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The Morning Rant: No American Soldiers In Eastern Europe!
Ahead of the first meeting, Zelenskyy said on Dec. 14 that Kyiv is open to dropping its NATO ambitions in exchange for Western security guarantees. “Thus, today, bilateral security guarantees between Ukraine and the US, Article 5-like guarantees for us from the US, and security guarantees from European colleagues, as well as other countries — Canada, Japan — are an opportunity to prevent another Russian invasion,” Zelenskyy said in a WhatsApp chat with reporters. It remains unclear how discussions have progressed on that and other issues, such as territorial concessions, which have been key sticking points in the process. The Kremlin said on Dec. 15 that Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO was fundamental to the peace settlement.
This war is going to end only when Ukraine and its European cheerleaders admit that they have lost territory that will probably never be returned. Yes, that's not fair. And it wasn't fair that I didn't get the GI Joe with the Kung-Fu grip when I was eight years old, but that's the way of the world! Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger, and the insulting argument that Ukraine is only the first step in its drive to the Channel is thoroughly debunked by the facts on the ground. Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine in three and a half years? That is a shocking realization for Putin and his generals, and no amount of obfuscation on their part will change that. Here's my plan. Guarantee a certain level of access to American weapons, paid for in cash. Guarantee a certain level of intelligence cooperation. Guarantee support in the United Nations (remember that?) for a just peace. Continue support for Poland's military buildup, which is a wonderful buffer against any Russian intransigence. And no American soldiers anywhere near the current battlefields or anywhere near a hypothetical future conflict. Until Western Europe decides that their culture is worth defending, what possible future benefit is there for America to enter a war that is merely a distraction from the real conflict: Islam vs. the West?
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#1 with a bu.... maybe i shouldn't use that saying after this past weekend.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:00 AM (zjgNU)
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2025 11:00 AM (+x87d)
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Top 10!
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:01 AM (TN0g+)
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>>And no American soldiers anywhere near the current battlefields or anywhere near a hypothetical future conflict. Until Western Europe decides that their culture is worth defending, what possible future benefit is there for America to enter a war that is merely a distraction from the real conflict: Islam vs. the West?
Threadwinner!
Threadwinner!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (NuV6c)
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Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger, and the insulting argument that Ukraine is only the first step in its drive to the Channel is thoroughly debunked by the facts on the ground. Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine in three and a half years? That is a shocking realization for Putin and his generals, and no amount of obfuscation on their part will change that.
And yet, I was assured by many here that Russia just needed time to get its act together, and when that inevitably happened, they'd roll over Ukraine in short order.
And yet, I was assured by many here that Russia just needed time to get its act together, and when that inevitably happened, they'd roll over Ukraine in short order.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (Riz8t)
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Repeat after me: "We are not the world's policeman."
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If only we could go back in time 25 years and said that.
Get in, destroy all their people and stuff and tell them they'll be back if they mess with us again.
It's not our job to rebuild.
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If only we could go back in time 25 years and said that.
Get in, destroy all their people and stuff and tell them they'll be back if they mess with us again.
It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (zjgNU)
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The fading EU is desperate for a shooting war to help them (they think) to recement their control, which is slipping. But they don't have any effective military forces, so they're desperate to get the US to do it for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (uWKK8)
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Neither Russia nor Ukraine have any incentive to stop fighting. So they won't.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (NwnyJ)
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MUNKEY
MUNKEY
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (y9nCu)
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7 The fading EU is desperate for a shooting war to help them (they think) to recement their control, which is slipping. But they don't have any effective military forces, so they're desperate to get the US to do it for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (uWKK
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I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (uWKK
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I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (GBKbO)
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The plan is to send native Europeans and Americans to Ukraine to die, and replace them with mohammedans who will build harems out of the women left alone.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (0U5gm)
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And yet, I was assured by many here that Russia just needed time to get its act together, and when that inevitably happened, they'd roll over Ukraine in short order.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (Riz8t)
The only interesting part of this war has been the advancement in drone tech, and the way that it has made advancing in the open almost impossible for any significant force.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (Riz8t)
The only interesting part of this war has been the advancement in drone tech, and the way that it has made advancing in the open almost impossible for any significant force.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (uWKK8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (u73oe)
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I've read that globalists in Ei rope are pushing Ukraine to bring in immigrants, such as Indians.
Not enough to send 100's of thousands off to be killed by Russia and sending their wives and children to other countries as refugees. Now they want to 'diversify' it with non-Westerners, non-Christians to completely finish it off.
Not enough to send 100's of thousands off to be killed by Russia and sending their wives and children to other countries as refugees. Now they want to 'diversify' it with non-Westerners, non-Christians to completely finish it off.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (NuV6c)
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Just as a reminder, here's the original Bismarck quote.
The authentic quote, spoken in a speech to the German Reichstag in December 1876, was:
"The whole of the Balkans is not worth the healthy bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.
The authentic quote, spoken in a speech to the German Reichstag in December 1876, was:
"The whole of the Balkans is not worth the healthy bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)
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dropping its NATO ambitions in exchange for Western security guarantees.
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I don’t want a hamburger. I just want a bun with a beef patty in the middle.
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I don’t want a hamburger. I just want a bun with a beef patty in the middle.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (udlma)
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Get in, destroy all their people and stuff and tell them they'll be back if they mess with us again.
It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (zjgNU)
Thanks, Colin Powell. You clueless asswipe.
Get in, destroy all their people and stuff and tell them they'll be back if they mess with us again.
It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (zjgNU)
Thanks, Colin Powell. You clueless asswipe.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (y9nCu)
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I cannot take the prospect of U.S. soldiers in Ukraine seriously at all.
Perhaps I should but it is far-fetched and doesn't make any sense geo-political or otherwise.
Perhaps I should but it is far-fetched and doesn't make any sense geo-political or otherwise.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (CTokg)
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speaking of Eastern Europe, "Christmas market ISIS 'mass terror attack' plot' foiled in Poland"...
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (g47mK)
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The only interesting part of this war has been the advancement in drone tech, and the way that it has made advancing in the open almost impossible for any significant force.
I think we're just starting to think about the implications of large-scale drone attacks on our military. We need to step up the pace dramatically.
I think we're just starting to think about the implications of large-scale drone attacks on our military. We need to step up the pace dramatically.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
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And no American soldiers anywhere near the current battlefields or anywhere near a hypothetical future conflict. Until Western Europe decides that their culture is worth defending, what possible future benefit is there for America to enter a war that is merely a distraction from the real conflict: Islam vs. the West?
Amen, and then some.
Amen, and then some.
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (2L+MU)
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>>The plan is to send native Europeans and Americans to Ukraine to die, and replace them with mohammedans who will build harems out of the women left alone.
harems -> slaves
and kill off their male children not old enough to enlist
harems -> slaves
and kill off their male children not old enough to enlist
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (NuV6c)
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Europe is already lost.
Posted by: no one at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (W7XSX)
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I want to see Russia mix it up with Poland.
They will discover that Poland hates them more than Ukraine does, and Poland's armed forces are bigger, better, and better equipped.
They will discover that Poland hates them more than Ukraine does, and Poland's armed forces are bigger, better, and better equipped.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV)
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what possible future benefit is there for America to enter a war that is merely a distraction from the real conflict: Islam vs. the West?
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Sadly, too many people are asleep. They think Islam is just like Christianity.
It's not.
It CAN be no big deal, as it was when the West was the strong horse and the middle east wanted to copy it- look at pictures from the 1960s and early 1970s in Egypt, Iraq, and Iran.
But we've revealed we're a paper tiger- not from lack of capability, but from lack of will.
And the will of Islam to murderously oppress everyone opposed to it looks like the strong horse.
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Sadly, too many people are asleep. They think Islam is just like Christianity.
It's not.
It CAN be no big deal, as it was when the West was the strong horse and the middle east wanted to copy it- look at pictures from the 1960s and early 1970s in Egypt, Iraq, and Iran.
But we've revealed we're a paper tiger- not from lack of capability, but from lack of will.
And the will of Islam to murderously oppress everyone opposed to it looks like the strong horse.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:06 AM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:06 AM (pkeXY)
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and...this is the way : "A Christmas ham has been sent to the Bonnyrigg home of the alleged Bondi terrorists."
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:07 AM (g47mK)
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I told you Australians are close in spirit to us Americans!
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:07 AM (g47mK)
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I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor. - The James Madison
Sheesh! Not another remake!
Sheesh! Not another remake!
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (2L+MU)
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Trump understands that if he agrees to any boots on the ground agreement in Ukraine , his support will crumble to near zero right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (udlma)
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"The whole of the Balkans is not worth the healthy bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)
Those Germans knew how to train their dogs well.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)
Those Germans knew how to train their dogs well.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (pkeXY)
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To paraphrase Otto von Bismarck, "Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single United States Marine."
Or Neville Chamberlain: "Why should we be involved over a quarrel in a faraway land between people of which we know nothing."
Or Neville Chamberlain: "Why should we be involved over a quarrel in a faraway land between people of which we know nothing."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (ufSfZ)
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Europe is already lost.
I disagree. As someone here pointed out yesterday, the Muslim fraction of their populations is lower than it seems at first glance, because you usually hear something like "Mohammad is the most popular name in Amsterdam (or another city)." However, that doesn't reflect the fact that the Muzzies, like blacks and new immigrants in America, are heavily concentrated in the cities.
Don't get me wrong, they are still a yuuuge problem and will need to be dealt with, but it's not QUITE as big a problem as we might think.
I disagree. As someone here pointed out yesterday, the Muslim fraction of their populations is lower than it seems at first glance, because you usually hear something like "Mohammad is the most popular name in Amsterdam (or another city)." However, that doesn't reflect the fact that the Muzzies, like blacks and new immigrants in America, are heavily concentrated in the cities.
Don't get me wrong, they are still a yuuuge problem and will need to be dealt with, but it's not QUITE as big a problem as we might think.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
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Me? I DID get the GI Joe with kung-fu grip. And he talked, too! Behold my privilege!
Posted by: tsj017 at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (ZiGm9)
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>>and...this is the way : "A Christmas ham has been sent to the Bonnyrigg home of the alleged Bondi terrorists."
The sender will be arrested and jailed for hate crimes.
The sender will be arrested and jailed for hate crimes.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (NuV6c)
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I'm reading a proposed deal by the Euroweenies and Zelenskyy has not been signed on by the US...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (VE6XX)
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I think we're just starting to think about the implications of large-scale drone attacks on our military. We need to step up the pace dramatically.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
We won't until they happen to us.
Our generals are always fighting the last war and the current ones DEFINITELY don't have the vision to respond to others' mistakes.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
We won't until they happen to us.
Our generals are always fighting the last war and the current ones DEFINITELY don't have the vision to respond to others' mistakes.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (zjgNU)
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Thx CBD. The Ukes better get a peace deal quick because the Russians are overrunning a big remaining section of the Zaporitzia oblast. The Ukes are just about out of reserves.
Bismarck line.: the Americans are a lucky people. On the north and south bounded by repetitively weak nations. On the east and west bounded by fish.
Bismarck line.: the Americans are a lucky people. On the north and south bounded by repetitively weak nations. On the east and west bounded by fish.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (D+mpw)
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There's nothing worth defending with Europe--they're busy turning their nations over to the moslems. I'd rather do business with Russia.
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (TN0g+)
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I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor. - The James Madison
Sheesh! Not another remake!
Posted by: Paco
Another remake of To Be Or Not To Be.
I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor. - The James Madison
Sheesh! Not another remake!
Posted by: Paco
Another remake of To Be Or Not To Be.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (pkeXY)
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I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (GBKbO)
Just saw something along those lines yesterday - Germany's government has decided it's a bad look to have a non--existent military. So Chancellor Merz has decided it's right to borrow a lot of money and rebuild their army. He announced the first project he intends to accomplish; he plans to have them dig trenches along the Polish Border. (no, I'm not kidding)
So think about this - the Uke War has demonstrated that advanced tech in the form of drones and standoff weapons is the way wars will be fought now. And so Merz has decided that the way to show his country's might is to round up a bunch of half witted conscripts, hand them shovels, and tell them to go dig ditches. Riiiigghhhtt...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (GBKbO)
Just saw something along those lines yesterday - Germany's government has decided it's a bad look to have a non--existent military. So Chancellor Merz has decided it's right to borrow a lot of money and rebuild their army. He announced the first project he intends to accomplish; he plans to have them dig trenches along the Polish Border. (no, I'm not kidding)
So think about this - the Uke War has demonstrated that advanced tech in the form of drones and standoff weapons is the way wars will be fought now. And so Merz has decided that the way to show his country's might is to round up a bunch of half witted conscripts, hand them shovels, and tell them to go dig ditches. Riiiigghhhtt...
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (uWKK8)
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I want to see Russia mix it up with Poland.
They will discover that Poland hates them more than Ukraine does, and Poland's armed forces are bigger, better, and better equipped.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV)
Plus, the Poles have a history of kicking the shit out of Russian invaders. See: Miracle on the Vistula circa 1920.
I want to see Russia mix it up with Poland.
They will discover that Poland hates them more than Ukraine does, and Poland's armed forces are bigger, better, and better equipped.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV)
Plus, the Poles have a history of kicking the shit out of Russian invaders. See: Miracle on the Vistula circa 1920.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (y9nCu)
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>I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (GBKbO)
Berlin will not enjoy the result the second time around. The Poles may no longer have Winged Hussars, but they are much better armed than what passes for the Wermacht.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:03 AM (GBKbO)
Berlin will not enjoy the result the second time around. The Poles may no longer have Winged Hussars, but they are much better armed than what passes for the Wermacht.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (NgqoH)
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Trump understands that if he agrees to any boots on the ground agreement in Ukraine , his support will crumble to near zero right?
I honestly don't know what Trump understands anymore.
I honestly don't know what Trump understands anymore.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (ufSfZ)
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Our generals are always fighting the last war and the current ones DEFINITELY don't have the vision to respond to others' mistakes.
I hope you and I are both wrong, and there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than we know.
I hope you and I are both wrong, and there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than we know.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger, and the insulting argument that Ukraine is only the first step in its drive to the Channel is thoroughly debunked by the facts on the ground. Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine in three and a half years?
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While I agree with your basic point, that Russia is weaker than previously thought, i think Ukraine was stronger than being given credit for. I see this a lot, that Russia couldn't even conquer Ukraine, much less Germany or France.
Ukraine (before Russia invaded) was likely the second largest military in Europe, though Poland is probably now larger. Conquering Ukraine never was going to be an easy task, except in the year 2021 fever dreams of Putin and his generals.
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While I agree with your basic point, that Russia is weaker than previously thought, i think Ukraine was stronger than being given credit for. I see this a lot, that Russia couldn't even conquer Ukraine, much less Germany or France.
