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THE MORNING RANT: As Warner Bros Discovery circles the drain, CEO David Zaslav extracts generational wealth for himself
to my “bad business tally.” Mr. Washington wrote:
To add to your bad business tally… WB’s David Zaslav did such a bad job his distressed studio is about to functionally disappear… there will be hundreds if not thousands of layoffs, many from the very divisions that created the value Netflix now wants to own. And despite this abysmal record, Zaslav is going to walk away from this deal with the reward of generational wealth for his failure.It doesn’t take much digging to see what a mess Zaslav has made, and how obscenely he has rewarded himself despite (or because of ?) the destruction he has wrought. Some quick background - David Zaslav was a successful executive at NBC before taking the helm at Discovery Communications. Meanwhile, AT&T had bought Time Warner Media in 2018. By 2022, AT&T decided to unload that same entity, which it had renamed Warner Media. Mr. Zaslav and Discovery took on about $40 billion in debt to buy Warner Media, plus it assumed Warner’s existing debt, leaving the post-acquisition company (named Warner Bros Discovery) choking on about $50 billion in debt. The cost of digesting the merger, along with a variety of operational reasons, caused WBD to start losing money, which was really inconvenient since it needed to service all that debt. Over the following three years, Warner Bros Discovery lost over $21 billion. These tremendous losses necessitated severe austerity measures, including several rounds of layoffs putting thousands of employees out of work. Those laid off employees weren’t actors. They were everyday people behind the scenes in sales, accounting, production, etc. The actual owners of the company, its stockholders, also took a financial drumming thanks to Zaslav’s stewardship of the company. A decade ago, Discovery stock was trading at about $40 per share, and it hit $50 per share shortly before the Warner Brothers acquisition. But as WBD bled red ink and focused on cost cutting, its top line revenue started decreasing too. Losses combined with negative revenue growth are a toxic combination to investors, resulting in the stock price dropping about 80% to less than $10 per share. Despite the rolling financial catastrophe at Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav continued to be richly compensated. Over the past three full years, his total compensation exceeded $140 million. In 2024 alone, a year that WBD suffered an $11 billion loss on declining revenue, Mr. Zaslav was rewarded with total compensation of $52 million. Despite WBD’s persistent losses and its doubtful ability to service its debt, it houses a valuable film library, and it still owns some desirable properties such as HBO and Warner Bros Studios. Netflix and Paramount are both making bids to purchase WBD at about $30 per share, which doesn’t recoup all the money investors have lost, but it is much better for stockholders than the bankruptcy that seems imminent if WBD remains independent. Unfortunately for WBD’s employees, its acquisition will result in thousands more jobs being eliminated by the acquiring entity. But where does that leave Mr. Zaslav and his executive team? Don’t worry, they’ll be fine. According to The Hollywood Reporter, upon the sale of Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million. Several of Zaslav’s top lieutenants will also receive golden parachutes worth in excess of $100 million. That is impressive compensation for destroying a company. Think of how much they’d be worth if they were running a profitable company with revenue growth. I am a free market capitalist. I don’t write these types of articles because I’m seeking government action to regulate away the behavior of people such as Zaslav. Just the opposite. To keep the socialists at bay, there is an obligation for us free marketeers to police those who are accessing levers of power to extract wealth rather than create wealth. If corporate boards don’t start putting some controls on parasitic executive behavior, people will start voting for politicians who will.
Oh, heck yeah! Let me do a little research and put together a post. I’m so glad that Zaslav and his heirs are set for life after he ran WB into the ground. Those lost jobs, livelihoods, and ruined lives are mere statistics. The transfer of wealth from WB to Zaslav is inspiring.
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) December 17, 2025
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SPONGE!!!
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)
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I have summoned the others.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 22, 2025 11:01 AM (O7YUW)
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Thank goodness for the new thread.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)
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greedy corporatist pigs feeding at the trough
Posted by: kallisto at December 22, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)
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Must be nice.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 22, 2025 11:02 AM (Kt19C)
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So David Zaslav is a greedy asshole now? It wasn't long ago that he was getting praised here for trying to turn around a failing woke enterprise. I stayed out of that discussion because I know these guys are all the same. And who can blame them? The money is there for the taking. Of course Zaslav is gonna take it.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:03 AM (iFTx/)
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The King of grift??
Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2025 11:04 AM (/9IVT)
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Of course that would not buyGates' yacht.
Posted by: tubal at December 22, 2025 11:05 AM (/9IVT)
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It's probably just a money laundering scheme for the CIA.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM (dGCAG)
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So ... The Brown and MIT shooter(s) is gonna be like the Las Vegas shooter, right? We are gonna be told nothing but lies and never know the truth. Right?
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM (iFTx/)
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More trannies, assorted whack jobs, and psychotic, dystopian hellscape movies will turn things around
Posted by: Common Tater at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM (gu2bt)
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>> According to The Hollywood Reporter, upon the sale of Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million
This makes zero sense. It seems like shareholders could sue the board for negligence… because even someone like me who knows nothing about running a corporation knows that’s ridiculous mismanagement… know it at a glance. It goes beyond incompetence to sabotage/theft
This makes zero sense. It seems like shareholders could sue the board for negligence… because even someone like me who knows nothing about running a corporation knows that’s ridiculous mismanagement… know it at a glance. It goes beyond incompetence to sabotage/theft
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM (xT8gx)
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If these corporate boards are dumb enough to sign these contracts they get exactly what they deserve. Fuck em all.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (5aZAZ)
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George MF Washington should start commenting here.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
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... there will be hundreds if not thousands of layoffs, many from the very divisions that created the value Netflix now wants to own. And despite this abysmal record, Zaslav is going to walk away from this deal with the reward of generational wealth for his failure.
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Was it a failure?
WB was a failed enterprise. Zaslav bought it at a discount to extract everything that could be extracted. That's done now. He cut out as much money-losing stuff as he could, and is selling off the remainder to someone who will finish strip-mining it.
Take Zaslav out of the equation. Where would WB be today, had Discovery not picked it up? Probably the same place it is now: gone.
Hollywood is finished. It sure looks like Zaslav strip-mined it and laughed all the way to the bank, but that is also probably all WB was good for. It was a dead letter, and what happened to WB is what is going to happen to the rest of Hollywood. Hollywood is down to asset value now, and people with money are going to extract those assets and throw the rest on the bonfire. The industry is dead, and the vultures will pick over the carcass.
Strip-mining is much more harmful when it takes out a going concern.
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Was it a failure?
WB was a failed enterprise. Zaslav bought it at a discount to extract everything that could be extracted. That's done now. He cut out as much money-losing stuff as he could, and is selling off the remainder to someone who will finish strip-mining it.
Take Zaslav out of the equation. Where would WB be today, had Discovery not picked it up? Probably the same place it is now: gone.
Hollywood is finished. It sure looks like Zaslav strip-mined it and laughed all the way to the bank, but that is also probably all WB was good for. It was a dead letter, and what happened to WB is what is going to happen to the rest of Hollywood. Hollywood is down to asset value now, and people with money are going to extract those assets and throw the rest on the bonfire. The industry is dead, and the vultures will pick over the carcass.
Strip-mining is much more harmful when it takes out a going concern.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (avHHk)
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So David Zaslav is a greedy asshole now"
Well, depends on one's point of view, I guess.
Businesses, like all other human organizations, come and go...
Well, depends on one's point of view, I guess.
Businesses, like all other human organizations, come and go...
Posted by: man at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (XuXeR)
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Corporate boards are pretty spineless.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
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So ... The Brown and MIT shooter(s) is gonna be like the Las Vegas shooter, right? We are gonna be told nothing but lies and never know the truth. Right?
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM (iFTx/)
That's how it works. That's how all of this works.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM (iFTx/)
That's how it works. That's how all of this works.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:08 AM (dGCAG)
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The actual owners of the company, its stockholders, also took a financial drumming thanks to Zaslav’s stewardship of the company.
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WB was a terrible acquisition, akin to AOL-TimeWarner in the realm of bad ideas. And its shareholders approved it.
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WB was a terrible acquisition, akin to AOL-TimeWarner in the realm of bad ideas. And its shareholders approved it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:08 AM (avHHk)
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I'm all for media dying. It's not the media I was hoping would die off first, however.
That would have been the MSM.
That would have been the MSM.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2025 11:08 AM (NwnyJ)
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So ... The Brown and MIT shooter(s) is gonna be like the Las Vegas shooter, right? We are gonna be told nothing but lies and never know the truth. Right?
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
Separated at birth?
https://is.gd/QOjuYq
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
Separated at birth?
https://is.gd/QOjuYq
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:08 AM (L/fGl)
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Maybe JMS can buy back the distribution rights to B5 if things go to "fire sale" prices.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 22, 2025 11:09 AM (O7YUW)
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Like you, I do not wish to see more intrusive government controls, since those would only turn out badly. BUT there is a huge flaw in our current corporate ownership and corporate governance systems, in which it appears to be relatively easy for a group of insiders to take over a successful business and loot it for their own benefit, with no observable repercussions to themselves. In fact, with great personal profit to themselves.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 11:09 AM (uWKK8)
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That's all, folks!
Posted by: David Zaslav at December 22, 2025 11:09 AM (vFG9F)
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According to The Hollywood Reporter, upon the sale of Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million. Several of Zaslav’s top lieutenants will also receive golden parachutes worth in excess of $100 million. That is impressive compensation for destroying a company. Think how much they’d be worth if they were running a profitable company with revenue growth.
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Time will tell on that. They certainly destroyed the remnants of WB. It remains to be seen whether they destroyed Discovery. They may well not have.
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Time will tell on that. They certainly destroyed the remnants of WB. It remains to be seen whether they destroyed Discovery. They may well not have.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:09 AM (avHHk)
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Hollywood is finished. It sure looks like Zaslav strip-mined it and laughed all the way to the bank, but that is also probably all WB was good for. It was a dead letter, and what happened to WB is what is going to happen to the rest of Hollywood. Hollywood is down to asset value now, and people with money are going to extract those assets and throw the rest on the bonfire. The industry is dead, and the vultures will pick over the carcass.
Strip-mining is much more harmful when it takes out a going concern.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (avHHk)
I for one welcome the AI movie industry.
Fewer child rapes.
Strip-mining is much more harmful when it takes out a going concern.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (avHHk)
I for one welcome the AI movie industry.
Fewer child rapes.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:10 AM (dGCAG)
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is selling off the remainder to someone who will finish strip-mining it."
And at a higher value than not long ago... IIRC, it was around $10/ share, and the offers are at what, $30?
*cries all the way to the bank*
And at a higher value than not long ago... IIRC, it was around $10/ share, and the offers are at what, $30?
*cries all the way to the bank*
Posted by: man at December 22, 2025 11:10 AM (XuXeR)
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17 Corporate boards are pretty spineless.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
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I'm not sure if it's spineless or if it's all collusory at this point.
Corporate board-sitting is a literal circle-jerk of lefty cucks that all trade each other the favors of being on each others' boards, and it's little surprise to me when they hire a CEO from within their own Club and then pay that person an insane amount of money to fuck everything up.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
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I'm not sure if it's spineless or if it's all collusory at this point.
Corporate board-sitting is a literal circle-jerk of lefty cucks that all trade each other the favors of being on each others' boards, and it's little surprise to me when they hire a CEO from within their own Club and then pay that person an insane amount of money to fuck everything up.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
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temu-chemjeff in the house! are all people from missouri like this ?
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (van9r)
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28 Corporate board-sitting is a literal circle-jerk of lefty cucks that all trade each other the favors of being on each others' boards, and it's little surprise to me when they hire a CEO from within their own Club and then pay that person an insane amount of money to fuck everything up.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
Weirdly, Lefties think that Zaslav is a right-winger.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
Weirdly, Lefties think that Zaslav is a right-winger.
