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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Bulg at December 19, 2025 10:05 PM (77rzZ)
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Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 19, 2025 10:11 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:11 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: huerfano at December 19, 2025 10:13 PM (98kQX)
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In college we did a Disney salute halftime show and had to play that damned tune. As soon as we saw the music, everyone groaned. The band director cackled with glee. Sadistic bastard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:13 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:14 PM (/TlUl)
I do feel like we once had it all. But somebody or somebodies just couldn't let that be.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:14 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2025 10:15 PM (poCn6)
Yeah... not really proud of my Navy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 19, 2025 10:15 PM (azNOR)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:16 PM (/TlUl)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 10:17 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Piper at December 19, 2025 10:17 PM (Wmg4n)
Posted by: Rob Reiner at December 19, 2025 10:17 PM (pIfcn)
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Don't care who wins. I just want to see what incredibly asinine stunt the "Florida Man" tries to pull that turns into a catastrophic failure involving alligators, super glue, prostitutes and lawn darts. So, I'll be watching region 8, at least for the first few minutes until they're all gone. I don't expect them to survive the start of the contest.
Posted by: Orson at December 19, 2025 10:17 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Toggle Bolt Tommy at December 19, 2025 10:18 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:14 PM (gKDq2)
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Yeah, and the the afterglow lasted a long time.
I look back at the 90s and think of them the way Churchill recalled the Edwardian age: "The Old World in its sunset was fair to see."
But we have a chance at something even better. Not for us, but for our kids and grandkids. They can have the word we were denied, if we just fight for it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:18 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 19, 2025 10:18 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 19, 2025 10:19 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 10:19 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:19 PM (/TlUl)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:19 PM (npFr7)
Yeah... not really proud of my Navy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
When they let the ships turn into rust buckets, that doesn't help with longevity.
I grew up around Norfolk and all its bases. Didn't see ships then look like recent pictures of ships I've seen.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (gbOdA)
I guess the song in my locked house with a thief would be, "Who Let the Dogs Out, Who, who, who, who."
Or Mariah singing "All I want for Christmas is you, you, you, you."
In reality, anything by The Who. Like Pinball Wizard. My husband knows not to play The Who in the car with me. Almost anything else. I have him well trained.
Starting tomorrow I will mail my Christmas cards! I realize they will be late but figure there are 12 Days of Christmas and a Happy New Year as well!
Also, without snow, my life is depleted like a sad trombone, so my ho, ho, ho has been slow out of the starting gate of Thanksgiving. But it's there and we have lovely grandchildren who will bring great joy, as they do every day.
[But you still want snow, don't you?] Shut up!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (31p00)
Damn. That's just mean.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
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The Navy was really screwed under Obama. Got super-woke because the Secretary was next-level crazy. Wanted to abolish the term "seamen" because it was sexist.
The Air Force lucked out, because the chick Obama planted actually liked the service, and when she was asked about getting rid of "Airmen" said "Oh hell no. I'm proud to be an Airman. Fuck off."
Charlie Brown then screwed us hard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:21 PM (ZOv7s)
They did improve the avionics though, and we have 5th gen F-22's and F-35's. And hopefully a few million drones and laser weapons.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 19, 2025 10:21 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Socratease at December 19, 2025 10:21 PM (YgfoU)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:22 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:19 PM (/TlUl)
"They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha Ha."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:22 PM (npFr7)
saw the Missouri at Pearl two weeks ago and paid my respects at the Arizona Memorial Dec. 8th. Dec. 7th was completely booked.
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:23 PM (25kuG)
When they let the ships turn into rust buckets, that doesn't help with longevity.
I grew up around Norfolk and all its bases. Didn't see ships then look like recent pictures of ships I've seen.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (gKDq2)
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Can't use tin in ship paint anymore. Wonder if that has something to do with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 19, 2025 10:23 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (L/fGl)
I grew up around Norfolk and all its bases. Didn't see ships then look like recent pictures of ships I've seen.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (gKDq2)
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That was Biden's madness at work. Ships couldn't be repainted at sea to save the fisheses. So they had to rust, and of course the damage to the hull and morale was part of the point.
They're now getting fresh paint.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (ZOv7s)
Yeah... not really proud of my Navy."
But we have/had Woke Women and trannies in charge, crashing them together. But WOKE and DEI is the most important thang, more important than retaining liberty.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (R86kT)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:19 PM (/TlUl)
That inane doop-a-dooooo pa-doop a-doop a-doooo song they play on every animal vid. It’s the worst
Posted by: banana Dream at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:20 PM (WONhk)
You might as well just send out Elvis Day cards now. Plenty of time for them to arrive before January 8. (Don't forget to stock up on peanut butter and bananas before then.)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:25 PM (/TlUl)
The stores were not completely empty of shoppers, but not crowded. The aisles were often full of staffers -- but they were restocking the shelves, not pulling stuff off for people too lazy to heave their fat rumps out of their cars and waddle inside the store.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:25 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 19, 2025 10:26 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: San Franpsycho
But I love that song. You just put an incentive for me to break into your home.
On the other hand I probably wouldn't do that to you in the first place, so you're not aiming for my demographic.
The clear answer is this immortal Lou Reed classic
youtu.be/PB1cEyy0fKs
Ensuring you have soundproofing of course.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 10:26 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025 10:26 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: illiniwek at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (vbXSk)
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We need to put up a DEI monument in DC, a bronze sculpture of two women in Navy uniforms, one turning her back on the other and engraved on a marble plinth: "No, I don't want a radar plot from that bitch."
And then the names of the casualties.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: PabloD at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (Epuwl)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025
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American Indians, perhaps, and self-identified mixes of two or more races. I doubt there are enough Australoids (Australian aborigines) in America worth counting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (wzUl9)
Remember, it's the Friday night ONT, last chance to say something witty enough to be featured in the top tennish comments of the week. I expect the entire commentariot to be at the top of their game (or the bottom of the gutter.)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (/TlUl)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025
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"Oy with the poodles already!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (wzUl9)
Damn. That's just mean."
"One eight seven seven kars for kids"
*flounces back out*
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 10:28 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (Hpgos)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (2WIwB)
Almost as if training is more important than DEI!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (n9ltV)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (poCn6)
Went to Wally's because I like their Sparkle paper towels. Bought a pair of Wrangler work pants (on sale). They had other brands with good material for half the price but the pockets, the POCKETS were so small and the Wrangler's were generous.
Be still my beating heart, first time in 3 years FRUITCAKE the little rectangles and bigger whole, full size, cakes. Bought three small one's. Going to freeze two and wrap the other one in Jack Daniels.
yea hoo.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (LEuDt)
Posted by: davidt at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (Q+gd/)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (n5tGW)
Just what are the single mothers who are not Asian, white, black, or Hispanic? Poodles?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025
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Lithuanian
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 19, 2025 10:30 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (wzUl9)
Pacific Islanders, Eskimos, Indo (dot, not feather).
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:30 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:25 PM (wzUl9)
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Meijer - a Michigan-based chain - was open 24/7, 364 days a year (closed on Christmas). Now it's open 6 a.m. to midnight, but I didn't realize it, and from the amused look of the manager, a lot of people didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:30 PM (ZOv7s)
And put a man on the Moon. I was just looking. Dec. 15 was the 60th anniversary of the first orbital rendezvous, Gemini 6 and 7. That was 1965. Neil Armstrong took that first small step in 1969, less than 4 years after that.
Alan Shephard first American in space in 61, Gemini does the first rendezvous 4 years later, and in another 4 years, we're on the Moon. In less than 10 years.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 10:31 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025
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"Oy with the poodles already!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (wzUl9)
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So. What you got groggier style?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:31 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 19, 2025 10:31 PM (/lPRQ)
Can't believe I'm alive to see this.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 19, 2025 10:31 PM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 19, 2025 10:32 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: PabloD at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (Epuwl)
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Region 7 has abundant food, energy, and water.
It also has a nice coastline for international trade.
Though it is prone to tornadoes and hurricanes.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 19, 2025 10:32 PM (ESVrU)
I suggested it might be Mentholly retarded...
...and, I'm still alive!
Good wife choice.