Ukraine (before Russia invaded) was likely the second largest military in Europe, though Poland is probably now larger. Conquering Ukraine never was going to be an easy task, except in the year 2021 fever dreams of Putin and his generals.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
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Don't get me wrong, they are still a yuuuge problem and will need to be dealt with, but it's not QUITE as big a problem as we might think.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
It will be soon. I read somewhere that 40% of German kids under 12 are from migrant background. Not sure on how accurate that is, but the fact that it's plausible is enough.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
It will be soon. I read somewhere that 40% of German kids under 12 are from migrant background. Not sure on how accurate that is, but the fact that it's plausible is enough.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (0bjKf)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (xcxpd)
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42 Just saw something along those lines yesterday - Germany's government has decided it's a bad look to have a non--existent military. So Chancellor Merz has decided it's right to borrow a lot of money and rebuild their army. He announced the first project he intends to accomplish; he plans to have them dig trenches along the Polish Border. (no, I'm not kidding)
So think about this - the Uke War has demonstrated that advanced tech in the form of drones and standoff weapons is the way wars will be fought now. And so Merz has decided that the way to show his country's might is to round up a bunch of half witted conscripts, hand them shovels, and tell them to go dig ditches. Riiiigghhhtt...
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (uWKK
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I can't wait.
Gosh, I wish Trump would just abandon our bases in West Germany.
Airlift everyone and all the equipment out over the course of like a week without any announcement.
So think about this - the Uke War has demonstrated that advanced tech in the form of drones and standoff weapons is the way wars will be fought now. And so Merz has decided that the way to show his country's might is to round up a bunch of half witted conscripts, hand them shovels, and tell them to go dig ditches. Riiiigghhhtt...
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:10 AM (uWKK
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I can't wait.
Gosh, I wish Trump would just abandon our bases in West Germany.
Airlift everyone and all the equipment out over the course of like a week without any announcement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)
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So Chancellor Merz has decided it's right to borrow a lot of money and rebuild their army. He announced the first project he intends to accomplish; he plans to have them dig trenches along the Polish Border. (no, I'm not kidding)
That is...truly astonishing.
That is...truly astonishing.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Riz8t)
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On one hand: Russia is a paper tiger.
On the other hand: The paper tiger would kill a bunch of American Troops and is not worth the price, therefore it should be the Europeans that get killed in Donetsk.
I disagree with the former, and agree with the latter.
On the other hand: The paper tiger would kill a bunch of American Troops and is not worth the price, therefore it should be the Europeans that get killed in Donetsk.
I disagree with the former, and agree with the latter.
Posted by: mossomo at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (pky95)
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Plus, the Poles have a history of kicking the shit out of Russian invaders.
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And Turks.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
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53 Plus, the Poles have a history of kicking the shit out of Russian invaders.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
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The English have a history of subjugating Muslim populations and ruling the seas, too.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
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The English have a history of subjugating Muslim populations and ruling the seas, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
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I have an alternate suggestion: We build and keep our own weapons and don't sell them to the Ukes at all. Russia sucks but we shouldn't be involved on either side, period. I'm tired of all of this shit.
Posted by: ballistic at December 16, 2025 11:13 AM (3BwY8)
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I was in Strasbourg a few years ago around this time of year. They have a cool Christmas market and the whole downtown area is bedazzled in Christmas lights.
Two things that made it less than ideal. First was the majority of people selling things in the market were Arabs. Second the security presence was overwhelming. Not just police but also soldiers. Everywhere. And what I think were special forces type dudes, every one of them was 6’4 240 full of muscle was long around with rifles slung over the shoulder. Which made things safer but was also a constant reminder that they’re there because it’s unsafe.
That’s reality for Europe now.
Two things that made it less than ideal. First was the majority of people selling things in the market were Arabs. Second the security presence was overwhelming. Not just police but also soldiers. Everywhere. And what I think were special forces type dudes, every one of them was 6’4 240 full of muscle was long around with rifles slung over the shoulder. Which made things safer but was also a constant reminder that they’re there because it’s unsafe.
That’s reality for Europe now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:13 AM (udlma)
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:13 AM (g47mK)
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Fuck Europe. It's gone. It may come back, but it'll be generations from now. I won't be alive to see it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2025 11:14 AM (g8Ew8)
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Plus, the Poles have a history of kicking the shit out of Russian invaders.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
Yeah, but Vienna is going to be sacked from the inside this time, so there will be no riding to the rescue from Poland.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
Yeah, but Vienna is going to be sacked from the inside this time, so there will be no riding to the rescue from Poland.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:14 AM (zjgNU)
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Don't get me wrong, they are still a yuuuge problem and will need to be dealt with, but it's not QUITE as big a problem as we might think.
Posted by: Archimedes
Christmas markets are being cancelled. Now, a big concert that is usually held on the Champs Elysees on New Years Eve is being replaced by some kind of virtual thing that people are being encouraged to watch from their apartments. The absolute numbers don't matter as long as these craven governments keep empowering the culture enrichers.
Posted by: Archimedes
Christmas markets are being cancelled. Now, a big concert that is usually held on the Champs Elysees on New Years Eve is being replaced by some kind of virtual thing that people are being encouraged to watch from their apartments. The absolute numbers don't matter as long as these craven governments keep empowering the culture enrichers.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ)
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51 So Chancellor Merz has decided it's right to borrow a lot of money and rebuild their army. He announced the first project he intends to accomplish; he plans to have them dig trenches along the Polish Border. (no, I'm not kidding)
Give them spoons.
Give them spoons.
Posted by: Milton Friedman at December 16, 2025 11:15 AM (PiwSw)
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Trump has been very clear that he will not send troops to Ukraine as a part of a security deal. Anyone claiming otherwise just refuses to listen to what he says.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 11:15 AM (viF8m)
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49 Eastern Europe > Western Europe.
I'd rather defend Poland than France. Or the UK, frankly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (xcxpd)
Absolutely. And I would posit that we will see Europe ignite in our lifetime.
I'd rather defend Poland than France. Or the UK, frankly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (xcxpd)
Absolutely. And I would posit that we will see Europe ignite in our lifetime.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 16, 2025 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
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And what I think were special forces type dudes, every one of them was 6’4 240 full of muscle was long around with rifles slung over the shoulder.
Did you ask them "Do you speak-a my language?"
Did you ask them "Do you speak-a my language?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (ufSfZ)
65
I might care about what happens to Europe if the Europeans cared about what happens to Europe.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (u73oe)
66
>Airlift everyone and all the equipment out over the course of like a week without any announcement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at
Kinda like Robert Irsay did with the Baltimore Colts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at
Kinda like Robert Irsay did with the Baltimore Colts.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
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‘ Here's my plan. ..’
Damn. CBD. Now I don’t even need to comment (apart from some smartass remarks that I know everyone enjoys).
No. Russia shouldn’t be allowed to invade with impunity.
Yes. They’re so weak they can be stopped easily with EUROPEAN troops.
No. We shouldn’t give Ukraine a guarantee that amounts to NATO membership.
Damn. CBD. Now I don’t even need to comment (apart from some smartass remarks that I know everyone enjoys).
No. Russia shouldn’t be allowed to invade with impunity.
Yes. They’re so weak they can be stopped easily with EUROPEAN troops.
No. We shouldn’t give Ukraine a guarantee that amounts to NATO membership.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (jbnUc)
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So Chancellor Merz has decided it's right to borrow a lot of money and rebuild their army
Does Ethel know about this?
Does Ethel know about this?
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (2L+MU)
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And what I think were special forces type dudes, every one of them was 6’4 240 full of muscle was long around with rifles slung over the shoulder.
Did you ask them "Do you speak-a my language?"
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*golf clap*
Did you ask them "Do you speak-a my language?"
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*golf clap*
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (TN0g+)
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However, that doesn't reflect the fact that the Muzzies, like blacks and new immigrants in America, are heavily concentrated in the cities.
And the cities are where the political power ultimately lies.
Look at the French and Russian Revolutions.
Percentage of school kids who are Muslim (2025):
Brussels 52%
Amsterdam 43%
Vienna 41%
London 37.5%
Stockholm 35%
Paris 29%
Copenhagen 28%
Berlin 23%
Madrid 14.5%
Rome 9%
And the cities are where the political power ultimately lies.
Look at the French and Russian Revolutions.
Percentage of school kids who are Muslim (2025):
Brussels 52%
Amsterdam 43%
Vienna 41%
London 37.5%
Stockholm 35%
Paris 29%
Copenhagen 28%
Berlin 23%
Madrid 14.5%
Rome 9%
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (xTIDn)
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I think we're just starting to think about the implications of large-scale drone attacks on our military. We need to step up the pace dramatically.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
I've looked at the accounts of the US Navy engaging Yemen early this year. Public accounts were mostly sugarcoated, and there are no "reporters" any more with the sense to understand the military in any way, so they reprint whatever is spoonfed to them.
But it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see that the Navy narrowly missed suffering a major disaster, such as losing a ship, and the amount of missiles we had to expend to guard against threats vastly exceeded the cost of the low tech drones and missiles that the Yemeni's kept sending. In the long run it was probably a good thing, and I hope the Navy learned the lesson that they need to vastly upgrade their systems and operational plans.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
I've looked at the accounts of the US Navy engaging Yemen early this year. Public accounts were mostly sugarcoated, and there are no "reporters" any more with the sense to understand the military in any way, so they reprint whatever is spoonfed to them.
But it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see that the Navy narrowly missed suffering a major disaster, such as losing a ship, and the amount of missiles we had to expend to guard against threats vastly exceeded the cost of the low tech drones and missiles that the Yemeni's kept sending. In the long run it was probably a good thing, and I hope the Navy learned the lesson that they need to vastly upgrade their systems and operational plans.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK8)
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And I would posit that we will see Europe ignite in our lifetime.
"Been there, done that."
- - Sir Edward Grey
"Been there, done that."
- - Sir Edward Grey
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (ufSfZ)
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"Guarantee a certain level of access to American weapons, paid for in cash. Guarantee a certain level of intelligence cooperation. Guarantee support in the United Nations (remember that?) for a just peace."
yes, imo we should remain The World's Superpower, but friendly liberty minded countries need to supply manpower and cash -- as we provide leadership, technology, and various political persuasions.
yes, imo we should remain The World's Superpower, but friendly liberty minded countries need to supply manpower and cash -- as we provide leadership, technology, and various political persuasions.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (vbXSk)
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disagree. As someone here pointed out yesterday, the Muslim fraction of their populations is lower than it seems at first glance, because you usually hear something like "Mohammad is the most popular name in Amsterdam (or another city)." However, that doesn't reflect the fact that the Muzzies, like blacks and new immigrants in America, are heavily concentrated in the cities.
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This is like people who say if you take out Seattle, Washington is a deep red state. Well OK but Seattle is where most people in the state live. You can’t just wave a magic wand and make them disappear.
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This is like people who say if you take out Seattle, Washington is a deep red state. Well OK but Seattle is where most people in the state live. You can’t just wave a magic wand and make them disappear.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (udlma)
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There remain people here in the states with some sort of romantic feelz for Europe. Thus they constantly 'want to help' and pour money into the place. They don't realize Europe today is nothing like 1945.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (NwnyJ)
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"Both Ukraine and Russia are churning through soldiers at an astounding rate"
Anyone really believe this? I don't. If any of these breathless reports of dying soldiers were correct, there would literally be nobody left in Ukraine and only a few men in Russia.
This entire war is cask-strength bullshit and ops designed to scam stupid Americans and westerners out of their money. I don't believe a word of it. Not. One. Word.
Fuck both Uke and Russia. I don't give a flaming rat's nutsack about either of them.
Anyone really believe this? I don't. If any of these breathless reports of dying soldiers were correct, there would literally be nobody left in Ukraine and only a few men in Russia.
This entire war is cask-strength bullshit and ops designed to scam stupid Americans and westerners out of their money. I don't believe a word of it. Not. One. Word.
Fuck both Uke and Russia. I don't give a flaming rat's nutsack about either of them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:18 AM (iFTx/)
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Plus, the Poles have a history of kicking the shit out of Russian invaders.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
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The English have a history of subjugating Muslim populations and ruling the seas, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
They also don't like the Jews much either.
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And Turks.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yNJrI)
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The English have a history of subjugating Muslim populations and ruling the seas, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:13 AM (GBKbO)
They also don't like the Jews much either.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:18 AM (xcxpd)
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>>I've looked at the accounts of the US Navy engaging Yemen early this year. Public accounts were mostly sugarcoated, and there are no "reporters" any more with the sense to understand the military in any way, so they reprint whatever is spoonfed to them.
You know who has some very advanced anti-drone technology? Israel.
Maybe we should be friends with Israel. They might even help with the Golden Dome. They've got some good technology on that too.
You know who has some very advanced anti-drone technology? Israel.
Maybe we should be friends with Israel. They might even help with the Golden Dome. They've got some good technology on that too.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 11:18 AM (viF8m)
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Headline (Barron's):
"Oil prices tumble to lowest levels since 2021. Here are the big concerns."
Concerns!
Headline (Barron's):
"Oil prices tumble to lowest levels since 2021. Here are the big concerns."
Concerns!
Posted by: mrp at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (rj6Yv)
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💩 Tin can't be the entire Russian government. He's the face of those who are continuing the history of Russians warring against their neighbors, in this case, their cousins.
They're insane. For less than the financial cost to Russia for this war, Russia could have paid the Ukrainians to shit-can their totally corrupt government and join Russia.
They're insane. For less than the financial cost to Russia for this war, Russia could have paid the Ukrainians to shit-can their totally corrupt government and join Russia.
Posted by: torabora at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (fPASK)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (xTIDn)
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Q: You're a Polish soldier. Your rifle has two bullets. A German soldier and a Russian soldier are advancing on you. Who do you shoot first.
A: The Russian. Business before pleasure.
Q: You're a Polish soldier. Your rifle has two bullets. A German soldier and a Russian soldier are advancing on you. Who do you shoot first.
A: The Russian. Business before pleasure.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (tgvbd)
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79
Headline (Barron's):
"Oil prices tumble to lowest levels since 2021. Here are the big concerns."
Concerns!
Posted by: mrp at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (rj6Yv)
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What is Trump doing about the affordability crisis, huh?
Headline (Barron's):
"Oil prices tumble to lowest levels since 2021. Here are the big concerns."
Concerns!
Posted by: mrp at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (rj6Yv)
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What is Trump doing about the affordability crisis, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (GBKbO)
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Trump's youngest kid is an expert on oil prices now?
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (77rzZ)
85
But it doesn't take much reading between the lines to see that the Navy narrowly missed suffering a major disaster, such as losing a ship, and the amount of missiles we had to expend to guard against threats vastly exceeded the cost of the low tech drones and missiles that the Yemeni's kept sending. In the long run it was probably a good thing, and I hope the Navy learned the lesson that they need to vastly upgrade their systems and operational plans.
