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Trump To Cowardly Countries Complaining They Can't Get Their Oil Through the Strait of Hormuz: If You Want Your Oil, Send In Your Navy and Take It Yourselves, Tough-Guys

straitofhormuztakeit.jpg

Is Trump shifting the Overton Window to suggest that whoever can control the Strait -- like America -- should control the Strait?


American Debunk
@AmericanDebunk


This post by Trump is pre-framing what's to come. Read along and you'll start to see it too.

When Trump tells the UK to "go to the Strait and just TAKE IT," the surface read is that he's venting at allies who didn't show up.

But the deeper move is priming the the public (and world) with a new mental frame: the Strait of Hormuz is not Iranian sovereign territory anymore.

It's available real estate. It's takeable. Anyone with courage can have it.

That's a massive Overton Window shift delivered, in a tweet, as an insult to the UK.

A year ago "America controls the Strait of Hormuz" sounded like some twisted fantasy. Today Trump is telling Britain to go grab it themselves like it's a parking spot.

In a few weeks, Trump has normalized the concept of Western control over the Strait so thoroughly that full US seizure now looks like the modest option compared to what he's suggesting allies do on their own. This is intentional.

The persuasion mechanics here are priming plus pre-selling. Whatever the eventual deal includes (US Navy permanent presence, joint patrols, Iranian withdrawal from mining infrastructure) the public will accept it because Trump already told them the Strait is there for the taking. Your subconscious mind has already been primed to accept it.

This "psychological baseline" is going to influence Trump-Iran negotiations. Best believe it.

"The hard part is done" works the same way. He's managing public fatigue.

It translates to "we won, relax, this is cleanup".

This keeps approval from eroding while the Pakistan talks drag through April.

Trump isn't describing reality. He's installing it.

Say the Strait is takeable enough times and it becomes takeable in the public mind.

It's been 10 years of Trump and he still leaves me in awe with his persuasion.

And Trump is also shifting the Overton Window on the NATO alliance -- and I have shifted with him. An alliance is like a contract between nations; it either provides reciprocal advantage to both parties, or it's repudiated.

I used to worry that Europe would be taken over by Russia with NATO. Now I don't care if it is or isn't, and anyway, Europe is choosing Soviet Communism on its own without Russia tanks compelling it to.

And obviously, it is Islam conquering Europe, not Russia.


Note that last one is from the State Department's official account.



Did Trump manage to open the Strait of America?

The Dow shot up 900 points, which equates to forty fucking million Deutschmarks.



Gummi
@gummibear737

Western civilization may never win another war if this keeps up

This is maddening. The radical left, mainstream media, and the woke right are running the exact same playbook with the US/Israel campaign against Iran as they did with Israel in Gaza

They create impossible standards in terms of:

-Zero Casualties
-Zero Economic Disruption
-Zero Uncertainty
-Zero Time to Accomplish the Mission
-Zero Collateral Damage

And everything the bad guys do is actually our fault because we made them do it....same script as Gaza...the bad guys have no agency and it's actually our fault

Day 32 of the Iran war:
-degraded missile factories, nuclear sites, IRGC bases, and proxy networks
-the Supreme Leader is gone...and his replacement is s vegetable
-all the top leadership is gone...in fact, we don't even know who's in charge

Yet the all you hear is endless doomerism

And all of this sounds exactly like the demoralization propaganda from Russia, China, and Iran, that has infiltrated our society for years via social media and retarded influencers chasing click

This isn't responsible skepticism

It's weakness...

And you'll never get peace through strength when the opponent knows you lack resolve and they can just wait you out

This is madness

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:32 PM




Comments

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1 I’ll go nood

Posted by: Turn 2 at March 31, 2026 02:33 PM (SlGTd)

2 Trump the Destroyer

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 31, 2026 02:34 PM (HXT0k)

3 Exit NATO and the UN, now!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 31, 2026 02:35 PM (RDqo2)

4 I doubt this will be enough of a wake up call.

They've relied on the US for their security for 4 generations. There's barely anyone alive in those countries that can remember when they took care of themselves.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 31, 2026 02:37 PM (N1DT3)

5 >>> I’ll go nood
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 31, 2026 02:33 PM (SlGTd)

=====

Crap. Phrasing. I forgot my wife said I was never allowed to again.

Posted by: Turn 2 at March 31, 2026 02:37 PM (SlGTd)

6 Is Trump shifting the Overton Window to suggest that whoever can control the Strait -- like America -- should control the Strait?

i've occasionally thought that maybe we should get serious about colonization

Posted by: anachronda at March 31, 2026 02:38 PM (oY6Yp)

7 Dayummmmm!
Blunt, but perfect.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2026 02:38 PM (4KUe5)

8 I doubt this will be enough of a wake up call.

It should be... We just proved we actually don't need them.....

Posted by: It's me donna at March 31, 2026 02:38 PM (kamC8)

9 It's taken awhile, but I have finally come to the conclusion that Jackson has a below average IQ. Still smarter than the idiot who nominated her though.

Yeah. She's genuinely lstupid and she's the poster child for leftist credentialism. You look at her resume, she looks very impressive. You hear her talk, you know it was all given her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 02:39 PM (El6/E)

10 USA USA

Posted by: doug at March 31, 2026 02:39 PM (Hy+R4)

11 3 Exit NATO and the UN, now!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron


This. Can't come quick enough.

Also, I notice the Straight of Hormuz is shaped somewhat like a cervix.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:39 PM (abIsI)

12 Strait

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:40 PM (abIsI)

13 What happens to Kharg island?
Spoils of war?


They create impossible standards in terms of:
-Zero Casualties
-Zero Economic Disruption
-Zero Uncertainty
-Zero Time to Accomplish the Mission
-Zero Collateral Damage

The DisneyChannel guide to warfare.

Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 02:40 PM (Sco7b)

14 Europe is the pasty, fat man-child living in his parent's basement playing videogames.

Kicking him out is the best thing that could happen to him, but he doesn't even know how to do laundry. It's going to be ugly for a while.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (N1DT3)

15 Spain, France and Italy have already signalled they aren't interested in a NATO that helps the US, just the other way around.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (skSAB)

16 Also, I notice the Straight of Hormuz is shaped somewhat like a cervix.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:39 PM (abIsI)

Quite appropriate since its getting pounded.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (N39Ws)

17 All these soy-soaked soft-as-Charmin Eurofags can suck it.

Build yourselves a functioning Navy and go secure your own rights of navigation on the world's oceans, bunch of pussies.

Fucking ingrates have spent 80 years punching out from behind our apron. Time to go confront the bullies yourselves.

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (oqH4h)

18 CNN panel just got absolutely DESTROYED

It was terrible, chunks were everywhere, it looked like a Doom demon you shot with the rocket launcher. The walls were coated with blood and viscera, an eyeball hit the camera lens.

Seriously though, this kind of reminds me of when SNL was still somewhat funny, and they ran a bit during Desert Storm in which they had Bush do a speech, but in a Middle Eastern, dramatic style. It was pretty funny, then they cut to an Iraqi government official who was impressed and liked it.

Trump is speaking a language they understand and resonate with. The pearl-clutching left is horrified with it, but this is what that culture gets and resonates with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (El6/E)

19 I used to worry that Europe would be taken over by Russia with NATO. Now I don't care if it is or isn't, and anyway, Europe is choosing Soviet Communism on its own without Russia tanks compelling it to.


Hell, The Europeans are going full-on communist. Russia may be authoritarian but I think they've gotten rid of the communist bug. AND they're resisting the Muslim invasion too.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (KH0i+)

20 Abby Phillip real woman of genius

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (19SAM)

21 One of the analysis of the recent blockage was not that Iran had the reach to kill tankers, as much as Lloyds of London and the other major insurance players were getting their threat assessments from information leaked from "Five Eyes" assessments, and when MI6 was left out of the discussion about what Trump was doing with the Navy, they had no way of determining how to judge the risk and cancelled all insurance in the area.
This stopped all transiting, because no tanker is going to move anywhere without insurance.

Now whether this was on purpose or not, is up for question.

Dr Robert Malone discusses Maritime insurance and the roots of Lloyd's of London

"Control insurance and you control trade.
85% of the world’s trade moves by sea and nearly half of it is insured through the London market."


https://www.malone.news/p/dire-straits-part-2

Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe! at March 31, 2026 02:42 PM (rbvCR)

22 Also, I notice the Straight of Hormuz is shaped somewhat like a cervix.

Hold on, what?

Posted by: Gary Johnston at March 31, 2026 02:42 PM (EXyHK)

23
Trump should demand reparations from Europe, Russia, and Ukraine.

Posted by: Auspex at March 31, 2026 02:42 PM (Y8DZL)

24 Of course Abby Phillips interrupted the guy praising Trump. “Do you think that’s really true…” because, essentially, he’s confused Abby and the rest of the. MSM.

Why bring on guests, Abby, if it’s really about your opinions?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2026 02:42 PM (4KUe5)

25 16 Also, I notice the Straight of Hormuz is shaped somewhat like a cervix.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:39 PM (abIsI)
------
It was just called the Strait of Muz until your mom sailed through it.

ba dum tiss

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 02:42 PM (oqH4h)

26 15 Spain, France and Italy have already signalled they aren't interested in a NATO that helps the US, just the other way around.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:41 PM (skSAB)

Add the UK as well. And Sweden, Germany, Austria. Their weakness is Islam's opportunity for a near bloodless conquering.

We'll be going back - a modern day Crusades. Except this time I hope our leaders make these countries our territories.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 31, 2026 02:43 PM (N39Ws)

27 And Trump is also shifting the Overton Window on the NATO alliance -- and I have shifted with him.

https://youtu.be/9OpIbiFmY60

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 02:44 PM (ExV1e)

28 Crap, I thought all we had to worry about was our crumbly infrastructure that was built in the middle ages.
Damn Trump!

Posted by: Londoner at March 31, 2026 02:44 PM (abIsI)

29 "Today Trump is telling Britain to go grab it themselves like it's a parking spot."

NAH. He's telling Britain to grab the strait LIKE IT'S A PUSSY.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 02:44 PM (iFTx/)

30 After President Trump annexes Greenland, europe will be renamed "Cuckoldia".

Posted by: World Atlas at March 31, 2026 02:44 PM (/1l9x)

31 NATO is like your twenty-something refusing to move out, living in a state of quasi-socialism they would never be able to afford on their own.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 31, 2026 02:44 PM (CwhoI)

32 Hi morons. Good to be back.

Been trying to catch up on all the terrific news of the last couple of weeks. Never thought I would be alive to see such an incredible transformation across all aspects of our country. God bless President Trump, his family, and all those who were willing to risk it all and work with him to save America. The Golden Era is upon us.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at March 31, 2026 02:44 PM (3ImbR)

33 Why bring on guests, Abby, if it’s really about your opinions?

Guests on CNN are not there to share their opinion, they are there to share the CNN official opinion, in the guest's voice.

Its like the old joke about women: when a woman asks her husband his opinion they don't want his opinion. They want their opinion, repeated, in a deeper voice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 02:45 PM (El6/E)

34
It is the best of times. It is the worst of times.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 31, 2026 02:45 PM (VWtfl)

35 We'll be going back - a modern day Crusades. Except this time I hope our leaders make these countries our territories.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


This time we'd better not care which side they're on.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2026 02:45 PM (9E5Ho)

36 Yes, Lloyds is who controls tanker and bulk carrier traffic. They used leaked UK classified information to set insurance rates, and those days may be coming to an end.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:45 PM (skSAB)

37 NATO is like your twenty-something refusing to move out, living in a state of quasi-socialism they would never be able to afford on their own

And its still falling apart, so badly that they are resorting to murdering their own people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 02:46 PM (El6/E)

38 Anyone with courage can have it.

Well, that most certainly won't be the UK.
They recently pretty much ceded the Strait of Gibraltar to Spain by giving them control of the border.

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 02:46 PM (RHGPo)

39 It's a damn good thing we don't live in a global economy where Europe's economic health has effects of America's.

No, we live in a world where America wins when Europe gets poorer. Thank God!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:46 PM (+DwtS)

40 Unclog the Persian Gulf.

You can't beat a Strait flush!

Posted by: muldoon at March 31, 2026 02:47 PM (qgHp7)

41 the Supreme Leader is gone...and his replacement is s vegetable

------

Gay vegetable. Huge queer. Loves the cock.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 02:47 PM (BI5O2)

42 Is it safe to assume that the European attitude is, in part, due to Islamist infiltration?
Their own new citizens and their children side with Iran.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2026 02:47 PM (4KUe5)

43 Yes, Lloyds is who controls tanker and bulk carrier traffic. They used leaked UK classified information to set insurance rates, and those days may be coming to an end.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:45 PM (skSAB)


If only there were someone with deep pockets who could act as a counterbalance against Lloyds.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 02:48 PM (ExV1e)

44 🚨 HOLY SMOKES. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte just dropped MAJOR TRUTH NUKES on Europe, siding with Trump and saying they NEED America to survive

"If anyone thinks here that the European Union or Europe can defend itself without the US, KEEP ON DREAMING! YOU CAN'T! We can't!"

"Europe — if you REALLY want to go it alone, and those of you who are planning for that, FORGET that you can ever get there with 5% [GDP for defense spending]. It will be 10%! You have to build up your own nuclear capability!"

