The Morning Rant: Iran Is Not Of The West

The gulf between East and West is massive, and the best way to see it is to negotiate. Westerners, animated by 2,500 years of Western culture -- based on empiricism and truth and morality -- make implicit assumptions about the motives of the people across the table: that they are motivated by the same goals...an honest and fair agreement that recognizes the needs of both parties.

And those are laughable from the perspective of the rest of the world. Lying, cheating, outright stealing is part of the game, and they simply take advantage of the morality of Western culture to get what they want, and be damned with the other parties to the agreement.

Iran has never and will never negotiate in good faith. Their goals will never change, and until those goals are seen as 100% unobtainable, they will continue along the same path. And what are those goals? Regional hegemony. A nuclear arsenal. The destruction of Israel. The destruction of America. How can honest negotiation proceed if those goals are immutable?

Vance says "ceasefires are always messy" and U.S. "never indicated" Lebanon would be included in deal with Iran

The U.S. never promised Lebanon would be included in the ceasefire agreement, Vance said, despite Iran's claims it was, chalking that up to a "reasonable misunderstanding" between the parties.
Vance said he's not confident in how well Ghalibaf understands English, "because there are things that he said, frankly, that didn't make sense in the context of negotiations that we've had."
On Wednesday, the Iranian Parliament speaker claimed the U.S. is violating three parts of a ceasefire deal, citing continued fire in Lebanon, a drone allegedly entering Iranian airspace and a "denial of Iran's right to enrich uranium." Vance said that if Ghalibaf only has three points of disagreement, there must be quite a lot of agreement.

It's cute that the Vice President is scrambling around for excuses for the Iranian negotiator. He's a commercial pilot, and the universal language of flying is English. But even if his command of the language is shaky, the difference between including Lebanon and not including Lebanon in the ceasefire is clear and unambiguous.

What is actually going on is murky, but it is entirely possible that Ghalibaf does not have overall authority, or he is simply lying and Iran had no intention of opening Hormuz. Or both. And the IRGC and the Iranian government are not one and the same, unlike Western countries with militaries that answer to civilian leadership.

That is why the only clear path to a peaceful Iran is the total destruction of their military capacity, and the decapitation of the IRGC down to the squad level. Negotiation will never change the savage focus of the Mullahs and the IRGC, and to assume that there are "moderate" factions within Iran that can take control is just silly. Absent a successful revolution and the ascension of Pahlavi or another anti-Mullah figure to a position of authority, Iran will not change.

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Not the Blade

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 09, 2026 11:01 AM (2UnvF)

2 Called em

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 09, 2026 11:01 AM (2UnvF)

3 Don't hesitate, Mr. Trump. "You broke the ceasefire. Here's what I promised." BOOM!!!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:02 AM (wzUl9)

4 his command of the language is shaky

Yknow who else was shaky?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little at April 09, 2026 11:02 AM (Kt19C)

5 One week being smoke free and I haven't climbed the clock tower with a deer rifle. Yet.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 09, 2026 11:03 AM (2UnvF)

6 We're f***ed.

Posted by: Won the battle (Iran), lost the war (US) at April 09, 2026 11:03 AM (qUkBO)

7 Iran has never and will never negotiate in good faith. Their goals will never change, and until those goals are seen as 100% unobtainable, they will continue along the same path. And what are those goals? Regional hegemony. A nuclear arsenal. The destruction of Israel. The destruction of America. How can honest negotiation proceed if those goals are immutable?

I'm no quite as gloomy as all this. I think young Iranians have had more than enough of this nonsense, possibly excepting regional hegemony. The mullahs can't fill the mosques, while the young'uns want to have a taste of the good life they see all the time on the Intertubes.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:03 AM (Riz8t)

8 I don't disagree - and when Iran fails to live up to the ceasefire - we will have gleaned additional intelligence to go in and do more damage.

The best thing about this? It has shown the TDS cadre is completely nuts, essentially eliminating anyone to take anything they say about Iran seriously.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 09, 2026 11:03 AM (GZYu7)

9 It's cute that the Vice President is scrambling around for excuses for the Iranian negotiator.

Reportedly, the Pakistanis screwed up (or altered) a proposal exchange so that the US accepted something which the Iranians never proposed. Reportedly.

It may be that the VP is looking for a way to not say that the Pakistanis are either incompetent (probably), dishonest (almost certainly), or both.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:04 AM (ExV1e)

10 And what are those goals? Regional hegemony. A nuclear arsenal. The destruction of Israel. The destruction of America.

Starting a nuclear holocaust so the Twelfth Iman will come back.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2026 11:04 AM (n1OCj)

11 We're negotiating with the remnants of the IRGC. Not with the turban and robed wearing mullahs.

The IRGC has no interest with any sort of ceasefire, let along peace.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2026 11:04 AM (AkEZC)

12 I'm no quite as gloomy as all this. I think young Iranians have had more than enough of this nonsense, possibly excepting regional hegemony. The mullahs can't fill the mosques, while the young'uns want to have a taste of the good life they see all the time on the Intertubes.

50 years of tyranny by a bunch of homicidal lunatics is not an easy sell.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

13 Iran Is Not Of The West

Thinking Izlam should be not of this earth.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Leaving some wrigley room at April 09, 2026 11:04 AM (C2uPD)

14 In fact, I am not sure the ceasefire isn't being done explicitly to start to rip apart the fault lines developing in Iran.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 09, 2026 11:05 AM (GZYu7)

15 Westerners, animated by 2,500 years of Western culture -- based on empiricism and truth and morality -- make implicit assumptions about the motives of the people across the table: that they are motivated by the same goals...an honest and fair agreement that recognizes the needs of both parties.

Is this true in 2026? Consider our interactions with Europe, or blue states, before you answer.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:05 AM (ExV1e)

16 Which side of the toggle switch is the left on today?

- TACO Trump must nuke Iran!
- Madman Trump is going to start a nuclear war!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 09, 2026 11:05 AM (HXT0k)

17 I would have hoped Trump would know better than to believe anything Iran says. Maybe he understands. Maybe this ceasefire is for show.

Who knows?

Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (z0fc5)

18 Negotiation will never change the savage focus of the Mullahs and the IRGC, and to assume that there are "moderate" factions within Iran that can take control is just silly. Absent a successful revolution and the ascension of Pahlavi or another anti-Mullah figure to a position of authority, Iran will not change.
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Nobody expects them to change. No one thinks "moderates" exists. And their military capacity has been destroyed about down to the squad level, if Raisin' Caine can be believed.

Where did you get all this stuff about moderates, and negotiation expected to change the savage focus of the mullahs? If someone in the administration used those words, they are retards.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (YKKru)

19 The IRGC has no interest with any sort of ceasefire, let along peace.

The IRGC is interested in power and money. They aren't the same loons as the mullahs and their wells. If they think they're going to lose that money and power, they'll become more pliable.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)

20 I just got an email saying that I'm the new Supreme Leader of Iran. Could this be a scam?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (+HNx/)

21 I'm still waiting on someone to tell me what Iran is using to "close" the strait of Hormuz and if they're using the threat of shore-based attacks, why we didn't delete those from existence three weeks ago.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (oqH4h)

22 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (HUH8y)

23 5 One week being smoke free and I haven't climbed the clock tower with a deer rifle. Yet.
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Can you drink a cup of coffee and not jones for a cigarette yet?

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:07 AM (n17eQ)

24 On Wednesday, the Iranian Parliament speaker claimed the U.S. is violating three parts of a ceasefire deal, citing continued fire in Lebanon, a drone allegedly entering Iranian airspace and a "denial of Iran's right to enrich uranium."

Time to open some canned sunshine.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:07 AM (AnEIe)

25 In fact, I am not sure the ceasefire isn't being done explicitly to start to rip apart the fault lines developing in Iran.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 09, 2026 11:05 AM (GZYu7)

Tousi seems to think it is doing so, intentionally or not.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:08 AM (ExV1e)

26 Won't someone get me out of this well?

Posted by: Imam The Twelth at April 09, 2026 11:08 AM (oftw2)

27 "In fact, I am not sure the ceasefire isn't being done explicitly to start to rip apart the fault lines developing in Iran." - Black JEM

Could definitely be one of the motivations.

"Calming the markets" is one reasonable and sensible bit of speculation as well. Problem there is that the ceasefire's most serious element - opening the Strait essentially a pre-condition to everything else - has already shown that Iran is not engaging seriously. Even if they have stopped rocket fire towards Israel.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 09, 2026 11:08 AM (U/Byj)

28 The most ineresting part of Iran claiming bombing Hezbollah is a violation of the ceasefire between the US/Israel and Iran is that Iran is implicitly admitting that Hezbollah is Iran.

No more evasion and lies. Hezbollah isn't a proxy of Iran, it's just another division of Iran's Islamist army.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 11:09 AM (P8t+z)

29 I would have hoped Trump would know better than to believe anything Iran says. Maybe he understands. Maybe this ceasefire is for show.

Who knows?

I'm going to go out on a limb, and suggest that naivete and a belief in the inherent selflessness of one's fellow man are not characteristics of a successful NYC builder.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

30 what are those goals? Regional hegemony. A nuclear arsenal. The destruction of Israel. The destruction of America.

Carrots in chili.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little at April 09, 2026 11:09 AM (Kt19C)

31 I want to see Persian cleavage making a comeback.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2026 11:09 AM (g8Ew8)

32 17 I would have hoped Trump would know better than to believe anything Iran says. Maybe he understands. Maybe this ceasefire is for show.

Who knows?
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Trump knows. Shoosh. He had to deal with the Manhattans for how long? Manhattans are as nasty and two-faced as the Mullahs.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:09 AM (n17eQ)

33 I'm still waiting on someone to tell me what Iran is using to "close" the strait of Hormuz and if they're using the threat of shore-based attacks, why we didn't delete those from existence three weeks ago.
Posted by: ballistic

Shipping companies are extremely risk adverse. No one wants a sunk & leaking oil tanker in the Strait. All it takes is one rocket.
So while one IRGC member still breathes, they have the upper hand.

Simple solution is to end all of them.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:10 AM (AnEIe)

34 I'm still waiting on someone to tell me what Iran is using to "close" the strait of Hormuz and if they're using the threat of shore-based attacks, why we didn't delete those from existence three weeks ago.
Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (oqH4h)

Most phoned in bomb threats are hoaxes. And they still accomplish the disruption sought.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:10 AM (ExV1e)

35 I just got an email saying that I'm the new Supreme Leader of Iran. Could this be a scam?

It's a scam. I accepted the position yesterday.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:10 AM (Riz8t)

36 The mullahs can't fill the mosques, while the young'uns want to have a taste of the good life they see all the time on the Intertubes.

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Other than drinking( legally) there’s plenty of good life. It’s not USSR in 1952. Take a perusal on YouTube for “life on the street” videos of Iran. It’s a modern country with all the shit we have here. And the majority of women don’t wear hijabs despite what we’ve been led to believe.

I’m not supporting the mullahs or anything. But at the same time the image a lot of people have of Iran right now is really out of date.

If there a 25 year old I do t know if you’re going to risk your life or your economic future to revolt just so you can watch porn and drink without hiding it.

Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:10 AM (z0fc5)

37 I just got an email saying that I'm the new Supreme Leader of Iran. Could this be a scam?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 09, 2026

***
Not exactly a safe sort of job right now. Don't tell anybody else just yet.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:11 AM (wzUl9)

38 11am ish

CNN - Israel orders evacuations for areas in Southern Beirut. Lol. OH NOES!! Israel is facing international criticism INCLUDING MACRON!

