Report: Fulton County, GA -- Home of Fanny Willis and Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum, Esq. -- Had 25,000 MoreAbsentee <i>Votes</i> in 2020 Than Absentee <i>Voters</i>

Report: Fulton County, GA -- Home of Fanny Willis and Darrius "Sweetdick" Honeycum, Esq. -- Had 25,000 MoreAbsentee Votes in 2020 Than Absentee Voters

Whoops!

Whoopsie!

Cleta Mitchell
@CletaMitchell
And here's the REAL kicker about the 2020 Fulton County absentee ballots:
148,319 absentee ballots were counted in the 2020 General Election from Fulton County...
but only 125,784 voters are recorded as casting an absentee ballot.
There are 25,534 more ballots counted than there are voters recorded as having voted by absentee ballot in Fulton County in 2020.
Remember: the margin between President Trump and Joe Biden was 11,779 votes...and that was the THIRD certified number and didn't match either of the first two counts....the counties could not get their numbers to match from the first count to the second to the third.....@GaSecofState
Brad Raffensperger has NEVER explained that...
The full report can be accessed here: @KevinMoncla
https://x.com/KevinMoncla/status/2016989656307367970?s=20

@EIwatchdogs @BasedMikeLee @chiproytx @gc22gc

The full report is here.

Roger Kimball at the Spectator: We're approaching the real endgame of the 2020 election.

In the 2020 election, Donald Trump was ahead in Georgia by some 100,000 votes until, vesto-presto, there were mysterious leaks with no water and, by George, Biden pulled ahead by some 11,000 votes. We all remember the allegations of election workers raising the alarm over the low count for Biden or apparently doing their utmost to increase his vote share, as well as the accounts of curiously pristine mail-in ballots.
The FBI has a lot of sifting and sorting to accomplish in the weeks and months ahead. An ongoing court case claims that 150,000 mail-in ballots in Fulton County were suspicious (my cautious word for "fake") because they weren't creased and didn't look like they were marked by hand. Officially, Sleepy Joe was the first Democrat to gain more than 70 percent of the vote in Fulton since Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1944. The FBI analysis of mail-in ballots might show him to be as popular in Fulton as Castro was in Cuba or Stalin was in the Soviet Union.
There are also hard drives to be inspected and electronic voting machines to be vetted. Remember the allegations that voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems had been hacked? Dominion (now "Liberty Vote") collected some $787 million in damages from Fox News over the story. It will be interesting to see what sort of follow-up there is to those allegations.
Meanwhile, the Democrats have not been idle. New York Representative Dan Goldman has filed an amendment to prevent the Trump administration from investigating election records, ballot boxes, and voting machines across the country. Yes, really. Been there, done that. "What difference, at this point, does it make?" as Hillary Clinton famously put it, on the matter of Benghazi.
...
Commenting on the tsunami of news crashing out from Georgia, the great Cleta Mitchell, who advised President Trump when he contested the Georgia election results, noted that on the morning of election day, November 4, 2020, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Trump led by 103K votes with only 94K ballots left. "Four days later," Mitchell noted:

[T]here were 300K more ballots, including 148K absentee ballots from Fulton County. That's 25,535 more ballots than voters, more than double Biden's margin. Over 133K ballot images were deleted. Zero of 148 Fulton County tabulators had the required tapes. Nearly 7K fictitious ballots remain certified, and no one investigated.
Then there is the news about Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Grand jury testimony that was just unsealed revealed that Kemp told the chief of Georgia Bureau of Investigation not to investigation allegations of fraud in the 2020 election, Saying he was a "team player," the official dropped the case.

The mask is being ripped off as I write. A Gestalt shift in The Narrative is underway.

As you know, 99% of the lawsuits filed to contest the rigged 2020 election were tossed out due to the judges deciding that the candidates in the races did not have "standing" -- a recognizable legal interest -- to challenge the rules which determine the outcome of the races.

This was absurd then and it's absurd now. (And it was also very dishonest for the partisan Democrat media to bleat that judges had examined all of these allegations and found them meritless. No -- it dismissed the lawsuits without ever examining the allegations.)

Three weeks ago, the Supreme Court injected some sanity back into election contests, determining that, yes, the actual candidates in elections do have legal standing to challenge election rules.

Like whether or not you verify signatures or not.

n a surprisingly sweeping opinion issued Wednesday, a five-justice majority in Bost v. Illinois State Board of Elections held that a federal congressional candidate had a legal right to sue, known as standing, in federal court to challenge an Illinois law that allows mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day to be counted as many as 14 days later. Reversing lower federal court rulings that denied Rep. Michael Bost (R-Ill.) standing to sue, the majority opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts adopted a categorical rule upholding candidate standing based on a candidate's inherent interest in "the integrity of the election" and the "democratic process."
The vote was 7-2 in favor of Bost, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett, joined by Justice Elena Kagan, agreeing with the result that the majority reached but not its reasoning. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, joined in dissent by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, would have affirmed the lower courts' denial of standing.
Under the "case or controversy" clause of Article III of the Constitution, plaintiffs in federal court only have standing to sue if they properly allege that the challenged action or law causes them "concrete and particularized injury in fact." The Supreme Court has generally interpreted that rule to deny standing based merely on some category that the plaintiff falls into, such as "citizen standing" or "taxpayer standing." Instead, the court has usually required plaintiffs to allege that that they have suffered some kind of judicially cognizable real-world harm that sets them apart from the broad run of society.
Adopting the principal argument advanced by Bost, the majority stated, "Candidates have a concrete and particularized interest in the rules that govern the counting of votes in their elections, regardless whether those rules harm their electoral prospects or increase the cost of their campaigns." That candidate interest in protecting the integrity and fairness of the electoral process "is in no sense 'common to all members of the public,'" Roberts asserted. Although the public also has an interest in the integrity of elections, the candidate's interest "differs in kind." An unfair election "plainly affects those who compete for the support of the people in a different way than it affects the people who lend their support," Roberts stated.

...
The majority may have been influenced by remedial concerns similar to those voiced by Justice Brett Kavanaugh during oral argument. There, Kavanaugh had remarked that an undesirable effect of denying candidates standing to challenge vote-counting rules before Election Day would put courts on the spot afterward, when someone already appeared to have won and others to have lost.
In his opinion for the court, Roberts criticized the dissent's argument that candidates should not be deemed to have standing unless they properly alleged that the challenged rule likely made the difference between winning and losing. The problem, he said, is that a court probably can't tell whether a rule affected the ultimate result until after the votes are counted pursuant to that rule. Roberts quoted from an opinion written by the late Justice Antonin Scalia while concurring in the grant of a stay during Bush v. Gore in 2000: "Count first, and rule upon legality afterwards, is not a recipe for producing election results that have the public acceptance democratic stability requires."

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1 yay

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 05, 2026 03:57 PM (CWTWj)

2 THE BLADE BLADES FIRST

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 03:57 PM (iFTx/)

3 and color me surprised. cleanest election ever

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 05, 2026 03:57 PM (CWTWj)

4 Very Wisconsin of them.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at February 05, 2026 03:58 PM (okun6)

5 "Cleta?" Is that the feminine form of "Cletus?"

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 03:58 PM (77rzZ)

6 "The mask is being ripped off as I write. A Gestalt shift in The Narrative is underway."

I wish I could write like that.

'The dominoes are falling. Justice is certain now.'

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 03:59 PM (N8ZBc)

7 Wasn't just Trump that got screwed. Lost a Senate seat there (and it also seemed inevitable, even in a runoff).

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 05, 2026 03:59 PM (KbCG3)

8 Boy, do I hate being right all the time.

Posted by: Ian Malcom at February 05, 2026 04:00 PM (KadT+)

9 'The dominoes are falling. Justice is certain now.'

I thought dominoes "close in."

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:00 PM (77rzZ)

10 "standing" is 99% bullshit, its usually just a device judges use to avoid hearing a case they won't like the outcome of or information raised in the hearing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 05, 2026 04:00 PM (PYyV9)

11 Long as all this mess don't mean ah cain't book me a cabin for me and Fat Fani, I don't give a rip.

Posted by: Nathan Wade Esq. on VRBO at February 05, 2026 04:00 PM (oftw2)

12 Cool.

Trump gets a bonus term, and all Democrat officials go in a camp.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM (BI5O2)

13 I'm going to work REALLY hard not to be black-pilled on this, but it's pretty clear the Republicans in Georgia already knew this but worked to screw Trump over anyway.

What's the chances that someone will be held accountable now?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM (zjgNU)

14 'I thought dominoes "close in."'

I know. I just can't write that good. So lame.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM (N8ZBc)

15 "Cleta?" Is that the feminine form of "Cletus?"

"was that the name of that girl I dated?"
--Seinfeld

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM (PYyV9)

16 Oh, well. --- John Roberts

Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (ZmOAG)

17 and so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (jc0TO)

18 This happened not only in GA, but in every fucking state across the country, and with much bigger margins.

I'm convinced that at least 5 million -- yes, million -- votes in every single federal election are totally fraudulent, and of that number 90% go to the Democunt.

Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

19 "This was absurd then and it's absurd now. (And it was also very dishonest for the partisan Democrat media to bleat that judges had examined all of these allegations and found them meritless. No -- it dismissed the lawsuits without ever examining the allegations.)"

Well, the MSM has one job and that is to get DEMOCRATS elected.
And judges help in that task.

Posted by: redridinghood at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (NpAcC)

20 Cool.

Trump gets a bonus term, and all Democrat officials go in a camp.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM

Diktator for life.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (jc0TO)

21 In Washington state most absentee ballots are from the military. The dems just make sure the ballots aren't mailed out until it's absolutely impossible for them to get returned before the deadline.
Oops!
Sorry about that.
And thank you for your service.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 05, 2026 04:03 PM (2WIwB)

22
Some people may have done some things.
In the enthusiasm of the moment, mistakes may have been made.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.

Posted by: (D)emocrats & the MSM at February 05, 2026 04:03 PM (0sNs1)

23 Eighty-one million votes my ass!

Posted by: Skeptical In NC at February 05, 2026 04:03 PM (oftw2)

24 That seems sus.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:03 PM (ExV1e)

25 And judges help in that task.

"And now we get to say Trump lost every case challenging electoral fraud even though he didn't even GET a court case!"
--Democrats

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 05, 2026 04:03 PM (PYyV9)

26 I have VERY little faith that the quisling cowards on the Supreme Court will make a ruling when it matters.

People show you who they are in a crisis. Our Supreme Court showed it doesn't deserve the slightest respect.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:04 PM (zjgNU)

27 Republicans presidential candidates would win the popular election every cycle if you just take out the 4M+ fraudulent votes from California alone.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:04 PM (jc0TO)

28 Move along plebes, nothing to see here.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at February 05, 2026 04:04 PM (VkY89)

29 Fulton County officials need to be put on public display and be used as pitching practice.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 05, 2026 04:05 PM (9xzST)

30 and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM

Did you, perhaps, mean the other end of the color spectrum?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (0sNs1)

31 No standing.

- Hawaiian judge

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (x33Pf)

32 presidetnt barron trump will have mercy and pardon all who served enough years behind bars. like maybe aoc

Posted by: gnats local 678 at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (CWTWj)

33 Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

Clamp down on vote fraud. Clamp down on immigration fraud. Clamp down on welfare fraud. And tax fraud. And campaign finance fraud. And, and, and... the US government is completely vacated.

It's all just fuckin' fraud from top to bottom.

If you want to crack down on corruption, you're asking for regime change.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (BI5O2)

34 Our Supreme Court showed it doesn't deserve the slightest respect.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Bukele fixed his country by sweeping out the Soros judges.

Posted by: gKWVE at February 05, 2026 04:07 PM (gKWVE)

35 "Three weeks ago, the Supreme Court injected some sanity back into election contests, determining that, yes, the actual candidates in elections do have legal standing to challenge election rules."