"That costs billions and billions of euros. You will lose them. In that scenario, you would lose the ultimate guarantor of our freedom, which is the U.S. nuclear umbrella. So, hey, good luck!" 😭

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 02:48 PM (RHGPo)

45 "BREAKING: Huge uplift in vessel traffic through the Strait of Hormuz today.

The regime has lost control."

Lol this is such horseshit. Iran is letting ships from friendly countries through. They're not trying to block all traffic. Only their enemies.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:48 PM (+DwtS)

46 NATO is 30 years past its expiration date.

Posted by: Heroq at March 31, 2026 02:48 PM (tZs6V)

47 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

*********

Nice to see you commenting. I thought you might have been having a stroke...

Posted by: muldoon at March 31, 2026 02:49 PM (qgHp7)

48 I used to worry that Europe would be taken over by Russia with NATO. Now I don't care if it is or isn't, and anyway, Europe is choosing Soviet Communism on its own without Russia tanks compelling it to.


Europe is on their own.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2026 02:49 PM (9E5Ho)

49
Pretty much every moron here would be in jail over the content of their posts if AOS was European social media.

Posted by: Auspex at March 31, 2026 02:49 PM (Y8DZL)

50 The new world order sounds a lot like the old world order.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at March 31, 2026 02:49 PM (sX1BW)

51 41 the Supreme Leader is gone...and his replacement is s vegetable

------

Gay vegetable. Huge queer. Loves the cock.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 02:47 PM (BI5O2)

Watched Tousi and he showed how they were putting up posters of the gay Dear leader with a rainbow flag in the background in Tehran

Posted by: It's me donna at March 31, 2026 02:49 PM (kamC8)

52 I bet Navarro was really missing her nail file when that Iranian was setting her straight. I wonder if the suits told her she couldn't have it on set any more after the way she acted last time someone tried to explain reality to her.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 31, 2026 02:50 PM (lFFaq)

53 Well, that most certainly won't be the UK.
They recently pretty much ceded the Strait of Gibraltar to Spain by giving them control of the border.
Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 02:46 PM (RHGPo)
---
Spain will cede control to their Muslim conquerors/overlords.

Will they close the Strait of Gibraltar?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 31, 2026 02:50 PM (ESVrU)

54 We need maybe one large air/navy base in Europe. Sign a mutual protection agreement with that nation, and the others can figure it out.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 31, 2026 02:50 PM (wrEn7)

55 5 >>> I’ll go nood
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 31, 2026 02:33 PM (SlGTd)

=====

Crap. Phrasing. I forgot my wife said I was never allowed to again.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 31, 2026 02:37 PM (SlGTd)

Wait, your wife wants you to never be nood? You sir a lucky man!

Posted by: Dr. Tobias Funke at March 31, 2026 02:50 PM (qivay)

56 I doubt this will be enough of a wake up call.

It should be... We just proved we actually don't need them.....


Let's (FTSOA) assume they saw the error of their ways and decided they really needed to up their military game. How would they? They lack the MIC base to do much, and what they can do will take a long time. I doubt they'd have serious militaries in under a decade.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (Riz8t)

57 NATO Secretary General, to NATO:

"If anyone here thinks that the EU or Europe can defend itself without the US, keep on dreaming. You can't. We can't."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (FmapG)

58 44 🚨 HOLY SMOKES. NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte just dropped MAJOR TRUTH NUKES on Europe, siding with Trump and saying they NEED America to survive

He's a Trump fan... And right...

Posted by: It's me donna at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (kamC8)

59 If only there were someone with deep pockets who could act as a counterbalance against Lloyds.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


A couple of weeks ago, Bessent implied the US might provide insurance for a reasonable fee.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (skSAB)

60 "Lead, follow, or get out the way."
I didn't exactly do much to help, being basically a middle aged shut-in, but at least I was able to troll antisemites and retards on /pol/.
You're welcome for my service.
I suggest to Owens, Kent, Floyd and those following them to quit being retarded.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (gKWVE)

61 41 the Supreme Leader is gone...and his replacement is s vegetable

------

Gay vegetable. Huge queer. Loves the cock.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 02:47 PM (BI5O2)

Western gay pride gear will be a rare and valuable bargaining chip.

Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (Sco7b)

62 Yes, Lloyds is who controls tanker and bulk carrier traffic. They used leaked UK classified information to set insurance rates, and those days may be coming to an end.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:45 PM (skSAB)

If only there were someone with deep pockets who could act as a counterbalance against Lloyds.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 02:48 PM (ExV1e)
______

There is. Lloyd's is still a major player, but it's market dominance is not nearly what it used to be. Big players from other countries (USA, Germany, Korea, etc) have jumped in the game and are seizing market share. Hartford in CT and NYC might have more total market share than Lloyd's right now.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (iFTx/)

63 That straight is kind of a slut what with all the seamen who pass through her.

Posted by: John Moses Browning at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (zZu0s)

64 haped somewhat like a cervix.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Or a colon...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (RDqo2)

65 NATO countries will just wait it out, for a weak Dem to win in 2028, and they will be back to usual.

Posted by: Joemarine at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (y171U)

66 NATO is a defensive alliance. It's not a branch of the U.S. military and it's not designed as a global rapid reaction force. It has never been understood to be able to go on offense, and back when Obama and Hillary used it offensively you people understood that.

NATO doesn't exist to serve the interests of Lindsey Graham and the Neocons.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (+DwtS)

67 If only there were someone with deep pockets who could act as a counterbalance against Lloyds.

==

Should not be hard.

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (GD0B3)

68 If only there were someone with deep pockets who could act as a counterbalance against Lloyds.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

A couple of weeks ago, Bessent implied the US might provide insurance for a reasonable fee.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (skSAB)


You don't say. Gosh, I wonder what sort of impact that would have on the UK economy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (ExV1e)

69 Whose gayer, Australia and their ballsack New Zealand, or the UK?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (abIsI)

70 LLoyds is not all that.

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (GD0B3)

71 Sooo…Kristi Noem’s husband is cross dressing freak. Wow. This is so amazingly embarrassing and degrading.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (OoFl2)

72 Pretty much every moron here would be in jail over the content of their posts if AOS was European social media.

Posted by: Auspex



Here's the door mat I want:

https://tinyurl.com/3m4zt5td

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (9E5Ho)

73 The new world order sounds a lot like the old world order.

"YYYYYYYEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!"
--Roger Daltrey

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (El6/E)

74 These chickenshit countries won't support the US because Iran is a Muslim country, and their governments are all deathly afraid of the Islamic populations they allowed in getting all riot-y.

The nations of Central and Eastern Europe-Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic-they get it. Let's just have an alliance with them and the rest of the continent can go screw.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (4MsaP)

75 I wonder...is this also laying the groundwork for a...vigorous and forceful settling of domestic affairs, as well?

Remember: Ceasar pacified the barbarians...got stabbed in the back in rome...and thus we got Augustus.

History may not repeat, but boy oh boy, does it like re-using patterns.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (OUMaO)

76
No, we live in a world where America wins when Europe gets poorer. Thank God!
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:

Thank G-d everything is just about trade relations to the exclusion of everything else, and America also magically gets fabulously rich by unilaterally agreeing to preferential trade deals for Europeans, and bankrolling their entire defense, and risking my kid's scalp for their fruity globalist power plays in the East, while receiving absolutely nothing in return aside from nail-spitting hatred from these has-been, clapped-out whore "countries."

Thank G-d for all that.

*makes wanking motion*

Take that shit back to 1991, my dude. It's starting to stink up the joint.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (BI5O2)

77 Western gay pride gear will be a rare and valuable bargaining chip.
Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 02:51 PM (Sco7b)
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We should coordinate with the LAPD and ship him some of Diddy's confiscated baby oil stash.

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (oqH4h)

78 https://tinyurl.com/3mm8vtvx

Link. Pics are no bueno.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (OoFl2)

79 49
Pretty much every moron here would be in jail over the content of their posts if AOS was European social media.

Posted by: Auspex at March 31, 2026 02:49 PM (Y8DZL)

I have some forbidden memes for sale to the europeans

Posted by: Desinex at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (jrgJz)

80 Build the canal across the base of the peninsula. It's been studied and the projected cost is about 80 billion.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM (XvL8K)

81 The new world order sounds a lot like the old world order.

"YYYYYYYEEAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!"
--Roger Daltrey

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

------------

A song that only improves with age.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM (sX1BW)

82 I still do not get how Iran is doing this shit when their military has supposedly been annihilated.

Posted by: Heroq at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM (tZs6V)

83 NATO doesn't exist to serve the interests of Lindsey Graham and the Neocons.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (+DwtS)


So it doesn't exist to serve the interests of Ursula Von der Leyen, or Emmanuel Macron either?
Just checking here. As the Bobs would say, "what is its purpose, anyways?"

Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe! at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM (rbvCR)

84 To be fair, if say England, cannot get their tankers through because Iran is shooting at them then thst is between England and Iran.
FFS - Recognize that the asshoes in charge in Iran are terrorists shooting at ships that have nothing to do with the war. Yes, they are threateni.g your shit if you do not take theirside. And yes, they really believe this is ggod and proper.

Posted by: Operator Error at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM (q4fV5)

85 I like the part of this war where Neocons are so unhinged in their hatred of Europe that they're willing to end this war with the mullahs in power AND give Iran the ability to raise money by taxing traffic in the Strait of Hormuz just to teach Austria a lesson, specifically "get a bigger navy."

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM (+DwtS)

86 It turns out the whole Iran conflict is a loyalty test for the Europeans and everybody failed. 😂

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM (RHGPo)

87 64 haped somewhat like a cervix.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Or a colon...


comma chameleon > colon chameleon

Posted by: anachronda at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM (oY6Yp)

88 >muh Neocons
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (+DwtS)

Nobody here gives a shit about "neocons". How "neo" are they anyway? 1983?
We believe it is in the US interest that the West include Iran, rather than allow some primitive apocalyptic cult who watch too much bad sci-fi to control the "spice".

Posted by: gKWVE at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM (gKWVE)

89 83 As the Bobs would say, "what is its purpose, anyways?"
Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe!
_______

To deter Russian aggression in Europe.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM (+DwtS)

90 comma chameleon > colon chameleon
Posted by: anachronda


Come & go, come & go

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (9E5Ho)

91
Awwww, did Mean Old Daddy Orange Hair just nail down your plates and tell you to get out and fend for yourselves?

You poor babies!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (xG4kz)

92 Suck it, Euros.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (TKBaI)

93 NATO is a defensive alliance. It's not a branch of the U.S. military and it's not designed as a global rapid reaction force. It has never been understood to be able to go on offense, and back when Obama and Hillary used it offensively you people understood that.

When the countries of Old Europe refuse even things like overflight, it's not a question of offense, it's a question of doing the absolute minimum not to actively hinder the people who can do the things that need doing (us). If the Eurowusses won't even do that, then in what sense do we have an alliance?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (Riz8t)

94 88
We believe it is in the US interest that the West include Iran, rather than allow some primitive apocalyptic cult who watch too much bad sci-fi to control the "spice".
Posted by: gKWVE at
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I'm sure that made sense in your head before you wrote it.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (+DwtS)

95 Also, I notice the Straight of Hormuz is shaped somewhat like a cervix.

*********

On a clear day you can see all the way across it. You gotta love a womb with a view!

Posted by: muldoon at March 31, 2026 02:57 PM (qgHp7)

96
It's available real estate. It's takeable. Anyone with courage can have it.

in addition to the straights of hormuz, other "takeable" available real estate includes, but not limited to:

-Mars
-the Moon
-Greenland
-Alberta
-Cuba

LFG! plant The Flag!

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 31, 2026 02:57 PM (tljrc)

97 93 When the countries of Old Europe refuse even things like overflight, it's not a question of offense, it's a question of doing the absolute minimum not to actively hinder the people who can do the things that need doing (us). If the Eurowusses won't even do that, then in what sense do we have an alliance?
Posted by: Archimedes
______
Don't pretend the issue is overflights. You're pissed that they won't join the shooting part of this dumbass war

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (+DwtS)

98 This framing leads to some desired outcomes either way.

If those countries do build up the courage, it really moves the overton window that countries can do what they need to in their best interest. You took oil. We are taking Iceland.

If they don't. Then you aren't with us. That doesn't make us enemies, but it doesn't make us friends. Clarity.

When you do need things from us, they come with a price because we are no longer friends.

There is still the downside risk of getting bogged down. But if we take things for us, that helps a lot. And this framing basically says we get to take things.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (sX1BW)

99 Awwww, did Mean Old Daddy Orange Hair just nail down your plates and tell you to get out and fend for yourselves?

You poor babies!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (xG4kz)

I voted for this.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (TKBaI)

100 Blasting Iran back to the 70s is the best thing to happen in decades (after PDT getting elected three times, of course).

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (ufFY8)

101 To deter Russian aggression in Europe.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM (+DwtS)


Oh, goody. I think you made a mistake, it was to deter Soviet aggression in Europe.
If you think the Russian Federation is the USSR, then sadly you are the neocon you despise.

Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe! at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (rbvCR)

102 I thought Trump was planning to offer the insurance, replacing Lloyds.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (vbXSk)

103
You're next, Kip's Bay!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 31, 2026 02:59 PM (xG4kz)

104 The purpose of NATO was to prevent Soviet aggression. Islamic aggression is far more dangerous today that Russian aggression.

Posted by: Open Channel D at March 31, 2026 02:59 PM (gYnrv)

105 If the Eurowusses won't even do that, then in what sense do we have an alliance?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 02:56 PM (Riz8t)

1) We fund, provide, and ensure their security.
2) Because of that, they can fund their endless welfare programs while condemning and hindering us at every opportunity.

That's it. That's the alliance.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at March 31, 2026 02:59 PM (FmapG)

106 Nancy Pelosi said Trump and the Republicans may try to hack the voting machines and steal the midterms by altering the vote count.

“We always have concerns, but with this president and the Republicans who have no commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way- we’re ready,” Pelosi said.

She continued, “We have to make sure the elections are safe…. We have to be on guard as to what [the Republicans] may try to do to the technology. They may try to creep into the technology and create a false count,” Pelosi said.

... I was told that this is impossible .. by Democrats

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 02:59 PM (RHGPo)

107 Soon the UK will be burning furniture and hobos for heat.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:59 PM (abIsI)

108 So has Masturbatin Pete properly registered under FARA or is he carrying Iran's heavy water for free as a mere sympathizer?

Posted by: Mostly rhetorical. Mostly. at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (TbWk/)

109 >>NATO doesn't exist to serve the interests of Lindsey Graham and the Neocons.

So you're saying we can stop pouring billions into Ukraine?

Whether you like it or not we've been acting as Europe's security blanket for generations. NATO was just one aspect. And they've repaid us by never fully funding their NATO commitments, allowing their militaries to wither and basically becoming passive assuming we will always be there to protect them and fight their battles.

The hell with fighting for us, they wouldn't even let us use their airspace or our bases on their soil that we pay for and act as a deterrent for them. Maybe you are comfortable with that arrangement but most of us are not. It has nothing to do with being a neocon. It has to do with putting the interests of America first.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (viF8m)

110 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)

111 69 Whose gayer, Australia and their ballsack New Zealand, or the UK?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (abIsI)

Canada was pretty draconian over Covid too and I still want 80% of the country to just die, but New Zealand seemed to be the biggest shithole.

The CBC this morning did outline what it would take to take Kharg Island. Missiles and drones would be Iran's retaliation.

For what it's worth. The CBC....

Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (Sco7b)

112 We are taking Iceland.

Greenland =/= Iceland.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (ExV1e)

113
Build the canal across the base of the peninsula. It's been studied and the projected cost is about 80 billion.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 31, 2026 02:54 PM


second look at Project Plowshare?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (tljrc)

114 Don't pretend the issue is overflights. You're pissed that they won't join the shooting part of this dumbass war

Howzabout you answer the question instead of doing your Amazing Kreskin routine.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (Riz8t)

115 US out of the UN out of the US! NOW!!!!


Common sense UN GTFO NOW!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:00 PM (Zz0t1)

116 When Trump tells the UK to "go to the Strait and just TAKE IT," the surface read is that he's venting at allies who didn't show up.

But the deeper move is priming the the public (and world) with a new mental frame: the Strait of Hormuz is not Iranian sovereign territory anymore.


Actually, I think it might be shallower than that. Trump follows social media closely. A lot of right-wing commentators and such have adopted the phrase "we can just do things" to excuse/encourage the president to act, often unilaterally. I assume he, or his advisors like Miller, see that, like the sound of it, and are kind of echoing the sentiment.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (JCZqz)

117 104 The purpose of NATO was to prevent Soviet aggression. Islamic aggression is far more dangerous today that Russian aggression.
Posted by: Open Channel D
_____

If Islam has attacked a NATO country, invoke Article 5. Simple as.

Until we're willing to do that, we needn't be taken seriously on our talk of threats.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (+DwtS)

118
Out: Strait of Hormuz
In: George Strait

Posted by: YIKES! at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (OgWfa)

119 You see, the defeat of Russia has been a long project for the Brits and the monied anglophile east coast elites that started before Stalin was born, and is ongoing today.
It is run for and by the neocons and allied Fabians, and other technocrats.

Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe! at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (rbvCR)

120
I voted for this.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demo


Ditto

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (xG4kz)

121
If Islam has attacked a NATO country, invoke Article 5. Simple as.

Until we're willing to do that, we needn't be taken seriously on our talk of threats.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (+DwtS)


Iran did... They hit Turkey

Posted by: It's me donna at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (kamC8)

122 The purpose of NATO was to prevent Soviet aggression. Islamic aggression is far more dangerous today that Russian aggression.
Posted by: Open Channel D at March 31, 2026 02:59 PM (gYnrv)

Their aggression is far more dangerous via immigration and colonization than military. NATO won’t stop that.

Posted by: Heroq at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (tZs6V)

123 114 Don't pretend the issue is overflights. You're pissed that they won't join the shooting part of this dumbass war

Howzabout you answer the question instead of doing your Amazing Kreskin routine.
Posted by: Archimedes
________

What's the question? I'm dealing with several Neocons who learned nothing in the past 25 years. You're not the only one. Please restate your question.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (+DwtS)

124 112 We are taking Iceland.

Greenland =/= Iceland.
Posted by: I used to have a different ni

Yours isn't the only nation with sonic weapons.

Posted by: Björk at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (JCZqz)

125 Don't pretend the issue is overflights. You're pissed that they won't join the shooting part of this dumbass war
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (+DwtS)

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This isn't a WAR. Stop parroting lib talking points.

Posted by: Diabeetus at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (SlrUo)

126 If Islam has attacked a NATO country, invoke Article 5. Simple as.

Until we're willing to do that, we needn't be taken seriously on our talk of threats.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (+DwtS)

You mean like Turkey?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider: Gotterdammerung at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (FmapG)

127 Until we're willing to do that, we needn't be taken seriously on our talk of threats.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (+DwtS)


neocon

Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe! at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (rbvCR)

128 I see someone has been taking some pretty mighty bong rips already today.

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (oqH4h)

129 “We always have concerns, but with this president and the Republicans who have no commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way- we’re ready,” Pelosi said.

She continued, “We have to make sure the elections are safe…. We have to be on guard as to what [the Republicans] may try to do to the technology. They may try to creep into the technology and create a false count,” Pelosi said.

By God, you're r9ight, Nancy! Let's make sure he can't steal it by having voter ID and ensuring everyone's a citizen!
We can do this, Nan!

Posted by: MkY at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (q6tQZ)

130 Don't pretend the issue is overflights. You're pissed that they won't join the shooting part of this dumbass war

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (+DwtS)

Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (TKBaI)

131 I do feel sorry for the eastern European countries, like Poland and the Baltic states that refused to allow unlimited migration and are aligned with our values.

Posted by: kraki at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (cG6Xc)

132 Yea, we should've waited for Iran to get nukes and then let them attack us and then we could claim Article 5 while we cleaned up the nuclear fallout.

That's some serious forward thinking.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (viF8m)

133 >>>Did Trump manage to open the Strait of America?

If we rename all the waterways of the world after America, it's going to be tough to tell them all apart.

One of those good problems, I suppose.

Posted by: No Name Today at March 31, 2026 03:04 PM (8mulE)

134 121
If Islam has attacked a NATO country, invoke Article 5. Simple as.

Until we're willing to do that, we needn't be taken seriously on our talk of threats.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (+DwtS)


Iran did... They hit Turkey
Posted by: It's me donna
_______

Turkey shouldn't be in NATO, but a deal's a deal. Invoke Article 5.

Shit or get off the pot.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:04 PM (+DwtS)

135 Strait of America!
Kharg-a-Lago!

Posted by: Shoefly the Boxing Mule at March 31, 2026 03:04 PM (ufJfM)

136
What's the question? I'm dealing with several Neocons who learned nothing in the past 25 years. You're not the only one. Please restate your question.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:02 PM (+DwtS)



We're all stoopid and youz SMAHT.

Got it.

Kan I haz ice kreem now?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

137 neoCOHHHNNNNN!!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Tiberius at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (gKWVE)

138 Europe doesn't need oil and gas. England and Germany can build more solar and wind power!!!

Posted by: Greta Thunberg at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (JCZqz)

139 FYI Pete the "neocon" view is that of nation-building and the cockamamie idea that just because we roll in and take over that some backassward shithole will suddenly become a Western pluralistic democracy and a valuable trading partner.

It would also include the view that NATO is still useful, 40 years after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (oqH4h)

140 This isn't responsible skepticism
=====

No, it's America Last propaganda.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (RIvkX)

141 132 Yea, we should've waited for Iran to get nukes and then let them attack us and then we could claim Article 5 while we cleaned up the nuclear fallout.

That's some serious forward thinking.
Posted by: JackStraw
_____

Weird, Trump told us back in June that Iran's nuclear program had been totally obliterated. His words.

And yet they got it back in nine months? That's what you believe?

Do you think that maybe Trump wasn't being straight with us?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (+DwtS)

142 I do feel sorry for the eastern European countries, like Poland and the Baltic states that refused to allow unlimited migration and are aligned with our values.
Posted by: kraki at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (cG6Xc)


We could consider bi-lateral arrangements with them. Huge multi-national treaty organizations are always held captive by the weakest link.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (ExV1e)

143 https://tinyurl.com/3mm8vtvx

Link. Pics are no bueno.


Jeebus. Freaks everywhere. Not sure that I buy her "I had no clue" line. I don't think you can hide that kind of stuff from your wife if you're putting it out on the internet.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:06 PM (sKqX+)

144 We're all stoopid and youz SMAHT.

Got it.

Kan I haz ice kreem now?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

Look, fat, you'll get chocolate chocolate chip and you'll like it or I'll wrap this three feet of chain around your head!

Posted by: Fightin' Joe Biden at March 31, 2026 03:06 PM (TbWk/)

145 I do feel sorry for the eastern European countries, like Poland and the Baltic states that refused to allow unlimited migration and are aligned with our values.
Posted by: kraki at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (cG6Xc)


They can pretty much walk away when they feel like it, they have enough of a military to turn back the Germans' tank brigades, should the Germans ever decide to build more tanks.

Posted by: Kindltot - Free Harambe! at March 31, 2026 03:06 PM (rbvCR)

146 NATO doesn't exist to serve the interests of Lindsey Graham and the Neocons.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

Agreed.

But denying air space or landing rights isn't the same thing.

Did they do any of that during Obamas Libya campaign?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (yFlgz)

147 132 Yea, we should've waited for Iran to get nukes and then let them attack us and then we could claim Article 5 while we cleaned up the nuclear fallout.

That's some serious forward thinking.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:03 PM (viF8m)

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Trump got rid of Iran's nukes back in June of 2025. This action is about bringing freedom to the Persian people, helping Israel, and ensuring oil flows freely through the straits of Hormuz.

Posted by: Diabeetus at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (SlrUo)

148 Pete, if they were neocons they would be salivating over Ukraine. My only complaint about Iran is that the leadership should have been decapitated years ago.

Posted by: Open Channel D at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (gYnrv)

149 I do have questions about how it got past the FBI vetting process though.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (sKqX+)

150 139 FYI Pete the "neocon" view is that of nation-building and the cockamamie idea that just because we roll in and take over that some backassward shithole will suddenly become a Western pluralistic democracy and a valuable trading partner.

It would also include the view that NATO is still useful, 40 years after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Posted by: ballistic
_______

Well if it's not the Neocon view then it's the Clinton circa 1999 view, where we bomb and bomb and bomb because Iraq has WMDs but it accomplishes nothing.

At least Clinton didn't cause a global economic crisis in the prices.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (+DwtS)

151 NATO doesn't exist to serve the interests of Lindsey Graham and the Neocons.

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Yeah, absolutely nothing has happened in Eastern Europe over the last several years to make me doubt the sincerity of someone who says that.

But I'm sure it made sense in your head before you said it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 03:08 PM (BI5O2)

152 But will it hold if we lose congress or a demon wins the next presidential election???
Or will they just reverse everything good that's happening and hand everything back????
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2026 03:08 PM (VCgbV)

153 141 132 Yea, we should've waited for Iran to get nukes and then let them attack us and then we could claim Article 5 while we cleaned up the nuclear fallout.

That's some serious forward thinking.
Posted by: JackStraw
_____

Weird, Trump told us back in June that Iran's nuclear program had been totally obliterated. His words.

And yet they got it back in nine months? That's what you believe?

Do you think that maybe Trump wasn't being straight with us?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (+DwtS)

So what's your argument for waiting until it is difficult to deal with Iran instead of breaking them down when it's easy?

Eventually Chinese air defense will be worth a damn.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:08 PM (okun6)

154 107 Soon the UK will be burning furniture and hobos for heat.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Furniture for fuel, hobos for meat.

Hasn't Ace taught you anything?

