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Christmas Eve Open Thread - December 24, 2025 [Nativity Adjacent Rex]
Good evening Horde. Fa la la la la.
On behalf of the Ace Media Empire, the staff and management and contributors, Der Weihnachtsmann, The Grateful and myself, Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
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Posted by: mindful webworker - let it shine, let it shine, let it shine at December 24, 2025 10:00 PM (uPdbI)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2025 10:00 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at December 24, 2025 10:00 PM (w3u3d)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 24, 2025 10:01 PM (XSP3T)
Going to look for it.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 24, 2025 10:02 PM (rghSL)
Customers are so persistent and stupid.
Calling over the PA saying registers close at 6pm, 5:52pm guy whining because all the cheap bicycles are sold out, and at 6:05 there is a guy with his two daughters in soft-lines getting clothes, and finally at 6:40pm a woman comes in the door and is shocked we are already closed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:03 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 24, 2025 10:03 PM (FlRtG)
If you're solo this holiday season, please check in. If you know someone that is solo, please check on them
colin said he would be alone tonight for the first time
nec is in a hotel room to take her sik doggeh to the vet
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 24, 2025 10:04 PM (WGeqj)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2025 10:04 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 24, 2025 10:04 PM (A62KL)
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 24, 2025 10:04 PM (cCn4/)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2025 10:04 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:05 PM (nWPIJ)
Not even the Moose Out Front
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:05 PM (nWPIJ)
If you want something a little different, Mark Steyn always posts a one hour “Lessons and Carols” on Christmas Eve. It’s up at steynonline.com. I’m listening to it now.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:05 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 10:06 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:06 PM (yreN9)
One can never be solo when the Horde is at hand.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at December 24, 2025 10:06 PM (jYat7)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (aKh6S)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (cYBz/)
You gonna dress him up for Christmas?
Little hat?
Sweater?
Posted by: Soothsayer
No way! Dude Cat still has all his claws, and they are *razor sharp* as in: you don't know you've been sliced until you notice all the blood...
He's not "cuddly" although he is generally well-behaved. I don't push him. LOL!
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (S/Y4j)
https://bit.ly/trex-star
Posted by: mindful webworker - jolly hollydaze at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (uPdbI)
And I still remember our family going to the come-and-go Christmas Eve prayer service at our church, and INSISTING that we pray for our astronauts who were up in space that night (I was all of 8 years old).
My dad - a NASA engineer - was embarrassed, but I didn't care. I wanted to be sure that God was watching over them while they were so far away from home and their loved ones.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 24, 2025 10:08 PM (XSP3T)
Annual Christmas Eve jazz concert canceled after Trump’s name installed on Kennedy Center
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 24, 2025 10:08 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:08 PM (2GVsD)
Behold the father is his daughter's son,
The bird that built the nest is hatch'd therein,
The old of years an hour hath not outrun,
Eternal life to live doth now begin,
The word is dumb, the mirth of heaven doth weep,
Might feeble is, and force doth faintly creep.
O dying souls! behold your living spring!
O dazzled eyes! behold your sun of grace!
Dull ears attend what word this word doth bring!
Up, heavy hearts, with joy your joy embrace!
From death, from dark, from deafness, from despairs,
This life, this light, this word, this joy repairs.
- St. Robert Southwell
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 24, 2025 10:08 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: mindful webworker - jolly hollydaze at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM
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Ha! We're a little skiddish with anything that looks like an approaching meteor.
Posted by: TRex - duck and cover dino at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (cCn4/)
Posted by: Joyenz at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (2F0/Y)
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (YlWIZ)
Posted by: tankdemon
*********
Best.Excuse.Ever.
Merry Merry my very creative friend!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (cCn4/)
I fondly remember midnight Mass when I was very young. They stopped doing it at some point, I don’t remember why. I remember a retired priest performed that Mass, so it may be that he died and was the only one willing to. (Our parish priest was shared among several communities.)
My current church does a midnight Mass (and at midnight) and will be singing carols before Mass. Always nice.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:10 PM (EXyHK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO7Hs6nzAuE
Posted by: huerfano at December 24, 2025 10:10 PM (98kQX)
https://bit.ly/trex-star
Posted by: mindful webworker - jolly hollydaze at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (uPdbI)
That's cruel, man. Just plain cruel.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 24, 2025 10:10 PM (A62KL)
Posted by: tankdemon
Heh. Good one.
Wouldn't want the fat man missing the runway.
Posted by: mindful webworker - incandescent, halogen, or LED? at December 24, 2025 10:10 PM (uPdbI)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 10:10 PM (sjyPY)
Annual Christmas Eve jazz concert canceled after Trump’s name installed on Kennedy Center
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice!
Should put his name on Congress, the SCROTUS bldg and all lessor courts.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 24, 2025 10:11 PM (/lPRQ)
Tomorrow is lamb shops, a nice Cabernet and some NFL.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at December 24, 2025 10:11 PM (MNCvZ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:12 PM (nWPIJ)
"This isn't a basketball game. We aren't playing 'til the final buzzer. Get out!"
Posted by: Last Night's Comedy Piece at December 24, 2025 10:12 PM (gCsmq)
Posted by: tankdemon
*********
Best.Excuse.Ever.
Merry Merry my very creative friend!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (cCn4/)
When lights fail you can always try the Die Hard 2 method. It's FAA compliant if you're a certified action hero.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 24, 2025 10:12 PM (3uBP9)
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Shawn Farash
@Shawn_Farash
TRUMP SINGS: "TIS THE SEASON TO DEPORT 'EM"
https://is.gd/LnXCuk
'Tis the season to deport 'em, FLLLLLLLL
We love ICE and we support 'em, FLLLLLLLL
Send 'em on one-way vacations, FLLLLLLLL
Ramp up those mass deportations, FLLLLLLLL
We've deported millions so far, FLLLLLLLL
Next we'll deport Ilhan Omar, FLLLLLLLL
Look at how those thugs are acting, FLLLLLLLL
Let's send those bad hombres packing, FLLLLLLLL
Posted by: ShainS -- A DEI Kakistocracy, If You Can Keep It at December 24, 2025 10:13 PM (LgsNJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma
OOooo, she's cute.
Isn't that the gal Oregon Muse regularly featured in his fashion posts?
Posted by: mindful webworker - I miss the chess puzzles at December 24, 2025 10:13 PM (uPdbI)
Merry Christmas to all the Horde from me, Her Majesty and all the Hounds of Soyara.
(Diana, Dot, Dutchess, Val, Rosalind, Dan, Sonny, Puff, Ruth, Finn and The Big Dummy)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 24, 2025 10:13 PM (tgvbd)
So did they. Or some of them did. I read Robert Zimmerman’s Apollo 8 a few weeks ago. That was the Christmas flight around the moon. Most if not all of the families were churchgoers and integrated prayer into their hopes for the safe return of their fathers/husbands.
That was also the famous flight where the astronauts read from Genesis.
Well worth a read.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:13 PM (EXyHK)
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Liminaria has nearly gone extinct since penicillin was discovered.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:13 PM (nWPIJ)
https://tinyurl.com/NightBeforeXmas
AdventCalendar
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 24, 2025 10:13 PM (XSP3T)
Posted by: Bulg at December 24, 2025 10:14 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 10:14 PM (LNeRu)
From the Grandfathers, the Grandmothers, and the Youngs
We are now drink the October wine, for this is time of Happy and Celebrationings
Posted by: Official Novdu Informations at December 24, 2025 10:14 PM (f/3mU)
They say you're never really gone if someone remembers you.
Merry Christmas to our not-forgotten friends in 2025: Vic, Jim (SND), Deplorable Jay, Ciampino, WitchDoktor...
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:15 PM (yreN9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2025 10:15 PM (pkeXY)
A very very merry merry Christmas… to you!
And mele kalikimaka to all morons!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:15 PM (EXyHK)
https://youtu.be/mKScvzJ7CkE?t=377
There are a lot of funny ones here.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 24, 2025 10:15 PM (S/Y4j)
Merry Merry my very creative friend!
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (cCn4/)
Thank you. Merry Christmas.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 10:16 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 24, 2025 10:16 PM (tgvbd)
To all of the Horse who have graduated to the Choir Triumphant, slainte!
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:16 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2025 10:17 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 24, 2025 10:07 PM (S/Y4j)
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Shoot Greedo first and it will be official.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:17 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Hans Gruber, Jr. at December 24, 2025 10:17 PM (XaT2C)
Merry Christmas to our not-forgotten friends in 2025: Vic, Jim (SND), Deplorable Jay, Ciampino, WitchDoktor...
Posted by: Soothsayer
Amen.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025 10:18 PM (c115l)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 24, 2025 10:12 PM (3uBP9)
Then you have to replace the shingles in the new year. Not really in the budget.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 10:18 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:18 PM (2GVsD)
Is it Kwanzaa yet?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 24, 2025 10:16 PM (tgvbd)
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Not until you've beat the living shit out of your pregnant girlfriend and jacked a liquor store.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:18 PM (nWPIJ)
Apollo 8 also gave us the seminal Earthrise photo. Taken by Bill Anders.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: banana Dream at December 24, 2025 10:12 PM (3uBP9)
Saw a meme sayin Die Hard was NOT a Christmas movie... since it was Alan Rickman chasing a guy through a building, it was a Harry Potter movie...
But... that means its also Alan Rickman getting killed by the protagonist, thus Quigley down Under...
And Alan Rickman chasing a guy at Christmas? Costner's Robin Hood? and call off Christmas!