Another commenter put me that f'n knowledge this week. Awesome! Let it be so.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:07 PM (N8ZBc)

36 What's the chances that someone will be held accountable now?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM (zjgNU)

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

- Tax cutting, war starting John F. Kennedy (D)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2026 04:07 PM (oSeBJ)

37 >The problem, he said, is that a court probably can't tell whether a rule affected the ultimate result until after the votes are counted pursuant to that rule.
----

'we have to wait for the crime to be committed before we can decide if it was a crime or not'

Posted by: Don Black at February 05, 2026 04:07 PM (ZxPkt)

38 This happened not only in GA, but in every fucking state across the country, and with much bigger margins.

I'm convinced that at least 5 million -- yes, million -- votes in every single federal election are totally fraudulent, and of that number 90% go to the Democunt.

Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

This is honestly what amazed me about 2020.

The left committed MASSIVE, obvious voter fraud leading up to election day. AND IT WASN'T ENOUGH

They had to make it EVEN MORE OBVIOUS by kicking out election observers and double and triple counting votes...

And their partisans just brush it off and say WELL, THERE'S NO PROOF THEY CHEATED!

Right. When you get rid of the umpires, there's no proof that the 7 touchdowns you scored in the last 30 seconds were from cheating, but it's also pretty obvious it wasn't legitimate.

Which is why they put the J6 protestors through hell. YOU WILL ACCEPT THIS ELECTION, no matter what. It was a display of power.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:08 PM (zjgNU)

39 People show you who they are in a crisis. Our Supreme Court showed it doesn't deserve the slightest respect.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:04 PM (zjgNU)

I don't mind the Supreme Court, but sometimes I wish they would change it up once in a while and we could get a Pepperoni Court

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:08 PM (rbvCR)

40 Gee, I wish we had one those vote fraud machines, Stainsy.

Posted by: Hillary "Buck" Clinton at February 05, 2026 04:08 PM (56/oC)

41 It's good that this is happening, but those that say nothing will happen will be right if nothing happens.
By that I mean actual accountability, the kind that comes with convictions in court and jail time for those who facilitated this, even if it just the janitor who saw something and said nothing.
This cannot be allowed to stand as the historical record so seeing the light of day is a good thing but it is not enough.

And this is coming from a guy who now thinks in retrospect having the election stolen was good for Trump in particular and the nation in general (Much of this thought process is trusting that God has a plan).
Having said that, heads must metaphorically roll for this so it won't happen again.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (Hx0tZ)

42 Polls are showing that roughly 80% of all voters favor voter ID. That's an extraordinary number. It's tough to get 80% of Americans to agree that puppies are cute. The only group solidly opposed to voter ID is Democrat politicians but not their voters.

If the Save Act doesn't pass Americans of all political persuasions won't truly believe the results. That's an untenable position, particularly for the scumbags who keep claiming to be trying to save our precious democracy.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (viF8m)

43 Never believed that Biden got 81m actual votes in 2020.
Hell, even JugEars McFuckstick only got 69.5m in 2008, and 66m in 2012.
Was Biden really that much more popular than Black Jesus?

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (MNCvZ)

44 The problem is the courts don't straighten these things out till much later. And much later may be five years after we're under autocratic communist rule

Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (enwbs)

45 I'm wondering how the history books are going to record that an election was demonstrably stolen, and that a political party staged a fake insurrection in order to abandon the constitutional rules for certifying the electoral college, and used emergency powers to circumvent the constitution.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (0U5gm)

46 Heh. @ YD - I would love to see Trump claim a bonus term just for the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (n5tGW)

47 He tried to tell you. Only the Democrats absorbed the lesson.

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

-- Joseph Stalin

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (0sNs1)

48 38 This happened not only in GA, but in every fucking state across the country, and with much bigger margins.

I'm convinced that at least 5 million -- yes, million -- votes in every single federal election are totally fraudulent, and of that number 90% go to the Democunt.

Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

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This is why Harmeet Dhillon's rash of lawsuits for voter rolls is so important.

OR admits to 800,000 too many registrations. It's like 20% of their entire voter roll being invalid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

49 I'm retired now and a little out of practice, but I seem to detect a problemo in the numberos.

Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (8fzl3)

50 45 I'm wondering how the history books are going to record that an election was demonstrably stolen, and that a political party staged a fake insurrection in order to abandon the constitutional rules for certifying the electoral college, and used emergency powers to circumvent the constitution.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (0U5gm)

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Well, what do history books say about 1960 regarding the first part?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (GBKbO)

51 I'm wondering how the history books are going to record that an election was demonstrably stolen, and that a political party staged a fake insurrection in order to abandon the constitutional rules for certifying the electoral college, and used emergency powers to circumvent the constitution.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM

History will be written in Mandarin.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (jc0TO)

52 Wasn't just Trump that got screwed. Lost a Senate seat there (and it also seemed inevitable, even in a runoff).
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 05, 2026 03:59 PM (KbCG3)

We, the citizens, endured four years of the "Biden Presidency" because of this. Regardless of what you think of Trump, WE got screwed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (ExV1e)

53 I'm wondering how the history books are going to record that an election was demonstrably stolen, and that a political party staged a fake insurrection in order to abandon the constitutional rules for certifying the electoral college, and used emergency powers to circumvent the constitution.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM (0U5gm)

Well, the history is written by the Victor, after all.

So, what does VDH think?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (rbvCR)

54 25,000 more votes than voters
---------

I was told there would be no math.

Posted by: Georgia at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (AveBv)

55
It worked, didn't it?

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (b0pva)

56 Was Biden really that much more popular than Black Jesus?
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM

Obviously, yes.

Posted by: DNC & the MSM at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (0sNs1)

57 Nobody will be arrested. Patel is racing to AZ to help look for Guthrie's mother. I'm sure if I was abducted, the head of the FBI would race here to find me. Amiright?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (abIsI)

58 Everyone knows the truly honest party is the one that is doing everything in their power to prevent anyone from examining the details.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (Dv3i1)

59 Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

Clamp down on vote fraud. Clamp down on immigration fraud. Clamp down on welfare fraud. And tax fraud. And campaign finance fraud. And, and, and... the US government is completely vacated.

It's all just fuckin' fraud from top to bottom.

If you want to crack down on corruption, you're asking for regime change.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (BI5O2)
______

True, but most of those kinds of fraud are all interrelated. Vote fraud, immigration fraud, and welfare fraud are all melted and intertwined together like slimy alien tentacle porn.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (iFTx/)

60 You know, if this pans out, we're going to need hearings!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (8fzl3)

61 "It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

-- Joseph Stalin
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (0sNs1)

Stalin never said that. Angela Merkel said that.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (rbvCR)

62 Speaking of the two corrupt lovebirds, have Fanny and Darius been charged with anything? Had to pay any fines?, provide restitution?, anything?. I know they haven't gone to jail?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (8Xy/A)

63 If you want to crack down on corruption, you're asking for regime change.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (BI5O2)

Your terms are acceptable.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (Hx0tZ)

64 > 7 Wasn't just Trump that got screwed. Lost a Senate seat there (and it also seemed inevitable, even in a runoff).
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 05, 2026 03:59 PM (KbCG3)

It would be awesome to see "Senator Reverend" Raphael "Bitch Best Have My Money" Warlock being perp walked.

Won't happen, but it would be awesome.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (IG3/x)

65 Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

I'm guessing that you're color blind.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (ExV1e)

66 I was told, repeatedly, that nothing will happen.

Posted by: runner at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (g47mK)

67 Remember Vivek said it was all on the up and up. Then he magically became a conservative who is "learning". God so many assholes.

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (AveBv)

68 Clearly the people have lost the confidence of the government.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (jc0TO)

69 Note the timing.

I think this was planned as a big reveal to push the country to pressure the House and Senate to pass the SAVE act.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (bwRbr)

70 True, but most of those kinds of fraud are all interrelated. Vote fraud, immigration fraud, and welfare fraud are all melted and intertwined together like slimy alien tentacle porn.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (iFTx/)

Dude. Don't summon Eichenwald.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (zjgNU)

71 Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:08 PM (zjgNU)

They released a bio weapon, locked everyone in their houses and burned a bunch of cities to get Trump.

Most people didn't like the election theft, but after that it was pretty ho-hum stuff.

The rest loved the election theft.

What nobody did was believe it didn't happen. That was a comfortable institutional lie people dutifully parroted because it suited them politically, or because it was a fait accompli and they wanted to move on.

They lie to us, we know they lie to us, they know we know it, and it all runs like a clock.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (BI5O2)

72 Well, what do history books say about 1960 regarding the first part?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

The modern books say the same thing that they say about the 1876 election. Oh, well. Too bad, so sad.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (0U5gm)

73 I remember when people were saying that Trump's obsession with 2020 was going to doom him. That hiring Michael Whatley to lead the RNC was just dooming him because he wasn't talking about what people wanted to hear which was addressing inflation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

74 Serious hearings! Really very serious hearings!

Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (8fzl3)

75 Thats what mail voting gets you.
Mail votes to people who moved, died, Illegals or just made up all get a ballot

Posted by: Skip at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (Ia/+0)

76
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, joined in dissent by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, would have affirmed the lower courts' denial of standing.

___________

So, the two dummies. Put their IQs side by side and it would be two digits.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (tgvbd)

77 “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” - Bill Barr Dec 1, 2020

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (abIsI)

78 Covid and the fakelection. Why did they need Trump out so bad.

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (AveBv)

79 I'm retired now and a little out of practice, but I seem to detect a problemo in the numberos.
Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM

Números, not numberos, and problema is, correctly, feminine.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (0sNs1)

80
No standing.
- Hawaiian judge

Fuck. Off.

Posted by: BifBewalski- at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (QVmho)

81 A candidate who contests a recount or other investigation should be charged as an accessory, if fraud is in fact proven.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (IG3/x)

82 History will be written in Mandarin.
Posted by: toby928(c)

No, not enough non-Chinese are capable of learning Mandarin.

It will be written in bad Pidgin "Engrish."

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (77rzZ)

83 No, not enough non-Chinese are capable of learning Mandarin.

It will be written in bad Pidgin "Engrish."
Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM

He say you brade runner.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:15 PM (jc0TO)

84 "Patel is racing to AZ to help look for Guthrie's mother."

Maybe he'll nab one of those Government Gangsters he wrote about in his book. They're surprisingly hard to find now.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:15 PM (N8ZBc)

85 Well, what exactly is "happening"? I just hear the clock ticking down to zero.

Posted by: UberSkeptic at February 05, 2026 04:15 PM (9CBNQ)

86 Serious hearings! Really very serious hearings!
Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM

No entries in Permanent Records, though, right?

Right?

Posted by: (D)emocrat Election Officials at February 05, 2026 04:15 PM (0sNs1)

87 I remember when people were saying that Trump's obsession with 2020 was going to doom him. That hiring Michael Whatley to lead the RNC was just dooming him because he wasn't talking about what people wanted to hear which was addressing inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

Someone pointed out to me recently that Trump not only builds hotels and golf courses, he also builds and operates very successful casinos. Casinos are only successful if they run the line between winning and losing, and keep the money from being stolen.
Something tells me he has a lot of the ball to manage that.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:16 PM (rbvCR)

88 We, the citizens, endured four years of the "Biden Presidency" because of this. Regardless of what you think of Trump, WE got screwed.
___

We did ok.

- 20 million illegal aliens eating rice with their hands on your couch

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 05, 2026 04:16 PM (Dv3i1)

89 J. D. Vance made a comment in an interview about how we have to "replace the entire ruling class" of the country.

This all seems coordinated, like the admin understands what they have to do (SAVE act) and knows it is a difficult job because the commies (D and R) own the institutions. So forget hearings or all that shit. Let's be happy if we can ever get an honest vote in the country again.

I think the rational people would win, Ds would be gone, Rino's would be gone, corrupt judges would be gone, etc. If only we had an honest vote.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:16 PM (bwRbr)

90 84 "Patel is racing to AZ to help look for Guthrie's mother."

Maybe he'll nab one of those Government Gangsters he wrote about in his book.

Everyone's got a book - Heckle Fish

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (abIsI)

91 > He say you brade runner.
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:15 PM (jc0TO)

He also say "All you can eat buffet not mean all day buffet. You come. You eat. You go home."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (IG3/x)

92 No entries in Permanent Records, though, right?

Right?
Posted by: (D)emocrat Election Officials at February 05, 2026 04:15 PM (0sNs1)
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That might inhibit reaching across the aisleO.

Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (8fzl3)

93 Patel is racing to AZ to help look for Guthrie's mother.

--

Please tell me you're joking.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (qBdHI)

94 >>It worked, didn't it?

Only for people who believe history ended in 2020.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (viF8m)

95 Well, what exactly is "happening"? I just hear the clock ticking down to zero.
Posted by: UberSkeptic

The Doomsday Clock is only five seconds from midnight!!! REEEEEEEE!!!

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (77rzZ)

96 87 I remember when people were saying that Trump's obsession with 2020 was going to doom him. That hiring Michael Whatley to lead the RNC was just dooming him because he wasn't talking about what people wanted to hear which was addressing inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

------------
Didn't Ace say this?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:17 PM (bwRbr)

97 "Turn those machines back on!!"

Posted by: Mortimer Duke at February 05, 2026 04:18 PM (vcOmj)

98 It's just a rounding error.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 05, 2026 04:18 PM (wVcYX)

99 Fanny Willis will be teaching law and ethics at Harvard next fall.

Posted by: 13times at February 05, 2026 04:18 PM (GK/uQ)

100 93 Patel is racing to AZ to help look for Guthrie's mother.

--

Please tell me you're joking.
Posted by: Lady in Black

To add insult to injury, Trump directed him to go there immediately.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:19 PM (abIsI)

101 It's just a rounding error.
Posted by: Count de Monet

It's a write-off. They just write it off.

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:19 PM (77rzZ)

102 Banana Republic stuff. The Guatemala Connection.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:19 PM (pDt9x)

103 >Well, what do history books say about 1960 regarding the first part?
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In the movie Nixon, one of Nixon's advisors tells him, late on election night, that the Democrats stole the election 'fair and square'.

Posted by: Don Black at February 05, 2026 04:19 PM (ZxPkt)

104 Was Biden really that much more popular than Black Jesus?
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at February 05, 2026 04:09 PM

Obviously, yes.
Posted by: DNC & the MSM at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (0sNs1)

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We're supposed to believe that there was a tidal wave of anti-Trump sentiment in 2020 that pushed Biden's numbers up despite Trump getting more votes than he did in 2016.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (NYInA)

105 Nobody will be arrested. Patel is racing to AZ to help look for Guthrie's mother. I'm sure if I was abducted, the head of the FBI would race here to find me. Amiright?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:11 PM (abIsI)

Well, fuck. We're doomed. Despite the fact that things are happening everywhere, it's obvious that nothing is happening. Despite the fact that the head of the FBI isn't actually, personally, involved in any investigation he should still be staying up nights in whatever burg holds your current interest.

We'd be living in Elysium today if only (insert name of Healey's preferred AG candidate) had been nominated, and confirmed, rather than THAT BLONDE WOMAN.

I shall now weep bloody tears and rend my garments.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (ExV1e)

106 Posted by: 13times at February 05, 2026 04:18 PM (GK/uQ)

Really?! Or was that a dark joke?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (8Xy/A)

107 What's funny is that Trump could personally rappel out of a helicopter, gun down the kidnappers and snatch the old lady up safe and sound, and Savannah Guthrie would shit all over him the next day.

Why he's wasting my money on some filthy rich Communists who hate me and him alike is beyond my ken, but I don't much appreciate it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (BI5O2)

108 So, we know Georgia was stolen, Wisconsin supreme court admitted the same, Arizona review board said similar, and Pennsylvania refused to obey the supreme court of the US and counted illegal ballots. Sounds pretty decisive to me.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (0U5gm)

109 "Then there is the news about Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Grand jury testimony that was just unsealed revealed that Kemp told the chief of Georgia Bureau of Investigation not to investigation allegations of fraud in the 2020 election, Saying he was a "team player," the official dropped the case."

Yes, but which team was Brian on? I think he may find himself in a world of hurt, and not too long from now.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (vcOmj)

110 Is there a Woody Guthrie connection in this?

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (pDt9x)

111 This will be fascinating to watch if the 2020 election is determined, legally, to have been tge result of fraud. Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at February 05, 2026 04:21 PM (QXOBW)

112 Yep, they had 9 months to plan the election fraud of that election with everybody trapped in their houses. But just elementary math and the physical world made it obvious that the election was rigged.

But think about that, ZERO tabulated tapes from all those counties. It's like they have no standards at all! And everybody in power there on both sides was "yep, looks good to me"

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2026 04:21 PM (n5tGW)

113 Clearly the people have lost the confidence of the government.
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (jc0TO)

We'll simply dissolve them and elect a new people.

Posted by: Big Gov at February 05, 2026 04:21 PM (wVcYX)

114 When do people go to prison? Because this continues - unabated - until people do go to prison.

FFS!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 05, 2026 04:21 PM (i2VYc)

115
We're supposed to believe that there was a tidal wave of anti-Trump sentiment in 2020 that pushed Biden's numbers up despite Trump getting more votes than he did in 2016.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (NYInA)

Pretty sure I read that it was the first time in American history that an incumbent increased their vote and still lost.
Sure we're a young country but...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:21 PM (Hx0tZ)

116 109 "Then there is the news about Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Grand jury testimony that was just unsealed revealed that Kemp told the chief of Georgia Bureau of Investigation not to investigation allegations of fraud in the 2020 election, Saying he was a "team player," the official dropped the case."
_____

I'd rather Trump send Patel to Georgia to investigate the death of Kemp's daughter's boyfriend.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (Dv3i1)

117
Yes, but which team was Brian on? I think he may find himself in a world of hurt, and not too long from now.
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers

Team CCP. They love them some large shipping ports.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (abIsI)

118 Números, not numberos, and problema is, correctly, feminine.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at February 05, 2026 04:14 PM (0sNs1)

Although "problema" ends in an -a suffix, it is a masculine word: "el problema", as it were.

It belongs to the class of Spanish nouns that have Greek roots. Though in Greek it is a neuter noun, this became a masculine noun in Latin and later in Spanish.
Spanish is much simpler in many ways than English, but it does have its oddities.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (rbvCR)

119 If it's true that the cartels are somehow involved in this Guthrie business, Trump may sense an opportunity here.

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (77rzZ)

120 I see this as comparable to what is happening in Europe.

The ruling class in both places became obsessed with the tyrannical Chinese system -- they saw it as better for them, and it seems to kind of work (so far) so they emulated.

Both US and EU embraced censorship. US and probably Europe embraced false elections. These are foundational to the Western System, and they both threw them out the window in pursuit of the holy grail of collectivism. It will be very difficult to get this shit back into the donkey.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (bwRbr)

121

The first and most foundational rule of elections is that you cannot have more votes than voters. This should be a universal law and automatic nullification of the results

Posted by: imp at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (g6TN6)

122 it's true that the cartels are somehow involved in this Guthrie business, Trump may sense an opportunity here.
Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (77rzZ)

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Sure. Offer the cartel Savannah to sweeten the pot.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:23 PM (BI5O2)

123 So, we know Georgia was stolen, Wisconsin supreme court admitted the same, Arizona review board said similar, and Pennsylvania refused to obey the supreme court of the US and counted illegal ballots. Sounds pretty decisive to me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

You election deniers are worse than Nazis!

Posted by: Rachel Maddow, certified carpet muncher at February 05, 2026 04:23 PM (vcOmj)

124 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, joined in dissent by Justice Sonia Sotomayor
......

Burrito Supreme Court

Posted by: wth at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (UjdFS)

125 What's the chances that someone will be held accountable now?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:01 PM (zjgNU)

Zero Point Zero.

Posted by: Dean Vernon Wormer at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (hXJe5)

126 >>> 65 Clamp down on fraud, and the Dems will never win a national election, and their House and Senate seats will be limited to very red states and districts.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at February 05, 2026 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

I'm guessing that you're color blind.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (ExV1e)

I think he is using "red" to indicate the commie districts.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (ULPxl)

127 Speaking of SCOTUS, has their ruling about Trump’s tariffs yet been issued? Haven’t we been waiting for that one… with bated breath?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (fQqaC)

128 Wonder if Trump knows how to maintain the popularity of Republicans and our side or if he's just a big blithering idiot who doesn't know anything about anything

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (AveBv)

129 Well gosh, they sure got the better of us! Perhaps it’s time for a sternly worded letter!

But not too sternly… we don’t wanna be called racists or nazis or anything like that!

Posted by: The GOP at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (S4IL1)

130 “ At this point what does it really matter”? - Thing that esteemed Secretary of State said, in the Utopian Past.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (pDt9x)

131

Still, I'm glad Trump lost in 2020, or we would not have the ongoing pageant of awesomeness (or VP Vance) that has been #47

Posted by: imp at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (g6TN6)

132 Don't forget how they shafted Rudy with this scam.

Posted by: fd at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (vFG9F)

133 Just got back from the range, and boy do I suck. Need to go back to shotguns and killing pheasants.

Because you never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 05, 2026 04:25 PM (wBaIH)

134 Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 05, 2026 04:25 PM (wBaIH)
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Fundamentals.

Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:25 PM (8fzl3)

135
131

Still, I'm glad Trump lost in 2020, or we would not have the ongoing pageant of awesomeness (or VP Vance) that has been #47
Posted by: imp at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (g6TN6)

Being nearly murdered, twice, wonderfully focuses the mind.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (pDt9x)

136 You election deniers are worse than Nazis!
Posted by: Rachel Maddow, certified carpet muncher
.......

Hey Ralph, or whatever your real name is, I love your TV commercial where you yap about the constitution, it's very funny!

Posted by: wth at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (UjdFS)

137 127 Speaking of SCOTUS, has their ruling about Trump’s tariffs yet been issued? Haven’t we been waiting for that one… with bated breath?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (fQqaC)

========

Other than emergency things, the earliest we can reasonably expect opinions from the fall term is May.

The tariff case? Really complicated with a bunch of stuff going through the arguments which probably indicates a very difficult consensus to reach with really narrow bounds that will be difficult to write (and rewrite as drafts get sent back and forth).

It'll probably be one of the last opinions issued in June.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

138 Still, I'm glad Trump lost in 2020, or we would not have the ongoing pageant of awesomeness (or VP Vance) that has been #47
Posted by: imp at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM

Yeah, Pence would have been the heir apparent in 2024.

We dodged a bullet for sure.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (jc0TO)

139 74 Serious hearings! Really very serious hearings!
Posted by: Weasel

And strongly worded letters!

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (W2Pud)

140 I'd rather Trump send Patel to Georgia to investigate the death of Kemp's daughter's boyfriend.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

The devil went down to Georgia
He was lookin' for some votes to steal

Posted by: CDB, Charlie Daniels Band, redux at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (vcOmj)

141 Great interview of Harmeet Dhillon by Catherine Herridge. Much more information on the outrageous acts by the church thugs in Minneapolis, the shootings, and the Fulton County vote. Love Harmeet!

https://tinyurl.com/44jzum5

Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (BydOW)

142 Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 05, 2026 04:25 PM (wBaIH)
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Fundamentals.
Posted by: Weasel at February 05, 2026 04:25 PM (8fzl3)

Butt, belly, beak, BAM!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (Hx0tZ)

143 271 days until the midterms. Tick tock.

Posted by: UberSkeptic at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (9CBNQ)

144 "What's the chances that someone will be held accountable now?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian"

For the most part, no.

Posted by: Guy who always says "Nothing will happen" and is usually right at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (vFG9F)

145 137 — Thanks TJM

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (ZCxQ+)

146
I'll just sit here holding my breath waiting for Mike Pence to admit he was wrong.

Posted by: Auspex at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (Y8DZL)

147

Let the gun do the work, zhukov. Also, having competed in practical shooting now for four years, you would be amazed at what proper equipment can do for you.

Posted by: imp at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (g6TN6)

148 Serious hearings! Really very serious hearings!
Posted by: Weasel

And strongly worded letters!
Posted by: nurse ratched

And severely rolled-up sleeves! To the point where circulation is cut off in our upper arms!