One has to wonder if, as with battleships, the era of the big military platform is over. I'm not sure there is a solution to the problem of vast quantities of cheap, disposable drones other than to adopt the same approach.
One has to wonder if, as with battleships, the era of the big military platform is over. I'm not sure there is a solution to the problem of vast quantities of cheap, disposable drones other than to adopt the same approach.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)
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Did you ask them "Do you speak-a my language?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (ufSfZ)
Heh. Well I speak their language. 😀
I also have a feeling they wouldn’t take much shit from a dumb Yankee tourist. Those dudes looked all business.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (ufSfZ)
Heh. Well I speak their language. 😀
I also have a feeling they wouldn’t take much shit from a dumb Yankee tourist. Those dudes looked all business.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (udlma)
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i think Ukraine was stronger than being given credit for.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:20 AM (n9ltV)
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13 Dear Europe,
Fuck you, do it yourself.
XOXO
Duke
PS Fuck you.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (u73oe)
Nominated for Threadwinner
Fuck you, do it yourself.
XOXO
Duke
PS Fuck you.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2025 11:04 AM (u73oe)
Nominated for Threadwinner
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:20 AM (xcxpd)
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Percentage of school kids who are Muslim (2025):
Brussels 52%
Amsterdam 43%
Vienna 41%
London 37.5%
Stockholm 35%
Paris 29%
Copenhagen 28%
Berlin 23%
Madrid 14.5%
Rome 9%
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (xTIDn)
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Dearborn 55%
Brussels 52%
Amsterdam 43%
Vienna 41%
London 37.5%
Stockholm 35%
Paris 29%
Copenhagen 28%
Berlin 23%
Madrid 14.5%
Rome 9%
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (xTIDn)
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Dearborn 55%
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (NNq22)
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87 i think Ukraine was stronger than being given credit for.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
Russia found that out.. Of course without our billions it would have been a different story
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
Russia found that out.. Of course without our billions it would have been a different story
Posted by: It's me donna at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (VE6XX)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (XuXeR)
92
I'm quite fine with Europe figuring out this problem.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (+4yJ5)
93
>>I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Not just material but intel. We've been supplying Ukraine with advanced satellite and other intel since the start of the war. Without it they would have lost long ago.
Not just material but intel. We've been supplying Ukraine with advanced satellite and other intel since the start of the war. Without it they would have lost long ago.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (viF8m)
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75 There remain people here in the states with some sort of romantic feelz for Europe. Thus they constantly 'want to help' and pour money into the place. They don't realize Europe today is nothing like 1945.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (NwnyJ)
Only feelz I have for Europe is utter disdain and disgust. If (when) we go back, I'm all for making what is left of Europe a US territory. They've repeatedly shown they can't govern themselves without us bailing them out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (NwnyJ)
Only feelz I have for Europe is utter disdain and disgust. If (when) we go back, I'm all for making what is left of Europe a US territory. They've repeatedly shown they can't govern themselves without us bailing them out.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (N39Ws)
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87 i think Ukraine was stronger than being given credit for.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:20 AM (n9ltV)
Slavic stubborness for the...stalemate. But they are still fighting.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:20 AM (n9ltV)
Slavic stubborness for the...stalemate. But they are still fighting.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (xcxpd)
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41 Another remake of To Be Or Not To Be. - Bertram Cabot
Funny movie (Carole Lombard's last, I believe).
Many good scenes, but one brief one that stands out to me is when the actor playing Hitler walks into a room to the shouts of "Heil, Hitler!" by the actors playing German soldiers, and he says, "Heil, myself".
Funny movie (Carole Lombard's last, I believe).
Many good scenes, but one brief one that stands out to me is when the actor playing Hitler walks into a room to the shouts of "Heil, Hitler!" by the actors playing German soldiers, and he says, "Heil, myself".
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (2L+MU)
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i think Ukraine was stronger than being given credit for.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Also the fact that, though not as big as Russia, of course, it is still a huge country (the second-largest in Europe).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I think you are correct, but the vast quantities of Western war matériel plays a huge part in their resistance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Also the fact that, though not as big as Russia, of course, it is still a huge country (the second-largest in Europe).
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (77rzZ)
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Percentage of school kids who are Muslim (2025):
Brussels 52%
Amsterdam 43%
Vienna 41%
London 37.5%
Stockholm 35%
Paris 29%
Copenhagen 28%
Berlin 23%
Madrid 14.5%
Rome 9%
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (xTIDn)
What I read from this is that Italy still has a chance to survive as Italian.
Brussels 52%
Amsterdam 43%
Vienna 41%
London 37.5%
Stockholm 35%
Paris 29%
Copenhagen 28%
Berlin 23%
Madrid 14.5%
Rome 9%
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (xTIDn)
What I read from this is that Italy still has a chance to survive as Italian.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (zjgNU)
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91 I'd rather defend Poland than France. Or the UK, frankly."
I'd rather defend Texas...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (XuXeR)
The El Paso Reconquista will be bloody but needed.
I'd rather defend Texas...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (XuXeR)
The El Paso Reconquista will be bloody but needed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (xcxpd)
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96 41 Another remake of To Be Or Not To Be. - Bertram Cabot
Funny movie (Carole Lombard's last, I believe).
Many good scenes, but one brief one that stands out to me is when the actor playing Hitler walks into a room to the shouts of "Heil, Hitler!" by the actors playing German soldiers, and he says, "Heil, myself".
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (2L+MU)
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Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
Funny movie (Carole Lombard's last, I believe).
Many good scenes, but one brief one that stands out to me is when the actor playing Hitler walks into a room to the shouts of "Heil, Hitler!" by the actors playing German soldiers, and he says, "Heil, myself".
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:21 AM (2L+MU)
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Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO)
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I don't know if Trump is getting bamboozled or not. But at least he's trying to deal with the situation as it is and not as we want it to be.
I don't know if Trump is getting bamboozled or not. But at least he's trying to deal with the situation as it is and not as we want it to be.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (tgvbd)
102
"Ukraine (before Russia invaded) was likely the second largest military in Europe, though Poland is probably now larger. Conquering Ukraine never was going to be an easy task, except in the year 2021 fever dreams of Putin and his generals."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM
It wasn't just Putin. A lot of conventional wisdom was that Ukraine was screwed up to and including maybe a week after Russia invaded. Also, I seem to recall several people who should have known better were touting the size of Iraq's military in 2003. Removing Hussein wasn't going to be easy, there's going to be tens of thousands of casualties, he's been building military defenses in depth for decades, etc. I think we can safely conclude that just comparing numbers is a quick way to get it wrong.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM
It wasn't just Putin. A lot of conventional wisdom was that Ukraine was screwed up to and including maybe a week after Russia invaded. Also, I seem to recall several people who should have known better were touting the size of Iraq's military in 2003. Removing Hussein wasn't going to be easy, there's going to be tens of thousands of casualties, he's been building military defenses in depth for decades, etc. I think we can safely conclude that just comparing numbers is a quick way to get it wrong.
Posted by: Semper Why at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (CXFWL)
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Many good scenes, but one brief one that stands out to me is when the actor playing Hitler walks into a room to the shouts of "Heil, Hitler!" by the actors playing German soldiers, and he says, "Heil, myself".
Posted by: Paco
We'll have the singing Hitlers over there and the dancing Hitlers over there.
Posted by: Paco
We'll have the singing Hitlers over there and the dancing Hitlers over there.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (77rzZ)
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Anyone really believe this? I don't. If any of these breathless reports of dying soldiers were correct, there would literally be nobody left in Ukraine and only a few men in Russia.
After mobilizing 300,000 men early in the war, Russia has been able to get by with volunteers (by paying enormous bonuses by the standards of rural Russia).
(Russia, like it has for decades, also drafts 300,000 men a year for one-year terms, but they aren't sent to Ukraine.)
If Russia had taken a million casualties, it wouldn't be able to do that.
After mobilizing 300,000 men early in the war, Russia has been able to get by with volunteers (by paying enormous bonuses by the standards of rural Russia).
(Russia, like it has for decades, also drafts 300,000 men a year for one-year terms, but they aren't sent to Ukraine.)
If Russia had taken a million casualties, it wouldn't be able to do that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (xTIDn)
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Ukraine had one glorious moment back in 22, then they said "see ! we can cause Putin collapse" , the Euros bought into it and sucked Bidet/US/NATO into the scheme. 3 years later, Ukraine is missing 1/4 of its territory, the resource rich one..
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (XuXeR)
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I'm just looking forward to the German Army invading Poland in 2039 because Poland won't subjugate itself to the will of the German chancellor.
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And I look forward to the eventual counter offensive by Polish forces and the ensuing Second Battle of Berlin, where the Poles get to finally beat the living snot out of one of their detestable neighbors.
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And I look forward to the eventual counter offensive by Polish forces and the ensuing Second Battle of Berlin, where the Poles get to finally beat the living snot out of one of their detestable neighbors.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 16, 2025 11:23 AM (5yDGQ)
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Both Ukraine and Russia are churning through soldiers at an astounding rate"
Anyone really believe this? I don't. If any of these breathless reports of dying soldiers were correct, there would literally be nobody left in Ukraine and only a few men in Russia.
This entire war is cask-strength bullshit and ops designed to scam stupid Americans and westerners out of their money. I don't believe a word of it. Not. One. Word.
Fuck both Uke and Russia. I don't give a flaming rat's nutsack about either of them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:18 AM
Agree. 95+% of what we're told about this war is bullshit propaganda.
Anyone really believe this? I don't. If any of these breathless reports of dying soldiers were correct, there would literally be nobody left in Ukraine and only a few men in Russia.
This entire war is cask-strength bullshit and ops designed to scam stupid Americans and westerners out of their money. I don't believe a word of it. Not. One. Word.
Fuck both Uke and Russia. I don't give a flaming rat's nutsack about either of them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:18 AM
Agree. 95+% of what we're told about this war is bullshit propaganda.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2025 11:24 AM (g8Ew8)
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I'm sure the solution the European big brains will come up with will work as well as it did in the Balkans.
I'm sure the solution the European big brains will come up with will work as well as it did in the Balkans.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 16, 2025 11:24 AM (tgvbd)
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The sender will be arrested and jailed for hate crimes.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM
It appears our Lizzy is also a seeress.
I give it a day.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2025 11:08 AM
It appears our Lizzy is also a seeress.
I give it a day.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:24 AM (kgE5c)
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One has to wonder if, as with battleships, the era of the big military platform is over. I'm not sure there is a solution to the problem of vast quantities of cheap, disposable drones other than to adopt the same approach.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)
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Also "Iron Beam:"
The laser defense system developed by Israel and the United States -- a high-energy laser air defense system designed to intercept short-range rockets, artillery shells, mortars, and drones.
[And eventually directed EMP weapons.]
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)
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Also "Iron Beam:"
The laser defense system developed by Israel and the United States -- a high-energy laser air defense system designed to intercept short-range rockets, artillery shells, mortars, and drones.
[And eventually directed EMP weapons.]
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (NNq22)
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My apologies - I was dusting the keyboard.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (2ap+5)
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Eastern European countries
These?
(Wikipedia)
In broadest definition, there are 28 countries that constitute the region of Eastern Europe: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey (East Thrace), and Ukraine.
These?
(Wikipedia)
In broadest definition, there are 28 countries that constitute the region of Eastern Europe: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey (East Thrace), and Ukraine.
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (RuTUS)
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They're insane. For less than the financial cost to Russia for this war, Russia could have paid the Ukrainians to shit-can their totally corrupt government and join Russia.
Posted by: torabora at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (fPASK)
They were doing that, and then we ran a color revolution in Ukraine and kicked out the Russian's corrupt President, installed our own corrupt President and Russia decided they had to go to the mattress to 'rebuild' the borders to 1988 lines.
Posted by: torabora at December 16, 2025 11:19 AM (fPASK)
They were doing that, and then we ran a color revolution in Ukraine and kicked out the Russian's corrupt President, installed our own corrupt President and Russia decided they had to go to the mattress to 'rebuild' the borders to 1988 lines.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (xcxpd)
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In Texas only 28% of children enrolled in public school are white.
Of course there are private schools and parochial schools which might skew the numbers down some and maybe it’s 35% when according for that. But no matter the number, within a couple of generations whites will be a small minority in the state.
Of course there are private schools and parochial schools which might skew the numbers down some and maybe it’s 35% when according for that. But no matter the number, within a couple of generations whites will be a small minority in the state.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (udlma)
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People have lost the ability to understand tradeoffs. They set up an idealized outcome and make no consideration for the costs of achieving that outcome—costs which in war are lives lost. So they never have to say how many lives lost are worth it to achieve their goal.
Yes, a peace deal rewards Putin. Okay. Now, how many lives are you willing to spend to not have a peace deal, compared to the lives that will be lost with a peace deal?
There is almost certainly an argument to be made for both options, but no one on the “no peace” side are willing to even acknowledge that costs exist.
Yes, a peace deal rewards Putin. Okay. Now, how many lives are you willing to spend to not have a peace deal, compared to the lives that will be lost with a peace deal?
There is almost certainly an argument to be made for both options, but no one on the “no peace” side are willing to even acknowledge that costs exist.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (EXyHK)
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remain people here in the states with some sort of romantic feelz for Europe. "
It's Disney lite...
It's Disney lite...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (XuXeR)
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Over 100 so I'm going off topic:
Locally over the weekend, I saw in the news that a woman had livestreamed a murder and then was in a standoff with police.
I thought this was surprising. While possible, women aren't generally that openly confrontational with deadly weapons, especially with guns. (Words and slaps, hair pulls, etc... yes. But not often with guns.)
Today the news reports the charging of the "transwoman" in this murder and standoff...
Ah, everything makes sense now.
Locally over the weekend, I saw in the news that a woman had livestreamed a murder and then was in a standoff with police.
I thought this was surprising. While possible, women aren't generally that openly confrontational with deadly weapons, especially with guns. (Words and slaps, hair pulls, etc... yes. But not often with guns.)
Today the news reports the charging of the "transwoman" in this murder and standoff...
Ah, everything makes sense now.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (zjgNU)
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Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
In Lubitsch's The Shop Around the Corner, Frank Morgan's character tries to commit suicide and is only thwarted at the last moment. Only Lubitsch could pull off an attempted suicide in a rom-com.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
In Lubitsch's The Shop Around the Corner, Frank Morgan's character tries to commit suicide and is only thwarted at the last moment. Only Lubitsch could pull off an attempted suicide in a rom-com.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:26 AM (77rzZ)
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AMERICA....Fuck Yeaaaaaaah.... comin again to save the mutha fuckin day yeaaaah
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (nJthq)
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Agree. 95+% of what we're told about this war is bullshit propaganda.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2025 11:24 AM (g8Ew
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When it started, Sundance over at The Conservative Treehouse blog was mockingly calling it "World War Reddit."