Posted by: Auspex at March 31, 2026 03:08 PM (Y8DZL)

155 Beach towel, 2 liter bottle for thirst, 2 liter bottle for pee, huge bag of Cheetos, let the wisdom flow, progressives!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at March 31, 2026 03:08 PM (YlWIZ)

156 I do have questions about how it got past the FBI vetting process though.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (sKqX+)


The Biden FBI? The FBI which was probably salivating at the idea of releasing the information at a moment of greatest damage? That FBI?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 31, 2026 03:09 PM (ExV1e)

157 147
Trump got rid of Iran's nukes back in June of 2025. This action is about bringing freedom to the Persian people, helping Israel, and ensuring oil flows freely through the straits of Hormuz.
Posted by: Diabeetus
________

Lol try to keep up with the news. Literally the opposite of all of those things is happening:
-no regime change
-no oil getting through without a Mullah Tax

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:09 PM (+DwtS)

158 Well having seen the pic of Noem's husband I think I can safely say that I don't blame her for her "alleged" relationship with Lewandowski.

Also I need six gallons of eye bleach.

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 03:09 PM (oqH4h)

159 Cause the closure of the strait for everyone else and then also tell everyone else to open it themselves. Yes, push Europe and the rest of the world more in China’s hands. Witnessing the erosion of American hegemony in the past 6 months has been crazy.

We’re a net exporter but this will drive the prices of oil up both at home as well. Not exactly the way I envisioned our “green future” but if it works it works. Electric cars are superior in almost every category. I welcome the change.

I like Trump, the more he stay in power the more unified EU becomes, the dude did more for EU unity than anyone in last 20 years. I would like for Trump to go for third term. European return to be one of the big players has a nice ring to it

People need to wake up and accept that NATO is dead. This moron has destroyed the US-European alliance, repeatedly stated America does not have Europe's back anymore. Time to create something new and more reliable.

He's really pissed off that our (UK) navy and other European navies haven't sailed 4000 miles away from protecting Greenland.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (JCZqz)

160 Wanting out of nato is now America Last? Man how the time have changed.

Posted by: Heroq at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (tZs6V)

161 143 https://tinyurl.com/3mm8vtvx

Link. Pics are no bueno.

Jeebus. Freaks everywhere. Not sure that I buy her "I had no clue" line. I don't think you can hide that kind of stuff from your wife if you're putting it out on the internet.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:06 PM (sKqX+)

Talk about a warchest.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (N39Ws)

162
At least Clinton didn't cause a global economic crisis in the prices.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:07 PM (+DwtS)

Oil prices were at these level throughout most of Obama. Hardly economic crisis levels.

They were also higher during Russia's initial invasion of Ukraine, which saw no actual long-term disruption to oil supply.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (okun6)

163 A long time ago I read a book about "the Yankee-Cowboy war". Two foreign policy outlooks. One centered on Europe and the other on Asia. They tended to be East coast=Yankee, West coast +Texas=Cowboy. Trump may be from the East coast but his policies are Cowboy and they are a winning hand.

Posted by: geoffb at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (r//c2)

164 Piper at March 31, 2026 02:53 PM (OoFl2

Holy shit! Was not on my bingo card!

Posted by: Derak at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (3DHvS)

165 I told Mrs. Cop a couple of weeks ago that U.S. forces were going to secure the Strait of Hormuz America, and Pres. Trump was going to make the rest of the world pay an extra 10% for their oil. It looks like he's just about ready to spring the trap.

Dude is a force of nature.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (ksbjf)

166 Eventually Chinese air defense will be worth a damn.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:08 PM (okun6)
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Assumes facts not in evidence lol

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (oqH4h)

167 Question for the Horde:

If you can punish Europe for being Euroweenies, but the method of punishment is that they have to pay a tax to the mullahs in Iran, do you take that deal?

Because that's the deal Trump is giving you. The mullahs stay in power and tax cargo traffic.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (+DwtS)

168 Turkey was the first one to not allow over flights back during Iraq.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 31, 2026 03:11 PM (wBaIH)

169 Lol try to keep up with the news. Literally the opposite of all of those things is happening:
-no regime change
-no oil getting through without a Mullah Tax
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:09 PM (+DwtS)



I guess you don't read the content before you start flinging poo all over the place.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

170 I'm not sure how the Baltics got on the right side of immigration. Maybe they all they needed to do was pawn Kaja Kallas off on the EU. She's a cutie, but she's so dumb, she thinks the Mexican border pays rent.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at March 31, 2026 03:11 PM (2ap+5)

171 >>Weird, Trump told us back in June that Iran's nuclear program had been totally obliterated. His words.

The program was destroyed. But there was confusion over how much of the 60% enriched uranium might have survived the attack. See how that works?

And then when we attempted to negotiate with them the Iranians helpfully told us they still had enough near weapons grade uranium to make 11 nukes and against all international law they were going to make them.

So what should a responsible leader do? Nothing as you propose or stop a country that for 47 years has been at war with us and funding proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah to attack our people and our interests?

I'll take the president who wants to stop religious fanatics who believe their messiah will arrive once they end the world. And if our so called allies, NATO and otherwise, don't want to help then that should be considered for future alliances.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:12 PM (viF8m)

172 https://tinyurl.com/3mm8vtvx

Link. Pics are no bueno.

Jeebus. Freaks everywhere. Not sure that I buy her "I had no clue" line. I don't think you can hide that kind of stuff from your wife if you're putting it out on the internet.

--

Crikey! Something tells me a separate post on this will be forthcoming.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 31, 2026 03:12 PM (qBdHI)

173 Oh, please. Don't pretend the issue for you is overflights, the offensive disposition of NATO forces, or any other factor besides "Trump said X, so I think Y, because orangemanbad."

And this "neocon" tactic you're trying out is passing strange. Nobody but nobody gets rock hard for NATO like a neocon does.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 03:12 PM (BI5O2)

174 There's an economic crisis?
I missed that one...

Posted by: MkY at March 31, 2026 03:13 PM (q6tQZ)

175 John Solomon Name Drops Samantha Power, (Obama, Hillary, and Biden Ally) as a Person of Interest who was running USAID when they discussed funneling hundreds of millions back into Democrat coffers.

Don Jr.
Who on the American side was coordinating this scheme?

Solomon:
We don’t know that yet.. the NSA intercepted only high level Ukrainian Officials discussing it with USAID people working in Kyiv.

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (RHGPo)

176 Yeah, one bloviator thought oil was going to $400 a barrell so theres that

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (YlWIZ)

177 153 So what's your argument for waiting until it is difficult to deal with Iran instead of breaking them down when it's easy?

Eventually Chinese air defense will be worth a damn.
Posted by: Red Turban
_____

My argument is that if we're going to do this war, regime change has to happen. The worst thing that Trump is doing is leaving the mullahs in power. He's gonna TACO, leaving the mullahs in place and giving them control of the strait. And then I'm a couple years we'll be hearing that they've got a nuclear program again

If you're going to take Vienna, take Vienna.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (+DwtS)

178 “If you can punish Europe for being Euroweenies, but the method of punishment is that they have to pay a tax to the mullahs in Iran, do you take that deal?

Because that's the deal Trump is giving you. The mullahs stay in power and tax cargo traffic.”

———-

Lol

That’s what you think is happening?

Posted by: Open Channel D at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (gYnrv)

179 Huh. Did anyone else have the HQ go off line?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (Riz8t)

180 🚨 WHOA: Did Thomas Massie & MTG Admit they're running in 2028? I think so!

Massie: "I hope I don't lose for America's sake, but if I do, I'm going to come down & visit you."

MTG: "I hope you do. Then we'll re-plan how to get this country back on track in a real way, & I bet you we would have 10s of millions of Americans with us."

Neither of them can dance around the topic when asked if they're both running for POTUS/Vice POTUS in 2028. There's no other plan they could be cooking up that would require 10s of millions of Americans being behind them.

What a Joke this ticket would be! One guy is on the verge of getting fired by his district & the other candidate ABANDONED her district when it got too challenging.

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 03:15 PM (RHGPo)

181 There's an economic crisis?
I missed that one...
Posted by: MkY at March 31, 2026 03:13 PM (q6tQZ)



weez all stoopid, yu cee......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

182 When Trump tells the UK to "go to the Strait and just TAKE IT," the surface read is that he's venting at allies who didn't show up.

But the deeper move is priming the the public (and world) with a new mental frame: the Strait of Hormuz is not Iranian sovereign territory anymore.


AKSHUALLY, I think he's also mocking the Euros because he knows that lack the capacity to do anything, even if they wanted to. He's exposing them for the geldings they've become.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:15 PM (Riz8t)

183 Quick.


Name the mullahs that are still alive and in full control of Iran right now.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)

184
I thought Trump was planning to offer the insurance, replacing Lloyds.
Posted by: illiniwek


How about Progressive and GEICO?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2026 03:15 PM (Cqx++)

185 Does Tehran Pete think we're losing?

Posted by: Wally at March 31, 2026 03:16 PM (zG4BR)

186 “Is it a little bit homophobic to focus on the straights of Hormuz rather than the gays of Hormuz?”

No Kings protester, completely serious: “Yes, absolutely, I agree.”

Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2026 03:16 PM (RHGPo)

187 Germany's F126 frigate program is running three to four years late, instead of 2027 looking at 2030 to 2031 of the first 10,500-ton hull. In fact, it is so bad Germany has awarded an emergency contract to the losing contractor for six ships of half that displacement.

But Germany promises their F127 class will be even better.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:16 PM (2GVsD)

188 I love how Pete is using the TACO talking point.

Posted by: Open Channel D at March 31, 2026 03:17 PM (gYnrv)

189
"I LOVE NATO, REGIME CHANGE, AND NATION BUILDING SEXUALLY BUT YOU ARE A NEOCON! DAMN YOU NEOCONS!!!!!"

This is some line of reasoning you've got going there.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 03:17 PM (BI5O2)

190 171 Posted by: JackStraw
________

You're a smart guy.

But the insane thing is that you watched 25 years of U.S. intelligence failures and yet you have all this confidence that uranium is exactly 60% enriched. Who told you that, and why do you believe him?

Did you learn literally nothing at all from Iraq?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:17 PM (+DwtS)

191 Not sure I want to take foreign policy advice from a guy whose first name is "Masturbatin'."

Posted by: Kiss 'N' Jer at March 31, 2026 03:17 PM (2Ez/1)

192 172 https://tinyurl.com/3mm8vtvx
Link. Pics are no bueno


Someone's looking for a teacher's job in Ontario.

Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 03:17 PM (Sco7b)

193 So all of this is the fault of the US and Europe can't get their oil. And if Iran got the bomb, that too would be the fault of the US. Because the US didn't stop them from getting the bomb. So according to Europe no matter what we did or didn't do it's our fault. While they sit on their ass and twiddle their thumbs. Fuck those guys.

Posted by: Case at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (pvf3X)

194 "Kristi Noem’s husband is a secret crossdresser who dons gigantic fake bre*sts and pink hotpants to chat with online f*tish models."

Well, I sure didn't have that on my bingo card.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (RCEd4)

195 What a Joke this ticket would be! One guy is on the verge of getting fired by his district & the other candidate ABANDONED her district when it got too challenging.
Posted by: SMOD at March 31

This would be really, really funny. Except we need to get our comms hot and heavy that neither one is part of our party, we excommunicated them to Siberia.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (OoFl2)

196 Question for the Horde:

If you can punish Europe for being Euroweenies, but the method of punishment is that they have to pay a tax to the mullahs in Iran, do you take that deal?

Because that's the deal Trump is giving you. The mullahs stay in power and tax cargo traffic.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:10 PM (+DwtS)


The mullahs have been shown to not be in charge. It's the IRGC -- in other words, a military dictatorship. The U.S. and Israel are busy killing them and breaking all of their toys. The IRGC is reduced to launching a few missiles and drones, and having random Lt. Colonels talking $h!t on video.

The neighboring Arab states are publicly begging Pres. Trump to topple the Islamic regime in Iran. That's an enormous change in Iran's relationship with the neighboring states.

The Euroweenies are going to pay a tax for the oil, but it's going to be to the U.S.

You probably need to stop playing with your weenie so much.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (ksbjf)

197 188 I love how Pete is using the TACO talking point.
Posted by: Open Channel D
_______

Yes or No: is ending this war without regime change a TACO move?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (+DwtS)

198 I thought Trump was planning to offer the insurance, replacing Lloyds.
------
How about Progressive and GEICO?


Akkkkkshully, that could make a lot of sense. The US offers the primary insurance policy and then offers to split it up among existing companies who are willing to take a piece of the pie but can't handle all of it.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (4pi1M)

199 179 Huh. Did anyone else have the HQ go off line?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (Riz8t

Fine here...

Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (Sco7b)

200 161 143 https://tinyurl.com/3mm8vtvx

Link. Pics are no bueno.
Posted by: Oddbob

Talk about a warchest.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

I'm thinking more "spank bank." 😍

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (JCZqz)

201 masturbatin' manning is disturbingly smooth

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (2ap+5)

202 Huh. Did anyone else have the HQ go off line?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (Riz8t)

No but we have someone going off the rails.

Posted by: An undercover DU wanker perhaps? at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (TbWk/)

203 Over the next 12 years Germany plans to spend 500 billion Euro on infrastructure projects, but 100 billion will go to Green energy initiatives.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (2GVsD)

204 AKSHUALLY, I think he's also mocking the Euros because he knows that lack the capacity to do anything, even if they wanted to. He's exposing them for the geldings they've become.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:15 PM (Riz8t)

This, 100%. They pissed him off, and when Trump gets pissed, he REALLY sticks the knife in on his insults...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (tOcjL)

205 What's the question? I'm dealing with several Neocons who learned nothing in the past 25 years. You're not the only one. Please restate your question.


