RFKJr. Unveils What Leftwing Ninnies Are Calling an "Upside-Down" Food Pyramid

No, it's rightside up. The old one was upside down, created out of nothing besides what one Senator's quack doctor told him about nutrition, plus lots of lobbying by vegetarians who constantly pressure the government into lying about nutrition.

But sure, "upside down."

The White House on Wednesday unveiled new dietary guidelines, with officials calling it the "most significant reset of federal nutrition policy in history."
The new guidelines were represented with an upside-down pyramid placing vegetables, fruits, proteins, dairy and healthy fats at the top and whole grains at the bottom.
"The new guidelines recognize that whole, nutrient-dense food is the most effective path to better health and lower health care costs," said Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
"The new framework centers on protein and healthy fats, vegetables, fruits and whole grains. It's upside down, a lot of people say. It was actually upside down before," he added.
The initial food pyramid was introduced in the 1990s, showing a small amount of sugars at the top, recommending 2-4 servings of dairy, meat, fruit and vegetables in the middle, and 8-11 servings of bread, rice, pasta and other grains at the bottom. It was updated to "My Plate" under the Obama administration.
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It was the first White House press briefing of 2026.
"Diets rich in vegetables and fruits reduce disease risk more effectively than many drugs," Kennedy added. "All grains outperform refined carbohydrates, added sugars, especially sugar sweetened beverages, drive metabolic disease, and today, our government declares war on added sugar, highly processed foods loaded with additives, added sugar and excess salt."
Rollins said these guidelines will apply to whole foods whether they are "fresh, frozen, canned or dried."
"These new guidelines are going to update the food that is served to America's children in our public schools to the plates that are served to our great men in uniform, in our military, our veterans, in the food that they are consuming at the VA and these new guidelines are also going to impact nutritional programs for the needy in our country, such as WIC and Head Start," Leavitt said, adding that these new guidelines would also help Americans save "thousands" on groceries.

HHS's statement is here.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and U.S. Department of Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins today released the Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2025--2030, marking the most significant reset of federal nutrition policy in decades.
The new Guidelines deliver a clear, common-sense message to the American people: eat real food.
The U.S. faces a national health emergency. Nearly 90% of health care spending goes toward treating chronic disease, much of it linked to diet and lifestyle. More than 70% of American adults are overweight or obese, and nearly 1 in 3 adolescents has prediabetes. Diet-driven chronic disease now disqualifies many young Americans from military service, threatening national readiness and limiting opportunity.
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"Under President Trump's leadership, the Administration is restoring scientific integrity, accountability, and common sense to federal health guidance. The 2025--2030 Guidelines reestablish food--not pharmaceuticals--as the foundation of health and reclaim the food pyramid as a tool for nourishment and education.
The Guidelines emphasize simple, flexible guidance rooted in modern nutrition science:
Prioritize protein at every meal
Consume full-fat dairy with no added sugars
Eat vegetables and fruits throughout the day, focusing on whole forms
Incorporate healthy fats from whole foods such as meats, seafood, eggs, nuts, seeds, olives, and avocados
Focus on whole grains, while sharply reducing refined carbohydratesLimit highly processed foods, added sugars, and artificial additives
Eat the right amount for you, based on age, sex, size, and activity level
Choose water and unsweetened beverages to support hydration
Limit alcohol consumption for better overall health

Nutritional reformer and debunker of lies Nina Teichholz isn't satisfied -- the new dietary suggestions continue claiming that animal fat is bad for you and must be capped at 10% of all calories. Which she says make the new recommendations contradictory, given that they suggest a protein-first diet.

Delayed for months, the highly anticipated new U.S. Dietary Guidelines for Americans will be released to the public tomorrow, followed by a large (invite-only) event at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) on Thursday. As promised, the new guidelines are expected to be only about eight pages, far shorter than the 100+ tomes of previous administrations. The guidelines are also likely to include a lengthy appendix with scientific reviews to justify their changes.
The one widely touted reform was an "end to the war on saturated fat," as both HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and FDA Commissioner Marty Makary have repeatedly pledged since taking office--including as recently as Nov 27th. This was a revolutionary proposal. The cap on saturated fats has been a bedrock piece of advice since the launch of this policy in 1980, and it is why so many Americans avoid red meat, drink skim milk, and opt to cook with seed oils over butter.
Yet I learned from two administration officials that saturated fats will not be liberated after all. The longstanding 10% of calories cap on these fats will remain.
At the same time, the guidelines' language will encourage cooking with "butter" and "tallow," both of which are high in saturated fat. It will also introduce a colorful new food pyramid with proteins--including red meat--occupying the largest portion. These are powerful messages, never before conveyed by our national food policy, and are likely to influence consumer behavior.

Teichholz is a Hot MILF who probably looks good in a white lab coat and therefore all of what she says is presumptively true. Still, the new recommendations are good, and big, first step.

She notes that the new guidelines finally advocate for a low-carb diet, for those who tend to be fluffy:

Other Changes to the Guidelines
Before taking a deeper dive into saturated fats, here are some other details of the revamped guidelines I've learned:
• The limit on sugar will be dramatically lowered, from the current limit of 10% of calories to possibly 2% of calories, although that target may be for children only.
• A low-carbohydrate diet will be included as a possible option for people with obesity, diabetes, and perhaps other metabolic diseases. This is a huge win and one for which the Nutrition Coalition, the non-profit group I founded, has been advocating since 2020. This new low-carb option will be included in a section entitled "special considerations," even though 93% of American adults are metabolically unhealthy, according to a 2022 paper based on government data, making low-carb seem logical as a more mainstream approach. An important caveat here is that achieving a low-carbohydrate diet, which is almost always higher in fish, meat, dairy, butter, and fat generally, will be impossible with the continued 10% cap on saturated fats.

This is a psyop to make liberals too fat to fight against the government as they will reflexively just do the opposite of this https://t.co/vwiuYe4Gxy
— Danny Polishchuk (@Dannyjokes) January 7, 2026

Good. I hope they choke on it.

Posted by: Ace at 04:30 PM

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Posted by: GF at January 07, 2026 04:29 PM (bzIVz)

2 Obviously a sop to Big Vegetable.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 04:30 PM (ExV1e)

3 This is the health advice I was hoping for.
Although there are tweaks to be made based on personal genetics.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 07, 2026 04:30 PM (gKWVE)

4 Getting to the 1g of protein per target lb of body weight is hard to do while staying low on fat. Unless you eat a lot of steak and eggs and fish.

I get really tired of fish quick.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 04:30 PM (zZu0s)

5 I insurrected the previous thread.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 04:30 PM (ExV1e)

6 If chocolate and beer aren't at the top, it's still BS.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 07, 2026 04:32 PM (s0JqF)

7 Let me be the first to say Duh...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 07, 2026 04:32 PM (VE6XX)

8 and no seed oils!!

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 04:33 PM (jc0TO)

9 It's the flavor pyramid.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 04:33 PM (jc0TO)

10 The best diet is what I've termed, Augmented Vegetarianism.

Lot's of meats and green and cruciferous vegetables, very few carbs.

Carb intake should be limited to grain alcohol and gummie bears.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (XV/Pl)

11 Carbs taste good because they are a quick and easy source of calories - like candy. And in the old days when calories were in short supply getting your hands on something chock full of them was good for you.

But now when half the population is overweight? To the extent the government should be getting involved with discussions of what you should eat it should be telling people to eat meat and vegetables not bread, french fries, or candy

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (sKqQm)

12 Almost exactly the way we eat at home. Lots of protein, lots of vegetables.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (pDt9x)

13 Teichholz is a Hot MILF who probably looks good in a white lab coat and therefore all of what she says is presumptively true. Still, the new recommendations are good, and big, first step.

Holy smokes, she's 60. I need to eat like she does.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (Riz8t)

14 Turkey #1

Posted by: Rex B at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (q0lgp)

15 Some people on the right are still not sold on Kennedy, but I love what he's doing, and I love the fact that he's in charge of HHS. He pisses off the right people every day, and he doesn't give a shit about doing it. He has no ambitions for any other job past this one, and every day in the office is just another YOLO! for him. I love it!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (uWKK8)

16 So the old "guidelines" have been in place since 1980? I was a young adult then, and absorbed the notion that red meat, eggs, and butter were bad for you. It's taken me a while to get over that brainwashing.

I think I'll have some roasted chicken for dinner tonight, along with some veggies and a salad!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (wzUl9)

17 RFKJr. Unveils What Leftwing Ninnies Are Calling an "Upside-Down" Food Pyramid
—Ace
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Oh no! People would be eating less sugar!

That's not what the sweets industries paid for all those years ago!

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (krQz2)

18 Carbs are a cheap source of calories. Fats are much more dense.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (jc0TO)

19 I see that once again, Cheetohs have not received their place in the sun. I refuse to accept the new pyramid for this reason.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (Riz8t)

20 On its own that food triangle tells me nothing.
Does it come with an instruction manual

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (/lPRQ)

21 I'd argue RFK has been one of Trump's more effective picks. Behind Rubio and Bessent certainly but that's a high bar right there.

Put RFK in Trump's first cabinet and he's the best guy there

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (sKqQm)

22 But... But... all those proteins and animal fats might lead to an increase in Men's testosterone!

Can't have that!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (mP0Kj)

23 I think I'll have some roasted chicken for dinner tonight, along with some veggies and a salad!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (wzUl9)

That's what we're making! Roast chicken, bread stuffing, garlicky mash, yorkshire puds.

There's some carrots in the stuffing, it'll be fine, shut up Bobby.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (06Hmj)

24 @19

>>I see that once again, Cheetohs have not received their place in the sun. I refuse to accept the new pyramid for this reason.

Flamin' Hot Cheetos are like crack cocaine.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (XV/Pl)

25 It is telling that when the previous guidelines were published and people followed them, we went from a healthy population to one where half of all people are obese and more than half take at least one prescription medicine daily.

I have spent my life ignoring the guidelines and eating red meat, eggs, butter, and whole vegetables, and am in better physical shape than most people twenty years younger.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (0U5gm)

26 Cheese is way above butter? Steak is above salmon?

I love steak, but this is supposed to be a health guide, right? Some of these choices seem a bit arbitrary.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:36 PM (Yp6az)

27 Best shape I've ever been in I was basically just eating meat and vegetables...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (sKqQm)

28 Teichholz is a Hot MILF who probably looks good in a white lab coat and therefore all of what she says is presumptively true
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Link?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (Dv3i1)

29 Carbs taste good because they are a quick and easy source of calories - like candy. And in the old days when calories were in short supply getting your hands on something chock full of them was good for you.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (sKqQm)
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Plus your stomach yeast (candida) lives on that stuff, and they keep ordering it up through your stomach-brain connection.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (krQz2)

30 I appreciate the big slab of butter right in the middle. It's a crime what They did to butter. Inventing margarine was an even bigger crime.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (zYpTz)

31 Getting to the 1g of protein per target lb of body weight is hard to do while staying low on fat. Unless you eat a lot of steak and eggs and fish.

I get really tired of fish quick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Why eat low fat?

Posted by: MkY at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (q6tQZ)

32 Ms. Piper. Paging Ms. Piper. Ms. Piper, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (77rzZ)

33 16 So the old "guidelines" have been in place since 1980? I was a young adult then, and absorbed the notion that red meat, eggs, and butter were bad for you. It's taken me a while to get over that brainwashing.

I think I'll have some roasted chicken for dinner tonight, along with some veggies and a salad!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:35 PM (wzUl9)

Funny that... just about the same timeline as suddenly going back to Paper Grocery bags... from plastic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (mP0Kj)

34 Teichholz is a Hot MILF who probably looks good in a white lab coat and therefore all of what she says is presumptively true
___

Link?

https://is.gd/JlXhR1

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (Riz8t)

35 Everything is floating in soy, right?

Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (uQzkA)

36 Gotta say, getting sugar out of my daily diet is gonna be really tough.

I have the metabolism of a shrew, if I drop empty calories I’ll waste away.

Milkshakes … sweet rolls … brownies

Hell, I made it to 29, can’t a guy enjoy life 🤨

Posted by: browndog on the Maid of the Mist at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (ZWBVL)

37 You can get rid of your "sweet tooth" by starving the candida of sugar. The stomach yeast is your "sweet tooth".

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (krQz2)

38 It is almost comical...mankind went its whole history without having a problem with obesity.

Then the US government rolls out welfare and their carb heavy food permit and suddenly have the people in the country are obese because of uh...their genetics.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (sKqQm)

39 Whole Grains means Okra, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (pLaQB)

40 Eat the bread, get diabetes. Grape Nuts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (IGnEY)

41 Prioritize protein at every meal

Globohomo should be happy with this one.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (ExV1e)

42 That's what we're making! Roast chicken, bread stuffing, garlicky mash, yorkshire puds.

There's some carrots in the stuffing, it'll be fine, shut up Bobby.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026

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Yeah, and some potatoes, too! Not a lot, I know they're starchy, but you need some carbs for energy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (wzUl9)

43 I get really tired of fish quick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Fish Quic? Yuck.

It's Strawberry Quic or nothing.

Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

44 Whole milk, eggs, and butter!
Listen to the lefties scream.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (D0HYP)

45 Do I sit on my hands? Go for a walk? Finish eating my carrots and just watch where this goes?

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (Wmg4n)

46 I still have seen no satisfactory explanation as to why Japan gets strawberry Cheetos and we don't.

Posted by: Mark1971 at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (CNl8/)

47 Eat whatever you want and in moderation.

Your welcome!

Posted by: Zombie Ray Kroc, American Hero at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (GlDYx)

48 "The old one was upside down, created out of nothing besides what one Senator's quack doctor told him about nutrition, plus lots of lobbying by vegetarians who constantly pressure the government into lying about nutrition."

I don't know it it was lobbying by vegetarians so much as lobbying by powerful food industries. The old model with insane amounts of carbs and starchy foods always seemed to be the product of corporate lobbying. Who the fuck needs to eat that much bread??

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (iFTx/)

49 It's not upside-down. It's sideways. The correct top point is shown at the upper-left, and the correct bottom side is shown from upper-right to the bottom point.

Yum. 🤠

Posted by: mindful webworker - eat more beef at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (dESj/)

50 She looks like Kate Blanchett Mixed with Nigella Lawson.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (XV/Pl)

51 I've bought a nice yellow cake with chocolate frosting last night. Am I gonna die?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (pLaQB)

52 Gotta say, getting sugar out of my daily diet is gonna be really tough.

I have the metabolism of a shrew, if I drop empty calories I’ll waste away.
🤨
Posted by: browndog on the Maid of the Mist at January 07, 2026 04:38 PM (ZWBVL)
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The body burns fats a lot better than it does glucose, from what I've learned.

And fats will stick with you.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (krQz2)

53 Eating plants is for livestock.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (IGnEY)

54 The beige-ish background stands for pork.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (06Hmj)

55 Teichholz kind of looks like if someone hit Debbie Wasserman Schultz with the "not ugly" stick and really laid down the hickory...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (sKqQm)

56 Steaks, carrots, and gruel.
The diet of champions

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (/lPRQ)

57 I appreciate the big slab of butter right in the middle. It's a crime what They did to butter. Inventing margarine was an even bigger crime.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

In parts of Canada, margarine itself is a crime. They outlawed it years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (0U5gm)

58 I've bought a nice yellow cake with chocolate frosting last night. Am I gonna die?

Yes

Well

Eventually

Posted by: The actuary tables at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (sKqQm)

59 I see that once again, Cheetohs have not received their place in the sun. I refuse to accept the new pyramid for this reason.
Posted by: Archimedes

Crunchy Cheetohs for the win.

Posted by: Tuna at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (lJ0H4)

60 It's not upside-down. It's sideways. The correct top point is shown at the upper-left, and the correct bottom side is shown from upper-right to the bottom point.

Yum. 🤠
Posted by: mindful webworker - eat more beef at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (dESj/)
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Good point. Eggs, for example, is one of the most complete and balanced foods you can eat.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (krQz2)

61 44 Whole milk, eggs, and butter!
Listen to the lefties scream.
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Lard and Bacon Drippings are good for you. Cook with them.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (pLaQB)

62 I f you are eating meat, moderation isn't required.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (IGnEY)

63 What effect does the food pyramid have on the public? I imagine it's used to design school meals. Anything else? Are any Americans actually designing their meal plans around the food pyramid?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (Yp6az)

64 10 The best diet is what I've termed, Augmented Vegetarianism.

Lot's of meats and green and cruciferous vegetables, very few carbs.

Carb intake should be limited to grain alcohol and gummie bears.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 07, 2026 04:34 PM (XV/Pl)

But enough carbs from the whole grains...

It's now a right-sized pyramid. And I appreciate not bothering to put any junk on it b/c that needs to be avoided if we're talking "best" - treats are meant to be treats, not part of the dietary guidelines...I mean the guidelines are the ideal, not the actual, diet for folks...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (tOcjL)

65 Are cheetos one of those foods that are going to change color once RFK gets his food dye changes in place? I know Doritos are

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (sKqQm)

66 That Food Pyramid looks pretty much like my diet.

Minus the Bourbon and Gin. Both, technically in the grains I guess.

So, I figure I'm good.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (NwnyJ)

67 "I didn't see semen on that list."

-- Kamala Harris

"Or lead!"

-- Bitch shot by ICE

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (iFTx/)

68 > Am I gonna die?

We're all going to die.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (Yp6az)

69 But... But... all those proteins and animal fats might lead to an increase in Men's testosterone!

That's probably why the previous guidelines said not to.

Looking at pictures of this Teichholz woman will also increase your T levels.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (2ocoG)

70 RFKJr. Unveils What Leftwing Ninnies Are Calling an "Upside-Down" Food Pyramid

Stranger things have happened.

Posted by: Agribusiness is fake and gay like Will Byers at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (TbWk/)

71 Are any Americans actually designing their meal plans around the food pyramid?
Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (Yp6az)

It was a long game to get America to subconsciously accept platonic regular polygons.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (06Hmj)

72 I get really tired of fish quick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Fish Quic? Yuck.

It's Strawberry Quic or nothing.
Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (77rzZ)
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Bisquick > Fishquick

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (krQz2)

73 What effect does the food pyramid have on the public? I imagine it's used to design school meals. Anything else? Are any Americans actually designing their meal plans around the food pyramid?

People did change their diets around the time the older food pyramid was released but in fairness it would probably just another symptom and not the real cause

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (sKqQm)

74 So, now it's a food thread.

Oh, wait....

Posted by: one hour sober at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (Y1sOo)

75 "Teichholz is a Hot MILF who probably looks good in a white lab coat and therefore all of what she says is presumptively true. "

So who's the guy who sounds like he's in prison now?

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (iFTx/)

76 True confession. I eat a baked potato most every night at home. Skin included of course. Lots of butter and salt, sprinkled heavily with dried dill weed. Life is very good.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (pDt9x)

77 Beef Jerky is the go to health food.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (pLaQB)

78 68 > Am I gonna die?

We're all going to die.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (Yp6az)

Nobody gets out of life alive.

Posted by: Inexorable as taxes so party on at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (TbWk/)

79 Big Corn and Big Wheat say booo to this one.

Problem with carbs is most people get carbs from processed junk foods and mostly from sugar. But blaming carbs in general at least gets people to pay attention to their sugar intake. People didn't get obese eating plain rice or oatmeal.

Posted by: brak at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (jGJov)

80 I saw Stomach Yeast open for Bread on the "Baby I'm-a Want You" tour in '73

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (Dv3i1)

81 It was on this site that I learned about "rabbit starvation," also known as "protein poisoning."

It's when a person eats a meat that's very lean (e.g., that of wild rabbit), but does not consume enough carbs and fat along with it to be able to digest it properly. So you die of malnutrition even though you're eating lots of protein, because your body can't process it.

Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (77rzZ)

82 It's like they focus grouped the word "upside down", and put the base of the pyramid on top to invite everyone saying that.

Keep saying it. Because yes, the old one was indeed upside down.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (06Hmj)

83 45 Do I sit on my hands? Go for a walk? Finish eating my carrots and just watch where this goes?
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (Wmg4n)

Temperance, Piper. LOL

I'm proud to report I didn't get potato chips at the grocery store. Meats, cheeses, and vegetables. No sugar, no refined carbs. But most importantly, no tater chips.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (zYpTz)

84 Get a grip, ya feeble snowflakes. . . . . it's not an upside down pyramid. . . . . it's a healthy fat-laden pizza slice. Use your eyes.

Posted by: Despise Marxist Rat Bastards & Soyboy Sodomite Libs at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (5DfsO)

85 68 > Am I gonna die?

We're all going to die.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:42 PM (Yp6az)

Yes. Might as well go out well fed.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (pDt9x)

86 OT/ but Trump has weighed in on the MN ICE "shooting" saying the woman maliciously tried to run down the officer and he is in the hospital ...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (VE6XX)

87 Ag Subsidies are around 10 Billion Per Year

Ag spends roughly 200 Mil Per Year Lobbying Congress.

They are definitely gonna cry about inverting that Pyramid.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (ddphe)

88 Nutrition Science will always be an inexact...

...Science.

That's all I'm sayin'.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (DgMqy)

89 I Wiki'd Nina Teicholz. Quite attractive, facially. No body shot, though.

Posted by: one hour sober at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (Y1sOo)

90 I like Broccoli being in the center. Because broccoli is the king of vegetables. And not an effeminate Islam curious one like King Chuckles III

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (sKqQm)

91 77 Beef Jerky is the go to health food.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:43 PM (pLaQB)

And the preferred in-stall activity of Planet Fitness trannies.

Posted by: More repetition than full circle at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (TbWk/)

92 I still have seen no satisfactory explanation as to why Japan gets strawberry Cheetos and we don't.

The Japanese apple pie Kit Kats are diabolical. If they sold them here I'd look like Tim Walz.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (2ocoG)

93 Diabetes, brought to you by Archer Daniels Midland.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (IGnEY)

94 I appreciate the big slab of butter right in the middle. It's a crime what They did to butter. Inventing margarine was an even bigger crime.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

***
My mother always bought margarine instead of butter, probably because it was cheaper. I followed suit for many years. Even now, knowing that butter is NOT lethal, I sometimes hesitate in the store. ("That Parkay is soooo much cheaper than Land O'Lakes butter --"). But then I grab Walmart's version of the same butter and am happy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:45 PM (wzUl9)

95 OT/ but Trump has weighed in on the MN ICE "shooting" saying the woman maliciously tried to run down the officer and he is in the hospital ...
Posted by: It's me donna at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (VE6XX)
_____

As I said on the last thread, she clearly hit him and pretty hard. I'm not surprised he's in the hospital.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 07, 2026 04:45 PM (iFTx/)

96 90 I like Broccoli being in the center. Because broccoli is the king of vegetables. And not an effeminate Islam curious one like King Chuckles III
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (sKqQm)

Love broccoli and cauliflower...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 07, 2026 04:45 PM (VE6XX)

97 IIRC, Kellog was a big investor in the original food pyramid scheme.

And people normally give that as the explanation of it came up that we should have so much grain.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (krQz2)

98 I never cut back on butter. That shit's good. You can never have too much.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (pLaQB)

99 Must be an exhaust port on the food pyramid somewhere.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (IGnEY)

100 Beef cattle herd is at its lowest numbers in 75 years
Live cattle prices up 21% in the last year
It will take a minute.um of 2 years to begin any harvest of a larger herd

I the largest increases in retail beef are with the cheapest cuts, they are the cuts most in demand
This is not what I voted for. Did you?

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith...who puts the anal in anal sex at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (5WW1s)

101 Brooke Rollins can tell me what to eat anytime.

Posted by: wth at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (v0R5T)

102 83 45 Do I sit on my hands? Go for a walk? Finish eating my carrots and just watch where this goes?
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (Wmg4n)

Temperance, Piper. LOL

I'm proud to report I didn't get potato chips at the grocery store. Meats, cheeses, and vegetables. No sugar, no refined carbs. But most importantly, no tater chips.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (zYpTz)

But no kale chips. That's an act of self-loathing.

Posted by: It's silage for livestock, not for people at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (TbWk/)

103 Japan has an unhealthy yet fascinating relationship with sweets.

Like the Koreans and pizza.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (06Hmj)

104 Anyway I have been diagnosed as a Diabetic and its hereditary.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (DgMqy)

105 What effect does the food pyramid have on the public? I imagine it's used to design school meals. Anything else? Are any Americans actually designing their meal plans around the food pyramid?
Posted by: bonhomme

Following the Dietary Guidelines is required by any institution accepting federal funds: Schools, hospitals, rehab and nursing homes, the Army. And it is what is taught in what passes for "health class" today.

Posted by: Chuck C at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (D0HYP)

106
The Japanese apple pie Kit Kats are diabolical. If they sold them here I'd look like Tim Walz.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 07, 2026

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World Market has all sorts of KitKats from Asian countries. You have to look at the in-English ingredients list to find out what they are.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (wzUl9)

107 Butter can be a beverage.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (IGnEY)

108 I like Broccoli being in the center. Because broccoli is the king of vegetables. And not an effeminate Islam curious one like King Chuckles III

Pffffft. Asparagus is king, and lima beans are the heir apparent.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (Riz8t)

109 I like Broccoli being in the center. Because broccoli is the king of vegetables. And not an effeminate Islam curious one like King Chuckles III

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (sKqQm)
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That m----rf----r is not real.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (krQz2)

110 IIRC, Kellog was a big investor in the original food pyramid scheme.

And people normally give that as the explanation of it came up that we should have so much grain.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (krQz2)
_____

Yea, that and the yuge push to pig out on breakfast foods ... like the stuff Kellog made. Pure corruption.

Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (iFTx/)

111 Maria Elisa
@mariaelisasmith
Jan 5
I’m devastated by this illegal capture of an elected head of state by Trump.

I live in constant fear my beloved leader, Gustavo Petro, who lives at Cra 8 #7-26, La Candelaria, Bogotá, Colombia, will share the same fate. He’s usually home with his wife Verónica by 10pm.
Jan 5, 2026 · 7:12 PM UTC

Remember the Colombian despot is only in power because he got away with assassinating his primary opponent...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (sKqQm)

112 Lol
Grocery prices will come down on DAY ONE!

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith...who puts the anal in anal sex at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (5WW1s)

113 I do limit my intake of red meat to once per meal.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (0U5gm)

114 >>>My mother always bought margarine instead of butter, probably because it was cheaper.

an entire generation was taught margarine > butter. My mom is a boomer and all her recipes involve Crisco and/ or margarine

Posted by: brak at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (jGJov)

115 Anyone ever put butter in hot tea? It’s quite good.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (pDt9x)

116 smith smith prefers meat up his keister

Posted by: It's a part he likes to play at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (TbWk/)

117 Japan has an unhealthy yet fascinating relationship with sweets.

They also ingest a buttload of salt.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

118 > I eat a baked potato most every night at home. Skin included of course.