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 24, 2025 10:19 PM (mP0Kj)
I don’t know. I thought “To all of the Horse” had a nice ring to it. Especially ending in “Slainte”.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:19 PM (EXyHK)
Woot! I just got an antique farm radio to play for the first time in probably 70 years or more. It has a nasty hum, because my cobbled-together "A" supply is not filtered well enough, but I heard two stations with just 2 feet of wire for an antenna. So I know the tubes are good, and I didn't make a major screw-up with the wiring.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 24, 2025 10:19 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Beavis at December 24, 2025 10:20 PM (nWPIJ)
Still probably the most-used photo of the Earth.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:20 PM (EXyHK)
When I was a kid somehow the line "that went out a decree from Caesar Augustus" really impressed upon me. Wow, this Caesar Augustus dude is a really big deal. Decreein' the whole world do stuff.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:20 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:15 PM
***
Stay tuned. A proper 2025 remembrance post is planned.
Posted by: TRex - lookback dino at December 24, 2025 10:20 PM (cCn4/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WZ1Fe1rsug
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:20 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 24, 2025 10:16 PM (tgvbd)
Amazing how fake bullshit sells.
At least when P.T. Barnum charged you a dime to see "The Great Egress," there was an actual exit.
Posted by: RickZ, Club ONT VIP at December 24, 2025 10:21 PM (gKDq2)
He was a big deal. That’s why only Brian Blessed could play him.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:21 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 24, 2025 10:21 PM (XV/Pl)
Wow, this Caesar Augustus dude is a really big deal. Decreein' the whole world do stuff.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:20 PM (w6EFb)
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Clean up your room, you little bastard.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 24, 2025 10:22 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:23 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: huerfano at December 24, 2025 10:23 PM (98kQX)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
Mista, they a lot o' them over here
All them folding chairs I put out is full
Posted by: Beloved 101 year old Custodian at December 24, 2025 10:23 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 24, 2025 10:24 PM (XV/Pl)
Don't I know it!
https://tinyurl.com/yfkmk248
Posted by: Ea-nasir at December 24, 2025 10:24 PM (A62KL)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 24, 2025 10:24 PM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at December 24, 2025 10:24 PM (jrgJz)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 24, 2025 10:24 PM (aKh6S)
Posted by: Penguin Liberation Front at December 24, 2025 10:25 PM (oftw2)
For the Hobby Thread may want to look at this guy's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylZ5KPDpvBk
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:25 PM (2GVsD)
Zimmerman captioned the photo (correctly displayed) with the note:
If you turn the book sideways so that the moon’s horizon is on the bottom, the picture will probably then look familiar, as this is how every publisher since 1968 has presented it. At Bill Anders’s home, however, it is framed with the moon’s horizon on the right. “That’s how I took it,” he says. To Anders, floating in zero gravity, the earth wasn’t rising from behind an horizon line (which is how a human living on a planet’s surface would perceive it). Instead, floating in a space capsule seventy miles above the moon, Anders saw himself circling the moon’s equator. The lunar horizon therefore appeared vertical to him, and the earth moved right to left as it came out from behind the moon.”
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
I decreed MORE, fat!
I think
Jill, don't look at me like that
Posted by: Joey B. at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:15 PM (yreN9)
Yes! Thank you for the reminder. I am alone tonight, be with the Horde in spirit. Speaking of spirits, it's rum time at Peon Manor!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM (npFr7)
The story is a real head-scratcher and is still unfolding. smh.
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM (rdVOm)
https://shorturl.at/r2hAQ
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM (ULPxl)
that reminds me...
T-Rex, an idea for a hobby thread for you:
Military Surplus stuff. You know, like those steel Ammo boxes, etc.
I don't have any mil-surplus stuff, but maybe the morons do.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:28 PM (yreN9)
Don't I know it!
https://tinyurl.com/yfkmk248
Posted by: Ea-nasir
Works for us
We basically own Iraq
Posted by: The descdants of Ea-Nasir's lawyer at December 24, 2025 10:28 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 10:29 PM (KDPiq)
For the Hobby Thread may want to look at this guy's channel:
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:25 PM
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Thank you!
Posted by: TRex - milk and cookies dino at December 24, 2025 10:29 PM (cCn4/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:29 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma
Of course. I was joking. Looks a lot like her, though.😉
Posted by: mindful webworker - did Tensor read Muse posts? at December 24, 2025 10:30 PM (uPdbI)
I am very blessed that I made it through a year cancer free.
My heart is praying (for what it's worth) for my wonderful Horde friends going through tough times.
I love you all, with all my heart!
I'd like to say thanx so much to our stand-in CoBs❣❣
My prayers so much for TiFW, pookiesgirl, and all Morons having struggles today. Please try and give it your all, and Merry Christmas.
"May the peace of Christ calm every storm in your heart.”
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 10:30 PM (LNeRu)
Posted by: huerfano at December 24, 2025 10:23 PM (98kQX)
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There's about 10 taquerias in the Mission called El Faro
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 24, 2025 10:30 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: Weather Or Not at December 24, 2025 10:30 PM (oftw2)
At least not in the general zeitgeist.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 24, 2025 10:24 PM (XV/Pl)
Raimondo was quacking about it the other night. But he is more of a poltergeist.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 24, 2025 10:30 PM (npFr7)
25 Luke is my favorite telling of the Christmas story.”
Luke is marvelous. When you read it closely it is obvious that Luke, like a good reporter, interviewed Mary late in her life, as his Gospel is the only one that contains a lot of information that only Mary could have personally known. (Such as the Magnificat and most of the Nativity details) Luke’s Gospel could almost be subtitled “Mary’s Story.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (7JH4o)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM
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Outstanding. Thank you! Added to the content inventory for next year.
Posted by: TRex - inflatable dino at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (cCn4/)
JAXA's moon orbiter took some spectacular "Earthrise" videos as well back in 2008.
First, whipping around the lunar south pole, which makes the earth's south pole be on top:
https://is.gd/XxQgkB
And a few months later, from the lunar north pole, with earth thus "right side up":
https://is.gd/evJbXE
The narration there is pretty annoying to me somehow.
Among many other things, that Kaguya probe mapped out the Moon's lumpy, non-spherical gravitational field to high resolution.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (yreN9)
Posted by: The descdent of Ancestors, unaborted at December 24, 2025 10:32 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 10:26 PM (rdVOm)
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The last report I read was he was stuck on a road trip and was calling you for a rescue.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM (7JH4o)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:28 PM (yreN9)
You could do a Hobby Thread on mil-surp gubs alone. Or vehicles alone. I have examples of both.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM (npFr7)
ME🥰
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM (LNeRu)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM (ULPxl)
Note the phases of the earth as seen from the Moon are 180 degrees out of phase. When it's a full Moon, it's a "new Earth" and vice versa. To get a full Earthrise like that, it has to be during a new Moon, with the Sun right behind the camera looking at Erf.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:34 PM (w6EFb)
All of you commenters are a gift that keeps giving. Well, except for trolls, lol.
Thank all ya'll, Ace and all the COBs who keep this wonderful place going.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 10:34 PM (3ek7K)
My ex-wife and I put out luminaria a couple of times when we lived in Virginia. Most of our neighborhood did, as well. It was. Pretty and pleasing to see streets and driveways outlined in candlelight.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 24, 2025 10:34 PM (xG4kz)
"May the peace of Christ calm every storm in your heart.”
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 10:30 PM
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Amen. Well said.
Posted by: TRex - little drummer dino at December 24, 2025 10:34 PM (cCn4/)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 24, 2025 10:34 PM (BI5O2)
I don't do it, misanthropic nonhumanitarian as I am. But nice if you do.
I really should start an NGO to fund it and pay myself a salary.
Just kidding. God bless us, everyone. The Savior is born!
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 24, 2025 10:34 PM (W4R97)
I’m assuming he’s the lower-right circle that is unattributed.
A meme isn’t a true meme unless it has a serious error somewhere.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 10:35 PM (EXyHK)
At least not in the general zeitgeist.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Kwaanza people
People who understand the term "Zeitgeist"
A Venn diagram even Kummala could draw
Posted by: Bishop Ralph of Shrewsbury at December 24, 2025 10:35 PM (f/3mU)
For the Hobby Thread may want to look at this guy's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylZ5KPDpvBk
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:25 PM (2GVsD)
I love these advanced models have you put together multiple parts that will never be seen once the model is complete. It's more than just having something to display.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 10:35 PM (KDPiq)
Dec. is a very volatile pressure month (all of winter usually is). Put that in monthly mode and look at the graph of the pressure there.
Still haven't beat Dec of 2024. And GSP set a daily high record for Dec. 24th of 75F, beating the old record in 1961 of 71F. Christmas Day record is 78F, set in 1955. It will get close to that.
Of course, I beat all that locally at 79F today. We'll see what it does tomorrow.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:36 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Nobody will have what he's having
Posted by: Liability aware bartender at December 24, 2025 10:37 PM (f/3mU)
Military Surplus stuff. You know, like those steel Ammo boxes, etc.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:28 PM
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Could be fun. Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted by: TRex - surplus destroyer dino at December 24, 2025 10:38 PM (cCn4/)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 10:38 PM (7JH4o)
Their 1/32 He 219 Uhu has 63 parts for each engine. There are wing spars. The mechanic's jump seat in the aft fuselage is included, though the chances are maybe 1% anyone will ever see it or the wooden floor back there.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:39 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM
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Mark has no nativity story.
