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Gun Thread: Final March Edition!
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Guns Of The Horde
It took over half a year for Israel's Ministry of National Security to process and approve my gun license application. As of this past Wednesday, I am licensed. As of Friday, I am armed with the first firearm I have ever owned in my life. Until about seven months ago, Israeli laws did not make me eligible to be licensed to carry. Because of the October 7th War, licensing was expanded to include more categories of citizens. However, I only became eligible 7 months ago, when the law was modified to include most Jerusalem residents, like myself. Recently, additional cities and towns have become eligible. The license is solely for a handgun, not a rifle, for which I am not eligible. I had about 15 handguns to choose from. I chose the Glock 43X MOS. The weight and grip in my not large hand seemed just right. To finalize the license, you have to pass a written test on Israel's weapons laws, which are very strict and limiting. In addition, there is basic gun training, including weapons handling, followed by live fire shooting with 100 bullets. Speaking of 100 bullets, that's the MAXIMUM Israel's law allows you to possess. And if you think that's crazy, the maximum used to be 50 bullets until the law was changed after the October 7th War broke out in 2023. In Israel, concealed carry is not only legal. It is the government's preferred method for its armed citizens. I received an IWB holster with my purchase. However, I also have a Galco Lite shoulder holster. I originally bought it for one our pups but he changed his mind and stuck with IWB holstering. I prefer shoulder when wearing a jacket or coat. So, I will definitely be paying MORE attention hereon in to the gun thread. The thread is published past my bedtime, which is why I've almost never commented there. Thanks for much I've already learned to date from the threads' contents.CONGRATULATIONS Biden's Dog! Nice shooting!! This really made my day, thank you!!
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 29, 2026 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)
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Evenin', Weasel.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 29, 2026 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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Here!
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:01 PM (30Gj0)
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98 >>"...certain PA Dutch processed meats..."
SCRAPPLE!
My mom grew up in Philly and loooooves that stuff!
I grew up in Berks County we had Lebanon Bologna, Scrapple, Pigs Feet Jelly, Polish Cabbage Rolls {Galumpkis} and Shoo-Fly-Pie (Molasses crumb cake layered with a gooey molasses bottom) .........
The good Ole Days.....
SCRAPPLE!
My mom grew up in Philly and loooooves that stuff!
I grew up in Berks County we had Lebanon Bologna, Scrapple, Pigs Feet Jelly, Polish Cabbage Rolls {Galumpkis} and Shoo-Fly-Pie (Molasses crumb cake layered with a gooey molasses bottom) .........
The good Ole Days.....
Posted by: Jackson K. at March 29, 2026 07:01 PM (38587)
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Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2026 07:02 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:02 PM (30Gj0)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:03 PM (BCwQW)
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>>> As of Friday, I am armed with the first firearm I have ever owned in my life.
You poor man.
Most of us have so many many that when we get up in the night to relieve ourselves we have kick one or two back under the bed on our way to the bathroom.
You poor man.
Most of us have so many many that when we get up in the night to relieve ourselves we have kick one or two back under the bed on our way to the bathroom.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 07:03 PM (/lPRQ)
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5 GTs in a month. Thanks, Weasel!
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:03 PM (30Gj0)
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Damn, RMBS.
Here, but serving grilled London broil teriyaki.
I shall return.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:02 PM
Nice. Enjoy!
Here, but serving grilled London broil teriyaki.
I shall return.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:02 PM
Nice. Enjoy!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 29, 2026 07:03 PM (Wnv9h)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at March 29, 2026 07:08 PM (sAmhv)
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Just stepped over there and emptied an FNX 45 magazine. My absentee landowner urbanite neighbors are out shooting (not at me). I like to shoot ( not at them ) some when they do to remind them I live over here, plus, practice!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:09 PM (UajcV)
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Biden's Dog, great news. I'm happy to hear you qualified and are now armed!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 29, 2026 07:12 PM (RDqo2)
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By the way, I really like this pistol. You could never have convinced me that a double-stack 45 would be a good idea, but it fits my hand and I can get many rounds on target quickly with it. I have had one failure to feed with some cheap ammo, but none since over a couple thousand rounds.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:13 PM (UajcV)
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I had no idea Israel’s gun laws were so strict.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
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Biden's dog, congrats on your new glock owning status!
A blessed Holy Week and a blessed Passover to all you horde of arms.
May the Lord protect you always, and Archangel Michael defend you in battle
A blessed Holy Week and a blessed Passover to all you horde of arms.
May the Lord protect you always, and Archangel Michael defend you in battle
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 07:19 PM (tcsrY)
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It took over half a year for Israel's Ministry of National Security to process and approve my gun license
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...and the state I live in is doing its damnedest to pass laws much closer to those of Israel. I hear that a concealed carry permit now takes about four months here, but I thought the law said 90 days...have to look that up.
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...and the state I live in is doing its damnedest to pass laws much closer to those of Israel. I hear that a concealed carry permit now takes about four months here, but I thought the law said 90 days...have to look that up.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:19 PM (UajcV)
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I had no idea Israel’s gun laws were so strict.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
IIRC, it's been like that ever since Israel came into existence in 1948. Probably a legacy of the European background the nation's founders brought with them.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
IIRC, it's been like that ever since Israel came into existence in 1948. Probably a legacy of the European background the nation's founders brought with them.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:20 PM (BCwQW)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:20 PM (NlEaG)
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Hasn't Israel ever heard of the Second Amendment?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:21 PM (NlEaG)
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DMV MGC went to the range today. It was good shooting with the crew again. Hadnt been to the range for a bit.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:23 PM (NlEaG)
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Huge props to Biden’s Dog!
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:24 PM (hJH5n)
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DMV MGC went to the range today. It was good shooting with the crew again. Hadnt been to the range for a bit.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:23 PM
Hope to shoot with y'all again after the NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:23 PM
Hope to shoot with y'all again after the NoVaMoMe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 29, 2026 07:25 PM (Wnv9h)
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Had the daughter and new son-in-law over last weekend. I already posted about it last week, but, man, that kid can shoot! Son-in-law,that is...daughter is good, but her husband is closer to Jerry Miculek level of good!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM (UajcV)
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Hasn't Israel ever heard of the Second Amendment?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:21 PM (NlEaG)
Surprisingly, no. Given the nation's utter dependence on reservists who are expected to report to the mobilization stations within hours of notification, Israel has never had the "Minuteman" legacy we inherited from the first clashes w/ the Indians on the frontier before 1775.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:21 PM (NlEaG)
Surprisingly, no. Given the nation's utter dependence on reservists who are expected to report to the mobilization stations within hours of notification, Israel has never had the "Minuteman" legacy we inherited from the first clashes w/ the Indians on the frontier before 1775.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM (BCwQW)
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IIRC, it's been like that ever since Israel came into existence in 1948. Probably a legacy of the European background the nation's founders brought with them.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:20 PM (BCwQW)
Ephraim Kishon wrote in one of his short stories about the trouble he had visiting a friend in a hospital outside of visiting hours in Israel as it was barricaded and surrounded by barbed wire, as it has been during the troubles at the end of the British Mandate, and the hospital seemed to keep all the barricades and wire out of respect for tradition
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:20 PM (BCwQW)
Ephraim Kishon wrote in one of his short stories about the trouble he had visiting a friend in a hospital outside of visiting hours in Israel as it was barricaded and surrounded by barbed wire, as it has been during the troubles at the end of the British Mandate, and the hospital seemed to keep all the barricades and wire out of respect for tradition
Posted by: Kindltot at March 29, 2026 07:27 PM (rbvCR)
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Here, but serving grilled London broil teriyaki.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:02 PM
Bride of PI is also doing London broil tonight.
GMTA!
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 07:02 PM
Bride of PI is also doing London broil tonight.
GMTA!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at March 29, 2026 07:27 PM (HlyYF)
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the nation's utter dependence on reservists
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As Toqueville said, every nations bears some marks of the circumstances of its birth.
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As Toqueville said, every nations bears some marks of the circumstances of its birth.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:28 PM (UajcV)
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*nation...using phone typing...no good.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:29 PM (UajcV)
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but, man, that kid can shoot!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM
You clearly instilled in your daughter some good traits to look for in a man.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM
You clearly instilled in your daughter some good traits to look for in a man.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at March 29, 2026 07:30 PM (HlyYF)
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"Do you agree with the methodologies presented in the video? If not, why not?"
I disagree because if what works for me doesn't work for you it's just proof that you are a defective human.
Congratulations BD. See you at the range
I disagree because if what works for me doesn't work for you it's just proof that you are a defective human.
Congratulations BD. See you at the range
Posted by: Nato at March 29, 2026 07:31 PM (HcqhF)
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good traits to look for in a man
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I started that early with them..."See that dude over there with the untied shoes, blue hair, and his hat on sideways? Bring one of those home and I'll..."