MS Now - Trump - 'Nato was not there.' Their 'military analyst' is concerned!!

CBC - 200 dead in Israel strikes

FoxNews - 8 vessels have crossed Strait since ceasefire. 6 Bulk Carriers. 2 Oil Tankers.

From GatewayPundit yesterday

BOMBSHELL: Trump Eyes Massive Punishment for Backstabbing NATO Allies Who Abandoned America During Iran War – Troops to Be Shifted from France, Spain, and Italy – While Others Rewarded

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 09, 2026 11:11 AM (Sco7b)

39 I am hoping Israel has a few more surprises for the Mullahs that will help Trump bring them to ruin.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 09, 2026 11:11 AM (IifOV)

40 "Calming the markets" is one reasonable and sensible bit of speculation as well. Problem there is that the ceasefire's most serious element - opening the Strait essentially a pre-condition to everything else - has already shown that Iran is not engaging seriously. Even if they have stopped rocket fire towards Israel.
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You give them a Time Out just to see where they move things. This is how you play Whack a Mole.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:11 AM (n17eQ)

41 I just got an email saying that I'm the new Supreme Leader of Iran. Could this be a scam?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (+HNx/)

Absolutely not. Go get 'em, Tiger!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2026 11:12 AM (g8Ew8)

42 Worst thing about the current situation is that this is going on before the midterms.

Posted by: tubal at April 09, 2026 11:12 AM (pDt9x)

43 If someone in the administration used those words, they are retards.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:06 AM (YKKru)

They have talked about the emergence of moderates. I think Rubio was the last person I noticed...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (n9ltV)

44 On Wednesday, the Iranian Parliament speaker claimed the U.S. is violating three parts of a ceasefire deal, citing continued fire in Lebanon, a drone allegedly entering Iranian airspace and a "denial of Iran's right to enrich uranium."

Time to open some canned sunshine.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:07 AM (AnEIe)

No shit man.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (snZF9)

45 entirely possible that Ghalibaf does not have overall authority"

Possible? You misspelled "obviously"

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (XuXeR)

46 While the left is obsessed with finding new ways to hate Trump, and will only describe every event in Iran as a failure, the reality is much different.

Each of the on-again, off-again threats and retractions are carefully mapping out the real power in Iran.

1- Kill the leaders.
2- Find out who's willing to talk
3- force them to act and prove it
4- if no power/proof, return to 1

We have proven that the last 20 years of negotiations with Iran have not been with those actually with the power.

This is like a geopolitical version of Mel Gibson in "Payback."
We're going to keep killing until we get to the person who can make the decisions.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (HXT0k)

47 BOMBSHELL: Trump Eyes Massive Punishment for Backstabbing NATO Allies Who Abandoned America During Iran War – Troops to Be Shifted from France, Spain, and Italy – While Others Rewarded

Unfortunately, the Russkis would still have to go through the countries where our troops are redeployed to get to old Europe, so it won't really change much. I suppose the Poles would like to have them, but the way things are going, they might be able to kick Russia's ass all by themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (Riz8t)

48 You don't play at war. I would be unambiguously surprised and disappointed if Trump has made the mistake of doing so.

That said I have been clear all along that we must wait until ALL the smoke clears before knowing for sure what has happened. That timeframe is in May because it doesn't make sense to me that he would want this dragging on into the 250 which would become very subdued indeed.

If you watch Trump long enough you know that he plays possum and dead better than anyone you have ever seen. The moment you think they "got him" is when he suddenly teleports and reappears behind them like nothing happened. They got his ass over a loaded barrel on an uneven playing field with covid but this one is his doing.

That said I still question whether Trump got verifiable wind that Iran was planning something of an op with their friends in the Uniparty (as China did with covid) and he decided to fuck it and flip the game board over. That is still a possibility to me but we will really have to wait and see.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (8X0wm)

49 For all I know, I think President Trump gets Iran and Islam will never compromise their agenda. They might give up a little until they are back in charge.

Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (HUH8y)

50 The Iranians know that all they have to do is get another Democrat elected President in 2028 and in the meantime turn the House and Senate Democrat. They are working and spending money feverishly to see that this happens. They calculate that they can outlast any Republican administration in the process.

Posted by: JTSmith at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (YYotJ)

51 I'M THE NEW SUPREME LEADER OF IRAN!

I'M THE NEW SUPREME LEADER OF IRAN!

I'M THE NEW SU

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (AnEIe)

52 I confess my ignorance up front on this...

We've been told Iran has no remaining navy. Why doesn't the US line the strait with US warships and f*ck up anyone who tries to stop any ship? There must be reasons why we're not doing this, right?

Posted by: 496 at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (WeJ8p)

53 On Wednesday, the Iranian Parliament speaker claimed the U.S. is violating three parts of a ceasefire deal, citing continued fire in Lebanon, a drone allegedly entering Iranian airspace and a "denial of Iran's right to enrich uranium."

Time to open some canned sunshine.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026

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Aka fusion fire!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (wzUl9)

54 > I'm still waiting on someone to tell me what Iran is using to "close" the strait of Hormuz and if they're using the threat of shore-based attacks, why we didn't delete those from existence three weeks ago.
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Threats and fear, mostly. Crews made up of young men from the Pacific Rim and some other 3rd world shit holes are afraid. They refuse to board, and operate ships in the area. No crew, no shipping.

Insurance premiums are through the roof. Regardless what Trump has promised, shipping companies aren't going to take the risk of losing a billion dollar ship.

The IRGC has boats, drones and anti-ship missiles staged in and around Hormuz. They've mined at least some of the area too. Again... risks the shipping companies won't take and neither will the crews.

The Hormuz Strait isn't "closed." It's a contested war zone that some shippers, crews and insurances companies would rather not deal with. Despite what Iran or the US says.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (AkEZC)

55 Sooner or later, the world will understand that it is Islam that is our biggest problem...

Before global communication, it was easy for islam to hide in the shadows, but now they are being seen as the non-religious, controlling cult that they are.

Oh, and Fuck mohammad!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (dmDsy)

56 They have talked about the emergence of moderates. I think Rubio was the last person I noticed...

The MFM is pushing the story that Vance was not onboard with this war. I'm sure they have no ulterior motive.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:15 AM (Riz8t)

57 Speaking of people who see no fault in themselves....

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:15 AM (8X0wm)

58 The Daily Beast: Trump Makes Unhinged War Threat in Wild Midnight Meltdown. In an incendiary Truth Social post published just before midnight on Wednesday, Trump began by announcing that all U.S. service members currently in the Middle East will remain there until a “real agreement” with Iran is reached.

"...for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded Enemy. It is exhausting to constantly have to deal with a person who cannot say or write a single thing without declaring their greatness or that they've already won.

"We must destroy them.. but just so you know we've already mostly destroyed them!"

Sundowning combined with Israel not letting Trump off the hook. They’ll keep pushing for war, as it’s what that want.

“It was agreed, a long time ago, and despite all of the fake rhetoric to the contrary - NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS

The only reason we're talking about this is because YOU said you were going to nuke Iran with a B52 and now the media and public need to discern what that means.

Complaining about a 'REAL AGREEMENT' when Iran wasn't the one that violated it lol. What a joke.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2026 11:15 AM (JCZqz)

59 close" the strait of Hormuz"

No offense, but that's getting tiresome. It's a bit of red herring, used to generate headlines and click bait.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:15 AM (XuXeR)

60 BOMBSHELL: Trump Eyes Massive Punishment for Backstabbing NATO Allies Who Abandoned America During Iran War – Troops to Be Shifted from France, Spain, and Italy

No Crusades 2.0 when the goatfuckers start stretching.

Fight them on your own.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:16 AM (AnEIe)

61 If you watch Trump long enough you know that he plays possum and dead better than anyone you have ever seen. The moment you think they "got him" is when he suddenly teleports and reappears behind them like nothing happened. . . .

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026

***
Trump as an X-Man. "BAMF!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (wzUl9)

62 The IRGC has boats, drones and anti-ship missiles staged in and around Hormuz. They've mined at least some of the area too. Again... risks the shipping companies won't take and neither will the crews.

The Hormuz Strait isn't "closed." It's a contested war zone that some shippers, crews and insurances companies would rather not deal with. Despite what Iran or the US says.

I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

63 There must be reasons why we're not doing this, right?"

Yep. It's choking China. $100 bbl makes Xi a very sad boy

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (XuXeR)

64 Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (AkEZC)

Excellent synopsis.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (n9ltV)

65 50 For all I know, I think President Trump gets Iran and Islam will never compromise their agenda. They might give up a little until they are back in charge.
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You're missing that Trump has united the Arabs. This is a real Arab uprising/no vote for Persia.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (n17eQ)

66 Newsom’s Wife: San Quentin Convicts’ Crimes Were ‘Probably Accidents’

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Yeah, Charlie Manson was just a butterfingers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:18 AM (ndZc7)

67 Shipping companies are extremely risk adverse. No one wants a sunk & leaking oil tanker in the Strait. All it takes is one rocket.
So while one IRGC member still breathes, they have the upper hand.

Simple solution is to end all of them.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:10 AM (AnEIe)
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I can tell the world that I'm currently banging Sydney Sweeney like a screen door in a hurricane but that doesn't make it true or even remotely plausible.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:18 AM (oqH4h)

68 That is why the only clear path to a peaceful Iran is the total destruction of their military capacity, and the decapitation of the IRGC down to the squad level. Negotiation will never change the savage focus of the Mullahs and the IRGC, and to assume that there are "moderate" factions within Iran that can take control is just silly. Absent a successful revolution and the ascension of Pahlavi or another anti-Mullah figure to a position of authority, Iran will not change.

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It may yet come to be that they are destroyed utterly. I suspect that there is a loss of control, and the "leaders" are Larping. If that is the case, it is probably likely that oil can move, although at risk initially. It will be a job of locating and destroying the local capability to launch. Trump doesn't want to be the one doing that. He wants Europe to take some viagra and get to work securing its own future. Europe doesn't want to do that and thinks that if it waits long enough the US will do it, because US politics will motivate Trump to act sooner or later. I think the broken ceasefire gives Trump more room to move militarily, but he'd rather not.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:18 AM (anL5R)

69 IRGC has boats, drones and anti-ship missiles staged in and around Hormuz. "

An interesting assertion. Evidence?

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:18 AM (XuXeR)

70 You're missing that Trump has united the Arabs. This is a real Arab uprising/no vote for Persia.

Ah, Donald of Arabia!

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Riz8t)

71 Pot, meet kettle.

New York Post
@nypost
Former top Biden aide urges Va. Gov. Abigail Spanberger to stop using his playbook: 'Come out of her Biden bunker' [and debate her horrific redistricting scheme].

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Biden can always serve as a bad example.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:18 AM (ndZc7)

72 Trump as an X-Man. "BAMF!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (wzUl9)

I was thinking Raiden. The X-Men are a stand-in for homosexuality. NTTAWWT

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:19 AM (8X0wm)

73 Knowing that the Iran regime isn't planning to abandon any of it's goals, I can only hope that this ceasefire was set up only to give the US a chance to replenish combat capability and move some additional units into or around the theater. Over one month of sustained combat ops puts a strain on aircraft, ships, and men, so a respite may have been needed. We don't have the resources we had during Vietnam when carriers spent about 30 days on the line before heading to the Philippines for massive drinking..... I mean, replenishment. I imagine the Air Force has similar strain generating missions for several weeks.

But if the administration is expecting the Iranians to negotiate then Heaven help us.

Posted by: George V at April 09, 2026 11:19 AM (HUbHH)

74
Bullshit.

People might press on details, and a few scattered shots will always be fired.