Posted by: TRex - venn diagram dino at December 24, 2025 10:40 PM (cCn4/)
https://shorturl.at/tpS2m
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:40 PM (ULPxl)
But, that means I don't know people alone on Christmas. Everyone knows someone and goes somewhere.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 24, 2025 10:40 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 10:41 PM (KDPiq)
ME🥰
Posted by: COMountainMarie
Now see?
We CAN have nice things!
Posted by: banned commenter Imklos at December 24, 2025 10:41 PM (f/3mU)
This Fellow Jesus, Louis Cassels, 1973 — a great small book by a one-time religion editor for UPI. My well-thumbed copy is much yellowed and falling apart, front cover missing. I greatly appreciated his simple reportage of what is known about Jesus.
I see a good-condition copy on ebay for (gulp) $75. I think I'll just do my best to keep my copy together as long and best as I can.
Posted by: mindful webworker - did Tensor read Muse posts? at December 24, 2025 10:41 PM (uPdbI)
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You should stick around for the 2am brawls?
Posted by: Methos at December 24, 2025 10:41 PM (vSvIl)
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Posted by: mindful webworker - did Tensor read Muse posts? at December 24, 2025 10:41 PM (uPdbI)
Correct, Jesus was born in a plastic stable!
Posted by: Snopes at December 24, 2025 10:42 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:33 PM (ULPxl)
His Gospel should be added, immediately.
Posted by: Methos at December 24, 2025 10:43 PM (vSvIl)
Posted by: TRex - venn diagram dino at December 24, 2025 10:40 PM (cCn4/)
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Also, the earliest versions of Mark end at the discovery of the empty tomb. There are no post-crucifixion appearances of Jesus.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:44 PM (nWPIJ)
It ain't
Big City boys on their Vespas got no idea
Posted by: Darleen, Marleen, and Charleen, smothered and covered at December 24, 2025 10:44 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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He was 150 miles further away than he originally said-- too far for me to help in-person. Said he'd disconnect the trailer & drive into town for a spare tire. Uhhh... he needed the *whole wheel/tire assembly* as it had come off!
Said he would fix it and continue from ~Twin Falls to Tucson.
That was 2 weeks ago.
Oh, it gets
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 10:44 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: The Eyes of Nostrildamus at December 24, 2025 10:44 PM (oftw2)
Watching It's a Wonderful Life for the hundredth time and it continues to amaze and entertain. It rolls from comedy to pathos and back again.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (y171U)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (CHHv1)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 24, 2025 10:46 PM (5Ne9C)
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (p4NUW)
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Nice.
Merry Christmas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:46 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:47 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Timeline of History at December 24, 2025 10:47 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: Piper
Was it open?
Posted by: Context required at December 24, 2025 10:47 PM (f/3mU)
Walked through or walked into the front door?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:47
She open my door and walked through. She is here. I had no idea. J flew her in without telling me. I can’t believe it.
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:48 PM (p4NUW)
It was in the basement ant it looked like a fireplace.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:48 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:49 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 10:49 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:49 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (p4NUW)
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Nice. Have you performed a hunger and nutrition assessment?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 24, 2025 10:50 PM (A0sqA)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 24, 2025 10:50 PM (aKh6S)
We did Christmas different this year.
We live four blocks from our son, daughter-in-law and four grandchildren, ages 3 to 11.
They all came here today and we cooked them a huge brunch, opened presents and had a great time.
We have a very long hall in the middle of our house and the grandkids bring their roller skates and skate most of the time they're here.
This worked out because we wanted them all to enjoy Christmas day, staying in their pjs all day, not having to cook a big meal tomorrow.
Hubby and I actually enjoy Christmas Eve more than the big day.
Tomorrow they can enjoy their day without having to have the stress of cooking a huge meal. We sent them home with lots of already prepared food.
Enjoy your day and do whatever makes you happy, even if doesn't conform to the norm that people expect.
We watched/listened to beautiful music and it was great.
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 10:50 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 24, 2025 10:50 PM (aKh6S)
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Weird.
Posted by: George Foreman at December 24, 2025 10:51 PM (nWPIJ)
Watching It's a Wonderful Life for the hundredth time and it continues to amaze and entertain. It rolls from comedy to pathos and back again.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (y171
My favorite part is when they show the newspaper headline ,
HARRY BAILEY WINS THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR.
The reason is back in the day the horde would always complain when the news or someone would say win or Congressional. The admonition was that you are awarded . You do not win it and that it's just the Medal of Honor not Congressional MoH.
So every time I watch It's a Wonderful Life I think of aos and its personality.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 10:51 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:49 PM (2GVsD)
My big black cat is her cat. He is losing his kitty mind that she is here. He came RUNNING when he heard her voice.
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:51 PM (p4NUW)
Going to look for it.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)
Ah, nothing like Jews pretending to be Nazis while singing a Christian song.
Only in America.
Merry Christmas, everybody!
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 10:51 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: TRex - venn diagram dino at December 24, 2025 10:40 PM (cCn4/)
Biblical scholars believe Mark was the first written (probably by John Mark, mentioned in Acts) and it was very simple and brief. (And the original ending is missing, which is why it ends abruptly). Mark contains much which appears to have come from Peter personally.
Matthew took this framework and built on it, adding much of importance to Jewish Christians, many references to older scriptures, also accounts from Joseph.
Luke takes Marks framework and adds a very personal account from Mary, as well as saying more about Jesus’ relationship to women than any others.
And John is just …. John. Marches to his own cosmic drummer.
Luke
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 10:51 PM (7JH4o)
Posted by: Timeline of History at December 24, 2025 10:47 PM (oftw2)
They were temporally confused back then. None of the calendars had BC or AD on them. And don't get me started about the clocks...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 24, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Piper
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Awwww! That is SO AWESOME!
Merry Christmas, indeed!
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 10:52 PM (rdVOm)
I'll catch y'all on the flip side.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 24, 2025 10:52 PM (BI5O2)
We had too much wind and rain for luminaria, but there seem to be gunshots or fireworks nearby tonight.
Posted by: KT at December 24, 2025 10:52 PM (7vIsy)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 24, 2025 10:53 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2025 10:53 PM (pkeXY)
His sons Herod Antipas, Herod Archelaus and Daryl were nepo-baby hacks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 10:54 PM (nWPIJ)
After seeing a 47lb Maine Coon, big black cat though needs further elaboration.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:54 PM (2GVsD)
Often the MoH is confused with the Congressional Gold Medal, which is, yeah, a completely different thing (for one thing, the CGM is a civilian award, and can be given for any meritorious conduct, not just military valor).
The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the rough equivalent from the executive branch.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 10:54 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Piper
Oh, no! Was it your favorite door?
Posted by: t-bird at December 24, 2025 10:54 PM (gCsmq)
Piper,
What a wonderful gift for you. I know you will enjoy every moment of your daughter's visit.
Merry Christmas to you all!!
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 10:55 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 10:45 PM (p4NUW)
Nice!
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 10:55 PM (IG3/x)
I am listening to Tears For Fears, Songs from the Big Chair. This album is nearly flawless. I am on side 2 now (that's a reference to LP or cassette for those under 29). Broken, Head Over Heels and Listen.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 10:55 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 24, 2025 10:50 PM (aKh6S)
Herod The Great was responsible for the slaughter of the innocents.
Herod Antipater was around when Jesus was crucified. Jesus refused to speak to him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (yreN9)
Kwanzaa doesn't have nukes, yet.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (LNeRu)
Theories about just what the Star of Bethlehem was are also interesting. Kepler himself worked out there was a rare triple conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in 7 BC.
There was also a very close conjunction of Venus and Jupiter in 2 BC, never been that close since. But that would've been seen in the West at sunset, not the east.
Chinese astrologers recorded something, either a nova or comet in 5BC. It's thought very unlikely that a comet could be it, since they were considered very bad omens, not good ones, at the time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Piper
Good thing you weren't doing anything freaky...
... right ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (/lPRQ)
https://tinyurl.com/5n933xpv
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 10:57 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:57 PM (2GVsD)
Merry Christmas to all.
And to all, a good night.
Posted by: GWB at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (97Tsy)
Time Title Duration
22:56:26 Thou Didst Leave Thy Throne 4:02
22:55:07 To Us a Child of Hope Is Born 1:19
22:52:19 Hark! the Herald Angels Sing 2:48
22:48:32 Silent Night 3:48
https://www.fbcradio.org/
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (XeU6L)
There is some dispute over Herod's death occurring in 4BC. That has become "generally accepted", but there is still doubt. Could have been as late as 1 BC.
I remember a good hypothesis, involving that conjunction of Venus and Jupiter that would put the birth in spring of 2 BC.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (w6EFb)
I loved the guest appearance of Curt Smith on the TV show Psych .
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Otto Pen at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (sJHOI)
Posted by: Piper
Good thing you weren't doing anything freaky...
... right ?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 24, 2025 10:56 PM (/lPRQ)
Queue up the Horde jokes about kale dishes...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (ULPxl)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 24, 2025 10:59 PM (xSYff)
The country Pakistan is as fake as Kwanzaa.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 10:31 PM (yreN9)
I always snickered when Barky called it "PockyStohn".
Somehow he never called Afghanistan "OffGonnyStohn".
Fake intellectual muddafugga, that Barky.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 10:59 PM (IG3/x)
Just finished watching 3 Godfathers, a 1948 John Ford Western with John Wayne: very much an unusual Western, as three bank robbers find themselves promising a dying woman that they will care for her newborn baby -- in the middle of the AZ desert while a posse is hunting them. Nice stuff.
We had some homemade shortbread cookies and store-bought non-alco eggnog this evening. I walked Miss Linda back to her condo, and now I'm checking in with all of you as the "love light gleams."