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (77rzZ)

149 I shall now weep bloody tears and rend my garments.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (ExV1e)

A) Patel is a manger and a PR guy for the agency, as well as the guy who directs the hatchet guys. Most of the real work is done by real agents - many of whom wish for the autonomy they had under Bob Mueller.
B) I am waiting to see if Gabbard shows up in AZ since there is documented election fraud and human trafficking in AZ as well

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (rbvCR)

150 Go back and watch Githrie's treatment of Trump in that Town Hall way back when.

This is mystifying to me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (BI5O2)

151 I shall now weep bloody tears and rend my garments.Pictures or it didnt happen

Posted by: doug at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (Hy+R4)

152 Great interview of Harmeet Dhillon by Catherine Herridge. Much more information on the outrageous acts by the church thugs in Minneapolis, the shootings, and the Fulton County vote. Love Harmeet!

https://tinyurl.com/44jzum5
Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (BydOW)

Am I the only moron who thinks Catherine Herridge is kinda hot? Cause I do…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ZCxQ+)

153 An Amish family of four was just killed by an illegal driving a semi truck. Does this elevate this illegal to criminal illegal alien status? I'm sure the Amish community would like to know.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (abIsI)

154 This will be fascinating to watch if the 2020 election is determined, legally, to have been tge result of fraud. Should be fun to watch.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at February 05, 2026 04:21 PM (QXOBW)

I suspect that, in the end, the judges will say that it wasn't proven. You could have confessions, video evidence, money transfers, the whole nine yards and they'll rule that it wasn't proven.

They almost have to do that because saying that it's proven leads to the question, "How do we make amends?"

The people who were forced to get the clot shot... how are their bodies cleansed? The people who killed themselves... how are they restored? The money spent on fraud... how are we indemnified for that?

Saying, officially saying, that 2020 was stolen, that everyone knew, and they let it happen, destroys the country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ExV1e)

155 Let's see: manufactured or not, it's the biggest story in the country right now. You know what? Let Democrats in media control the narrative and give themselves an easy win. Let their 2028 candidate fly in and become a hero and make Trump and Republicans look feckless adn heartless. Or you know let the guy who understand PR and won three elections against the odds do his fucking thing.

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (AveBv)

156 think he is using "red" to indicate the commie districts.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (ULPxl)

As it should be. When color TVs were becoming a thing and they starting doing the blue/red maps Dems were red. Someone said that's a little too on the nose and switched them.

Posted by: BruceWayne at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (MGB5H)

157 We all knew it was bullshit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (zZu0s)

158 >>>Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, joined in dissent by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, would have affirmed the lower courts' denial of standing.
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ah, the elite reach

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (a0V+E)

159 Am I the only moron who thinks Catherine Herridge is kinda hot? Cause I do…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Hair's way too short.

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (77rzZ)

160 108 So, we know Georgia was stolen, Wisconsin supreme court admitted the same, Arizona review board said similar, and Pennsylvania refused to obey the supreme court of the US and counted illegal ballots. Sounds pretty decisive to me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

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At the time, I counted 8 states with blatant fraud. I think they only won 7 or maybe 6 of them though. Also FLA, which had little fraud but they handed that one to little bloomberg the commie fag to spend his Chinese billions to try to flip - he failed miserably.

So their plan was that they had FLA in the bag, and needed only a few of the 8 to win. When the lost FLA, they panicked and all their clumsy treachery became obvious because suddenly they needed a lot more than anticipated.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (bwRbr)

161 I'll just sit here holding my breath waiting for Mike Pence to admit he was wrong.
Posted by: Auspex at February 05, 2026 04:27 PM (Y8DZL)

Pence is too busy being a super Christian with David French

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (ZCxQ+)

162 I think Trump is playing the "look what I do for you" game with the media on this Guthrie thing. So next time they criticize him, he'll say look what I did and you treat me like this.

And if illegal aliens or cartels end up being the perps its that much better.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (n5tGW)

163 As it should be. When color TVs were becoming a thing and they starting doing the blue/red maps Dems were red. Someone said that's a little too on the nose and switched them.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Wasn't it Tim Russert who did that?

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

164 1. Prove the 2020 election was stolen
2. purge all Biden appointees everywhere, remove any seniority they may have acquired, remove record of their federal employment for pension purposes
3. Put Biden on trial for the rest of his life
4. Fine the Bidens into bankruptcy

Posted by: DanMan at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (8uzBS)

165 To be fair, once the election official had used up all of his fingers and toes, the rest couldn't be accurately accounted for.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (I40wl)

166
Both US and EU embraced censorship. US and probably Europe embraced false elections. These are foundational to the Western System, and they both threw them out the window in pursuit of the holy grail of collectivism. It will be very difficult to get this shit back into the donkey.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)

They had best figure out how, or the normies will eventually feed it to an industrial shredder while shoveling the shit in with it to mix it all back together.

Posted by: BifBewalski- at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (QVmho)

167 Saying, officially saying, that 2020 was stolen, that everyone knew, and they let it happen, destroys the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ExV1e)

If it gets destroyed by the truth, it deserves to get destroyed by the truth.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (Hx0tZ)

168 The Deep State and Marxists should be kicking themselves for not letting DJT win in 2020 and just keep steamrolling over his administration. He would be gone and they could be ruling the country now.

Posted by: Skip at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (Ia/+0)

169 154 Good points.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (N8ZBc)

170 Am I the only moron who thinks Catherine Herridge is kinda hot? Cause I do…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Her and Lara Logan. Both GILFs

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (abIsI)

171 >>> 75 Thats what mail voting gets you.
Mail votes to people who moved, died, Illegals or just made up all get a ballot
Posted by: Skip at February 05, 2026 04:13 PM (Ia/+0)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Colorado, Washington, Oregon, California... at February 05, 2026 04:31 PM (ULPxl)

172 4. Fine the Bidens into bankruptcy
Posted by: DanMan at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (8uzBS)

From what I've heard, they are doing a fine job of spending themselves into penury. The money tap was turned off, but they just can't help themselves.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2026 04:31 PM (I40wl)

173

Pence is too busy being a super Christian with David French
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Is that how the kids are spelling cocksucking commie nowadays?

Posted by: BifBewalski- at February 05, 2026 04:31 PM (QVmho)

174 >>> Or you know let the guy who understand PR and won three elections against the odds do his fucking thing.
Posted by: ...
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Don't be going on putting think into this thing.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 05, 2026 04:31 PM (a0V+E)

175 Dems: that was like 6 years ago man
Also Dems: kill everyone involved in 1/6

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (Hhsnh)

176 "Saying, officially saying, that 2020 was stolen, that everyone knew, and they let it happen, destroys the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ExV1e)

If it gets destroyed by the truth, it deserves to get destroyed by the truth.
Posted by: OneEyedJack"

The truth doesn't matter if these people face no consequences.

Posted by: fd at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (vFG9F)

177 Fixing, rectifying the 2020 election is not possible of course. That’s not the point of it all. The point is treating the Democrats like bad dogs and rubbing their noses in the shit they left lying around. With 300 million plus witnesses.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (pDt9x)

178 At the very least, all of this fraud should be used to formally nullify everything - and I mean EVERYTHING - that Biden did in his 4 years of being a fraudulent poseur. And hunt down those who were acting in his behalf. Prison for the rest of their worthless, communist piece of shit lives.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (i2VYc)

179 Fiat justitia ruat caelum

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (jc0TO)

180 I still like the conspiracy theory that a deal was made where Raffensperger and Kemp "won" for the Rs and Warnock and Biden "won" for the Ds.

Stacey Abrams hardest hit.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (2ocoG)

181 177 Fixing, rectifying the 2020 election is not possible of course. That’s not the point of it all. The point is treating the Democrats like bad dogs and rubbing their noses in the shit they left lying around. With 300 million plus witnesses.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (pDt9x)

======

It's preventing it from happening again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

182
Still, I'm glad Trump lost in 2020, or we would not have the ongoing pageant of awesomeness (or VP Vance) that has been #47
Posted by: imp at February 05, 2026 04:24 PM (g6TN6)

Being nearly murdered, twice, wonderfully focuses the mind.
Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (pDt9x)

------

The Democrats never imagined that this could happen. It was going to be four more years of people behind Biden running the country.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (dp8jd)

183 >>>I'd rather Trump send Patel to Georgia to investigate the death of Kemp's daughter's boyfriend.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
******
IMO, I think PDJT doesn't trust the fibees with this and sent Tulsi to oversee the operation. I believe it was recently revealed an agent sent a letter to Fulton Co officials that appeared to tip them off about the impending raid.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM (snuof)

184 133 Just got back from the range, and boy do I suck. Need to go back to shotguns and killing pheasants….

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

I read that as “peasants.” Which I thought was a bit harsh

Posted by: Kratwurst at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM (C362Q)

185 Wasn't it Tim Russert who did that?
Posted by: Bulg at February 05

I can never remember who was the one that did it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM (MGB5H)

186 This is honestly what amazed me about 2020.

The left committed MASSIVE, obvious voter fraud leading up to election day. AND IT WASN'T ENOUGH

They had to make it EVEN MORE OBVIOUS by kicking out election observers and double and triple counting votes...

And their partisans just brush it off and say WELL, THERE'S NO PROOF THEY CHEATED!

Right. When you get rid of the umpires, there's no proof that the 7 touchdowns you scored in the last 30 seconds were from cheating, but it's also pretty obvious it wasn't legitimate.

Which is why they put the J6 protestors through hell. YOU WILL ACCEPT THIS ELECTION, no matter what. It was a display of power.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at February 05, 2026 04:08 PM (zjgNU)

Your description isn't why USA is done as a country. The part where I'm told by half the citizens, all of the media, and a large portion of my relatives that I'm a facist for even questioning that everything was on the up-and-up is why USA is kaput.

Posted by: Croaker at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM (+BcZI)

187 The Bost opinion specifically brought up the PA tactic of pinky swear of segregating challenged ballots.

Also, keep in mind, the election law challenged by Bost, which the trial court said he didn't have standing for, was the counting of ballots after Election Day.

Which suggests SCOTUS agrees, not just that he has standing, but that the law can be challenged.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM (aUIT1)

188 Still, I'm glad Trump lost in 2020, or we would not have the ongoing pageant of awesomeness (or VP Vance) that has been #47

--

Imagine another 4 years of Pence instead of Vance. That alone is almost worth "losing" 2020.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM (qBdHI)

189 Fine the Bidens into bankruptcy

By all accounts they're already there. They're basically white trash lottery winners with no political future.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (2ocoG)

190 Did they need Putin to invade Uke? Why did they need Trump out?

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (AveBv)

191 181 177 Fixing, rectifying the 2020 election is not possible of course. That’s not the point of it all. The point is treating the Democrats like bad dogs and rubbing their noses in the shit they left lying around. With 300 million plus witnesses.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (pDt9x)

======

It's preventing it from happening again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

Same same, if done rightly.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (pDt9x)

192 Just got back from the range, and boy do I suck. Need to go back to shotguns and killing pheasants….

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

I read that as “peasants.” Which I thought was a bit harsh
Posted by: Kratwurst at February 05, 2026 04:33 PM

Pull!

Posted by: Louis XIV at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (jc0TO)

193 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (jc0

Your terms are acceptable.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (Hx0tZ)

194 Nullify every judicial appointment made during Biden's "term".

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (i2VYc)

195 If it gets destroyed by the truth, it deserves to get destroyed by the truth.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (Hx0tZ)

Yes, but the ministers and their aides are unlikely to hold that view.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (ExV1e)

196 it's pretty clear the Republicans in Georgia already knew this but worked to screw Trump over anyway.

It isn’t black pilling to recognize that many Republicans are in the bag for the beltway more than their constituents. It’s just a question of what to do about it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (EXyHK)

197 Nobody beats the Bee at wielding a rhetorical shiv ( except, of course, for Ace )

https://tinyurl.com/5y3ucdfw

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (PBE58)

198 >>Or you know let the guy who understand PR and won three elections against the odds do his fucking thing.

It's not even PR. When Charlie was murdered Patel and team immediately went to Utah. As influential as he was Charlie was still an ordinary citizen and not an elected official.