But from the beginning of the enlightenment until the last fifty years, ceasefires meant firing ceased, once everyone got the news.

Because that's how ceasefires work. It's right in the name.

It's not messy. It's simple and straightforward. Except if you're working with Muslims. And then it's meaningless, because they're pre-enlightenment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 11:19 AM (BI5O2)

75 If you watch Trump long enough you know that he plays possum and dead better than anyone you have ever seen. The moment you think they "got him" is when he suddenly teleports and reappears behind them like nothing happened. . . .

Omae wa mou shindeiru

Press Retard: Nani!?!?

Posted by: Donaldu Trumpu at April 09, 2026 11:20 AM (JCZqz)

76 They're going to have to put it to a tune if we're to remember MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+. You know, like the ABC song.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:20 AM (ndZc7)

77 > Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (AkEZC)

Excellent synopsis.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (n9ltV)
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Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2026 11:20 AM (AkEZC)

78 59 The Daily Beast: Trump Makes Unhinged War Threat in Wild Midnight Meltdown. In an incendiary Truth Social post published just before midnight on Wednesday, Trump began by announcing that all U.S. service members currently in the Middle East will remain there until a “real agreement” with Iran is reached

And that is unhinged how ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 11:21 AM (FtULh)

79 They have talked about the emergence of moderates. I think Rubio was the last person I noticed...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (n9ltV)
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I'll take your word, but I am surprised. From what I heard yesterday they are eyes-wide-open on this thing, with the only caveat being "what we hear privately from the Iranian side is very different from what they tell the media publicly". Vance may not be trustworthy but he quotes Trump repeatedly saying "this is fragile", "we will see", and "the target list hasn't gone anywhere".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:21 AM (4tMC7)

80 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)
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I think we have pretty much already said that.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 09, 2026 11:21 AM (GZYu7)

81 Omae wa mou shindeiru

Owa Tagu Siam

Posted by: Boy Scout camp at April 09, 2026 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

82 FWIW, it will take time to return ships to those routes. There aren't hundreds of empty ships riding at anchor...

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:22 AM (XuXeR)

83 Trump as an X-Man. "BAMF!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026
*
I was thinking Raiden. The X-Men are a stand-in for homosexuality. NTTAWWT
Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026

***
When did this idea start?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)

84 We've been through this ceasefire/negotiate routine before.

Didn't work, nor will it this time I'm afraid. Just a way to give up.

Posted by: javems at April 09, 2026 11:22 AM (zFsEm)

85 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)
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I think we have pretty much already said that.

Then we should stop trying to fix the problem and basing our negotiations on doing so.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Riz8t)

86 The IRGC has boats, drones and anti-ship missiles staged in and around Hormuz. They've mined at least some of the area too. Again... risks the shipping companies won't take and neither will the crews.
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If that is in fact true, that brings us to the second part of my question that is still unanswered. If these capabilities still exist, why didn't we turn them into dust in one of the 17,000 bombing sorties we flew over the last month? We surely knew that the strait has always been a critical point of contention, and surely we are aware of the IRGC's capabilities in this regard.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (oqH4h)

87 Owa Tagu Siam"

Bang tim ow?

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (XuXeR)

88 Newsom’s Wife: San Quentin Convicts’ Crimes Were ‘Probably Accidents’
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Yeah, Charlie Manson was just a butterfingers.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah! I'm an innocent victim of circumstance! Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Posted by: Scott "Curly" Peterson at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (JCZqz)

89 And that is unhinged how ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 11:21 AM (FtULh)

They use unhinged and meltdown for anything they don't want their sheep to accidentally read. Not just Trump but anyone.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (8X0wm)

90 > IRGC has boats, drones and anti-ship missiles staged in and around Hormuz. "

An interesting assertion. Evidence?
Posted by: man
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3 Mar, 2026 - 2:59
Defense News Army 2026
Iran has built a layered anti-access strategy centered on mines, submarines, anti-ship missiles, swarm craft, and air defenses to complicate any U.S. campaign in the Strait of Hormuz and surrounding waters. The design is less about decisive victory and more about stretching U.S. missile defenses, logistics, and political tolerance long enough to shape escalation on Tehran’s terms.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (AkEZC)

91 If that is in fact true"

Shh. Just trust the news.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (XuXeR)

92 It's cute that the Vice President is scrambling around for excuses for the Iranian negotiator.

Reportedly, the Pakistanis screwed up (or altered) a proposal exchange so that the US accepted something which the Iranians never proposed. Reportedly.

It may be that the VP is looking for a way to not say that the Pakistanis are either incompetent (probably), dishonest (almost certainly), or both.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:04 AM (ExV1e)

Pakistan is the most radical (major) islamic nation outside of Iran. Maybe even more so in some ways.

They are kinda sorta held in check by India and China(differently and for different reasons).

The Pakis may not be nutty apocalypse fans like the Ickis(hey, it fits!), but -

to expect them to be good faith go-betweens or negotiators is stupid.

Islam and moslems come first and foremost.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (iJfKG)

93 If that is in fact true, that brings us to the second part of my question that is still unanswered. If these capabilities still exist, why didn't we turn them into dust in one of the 17,000 bombing sorties we flew over the last month? We surely knew that the strait has always been a critical point of contention, and surely we are aware of the IRGC's capabilities in this regard.

Because they don't necessarily put all their assets in big open yards, with signs saying "Bomb here".

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)

94 KTLA
@KTLA
In a 60 Minutes report, officials said they now believe the rail line linking L.A. and San Francisco could ultimately cost about $126 billion, more than triple the original price tag approved by voters.

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In fairness, Newsom's position has always been f*ck the voters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (ndZc7)

95 Matserbatin Peety seems to be a masterbatin retard.

Posted by: GigantorX at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (b6zgo)

96 You surely don't realize this, but in the context of war, you don't want to play Whack a Mole. That's the whole point of the analogy: it's a game that gets you nowhere. It's used to describe a situation where no matter what you do, there's always going to be another mole popping up

Ironically, you're describing why the U.S. will not achieve a total victory in this war.
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We were never interested in occupying Iran. Thus, we are shaping a battlefield of public opinion (both Iran and World) while gut punching China. Its all about taking Chy Na money out of American politics. See the gimps of California, Illinois and NYC. He's already done this in Venezuela and Cuber.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:25 AM (n17eQ)

97 Everything here that we are saying is conditioned by the Media bullshit we are fed. Lies upon lies and obfuscation. We think we know what is going on but don’t, really. Add to that our personal biases and pet prejudices to the mess and we get speculation and subjective points of view from all corners.
We are not the players in this affair, we are exactly like the people in the stands in CBD’s Art Thread offering this morning. Shadowy figures, mouths open wide.

Posted by: tubal at April 09, 2026 11:25 AM (pDt9x)

98 We have absolutely zero fucking idea exactly what is happening with the leadership vacuum in Iran. Our military has a bit more knowledge but even for them it is a bit foggy.

But anyone suggesting Iran is in a good spot is just saying shit for sport. Leadership vacuums are never a good thing, and they can become lethal. Anything we do to stress the system is to our advantage.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 09, 2026 11:25 AM (GZYu7)

99 I'll take your word, but I am surprised. From what I heard yesterday they are eyes-wide-open on this thing, with the only caveat being "what we hear privately from the Iranian side is very different from what they tell the media publicly".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:21 AM (4tMC7)

Check the quotation from Trump.

https://is.gd/1ejpqT

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:26 AM (n9ltV)

100 It's cute that the Vice President is scrambling around for excuses for the Iranian negotiator.

He's definitely not. He said yesterday that the list of demands sent over by Iran appears to have been written by ChatGPT.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:26 AM (2ocoG)

101 Iran has built a layered anti-access strategy centered on mines, submarines, anti-ship missiles, swarm craft, and air defenses to complicate any U.S. campaign in the Strait of Hormuz and surrounding waters. The design is less about decisive victory and more about stretching U.S. missile defenses, logistics, and political tolerance long enough to shape escalation on Tehran’s terms.
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If you told me, two weeks from now that the US has brought in a bunch of mine sweepers and anti sub surface ships along with HK subs in the area, I'd not be surprised. Not a bit.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:26 AM (anL5R)

102 When did this idea start?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 09, 2026 11:22 AM (wzUl9)

I think the beginning. Not kidding.

And in one of the movies I think they even had a kid "coming out" as a "mutant" to his parents. In case you didn't "get it".

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:26 AM (8X0wm)

103 Reports are that the 3 subs were sunk.
The "minelaying" boats are AI generated garbage.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:26 AM (XuXeR)

104 We've been told Iran has no remaining navy. Why doesn't the US line the strait with US warships and f*ck up anyone who tries to stop any ship? There must be reasons why we're not doing this, right?
Posted by: 496 at April 09, 2026 11:14 AM (WeJ8p)

Assume that Iran possesses the ability to perform a mass launch of missiles/drones into the area of the Strait. Why would the US put its ships/sailors in harm's way for the benefit of other countries? Particularly when those other countries are unwilling to do ANYTHING to help out.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (ExV1e)

105 89 And that is unhinged how ?
Posted by: It's me donna

They use unhinged and meltdown for anything they don't want their sheep to accidentally read. Not just Trump but anyone.
Posted by: ...

There really wasn't much...the article basically chopped up his post and repeated it with minimal analysis. One line seemed like it SHOULD have upset the Left more, but they didn't really comment on it:

“In the meantime our great Military is Loading Up and Resting, looking forward, actually, to its next Conquest.”

Lol. Make Imperialism Great Again.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (JCZqz)

106 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

To be honest, I don't think Trump gives a damn about the Hormuz. And I think he realizes that the problem is islam. Perhaps he and Israel are waiting for a gathering of mullahs and military leaders to execute another cluster kill. Let them relax a little. They'll start making mistakes like this again.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (g8Ew8)

107 I think someone is socking Pud-Pullin' Pete... I just can't tell if its supposed to ironic or a legitimate troll attempt....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (dmDsy)

108 NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (IifOV)

109 Newsom’s Wife: San Quentin Convicts’ Crimes Were ‘Probably Accidents’
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Yeah, Charlie Manson was just a butterfingers.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah! I'm an innocent victim of circumstance! Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Posted by: Scott "Curly" Peterson at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (JCZqz)

We should send Newsom's Wife in a golf cart to Iran to negotiate with any remaining Iranians big wigs.

Half an hour later she'll have murdered them all by accident.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (iJfKG)

110 We've never had so much free Press. Hope this goes on for years!

Posted by: The Straights of Hormuz!! at April 09, 2026 11:28 AM (oftw2)

111 He's definitely not. He said yesterday that the list of demands sent over by Iran appears to have been written by ChatGPT.
Posted by: Ian S.

Artificial Intelligence > Inbred Mullah Natural Intelligence

Posted by: Military Moron at April 09, 2026 11:28 AM (JCZqz)

112 And what naval based air defenses?

That's funny right there

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:28 AM (XuXeR)

113 Because they don't necessarily put all their assets in big open yards, with signs saying "Bomb here".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)
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If only the United States military had access to high-tech ISR assets and human intelligence to locate said assets....

If only.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:28 AM (oqH4h)

114 IRGC are not warriors who rose through the ranks. They are bought and paid for regime nepos. All of them must answer for Iran's 50 year crime spree.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 09, 2026 11:29 AM (wBaIH)

115 The IRGC has boats, drones and anti-ship missiles staged in and around Hormuz. They've mined at least some of the area too.
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This is all news to me. Last I heard, their boats are all sunk, their drones and anti-ship missiles are moved well inland or have been destroyed, and no mines have thus-far been found.