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I started that early with them..."See that dude over there with the untied shoes, blue hair, and his hat on sideways? Bring one of those home and I'll..."
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:33 PM (UajcV)
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https://tinyurl.com/3fwhtp3k
Link from Lawrence Person's Battlestar blog, a anti drone shotgun round test video.
It's a beehive round in 12ga with wedge shape pellets strung together
Link from Lawrence Person's Battlestar blog, a anti drone shotgun round test video.
It's a beehive round in 12ga with wedge shape pellets strung together
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2026 07:34 PM (Ia/+0)
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Morning.
Err, wait, umm, yes, okay, that was the afternoon nap, not the morning nap.
Good evening.
Err, wait, umm, yes, okay, that was the afternoon nap, not the morning nap.
Good evening.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 07:34 PM (UJMvS)
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sra blaster wanted to try a new drill today - inspired by a guntuber we watched. What we did was start the target at 20 yards, and hit the return so that it comes at you at a fair pace and then draw from concealed carry holster and shoot 3 (or more depending) rounds at the approaching target.
As noted here before adding timing and movement to shooting makes for a much different experience. It was fun but made you feel like you were really earning your shots. I have said before that I have learned that I can shoot about the same accuracy with iron sights and dots on a handgun, but that I can acquire the target faster with the dot. sra blaster has something going on with her vision that is really messing with her use of a dot (not just an excuse for the range she has some vision issues that she's going to be visiting a specialist for). She did better with her P365 with iron sights. (To make it a little less confusing the P365 is her main carry and she has a Kimber CDS9 that is her OTHER carry pistol and it has a dot.)
But a neat drill especially with your carry gun
As noted here before adding timing and movement to shooting makes for a much different experience. It was fun but made you feel like you were really earning your shots. I have said before that I have learned that I can shoot about the same accuracy with iron sights and dots on a handgun, but that I can acquire the target faster with the dot. sra blaster has something going on with her vision that is really messing with her use of a dot (not just an excuse for the range she has some vision issues that she's going to be visiting a specialist for). She did better with her P365 with iron sights. (To make it a little less confusing the P365 is her main carry and she has a Kimber CDS9 that is her OTHER carry pistol and it has a dot.)
But a neat drill especially with your carry gun
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:35 PM (NlEaG)
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17 It took over half a year for Israel's Ministry of National Security to process and approve my gun license
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...and the state I live in is doing its damnedest to pass laws much closer to those of Israel. I hear that a concealed carry permit now takes about four months here, but I thought the law said 90 days...have to look that up.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:19 PM (UajcV)
By way of comparison, when I got my LTC in 2010, TX DPS processed the application and got me the LTC in a month.
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...and the state I live in is doing its damnedest to pass laws much closer to those of Israel. I hear that a concealed carry permit now takes about four months here, but I thought the law said 90 days...have to look that up.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 07:19 PM (UajcV)
By way of comparison, when I got my LTC in 2010, TX DPS processed the application and got me the LTC in a month.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:35 PM (hJH5n)
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Stolen from an earlier thread
_______________________
LOL
literal headline from ABC news:
What apparently began as a home invasion turned quickly into a frightening scene for the suspects, after the resident started to defend himself.
https://tinyurl.com/5dpdam2j
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
_______________________
LOL
literal headline from ABC news:
What apparently began as a home invasion turned quickly into a frightening scene for the suspects, after the resident started to defend himself.
https://tinyurl.com/5dpdam2j
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 07:35 PM (/lPRQ)
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Anyone with experience with
Crimson Trace Rad Micro Pro Green?
On sale at PSA for $99.
Worth it as a test bed for pistol optics?
Crimson Trace Rad Micro Pro Green?
On sale at PSA for $99.
Worth it as a test bed for pistol optics?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 07:39 PM (/lPRQ)
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Range report, silhouette edition.
We had our half size silhouette match yesterday, 200, 300, 400 and 500 meters, 5 targets at each distance.
I went 15 for 15 @ 200, 300 and 400 meters but fell on my face @ 500 meters, only hitting one ram.
At first, I thought it was a vertical stringing issue, rear rest..then realized later it was a dope issue. What I thought was going over the back of the ram was actually passing between the belly and the rail the ram was sitting on. in other words, I was shooting about .25 MOA low. Drat. Still though, much like the 1,000 yard match stuff last week, something to build on.
We had our half size silhouette match yesterday, 200, 300, 400 and 500 meters, 5 targets at each distance.
I went 15 for 15 @ 200, 300 and 400 meters but fell on my face @ 500 meters, only hitting one ram.
At first, I thought it was a vertical stringing issue, rear rest..then realized later it was a dope issue. What I thought was going over the back of the ram was actually passing between the belly and the rail the ram was sitting on. in other words, I was shooting about .25 MOA low. Drat. Still though, much like the 1,000 yard match stuff last week, something to build on.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 07:39 PM (UJMvS)
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Surprisingly, no. Given the nation's utter dependence on reservists who are expected to report to the mobilization stations within hours of notification, Israel has never had the "Minuteman" legacy we inherited from the first clashes w/ the Indians on the frontier before 1775.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM (BCwQW)
Obviously the 2A question is tongue in cheek but in the 80s people I knew who went to Israel said it was not uncommon to see civilians walking around with an Uzi slung over their back.
Surprisingly, no. Given the nation's utter dependence on reservists who are expected to report to the mobilization stations within hours of notification, Israel has never had the "Minuteman" legacy we inherited from the first clashes w/ the Indians on the frontier before 1775.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM (BCwQW)
Obviously the 2A question is tongue in cheek but in the 80s people I knew who went to Israel said it was not uncommon to see civilians walking around with an Uzi slung over their back.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:39 PM (NlEaG)
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Duke got schooled. That was frigging awesome.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 29, 2026 07:39 PM (Fbc0I)
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I agree with the vacuum tube video.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 29, 2026 07:40 PM (Cqx++)
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Don't know if this is a trend or just a coincidence but I'm seeing more articles about revolvers becoming more popular. Sometimes about how they can be an advantage for concealed carry for older folks or those who have trouble racking a slide: less hand strength needed and simpler operation. But others are about the easy versatility for ammo, especially for hand loading. 44 special, 41 magnum, 32 long/magnum are some of the calibers I saw mentioned.
I'm noticing a similar situation with pistol caliber lever action rifles versus AR styles.
Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?
I'm noticing a similar situation with pistol caliber lever action rifles versus AR styles.
Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special DoorDash delivery of a fifth of his chosen libation to our host Weasel. (Or cigars. Whatever.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (t2oSI)
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As comment says there
ABC is really worried about how frightened the invaders were
Turns out they weren't frightening for long
ABC is really worried about how frightened the invaders were
Turns out they weren't frightening for long
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2026 07:42 PM (Ia/+0)
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"Speaking of 100 bullets, that's the MAXIMUM Israel's law allows you to possess. And if you think that's crazy, the maximum used to be 50 bullets until the law was changed after the October 7th War broke out in 2023."
I shoot more than 100 rounds in a single range session.
I shoot more than 100 rounds in a single range session.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 29, 2026 07:43 PM (0N4FZ)
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literal headline from ABC news:
What apparently began as a home invasion turned quickly into a frightening scene for the suspects, after the resident started to defend himself.
https://tinyurl.com/5dpdam2j
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
One of the comments:
Ask not why I would value my property over someone else's life.
Ask, rather, why someone would value my property over his own life
literal headline from ABC news:
What apparently began as a home invasion turned quickly into a frightening scene for the suspects, after the resident started to defend himself.
https://tinyurl.com/5dpdam2j
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
One of the comments:
Ask not why I would value my property over someone else's life.
Ask, rather, why someone would value my property over his own life
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 29, 2026 07:43 PM (Cqx++)
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Also congrats to Biden's Dog for his persistence to join the armed contingent!
100 rounds max possession limit? looks at safe Yeah, I'd be over by just a few ...
100 rounds max possession limit? looks at safe Yeah, I'd be over by just a few ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at March 29, 2026 07:43 PM (t2oSI)
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Of course dinner conversation covvered Virginia's coming gun laws.
We might have to change our shooting location to Maryland because its less hassle.
Think about that.
We might have to change our shooting location to Maryland because its less hassle.
Think about that.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:43 PM (NlEaG)
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What we did was start the target at 20 yards, and hit the return so that it comes at you at a fair pace and then draw from concealed carry holster and shoot 3 (or more depending) rounds at the approaching target.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:35 PM
That sounds like an excellent drill to prepare for a dangerous real life situation.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 07:35 PM
That sounds like an excellent drill to prepare for a dangerous real life situation.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at March 29, 2026 07:44 PM (HlyYF)
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It's a beehive round in 12ga with wedge shape pellets strung together
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2026 07:34 PM (Ia/+0)
Now they need to look at the weapons system firing those rounds. Most shotguns are too heavy and/or have too low of a magazine capacity to be an effective infantry support weapon. An infantryman carrying a shotgun for drone defense probably doesn't have the capacity to carry much more than a pistol. And if this round is only good as a "last ditch" defensive weapon of last resort, you better be able to crank out a lot of rounds fast if you have a flock of drones coming your way. Most shotguns have too low of a rate of fire and magazines that are not deep enough to be effective close in defensive weapon. I think you'll need something belt fed with a high rate of fire and (hopefully) a longer range to get the most out of this round.