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2025 11:24 AM (g8Ew
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When it started, Sundance over at The Conservative Treehouse blog was mockingly calling it "World War Reddit."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (NNq22)
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What I read from this is that Italy still has a chance to survive as Italian.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (zjgNU)
Except Italy’s native birth rate is at 1.2 or something like that. They’re dying out with or without immigrants.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (zjgNU)
Except Italy’s native birth rate is at 1.2 or something like that. They’re dying out with or without immigrants.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (udlma)
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119 Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
In Lubitsch's The Shop Around the Corner, Frank Morgan's character tries to commit suicide and is only thwarted at the last moment. Only Lubitsch could pull off an attempted suicide in a rom-com.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:26 AM (77rzZ)
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Good enough for a video! (soon...)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
In Lubitsch's The Shop Around the Corner, Frank Morgan's character tries to commit suicide and is only thwarted at the last moment. Only Lubitsch could pull off an attempted suicide in a rom-com.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:26 AM (77rzZ)
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Good enough for a video! (soon...)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (GBKbO)
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Ukraine vs Russia has been a proxy war for us. And as a proxy war it has accomplished a lot of the USA's goals at a high price in dollars (and thankfully not in American lives). We should remember that it is a proxy war and sometimes your proxy loses.
Logistically, I think the bases in Europe are too valuable to just abandon without having alternate facilities at the ready. But if we decided that our support for our Ukraine friends isn't worth the price we're paying, I'm 100% on board with wishing them luck and pulling the plug.
Logistically, I think the bases in Europe are too valuable to just abandon without having alternate facilities at the ready. But if we decided that our support for our Ukraine friends isn't worth the price we're paying, I'm 100% on board with wishing them luck and pulling the plug.
Posted by: Semper Why at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (CXFWL)
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (qv38K)
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And listen to the winds of change.
Posted by: Scorpions!! at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (VF6cf)
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39 Bismarck line.: the Americans are a lucky people. On the north and south bounded by repetitively weak nations. On the east and west bounded by fish.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (D+mpw)
Nice.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (D+mpw)
Nice.
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (RuTUS)
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Huge expose at The Post about the consummate , life long grifter and online terrorist, candy ovens : "Inside Candace Owens’ ‘sadistic and dangerous’ world monetizing baseless conspiracies"
https://tinyurl.com/58wz4x85
https://tinyurl.com/58wz4x85
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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Today the news reports the charging of the "transwoman" in this murder and standoff...
Ah, everything makes sense now.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (zjgNU)
There is a huge amount of pent-up violence in that population, and I hope it manifests against the establishment that pushed trans-everything.
Ah, everything makes sense now.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (zjgNU)
There is a huge amount of pent-up violence in that population, and I hope it manifests against the establishment that pushed trans-everything.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (n9ltV)
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Ukraine (before Russia invaded) was likely the second largest military in Europe, though Poland is probably now larger. Conquering Ukraine never was going to be an easy task, except in the year 2021 fever dreams of Putin and his generals.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I rather suspect that the Russians would have been successful if they weren't idiots. I mean, invading Ukraine at the BEGINNING of the mud season???!? That stupidity forced them to keep all of their men and equipment on the roads where they were easy pickings for Uke anti-armor.
Once they got bogged down on the roads, defeat or Great War II: Trench Warfare Electric Boogaloo was inevitable. They may still defeat the Ukes, but it'll be damned expensive, and it may end up bringing down the whole country in the process. Depends on how badly the ChiComs want Siberia's resources.
Ukraine (before Russia invaded) was likely the second largest military in Europe, though Poland is probably now larger. Conquering Ukraine never was going to be an easy task, except in the year 2021 fever dreams of Putin and his generals.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q+8fu)
I rather suspect that the Russians would have been successful if they weren't idiots. I mean, invading Ukraine at the BEGINNING of the mud season???!? That stupidity forced them to keep all of their men and equipment on the roads where they were easy pickings for Uke anti-armor.
Once they got bogged down on the roads, defeat or Great War II: Trench Warfare Electric Boogaloo was inevitable. They may still defeat the Ukes, but it'll be damned expensive, and it may end up bringing down the whole country in the process. Depends on how badly the ChiComs want Siberia's resources.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (y9nCu)
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The spice will continue to flow. If Russia brings out the atomics then it's a done deal. That won't happen.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (nljXp)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (XuXeR)
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Europe is a dump heap and the people living there are garbage.
Time for them to go away and stop bothering the grown ups.
Time for them to go away and stop bothering the grown ups.
Posted by: Europa Is A Dirty Whore at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (YyIMQ)
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Also "Iron Beam:"
The laser defense system developed by Israel and the United States -- a high-energy laser air defense system designed to intercept short-range rockets, artillery shells, mortars, and drones.
[And eventually directed EMP weapons.]
Agreed, but that won't solve the problem of tractor trailers loaded with drones and dispersed around the country - at least for a while. Those systems aren't cheap, and we're a long way from being able to provide them for every revetment, dock, and bunker.
The laser defense system developed by Israel and the United States -- a high-energy laser air defense system designed to intercept short-range rockets, artillery shells, mortars, and drones.
[And eventually directed EMP weapons.]
Agreed, but that won't solve the problem of tractor trailers loaded with drones and dispersed around the country - at least for a while. Those systems aren't cheap, and we're a long way from being able to provide them for every revetment, dock, and bunker.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
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122 What I read from this is that Italy still has a chance to survive as Italian.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (zjgNU)
Except Italy’s native birth rate is at 1.2 or something like that. They’re dying out with or without immigrants.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (udlma)
Is that where the Paolo is from?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:22 AM (zjgNU)
Except Italy’s native birth rate is at 1.2 or something like that. They’re dying out with or without immigrants.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (udlma)
Is that where the Paolo is from?
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (XuXeR)
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war that is merely a distraction from the real conflict: Islam vs. the West?
And that right there is the existential question.
Unless the West physically expels ALL Islam, necessarily by force, we will lose our civilization.
Sounds dramatic, but is hardly debatable.
And that right there is the existential question.
Unless the West physically expels ALL Islam, necessarily by force, we will lose our civilization.
Sounds dramatic, but is hardly debatable.
Posted by: RI Red at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (7Pd3v)
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Good enough for a video! (soon...)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I might actually have to watch that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I might actually have to watch that.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
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>>They were doing that, and then we ran a color revolution in Ukraine and kicked out the Russian's corrupt President, installed our own corrupt President and Russia decided they had to go to the mattress to 'rebuild' the borders to 1988 lines.
And we didn't just run a color revolution and leave. We've been running Ukraine since the Maidan coup. Well the CIA has been running it.
The war has always been a proxy war between Russia and NATO. Ukraine was a useful pawn but without the hundreds of billions in weapons, intel and cash poured into Ukraine by the west Russia would have won a long time ago.
And we didn't just run a color revolution and leave. We've been running Ukraine since the Maidan coup. Well the CIA has been running it.
The war has always been a proxy war between Russia and NATO. Ukraine was a useful pawn but without the hundreds of billions in weapons, intel and cash poured into Ukraine by the west Russia would have won a long time ago.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (viF8m)
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Eastern European countries
These?
(Wikipedia)
In broadest definition, there are 28 countries that constitute the region of Eastern Europe: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey (East Thrace), and Ukraine.
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM
Dafuq? When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
These?
(Wikipedia)
In broadest definition, there are 28 countries that constitute the region of Eastern Europe: Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Turkey (East Thrace), and Ukraine.
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM
Dafuq? When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (kgE5c)
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138 Good enough for a video! (soon...)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I might actually have to watch that.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Friday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I might actually have to watch that.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Friday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 16, 2025 11:27 AM (qv38K)
"Messiah Trump" . I laughed- loudly. Trump is not my Messiah. He's my President.
"Messiah Trump" . I laughed- loudly. Trump is not my Messiah. He's my President.
Posted by: AliasJonesJones at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (2sfNr)
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Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine in three and a half years? That is a shocking realization for Putin and his generals,
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Russia isn't fighting only Ukraine in Ukraine.
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Russia isn't fighting only Ukraine in Ukraine.
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (qrkyB)
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Today the news reports the charging of the "transwoman" in this murder and standoff...
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The Great Transgender Genocide proceeds unabated and apace ...
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The Great Transgender Genocide proceeds unabated and apace ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (NNq22)
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141 138 Good enough for a video! (soon...)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I might actually have to watch that.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Friday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
Rebecca Black or Ice Cube?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I might actually have to watch that.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)
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Friday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
Rebecca Black or Ice Cube?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (xcxpd)
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The way I remember it, seemingly right on the heels of the disastrous, middle of the night let’s not tell anybody even our allies we’re leaving Afghanistan (where some non-trivial amount of multi-billions in weaponry and aircraft were criminally abandoned)
All of a sudden, the Narrative did this pivot to “Rally Round The Flag, Boys!” on the Ukraine. We simply had to protect their “freedom and democracy” despite everyone knowing they aren’t free or even close to a democracy.
Then the usual suspects got in front of the cameras on all the state networks and demanding eleventy gazillion dollars a year in perpetuity for this debacle, or they threatened Americans directly to do otherwise would mean “boots on the ground” in the Ukraine. Extortion.
Couldn’t believe it. And even more unbelievable were all these old hippie “antiwar” freaks leading the charge. I am in awe of the power of government suggestion & hypnosis, or whatever it is that turns ordinary people into raving idiots.
The don’t GAF about their own family, but they are deeply, deeply concerned about Transnistria, or methane levels on Jupiter’s outer moons. Ya gotta admit that’s amazing shit.
All of a sudden, the Narrative did this pivot to “Rally Round The Flag, Boys!” on the Ukraine. We simply had to protect their “freedom and democracy” despite everyone knowing they aren’t free or even close to a democracy.
Then the usual suspects got in front of the cameras on all the state networks and demanding eleventy gazillion dollars a year in perpetuity for this debacle, or they threatened Americans directly to do otherwise would mean “boots on the ground” in the Ukraine. Extortion.
Couldn’t believe it. And even more unbelievable were all these old hippie “antiwar” freaks leading the charge. I am in awe of the power of government suggestion & hypnosis, or whatever it is that turns ordinary people into raving idiots.
The don’t GAF about their own family, but they are deeply, deeply concerned about Transnistria, or methane levels on Jupiter’s outer moons. Ya gotta admit that’s amazing shit.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (E4WLu)
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Also "Iron Beam:"
The laser defense system developed by Israel and the United States -- a high-energy laser air defense system designed to intercept short-range rockets, artillery shells, mortars, and drones.
[And eventually directed EMP weapons.]
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe
Or just the equivalent of CIWS using hopped-up shotgun/flechette rounds. Much less impacted by atmospheric conditions. Also, I'm old fashioned like that.
The laser defense system developed by Israel and the United States -- a high-energy laser air defense system designed to intercept short-range rockets, artillery shells, mortars, and drones.
[And eventually directed EMP weapons.]
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe
Or just the equivalent of CIWS using hopped-up shotgun/flechette rounds. Much less impacted by atmospheric conditions. Also, I'm old fashioned like that.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (OUMaO)
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some choice bits !
"She wasn’t invited to Charlie’s [2021] wedding. That was really telling.” "
"A source who knows the family said George (her husbad) “has never had a real job” and is mostly known for his lackluster attempt to launch a right-wing Twitter alternative called Parler, which is still active, but has a dwindling number of users."
"She wasn’t invited to Charlie’s [2021] wedding. That was really telling.” "
"A source who knows the family said George (her husbad) “has never had a real job” and is mostly known for his lackluster attempt to launch a right-wing Twitter alternative called Parler, which is still active, but has a dwindling number of users."
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (g47mK)
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Inside Candace Owens"
Nope. Wouldn't be prudent...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM
Rule #1.
Nope. Wouldn't be prudent...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM
Rule #1.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (kgE5c)
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Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
Indeed. The Shop Around the Corner is one of my favorite romantic comedy-drama films.
Indeed. The Shop Around the Corner is one of my favorite romantic comedy-drama films.
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (2L+MU)
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Leftist Euros will believe in multiculturalism right up to and including their beheading.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (udlma)
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Bismarck line.: the Americans are a lucky people. On the north and south bounded by repetitively weak nations. On the east and west bounded by fish.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (D+mpw)
Nice.
Posted by: m
Didn't Bismarck also say something along the lines of "God takes care of lunatics, drunks, and the United States of America"?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:09 AM (D+mpw)
Nice.
Posted by: m
Didn't Bismarck also say something along the lines of "God takes care of lunatics, drunks, and the United States of America"?
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)
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real power couple! Like Mr and Mrs Markle!
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (g47mK)
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Dafuq? When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (kgE5c)
Well it's not Western European, it's not Asian. Where would you categorize it?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (kgE5c)
Well it's not Western European, it's not Asian. Where would you categorize it?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (xcxpd)
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145 Friday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
Rebecca Black or Ice Cube?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (xcxpd)
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Rebecca Black is an unsung musical genius at the same level as Dead or Alive!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
Rebecca Black or Ice Cube?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (xcxpd)
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Rebecca Black is an unsung musical genius at the same level as Dead or Alive!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
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Repeat after me: "We are not the world's policeman."
This also erodes the real warfighting capabilities of the military. Being the "policeman" since 1950 has cause us to fail in just about every conflict since. We fight well, but we have forgotten how to win.
This also erodes the real warfighting capabilities of the military. Being the "policeman" since 1950 has cause us to fail in just about every conflict since. We fight well, but we have forgotten how to win.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (2WIwB)
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The don’t GAF about their own family, but they are deeply, deeply concerned about Transnistria, or methane levels on Jupiter’s outer moons. Ya gotta admit that’s amazing shit.
Posted by: Common Tater
The NPC meme found purchase for a reason.
Posted by: Common Tater
The NPC meme found purchase for a reason.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (OUMaO)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
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[ZERO] Fresh reporting in Reuters has tracked at least five supertankers which have changed course on Monday after initially heading to Venezuela to load crude oil, following this month's US naval seizure of a Venezuelan tanker.
Among these was a Russian tanker transporting crude for Venezuela’s state-owned oil company PDVSA, along with at least four other supertankers en route to Venezuelan ports. They made u-turns on fears of facing US military interdiction.
This also comes after last Friday Bloomberg and others reported that Washington was preparing to carry out further seizures of sanction-linked oil tankers off Venezuela's coast.
Among these was a Russian tanker transporting crude for Venezuela’s state-owned oil company PDVSA, along with at least four other supertankers en route to Venezuelan ports. They made u-turns on fears of facing US military interdiction.
This also comes after last Friday Bloomberg and others reported that Washington was preparing to carry out further seizures of sanction-linked oil tankers off Venezuela's coast.
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (TN0g+)
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158 I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Great news !
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Great news !
Posted by: It's me donna at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (VE6XX)
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158 I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Yay on all that!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Yay on all that!
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (RuTUS)
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>> I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Great news.
Great news.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (viF8m)
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Leftist Euros will believe in multiculturalism right up to and including their beheading.