Posted by: Piercello at December 19, 2025 10:32 PM (NRGJj)
Posted by: Gimme, Gimme Shock Treatment at December 19, 2025 10:32 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025
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So. What you got groggier style?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025
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It's got "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?" beat all hollow.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:32 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:33 PM (25kuG)
Damn. That's just mean."
"One eight seven seven kars for kids"
*flounces back out*
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 10:28 PM (XuXeR)
Oh. Well played.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:33 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Dale at December 19, 2025 10:33 PM (f45WX)
Posted by: Rob Reiner at December 19, 2025 10:17 PM (pIfcn)
Never too soon with Morons!
Also, I sort of like "Maneater" by Hall and Oates. I like to think the song was about me in my prime. Altho NOT literally, you jerks. Great song to dance to. Plus it's got a cool saxophone, which I love. One son was a college kid who went by the tag, Saxman, for gigs. He is a very good musician now engineer vs the subway busker we feared.
In reality I was sadly a doofus girl who liked to party and did not care about money or cars. As evident by who I dated and later married (his ride to court me was a '62 white Lancer with an aqua hood and bent coathanger for an antenna).
The Jaguar driver (anesthesiologist) had an eye for any pretty girl who crossed his path, and I said no to him because of this. I ain't stupid, and once I saw that trait I was a no for two years. His regret for many years afterwards. Pity.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: PabloD at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (Epuwl)
Posted by: Bulg at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (/Q9t5)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:31 PM (2WIwB)
*sips scotch*
I hate this phone.
Doggie. Doggie style.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 10:35 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025 10:35 PM (L/fGl)
The 1952 one doesn't have near the payloads the 2025 does. In terms of variety, and the 2025 one can carry ALCMs under its wings.
Posted by: GWB at December 19, 2025 10:35 PM (pgCpV)
youtu.be/PB1cEyy0fKs
Ensuring you have soundproofing of course.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 10:26 PM (gKWVE)
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Everything Lou Reed does is the worst.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:35 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 19, 2025 10:36 PM (0anTZ)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:34 PM (ZOv7s)
A childrens' choir singing "Carol of the Drum".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:36 PM (npFr7)
I fought the Law, and the LAW won...
Posted by: Romeo13 at
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Yes! You beat me to it! Bobby Fuller died at just 23 under suspicious circumstances.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 19, 2025 10:37 PM (RkMzg)
Posted by: NASA at December 19, 2025 10:37 PM (3arSl)
Posted by: Der Volkischer Beobachter at December 19, 2025 10:37 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: PabloD at December 19, 2025 10:27 PM (Epuwl)
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Region 3 wins easily because the Somali jihadist knifes everyone at the meet and greet.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (ZOv7s)
Burglar torture music? Rats and Monkeys by Art Bears. I'd mention IBM by Throbbing Gristle but I find that one soothing.
"Jo Jo Dancer" is a pretty good film. Richard Pryor might have made a great directorial career.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (CHHv1)
President Trump seems to find the weakest points in the Democrats and totally exploits them on social media.
Sometimes, he just goes FULL MONTEY and in their face as if to say...
"I remember 2016 bitches...oh yes I remember!!
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (25kuG)
We are in Zone 2 and might have a chance. Or just drive Mad Maxx style to Region 7 and the farm. Yehaw!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (WONhk)
1) I Love You, from Barney
2) Jailhouse Rock, by Elvis
3) Tiptoe Through the Tulips, by Tiny Tim
If I choose a song clip to repeat, it's Vincent Price's laugh from the end of Thriller, by Michael Jackson
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:36 PM (npFr7)
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All versions of "Last Christmas"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:39 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: mindful webworker - all serious in the comments at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (WB0Mb)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (2WIwB)
Almost as if training is more important than DEI!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 19, 2025 10:29 PM (n9ltV)
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Exactly.
When you are sending America's men and women out the door of an aircraft while in flight, there is no room for the DEI bullshit. It's life and death.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (DsA2n)
Posted by: Piercello at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (NRGJj)
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (25kuG)
Trump remembers 2016 "to infinity and beyond."
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (gKDq2)
It's locking him inside *with you.*
The police are on the way.
You have the length of one song to play during whatever happens between now and when they arrive.
https://youtu.be/h1XG2-3epfs?si=WkdbZ9qyszy1GJ-4
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (BI5O2)
I clipped this for a ring tone; I use it for text messages.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 19, 2025 10:41 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 19, 2025 10:41 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Your store doesn't have those motorized wheelchairs for people who are too fat to walk? The ones that take up so much of the aisle that you can't get past them. So, you have to go back out of the aisle and come in at the other side of fatass.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 10:41 PM (0Htd1)
3) Tiptoe Through the Tulips, by Tiny Tim
If I choose a song clip to repeat, it's Vincent Price's laugh from the end of Thriller, by Michael Jackson
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 19, 2025 10:38 PM (S/Y4j)
If you ever watched the Elvis movie by that name, the choreography for the song-and-dance number of Jailhouse Rock is really brilliant. Huge fun.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:41 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Dale at December 19, 2025 10:33 PM (f45WX)
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I like this sone, but if I heard it more than three times in a row I would lose my mind.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:41 PM (A0sqA)
Yup.
100 years.
Perfect killing machine.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (NwnyJ)
Screwed is what they are.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (lUFok)
The whole thing reads like a movie script. But it happened.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Piercello at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (NRGJj)
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No, younger. Try 5th or 6th.
I once asked my father why he was always late to my middle school band concerts. "That was by design. It was bad enough to hear you play, but the part where you tried to get in tune was just too much."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
They also did away with enlisted ratings for a (very) short time. Assholes.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (DsA2n)
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Too obvious.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (d9i2R)
Yup.
100 years.
Perfect killing machine.
Posted by: Mar
think hood battleship
Posted by: n at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (CTC7H)
Bob Zimmerman of BehindTheBlack web site wrote a book about Apollo 8, called Genesis. Fascinating, and he does a great job of putting it into the context of the times.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:43 PM (25kuG)
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Atonal droning is not my cup of tea.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:44 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025
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You misspelled "Shoplifting by feral yoots."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:45 PM (wzUl9)
In fairness, "the bitch" probably used her mascara without asking.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 10:45 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:46 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (0Htd1)
It's like those obese women complaining about having to pay for two seats on an airplane.
'Bitch, you're spilling over into the third seat!'
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 10:46 PM (gKDq2)
Music-wise, I'd go with "7th grade band concert."
Posted by: Piercello at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (NRGJj)
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Stepdaughter's band did "American in Paris" for halftime. Now I can't stand "American in Paris".
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 19, 2025 10:46 PM (tgvbd)
youtu.be/t2nfMXqYlDA
Posted by: pookysgirl does not want to be YOUR princess at December 19, 2025 10:47 PM (Wt5PA)
I clipped this for a ring tone; I use it for text messages.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 19, 2025 10:41 PM (EXyHK)
I use it for a family member's call tone. If I hear it, someone's in the ER or dead - that's when he would call.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 19, 2025 10:47 PM (S/Y4j)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 19, 2025 10:47 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025
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Oh, yeah, Walmart especially, and Target has them too. Admittedly I had to use them in 2017 when I cracked a foot bone and had to get around on crutches for a couple of months. Made me feel weirdly like I was eight again -- surrounded by people who towered over me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 10:47 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Bulg at December 19, 2025 10:48 PM (77rzZ)
Perfect killing machine.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (NwnyJ)
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We may have hit a plateau, similar to that which started in the 1690s and ran to the 1840s. Warships, artillery, firearms, all of them were pretty much the same, and you get some really old weapons in those days that just get new locks, new stocks, but remain in service because why not? A muzzle-loading smoothbore doesn't really wear out.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:48 PM (ZOv7s)
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Maybe in 2525 too. If man is still alive.
Posted by: Zager & Evans at December 19, 2025 10:49 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Piercello at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (NRGJj)
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No, younger. Try 5th or 6th.
I once asked my father why he was always late to my middle school band concerts. "That was by design. It was bad enough to hear you play, but the part where you tried to get in tune was just too much."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (
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Painfully bad in junior high. Our youngest son played trumpet and, man, that was brutal as he learned. Our Golden shared a room with him and would flee at the sight of it. We often wanted to flee, too.