When the countries of Old Europe refuse even things like overflight, it's not a question of offense, it's a question of doing the absolute minimum not to actively hinder the people who can do the things that need doing (us). If the Eurowusses won't even do that, then in what sense do we have an alliance?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (Riz8t)

206 Yes or No: is ending this war without regime change a TACO move?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

No, because that was never identified as one of the goals of the operation?

Posted by: Military Moron at March 31, 2026 03:20 PM (JCZqz)

207 196
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
________

So it's your position that when this war is over the mullahs won't be in charge?

Will you admit that you were wrong and apologize if they still are?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:20 PM (+DwtS)

208 177 153 So what's your argument for waiting until it is difficult to deal with Iran instead of breaking them down when it's easy?

Eventually Chinese air defense will be worth a damn.
Posted by: Red Turban
_____

My argument is that if we're going to do this war, regime change has to happen. The worst thing that Trump is doing is leaving the mullahs in power. He's gonna TACO, leaving the mullahs in place and giving them control of the strait. And then I'm a couple years we'll be hearing that they've got a nuclear program again

If you're going to take Vienna, take Vienna.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:14 PM (+DwtS)

The damage is very extensive this time around, it'll be a decade plus before they could get to where they were, and that is assuming they don't collapse to infighting. Granted the US is now in a position to deal with them relatively easily, but we've gained a lot here at fairly little cost, especially in altering Iran's relations in the Middle East.

Really the only material pressure limiting maintenance bombing on the US side of negotiations is the mid-terms.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:20 PM (okun6)

209 "Kristi Noem’s husband is a secret crossdresser who dons gigantic fake bre*sts and pink hotpants to chat with online f*tish models."

Well, I sure didn't have that on my bingo card.


Well, I guess we know why she was fooling around with the arm ripper offer.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:21 PM (Riz8t)

210 The stock market is a fickle butthole.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:21 PM (aTgV0)

211 A couple weeks ago I saw a video clip of an Austere Religious Scholar explain how his people were using the Moose Limbs as a broom to "sweep white people out of Europe". He was quite pleased with the progress.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (V362x)

212 These black robers need to be given a talkin' to

@Breaking911 2m
🚨 BREAKING: Federal judge halts President Trump's White House ballroom construction -CNN

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (diia5)

213 Forget it Masturbatin’ Pete, it’s MagaCultTown. You’ll never convince them Trump has ever done anything wrong.
Posted by: The way it is at March 31, 2026 03:19 PM (wK9ty)



Oh FFS...........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

214 Akkkkkshully, that could make a lot of sense. The US offers the primary insurance policy and then offers to split it up among existing companies who are willing to take a piece of the pie but can't handle all of it.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:18 PM (4pi1M)

-------------------

Who in the US is paying for it and with what money.

Posted by: Diabeetus at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (SlrUo)

215 This Pete Hegseth guy can stay.

Kinda like him.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (aTgV0)

216 Thank goodness for this place of refuge. I love Ace and dreamed of him last night (seriously). Weird platonic dream, Ace. You were having a dinner party and invited us. I offered to help wash the dishes and you turned me down.

Regardless, there's the steady drumbeat of "no troops on the ground" on the blog where I'm primed and ready to argue. Except she's vanished for now, and I was polite. Possibly marching with No Kings.

France, Italy and Spain are going to get spankings from President Trump. And Stuttering Sudden Colonoscopy Surprised Stunned Starmer is going to get it worse.

I feel similar after a war with Ann Taylor online today because the site would not let me buy a simple lace blouse (on sale) due to my address. I feel ready and rested for war now.

My husband came downstairs smiling and asking who I am mad at now. He said he can tell when I say to the rep, "Thank you very much and I am glad this is being recorded!" Sometimes when I am told a call is being recorded I shout GOOD!

I appear to be a bit ornery and maybe lunch will cure me.

I thank God every night for President Trump as he shows the sissy countries how it is freaking done!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (WONhk)

217 207 Yes or No: is ending this war without regime change a TACO move?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

No, because that was never identified as one of the goals of the operation?
Posted by: Military Moron
_________

Well you've got me there, bro. If our war objective is weak and ineffective, and the results of the war are weak and ineffective, then Mission Accomplished. This war is no different from every half assed war since the end of WWII.

But you really should check into what Trump said about regime change at the outset of the war.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (+DwtS)

218 Hasn't there already been "regime change" in Iran? I mean, the top leaders and many down the chain are all dead. I don't think anyone even knows who's really in charge now. That sounds like a change of regime to me.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (iFTx/)

219 Meanwhile Air Strip One keeps allowing the USAF to transit aircraft through, like A-10Cs and B-52Hs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (2GVsD)

220 Breaking - a judge rules that the White House ballroom project has to stop unless it receives congressional approval.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at March 31, 2026 03:23 PM (2ap+5)

221 @Breaking911 2m
🚨 BREAKING: Federal judge halts President Trump's White House ballroom construction -CNN
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (diia5)




How does a federal judge halt a privately funded construction project that's already well underway?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

222 Pete we get it you were right 10 years ago about Trump when he was the nominee. You had him pegged.

So glad you disappeared for so long except to gloat in 2020 and inexplicably came back now when thing look "bad".

I look forward to your next departure.

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:23 PM (eBwIO)

223 So it's your position that when this war is over the mullahs won't be in charge?

Will you admit that you were wrong and apologize if they still are?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:20 PM (+DwtS)

I think the position of this board is that when Trump is done, Iran will no longer be a threat to America (or even Israel).

That is literally all I care about. Iranians can do what they want in their own borders...but it's like that slogan "what happens in Iran, stays in Iran"...

Posted by: Nova Local at March 31, 2026 03:23 PM (tOcjL)

224 Breaking - a judge rules that the White House ballroom project has to stop unless it receives congressional approval.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at March 31, 2026 03:23 PM


This was not unexpected, in fact the ruling is a bit overdue IMO. It will be overturned on appeal.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 31, 2026 03:24 PM (0N4FZ)

225 >>My argument is that if we're going to do this war, regime change has to happen.
__
I think you've identified the problem. You are judging the success of the operation based on your personal goal, not the Administration's.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at March 31, 2026 03:24 PM (bNf8H)

226 So it's your position that when this war is over the mullahs won't be in charge?

Will you admit that you were wrong and apologize if they still are?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:20 PM (+DwtS)


Defacto regime-charge has already occurred. The guys in charge a month ago are dead. They've been very publicly pantsed, and their neighbors want them all dead.

My position is that whoever is left in charge of Iran will know to behave themselves.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 31, 2026 03:24 PM (ksbjf)

227 206 Forget it Masturbatin’ Pete, it’s MagaCultTown. You’ll never convince them Trump has ever done anything wrong.
Posted by: The way it is

Mostly, but if Trump actually did something significant against the will of his base, we'd call him out. A large ground invasion of Iran, followed by permanent presence and nation building (Iraq/Afghanistan 2.0) would be a deal breaker. This minor conflict, even if it escalated to a few troops going in, smashing something, and leaving? Not a big deal.

If Trump said "I love Mexicans, almost as much as Trump Tower taco bowl salads", opened the borders, and granted amnesty to all illegals, people would be pissed.

He does little things that go against the MAGA base at times, but nothing serious, so we're not too upset in return.

Posted by: Military Moron at March 31, 2026 03:24 PM (JCZqz)

228 No one expects the Spanish Inquisition on their bingo card.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:24 PM (aTgV0)

229 Turns out, you can just do things.
Like ignore Europe.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (xcxpd)

230 Well, my dreams of retiring to a seaside village in Italy are rapidly deteriorating it seems.
Looks like Croatia is runner up.

Posted by: Defenestratus at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (gZLU7)

231 France, Italy and Spain are going to get spankings from President Trump.

I'm a little surprised at Meloni TBH. Italy is saying something like the correct protocols requesting overflight were not followed.

The report did ​not specify when the aircraft were due to land but said permission was denied because the U.S. ​had not requested clearance and Italy's military leadership had not been consulted, as required ⁠under treaties governing the use of U.S. military installations in the country.

https://is.gd/Dqw637

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (Riz8t)

232 reaking911 2m
🚨 BREAKING: Federal judge halts President Trump's White House ballroom construction -CNN
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (diia5)



How does a federal judge halt a privately funded construction project that's already well underway?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)
______

It's some paperwork-pushing, red tape cock-and-bullshit

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

233 I want another first day of the Iran attack. Is it because we have run out of targets that we don't.?

Leak that we are landing at X and have a fleet head to that X .

Hopefully the IRG will take the bait and gather to repel it.

1.
2.
3. Profit !



Posted by: Harry Vandenburg at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (V4IXI)

234 So, is it true that Iran got lucky and zapped an E-3 Sentry?

Maybe we do need the E-7.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (2GVsD)

235 208 196
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
________

So it's your position that when this war is over the mullahs won't be in charge?

Will you admit that you were wrong and apologize if they still are?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:20 PM (+DwtS)

That's a pretty dramatic misrepresentation. He said the IRGC was in charge, meaning the mullahs nominally hold power.

He didn't say regime change would necessarily occur, he didn't even talk about regime change.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (okun6)

236 210 "Kristi Noem’s husband is a secret crossdresser who dons gigantic fake bre*sts and pink hotpants to chat with online f*tish models."

Well, I sure didn't have that on my bingo card.

Well, I guess we know why she was fooling around with the arm ripper offer.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:21 PM (Riz8t)
____________________________

Hey, anyone remember when she VETO'd the Bill as Governor that would have disallowed man to participate in women's sports? Her excuse was that there would have been all kinds of legal ramifications with the NCAA. When her popularity on the Right took a hit for that act, she all of a sudden changed her mind (I think only 180 days later).

Noem is an opportunist. Her self absorption is written all over her face in cosmetic surgery scars.

Forget about her. She's no great loss.

Posted by: Orson at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (dIske)

237 Did Trump manage to open the Strait of America?

----------------

"DENIED!" -- US District Clown Judge and Defacto POTUS Bozoberg

/"The Strait of Literally Hitler" has a nice ring to it ...

Posted by: ShainS at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (yB0MT)

238 "Kristi Noem’s husband is a secret crossdresser who dons gigantic fake bre*sts and pink hotpants to chat with online f*tish models."


_________
She will let this go, but I got shot for much less.

Posted by: Cricket at March 31, 2026 03:26 PM (ufJfM)

239
This Pete Hegseth guy can stay.

Kinda like him.
Posted by: eleven

================

I remember back in February 2024 when he would definitely be gone in a few weeks. Mark Halperin's experts knew all about it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 31, 2026 03:26 PM (n7rxJ)

240 Christy you can wash my dishes anytime.

60% of the time.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:26 PM (aTgV0)

241 "Kristi Noem’s husband is a secret crossdresser who dons gigantic fake bre*sts and pink hotpants to chat with online f*tish models."

You know what you have to do, Kristi. To uphold your sacred honor.

Posted by: Zombie Cricket at March 31, 2026 03:26 PM (JCZqz)

242
Federal Judge halts NASA Moon launch.

Posted by: Frank Barone at March 31, 2026 03:26 PM (IifOV)

243 Mostly, but if Trump actually did something significant against the will of his base, we'd call him out. A large ground invasion of Iran, followed by permanent presence and nation building (Iraq/Afghanistan 2.0) would be a deal breaker.
Posted by: Military Moron
________

You should be pissed that Trump is about to end this war the mullahs still in power, and with a new revenue source: tolls on tankers.

But you're not going to be pissed because you'll never get pissed at Trump. You'll always talk yourself into believing that his farts smell great.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (+DwtS)

244 Well you've got me there, bro. If our war objective is weak and ineffective, and the results of the war are weak and ineffective, then Mission Accomplished. This war is no different from every half assed war since the end of WWII.

But you really should check into what Trump said about regime change at the outset of the war.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (+DwtS)

If you got a quote to back that up, post it. Otherwise, I hear there is lube in the cuck shed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (xcxpd)

245 How does a federal judge halt a privately funded construction project that's already well underway?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

I AM THE LAW!!!

Posted by: Judge Fed at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (JCZqz)

246 Ass gets punched in the face. Blood everywhere. He's down.

Must have won, right?

Posted by: man at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (XuXeR)

247 LMAO yes this place never allows criticism of Trump except when It name sake and personal shelver has intermittently said he hated his guts a bunch of times and it would be a bad idea to follow him, and that he was voting DeSantis in the primary.

The fuck of fucks please get a new fucking shtick.

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (eBwIO)

248
Federal Judge Opens Strait of Hormuz.

Posted by: Frank Barone at March 31, 2026 03:28 PM (IifOV)

249 A guy named Masterbatin Pete trying to be serious....

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:28 PM (aTgV0)

250 The chick killed an innocent dog and tried to reframe it as she's capable of making hard decisions.

She's pretty and all but not that pretty that you can overlook the psychopathy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 31, 2026 03:28 PM (XV/Pl)

251 1. Do we know that the pic with Noem's husband in ridiculously yuge boobs is real? Something like this could be easily faked.