I don't understand why some sit around constantly bemoaning what garbage people leftists are and then want us to act the same way they do. I don't care about the politics, an elderly woman with a bad heart was abducted in the middle of the night and a ransom note, which may or may not be real, was given with a short deadline to save her life. I'm all in favor of saving her life if it can be done because it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (viF8m)

199 >>> 116 109 "Then there is the news about Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Grand jury testimony that was just unsealed revealed that Kemp told the chief of Georgia Bureau of Investigation not to investigation allegations of fraud in the 2020 election, Saying he was a "team player," the official dropped the case."
_____

I'd rather Trump send Patel to Georgia to investigate the death of Kemp's daughter's boyfriend.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 05, 2026 04:22 PM (Dv3i1)

The guy whose car exploded not long after the 2020 'election', sending the car engine flying six blocks? That guy?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (ULPxl)

200 111 This will be fascinating to watch if the 2020 election is determined, legally, to have been tge result of fraud. Should be fun to watch.
Posted by: ErikInTexas

Suppose Trump is found to be legally the president 2016-24 so is now on term 2.5.
If Trump is still President after the midterms, he is a dictator.

Posted by: gKWVE at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (gKWVE)

201 As it should be. When color TVs were becoming a thing and they starting doing the blue/red maps Dems were red. Someone said that's a little too on the nose and switched them.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Wasn't it Tim Russert who did that?
Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

They didn't always use the same color for the party colors on the TV maps. The color got locked down in the Bush vs Gore era?

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (8avO+)

202 Note the 25,000 gap consists of three things:

1. Ballots stuffed into the system

2. Ballots already in the system double counted

3. Electronic modifications to the totals

It's completely plausible that an urban political machine could accomplish all 3. In fact, if some subtractions from Trump's vote totals were included in #3, there might be a #4 (or a #3A and a #3B).

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (eStot)

203 Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:29 PM (AveBv)

Dead or alive, nobody remembers Savannah Guthrie's mom by March 1st, or whatever Dems who visit her whelp. Not one of her AWFL fans will change their AWFL minds and go put out the eternal flame on their Trump effigies.

It's a cucked out, tucked under media ploy and it's lame.

Not everything the guy does is brilliant. Sometimes, he just loves celebrities.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (BI5O2)

204 From what I've heard, they are doing a fine job of spending themselves into penury. The money tap was turned off, but they just can't help themselves.
Posted by: tcn in AK
......

Maybe Joe has a big life insurance policy and Jill could enlist the help of her ex-husband.

Posted by: wth at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (UjdFS)

205 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (jc0TO)

Veritas.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (zZu0s)

206 @163 yup Russert did it because Red made the Dems look more obviously communist. So they're blue

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (Hhsnh)

207 heads must metaphorically roll for this so it won't happen again.

Why “metaphorically”?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (dhHpw)

208 "The [red for R] color got locked down in the Bush vs Gore era?"

Yes IIRC.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (N8ZBc)

209 Did they need Putin to invade Uke? Why did they need Trump out?

Because for Marxists power is the only thing. It's why you can't effectively accuse them of hypocrisy: everything they do and say is for power, not for any other reason or principle.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (2ocoG)

210 >>> 139 74 Serious hearings! Really very serious hearings!
Posted by: Weasel

And strongly worded letters!
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 05, 2026 04:26 PM (W2Pud)

Have sleeves been rolled up???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (ULPxl)

211
The point is treating the Democrats like ~~bad~~
rabid dogs and rubbing their noses putting them down

Fixèd. And it won't be like Ol' Yeller either..

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (tgvbd)

212 203 Concur.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (N8ZBc)

213 I look at 2020 Biden "win" like I look at East German Women's Aquatic champions who won Gold, Silver and Bronze! Yes, they got the podium and the medals. Because of the time and place. It all went away.

Posted by: runner at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (g47mK)

214 The 48 hour kidnapping guideline, does it apply to 84 year old women? ( I need to go and study up some police procedural shows I suppose).

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (pDt9x)

~~215~~

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (tgvbd)

216 I'm beginning to suspect that Georgia is populated by some very dishonest Americans.

Almost at the same level as Minnesota.

Sadly, the rest of the United States is paying for this shit. It may be time to start cutting some tits and balls.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (TOSLe)

217 Yes, the current Dems are blue / GOP is red was locked down in the 2000 Bush vs. Gore election.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (2ocoG)

218 Election fraud should be a capital offense. Seriously. There is literally no crime I can think of that harms more people than a stolen, fraudulent election.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 05, 2026 04:37 PM (i2VYc)

219 ok, who did it ?!

Posted by: runner at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (g47mK)

220 Why did they need Trump out?
Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (AveBv)

I believe, more than anything else, it's because Trump set the Marshals to finding the missing children. I believe that is why they could not abide another four years.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (ExV1e)

221
*trudges off to Barrel*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (tgvbd)

222 As a Pollyanna, I encourage you to look on the bright side of all the excess votes generated by the massive election fraud machine in 2020: if the votes were legit, as Democrats insist, then that would imply that Obama was dragging Biden down in 2008 and 2012, and it wasn't until Ol' Bigtalker Joe kicked that Kenyan deadweight to the curb that he was finally able to show his true popularity.

Obama. Unpopular. Deadweight. Nothing but Biden's first two terms. Heh.

Posted by: SciVo at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (Sy6m/)

223 Saying, officially saying, that 2020 was stolen, that everyone knew, and they let it happen, destroys the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ExV1e)

Proscriptions are cleansing.
None of that faggy struggle session crap, though. Bang them into a conex box, four to a 15 footer and leave them there for 5 years, dropping enough MREs in for three prisoners daily

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (rbvCR)

224 Suppose Trump is found to be legally the president 2016-24 so is now on term 2.5.
If Trump is still President after the midterms, he is a dictator.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (gKWVE)

I am ok with that. Also arrest EVERYONE involved and hang them from lampposts. Don't forget the J6 Star Chamber either. No appeal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (zZu0s)

225 Honest question: why does whoever picks these stories out of literally hundreds of options want us to focus on a celebrity journalist's mother's abduction?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (PBE58)

226 "Dominion (now "Liberty Vote") collected some $787 million in damages from Fox News over the story. It will be interesting to see what sort of follow-up there is to those allegations."

WOW, FOX could pay a dozen Megyns with that kind of cash. I if it found out Dominion was lying, can FOX get their money back? And when do Dominion owners go to prison?

Posted by: illiniwek at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (vbXSk)

227 At some point there is the real question of when presidential actions are not presidential. Under our system, Biden didn’t technically lose. But would the election’s illegitimacy compound in any way with his not actually having signed or even directed to be signed many presidential actions?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (EXyHK)

228 They didn't always use the same color for the party colors on the TV maps. The color got locked down in the Bush vs Gore era?
Posted by: Oldca

At the height of the British Empire, lands belonging to the Empire were usually colored red on schoolroom maps.

Not sure what that means now, given over 100 years of gay British communism.

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

229 >>> 156
==
Saying, officially saying, that 2020 was stolen, that everyone knew, and they let it happen, destroys the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ExV1e)

I disagree.

Letting this shit go on, letting the scumbags live on our extorted tax dollars, THAT destroys the country.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (ULPxl)

230 Just got back from the range, and boy do I suck. Need to go back to shotguns and killing pheasants….

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
......

You're just a little rusty. It's been a while since WWII.

Posted by: wth at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (UjdFS)

231 Nullify every judicial appointment made during Biden's "term".
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (i2VYc)

The ruling will be that they were all confirmed by the Senate so their appointment is irrelevant.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (ExV1e)

232 Did they need Putin to invade Uke? Why did they need Trump out?
Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (AveBv)

Biden's nearly first act on taking office was to have US and Brit destroyers start dodging into Crimean coastal waters to spy/provoke the Russians. In the first couple weeks.

Biden and the EUcrats wanted a war because they thought they could collapse Russia with sanctions.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (8avO+)

233 Yes I have dim memories of election night 1984 and all Reagan states were colored blue on the network news (pretty much all that existed in those days). Mondale’s lonely Minnesota all by itself in red…. I forgot when they switched the colors

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (fQqaC)

234 Why “metaphorically”?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (dhHpw)

It's a fig leaf.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (Hx0tZ)

235 Wasn't it Tim Russert who did that?
Posted by: Bulg

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I don't recall which station it was -- either NBC or CBS, I think.

But that was one time. The whole world was Red = Left, Republicans = True Union Blue.

(There is more to this which I will skip) But wikipedia was the main culprit -- they imported a bunch of maps from an earlier website, and they were correct, but wikipedia was full of commies from the start, and they slowly redid all the maps to invert them to make Dems red.

The main reason at the time was because blue was seen as a more "moderate, safer color" that appealed to voters, while red was of course revolution.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (bwRbr)

236 Wrong post #, sorry.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (ULPxl)

237 '*trudges off to Barrel*'

Can you do a solo perp-walk? Never seen it tried.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (N8ZBc)

238
*cavernous, echoing voice*

Haven't been here in a while. What the?... Oh my God!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (tgvbd)

239 * I mean wikipedia inverted the maps to make dems blue.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (bwRbr)

240 At the height of the British Empire, lands belonging to the Empire were usually colored red on schoolroom maps.

Not sure what that means now, given over 100 years of gay British communism.
Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

British soldiers used red coats in the Revolutionary war and Napoleonic wars.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (8avO+)

241 All my shots go low and left. I guess I can shoot an intruder in the kneecap and said that I meant a nonlethal shot.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (wBaIH)

242 If anyone kidnapped Joy Behar the kidnappers would go "The Ransom of Red Chief" before the next city block

Posted by: Smell the Glove at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (Hhsnh)

243 China needed Trump out. It was quite dire.

they and our bolshies then had 4 years to rob us blind and hobble us

Posted by: BlackOrchid at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (emBoF)

244
Under the "case or controversy" clause of Article III of the Constitution, plaintiffs in federal court only have standing to sue if they properly allege that the challenged action or law causes them "concrete and particularized injury in fact."

"case or controversy" clause, otherwise known as the "OrangeManBad Must Be Destroyed" clause.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (y9nCu)

245 227 At some point there is the real question of when presidential actions are not presidential. Under our system, Biden didn’t technically lose. But would the election’s illegitimacy compound in any way with his not actually having signed or even directed to be signed many presidential actions?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (EXyHK)

=======

The actual mechanism of electing the president is the electoral college, affirmed by the Congress of the United States.

There's honestly no practical way the 2020 election gets undone or overturned in any way.

It's a fun fantasy, but it's no more than a fantasy.

The actual mechanisms were followed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

246 *trudges off to Barrel*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Your Majesty, please send The Big Dummy, with a piece of hardtack in his mouth, to Hadrian!

Posted by: Bulg at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

247 68 Clearly the people have lost the confidence of the government.
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:12 PM (jc0TO)

Sweetie, I worked for the government. I have never had faith in it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (I40wl)

248 238 Baal barrel > Cthulu barrel

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (N8ZBc)

249 Yes I have dim memories of election night 1984 and all Reagan states were colored blue on the network news (pretty much all that existed in those days). Mondale’s lonely Minnesota all by itself in red…. I forgot when they switched the colors
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:39 PM (fQqaC)

Pretty sure in that era colors could shift around on the networks. I seem to recall a time they were in pastel shades.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (8avO+)

250 Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (PBE5

Because she's a celebrity journalists mother.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (8Xy/A)

251 >>Or you know let the guy who understand PR and won three elections against the odds do his fucking thing.

He needs to take, "Protect Our Precious Democracy," from the crooks.

Posted by: davidt at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (Q+gd/)

252 Not everything the guy does is brilliant. Sometimes, he just loves celebrities.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:36 PM (BI5O2)

Why when I explain why something he is doing is simple and logical does someone jump in and say it requires nth level intelligence space chess. It doesn't. And I explain exactly why. I said nothing about brilliance. Although he is pretty fucking good at PR, taking on both parties, one from the inside.

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (AveBv)

253 Clamp down on vote fraud. Clamp down on immigration fraud. Clamp down on welfare fraud. And tax fraud. And campaign finance fraud. And, and, and... the US government is completely vacated.

It's all just fuckin' fraud from top to bottom.