Posted by: XTC at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (UnA8+)
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If corporate boards don’t start putting some controls on parasitic executive behavior, people will start voting for politicians who will.
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The Boards won't. Shareholder elections are controlled by a handful of investment banks and retirement portfolio managers. The "public" who votes for socialism won't get it, either - they'll get even more cronyism. Too much money to raked off.
Accountability is the secret, and that is why no law will ever be passed - or observed - to increase it. Pass-through voting would be a good start. Shares owned by proxy (for example, in your retirement portfolio) should be voted by the owners of the underlying asset, not the fund manager. Pass through and tabulate fractional votes. If the person doesn't vote his interest, the vote is not cast.
Might be a way to start.
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The Boards won't. Shareholder elections are controlled by a handful of investment banks and retirement portfolio managers. The "public" who votes for socialism won't get it, either - they'll get even more cronyism. Too much money to raked off.
Accountability is the secret, and that is why no law will ever be passed - or observed - to increase it. Pass-through voting would be a good start. Shares owned by proxy (for example, in your retirement portfolio) should be voted by the owners of the underlying asset, not the fund manager. Pass through and tabulate fractional votes. If the person doesn't vote his interest, the vote is not cast.
Might be a way to start.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (avHHk)
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So ... The Brown and MIT shooter(s) is gonna be like the Las Vegas shooter, right? We are gonna be told nothing but lies and never know the truth. Right?
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM
Yep. Get used to disappointment.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:06 AM
Yep. Get used to disappointment.
Posted by: Dread Pirate Westley at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (P5BPp)
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A subject that I frequently re-visit is corporations that are mismanaged into financial and operational crises while leadership lavishly rewards itself.
The BoD allows it.
The BoD allows it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (dAOkg)
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One of the things that hampered Discovery was the Summer of St. Floyd. They had a runaway smash hit with Live PD. It was the biggest show on cable and it just ended because Marxists suck.
That'll throw a wrench into the operation.
That'll throw a wrench into the operation.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (pIfcn)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (L/fGl)
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> According to The Hollywood Reporter, upon the sale of Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million. Several of Zaslav’s top lieutenants will also receive golden parachutes worth in excess of $100 million
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Makes some of the Disney horseshit seem... timid.
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Makes some of the Disney horseshit seem... timid.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2025 11:13 AM (NwnyJ)
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A subject that I frequently re-visit is corporations that are mismanaged into financial and operational crises while leadership lavishly rewards itself.
The BoD allows it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (dAOkg)
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They demand it. The boards of directors are serving different interests.
The BoD allows it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2025 11:12 AM (dAOkg)
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They demand it. The boards of directors are serving different interests.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:13 AM (avHHk)
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Corporate board-sitting is a literal circle-jerk of lefty cucks that all trade each other the favors of being on each others' boards, and it's little surprise to me when they hire a CEO from within their own Club and then pay that person an insane amount of money to fuck everything up.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
Vampires have higher ethical standards.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
Vampires have higher ethical standards.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:13 AM (dGCAG)
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corporations that are mismanaged into financial and operational crises while leadership lavishly rewards itself."
So, Gerald Levin...
So, Gerald Levin...
Posted by: man at December 22, 2025 11:13 AM (XuXeR)
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Corporate board-sitting is a literal circle-jerk of lefty cucks that all trade each other the favors of being on each others' boards, and it's little surprise to me when they hire a CEO from within their own Club and then pay that person an insane amount of money to fuck everything up.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
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Look at overlapping membership for an eye-opener. Steve Jobs was on the boards of Apple, Disney and several other major firms simultaneously. Who's interests was he representing?
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:11 AM (5aZAZ)
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Look at overlapping membership for an eye-opener. Steve Jobs was on the boards of Apple, Disney and several other major firms simultaneously. Who's interests was he representing?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
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The shareholders approved the original acquisition and will have to approve any sale to NF (or whoever). Don't cry for them. They got what they voted for.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (iFTx/)
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This isn't a class warfare statement, but I do think we need to be attacking those 'above us' like crooked tech bros and corporate honchos more than we need to be attacking pink haired tranny freakshows.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (xcxpd)
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Insomnia if your a midshift person means your awake during the day. So, I'm here. Awake. Need to take the car to the tire place anyway. Slow leak. Ran over something Saturday morning. Not sure what. It was dark. Whatever it was, it made a loud pop followed by shattered glass sound. Few minutes later, the TPMS let me know my tire pressure was a problem. The perils of city living I guess.
Didn't WB have a problem with there older DVDs due to being cheaply made and rotting in a few years. I've run into that myself. Can't remember if it was WB, Paramount, or some other company.
Didn't WB have a problem with there older DVDs due to being cheaply made and rotting in a few years. I've run into that myself. Can't remember if it was WB, Paramount, or some other company.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 22, 2025 11:15 AM (sAmhv)
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According to The Hollywood Reporter, upon the sale of Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million
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Nice work if you can get it.
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Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 22, 2025 11:15 AM (+HNx/)
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...in which it appears to be relatively easy for a group of insiders to take over a successful business and loot it for their own benefit, with no observable repercussions to themselves. In fact, with great personal profit to themselves.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 11:09 AM
I resemble that remark.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 11:09 AM
I resemble that remark.
Posted by: Carlos Taveras at December 22, 2025 11:15 AM (P5BPp)
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And, not to defend Zaslav, but the previous Warner Brother's heads were worse. Not only greedy but also ideologically corrosive.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 22, 2025 11:15 AM (xcxpd)
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To keep the socialists at bay, there is an obligation for us free marketeers to police those who are accessing levers of power to extract wealth rather than create wealth.
It's not clear to me what I can do to "police" corporate shenanigans except to not give them my money. But I can certainly do that.
It's not clear to me what I can do to "police" corporate shenanigans except to not give them my money. But I can certainly do that.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 22, 2025 11:17 AM (3nLb4)
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Unfortunately this sort of behavior might be encouraged by Normies using mutual funds for their investments. They are good things, don't get me wrong. Day trading is a good way to have an early heart attack. But it basically gives your money to other people to play with. As long as the basket of companies your mutual fund invests in turns a profit this quarter, you are unlikely to look hard at who they are investing in and what they are demanding (ESG) in return for their investment.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 22, 2025 11:17 AM (UdiE9)
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Didn't WB have a problem with there older DVDs due to being cheaply made and rotting in a few years."
Yeah. Disc rot
Yeah. Disc rot
Posted by: man at December 22, 2025 11:17 AM (XuXeR)
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This isn't a class warfare statement, but I do think we need to be attacking those 'above us' like crooked tech bros and corporate honchos more than we need to be attacking pink haired tranny freakshows.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (xcxpd)
Corporatism is absolutely not a "conservative" principle, but for too long people who would otherwise understand that greed and screwing over "the little guy" are not positions that are morally defensible, had a kneejerk reaction to anything that was critical of business.
It's been more of a Yes, And situation for quite some time now. Idiot labor leaders killed industries in this country. And so did greedy bastard immoral business leaders.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (xcxpd)
Corporatism is absolutely not a "conservative" principle, but for too long people who would otherwise understand that greed and screwing over "the little guy" are not positions that are morally defensible, had a kneejerk reaction to anything that was critical of business.
It's been more of a Yes, And situation for quite some time now. Idiot labor leaders killed industries in this country. And so did greedy bastard immoral business leaders.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (dGCAG)
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The Brown and MIT shooter(s) is gonna be like the Las Vegas shooter, right? We are gonna be told nothing but lies and never know the truth. Right?
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
See also: The Butler shooter.
I'm so sick of this shit.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
See also: The Butler shooter.
I'm so sick of this shit.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)
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ot: Catching a frisbee with the back of your head equals instant sainthood.
Posted by: DaveA at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (FhXTo)
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If I was as bad at my job as Zavlas was at his I’d have been unceremoniously canned long ago. There is collusion with the board (either planned or just look the other way). Hard to believe shareholders would vote for this if shareholder voting made sense… I suspect it doesn’t
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (xT8gx)
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>>>To keep the socialists at bay, there is an obligation for us free marketeers to police those who are accessing levers of power to extract wealth rather than create wealth. If corporate boards don’t start putting some controls on parasitic executive behavior, people will start voting for politicians who will.
I am having trouble motivating any Fs to give themselves on behalf of a big player in an industry trying to groom my kids or have them trans themselves.
There was an FTC story in the tech thread about regulatory capture, and it does not matter if people will vote for pols that want some controls on parasitic executive behavior.
They, too, will get their grift, the regulators will become captured, and the bigs like WB will receive protection and regulatory and statutory carve outs, while the small players will dutifully surrender their scalps for the benefit of their grandstanding pols.
Sorry for the early Monday morning black pills, but it is what it is.
I am having trouble motivating any Fs to give themselves on behalf of a big player in an industry trying to groom my kids or have them trans themselves.
There was an FTC story in the tech thread about regulatory capture, and it does not matter if people will vote for pols that want some controls on parasitic executive behavior.
They, too, will get their grift, the regulators will become captured, and the bigs like WB will receive protection and regulatory and statutory carve outs, while the small players will dutifully surrender their scalps for the benefit of their grandstanding pols.
Sorry for the early Monday morning black pills, but it is what it is.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (dK+Kv)
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It is interesting, stock has evolved in a way for stock ownership to be way, way more common. I think 50% or so of the population owns stock, at least in a 401K. And this is made a ton of money for those people - averaging around 10% a year in returns.
But I think it has also made it easier for mismanagement and corruption to grown in public companies since the institutional investors through which much of this stock is held don't really care.
But I think it has also made it easier for mismanagement and corruption to grown in public companies since the institutional investors through which much of this stock is held don't really care.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:19 AM (sKqQm)
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To keep the socialists at bay, there is an obligation for us free marketeers to police those who are accessing levers of power to extract wealth rather than create wealth. If corporate boards don’t start putting some controls on parasitic executive behavior, people will start voting for politicians who will
The problem with that statement is most of those people on boards seem to be aligned with those socialists...
The problem with that statement is most of those people on boards seem to be aligned with those socialists...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
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I'm fine with people, who are motivated (not necessarily greedy) making a shit ton of money with shrewd investments and talented employees producing a product that is desirable.
I would invest thusly.
But this is sadly not the case.
I would invest thusly.
But this is sadly not the case.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2025 11:20 AM (NwnyJ)
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A subject that I frequently re-visit is corporations that are mismanaged into financial and operational crises while leadership lavishly rewards itself.
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I often jump in to discussions to correct people who blame things on Boomers. Usually they are using something which really predated us, and which we bought uncritically, as the sheep we are.
But, oddly enough, this is not often enough blamed on us. The Rip-off Generation continued to hold to its All About (and for) ME attitude. We were the scum that added that to the standard of business practice. Previously, while that sort of thing did happen, it was disapproved of. It was in the late 70s or 80s that this sort of grasping attitude started being preached by management. (For some reason they didn't approve of a lack of loyalty by employees, and didn't see why that happened.)
Anyway, I will insist, this is the real damage the Baby Boom has done to us.
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I often jump in to discussions to correct people who blame things on Boomers. Usually they are using something which really predated us, and which we bought uncritically, as the sheep we are.
But, oddly enough, this is not often enough blamed on us. The Rip-off Generation continued to hold to its All About (and for) ME attitude. We were the scum that added that to the standard of business practice. Previously, while that sort of thing did happen, it was disapproved of. It was in the late 70s or 80s that this sort of grasping attitude started being preached by management. (For some reason they didn't approve of a lack of loyalty by employees, and didn't see why that happened.)