As predicted in Camp of the Saints.
As predicted in Camp of the Saints.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (xTIDn)
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@152 Bulg, I believe so. He also had some great quotes about the Russians many of them involving calling the Russians "apes"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (D+mpw)
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150 Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
Indeed. The Shop Around the Corner is one of my favorite romantic comedy-drama films.
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (2L+MU)
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I found out that Lubitsch is in the trailer. It's just Frank Morgan talking to the camera with some clips from the movie, and then Lubitsch wanders into frame. Morgan won't let him talk.
It's amusing.
Indeed. The Shop Around the Corner is one of my favorite romantic comedy-drama films.
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:30 AM (2L+MU)
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I found out that Lubitsch is in the trailer. It's just Frank Morgan talking to the camera with some clips from the movie, and then Lubitsch wanders into frame. Morgan won't let him talk.
It's amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
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Dafuq? When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
It's located in southeastern Europe. The Balkans also count as Eastern Europe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
It's located in southeastern Europe. The Balkans also count as Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM (77rzZ)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
Awesome! Rest well.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
Awesome! Rest well.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (OUMaO)
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He also had some great quotes about the Russians many of them involving calling the Russians "apes"
Hitler said the Russians were strong backs and weak minds.
Hitler said the Russians were strong backs and weak minds.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
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@158 great to hear jim , get some rest
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (D+mpw)
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Do we need an expose to know Candy Cane Owens is a grifter? Lol.
For me this is a hate the game not the player thing. She figured out there is a sizable amount of retarded people online who will believe her shit. I can’t blame her for capitalizing on it.
For me this is a hate the game not the player thing. She figured out there is a sizable amount of retarded people online who will believe her shit. I can’t blame her for capitalizing on it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (udlma)
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"Guarantee a certain level of access to American weapons, paid for in cash. Guarantee a certain level of intelligence cooperation. Guarantee support in the United Nations (remember that?) for a just peace."
Then do the EXACT same thing for Israel.
Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Then do the EXACT same thing for Israel.
Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
Great news, Jim. What bar are going to for the celebration?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
Great news, Jim. What bar are going to for the celebration?
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)
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Inside Candace Owens"
Nope. Wouldn't be prudent...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (XuXeR)
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There's no way to depict that Crazy Axis in two-dimensional space.
Nope. Wouldn't be prudent...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:29 AM (XuXeR)
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There's no way to depict that Crazy Axis in two-dimensional space.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (NNq22)
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (RuTUS)
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158 I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Nice going, Jim! Wishing you a speedy recovery (and a long, restorative nap).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Nice going, Jim! Wishing you a speedy recovery (and a long, restorative nap).
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (2L+MU)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (ufSfZ)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)
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Imagine if there was some way to guarantee a separation between Europe and Russia, some sort of, I dunno, a trade union that included Poland, Hungary, Austria and Italy that would both guarantee free trade between themselves from the Baltic to the Adriatic, and from East to West.
It could be called Mitteleuropa or something.
It could be called Mitteleuropa or something.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (rbvCR)
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Agreed. Now do the Middle East. We just had some soldiers killed there.
Posted by: No Name Today at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (8mulE)
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176 Ernst Lubitsch, man...high quality talent. Taken too soon.
I love The Doll.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (ufSfZ)
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For good reason!
Have you seen The Oyster Princess or The Wildcat?
I love The Doll.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (ufSfZ)
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For good reason!
Have you seen The Oyster Princess or The Wildcat?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)
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Yeah Greece may be geographically “Eastern Europe” but culturally they’re not really.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (udlma)
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Of course there are private schools and parochial schools which might skew the numbers down some and maybe it’s 35% when according for that. But no matter the number, within a couple of generations whites will be a small minority in the state.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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And if the non-whites are persuaded to vote a certain way, racial justice will at long last be achieved.
Of course there are private schools and parochial schools which might skew the numbers down some and maybe it’s 35% when according for that. But no matter the number, within a couple of generations whites will be a small minority in the state.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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And if the non-whites are persuaded to vote a certain way, racial justice will at long last be achieved.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (n7rxJ)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
get well soon , jim!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
get well soon , jim!
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (g47mK)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
Glad to hear it, Jim!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital)
Glad to hear it, Jim!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (xcxpd)
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Susie Wiles gives multiple interviews to Vanity Fair over the last year.
Now that part one of the two-part piece has dropped, Susie Wiles complains that it's a hit piece.
WTF did she think Vanity Fair would do?
Now that part one of the two-part piece has dropped, Susie Wiles complains that it's a hit piece.
WTF did she think Vanity Fair would do?
Posted by: one hour sober at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (wBaIH)
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165 I found out that Lubitsch is in the trailer. It's just Frank Morgan talking to the camera with some clips from the movie, and then Lubitsch wanders into frame. Morgan won't let him talk. - The James Madison
I'll have to look for that. Thanks.
I'll have to look for that. Thanks.
Posted by: Paco at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (2L+MU)
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Is Bismarck a herring?
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:36 AM (XuXeR)
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181 Yeah Greece may be geographically “Eastern Europe” but culturally they’re not really.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (udlma)
They are in the land of the Orthodox, like most of Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:34 AM (udlma)
They are in the land of the Orthodox, like most of Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 16, 2025 11:36 AM (tOcjL)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2025 11:36 AM (fPt6j)
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"Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine in three and a half years? That is a shocking realization for Putin and his generals, and no amount of obfuscation on their part will change that."
Well, Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine ... so long as Uke was backed up and supported by literally the entire Western world. Without the full support and cooperation of the West -- and 100s of billions of dollars -- Uke would have folded after 6 months. Which would have been a much better result.
Well, Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine ... so long as Uke was backed up and supported by literally the entire Western world. Without the full support and cooperation of the West -- and 100s of billions of dollars -- Uke would have folded after 6 months. Which would have been a much better result.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:37 AM (iFTx/)
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Just from watching YouTube, it seems at least half of Ukraine's offensive is small drones and land mines. But Russia uses drones as well.
Someone (Israel) is already working on laser weapons to shoot down drones. We need some array of weapons that can take out a 1000 drone attack, as well as taking out hypersonic missiles. The next hot war will be different, I'd guess.
Someone (Israel) is already working on laser weapons to shoot down drones. We need some array of weapons that can take out a 1000 drone attack, as well as taking out hypersonic missiles. The next hot war will be different, I'd guess.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 16, 2025 11:37 AM (vbXSk)
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European leaders, after WW1, decided a great way to stop wars was to simply declare that all borders are sacrosanct, forever and ever. Except for the bad guy's in a dispute, of course... like Germany after WW1.
Posted by: GWB at December 16, 2025 11:37 AM (KCWZY)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:37 AM (XuXeR)
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If you want to watch a pretty good twice daily summary of the war, on YouTube there's a channel called Military Summary. He's from Belarus so a little pro Russian, but the Russians say he's pro Uke . He says never listen to what you hear unless it is supported by geolocated vids. He can babble about peace talks and politics a bit, but he's good at showing what's happening on the ground
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 11:37 AM (D+mpw)
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That's not an expose. It's littered with sources say and invective and quotes from one named person that I saw that are a lot less inflammatory.
I've known what Owens was while she was still being elevated and worshiped by many, but I stopped listening to anonymous insider quotes a long longshit time ago.
I've known what Owens was while she was still being elevated and worshiped by many, but I stopped listening to anonymous insider quotes a long longshit time ago.
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2025 11:38 AM (EdF9K)
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Armenia s actually entirely in Asia. So is Cyprus as far as I'm concerned. Both are parts of the Middle East.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:38 AM (77rzZ)
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No more American soldiers...
Pretty good odds DEV group has and still is there for the past four years.
Pretty good odds DEV group has and still is there for the past four years.
Posted by: Inogame at December 16, 2025 11:38 AM (53oGX)
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European leaders, after WW1, decided a great way to stop wars was to simply declare that all borders are sacrosanct, forever and ever. Except for the bad guy's in a dispute, of course... like Germany after WW1.
Let's not forget the Washington and London Naval Treaties. They worked really well to limit ship capabilities - on our side. Of course, Japan and Germany just built what they wanted anyway.
Let's not forget the Washington and London Naval Treaties. They worked really well to limit ship capabilities - on our side. Of course, Japan and Germany just built what they wanted anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)
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Then do the EXACT same thing for Israel.
Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
While I agree with the idea that our soldiers/marines should never die for another country, when exactly were our Marines/Sailors dying for Israel?
Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
While I agree with the idea that our soldiers/marines should never die for another country, when exactly were our Marines/Sailors dying for Israel?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:38 AM (zjgNU)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
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Dafuq? When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
It's located in southeastern Europe. The Balkans also count as Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM
I doubt the Greeks would ever consider themselves Eastern European, borderline geography notwithstanding. Then there's that whole cradle of western civ thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
It's located in southeastern Europe. The Balkans also count as Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:32 AM
I doubt the Greeks would ever consider themselves Eastern European, borderline geography notwithstanding. Then there's that whole cradle of western civ thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:39 AM (kgE5c)
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While I agree with the idea that our soldiers/marines should never die for another country, when exactly were our Marines/Sailors dying for Israel?
Shhhh, he's rolling.
Shhhh, he's rolling.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:39 AM (Riz8t)
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SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:39 AM (kgE5c)
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Another quote of Bismarck's was that "some damn foolish thing in the Balkans" would cause WWI.
Prescient, that.
Prescient, that.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)
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159 [ZERO] Fresh reporting in Reuters has tracked at least five supertankers which have changed course on Monday after initially heading to Venezuela to load crude oil, following this month's US naval seizure of a Venezuelan tanker."
This is fantastic news, and proof that Trump's plan is working. Again, time for ranting against the idiots who call themselves "reporters" for any outlet, who are unable to see or understand the campaign. Maduro sits at the top of a vast criminal organization, often referred to as the Cartel de los Soles. It's probably more of a loose association of all the criminal enterprises in that region, including the Columbians, than the more tightly run Cartels. To keep control of it requires a vast amount of cash - everyone has to paid off, constantly, and Maduro has militias keeping control in Venezuela that have to be paid off as well. (not to mention his army)
Trump is systematically depriving Maduro of all of his cash.
This is fantastic news, and proof that Trump's plan is working. Again, time for ranting against the idiots who call themselves "reporters" for any outlet, who are unable to see or understand the campaign. Maduro sits at the top of a vast criminal organization, often referred to as the Cartel de los Soles. It's probably more of a loose association of all the criminal enterprises in that region, including the Columbians, than the more tightly run Cartels. To keep control of it requires a vast amount of cash - everyone has to paid off, constantly, and Maduro has militias keeping control in Venezuela that have to be paid off as well. (not to mention his army)
Trump is systematically depriving Maduro of all of his cash.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:39 AM (uWKK8)
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Speaking of Russia, we are doing bear oblique hops today. Woohoo!
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:40 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Yeah, europe isn't worth the life of a single american soldier. Fuck, it ain't worth the life of an american house fly. Add australia to the list too. When I see their leaders get the mussolini treatment maybe I'll reconsider, but for now all I see is countries spreading their ass cheeks for islam, and the best thing to do is sit back until there is nothing left in those places BUT islam, then neutron bomb it and seize the real estate.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2025 11:40 AM (snZF9)
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Thank you for the prayers in the last thread. As always, we are eternally grateful to you all.
First Lady is on her way to pick him up, so we'll see what her evaluation is before heading back. She may be stopping in Paris at the ER. We'll see.
First Lady is on her way to pick him up, so we'll see what her evaluation is before heading back. She may be stopping in Paris at the ER. We'll see.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:40 AM (Zz0t1)
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Agreed, but that won't solve the problem of tractor trailers loaded with drones and dispersed around the country - at least for a while. Those systems aren't cheap, and we're a long way from being able to provide them for every revetment, dock, and bunker.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
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True. And not only are our military installations not hardened, but think of how vulnerable our civilian infrastructure is -- especially the electrical grids -- to terrorist attacks.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
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True. And not only are our military installations not hardened, but think of how vulnerable our civilian infrastructure is -- especially the electrical grids -- to terrorist attacks.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (NNq22)
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‘ The don’t GAF about their own family, but they are deeply, deeply concerned about Transnistria, or methane levels on Jupiter’s outer moons.’
The farther away the more they care. The closer? They give less than a shit.
Dickens had them pegged 150 years ago with Mrs. Jellyby
‘ The don’t GAF about their own family, but they are deeply, deeply concerned about Transnistria, or methane levels on Jupiter’s outer moons.’
The farther away the more they care. The closer? They give less than a shit.
Dickens had them pegged 150 years ago with Mrs. Jellyby
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (jbnUc)
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Oh, then plant a united states of earth flag.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (snZF9)
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> Just from watching YouTube, it seems at least half of Ukraine's offensive is small drones and land mines. But Russia uses drones as well.
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Ukraine has developed (with obvious help) a fleet of ocean going, one way suicide drone boats. One of them was used to hit a submarine while it was in port. There's video of that. Plus Ukraine has used these type of drone boats to attack Russia's so-called "dark fleet" of tankers they used to avoid sanctions on importing / exporting oil.
An off-the-cuff analysis suggests Ukraine (with help) has inflicted a fair amount of military damage on Russia while draining them of much needed money.
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Ukraine has developed (with obvious help) a fleet of ocean going, one way suicide drone boats. One of them was used to hit a submarine while it was in port. There's video of that. Plus Ukraine has used these type of drone boats to attack Russia's so-called "dark fleet" of tankers they used to avoid sanctions on importing / exporting oil.
An off-the-cuff analysis suggests Ukraine (with help) has inflicted a fair amount of military damage on Russia while draining them of much needed money.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (NwnyJ)
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Los Angeles is no longer an American city. Neither in NYC. Every city will cease to be American over the coming decades.
You can bug out to Wyoming I guess and still have old America for 25,30 years. But eventually all that becomes is like one of those white areas in South Africa. You’ll still be a second class citizen always looking over your shoulder.
You can bug out to Wyoming I guess and still have old America for 25,30 years. But eventually all that becomes is like one of those white areas in South Africa. You’ll still be a second class citizen always looking over your shoulder.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (udlma)
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Another RINO whines:
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.”
Last month, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that TPS will end for tens of thousands of Haitian migrants come February 2026 — leaving them with no legal status to remain in the U.S.
DHS officials are urging Haitians on TPS to self-deport before they are arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.
DeWine, in an interview with local Ohio media, complained that DHS’s potentially deporting Haitian migrants — particularly from Springfield, Ohio, where the Haitian population has exploded — will open American jobs.
“Some of the economic progress that Springfield has made would go away,” DeWine said, according to Cleveland.com:
“Employers tell me many of these, maybe most of these Haitians working there will no longer be legal,” DeWine said. And once that happens, “you’re going to have a lot of unfilled jobs.”
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.”
Last month, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that TPS will end for tens of thousands of Haitian migrants come February 2026 — leaving them with no legal status to remain in the U.S.