If you want to crack down on corruption, you're asking for regime change.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:06 PM (BI5O2)
========

Corruption all the way down to the DMV with "Motor Voter" registration.

Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (rj6Yv)

254 Didn't mailed ballots have unique numbers assigned? I thought Ballot Tracking was employed by the 2020 election and voters using mail in ballots could follow if their completed ballot was successfully delivered, and if their ballot had been successfully counted. (That would take coordination with the USPS, too.)

Those voting in person couldn't necessarily see if their ballot had been successfully counted. (For in person voting in my county of PA, only an "I voted sticker" was made available.)

>Wikipedia, 'Ballot tracking in the United States.'
See 'Tracking websites by state (2020).' Subgroups: State, link, can notify users?

Georgia is listed, link provided and yes, it had the capability to notify users.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (NFX2v)

255 Suppose Trump is found to be legally the president 2016-24 so is now on term 2.5.
If Trump is still President after the midterms, he is a dictator.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (gKWVE)

They cannot determine that Trump was President from '21 - '25. Biden was the legitimate President. The Electoral College voted and the Congress accepted that vote.

They can only determine that the Congress failed in their duty to scrutinize the EC votes and determine that the wrong electors had presented their results.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:42 PM (ExV1e)

256 When all is said and done, Donald Trump won the 2020 election.

In a way it is good that we had to go through this as it has shown without a doubt the Democrats will lie, cheat and steal to increase and maintain their power.

Now if we only had Congress critters and Senators doing everything they can so that this never happens again.

Why the fuck hasn't Thune brought the SAVE act to vote?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (Oq/TM)

257 You have to be some kind of special moron (not the good kind) to even think that a candidate does not have standing to sue re election rules, etc. It's the whole fucking point of the election--of course the candidate would be materially affected by the rules (or non-compliance thereof) because it affects whether he can fairly win the election or not. The argument by the court majority should have been a one-line statement: "Well, duh."

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (XMwZJ)

258 "The actual mechanism of electing the president is the electoral college, affirmed by some of the most corrupt people on the planet."

my edit

Posted by: fd at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (vFG9F)

259 Fiat justitia ruat caelum
Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:32 PM (jc0TO)

órale

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (rbvCR)

260 Suppose Trump is found to be legally the president 2016-24 so is now on term 2.5.

This wouldn’t be the first time the electoral college vote was based on fraud in some of the states. At this point I think it’s settled that it’s the EC vote that matters.

It does, of course, put a different perspective on specific representative actions on January 6.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (EXyHK)

261 248 238 Baal barrel > Cthulu barrel
Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (N8ZBc)

Beer Barrel!

Posted by: Yosh and Stan Schmenge at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (PBE58)

262 245

The actual mechanism of electing the president is the electoral college, affirmed by the Congress of the United States.

There's honestly no practical way the 2020 election gets undone or overturned in any way.

It's a fun fantasy, but it's no more than a fantasy.

The actual mechanisms were followed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

Say it is “undone”. Then what? The practical applications are what? We get a 3 termer? An asterix notation?

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:43 PM (pDt9x)

263 241 All my shots go low and left. I guess I can shoot an intruder in the kneecap and said that I meant a nonlethal shot.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (wBaIH)

Pretty sure Weasel would tell you to get back on the range, work on the fundamentals, and no wobbly shit.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 05, 2026 04:44 PM (I40wl)

264 Corruption all the way down to the DMV with "Motor Voter" registration.
Posted by: mrp at February

Finally motor voter bit the Dems in the ass in PA in 24.

Posted by: BruceWayne at February 05, 2026 04:44 PM (MGB5H)

265 There is a very real chance that Joe Biden had no idea about any of this. He may actually believe he won fair and square, because that's what everyone in his bubble told him.

If he is still lucid enough to understand, I would pay real money to be in the room to watch what's left of his ego be crushed if/when this breaks into mainstream news.

Posted by: Soylent Red at February 05, 2026 04:44 PM (cHNrw)

266 Funnily*

Posted by: BruceWayne at February 05, 2026 04:44 PM (MGB5H)

267 Red and blue used to be alternated.

Posted by: davidt at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (Q+gd/)

268 "Sometimes, he just loves celebrities."

He makes impulsive decisions, sometimes. I think once he gets an idea fixed, nobody can talk him out of it. Or dares.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (N8ZBc)

269 I guess people don't remember how Democrats totally yoinked morality from the Christians with one war and one stupid dumbfuck local Democrat response to a hurricane and one convenient mulatto.

Trump understands what people are paying attention to and how we as a party have been beaten many times in the past. People don't want to know how to win, that's on them. He has shown it.

Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (AveBv)

270 Breaking news from 2020. Yawn. Wake me up when someone is convicted.

Posted by: BirdRockDoc at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (PoaF2)

271 “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” - Bill Barr Dec 1, 2020
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Which he said publicaly.

While privately, he was furiously shutting down not just every investigation, but any hint of an investigation.

A regular Sgt. Schutz.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (aUIT1)

272 >>When all is said and done, Donald Trump won the 2020 election.

It was obvious on election day 2020.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (viF8m)

273 >>> 200 111 This will be fascinating to watch if the 2020 election is determined, legally, to have been tge result of fraud. Should be fun to watch.
Posted by: ErikInTexas

Suppose Trump is found to be legally the president 2016-24 so is now on term 2.5.
If Trump is still President after the midterms, he is a dictator.
Posted by: gKWVE at February 05, 2026 04:35 PM (gKWVE)

Does that mean we get a Dignity Canal? maybe two???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (ULPxl)

274 "All my shots go low and left."

Aim high and right.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (N8ZBc)

275 This will be fascinating to watch if the 2020 election is determined, legally, to have been tge result of fraud. Should be fun to watch. Posted by: ErikInTexas

I'm an iconoclast on ths one, but I think I'm right. The actual Presidential election takes place in 51 places on December 17, when the electors cast their ballots. Everything after that is just a ministerial counting of the ballots that have already been cast. The electors can cast their ballots for anyone they damn well please. What we call the "Presidential" election is actually an election of electors who have pledged to vote for a particular candidate.

The states can choose their electors in any manner they damn well please. 48 of them plus DC have chosen election of a slate, but a couple (Maine and Nebraska) elect electors by Congressional district. The Constitutional key is that the process of choosing electors has to be prescribed by the state legislatures. So the election of a President is ultimately under the control of the state legislatures.

The state legislatures of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona did nothing in 2020 to correct it. Biden was therefore duly elected.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (eStot)

276 @262 -- You could at least put a giant asterisk besides Biden's name in the history books--"...found to be elected via fraudulent means..."

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (XMwZJ)

277 Fiat justitia ruat caelum

Bigus Dickus.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (Kt19C)

278 Why did they need Trump out?
Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (AveBv)

I believe, more than anything else, it's because Trump set the Marshals to finding the missing children. I believe that is why they could not abide another four years.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (ExV1e)

Who are the two demons on the world stage to the mainstream press and one worlders?

Trump - who ejected Epstein, enforced child trafficking investigations

Putin - who stopped adoptions to western same sex couples

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (8avO+)

279 The Fiat Justitia's 3 cylinder 3 cycle engine proved to be unreliable, noisy, and unpopular with Americans, just like every other Fiat.

Posted by: Fiat Facts at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (vFG9F)

280 Did they need Putin to invade Uke? Why did they need Trump out?
Posted by: ... at February 05, 2026 04:34 PM (AveBv)
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A third term and Commander Autopen.

Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (rj6Yv)

281 Honest question: why does whoever picks these stories out of literally hundreds of options want us to focus on a celebrity journalist's mother's abduction?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 05, 2026 04:38 PM (PBE5

Most news, especially broadcast news, is about "famous people" and "dangerous things that could happen to you". Fark claims there is the ongoing need for "blond, pretty female victim" too.

. . . And the final "feel good" story like the unicycle riding doggy, or the donkey that gives out Valentine candy.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (rbvCR)

282 268 "Sometimes, he just loves celebrities."

He makes impulsive decisions, sometimes. I think once he gets an idea fixed, nobody can talk him out of it. Or dares.
Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (N8ZBc)

Not to minimize the kidnapping, but it could be handled by others. Patel’s presence does not seem to functionally add much.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (pDt9x)

283 Cut off all federal funding to these states. Only subsidize those institutions that are of benefit to our national security.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (TOSLe)

284 Despite all the obvious fuckery, in retrospect it all worked out for the better. I agree with that sentiment already expressed above…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (fQqaC)

285 241 All my shots go low and left. I guess I can shoot an intruder in the kneecap and said that I meant a nonlethal shot.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at February 05, 2026 04:40 PM (wBaIH)
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Classic "Three Amigos" for a right-handed shooter!

You're squeezing with the other three non-trigger fingers when you fire, pulling everything low/left.

Posted by: ballistic at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (3BwY8)

286 175 The state legislatures of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona did nothing in 2020 to correct it. Biden was therefore duly elected.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (eStot)

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I would say that the states lied to the people of their states about how electors are chosen and denied them representative government.

But that's more of an academic classification than anything else.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:47 PM (GBKbO)

287 "All my shots go low and left."

Aim high and right.
Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (N8ZBc)

Until you change ammo.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (Hx0tZ)

288 It's interesting to pull of media articles from the second week of November 2020. Every single one of them tries (in an over compensating manner) to hammer home that the election had no fraud, and Georgia (especially) was secure.

It's interesting to see all the names that pop up pushing that narrative for all they're worth. Karl Rove is front and center. And, the conventional wisdom (commonality of comment) of all of the is first a concession (yes, Trump got more black male votes in Georgia) and then the rationalization of why he still lost (more people voted that before, lots for the first time)....which plays into the article Ace posted above.

Posted by: Orson at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (dIske)

289 167 Saying, officially saying, that 2020 was stolen, that everyone knew, and they let it happen, destroys the country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:28 PM (ExV1e)

If it gets destroyed by the truth, it deserves to get destroyed by the truth.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 05, 2026 04:30 PM (Hx0tZ)

Couldn't agree more, but normalcy bias and status quo bias are a hell of a drug. There are a shocking number of people, even self-identified "conservatives" who would rather see MAGA die and voter fraud continue ad aeternam than upset the system, even though the system is corrupt as fuck.

Posted by: Eisenhower will never be President again. Get over it. at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (TbWk/)

290 I like the red. It always bugged me that the bad guys got the red and black and we had to settle for blue and white like a bunch of freakin Bourbons.

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (jc0TO)

291 272 >>When all is said and done, Donald Trump won the 2020 election.

It was obvious on election day 2020.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2026 04:45 PM (viF8m)

Oh I agree.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (pDt9x)

292 @262 -- You could at least put a giant asterisk besides Biden's name in the history books--"...found to be elected via fraudulent means..."
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (XMwZJ)

Have to put one next to JFK, too.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (8avO+)

293 We can't change who acted as president.

And we can't untake the shot.

Posted by: People who were bullied into it at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (b0pva)

294 276 @262 -- You could at least put a giant asterisk besides Biden's name in the history books--"...found to be elected via fraudulent means..."
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (XMwZJ)

Trump kind of already did just that with the President auto pen photo at the White House.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (AywZy)

295
At this point I think it’s settled that it’s the EC vote that matters.

Speaking of votes that don't matter, I can't wait for someone to go all Van Helsing and drive a stake into that "he won the popular vote!" bullshit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2026 04:49 PM (y9nCu)

296 I just now realized that Savannah Guthrie is a "celebrity journalist." Had no idea why this kidnapping was of "national interest."

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 04:50 PM (XMwZJ)

297 There is a very real chance that Joe Biden had no idea about any of this. He may actually believe he won fair and square, because that's what everyone in his bubble told him.

If he is still lucid enough to understand, I would pay real money to be in the room to watch what's left of his ego be crushed if/when this breaks into mainstream news.
Posted by: Soylent Red at February 05, 2026 04:44 PM (cHNrw)

Biden had a Freudian slip right after the election ... something about "all our voter fraud efforts" or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:51 PM (8avO+)

298 I would pay real money to be in the room to watch what's left of his ego be crushed if/when this breaks into mainstream news.
Posted by: Soylent Red

I’ll kiss a fat dogs ass if this ever gets reported by the MSM.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 05, 2026 04:51 PM (W2Pud)

299 Style guide correction: "Illegal immigrants with CDLs killing Americans released into the country by the BIDEN REGIME" is ammended to conclude "allowed to remain in the country by the TRUMP REGIME."