Anyway, I will insist, this is the real damage the Baby Boom has done to us.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2025 11:21 AM (s0JqF)
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Instead of "creative destruction" this is "destruction of creative".
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 11:21 AM (f9NFV)
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But where does that leave Mr. Zaslav and his executive team? Don’t worry, they’ll be fine.
Given money like that, and that number of layoffs, I'm sure they can afford excellent security. They many need it.
Given money like that, and that number of layoffs, I'm sure they can afford excellent security. They many need it.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (2WIwB)
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Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million
Get into a position of trust, make the laws, make the rules, follow them to a 't'. THAT is how you do crime, folks.
Get into a position of trust, make the laws, make the rules, follow them to a 't'. THAT is how you do crime, folks.
Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (yurXG)
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Over the following three years, Warner Bros Discovery lost over $21 billion.
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"Pikers!"
-- Ford Motor Company
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"Pikers!"
-- Ford Motor Company
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (wIAtt)
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The problem with that statement is most of those people on boards seem to be aligned with those socialists...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
I don't believe these people are socialists, in the sense that they have beliefs and values that align with socialism.
I think they stuck their fingers in the air, and misinterpreted the past decade or so, in thinking the country was moving leftward.
It will be interesting to see if they figure out that tranny love and other assorted nonsense doesn't sell.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
I don't believe these people are socialists, in the sense that they have beliefs and values that align with socialism.
I think they stuck their fingers in the air, and misinterpreted the past decade or so, in thinking the country was moving leftward.
It will be interesting to see if they figure out that tranny love and other assorted nonsense doesn't sell.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (dGCAG)
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What happened to "It's a write off Jerry. They just write it off."?
Posted by: Case at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (G1OIb)
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A couple basic corporate reforms I would like to see:
1) People who hold shares indirectly still get to vote at corporate elections (eg Joe Smith not Fidelity)
2) You can be on only one board at a time and you cannot be a C level official at another company at the same time
1) People who hold shares indirectly still get to vote at corporate elections (eg Joe Smith not Fidelity)
2) You can be on only one board at a time and you cannot be a C level official at another company at the same time
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)
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I often jump in to discussions to correct people who blame things on Boomers. Usually they are using something which really predated us, and which we bought uncritically, as the sheep we are.
Posted by: Eeyore
The Boomers are responsible for the Black Death!
Posted by: Eeyore
The Boomers are responsible for the Black Death!
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:23 AM (77rzZ)
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I find it interesting all these lefty execs always act like the caricature capitalists Leftists rail about.
Projection ain't just how the movie gets on the big screen. (Or how it used to. I figure cinema multiplexes have less than a decade, tops.)
Projection ain't just how the movie gets on the big screen. (Or how it used to. I figure cinema multiplexes have less than a decade, tops.)
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 22, 2025 11:24 AM (OUMaO)
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According to The Hollywood Reporter, upon the sale of Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity, for a total golden parachute of $567 million
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Yeah? Well . . .
Musk Becomes First Person Worth $700 Billion After Court Restores Tesla Pay Package
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Yeah? Well . . .
Musk Becomes First Person Worth $700 Billion After Court Restores Tesla Pay Package
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:24 AM (L/fGl)
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What happened to "It's a write off Jerry. They just write it off."?
Posted by: Case at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (G1OIb)
In this case, it's true.
It should only get posted when it's not.
Posted by: Case at December 22, 2025 11:22 AM (G1OIb)
In this case, it's true.
It should only get posted when it's not.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:24 AM (dGCAG)
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I don't believe these people are socialists, in the sense that they have beliefs and values that align with socialism.
I think they stuck their fingers in the air, and misinterpreted the past decade or so, in thinking the country was moving leftward.
In this case it doesn't matter why they are allied with the left, just that they are. And, TBH, I think very few leftists elites believe in any of the crap they spew anyway - its all a way to get money and power.
I think they stuck their fingers in the air, and misinterpreted the past decade or so, in thinking the country was moving leftward.
In this case it doesn't matter why they are allied with the left, just that they are. And, TBH, I think very few leftists elites believe in any of the crap they spew anyway - its all a way to get money and power.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:25 AM (sKqQm)
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It will be interesting to see if they figure out that tranny love and other assorted nonsense doesn't sell.
Posted by: BurtTC
Given all the parasitic hiring of the past decade, I wonder how much influence executives actually have anymore at such places...
Posted by: BurtTC
Given all the parasitic hiring of the past decade, I wonder how much influence executives actually have anymore at such places...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 22, 2025 11:26 AM (OUMaO)
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If I was as bad at my job as Zavlas was at his I’d have been unceremoniously canned long ago. There is collusion with the board (either planned or just look the other way). Hard to believe shareholders would vote for this if shareholder voting made sense… I suspect it doesn’t
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (xT8gx)
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The jury is out on that. Assuming that the deal actually happens, WBD is selling the former WB to Netflix for around $83 billion. Discovery bought Warner Brothers for $43 billion plus a bunch of debt. I didn't find a breakout of that, but based on before-and-after debt loads, it was probably in the neighborhood of $30 billion. So call it $80 billion total, which is probably pessimistic.
$3 billion in profit on that investment over four years, after shutting off most of the bleeding at a failing enterprise and selling the remains. That is not a stupendous return - the acquisition was probably, in retrospect, a bad idea - but it doesn't appear to be a disaster (except for WB, of course, but WB was failing in the first place, which is why AT&T stripped it out and sold it in the first place, to throw much-needed capital at its own stupendous debt)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 22, 2025 11:18 AM (xT8gx)
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The jury is out on that. Assuming that the deal actually happens, WBD is selling the former WB to Netflix for around $83 billion. Discovery bought Warner Brothers for $43 billion plus a bunch of debt. I didn't find a breakout of that, but based on before-and-after debt loads, it was probably in the neighborhood of $30 billion. So call it $80 billion total, which is probably pessimistic.
$3 billion in profit on that investment over four years, after shutting off most of the bleeding at a failing enterprise and selling the remains. That is not a stupendous return - the acquisition was probably, in retrospect, a bad idea - but it doesn't appear to be a disaster (except for WB, of course, but WB was failing in the first place, which is why AT&T stripped it out and sold it in the first place, to throw much-needed capital at its own stupendous debt)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:26 AM (avHHk)
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In this case it doesn't matter why they are allied with the left, just that they are. And, TBH, I think very few leftists elites believe in any of the crap they spew anyway - its all a way to get money and power.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:25 AM (sKqQm)
Agreed. I just wonder if they will take their fingers out of their own arseholes, put them in the air, notice the wind direction change, and change with it.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:25 AM (sKqQm)
Agreed. I just wonder if they will take their fingers out of their own arseholes, put them in the air, notice the wind direction change, and change with it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:27 AM (dGCAG)
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So David Zaslav is a greedy asshole now? It wasn't long ago that he was getting praised here for trying to turn around a failing woke enterprise. I stayed out of that discussion because I know these guys are all the same.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
Who praised Zaslav?
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
Who praised Zaslav?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 22, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)
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FWIW, WBD stock price is highest since 2022, so...
Posted by: man at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (XuXeR)
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Why would anyone want to buy WB. Let your competition die and go in and pick up the pieces for cheap. I think it's financially reckless to pay this much money for WB.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (KDPiq)
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A friend of mine works for a company involved in this bidding and suggests also adding up the investment banking fees paid by WBD during the Zaslov era. He bets it totals over a half billion.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (e87dM)
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I find it interesting all these lefty execs always act like the caricature capitalists Leftists rail about.
The idea you shouldn't abuse your position for money, power and sex is an explicitly rightwing idea.
As our elites have moved left they've also become more corrupt. With no God, and traditional morality something they see as a joke, why wouldn't they?
The idea you shouldn't abuse your position for money, power and sex is an explicitly rightwing idea.
As our elites have moved left they've also become more corrupt. With no God, and traditional morality something they see as a joke, why wouldn't they?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (sKqQm)
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Given all the parasitic hiring of the past decade, I wonder how much influence executives actually have anymore at such places...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 22, 2025 11:26 AM (OUMaO)
I believe we live in a caste society. I would imagine lots of big company execs are not top tier.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 22, 2025 11:26 AM (OUMaO)
I believe we live in a caste society. I would imagine lots of big company execs are not top tier.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (dGCAG)
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Who praised Zaslav?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 22, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)
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I did. he came in and made much-needed cuts and major changes to try to turn Warner around. He was not entirely unsuccessful, and got rid of a lot of abject shit in WB's pipeline. He failed with CNN. The entire acquisition didn't work out, so he's unloading it to someone else who can strip it more effectively in a deal that is unlikely to make the final balance negative for Discovery. Not a good investment, not a disaster. I had hope that he would turn WB around. He either couldn't or didn't, but this is not going to be a tremendous loss for Discovery and the whole exercise may balance out to a modest profit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 22, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)
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I did. he came in and made much-needed cuts and major changes to try to turn Warner around. He was not entirely unsuccessful, and got rid of a lot of abject shit in WB's pipeline. He failed with CNN. The entire acquisition didn't work out, so he's unloading it to someone else who can strip it more effectively in a deal that is unlikely to make the final balance negative for Discovery. Not a good investment, not a disaster. I had hope that he would turn WB around. He either couldn't or didn't, but this is not going to be a tremendous loss for Discovery and the whole exercise may balance out to a modest profit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:30 AM (avHHk)
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Look at overlapping membership for an eye-opener. Steve Jobs was on the boards of Apple, Disney and several other major firms simultaneously. Who's interests was he representing?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
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Exactly! Corporate boards nowadays are less independent groups of industry or financial experts that are tasked with growing a company and safeguarding shareholder value than they are a hot tub full of swingers who swap back and forth all the time without regard for whose interests they're serving.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
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Exactly! Corporate boards nowadays are less independent groups of industry or financial experts that are tasked with growing a company and safeguarding shareholder value than they are a hot tub full of swingers who swap back and forth all the time without regard for whose interests they're serving.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:30 AM (5aZAZ)
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Why would anyone want to buy WB. Let your competition die and go in and pick up the pieces for cheap. I think it's financially reckless to pay this much money for WB.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (KDPiq)
If I had all the money in the world, I would buy the Looney Toons libarry, then all their classic films.
Then I'd hide them away for about a decade or so.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:28 AM (KDPiq)
If I had all the money in the world, I would buy the Looney Toons libarry, then all their classic films.
Then I'd hide them away for about a decade or so.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:30 AM (dGCAG)
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If corporate boards don’t start putting some controls on parasitic executive behavior, people will start voting for politicians who will.
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It's a conundrum. I mean, Mamdani, AOC, Warren, Sanders are the result of voting for those who ran on such issues.
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It's a conundrum. I mean, Mamdani, AOC, Warren, Sanders are the result of voting for those who ran on such issues.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (A0sqA)
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Honest question: Were any of the movie studios of the Golden Age of Hollywood publicly traded, or were they privately owned? What was the first studio to be publicly traded, and when?
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)
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The Principal-Agent problem in corporate America has steadily been getting worse and no one is addressing it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (cuae1)
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"Zaslav will receive $30 million in cash plus another $537 million in equity"
I believe the equity part is based on sale to NF (or whoever) of the stock in WBD he owns or has options to.
This isn't NF just handing him over $500M. If you own stock (or have access to options) in a company that gets sold, your shares -- like all stockholders' shares -- get sold at whatever price the sale is valued at.
I'm not defending this guy. They're all creeps. I'm just saying that what's going on here is not unusual or nefarious at all.
I believe the equity part is based on sale to NF (or whoever) of the stock in WBD he owns or has options to.