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2026 07:34 PM (Ia/+0)
Now they need to look at the weapons system firing those rounds. Most shotguns are too heavy and/or have too low of a magazine capacity to be an effective infantry support weapon. An infantryman carrying a shotgun for drone defense probably doesn't have the capacity to carry much more than a pistol. And if this round is only good as a "last ditch" defensive weapon of last resort, you better be able to crank out a lot of rounds fast if you have a flock of drones coming your way. Most shotguns have too low of a rate of fire and magazines that are not deep enough to be effective close in defensive weapon. I think you'll need something belt fed with a high rate of fire and (hopefully) a longer range to get the most out of this round.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:45 PM (BCwQW)
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Also congrats to Biden's Dog for his persistence to join the armed contingent!
100 rounds max possession limit? looks at safe Yeah, I'd be over by just a few ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)
To be fair, with concealed carry as the only apparent option there, loaded and with 2 or 3 spare mags, 50 rnds with 50 to rotate through for practice should be enough. If not you got bigger problems...
Do they have any action shoot & scoot competitions in Israel?
If so, what do they do, sell ammo by the box during the competition ? Either way, I hope ammo is readily available even if restricted.
100 rounds max possession limit? looks at safe Yeah, I'd be over by just a few ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)
To be fair, with concealed carry as the only apparent option there, loaded and with 2 or 3 spare mags, 50 rnds with 50 to rotate through for practice should be enough. If not you got bigger problems...
Do they have any action shoot & scoot competitions in Israel?
If so, what do they do, sell ammo by the box during the competition ? Either way, I hope ammo is readily available even if restricted.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 07:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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The FARC is a cool looking gun.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 29, 2026 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
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In my county in Alabama, you literally walk out with your CC license after you apply. They don't even take your picture anymore, they just used the same one as your DL, since the sheriff has a connection to the database.
Takes about five minutes once you are in front of the clerk with your $25. I paid $100 for the permanent license last time so I don't have to renew anymore.
Takes about five minutes once you are in front of the clerk with your $25. I paid $100 for the permanent license last time so I don't have to renew anymore.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 07:56 PM (4NO2D)
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For record , link came from Lawrence Person's Battleswarm Blog
Certainly that round would work on lower flying drones and coming at you in very small numbers, like 1 or 2.
Certainly that round would work on lower flying drones and coming at you in very small numbers, like 1 or 2.
Posted by: Skip at March 29, 2026 07:56 PM (Ia/+0)
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Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
It's not new. Revolvers always have been pitched as a better choice for elderly folks who don't have the strength to rack a slide for decades. This was especially true in the 80s and 90s, when GI 1911s were the semi-auto most people were familiar with. Trouble is, revolvers are the easiest to learn, but the hardest to master. The double action trigger pull is the reason why. Sharon would, on paper, be an ideal candidate for a revolver. But she couldn't pull the trigger on a Colt Detective Special in double action today because it's pull weight was far too heavy for her. If you're going to be effective with a revolver, you have to be able to handle the double action trigger pull. Revolvers do have more practical uses in your ability to switch between Special and Magnum loads. But for most, I think .38 Special/.357 Magnum will be most peoples' limit. Most people won't care to shoot anything more powerful than that other than occasionally.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
It's not new. Revolvers always have been pitched as a better choice for elderly folks who don't have the strength to rack a slide for decades. This was especially true in the 80s and 90s, when GI 1911s were the semi-auto most people were familiar with. Trouble is, revolvers are the easiest to learn, but the hardest to master. The double action trigger pull is the reason why. Sharon would, on paper, be an ideal candidate for a revolver. But she couldn't pull the trigger on a Colt Detective Special in double action today because it's pull weight was far too heavy for her. If you're going to be effective with a revolver, you have to be able to handle the double action trigger pull. Revolvers do have more practical uses in your ability to switch between Special and Magnum loads. But for most, I think .38 Special/.357 Magnum will be most peoples' limit. Most people won't care to shoot anything more powerful than that other than occasionally.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:56 PM (BCwQW)
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54 In my county in Alabama, you literally walk out with your CC license after you apply. They don't even take your picture anymore, they just used the same one as your DL, since the sheriff has a connection to the database.
Takes about five minutes once you are in front of the clerk with your $25. I paid $100 for the permanent license last time so I don't have to renew anymore.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 07:56 PM (4NO2D)
I kinda wish Texas was the same way.
Takes about five minutes once you are in front of the clerk with your $25. I paid $100 for the permanent license last time so I don't have to renew anymore.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 07:56 PM (4NO2D)
I kinda wish Texas was the same way.
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:01 PM (LHPAg)
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yikes - that Federal Air Marshal qualification is brutal. No chance I'd pass that even with unlimited tries, and they fail after the third attempt.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at March 29, 2026 08:01 PM (t2oSI)
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PI, I am now resuscitated enough to comment. Red meat is a gift, just like beer. And women.
Biden’s Dog, I am so happy for you!
Being able to defend your self and your family is also a gift.
Biden’s Dog, I am so happy for you!
Being able to defend your self and your family is also a gift.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 08:02 PM (GVUrx)
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Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
I think that newer semi-autos have lighter recoil springs and better grip surfaces that make gripping the slide easier than a GI 1911. Some are specifically aimed at users with less grip strength than your typical military age male (S&W Shield E-Z, Walther PDP-F, just to name a couple).
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
I think that newer semi-autos have lighter recoil springs and better grip surfaces that make gripping the slide easier than a GI 1911. Some are specifically aimed at users with less grip strength than your typical military age male (S&W Shield E-Z, Walther PDP-F, just to name a couple).
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:02 PM (BCwQW)
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Something else I've noticed is new members joining the Muzzleloading Forum and the Cast Boolits forum. The numbers aren't huge as these are rather niche parts of the hobby. But it may point towards a more hands-on attitude about firearms beyond pulling the trigger or cleaning your guns.
Or maybe this is me speculating since I haven't got to the range for a while.
Or maybe this is me speculating since I haven't got to the range for a while.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 08:02 PM (yTvNw)
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My revolver is the first gun I have picked up that just felt like an extension of my hand.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2026 08:03 PM (+nEug)
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62 My revolver is the first gun I have picked up that just felt like an extension of my hand.
_-_
Welp. That's the one, eh?
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Welp. That's the one, eh?
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 08:05 PM (UajcV)
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I'd fail the air marshal test. My draw is slow. Rounds on target I'm reasonably quick. Initial draw? Sundial.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 08:06 PM (UJMvS)
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Hi all
I am late because I just spent an hour trying to find a Kimber micro that takes a dot with 10 rds or ,ess mag. No luck.
Have been exploring pocket guns and wanted to rent a 380 S&W that I'd read about . It was broken. Asked about the Ruger. They didn't have it . Checked out the 43x and it is so similar to my g48 it did not seem worthwhile. So passed on renting.
SRA B,aster let me try shooting her Kimber CDs9
I am late because I just spent an hour trying to find a Kimber micro that takes a dot with 10 rds or ,ess mag. No luck.
Have been exploring pocket guns and wanted to rent a 380 S&W that I'd read about . It was broken. Asked about the Ruger. They didn't have it . Checked out the 43x and it is so similar to my g48 it did not seem worthwhile. So passed on renting.
SRA B,aster let me try shooting her Kimber CDs9
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:07 PM (t/2Uw)
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I never thought we needed anything other than the 2nd amendment. Silly me. I'm happy to live in this state or I may encounter problems.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 29, 2026 08:07 PM (Fbc0I)
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62 My revolver is the first gun I have picked up that just felt like an extension of my hand.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2026 08:03 PM (+nEug)
We had a quick run to New Braunfels yesterday, tight schedule, down and back 13 hours, three drivers.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 29, 2026 08:03 PM (+nEug)
We had a quick run to New Braunfels yesterday, tight schedule, down and back 13 hours, three drivers.
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:08 PM (LHPAg)
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Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
I think that newer semi-autos have lighter recoil springs and better grip surfaces that make gripping the slide easier than a GI 1911. Some are specifically aimed at users with less grip strength than your typical military age male (S&W Shield E-Z, Walther PDP-F, just to name a couple).
Posted by: Ed L
You can add the Ruger Security 380 to that list as well.
The slide has some features to enhance grip for racking (I think the E-Z does too). Compared to most micro 380s it is a relatively 'large' gun which cuts down on recoil as further.