Potato skins supposedly have higher levels of glycoalkaloids and pesticide residue.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (Yp6az)

119 But then I grab Walmart's version of the same butter and am happy.

Outside of some high-end butters like some from Ireland, I can’t tell the difference between the various butters available at grocery stores.

Has there been any screeching yet about peanuts being on the pyramid?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (EXyHK)

120 RFK Jr. hasn't cured my Toenail Fungus yet, either.

Posted by: Agony of De Feet at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (oftw2)

121 What effect does the food pyramid have on the public? I imagine it's used to design school meals. Anything else? Are any Americans actually designing their meal plans around the food pyramid?
Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:41 PM (Yp6az)

IIRC, someone did a study about a decade ago and found that the public came pretty close. It wasn't a deliberate thing but it happened.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (ExV1e)

122 Can we get RFK to comment on why we only get a couple of flavors of Kit Kat when Japan has an almost infinite variety?

America can not afford to have a strategic Kit Kat gap with those pervy Japanese

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (sKqQm)

123 ace, the one thing I have learned is the new concept in medicine that all people are not the same, and there is a lot of variation between people of differing genetic backgrounds. Apparently this is an approach the VA is adopting in its own way.

What my Korean wife eats would just about kill me, and after living 50 years in the US with a US diet, she still has trouble with it.
RFKJr's problem here is that one diet proposed is not good for everyone in every situation, and unfortunately that is what is being demanded.
I suppose we could simplify things by restricting genetics, but that has other issues.

From listening to her presentations, Teichholz' number one issue is seed oils, if only because of the possibility of inflammation. Inflammation is bad juju for all sorts of reasons.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (rbvCR)

124 >>>Are any Americans actually designing their meal plans around the food pyramid?

it gets in your head as a child and stays there. I still remember being told 11 servings of bread haha

Posted by: brak at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (jGJov)

125 Anyone ever put butter in hot tea? It’s quite good.
Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (pDt9x)

I think that's a capital offense in the UK.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (06Hmj)

126 Nina Teichholz isn't satisfied

Harrumph

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (Kt19C)

127 Vegetables are what food eats.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (jc0TO)

128 >My mother always bought margarine instead of butter, probably because it was cheaper.

No. It is because she was lied to.

They will find the increase in Alzheimers and Dementia spiked with the Boomers and Gen X.

Animal Fats aren't optional.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 04:48 PM (ddphe)

129 To Pennsylvanians pretzels are at the top of the food chain

Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (Ia/+0)

130 also, because it is funny:

Maria Elisa
@mariaelisasmith
Jan 5
I’m devastated by this illegal capture of an elected head of state by Trump.

I live in constant fear my beloved leader, Gustavo Petro, who lives at Cra 8 #7-26, La Candelaria, Bogotá, Colombia, will share the same fate. He’s usually home with his wife Verónica by 10pm.
Jan 5, 2026 · 7:12 PM UTC

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (rbvCR)

131 I like Broccoli being in the center. Because broccoli is the king of vegetables. And not an effeminate Islam curious one like King Chuckles III
Posted by: 18-1

Artichokes are the king of veggies. It even looks like a crown.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (mlg/3)

132 They also ingest a buttload of salt.

My memory is that the dangers of salt were overblown.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (sKqQm)

133 Rarely eat breakfast. If I must it’s eggs over easy and bacon. Maybe buttered grits too.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (pDt9x)

134 My mother always bought margarine instead of butter, probably because it was cheaper.
*
an entire generation was taught margarine > butter. My mom is a boomer and all her recipes involve Crisco and/ or margarine
Posted by: brak at January 07, 2026

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I can understand that, but my mother (a) grew up on a Florida farm and (b) was born in 1916. Thus she was exposed to the real animal products from an early age, and in a time when people didn't get hit with quite so much advertising and "advice" from the Feds.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (wzUl9)

135 I'd shut up about prices if I had championed the President under whom inflation "wasn't happening" until they had to admit it had increased prices 20% over the course of the administration.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (krQz2)

136 So, wait. Chocolate shouldn't be 30% of my caloric intake?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (RIvkX)

137 Well, I see a few Sugar Crisp grains way at the very peak, so my diet is safe for now.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (bIWgk)

138 I like plants too much to eat them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (IGnEY)

139 ASS is drinking.

I'm here for it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (06Hmj)

140 Where's fentanyl on that triangle thingy? It's an important part of a woman-beater's diet.

Posted by: Zombie George Floyd at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (0e5Te)

141 Nina Teichholz isn't satisfied

Harrumph

Is she going to administer spankings?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (Riz8t)

142 118 > I eat a baked potato most every night at home. Skin included of course.

Potato skins supposedly have higher levels of glycoalkaloids and pesticide residue.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (Yp6az)

Well that would explain a lot. Bugs hate me anymore.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (pDt9x)

143 Okay, y’all. Let us start with one size does not fit all. How you eat if you need to lose weight is different than gaining is different than maintaining. How you eat if you sit on your tail all day because of a desk job is different than how you eat if you are a roughneck.

This food whatever is miles better than the old one, though I like the plate visual so much better because that is how we eat and it makes much more sense. No one over there at MAHA hq reached out to me. You can, in fact, eat too many fats. Just like you can eat too many lots of things. The person cited in Ace’s article is far more rational than most people on this subject, but even she has some bias here coming out. I know, I know crazy.

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 04:50 PM (Wmg4n)

144 RFK Jr. hasn't cured my Toenail Fungus yet, either.
Posted by: Agony of De Feet

Nor mine.

Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (77rzZ)

145 114 >>>My mother always bought margarine instead of butter, probably because it was cheaper.

an entire generation was taught margarine > butter. My mom is a boomer and all her recipes involve Crisco and/ or margarine
Posted by: brak at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (jGJov)

It came around because of war shortage IIRC but got promoted as healthier so people would be more accepting. Never mind that hydrogenated vegetable oil has shown to cause vessel inflammation and fuck with cholesterol. Eat what the government tells you because SCIENCE™!

Posted by: Brought to you by ConAgra at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (TbWk/)

146 Anyone ever put butter in hot tea? It’s quite good.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (pDt9x)

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I'll try that and report back.

Been drinking butter in my coffee now for 5+ years.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (krQz2)

147 I eat a baked potato most every night at home. Skin included of course.

Potato skins supposedly have higher levels of glycoalkaloids and pesticide residue.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026

***
Ah, for those tasty days of leftover DDT --!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (wzUl9)

148 Artichokes are too much work for the payoff.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (pDt9x)

149 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (5WW1s)

Since you voted for biden, you got exactly what you wanted.

quit being a dumbass.

Posted by: Ouch the Grouch at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (G+z4C)

150 Remember the Colombian despot is only in power because he got away with assassinating his primary opponent...
____

Almost happened here.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (Dv3i1)

151 The best thing the government could have done during COVID was tell people to take Vit D if they are deficient (and most are), lose any extra weight, and start exercising regularly.

And of course it did none of those things.

Though I remember Fauci saying he took 10K of Vit D a day which is...not a great idea for most people.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (sKqQm)

152 I'm proud to report I didn't get potato chips at the grocery store. Meats, cheeses, and vegetables. No sugar, no refined carbs. But most importantly, no tater chips.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 04:44 PM (zYpTz)

But no kale chips. That's an act of self-loathing.
Posted by: It's silage for livestock, not for people at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (TbWk/)

That's b/c you make your own kale chips - packaged kale chips are disgusting...

WAY easier to make homemade kale chips vs homemade potato chips...and your attempts taste better for the former, but not the latter...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (tOcjL)

153 Man, Big Food must really hate this -- where are the snacks? the fizzy drinks? the fast food? the prepared and frozen food?

How will people get their daily allowance of preservatives, additives, colorants, emulsifiers, and flavorings?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (bIWgk)

154 Can we get RFK to comment on why we only get a couple of flavors of Kit Kat when Japan has an almost infinite variety?

America can not afford to have a strategic Kit Kat gap with those pervy Japanese
Posted by: 18-1
......

I don't see Donettes anywhere on that pyramid either.

Posted by: wth at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (v0R5T)

155 But no kale chips. That's an act of self-loathing.
Posted by: It's silage for livestock, not for people at January 07, 2026 04:46 PM (TbWk/)

Ha! I'm not actually opposed to kale chips, but they just don't have enough body. Too much like, oh, salted paper. It doesn't satisfy the crunch craving.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (zYpTz)

156 >>You can, in fact, eat too many fats.

You can drink enough water to kill yourself, too.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (ddphe)

157 Broccoli fillets and steak up top, big glass of milk and a couple of eggs. mmm

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (xvXg6)

158
Hilarious.

Even when ASS tries to sound reasonable,

he still sounds stupid.

We need better quality trolls.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (iJfKG)

159 They also ingest a buttload of salt.

My memory is that the dangers of salt were overblown.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (sKqQm)
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Still though, keep it out of your butt.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:52 PM (krQz2)

160 Artichokes are the king of veggies. It even looks like a crown.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

It might choke Artie, but it ain't gonna choke Stymie!

Posted by: Matthew "Stymie" Beard at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (oftw2)

161 Has anyone ever used the governments food pyramid to decide their diet? I already don’t trust anything they say, and I’m not starting now. I agree this is a good first step, but the importance of protein is still be undersold.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (vSl8l)

162 Man, Big Food must really hate this -- where are the snacks? the fizzy drinks? the fast food? the prepared and frozen food?

Don't worry. You'll get all of those with food stamps.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (Riz8t)

163 No Reese Poofs and Little Debbies?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (IGnEY)

164 Limit alcohol consumption for better overall health

I guess we're excluding mental health. Because sweet, merciful gin is about the only thing that keeps me from embarking on my chargrilled longpig diet some days.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (u1qVW)

165 This is how I eat. Humans have evolved for thousands of years to eat meat. It only makes sense unless you are trying to kill off a good portion of the voter base.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (xvV+O)

166
RFKJr. Unveils What Leftwing Ninnies Are Calling an "Upside-Down" Food Pyramid
—Ace

============

I don't see any Dr. Pepper and brownies!

Posted by: SNAP Mom of 6 at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (Uo+RY)

167 > My memory is that the dangers of salt were overblown.

Salt is bad for the 10% or so of the population who have bodies that don't self regulate salt effectively. For everyone else, you just naturally crave less salty food when you have had too much. Your body will also signal you to drink more liquids and you excrete the excess salt.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (Yp6az)

168 RFKJr. Unveils What Leftwing Ninnies Are Calling an "Upside-Down" Food Pyramid

It's an upside-down pyramid for a reason, Leftists, and you know exactly what that reason is.

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (GQhg+)

169 Man, Big Food must really hate this -- where are the snacks? the fizzy drinks? the fast food? the prepared and frozen food?

Watching the left respond to this by echoing Mondelez that junk food is good for you is going to be hillarious.

I'm old enough to remember when a common leftist talking point was Americans are fat and stupid because they eat chips and McDs all the time...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (sKqQm)

170 Gramps wouldn't drink store bought milk.
Said it tasted like water.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (xvXg6)

171 Do I sit on my hands? Go for a walk? Finish eating my carrots and just watch where this goes?
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (Wmg4n)

It goes into the ditch, Piper. Then we set it on fire and fight over the extinguisher.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (rbvCR)

172 My memory is that the dangers of salt were overblown.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:49 PM (sKqQm)

IIRC, subsequent studies found that there is some group of black men for who salt is really, really bad for their blood pressure and for everyone else it's no big deal.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (ExV1e)

173 I was thinking about Trump and Rubio redirecting Venezuela's oil money but allowing them to produce and sell. In terms of controlling the country, it's brilliant - and it's also why they need Delcy Rodriguez in charge of doling out what she's given.
Before this money (along with the drug money) was handed out to all of the competing groups in Venezuela; not just the government, but the Generals individually, the Army Collectively, the Security Police, the Cartels, the above ground government. Now it is all going to go thought Rodriguez, and if any of them don't play ball with her, she can cut them off on her own say so.
Why will she go along with this? Because this now makes her more powerful (for now) than anyone else in Venezuela, including some old rivals, like the head of the militia's and the generals. So now Rubio doesn't really have to control the entire country, he just has to keep Delcy Rodriguez knowing that her position depends on her not fucking up too much.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (uWKK8)

174 165 This is how I eat. Humans have evolved for thousands of years to eat meat. It only makes sense unless you are trying to kill off a good portion of the voter base.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 04:53 PM (xvV+O)

They want us undernourished, weak and stupid. Makes it easier to keep us subdued. See e.g. North Korea

Posted by: And Big Mike's school starvation plan at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (TbWk/)

175
Been drinking butter in my coffee now for 5+ years.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (krQz2)

Do you blend it?