He went to FSU, one of the best musical programs (or was?) in the country. He tried out for the Marching Chiefs and made it, but found out how much time he would have to practice and said no to a full scholarship. He considered a minor with engineering but nope. The head professor wrote him an email that we howled with laughter reading, as no way, Jose, did we think he'd nail it. He sent it to his private teacher who also laughed. Poor kid. He was good by then and HS, and horrific in 7th grade.
We had fun for many years being band nerd parents.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:49 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 19, 2025 10:40 PM (DsA2n)
Some things are just too cruel. Even for Somali pirates and cockroaches.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:50 PM (/TlUl)
Posted by: I still can't think of anything at December 19, 2025 10:50 PM (kGphH)
Fu*k your games.
Everyone in NorCal and the east sides of WA and OR are going to kick some urban ass.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 10:50 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 10:50 PM (npFr7)
I don't hate obese people, but if you're so wide that people can't get past you in the grocery store aisle, maybe you should lose a few.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (0Htd1)
________
Almost all handicapped plates are legit.
Almost all handicapped placards are counterfeit.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 19, 2025 10:51 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 19, 2025 10:51 PM (/Q9t5)
Yes, Apollo 8. And the Earthrise photo.
The Artemis II mission, which may launch in Feb -- may, mind you -- will be just a repeat of Apollo 8. And they won't even enter lunar orbit, just take a wide figure 8 free return trajectory back to earth. They will set the record for the greatest distance of human from earth, beating Apollo 13's record.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 10:52 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 19, 2025 10:52 PM (7yt4l)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 19, 2025 10:53 PM (7yt4l)
Screwed is what they are.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 19, 2025 10:42 PM (lUFok)
That is how they became mothers.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 19, 2025 10:53 PM (/TlUl)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:53 PM (25kuG)
She started listening to that fine fine music.
https://tinyurl.com/3p68v3e7
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 10:53 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 19, 2025 10:52 PM (7yt4l)
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They no longer have to drop the bombs out of the pilot's window.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 19, 2025 10:53 PM (nWPIJ)
There was the option to "volunteer as tribute". The inner zones tended to do this. Usually they won.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 10:54 PM (gKWVE)
Artemis II will also break the manned speed record. Previous one was set by Apollo 10, 24,816 mph. The Artemis II Orion will get over 25,000 mph according to the mission plan.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 10:54 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Fine...we'll put bomb racks on the Wright Bros. plane.
Posted by: Your airforce at December 19, 2025 10:55 PM (TfUTr)
How bout "Traffic" Low Spark of High Heeled Boys?
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:53 PM (25kuG
There's not a dang thing wrong with any song by Traffic. Thems fighting words.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:56 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: n at December 19, 2025 10:56 PM (CTC7H)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 10:49 PM (WONhk)
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I started out on French Horn, and played it from grade school through my senior year of high school. After marching season was done, I switched to tuba. For years afterwards I liked to tell co-eds that my lips had mastered the smallest mouthpiece and the largest. Sometimes it even worked.
I half-assed it all the way, though, but busted my ass on the audition to get into Michigan State's band, but as chance (or fate) had it, my year was the only one in recent memory where they had a surplus of French Horns. Strangely, they were short of trumpets. Would I consider switching? I desperately wanted in, so bought a used horn, and placed 43rd out of 64 after a week of practice.
The rest, as they say, is history. I do enjoy Alumni Band. I had to skip it this fall for various health and family reasons, but hope to attend next year.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 10:56 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 10:56 PM (9ipOP)
Isn't SLS set to die an unceremonious death though? Before it takes some astronauts with it
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 10:57 PM (gKWVE)
Don't know the title. Neighbor was telling me about it after they'd gotten home, laughing so hard she was crying: "Oh JQ, it was so terrible we couldn't tell *what* they were playing!"
Posted by: JQ at December 19, 2025 10:57 PM (rdVOm)
Can't use tin in ship paint anymore. Wonder if that has something to do with it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Scientists discover lead in paint is not that harmful.
Scientists discover that toddlers hate the taste of leaded paint.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 10:58 PM (LEuDt)
SoCal will just push all of them into the Pacific.
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 10:58 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 19, 2025 11:00 PM (t/66j)
Posted by: JQ
Having attended 3 generations of "recorder" concerts....well, they are rather uniform in their unrecognizability.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:00 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: I still can't think of anything at December 19, 2025 10:50 PM
I'm an old woman. I don't read that crap. I read other crap, written for adults.
Posted by: huerfano at December 19, 2025 11:01 PM (98kQX)
Probably get me sued for a human rights violation, though.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 19, 2025 11:01 PM (lUFok)
Yeah, no.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 19, 2025 11:02 PM (9ipOP)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:00 PM (TfUTr)
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There's a reason why H.P. Lovecraft's notion of horror was Elder Gods serenaded by idiot flute players.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:02 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 19, 2025 11:03 PM (0anTZ)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Scientists discover lead in paint is not that harmful.
Scientists discover that toddlers hate the taste of leaded paint.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Copper Sulfate bottom paint was the best. Ones bottom was protected from fouling.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:03 PM (TfUTr)
Seriously. If anyone in my family was acting,well, off a bit, I would not trot him out to a party. What on earth? On top of the rest of that loco story. I read the kid did not finish grade school. Something ain't right with them.
They truly do live in an alternate universe. I read that Rob wanted to bring him to "keep an eye on him." Worked well! Then reading that O'Brien kept someone from calling 911 cause it was his party is the icing on the cake.
I feel badly for the daughter (who also got stoned at a young age because I have seen photos and am not dumb). The older son seems to be normal and left for Texas to escape, so maybe she will go with him and be sort of normal after the horror.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:03 PM (WONhk)
Probably get me sued for a human rights violation, though.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 19, 2025 11:01 PM (lUFok)
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The lead singer needs some decongestant. Seriously.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:03 PM (ZOv7s)
Anyway, if you're going to post on your phone or play games, please don't choose an aisle that is heavily trafficked and stand in the middle oblivious. All of us will hate you and hope you lose (whatever it is you might lose).
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:04 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: I still can't think of anything at December 19, 2025 11:04 PM (kGphH)
Scientists discover that toddlers hate the taste of leaded paint.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 10:58 PM (LEuDt)
But, but, but... everything awful that happened in the inner cities was blamed on yutes eating paint chips. If that wasn't true...
Badthink! Badthink!
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 19, 2025 11:04 PM (dl47i)
She started listening to that fine fine music.
https://tinyurl.com/3p68v3e7
Posted by: JackStraw
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everybody getting high tonight
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:04 PM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 19, 2025 11:04 PM (t/66j)
Guess where Cthulhu came from.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:05 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Crusader at December 19, 2025 11:05 PM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 11:05 PM (0Htd1)
Drowning Pool..."Let the Bodies Hit the Floor"
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 11:05 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 19, 2025 10:24 PM (L/fGl)
Probably American Indians. They are rife with dysfunction for a lot of different reasons.
Posted by: Raging alcoholics too at December 19, 2025 11:06 PM (TbWk/)
it was a more innocent time
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 11:06 PM (gKWVE)
Isaacman made some noises about cancelling it (and that had Ted Cruz mad at him, and he was responsible for some of the anti-Isaacman stuff), but he's said he's going to follow through with the current plans.
The Big Beautiful Bill locked in funding for it, and he's said he's going to honor that. They are getting worried about the Chicoms beating us back to the Moon, and continuing with the SLS and lunar gateway plans is seen as the only way to be sure.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:06 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:00 PM (TfUTr)
This reminds me! I have known a lovely co-worker for decades. She and her husband play with a group! It always makes me laugh to think about.
I am positive she does not read here, being liberal, or would recognize herself. Her Christmas letter (yes, one of those for each month of the year vs me saying, welp, I got the tree decorated over one week. In May I grew roses, etc)...they ride thousands of miles across states and Europe.
I could write that I flew across some states and have avoided Europe since 2017.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (WONhk)
Burgler songs, lots of strong contenders here, how about the *ahem* pawn shop song from Pulp Fiction?
And the Polish potato dispenser could be made better by adding a potato squeezin's vending machine. Just to cover the bases.