Skipping over that sentence, if your point is that shippers are worried about these things because, as you say, Hormuz is an active war zone, then I agree with that much, and I believe Trump's primary goal in negotiating is to take that risk off the table. He wants oil shipped through the straits.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:29 AM (jeqkR)

116 I was thinking Raiden. The X-Men are a stand-in for homosexuality. NTTAWWT
Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:19 AM (8X0wm)

Except Wolverine.
He's Canadian.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 09, 2026 11:29 AM (Sco7b)

117 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.

The one and only reason we haven't done this (yet?) is because oil is globally priced. So oil that's pumped out of a well in Texas, refined in Louisiana, and sold in Iowa has the same price as oil that goes through the Gay of Hormuz. I understand why this is done, but I still think it's retarded.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:29 AM (2ocoG)

118 >>If that is in fact true, that brings us to the second part of my question that is still unanswered. If these capabilities still exist, why didn't we turn them into dust in one of the 17,000 bombing sorties we flew over the last month? We surely knew that the strait has always been a critical point of contention, and surely we are aware of the IRGC's capabilities in this regard.

Do you remember what happened in Iraq after Saddam was taken down? We proceeded to gut the entire government, military and related institutions of all regime supporters. And got ISIS.

Look at what Trump did in Venezuela after taking out Maduro. He didn't take down the administration, he kept them in charge and under our thumb. And now we control their oil. And they are barely in the news.

Trump can level Iran at any time he chooses. The question is then what? Because if anyone thinks we can just level the place and walk away with zero blowback they are delusional.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (P8t+z)

119 I read that the problem with the Straight of Hormuz is the land on the shore, filled with mountains and caves, so there's no telling where the Iranian Idiots have military instillations...

Posted by: Denny Crane - I DO Actually Read, Sometimes. at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (dmDsy)

120 Worst thing about the current situation is that this is going on before the midterms.

Posted by: tubal at April 09, 2026 11:12 AM (pDt9x)

This is kind of like not feeding a Gremlin after midnight.

It's ALWAYS before an election cycle. One of the things I like the most about Trump is that he doesn't have 'political fallout' at the top of his People Priority List.

I'm sure he considers it - he'd be remiss not to - but I don't believe it's his primary driver. I think he's sincerely trying to do what's best for America, letting the chips fall where they will.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (FmapG)

121 Put more simply: ceasefire is pointless. Just leave them a list of demands and a promise to return in a few years for more target practice unless they're met.

Come home, open up oil wells and gas lines, and leave the rest of the gay world to figure out their energy needs - we're gonna be ok over here.

Peace ON our time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (BI5O2)

122 Why would the US put its ships/sailors in harm's way for the benefit of other countries? "

This. Why help China? If threats keep China paying $100 bbl, then...let it go.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (XuXeR)

123 By the numbers. Comparing Artemis II to Going Nowhere Fast.

https://is.gd/JQbarg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (ndZc7)

124
The only reason we're talking about this is because YOU said you were going to nuke Iran with a B52 and now the media and public need to discern what that means.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2026 11:15 AM (JCZqz)
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These nutbars are literally hallucinating things Trump "did."

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (oqH4h)

125 108 NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.
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Any chance the Russian warship can stop the rubber boats loaded with 3rd world invading troops from crossing the Channel? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Indigenous People of Great Britain at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (Dv3i1)

126 NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.

When you're unable to put even ONE warship to sea for any period, you are no longer a serious player. GB has been punching above it's weight since WWII, but that's coming to an end. I'm wondering if removal from the UN Security Council is next. It gives me no pleasure to say this.

The Humiliation of Great Britain Is Complete

A few weeks back, the Financial Times declared that Britain is no longer a global power.

It's hard to dispute that statement. In fact, the FT was only saying aloud what everybody around the world has been thinking for quite a while.

https://is.gd/Ll4PSO

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:31 AM (Riz8t)

127
The money we've wasted bombing Iran could've been spent for a better cause, like helping starving Somali families in Minneapolis.

Posted by: Auspex at April 09, 2026 11:31 AM (Y8DZL)

128 So oil that's pumped out of a well in Texas"

Is not the same as Venezuela. Or Alberta.

Now the finished products...

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:32 AM (XuXeR)

129 Its all about taking Chy Na money out of American politics. See the gimps of California, Illinois and NYC. He's already done this in Venezuela and Cuber.
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But also, doing Venezuela first, adds to our domestic oil supply and makes it easier to got for the Iran thing, knowing that it is going to squeeze global supply. We are getting half a million barrels a day now from Venezuela. This is a multi stage planned op. Like I said yesterday, he's fighting WWIII now. Defeat the proxies, consolidate base of power, WWIII doesn't happen in our lifetime. China is depopulating as we speak. Vlad is aging out and has his hands full for the rest of his unnatural life. Islam, taking over Europe and being our NATO allies is the long term problem.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:32 AM (anL5R)

130 When I was a kid back in the '80s, my mom's cousin was a Republican Congressman. He told of how the Middle Eastern ambassadors would just shriek during negotiations, shouting down any attempt to come to agreement until they got their way.

It sounds like the same thing here. The Iranian government is on its last legs, maybe, but still they shriek, and demand, and refuse to give an inch. You'd think the Mullahs would be a bit conciliatory, but it seems like it's bred in the bone.

Posted by: Gorthanc at April 09, 2026 11:32 AM (8Q86n)

131 Good... Pete go bye, bye

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 11:32 AM (FtULh)

132 Do you remember what happened in Iraq after Saddam was taken down? We proceeded to gut the entire government, military and related institutions of all regime supporters. And got ISIS.

Look at what Trump did in Venezuela after taking out Maduro. He didn't take down the administration, he kept them in charge and under our thumb. And now we control their oil. And they are barely in the news.

Trump can level Iran at any time he chooses. The question is then what? Because if anyone thinks we can just level the place and walk away with zero blowback they are delusional.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (P8t+z)
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Did you quote the wrong guy? I'm not talking about "leveling Iran" and then just walking away or about conducting regime change like Iraq. I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (oqH4h)

133 England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (IifOV)

The UK can't even defend the English Channel from illegals. Their destroyer fleet is currently broken. Seriously. They have nothing with which to project naval force.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (n9ltV)

134 113 Because they don't necessarily put all their assets in big open yards, with signs saying "Bomb here".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:24 AM (Riz8t)
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If only the United States military had access to high-tech ISR assets and human intelligence to locate said assets....

If only.

Posted by: ballistic

What we have done so far is nigh on miraculous, but I guess unless we hit every single asset, we've failed utterly. Right?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

135 We should send Newsom's Wife in a golf cart to Iran to negotiate with any remaining Iranians big wigs.

Half an hour later she'll have murdered them all by accident.
Posted by: naturalfake

Whatever you do, don't give her an IDF Caterpillar D9!!!!

Posted by: Zombie Rachel Corrie at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (JCZqz)

136 Newsom’s Wife: San Quentin Convicts’ Crimes Were ‘Probably Accidents’
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Yeah, Charlie Manson was just a butterfingers.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah! I'm an innocent victim of circumstance! Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
Posted by: Scott "Curly" Peterson at April 09, 2026 11:23 AM (JCZqz)

We should send Newsom's Wife in a golf cart to Iran to negotiate with any remaining Iranians big wigs.

Half an hour later she'll have murdered them all by accident.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (iJfKG)
_________

Or sucked their dicks for career advantage ...

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (iFTx/)

137 If only the United States military had access to high-tech ISR assets and human intelligence to locate said assets....

If only.
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Snort.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (n17eQ)

138 NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.
Posted by: Frank Barone

Old and busted: English bulldog

New and cool: Taco Bell chihuahua

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)

139 Most Muslims are peaceful and are abiding by the "treaty" (that doesn't exist). It is just a few bad apples that are firing missiles and drones, and that are blocking the strait from free passage.

Same in the US, most are not stealing billions, it is just a few bad apples, in every state, that steal tens of billions and send it back to Somalia and points unknown.

Or so the "Give Peace a(nother 40 years of) Chance" crowd would have us believe.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (vbXSk)

140 I think Pete got whacked...

Posted by: Denny Crane - But, Not In The Good Way. at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (dmDsy)

141 It's hard to dispute that statement. In fact, the FT was only saying aloud what everybody around the world has been thinking for quite a while.
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For Pete's sake they fought a peer to peer battle against a second world country during THATCHER'S time and its been all downhill since.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (anL5R)

142 Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them"

Really? Wow. That's newsworthy. Very newsworthy. Our greatest allied power is ...

(OK, quit laughing)

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (XuXeR)

143 I'm sure he considers it - he'd be remiss not to - but I don't believe it's his primary driver. I think he's sincerely trying to do what's best for America, letting the chips fall where they will.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at April 09, 2026 11:30 AM (FmapG)

We are a world so capsized in a sea of phony paper pushing bureaucrat limpdick anemometers, that we hardly recognize real leadership when it is blaring in our face.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (8X0wm)

144 It sounds like the same thing here. The Iranian government is on its last legs, maybe, but still they shriek, and demand, and refuse to give an inch. You'd think the Mullahs would be a bit conciliatory, but it seems like it's bred in the bone.
_____

Allah is going to come through for us any minute now....yep, any minute....*taps watch*...now would be a good time.... ok how about now?....

Posted by: IRGC at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (Dv3i1)

145 133 England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (IifOV)

The UK can't even defend the English Channel from illegals. Their destroyer fleet is currently broken. Seriously. They have nothing with which to project naval force.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (n9ltV)

And they just angered the one person who could save their butts... Smart move

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 11:35 AM (FtULh)

146 Now is the time pump in arms to the Iranian people. Let them take back their country. And find that enriched uranium and haul it out.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at April 09, 2026 11:35 AM (ReKWQ)

147 I think Pete got whacked...
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TBF, its not like that was unexpected. I mean its titular with him, isn't it.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:35 AM (anL5R)

148 New and cool: Taco Bell chihuahua
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Chihuahuas scare the shit out of me. Nasty little shits.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:36 AM (n17eQ)

149 Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:29 AM (2ocoG)
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I've been assuming this as well. We don't need the oil, but expensive gas at the pumps means Trump cares about the price of oil

Posted by: 496 at April 09, 2026 11:36 AM (hdZBB)

150 NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.

When you're unable to put even ONE warship to sea for any period, you are no longer a serious player. GB has been punching above it's weight since WWII, but that's coming to an end. I'm wondering if removal from the UN Security Council is next. It gives me no pleasure to say this.

The Humiliation of Great Britain Is Complete

A few weeks back, the Financial Times declared that Britain is no longer a global power.

It's hard to dispute that statement. In fact, the FT was only saying aloud what everybody around the world has been thinking for quite a while.

https://is.gd/Ll4PSO
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:31 AM (Riz8t)

The Limeys have been hard at work for the last 70 years or so to turn Old Blighty into this.

Ashamed of their history, their country, and themselves, they voted for it every chance they got.

Good job, a-holes! you turned your children and grandchildren into poverty stricken sex slaves and catamites.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:36 AM (iJfKG)

151 >>Did you quote the wrong guy? I'm not talking about "leveling Iran" and then just walking away or about conducting regime change like Iraq. I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait.

Probably not possible without boots on the ground and obviously Trump doesn't want to do that. We have air superiorority over Iran but they still managed to take down one of our fighters with a shoulder fired missile. Could probably do similar attack on a ship.

The threat of an attack is enough to spook the market.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (P8t+z)

152 I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait."

I believe that we did. Everything in the news since is BS.

Like it usually is.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (XuXeR)

153 Just leave them a list of demands and a promise to return in a few years for more target practice unless they're met.