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (S6amQ)

176 We will also find, in the future, that cholesterol is as accurate and predictive as BMI.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (ddphe)

177 It came around because of war shortage IIRC but got promoted as healthier so people would be more accepting. Never mind that hydrogenated vegetable oil has shown to cause vessel inflammation and fuck with cholesterol. Eat what the government tells you because SCIENCE™!
Posted by: Brought to you by ConAgra at January 07, 2026

***
That's a good point. My mother was in her twenties during WWII, living here (Canadian-born, naturalized citizen), and would have been affected by shortages and wartime govt. "advice."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (wzUl9)

178 As far as what the proper human diet is supposed to be, our dentition provides the answer. We are omnivores, by design.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (pDt9x)

179 I bought two bags of potato chips over the holidays. Still had them the last day of the season.

Ate less than a third of a bag with some pretty clean sour cream onion dip, got up and threw the bags away.

I don't know. Chips just aren't getting it for me anymore.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (krQz2)

180 For most of history one of the signs of how high your status was in your society was how much meat you got to eat.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (sKqQm)

181 Alcohol and seed oils kill your liver. Eliminate one. They learned that in 1989.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (IGnEY)

182 I've bought a nice yellow cake with chocolate frosting last night. Am I gonna die?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (pLaQB)

Yes. But not from cake.

It will only horribly disfigure you. Aren't you relieved to know that?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (rbvCR)

183 Though I remember Fauci saying he took 10K of Vit D a day which is...not a great idea for most people.
Posted by: 18-1

-------------

Dr. John Campbell did a video a couple months back revealing an error in the way the USRDA for Vitamin D was calculated -- there is a clear error that greatly under estimates the amount required. I think it moved from 600IU to 9,000IU if you do the math correctly. Check it out. Anecdotally, every time I see someone doing blood tests to find right dosage it ends up being closer to 9,000IU

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (bIWgk)

184 Limit alcohol consumption for better overall health

I guess we're excluding mental health. Because sweet, merciful gin is about the only thing that keeps me from embarking on my chargrilled longpig diet some days.

This is an excellent point, but I'm not sure how you would quantify the effect. Many people would pop a gasket from the daily grind were it not for the prospect of a cocktail or wine before dinner, to say nothing of its use as a social lubricant.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (Riz8t)

185 Ain't nobody in this country undernourished

Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (uQzkA)

186 RFK's upside down pyramid > Stranger Things upside down in Season 5

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (sKqQm)

187 Well, fish and broccoli are on my menu tonight.

And a Martini or three, with olives. I think I'm good.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (NwnyJ)

188 So I can satisfy all of these requirements with a decent sub sandwich.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (6ydKt)

189 Times past soda water (pop) was a treat not a water supplement.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (xvXg6)

190 So the supreme pizza would be smack in the middle of diagram.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (jc0TO)

191 170 Gramps wouldn't drink store bought milk.
Said it tasted like water.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM

One of my friends had a dairy and they drank raw milk and had fresh cream and homemade butter. No more dairies here though, I'd get milk from them if they still had the cows and I hear goats milk in coffee is really good.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (S6amQ)

192 Although they are both routinely demonized, sugar (glucose) and salt (sodium) are both essential nutrients. Too little of either one, and you die.

People too easily forget this.

Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (77rzZ)

193 My BP responds to dietary sodium intake very quickly. When I go out to eat I know I'll be up 10 pts by morning.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (RIvkX)

194 Alcohol and seed oils kill your liver. Eliminate one.

Is this a trick question?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

195 As far as what the proper human diet is supposed to be, our dentition provides the answer. We are omnivores, by design.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
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We're still not getting many nutrients through plant cell walls.

This is why the old world used to boil them to mush.

"Fresh vegetables" are practically going to your colon.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (krQz2)

196 Ah, for those tasty days of leftover DDT --!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

My parents cared enough to put up the Mickey Mouse wallpaper impregnated with DDT in my nursery. Only reason I am still alive and kickin'.

Posted by: The Thing With Two Heads at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (oftw2)

197 You don't need sugar.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (IGnEY)

198 188 So I can satisfy all of these requirements with a decent sub sandwich.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (6ydKt)

Meatlover Pizza, with onions and Pineapple.

(yeah, I know... HERASY!)

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (mP0Kj)

199 Dr. John Campbell did a video a couple months back revealing an error in the way the USRDA for Vitamin D was calculated -- there is a clear error that greatly under estimates the amount required. I think it moved from 600IU to 9,000IU if you do the math correctly. Check it out. Anecdotally, every time I see someone doing blood tests to find right dosage it ends up being closer to 9,000IU

I don't spend a lot of time in doors so I started taking 2K of Vit D and while it helped with some things like overall immune response there were some side effects.

I dropped back down to 1K and haven't seen any negative effects.

My GF has started telling me I need to take K2 as well but I haven't had a chance to look into it

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (sKqQm)

200 195 As far as what the proper human diet is supposed to be, our dentition provides the answer. We are omnivores, by design.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (pDt9x)
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We're still not getting many nutrients through plant cell walls.

This is why the old world used to boil them to mush.

"Fresh vegetables" are practically going to your colon.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (krQz2)

Colon Blow.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (pDt9x)

201 I hate liars.

Skim and low fat milk are water lying that they are milk. I only drink whole milk.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (xvV+O)

202 I remember when a burger platter was the size a Buick hubcap.

Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (o2ZRX)

203 For most of history one of the signs of how high your status was in your society was how much meat you got to eat.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 04:55 PM (sKqQm)

Our meat words are Norman and our animal words are Aenglisc, right?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (06Hmj)

204 185 Ain't nobody in this country undernourished
Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (uQzkA)

There's no "food insecurity" when our poorest people are 50+ pounds overweight and childhood obesity is at an all time high. So the lying cocksuckers lying about "food deserts" can go pound sand.

Posted by: And their puds at Planet Fitness at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (TbWk/)

205 Been drinking butter in my coffee now for 5+ years.
Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 04:51 PM (krQz2)

I admire your commitment to drinking a horrible tasting concoction over a lengthy period of years.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (iJfKG)

206
This is an excellent point, but I'm not sure how you would quantify the effect. Many people would pop a gasket from the daily grind were it not for the prospect of a cocktail or wine before dinner, to say nothing of its use as a social lubricant.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 07, 2026 04:56

As I get older I feel terrible after having more than two drinks and it makes me want to eat garbage the next day. It also gives me insomnia in the middle of the night.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (S6amQ)

207 >>"Fresh vegetables" are practically going to your colon.

The fiber is what your gut bacteria rely on to flourish.

Almost as if it was by design...

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (ddphe)

208 Times past soda water (pop) was a treat not a water supplement.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026

***
I remember how astonished I was to find vending machines with Cokes and snacks at my high school. Even then, I guess, such things were being pushed on us.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (wzUl9)

209 I always use heavy cream in my coffee.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (pDt9x)

210 I suppose the fact that she has a Ph.D. in nutrition focused on evidence-based nutrition policy from the University of Reading means she is a DEI crank.

CHARLATANS! LARD IS EVIL

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (rbvCR)

211 @FoxNews
·
1h
DEM GOV. TIM WALZ: "I have a very simple message: We do not need any further help from the federal government."

"To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem: You've done enough."

"I've issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed, if necessary."

"Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight. We will not take the bait." | @TheStoryFNC

Posted by: Don Black at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (ZxPkt)

212 207 >>"Fresh vegetables" are practically going to your colon.

The fiber is what your gut bacteria rely on to flourish.

Almost as if it was by design...
Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (ddphe)

Funny, that.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (pDt9x)

213 They want us undernourished, weak and stupid. Makes it easier to keep us subdued. See e.g. North Korea
Posted by: And Big Mike's school starvation plan at January 07, 2026 04:54 PM (TbWk/)

Don't forget about us!

Posted by: Oxygen-starved mask wearers at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (0BrN/)

214 Ain't nobody in this country undernourished
Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2026 04:56 PM (uQzkA)

Actually, I'd bet that a lot of people in this country are undernourished. Not underfed, by any means, but certainly undernourished.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (ExV1e)

215 Alcohol and seed oils kill your liver. Eliminate one. They learned that in 1989.
Posted by: Boss Moss

They learned about seed oils in 1912, the year after Crisco came out.

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (GQhg+)

216 10% is very hard to achieve, and it is not how I eat personally. The number is far closer to 25-30%. You do need healthy carbs. They fuel your body, they support your gut biome, they provide energy. It is very silly to consider a serving of brown rice the equivalent of a handful of gummy bears. You also need protein- you should not try to survive on bread, even wheat bread, alone.

Americans are chubby by and large because they sit around all day. They aren’t outdoors, they aren’t doing manual labor, they aren’t riding bikes until the street lights turn on. It is food, of course, too. But you are not going to become an Adonis merely by not using seed oils. Bad news bears, right? Also, you can be a great weight and have zero muscle tone, this isn’t exactly a great goal. It’s a very big picture.

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (Wmg4n)

217 CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (S6amQ)

Years ago, I bought eggs and grains from an Amish woman who lived out in the back of beyond. I also bought raw milk from her to make my own yogurt--it was phenomenal!

Several months later, she sadly told me she wasn't allowed to sell me raw milk anymore because of some regulation. I was willing to sign a liability waiver!

I'm all for agencies making the public aware of risks, but let us make our own deccisions.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (USyCi)

218 >>I always use heavy cream in my coffee.

I go with that in the morning coffee and 1/2 n 1/2 once I start eating for the day.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:01 PM (ddphe)

219 Nina Teichholz is no Ben Shapiro's sister.

Ashknazi breasts activate!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:01 PM (wBaIH)

220 Tufts University says to eat your Reeses Poofs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:01 PM (IGnEY)

221 Meat, eggs and whole milk. I'm perfectly fine with that.

My diet is now healthy again. Governmentally speaking.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 07, 2026 05:01 PM (n5tGW)

222 Limit alcohol consumption for better overall health

SHUT YOUR FILTHY WHORE MOUTH!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2026 05:01 PM (n9ltV)

223 Although they are both routinely demonized, sugar (glucose) and salt (sodium) are both essential nutrients. Too little of either one, and you die.

People too easily forget this.
Posted by: Bulg at January 07, 2026 04:57 PM (77rzZ)

Supposedly, you body will manufacture glucose if you don't eat it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:02 PM (ExV1e)

224 I hate liars.

Skim and low fat milk are water lying that they are milk. I only drink whole milk.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 04:58 PM (xvV+O)
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Milk still has a bunch of sugar for growing calves.

Take a protein shaker, put in heavy cream and water and shake until blended.

However, these days, I put trace minerals in all my bottle-fulls of water. I get that thick, somewhat-mineral taste of milk without the mucus.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:02 PM (krQz2)

225 If I was a brainless member of a bovine herd, and a rancher was tossing bales of feed at me, I might have concerns about dietary guidelines and what not, but until we get there, I’m going to gorge on what I like. BOOM!

Feed me! I have money.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 07, 2026 05:02 PM (Ouxay)

226 "I've issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed, if necessary."

Looks like Timpon has decided on what his next grift will be.

"Tonight on MSNBC an interview with political prisoner Tim Walz"

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:02 PM (sKqQm)

227 Better absorption of vit d and k2 when taken at meal time if fats present; these are fat soluble vits.

Tonights' meal is ground ribeye burgers with air fried fries and whole milk.

Posted by: Kingsman at January 07, 2026 05:03 PM (ehY6c)

228 I remember how astonished I was to find vending machines with Cokes and snacks at my high school. Even then, I guess, such things were being pushed on us.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

Robert Schneider ran for 8th grade Student Organization on a platform of cheerleaders and soda machines. We got neither. Soured me on politics.

Posted by: Frustrated, Along With TJM at January 07, 2026 05:03 PM (oftw2)

229 General Walz mobilizing his army.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 05:03 PM (pDt9x)

230 If I was a brainless member of a bovine herd, and a rancher was tossing bales of feed at me, I might have concerns about dietary guidelines and what not, but until we get there, I’m going to gorge on what I like. BOOM!

Obligatory https://tinyurl.com/ya5u7rux

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:03 PM (sKqQm)

231 188 So I can satisfy all of these requirements with a decent sub sandwich.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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The bread on a Sub is classified as a pastry.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:04 PM (xvXg6)

232 I always use heavy cream in my coffee.
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I used to love heavy cream in my coffee.

But I started trying butter.

Now, when I put even a spot of cream in my coffee I can taste the grit of the coffee.

I don't know, but it seems to me that in comparison cream blunts the taste of coffee, but butter gives you that creaminess and doesn't blunt the flavor.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:04 PM (krQz2)

233 "I've issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed, if necessary."

"Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight. We will not take the bait." | @TheStoryFNC
Posted by: Don Black

Walz is probably going to be indicted the way things are going. What he says is not likely to make much difference anymore.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:04 PM (WDjG6)

234 Mmm ... mucus.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 05:04 PM (jc0TO)

235 Pitz Gazette to close. Unions claim another scalp.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (mlg/3)

236 Trump on Truth Social

I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!

PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (WC9t6)

237 229 General Walz mobilizing his army.
Posted by: tubal
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Just like that other hero of the Democrats, Orval Faubus.