Got one for the wife. I think it is the easiest gun to rack that I have ever tried.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 07:41 PM (yTvNw)
I think that newer semi-autos have lighter recoil springs and better grip surfaces that make gripping the slide easier than a GI 1911. Some are specifically aimed at users with less grip strength than your typical military age male (S&W Shield E-Z, Walther PDP-F, just to name a couple).
Posted by: Ed L
You can add the Ruger Security 380 to that list as well.
The slide has some features to enhance grip for racking (I think the E-Z does too). Compared to most micro 380s it is a relatively 'large' gun which cuts down on recoil as further.
Got one for the wife. I think it is the easiest gun to rack that I have ever tried.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:08 PM (/lPRQ)
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She loaned me her holster and I got to shoot drawing from the holster. It was perfect. I hit the target, didn't need the latch. Felt good in my hand.
Perfect. But turns out it is a 15 rd mag. I looked and looked and although I can buy a gun with a 15 rd mag and own a 15 rd mag, I can't buy a 15 rd mag in MD. If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Perfect. But turns out it is a 15 rd mag. I looked and looked and although I can buy a gun with a 15 rd mag and own a 15 rd mag, I can't buy a 15 rd mag in MD. If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM (t/2Uw)
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But turns out it is a 15 rd mag. I looked and looked and although I can buy a gun with a 15 rd mag and own a 15 rd mag, I can't buy a 15 rd mag in MD. If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
Road Trip !
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
Road Trip !
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:11 PM (/lPRQ)
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56 ... "Revolvers do have more practical uses in your ability to switch between Special and Magnum loads. But for most, I think .38 Special/.357 Magnum will be most peoples' limit. Most people won't care to shoot anything more powerful than that other than occasionally."
Ed L,
I know that semis these days are easier to rack than previous versions. That's why I got a Smith Equalizer which is easier to rack than even the early EZ series. The articles I saw were more about recreational shooting with revolvers than about defense and about hand loading.
Ed L,
I know that semis these days are easier to rack than previous versions. That's why I got a Smith Equalizer which is easier to rack than even the early EZ series. The articles I saw were more about recreational shooting with revolvers than about defense and about hand loading.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 08:11 PM (yTvNw)
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65 Hi all
I am late because I just spent an hour trying to find a Kimber micro that takes a dot with 10 rds or ,ess mag. No luck.
Have been exploring pocket guns and wanted to rent a 380 S&W that I'd read about . It was broken. Asked about the Ruger. They didn't have it . Checked out the 43x and it is so similar to my g48 it did not seem worthwhile. So passed on renting.
SRA B,aster let me try shooting her Kimber CDs9
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:07 PM (t/2Uw)
CDS9 comes with 13 and 15 round mags - they do have 10 rounders they would probably sell them with in Maryland
I am late because I just spent an hour trying to find a Kimber micro that takes a dot with 10 rds or ,ess mag. No luck.
Have been exploring pocket guns and wanted to rent a 380 S&W that I'd read about . It was broken. Asked about the Ruger. They didn't have it . Checked out the 43x and it is so similar to my g48 it did not seem worthwhile. So passed on renting.
SRA B,aster let me try shooting her Kimber CDs9
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:07 PM (t/2Uw)
CDS9 comes with 13 and 15 round mags - they do have 10 rounders they would probably sell them with in Maryland
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 08:12 PM (NlEaG)
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never thought we needed anything other than the 2nd amendment.
_-_
Colorado was fairly libertarian when I moved here back in 2000. When I applied for a CHP, the county (El Paso County) did the permit. They said around 21 days, and I got it in 19. Now the state gets involved and drags-out the whole process. I think maybe we need more Texans or Alabamans or something!
_-_
Colorado was fairly libertarian when I moved here back in 2000. When I applied for a CHP, the county (El Paso County) did the permit. They said around 21 days, and I got it in 19. Now the state gets involved and drags-out the whole process. I think maybe we need more Texans or Alabamans or something!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at March 29, 2026 08:12 PM (UajcV)
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If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM (t/2Uw)
I was going to recommend you get them shipped to Cabelas in VA, then I remembered I was in Spamburger's Virginia.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM (t/2Uw)
I was going to recommend you get them shipped to Cabelas in VA, then I remembered I was in Spamburger's Virginia.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana! ~ at March 29, 2026 08:13 PM (hOUT3)
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I looked and looked and although I can buy a gun with a 15 rd mag and own a 15 rd mag, I can't buy a 15 rd mag in MD. If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM
Manufacturers often make "California" models w/10 rd mags. Is there one for that model?
Then go to one of the surrounding states to purchase the 15 rounder that you can have, but not buy, in MD?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM
Manufacturers often make "California" models w/10 rd mags. Is there one for that model?
Then go to one of the surrounding states to purchase the 15 rounder that you can have, but not buy, in MD?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:15 PM (0sNs1)
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Does this look like a useful thing for the range?
https://tinyurl.com/48yf65x2
I use a net bag kind of thing that velcros on and this looks more neat.
https://tinyurl.com/48yf65x2
I use a net bag kind of thing that velcros on and this looks more neat.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 08:15 PM (4NO2D)
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I decided that a 300 Blackout AR without suppressor is kinda silly so I am looking for a suppressor. I see some that are reasonably priced. But,
before I get that, I need an NFA trust for the gun and suppressor.
Are the online trust sites reliable?
Any comments on the process?
I did get an optical scope from Amazon and might switch to iron sights considering Blackout's useful range.
before I get that, I need an NFA trust for the gun and suppressor.
Are the online trust sites reliable?
Any comments on the process?
I did get an optical scope from Amazon and might switch to iron sights considering Blackout's useful range.
Posted by: Accomak at March 29, 2026 08:17 PM (wkU1F)
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Speaking of VA gun laws I do see a number of YouTube videos and the quality of what people have to say sometimes make me shake my head.
I saw a guy talking about what he was doing - kept saying "I am not a lawyer" so you know he wouldn't be liable but anyway he was wrong - like aggressively wrong about a bunch of stuff that is even current law. Raised my blood pressure and I realized it was less about what he was getting wrong but that he was leading others down a wrong path - and then I wondered was this Fed posting? Or Commonwealth posting?
I saw a guy talking about what he was doing - kept saying "I am not a lawyer" so you know he wouldn't be liable but anyway he was wrong - like aggressively wrong about a bunch of stuff that is even current law. Raised my blood pressure and I realized it was less about what he was getting wrong but that he was leading others down a wrong path - and then I wondered was this Fed posting? Or Commonwealth posting?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 08:18 PM (NlEaG)
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I know that semis these days are easier to rack than previous versions. That's why I got a Smith Equalizer which is easier to rack than even the early EZ series. The articles I saw were more about recreational shooting with revolvers than about defense and about hand loading.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 08:11 PM (yTvNw)
Ah, OK. If that's you're wanting to do, revolvers do give you more options, especially if you load your own. Whig will tell you that revolver casings are easier to reload than most semi-auto ones. They're the easiest entry path into the reloading game.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 08:11 PM (yTvNw)
Ah, OK. If that's you're wanting to do, revolvers do give you more options, especially if you load your own. Whig will tell you that revolver casings are easier to reload than most semi-auto ones. They're the easiest entry path into the reloading game.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:18 PM (BCwQW)
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Manufacturers often make "California" models w/10 rd mags. Is there one for that model?
Then go to one of the surrounding states to purchase the 15 rounder that you can have, but not buy, in MD?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:15 PM (0sNs1)
Funny the 10 rounders are more expensive than the 13 and 15s!
Kind of a pain to have to plop $80 down to buy stuff you would have gotten for free if you weren't in Maryland.
Then go to one of the surrounding states to purchase the 15 rounder that you can have, but not buy, in MD?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:15 PM (0sNs1)
Funny the 10 rounders are more expensive than the 13 and 15s!
Kind of a pain to have to plop $80 down to buy stuff you would have gotten for free if you weren't in Maryland.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at March 29, 2026 08:19 PM (NlEaG)
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Kimber does make a 10-round mag for the CDS9:
https://store.kimberamerica.com/cds9-10-round-magazine
Whether they sell a Kommiefornia version that ships with that mag is the question. Maybe call their C/S?
https://store.kimberamerica.com/cds9-10-round-magazine
Whether they sell a Kommiefornia version that ships with that mag is the question. Maybe call their C/S?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:19 PM (0sNs1)
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Kimber contact info:
Customer Service
Toll-Free: (88
243-4522
Hours: M–F, 9:30 a.m.– 6 p.m. Eastern
customerservice@kimberamerica.com
Customer Service
Toll-Free: (88
243-4522
Hours: M–F, 9:30 a.m.– 6 p.m. Eastern
customerservice@kimberamerica.com
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:21 PM (0sNs1)
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Manufacturers often make "California" models w/10 rd mags. Is there one for that model?