That is exactly what the Iranians want because they know that the chances that the President in a few years will be named Newsom, or some other Democrat, and that'll have free rein to do as they please.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (ExV1e)

154 A new video is circulating amongst the Iranian mullahs.

https://tinyurl.com/58m8nc3t

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (abIsI)

155 For Pete's sake they fought a peer to peer battle against a second world country during THATCHER'S time and its been all downhill since.

Not to detract in any way from the Brits who won that war, but I think it's pretty well accepted that GB couldn't have retaken the Falklands without substantial American assistance. It's only gotten worse since then. Much worse.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

156 The Persians have been "the Other" to Western Civilization going back to Xerxes and Darius trying to conquer the Greek city states around 400BC.
History may not repeat, but often rhymes.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (MNCvZ)

157 Old and busted: English bulldog

New and cool: Taco Bell chihuahua
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yo quiro Taco Bell!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (AnEIe)

158 And they just angered the one person who could save their butts... Smart move
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They did it on purpose, they think they can isolate the US until a Dem steals the executive branch in the next election who will restore the status quo of the entire world sucking the US economy into oblivion.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (Dv3i1)

159 Posted by: The Straights of Hormuz!! at April 09, 2026 11:28 AM (oftw2)

*Strait (singular)

Posted by: one hour sober at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (Y1sOo)

160 Meanwhile, with bluster on Truth Social about the ME, PDT slips an entire Marine Division into Oriente Province, Cuba, seizes Havana, and forgoes the usual stuff with a couple FBI agents and Marshals. "Cuban People, here you have them, the Castros and their allies. Have your way with them".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (gm9Sb)

161 I loved how Herr Starmer went to SA to say how "we" got a cease-fire...

Who the...what the... just who in the hell are you???

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (dmDsy)

162 but expensive gas at the pumps"

We've forgotten 2022? 2023?

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (XuXeR)

163 We are a world so capsized in a sea of phony paper pushing bureaucrat limpdick anemometers, that we hardly recognize real leadership when it is blaring in our face.
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Gavin Newsome will bravely expand High Speed Train another mile or two.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (n17eQ)

164 What we have done so far is nigh on miraculous, but I guess unless we hit every single asset, we've failed utterly. Right?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
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No, but if we did all that we did and somehow just forgot to utterly demolish their capability to exert control over the strait I would say that would be a foolish oversight.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (oqH4h)

165
And this is the entire point of us consolidating control of access to foreign petrochemicals, drastically expanding access and refining capacity for our own, and rapidly building our nuclear power infrastructure - as we have been doing in spite of Democrats for a decade now.

Yes - there will be medium term shocks in domestic markets if Hormuz were to be actually (not fakely, as now) closed. Those shocks will not be devastating, they will be obviated, and that puts us in the catbird seat, as the only non-Muslim power with adequate access to energy.

It's not that a chokepoint on Middle East oil helps us - it doesn't. It's that it cripples everyone else.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 11:39 AM (BI5O2)

166 You'd think the Mullahs would be a bit conciliatory, but it seems like it's bred in the bone.
Posted by: Gorthanc at April 09, 2026 11:32 AM (8Q86n)

What event, over the course of the majority of their lives, would lead them to believe that they needed to be conciliatory?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:39 AM (ExV1e)

167 The Iran situation reminds me of the Russo-Japanese War. The Japanese kicked the Ruskie's ass in the war, to the point where the rest of the world was stunned that an Asian country could so dominate a powerful western country.

But the Russkies were impossible to deal with in terms of negotiating a treaty. They kept insisting they won, and refused to give an inch. Eventually, they had no choice, but for a completely defeated enemy they were impossible to deal with.

This is why this reminds me of Iran. Plus, so long as Iran knows it can merely say the words "close the Strait" and the rest of the world runs to their fainting couches, it knows it will always have a very powerful bargaining chip.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (iFTx/)

168 It's not that a chokepoint on Middle East oil helps us - it doesn't. It's that it cripples everyone else."

This. X 10,000.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (XuXeR)

169
NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.
Posted by: Frank Barone

No one expects the Spanish Armada!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (Cqx++)

170 The UK can't even defend the English Channel from illegals.

Can't? Or chooses not to?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (ExV1e)

171 NEW: Putin has sent a warship to escort sanctioned Russian vessels through the English Channel after Keir Starmer threatened to seize them

England is a wet paper tiger with no teeth.
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 09, 2026 11:27 AM (IifOV)
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Grok says Britain has only 5-7 frigates plus destroyers available for active seas duty at the present time capable of taking on the Russian frigate Admiral Grigorovich.

The dynamic has changed since Jack Aubrey's time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (B+gJG)

172 BREAKING:

Hackers have stolen 10 petabytes of data from China’s largest state-run supercomputing facility in Tianjin

The hackers were inside the system for months & stole:

- Missile and bomb schematics
- Aerospace and aviation research
- Bioinformatics & fusion simulation data

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I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)

173 171 The UK can't even defend the English Channel from illegals.

Can't? Or chooses not to?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (ExV1e)

Yeah... I think that's more of a won't...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (FtULh)

174 It's not that a chokepoint on Middle East oil helps us - it doesn't. It's that it cripples everyone else.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 11:39 AM (BI5O2)

I have a rl friend (really!) whose theory since about 17 days ago is that this is what Trump is up to. You may have already said it too. Seems to be a very logical path that cuts through a lot but not all the bs

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (8X0wm)

175 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.

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The price of oil is global. We may not need the oil but we’re still paying the price for the lost supply.

Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (z0fc5)

176 What event, over the course of the majority of their lives, would lead them to believe that they needed to be conciliatory?"

Entebbe?

That's all I got

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (XuXeR)

177 Trump can level Iran at any time he chooses. The question is then what? Because if anyone thinks we can just level the place and walk away with zero blowback they are delusional.
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I think there is reason to believe he may have already done that. Maybe not, but I think the cease fire is in part an effort to reconn whether the leadership can actually lead the armed forces in Iran that are still coherent. If they promise a ceasefire and can't deliver, they are larpers. Also, confounding the analysis is the fact that the average Iranian leader, is bugfuck crazy. Which was the argument for killing them all in the first place. Mind you, the US wasn't killing the leadership. That was the Israelis . . . we focused on the military targets, the ballistic missile capability, uranium enrichment, anti air, launchers etc.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (anL5R)

178 Old and busted: English bulldog

New and cool: Taco Bell chihuahua
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (ndZc7)

Nah. Chihuahuas will come at you with a switchblade and fuck shit up. And you know the Taco Bell chihuahua has got the runs so he's leaving a trail of crap behind him as he's doing it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:42 AM (ExV1e)

179 I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (oqH4h)

Because Iran isn't controlling traffic in the strait with tactical or strategic forces.

Iran is making shipping companies (and their insurers) afraid to navigate the strait at all by threatening to damage them.

This they could do with single fishing boats, individuals with RPGs, kamikazi drones, et al.

Without seizing and holding both banks in perpetuity, we can not guarantee with 100% confidence that all of those threats are mitigated.

Because it's not a tactical problem - it's a mindset problem, and the Euros are pussies. We can solve tactical problems. We can't make men of the Euros.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at April 09, 2026 11:42 AM (FmapG)

180 I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait.

There appears to be no organized Iranian capability to control the strait. Roughly 10-12 ships a day have been going through with no incidents.

There is probably some *disorganized* capability that's completely divorced from any central command & control, and that's what everyone's scared of even though it hasn't actually shown up.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:43 AM (2ocoG)

181 Trump fell into the same trap Putin did thinking a war would be over in a few weeks. Turns out it’s not that easy.

Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:43 AM (z0fc5)

182 156 The Persians have been "the Other" to Western Civilization going back to Xerxes and Darius trying to conquer the Greek city states around 400BC.
History may not repeat, but often rhymes.

I just finished an interesting book. Rome and Persia: The Seven Hundred Year Rivalry by Adrian Goldworthy.

They were two massive empires, and reasonably closely matched.

Spoiler alert: Rome did not win every battle. In fact, the Sasanians almost took Constantinople in 626.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:43 AM (Riz8t)

183 Bit Byte Kilobyte Megabyte Gigabyte Terabyte Petabyte Exabyte Zetabyte Yottabyte

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:43 AM (8X0wm)

184 The hackers were inside the system for months & stole:

- Missile and bomb schematics
- Aerospace and aviation research
- Bioinformatics & fusion simulation data

I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)
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So they stole all the shit that Chy-nah stole from the US over the years. Got it.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (oqH4h)

185 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.
"

If we built more refining capacity* retail fuel prices would be better insulated from wholesale costs..

*I know, I know...

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (XuXeR)

186 Last night Keith Kellogg compared the Iran situation to the Punic Wars last night, and said at some point Trump is going full Third Punic on Iran, and the IRGC people still alive know it. He thinks that's why the administration has some hope this negotiation might bring about something good.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (B+gJG)

187 >>I think there is reason to believe he may have already done that. Maybe not, but I think the cease fire is in part an effort to reconn whether the leadership can actually lead the armed forces in Iran that are still coherent. If they promise a ceasefire and can't deliver, they are larpers. Also, confounding the analysis is the fact that the average Iranian leader, is bugfuck crazy. Which was the argument for killing them all in the first place. Mind you, the US wasn't killing the leadership. That was the Israelis . . . we focused on the military targets, the ballistic missile capability, uranium enrichment, anti air, launchers etc.

I tend to agree. This ceasefire is an opportunity to see if the current leadership can actually run the country under the terms we agree with. Somebody has got to be left in charge or we get chaos and chaos in the Middle East always leads to bad outcomes.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (P8t+z)

188 Most Muslims are peaceful and are abiding by the "treaty" (that doesn't exist). It is just a few bad apples that are firing missiles and drones, and that are blocking the strait from free passage.

Same in the US, most are not stealing billions, it is just a few bad apples, in every state, that steal tens of billions and send it back to Somalia and points unknown.

Or so the "Give Peace a(nother 40 years of) Chance" crowd would have us believe.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (vbXSk)

Iran is not universally muslim. Further, some of the muslim groups do not support the mullahs/IRCG. Admittedly, it's likely this is the case because they're on the outside and not part of the power structure but it's still true.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (ExV1e)

189 Quoting banned posters is an *excellent* way to get banned yourself, especially on a CBD thread. Because people seem to need that reminder.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:45 AM (2ocoG)

190 The ceasefire is good for rest and refit, resupply and retargeting. Allows new Supreme Leader Mullahs to emerge and for the media and other emptyheaded persons to spout off about that which they know nothing about. The bombing will resume when we say so with new targets.

Posted by: Bombs Away at April 09, 2026 11:45 AM (3LMJN)

191 I think Pete got whacked...
Posted by: Denny Crane - But, Not In The Good Way. at April 09, 2026 11:34 AM (dmDsy)

He's got a VPN, he'll be back and more VPN endpoints will be blocked.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:45 AM (ExV1e)

192
Petabyte?

It's the most popular name for Pit Bulls.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:45 AM (iJfKG)

193 Trump fell into the same trap Putin did thinking a war would be over in a few weeks. Turns out it’s not that easy.
Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:43 AM (z0fc5)
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and you have come to this grand conclusion based on what evidence?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:45 AM (B+gJG)

194 The price of oil is global"

Not this "all oil is the same" stuff again...

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:46 AM (XuXeR)

Posted by: megabytes for sale at April 09, 2026 11:46 AM (8X0wm)

196 184 Trump fell into the same trap Putin did thinking a war would be over in a few weeks. Turns out it’s not that easy.
Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:43 AM (z0fc5)

Really???

Four weeks to destroy a terrorist nation is considered "not that easy?"