It'll come out the same way.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (WDjG6)

238 I was looking at my class pictures when I was in grade school in the 1960s, not a single fat kid in any of the six pictures that I have. We ate high fat foods and pretty much fried everything in lard. Diabetes back then was unheard of except for that one unlucky kid who generally didn't make it to adulthood.

We rode our bikes, swam and walked everywhere we needed to go pretty much. Now half of our kids are pre diabetic, grossly overweight and have a ton of other health issues that were unheard of 50-60 years ago.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (0N4FZ)

239 Why eat low fat?
Posted by: MkY at January 07, 2026 04:37 PM (q6tQZ)

That's what I am saying. It is difficult to do both (high protein and low fat.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (zZu0s)

240 The number is far closer to 25-30%. You do need healthy carbs

Did you notice the massive fruit section of the pyramid? Fair warning, it takes a lot of fruit to supply 30%. I'm eating about 3 lbs per day.

Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (GQhg+)

241 Where is the Impossivle Beef?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (IGnEY)

242 >>>Several months later, she sadly told me she wasn't allowed to sell me raw milk anymore because of some regulation. I was willing to sign a liability waiver!

I'm all for agencies making the public aware of risks, but let us make our own deccisions.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (USyCi)
*****
Where I live in NC, raw milk is sold with a "not for human consumption" label. Heh, yeah but if I drive to SC no labels on raw milk. I like raw milk and buy it when I can find it.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (TB/rm)

243
I'm all for agencies making the public aware of risks, but let us make our own deccisions.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (USyCi)

I agree with you and I'm sorry the government screwed up your source for fresh milk.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (S6amQ)

244 This is how I eat. Humans have evolved for thousands of years to eat meat. It only makes sense unless you are trying to kill off a good portion of the voter base.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
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"One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables"

Posted by: Romans 14:2 at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (XeU6L)

245 Tonights meal here is a thick ribeye and mashed taters. Veggies will be an afterthought.

Posted by: He-Man Woman Haters Club at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (oftw2)

246 Does this mean steak is going to get more expensive? Cause it sounds like steak is going to get more expensive.

Posted by: Clay at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (oOYKt)

247 The "food pyramid" was introduced to support grain farmers and sell excess stocks.

BTW, compare the "food pyramid" with the recommendations in this bulletin from 1930 (link goes to the State Library of Oregon Digital Collection): https://is.gd/7yisFV

Posted by: Bert G at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (VARTN)

248 I've issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed, if necessary."

"Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight. We will not take the bait." | @TheStoryFNC
Posted by: Don Black

Walz is probably going to be indicted the way things are going. What he says is not likely to make much difference anymore.
Posted by: whig

Go ahead Walz. Trump nationalizes them and sends them to fucking Samoa.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (WC9t6)

249 Looks like Timpon has decided on what his next grift will be.

"Tonight on MSNBC an interview with political prisoner Tim Walz"
Posted by: 18-1

Timmy is a bit dense, once the Insurrection Act is posted, it is martial law, military tribunals, etc. Look forward to the new era of Reconstruction where the Northern and Western states are Reconstructed.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (WDjG6)

250 I mostly use olive oil and butter to cook. But i eat a lot of flax seeds. Hasn't really been an issue, and my blood work is immaculate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (06Hmj)

251 The amount of carbs you need is 0.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (IGnEY)

252 If you want to lose weight, it will be calories in, calories out. You need a deficit (a healthy deficit, not a crazy one). You can lose weight and eat your calories in donuts. You will be hungry. Your hair will be brittle and dull. You will feel like garbage, you will crave other food because your body tells you what it needs if you listen. But you can. OR you can chose to eat real food, lots of veggies, good proteins, fats and healthy carbs other than what you get from fruits and veggies and you will be doing much better. Even better than that, move your body in addition to a lifestyle change.

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (Wmg4n)

253 244 This is how I eat. Humans have evolved for thousands of years to eat meat. It only makes sense unless you are trying to kill off a good portion of the voter base.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
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"One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables"
Posted by: Romans 14:2 at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (XeU6L)

Paul was known to love a nice grilled pork steak. He talks about it in 2 Timothy.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (pDt9x)

254 You do need healthy carbs.

I'm not going to argue with you because arguing about nutrition here is pointless but there is a LOT of evidence - as in research - which shows that you do not need carbs. At all.

There are thousands of people who chronicle their carnivore lifestyle, even the more restrictive beef-only carnivore, and the health improvements they've had as a result.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (ExV1e)

255 Don't you need raw milk for your artisanal cheese craft?

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (jc0TO)

256 Trump just came out with a pretty good statement on the shooting.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (uWKK8)

257 Ripped from the headlines 2030-

Oat Bran And Vegetables-The Silent Killer

Posted by: Hooterville World Guardian at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (oftw2)

258 251 The amount of carbs you need is 0.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026

Absolutely, 100% not true.

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:08 PM (Wmg4n)

259 Go ahead Walz. Trump nationalizes them and sends them to fucking Samoa.
Posted by: rickb223
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Trump is simply gathering all this information if and when he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act. Same reason he withdrew the troops from Portland, LA, etc. If they continue to act up, more grist for the Insurrection Act invocation.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:08 PM (WDjG6)

260 Where is the Impossivle Beef?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (IGnEY)
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It says food pyramid.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:08 PM (krQz2)

261 It also gives me insomnia in the middle of the night.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Insomnia is also a problem for me if I have a drink or two. This is sad for I dearly love the occasional Manhattan or Old Fashion.

Posted by: Tuna at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (lJ0H4)

262
I don't spend a lot of time in doors.....
Posted by: 18-1

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{mounts hobby horse}

Even if you spend time out of doors, you get no UVB unless sun is above 35 or 40 degrees in sky. This never happens in Fall or Winter for top 2/3 of country. And even then, it only happens around noon.

During Spring and Summer, the sun spends more time high enough for the UVB to reach the ground, and we wear less clothing, so people need less supplement but during Fall and Winter I think almost everyone does.

As for how much, I am just saying hat some is better than none. I think the effects are subtle and not obvious -- maybe you are more likely to get flu, or maybe long term chronic effects after years of having too little. It seems to be a universal good for many conditions but very hard to determine since sick people often have low levels, but we don't know direction of causality.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (bIWgk)

263 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (uWKK

Is there a.way to access it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (Nx5jP)

264 It's gotta be hard to be a rigidly observant Jain.

No onions or garlic?

No food at all where you have to kill the entire organism to eat it?

Da hell you people eat, then, leaves and hair?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (06Hmj)

265 Eat unprocessed food that tastes good to you.

Our needs are all slightly different. Key is the UNPROCESSED part... because they have manipulated some foods to mimic tastes of food our body wants, without the parts of that food our body needs.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (mP0Kj)

266 I'm all for agencies making the public aware of risks, but let us make our own deccisions.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (USyCi)
===

You assume that the "agencies" are doing good. I think over the last 70 years those "agencies" have demonstrated that they are not doing good. But hey I'm only looking at the results and not their super "altruistic" motivations.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (xvV+O)

267 General Walz mobilizing his free shit army.
Posted by: tubal

Posted by: wth at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (v0R5T)

268 You go into Ketosis and burn fat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (IGnEY)

269 How is mobilizing the National Guard to obstruct ICE agents in the lawful execution of their duties not insurrection?

Posted by: Send them all to Florence ADX at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (TbWk/)

270 I was looking at my class pictures when I was in grade school in the 1960s, not a single fat kid in any of the six pictures that I have. We ate high fat foods and pretty much fried everything in lard. Diabetes back then was unheard of except for that one unlucky kid who generally didn't make it to adulthood.

You can see this on shorpy as well. Before the 80s you can't find an overweight kid. Then as time goes on they become more and more common.

One of the many things that the last season of stranger things gets wrong is having a morbidly obese kid in 1987...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (sKqQm)

271 Now U.S. Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., has confirmed that members of Congress “just moved to subpoena Rep. Ilhan Omar and her brother/husband’s immigration records in the Oversight Committee.”

Above is stolen from the internet.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (n5tGW)

272 All those crazy Democrats busy over the weekend defending Maduro can now shift to defending processed sugars.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (MIY8C)

273 As I get older I feel terrible after having more than two drinks and it makes me want to eat garbage the next day. It also gives me insomnia in the middle of the night.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 04:59 PM (S6amQ)

Same. One glass of wine, I feel nice. Two, and I feel nauseous when I go to bed, and dehydrated and hungover when I get up. So, mostly just have a glass on weekend evenings, and try not to give in to the second pour.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (zYpTz)

274 >>there is a LOT of evidence - as in research - which shows that you do not need carbs. At all.

Not reliable evidence. Carbs are needed for essential biologic function.
Not the amounts we consume...but, there are processes that require carbs.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (ddphe)

275 General Walz mobilizing his army.
Posted by: tubal
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It's all about logistics. Critical supplies of hair dye, nose rings, ear guages, and tampons must be assured. Oh, and printed signs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (XeU6L)

276 Unless Timmy wants to go all 1861, National Guard units are subject to Federal Military Authority. He sounds like he doesn't realize that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (uWKK8)

277 269 How is mobilizing the National Guard to obstruct ICE agents in the lawful execution of their duties not insurrection?
Posted by: Send them all to Florence ADX at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (TbWk/)

Well, it is. I imagine some hair splitters may disagree, but whatever.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (pDt9x)

278 If a couple of drinks gives you insomnia, I recommend six.

Posted by: wth at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

279 Latest, Fireaid for the victims of CA wildfires in the Palisade,
"Early reports suggested that was hardly the case. Last September, The New York Post revealed that of the $100 million raised by musicians such as Joni Mitchell, Lady Gaga, John Mayer, Billie Joe Armstrong and more, some of the funds went to nonprofits with very little connection to fire safety or reparations.

The Buddhist Tzu Chi Foundation
Podcasters discussing the wildfires
Sanitizing pre-schools
NAACP Pasadena
My Tribe Rise
The CA Native Vote Project
The Los Angeles Black Worker Center
Now, Rep. Jim Jordan has released a scathing update on the FireAid money matter.

The Ohio Republican’s assessment confirms that some of the money in question didn’t go directly to the victims of last year’s Palisades fire as promised."

Dems are a professional crime syndicate.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (WDjG6)

280 Twinkies are still good to go....yes?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (iMotb)

281 If you want to lose weight, it will be calories in, calories out.

This has been proven to be false in dozens of studies.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (ExV1e)

282 >>>The amount of carbs you need is 0.
Posted by: Boss Moss

>Unless you’re Irish and there’s no snake meat to be had.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (Ouxay)

283 >>Eat unprocessed food that tastes good to you.

Simple, true and effective dietary advice.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (ddphe)

284 240 The number is far closer to 25-30%. You do need healthy carbs

Did you notice the massive fruit section of the pyramid? Fair warning, it takes a lot of fruit to supply 30%. I'm eating about 3 lbs per day.
Posted by: t-bird at January 07, 2026 05:05 PM (GQhg+)

That is also where your body's needed sugars should come from...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (tOcjL)

285 Timmeh was not an officer, right? So he can't be recalled to service.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 05:11 PM (jc0TO)

286 Your genetics have alot to do with your overall health too.

I smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day, drink wine every night and have seen a doctor twice in my life. Once for stitches in my lip and once when I had a laceration from being kicked by a horse. At 75 I take no medications.

I cook and eat good food not processed junk.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sDNVV)

287 Absolutely, 100% not true.
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:08 PM (Wmg4n)

Name the essential carbohydrate.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (ExV1e)

288 I'm not going to argue with you because arguing about nutrition here is pointless but there is a LOT of evidence - as in research - which shows that you do not need carbs. At all.

If you go back 10K years you'll find people eating meat, fruit, and vegetables but almost no carbs.

I would assume then we could still live easily with none...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sKqQm)

289 277 269 How is mobilizing the National Guard to obstruct ICE agents in the lawful execution of their duties not insurrection?
Posted by: Send them all to Florence ADX at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (TbWk/)

Well, it is. I imagine some hair splitters may disagree, but whatever.
Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (pDt9x)

Even the Supreme Court has said that Lower Courts get to over ride the Commander in Chiefs authority with the National Guard.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (mP0Kj)

290 276 Unless Timmy wants to go all 1861, National Guard units are subject to Federal Military Authority. He sounds like he doesn't realize that.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Hell, since the Natl Guard establishing act in the early 1900's, President has even more authority. Also Ike federalized the Arkansas National Guard to remove the governor's authority (Orval Faubus) that was using them to keep black students out of Little Rock Central High School.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (WDjG6)

291 I was asking why low fat.
A high fat diet is just fine.
Wait...you're not listening to your doctor, are you?

Hah

Posted by: MkY at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (q6tQZ)

292 287 Absolutely, 100% not true.
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:08 PM (Wmg4n)

Name the essential carbohydrate.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (ExV1e)

Little Debbie Nutty Bars.

Posted by: tubal at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (pDt9x)

293
No food at all where you have to kill the entire organism to eat it?

Da hell you people eat, then, leaves and hair?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (06Hmj)

Breatharians have entered the chat.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (S6amQ)

294 In parts of Canada, margarine itself is a crime. They outlawed it years ago.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 07, 2026 04:40 PM (0U5gm)

For a period of years, colored margarine was illegal, thanks to the dairy lobby. So you got a brick of white margarine, and a little packet of yellow dye to mix with it, at the expense of some effort. But that went away early in my childhood.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (8zz6B)

295 "Name the essential carbohydrate."