Then go to one of the surrounding states to purchase the 15 rounder that you can have, but not buy, in MD?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Obviously you will have to buy the gun in Maryland. Your dealer may or may not give you a 10 rnd mag(s), if he has any available... Might as well get/order the one that comes with ten rounders.
The road trip to get normal 15 rnd mags.
Then go to one of the surrounding states to purchase the 15 rounder that you can have, but not buy, in MD?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Obviously you will have to buy the gun in Maryland. Your dealer may or may not give you a 10 rnd mag(s), if he has any available... Might as well get/order the one that comes with ten rounders.
The road trip to get normal 15 rnd mags.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM (/lPRQ)
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need an NFA trust for the gun and suppressor.
Are the online trust sites reliable?
Any comments on the process?
I used these guys online and had no trouble with the ATF.
https://thetrustshop.net/
The ATF will need to have fingerprint cards and you can have those taken by your local LE. And they want a passport photo.
Are the online trust sites reliable?
Any comments on the process?
I used these guys online and had no trouble with the ATF.
https://thetrustshop.net/
The ATF will need to have fingerprint cards and you can have those taken by your local LE. And they want a passport photo.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM (4NO2D)
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I got 30 round mags from Magpul shipped to my home in Accomack. A FFL in Maryland had the same rifle in stock for less than guns.com but with 10 round mag.
Posted by: Accomak at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM (wkU1F)
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A relative may be relocating to CT. I took a look at the gun laws. AYFKM?
10 round mags, no “assault rifles” (Ruger Mini 14 ok as long as no folding stock; all ARs verboten).
No f’ing way.
10 round mags, no “assault rifles” (Ruger Mini 14 ok as long as no folding stock; all ARs verboten).
No f’ing way.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 08:23 PM (lqzPE)
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Does this look like a useful thing for the range?
https://tinyurl.com/48yf65x2
I use a net bag kind of thing that velcros on and this looks more neat.
Posted by: toby928(c)
Link saved.
For $25 it might be worth trying out.
If no-worky no big loss.
Another similar item was, IIRC, "the Brass Goat". It costs a lot more so never got one.
https://tinyurl.com/48yf65x2
I use a net bag kind of thing that velcros on and this looks more neat.
Posted by: toby928(c)
Link saved.
For $25 it might be worth trying out.
If no-worky no big loss.
Another similar item was, IIRC, "the Brass Goat". It costs a lot more so never got one.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:24 PM (/lPRQ)
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When I bought my suppressor, the local gun shop called someone who came to the shop to do my fingerprint cards. I was surprised, to say the least. $20.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (UJMvS)
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69 She loaned me her holster and I got to shoot drawing from the holster. It was perfect. I hit the target, didn't need the latch. Felt good in my hand.
Perfect. But turns out it is a 15 rd mag. I looked and looked and although I can buy a gun with a 15 rd mag and own a 15 rd mag, I can't buy a 15 rd mag in MD. If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM (t/2Uw)
Saint John Moses Browning will now read the holy writ. 'If, in thy village, the overseers limit you to ten rounds, there is a thing called eight round magazine. Two to the chest, one to the head, one to the pelvic girdle, with four to spare, plus the one you had in the chamber to begin with. That makes nine rounds of glorious .45 ACP still under the illegal ten round law.'
Perfect. But turns out it is a 15 rd mag. I looked and looked and although I can buy a gun with a 15 rd mag and own a 15 rd mag, I can't buy a 15 rd mag in MD. If I get gun shipped to my local FFL, they can't give me the mags.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:10 PM (t/2Uw)
Saint John Moses Browning will now read the holy writ. 'If, in thy village, the overseers limit you to ten rounds, there is a thing called eight round magazine. Two to the chest, one to the head, one to the pelvic girdle, with four to spare, plus the one you had in the chamber to begin with. That makes nine rounds of glorious .45 ACP still under the illegal ten round law.'
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (LHPAg)
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76 ... " Does this look like a useful thing for the range?
https://tinyurl.com/48yf65x2
I use a net bag kind of thing that velcros on and this looks more neat."
The guys I see with brass catchers at the range use what is essentially a fishing net on a weighted stand. It can be positioned as needed for whatever gun they are using. Seems to work. Don't know about the gadget in the link.
https://tinyurl.com/48yf65x2
I use a net bag kind of thing that velcros on and this looks more neat."
The guys I see with brass catchers at the range use what is essentially a fishing net on a weighted stand. It can be positioned as needed for whatever gun they are using. Seems to work. Don't know about the gadget in the link.
Posted by: JTB at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (yTvNw)
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That makes nine rounds of glorious .45 ACP still under the illegal ten round law.'
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (LHPAg)
Verily. ‘sTruth.
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (LHPAg)
Verily. ‘sTruth.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 08:26 PM (lqzPE)
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Anyone else notice this or is it just my imagination?
Posted by: JTB
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They are especially for first time trigger pullers. The only caveat is snubbies can have some fairly harsh recoil and be difficult to shoot without practice.
To shoot snubbies well, you have to follow Weasel's guidance on managing a trigger and do a full reset each time you pull it. And double action triggers take a longer time to master along with the short sight distance.
And learning to shoot one by cocking it for single action is not advisable as most beginning users don't know how to decock one and even experienced types do so with trepidation and a good backstop. And reloading a snubbie has to be practiced religiously if you want more than 5-6 shots.
If you are a newcomer to firearms and want a revolver, get a used police model with a 4 inch barrel as these were the easiest revolvers to learn to shoot well. They are not the most concealable though if you plan to carry outside of the home. Then consider a semi auto.
Posted by: JTB
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They are especially for first time trigger pullers. The only caveat is snubbies can have some fairly harsh recoil and be difficult to shoot without practice.
To shoot snubbies well, you have to follow Weasel's guidance on managing a trigger and do a full reset each time you pull it. And double action triggers take a longer time to master along with the short sight distance.
And learning to shoot one by cocking it for single action is not advisable as most beginning users don't know how to decock one and even experienced types do so with trepidation and a good backstop. And reloading a snubbie has to be practiced religiously if you want more than 5-6 shots.
If you are a newcomer to firearms and want a revolver, get a used police model with a 4 inch barrel as these were the easiest revolvers to learn to shoot well. They are not the most concealable though if you plan to carry outside of the home. Then consider a semi auto.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:26 PM (E4rtv)
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Obviously you will have to buy the gun in Maryland. Your dealer may or may not give you a 10 rnd mag(s), if he has any available... Might as well get/order the one that comes with ten rounders.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM
Not necessarily true. You can 'purchase' a handgun in another state, IF you're legal to buy a handgun (21 or over, clean 4473) AND the handgun is legal in your state.
Assuming that, you can 'buy' the handgun in the other state, and have the FFL ship it to a FFL in your home state, where you'll actually do the paperwork and take possession legally.
This is probably not particularly efficacious in Sharon's case.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM
Not necessarily true. You can 'purchase' a handgun in another state, IF you're legal to buy a handgun (21 or over, clean 4473) AND the handgun is legal in your state.
Assuming that, you can 'buy' the handgun in the other state, and have the FFL ship it to a FFL in your home state, where you'll actually do the paperwork and take possession legally.
This is probably not particularly efficacious in Sharon's case.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:27 PM (0sNs1)
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The gun is listed as non California, non MA compliant so can't be so,d there at all.
Bass Pro which is MD has the gun on the website. Because of the extended mag, I don't think it can take a 10 rd. The separate mag I saw was only for 6-8 rd models. Cabelas and Bass Pro are same Co. if I can buy in VA and then have the gun shipped to ass Pro and pick up the mags in VA that would work but lots of hassle. BP is in Hanover which is a trek. Cabelas in VA not that far from the range. Strange that not everyone carries Kimber.
Bass Pro which is MD has the gun on the website. Because of the extended mag, I don't think it can take a 10 rd. The separate mag I saw was only for 6-8 rd models. Cabelas and Bass Pro are same Co. if I can buy in VA and then have the gun shipped to ass Pro and pick up the mags in VA that would work but lots of hassle. BP is in Hanover which is a trek. Cabelas in VA not that far from the range. Strange that not everyone carries Kimber.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:28 PM (t/2Uw)
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Posted by: Accomak at March 29, 2026 08:17 PM (wkU1F)
Some more questions about your build:
-Have you considered adjustable gas blocks? The suppressor on a DI AR will (by design) push more gas back into the gas tube, the barrel, and the receiver. Can your gas tube handle the additional pressures a suppressor will create? Too much pressure can burst your gas tube. Adjustable gas blocks redirect that pressure forward instead of into the firearm.
- Will your bolt/bolt carrier direct this gas into your face out from the ejection port? This is not a pleasant experience.
- The gap between the charging handle and the upper receiver is NOT gas tight. Most people using iron sights will have their cheeks next to the charging handle. Even if you don't, you will probably breathe in propellant gases as they leak out of that gap between the charging handle and upper receiver. Consider getting a gas tight charging handle. Propellant gases are known carcinogens. Even if you don't get cancer, they can still make you sick.