This isn't NF just handing him over $500M. If you own stock (or have access to options) in a company that gets sold, your shares -- like all stockholders' shares -- get sold at whatever price the sale is valued at.
I'm not defending this guy. They're all creeps. I'm just saying that what's going on here is not unusual or nefarious at all.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (iFTx/)
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Agreed. I just wonder if they will take their fingers out of their own arseholes, put them in the air, notice the wind direction change, and change with it.
Have the winds changed yet though? Ignoring moral questions if you were a VP at a globocorp right now does the path forward look easier if you still go with the generally leftwing corporate line or buck it?
Because TBH it looks to me like the former is still true...
Have the winds changed yet though? Ignoring moral questions if you were a VP at a globocorp right now does the path forward look easier if you still go with the generally leftwing corporate line or buck it?
Because TBH it looks to me like the former is still true...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (sKqQm)
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Exactly! Corporate boards nowadays are less independent groups of industry or financial experts that are tasked with growing a company and safeguarding shareholder value than they are a hot tub full of swingers who swap back and forth all the time without regard for whose interests they're serving.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:30 AM (5aZAZ)
Literally and figuratively.
Posted by: ballistic at December 22, 2025 11:30 AM (5aZAZ)
Literally and figuratively.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (dGCAG)
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How much has Musk lost for overpaying for Twitter? Thank god it wasn't a financial decision for him.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (KDPiq)
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🚀 Ten years ago today, SpaceX changed the future of spaceflight. For the first time in history, an orbital-class rocket booster—the first stage of a Falcon 9—successfully returned to Earth and landed upright at Cape Canaveral after delivering its payload to space.
Until then, every rocket used to reach orbit had been single-use—discarded into the ocean or burned up in the atmosphere. But with this feat, SpaceX proved that rockets could be reused, dramatically reducing the cost of space access and bringing humanity a step closer to routine, sustainable space travel.
Until then, every rocket used to reach orbit had been single-use—discarded into the ocean or burned up in the atmosphere. But with this feat, SpaceX proved that rockets could be reused, dramatically reducing the cost of space access and bringing humanity a step closer to routine, sustainable space travel.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (dAOkg)
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If I had all the money in the world, I would buy the Looney Toons library
Posted by: BurtTC
Doesn't Disney own those now?
Posted by: BurtTC
Doesn't Disney own those now?
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (77rzZ)
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Shareholders rejected the comp. But it was non-binding , apparently. The Board's Executive Compensation Committee thanked them, and then ignored them.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:33 AM (g47mK)
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Have the winds changed yet though? Ignoring moral questions if you were a VP at a globocorp right now does the path forward look easier if you still go with the generally leftwing corporate line or buck it?
Because TBH it looks to me like the former is still true...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (sKqQm)
I don't know. I want to think it has.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Because TBH it looks to me like the former is still true...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:31 AM (sKqQm)
I don't know. I want to think it has.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:33 AM (dGCAG)
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Steve Jobs was on the boards of Apple, Disney and several other major firms simultaneously. Who's interests was he representing?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
Steve Jobs
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
Steve Jobs
Posted by: ... at December 22, 2025 11:33 AM (2fdLC)
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Doesn't Disney own those now?
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (77rzZ)
I don't think so? But I don't know.
The Borg is ever hungry.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (77rzZ)
I don't think so? But I don't know.
The Borg is ever hungry.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:34 AM (dGCAG)
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did ace fix his computer ???
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:34 AM (g47mK)
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How much has Musk lost for overpaying for Twitter? Thank god it wasn't a financial decision for him.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (KDPiq)
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No way to know. It isn't traded any more, and its books aren't public as a result. Some information can be inferred through Musk's other enterprises, but nothing concrete.
At least some, possibly a lot. But Musk, as you point out, wasn't making a purely financial decision. Vengeance was involved, as was his sometimes crazy-sounding future plans. If he succeeds in making X the "everything app" at the center of a lot of other things, it could end up being profitable many years down the line. But that's all hand-wavy future stuff.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:32 AM (KDPiq)
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No way to know. It isn't traded any more, and its books aren't public as a result. Some information can be inferred through Musk's other enterprises, but nothing concrete.
At least some, possibly a lot. But Musk, as you point out, wasn't making a purely financial decision. Vengeance was involved, as was his sometimes crazy-sounding future plans. If he succeeds in making X the "everything app" at the center of a lot of other things, it could end up being profitable many years down the line. But that's all hand-wavy future stuff.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:34 AM (avHHk)
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The Principal-Agent problem in corporate America has steadily been getting worse and no one is addressing it.
I think the problem is collectively we tried something - moving significant C-level compensation to stock and tied to stock price performance.
But this just focuses those C-level people on stock value, not real corporate value, and they are then only focused on whatever time period they will be at that company.
I think the problem is collectively we tried something - moving significant C-level compensation to stock and tied to stock price performance.
But this just focuses those C-level people on stock value, not real corporate value, and they are then only focused on whatever time period they will be at that company.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:34 AM (sKqQm)
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I worked for a company that went into Receivership about a year after the former CEO got a big golden parachute after running the company into the ground looking for short term profits.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:35 AM (KDPiq)
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This brunette on a boat has heard of Warner Brothers:
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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> I find it interesting all these lefty execs always act like the caricature capitalists Leftists rail about.
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Probably should point this out periodically. This is exactly how the left operates.
Everything they touch turns to shit.
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Probably should point this out periodically. This is exactly how the left operates.
Everything they touch turns to shit.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (NwnyJ)
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Despite the rolling financial catastrophe at Warner Bros Discovery, Mr. Zaslav continued to be richly compensated. Over the past three full years, his total compensation exceeded $140 million. In 2024 alone, a year that WBD suffered an $11 billion loss on declining revenue, Mr. Zaslav was rewarded with total compensation of $52 million.
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Well, he's no Nanzi Pelosi!
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Well, he's no Nanzi Pelosi!
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (yQuiz)
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I worked for a company that went into Receivership about a year after the former CEO got a big golden parachute after running the company into the ground looking for short term profits.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:35 AM (KDPiq)
Tommy Boy was a documentary.
Until the end, when he saved the company and got the girl.
That was pure fantasy.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 22, 2025 11:35 AM (KDPiq)
Tommy Boy was a documentary.
Until the end, when he saved the company and got the girl.
That was pure fantasy.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:37 AM (dGCAG)
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I was looking at my ETF that trades based on Nazi Pelosi's trades.
It only beat the market by 5% this year.
The old bird is apparently getting worse at picking stocks, or you, lost some of the political power that made her stock picks work...
It only beat the market by 5% this year.
The old bird is apparently getting worse at picking stocks, or you, lost some of the political power that made her stock picks work...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (sKqQm)
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This brunette on a boat has heard of Warner Brothers:
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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That girl was never on that boat (that seems an obvious superimpose) but ... TBWB
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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That girl was never on that boat (that seems an obvious superimpose) but ... TBWB
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
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Exactly! Corporate boards nowadays are less independent groups of industry or financial experts that are tasked with growing a company and safeguarding shareholder value than they are a hot tub full of swingers who swap back and forth all the time without regard for whose interests they're serving.
Posted by: ballistic
Just checked my own MIC company. 7 of the 10 are on other boards, even though our own bylaws limit that to no more than 4 in other boards. At least none of them are on other MIC company BoDs.
Exactly! Corporate boards nowadays are less independent groups of industry or financial experts that are tasked with growing a company and safeguarding shareholder value than they are a hot tub full of swingers who swap back and forth all the time without regard for whose interests they're serving.
Posted by: ballistic
Just checked my own MIC company. 7 of the 10 are on other boards, even though our own bylaws limit that to no more than 4 in other boards. At least none of them are on other MIC company BoDs.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (QVmho)
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If a Warner brother went on a drug induced murder spree, would the other smuggle him out of the country?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
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You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Posted by: BurtTC
On Saturday I attended a memorial service for our neighbor who died just before Thanksgiving. She was a big fan of classic rock, and apparently one of her and her husband's favorite songs was "Imagine."
Very weird to be at a memorial service presided over by a minister who had just spoken about our neighbor being in Heaven and then hearing "Imagine there's no Heaven."
But her husband started tearing up as it was playing, so it must have had some special significance for them both. Maybe it was "their song."
Posted by: BurtTC
On Saturday I attended a memorial service for our neighbor who died just before Thanksgiving. She was a big fan of classic rock, and apparently one of her and her husband's favorite songs was "Imagine."
Very weird to be at a memorial service presided over by a minister who had just spoken about our neighbor being in Heaven and then hearing "Imagine there's no Heaven."
But her husband started tearing up as it was playing, so it must have had some special significance for them both. Maybe it was "their song."
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)
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Look at overlapping membership for an eye-opener. Steve Jobs was on the boards of Apple, Disney and several other major firms simultaneously. Who's interests was he representing?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
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Since he was the largest individual investor in both Disney and Apple, his own.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:14 AM (avHHk)
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Since he was the largest individual investor in both Disney and Apple, his own.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 11:39 AM (Ki5ky)
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Another part in all this, one of the big things the left has done over the years is removed the idea of consequences from failures by the elites.
Lose a war? Bankrupt your company? Kill a group of peaceful dissidents in Texas....all while you were the leader? Well...it still isn't your fault. Obviously. You did all the things that a good leftwinger would do, so if it didn't work out it was just bad luck!
Lose a war? Bankrupt your company? Kill a group of peaceful dissidents in Texas....all while you were the leader? Well...it still isn't your fault. Obviously. You did all the things that a good leftwinger would do, so if it didn't work out it was just bad luck!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:40 AM (sKqQm)
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This brunette on a boat has heard of Warner Brothers:
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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That girl was never on that boat (that seems an obvious superimpose) but ... TBWB
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
SWB (So would Bulg.)
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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That girl was never on that boat (that seems an obvious superimpose) but ... TBWB
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
SWB (So would Bulg.)
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:40 AM (77rzZ)
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This brunette on a boat has heard of Warner Brothers:
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
Wrap her in a red ribbon and put her under my tree.
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
Wrap her in a red ribbon and put her under my tree.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 22, 2025 11:41 AM (2WIwB)
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🚀 Ten years ago today, SpaceX changed the future of spaceflight. For the first time in history, an orbital-class rocket booster—the first stage of a Falcon 9—successfully returned to Earth and landed upright at Cape Canaveral after delivering its payload to space.
Until then, every rocket used to reach orbit had been single-use—discarded into the ocean or burned up in the atmosphere. But with this feat, SpaceX proved that rockets could be reused, dramatically reducing the cost of space access and bringing humanity a step closer to routine, sustainable space travel.
Posted by: rickb223
The real trick is controlling and safely landing something with aerodynamics and terminal velocity of a brick.
I assume they piggy-backed on control tech for something like the F-22.
Until then, every rocket used to reach orbit had been single-use—discarded into the ocean or burned up in the atmosphere. But with this feat, SpaceX proved that rockets could be reused, dramatically reducing the cost of space access and bringing humanity a step closer to routine, sustainable space travel.
Posted by: rickb223
The real trick is controlling and safely landing something with aerodynamics and terminal velocity of a brick.
I assume they piggy-backed on control tech for something like the F-22.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 22, 2025 11:41 AM (/lPRQ)
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Wrap her in a red ribbon and put her under my tree.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 22, 2025 11:41 AM (2WIwB)
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Never! Orange ribbons only!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 22, 2025 11:41 AM (2WIwB)
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Never! Orange ribbons only!
Posted by: Contrarian at December 22, 2025 11:42 AM (avHHk)
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I was looking at my ETF that trades based on Nazi Pelosi's trades.
It only beat the market by 5% this year.