I can't help but think back to Christmas Eves when I was young, as I guess we all do at this time of year. It's funny: I can recall what I received as gifts each year from the time I was about seven until I was thirteen. After that? The exact memory is gone. Oh, there are random items -- a topcoat Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 bought for me in about 1978, and a Harris Tweed sport coat No. 2 gave me ca. 1984 -- but most of them are gone. I wonder why that should be. . . .
What are you up to tomorrow?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9)
Found out days later, that BIL had *left the trailer at that rest area* instead of fixing it!!! Said he didn't mind losing it, was too expensive to fix and had more problems than last time I saw it (and it was pretty bad then), took his stuff out & went back to AZ without it.
So now-- 2 weeks later-- he's driving back to the rest area, because he forgot something, and thinks his trailer will still be there.
I told him to call State Patrol, that trailer was likely impounded by now & he's gonna have major problems.
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 11:00 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 11:02 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 24, 2025 10:50 PM (aKh6S)
Herod The Great was responsible for the slaughter of the innocents.
Herod Antipater was around when Jesus was crucified. Jesus refused to speak to him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 24, 2025
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Which younger Herod was it who knew the future emperor Claudius? I seem to recall it might have been Antipater's son.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:02 PM (wzUl9)
Although that event isn’t corroborated by any other contemporarneous sources, it’s very believable, because it’s known that Herod personally murdered his oldest son and heir, and also murdered his favorite wife. (Which caused him to go pretty mad by the end, wondering why he couldn’t get her back). He set up a secret police force that Stalin could have used as an example.
He was one hell of a murderous bastard.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:02 PM (7JH4o)
Wolfus,
Hubby and had our big day today with the grandkids.
Tomorrow we are going to relax and we are going to grill sausages, burgers and hotdogs.
Merry Christmas to you and Miss Linda and the furry beasts!!
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:02 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10:57 PM (2GVsD)
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You must have read Arthur C. Clarke's short story about a visit to the burned out planet that was all that was left of the system of a star that went supernova that was seen on Earth as the Star of Bethlehem.
I'm too seized with ennui to look up the title.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:03 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 10:55 PM (0aYVJ)
A One Hit Album wonder. (At least IMO.) There are worse things in life.
Posted by: RickZ, Club ONT VIP at December 24, 2025 11:03 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 11:04 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:04 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 10:49 PM (0aYVJ)
Your friends are not pulling your leg. A "normal" winter here has just enough snow and ice on the ground now to make getting around miserable. Oh, well:
"Climate is what you expect and weather is what you get."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 24, 2025 11:04 PM (A62KL)
Herod Agrippa.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:04 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: mindful webworker
We are having no room at this location
Posted by: Innkeeper Patel at December 24, 2025 11:04 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:02 PM (7JH
Died with dogs and full of maggots or maybe that was just wishful thinking.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 11:05 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:05 PM (2GVsD)
The cross stitch chart I bought on eBay arrived today, so I lugged all of my beading stuff back to the walk in closet in the back bedroom and dragged out my fiber bin to pull out what I needed. I haven't gone through whatever I tossed into the bin when we moved here three years ago and I got many happy surprises. There was all sorts of stuff I thought might have gotten lost in the process of moving. There was also a lot of stuff I'd totally forgotten about. So that was my Christmas present. (We don't give each other presents any more or just something small. We don't have room, not to mention it's too easy to order from Amazon when either of us wants something.)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at December 24, 2025 11:05 PM (DK5Sh)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 10:58 PM (KDPiq)
Saw a vidya of him and his daughter playing (I think) Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Kid has talent.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 11:05 PM (0aYVJ)
HARRY BAILEY WINS THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR.
The reason is back in the day the horde would always complain when the news or someone would say win or Congressional. The admonition was that you are awarded . You do not win it and that it's just the Medal of Honor not Congressional MoH.
So every time I watch It's a Wonderful Life I think of aos and its personality.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025
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Conclusion: The media was no more on the ball in 1946 than they are now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:05 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 24, 2025 11:06 PM (XeU6L)
We are having no room at this location
Posted by: Innkeeper Patel at December 24, 2025 11:04 PM (f/3mU)
Have Ramanujan contact Cantor. He has a solution for that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:06 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:06 PM (nWPIJ)
I'm too seized with ennui to look up the title.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025
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"The Star"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:06 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:07 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: browndog sitting in the dark at December 24, 2025 11:07 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:07 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 11:07 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:06 PM (nWPIJ)
Nope, different guy.
Herod Agrippa was Herod the Great's grandson.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:07 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Inmklos recalls a story by O. Henry at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (f/3mU)
You must have read Arthur C. Clarke's short story about a visit to the burned out planet that was all that was left of the system of a star that went supernova that was seen on Earth as the Star of Bethlehem.
I'm too seized with ennui to look up the title.
Posted by: Cicero
It was also a Twilight Zone story in 1985 called The Star.
www.imdb.com/title/tt0734723
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (2GVsD)
“The Star”. I read it in Isaac Asimov’s Twelve Frights of Christmas. It was probably the worst of a bad bunch. Clarke seemed to think he was presenting a wholly new and frightful view of the Christmas story, but he made no mention of the story of the Holy Innocents, which is a far more immediate frightful and unsettling part of Christmas. Both by its immediacy and the innocence of its victims it dwarfs Clarke’s more natural and more all-encompassing catastrophe.
That his narrator was a Jesuit made his ignorance of Herod’s massacre even more inexcusable, as it made the man’s crisis of faith inexplicable.
“The Nine Billion Names of God” was a far better story.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (7JH4o)
Posted by: Methos at December 24, 2025 10:43 PM (vSvIl)
ISWYDT
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 24, 2025 11:09 PM (FMtrg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 11:11 PM (f5220)
Posted by: pawn at December 24, 2025 11:11 PM (EMg+d)
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:11 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Timeline of History
Well, I wouldn't want to argue with a Fact!
The year 7BC is right, "some say." I've seen arguments for the month being either in the Spring, or late Summer to early Autumn. Cassels (op cit) reasons from the presence of the shepherds and their flocks: "to this day, Judean shepherds and sheep do [remain outside in the fields overnight], during the warm nights near the end of summer. So… September or early October seems the best guess…."
Posted by: mindful webworker - conjunction of planets in August 7BC at December 24, 2025 11:12 PM (uPdbI)
Posted by: Anna Puma
Great
Now what are we supposed to do with these hair combs and this watch fob?
Posted by: Soft hearted but practical Imklos at December 24, 2025 11:12 PM (f/3mU)
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They couldn't have been Achaemenids since Alexander the Great put paid to that empire in the 4th century BC. Parthians maybe?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:13 PM (nWPIJ)
Just looked that up. It's a theory from astronomer named Craig Chester.
Starting in Sept of 3 BC, there was a rare triple conjunction of Jupiter and the star Regulus -- "king" planet and "king star". 9 months later, June of 2BC, Jupiter then moved into conjunction with Venus. This conjunction was so close they would've appeared as a single bright object in the sky. Now, Jupiter is the king planet, and Venus is love and fertility.
To the astrologers of the time, that would've screamed "birth of a new king"...
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 11:13 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Benito Is Right Out, Too at December 24, 2025 11:14 PM (oftw2)
I know some are having a rough time this holiday, missing people, a bad year, lonely. You are in my prayers as God knows you, your heart and loves you.
Never feel loney here as there is always someone who understands and cares.
My back is killing me, I am exhausted, but know I am blessed beyond all measure. Tomorrow we go see our beloved grands an hour or two after a visit from Santa, so am going to bed (again in the guest room as the south wind blows 50mph gusts). Grab those memories tomorrow and relive the good ones.
By dinner tomorrow, after we return here and bake more cookies, I may need a full body cast and be wheeled in, but I'll be there. Can rest on Boxing Day. Advil and a heating pad R Me. Love y'all.
It takes special people to make me snort laugh, and y'all do nearly every night. XXXX
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 24, 2025 11:14 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 24, 2025 11:15 PM (31p00)
It's not too big a stretch to think the headline or article writer was ignorant. Nothing new about that in the media!
Posted by: mindful webworker - did Tensor read Muse posts? at December 24, 2025 11:15 PM (uPdbI)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025
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Brushing and combing, and if necessary scissors to cut the mats out. Most of my cats have not been happy to be brushed, though combing if done right was okay. So at least once in their lives the longhairs have had to be shaved -- the "lion cut" where only their heads, tails, and legs still have fur. They look funny as hell.
You could apply some cornstarch preemptively, to keep the grease down -- the oils that accumulate on the fur from your hands.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:15 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Beverly at December 24, 2025 11:16 PM (reMys)
Little got his first taste of blue crab marinara. Will never forget the look on his face. I told him it's even better when you catch the crabs yourself. We'll make that happen in '26 I'm certain, fresh from the Gulf of America!
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 24, 2025 11:16 PM (nbLIj)
In the ‘36 version, these three are bad hombres - they’re cold blooded killers. But they find a dying woman, and a baby, and their humanity comes back. They each do penance for their wrongs, and find redemption, but ONLY by willingly sacrificing their lives for an innocent, each one in turn. The last one makes it into town by drinking poisoned water, which lets him survive just long enough to take the baby into town and give it to the people there.
The John Wayne version goes soft on the point that true Redemption demands sacrifice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:17 PM (7JH4o)
Posted by: Benito Is Right Out, Too at December 24, 2025 11:14 PM (oftw2)
No British Kings named Richard after Richard "Dick" III. None named Henry after Henry VIII.