Posted by: I still can't think of anything at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (kGphH)
The Chicoms have plans to put a Chicom on the Moon in 2030. Now, whether than can realistically do that, I don't know.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Piper at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (OoFl2)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 19, 2025 11:08 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Archer at December 19, 2025 11:08 PM (YGRGv)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 19, 2025 11:09 PM (7yt4l)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:03 PM (WONhk)
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Trump wasn't wrong. Hating all the time twists your soul. Pointing that out was an act of charity for everyone else, a fraternal correction. You can't spit venom six days a week and then produce pure, wholesome honey on the seventh.
I get that Reiner had some great films, I'm absolutely of "The Princess Bride" generation, but personally he was a failure. It happens. My father's father was a humble man, didn't achieve fame or greatness, but in his sphere was venerated by everyone who knew him. My mother's father was wealthy, high-flying ad executive and his kids hated him.
Choose wisely.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:09 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 19, 2025 11:09 PM (0anTZ)
Posted by: Archer at December 19, 2025 11:10 PM (YGRGv)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 19, 2025 11:10 PM (snZF9)
Cost me $20.000 to remove in my house.
No insurance covered...no county programs...no state programs.
JUST..."YOU WILL DO THIS OR WE WILL TAKE YOUR HOME,"
You understand now...
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 11:10 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: Hollywood Hystery at December 19, 2025 11:11 PM (oftw2)
Almost all handicapped placards are counterfeit.
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Half of the people using the electric carts in big box stores belong to a group that comprises 13.5 percent of the population.
Posted by: Crusader at December 19, 2025 11:13 PM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (w6EFb)
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Given their shitshow with the first "orbital grill," I'd have a hefty life insurance policy if I were on that mission.
"We got to the Moon a half century after America!" is not much of an own.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:13 PM (ZOv7s)
Region 7 survives. We have Cajuns, hillbillies, rednecks, fishermen, farmers, ranchers, hunters, native Americans, people who cook soul food, some artists, for flair, and me.
Posted by: Piper at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (OoFl2)
__________
And Germans
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 19, 2025 11:13 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:14 PM (viF8m)
One of our grandkids has a friend whose parents never married. After the first kid and a set of twins (which the Baby Daddy said he was tricked into). Well, sir. Now they are sort of "divorced" but never married.It is getting very ugly.
I am not Audrey Hepburn, right out of the convent, but I have never heard of this mess. Had I gotten pregnant there would have been some sort of wedding, even a shotgun type with my Daddy and brothers, but there is no way my kid would go through this. The kids are too little to know how effed up this is. Someday they will.
Ah nevah! I also am not crazy about hanging out near her at basketball games or Christmas pagents for fear he will roar in and kill us all as he finds her. It seems dicey to me and I am going to ask our son of a photo of him so I can be on high alert.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:14 PM (WONhk)
Region 7 survives. We have Cajuns, hillbillies, rednecks, fishermen, farmers, ranchers, hunters, native Americans, people who cook soul food, some artists, for flair, and me.
Posted by: Piper at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (OoFl2)
REBEL YELL!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:15 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: L - No nic,
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Screw thingys are not applicable for safety bars.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:15 PM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:16 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:15 PM (WONhk)
A cheap, but effective whiskey.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 11:16 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: L - No nic,
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Screw thingys are not applicable for safety bars.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Or ANYTHING in drywall.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:16 PM (TfUTr)
Wiley online library
ORGANOTIN ANTIFOULING PAINTS AND THE ENVIRONMENT — DRYDOCK PHASE
CARL M. ADEMA, PAUL SCHATZBERG
First published: May 1984
Fuel savings v. Environmental concerns
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 19, 2025 11:17 PM (NFX2v)
We had 100mph winds last night in western South Dakota.
Posted by: Archer at December 19, 2025 11:08 PM (YGRGv)
Yeah, it was bad here too. I would say Zone 2 or 3 for the Hunger Games: We're tough people but we also know how to make cities work in that environment.
Except for my city, apparently. We doubled the amount of roads but not the plowing capability. Dummkopfs!
Posted by: pookysgirl has some other choice German words at December 19, 2025 11:17 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:16 PM (ZOv7s)
The way this night is going, some of us will need it.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 11:17 PM (2WIwB)
Second sentence true especially amongst the thieving Eastern European scum in their high-end Mercedes and BMW's.
They should be the next to be exposed.
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 11:18 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025
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They might be able to put one there. The question is, like Laika the dog: Can they bring him back again? (More to the point, will they bother?)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 11:18 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:18 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Or ANYTHING in drywall.
Posted by: Some Rat
Oh, F!! Thanks!!
Plan B, hire someone who should know better.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 19, 2025 11:19 PM (NFX2v)
We had 100mph winds last night in western South Dakota.
Posted by: Archer at December 19, 2025 11:08 PM (YGRGv)
Yeah, it was bad here too. I would say Zone 2 or 3 for the Hunger Games: We're tough people but we also know how to make cities work in that environment.
Except for my city, apparently. We doubled the amount of roads but not the plowing capability. Dummkopfs!
Posted by: pookysgirl has some other choice German words
Combine eastern zone 1 with zone 2.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:19 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:09 PM (ZOv7s)
Yep! I chose well. As it turns out he has similar traits to my father (which I did not know til later as he's blond and my father was brunette and ick on the oedipal deal). I chose very well. I was very picky since the HS drive in wrestling matches. No one needs their dang ear licked! I was done!
Both my father and the husband of my youth are/were Christian, loyal, hard working, very funny, kind, and put their wife and kids first before them.
Both should get a medal from dealing with me, Daddy for the first 22yrs, my husband since 1979. I guess I am their trophy!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:21 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 19, 2025 11:21 PM (25kuG)
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:21 PM (XuXeR)
https://tinyurl.com/45e978ad
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:14 PM (viF8m)
Yup!
Best music.
Best cars.
Best clothes.
Stone cold foxes.
Liberty
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 11:21 PM (2WIwB)
One of our grandkids has a friend whose parents never married. After the first kid and a set of twins (which the Baby Daddy said he was tricked into). Well, sir. Now they are sort of "divorced" but never married.It is getting very ugly.
I am not Audrey Hepburn, right out of the convent, but I have never heard of this mess. Had I gotten pregnant there would have been some sort of wedding, even a shotgun type with my Daddy and brothers, but there is no way my kid would go through this. The kids are too little to know how effed up this is. Someday they will.
Ah nevah! I also am not crazy about hanging out near her at basketball games or Christmas pagents for fear he will roar in and kill us all as he finds her. It seems dicey to me and I am going to ask our son of a photo of him so I can be on high alert.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTh
so how have you never heard "babymomma" or "babydaddy", or seen youtube?
Posted by: n at December 19, 2025 11:21 PM (BMu5x)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 19, 2025 11:10 PM (snZF9)
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Hell yeah! *fist bump*
Would also accept "Bodies" by Drowning Pool
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 19, 2025 11:22 PM (t/66j)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 11:22 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:22 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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It's not who gets there first it's who occupies it.
If a .223 is fired at a 5° elevation will the projectile fly into space?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:22 PM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:07 PM (w6EFb)
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Given their shitshow with the first "orbital grill," I'd have a hefty life insurance policy if I were on that mission.
"We got to the Moon a half century after America!" is not much of an own.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 19, 2025 11:13 PM (ZOv7s)
The only reason they are going up there is to copy the electric car we left up there...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:22 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:18 PM (CHHv1)
This.
I've met a couple.
Nice!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 11:24 PM (2WIwB)
Wiley online library
ORGANOTIN ANTIFOULING PAINTS AND THE ENVIRONMENT — DRYDOCK PHASE
CARL M. ADEMA, PAUL SCHATZBERG
First published: May 1984
Fuel savings v. Environmental concerns
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day
And one of the main reasons why US Navy ships are so rusty looks now.
Posted by: Archer at December 19, 2025 11:24 PM (YGRGv)
Posted by: L - No nic,
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Screw thingys are not applicable for safety bars.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Or ANYTHING in drywall.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:16 PM (TfUTr)
You want the ones with the wing things that pop out and grab a large area, and then they are ok for light duty shit. Anything more than that is a gamble.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 19, 2025 11:24 PM (snZF9)
https://tinyurl.com/45e978ad
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:14 PM (viF8m)
Yup!