The old bird is apparently getting worse at picking stocks, or you, lost some of the political power that made her stock picks work...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (sKqQm)
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5% in the sense that the ETF returned Market Average + 5%, so if MA was 10% the ETF returned 15% (10+5)?
Or 5% in the sense that the ETF returned 5% of the total MA return, so if MA was 10% then the ETF returned 10.5 (10 + (10 x .5))?
If it's the former, that's a YUGE increase over MA. It's 50% more! Investors would kill for that.
It only beat the market by 5% this year.
The old bird is apparently getting worse at picking stocks, or you, lost some of the political power that made her stock picks work...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (sKqQm)
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5% in the sense that the ETF returned Market Average + 5%, so if MA was 10% the ETF returned 15% (10+5)?
Or 5% in the sense that the ETF returned 5% of the total MA return, so if MA was 10% then the ETF returned 10.5 (10 + (10 x .5))?
If it's the former, that's a YUGE increase over MA. It's 50% more! Investors would kill for that.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:42 AM (iFTx/)
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Vaudeville is poised for it's big comeback!
Posted by: Pantages Theatre Circuit at December 22, 2025 11:42 AM (oftw2)
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The transfer of wealth from WB to Zaslav is inspiring.
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Has anybody written a "Grift For Dummies" book yet?
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Has anybody written a "Grift For Dummies" book yet?
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 11:43 AM (yol/s)
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Wrap her in a red ribbon and put her under my tree.
Posted by: Diogenes
And ONLY in a red ribbon.
Posted by: Diogenes
And ONLY in a red ribbon.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)
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Why won't Bari Weiss let 60 Minutes run their anti-Trump propaganda?
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Imagine spending your life in journalism only to have some person float in to dictate what you can and can't report -- even though she's never broken a story or even reported -- and whose sole qualification is she is as devoted to Israel as the new family that just bought CBS:
Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Imagine spending your life in journalism only to have some person float in to dictate what you can and can't report -- even though she's never broken a story or even reported -- and whose sole qualification is she is as devoted to Israel as the new family that just bought CBS:
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)
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On Saturday I attended a memorial service for our neighbor who died just before Thanksgiving. She was a big fan of classic rock, and apparently one of her and her husband's favorite songs was "Imagine."
Very weird to be at a memorial service presided over by a minister who had just spoken about our neighbor being in Heaven and then hearing "Imagine there's no Heaven."
But her husband started tearing up as it was playing, so it must have had some special significance for them both. Maybe it was "their song."
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)
I don't put any stock in song lyrics. Most songwriters, like Lenin... oops, I mean Lennon, were stupid lefty douchebags, but like so many, he was a great artist.
It's a great song. Even though the lyrics are shite.
Very weird to be at a memorial service presided over by a minister who had just spoken about our neighbor being in Heaven and then hearing "Imagine there's no Heaven."
But her husband started tearing up as it was playing, so it must have had some special significance for them both. Maybe it was "their song."
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)
I don't put any stock in song lyrics. Most songwriters, like Lenin... oops, I mean Lennon, were stupid lefty douchebags, but like so many, he was a great artist.
It's a great song. Even though the lyrics are shite.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:44 AM (dGCAG)
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If it's the former, that's a YUGE increase over MA. It's 50% more! Investors would kill for that.
Her trades in past year where beating the market by many times more.
But yes, I think this ETF is a create choice and my third best pick of all time.
Her trades in past year where beating the market by many times more.
But yes, I think this ETF is a create choice and my third best pick of all time.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:44 AM (sKqQm)
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I find it interesting all these lefty execs always act like the caricature capitalists Leftists rail about.
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All their complaints are projection.
They know what they would do if they got the chance so they rail against everyone else for that. It's projection AND justification.
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All their complaints are projection.
They know what they would do if they got the chance so they rail against everyone else for that. It's projection AND justification.
Posted by: ... at December 22, 2025 11:45 AM (2fdLC)
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This brunette on a boat has heard of Warner Brothers:
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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Pontoons.
/Nice teeth!
http://tiny.cc/74rw001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:36 AM (avHHk)
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Pontoons.
/Nice teeth!
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 11:46 AM (yol/s)
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Another part in all this, one of the big things the left has done over the years is removed the idea of consequences from failures by the elites.
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Good observation. And not just for elites. They forced removal of any kind of standard (SAT, ACT) from college admissions for example. (Obviously employing SAT as a standard for college admission was an example of deplatforming and and assault on freedom of expression ! ) They also ruined many cities by removing any kind of consequence for bad behavior, plus removed cash bail. Obviously they tried to silence a freedom to express yourself by taking a few things at Louis Vuitton without paying for it.
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Good observation. And not just for elites. They forced removal of any kind of standard (SAT, ACT) from college admissions for example. (Obviously employing SAT as a standard for college admission was an example of deplatforming and and assault on freedom of expression ! ) They also ruined many cities by removing any kind of consequence for bad behavior, plus removed cash bail. Obviously they tried to silence a freedom to express yourself by taking a few things at Louis Vuitton without paying for it.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:46 AM (g47mK)
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Imagine spending your life in journalism only to have some person float in to dictate what you can and can't report -- even though she's never broken a story or even reported -- and whose sole qualification is she is as devoted to Israel as the new family that just bought CBS:
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)
Greenwald actually does some decent journalism.
Sometimes.
But he's still a silly stupid lefty. I wonder if he's truly perplexed at Bari Weiss having an agenda at CBS Nooz.
As if CBS was some bastion of journalistic principles before.
@ggreenwald
Imagine spending your life in journalism only to have some person float in to dictate what you can and can't report -- even though she's never broken a story or even reported -- and whose sole qualification is she is as devoted to Israel as the new family that just bought CBS:
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 22, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)
Greenwald actually does some decent journalism.
Sometimes.
But he's still a silly stupid lefty. I wonder if he's truly perplexed at Bari Weiss having an agenda at CBS Nooz.
As if CBS was some bastion of journalistic principles before.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:46 AM (dGCAG)
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That girl was never on that boat
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
What boat
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
What boat
Posted by: ... at December 22, 2025 11:47 AM (2fdLC)
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Also something tells me this girl doesn't need a boat to float
Posted by: ... at December 22, 2025 11:47 AM (2fdLC)
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Greenwald is reverting back to his complete idiot larval stage.
"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 11:48 AM (uWKK8)
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Oh, that thing with Weiss is precious. They had a hit piece on Trump's deportation ready to go, and she looked at it and said, no, you will get Trump people to respond. You will have a balance reporting on my watch. You will not call a criminal a migrant (she also objected to that) The reaction? Predictrable! "Whiiiiiine, it's all about Ishraeeeel" Whiiiiiiine".
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:49 AM (g47mK)
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Imagine spending your life in journalism only to have some person float in to dictate what you can and can't report...
Well yeah, that's kind of what it means to work for an organization. If you want to make those kind of decisions for yourself, work for yourself.
Well yeah, that's kind of what it means to work for an organization. If you want to make those kind of decisions for yourself, work for yourself.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 22, 2025 11:49 AM (3nLb4)
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All their complaints are projection.
They know what they would do if they got the chance so they rail against everyone else for that. It's projection AND justification.
Posted by: ... at December 22, 2025 11:45 AM (2fdLC)
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AND delusion.
They haven't been self-identifying as mentally ill for decades now for no reason.
They know what they would do if they got the chance so they rail against everyone else for that. It's projection AND justification.
Posted by: ... at December 22, 2025 11:45 AM (2fdLC)
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AND delusion.
They haven't been self-identifying as mentally ill for decades now for no reason.
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 11:49 AM (yol/s)
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"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
The tears over Bari's management style nourish my soul.
The tears over Bari's management style nourish my soul.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2025 11:50 AM (OPGS/)
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Greenwald is reverting back to his complete idiot larval stage.
"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 11:48 AM (uWKK
His objection (other than the Israel stuff) is that Bari Weiss is a stupid idiot, who's never done "real journalism."
People like Gleen do seem to live in a fantasy world of belief that corporate media is supposed to do journalism.
"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 11:48 AM (uWKK
His objection (other than the Israel stuff) is that Bari Weiss is a stupid idiot, who's never done "real journalism."
People like Gleen do seem to live in a fantasy world of belief that corporate media is supposed to do journalism.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)
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Well yeah, that's kind of what it means to work for an organization. If you want to make those kind of decisions for yourself, work for yourself./i]
This is a really good point.
At my job I regularly implement decisions I disagree with that come from above. And honestly some times those decisions are the right ones and I didn't have the full picture. And I assume this is normal for most people in any large organizations.
This is a really good point.
At my job I regularly implement decisions I disagree with that come from above. And honestly some times those decisions are the right ones and I didn't have the full picture. And I assume this is normal for most people in any large organizations.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:51 AM (sKqQm)
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Doesn't WBD own Bugs Bunny? I mean, this is totes oppression, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:52 AM (pLaQB)
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And I assume this is normal for most people in any large organizations.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:51 AM (sKqQm)
Like nazzie Germany!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 11:51 AM (sKqQm)
Like nazzie Germany!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:53 AM (dGCAG)
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"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
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"journalism". Heh, yeah sure. Good one.
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"journalism". Heh, yeah sure. Good one.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 11:53 AM (/VF+8)
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129 Greenwald is reverting back to his complete idiot larval stage.
"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
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The guy sips penis. Jeebus. You would looking for deep thoughts?
"imagine spending your life in journalism only to find out that you have to listen to your boss."
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The guy sips penis. Jeebus. You would looking for deep thoughts?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:53 AM (pLaQB)
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His objection (other than the Israel stuff) is that Bari Weiss is a stupid idiot, who's never done "real journalism."
People like Gleen do seem to live in a fantasy world of belief that corporate media is supposed to do journalism.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)
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Or that "real journalism" is some kind of good thing. Is it?
Anyone talking about "real" subjective professions - "real journalist" or "real historian" or "real political analyst" or the like - actually means "orthodox," which means "trained the same way I was, by the same people, in the same environment."
People like Gleen do seem to live in a fantasy world of belief that corporate media is supposed to do journalism.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)
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Or that "real journalism" is some kind of good thing. Is it?
Anyone talking about "real" subjective professions - "real journalist" or "real historian" or "real political analyst" or the like - actually means "orthodox," which means "trained the same way I was, by the same people, in the same environment."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:54 AM (avHHk)
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Doesn't WBD own Bugs Bunny? I mean, this is totes oppression, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:52 AM (pLaQB)
I would think they do, but yeah, if Dinsey owns them, that's because the Entertainment Industrial Complex is like a solar system, where everything that is not hammered down in a regular orbit will eventually get sucked into the fires.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:52 AM (pLaQB)
I would think they do, but yeah, if Dinsey owns them, that's because the Entertainment Industrial Complex is like a solar system, where everything that is not hammered down in a regular orbit will eventually get sucked into the fires.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:54 AM (dGCAG)
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I mean you really have to be as ghey as Greenwald, to link in your fevered brain Weiss putting a cabash on a hit piece from CBS on Trump to IShraeeeel.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:55 AM (g47mK)
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Or that "real journalism" is some kind of good thing. Is it?
Anyone talking about "real" subjective professions - "real journalist" or "real historian" or "real political analyst" or the like - actually means "orthodox," which means "trained the same way I was, by the same people, in the same environment."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:54 AM (avHHk)
Like so many things in this world, I believe "real journalism" is mostly myth.
Anyone talking about "real" subjective professions - "real journalist" or "real historian" or "real political analyst" or the like - actually means "orthodox," which means "trained the same way I was, by the same people, in the same environment."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:54 AM (avHHk)
Like so many things in this world, I believe "real journalism" is mostly myth.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:55 AM (dGCAG)
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Doesn't WBD own Bugs Bunny? I mean, this is totes oppression, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead
I thought that Looney Tunes had been bought by Disney, but I was wrong. Still owned by Warner Bros.