DHS officials are urging Haitians on TPS to self-deport before they are arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.
DeWine, in an interview with local Ohio media, complained that DHS’s potentially deporting Haitian migrants — particularly from Springfield, Ohio, where the Haitian population has exploded — will open American jobs.
“Some of the economic progress that Springfield has made would go away,” DeWine said, according to Cleveland.com:
“Employers tell me many of these, maybe most of these Haitians working there will no longer be legal,” DeWine said. And once that happens, “you’re going to have a lot of unfilled jobs.”
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)
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>Airlift everyone and all the equipment out over the course of like a week without any announcement.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at
Kinda like Robert Irsay did with the Baltimore Colts.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
Ouch. Why ya gotta pick that scab?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at
Kinda like Robert Irsay did with the Baltimore Colts.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 16, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
Ouch. Why ya gotta pick that scab?
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (c2vsb)
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I doubt the Greeks would ever consider themselves Eastern European, borderline geography notwithstanding. Then there's that whole cradle of western civ thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
In the early Middle Ages, Greece was massively overrun by Slavs. Modern Greeks have more Slavic DNA than Classical Greek DNA.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
In the early Middle Ages, Greece was massively overrun by Slavs. Modern Greeks have more Slavic DNA than Classical Greek DNA.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
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Piper-
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM
Excellent news!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM
Excellent news!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (kgE5c)
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Also, require Ukraine be audited by someone chosen by the US gov't every 6 months. I think the DOGE crew might be a good start. Sure, the gov't might pick scum USAID-type liars to do it's work under some administrations, but all it would take is one honest accounting to invalidate the guarantees, for good.
Posted by: GWB at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (KCWZY)
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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.”
Every time they say this, after the vacancies are posted, the local AMERICANS looking for work fill the lobby to fill out applications.
It's past time for you to f*ck right off with that noise. Americans WANT to work, you douchetard.
Every time they say this, after the vacancies are posted, the local AMERICANS looking for work fill the lobby to fill out applications.
It's past time for you to f*ck right off with that noise. Americans WANT to work, you douchetard.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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I am not nearly so concerned with the goings on in Europe and Europe adjacent as I am about America and America adjacent. Does that make me a filthy isolationist?? Maybe I guess.
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (pDt9x)
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Agreed, but that won't solve the problem of tractor trailers loaded with drones and dispersed around the country - at least for a while. Those systems aren't cheap, and we're a long way from being able to provide them for every revetment, dock, and bunker.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
Oooo... I love sporting clays.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)
Oooo... I love sporting clays.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:43 AM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:43 AM (XuXeR)
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Get in, destroy all their people and stuff and tell them they'll be back if they mess with us again.
It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (zjgNU)
THIS! A thousand times THIS.
It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:02 AM (zjgNU)
THIS! A thousand times THIS.
Posted by: GWB at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (KCWZY)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (pkeXY)
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The cash Maduro needs comes almost competely from two sources - the Oil trade and the illegal drug trade. Each drug boat hit costs him several million dollars; that tanker that was seized probably lost him $100 million. Each tanker that turns away from Venezuela causes a similar loss.
If Maduro can't keep the cash flowing, his own subordinates will take him out and cut a deal.
If Maduro can't keep the cash flowing, his own subordinates will take him out and cut a deal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (uWKK8)
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The way I remember it, seemingly right on the heels of the disastrous, middle of the night let’s not tell anybody even our allies we’re leaving Afghanistan (where some non-trivial amount of multi-billions in weaponry and aircraft were criminally abandoned)
All of a sudden, the Narrative did this pivot to “Rally Round The Flag, Boys!” on the Ukraine. We simply had to protect their “freedom and democracy” despite everyone knowing they aren’t free or even close to a democracy.
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That was The AutoPen Empire and GloboHomo Deep State giving the green light for Russia to invade as well as 10/7.
All of a sudden, the Narrative did this pivot to “Rally Round The Flag, Boys!” on the Ukraine. We simply had to protect their “freedom and democracy” despite everyone knowing they aren’t free or even close to a democracy.
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That was The AutoPen Empire and GloboHomo Deep State giving the green light for Russia to invade as well as 10/7.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (NNq22)
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"[France and Germany] want American soldiers to do their dirty work, so they can enjoy some strudel and a good Eiswein, or a lovely croissant and a couple of espressos while they read the news of American blood and treasure being spent once again in Europe." - CBD
Les croissants et l'espresso sont pour les touristes américains.
Les croissants et l'espresso sont pour les touristes américains.
Posted by: Gauloises and Gitanes at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (uv8gn)
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We cannot afford a trillion dollar defense department. There is $9 trillion of debt coming due in 2026 that will be paid with Fed counterfeiting.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (2ap+5)
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Speaking of Russia, we are doing bear oblique hops today. Woohoo!
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:40 AM
Hmmm...I've never brewed with those. Any good?
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:40 AM
Hmmm...I've never brewed with those. Any good?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (kgE5c)
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It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
THIS! A thousand times THIS.
Posted by: GWB
But that's when the money is made!
It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
THIS! A thousand times THIS.
Posted by: GWB
But that's when the money is made!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (pkeXY)
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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.”
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That’s all three cucks care about, filling low skilled jobs. Ok jobs will go unfilled. So what? I’d rather have my country preserved than a meat packing plant staying open.
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That’s all three cucks care about, filling low skilled jobs. Ok jobs will go unfilled. So what? I’d rather have my country preserved than a meat packing plant staying open.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (udlma)
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230 The cash Maduro needs comes almost competely from two sources - the Oil trade and the illegal drug trade. Each drug boat hit costs him several million dollars; that tanker that was seized probably lost him $100 million. Each tanker that turns away from Venezuela causes a similar loss.
If Maduro can't keep the cash flowing, his own subordinates will take him out and cut a deal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (uWKK
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Oh, I image each drug boat contains of tens of millions of lost revenue suddenly under the gulf.
And transporting by land all the way up is just so much harder. That's why they use boats to begin with.
If Maduro can't keep the cash flowing, his own subordinates will take him out and cut a deal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:44 AM (uWKK
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Oh, I image each drug boat contains of tens of millions of lost revenue suddenly under the gulf.
And transporting by land all the way up is just so much harder. That's why they use boats to begin with.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
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I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim
Sleep well!
Posted by: jim
Sleep well!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 16, 2025 11:46 AM (kfTpm)
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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.”
*raises hand*
What percentage of the Haitians are getting some form of welfare? If they're all working, why do they need it?
*raises hand*
What percentage of the Haitians are getting some form of welfare? If they're all working, why do they need it?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
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That's excellent news Jim!!!
Posted by: ... at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (Wo1GJ)
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But that's when the money is made!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM
I though merchandizing was where the real money was made.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM
I though merchandizing was where the real money was made.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (kgE5c)
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than a meat packing plant staying open.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Than a Chinese meat packing plant staying open!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Than a Chinese meat packing plant staying open!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (kfTpm)
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220 Piper-
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)
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It's not our job to rebuild.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Everybody likes to analogize "nation-building" to what we did with Germany and Japan after WWII. What they forget is that 1) both countries were decimated, so that we could rebuild them essentially from scratch, and b) both the Germans and the Japanese were highly intelligent, educated, and disciplined people. That made the rebuilding process easier for them, and easier for us.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
Everybody likes to analogize "nation-building" to what we did with Germany and Japan after WWII. What they forget is that 1) both countries were decimated, so that we could rebuild them essentially from scratch, and b) both the Germans and the Japanese were highly intelligent, educated, and disciplined people. That made the rebuilding process easier for them, and easier for us.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (77rzZ)
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This is like people who say if you take out Seattle, Washington is a deep red state. Well OK but Seattle is where most people in the state live. You can’t just wave a magic wand and make them disappear.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (udlma)
*ahem*
This is like people who say if you take out Seattle, Washington is a deep red state. Well OK but Seattle is where most people in the state live. You can’t just wave a magic wand and make them disappear.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (udlma)
*ahem*
Posted by: Zombie Edward Teller at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (y9nCu)
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In the early Middle Ages, Greece was massively overrun by Slavs. Modern Greeks have more Slavic DNA than Classical Greek DNA.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
Well the slavs were the only ones there who would have sex with the women.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)
Well the slavs were the only ones there who would have sex with the women.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM (uWKK8)
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Kyiv's Top Negotiator Hails 'Real Progress' During 2nd Day of Peace Talks in Berlin
Let me, progress back towards the original deal? The EU is pounding sand and starting to like it?
Let me, progress back towards the original deal? The EU is pounding sand and starting to like it?
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM (NZkDE)
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https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
She has big cans.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
She has big cans.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)
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185 Susie Wiles gives multiple interviews to Vanity Fair over the last year.
Now that part one of the two-part piece has dropped, Susie Wiles complains that it's a hit piece.
WTF did she think Vanity Fair would do?
Posted by: one hour sober at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (Y1sOo)
Never talk to cops or the press
Now that part one of the two-part piece has dropped, Susie Wiles complains that it's a hit piece.
WTF did she think Vanity Fair would do?
Posted by: one hour sober at December 16, 2025 11:35 AM (Y1sOo)
Never talk to cops or the press
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM (xcxpd)
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Oh, I image each drug boat contains of tens of millions of lost revenue suddenly under the gulf.
And transporting by land all the way up is just so much harder. That's why they use boats to begin with.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
The real question is will shark bites increase due to them being drugged or in withdrawal.
And transporting by land all the way up is just so much harder. That's why they use boats to begin with.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
The real question is will shark bites increase due to them being drugged or in withdrawal.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Pathetically, Ohio may actually miss DeWine when Vivek takes over.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (2ap+5)
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Los Angeles is no longer an American city. Neither in NYC. Every city will cease to be American over the coming decades.
You can bug out to Wyoming I guess and still have old America for 25,30 years. But eventually all that becomes is like one of those white areas in South Africa. You’ll still be a second class citizen always looking over your shoulder.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (udlma)
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Have you been to Wyoming recently? The more populated areas (Jackson Hole, Teton Village, etc) are filled with immigrants and most are almost certainly illegal. The entire hospitality industry there -- which is the biggest industry in the area -- is all hispanics who speak not a word of English. There's still lifties and ski patrol and service staff who are white, but all the people in the background -- cleaning people, the grunts, the manual labor -- is all brown skins.
You can bug out to Wyoming I guess and still have old America for 25,30 years. But eventually all that becomes is like one of those white areas in South Africa. You’ll still be a second class citizen always looking over your shoulder.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:41 AM (udlma)
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Have you been to Wyoming recently? The more populated areas (Jackson Hole, Teton Village, etc) are filled with immigrants and most are almost certainly illegal. The entire hospitality industry there -- which is the biggest industry in the area -- is all hispanics who speak not a word of English. There's still lifties and ski patrol and service staff who are white, but all the people in the background -- cleaning people, the grunts, the manual labor -- is all brown skins.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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The DeWine mentality is what drives me crazy about the GOP. They see the US as a place conduct business and nothing more. It’s just about muhJobCreators and low taxes for them. That’s not a country.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (udlma)
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It's a donut.
We must Dunk the Bismarck!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
If you have a Bismarck and a Napoleon next to each other on the same tray, do they immediately start fighting?
We must Dunk the Bismarck!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
If you have a Bismarck and a Napoleon next to each other on the same tray, do they immediately start fighting?
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ)
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Jobs will go “unfilled.”
WTF does that even mean?
It's just gibberish... and not even the authentic frontier kind...
WTF does that even mean?
It's just gibberish... and not even the authentic frontier kind...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (XuXeR)
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Piper-
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)
I will not be providing extra compensation for this or any other collaboration.
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)
I will not be providing extra compensation for this or any other collaboration.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 11:50 AM (c2vsb)
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Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM
I don't know if you've ever seen the EweToob channel The Refashioned Hippie. She has a lot of shorts snarking at silly fashions. "Where Are We Going in This?" is a regular feature.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM
I don't know if you've ever seen the EweToob channel The Refashioned Hippie. She has a lot of shorts snarking at silly fashions. "Where Are We Going in This?" is a regular feature.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:50 AM (kgE5c)
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Have you been to Wyoming recently? The more populated areas (Jackson Hole, Teton Village, etc) are filled with immigrants and most are almost certainly illegal. The entire hospitality industry there -- which is the biggest industry in the area -- is all hispanics who speak not a word of English. There's still lifties and ski patrol and service staff who are white, but all the people in the background -- cleaning people, the grunts, the manual labor -- is all brown skins.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I have never skied Jackson. But yeah I can imagine it. Park City is like that as well.
Wyoming still has the middle of nowhere small towns that are old America. For now.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I have never skied Jackson. But yeah I can imagine it. Park City is like that as well.
Wyoming still has the middle of nowhere small towns that are old America. For now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:51 AM (udlma)
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How funny would it be that Ukraine joins the EU, then the people revolt and the EU disbands because it's an overbearing bureaucracy filled with unelected communist retards and the countries have had enough.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:51 AM (Zz0t1)
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Have you been to Wyoming recently? The more populated areas (Jackson Hole, Teton Village, etc) are filled with immigrants and most are almost certainly illegal. The entire hospitality industry there -- which is the biggest industry in the area -- is all hispanics who speak not a word of English. There's still lifties and ski patrol and service staff who are white, but all the people in the background -- cleaning people, the grunts, the manual labor -- is all brown skins.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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I've heard that the Jackson 'holes' only objection is to the migrant camps being set up in the parks.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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I've heard that the Jackson 'holes' only objection is to the migrant camps being set up in the parks.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 16, 2025 11:51 AM (2ap+5)
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I will not be providing extra compensation for this or any other collaboration.
Posted by: Doof
Fine. And I'm not paying you the usage fee for my earlier obtuseness.
Posted by: Doof
Fine. And I'm not paying you the usage fee for my earlier obtuseness.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (77rzZ)
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We do have Sailors in eastern Europe, specifically the Aegis Ashore BMD sites in Poland and Romania.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (gUs21)
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Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Who were the US Marines and Sailors who "died for Israel?"
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Who were the US Marines and Sailors who "died for Israel?"
Posted by: front toward enemy at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (TIizU)
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Everybody likes to analogize "nation-building" to what we did with Germany and Japan after WWII. What they forget is that 1) both countries were decimated, so that we could rebuild them essentially from scratch, and b) both the Germans and the Japanese were highly intelligent, educated, and disciplined WESTERN people. That made the rebuilding process easier for them, and easier for us.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (77rzZ)
It's not just that they were educated and disciplined. It's that both Germany and Japan were populated by people from Western Civilization. (Japan had made a point in the 1800s to adopt Western Society as much as they possibly could, somewhat merging their native culture with Western. That's why it wasn't a struggle to set up a Western-style government post WWII.)