Some more questions about your build:
-Have you considered adjustable gas blocks? The suppressor on a DI AR will (by design) push more gas back into the gas tube, the barrel, and the receiver. Can your gas tube handle the additional pressures a suppressor will create? Too much pressure can burst your gas tube. Adjustable gas blocks redirect that pressure forward instead of into the firearm.
- Will your bolt/bolt carrier direct this gas into your face out from the ejection port? This is not a pleasant experience.
- The gap between the charging handle and the upper receiver is NOT gas tight. Most people using iron sights will have their cheeks next to the charging handle. Even if you don't, you will probably breathe in propellant gases as they leak out of that gap between the charging handle and upper receiver. Consider getting a gas tight charging handle. Propellant gases are known carcinogens. Even if you don't get cancer, they can still make you sick.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:28 PM (BCwQW)
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Good grief, all of these regulations. From a gun standpoint, the move to AZ has been nothing short of a revelation.
Need a suppressor? No problem. 30 round magazine for your semi-auto? Check out the fifty round one we have over here.
Etc.
Need a suppressor? No problem. 30 round magazine for your semi-auto? Check out the fifty round one we have over here.
Etc.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 08:29 PM (UJMvS)
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The guys I see with brass catchers at the range use what is essentially a fishing net on a weighted stand. It can be positioned as needed for whatever gun they are using. Seems to work. Don't know about the gadget in the link.
Posted by: JTB
I seen a guy using a fishnet device with a semi handgun.
Might be homemade but it worked really well once positioned.
Posted by: JTB
I seen a guy using a fishnet device with a semi handgun.
Might be homemade but it worked really well once positioned.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 29, 2026 08:30 PM (/lPRQ)
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62 My revolver is the first gun I have picked up that just felt like an extension of my hand.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Smith K Frame revolvers, Browning High Powers, and Smith 2nd and 3rd Generation semi automatics are like that for most people without much if any grip alteration whether you have small or large hands.
Not that you find many of them around anymore, but Colt New Service and Colt E Frame (Official Police) can be with the right grips.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Smith K Frame revolvers, Browning High Powers, and Smith 2nd and 3rd Generation semi automatics are like that for most people without much if any grip alteration whether you have small or large hands.
Not that you find many of them around anymore, but Colt New Service and Colt E Frame (Official Police) can be with the right grips.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:30 PM (E4rtv)
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There are 10-round .45ACP magazines for the 1911, if you don't mind some extra magazine hanging low and ready to go.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:31 PM (0sNs1)
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91 That makes nine rounds of glorious .45 ACP still under the illegal ten round law.'
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (LHPAg)
This is one time that math is allowed on AoS!
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:25 PM (LHPAg)
This is one time that math is allowed on AoS!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ THIS year in Corsicana! ~ at March 29, 2026 08:32 PM (hOUT3)
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Waiting for scores to be posted for the spawns competition this weekend. She only shot 4 guns this competition. She usually shoots 6+. This competition was tougher because one stage which was very tricky. It's called "pop quiz". 4 small round plates and 1 large rectangular plate. One 10" circle on each side standing alone, 2 12" circles behind the rectangle with only half showing from each side of the rectangle which is hanging vertically, and the round 12" stop plate in front of the rectangle plate. The rectangle is 18"x24". If you hit the rectangle it's a 3 second penalty. There were very few kids who shot a clean stage. This stage adds seconds to kids normal times because it's hard.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 29, 2026 08:32 PM (VCgbV)
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The ATF will need to have fingerprint cards and you can have those taken by your local LE. And they want a passport photo.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM (4NO2D)
HIGHLY recommend that you submit digital copies of both. Digital copies will get approved a LOT faster than paper copies. For individual Form 1s or Form 4s, digital copies can get turned around in as little as 72 hours. Paper submissions will still take six or more months. Your choice.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 08:22 PM (4NO2D)
HIGHLY recommend that you submit digital copies of both. Digital copies will get approved a LOT faster than paper copies. For individual Form 1s or Form 4s, digital copies can get turned around in as little as 72 hours. Paper submissions will still take six or more months. Your choice.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:33 PM (BCwQW)
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This is probably not particularly efficacious in Sharon's case.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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If you don't mind firing older firearms, a C&R (aka Collector's) license allows you to get firearms shipped to your home in many places or to the nearest FFL in those that don't allow such freedoms. Only catch is that your firearms bought (including handguns) have to be made 50 years or ago or more.
You also have to deal with teh ATF, keep a bound volume of your purchases, and the license is good for three years. Fingerprints, and background check required.
Some online vendors still give discounts to C&R holders.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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If you don't mind firing older firearms, a C&R (aka Collector's) license allows you to get firearms shipped to your home in many places or to the nearest FFL in those that don't allow such freedoms. Only catch is that your firearms bought (including handguns) have to be made 50 years or ago or more.
You also have to deal with teh ATF, keep a bound volume of your purchases, and the license is good for three years. Fingerprints, and background check required.
Some online vendors still give discounts to C&R holders.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:34 PM (E4rtv)
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lin-duh, are the scores on practiscore?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 08:35 PM (UJMvS)
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The one thing they don't tell you is what the vacuum tube can do when it's filled with radioactive material. New ball game.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at March 29, 2026 08:36 PM (Fbc0I)
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Most people using iron sights will have their cheeks next to the charging handle. Even if you don't, you will probably breathe in propellant gases as they leak out of that gap between the charging handle and upper receiver. Consider getting a gas tight charging handle. Propellant gases are known carcinogens. Even if you don't get cancer, they can still make you sick.
Posted by: Ed L
There are also two different manufacturers of adjustable gas keys which can be used instead of an adjustable gas block on existing AR setups if you don't want to mess with changing the gas block. They replace the gas key on a std. bolt. Rubber City Armory and Sun Devil? or some such sold them. RCA is more available at different places.
Posted by: Ed L
There are also two different manufacturers of adjustable gas keys which can be used instead of an adjustable gas block on existing AR setups if you don't want to mess with changing the gas block. They replace the gas key on a std. bolt. Rubber City Armory and Sun Devil? or some such sold them. RCA is more available at different places.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:37 PM (E4rtv)
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The more Highway Patrol I watch, the easier it is to believe that Broderick Crawford was a raging alcoholic. (But his one-shot kill rate with a snubnose revolver is still impressive.)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at March 29, 2026 08:37 PM (t2oSI)
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Not that you find many of them around anymore, but Colt New Service and Colt E Frame (Official Police) can be with the right grips.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:30 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, aren't Colt Python grips compatible with Colt Official Police frames? IIRC, the difference between the E Frame (Official Police) and I Frame (Python) was the E Frame had the hammer mounted firing pins. The Python had an internal firing pin. On paper at least, the Python grips (even current production ones) should work on the Official Police.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:30 PM (E4rtv)
Whig, aren't Colt Python grips compatible with Colt Official Police frames? IIRC, the difference between the E Frame (Official Police) and I Frame (Python) was the E Frame had the hammer mounted firing pins. The Python had an internal firing pin. On paper at least, the Python grips (even current production ones) should work on the Official Police.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:38 PM (BCwQW)
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Hey morons,
AOP, The Nurse, Lazy Messenger just got done having dinner in Monroe. A good time was had by all.
We did talk guns a little, mostly about projects and fix-it plans for AOP's collection. Mostly just hanging out in person.
AOP, The Nurse, Lazy Messenger just got done having dinner in Monroe. A good time was had by all.
We did talk guns a little, mostly about projects and fix-it plans for AOP's collection. Mostly just hanging out in person.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at March 29, 2026 08:39 PM (xcxpd)
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Following on the Israeli pager …
The “Ukrainian Hotfoot”
A newly reported operation suggests Kyiv may have found another low-cost way to disrupt Russian forces away from the front line: heated insoles allegedly rigged with small explosive charges and sent through volunteer aid channels.
According to Ukrainian outlet Militarnyi, operatives from Ukraine’s special services allegedly inserted explosive-filled heated insoles into shipments destined for Russian military units. The items were reportedly moved with the help of Russian volunteers and charitable foundations, allowing them to pass as ordinary humanitarian aid.
The “Ukrainian Hotfoot”
A newly reported operation suggests Kyiv may have found another low-cost way to disrupt Russian forces away from the front line: heated insoles allegedly rigged with small explosive charges and sent through volunteer aid channels.
According to Ukrainian outlet Militarnyi, operatives from Ukraine’s special services allegedly inserted explosive-filled heated insoles into shipments destined for Russian military units. The items were reportedly moved with the help of Russian volunteers and charitable foundations, allowing them to pass as ordinary humanitarian aid.
Posted by: SMOD at March 29, 2026 08:39 PM (O7XEN)
Posted by: Weasel at March 29, 2026 08:40 PM (FUvyF)
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also did hit the range yesterday but forgot to bring 9mm ammo!