2. If the pic is real, how much you wanna bet that Trump knew about it, and was a secret reason for firing her (he knew it would eventually come out)?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

252
But you're not going to be pissed because you'll never get pissed at Trump. You'll always talk yourself into believing that his farts smell great.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (+DwtS)



That statement right there makes you an inconceivable dumbshit.

Go away now. You're done. Buffoon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

253 I like waiting for clarification about Italy.

The USAF is still at Aviano with F-16s. A paperwork mess up, oh well. That can be sorted out or simply the Italians say 'we see nothing.'

Sicily is nice, but there is always Malta. OR you stage the KC-46As and KC-135Rs out of Sicily to refuel the aircraft transiting through the Med.

Not the first time the USAF had to thread the Med needle, the resupply effort to Israel during the Yom Kippur War.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (2GVsD)

254 You know what you have to do, Kristi. To uphold your sacred honor."

I dunno. Playboy?

Posted by: man at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (XuXeR)

255 Actually, I think it might be shallower than that. Trump follows social media closely. A lot of right-wing commentators and such have adopted the phrase "we can just do things" to excuse/encourage the president to act, often unilaterally. I assume he, or his advisors like Miller, see that, like the sound of it, and are kind of echoing the sentiment.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at March 31, 2026 03:01 PM (JCZqz)
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I might have thought that in Trump 1.0, but I don't in Trump 2.0. This has all been planned with contingency possibilities studied. It doesn't mean it will work or that it won't go off the rails. It might go off the rails. Trump's team has realized that the world as it was was all about posturing. And he has governed since his re-election with that as the overriding assessment of all of his political enemies. So his administration has been able to maneuver his enemies into untenable situations that have been tough to get out of. That is what is going on right now.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (GZYu7)

256 What mullahs?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (viF8m)

257 252 1. Do we know that the pic with Noem's husband in ridiculously yuge boobs is real? Something like this could be easily faked.

2. If the pic is real, how much you wanna bet that Trump knew about it, and was a secret reason for firing her (he knew it would eventually come out)?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026

Because Noem has commented on it, and said the family was completely blindsided by it.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (OoFl2)

258 For those who think Macron and the Spanish potentate, insert name here, cannot defend their countries without America, I would only say: There's a first time for everything!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (adwAx)

259 236
He didn't say regime change would necessarily occur, he didn't even talk about regime change.
Posted by: Red Turban

_____

Stop fucking lying. Read Trump's speech when he announced the beginning of the war. "Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand."

If that isn't about regime change, what the fuck is it?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (+DwtS)

260 Modern Russia is incapable of seriously invading, let alone occupying Western Europe.

But let's throw military realities to the four winds, and presume they were.

Who gives a damn?

Western Europe is spent. They're done. Someone is going to make a play on Europe, and it's not worth defending against that whoever. It would be unconscionable to intervene a third time on their behalf, even if they still mattered - and they don't.

Who would you prefer do it? An actual world power like China? I wouldn't. Barking mad Muslims? That's the one that will happen, and it's the worst outcome.

If Putin somehow got the wherewithal to snatch Western Europe, it would probably be the best of the bad outcomes, for them and us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (BI5O2)

261 You should be pissed that Trump is about to end this war the mullahs still in power, and with a new revenue source: tolls on tankers.

Should I be pissed that there wasn't regime change in Venezuela, too? It, also, wasn't the goal of the military action, but I guess I'm supposed to care about thing's we're not trying to accomplish? It's all so confusing.

And I'll worry about theoretical taxes on tankers when they start happening, and Iran gets blasted again.

Posted by: Military Moron at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (JCZqz)

262 What mullahs?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (viF8m)




tHe OnEs tHaT aRe In cHarGe!!!!!!!!


*whackwhackwhack*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

263 I thought Pete flounced out of here like 57 times.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (aTgV0)

264 Federal Judge halts NASA using Tang...

Posted by: man at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (XuXeR)

265 It's some paperwork-pushing, red tape cock-and-bullshit
Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

Once again leftists care more about the preservation and execution of bureaucratic process (see recent video of the Canadian freak show) then actual results on the ground.

If your action doesn't directly empower some otherwise useless human being then it must be stopped at all costs.

Posted by: Defenestratus at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (gZLU7)

266 "In a few weeks, Trump has normalized the concept of Western control over the Strait so thoroughly that full US seizure now looks like the modest option compared to what he's suggesting allies do on their own. This is intentional."


This is not the outcome I would like to see but it does make sense. Ever since long before I joined the Navy iran has been closing the straits to interrupt the flow of oil to the world.


They closed them in the 70s and that caused the gas lines in the US and closed them again in the late 80s when we had to go in and blow them up during the tanker wars. On and off multiple times they have threatened to close them or dumped mines there in the last 25 years.


It is time to end their ability to throw a temper tantrum that affects global prices.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (0N4FZ)

267 Iraq =\= Iran

The first 5 minutes into the conflict should have been a hint.

This isn't GWB presidency where you could scare him with a rolled up copy of a newspaper

There is a clear strategy that is playing out and it isn't a full blown invasion. Pay attention

Posted by: melodicmetal at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (61TgR)

268 What the trolls fail to realize is a lot of us don't actually like Trump, but the alternative is gay race communism. And it is a binary choice.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (DoRKe)

269 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

I have been telling you this for 10 years. I've got a million of em

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (eBwIO)

270 I am just waiting for the "MOSSAD" name drop.

Posted by: runner at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (GD0B3)

271 How does a federal judge halt a privately funded construction project that's already well underway?/i]

DeSantis is trying to get a nutball judge impeached for letting a monster walk free that then killed a little kid. Again, he leads the way showing how governors should act.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (El6/E)

272 The only place Iran is having any success is on the internet.

And there's no shortage of people who've acquired the taste for camel-flavored dick that are willing to shill for Iran.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (HXT0k)

273 Unless and until Kristi Noem's husband is proven guilty of stealing luggage in airports, I refuse the believe the cross-dressing stories mean anything at all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (adwAx)

274 Nancy Mace has come out against 'chemtrails'

they must be stopped!

damn, I thought she had some sense

Posted by: Don Black at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (ZxPkt)

275 "President DJT". Has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (rj6Yv)

276 Sicily is nice, but there is always Malta. OR you stage the KC-46As and KC-135Rs out of Sicily to refuel the aircraft transiting through the Med.

I've been to Malta twice. Amazing place, especially if you like history.

Posted by: Military Moron at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (JCZqz)

277 That sounds like a change of regime to me.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (iFTx/)


Where the jerk off has a point is that "regime change" when we do it isn't supposed to hand over, say, Iraq to half a Shiite client of Iran and half ISIS; or Libya to a bunch of slave traders; or Somalia to pirates.
But I'm not in this for regime change. I'm in this for crippling Iran's force projection and cowing its leaders into not funding foreign terrorists against us.
What happens with the Strait is more of a Europe / India / Australia / southeast Asia problem, with which they should deal.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (gKWVE)

278 That statement right there makes you an inconceivable dumbshit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
======
He didn't use reason to get where he is so he cannot be reasoned out of Orangeman Bad, no matter what the evidence is. Leftists and groypers have the same problem--their reaction to Trump is visceral, not logical and that makes them not able to have reasonable discussions.

His accomplice is a banned former commenter and it is pretty evident who that is.

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:32 PM (E4rtv)

279 I have been telling you this for 10 years. I've got a million of em
Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (eBwIO)



Valid.

Some of us learn lessons hard.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

280 Iraq =\= Iran

The first 5 minutes into the conflict should have been a hint.


Yes but there are some people of limited intellectual capacity for who that is the only template for war: every military action in the middle east is a miserable failing forever war that probably will bring ww3. Just ask them about Syria in the previous Trump administration.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (El6/E)

281 Who in the US is paying for it and with what money.

Trump has already floated the first part so I'll let him figure out that part. The second part is about spreading the risks and rewards among willing participants and shouldn't cost us anything.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (YVBwj)

282 I saw Forty Fucking Million Deutschmarks open for 50 Cent at the Gaylord Entertainment Center in '03.

Posted by: ShainS at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (yB0MT)

283 There are never Trumpers who show up from time to time. Best to ignore ands scroll on past.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (u73oe)

284 "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears."

He said he want to cut all our ears off!!!

-Masturbatin' Pete

Posted by: Frank Barone at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (IifOV)

285 The problem with arguing with someone like Petey is he will interrogate you to hell with 100% self assurance and dick waving and then when he turns out to be PROVEN deadass wrong he just quietly disappears.

The worst kind of time wasting shit. But he loves his mirror.

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (eBwIO)

286 Malta, the only island to get the George Cross.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (2GVsD)

287 I like Trump.

Just wouldn't let him near my sister.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (aTgV0)

288 Meanwhile Air Strip One keeps allowing the USAF to transit aircraft through, like A-10Cs and B-52Hs.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:22 PM (2GVsD)

personal grooming in the comments

excellent

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at March 31, 2026 03:34 PM (YlWIZ)

289 Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations."

So no, nothing about us changing their regime.

Posted by: man at March 31, 2026 03:34 PM (XuXeR)

290 275 Nancy Mace has come out against 'chemtrails'

they must be stopped!

damn, I thought she had some sense
Posted by: Don Black at March 31, 2026

Let the record stand I have always said she is a nut job. Because she is.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 03:34 PM (OoFl2)

291 245
"Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand."
_____

The Iranian people aren't liberated by degrading Iran's nuclear program. They're liberated by getting rid of the mullahs.

Regime change was an objective of this war until Trump realized that it would be hard

But hey, if you're content to have the mullahs in power, just say so.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:34 PM (+DwtS)

292 I've been to Malta twice. Amazing place, especially if you like history.

Couple of amazing sieges there. Mel Gibson is talking about doing a movie about the Crusader defense of Malta

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:34 PM (El6/E)

293 No one even knows what Malta is.

Is it Italy? Is it France? Is it Malta?

What?

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (aTgV0)

294 I saw Forty Fucking Million Deutschmarks open for 50 Cent at the Gaylord Entertainment Center in '03.

Gary "US" Bonds was a bonus act

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (El6/E)

295 damn, I thought she had some sense
Posted by: Don Black

She is emotionally damaged from sexual assault years ago and the video of her showing body off in a Congressional hearing on purpose was a sign that the cheese slipped off the cracker. I think she is unlikely to win the SC gubernatorial primary and will be increasingly unhinged in Congress as a lame duck. Auditioning like MTG and probably mASSIE soon for podcasts and low rated news shows on the right.

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (E4rtv)

296 Yet the all you hear is endless doomerism.

Old & Busted: Doom Scrolling.
New Hotness: Doom Trolling.

Posted by: ShainS at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (yB0MT)

297 290 Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations."

So no, nothing about us changing their regime.
Posted by: man
_____

What do you think "the hour of your freedom" refers to? The government not having a nuclear program?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (+DwtS)

298 260 236
He didn't say regime change would necessarily occur, he didn't even talk about regime change.
Posted by: Red Turban

_____

Stop fucking lying. Read Trump's speech when he announced the beginning of the war. "Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand."

If that isn't about regime change, what the fuck is it?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (+DwtS)

I wasn't talking about Trump. You demanded a poster commit to predicting regime change as a result of the war because he stated that the IRGC rather than the mullahs were in charge.

You're literally not following conversations at all.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (okun6)

299 Wait... So a "judge" ruled Trump has to pay for PBS, and NPR ?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (FtULh)

300 The problem with arguing with someone like Petey is he will interrogate you to hell with 100% self assurance and dick waving and then when he turns out to be PROVEN deadass wrong he just quietly disappears.

Yeah, I asked him to address my question in #205, but I guess he's run off.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (Riz8t)

301 "Control insurance and you control trade.
85% of the world’s trade moves by sea and nearly half of it is insured through the London market."
---

Make that WAS controlled by the Londonstan market.

Now controlled by the American market.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (xvV+O)

302 You know why we know almost nothing of Trump's actual plan in Iran?

Because of the same people who are complaining Trump has no plan--every one of them is a confirmed enemy of the US and will run to tell Iran if they actually knew what was going on.

The Obama people are in a fight for their lives.
They are facing real charges of treason and sedition.
Winning the midterms is their last hope.
And too many on the right are all too eager to help them.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (HXT0k)

303 As for Trump talking about Iranians throwing off their IRGC masters, that'd be nice, but it's not something Trump can do by himself. That's Trump blustering and bluffing.
When Trump took Maduro, he didn't replace Maduro with the elected president-elect - much as some might wish he had. He just let Maduro's regime seconds-in-command take over. The Venezuelans will handle the rest.

Posted by: gKWVE at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (gKWVE)

304 Do we know that the pic with Noem's husband in ridiculously yuge boobs is real? Something like this could be easily faked.

2. If the pic is real, how much you wanna bet that Trump knew about it, and was a secret reason for firing her (he knew it would eventually come out)?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026

Because Noem has commented on it, and said the family was completely blindsided by it.
Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (OoFl2)
_______

Yea, I saw that statement. It was vague, though, on whether she was conceding the pics were legit, or just blindsided by the story itself.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

305 You know what you have to do, Kristi. To uphold your sacred honor."

I dunno. Playboy?
Posted by: man


Juggs.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (9E5Ho)

306 If the pic is real, how much you wanna bet that Trump knew about it, and was a secret reason for firing her (he knew it would eventually come out)?