It would not surprise me if the name Benedict took a dive in popularity post-American Revolution.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:18 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (7JH4o)
If you are interested in the Magi, Antiochus, Nimrut Dag, the conjunction of Regulus and the Moon in Leo, the emblem of the crescent moon and a star, and other speculations on the star that guided the magi, you could look at this article by Ethical Skeptic.
He does have his own agenda, but his actual facts are pretty interesting even short of making any conclusions from them
https://tinyurl.com/4ujsevdz
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 11:18 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Beverly at December 24, 2025
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The most dramatic space flight of them all. Taking everything together, Eight topped Eleven, even with the latter's actual landing on the moon.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:18 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 24, 2025 11:15 PM (31p00)
So its true. That permanent record continues to follow us for ever.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2025 11:18 PM (2WIwB)
BIL is *already* 1/3 of the way back to the rest area. Didn't reply after I asked what he's gonna do if his trailer is no longer there.
Dumbass.
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 11:19 PM (rdVOm)
Santa and his crazy critters just landed on my roof!
I don't even have kids...
Now I have a fat guy stuck in my chimney (oh my! is that guy cussin')!
Now I'm going to have to explain my roof damage to insurance...
Jeez....this fat red guy and his 8 (why 8!) damn wanna-be elk...
This will be a pain in my insurance ass...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 11:20 PM (LNeRu)
Posted by: Beverly at December 24, 2025 11:16 PM (reMys)
I was a wee lad then, but I guarantee my Dad and Grandpa heard that. Grandpa was a NASA engineer during the Appollo missions.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 11:20 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Benito Is Right Out, Too
Ahem
Adolph Hitler Uunona rose to international attention in 2020 when news media reported that his full name was Adolf Hitler Uunona, after election to national office in Namibia, formerly German Southwest Africa
Posted by: Fun Facts with Imiklos at December 24, 2025 11:20 PM (f/3mU)
The John Wayne version goes soft on the point that true Redemption demands sacrifice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025
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Yes; I found it unsatisfying on some level, and you've put your finger on it.
I looked the 1936 version up. Chester Morris, Walter Brennan -- and Sidney ("Charlie Chan") Toler as a character called Professor Snape!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:21 PM (wzUl9)
Adolph Hitler Uunona rose to international attention in 2020 when news media reported that his full name was Adolf Hitler Uunona, after election to national office in Namibia, formerly German Southwest Africa
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Well, Africa.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:22 PM (nWPIJ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:15 PM (wzUl9)
Thank you, his fur is very fine. I trimmed the top off the dreds yesterday and mostly combed them out. He was not amused.
I have to turn it into a gentle roughhouse for him afterwards to be OK with it.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 11:22 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: tankascribe at December 24, 2025 11:22 PM (NtoJk)
Diogenes,
We were talking about permanent records today with our kids.
They believe, as we do, don't post anything on the internet about your children. They don't "do" facebook and other social media.
Son said with AI children's lives from their first newborn picture and forward there will always be a record on line about their lives.
The world has changed and it's scary.
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:22 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 11:23 PM (KDPiq)
Didn't reply after I asked what he's gonna do if his trailer is no longer there.
Dumbass.
Posted by: JQ
Some people are oblivious and wish to remain so.
Some times I wish I was more like that, for the "bliss," and all that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 11:23 PM (yreN9)
Have a lot to do to get ready for tomorrow so will mostly lurk tonight.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 24, 2025 11:23 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:23 PM (2GVsD)
I cannot rest until a problem is solved, or, at the very least, I formulate a Plan to resolve the issue.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 11:24 PM (yreN9)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 11:24 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: tankascribe at December 24, 2025 11:24 PM (NtoJk)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:25 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9)
Because neat and exciting kid's toys were replaced with boring and practical items such as socks, underwear, sweaters, etc.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025 11:25 PM (y171U)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025
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I know, right? The guy's BMI is off the charts. He's a coronary looking for a place to happen.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:26 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: tankdemon
Try Viagra
Posted by: Mrs. Santa at December 24, 2025 11:26 PM (f/3mU)
GRIT likes to air lots of Randolph Scott.
Once I heard ol' Randolph was a pickle smoocher, I couldn't un-see it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 11:26 PM (yreN9)
And yet, he was perfect for Slayer. One of my favorites. Best Slayer was Lombardo Slayer.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 11:26 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 24, 2025 10:09 PM (XV/Pl)
Why would anybody need that many Dec 2nd's?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 24, 2025 11:27 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025
Because neat and exciting kid's toys were replaced with boring and practical items such as socks, underwear, sweaters, etc.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025
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I do believe you've hit on it. At least since I left home it's been like that. Generally, if I wanted something "exciting," I bought it for myself.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:27 PM (wzUl9)
Some times I wish I was more like that, for the "bliss," and all that.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Yeah. I understand.
This guy is 70yrs old. You'd think he'd have a clue, but no: he's been *chronically dependent* all his adult life.
I'm in no position to be his surrogate mommy and refuse to do so.
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 11:28 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 24, 2025 11:28 PM (QVmho)
On one of the President’s NORAD calls, the kid asked him if Santa would take it personally if they didn’t leave out cookies. Trump recommended definitely leaving out the cookies. Don’t know if the kid asked it randomly or if he saw the MAHA video about Santa going with the carrots for Rudolph instead and was worried. It was funny.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 24, 2025 11:28 PM (EXyHK)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 24, 2025 11:28 PM (znREB)
Posted by: Santa Imklos, or else at December 24, 2025 11:28 PM (f/3mU)
I had a link to an online article by a fellow who used computer modeling to verify the conjunction three times in 7BC. Alas the link is dead now. The Internet is not really always Forever as they say.
Oh, wait, wait. Thanks to the wonder of websearch I found it.
https://bit.ly/star-of-wonder
"I have modelled them on a computer, and the one which I favour is a triple conjunction (ie three successive
conjunctions) of Jupiter and Saturn, in 7 BC. At the end of May that year they approached within a degree of
each other – equivalent to about two widths of the moon. This was visible in the east, in the couple of hours
before sunrise. They then separated and joined up again at the beginning of October, again within a degree, this
time visible all night, moving with the stars from east to west. Finally, at the beginning of December, the two
planets approached again just a degree apart, in the south, moving south-west and west during the evening."
Posted by: mindful webworker - did Tensor read Muse posts? at December 24, 2025 11:28 PM (uPdbI)
Exact birthdate doesn't really matter to me
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 11:02 PM (KDPiq)
Yes, and he called himself divine in the NT. No doubt about that. He called himself both the Son of David, and the Father of David.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025 11:30 PM (y171U)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 24, 2025 11:11 PM (f5220)
Augustus was mentioned upthread - it’s really fascinating to think about how Rome was involved in this story. Rome had been in a civil war with itself for a century, before that was the war with Carthage, war with the Greeks, wars all over, culminating in the great play for control by Antony and Cleopatra.
Finally, Octavian wins all. For the first time in centuries (maybe ever) there’s peace all around the Mediterranean, there’s a culture with a common language where ideas can spread easily, there’s safety and security where commerce and ideas can grow rapidly.
So Octavian changes his name to Augustus, and what is one of the very first orders he gives? He makes a decree sending Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem, and the Christmas story - and the Christian era - begins. As if all that had come before was a preparation for this Advent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:30 PM (7JH4o)
Posted by: JQ
If "surrogate mommy" means Dr. DOCTOR Jill,
count me out
Posted by: independently living Imklos at December 24, 2025 11:30 PM (f/3mU)
we did not have to have The Talk.
Hell, I had it figured out when I was five. Just play along, get the loot.
I was way more upset to learn what my parents did to get more kids. *shudders*
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 11:31 PM (0aYVJ)
What to I want for Christmas? Peach on Earth Goodwill toward Man.
What will I accept for Christmas?
Venezuela, Cuba, peace and Independence for the Western Hemisphere.
God Bless and let's get it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:31 PM (2ef5s)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2025 11:06 PM (nWPIJ)
Nope, different guy.
Herod Agrippa was Herod the Great's grandson.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:07 PM (IG3/x)
Agrippa was a whole other kind of asshole.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:32 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: Pug Mahon,
We raised you
And it worked
Posted by: Ma and Pa at December 24, 2025 11:33 PM (f/3mU)
As for me, I have a new pipe tobacco to try, called Old Joe Kranz Blue Label. (Yes, they give pipe tobaccos odd names like that. There is a blend called "Corn Cob Pipe and a Button Nose," and another called "Awakened Elder.") I'm tempted to order an estate (read: "used") pipe on one of the vendor sites, but of course I wouldn't receive it until close to New Year's.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:33 PM (wzUl9)
(grumble, grumble... get banninated to get out of working... grumble, grumble) Neat trick, buddy.
Merry Christmas anyway & good to see you again!
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 11:33 PM (rdVOm)
If you're interested, Stellarium can easily run the sky back to the sky circa Year Zero (1 BC). Download the desktop version to do it. Online and mobile, while nice, don't have the full capability to do this so easily.
Also for full accuracy, download the JPL DE430 or DE440 high precision ephemerides files for Stellarium.
With that you can run the sky back and see all those conjunctions mentioned above.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)
And there is one other big source of cash for those generals - all of those blue barrel’s in all of those drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 09:13 PM (7JH4o)
dealing with the money is usually the easy route. Someone is bankrolling Maduro, someone is bankrolling the cartels and someone is bankrolling the ELN. It sure as Hell isn't Cuba and Russia anymore.