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (77rzZ)
It's not just that they were educated and disciplined. It's that both Germany and Japan were populated by people from Western Civilization. (Japan had made a point in the 1800s to adopt Western Society as much as they possibly could, somewhat merging their native culture with Western. That's why it wasn't a struggle to set up a Western-style government post WWII.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (zjgNU)
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Getting the band back together.
>>@PpollingNumbers
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>>Elon Musk started funding the GOP's House and Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.
>>@PpollingNumbers
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>>Elon Musk started funding the GOP's House and Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (viF8m)
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Oh good. Mr H1B is funding the GOP again.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (udlma)
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I will not be providing extra compensation for this or any other collaboration.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025
When our collab sells out quicker than Starbucks x roller rabbit, you will be sorry!
I will not be providing extra compensation for this or any other collaboration.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025
When our collab sells out quicker than Starbucks x roller rabbit, you will be sorry!
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) ... if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants..., jobs will go “unfilled.”
Meat packing plants are the new cotton plantations. Sorry for your loss, Massa!
Meat packing plants are the new cotton plantations. Sorry for your loss, Massa!
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (NZkDE)
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255 Jobs will go “unfilled.”
WTF does that even mean?
It's just gibberish... and not even the authentic frontier kind...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (XuXeR)
It means "jobs paying $6 an hour plus room and board in a cheap hotel that sleeps 8 to the room will go unfilled."
WTF does that even mean?
It's just gibberish... and not even the authentic frontier kind...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (XuXeR)
It means "jobs paying $6 an hour plus room and board in a cheap hotel that sleeps 8 to the room will go unfilled."
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK8)
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I see Archimedes beat me to the Refashioned Hippie link.
She has big cans.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM
Yes. Yes, she does. You'd get a chuckle out of her "Bad Design" videos. "Gentlemen...did anyone run this logo by just one 13-year old boy before running with it?"
She has big cans.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM
Yes. Yes, she does. You'd get a chuckle out of her "Bad Design" videos. "Gentlemen...did anyone run this logo by just one 13-year old boy before running with it?"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (kgE5c)
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (77rzZ)
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OT sidebar but DO check out TJM's Frank Capra list. It's really good and there were a lot of films on that list. Some lesser known gems in there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (xcxpd)
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Via GP:
Providence Police Chief Oscar Perez Jr., on Monday, evaded questions on the Brown University shooter and declined to say what witnesses claim the shooter yelled before opening fire at the university.
If the shooter were a White male, we would likely know everything about him.
Rhode Island Officials held a press conference on Monday to provide updates on the Saturday shooting and ongoing investigation as the manhunt for the shooter remains underway.
Witnesses say the shooter “yelled something” before killing two students and wounding nine more, and early reports suggest the shooter shouted “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire.
Providence Police Chief Oscar Perez Jr., on Monday, evaded questions on the Brown University shooter and declined to say what witnesses claim the shooter yelled before opening fire at the university.
If the shooter were a White male, we would likely know everything about him.
Rhode Island Officials held a press conference on Monday to provide updates on the Saturday shooting and ongoing investigation as the manhunt for the shooter remains underway.
Witnesses say the shooter “yelled something” before killing two students and wounding nine more, and early reports suggest the shooter shouted “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire.
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (TN0g+)
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It's just gibberish... and not even the authentic frontier kind...
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (XuXeR)
It means "jobs paying $6 an hour plus room and board in a cheap hotel that sleeps 8 to the room will go unfilled."
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK
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It means "Tyson Foods won't deposit their annual check into my campaign account as usual."
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (XuXeR)
It means "jobs paying $6 an hour plus room and board in a cheap hotel that sleeps 8 to the room will go unfilled."
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK
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It means "Tyson Foods won't deposit their annual check into my campaign account as usual."
Posted by: ballistic at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (3BwY8)
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Wyoming still has the middle of nowhere small towns that are old America. For now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Thanks for letting us know where to direct the next planes!!
~State dept weenies
Wyoming still has the middle of nowhere small towns that are old America. For now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Thanks for letting us know where to direct the next planes!!
~State dept weenies
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (kfTpm)
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Imagine the horror if companies in Ohio had to pay American citizens a decent wage. We can’t have that. No sir!! If we do that it means the terrorists have won or something.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (udlma)
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*"Russia couldn't conquer Ukraine in three and a half years? That is a shocking realization for Putin and his generals, and no amount of obfuscation on their part will change that."*
But they're not fighting *Ukraine*. They're fighting $700B in US funding and weaponry to the point where the United States has a bullet shortage. If you have that much money and weaponry, you too can ward off a global superpower for three and a half years.
But they're not fighting *Ukraine*. They're fighting $700B in US funding and weaponry to the point where the United States has a bullet shortage. If you have that much money and weaponry, you too can ward off a global superpower for three and a half years.
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (YINx+)
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272 OT sidebar but DO check out TJM's Frank Capra list. It's really good and there were a lot of films on that list. Some lesser known gems in there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (xcxpd)
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Thankee.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:54 AM (xcxpd)
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Thankee.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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I see Archimedes beat me to the Refashioned Hippie link.
She has big cans.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM
Yes. Yes, she does. You'd get a chuckle out of her "Bad Design" videos. "Gentlemen...did anyone run this logo by just one 13-year old boy before running with it?"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
So we can have a fashion thread and a boob thread!
She has big cans.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:48 AM
Yes. Yes, she does. You'd get a chuckle out of her "Bad Design" videos. "Gentlemen...did anyone run this logo by just one 13-year old boy before running with it?"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
So we can have a fashion thread and a boob thread!
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)
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Piper-
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Not all of their stuff is stupid and idiotic. The Thunderdome-ish boots and bags are basically post-punk and popular with the 20-something urban girls. I like them.
I'm glad you're here. I have a suggestion for an upcoming fashion thread. It would be along the lines of this video.
https://is.gd/NGJTtw
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)
Haha! We could do another round of couture or fake! Balenciaga as a house likes being known as weird. They work at it and wax on philosophically about the commentary being made on culture while others nod sagely like what was said makes any sense at all.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:47 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Not all of their stuff is stupid and idiotic. The Thunderdome-ish boots and bags are basically post-punk and popular with the 20-something urban girls. I like them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
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263 Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Who were the US Marines and Sailors who "died for Israel?"
Posted by: front toward enemy at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (TIizU)
A lot died in Lebanon. But not for Israel.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Who were the US Marines and Sailors who "died for Israel?"
Posted by: front toward enemy at December 16, 2025 11:52 AM (TIizU)
A lot died in Lebanon. But not for Israel.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (xcxpd)
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I don't know if you've ever seen the EweToob channel The Refashioned Hippie. She has a lot of shorts snarking at silly fashions. "Where Are We Going in This?" is a regular feature.
I have. She posts lots of hilarious stuff, including the one at my #177.
177 Here's something light and amusing:
https://is.gd/ghR2DI
I don't know if you've ever seen the EweToob channel The Refashioned Hippie. She has a lot of shorts snarking at silly fashions. "Where Are We Going in This?" is a regular feature.
I have. She posts lots of hilarious stuff, including the one at my #177.
177 Here's something light and amusing:
https://is.gd/ghR2DI
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (Riz8t)
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yes, imo we should remain The World's Superpower, but friendly liberty minded countries need to supply manpower and cash -- as we provide leadership, technology, and various political persuasions.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (vbXSk)
I'm back!
Posted by: illiniwek at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (vbXSk)
I'm back!
Posted by: Tribute at December 16, 2025 11:57 AM (QN4pI)
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So we can have a fashion thread and a boob thread!
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)
And she's more of the big bowacka variety, not 'sweater puppy.'
So we can have a fashion thread and a boob thread!
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)
And she's more of the big bowacka variety, not 'sweater puppy.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
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Capitalism at all costs is in part what led to the invasion.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:57 AM (udlma)
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If you have a Bismarck and a Napoleon next to each other on the same tray, do they immediately start fighting?
Creme fraiche at 20 paces!
Creme fraiche at 20 paces!
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:57 AM (XuXeR)
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@PpollingNumbers
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>>Elon Musk started funding the GOP's House and Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.
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If he has spare change left over I wish he'd pour it into the Indiana state senate races.
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>>Elon Musk started funding the GOP's House and Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.
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If he has spare change left over I wish he'd pour it into the Indiana state senate races.
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:57 AM (TN0g+)
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jim in california I am so happy for you. Praise God ( and a shoutout to your surgeons)!,,,
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (pDt9x)
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8 Neither Russia nor Ukraine have any incentive to stop fighting. So they won't.
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Make that Putin and Zelinsky don't have any incentive to stop fighting. Putin because he is winning, Zelinsky because his own survival and wealth might end with the war.
I think both average Russians and Ukrainians are well tired of it but the leaders in any conflict are the last to consider ending a war. Iran and Iraq War dragged on for 8 years or so as a killing machine.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Make that Putin and Zelinsky don't have any incentive to stop fighting. Putin because he is winning, Zelinsky because his own survival and wealth might end with the war.
I think both average Russians and Ukrainians are well tired of it but the leaders in any conflict are the last to consider ending a war. Iran and Iraq War dragged on for 8 years or so as a killing machine.
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (WDjG6)
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Good Rant and, yes, you're right.
This isn't a good thing to say, I guess, but I don't trust NATO & think it'll do as it desires (even if that means taking baby steps) behind this President's back in an effort to wait him out.
And the EU, hell no, never! in as far as trust. The ICC is not staying within its 'legal' boundaries, such as they are. The EU's Euroclear is having a grand time collecting tax revenues from profits generated by Russia's frozen central bank funds AND soaking the US through NATO, the UN, etc. They're all in when it come to support of Netflix created Zelenskyy's never-ending whataboutisms & theft, and they'll let it into the EU likely before 2030 though they deny it. (And then how the hell do you not support Ukraine via NATO?)
(The PA's Army National Guard's Independence Brigade (56th Stryker Brigade Combat Team) is actively involved in training Ukrainian forces in Germany, focusing on essential skills, tactics, and defense doctrines to enhance Ukraine's ability to defend its sovereignty. PA's National Guard (MPAD) also just deployed a public affairs unit for a year-long mission supporting U.S. Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR).)
But Poland, 👍
This isn't a good thing to say, I guess, but I don't trust NATO & think it'll do as it desires (even if that means taking baby steps) behind this President's back in an effort to wait him out.
And the EU, hell no, never! in as far as trust. The ICC is not staying within its 'legal' boundaries, such as they are. The EU's Euroclear is having a grand time collecting tax revenues from profits generated by Russia's frozen central bank funds AND soaking the US through NATO, the UN, etc. They're all in when it come to support of Netflix created Zelenskyy's never-ending whataboutisms & theft, and they'll let it into the EU likely before 2030 though they deny it. (And then how the hell do you not support Ukraine via NATO?)
(The PA's Army National Guard's Independence Brigade (56th Stryker Brigade Combat Team) is actively involved in training Ukrainian forces in Germany, focusing on essential skills, tactics, and defense doctrines to enhance Ukraine's ability to defend its sovereignty. PA's National Guard (MPAD) also just deployed a public affairs unit for a year-long mission supporting U.S. Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR).)
But Poland, 👍
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)
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Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
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I'm starting to think the EUs job is destroy Europe.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (Dv3i1)
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DeWine funded some missionary or similar type work in Haiti in honor of his daughter (who died in a car crash in Ohio???) and he decided to make his pet project the responsibility of the whole state.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (2ap+5)
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Capitalism at all costs is in part what led to the invasion.
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No. We can't pillory the left for warping common terms, so we similarly can't blame this on "capitalism" ("at all costs" or otherwise).
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No. We can't pillory the left for warping common terms, so we similarly can't blame this on "capitalism" ("at all costs" or otherwise).
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (TN0g+)
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Not all of their stuff is stupid and idiotic. The Thunderdome-ish boots and bags are basically post-punk and popular with the 20-something urban girls. I like them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
It’s not, they have a few things I like. But as a house, you cannot deny they aim for weird and they do it on purpose. It’s their thing.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
It’s not, they have a few things I like. But as a house, you cannot deny they aim for weird and they do it on purpose. It’s their thing.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (ZdaMQ)
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291 Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV
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Took meh' jerb!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV
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Took meh' jerb!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)
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Is Bismarck a herring?
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:36 AM (XuXeR)
Yes, unfortunately they taste like blood and Iron.
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 11:36 AM (XuXeR)
Yes, unfortunately they taste like blood and Iron.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (rbvCR)
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Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
Someone's circumcision did NOT go well......
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
Someone's circumcision did NOT go well......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)
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295 Not all of their stuff is stupid and idiotic. The Thunderdome-ish boots and bags are basically post-punk and popular with the 20-something urban girls. I like them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
It’s not, they have a few things I like. But as a house, you cannot deny they aim for weird and they do it on purpose. It’s their thing.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (ZdaMQ)
It's the demon worship. Makes brain worms.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
It’s not, they have a few things I like. But as a house, you cannot deny they aim for weird and they do it on purpose. It’s their thing.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (ZdaMQ)
It's the demon worship. Makes brain worms.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (xcxpd)
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As an Ohioan, I can report that DeWine is a putz. And a dweeb.
Posted by: tsj017 at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (ZiGm9)
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300 As an Ohioan, I can report that DeWine is a putz. And a dweeb.
Posted by: tsj017 at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (ZiGm9)
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Who rules you with an iron fist.
Posted by: tsj017 at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (ZiGm9)
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Who rules you with an iron fist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
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When our collab sells out quicker than Starbucks x roller rabbit, you will be sorry!
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)
I have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)
I have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (c2vsb)
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Employers tell me many of these, maybe most of these illegal Haitians working there will no longer be legal,” DeWine said. And once that happens, “you’re going to have a lot of unfilled jobs.”
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What a fucking clown. I hope these fuckers die in a fire. Maybe it will be on YouTube
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What a fucking clown. I hope these fuckers die in a fire. Maybe it will be on YouTube
Posted by: Common Tater at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (E4WLu)
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I have. She posts lots of hilarious stuff, including the one at my #177.
177 Here's something light and amusing:
https://is.gd/ghR2DI
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM
I realized that after my post. I'm behind the power curve today. "Googling on Gummies" is an amusing feature as well.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hdXjc_A9ZvQ
177 Here's something light and amusing:
https://is.gd/ghR2DI
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM
I realized that after my post. I'm behind the power curve today. "Googling on Gummies" is an amusing feature as well.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hdXjc_A9ZvQ
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (kgE5c)
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291 Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
Snort.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
Snort.
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (pDt9x)
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This isn't a good thing to say, I guess, but I don't trust NATO & think it'll do as it desires (even if that means taking baby steps) behind this President's back in an effort to wait him out.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)
If you trusted NATO (or the EU) that would be a damning reflection on your intelligence.
They want America to pay for their adventures in Ukraine, and they want American blood to be spilled. Nothing more complicated than that.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)
If you trusted NATO (or the EU) that would be a damning reflection on your intelligence.