Or, it was a goof, not a lifestyle. Like Trudeau's blackface.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (El6/E)

307 It took HMS Dragon over 3 weeks to limp into a Cretan harbor. The Brits have "borrowed" a German warship, and the French covered the UK's ass in the eastern Med.

Pathetic.

Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (rj6Yv)

308 298 290 Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations."

So no, nothing about us changing their regime.
Posted by: man
_____

What do you think "the hour of your freedom" refers to? The government not having a nuclear program?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (+DwtS)

That's an incitement to revolt. Read until the end.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (okun6)

309 Now to reprogram all the US GPS satellites to recognize the Prime Merdian runs through New Orleans.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (2GVsD)

310 She's pretty and all but not that pretty that you can overlook the psychopathy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 31, 2026 03:28 PM (XV/Pl)

She's not ugly. But she is kinda ridiculous, like an overmakeuped pageant girl. It's not a great look.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (9FEtL)

311 TBF Article 5 was enacted on behalf of…the United States in 2001.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (z/ZK2)

312 When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations."

Posted by: man at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (XuXeR)

313 #308 Cypriot harbor, not Cretan.

Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (rj6Yv)

314 310 Now to reprogram all the US GPS satellites to recognize the Prime Merdian runs through New Orleans.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (2GVsD)

90 degrees is the Prime Meridian?

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (z/ZK2)

315 Because of the same people who are complaining Trump has no plan--every one of them is a confirmed enemy of the US and will run to tell Iran if they actually knew what was going on

Yeah every time the left yells "TRUMP HAS NO PLAN" I know that means "HE WON'T TELL US HIS PLANS, DAMMIT!!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:38 PM (El6/E)

316 Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:36 PM (okun6)

Not to put too fine a point on it but he's demanding predictions and sides and literally has shown he will just turn tail when reality doesn't go his way.

But he WILL come back without an ounce of contrition when he thinks he has you on something else. So there's that.

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:38 PM (eBwIO)

317 The Iranian people aren't liberated by degrading Iran's nuclear program. They're liberated by getting rid of the mullahs.

We've killed several, if it makes you feel better.

Posted by: Military Moron at March 31, 2026 03:38 PM (JCZqz)

318 Yeah, I asked him to address my question in #205, but I guess he's run off.

TBF, I've been in his position, where I'm the only one arguing a side, and you can't keep up with the rejoinders. The difference is that I do my best, but don't call other people neocons or something similarly retarded.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:38 PM (Riz8t)

319 whew this Iran thing - years of wasting tax dollars with no progress ...

oh wait

that's not at all what's happening

Posted by: BlackOrchid(j+aD2) at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (j+aD2)

320 HMS Dragon is one of only two Royal Navy destroyers capable of deployment. Only one Astute class fast attack sub is ready for duty. HMS Prince of Wales is 'ready' for deployment but there are not enough escort ships.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (2GVsD)

321 Yea, I saw that statement. It was vague, though, on whether she was conceding the pics were legit, or just blindsided by the story itself.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026

Oh my gosh you are such a lawyer sometimes. She asked for privacy and prayers. If there was a question on the legitimacy, she would not be saying this.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (OoFl2)

322 Stop fucking lying. Read Trump's speech when he announced the beginning of the war. "Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand."

If that isn't about regime change, what the fuck is it?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:31 PM (+DwtS)
==================
Obviously, it is about regime change, if so desired by the Persians.

What it does not say is that America is going to implement or even cause regime change.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (adwAx)

323 "85% of the world’s trade moves by sea and nearly half of it is insured through the London market."

I'm calling bullshit on both these numbers

Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (iFTx/)

324 What do you think "the hour of your freedom" refers to? The government not having a nuclear program?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:35 PM (+DwtS)

That's an incitement to revolt. Read until the end.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (okun6)

If Masturbatin Pete had his way. The United States would be a whiny, toothless country (but he’d be VERY HAPPY if the government pointed its guns at US) and be more isolated than Albania under Hoxha.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (z/ZK2)

325 That's an incitement to revolt. Read until the end.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

To quote Paul Simon,

"A man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest
La La La La La"

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (E4rtv)

326 But you're not going to be pissed because you'll never get pissed at Trump. You'll always talk yourself into believing that his farts smell great.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (+DwtS)

Im pissed at Trump for playing nice with Xi. Letting in 600,000 students from the CCP....aka spies.

Im pissed he hasn't nuked the H1-B visa program.

Im pissed about the tariffs on automobiles since I drive two European vehicles.

There's plenty I don't agree with Trump on. I can't stand his voice and accent. Can't watch his speeches because they give me headaches.

But even with all that... hes not a mouth breathing dead brained drooling Uncle Bernie that you outright fucking evil leftist foisted on us. He's infinitely better than anyone on your side because while he might be a narcissistic ass (and what politician isnt)... he at least devotes his efforts to improving the American condition. After all of the shit hes been through legally and mortally... he doesn't need to do this.

Posted by: Defenestratus at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (gZLU7)

327 318 The Iranian people aren't liberated by degrading Iran's nuclear program. They're liberated by getting rid of the mullahs.

We've killed several, if it makes you feel better.
Posted by: Military Moron
_____

"Yeah there's a mullah in power but we killed a bunch of his predecessors so that means there's no mullah in power"

Do you believe that shit?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (+DwtS)

328
But hey, if you're content to have the mullahs in power, just say so.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:34 PM (+DwtS)



Name a mullah that's actively calling shots and is in control of Iran.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

329 Take the Prime Meridian away from England. If we are going to take the ship insurance, we might as well take the Prime Meridian.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (2GVsD)

330 324 "85% of the world’s trade moves by sea and nearly half of it is insured through the London market."

I'm calling bullshit on both these numbers
Posted by: Elric The Blade at March 31, 2026 03:39 PM (iFTx/)

I’m not on the 85%. Ocean going trade is insanely huge. Frankly I think that’s low balling it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (z/ZK2)

331 The woke right is that liike the left, only wearing a right skinsuit?

Posted by: tubal at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (pDt9x)

332 The problem with arguing with someone like Petey is he will interrogate you to hell with 100% self assurance and dick waving and then when he turns out to be PROVEN deadass wrong he just quietly disappears.

The worst kind of time wasting shit. But he loves his mirror.
Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:33 PM (eBwIO)
----
It's gotta be exhausting being 150% correct all the time, with ideas of such scintillating brilliance that no one here, least of all ace himself, will ever be able to comprehend them within the lifetime of the known universe.

No wonder he takes a break.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (ESVrU)

333 Of course it's about regime change, dum dum.

Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (aTgV0)

334 The obvious reason for UK, France, and Spain to not want to support the US is the fact that there are so many Muslims in those places always ready to riot and try to take over.

When Europe falls to Islam, I will shed tears only for the beautiful Christians, however few there are.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (qFwJc)

335 "Sooo…Kristi Noem’s husband is cross dressing freak. Wow. This is so amazingly embarrassing and degrading."
Posted by: Piper

Easy resolution ... Kristi knows how to deal with "bad dogs".

Posted by: illiniwek at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (vbXSk)

336 🥳

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (YlWIZ)

337 HMS Dragon is one of only two Royal Navy destroyers capable of deployment. Only one Astute class fast attack sub is ready for duty. HMS Prince of Wales is 'ready' for deployment but there are not enough escort ships.

Mark Felton has a really good summary of the pathetic state of Britain's navy. It's...appalling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gru2EDJvj9Q

Posted by: Archimedes at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (Riz8t)

338 the Meridian of Trump?

Posted by: gKWVE at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (gKWVE)

339 Take the Prime Meridian away from England. If we are going to take the ship insurance, we might as well take the Prime Meridian.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:40 PM (2GVsD)

Rename it "The Prime 'Murican"

Posted by: Josephistan at March 31, 2026 03:41 PM (FLx59)

340 325
If Masturbatin Pete had his way. The United States would be a whiny, toothless country (but he’d be VERY HAPPY if the government pointed its guns at US) and be more isolated than Albania under Hoxha.
Posted by: Cow Demon
_____

We are whiny and toothless. We whine about Europe not going along with our war. We don't have the teeth to do regime change or keep the Strait of Hormuz open


And you're fine with this

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (+DwtS)

341 We should defund federal judges, they are getting enough money under the table anyway.

Posted by: Case at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (pvf3X)

342 327 But you're not going to be pissed because you'll never get pissed at Trump. You'll always talk yourself into believing that his farts smell great.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (+DwtS)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Mao at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (z/ZK2)

343 Trump has already floated the first part so I'll let him figure out that part. The second part is about spreading the risks and rewards among willing participants and shouldn't cost us anything.
Posted by: Oddbob

Insurance, when done right, is great business. Not a single insurer went out of business during the Depression

Posted by: MkY at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (q6tQZ)

344 I want to slap anyone who screeches that Candidate Trump said no more wars.

Stuff changes. Even I can see this. The fact that Iran shot a 4000km missile longer than people thought should clear this right up. A ballistic missile that could have hit Paris, London, Berlin and Rome.

THEY LIE! IT IS THEIR religion to lie!

But! Ohhh! You are in the Situation Room. You know stuff. Trump said he wouldn't do this! High dudgeon of despair!

Yesterday on either the UK DM or NY Post a freaking STRIPPER in San Diego said!!!! that Marines were dreading going to Iran.

I know when my sources are STRIPPERS it shall be believed and engraved in stone.

On top of everything with stubbornly ordering a blouse for 2hrs of my valuable time, a beetle got in the house and my husband had to kill it. This was not planned anymore than the Iran ballistic missile, but we took care of it. Otherwise I would have been freaking out by bedtime.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (WONhk)

345 Don't pretend the issue is overflights. You're pissed that they won't join the shooting part of this dumbass war
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:58 PM (+DwtS)

How does it feel driving off the cliff? Does the bottom come at you fast or does everything look slo mo?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (g8Ew8)

346 NOOD Oh, Canada

Posted by: Turn 2 at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (SlGTd)

347 The strait is quite open.

Posted by: man at March 31, 2026 03:43 PM (XuXeR)

348 We are whiny and toothless. We whine about Europe not going along with our war. We don't have the teeth to do regime change or keep the Strait of Hormuz open


And you're fine with this
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (+DwtS)
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So you want us to go do MOAR WAR because we're not doin' enough of it.

And in the same argument call OTHER people neocons?

Can I buy some of what you're smoking?

Posted by: ballistic at March 31, 2026 03:43 PM (oqH4h)

349 TBF, I've been in his position, where I'm the only one arguing a side, and you can't keep up with the rejoinders.
Posted by: Archimedes


I keep telling you, that lever thing is never going to work!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:43 PM (El6/E)

350 I have it on very good authority that H1-B visas will be a casualty of AI.

Seriously. AI is so good that we simply don't need as many entry-level engineers anymore.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at March 31, 2026 03:43 PM (qFwJc)

351 Okay, Noem's husband is top news at Kos.

Bless him for this covert operation to take the heat off of President Trump and distract the lefties from the war.

That's it. That's what happened.

Posted by: Stateless - Day 12 of 14 or so - extreme dog care at March 31, 2026 03:43 PM (Sco7b)

352 301

Yeah, I asked him to address my question in #205, but I guess he's run off.
Posted by: Archimedes
______

I'm dealing with a lot of Trump fellating Neocon here, you'll have to wait you're turn. I assure you I'm not ignoring you because you've stumped me.

What's your question?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (+DwtS)

353 Now to reprogram all the US GPS satellites to recognize the Prime Merdian runs through New Orleans.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM (2GVsD)

90 degrees is the Prime Meridian?

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:37 PM


I got an idea, reprogram everything to have the prime meridian run through, get this.....meridian, MS. That will fvck with everybody.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (0N4FZ)

354 The "Europe is lost", "The UK is lost", "France is lost", "The Muslims are on the march", etc., is cute, and not accurate. What's going to happen in "Europe" is something that will be quite brutal and thorough, I'm thinking. Enoch Powell lies a moldering in his grave ..

Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (rj6Yv)

355 Meanwhile, The Spectator, rapidly traveling down the road The Economist has already traveled:

The markets have stopped listening to Donald Trump

That's why the Dow is up 900 points. /s

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (n1OCj)

356 We are whiny and toothless. We whine about Europe not going along with our war. We don't have the teeth to do regime change or keep the Strait of Hormuz open


And you're fine with this
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (+DwtS)

No, we bitch about ingratitude. That is a different thing, but I do not expect someone like you who steadfastly refuses to study history to understand that. Pray tell, how is having the ability to project power (which fills you with embarrassment and deep, intense shame) whiny and toothless. With that, the will and ability to USE said power projection?

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (z/ZK2)

357 The failure of Iranians to rise is the most foreboding thing about this whole adventure. Yes, I understand that much of the prominent opposition figures have been slaughtered, and that they are unarmed, and disorganized.

Even so, with a despotic elite on the ropes, I'd expect a lot more disorganized, spontaneous, poorly armed mass violence against regime officials and assets than we're seeing.