So it was a .22 LR day, since I always have some of that on hand. So I did make holes in paper with my G44 and it wasn't a wasted trip or anything.
So it was a .22 LR day, since I always have some of that on hand. So I did make holes in paper with my G44 and it wasn't a wasted trip or anything.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at March 29, 2026 08:41 PM (xcxpd)
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Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!
Posted by: DBCooper at March 29, 2026 08:42 PM (C/U/L)
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Blake,
SASP has the scores but they aren't posted yet. She only shot 2 matches in practiscore.
SASP has the scores but they aren't posted yet. She only shot 2 matches in practiscore.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 29, 2026 08:42 PM (VCgbV)
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Blake,
SASP has the scores but they aren't posted yet. She only shot 2 matches in practiscore.
SASP has the scores but they aren't posted yet. She only shot 2 matches in practiscore.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 29, 2026 08:42 PM (VCgbV)
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So... I'll have to dig up more on the hows of longer distance shootey...
The young'n showed up with a new (to him) Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 Creedmore equipped w/a nice scope setup.
We'll need the 100 yard range to start.
The young'n showed up with a new (to him) Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 Creedmore equipped w/a nice scope setup.
We'll need the 100 yard range to start.
Posted by: man at March 29, 2026 08:43 PM (XuXeR)
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I dealt with the gas issue on my suppressed 300blk house gun by using both an adjustable gasblock and a side charging upper.
https://flic.kr/p/2n8fVYA
Since I used a 9.5" barrel to keep the length normal with this giant can, I had to make it a pistol, which keeps me from having a vertical foregrip like I would prefer.
https://flic.kr/p/2n8fVYA
Since I used a 9.5" barrel to keep the length normal with this giant can, I had to make it a pistol, which keeps me from having a vertical foregrip like I would prefer.
Posted by: toby928(c) at March 29, 2026 08:43 PM (4NO2D)
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According to Ukrainian outlet Militarnyi, operatives from Ukraine’s special services allegedly inserted explosive-filled heated insoles into shipments destined for Russian military units. The items were reportedly moved with the help of Russian volunteers and charitable foundations, allowing them to pass as ordinary humanitarian aid.
Posted by: SMOD at March 29, 2026 08:39 PM (O7XEN)
Considering that most donated materials are looted by Russian unit commanders and higher ranking officers before they ever reach Ivan and Pavel, this tactic may be even more effective than it may first appear. Even if it's just a rumor, it's got to have an effect on Russian morale.
Posted by: SMOD at March 29, 2026 08:39 PM (O7XEN)
Considering that most donated materials are looted by Russian unit commanders and higher ranking officers before they ever reach Ivan and Pavel, this tactic may be even more effective than it may first appear. Even if it's just a rumor, it's got to have an effect on Russian morale.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:44 PM (BCwQW)
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The items were reportedly moved with the help of Russian volunteers and charitable foundations, allowing them to pass as ordinary humanitarian aid.
Posted by: SMOD at March 29, 2026 08:39 PM (O7XEN)
Huh. Sabotaging humanitarian aid. Ill wait for the war crimes people to chime in.
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Anyone?
Posted by: SMOD at March 29, 2026 08:39 PM (O7XEN)
Huh. Sabotaging humanitarian aid. Ill wait for the war crimes people to chime in.
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Anyone?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 29, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s)
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also did hit the range yesterday but forgot to bring 9mm ammo!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at March 29, 2026 08:41 PM
CBD is gonna ask if that meant nurse had no opportunity to shoot.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at March 29, 2026 08:41 PM
CBD is gonna ask if that meant nurse had no opportunity to shoot.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:46 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Accomak at March 29, 2026 08:47 PM (wkU1F)
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Re EdL comments
The old classic revolver cases are straight walled and many are low pressure in 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R, and 38 or 44 Special. Not much stress on the brass nor much effort to resize the brass. 45 ACP or 45 Colt are likewise very friendly to reloaders--straight wall, low pressure cartridge.
44 Magnum brass, with a full hunting load, can be tough to resize and that goes for the other dinosaur hunting rounds as well. But all revolvers are generous on bullet selection.
Semi-autos
40 S&W is not tricky on brass but rather loads are sensitive to spikes in a high pressure cartridge. 9mm is not difficult but it is a tapered case and you have to really be careful of seating depth.
And bottleneck cases whether revolver or semi auto can be a pain in the butt. The old cowboy 32-40, 38-40, and 44-40 have a very slight neck and it is very easy to ruin brass resizing if not careful. The 357 Sig is a pig to reload as the short neck and high pressure means care needed. Old and odd rounds like 38 Super can vary how the pistol is headspaced and bullet selection for semi autos means paying close attention to how deep your bullet seats in the case and crimping to avoid setback.
The old classic revolver cases are straight walled and many are low pressure in 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R, and 38 or 44 Special. Not much stress on the brass nor much effort to resize the brass. 45 ACP or 45 Colt are likewise very friendly to reloaders--straight wall, low pressure cartridge.
44 Magnum brass, with a full hunting load, can be tough to resize and that goes for the other dinosaur hunting rounds as well. But all revolvers are generous on bullet selection.
Semi-autos
40 S&W is not tricky on brass but rather loads are sensitive to spikes in a high pressure cartridge. 9mm is not difficult but it is a tapered case and you have to really be careful of seating depth.
And bottleneck cases whether revolver or semi auto can be a pain in the butt. The old cowboy 32-40, 38-40, and 44-40 have a very slight neck and it is very easy to ruin brass resizing if not careful. The 357 Sig is a pig to reload as the short neck and high pressure means care needed. Old and odd rounds like 38 Super can vary how the pistol is headspaced and bullet selection for semi autos means paying close attention to how deep your bullet seats in the case and crimping to avoid setback.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:47 PM (E4rtv)
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lin-duh, Ace the cat just meowed that she hopes y'all are doing well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:48 PM (0sNs1)
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JTB, I do wonder what is good for self defense to look for as both vision and grip strength decline
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (eZ5tL)
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Range Report:
The weather moderated enough up here to take the Ruger 10-22 out and do a ballistics table work up for CCI Standard 40 g. LRN ammo. 50, 100, 200 and 300 on 5” paddles from a dueling tree.
It’s so nice hearing a tiny little “ting” as lead meets steel.
If you are interested, I did a couple of posts over at my place.
If you don’t have a 10-22, why not? It’s probably the best/most fun all round semi auto on the planet.
The weather moderated enough up here to take the Ruger 10-22 out and do a ballistics table work up for CCI Standard 40 g. LRN ammo. 50, 100, 200 and 300 on 5” paddles from a dueling tree.
It’s so nice hearing a tiny little “ting” as lead meets steel.
If you are interested, I did a couple of posts over at my place.
If you don’t have a 10-22, why not? It’s probably the best/most fun all round semi auto on the planet.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (fRFTM)
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I had no idea Israel’s gun laws were so strict.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
You would think they would be more cognizant of Nehemiah's view of arming oneself. Especially around Jerusalem.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
You would think they would be more cognizant of Nehemiah's view of arming oneself. Especially around Jerusalem.
Posted by: GWB at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (5tsvC)
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Of all the easiest to reload though, 38 Special and 45 ACP are top ones to start with. 9mm is not difficult but you have to measure your time versus buying on that one.
Rifles and shotguns are a whole nother matter.
Rifles and shotguns are a whole nother matter.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (E4rtv)
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100 rounds is nothing. I probably have that rolling around loose in various bags and the car...
Posted by: lin-duh at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (VCgbV)
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Huh. Sabotaging humanitarian aid. Ill wait for the war crimes people to chime in.
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Anyone?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 29, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s)
Considering that the Russians have been treating the Geneva Conventions as the "Geneva Suggestions" for four years now, they're about as sympathetic as the Germans complaining about US use of trench guns (pump action shotguns) in WWI as war crime worthy when they were the first to unleash poison gas and flamethrowers.
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Anyone?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 29, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s)
Considering that the Russians have been treating the Geneva Conventions as the "Geneva Suggestions" for four years now, they're about as sympathetic as the Germans complaining about US use of trench guns (pump action shotguns) in WWI as war crime worthy when they were the first to unleash poison gas and flamethrowers.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:50 PM (BCwQW)
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Duncanthrax,
Tell Ace hello from us!
Tell Ace hello from us!
Posted by: lin-duh at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (VCgbV)
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86 A relative may be relocating to CT. I took a look at the gun laws. AYFKM?
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My impression is that NH is the only state in that general area worth moving to in terms of gun laws; haven't looked closely though.
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My impression is that NH is the only state in that general area worth moving to in terms of gun laws; haven't looked closely though.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (eZ5tL)
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Huh. Sabotaging humanitarian aid. Ill wait for the war crimes people to chime in.
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Anyone?
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Potentially. As insoles are a weird thing to consider "war materials."
*shrugs*
Not my monkeys... etc.