Odd way to phrase that.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 11:46 AM (dmDsy)

197 Anything moving out of an Iranian port capable of carrying a mine gets zapped. Arm the merchantmen, very light artillery and a few M2s. If needed, because of lawyers, arm them while underway by helicopter. Shoot anything that threatens the ship.Problem solved.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 09, 2026 11:46 AM (gm9Sb)

198 Did you quote the wrong guy? I'm not talking about "leveling Iran" and then just walking away or about conducting regime change like Iraq. I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait.
Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (oqH4h)
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There's probably 100s of miles of Iranian coastline on the north of the Strait. Very difficult to weed out installations there capable of hitting sea traffic.

Plus, as I noted above, it's more a perception than an actual military threat: all Iran has to do it utter the words "close the Strait" and the rest of the world pees its pants.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 11:46 AM (iFTx/)

199 And those are laughable from the perspective of the rest of the world. Lying, cheating, outright stealing is part of the game, and they simply take advantage of the morality of Western culture to get what they want, and be damned with the other parties to the agreement.

I must comment this is true of many illegals in the US.
Job prices change, work is left undone, and they need another week.

Posted by: rhennigantx austere religious scholar at April 09, 2026 11:47 AM (/+uur)

200 all Iran has to do it utter the words "close the Strait" and the rest of the world pees its pants."

Truth. JIT inventory is stupid...

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:48 AM (XuXeR)

201 What is interesting to me is that in 1970, ALL of the middle east (hyperbole) wanted to be "of the West".

Because the West was the strong horse then.

Thanks to subversion from within (and help from the USSR), we now look like a very weak-willed horse.

And honestly, look at our media- who would CHOOSE to look like the freaks our media glorify?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 09, 2026 11:48 AM (N1DT3)

202 One thing AoS is well known for is it's purity tests in favor of supporting *Donald Trump*.

Oh and Israel. Come on let's talk about Israel. You know you want to....

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:48 AM (8X0wm)

203 Yknow who else was shaky?

**********

Michael J. Fox?

Posted by: muldoon at April 09, 2026 11:48 AM (qgHp7)

204 We've forgotten 2022? 2023?
Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:38 AM (XuXeR)

We're a TikTok generation now. We've forgotten February.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:48 AM (ExV1e)

205 Pre-order now!

Kneeling specialist Colin Kaepernick has written a memoir that will be released on the ten-year anniversary of his first kneel

-
Introduction by Kamala?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:49 AM (ndZc7)

206 JIT inventory is stupid...

It is and it isn't. Kimberly-Clarke just unwillingly demonstrated the downside of piling stuff up in a warehouse in advance.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:49 AM (2ocoG)

207 Pre-order now!

Kneeling specialist Colin Kaepernick has written a memoir that will be released on the ten-year anniversary of his first kneel

-
Introduction by Kamala?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:49 AM (ndZc7)
________

Jennifer Newsome!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 11:49 AM (iFTx/)

208 Lying, cheating, outright stealing is part of the game"

Indeed. Remember the "anti bribery" legislation/ publicity years ago? It hamstrung US companies....

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:49 AM (XuXeR)

209 I really don't understand why, when Iran threatens to close the Strait, we don't just say "fine with us". We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.
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The price of oil is global. We may not need the oil but we’re still paying the price for the lost supply.

I'd bet that price is low compared to the cost of a war. Plus, our "allies" and the heathen Chinee really REALLY need a lesson in consequences.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:49 AM (Riz8t)

210 I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)

A petabyte is larger than a shit-ton.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 09, 2026 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

211 We're a TikTok generation now. We've forgotten February."

Snort.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:50 AM (XuXeR)

212 Yknow who else was shaky?

***

Pope John Paul II?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (affD0)

213 The last time the Persians called a truce was when ghengis khan sacked and obliterated the Persian empire

Posted by: Matthew at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (OdsgZ)

214 petabyte is larger than a shit-ton"

Metric or imperial?

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (XuXeR)

215 Without seizing and holding both banks in perpetuity, we can not guarantee with 100% confidence that all of those threats are mitigated.

Because it's not a tactical problem - it's a mindset problem, and the Euros are pussies. We can solve tactical problems. We can't make men of the Euros.
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the strait is actually a mexican standoff between trump and the Euros.

The Euros are the ones with a need for an open strait. Trump literally told them to take it last week. He does not want to be the one covering their ass in perpetuity. He is going to squeeze them into acting in their own interest for once. However, the Euros, believe that the US political environment will force trump to act to open the strait. Its a waiting game. Who can take the pain longer. Ultimately, Trump may show up in the strait with mine sweepers and HK subs in two weeks and open it up for a couple of months - providing US backed insurance to shippers. Breaking Lloyds of london's ass while he is at it. I don't see the US putting permanent bases in the area, they may let an Arab Coalition take over Karg though. I think that's actually likely The Iranians really pissed off the neighbors

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (anL5R)

216 I tend to agree. This ceasefire is an opportunity to see if the current leadership can actually run the country under the terms we agree with. Somebody has got to be left in charge or we get chaos and chaos in the Middle East always leads to bad outcomes.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (P8t+z)

I agree. I would only add that the new "regime" in Iran NOT be a crazy fucking islamic caliphate douchebag gang of repressed fucking homos, like they've had the last 47 years....

I've seen the pictures! Iranian chicks had great legs back in the 70's! Make Iranian Chicks Great Again!!!!

Posted by: Denny Crane - Oh, Those Persian Women, They'll Be The Death Of Me! at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (dmDsy)

217 I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)
______

[Grins]

-- Cenobites

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (iFTx/)

218 Don't worry about chasing this guy around. The VPN pop ins will mysteriously stop as soon as Iran is done and the country is back on solid ground.

The ultimate in fair weather fandom. Needing things to "look" a certain way for your opinion to even matter? Yikes.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:51 AM (8X0wm)

219 It's not "Iranians" that are the problem. It's the mooselamic occupiers.. Need to quit assuming they are one and the same.

Posted by: Will Robinson at April 09, 2026 11:52 AM (cO6oP)

220 No one expects the Spanish Armada!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2026 11:40 AM (Cqx++)

In 2026, the Spanish Navy has 78 'active' naval vessels. Not sure that they accomplish anything with them, but they have them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:52 AM (ExV1e)

221 Zionism
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There it is.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 11:52 AM (8X0wm)

222 211 Pre-order now!

Kneeling specialist Colin Kaepernick has written a memoir that will be released on the ten-year anniversary of his first kneel
-
Introduction by Kamala?
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Double Snort.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 11:52 AM (n17eQ)

223
I'm constantly fascinated by these ex-morons who are banned, yet keep coming back to be annoyances.

Weird...I mean if they were in someone's house and the owner kicked them out and said "never come back".

Would they keep randomly breaking into the house or stand outside yelling their "brilliant" conversational points at those inside or just stand there ringing the doorbell?

If so, they'd be committed to the nearest loony bin.

Seriously, loony, y'all.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (iJfKG)

224 A petabyte is 1024 terabytes.

New consumer-level computers come with a solid-state disk sized in the 0.5 to 4 terabyte range. So a petabyte is a metric fuck ton.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (2ocoG)

225 208 Yknow who else was shaky?

Susan Collins?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (abIsI)

226 I wasn’t thrilled with this at first but then though ok if we get rid of the assholes in Iran, sure why not. But now we’re not getting rid of the assholes. We’re “negotiating” with them.

So what was the point of it? Just back where we started.

It’s like every war since WW2. We never finish the job.

Posted by: Heroq at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (z0fc5)

227 A new video is circulating amongst the Iranian mullahs.

https://tinyurl.com/58m8nc3t
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (abIsI)
=====================
That blonde is pretty outstanding. The video should focus on her and forget all the rest.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (8S0LS)

228 Obviously President Trump's destroy civilization lines were directed toward the 'leaders' for negotiations and the retarded TDS crowd simply ran with it because they do...

I'm kind of thinking all this ceasefire talk is also just an act to cool things down for a bit.

When this is over the US and Israel can just go in and take out a bridge here, a power plant there. Nice slow. Boil the frog. Western concentration isn't that .....hey, there's a squirrel in my backyard.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (Sco7b)

229 Well, he's in Heaven now.

British police charge charismatic pastor with manslaughter after Jamaican grandfather with Parkinson's drowns in kiddie-pool baptism

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (ndZc7)

230 it's disheartening to realize how much the blog endorses Zionism.
==
Okay- define what you mean by Zionism.

then show how this "blog" endorses what you defined.

Or make sense in some other way, rather than just buzz wording your feelings, concern troll.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:54 AM (anL5R)

231 In 2026, the Spanish Navy has 78 'active' naval vessels."

At some point, someone (Argentina? Spain? Who knows) is going to say "f it, we're taking....."

It'll be interesting

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:54 AM (XuXeR)

232 British police charge charismatic pastor with manslaughter after Jamaican grandfather with Parkinson's drowns in kiddie-pool baptism
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM

Dafuq?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 09, 2026 11:54 AM (Wnv9h)

233

In 2026, the Spanish Navy has 78 'active' naval vessels. Not sure that they accomplish anything with them, but they have them.

As of early 2026, the British Royal Navy operates approximately 62 to 63 commissioned ships in active service, though the number of actively deployed warships is significantly lower due to maintenance. The fleet includes two aircraft carriers, six Type 45 destroyers, seven Type 23 frigates, and ten nuclear-powered submarines, plus Royal Fleet Auxiliary support vessels

At last, our time has come!

Posted by: The Spanish at April 09, 2026 11:54 AM (Riz8t)

234 OK, I don't agree that AoS is a Trump Church, but suppose you do. I'll grant that it is, for the purpose of reasoning.

I'm a Jew. I don't go sit in the pews at the Baptist church up the block and demand they renounce Christ. That would be insane. If I did, they'd kick me out. If I then returned in a mask and demanded it, I'd be completely insane. They'd call all the men in white coats.

You're losing your mind. Go camping. By yourself. For awhile.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 11:55 AM (BI5O2)

235 That blonde is pretty outstanding. The video should focus on her and forget all the rest.
==
Hmm, now that video seems relevant to my interests . . .

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 11:55 AM (anL5R)

236 I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)

1 petabyte == 1000 terabytes.
1 Terabyte == 1000 gigabytes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:55 AM (ExV1e)

237 It's acceptable to have a nuanced opinion and be against extremist Islam and Zionism.

Define "Zionism". Because I've heard some really loopy claims lately, including that the war in Iran is for "Israeli expansionism". Israel most definitely is not interested in expansion. Otherwise they wouldn't have offered Arafat everything he claimed he wanted back in the 1990s (Arafat rejected it, of course, because what he *actually* wanted was dead Jews, same as about 90% of the current Palestinian population).

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:55 AM (2ocoG)

238 Yesterday CNN had "remembering Michael J Fox" on the bottom of their screen, forcing Michael J Fox to issue a statement: "I'm still alive".

CNN is such a failure.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (IifOV)

239 I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Depends on whether or not you have been innoculated.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (XeU6L)

240 I just got an email saying that I'm the new Supreme Leader of Iran.
=======

Before you accept, consider the pros and cons:

Cons -
No more pork or alcoholic beverages.
You must kill all pet dogs you have and cannot ever have pet dogs.
Must wear crazy clothing and headwear.
Must eat goat meat and goat milk cheese and yogurt.
Must pray for at least 30 minutes five times a day.