Also since there is a lot of money in that oil and in the cocaine being captured and blowed up in the Gulf, some banks are starting to feel the pinch from not having their cut from laundering it, and some governments are starting to really wonder where the money to cover the losses from graft is comin from.
we have been killing people for all my life and it hasn't worked, besides make a lot of people who aren't related to me really rich. I don't think that approach is going to work this time either.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 11:33 PM (rbvCR)
I will never put milk and cookies on my mantel for the fat red one again...
Maybe out in the meadow.
That guy's wrecked my roof too many times...
Is there actually a Santa trap?!
I could do so much with that...money to be made$$$....
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 11:34 PM (LNeRu)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 11:23 PM (KDPiq)
Poleese dat moostash!!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Stay Fresh, Cheese Bags at December 24, 2025 11:34 PM (0aYVJ)
Posted by: tcn in AK
GI Joe with Kung Fu Grip>>>Agrippa
Posted by: Imklosius at December 24, 2025 11:34 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:35 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I can do that with grade school. I can remember every teacher and class except 5th grade. Not one memory.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025 11:35 PM (c115l)
Posted by: JQ
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You married his brother not his family.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:35 PM (2ef5s)
Chy na.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025 11:36 PM (c115l)
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:37 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: JQ
I'm waiting for the No Tax on Tips or Overtime to kick in January 1st
The CoB who banned me (again) had no idea how much PTO I had accumulated.
Posted by: Imklos needs some Personal Days at December 24, 2025 11:38 PM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:08 PM (7JH4o)
Read an interesting piece once suggesting that Daniel taught some members of the Magi of his time about the prophecies of the coming of the Messiah when he was given authority over the king's magicians during his Persian captivity.
Posted by: KT at December 24, 2025 11:38 PM (7vIsy)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:38 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 24, 2025 11:38 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: tankascribe at December 24, 2025 11:39 PM (NtoJk)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:30 PM (7JH4o)
Go farther. God tells Eve she will crush the serpent. She did, when Mary said yes to Gabriel.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:39 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025
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Grade and junior high school, not too bad a problem; not really tough in high school either. Remembering which class was in which period is tougher. After that, college? Fuhgeddaboutit. I can remember certain classes clearly, usually ones with a good-looking graduate student teaching it, but I may or may not recall her name.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:39 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 24, 2025 11:39 PM (nbLIj)
It's almost Christmas Day on eastern time.
Since we moved from eastern time out here to Mountain Time I still get discombulated about the time difference.
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:40 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:18 PM (wzUl9)
Yes, and no rescue LEM like Apollo 13. It took big balls to do that.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025 11:40 PM (y171U)
What is the possibility we could bomb the living shit out of China?
Posted by: four seasons
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Peking is about 700 miles from the coast of Korea.
It's within cruise missile range. If we wanted to we could mess up Xi's day, incredibly so.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:41 PM (2ef5s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 11:41 PM (2GVsD)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 24, 2025 11:42 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:42 PM (2ef5s)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Also funny is that I have neither of those items still. They would still fit me and were good quality; but they both vanished at some point over the ensuing decades.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:42 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:43 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:43 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025
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True. But they were the first humans to leave Earth orbit, the first to orbit another body of the Solar System, and went farther from Earth -- 250K miles or so -- than anyone had ever gone in history.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:45 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 24, 2025 11:30 PM (7JH4o)
Go farther. God tells Eve she will crush the serpent. She did, when Mary said yes to Gabriel.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:39 PM (6Bc8
That conversation between Mary and Gabriel is why I get upset when I see people on social media referring to Jesus' birth as an "unplanned pregnancy."
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 11:46 PM (sjyPY)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 11:46 PM (LNeRu)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:45 PM (wzUl9)
As I recall, it was rather scary and way cool. Pretty much any huge box eventually became a space module. We didn't have live tv yet in AK but we listened on the radio.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:47 PM (6Bc88)
Book of Revelations was written, when, 50 years after Jesus?
Those people, back then, probably thought Jesus would Return in their lifetime, yes?
And that became the case for every generation since -- people believing Jesus will return in their lifetime.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 11:47 PM (yreN9)
Apollo 8 did enter lunar orbit, completing 10 lunar orbits.
The forthcoming Artemis II mission, which may launch in Feb. will basically be a repeat of Apollo 8, however it will not enter lunar orbit, just take a far figure 8 free return trajectory. They'll get farther from the Moon than Apollo, and will set the record for greatest distance of humans from earht.
Returning, they will also break the speed record,coming in hotter than any Apollo mission did. Apollo 13, which did use free return, set the previous distance record, and Apollo 10 set the speed record.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 11:47 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 11:24 PM (sjyPY)
I left out some venison jerky and a compound bow and Ted Nugent left me a new rifle.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:48 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 24, 2025 11:48 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025
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Yes, and no rescue LEM like Apollo 13. It took big balls to do that.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 24, 2025
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True. No chance of rescue if something had gone wrong.
Plus the flight happened at the end of a particularly tumultuous year in American and world history. In '88, I recall one of the local radio stations running a special series on "1968: A Year Like No Other." Up to that point anyway, '68 really was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:48 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: tankdemon at December 24, 2025 11:46 PM (sjyPY)
She said yes. She didn't say, "Grab a condom."
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:48 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 24, 2025 11:48 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 24, 2025 11:49 PM (LNeRu)
🎄Heap o' Christmas Videos 2025
https://bit.ly/heap-o-xmas-vids-2025
🎄Heap o' Commercial Christmas Links 2025 (in case you missed the link before)
https://bit.ly/heap-o-xmas-ads-2025
🎄Twelve Days of Madness (as serialized on AOS last year)
https://bit.ly/12-crazy-days
🎄Santa, Dear Friends
For those who may have come to doubt the old elf (text, ill.)
https://bit.ly/santa-dear-friends
🎄Journey to Bethlehem
A simple trip to pay the taxes becomes a life-or-death nightmare for a new family
A cartoon-illustrated take on the Nativity story
https://bit.ly/bethlehem-journey
🎄Mindful Webworkshop Episode #16 - Christmas
A politically incorrect and culturally inappropriate Christmas show - pop song parodies and original tunes sure to put coal in my stocking. From back in 2016. (vid 11:02)
https://bit.ly/webworkshop-016
That should hold you for twelve days.
Posted by: mindful webworker - jingle them bells at December 24, 2025 11:49 PM (uPdbI)
After seeing a 47lb Maine Coon, big black cat though needs further elaboration.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 24, 2025 10
He is a Savannah, he is very big. He weighs 25 pounds. But is tall and thin. A 47 pound Maine Coon is a fat Maine Coon!
Posted by: Piper at December 24, 2025 11:49 PM (p4NUW)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
Ephemerides? For Stellarium?
They musta learnt you good at the Cow Kollidge
Posted by: Imklos will Just Trust at December 24, 2025 11:51 PM (f/3mU)
Book of Revelations was written, when, 50 years after Jesus?
Those people, back then, probably thought Jesus would Return in their lifetime, yes?
And that became the case for every generation since -- people believing Jesus will return in their lifetime.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 24, 2025 11:47 PM (yreN9)
Letters of Paul were in the '50s. Revelations probably by about 110 or so. Paul believed it would happen in his lifetime but of course that was cut short.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:51 PM (6Bc88)
Posted by: tankdemon
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"unplanned" by who ?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 24, 2025 11:52 PM (XeU6L)
Genesis 3:15
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
God is talking to the serpent, though Eve probably overheard it, about Christ, not Eve ('his' specifies a masculine descendant).
Posted by: Methos at December 24, 2025 11:52 PM (vSvIl)
She should reach the GOLA, USA in about six days time
GOLA
Galveston Offshore Lightering Area
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:53 PM (2ef5s)
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:53 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025 11:36 PM (c115l)
China is buying the oil, but China is not terribly good at force projection. I think the support was coming from USAID, NED, and the EU. There is noise that Iran is also involved in the chain, and that means it is tied into Hamas and other militias. There have been accusations that Hamas was training in Venezuela.
It is either a rope of sand trying to tie them all together, or it is a house of cards because none of the players have enough money to survive without the cocaine shipments and the oil, and still force some sort of fight.
It is important to identify the problem before trying to solve it. You wind up pushing on doors marked "pull" and figure you have to push harder.
Dry up the funding and half the problem is solved.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 24, 2025 11:53 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:54 PM (2ef5s)
They were all, during TLI (trans-lunar injection) placed on a free return trajectory in case the SM engine didn't fire. Once they entered lunar orbit, however, they needed that engine to get out and come back.
Looking it up, the free return trajectory was used up to Apollo 11. This limited the range of landing sites, and for Apollo 12 and later, they used a different trajectory. Apollo 13 had to fire the lunar model descent engine to get back on a good free return path.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 11:54 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: COMountainMarie
I ain't even started on the Christmas Punch yet.
It needs to ferment a bit overnight
Posted by: Merry Imklos, trying to figure out what an Elf Dance would even look like, but trying at December 24, 2025 11:54 PM (f/3mU)
I kept it, replacing the battery each year and putting it on a Speidel Twist-o-Flex bracelet (remember those?) after several leather straps, for many years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:54 PM (wzUl9)
Ephemerides is the sister of Clitorides.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 24, 2025 11:55 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025
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Tell that to the stranded Chinamen.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:55 PM (2ef5s)
Posted by: Braenyard
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Thank you for that, Braenyard. I've helped as much as I'm able, already: physical work on repairs, parts, clothes, food, money...
Still, it's difficult to not feel like a Grinch, especially this time of year, but the man has had many more years *and* many more resources than me, to get his life sorted.