Best music.
Best cars.
Best clothes.
Stone cold foxes.
Liberty
Posted by: Diogenes
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Rub it in
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:24 PM (4Q/U3)
Wisdom.
Set 2x8s in between studs. Works great.
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:25 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 11:25 PM (0Htd1)
Good night and all sleep well. Blessings.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:25 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:26 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: toddg at December 19, 2025 11:26 PM (aGKc9)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:27 PM (4Q/U3)
https://tinyurl.com/45e978ad
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:14 PM (viF8m)
Yup!
Best music.
Best cars.
Best clothes.
Stone cold foxes.
Liberty
Posted by: Diogenes
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Rub it in
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:24 PM (4Q/U3)
Well, you are not as old as dirt like some of us,so there's that! Of course, I don't age at all (in my head). xxxx
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:27 PM (WONhk)
https://tinyurl.com/45e978ad
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:14 PM (viF8m)
Yup!
Best music.
Best cars.
Best clothes.
Stone cold foxes.
Liberty
Posted by: Diogenes at December 19, 2025 11:21 PM (2WIwB)
And WAY less Racist...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:28 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:28 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:27 PM (WONhk)
That's why I hate mirrors.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:29 PM (gKDq2)
President Trump seems to find the weakest points in the Democrats and totally exploits them on social media.
I haven't been watching the news or social media. What did he do recently?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 11:29 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:30 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:27 PM (WONhk)
my 34 year old Son.... listens to Music from the 70's and 80's, and very little stuff from today.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:30 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Joyenz at December 19, 2025 11:31 PM (2F0/Y)
A lot of sexual abuse, I think. I mean, look at Chaz Bono!
On top of letting kids smoke pot young, which screws them up, but it's cool! No, it's really not, Pop. It exacerbates schizophrenia and here we are!
My cousin was schizophrenic and it typically blooms in the early 20's and his surely did. He had the same eyes, though, that Nick did as a young kid in photos. My brothers and I just thought he was weird til he was really weird and freaked out our friends and everyone else.
As a RN I saw two cases of this and these kids had clean drug screens but were hallucinating so badly they did not know their parents.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:31 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 11:29 PM (0Htd1)
He took the time to go after a dead guy (Rob Reiner).
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (gKDq2)
Pretty close. Surface orbital speed on the Moon is only 3700 mph, just a little faster than .223 and similar rifle bullets.
It would be possible, on the Moon to hit any point on the surface with artillery. You could almost do it with a pure ballistic trajectory, but the mascons and surface irregularities would mean you'd need a little maneuvering capability for the projectile, but not much.
In short, on the Moon, it's would be almost possible to fire a rifle and have it come back and hit you from the other side. Almost. The mountains and all would get in the way for standing right on the surface, but you'd be pretty close to doing that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (w6EFb)
How she can drink more than a few swallows of those flavored coffees is beyond me. Vanilla or chocolate or king cake is fine at first, but it gets cloying after a few sips.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (wzUl9)
youtu.be/UpF1xtMKkzE
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (gKWVE)
Best music.
Best cars.
Best clothes.
Stone cold foxes.
Liberty
Not meant to be patronizing at all. I honestly feel bad for the x, z whatever alphabet generations that came behind us. We had so much fun it seemed like our birthright. It was.
I'd like to get it as much of that spirit back as possible for the generations to come.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:33 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: n at December 19, 2025 11:33 PM (BMu5x)
Posted by: Hot Cross Buns at December 19, 2025 11:33 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day
And one of the main reasons why US Navy ships are so rusty looks now.
Posted by: Archer at December 19, 2025 11:24 PM (YGRGv)
Yup, so the ship's now rust out, and what do we do with them??? oh... we sink them in the Ocean...
So, the tradeoff for the environment, between a little paint, and an entire SHIP, seems to be ignored.
It's right back to the stupid Paper or Plastic Grocery bag stuff. Virtue signaling doing long term damage to the environment.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:34 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:34 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:27 PM (WONhk)
That's why I hate mirrors.
Posted by: RickZ
And stairs.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:34 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:34 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:30 PM (mP0Kj)
Well, there's a key word in there: Music.
"I've got blisters on me bloody fingers!" wasn't just a song line. The bands the greats played in. I was spoiled. Like everything else, I thought it would go on forever.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:35 PM (gKDq2)
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With zero malice, I find the case of Chastity Bono to be one of the craziest things I've ever watched. Of all of the things that should have never happened, this one just strikes me as crazy on stilts.
Posted by: Crusader at December 19, 2025 11:35 PM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:36 PM (XuXeR)
Wisdom.
Set 2x8s in between studs. Works great.
Posted by: man
So before tiling bathroom walls? Darn. So if tile is already up, is there a way to drill through and strongly attach a grab bar to ?
I don't mean to be obtuse. I thought it a relatively easy process, though a grab bar should be able to support a decent amount of weight.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 19, 2025 11:36 PM (NFX2v)
my 34 year old Son.... listens to Music from the 70's and 80's, and very little stuff from today.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:30 PM (mP0Kj)
Raised right! That's all ours heard at home and in cars.
Our son (age 40) is the same. Now our grands know Foreigner! In Honolulu a year ago he had our 3yr old granddaughter belting out, "I want to know what love is!" Hysterical. She's my mini me and I am so proud. The new baby girl looks more like her mother at 3mo., like her big brother.
It is so much fun! I get so excited to see them every week and am as just as goofy on Christmas!!!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:36 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025
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How long would such a rifle bullet take to circumnavigate the Moon, presuming it hit no mountains or similar obstructions? The Moon is, what, 6500 miles around at the equator?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 11:36 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: RickZ
And stairs.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:34 PM (TfUTr)
Them, too.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:36 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:37 PM (pkeXY)
"I've got blisters on me bloody fingers!" wasn't just a song line. The bands the greats played in. I was spoiled. Like everything else, I thought it would go on forever.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:35 PM (gKDq2)
Talent, soul, and no auto tune.
But back then there was live music everywhere. Most half decent bars had bands. Now? Pretty much nada, it's all DJs... so that pipeline of talent is no longer there...
Except maybe online... which does not get a local following for your band to use to get gigs.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:37 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: JQ at December 19, 2025 11:37 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:37 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:33 PM (CHHv1)
Why? Should you be somebody else?
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:38 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day
Stud finder. Fasten the grab bar to the studs you find.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:39 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:33 PM (CHHv1)
Why? Should you be somebody else?
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:38 PM (gKDq2)
If yer gonna be someone else... it's BATMAN....
Cause if you say Napoleon? They'll lock ya up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:40 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
I've known two families where their sons, who were in their early twenties, committed suicide. In both cases they had had behavior problems, but I don't know if there was mental illness or substance abuse.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 11:40 PM (0Htd1)
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:35 PM (gKDq2)
Amen, my friend. It was so abundant we could not think it would end. Man, I had fun.
Wish I could post some photos of how much fun I had. So much in one photo my husband said, you were wasted. I was smiling bigly at my student nurse friend, who is now a landscape photographer.
Indeed I was! Huge, huge party and rite of passage for the colleges here after surviving spring semester. A gang of us, mostly boys, and I was dating none of them, but they loved me and took care of me and hauled me to concerts, too.
Rock on, Morons!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:40 PM (WONhk)
If you can hit a stud, then there are ways. When I redid ours, I popped out the row of tiles and filled in with mosaic...
Otherwise, use the suction cup ones. OK, as long as you realize they can't support body weight. And I've seen them pull out a tile...
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:41 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day
Stud finder. Fasten the grab bar to the studs you find.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:39 PM (TfUTr)
Yeah, I'm goin to hell for this one... but...
Once had a live in Girl Friend who had a female friend, who was constantly bitching that she could not find a man...
So, for her birthday? Yeah... bought her a Stud Finder.
She was not amused.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:41 PM (mP0Kj)
Stud finder. Fasten the grab bar to the studs you find.
Posted by: Some Rat
Got it! Thank you very much.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 19, 2025 11:41 PM (NFX2v)
Instead of the Epstein files, they should be called the Bill Clinton files.