Beer

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (iMotb)

296 Same. One glass of wine, I feel nice. Two, and I feel nauseous when I go to bed, and dehydrated and hungover when I get up.
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One snort of Ruby Port really rings the bell
Then a glass of Muscatel sets my head up well
Then this sweetest bottle of cheapest sherry wine
I say goodbye to my mind

Posted by: The Youngbloods, 'Wine Song' at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (XeU6L)

297 Unless Timmy wants to go all 1861, National Guard units are subject to Federal Military Authority. He sounds like he doesn't realize that.
Posted by: Tom Servo

That's what I said. Trump nationalizes the Mn Nat Guard and sends them to American Samoa.

Your move Timmy.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (WC9t6)

298 Stress wars make those drinks tasty. And women.

Posted by: thug dolphin at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (EyfuW)

299 I can't stand Nancy Mace, but i do still love it when her grandstanding megalomania winds up working in our favor.

Seriously, she's like a political berserker, if not, unfortunately, literally.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (06Hmj)

300 If you want to lose weight, it will be calories in, calories out.

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:07 PM (Wmg4n)
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Sorry, Piper. I know I'm sorta in your wheelhouse. But "Calories In, Calories Out" ignores how substances interact with the body other than being burned.

A fatty liver can be caused by a too many "calorie" lifestyle, but a backed-up and the resulting Insulin Resistance does not make it about a balance of calories. Most people don't lose because of insulin resistance--even with exercise.

And diet does a whole lot more to un-burden a liver than a treadmill could ever do.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (krQz2)

301 I'll say this for Trump if by this summer:

Tim Walz is in prison
Ilhan Omar is in Somalia
And lil' Nicky Maduro has given his final words on the gallows

I will start considering him to be THE greatest president, not just one of...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (sKqQm)

302 Does this mean steak is going to get more expensive? Cause it sounds like steak is going to get more expensive.
Posted by: Clay at January 07, 2026 05:06 PM (oOYKt)

IIRC the tariffs on imported beef from Argentina are now very low. Also the EU rules on beef are very exclusive of foreign beef.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (rbvCR)

303 You can see this on shorpy as well. Before the 80s you can't find an overweight kid. Then as time goes on they become more and more common.

One of the many things that the last season of stranger things gets wrong is having a morbidly obese kid in 1987...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:09 PM (sKqQm)

Well, not really. There were far far fewer than today of course but there were definitely some tubs in my elementary/middle school during that time frame

Posted by: damn I'm getting old at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (TbWk/)

304 I drink coffee black. I drink whole organic milk because I like milk. I don't care if milk contains natural sugars. I drink water to 'hydrate.'

I've been spoiled for life over beef - ranching family sends us 1/2 a butchered cow when needed. That said, I'm no steak aficionado and just want some meat and taters for dinner.

Posted by: 13times at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (fnZRl)

305 Bourbon is 0 carbs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (IGnEY)

306 Even the Supreme Court has said that Lower Courts get to over ride the Commander in Chiefs authority with the National Guard.
Posted by: Romeo13

Different matter and facts when a governor threatens to use the Guard to prevent ICE from operating. Supremacy clause is at stake there. Little Timmy plans to go out as a horrible example before he gets a prison sentence I guess.

Thelma and Louise YOLO. Minnesota, though, is in the back seat of the car going over the cliff.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (WDjG6)

307
I cook and eat good food not processed junk.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sDNVV)

Fist bump and I found some chanterelles yesterday and I cut about 5 pounds and will go and get more too. I'm stoked about the mushrooms.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (S6amQ)

308 I don't know, but it seems to me that in comparison cream blunts the taste of coffee, but butter gives you that creaminess and doesn't blunt the flavor.
___

How much butter should I use, one stick or two?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (Dv3i1)

309 That's what I said. Trump nationalizes the Mn Nat Guard and sends them to American Samoa.

Your move Timmy.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (WC9t6)
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That's typically not done without the governor's approval though.

So, ripping a state's NG away from them is rather unprecedented.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (krQz2)

310 Trump's statement on MN shooting. Truth Social site:

https://tinyurl.com/4264vjxk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (Nx5jP)

311 The idea of leftists voluntarily putting themselves on a bread and water diet in order to stick it to Trump makes me chuckle.

Cause they will, they'll do that.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (HXT0k)

312 There were 420 students in my high school class in 1973. Maybe 6 or 7 were overweight.

Posted by: No ONe Starved To Death at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (oftw2)

313 Not reliable evidence. Carbs are needed for essential biologic function.
Not the amounts we consume...but, there are processes that require carbs.
Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (ddphe)

Name the essential carbohydrate. The one that you must eat to get and without which you will die.

You can't because there isn't one. There are essential proteins, there are essential fats, but there are no essential carbs. None.

Dozens, maybe hundreds, of studies at this point. But people know what they know and they aren't gonna change what they've believed their whole lives. That's why arguing nutrition here is pointless.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (ExV1e)

314 The idea of leftists voluntarily putting themselves on a bread and water diet in order to stick it to Trump makes me chuckle.

Bread, wine, cheetoes, and ho hos...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (sKqQm)

315 No food at all where you have to kill the entire organism to eat it?
Da hell you people eat, then, leaves and hair?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

toenail clippings.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (1Nv0l)

316 All these posts on drinking is making me go for an early afternoon cocktail.... with orange juice as a mixer.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (xvV+O)

317 >>Fist bump and I found some chanterelles yesterday and I cut about 5 pounds and will go and get more too. I'm stoked about the mushrooms.

Nice. Those are incredibly tasty.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:15 PM (ddphe)

318 If you go back 10K years you'll find people eating meat, fruit, and vegetables but almost no carbs.

I would assume then we could still live easily with none...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sKqQm
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Fruit and vegetables aren't carbs? News to me.

Posted by: Bigsmith at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (1Au9i)

319 Unless Timmy wants to go all 1861, National Guard units are subject to Federal Military Authority. He sounds like he doesn't realize that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM

It sounds like Herr tampon tim is using this shooting as a distraction from his other issues.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (0N4FZ)

320 Thelma and Louise YOLO. Minnesota, though, is in the back seat of the car going over the cliff.
Posted by: whig

I thought Scandinavians were rather shy and reserved. Maybe they're not getting enough vit D.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (Dv3i1)

321 One B-2 with a Load of two Bunker Busters....

Problem in Minneapolis problem solved....

Posted by: General Ripper at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (38587)

322 People 10,0000 year ago lived in caves, and their art was shit. I'm not taking their advice on anything.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
serious or shitposting? you be the judge! at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (u1qVW)

323 No food at all where you have to kill the entire organism to eat it?
Da hell you people eat, then, leaves and hair?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

toenail clippings.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators
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Empty. Calories.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (xvV+O)

324 Absolutely, 100% not true.
Posted by: Piper

You need proteins, and fats, and vitamins, ....

Carbs are only energy. You can get that energy from fat so I think it is technically 100% true that carbs are not essential.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 05:16 PM (bIWgk)

325 If you go back 10K years you'll find people eating meat, fruit, and vegetables but almost no carbs.

I would assume then we could still live easily with none...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sKqQm)

Fruits and vegetables contain carbohydrates, to varying degrees.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (ExV1e)

326 Name the essential carbohydrate. The one that you must eat to get and without which you will die.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Cheetos. Any variety.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (1Nv0l)

327 Sigh, I just learned my beloved Carando sausage is owned by the Chinks at Smithfield.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (wBaIH)

328 >>Name the essential carbohydrate.

Nice strawman.

There are biological/metabolic processes that require carbohydrates.
This is not an opinion.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (ddphe)

329 Well, not really. There were far far fewer than today of course but there were definitely some tubs in my elementary/middle school during that time frame

I did know some chunky kids but morbidly obese? The kid on Stranger things is 12 and the internet says about 200 lbs...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (sKqQm)

330 You can see this on shorpy as well. Before the 80s you can't find an overweight kid. Then as time goes on they become more and more common.

We had ONE throughout the whole 70's. And he was big boned. Because he was every bit as active as the rest of us.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (WC9t6)

331 Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:10 PM (ddphe)

You might not need dietary carbohydrates. Glycogen is a carbohydrate and it is found in abundance in meat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (n9ltV)

332 I did some cycle training on beech mtn once on low carbs. Had crippling lactic acid issues.

Posted by: NCKate at January 07, 2026 05:18 PM (uQzkA)

333 Even fiber is non essential.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:18 PM (IGnEY)

334 >>Fruit and vegetables aren't carbs? News to me.

Don't stop them...they are on a roll.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:18 PM (ddphe)

335 >>>I smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day, drink wine every night and have seen a doctor twice in my life. Once for stitches in my lip and once when I had a laceration from being kicked by a horse. At 75 I take no medications.

I cook and eat good food not processed junk.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sDNVV)
*****
Ben Had, what is your opinion about organic foods. I'm skeptical but interested in your opinion. TIA Rufus

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 07, 2026 05:18 PM (TB/rm)

336 How much butter should I use, one stick or two?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (Dv3i1)
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2 tablespoons per 16-oz coffee.

And shake it up, you get something that good and frothy.

I saw something about how butter-coffee is kind of like "Yak water" that the Tibetans use to stay warm.

They combine warm water with yak fat and vigorously shake it up. It's like a perfect combination to open your body to converting white fat to burnable brown fat.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:18 PM (krQz2)

337 The men of the Lewis and Clark expedition were often starved for animal fat. any time they got a buffalo, a bear, or beaver tail they feasted. They consumed huge amounts of lean meat (elk, deer, antelope) to stay fed, but it was not enough.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 07, 2026 05:18 PM (PSEDc)

338 That's what I said. Trump nationalizes the Mn Nat Guard and sends them to American Samoa.

Your move Timmy.
Posted by: rickb223
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Send them to Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands. Troops would like an all expense paid trip to there given the temps and snow on the ground in MN.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (WDjG6)

339 242 >>>Several months later, she sadly told me she wasn't allowed to sell me raw milk anymore because of some regulation. I was willing to sign a liability waiver!

I'm all for agencies making the public aware of risks, but let us make our own deccisions.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (USyCi)
*****
Where I live in NC, raw milk is sold with a "not for human consumption" label. Heh, yeah but if I drive to SC no labels on raw milk. I like raw milk and buy it when I can find it.
Posted
I saw an ad today for a new program ‘Suddenly Amish’. I think this is entertainment taking another whack at destroying the Amish. The left hates everything good and pure, Godly.

Posted by: Eromero at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (o2ZRX)

340 If you go back 10K years you'll find people eating meat, fruit, and vegetables but almost no carbs.

I would assume then we could still live easily with none...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sKqQm)

Carbs are very storeable, and really important for winter consumption. This was a benefit that the early farmers had over the herding and foraging cultures. It was the sort of thing that let you stay in one place and care for the kids and the weak. It is as always a trade off.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (rbvCR)

341 Name the essential carbohydrate.

Naan.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (WC9t6)

342 People have glycogen stored in the muscles.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (IGnEY)

343 smith smith prefers meat up his keister
Posted by: It's a part he likes to play at January 07, 2026 04:47 PM (TbWk/)

His favorite vegetable is splooge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (8zz6B)

344 Sad to see bourbon was not at the top. We need more science!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (n5tGW)

345 If mushrooms don't make you hallucinate, they're just empty calories!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (wBaIH)

346 Not too many fat executives in the 50-60s with steak and 3 martini lunches either.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (xvV+O)

347 I just realized, cave art of 10,000 years ago was revisited by the Impressionists

Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (Ia/+0)

348 >Fruit and vegetables aren't carbs? News to me.

Don't stop them...they are on a roll.

We've gone from a food thread to a pun thread...

Anyway if its fruit wouldn't it be better on a crepe then a roll?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (sKqQm)

349 One snort of Ruby Port really rings the bell
Then a glass of Muscatel sets my head up well
Then this sweetest bottle of cheapest sherry wine
I say goodbye to my mind
Posted by: The Youngbloods, 'Wine Song' at January 07, 2026

***
"It's midnight and I got
Two more bottles of wine"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (wzUl9)

350 I thought Scandinavians were rather shy and reserved. Maybe they're not getting enough vit D.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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They go viking when they start drinking.

Posted by: whig at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (WDjG6)

351 254 You do need healthy carbs.

I'm not going to argue with you because arguing about nutrition here is pointless but there is a LOT of evidence - as in research - which shows that you do not need carbs. At all.

There are thousands of people who chronicle their carnivore lifestyle, even the more restrictive beef-only carnivore, and the health improvements they've had as a result.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

You do you, I am not going to argue either. I am a nutritionist by education, I do fitness for a living, I am living breathing proof of weighing 200 pounds for a long time , I am 5’1. I wore a tight size 16. I wear a 2 or 4. I am not skinny, but I am fit. I am post menopausal (I know, you are welcome) and I have 4 pack abs. I have 3 kids, so those lower abs are a bugger, darn it. Flat, but I cannot get the definition. Anyway, no meds. Just food choices and working out. I do not know everything by any stretch, but I do know something.