Pros:
As many wives as you want. Divorce any of them anytime you want.
Kill an infidel by suicide attack, scoring you 72 virgins in the afterlife. (Warning: Allah may select virgins not to your liking)

Posted by: Gref at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (5rh/l)

241 antisemites gathering in aisle 222

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (8S0LS)

242 So a petabyte is a metric f*** ton.

Please convert to Imperial units.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (Riz8t)

243 Would they keep randomly breaking into the house or stand outside yelling their "brilliant" conversational points at those inside or just stand there ringing the doorbell?

If so, they'd be committed to the nearest loony bin.

Seriously, loony, y'all.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 11:53 AM (iJfKG)

If you're talking about "pete", I will just say he ain't the same pillow-biter from past iterations... he's yet another limp-wristed beta fag that just signed up to be the next troll here....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (dmDsy)

244 At last, our time has come!
Posted by: The Spanish"

Hold our beer!

/Cajun Navy, invading....margaritaville.

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:56 AM (XuXeR)

245 Thought experiment:

Is it even possible to conduct a war of global conquest? And succeed?

Wars require technological prowess and the willpower to do everything necessary to use it to its fullest extent.

What nation (or group of nations) possess both qualities in full?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 09, 2026 11:57 AM (ESVrU)

246 Don't cut and paste the trolls, and that includes the jerk-off.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:57 AM (n9ltV)

247 Hmm, now that video seems relevant to my interests . . ."

Don't take the bait ..

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 11:57 AM (XuXeR)

248 I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

***

I think I had a petabyte in my teens and it was fixed with Orthodontia

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2026 11:58 AM (affD0)

249 238 I don't know what a petabyte is but it sounds bad.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:41 AM (ndZc7)

1 petabyte == 1000 terabytes.
1 Terabyte == 1000 gigabytes.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 11:55 AM (ExV1e

That's a lifetime of pron.

Of course lately for the Iranians, a 2 month Hustler video subscription is also a lifetime of pron.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 09, 2026 11:58 AM (Sco7b)

250 Do my eyes deceive me?

Disney just ditched "gender-neutral" greetings for the classic "ladies and gentlemen." Here's why that's big news, even if you don't care about Disney anymore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 11:58 AM (ndZc7)

251 But now we’re not getting rid of the assholes. We’re “negotiating” with them.

You saw what happened in Venezuela, right? We left the assholes in power to prevent a power vacuum, while also making it clear that one wrong move and they'll be dead. And that's worked well.

Iran currently consists of killing layers of leadership until we drill down to someone who doesn't actually want to die on behalf of the imam trapped in the well without Lassie to tell anyone.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 11:59 AM (2ocoG)

252 I think I had a petabyte in my teens and it was fixed with Orthodontia

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 09, 2026 11:58 AM (affD0)

Or the shot of penicillin.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:59 AM (n9ltV)

253 The geography of the strait definitely favors Iran. Mountainous regions with lots of cliffs and caves for overwatch of the passage. And yes they have plenty of drones and anti-ship missiles, you don't have to look to hard for the evidence. Pretty much a carpet bombing situation to clear it out, which means slow moving planes.

The islands they have there have much of the same, but those are much more easily taken out.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2026 11:59 AM (n5tGW)

254 so capsized in a sea of phony paper pushing bureaucrat limpdick anemometers

Saw Limpdick Anemometers open for Shyster at the Suckamore Grave down by Unluckey, right after the hostages were taken.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 09, 2026 12:00 PM (zdLoL)

255 "Absent a successful revolution and the ascension of Pahlavi or another anti-Mullah figure to a position of authority, Iran will not change."

Nailed it.

And I don't see this failed ceasefire as a failure. It's a great success in proving that the mullahcracy has to be exterminated, to the last man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2026 12:00 PM (utfVc)

256 So they stole all the shit that Chy-nah stole from the US over the years. Got it.
Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:44 AM (oqH4h)

Would have been better if they'd replaced them with lolcat memes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2026 12:00 PM (ExV1e)

257 How about that.

>>@BarakRavid
·
25m
>>🚨🚨 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: In light of Lebanon’s repeated requests to open direct negotiations with Israel, I instructed yesterday to begin direct negotiations with Lebanon as soon as possible. The negotiations will focus on disarming Hezbollah and establishing peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon. Israel appreciates the Lebanese prime minister’s call today to demilitarize Beirut

Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 12:02 PM (P8t+z)

258 I think this ceasefire will end once those other 2 carrier groups show up though which neatly arrive at the new moon and the end of the 2 weeks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (n5tGW)

259 Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2026 12:02 PM (P8t+z)

It's a start

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (F1quE)

260 I already said above Trump *may* have made a tremendous mistake. Even used that word. And explained how but also explained why time (a particular time) will tell the story. Because I'm not a fucktard with an axe to grind.

Well I kind of am - but that's different and they tolerate me because I love Israel and they know I'm secretly Mossad.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (8X0wm)

261 "Iran is not universally muslim. Further, some of the muslim groups do not support the mullahs/IRCG."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Last I heard, Iran is like 65% non-Muslim (Persian?), which makes it crazy that the terrorist "few" run the country (still).

The US is also not Muslim (yet), but they punch above their weight when it comes to the massive frauds, since their "morals" apparently include deceiving and stealing from the "Great Satan" in order to advance their Muslim cause (of conquering the world).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (vbXSk)

262 Great, Wankin' Willie shows up again and the site goes wonky. F'in awesome.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (OUMaO)

263 The insightful logical argumentation of the chronic masturbater is certainly going to change minds and influence people.

Seriously, it you have decided to do the bitch over there eating crackers thing, you might want to get your mental health checked. There is something more going on with you than just a political disagreement. You may be a paid dissenter, or you may be motivated by irrational fear/hatred. Either way, its not going to gather much support. Why not find something to do that relaxes you, rather than aggravates you. I suspect you have a special past time that seems to provide comfort?

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (anL5R)

264 And I don't see this failed ceasefire as a failure. It's a great success in proving that the mullahcracy has to be exterminated, to the last man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2026 12:00 PM (utfVc)

This.

It's one more arrow in the quiver of 'we tried everything, but these fuckers just insisted we kill them all.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (FmapG)

265 Yesterday CNN had "remembering Michael J Fox" on the bottom of their screen, forcing Michael J Fox to issue a statement: "I'm still alive".

-
You're not fooling anybody!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (ndZc7)

266 Iran has never and will never negotiate in good faith.

***********

They are actually Strait shooters.

Posted by: muldoon at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (qgHp7)

267 Yesterday CNN had "remembering Michael J Fox" on the bottom of their screen

My 'local' newspaper celebrated Tom Lehrer's 98th birthday today.

Tom Lehrer died last July.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (zdLoL)

268 Not to detract in any way from the Brits who won that war, but I think it's pretty well accepted that GB couldn't have retaken the Falklands without substantial American assistance. It's only gotten worse since then. Much worse.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

Milei recently stated that the position of the Argentine government has been and continues to be that the Falklands/Malvinas are Argentine.
The Brits may be able to send assets to defend it by commercial carrier, or by DHL.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (rbvCR)

269 Did I just live through a 4 minute delusion?

Posted by: Denny Crane - Oh, Those Illicit Drugs! at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (dmDsy)

270
Last I heard, Iran is like 65% non-Muslim (Persian?), which makes it crazy that the terrorist "few" run the country (still).

Unarmed Citizenry

Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (F1quE)

271 "Zionism" is a nice way of saying "doesn't agree that every last Jew should be exterminated".

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 12:05 PM (8X0wm)

272 Not “West-adjacent”?

Posted by: Cow Demon at April 09, 2026 12:06 PM (E6xSb)

273 My 'local' newspaper celebrated Tom Lehrer's 98th birthday today.

Tom Lehrer died last July.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (zdLoL)

Forget it they're rolling

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (8X0wm)

274 I'm starting to think this Iran op will consume Trump's entire term.

IMO
I could be wrong.

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (ZxPkt)

275 "Absent a successful revolution and the ascension of Pahlavi or another anti-Mullah figure to a position of authority, Iran will not change."

Nailed it.

And I don't see this failed ceasefire as a failure. It's a great success in proving that the mullahcracy has to be exterminated, to the last man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2026 12:00 PM (utfVc)

That was always my attitude. Completely wiped from the face of the earth has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (snZF9)

276 Yesterday CNN had "remembering Michael J Fox" on the bottom of their screen, forcing Michael J Fox to issue a statement: "I'm still alive".

I mean, you can remember people who are still alive.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (y9ksN)

277 I'm starting to think this Iran op will consume Trump's entire term.

IMO
I could be wrong.

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (ZxPkt)

It won't.

Posted by: ... at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (8X0wm)

278 Last I heard, Iran is like 65% non-Muslim (Persian?), which makes it crazy that the terrorist "few" run the country (still).

Unarmed Citizenry
Posted by: It's me donna at April 09, 2026 12:04 PM (F1quE)

That's why I keep saying the one thing we really need to do in Iran is get rid of islam from their government...

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (dmDsy)

279 Why not find something to do that relaxes you, rather than aggravates you. I suspect you have a special past time that seems to provide comfort?

I think you're overlooking the impact of severe chapping due to overuse. The struggle is real.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 12:08 PM (Riz8t)

280 "Zionism" is a nice way of saying "doesn't agree that every last Jew should be exterminated".
==
Yeah. That's why when two different people asked for the definition and got - crickets.

Its the new RAYCISS. Its a buzzword. A label. It is supposed to suggest something dirty or bad.

They can't define it, because they don't know what it is either.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:08 PM (anL5R)

281 Some good news

HERO!!! This is Pauls Valley High School (Oklahoma) Principal Kirk Moore. Yesterday, he tackled a would-be school shooter and was shot.
Because of Principal Moore, no one else was hurt.
He is recovering in the hospital.
The suspect is in jail.

https://is.gd/7QmS8O

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 12:09 PM (ndZc7)

282 Why not find something to do that relaxes you, rather than aggravates you. I suspect you have a special past time that seems to provide comfort?

I think you're overlooking the impact of severe chapping due to overuse. The struggle is real.
===
Jergins is real.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:09 PM (anL5R)

283 Last I heard, Iran is like 65% non-Muslim (Persian?), which makes it crazy that the terrorist "few" run the country (still).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2026 12:03 PM (vbXSk)
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For the same reason that roughly 65% of the United States aren't wackjob leftoid retards, but that 35% wants power and is willing to do anything to obtain it, just like the fascist Islamists in Iran, and we get ruled by a leftoid retard about half the time. The only reason they haven't done it here is that we have guns.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 12:10 PM (oqH4h)

284 "anti-ship missiles are moved well inland or have been destroyed"

As a thought experiment, describe the type of missle thst can damage/sink an unarmed and unarmored oil tanker versus one designed to damage/sink a warship.

Looking at Google maps, the strait is roughly 50km wide. A single BM-21 could take out a tanker

Posted by: Richard Cranium at April 09, 2026 12:10 PM (DLVKS)

285 Why not find something to do that relaxes you, rather than aggravates you. I suspect you have a special past time that seems to provide comfort?

I think you're overlooking the impact of severe chapping due to overuse. The struggle is real.
===
Jergins is real.
---------
The Harry formerly known as Prince could offer some options.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 09, 2026 12:11 PM (jwJyU)

286 Some good news

HERO!!! This is Pauls Valley High School (Oklahoma) Principal Kirk Moore. Yesterday, he tackled a would-be school shooter and was shot.
Because of Principal Moore, no one else was hurt.
He is recovering in the hospital.
The suspect is in jail.

https://is.gd/7QmS8O

Looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy. It's a good disguise for a Mega Chad.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Riz8t)

287 This new Pete is fucking boring.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 09, 2026 12:11 PM (dmDsy)

288 Also- the Irish government has called out the army to put down protests

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:11 PM (ZxPkt)

289
My 'local' newspaper celebrated Tom Lehrer's 98th birthday today.

Tom Lehrer died last July.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver
-------

Recently here, there was passing mention of 'The Merry Minuet', for which I will always appreciate Leher.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2026 12:12 PM (XeU6L)

290 Some Irish army officers are refusing

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:12 PM (ZxPkt)

291 Oh man, I reading a story about some illegal scum killing a convenience store worker with a hammer thinking they would fuzz out the attack on the video. They didn't. Just brutal.