Posted by: ErikInTexas at February 05, 2026 04:51 PM (QXOBW)

300
The state legislatures of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona did nothing in 2020 to correct it. Biden was therefore duly elected.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:46 PM (eStot)
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The Dems and their MSM mouthpieces went on a jihad against the Trump alternative slate of electors in the contested states. The judges ruling that states didn't have standing to file suit against the election results made the persecution easier for the cheaters.

Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2026 04:51 PM (rj6Yv)

301 My focus is not on how we fix the 4 years under Biden. That ship has sailed and we will spend years digging out.

My focus is on making sure it never happens again because if it does the country won't survive. Expose all of it, punish those that can be to the extent its possible but more than anything fix the policies that allowed it to happen so it will never happen again.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (viF8m)

302 Never heard of Savannah Guthrie before her Mom got kidnapped.My next comment is to crude and out there, so I will refrain.

Posted by: tubal at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (pDt9x)

303 You can't unwind an election.

We don't actually elect a President, we elect electors. The electors are certified by the House and then they elect the President. If the wrong ones are certified, well, tough noogies.

It is like when Jacob worked for 7 years for Rachel's dad but the dad sent Leah into the dark tent instead and he ended up married to her. Can't be unfucked.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (bwRbr)

304 288 It's interesting to see all the names that pop up pushing that narrative for all they're worth. Karl Rove is front and center. And, the conventional wisdom (commonality of comment) of all of the is first a concession (yes, Trump got more black male votes in Georgia) and then the rationalization of why he still lost (more people voted that before, lots for the first time)....which plays into the article Ace posted above.

Posted by: Orson at February 05, 2026 04:48 PM (dIske)

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"Mail in voting got more people to vote than ever before, finally ending Republican suppression of minority votes and getting us close to fully reflecting the will of the people. How else do you explain 90%+ turnout?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (GBKbO)

305
*Had no idea why this kidnapping was of "national interest."*

>ahem

Posted by: Mouse clicks and page views at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (b0pva)

306 Speaking of votes that don't matter, I can't wait for someone to go all Van Helsing and drive a stake into that "he won the popular vote!" bullshit.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2026 04:49 PM (y9nCu)

Crushing out fraud in the states and having us win the popular margin will do that naturally. Note that the popular vote total is never mentioned by the press now.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (8avO+)

307 Oh, yes, Savannah Guthrie is pretty. That's another reason for her mother to be a story. Her mother looks remarkably good as well. She doesn't look 84. I hope they find the poor woman alive and o.k. And the fact that TRump sent agents to look for her probably means that Ms. Guthrienow has a higher opinion of Trump than she probably did before, And I expect he called her personally.

AS to whether agents should be diverted to this, I"ve leave that to other folks here to determine

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 05, 2026 04:53 PM (8Xy/A)

308 Biden had a Freudian slip right after the election ... something about "all our voter fraud efforts" or something.
Posted by: Oldcat at February

Greatest or largest vote fraud machine in history I believe.

Posted by: BruceWayne at February 05, 2026 04:53 PM (MGB5H)

309 306 Speaking of votes that don't matter, I can't wait for someone to go all Van Helsing and drive a stake into that "he won the popular vote!" bullshit.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2026 04:49 PM (y9nCu)

Crushing out fraud in the states and having us win the popular margin will do that naturally. Note that the popular vote total is never mentioned by the press now.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (8avO+)

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It's a fantasy of mine that the voter rolls are forcibly cleaned up before 2028 (really 2026) and that the GOP vote largely remains static from 2024 while the Democrat vote drops by like 10 million.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

310 Three weeks ago, the Supreme Court injected some sanity back into election contests, determining that, yes, the actual candidates in elections do have legal standing to challenge election rules.

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How generous of them. Why do I get the feeling that they were in on it too?

Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2026 04:54 PM (OP9Gm)

311 At Futurism: "New Site Lets AI Rent Human Bodies"

Finally, somebody who might employ me!

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (N8ZBc)

312 In School,at least when I went, if you are seen cheating during a test, you fail the test, it doesn't matter if you only cheated on ONE answer, you get caught cheating once, how many times did you not get caught, you get a ZERO on the test. In sports, during a play if you cheat, doesn't matter, if it affected the play or not, that play is nullified, you have to start over and work from the beginning, only you are penalized the time, the out the down whatever the standard.

But for the most POWERFUL group of people in the world If you cheat . . . .ehhhh, Just a little bit? Big deal, they all do that's how things work?

FUCK YOU! YOU ARE WRONG, FUCKING PAY!

Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (2a0yj)

313 My wife supports Trump, but that's the extent of her political awareness. She barely understands how elections work.

When they stopped counting in the middle if the night she said "oh my G-d, YD they're stealing the election."

EVERYONE knew.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (BI5O2)

314 In the military, aren't the blue force the good guys?

Posted by: JM in Illinois at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (3Rqcs)

315 The Dems and their MSM mouthpieces went on a jihad against the Trump alternative slate of electors in the contested states. The judges ruling that states didn't have standing to file suit against the election results made the persecution easier for the cheaters. Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2026 04:51 PM (rj6Yv)

I love Ken Paxton like a brother, but Texas suing Pennsylvania over its voting process was profoundly shortsighted. If that had been allowed to go forward, it is a 100% guarantee that California would have sued Texas 4 years later, and once that happened, there would be no bar to every blue state suing every red state and vice versa, and the Supreme Court forever being required to decide the winner of every Presidential election between the 1st Tuesday in November and January 20.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (eStot)

316 The greatest fraud operation was BEFORE the election. One of the few campaign stops he did, iirc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (zZu0s)

317 I think Trump's angling for a 3rd term. Low probability chance, but this "investigation" isn't only about him being robbed of the 2020 win. This has stuck in his craw about as bad as J6 has.

He's never very sanguine about either of those events. He's usually pretty pissed off.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (jtM2q)

318 In our 'Sacred Democracy', didn't Hillary Clinton win the pop-pop-popular vote?

Which is it? Electoral College or Popular Vote? Make up your fucking minds.

I think Al Gore was shitting his pants over this...

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at February 05, 2026 04:56 PM (TOSLe)

319 310 How generous of them. Why do I get the feeling that they were in on it too?

Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2026 04:54 PM (OP9Gm)

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The Supreme Court merely chickened out.

Roberts, reportedly, begged and pleaded with the other 8 to not take up TX v PA because, he assured them, the country would go back to normal once Trump was gone. Alito and Thomas were apparently very pissed at this.

Ever since, Alito and Thomas have effectively taken over the court. Roberts feels secondary to most of the decisions that have come out from the Fall 2021 term onwards.

Roberts' callous fear seems to have turned people like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh completely against him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

320 The tariff case? Really complicated with a bunch of stuff going through the arguments which probably indicates a very difficult consensus to reach with really narrow bounds that will be difficult to write (and rewrite as drafts get sent back and forth).

It'll probably be one of the last opinions issued in June.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Scotus has punted on tough cases before and ordered rearguing the case based on new legal tangents or change in court personnel.

Posted by: whig at February 05, 2026 04:56 PM (2swu2)

321 It's a fantasy of mine that the voter rolls are forcibly cleaned up before 2028 (really 2026) and that the GOP vote largely remains static from 2024 while the Democrat vote drops by like 10 million.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:53 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm glad you recognize that as a fantasy because it's about as likely to occur as my fantasy involving Sydney Sweeney and a 5-gallon drum of baby oil.

Posted by: ballistic at February 05, 2026 04:56 PM (3BwY8)

322 Remember, Trump was so confident that he'd win by so much, he never planned to need election lawyers.

And the fraud was so brazen and over-the-top, I think he was shocked.

So, he had to draft Rudi and that wet-behind-the-ears lady lawyer in a pinch.

2024, he had lawyers in every state.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 05, 2026 04:57 PM (aUIT1)

323 It's a fantasy of mine that the voter rolls are forcibly cleaned up before 2028 (really 2026) and that the GOP vote largely remains static from 2024 while the Democrat vote drops by like 10 million.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

"They've stolen our democracy! They stole our votes!" -- The people advocating for illegals to cancel out the votes of citizens

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 05, 2026 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

324 320 Scotus has punted on tough cases before and ordered rearguing the case based on new legal tangents or change in court personnel.

Posted by: whig at February 05, 2026 04:56 PM (2swu2)

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I suspect the decision will amount to "Lower courts should have taken each tariff and pronouncement individually instead of as a class as required by statute. Go back and do it again."

And Trump will just change the authority of all the tariffs and none of it will matter before it ever gets reargued.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:57 PM (GBKbO)

325 "The tariff case? Really complicated"

No doubt. If the court rules against DJT, will he comply? That's a rollback of a trillion-dollar decision.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (N8ZBc)

326 Like whether or not you verify signatures or not.

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If you can't verify them why require them at all? Do these brilliant legal minds have even a casual acquaintance with logic and reasoning? Or are they so arrogant that they don't think the hoi polloi don't have any sense?

Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (OP9Gm)

327 I love Ken Paxton like a brother, but Texas suing Pennsylvania over its voting process was profoundly shortsighted. If that had been allowed to go forward, it is a 100% guarantee that California would have sued Texas 4 years later, and once that happened, there would be no bar to every blue state suing every red state and vice versa, and the Supreme Court forever being required to decide the winner of every Presidential election between the 1st Tuesday in November and January 20.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (eStot)

Except that Pennsylvania was violating Pennsylvania law with the rules that it was implementing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (ExV1e)

328 I think Trump's angling for a 3rd term.

Regardless, he would have to start off with a totally different cabinet.

This one is an All Star Team. A Political Woodstock. Won't be able to duplicate this ever.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (nAS9C)

329 I love Ken Paxton like a brother
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (eStot)
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You should probably stop that. Ken Paxton, as you noted, is a shortsighted, grandstanding idiot who sucks as a Republican in a state as Republican as Texas.

Posted by: ballistic at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (3BwY8)

330 The electoral college is an outdated vestige of white supremacy and slavery.
-HS history teacher

Posted by: BruceWayne at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (MGB5H)

331 325 "The tariff case? Really complicated"

No doubt. If the court rules against DJT, will he comply? That's a rollback of a trillion-dollar decision.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (N8ZBc)

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The president has multiple authorities to impose tarrifs.

He'll just change the authority.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

332 I wonder if when the fraud is proven that write up in my personnel file can get removed or bare minimum an asterisk.

Posted by: connected and litigious at February 05, 2026 04:59 PM (cS1cw)

333 "So, he had to draft Rudi and that wet-behind-the-ears lady lawyer in a pinch."

Don't make me release my kraken!!

Posted by: Sydney Powell at February 05, 2026 04:59 PM (b0pva)

334 >>> 312 In School,at least when I went, if you are seen cheating during a test, you fail the test, it doesn't matter if you only cheated on ONE answer, you get caught cheating once, how many times did you not get caught, you get a ZERO on the test. In sports, during a play if you cheat, doesn't matter, if it affected the play or not, that play is nullified, you have to start over and work from the beginning, only you are penalized the time, the out the down whatever the standard.

But for the most POWERFUL group of people in the world If you cheat . . . .ehhhh, Just a little bit? Big deal, they all do that's how things work?

FUCK YOU! YOU ARE WRONG, FUCKING PAY!
Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (2a0yj)

wickedpinto Johnson is right!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (ULPxl)

335 331 325 "The tariff case? Really complicated"

No doubt. If the court rules against DJT, will he comply? That's a rollback of a trillion-dollar decision.

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (N8ZBc)

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The president has multiple authorities to impose tarrifs.

He'll just change the authority.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!

Posted by: No, really. I've heard that argument. at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (TbWk/)

336 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:52 PM (GBKbO)

_____________________________

I still think there are FISA warrants that preceded the FBI's search warrant (which is why Senator Warner is freaking out, he suspects but doesn't know for sure).