Posted by: Pudinhead
I thought that Looney Tunes had been bought by Disney, but I was wrong. Still owned by Warner Bros.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)
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His objection (other than the Israel stuff) is that Bari Weiss is a stupid idiot, who's never done "real journalism."
People like Gleen do seem to live in a fantasy world of belief that corporate media is supposed to do journalism.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)
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Or that "real journalism" is some kind of good thing. Is it?
Anyone talking about "real" subjective professions - "real journalist" or "real historian" or "real political analyst" or the like - actually means "orthodox," which means "trained the same way I was, by the same people, in the same environment."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:54 AM (avHHk)
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I hold "journalists" in less regard than I do hookers, OF THOTs, and diseased subway rats
People like Gleen do seem to live in a fantasy world of belief that corporate media is supposed to do journalism.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:50 AM (dGCAG)
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Or that "real journalism" is some kind of good thing. Is it?
Anyone talking about "real" subjective professions - "real journalist" or "real historian" or "real political analyst" or the like - actually means "orthodox," which means "trained the same way I was, by the same people, in the same environment."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:54 AM (avHHk)
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I hold "journalists" in less regard than I do hookers, OF THOTs, and diseased subway rats
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
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I mean you really have to be as ghey as Greenwald, to link in your fevered brain Weiss putting a cabash on a hit piece from CBS on Trump to IShraeeeel.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:55 AM (g47mK)
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Who you calling gay?!?!
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:55 AM (g47mK)
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Who you calling gay?!?!
Posted by: Qatucker Carlson at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (/VF+8)
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I hold "journalists" in less regard than I do hookers, OF THOTs, and diseased subway rats
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
Well sure. You can't put a condom on to protect you from journalists.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
Well sure. You can't put a condom on to protect you from journalists.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 11:57 AM (dGCAG)
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Like so many things in this world, I believe "real journalism" is mostly myth.
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Media/journalism is a Protection - Extortion Racket. Always has been. Always will be. One in a while the blind squirrel finds an acorn. It happens cuz magic and hungry squirrel.
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Media/journalism is a Protection - Extortion Racket. Always has been. Always will be. One in a while the blind squirrel finds an acorn. It happens cuz magic and hungry squirrel.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:57 AM (pLaQB)
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Unless of course, you want Trump to fail, you want Trump to have more "Maryland Dads" lawsuits mushroom and stop his successful deportations. WHich is exactly what they were planning.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:57 AM (g47mK)
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Do NOT compare us to journalists!
Posted by: Diseased subway rats at December 22, 2025 11:57 AM (u73oe)
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I did. he came in and made much-needed cuts and major changes to try to turn Warner around. He was not entirely unsuccessful, and got rid of a lot of abject shit in WB's pipeline. He failed with CNN.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
So nothing about woke shit, right?
Posted by: Joe Mannix
So nothing about woke shit, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 22, 2025 11:58 AM (mlg/3)
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I forget the sum they paid for Weiss, but it was stupendous.
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 11:58 AM (BI5O2)
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CBS has been Propaganda for so long it's actors have no earthly idea what "news" is or how to report it to a discerning audience.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 11:59 AM (/VF+8)
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I hold "journalists" in less regard than I do hookers, OF THOTs, and diseased subway rats
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
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You're generous.
The hookers at least provide an actual exchange of services for cash.
Even subway rats eat some of the trash.
OF THOTs are closer. Mediated prostitution-by-proxy is more akin to journalism.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
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You're generous.
The hookers at least provide an actual exchange of services for cash.
Even subway rats eat some of the trash.
OF THOTs are closer. Mediated prostitution-by-proxy is more akin to journalism.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 11:59 AM (avHHk)
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Media/journalism is a Protection - Extortion Racket. Always has been. Always will be. One in a while the blind squirrel finds an acorn. It happens cuz magic and hungry squirrel.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:57 AM (pLaQB)
There are people making a living these days as "independent journalists."
I'm sure most of them are still preening assholes, but some of them actually report things that are useful to know.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 11:57 AM (pLaQB)
There are people making a living these days as "independent journalists."
I'm sure most of them are still preening assholes, but some of them actually report things that are useful to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:00 PM (dGCAG)
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I mean you really have to be as ghey as Greenwald, to link in your fevered brain Weiss putting a cabash on a hit piece from CBS on Trump to IShraeeeel.
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:55 AM (g47mK)
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Will Trump still be blamed for everything wrong with the universe in 3000 years?
If so, maybe Israel will finally get cut some slack ...
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 11:55 AM (g47mK)
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Will Trump still be blamed for everything wrong with the universe in 3000 years?
If so, maybe Israel will finally get cut some slack ...
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:00 PM (yol/s)
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Amusingly "real journalism" in this context is not only something people won't pay for but explicitly something that "challenges their beliefs"
Posted by: 18-1 at December 22, 2025 12:00 PM (sKqQm)
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I'm sure most of them are still preening assholes, but some of them actually report things that are useful to know.
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Hungry blind squirrel and magic - an acorn appears.
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Hungry blind squirrel and magic - an acorn appears.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:01 PM (pLaQB)
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I hold "journalists" in less regard than I do hookers, OF THOTs, and diseased subway rats
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
Had a discussion a while back with my dad regarding journalists. A cousin of mine has been in the media for a long time. I told him this: "I love her dearly since she's family. But the very instant, I had to deal with her in a professional setting that trust is gone. I would have three recording devices ready to go and I would upload the entire interview to counter her or her boss editing what I say."
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade
Had a discussion a while back with my dad regarding journalists. A cousin of mine has been in the media for a long time. I told him this: "I love her dearly since she's family. But the very instant, I had to deal with her in a professional setting that trust is gone. I would have three recording devices ready to go and I would upload the entire interview to counter her or her boss editing what I say."
Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2025 12:01 PM (OPGS/)
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I forget the sum they paid for Weiss, but it was stupendous.
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 11:58 AM (BI5O2)
It seems like an odd choice, but I have no doubt she's more than willing to whore herself to the powers that be.
Her problem is she's a nitwit. She'll do something to piss them off, then they'll get rid of her.
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 11:58 AM (BI5O2)
It seems like an odd choice, but I have no doubt she's more than willing to whore herself to the powers that be.
Her problem is she's a nitwit. She'll do something to piss them off, then they'll get rid of her.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (dGCAG)
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forget the sum they paid for Weiss, but it was stupendous.
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
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Look, nobody put a gun to their stupid heads.
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
===
Look, nobody put a gun to their stupid heads.
Posted by: Brian Kelly at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (1s0+g)
162
Imagine walking into CBS and saying "you can't just outright slander the President every day and give him no hearing."
It's like walking into a steel mill and telling everyone they're going to make dresses now.
It's like walking into a steel mill and telling everyone they're going to make dresses now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (/VF+8)
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Imagine walking into CBS and saying "you can't just outright slander the President every day and give him no hearing."
It's like walking into a steel mill and telling everyone they're going to make dresses now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (BI5O2)
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LOL
It's like walking into a steel mill and telling everyone they're going to make dresses now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (BI5O2)
++++
LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (avHHk)
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RSBN 🇺🇸
@RSBNetwork
President Trump names Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry as U.S. special envoy to Greenland
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
RSBN 🇺🇸
@RSBNetwork
President Trump names Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry as U.S. special envoy to Greenland
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:03 PM (yol/s)
166
Warner Brothers Discovery owns Looney Tunes: Warner Brothers made them.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 22, 2025 12:03 PM (E0Kkk)
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It is rather bizarre to see that Greenwalds mind operates in a similar fashion to a Zero Hedge comment section.
1. Issue
2. Ruminate
3. JEWWWWWWSSSSS
1. Issue
2. Ruminate
3. JEWWWWWWSSSSS
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (XV/Pl)
168
I still am trying to figure out what killed the shareholder lawsuits.
3-4 decades ago, you'd hear about them all the time.
And it seemed it was a good check on insider greed.
Now, they're all gone; not even a toothless threat, a non-existent threat.
The only recent one was beyond stupid, and completely ignored all law, the one by a few lefties to try and drive Musk out of his own company by over-turning his compensation package.
3-4 decades ago, you'd hear about them all the time.
And it seemed it was a good check on insider greed.
Now, they're all gone; not even a toothless threat, a non-existent threat.
The only recent one was beyond stupid, and completely ignored all law, the one by a few lefties to try and drive Musk out of his own company by over-turning his compensation package.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (HXT0k)
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President Trump names Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry as U.S. special envoy to Greenland
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:03 PM (yol/s)
So who's going to coach the Cowboys???
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:03 PM (yol/s)
So who's going to coach the Cowboys???
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (dGCAG)
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Will Trump still be blamed for everything wrong with the universe in 3000 years?
If so, maybe Israel will finally get cut some slack ...
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:00 PM (yol/s)
There is a 90s (?) clip of Trump on some TV show with Marla Maples ( yeah that old) , in some scene a teenager yells at him that it's all his fault! and he says eh, people blame me for everything anyway ! 🤣
If so, maybe Israel will finally get cut some slack ...
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:00 PM (yol/s)
There is a 90s (?) clip of Trump on some TV show with Marla Maples ( yeah that old) , in some scene a teenager yells at him that it's all his fault! and he says eh, people blame me for everything anyway ! 🤣
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (g47mK)
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Her problem is she's a nitwit. She'll do something to piss them off, then they'll get rid of her.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (
They're all retards. It's no impediment in the news biz. They'll just get rid of her for doing stuff like this. They're allergic to accountability. Even tiny amounts send them into shock.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (
They're all retards. It's no impediment in the news biz. They'll just get rid of her for doing stuff like this. They're allergic to accountability. Even tiny amounts send them into shock.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (BI5O2)
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163 "Trump is a Nazi" versus "Trump Does Jewish Bidding".....
The Democrat conundrum
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He only does Jewish Bidding cuz they have the weather machine. Once he conquers them he will move onto the Puerto Ricans. They have fiestas!
The Democrat conundrum
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He only does Jewish Bidding cuz they have the weather machine. Once he conquers them he will move onto the Puerto Ricans. They have fiestas!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:05 PM (pLaQB)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:05 PM (pLaQB)
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President Trump names Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry as U.S. special envoy to Greenland
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:03 PM (yol/s)
I saw that and it seemed pretty bizarre. What does the Governor of Louisiana have to do with Greenland?
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:03 PM (yol/s)
I saw that and it seemed pretty bizarre. What does the Governor of Louisiana have to do with Greenland?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 12:06 PM (uWKK8)
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New song: "Been at CBS so very damn long, that it looks like 'news' to me"
Posted by: Jim Morrison and Richard Farina at December 22, 2025 12:06 PM (/VF+8)
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172 163 "Trump is a Nazi" versus "Trump Does Jewish Bidding".....
The Democrat conundrum
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He only does Jewish Bidding cuz they have the weather machine. Once he conquers them he will move onto the Puerto Ricans. They have fiestas!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:05 PM (pLaQB)
Nah, they'll just say Jews are the 21st century Nazis...
The Democrat conundrum
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He only does Jewish Bidding cuz they have the weather machine. Once he conquers them he will move onto the Puerto Ricans. They have fiestas!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:05 PM (pLaQB)
Nah, they'll just say Jews are the 21st century Nazis...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 22, 2025 12:06 PM (tOcjL)
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As Ive stated in many posts here, the studios, execs and "talent" are all paid by investors before any content is released to bomb in the real world.
This is how Hollywood is so rich with so little successful product.