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Anyone?
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Potentially. As insoles are a weird thing to consider "war materials."
*shrugs*
Not my monkeys... etc.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (AkEZC)
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And bottleneck cases whether revolver or semi auto can be a pain in the butt. The old cowboy 32-40, 38-40, and 44-40 have a very slight neck and it is very easy to ruin brass resizing if not careful. The 357 Sig is a pig to reload as the short neck and high pressure means care needed. Old and odd rounds like 38 Super can vary how the pistol is headspaced and bullet selection for semi autos means paying close attention to how deep your bullet seats in the case and crimping to avoid setback.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:47 PM
No love and/or advice for me?
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:47 PM
No love and/or advice for me?
Posted by: 5.7x28 at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (0sNs1)
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117 I dealt with the gas issue on my suppressed 300blk house gun by using both an adjustable gasblock and a side charging upper.
https://flic.kr/p/2n8fVYA
Since I used a 9.5" barrel to keep the length normal with this giant can, I had to make it a pistol, which keeps me from having a vertical foregrip like I would prefer.
Posted by: toby928(c)
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That would be the way to do it. 300 BLK is meant for short barrels and close in shooting. Plus being suppressed.
https://flic.kr/p/2n8fVYA
Since I used a 9.5" barrel to keep the length normal with this giant can, I had to make it a pistol, which keeps me from having a vertical foregrip like I would prefer.
Posted by: toby928(c)
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That would be the way to do it. 300 BLK is meant for short barrels and close in shooting. Plus being suppressed.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (E4rtv)
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A blessed Holy Week and a blessed Passover to all you horde of arms.
May the Lord protect you always, and Archangel Michael defend you in battle
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 07:19 PM (tcsrY)
Thank you, vmom. And a peaceful one to you, as well.
BTW, we're naming the armed portion of our safety and security team "Team Michael." And the medical part is "Team Raphael."
May the Lord protect you always, and Archangel Michael defend you in battle
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 07:19 PM (tcsrY)
Thank you, vmom. And a peaceful one to you, as well.
BTW, we're naming the armed portion of our safety and security team "Team Michael." And the medical part is "Team Raphael."
Posted by: GWB at March 29, 2026 08:53 PM (5tsvC)
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Thanks, lin-duh. I'll keep an eye out.
Hah, found the web site. Huh, I don't see spawn listed as a competitor.
Weird.
Hah, found the web site. Huh, I don't see spawn listed as a competitor.
Weird.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 08:53 PM (UJMvS)
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BTW, we're naming the armed portion of our safety and security team "Team Michael." And the medical part is "Team Raphael."
Posted by: GWB
I love that!
I suppose comms could be Team Gabriel?
Posted by: GWB
I love that!
I suppose comms could be Team Gabriel?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 08:54 PM (eZ5tL)
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44 Magnum brass, with a full hunting load, can be tough to resize and that goes for the other dinosaur hunting rounds as well. But all revolvers are generous on bullet selection.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:47 PM
* sobs manfully *
Bullet selection for the .41 Magnum is not what it should be. The slow twist doesn't facilitate heavy-for-caliber projectiles. Sad!
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:47 PM
* sobs manfully *
Bullet selection for the .41 Magnum is not what it should be. The slow twist doesn't facilitate heavy-for-caliber projectiles. Sad!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:54 PM (0sNs1)
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No love and/or advice for me?
Posted by: 5.7x28
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I once reloaded some 25 Auto on a dare--tiny bullets, eyestrain and pain to seat bullet, etc. Massive pita and 5.7x28 just combines that problem with a bottleneck case.
The sad thing is both are really cartridges that would benefit costwise and availability from reloading.
I've avoided some fine revolvers though in 44-40 or 38-40 just because brass and ammo is a major pain. I have a 32-20 and that is enough of a pain and cost in brass and ammo. Basically resembles a 32 H&R magnum in ballistics.
Posted by: 5.7x28
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I once reloaded some 25 Auto on a dare--tiny bullets, eyestrain and pain to seat bullet, etc. Massive pita and 5.7x28 just combines that problem with a bottleneck case.
The sad thing is both are really cartridges that would benefit costwise and availability from reloading.
I've avoided some fine revolvers though in 44-40 or 38-40 just because brass and ammo is a major pain. I have a 32-20 and that is enough of a pain and cost in brass and ammo. Basically resembles a 32 H&R magnum in ballistics.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:55 PM (E4rtv)
Posted by: lin-duh at March 29, 2026 08:55 PM (VCgbV)
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The other part of my range report. Ed, Hrothgar and I tried shooting several different guns one handed. We used a small silhouette at 8 yds. I was really pleased when I was able to shoot Ed's 007 gun and hit the guy in the chest. I also used my Glock but it has a dot so not as rewarding. Still it's fun to change things up.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 29, 2026 08:56 PM (t/2Uw)
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126 I had no idea Israel’s gun laws were so strict.
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
You would think they would be more cognizant of Nehemiah's view of arming oneself. Especially around Jerusalem.
Posted by: GWB at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (5tsvC)
And all GOD's children say Amen!
Posted by: Cow Demon at March 29, 2026 07:18 PM (hJH5n)
You would think they would be more cognizant of Nehemiah's view of arming oneself. Especially around Jerusalem.
Posted by: GWB at March 29, 2026 08:49 PM (5tsvC)
And all GOD's children say Amen!
Posted by: Eromero at March 29, 2026 08:56 PM (LHPAg)
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Israel has never had the "Minuteman" legacy we inherited from the first clashes w/ the Indians on the frontier before 1775.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM (BCwQW)
I would say MODERN Israel. Ancient Israel (I mentioned Nehemiah above) certainly had the concept.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 07:26 PM (BCwQW)
I would say MODERN Israel. Ancient Israel (I mentioned Nehemiah above) certainly had the concept.
Posted by: GWB at March 29, 2026 08:56 PM (5tsvC)
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My impression is that NH is the only state in that general area worth moving to in terms of gun laws; haven't looked closely though.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (eZ5tL)
That’s why I live in NH, vmom. VT is constitutional carry, but they are also crazy.
We are landlocked by NY, MA and CT for travel, unfortunately.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at March 29, 2026 08:51 PM (eZ5tL)
That’s why I live in NH, vmom. VT is constitutional carry, but they are also crazy.
We are landlocked by NY, MA and CT for travel, unfortunately.
Posted by: RI Red at March 29, 2026 08:56 PM (fRFTM)
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and 5.7x28 just combines that problem with a bottleneck case.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:55 PM
I always thought the big issue was the lacquered brass?
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:55 PM
I always thought the big issue was the lacquered brass?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 29, 2026 08:57 PM (0sNs1)
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* sobs manfully *
Bullet selection for the .41 Magnum is not what it should be. The slow twist doesn't facilitate heavy-for-caliber projectiles. Sad!
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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For you my friend, take up bullet swaging or casting. As the crop of that rare breed are dying off, there are presses, molds, and dies out there for that nowadays.
Fred Huntington started post WWII, swaging 22 Centerfire wildcats and using 22 LR brass cases for the bullet jacket. That was the start of RCBS.
Bullet selection for the .41 Magnum is not what it should be. The slow twist doesn't facilitate heavy-for-caliber projectiles. Sad!
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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For you my friend, take up bullet swaging or casting. As the crop of that rare breed are dying off, there are presses, molds, and dies out there for that nowadays.
Fred Huntington started post WWII, swaging 22 Centerfire wildcats and using 22 LR brass cases for the bullet jacket. That was the start of RCBS.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 08:57 PM (E4rtv)
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Huh. Sabotaging humanitarian aid. Ill wait for the war crimes people to chime in.
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Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 29, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s)
If the targets are Russian soldiers, they're (mostly) fair game. Since this Russian aid is supposed to (emphasis of "supposed") go to front line troops, they're an acceptable target. Whether that actually happens is another story. Sabotaging medical supplies like that would be a much clearer violation.
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Anyone?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 29, 2026 08:45 PM (zZu0s)
If the targets are Russian soldiers, they're (mostly) fair game. Since this Russian aid is supposed to (emphasis of "supposed") go to front line troops, they're an acceptable target. Whether that actually happens is another story. Sabotaging medical supplies like that would be a much clearer violation.
Posted by: Ed L at March 29, 2026 08:58 PM (BCwQW)
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at March 29, 2026 08:59 PM (UJMvS)
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I always thought the big issue was the lacquered brass?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Lacquer thinner is a thing but most of the ammo I've seen doesn't use that. You do have to use resizing wax and trim cases though.
I do know that FN had some super sekret police and military only type rounds but I have never seen them.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Lacquer thinner is a thing but most of the ammo I've seen doesn't use that. You do have to use resizing wax and trim cases though.
I do know that FN had some super sekret police and military only type rounds but I have never seen them.
Posted by: whig at March 29, 2026 09:00 PM (E4rtv)
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