This leads to me to suspect that popular support for the regime, even if it's still a minority position, is *much* higher than we've been led to believe - high enough to dissuade their anti-regime neighbors from acting.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (BI5O2)

358 Meh this troll is easy to ignore.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 31, 2026 03:45 PM (RIvkX)

359 Elric and others.

From Maritime London-City of London's website,

"London is the world’s leading centre for marine insurance, including P&I. Physical risk in shipping arises from shipping operations, cargo loss or damage as well as shipbuilding and London provides a solid infrastructure for the insurance of these risks. Whether placed through Lloyd’s of London or company members of the International Underwriting Association (IUA), London insurers are able to handle the insurance needs of the shipping community. Cover provided includes hull insurance, war risk insurance, loss of profit/freight insurance, detention insurance, strike insurance or uninsured legal expenses (defence) cover.

London currently has the largest share – around a third – of the global insurance market, ahead of the USA, Japan, Germany and France. In 2013, it was worth £5.9bn. (Source: London Matters: The competitive position of the London Insurance Market, 2014). P&I clubs continue to provide the majority share of the world’s shipping fleet with insurance cover against legal liabilities to third parties."

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:45 PM (E4rtv)

360 >>We don't have the teeth to do regime change or keep the Strait of Hormuz open

You keep saying that and people keep asking you over and over what mullahs are you talking about because appear to be undead. So specifically, which mullahs are still running Iran?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:46 PM (viF8m)

361 349
So you want us to go do MOAR WAR because we're not doin' enough of it.

And in the same argument call OTHER people neocons?

Can I buy some of what you're smoking?
Posted by: ballistic
________

IF we are going to do a war, we need to do it the whole way.

I think this war is a bad idea. But if we're doing it, we need to do it right.

My preferences, in order: 1. No war. 2. War that we fight with our while ass. 3. This half-ass war.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:46 PM (+DwtS)

362 Does that explain Noems fascination with the tranny lobby? It was her husband all along???

Probably not but it's nice to dream she's just a devoted wife not a Big GOPe Dummy.

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:46 PM (eBwIO)

363 This leads to me to suspect that popular support for the regime, even if it's still a minority position, is *much* higher than we've been led to believe - high enough to dissuade their anti-regime neighbors from acting.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 31, 2026 03:44 PM (BI5O2)
====

Has the Shah called for that yet?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 31, 2026 03:46 PM (RIvkX)

364 I keep telling you, that lever thing is never going to work!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2026 03:43 PM (El6/E)

I am trying to think of a good insult involving the Roman Legions and Archimedes screw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 31, 2026 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

365 You should be pissed that Trump is about to end this war the mullahs still in power, and with a new revenue source: tolls on tankers.

But you're not going to be pissed because you'll never get pissed at Trump. You'll always talk yourself into believing that his farts smell great.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:27 PM (+DwtS)
==
Actually, that won't be the ending regardless. The regime part was always a problem - because we aren't going to invade. The hope was the people take care of that and or someone comes in charge that we can deal with who makes them less radical.

I'm sure we'd love to find the processed uranium - am hopeful Israel knows where to look for it. Their ability to launch a nuke has certainly been degraded and their proxy network has been degraded.

There is a chance that we are unable to account for the uranium, meaning a dirty bomb scenario comes into play.

You'd have a better argument if you didn't assume what you hopes happens will. And if you think this board can't take issue with Trump, you haven't been here that long.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 31, 2026 03:47 PM (GZYu7)

366 361 >>We don't have the teeth to do regime change or keep the Strait of Hormuz open

You keep saying that and people keep asking you over and over what mullahs are you talking about because appear to be undead. So specifically, which mullahs are still running Iran?
Posted by: JackStraw
______

I don't know their names, ok? Why is that important?

The problem is that a hostile government is still running Iran.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:47 PM (+DwtS)

367 hobo humpin slobo babe

Posted by: Desinex at March 31, 2026 03:48 PM (jrgJz)

368 That's why the Dow is up 900 points. /s
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Reverse Trump curse.

The truth is that these 'journalists' no longer actually do anything other than print tips from their buddies and press releases. And their editors are there to make sure that the publisher's desired outlook is printed, not any sort of objective truth.

Coverage of the Ukraine war pretty much indicated Euro media is as much globo homo as the US and of course the authoritarian regimes in the world lie as they breathe.

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:49 PM (E4rtv)

369 Yeah, I asked him to address my question in #205, but I guess he's run off.
Posted by: Archimedes

See - Petey has you pegged too.

After all, the biggest "Trump fellator" on the board --- Ar chi me des

(you had to be there)

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 03:49 PM (eBwIO)

370 194 "Kristi Noem’s husband is a secret crossdresser who dons gigantic fake bre*sts and pink hotpants to chat with online f*tish models."

How exactly did we end up with an "upper class" that mostly seem to be the sort of demented weirdos that regular people dont even expect to find in dive bars?

Posted by: Azjaeger at March 31, 2026 03:50 PM (PUrHv)

371 I don't know their names, ok? Why is that important?

The problem is that a hostile government is still running Iran.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:47 PM (+DwtS)

The same way that Ceaucescu was running Romania on 22 December 1989, perhaps. Romania…forget it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:50 PM (nqStX)

372 You'd have a better argument if you didn't assume what you hopes happens will. And if you think this board can't take issue with Trump, you haven't been here that long.
Posted by: Black JEM
=========
He has been around for years and is just an Never Trumper of old. Never got over it and returns whenever he thinks he can drop a deuce here by insisting with mathematical precision that there must have been a second key to the refrigerator holding the strawberries.

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:51 PM (E4rtv)

373 Meh this troll is easy to ignore.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 31, 2026 03:45 PM (RIvkX)

Thought experiment: what troll would be impossible to ignore?

My guess: one who, amid his trollery also linked pictures of large breasted women.

So, Ben Shapiro.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 31, 2026 03:51 PM (zZu0s)

374 Nood. Death Camp Canada.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 31, 2026 03:53 PM (zZu0s)

375 371
The same way that Ceaucescu was running Romania on 22 December 1989, perhaps. Romania…forget it.
Posted by: Cow Demon

Hey if you're confident that Iran's government will fall tomorrow, we can come back on Thursday and see if you're right.

I'm game. How about you?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:53 PM (+DwtS)

376 To deter Russian aggression in Europe.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM


A mission which ended in 1991.

Putin doesn't give a shit about Europe. I mean, aside from the part where they send him a lot of money because oil is zero carbon if you can't see it being extracted or refined.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 31, 2026 03:53 PM (2ocoG)

377 >> don't know their names, ok? Why is that important?


Because your entire argument is based on the assertion that they are still in charge of Iran. If they were it should easy to name at least one.

If you've been following this war at all you know that Trump and his team have been saying for the last week they don't know who to negotiate with because so much of the leadership is dead. The only one who appears to be negotiating is the Speaker and he is not a mullah.

If you watched Venezuela, which is not unrelated to this incident since Hezbollah was running wild in Venezuela with Iranian backing, Trump left some of the leadership in charge and under US control. That might be what happens here, temporarily, if a deal can be reached to make sure the country doesn't turn into post war Iraq which was a disaster because we took down the entire government and got ISIS instead.

The US and Israelis have obliterated Iran's navy, air force and almost all of their missiles. The GCC are on our side. I expect some coalition will be put in charge of a now neutered Iran. And that will end nearly 50 years of terror. Yea, I'm in favor of that.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2026 03:54 PM (viF8m)

378

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:42 PM (+DwtS)
----

how much time do you spend masturbating during an average day?

Posted by: Don Black at March 31, 2026 03:54 PM (ZxPkt)

379 How exactly did we end up with an "upper class" that mostly seem to be the sort of demented weirdos that regular people dont even expect to find in dive bars?
Posted by: Azjaeger
=====
Because wealthy and powerful people, once their primary needs with generational wealth are satisfied, they often turn toward the weird, bizarre, or deviant to get their jollies. Or they turn to a lifelong desire to exercise power over who they regard as peasants.

Been that way since civilization was created and enough surplus existed that these ruling class people did not starve to death or be killed by being f*ckin weirdos and parasites.

Posted by: whig at March 31, 2026 03:55 PM (E4rtv)

380 376 To deter Russian aggression in Europe.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 02:55 PM

A mission which ended in 1991.

Posted by: Ian S.
_______

I'm very open to the idea that NATO is no longer useful and can be wound down.

But I reject these complaints that NATO isn't doing something that it was never meant to do: follow the U.S. into a Mideast war.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:55 PM (+DwtS)

381 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:05 PM (+DwtS)

I see it's your turn. The people you are arguing with finally got the Holy War they have always wanted. Let them have it, good and hard.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 31, 2026 03:56 PM (CQ3Qb)

382 H1B isn't just entry level. Over the past 30 years Indians have taken over entire it departments. From the CIO down it’s nothing but h1bs in many companies.

Google and Microsoft CEOs were h1bs when they came here.

Posted by: Heroq at March 31, 2026 03:57 PM (0TtYd)

383 Its funny that the people who have fucked up foreign policy for decades are all upset at a guy trying something different that works


Cry harder carrot snapper

Posted by: melodicmetal at March 31, 2026 03:58 PM (RiVE/)

384 My preferences, in order: 1. No war. 2. War that we fight with our while ass. 3. This half-ass war.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:46 PM (+DwtS)

1. You are a wimp. 2. You take everything for granted.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 03:59 PM (nqStX)

385 377
I expect some coalition will be put in charge of a now neutered Iran. And that will end nearly 50 years of terror. Yea, I'm in favor of that.
Posted by: JackStraw
_____

Okay bro, we'll find out soon enough.

My position is that Iran will continue to be run by an anti-American government that oppresses is people. Whether it's a mullah, a sultan, a dictator or a Board of Learned Goatfuckers, as long as they're chanting "Death to America" it really doesn't make a difference.

If you think there's a meaningful difference, I'd love to hear why.

The point is that Trump is doing what America always does: leaving the job undone. But in this case worse, because the tax on the strait of Hormuz is going to hurt the global economy, and that includes us.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:59 PM (+DwtS)

386 384 My preferences, in order: 1. No war. 2. War that we fight with our while ass. 3. This half-ass war.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:46 PM (+DwtS)

1. You are a wimp. 2. You take everything for granted.
Posted by: Cow Demon
____

Yeah well you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 04:00 PM (+DwtS)

387 Because Noem has commented on it, and said the family was completely blindsided by it.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 03:30 PM (OoFl2)

Noem is next to resign, Mossad gets in front of it. What else have they kept in their back pocket on everyone else? So righteous.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 31, 2026 04:00 PM (CQ3Qb)

388 T I see it's your turn. The people you are arguing with finally got the Holy War they have always wanted. Let them have it, good and hard.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 31, 2026 03:56 PM (CQ3Qb)

Another wimp.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 04:01 PM (nqStX)

389 Hysterical.

Posted by: ... at March 31, 2026 04:06 PM (eBwIO)

390 Pete, you sound like we've lost this conflict.

What makes you so sure we are leaving things undone?

What evidence has THIS ADMINISTRATION shown that they will tuck and run? Where the fuck are you getting your news from, Reddit?

Jesus dude get a hobby

Posted by: melodicmetal at March 31, 2026 04:08 PM (RiVE/)

391 390
What evidence has THIS ADMINISTRATION shown that they will tuck and run? Where the fuck are you getting your news from, Reddit?
Jesus dude get a hobby
Posted by: melodicmetal
______
All I have to do is listen to Trump to hear that he's looking to wind this down. I know I know Colin you can take him literally but you have to take him seriously and art of the deal and blah blah blah. But Trump obviously wants this to be over. And if it ends in its current state, then there really is unfinished business.

As for history I look to the strike on Iran last summer. I have no way to judge whether they were actually successful because I don't have access to that intelligence. Nobody does. But I know that after being told that we totally obliterated their nuclear program, 9 months later we're told that they've got their nuclear program back. So we do have recent history of leaving the job undone.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 04:11 PM (+DwtS)

392 Sooo…Kristi Noem’s husband is cross dressing freak. Wow. This is so amazingly embarrassing and degrading.

Posted by: Piper at March 31, 2026 02:52 PM (OoFl2)

Where'd you see that?! Also, it's not a surprise that this is coming out after she left SD. They're not very "tolerant" over there.

Posted by: pookysgirl spends a lot of time in SD at March 31, 2026 04:11 PM (Wt5PA)

393 the bad guys have no agency and it's actually our fault

To be fair, the bad guys don't believe they have any agency either. Nothing in their religio-political system allows them to take responsibility for anything.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at March 31, 2026 04:16 PM (a+4eV)

394 Is Trump shifting the Overton Window to suggest that whoever can control the Strait -- like America -- should control the Strait?
--

Not likely, but he is a clever fellow.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 31, 2026 04:26 PM (ZwdAr)

395 My position is that Iran will continue to be run by an anti-American government that oppresses is people. Whether it's a mullah, a sultan, a dictator or a Board of Learned Goatfuckers, as long as they're chanting "Death to America" it really doesn't make a difference.

If you think there's a meaningful difference, I'd love to hear why.

The point is that Trump is doing what America always does: leaving the job undone. But in this case worse, because the tax on the strait of Hormuz is going to hurt the global economy, and that includes us.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 31, 2026 03:59 PM (+DwtS)

Wrong on all counts. When Iran gets a new government that is favorable to being civilized, you’ll never show up here again.

Posted by: Cow Demon at March 31, 2026 04:32 PM (z/ZK2)

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