This is who the Dems protect.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 09, 2026 12:12 PM (n5tGW)

292 Would be nice if we still had battleships capable of real naval bombardment of the Iranian coastline.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 12:12 PM (oqH4h)

293 This new Pete is fucking boring.

He's a bog-standard Chinabot. Like Swalwell, but self-servicing instead of having to curse some poor Chinese girl to a lifetime of brain bleach.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 12:13 PM (2ocoG)

294 "Iran Is Not Of The West"

True. But I'm not the the West is of the West any more ...

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 12:13 PM (iFTx/)

295 Heh, I used to listen to the Tom Lehrer record as a kid. I always laughed hardest at the nuclear war and racism songs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 12:13 PM (BI5O2)

296 "Iran Is Not Of The West"

True. But I'm not sure the West is of the West any more ...

Posted by: Elric The Blade at April 09, 2026 12:13 PM (iFTx/)

297 Recently here, there was passing mention of 'The Merry Minuet', for which I will always appreciate Leher.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2026 12:12 PM (XeU6L)
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The Merry Minuet was written by Sheldon Harnick and popularized by the Kingston Trio.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (jwJyU)

298 Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 12:11 PM (Riz8t)

Whatever he looks like, he managed to tackle the shooter and that is a good thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (IeCgc)

299 Looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

-
Hey! I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (ndZc7)

300 Would be nice if we still had battleships capable of real naval bombardment of the Iranian coastline.

Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 12:12 PM (oqH4h)

Yeah I would think 16" guns are pretty cost effective in the grand scheme.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (snZF9)

301 Yesterday CNN had "remembering Michael J Fox" on the bottom of their screen, forcing Michael J Fox to issue a statement: "I'm still alive".
I mean, you can remember people who are still alive.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (y9ksN)

Maybe he can take a hint...

Posted by: Death at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (/1l9x)

302 Oh man, I reading a story about some illegal scum killing a convenience store worker with a hammer thinking they would fuzz out the attack on the video. They didn't. Just brutal.

This is who the Dems protect.

The DNC posted this morning bragging about their new all-40-year-old-white-women Supreme Court in Wisconsin.

If I were JJ I'd be getting the fuck out of that state.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (2ocoG)

303 I'm starting to think this Iran op will consume Trump's entire term.

IMO
I could be wrong.
===
I don't think so. I think he already has what he needed, destruction of ballistic missile capacity, uranium enrichment and stocks, decapitation of major assholes. He wants Europe to get off their assess and help themselves with the strait. If they won't, then he will eventually open it up for a while and then he is going to walk away from it.

I think the neighborhood has had enough of Iran, and they are going to be eating shit for a decade because of what they did to their neighbors. They arent the bully on the block anymore.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (anL5R)

304 My 'local' newspaper celebrated Tom Lehrer's 98th birthday today.

Tom Lehrer died last July.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

Listened to all 3 CDs within the last month.

Posted by: Stateless - He ain't heavy, he's my dog. Old, but full of life. at April 09, 2026 12:14 PM (Sco7b)

305 Also- the Irish government has called out the army to put down protests
Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:11 PM (ZxPkt)

Do they really want Provos? Because that is how you get Provos.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 09, 2026 12:15 PM (rbvCR)

306 > This new Pete is fucking boring.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G)
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it's all the masturbating, isn't it

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:15 PM (ZxPkt)

307 I'm starting to think this Iran op will consume Trump's entire term.

IMO
I could be wrong.

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (ZxPkt)

You're wrong.

Impeachments will consume his entire term.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at April 09, 2026 12:15 PM (FmapG)

308 New one:

Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals: Pornographers Have No "Right" to Sell Their Pornography to Taxpayer Funded School Libraries So That Children Have Access to Their Porn

Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 12:16 PM (Riz8t)

309 The Merry Minuet was written by Sheldon Harnick and popularized by the Kingston Trio.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
-----

What?! All of these years I've thought it was Lehrer.
*sigh*
Thanks for the correction.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2026 12:16 PM (XeU6L)

310 Ace is up.

Posted by: Nazdar at April 09, 2026 12:16 PM (NcvvS)

311 ?

JD Vance Takes Center Stage in Peace Negotiations With Iran

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Damn It Feels Good to Be a Trumpster! at April 09, 2026 12:16 PM (ndZc7)

312 I would not mess with the Irish right now
they have burned some immigrant housing to the ground recently

Posted by: Don Black at April 09, 2026 12:17 PM (ZxPkt)

313 "Absent a successful revolution and the ascension of Pahlavi or another anti-Mullah figure to a position of authority, Iran will not change."

Nailed it.

And I don't see this failed ceasefire as a failure. It's a great success in proving that the mullahcracy has to be exterminated, to the last man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2026 12:00 PM (utfVc)

That was always my attitude. Completely wiped from the face of the earth has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 09, 2026 12:07 PM (snZF9)

Yeah, the whole of the history of the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran has been a constant contest about-

Who can be the biggest islamic ratfucker responsible for killing Jews and Americans?

Anyone not on board with this radical agenda was not going to make it and not advance and probably was killed as a traitor.

So, probably it's going to require a lot more killing to plow through this pile of psychos until we're dealing with someone halfway sane and moral in the Western sense.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 12:17 PM (iJfKG)

314 We don't need the oil, and the people who do have been anything but helpful. Screw 'em.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

Apparently we DO need the oil.

I paid $6.19 for diesel on Tuesday. I'm just driving to and from the gym every day. Unfortunately, the guys that truck your food to the store are using the same sh*t I am... and if you don't think that isn't going to cause prices of everything to go up, I donno what to tell you.

Diesel is the lifeblood of the economy. Literally nothing happens in our society without it. The higher it goes, the more expensive sh*t is going to cost.

I still don't know how and why diesel became so much more expensive than regular. They used to be on par with one another.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 09, 2026 12:17 PM (WYStd)

315 Some Irish army officers are refusing"

Well, they're Irish, so...revolting?

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 12:17 PM (XuXeR)

316 No Blade porn nood

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at April 09, 2026 12:17 PM (VkY89)

317 They have talked about the emergence of moderates. I think Rubio was the last person I noticed...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 09, 2026 11:13 AM (n9ltV)
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Thank heavens, it wasn't Rubio talking like this.

https://tinyurl.com/3tykp359

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 09, 2026 12:17 PM (4tMC7)

318 My 'local' newspaper celebrated Tom Lehrer's 98th birthday today.

Tom Lehrer died last July.

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Dibs on his unopened gifts...

...and the first piece of cake.

Posted by: muldoon at April 09, 2026 12:18 PM (qgHp7)

319 275 I'm starting to think this Iran op will consume Trump's entire term.

IMO
I could be wrong.
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Trump is pretty good at changing the channels. Let the Dems circle the wagons for their cohorts in Iran and then change the channel to something else. What is interesting is how small and impotent the Left is these days.

Posted by: pudinhead at April 09, 2026 12:18 PM (n17eQ)

320 Now that I think about it, the years 1954-2008 were just National Brotherhood Week.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 09, 2026 12:18 PM (BI5O2)

321 paid $6.19 for diesel on Tuesday. "

Why is that about $2 more than here? Doesn't cost that much to transport. .

Posted by: man at April 09, 2026 12:19 PM (XuXeR)

322
Looking at Google maps, the strait is roughly 50km wide. A single BM-21 could take out a tanker
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Modern frigates typically provide local area defense out to 30–120+ km (using medium-to-long-range missiles) and point defense within a 1–10 km radius (using CIWS and short-range missiles)

An the Europeans can't scrounge up 4 frigates to post up in the strait, supported by a Saudi Awacs?

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:20 PM (anL5R)

323
Last I heard, Iran is like 65% non-Muslim (Persian?), which makes it crazy that the terrorist "few" run the country (still).

Posted by: illiniwek

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How many people were card-carrying communists in the USSR? It's only about 5% in the PRC. And how many are card-carrying fanatics even in places like Saudi Arabia? Shockingly few. Observe them once they escape Saudi airspace.

And look at our own ELECTED elites, refusing to do the will of 70-80% of Americans on issues like illegal migration and secure voting.

I know I've read up on how this happens, but I can't remember right now. But it's a universal thing, and "only" 35% Muslims in Iran with some handful being turbaned dictators seems nigh-insurmountable to me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2026 12:21 PM (n7rxJ)

324
Neocons?

Ha ha ha.

You just blew your cover dumbass.

Nobody uses 'neocon" anymore. Not even "neocons".

"Neocon" was always a libtard boogyman. You're reading from the wrong playbook.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2026 12:21 PM (iJfKG)

325 Did you quote the wrong guy? I'm not talking about "leveling Iran" and then just walking away or about conducting regime change like Iraq. I'm asking why we didn't do more to take out whatever resources Iran could possibly use to try to control traffic in the strait.
Posted by: ballistic at April 09, 2026 11:33 AM (oqH4h)

Iran has long-range missiles that can hit Israel. Those same missiles could be fired from any site in Iran, and hit a vessel in the Strait. Or miss it, and blow up harmlessly. But as long as they have the capability, insurers won't insure. Regime change is the only way to ensure the Strait reopens.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2026 12:22 PM (utfVc)

326
Nobody uses 'neocon" anymore. Not even "neocons".

"Neocon" was always a libtard boogyman. You're reading from the wrong playbook.
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Yeah, this doesn't sound like the old masturbatin pete at all. Frankly, the old boulder terlit hobo didn't sound like his old self either. The new versions of those nick's sound identical to each other. I wonder if some assmunch decided to mine old nicks and appearing in "drag" so he can act like a dope.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:25 PM (anL5R)

327 ran has long-range missiles that can hit Israel. Those same missiles could be fired from any site in Iran, and hit a vessel in the Strait. Or miss it, and blow up harmlessly. But as long as they have the capability, insurers won't insure. Regime change is the only way to ensure the Strait reopens.
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We sweep mines and kill subs for a week.

Euros post up 4 frigates, Saudi Awacs rolls top down eyes. Strait open without our involvement.

two: US provides insurance to strait passage that Lloyds won't.

These problems aren't really that hard to solve. It just takes a few weeks to get people to come around.

Posted by: European Limpdicks are not reliable allies at April 09, 2026 12:28 PM (anL5R)

328 Trump is you Mahdi.

Posted by: ObsidianKnife at April 09, 2026 12:42 PM (6SjEW)

329 Apparently we DO need the oil.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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No, we don't. But, unless and until the government decides that it's time for us to quit being Mr Nice Guy and act like every other selfish bastard country out there and prohibit oil and fuel exports to them.
The reason you're paying so much is that those other countries, who can no longer get mid-east oil, are willing to pay more than you did. You're in an auction for US oil, and you're being outbid.

Posted by: buddhaha at April 09, 2026 01:01 PM (RVkHv)

330 Trump is you Mahdi.
Posted by: ObsidianKnife at April 09, 2026 12:42 PM (6SjEW)

He was riding on a bike and got hit in the head with a rock leading to having visions that led him to set nations aflame? Woa. I didn't even know Trump knew how to ride a bike.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 09, 2026 01:06 PM (rbvCR)

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