Dec 19, 2025 · 10:45 PM UTC
The pic of Bill in that hot tub with the little girl *barf*
Posted by: gKWVE at December 19, 2025 11:42 PM (gKWVE)
Yeah... not really proud of my Navy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
Salt water is a lot more corrosive than the stratosphere.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 19, 2025 11:42 PM (taapK)
Posted by: Beckonin
don't ever toss that out there, that's mean , there's so much to work with with a statement such as that but out of an abundance of caution, the holidays, kindness (maybe) have to sit here staring at the words not watching everything unsaid go by
Posted by: n at December 19, 2025 11:42 PM (Z7hSe)
Pretty close. Surface orbital speed on the Moon is only 3700 mph, just a little faster than .223 and similar rifle bullets.
It would be possible, on the Moon to hit any point on the surface with artillery.
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As small as the moon is and so little resistance it seems that heavy artillery could alter its rotation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:42 PM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: Azjaeger at December 19, 2025 11:42 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:43 PM (pkeXY)
Orbital period at the surface would be about 2 hours. The Moon is rotating, slowly, so you'd get a little advantage firing in a prograde direction. This is fascinating....
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:43 PM (w6EFb)
Please. Region 7 would be speaking Spanish if it weren't for Region 8 sending Volunteers down to run off the Messicans.
And once Region 8ers left that damn place has started filling up with Messicans again.
Region 7 aren't complete bitches, but they are still Region 8's little bitch.
Posted by: Rural Fellow at December 19, 2025 11:43 PM (UZlJN)
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:43 PM (XuXeR)
She was not amused.
Posted by: Romeo13
Former Mrs Rat waved mine in front of me and "This thing doesn't seem to work."
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:44 PM (TfUTr)
Cause if you say Napoleon? They'll lock ya up.
Posted by: Romeo13
How about Josephine?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:43 PM (pkeXY)
Depends on how ya dress, and whether yer Urban or Rural... Urban? They'll say yer womanz of the Year.
Rural? Yeah... lock up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2025 11:45 PM (mP0Kj)
For 50 years now, nearly all the R&D money has gone into computers. I believe its because the elite dream is to have AI replace all the peasants so the elite can have everything
Posted by: Azjaeger
The Brain Center at Whipple's
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:45 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Some Rat
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...and that's when the fight started, Your Honor....
Posted by: JQ at December 19, 2025 11:46 PM (rdVOm)
Buddy and I were buying some crap and "hey stud finder on sale"
Two good looking womenfolk in earshot, and one said "looks like they work"
Me, being married, demurred. Unmarried buddy...partook....
Posted by: man at December 19, 2025 11:47 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:40 PM (WONhk)
I went to so many all-day outdoor concerts. Saw tons of bands with lots of A-Listers.
For example, I went to Philly in '82 for an all-day one. Madonna opened early in the afternoon. The Kinks were second banana as Foreigner had top billing. I remember Teddy Pendergrass (in a wheelchair shortly after he was paralyzed in an accident; Philly favorite son) and Huey Lewis and the News in between.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:49 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 19, 2025 11:50 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 19, 2025 11:40 PM (0Htd1)
How sad. Of course drugs, especially illegal and/or mixed with legal, mess them up if there is a psych reason.
I cannot imagine. Don't want to imagine. The ED docs laughed at me when we sent our sons to UF and FSU. Two party schools. They said, "No way."
I looked sons in the eye and told them if they could tell me they did not drink til 21 I would pay for a ski trip. They waited til 20yrs and told me they had a beer. (And, yes, I was sometimes swigging but not drinking heavily before legal age 18yrs, so a hypocrite but they did not ask!). I was elected the strictest mother in the neighborhood and told them, good! The other kids did not turn out as well.
They were also sort of scared of us, but in a good way. I heard them talking once:"Mom is not very good at the little stuff, but is cool with the big stuff." Indeed. Eldest had 2 car accidents in 6wks his senior year...neither his fault, and I was thankful they were alive. His car was totaled on his 18th birthday for the finale of that car.
But talk back to me, boys, and look out! Mama activated!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:50 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 19, 2025 11:43 PM (pkeXY)
Only if you were originally Joseph.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:50 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025
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How long would such a rifle bullet take to circumnavigate the Moon, presuming it hit no mountains or similar obstructions? The Moon is, what, 6500 miles around at the equator?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 19, 2025 11:36 PM (wzUl9)
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There's an animated cartoon somewhere in that.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 19, 2025 11:51 PM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 19, 2025 11:53 PM (R86kT)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 19, 2025 11:53 PM (R86kT)
Glad you spelled 'figgy' right.
Posted by: RickZ at December 19, 2025 11:54 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Crusader at December 19, 2025 11:35 PM (Cjcf6)
Incredibly sad for that once little girl. No telling what she went through with Sonny, Cher and who knows coming in and out of that house.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 19, 2025 11:54 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: Providence chief of policia at December 19, 2025 11:55 PM (R86kT)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (w6EFb)
There was a science fiction short story, don't remember the author, in which humans and aliens were in a shooting war on the Moon. Human astronaut takes a shot at an alien, but misses. Something happens, alien gets in distress, and indicates surrender. Communication is attempted, progress is made. Then the missed shot, having circled the Moon, kills the alien dead.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 19, 2025 11:56 PM (npFr7)
And a .223 isn't as close to orbital speed I was thinking. In my mind I was conflating fps with mph. In mph, the .223 speed is around 2000 - 2500 mph, compared to 3700 mph orbital velocity.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:59 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I haven't read that one, but Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in the universe
youtu.be/hLpgxry542M
Posted by: gKWVE at December 20, 2025 12:00 AM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 12:03 AM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: gKWVE at December 20, 2025 12:04 AM (gKWVE)
Had grok run some numbers. I choose a .223 with a conservative muzzle velocity of 0.95 km/s. Fire it at a 45 degree angle. Great circle range would be 10,000 km. Nearly a full lap. If Grok is correct, and I'm not sure.
Grok can mess up.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 12:04 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025 11:59 PM (w6EFb)
The above-mentioned story did mention a very high-velocity rifle, maybe .220 Swift? And the confrontation took place in high Lunar mountains, so the bullet's flight would have been unimpeded by lesser mountains. I don't know if mascons had been discovered at the time of writing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2025 12:05 AM (npFr7)
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I think even admirers of the Kinks probably don't get how *huge* they were at one point. Its my raw guess that during the '70s the only bands in the UK that outdrew them were Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, The Who, Black Sabbath, and Paul McCartney & Wings (the Beatles were done at that point).
Also, there's a TON of their songs that were covered by other bands.
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 12:06 AM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: pookysgirl has never had figgy pudding at December 20, 2025 12:07 AM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2025 12:09 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
@&(1/-67!?!^%#}{!!!
Fu*king earthlings! Die!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2025 12:10 AM (2WIwB)
https://tinyurl.com/yexxayyk
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:26 PM (viF8m)
ALRIGHT!
I will never not love Lynyrd Skynyrd til the day I die.
Wish I had seen them live. They were either in MS and I was out West in college, or vice versa. BUMMER.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 20, 2025 12:10 AM (WONhk)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Windstorms, sheesh. Ain't we got fun?!
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 12:13 AM (rdVOm)
I will never not love Lynyrd Skynyrd til the day I die.
Wish I had seen them live. They were either in MS and I was out West in college, or vice versa. BUMMER.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
Saw them open for The Who on their Quadrophenia tour.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 20, 2025 12:14 AM (pkeXY)
I'm pretty sure Grok fucked that up, and I'm trying to figure out where it went astray.
It's funny how the vaunted "AI" can get all screwed up in it's "thinking".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
My storm door must not have been latched today. A gust caught it just right, slammed the door open LOUDLY. Thought the glass was broken. It wasn't, but bent the steel rod on the closer something fierce. Had to remove it. Buy one in town tomorrow.
Posted by: When The Wind Blows at December 20, 2025 12:14 AM (oftw2)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 12:15 AM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 19, 2025 11:33 PM (CHHv1)
If you are still here (as I am supposed to be in bed)...I love you right back.
Never, ever apologize for being you. God made you and we love you!