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (Wmg4n)

352 Never bought that food pyramid BS. Raised on whole milk and was blessed with a mother that knew her way around a kitchen. That tradition continues tonight with a 4lb pork shoulder ala pernil. Should be ready in about forty minutes....

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (nbLIj)

353 For Christmas, wife got me ginger tea, it has a buttery flavor to it.
Don't put anything in it

Posted by: Skip at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (Ia/+0)

354 I'm all for agencies making the public aware of risks, but let us make our own deccisions.

The government that will pay for you to cut our junk off is worried about people drinking fresh milk

Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (sKqQm)

355 Is a Table spoon like an eighth of a stick?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (IGnEY)

356 Americans are chubby by and large because they sit around all day. They aren’t outdoors, they aren’t doing manual labor, they aren’t riding bikes until the street lights turn on. It is food, of course, too. But you are not going to become an Adonis merely by not using seed oils. Bad news bears, right? Also, you can be a great weight and have zero muscle tone, this isn’t exactly a great goal. It’s a very big picture.
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:00 PM (Wmg4n)

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I think they are fat three main reasons: sedentary lifestyle, sugary colas and the "three meals a day" paradigm .

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (Vh9CX)

357 For a period of years, colored margarine was illegal, thanks to the dairy lobby. So you got a brick of white margarine, and a little packet of yellow dye to mix with it, at the expense of some effort. But that went away early in my childhood.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 07, 2026 05:13 PM (8zz6B)

Mom used to say, "that was the neatest thing since colored margarine"
Until recently even margarine in this state had to have a different color than butter.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (rbvCR)

358 That's what I said. Trump nationalizes the Mn Nat Guard and sends them to American Samoa.
Posted by: rickb223

That could tip it over~~!!!!

Posted by: Rep Hank Johnson at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (mlg/3)

359 Imagine watching how the US military captured Nicolas Maduro and less than a week later threatening to deploy the national guard against federal personnel.

Posted by: Methos at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (vSvIl)

360 TBF, that pyramid IS upside down.

And is a triangle, not a pyramid.

(Looking at a picture from Giza for reference.)

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (NYInA)

361 >>You might not need dietary carbohydrates. Glycogen is a carbohydrate and it is found in abundance in meat.

That doesn't mean Metabolic Process doesn't require Carbs.

Now, how you can access those requirements is certainly something that can be altered. But the easiest way is to add beneficial carbs, regardless of source.

I can't tell you the volume and type of Protein you could achieve this with, off the top of my head.
But I can tell you that adding it via reasonable portions of carb rich foods that are not meat is not unhealthy.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (ddphe)

362 Absolutely, 100% not true.
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:08 PM (Wmg4n)

Name the essential carbohydrate.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (ExV1e)
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Captain Crunch was part of an essential breakfast!

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (krQz2)

363 Not too many fat executives in the 50-60s with steak and 3 martini lunches either.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026

***
No, just blown livers and coronaries from stress

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (wzUl9)

364 Fruit and vegetables aren't carbs? News to me.

Most vegetables are low and most fruits are fairly high with the exception of melons and berries but not blueberries which are higher...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (VE6XX)

365 One of those fancy teas makes you poop.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (IGnEY)

366 I will say, when I have done keto, my brain tends to feel a bit foggy. Great for losing weight, but not a fan of that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (zZu0s)

367 There are biological/metabolic processes that require carbohydrates.
This is not an opinion.
Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:17 PM (ddphe)

Sure. The brain requires glucose.

Now... When glycogen stores are depleted, typically after prolonged fasting or intense exercise, the body shifts to gluconeogenesis, the synthesis of glucose from non-carbohydrate precursors.

So, what that means, is that your very own body - unless there's something wrong with it - can produce the glucose that your brain requires without you ever eating any.

But you do you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:22 PM (ExV1e)

368 "The old one was upside down, created out of nothing besides what one Senator's quack doctor told him about nutrition, plus lots of lobbying by vegetarians who constantly pressure the government into lying about nutrition."

I don't know it it was lobbying by vegetarians so much as lobbying by powerful food industries. The old model with insane amounts of carbs and starchy foods always seemed to be the product of corporate lobbying. Who the fuck needs to eat that much bread??
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at January 07, 2026 04:39 PM (iFTx/)

What, companies that make meat and butter did no lobbying these 50 years?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:22 PM (8avO+)

369 I smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day, drink wine every night and have seen a doctor twice in my life. Once for stitches in my lip and once when I had a laceration from being kicked by a horse. At 75 I take no medications.

I cook and eat good food not processed junk.
Posted by: Ben Had

You should get your blood panel done. I only go to the doc once a year for my medical (outside of the times I have broken bones). It's worth it for the lab tests. Could be the difference between making it to 80 vs 90 (if you care).

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at January 07, 2026 05:22 PM (1Nv0l)

370 Not too many fat executives in the 50-60s with steak and 3 martini lunches either.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 07, 2026

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No, just blown livers and coronaries from stress
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (wzUl9)

Mmmmmm. Non filtered cigarettes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:22 PM (zZu0s)

371
The healthiest and the longest amount of time I was able to control my weight was the 8 years I was doing 20 carbs per day (from salad/low carb veggies) and meats,hard cheese, fats, and no sugar. I have started this this week. I'm 3 days in and notice a difference already. Cauliflower is my go to veggie.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 07, 2026 05:22 PM (IifOV)

372
There are other government guidelines that were put in place due to the enthusiasm of a small number of guys, when no one else wanted to bother.

The linear model of risk for exposure to toxins, for example. No allowance for non-linear risk, or the ability of the body's repair mechanisms to deal with low concentrations.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 07, 2026 05:22 PM (VWtfl)

373 254 You do need healthy carbs.

I'm not going to argue with you because arguing about nutrition here is pointless but there is a LOT of evidence - as in research - which shows that you do not need carbs. At all
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The human body is designed to persist. It can do without many thing s an survive. Being able to survive without a certain food does not mean the body does not need it.

The human was a grazer before it was a hunter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (xvXg6)

374 The initial food pyramid was introduced in the 1990s

Yeah just stop right there.
Born last night, or AI, because the first one I was subjected to was on an ancient FILM STRIP, viewed the school year JFK was shot. If the food pyramid isn't at least 100 years old I will eat everything on it. What the hell -- worth a try?

God Damn It, this is important. You are not allowed to just make shit up. And if I can't trust you on those so-called 'details,' I'm not going to trust you on the large items either.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (zdLoL)

375 If mushrooms don't make you hallucinate, they're just empty calories!
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

If they do make you hallucinate, you can burn a lot of calories running from shit that scares you.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (WC9t6)

376 I do not say this to recommend anything.

I went nicotine free about 6 months ago for the first time in about 20 years.

Life seems drab and unexciting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (zZu0s)

377 If you go back 10K years you'll find people eating meat, fruit, and vegetables but almost no carbs.

I would assume then we could still live easily with none...
Posted by: 18-1 at January 07, 2026 05:12 PM (sKqQm)

Fruits and vegetables are absolutely carbohydrates.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (zYpTz)

378 I miss smoking.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (Cw/ar)

379 I will say, when I have done keto, my brain tends to feel a bit foggy. Great for losing weight, but not a fan of that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (zZu0s)

I'd think you could just have a smidge of honey or something if that is a problem.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (8avO+)

380 "I found some chanterelles yesterday and I cut about 5 pounds and will go and get more too.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:14 PM (S6amQ)

This must be the year of the Chanterelles here in the valley cause just yesterday I spotted a rather large patch of them and called a friend who is really into mushrooms.

Posted by: 13times at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (fnZRl)

381 "The old one was upside down, created out of nothing besides what one Senator's quack doctor told him about nutrition, plus lots of lobbying by vegetarians who constantly pressure the government into lying about nutrition."
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Don't leave that worthless pile of shit FDR out of the blame for this.
His "let's have the government buy up all the wheat and milk farmers can't sell if it falls below the price set by some doofus pencil-pusher in DC."

Then: "we have a shit ton of wheat and milk. What do we do? Let's recommend people eat 12 servings of bread a day!
And cereal! Milk on sugar-loaded cereal!
And we'll turn the rest of the milk into cheese and refrigerate it for decades."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (HXT0k)

382 Is a Table spoon like an eighth of a stick?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (IGnEY)
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Yeah. I use a fourth of a stick. + MCT.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (krQz2)

383 Cauliflower is my go to veggie.
Posted by: Frank Barone
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Try boiled cabbage with butta'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (xvXg6)

384 Rufus, my opinion is organic is mostly a marketing play for the " I want to eat super healthy" crowd. The increased cost isn't worth it.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (sDNVV)

385 What kind of butter should you put in your coffee, if you decide to try such a thing? Whipped and salted, unsalted, or what?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (wzUl9)

386 366 I will say, when I have done keto, my brain tends to feel a bit foggy. Great for losing weight, but not a fan of that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (zZu0s)

I feel the complete opposite, I feel better eating fewer carbs and no processed food.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (8+C2v)

387 I will say, when I have done keto, my brain tends to feel a bit foggy. Great for losing weight, but not a fan of that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

Made my piss smell terrible. Definitely works for weight loss. But very hard to sustain. I switched to consuming a minimum of 150g of protein a day, while staying under a calorie limit. That minimizes the carbs and the carb cravings.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (1Nv0l)

388 I went nicotine free about 6 months ago for the first time in about 20 years.

Life seems drab and unexciting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (zZu0s)

That's because it is, for the overwhelming majority of people.

Posted by: Life is a long boring sentence at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (TbWk/)

389 Try boiled cabbage with butta'.

Posted by: Braenyard -

Or skillet cabbage with Bacon grease. Yum.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (Cw/ar)

390 Butter is one of four food groups.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (jc0TO)

391 I'm a Level Five Vegan. I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

Posted by: Jesse Grass at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM (0BrN/)

392 >>I miss smoking.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (Cw/ar
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So do I, a lot. I really enjoyed a smoke with my coffee or an adult beverage(s)

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM (TB/rm)

393 Melted butter and bacon grease is good soup.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM (IGnEY)

394 The human body is designed to persist. It can do without many thing s an survive. Being able to survive without a certain food does not mean the body does not need it.

The human was a grazer before it was a hunter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:23 PM (xvXg6)

There are only 7 amino acids our body can't manufacture from scraps. These are the ones that are the least useful and can afford to be left to chance and instincts to get, and a bit of meat gives them to you.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM (8avO+)

395 Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (Wmg4n

I trust you, Piper, and if I lived closer I would come to your studio. Plus, I think you're a very nice person.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM (ix8EF)

396 The largest crop in ancient Egypt was wheat. Porridge was the staple meal.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (sDNVV)

397
This must be the year of the Chanterelles here in the valley cause just yesterday I spotted a rather large patch of them and called a friend who is really into mushrooms.
Posted by: 13times at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM

I find where the poison oak grows under the oak trees and lots of leaves is where I find them. I have to beat the thieves that go and steal them from me every year. I didn't get any last rain season.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (8+C2v)

398 Everyone is telling others "you do you"

Is this a polite way of saying "go f--- yourself"?
I wonder.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (bIWgk)

399 Republican James Comer, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, released a report Tuesday on how anti-alcohol activists in the Biden administration attempted to meddle with the Dietary Guidelines process and promote the idea that “no amount” of booze is safe.

Posted by: SMOD at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (r5p5k)

400 What kind of butter should you put in your coffee, if you decide to try such a thing? Whipped and salted, unsalted, or what?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (wzUl9)

Coffee should be like your heart... black, with no butter in it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (dGCAG)

401 I'm a Level Five Vegan. I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
Posted by: Jesse Grass at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM

I snorted out loud.

Posted by: toby928(c) at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (jc0TO)

402 It's like Waltz has permission to take my stuff.

Posted by: thug dolphin at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (EyfuW)

403 >>>I miss smoking.

I quit for about 6-8 months a year.

But, I always go back in the winter.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (ddphe)

404 Beef, butter, bacon, and eggs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (IGnEY)

405 I think they are fat three main reasons: sedentary lifestyle, sugary colas and the "three meals a day" paradigm .

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 07

You could get all your calories in one or two meals. It won’t kill you, but you can also spread those calories out. My blood sugar would fall through the floor if I ate once a day. I eat a lot. But I don’t eat chips and Cheetos a lot. You can eat a shizzle ton of green beans for the same calories. 😊

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (Wmg4n)

406 So do I, a lot. I really enjoyed a smoke with my coffee or an adult beverage(s)
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 07, 2026 05:26 PM (TB/rm)

take up juggling, somehow I always got that smokers just needed the ritual of bumming cigs, finding matches and holding them more than the smokes.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:28 PM (8avO+)

407 I will say, when I have done keto, my brain tends to feel a bit foggy. Great for losing weight, but not a fan of that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM (zZu0s)

I feel the complete opposite, I feel better eating fewer carbs and no processed food.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (8+C2v)
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Yeah. Keto is supposed to clear brain fog. ¯\_(ツ

_/¯

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:28 PM (krQz2)

408 Everyone is telling others "you do you"

Is this a polite way of saying "go f--- yourself"?
I wonder.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (bIWgk)

More like a way to say that I don't care nearly enough about convincing you of my position to put effort into it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:28 PM (ExV1e)

409 >>I find where the poison oak grows under the oak trees and lots of leaves is where I find them.