This article above seems like a planned roll out to solicit the usual suspects defending their "the election was secure" narrative.....and then they're going to drop the bomb. I think the FBI letter from Atlanta FBI Agent in Charge was to light a fire under certain individuals who would certainly want to discuss the ramifications of a search warrant, and any FISA warrant is going to catch those conversations. IOW, the Agent in Charge in Atlanta was taking one for the team, and comes across as issuing a heads up, but was really stirring up the hornet's nest to secure more evidence via surveillance.

Posted by: Orson at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (dIske)

337 I laugh every time I think about that Kraken bullshit. That was a real low point, in a lot of ways.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (BI5O2)

338 At Futurism: "New Site Lets AI Rent Human Bodies"
Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (0sNs1)

339 I think Trump's angling for a 3rd term.
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I once would have cared.

Once. Not anymore. He can have a 4th term as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Crusader at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (TN0g+)

340 So SweetDick and Choco the Hutt were the clean up crew?

We don't deserve Trump.

Posted by: Hillary at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (hArFf)

341 nood

Posted by: gp at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (N8ZBc)

342 Except that Pennsylvania was violating Pennsylvania law with the rules that it was implementing. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM (ExV1e)

And the Pennsylvania state legislature, which has the Constitutional jurisdiction over it, as well as over its own laws, let it go. Texas has absolutely no power over how Pennsylvania implements its laws, because that also gives Pennsylvania power over how Texas implements its laws.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM (eStot)

343 I was in the Marine Corps once, I don't know if I ever mentioned.

There was a guy who LITERALLY could not run his PFT on time because he wore the wrong shorts at formation. That means, he was out of uniform, and so he missed formation. Not a big deal in general, but he didn't run his PFT with the unit. Instead he had to run it later with the PCP (I can't remember the proper definition, but we called it the Pork Chop Platoon. . .the Fat kids who had to run twice a day (like the rest of us, but we chose) rather than the requisite one) Normally not a big deal, but if he were to attend a board, or a medal review or an MOS review he would have been fucked, because automatically he didn't meet the standards necessary.

"Lucky" for him, he was a piece of shit Marine so nobody cared about him getting fucked over because he deserved it, and the odds of him standing a board is the same as mine being able to bang Jessica Rabbit.

If it works for 19 year old kids who are trusted with MILLIONS of dollars in their hands, the ability to chose between life and death at any given moment, I think it applies to elected officials.

Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (2a0yj)

344 wickedpinto Johnson is right!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 05, 2026 05:00 PM

Bitch Status

[X] Broken
[_] Other than Broken

Posted by: toby928(c) at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (jc0TO)

345 Do these brilliant legal minds have even a casual acquaintance with logic and reasoning?
That's a rhetorical question, right? But to answer it, no, they're fucking retards and have no acquaintance whatsoever with logic and reason.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (XMwZJ)

346 Nood. Congress being Congress.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (ExV1e)

347 ******
IMO, I think PDJT doesn't trust the fibees with this and sent Tulsi to oversee the operation. I believe it was recently revealed an agent sent a letter to Fulton Co officials that appeared to tip them off about the impending raid.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly
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From ace's clip earlier today Brett Baier asks Patel about the Chinese Wet Market in Las Vegas and Patel answers about the FBI stopping bad seeds from coming into Michigan.

Seed not being a euphemism for a bad person he's talking about seed crop seeds as the FBI's focus, not a fucking Chinese Wet Lab.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (a0V+E)

348 *That was a real low point, in a lot of ways.*

Is this about me?

Posted by: Rudy's eye makeup running down his cheeks at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (b0pva)

349 Regardless, he would have to start off with a totally different cabinet.

This one is an All Star Team. A Political Woodstock. Won't be able to duplicate this ever.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at February 05, 2026 04:58 PM

Preach it!

Posted by: Pam Bondi at February 05, 2026 05:02 PM (0sNs1)

350 That is only a problem if you use white male slaveowner math. Black and Brown people, and women, have different ways of knowing.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 05, 2026 05:02 PM (AlhUl)

351 In School,at least when I went, if you are seen cheating during a test, you fail the test, it doesn't matter if you only cheated on ONE answer, you get caught cheating once, how many times did you not get caught, you get a ZERO on the test.
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Senior year of college, there was a truly special beautiful blonde who was one of the only real life "10" beauties I've ever met. Not "9". Not "9.5". "10", and I've asserted before that there are no 10s. She sat beside me in a final exam and motioned that she wanted to see my exam paper. Turned her down stone-cold. There was no way I was risking a zero on a final exam.

Posted by: Crusader at February 05, 2026 05:04 PM (TN0g+)

352 >The Hill, Cybersecurity, Nov. 2019
DHS cyber agency invests in election auditing tool to secure 2020 elections

"The tool has already been used to conduct post-election audits across the country, including during the recent 2019 elections. Election officials in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia, Ohio and Georgia have signed on to partner with CISA on Arlo, with more officials expected to join.

“Heading into 2020, we’re exploring all possible ways that we can support state and local election officials while also ensuring that Americans across the country can confidently cast their votes,” CISA Director Christopher Krebs said in a statement.
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During 2019 and 2020, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) underwent significant leadership transitions, with no single Senate-confirmed secretary serving the entire period.

Chris Krebs was the first director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), serving from November 2018 until he was fired by President Donald Trump via Twitter on November 17, 2020.

Krebs ran a "Rumor Control page" to combat election misinformation, which angered the White House and led to his termination.
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Were the fed. agencies setup?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at February 05, 2026 05:04 PM (NFX2v)

353 Roberts needs to live in infamy with the likes of Benedict Arnold.

Sadly though, under America's current education system, no students have any earthly idea who Arnold was. Most would think he starred is some Conan the Barbarian movies or was married to some actress named Roseanne Barr.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at February 05, 2026 05:05 PM (i2VYc)

354 Fulton County

2008: Barky 272k McVain 130k

2012: Barky 256k Mittens 137k

2016: Clinton 297k Trump 117k

2020: Biden 381K Trump 137K

2024: Harris 384k Trump 145k

So its pretty clear the fraud op went into overdrive in 2020 but they kept it going in 2024 as well

Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2026 05:05 PM (sKqQm)

355 We, the citizens, endured four years of the "Biden Presidency" because of this. Regardless of what you think of Trump, WE got screwed.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 05, 2026 04:10 PM (ExV1e)

The Democrats baked severe damage into our national cake that will take decades, if ever, to correct.

The inflation, the loss of jobs, the unwanted and unneeded foreign invasion via illegal aliens.

Every single law and action taken by the Biden administration should be revoked and reversed. Every single immigrant should be shown the border and kicked across it. Those who can be shown to have participated in the fraud should go to prison or exile. Buuuuut, I suspect this is all but a dream. A beautiful, beautiful dream.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 05, 2026 05:06 PM (iJfKG)

356 I love Ken Paxton like a brother, but Texas suing Pennsylvania over its voting process was profoundly shortsighted. If that had been allowed to go forward, it is a 100% guarantee that California would have sued Texas 4 years later, and once that happened, there would be no bar to every blue state suing every red state and vice versa, and the Supreme Court forever being required to decide the winner of every Presidential election between the 1st Tuesday in November and January 20.
Posted by: Caesar North

The supreme court was specifically constituted to hear cases between the states. There is no other court.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 05, 2026 05:07 PM (0U5gm)

357 " Roberts feels secondary to most of the decisions that have come out from the Fall 2021 term onwards. "

There were two justices that I worried about watching as they were sworn in. Kavanaugh OUTRIGHT looked terrified, he wasn't ready for prime time, he was out right shaking during the oath. I understand the nerves, but you prep yourself for that and get it out of your system in advance. Kavanaugh is scared.

Roberts, He was OVERLY proud, false bravado, no stern character, he Lept in, got it over, and got out after the pats on his family's heads.

I wasn't SURE about Roberts, but I WAS sure about Kavanaugh. Roberts is a squish if it hurts that moment of glory. Kavanaugh is only NOW facing the crucible.

Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 05:07 PM (2a0yj)

358 There was no way I was risking a zero on a final exam.
Posted by: Crusader at February 05, 2026 05:04 PM (TN0g+)

I guess a blowjob was out of the question, then.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 05, 2026 05:08 PM (Uod8Q)

359 353 Roberts needs to live in infamy with the likes of Benedict Arnold.

Sadly though, under America's current education system, no students have any earthly idea who Arnold was. Most would think he starred is some Conan the Barbarian movies or was married to some actress named Roseanne Barr.

Unfortunately, Benedict WAS an American Hero, but he was operating under the idea that the US wanted to achieve equal status with the English, rather than true independence, and then he broke his oath. Benedict wasn't the worst of those who betrayed the US, he is just the most prominent of the revolutionary hero's.

It's really a funny thing. . . people think that America is arrogant because we talk about kicking the brit's ass.

The founding fathers WANTED to STAY BRITTISH! We WANTED IT! But George the third, made a common democrat mistake thinking that position offered power, and in America that cow don't fly. After George tried to stifle us as vassals we said NO, we are FREE.

Bennedict was hoping for a reconciliation, and he fucked up, he was, I would say the most noble traitor, because he did deliver us many victories in battle.

Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 05:12 PM (2a0yj)

360 As someone apparently said at some point in the South:

"Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit."

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at February 05, 2026 05:12 PM (WONhk)

361 Tell me where this butter and these butts are Christy.

Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 05:13 PM (2a0yj)

362 Buuuuut, I suspect this is all but a dream. A beautiful, beautiful dream.

Adding... "unappoint every damned judge Biden put in the chair"

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at February 05, 2026 05:16 PM (9Hs2w)

363 Everything the Democrat's have touched in 40 plus years has lost value, and destroyed any respect.
Other than the FBI and CIA, those were always sinecures for elites who wanted to control the proles.

Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 05:21 PM (2a0yj)

364 "Then there is the news about Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. Grand jury testimony that was just unsealed revealed that Kemp told the chief of Georgia Bureau of Investigation not to investigation allegations of fraud in the 2020 election, Saying he was a "team player," the official dropped the case."

Yes, but which team was Brian on? I think he may find himself in a world of hurt, and not too long from now.

Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at February 05, 2026 04:20 PM (vcOmj)
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There is a reason he pulled his name out of the senate race

Posted by: Black JEM at February 05, 2026 05:23 PM (GZYu7)

365 I think Trump's angling for a 3rd term. Low probability chance, but this "investigation" isn't only about him being robbed of the 2020 win. This has stuck in his craw about as bad as J6 has.

He's never very sanguine about either of those events. He's usually pretty pissed off.

YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 05, 2026 04:55 PM (jtM2q)

It would be the ultimate troll. Nobody has won 4 straight elections and nobody ever will.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 05:30 PM (8avO+)

366 It's a fantasy of mine that the voter rolls are forcibly cleaned up before 2028 (really 2026) and that the GOP vote largely remains static from 2024 while the Democrat vote drops by like 10 million.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for twisted thrills with Park Chan-wook at February 05, 2026 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

"They've stolen our democracy! They stole our votes!" -- The people advocating for illegals to cancel out the votes of citizens
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 05, 2026 04:57 PM (KbCG3)

That pretty much already happened from 2020 to 2024 with those mystery millions of Dem votes not showing up

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 05:32 PM (8avO+)

367 Do these brilliant legal minds have even a casual acquaintance with logic and reasoning?
That's a rhetorical question, right? But to answer it, no, they're fucking retards and have no acquaintance whatsoever with logic and reason.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at February 05, 2026 05:01 PM (XMwZJ)

Lawyers are advocates. Logic and reason are often impediments, not boons.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 05:37 PM (8avO+)

368 Bennedict was hoping for a reconciliation, and he fucked up, he was, I would say the most noble traitor, because he did deliver us many victories in battle.
Posted by: wickedpinto at February 05, 2026 05:12 PM (2a0yj)

BA was a great fighter and probably won the battle of Saratoga on his own. My take is that he was shelved a bit in later years, got bitter and turned instead of having some high ideals. His penchant for burning colonial property when he joined the brits.

But I am not super well read on his life.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 05, 2026 05:52 PM (8avO+)

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