Posted by: ShainS at April 23, 2026 06:50 PM (teZkF)

144 >>But the idea to try and separate the Commie empires of China and the Soviet Union at the time was a worthwhile objective (hell, even one I shared as a mere teenage idiot) ...

I've never thought it was a bad idea. The idea of a strong USSR/China axis would have been really dangerous. Not always great choices.

As noted above Clinton took it too far with the WTO. That was a mistake.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 23, 2026 06:50 PM (viF8m)

145 110 Oh great. Thanks for that earworm.

Posted by: turambar at April 23, 2026 06:27 PM (Q0yOR)
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1-877-KARS4KIDS?
Posted by: Axeman at April 23, 2026 06:29 PM (Fi81e)

I am the eye in the sky

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 23, 2026 06:31 PM (NtVYv)

877-CASH-NOW...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 23, 2026 06:52 PM (ynpvh)

146 135 It’s not going to be a freebie with no strings attached is what I’m thinking
...
Agreed. There will be some quid for the quo. Trump wrote a book.

Hormuz mines could be clear'd in a fortnight if needed and that would secure Taiwan's security for the next 50 years, but a demonstration of that isn't called for at present.

IRG holds their own people as human shields and the rest of the world as hostage -- and china know's it, and is clear for those with eyes who do not refuse to see.

https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-signedSCHWARTZWALD
End Lib Strategic Insanity (and their Civilization) FOREVER!

IRG De-bank'd
RoadWarrior/Kharg interdicted
FREEPORT/CUBA -- replacing KHARG forever.

LET'S GO BRANDON!
https://iran.liveuamap.com/

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at April 23, 2026 06:53 PM (j67Wk)

147 Compare and contrast:

https://tinyurl.com/ukn59cm2

https://tinyurl.com/52jfz8up
Posted by: OrangeEnt

I can get weather forecasts from better mamacitas de tiempo mexicanas

Posted by: El Mikloso at April 23, 2026 06:56 PM (wyznS)

148 Mugabe probably ate white Africans.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

I preferred the dark meat

Posted by: Idi Amin Dada at April 23, 2026 06:58 PM (wyznS)

149 China demands things if country cannot pay, like putting in a military base. By giving IMF money, China does not get a base.

Posted by: MikeN at April 23, 2026 06:58 PM (X1GLG)

150
China demands things if country cannot pay, like putting in a military base. By giving IMF money, China does not get a base.
Posted by: MikeN

From whom do you acquire such pathetic "Don't throw them in the briar patch!" talking points when "May I suggest that you use your night stick, officer?" is the proper response?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 23, 2026 07:16 PM (xG4kz)

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China Made a Ton of Risky Loans to Third-World Nations to Bring Them Under Its Sphere of Influence. Now Those Loans are Turning Bad.
China Wants the US to Bail It Out.