I think you are great. All Morons are great and you are one. Remember that. Don't mess with me about this. xxxx
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 20, 2025 12:16 AM (WONhk)
Posted by: man
Say what? No, I'm kidding, I think.
Everything in the space of the shower, waterproof. 👍
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 20, 2025 12:17 AM (NFX2v)
I'd like to get it as much of that spirit back as possible for the generations to come.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 19, 2025 11:32 PM (viF8m)
God willing, I intend to ensure the grandchildren of Diogenes understand great music, muscle cars, Christian love, accurate shooting, having fun, and know when to laugh at bullshit.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2025 12:18 AM (2WIwB)
Posted by: pookysgirl has never had figgy pudding at December 20, 2025 12:07 AM (Wt5PA)
I think it's the same as steamed plum pudding, darlin. Which is really good with a bourbon cream sauce my grandmother used to make.
I'll tell you the ONLY good food to come from the British Isles, in this case, Ireland: Sticky Toffee Pudding. I pretty much lived on that, cheese, and wine in Ireland. My husband and son ate blood puddings and Haggis and bleah, nope!
I am not cultural and lose weight on trips.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 20, 2025 12:20 AM (WONhk)
They're coming to take The Beatles away ha haaaa
https://youtu.be/w0k5FUuMfvc
Fun historical factoid: the B side of the original 45 was the first backward recording. I once had that 45.
ah ah yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT
Posted by: mindful webworker - with trees and flowers and chirping birds at December 20, 2025 12:24 AM (WB0Mb)
Rolling Stone, Larry Magid of Philadelphia’s Electric Factory Concerts says it takes either a package of big-name groups, one supergroup like the Rolling Stones or something very unusual to sell out a show in a place the size of Philly’s 90,000-seat JFK Stadium. His plans for JFK this summer include a $15.75-per-ticket extravaganza with Foreigner, the Kinks, Loverboy, Joan Jett and Huey Lewis and the News on June 19th. He will put on three other concerts at JFK, one of which will feature black artists and be headlined by Rick James.
A great year for concerts.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 20, 2025 12:25 AM (NFX2v)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2025 12:27 AM (viF8m)
That photo on top reminds me so much of a guy I almost dated before I met my guy.
A friend, but there was something in the mix. Had a motorcycle and took me for a ride (he did give me a helmet but did not ask me to change from daisy dukes and a halter top...so I could have left most of myself on the pavement if we crashed). Idiot! Guardian angels were exhausted.
I also did not stuff my very long hair in the helmet, which was a later deal I had to fix.
AND he did not tell me the thing on the left was super hot when we stopped. I burned a silver dollar size, 2nd degree, hideous burn on my left calf.
He had that same expression on the top photo almost. I mean, no empathy at all. No offer to help, a bandage, rub some dirt...nothing.
I felt this was weird and never went out with him, altho tolerated him at parties. No empathy and probably was a serial killer.
I figured if he really liked me he would have given a hoot that I left part of my leg on his motorcycle exhaust or whatever that was. It did not scar. What a jerk, eh?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 20, 2025 12:28 AM (WONhk)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 19, 2025
___________________________
I don't want to come across as petty. But, I wouldn't be too terribly upset if the US timed a moon mission to occur days after the ChiComs, landing in the same area, and taking down any flag they put up.
Posted by: Orson at December 20, 2025 12:32 AM (dIske)
Yeah, Grok was way off, and, with some sanity check prodding, I got him to find his error. The range is much shorter. Now, for a surface shot, again using 0.95 km/s muzzle velocity ( this is sort of a mean of the common FMJ velocities, I think, why not use 1 km/s? Well,Grok came up with 0.95 as a reasonable rough speed).
Now, using a flat plane uniform g, we know the max horizontal range is with a launch angle of 45 degrees. Turns out that's not too far off using an actual orbit. It actually depends on the firing height and projectile speed a bit but it's still close. It's 39.6 degrees for this .95 km/s .223, and the range there would be 665 km, or 413 miles.
The 45 degree flat plane parabola range for the Moon's gravity would be 552 km.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 12:37 AM (w6EFb)
We were driving today on our way to our annual family Christmas gathering, and about an hour and a half into the drive, the thought popped into my head that a year ago at this same time, we honestly didn't know if I would ever make this trip again.
We are definitely going to cherish this Christmas.
And we are looking forward to seeing our grandbabies tomorrow!
God bless us, every one 💕💕💕
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 20, 2025 12:37 AM (RPbWK)
Posted by: raimondo at December 20, 2025 12:38 AM (2Cj+/)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2025 12:40 AM (2WIwB)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 20, 2025 12:41 AM (GhIJO)
You may have to hit the think harder button because he does not devote unlimited resources to every question.
Posted by: n at December 20, 2025 12:44 AM (+04jR)
And Iiiiiiii will always love youuuuu
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 20, 2025 12:47 AM (dE3DB)
We are definitely going to cherish this Christmas.
And we are looking forward to seeing our grandbabies tomorrow!
God bless us, every one 💕💕💕
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 20, 2025 12:37 AM (RPbWK)
YAY! Blessings, indeed, Teresa!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 20, 2025 12:47 AM (WONhk)
Posted by: raimondo at December 20, 2025 12:47 AM (2Cj+/)
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Uh, without "all hoops" we have no certainty that the vote itself was cast by a registered voter, within the allowable time period, for any of the candidates on the official ballot (if a mark isn't clearly within the boundry of a check-box for a candidate, why should it count?), etc. Paid election officials should be held accountable for any lack of supervision that they demonstrate.
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 12:48 AM (Cjcf6)
Oh yeah, Grok got it now. Basically, our optimal firing elevation angle varies with muzzle velocity pretty strongly. For very low speeds, it's just 45 degrees, as that flat uniform g is close enough. As speed increases, the firing angle decreases, slowly at first, then gets to 0, horizontal as muzzle velocity approaches orbital speed.
At 1.2 km/s, angle is 35 degrees, range is 950 km. For 1.5, angle is 20 degrees, range is 3500 km. 1.68 km/s is orbital speed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 12:49 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: raimondo at December 20, 2025 12:52 AM (2Cj+/)
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Have you read the recent economic reports? Also, have you read of the number of illegals who were deported or who chose to self-deport? Do you have any guesses for what those results afford "Black dump supporters"?
By the way, "rethugliKKKans"? What, are you about 15 years old?
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 12:53 AM (Cjcf6)
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Go ahead, tell us all how such "suppression" happens?
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 12:55 AM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 12:13 AM (rdVOm)
It was a miracle it didn't hit anything. there is a parking area to the left of the driveway. My pickup is backed in, and a friend of mine has his hot rod backed in next to the pickup because I'm helping him build it. Those cars are facing our regular cars parked in front of the garage. The tree fell and was laying right across the front of my pickup and friends car, like 1-2 feet away, and it's parallel to my normal car. 5 cars and it didn't hit one. I was looking at that tree a few weeks ago and was thinking you know, its leaning a little, I should remove that tree. Well I got my wish.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2025 12:56 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 12:55 AM (Cjcf6)
You know, when the repubs make sure there is never enough ballots for the dems...oh wait, its the dem run states that always do that to the republican areas.
Oh I got it. You know when mechanical issues mysteriously shut down voting precincts in dem areas...oh shit, thats right, its the dem states that always have these breakdowns.. only in republican areas. Fuck it, I got nothing.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2025 01:04 AM (snZF9)
The hits keep on a comin' and I keep standing back up for more, bleh.
Today: was going to drive truck down to dad's & clean up a bit around that fallen tree. No start. It was mid-afternoon already (after lunch with hubby) so just jump-started from the car. That battery was *dead* and I just bought it this Spring! Only been 3 weeks since I drove truck, so maybe got electrical problem. Check engine light came on.. codes were iffy, likely due to battery issue/charging, so I cleared them.
Let it run for a while, then drove truck around for 10-15 minutes while there was still daylight. Used up all my daylight and didn't get any work done at dad's.
At least the codes didn't reappear, so there's that. Yay.
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 01:07 AM (rdVOm)
That's interesting, the dependence on muzzle velocity. Even at 90% of orbital speed, the max range is still only 1/3 of the circumference. You've got to get really close to orbital speed to get a significant fraction of going all the way around.