This is how Hollywood is so rich with so little successful product.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 22, 2025 12:07 PM (wBaIH)
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They're all retards. It's no impediment in the news biz. They'll just get rid of her for doing stuff like this. They're allergic to accountability. Even tiny amounts send them into shock.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (BI5O2)
Sure, the people in FRONT of the camera, but I figure there are people behind the camera who aren't idiots.
Plenty of them are, sure, but not all of them. Whoever they are though, they will be expected to do the bidding of the Oligarchy. Following orders isn't always hard. Especially when you have no principles.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (BI5O2)
Sure, the people in FRONT of the camera, but I figure there are people behind the camera who aren't idiots.
Plenty of them are, sure, but not all of them. Whoever they are though, they will be expected to do the bidding of the Oligarchy. Following orders isn't always hard. Especially when you have no principles.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:07 PM (dGCAG)
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And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
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Look, nobody put a gun to their stupid heads.
Posted by: Brian Kelly
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A fool and his money, ya know what i mean?
And I bet she'll be out of there pretty quickly. These people aren't going to work for anyone even slightly outside their bubble.
Lotta $$$ down the drain.
===
Look, nobody put a gun to their stupid heads.
Posted by: Brian Kelly
==
A fool and his money, ya know what i mean?
Posted by: Lane Kiffin at December 22, 2025 12:08 PM (1s0+g)
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President Trump names Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry as U.S. special envoy to Greenland
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS
Well, Louisiana and Greenland are very much alike, so I'm sure he'll fit right in there.
https://is.gd/9YYyR8
Posted by: ShainS
Well, Louisiana and Greenland are very much alike, so I'm sure he'll fit right in there.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:08 PM (77rzZ)
181
Imagine walking into CBS and saying "you can't just outright slander the President every day and give him no hearing."
It's like walking into a steel mill and telling everyone they're going to make dresses now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (BI5O2)
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What kind of dresses?
It's like walking into a steel mill and telling everyone they're going to make dresses now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 22, 2025 12:02 PM (BI5O2)
***
What kind of dresses?
Posted by: Rosie the Riveter at December 22, 2025 12:08 PM (2WIwB)
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This is how Hollywood is so rich with so little successful product.
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Mmm, could be that Hollywood is in the Money Laundering Business? Making movies is the cover.
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Mmm, could be that Hollywood is in the Money Laundering Business? Making movies is the cover.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (pLaQB)
183
3 Thank goodness for the new thread.
Posted by: Bulg
Just got here. Didn't read the last thread, but feel confident in saying that the shit-stirring Putz was giving others his "treatment.
Posted by: Bulg
Just got here. Didn't read the last thread, but feel confident in saying that the shit-stirring Putz was giving others his "treatment.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (Y1sOo)
184
1. Issue
2. Ruminate
3. JEWWWWWWSSSSS
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Wait. I thought it was j000000s! Did I miss a memo?
2. Ruminate
3. JEWWWWWWSSSSS
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Wait. I thought it was j000000s! Did I miss a memo?
Posted by: NR Pax at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (OPGS/)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (2WIwB)
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The only recent one was beyond stupid, and completely ignored all law, the one by a few lefties to try and drive Musk out of his own company by over-turning his compensation package.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (HXT0k)
in the Energy biz, leftists were always using them to try to make oil companies stop drilling for oil. They were always just a stupid, sometimes expensive annoyance, and I'm sure that corporate management finally figured out some tactics to kill them altogether.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (HXT0k)
in the Energy biz, leftists were always using them to try to make oil companies stop drilling for oil. They were always just a stupid, sometimes expensive annoyance, and I'm sure that corporate management finally figured out some tactics to kill them altogether.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (uWKK8)
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You misspelled Scum-sucking Siberian Snow Pimps.
Posted by: Diogenes
Our attorneys will be in touch.
-- Amalgamated Union of Scum-Sucking Siberian Snow Pimps.
Posted by: Diogenes
Our attorneys will be in touch.
-- Amalgamated Union of Scum-Sucking Siberian Snow Pimps.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:11 PM (77rzZ)
188
I still am trying to figure out what killed the shareholder lawsuits.
3-4 decades ago, you'd hear about them all the time.
And it seemed it was a good check on insider greed.
Now, they're all gone; not even a toothless threat, a non-existent threat.
The only recent one was beyond stupid, and completely ignored all law, the one by a few lefties to try and drive Musk out of his own company by over-turning his compensation package.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (HXT0k)
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"Strike suits" killed a lot of the investor shareholder litigation. Courts took an increasing dim view of what they saw as attorney-fee driven lawsuits with little recovery for the shareholders. So they tightened the requirements for shareholder suits, especially at the pleading stage, and gave the "business judgment rule" more weight.
It didn't help that a lot of the top plaintiffs-side lawyers turned out to be total creeps and crooks.
3-4 decades ago, you'd hear about them all the time.
And it seemed it was a good check on insider greed.
Now, they're all gone; not even a toothless threat, a non-existent threat.
The only recent one was beyond stupid, and completely ignored all law, the one by a few lefties to try and drive Musk out of his own company by over-turning his compensation package.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 22, 2025 12:04 PM (HXT0k)
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"Strike suits" killed a lot of the investor shareholder litigation. Courts took an increasing dim view of what they saw as attorney-fee driven lawsuits with little recovery for the shareholders. So they tightened the requirements for shareholder suits, especially at the pleading stage, and gave the "business judgment rule" more weight.
It didn't help that a lot of the top plaintiffs-side lawyers turned out to be total creeps and crooks.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)
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Sure, the people in FRONT of the camera, but I figure there are people behind the camera who aren't idiots.
Plenty of them are, sure, but not all of them. Whoever they are though, they will be expected to do the bidding of the Oligarchy. Following orders isn't always hard. Especially when you have no principles.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:07 PM (dGCAG)
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Behind the camera, too, most of them are retards. The tiny minority who aren't abjectly stupid are actively evil and most of the stupid ones are evil, too. There is no good to be found anywhere in American journalism.
Plenty of them are, sure, but not all of them. Whoever they are though, they will be expected to do the bidding of the Oligarchy. Following orders isn't always hard. Especially when you have no principles.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2025 12:07 PM (dGCAG)
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Behind the camera, too, most of them are retards. The tiny minority who aren't abjectly stupid are actively evil and most of the stupid ones are evil, too. There is no good to be found anywhere in American journalism.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 22, 2025 12:12 PM (avHHk)
190
Did Ace get his Windows 95 issues addressed yet?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (vbXSk)
191
There is no good to be found anywhere in American journalism.
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That's cuz there are no Fishing Magazines anymore.
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That's cuz there are no Fishing Magazines anymore.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (pLaQB)
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Another Marxist screed from Buck. Gone full Commie. This IS free market capitalism! Probably has a Luigi Mangione T-shirt...
Posted by: Tongue firmly in cheek at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (TbWk/)
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Good for Zaslav! The sooner those poors are thrown outta work the sooner they can work for me at one of my Arby's for minimum wage...I am even paying a $5 bonus for anyone who signs on over the holidays!
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Zombie Dick Cheney, Mastermind on Viagra at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (m8zKa)
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On the topic of journalism..
This story came through the transom..
Kentucky Distiller Suspends Production due to uncertainty over tariffs.
When you click on the story, the reasons have literally nothing to do with tariffs, in fact the distiller never even mentions tariffs, that was an entirely made up reason by the author of the story.
This story came through the transom..
Kentucky Distiller Suspends Production due to uncertainty over tariffs.
When you click on the story, the reasons have literally nothing to do with tariffs, in fact the distiller never even mentions tariffs, that was an entirely made up reason by the author of the story.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (XV/Pl)
195
Reinstate the ban on stock buy-backs, and a lot of this goes away.
Require private equity to have the same disclosure requirements of the public companies they own and a whole lot more of this goes away.
Require private equity to have the same disclosure requirements of the public companies they own and a whole lot more of this goes away.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 22, 2025 12:14 PM (HXT0k)
196
On the topic of journalism..
This story came through the transom..
Kentucky Distiller Suspends Production due to uncertainty over tariffs.
When you click on the story, the reasons have literally nothing to do with tariffs, in fact the distiller never even mentions tariffs, that was an entirely made up reason by the author of the story.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (XV/Pl)
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They'll still be blaming tariffs for every economic woe for decades after Trump leaves office ....
As was discussed this morning, the booze industry (and especially bourbon) is in trouble because of massive over-production during the boom years. The distillers were making yuge bank during those years. Now ... the tide has turned. Don't cry for the distillers.
This story came through the transom..
Kentucky Distiller Suspends Production due to uncertainty over tariffs.
When you click on the story, the reasons have literally nothing to do with tariffs, in fact the distiller never even mentions tariffs, that was an entirely made up reason by the author of the story.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:13 PM (XV/Pl)
__________
They'll still be blaming tariffs for every economic woe for decades after Trump leaves office ....
As was discussed this morning, the booze industry (and especially bourbon) is in trouble because of massive over-production during the boom years. The distillers were making yuge bank during those years. Now ... the tide has turned. Don't cry for the distillers.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
197
Reinstate the ban on stock buy-backs, and a lot of this goes away.
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What "ban on buy backs"?
Such horse pucky.
Companies have every right to reduce their equity base, if management and the board think its a good investment.
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What "ban on buy backs"?
Such horse pucky.
Companies have every right to reduce their equity base, if management and the board think its a good investment.
Posted by: Jim Morrison and Richard Farina at December 22, 2025 12:17 PM (/VF+8)
198
When you click on the story, the reasons have literally nothing to do with tariffs, in fact the distiller never even mentions tariffs, that was an entirely made up reason by the author of the story.
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My guess the story is that the high end Bourbon market is over saturated with high end Bourbon. I was in the ABC store this weekend and saw Larceny selling at $55 a fifth. Two years ago you could buy it for $20. That's a lot of pricing that has to come down. Hell, Old Grand Dad is a bottom shelf Bourbon these days. WTF?
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My guess the story is that the high end Bourbon market is over saturated with high end Bourbon. I was in the ABC store this weekend and saw Larceny selling at $55 a fifth. Two years ago you could buy it for $20. That's a lot of pricing that has to come down. Hell, Old Grand Dad is a bottom shelf Bourbon these days. WTF?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:17 PM (pLaQB)
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A. I was told by an accounting professor from Israel many years ago that in her country, 'treasury stock is a no-no'. Why not prohibit the holding of treasury stock except in companies which have an employee shareholder plan, where you buy your shares from the treasury when you pass your probation and sell them to the treasury when you leave?
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B. Why not permit boards to order stock splits and reverse splits, but prohibit share re-purchases?
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C. Why not reduce the share types to two: preferred with a guaranteed dividend but no voting rights and common with voting rights but no guarantees?
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D. Why not provide for the voting rights on common stock to fall into abeyance if the stock is purchased by parties with particular properties (e.g. governments, intermediaries for governments, financial sector enterprises other than stand-alone funds and private equity firms, and any kind of corporate body if the firm in question is a financial-sector enterprise)?
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E. Why not require annual shareholder meetings to occur in the county where company HQ is located or in the county wherein the charter was issued, and to take place in the same fortnight every year?
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A. I was told by an accounting professor from Israel many years ago that in her country, 'treasury stock is a no-no'. Why not prohibit the holding of treasury stock except in companies which have an employee shareholder plan, where you buy your shares from the treasury when you pass your probation and sell them to the treasury when you leave?
==
B. Why not permit boards to order stock splits and reverse splits, but prohibit share re-purchases?
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C. Why not reduce the share types to two: preferred with a guaranteed dividend but no voting rights and common with voting rights but no guarantees?