The fairy rings of old/dead trees is the go to, imo.

However, if there is any Oak/Ivy there, the mushrooms are safe from me. I end up in the ER if I touch that shit.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:28 PM (ddphe)

410 Or skillet cabbage with Bacon grease. Yum.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at January 07, 2026 05:25 PM (Cw/ar)

With bacon and just a pinch of sugar

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:28 PM (WC9t6)

411 What is Tim planning on doing with the national guard?

Posted by: Max Power at January 07, 2026 05:28 PM (SwyyQ)

412 Salt was mentioned. I love salt. Just as salt is used to make jerky it also dehydrates the living cell. Eat salt drink water.
Also; Some people (using allergic improperly) have a certain sensitivity to salt which affects their body negatively - IE raises blood pressure and other things.
You can be tested for that. Dr.s have been muzzled about that test.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (xvXg6)

413 Nutritional terrorism.

SILENCE!!! I KALE YOU!!!

Posted by: Some fates are worse than death at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (TbWk/)

414
Life seems drab and unexciting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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If you stop drinking and smoking you'll live a lot longer...or at least it will seem like a lot longer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (XeU6L)

415 >>take up juggling, somehow I always got that smokers just needed the ritual of bumming cigs, finding matches and holding them more than the smokes.

Yo-Yo is my go to for curing the 'hand fixation'.

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (ddphe)

416 Rufus, my opinion is organic is mostly a marketing play for the " I want to eat super healthy" crowd. The increased cost isn't worth it.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (sDNVV)

It is also a maddening misuse of the term, so perfect for the illiterate and gullible crowd...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (nbLIj)

417 >>>Rufus, my opinion is organic is mostly a marketing play for the " I want to eat super healthy" crowd. The increased cost isn't worth it.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (sDNVV)
******
Thank you, I tend to agree but I'm sort of on an island here so there ya go. Appreciate it. R.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (TB/rm)

418 I'm just going to keep eating burgers and fries until the food police knock down my door and drag me away. I gave up smoking 7 years ago; I figure I've done my bit.

Posted by: Paco at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (2L+MU)

419 I miss smoking.

I quit 13 years ago. And I still miss it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (WC9t6)

420 Yo-Yo is my go to for curing the 'hand fixation'.
Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (ddphe)

There's always Planet Fitness

Posted by: Speaking of hand fixations at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (TbWk/)

421 I make my own ice coffee adding whipping cream, which is butter I'm disinclined to churn.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (wBaIH)

422 What kind of butter should you put in your coffee, if you decide to try such a thing? Whipped and salted, unsalted, or what?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (wzUl9)
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Definitely unsalted.

And from grass fed cows (so it has a better Omega 3/6 balance) is better.

I didn't like Ghee which is what some people use--and really organic ghee is the cleanest. But I'm going to try it again.

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (krQz2)

423 They literally flipped the pyramid upside down like South Park said to do. 😂

Posted by: SMOD at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (r5p5k)

424 >>Thank you, I tend to agree but I'm sort of on an island here so there ya go.

I used to guide the head of the CA Organic Wine Growers Association.
I will quote him:
"Garrett, there is NO such thing as Organic wine.".

Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (ddphe)

425 You could get all your calories in one or two meals. It won’t kill you, but you can also spread those calories out. My blood sugar would fall through the floor if I ate once a day. I eat a lot. But I don’t eat chips and Cheetos a lot. You can eat a shizzle ton of green beans for the same calories. 😊
Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:27 PM (Wmg4n)

I've been the reverse with time I've tended to have nothing or tiny stuff at lunch and breakfast and now less at dinner too.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (8avO+)

426 Oh and NOOD

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (wBaIH)

427 345 If mushrooms don't make you hallucinate, they're just empty calories!
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:19 PM (wBaIH)

Do not eat the mushrooms growing in the cow pies.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (8+C2v)

428 Nood. Boats - technically ships but whatever.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (ExV1e)

429 Rufus, my opinion is organic is mostly a marketing play for the " I want to eat super healthy" crowd. The increased cost isn't worth it.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (sDNVV)

Organic may include extra protein, though; you know, all those bugs and nematodes and things.

Posted by: Paco at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (2L+MU)

430 Though I remember Fauci saying he took 10K of Vit D a day which is...not a great idea for most people.
Posted by: 18-1

I'm sure it doesn't work for some people, but that's only 250 micrograms.

That's the amount that works for me, for whole bunch of things, like not falling into a depressive spiral and other emotional equilibrium maintenance things, and using less ibuprofen at certain times of the month.

K2 (the menaquinone-7 form of it) is supposed to work with D3 to ... direct the D3 to put calcium in the proper places? I think? But there are apparently different forms of K2 that do different things. Menaquinone-4 is supposed to do good things for your brain.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (a+4eV)

431 Nutritional terrorism.

SILENCE!!! I KALE YOU!!!
Posted by: Some fates are worse than death at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (TbWk/)
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* golf clap *

Posted by: Axeman at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (krQz2)

432 Is this Housemaid movie good?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (IGnEY)

433 Don't blame the alligators, I have no interest in living to be 80 or 90. The day I can't take care of myself I'm done.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:32 PM (sDNVV)

434 bumming cigs, finding matches and holding them more than the smokes.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Rituals

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:32 PM (xvXg6)

435 Some big shit is jumping off in New York City. With the FBI and a bunch of law-enforcement unfortunately I'm driving and of course we can't post pictures.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:32 PM (WC9t6)

436 >>take up juggling, somehow I always got that smokers just needed the ritual of bumming cigs, finding matches and holding them more than the smokes.

Yo-Yo is my go to for curing the 'hand fixation'.
Posted by: garrett at January 07, 2026 05:29 PM (ddphe)

upgrade to throwing daggers or shirukin

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:33 PM (8avO+)

437 I quit 13 years ago. And I still miss it.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (WC9t6)

That's awful. I dipped for about 20 years, and I've been quit for about 20 years. I still dream about it, but as soon as I wake up I remember I don't use anymore, and the feeling of liberation is fantastic.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2026 05:33 PM (dGCAG)

438 Rufus, my opinion is organic is mostly a marketing play for the " I want to eat super healthy" crowd. The increased cost isn't worth it.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:24 PM (sDNVV)

It is also a maddening misuse of the term, so perfect for the illiterate and gullible crowd...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at January 07, 2026

***
Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 was a chemistry student, and she found it irritating that they used "organic" on things. To her that meant "It has carbon in it."

When I see "organic milk" in the store, I tell Linda, "Good, I was tired of that silicon milk I saw everywhere."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 07, 2026 05:33 PM (wzUl9)

439 bumming cigs, finding matches and holding them more than the smokes.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Rituals

Posted by: Braenyard

Plain Air just doesn't have the same kick as nicotine and caffeine.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:33 PM (WC9t6)

440 395 Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:20 PM (Wmg4n

I trust you, Piper, and if I lived closer I would come to your studio. Plus, I think you're a very nice person.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 07

Thank you. Listen, everyone has an opinion. Some are good, some aren’t. I am pretty sure most can weed through and recognize what’s what, for the most part. Plus, everyone, including me, wants an easy answer and fix that comes with zero downside. But there isn’t one. Not yet at least!

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:34 PM (Wmg4n)

441 Walz issues 'warning order' to prep National Guard

Posted by: SMOD at January 07, 2026 05:34 PM (r5p5k)

442 421 I make my own ice coffee adding whipping cream, which is butter I'm disinclined to churn.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 07, 2026 05:30 PM (wBaIH)

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I just take my cup of coffee out to the barn and squeeze out the raw milk straight from the cow's teet.

For sweetening I pull out a honeycomb straight from the hive and drip some raw honey into the cup.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 07, 2026 05:34 PM (Vh9CX)

443 bumming cigs, finding matches and holding them more than the smokes.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Rituals

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:32 PM (xvXg6)

I remember getting a pack once and smoking it alone once I'd lost contact with actual smokers. Never smoked myself.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:34 PM (8avO+)

444 Tenured TN university professor fired for making "insensitive" remarks on social media the day after Chslie akurk was killed. Reinstated and given extra half million compensation
He posted on social media a quote from Charlie saying "unfortunately these deaths are the price we must pay to protect the 2nd Amendment "

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at January 07, 2026 05:35 PM (5WW1s)

445 Caligirl - I think the persistent wet since Thanksgiving has created the perfect conditions for mushrooms in the North Sacramento Valley where the valley meets foothills. (no pines)

It's not dried out here in weeks.

Posted by: 13times at January 07, 2026 05:35 PM (fnZRl)

446 For sweetening I pull out a honeycomb straight from the hive and drip some raw honey into the cup.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 07, 2026 05:34 PM (Vh9CX)

Chew on the bees for extra buzz.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:35 PM (8avO+)

447 419 I miss smoking.
I quit 13 years ago. And I still miss it. - rickb223

I'll tell you this; I'm glad I quit - sort of had to - but I wouldn't give up a single cigar or cigarette I smoked over about 40 years. I genuinely loved tobacco, and it worked, for me anyway, in reducing the tension and anxiety of everyday life.

Posted by: Paco at January 07, 2026 05:35 PM (2L+MU)

448 All milk is organic. It contains Carbon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:35 PM (IGnEY)

449 Nood! We took ships that were trying to be cute with flags!

Posted by: Piper at January 07, 2026 05:36 PM (Wmg4n)

450 K2 (the menaquinone-7 form of it) is supposed to work with D3 to ... direct the D3 to put calcium in the proper places? I think? But there are apparently different forms of K2 that do different things. Menaquinone-4 is supposed to do good things for your brain.
Posted by: FeatherBlade
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And Mg Citrate. When you go for you annual they will (if you ask) check your vit D level. Adjust accordingly.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:36 PM (xvXg6)

451 I think they are fat three main reasons: sedentary lifestyle, sugary colas and the "three meals a day" paradigm .

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 07, 2026 05:21 PM

When I was in grade school almost every morning we would exercise to that stupid "chicken fat" song with the teachers watching. If you didn't at least try they would be all over your a$$ in front of all of the other kids in your school.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 07, 2026 05:36 PM (0N4FZ)

452 Try vaping.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 07, 2026 05:36 PM (IGnEY)

453 Harold Ford, Jr moments ago on Fox News: Why didn't they (ICE) shoot-out her tires?

Galactic level stupidity. Same as FJB saying police should shoot charging perps in the leg.

It will probably be ineffectual at close range. The things that can go wrong are innumerable.

Posted by: Gref at January 07, 2026 05:36 PM (5rh/l)

454 That's awful. I dipped for about 20 years, and I've been quit for about 20 years. I still dream about it, but as soon as I wake up I remember I don't use anymore, and the feeling of liberation is fantastic.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2026 05:33 PM (dGCAG)

I'm never going back to smoking. But every now and then I'll pass by someplace and get a whiff of it, and it just makes me remember the smell. It's like I'll go to the casino and I'll stand in the no smoking part but I'll get real close to that hallway that leads to the smoking section. Just to get a good whiff every now and then.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 07, 2026 05:36 PM (WC9t6)

455 I've been the reverse with time I've tended to have nothing or tiny stuff at lunch and breakfast and now less at dinner too.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:31 PM (8avO+)

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I've always felt better by skipping breakfast and having a small snack for lunch.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 07, 2026 05:37 PM (Vh9CX)

456 If you have some sort of wellness program tied to your work insurance, you'll want to show them this pyramid. They are still working off the old one, telling people to eat low fat, low salt, high carbs.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 07, 2026 05:37 PM (+mUZM)

457 nood

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Posted by: banana Dream at January 07, 2026 05:38 PM (3uBP9)

458 If you have some sort of wellness program tied to your work insurance, you'll want to show them this pyramid. They are still working off the old one, telling people to eat low fat, low salt, high carbs.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 07, 2026 05:37 PM (+mUZM)

I instantly reject anything that calls itself 'wellness' . To Orwellian.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 07, 2026 05:39 PM (8avO+)

459 Another component to putting the many different bread (pasta) products at the mass level. It was done to mask the increased cost of food (inflation).

They filled our bellies with cheap fluff masking the increased cost of a meal at the steak house.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 07, 2026 05:39 PM (xvXg6)

460 I do one meal at day at lunch and is a full meal. Evening is some fruit or a little cheese with my wine.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 07, 2026 05:40 PM (sDNVV)

461 I smoked unwater in a dream with sub titles.

Posted by: thug dolphin at January 07, 2026 05:43 PM (EyfuW)

462
So does this mean that the Army is going to redo the MREs to the first two menu lists, with actual American food? Because when I read the modern MRE menus it's all weird TexMex, Italian and Indian food that's mostly carb heavy pasta, beans and rice.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 07, 2026 05:45 PM (y9nCu)

463 Life is like a little smart-aleck.....

Posted by: Dee Dee Ramone, 1993 at January 07, 2026 05:49 PM (oftw2)

464 What kills me are these ads I see from my insurance company promoting some "portion control" bullshit colored plate gimmick, showing totally out of shape, soft people lounging on their couches in loose fitting clothes with facial expressions beaming from all the "positive steps" they're taking in their "wellness."

A lot of people need a little less affirmation and lot more Gunny Seargant Hartman.

Posted by: Zek at January 07, 2026 05:52 PM (5FPX4)

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