With the real Moon, however, the mascons and the strong deviation from inverse square g field would mess all that up big time, and the actual solution would be a complicated mess. They've got the Moon's gravity mapped out pretty good now, but it would be one hell of a complicated calculation.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 01:07 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Berserker
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Heh. We don't need to worry about our 'iffy' trees falling anymore, do we?
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 01:09 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: pawn at December 20, 2025 01:13 AM (EMg+d)
Posted by: Shepherd Lover at December 20, 2025 01:14 AM (EmOFw)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 01:16 AM (rdVOm)
And Iiiiiiii will always love youuuuu
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 20, 2025 12:47 AM (dE3DB)
When one of my brothers was in college, his roommate played this on a loop. Little bro said he nearly went bonkers. Heh.
I always remember then, too, he got food poisoning but ate at so many fast food places that day they could not figure out where he got it. A super strange combo of meals, too.
Basically all of my life I have been surrounded by crazy guys starting with my brothers.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 20, 2025 01:17 AM (WONhk)
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Lol! I have an unpopular opinion about Whitney: she was leaning into a drug addiction from the moment she became popular. Whether that was or wasn't her own fault is a topic for another day. But to pretend it was entirely the fault of her husband seems a little shallow.
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 01:19 AM (Cjcf6)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 01:16 AM (rdVOm)
10 years ago I had 9 Trees on my 1/4 acre lot... that were all mature... some 50 years old.
Now? 2 smaller trees are left. Why? Solar panels
Every house in town has WAY less trees now, then when I was growing up... Green is now the anti Green.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2025 01:19 AM (mP0Kj)
And Iiiiiiii will always love youuuuu
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 20, 2025 12:47 AM (dE3DB)
Laaaast Christmas I gave you my heart...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 20, 2025 01:22 AM (nbLIj)
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 01:23 AM (Cjcf6)
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Uh, without "all hoops" we have no certainty that the vote itself was cast by a registered voter, within the allowable time period, for any of the candidates on the official ballot (if a mark isn't clearly within the boundry of a check-box for a candidate, why should it count?), etc. Paid election officials should be held accountable for any lack of supervision that they demonstrate.
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 12:48 AM (Cjcf6)
For a mail in ballot to be legal in Calif, they are supposed to look at the signature on the outside of the envelope, and then compare it with the signature you have on file either through DMV, or your Voter Reg Card.
They literally do not have the time, nor bandwidth to do that. It is a technical impossibility, yet that is the ONLY verification on ballots.
So they just ignore the law.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2025 01:23 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 01:19 AM (Cjcf6)
But, didn't ex Secret Service guy Kevin Costner save her???? It must be true, saw it on TV!
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2025 01:25 AM (mP0Kj)
Just looking at that. That has a muzzle velocity of 4000 fps, which gets us to 1.2 km/s, still not a high enough fraction of orbital velocity. It's 70%, but that only gets us 950 km range (590 miles).
Now, for mountain heights. Height does affect that but to be significant it has to be a significant fraction of the Moon's radius. Highest elevation on the Moon is about 8 km above the mean, and that's not enough to change the range much at all.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 01:32 AM (4Q/U3)
Now, for mountain heights. Height does affect that but to be significant it has to be a significant fraction of the Moon's radius. Highest elevation on the Moon is about 8 km above the mean, and that's not enough to change the range much at all.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)
Well, the story is fiction, after all. And I may have misremembered just what model rifle was used. And another consideration is that a gun fired in a vacuum might have a higher muzzle velocity because the bullet isn't pushing a column of air out of the barrel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2025 01:39 AM (npFr7)
Trees around the house bring strange animals and icky bugz.
_Watermelon R. Treehugger
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 01:43 AM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 20, 2025 01:44 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Deep math
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 01:44 AM (4Q/U3)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 20, 2025 01:45 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 20, 2025 01:46 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Crusader at December 20, 2025 01:46 AM (Cjcf6)
The progress from 1900 to 1960 dwarfs the progress from 1960 to now.
Yes I can order Thai food at 3 AM and have it delivered to my door in 30 minutes and people in the 60s couldn't. But...I could live in 1960 technologically and feel fine. 1900? Much harder. No cars. No electricity. No novocaine. And on and on...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2025 01:48 AM (sKqQm)
Posted by: pawn at December 20, 2025 01:13 AM (EMg+d)
I think that’s a Dolly Parton written song IIRC.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 20, 2025 01:48 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 20, 2025 01:50 AM (cHNrw)
I really liked the movie Midnight in Paris mainly because of that thought game, people wanting to live in a different time period.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 20, 2025 01:51 AM (KDPiq)
Another big difference is no drag at all. When the bullet got back to the surface it would still be moving at essentially muzzle velocity. So even at the 500 mile range, it would still be packing the full punch.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 01:52 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2025 01:48 AM (sKqQm)
Well, there probably weren't any Thai restaurants in North America in 1960. But you likely could order a pizza at 3:00 A.M. and have it delivered in 30 minutes just by picking up the phone. And there were cars in 1900. Crude, slow, and few and far between, but they certainly existed. And there was laudanum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2025 01:55 AM (npFr7)
youtube.com/watch?v=RCXjEIQANes
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 02:03 AM (4Q/U3)
https://youtu.be/cn60BY_E77Q
MiladyJo notes that was just four months before her mother was born.
https://youtu.be/3kGO4iAuGac
G'nite, y'all. See you on the prayer and coffee thread, or the pets at least.
Posted by: mindful webworker - with trees and flowers and chirping birds at December 20, 2025 02:03 AM (WB0Mb)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 20, 2025 02:12 AM (4Q/U3)
I got interested in how much firing in vacuum vs air would increase muzzle velocity. The easy way to ballpark that is to consider the pressure difference. Chamber pressure for a .223 is around 55 kpsi, call it, vs 14.7 psi standard atm pressure. So very little difference.
However, in the barrel, the air can't move fast enough, and compresses, raising back pressure. The limit of that is just to imagine having to accelerate the air column to the same speed as the bullet, and the difference there is just the ratio of the mass of the air column to the bullet mass.
So, at most, being generous you won't get more than 1% increase in muzzle velocity, probably 0.1%.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 02:15 AM (w6EFb)
Now, turns out the high speed tank guns do have muzzle velocities that get to and exceed lunar orbital velocity. So, you could go all the way around the Moon with that. In practice, you'd just take the shorter great circle route and never have to go for more than half of the circumference to minimize flight time.
So, a tank could indeed do it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 20, 2025 02:23 AM (w6EFb)
Publius - fascinating discussion regarding firing a bullet around the moon.
BC - Hang in there! Don't give up!
Looking forward to tomorrow's hobby thread to see if my ornament submissions made the cut.
Tomorrow is a major all day party with the wife's family but I plan to be around.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 20, 2025 02:26 AM (QGaXH)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 01:16 AM (rdVOm)
You and me both. I have no clue what type of trees I have. They are really tall, but thin. At most maybe 12-15inches across at the trunk. No branches until you get way up there. Kinda like retarded looking palm trees without the palm looking tops. the one that fell was probably 40ft tall but at best maybe 10-12 inches near the bottom. I would like to clear the whole area along the wooded side of the driveway. A small bulldozer would probably knock them down like twigs.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2025 02:29 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2025 02:29 AM (snZF9)
Conifers, or deciduous trees? Lombardy poplars were popular for windbreaks. Very slender-looking trees; branches hugging close to trunk all the way up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2025 02:34 AM (npFr7)
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Bers, I'm an amateur at tree identification, but I know for a fact that Dad's tree is a douglas fir. Notorious for shallow (no taproot) roots. Lucky indeed, that it didn't fall onto the house & into the living room! It was close.
Cleanup will be a sticky, sappy mess. Smells *wonderful* though... like Christmas!
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 02:37 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 02:39 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 02:37 AM (rdVOm)
Doug fir boughs make a nice mattress for camping, too. Soft needles. And the wood makes very fine lumber.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2025 02:39 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2025 02:34 AM (npFr7)
uh..tree. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2025 02:43 AM (snZF9)
Already told the neighbors to come by & clip if they wanted some fresh greenery for decorating.
Posted by: JQ at December 20, 2025 02:44 AM (rdVOm)
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