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 11:56 PM (rdVOm)
We will keep the ship
_Trump
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Braenyard
All seized tankers should be immediately be renamed "WD-40"
Posted by: Merry Cap'm Imklos, thinking of Cap'n New Dawn Jim at December 24, 2025 11:57 PM (f/3mU)
Merry Christmas, all, and to all a good night!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2025 11:57 PM (wzUl9)
Krampus stopped by to rest up before he goes on his annual Yuletide spree. Also, he wanted to catch up on the latest fNCAA football. He is fixed upon Ole Miss, delighting in their defeat of Mississippi State and their victories in the play-offs. He is also deeply infuriated with Laine Kiffin. The last few days have been a near-endless chants of Hotty Toddy. Someday I must tell you the story of how he rescued me from Ayn Rand's ongoing Stockholm Sydrome. I will say this much: he engineered a pimp slapping contest between her and Cthulhu. Once more, Werner sends all his best Yuletide wishes to the Horde. At this moment Krampus is high overhead, complaining endless about how this frigid air is freeze drying his....wedding tackle, shall we say, Ach.
Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at December 24, 2025 11:57 PM (VqnfR)
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 24, 2025 11:48 PM (6Bc8
The other variant I've seen is trying to pretend they were kind of illegal alien, when the Bible SPECIFICALLY says that they went to Bethlehem because that was Joseph's NATIVE TOWN.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:57 PM (IG3/x)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025 11:57 PM (c115l)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
We say the Left can't meme.
The Left can't Bible either.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2025 11:58 PM (c115l)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
The point of occlusion is called the G-Spot
Posted by: Imklos, pre-med at December 24, 2025 11:58 PM (f/3mU)
It is important to identify the problem before trying to solve it. You wind up pushing on doors marked "pull" and figure you have to push harder.
Dry up the funding and half the problem is solved.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Or you point a shotgun at the handle and blow the fucker open.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:58 PM (2ef5s)
It's bizarre.
Posted by: four seasons
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Had high temp of 59 here in the middle of Idaho today. Raining lightly & steadily now & still not quite 50F. Yeah, pretty warm for Christmas.
Posted by: JQ at December 24, 2025 11:59 PM (rdVOm)
JQ,
There is no reason for you to feel any guilt about him.
You have enough stuff to contend with right now.
We can't be saviors for people who have wrecked their lives. So many people try to guilt us into helping them to solve their problems.
Stay strong and let him deal with the mess he's made of his life.
Posted by: four seasons at December 24, 2025 11:59 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 24, 2025 11:59 PM (snZF9)
"And to all a good night".
Posted by: From about That Time at December 25, 2025 12:00 AM (sl73Y)
Posted by: Imklos with traditional Austro-Hungarian style at December 25, 2025 12:00 AM (f/3mU)
OK, you made me look it up.
Lightering
Lightering is the process of transferring cargo between vessels of different sizes, usually between a barge and a bulker or oil tanker. Lightering is undertaken to reduce a vessel's draft so it can enter port facilities that cannot accept large, fully loaded, ocean-going vessels.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 25, 2025 12:00 AM (pkeXY)
This times 1000.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 25, 2025 12:01 AM (lUFok)
Stay strong and let him deal with the mess he's made of his life.
Posted by: four seasons
+1 and Amen.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 25, 2025 12:01 AM (rghSL)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:03 AM (3ek7K)
I hope you all have a lovely and magical Christmas Day. I love you all to pieces. I will continue to pray and send my best to you all for this wonderful day!
Thanks Mr. Rex and all of you CoBs, wherever you are🥰!
Peace and good night 💕
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 25, 2025 12:03 AM (LNeRu)
That is probably a Maine Coon mixed with a Bombay. He has the same head and face as my black tom, and the same look of offense.
Bombays can run 20 lbs
Posted by: Kindltot at December 25, 2025 12:04 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:04 AM (3ek7K)
It is either a rope of sand trying to tie them all together, or it is a house of cards because none of the players have enough money to survive without the cocaine shipments and the oil, and still force some sort of fight.
It is important to identify the problem before trying to solve it. You wind up pushing on doors marked "pull" and figure you have to push harder.
Dry up the funding and half the problem is solved.
Posted by: Kin
cocaine is a hell of a drug,
rick james
Posted by: n at December 25, 2025 12:04 AM (1/MxA)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 25, 2025 12:05 AM (rghSL)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Is also Merry Christmasings!
We are wait kind help for local bike shop of Novdu. We are having helmets with spikes, from old Grandfathers, but Youngs say need for speed and why always leaking the oilings of Big American Davidson-Harlyings?
Posted by: Official Novdu Informations at December 25, 2025 12:05 AM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 25, 2025 12:06 AM (nbLIj)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 25, 2025 12:06 AM (R4u51)
Posted by: Hunter Biden, Esq - artist at December 25, 2025 12:06 AM (lUFok)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:06 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 25, 2025 12:08 AM (viF8m)
I had to look it up. From Apollo 12 and onwards, the initial trajectory to the Moon was just a highly elliptical orbit that would fall short of the Moon, and come back to earth. So, they were still okay if the SM engine didn't fire.
After docking with the LM and all that, they did a systems check, and then fired the SM engine to put them on the desired trajectory to reach the Moon, but it was not free return.
Apollo 13 had already done that maneuver. They were counting on using the LM engine if there was problem, which there was. If the LM engine hadn't fired properly, they would've been fucked.
Coming back, they also did another burn to speed up the return to earth. With the power constraints, they probably would've been fucked without that speed-up as well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 25, 2025 12:08 AM (w6EFb)
Lightering is the process of transferring cargo between vessels of different sizes, usually between a barge and a bulker or oil tanker. Lightering is undertaken to reduce a vessel's draft so it can enter port facilities that cannot accept large, fully loaded, ocean-going vessels.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
That is how I Darleen in the front door sometimes
Pee and try again
Posted by: Imkos tries. And pushes. And lubricates the door frame at December 25, 2025 12:08 AM (f/3mU)
Merry Christmas, Horde-- I'd be bonkers without all of you.
Ugh. Think I'll mix a drink...
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:09 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 25, 2025 12:06 AM (nbLIj)
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Someone needs to invest in a calendar.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 25, 2025 12:09 AM (nWPIJ)
I'm drinking a lot of wine to night, so just put up with me, lol.
My favorite Christmas song is O Holy Night. Last night we watched/listened to Jenniffer Nettles, of Sugarland, sing the song. Her rendition is so powerful. It brought tears to our eyes.
The only accompaniment she had was a guy playing the guitar.
It was so moving and I recommend watching it on the boob tube.
It was the video that was on Sirius.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:10 AM (3ek7K)
----
That cat is not 47lbs. It's a big cat but no way it's 47lbs. Probably 25 at most. I have a Maine Coon mix kitten that's almost 11lbs at 9 months. He looks full Maine coon.
I'm ready to kill the dog. I made an apple pie today. It turned out great, looked great. Had it on the counter to cool... I no longer have anything to bring to the in-laws house tomorrow...😱🤯🤨😡
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 25, 2025 12:11 AM (VCgbV)
And I will put enmity between thee (the serpent) and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (her seed - Jesus) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
It was our Lord's crucifixion that defeated satan, bruised his head. The Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.
Thank you Father for sending your Only Begotten Son! That through your gift of faith in Him we have life eternal.
Thank you Jesus, our Lord and Saviour, for being obedient, even unto death. Help me to be obedient unto you.
In Jesus name above all names I ask!
Posted by: TeeJ at December 25, 2025 12:11 AM (T08Hw)
Posted by: H1-Z Imklos at December 25, 2025 12:12 AM (f/3mU)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 25, 2025 12:12 AM (rghSL)
Just got here, going to read the comments, nice ONT, thanks!
I've put out luminaries before. They are beautiful and easy: brown paper bags, sand, and tea light candles.
Thanks for the note about checking in on loved ones who may be struggling.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 25, 2025 12:12 AM (igoLh)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 25, 2025 12:13 AM (nWPIJ)
youtube.com/watch?v=Mn_y3nVUmGk
Posted by: gp at December 25, 2025 12:13 AM (GHIyr)
OK, you made me look it up.
Lightering
Lightering is the process of transferring cargo between vessels of different sizes, usually between a barge and a bulker or oil tanker. Lightering is undertaken to reduce a vessel's draft so it can enter port facilities that cannot accept large, fully loaded, ocean-going vessels.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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And what's up the street from GOLA?
Exxon, one of the only refineries capable of mass reduction to Venezuelan tar.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:13 AM (2ef5s)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 24, 2025 11:57 PM (IG3/x)
I usually take that "illegal alien" bit to be about their running to Egypt, which, if I understand it correctly, in modern parlance, would have been like moving from Puerto Rico to Guam.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 25, 2025 12:14 AM (sjyPY)
There was a group in the MA town I used to live in that would spend days lining the roads with luminaries, candles in white bags. The tradition was on Christmas Eve people would turn their car headlights off and drive around by the light of the luminaries and Christmas decorations. It was really pretty.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 25, 2025 12:15 AM (viF8m)
Posted by: Cicero
I think it's in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3kQlsW3JxY
Posted by: Swingin' it Imklos at December 25, 2025 12:15 AM (f/3mU)
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There is a great danger that our sympathy and heartfelt caring can become enabling.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2025 12:16 AM (XeU6L)
The only difference is only one of them was an intentional idiot.
Posted by: JB1000 at December 25, 2025 12:18 AM (/gRa9)
Posted by: gp at December 25, 2025 12:18 AM (GHIyr)
JQ,
Have your drink and try to relax.