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D. Why not provide for the voting rights on common stock to fall into abeyance if the stock is purchased by parties with particular properties (e.g. governments, intermediaries for governments, financial sector enterprises other than stand-alone funds and private equity firms, and any kind of corporate body if the firm in question is a financial-sector enterprise)?
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E. Why not require annual shareholder meetings to occur in the county where company HQ is located or in the county wherein the charter was issued, and to take place in the same fortnight every year?
==
Posted by: Art Deco at December 22, 2025 12:17 PM (2TXH9)
200
Sock change
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 22, 2025 12:18 PM (/VF+8)
201
This is how Hollywood is so rich with so little successful product.
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Mmm, could be that Hollywood is in the Money Laundering Business? Making movies is the cover.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (pLaQB)
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Next you'll be telling me that Meathead Reiner was a CIA Asset if not a Spook.
Wait, wut?
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Mmm, could be that Hollywood is in the Money Laundering Business? Making movies is the cover.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:09 PM (pLaQB)
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Next you'll be telling me that Meathead Reiner was a CIA Asset if not a Spook.
Wait, wut?
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:18 PM (agLqO)
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Next you'll be telling me that Meathead Reiner was a CIA Asset if not a Spook.
Wait, wut?
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I think you are describing Ben Hecht.
Wait, wut?
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I think you are describing Ben Hecht.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:19 PM (pLaQB)
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@198
>>My guess the story is that the high end Bourbon market is over saturated with high end Bourbon.
The reason for the halt is they are upgrading all of their facilities and production and have enough product to ship during the upgrade.
But a reporter cum propagandist saw an opportunity.
>>My guess the story is that the high end Bourbon market is over saturated with high end Bourbon.
The reason for the halt is they are upgrading all of their facilities and production and have enough product to ship during the upgrade.
But a reporter cum propagandist saw an opportunity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:20 PM (XV/Pl)
204
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)
205
See if we can get a little willow action going on here.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
206
We'll be lucky to get an OPen Thread and glad of it.
Posted by: Jubilant Delinquent at December 22, 2025 12:21 PM (oftw2)
207
Its Hollyweird. They destroyed the movies and tv. They are a close second to State and the FBI for corruption and stupidity.
Posted by: TJ Jackson at December 22, 2025 12:21 PM (bXvrr)
208
Did we get confirmation he got his PC repaired and back last week?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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206 We'll be lucky to get an OPen Thread and glad of it.
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Has the CBD Coup been lifted?
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Has the CBD Coup been lifted?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:21 PM (pLaQB)
210
Qatar, a tiny country of 350,000 people, has the most financial influence in western nations with the purpose of destroying western civilization. We're 50 years into the 100-year plan.
X video: https://bit.ly/4qhEhmB
X video: https://bit.ly/4qhEhmB
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 22, 2025 12:22 PM (P5BPp)
211
But a reporter cum propagandist saw an opportunity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
I don't need propaganda to appreciate cum.
-- Kamala
Posted by: Thomas Bender
I don't need propaganda to appreciate cum.
-- Kamala
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:22 PM (77rzZ)
212
They'll still be blaming tariffs for every economic woe for decades after Trump leaves office ....
As was discussed this morning, the booze industry (and especially bourbon) is in trouble because of massive over-production during the boom years. The distillers were making yuge bank during those years. Now ... the tide has turned. Don't cry for the distillers.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
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I blame "The General" and "Tulsa King," Stye Stallone ...
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As was discussed this morning, the booze industry (and especially bourbon) is in trouble because of massive over-production during the boom years. The distillers were making yuge bank during those years. Now ... the tide has turned. Don't cry for the distillers.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
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I blame "The General" and "Tulsa King," Stye Stallone ...
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Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 22, 2025 12:22 PM (agLqO)
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I tried some "high end bourbon" (Holidays, don't judge me!) from Kentucky recently. It gave me a headache! They put additives in there ! Sulfites, man!
Posted by: runner at December 22, 2025 12:22 PM (g47mK)
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Jerry Jones coaches the Cowboys. All Cowboy fans know that. Let's put it this way, he calls the shots. Coaches be damn.
Posted by: Case at December 22, 2025 12:23 PM (G1OIb)
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NRA: the chocolate ration has been increased from 15 grams to 9!
Enjoy the new digital only American Rifleman ! And maybe 4 printed issues a year!
Enjoy the new digital only American Rifleman ! And maybe 4 printed issues a year!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 22, 2025 12:23 PM (Kt19C)
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So, FiL's RO was happy with his blood work and said everything looked great. PSA numbers are 'unmeasureable' and should be able to stop taking the testosterone blocker medications soon. He's scheduled for 2 more shots over the next few months, but the pills he's almost out of don't need to be refilled.
He said any appointments to see him are on an 'as needed' basis.
Overall, good news.
He said any appointments to see him are on an 'as needed' basis.
Overall, good news.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)
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Also, alcohol consumption in the US is declining, so that will really start effecting brewers and distillers.
I for one am doing my bit to keep brewers and distillers in the black.
I for one am doing my bit to keep brewers and distillers in the black.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
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Jerry Jones coaches the Cowboys. All Cowboy fans know that. Let's put it this way, he calls the shots. Coaches be damn.
Posted by: Case at December 22, 2025 12:23 PM (G1OIb)
He doesn't need to. Today's egotistical millennial blowhard coaches going off ESPN analytics for every play call f*cks the game up all on it's own without any requirement from Jerruh.
Posted by: Case at December 22, 2025 12:23 PM (G1OIb)
He doesn't need to. Today's egotistical millennial blowhard coaches going off ESPN analytics for every play call f*cks the game up all on it's own without any requirement from Jerruh.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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Pigs. Four legs.
Posted by: Eromero at December 22, 2025 12:25 PM (yPhso)
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Strong headwinds are facing the Chief as he mopeds his way back from the 'puter shop. Please be patient.
Posted by: PSA at December 22, 2025 12:25 PM (oftw2)
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Also, alcohol consumption in the US is declining, so that will really start effecting brewers and distillers.
I for one am doing my bit to keep brewers and distillers in the black.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
More for me. Keep going, America!!!
I for one am doing my bit to keep brewers and distillers in the black.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
More for me. Keep going, America!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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F. Why not limit boards to between 4 and 20 members, continent on the number of shareholders?
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G. Why not requiring that all prospective board members be nominated from the floor at the annual shareholders meeting?
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H. Why not limit the franchise to act as a proxy to individual persons who are actual shareholders?
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I. Why not, in re publicly-traded firms, debar anyone who has been employed by the firm in the last twelve months or employed by law firms and consultancies the firm has had on retainer in the last twelve months from acting as proxies or being elected to the board?
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J. Why not require deferred compensation (including 'golden parachutes') be financed out of with-holdings from an executive's paycheck?
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K. Why not have an upper limit on executive compensation which is determined by a formula specified in a statute which has employee-compensation-per-worker in the economy at large and the number of employees a company has (FTE) as arguments?
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L. Why not limit the modes of compensation to a standard benefits package (including medical insurance), cash salary, deferred compensation, miscellaneous perquisites, and a bonus which is a function of revenues?
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G. Why not requiring that all prospective board members be nominated from the floor at the annual shareholders meeting?
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H. Why not limit the franchise to act as a proxy to individual persons who are actual shareholders?
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I. Why not, in re publicly-traded firms, debar anyone who has been employed by the firm in the last twelve months or employed by law firms and consultancies the firm has had on retainer in the last twelve months from acting as proxies or being elected to the board?
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J. Why not require deferred compensation (including 'golden parachutes') be financed out of with-holdings from an executive's paycheck?
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K. Why not have an upper limit on executive compensation which is determined by a formula specified in a statute which has employee-compensation-per-worker in the economy at large and the number of employees a company has (FTE) as arguments?
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L. Why not limit the modes of compensation to a standard benefits package (including medical insurance), cash salary, deferred compensation, miscellaneous perquisites, and a bonus which is a function of revenues?
Posted by: Art Deco at December 22, 2025 12:27 PM (2TXH9)
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They'll still be blaming tariffs for every economic woe for decades after Trump leaves office ....
But they won't repeal them, will increase the tax burden on taxpayers and will pocket even MORE billions.
Destroying Democrats is the ONLY way forward for this country. Period.
But they won't repeal them, will increase the tax burden on taxpayers and will pocket even MORE billions.
Destroying Democrats is the ONLY way forward for this country. Period.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)
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If corporate boards don’t start putting some controls on parasitic executive behavior, people will start voting for politicians who will.
What was it that Obama said when talking to Wall Street? "I'm the one standing between you and the pitchforks"?
What was it that Obama said when talking to Wall Street? "I'm the one standing between you and the pitchforks"?
Posted by: pookysgirl needs a nap at December 22, 2025 12:28 PM (Wt5PA)
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Also, alcohol consumption in the US is declining, so that will really start effecting brewers and distillers.
I for one am doing my bit to keep brewers and distillers in the black.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
More for me. Keep going, America!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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The "declining consumption" metric is based on self-reporting polls. While people surely say they're drinking less booze, I don't know if that is really true. These kinds of polls are notoriously fickle, depending on which direction the cultural winds are blowing.
I for one am doing my bit to keep brewers and distillers in the black.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 22, 2025 12:24 PM (XV/Pl)
More for me. Keep going, America!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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The "declining consumption" metric is based on self-reporting polls. While people surely say they're drinking less booze, I don't know if that is really true. These kinds of polls are notoriously fickle, depending on which direction the cultural winds are blowing.
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 12:28 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)
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U nas yest' NOOD.
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:29 PM (77rzZ)
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THe Constitution imagined the Feds could be supported simply on tariffs. Guess what, they can but a shit ton for Feds horning in on State functions will be looking for a job. We can't have that!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 22, 2025 12:29 PM (pLaQB)
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Sponge, how is the First Lady doing?
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)
Still asleep. I'm just trying to keep her dad from waking her up to "check on her."
You weren't a dad for the first 50 years, why start now?
Sponge, how is the First Lady doing?
Posted by: Bulg at December 22, 2025 12:28 PM (77rzZ)
Still asleep. I'm just trying to keep her dad from waking her up to "check on her."
You weren't a dad for the first 50 years, why start now?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 22, 2025 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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Nude Bari Weiss
Posted by: Judge Elric The Blade at December 22, 2025 12:30 PM (iFTx/)
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In 1980, the most handsomely compensated executive in the United States was a man named Robert Charpie, who was President of an energy concern called the Cabot Corporation. IIRC, his package was $3.3 million. Given the change in nominal employee compensation per worker since that time, a contextually similar sum today would be about $23.4 million.
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You recall the open letter Robert Samuelson published to Michael Eisner in 1998? The occasion was the enormous settlement given Michael Ovitz when he resigned from Disney after eighteen months there employed. Mr. Ovitz was given $90 million to resign from the company. RJS thought that a scandal which discredits corporate America.
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Actually, $200,000 a year plus benefits is the mode for your average corporate CEO. You see these gargantuan sums in a modest number of large firms. They used to be more embarrassed by the obvious looting of shareholders than they are today.
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You recall the open letter Robert Samuelson published to Michael Eisner in 1998? The occasion was the enormous settlement given Michael Ovitz when he resigned from Disney after eighteen months there employed. Mr. Ovitz was given $90 million to resign from the company. RJS thought that a scandal which discredits corporate America.
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Actually, $200,000 a year plus benefits is the mode for your average corporate CEO. You see these gargantuan sums in a modest number of large firms. They used to be more embarrassed by the obvious looting of shareholders than they are today.
Posted by: Art Deco at December 22, 2025 12:35 PM (2TXH9)
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And this is one of my reasons the younger generation has a positive opinion of socialism.
Posted by: Spiff580 at December 22, 2025 01:03 PM (5S8x0)
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