You are having tough times now. The main thing is not to feel responsible about your b-i-law.
Hubby and I have been in that position with a couple of family members and, you know what? Everything we did to help them did no good. They are still in the shitholes they have made of their lives.
Good people try to help others and most of the time it doesn't do anything for them and makes our lives worse.
I'm not trying to be bossy, lol, well sometimes I am.
Take care of your husband and you and that is all that matters.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:19 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
It's when the ululations start
Posted by: Imlos notices that the drums have also stopped at December 25, 2025 12:20 AM (f/3mU)
Mike Hammer,
You are correct!
Merry Christmas to you and I hope the bears up there leave you alone, lol.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:21 AM (3ek7K)
Heard some celebratory gunfire a little while ago. No fireworks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
Thugs shooting at Santa.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 25, 2025 12:21 AM (pkeXY)
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Worth the watch, Nettles, Oh Come Oh Come Emmanuel
https://shorturl.at/v7rO3
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2025 12:21 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 24, 2025 11:58 PM (2ef5s)
It doesn;t matter how much force you use if you don't understand the problem. You missed where I said "we have been killing people for all my life and it hasn't worked, besides make a lot of people who aren't related to me really rich."
Your blood, their wealth.
Your addiction, their wealth.
Your children sacrificed, their wealth.
This isn't winning.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 25, 2025 12:22 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 25, 2025 12:09 AM (nWPIJ)
It's Florida. Fireworks stores are open all year round here...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 25, 2025 12:22 AM (nbLIj)
Posted by: four seasons
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Yes. That IS all that really matters.
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:22 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:23 AM (3ek7K)
They've got the Artemis II SLS rocket boosters all decked out with an "America 250" logo. I think Trump is going to make a big deal out of this as part of the 250 year festivities.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 25, 2025 12:24 AM (w6EFb)
--
Sounds good to me.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:25 AM (2ef5s)
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your wonderful wife.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:04 AM (3ek7K)
Thanks, and to you as well!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 25, 2025 12:26 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Mick at December 25, 2025 12:27 AM (HFx9z)
JQ,
The only thing that matters now is you and your husband.
I'm almost 80 y/o and I speak from experience. We cannot let guilt rule our lives. I wished I had learned that many years ago.
You are a wonderful person.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:28 AM (3ek7K)
Just an educated guess on my part.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2025 12:28 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Official Novdu Informations at December 25, 2025 12:05 AM (f/3mU)
They haven't leaked since 1984. You sure you're not wearing the helmet spike on the inside? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 25, 2025 12:28 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:29 AM (2ef5s)
And there's a significant chance that they won't survive.
Posted by: pawn at December 25, 2025 12:30 AM (EMg+d)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Wolfus beat me to it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 25, 2025 12:30 AM (XeU6L)
I'm so old, I remember this
https://twitter.com/i/status/2003157180179186013
God Bless us, every one
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim at December 25, 2025 12:30 AM (f/3mU)
They haven't leaked since 1984. You sure you're not wearing the helmet spike on the inside? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Glad they figured it out.
But you know
my Kohler has been leaking since the middle of 2000 and it's still leaking. Just add oil up to the fill line and crank it up.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:33 AM (2ef5s)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:33 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Says here...Mike Hammer...one (1) figgy pudding
*adjusts monocle, and glances over in a kindly way*
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim, keeping records like his Dad at December 25, 2025 12:33 AM (f/3mU)
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:34 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:35 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: four seasons
Dittos
You also have Dixie doggie tail wags.
Which has got to be good for something
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim, thankful and prayerful at December 25, 2025 12:35 AM (f/3mU)
Posted by: PabloD at December 25, 2025 12:36 AM (Epuwl)
Posted by: four seasons
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*blushes*
Don't know about wonderful, but I *do* wonder a lot... heh.
Merry Christmas, 4s. And thank you.
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:36 AM (rdVOm)
God Bless us, every one
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim
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Merry Christmas, Miklos.
_ . - > MERRY CHRISTMAS to ALL !!!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:36 AM (2ef5s)
Son #1 just left. We co hosted my brother and his family plus my SiL 89 yo dad. He’s a lovely gentleman. Parkinson’s. He’s Jami g in there though and, if you take the time, has lovely comments to add to conversation.
Son stayed to help with initial cleanup. Dishwasher running. I will leave my
Depression era glassware for tomorrow morning when I am more coordinated.
Love to you all. Just me and Lucy now. son will be here in the morning for crab cakes and presents.
I am so very blessed.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 25, 2025 12:37 AM (IhIKR)
*mixes one more*
Posted by: JQ
Dammit
No
Gosh darn it
*checks Amazon for one of those automatic drink maker machines*
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim, starting gift list for 2026 at December 25, 2025 12:38 AM (f/3mU)
Hubby and I are retired.
He does his thing and I do my thing, perks of being retired.
He amazed me last when I told him I know I read AOS most of the day. He told me it's your community.
He is right, geez, I hate to admit he's right about something, lol.
We are a community here, not the commie type of community.
We are all blessed by Ace.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:39 AM (3ek7K)
Ahhhhh... that feels pretty good.
*mixes one more*
Posted by: JQ
---
Hey ho, I'm having extras too.
--- is it sleigh bells or tinnitus? only your dr knows for sure
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:39 AM (2ef5s)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:40 AM (3ek7K)
I watched "Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans" a few weeks ago and I have to say, your use of "GatorCam" was sheer genius.
I guess you didn't finish your Hallmark Christmas movie in time to show it this year. Hopefully, next year we get to see Nick Cage as the cocaine-crazed small town guy who shows the city girl the True Meaning of Christmas.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 25, 2025 12:41 AM (A62KL)
MiladyJo fed these three dogs and our cat, then went down to the old house near the gate to feed the various feral kitties down there, then went to feed and check on Son's two dogs and cat since he's working late, then went by Daughter's to check on their two cats. That's five dogs, four house cats, and a pack of ferals. I just sat here and hung out with the feral Morons on the ONT.
About 40 minutes until Midnight here in God's best time zone, so it's time to leave and go do some final Christmasy things.
Silent Night (Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht)
Edison Male Quartette (1905)
https://youtu.be/yA7dj7wBONY
Sweet dreams of sugar plum fairies, y'all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - keep it simple, keep it sweet at December 25, 2025 12:42 AM (uPdbI)
Posted by: Sobek at December 25, 2025 12:42 AM (sazW1)
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim,
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Pony up 20k, Tesla Optimus not only makes your drink it brings it to you.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:42 AM (2ef5s)
Posted by: Werner Herzog Has Opinions at December 25, 2025 12:43 AM (VqnfR)
Posted by: Braenyard
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LOL! My tinnitus gets so loud sometimes, I wonder if *other people* can hear it too!
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:44 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 25, 2025 12:44 AM (npFr7)
I remember your nic as a frequent commentator.
Posted by: Opinion fact at December 25, 2025 12:44 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 25, 2025 12:45 AM (viF8m)
Miklos,
Hubby and I were laughing with oldest son tonight about a dog we had a couple of decades named Dixie. She was a cocker spaniel and was the meanest dog we've ever had. We're sure she was an inbreed dog from unscrupulous breeders. We kept her until her old age but it was a trial.
Meanest bitch we've ever had, lol.
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:45 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim
Have you considered an IV slow-drip of pure ethanol? No more having to get off the couch. No more messing with those pesky bottles of mixer.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 25, 2025 12:46 AM (A62KL)
Is Tigger that (formerly little) kitten what you found in the shop a while back?
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:46 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Braenyard
*invests 20k in Tesla shares*
This might work
Posted by: Tiny Imklos Tim, nickel and dime and lithium investor at December 25, 2025 12:47 AM (f/3mU)
But you know
my Kohler has been leaking since the middle of 2000 and it's still leaking. Just add oil up to the fill line and crank it up.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 25, 2025 12:33 AM (2ef5s)
I hate oil leaks. Harley had leaks for a few reasons. The main thing was up until 1965 they had a front primary chain oiler that pumped, or dripped oil directly from the oil pump onto the chain to lube it, and there was no return. There was a small little drain tube that dropped it onto the street. In 1965 they came out with a return system. Great, but then they added an oiler to the rear drive chain, so now that chain got oiled, and dripped onto the street. The big problem is owners never checked the setting of the rear oiler which was adjustable, and they just let it do whatever. They also never checked the return hoses for the primary oiling system. They would get loose, or old and cracked, more leaks. 1984 they came out with a new motor, stuck the primary chain in a sealed wet bath with it's own fluid, and eventually in 1986 went to rear belt drives with the new 5 speed, and poof, no more leaks.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 25, 2025 12:47 AM (snZF9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 25, 2025 12:47 AM (pkeXY)
Posted by: four seasons at December 25, 2025 12:48 AM (3ek7K)
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:48 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:46 AM (rdVOm)
Yes, she arrived via the Cat Distribution System. She was friendly right from the get-go, no way she was a feral. Fuzzy, all black save for a small white chest patch, and named Tigger for the stripes she ain't got.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 25, 2025 12:48 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
We done had that for years. Private parties only.
Posted by: Crazy Imklos' Non-Stop Tzampotli Family Fun Park and Somewhat Legal Other Stuff at December 25, 2025 12:49 AM (f/3mU)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Squeee!
Posted by: JQ at December 25, 2025 12:51 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 25, 2025 12:51 AM (igoLh)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 25, 2025 12:52 AM (npFr7)
And to all you cantankerous bastards,
You’re all a bunch of softies and I want to hug you all.
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