They want America to pay for their adventures in Ukraine, and they want American blood to be spilled. Nothing more complicated than that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (n9ltV)
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Have you been to Wyoming recently? The more populated areas (Jackson Hole, Teton Village, etc) are filled with immigrants and most are almost certainly illegal. The entire hospitality industry there -- which is the biggest industry in the area -- is all hispanics who speak not a word of English. There's still lifties and ski patrol and service staff who are white, but all the people in the background -- cleaning people, the grunts, the manual labor -- is all brown skins.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I have never skied Jackson. But yeah I can imagine it. Park City is like that as well.
Wyoming still has the middle of nowhere small towns that are old America. For now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:51 AM (udlma)
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I ski Jackson hole every year, and go to Utah (Alta) 3-4x a year. The Utah ski and hospitality industry was overrun by hispanics maybe 10 years ago. Jackson was more recent, maybe 5 years ago. Montana (Big Sky) is currently being overrun.
All the other ski destinations were overrun many years ago (Colorado, CA, VT, etc.). The hospitality industry is addicted to cheap labor who will do anything.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
I have never skied Jackson. But yeah I can imagine it. Park City is like that as well.
Wyoming still has the middle of nowhere small towns that are old America. For now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:51 AM (udlma)
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I ski Jackson hole every year, and go to Utah (Alta) 3-4x a year. The Utah ski and hospitality industry was overrun by hispanics maybe 10 years ago. Jackson was more recent, maybe 5 years ago. Montana (Big Sky) is currently being overrun.
All the other ski destinations were overrun many years ago (Colorado, CA, VT, etc.). The hospitality industry is addicted to cheap labor who will do anything.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 12:00 PM (iFTx/)
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287 @PpollingNumbers
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>>Elon Musk started funding the GOP's House and Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.
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He is in the same shape the rest of us are: we know the rank and file GOPe critters are vile backstabbing, money grubbing, pieces of shit. Yet, it says something when they are infinitely better at not ensuring civilizational destruction than almost all Democrats. Aesop's fable of the frogs--in a binary choice, King Log (do nothing) is always better than King Stork (gobbles the frogs stupid enough to want gubmint to do something for them).
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>>Elon Musk started funding the GOP's House and Senate campaigns for the 2026 midterms.
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He is in the same shape the rest of us are: we know the rank and file GOPe critters are vile backstabbing, money grubbing, pieces of shit. Yet, it says something when they are infinitely better at not ensuring civilizational destruction than almost all Democrats. Aesop's fable of the frogs--in a binary choice, King Log (do nothing) is always better than King Stork (gobbles the frogs stupid enough to want gubmint to do something for them).
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 12:01 PM (WDjG6)
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264 MacArthur whipped up a Constitution from the ashes of Japan in about a week. He's treated as a jingoistic joke by lefties in the US, but regarded as a savior to the Japanese.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 16, 2025 12:01 PM (wBaIH)
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Someone's circumcision did NOT go well......
Posted by: Sponge
This is about me, isn't it?
-- Zombie Ferdinand Magellan
Posted by: Sponge
This is about me, isn't it?
-- Zombie Ferdinand Magellan
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)
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Witnesses say the shooter “yelled something” before killing two students and wounding nine more, and early reports suggest the shooter shouted “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire.
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (TN0g+)
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He shouted the sheriff is near!
Posted by: Crusader at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (TN0g+)
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He shouted the sheriff is near!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2025 12:01 PM (u73oe)
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276 Imagine the horror if companies in Ohio had to pay American citizens a decent wage. We can’t have that. No sir!! If we do that it means the terrorists have won or something.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Missed a chance to sock as DeWine, or even for bonus points for Kasich.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Missed a chance to sock as DeWine, or even for bonus points for Kasich.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 16, 2025 12:01 PM (Dv3i1)
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You can’t just wave a magic wand and make them disappear.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (udlma)
Well, it's not a magic wand, but a pair of keys turned underground in the mountain states might.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:17 AM (udlma)
Well, it's not a magic wand, but a pair of keys turned underground in the mountain states might.
Posted by: GWB at December 16, 2025 12:01 PM (KCWZY)
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MacArthur whipped up a Constitution from the ashes of Japan in about a week. He's treated as a jingoistic joke by lefties in the US, but regarded as a savior to the Japanese.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
It was actually some American woman who wrote most of it.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
It was actually some American woman who wrote most of it.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (77rzZ)
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I realized that after my post. I'm behind the power curve today. "Googling on Gummies" is an amusing feature as well.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hdXjc_A9ZvQ
She sounds legitimately high - and still more coherent than Kamala.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hdXjc_A9ZvQ
She sounds legitimately high - and still more coherent than Kamala.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (Riz8t)
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It was actually some American woman who wrote most of it.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (77rzZ)
"And she was black."
- - - - - - Google AI
It was actually some American woman who wrote most of it.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (77rzZ)
"And she was black."
- - - - - - Google AI
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)
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Britain’s new intelligence chief warned on Dec. 15 that the UK is operating in an era when “the front line is everywhere,” as she set out an assessment of global threats and described Russia as an “aggressive, expansionist, and revisionist” power determined to export instability across Europe and beyond.
Britain’s new intelligence chief warned on Dec. 15 that the UK is operating in an era when “the front line is everywhere,” as she set out an assessment of global threats and described Russia as an “aggressive, expansionist, and revisionist” power determined to export instability across Europe and beyond.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)
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She sounds legitimately high - and still more coherent than Kamala.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM
I think she is. Title checks out.
And still more coherent than Kamala.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM
I think she is. Title checks out.
And still more coherent than Kamala.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 16, 2025 12:03 PM (kgE5c)
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‘ If he has spare change left over I wish he'd pour it into the Indiana state senate races.’
That would be so fucking cool!
‘ If he has spare change left over I wish he'd pour it into the Indiana state senate races.’
That would be so fucking cool!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 16, 2025 12:03 PM (jbnUc)
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DeWine funded some missionary or similar type work in Haiti
Ah, Clinton Foundation ties. This will get ugly.
Ah, Clinton Foundation ties. This will get ugly.
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2025 12:03 PM (NZkDE)
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Ukraine will get NOTHING and LIKE IT.
Posted by: Miken at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (l481V)
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Britain’s new intelligence chief warned on Dec. 15 that the UK is operating in an era when “the front line is everywhere,” as she set out an assessment of global threats and described Russia as an “aggressive, expansionist, and revisionist” power determined to export instability across Europe and beyond.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (pkeXY)
One word in this quote stands out. Can you spot it??
Britain’s new intelligence chief warned on Dec. 15 that the UK is operating in an era when “the front line is everywhere,” as she set out an assessment of global threats and described Russia as an “aggressive, expansionist, and revisionist” power determined to export instability across Europe and beyond.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (pkeXY)
One word in this quote stands out. Can you spot it??
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (pDt9x)
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early reports suggest the shooter shouted “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire."
This is MAGA country!
This is MAGA country!
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (XuXeR)
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It seems like every member of the Trump administration has taken to X today to defend Susie Wiles and hit back at Vanity Fair over their bullshit hit piece.
I like the aggression. Scorched earth.
I like the aggression. Scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
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But they're not fighting *Ukraine*. They're fighting $700B in US funding and weaponry to the point where the United States has a bullet shortage.
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (YINx+)
Yes, but their expectation was that they would roll through Ukraine, achieve their goals, and present it as a fait accompli before the West had time to react.
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 16, 2025 11:55 AM (YINx+)
Yes, but their expectation was that they would roll through Ukraine, achieve their goals, and present it as a fait accompli before the West had time to react.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 12:05 PM (n9ltV)
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Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.”
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That’s all three cucks care about, filling low skilled jobs. Ok jobs will go unfilled. So what? I’d rather have my country preserved than a meat packing plant staying open.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Every time we've done that, Americans have come out of the woodwork applying for the jobs.
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That’s all three cucks care about, filling low skilled jobs. Ok jobs will go unfilled. So what? I’d rather have my country preserved than a meat packing plant staying open.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Every time we've done that, Americans have come out of the woodwork applying for the jobs.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2025 12:05 PM (+x87d)
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Not all of their stuff is stupid and idiotic. The Thunderdome-ish boots and bags are basically post-punk and popular with the 20-something urban girls. I like them.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
It’s not, they have a few things I like. But as a house, you cannot deny they aim for weird and they do it on purpose. It’s their thing.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Well, it worked for JPG ... which is how I see Balenciaga, sorta like a more urban JPG, maybe mixed in with some Abboud.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)
It’s not, they have a few things I like. But as a house, you cannot deny they aim for weird and they do it on purpose. It’s their thing.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:59 AM (ZdaMQ)
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Well, it worked for JPG ... which is how I see Balenciaga, sorta like a more urban JPG, maybe mixed in with some Abboud.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 12:05 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:05 PM (XuXeR)
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DeWine said. And once that happens, “you’re going to have a lot of unfilled jobs.”
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What a fucking clown. I hope these fuckers die in a fire. Maybe it will be on YouTube
Posted by: Common Tater
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And yet a perfect example in a quote of a GloboHomo Chamber of Commerce GOPe former senator and now governor.
DeWino literally hates his own constituents that are white and do not want to work for megacorp for peanuts.
There is a reason that socialism starts to look good when all the megacorps are intent on hiring outsiders because cheaper and then enrolling them on the public dole just to avoid paying more.
Sounds great to the executives and investors, not so good for the average citizen worker in Ohio. They get taxed out the wazoo to support bringing in Haitians that destroy their communities, raise housing prices, and eat their dogs and cats so that megacorp can avoid paying the going rate for US laborers (and safety and sanitary conditions as well).
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What a fucking clown. I hope these fuckers die in a fire. Maybe it will be on YouTube
Posted by: Common Tater
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And yet a perfect example in a quote of a GloboHomo Chamber of Commerce GOPe former senator and now governor.
DeWino literally hates his own constituents that are white and do not want to work for megacorp for peanuts.
There is a reason that socialism starts to look good when all the megacorps are intent on hiring outsiders because cheaper and then enrolling them on the public dole just to avoid paying more.
Sounds great to the executives and investors, not so good for the average citizen worker in Ohio. They get taxed out the wazoo to support bringing in Haitians that destroy their communities, raise housing prices, and eat their dogs and cats so that megacorp can avoid paying the going rate for US laborers (and safety and sanitary conditions as well).
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 12:05 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (pkeXY)
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Britain’s new intelligence chief warned on Dec. 15 that the UK is operating in an era when “the front line is everywhere,” as she set out an assessment of global threats and described Russia as an “aggressive, expansionist, and revisionist” power determined to export instability across Europe and beyond.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (pkeXY)
One word in this quote stands out. Can you spot it??
Posted by: tubal
Chief. You can't be a woman and accept the title of chief. It's the same situation with 'chairman'.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2025 12:02 PM (pkeXY)
One word in this quote stands out. Can you spot it??
Posted by: tubal
Chief. You can't be a woman and accept the title of chief. It's the same situation with 'chairman'.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (Dv3i1)
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One word in this quote stands out. Can you spot it??
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (pDt9x)
I would be disappointed if it were anything other than a chick or a fake chick!
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (pDt9x)
I would be disappointed if it were anything other than a chick or a fake chick!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (n9ltV)
334
Halperin is reporting that the family of the Cook girl has been told she was the target. Halperin is usually pretty solid but we'll see
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (D+mpw)
335
325 It seems like every member of the Trump administration has taken to X today to defend Susie Wiles and hit back at Vanity Fair over their bullshit hit piece.
I like the aggression. Scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
I said before Trump’s election that I hoped he and his cohort would asct with a certain brutality and viciousness towards his, and our enemies. I guess that makes me not a Republican.
I like the aggression. Scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 16, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
I said before Trump’s election that I hoped he and his cohort would asct with a certain brutality and viciousness towards his, and our enemies. I guess that makes me not a Republican.
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (pDt9x)
336
Still haven't figured out why anybody listens to Candace Owens.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (nljXp)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (XuXeR)
338
289. I think both average Russians and Ukrainians are well tired of it but the leaders in any conflict are the last to consider ending a war. Iran and Iraq War dragged on for 8 years or so as a killing machine.
Posted by: whig
If Philadelphia newspapers weren't writing about supporting Ukraine and detesting The Donald and Russia, Russia, Russia! at least half of the alleged journalists, many "non-profits" and immigration services would be done and left picking sh*t with the chickens.
Posted by: whig
If Philadelphia newspapers weren't writing about supporting Ukraine and detesting The Donald and Russia, Russia, Russia! at least half of the alleged journalists, many "non-profits" and immigration services would be done and left picking sh*t with the chickens.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 16, 2025 12:07 PM (NFX2v)
339
The other real conflict is Democrats vs. America
Posted by: Agamemnon at December 16, 2025 12:07 PM (Ss/xc)
Posted by: mr tmz at December 16, 2025 12:07 PM (rJ48h)
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302 When our collab sells out quicker than Starbucks x roller rabbit, you will be sorry!
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)
I have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Doof at December
Roller Rabbit makes really cute PJs.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 11:53 AM (ZdaMQ)
I have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Doof at December
Roller Rabbit makes really cute PJs.
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 12:07 PM (ZdaMQ)
342
Damn. Slow again. .
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:07 PM (XuXeR)
343
DeWine's health commissioner , a COVID lockdown queen,is running for governor. She should not be anywhere near power
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (D+mpw)
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (NZkDE)
345
334 Halperin is reporting that the family of the Cook girl has been told she was the target. Halperin is usually pretty solid but we'll see
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (D+mpw)
Because Republican, Catholic or jilting love interest ?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (D+mpw)
Because Republican, Catholic or jilting love interest ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX)
346
I have no idea what that means.
Posted by: Doof
Ah, Doof has reclaimed his obtuseness.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)
Yeah, Piper lost me at Starbucks. By mentioning Starbucks -- not actually IN a Starbucks.
Posted by: Doof
Ah, Doof has reclaimed his obtuseness.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)
Yeah, Piper lost me at Starbucks. By mentioning Starbucks -- not actually IN a Starbucks.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (c2vsb)
347
Just wait until DeWine advocates for suing the government (with our tax dollars!) to defer the end of the "Temporary" protected status. I hope our AG tells him to pound sand.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (Dv3i1)
348
Roller Rabbit makes really cute PJs.
Posted by: Piper
My wife had some very cute flannel jammies from Nick and Nora.
Posted by: Piper
My wife had some very cute flannel jammies from Nick and Nora.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (77rzZ)
349
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R--sure he is) is complaining that if President Donald Trump deports Haitian migrants whose Temporary Protected Status (TPS) will soon end, jobs will go “unfilled.*”
* which will force my wealthy donors to raise wages for actual Americans until the jobs are filled. Can you possibly imagine the horror? The Horror
FIFY, Guv.
* which will force my wealthy donors to raise wages for actual Americans until the jobs are filled. Can you possibly imagine the horror? The Horror
FIFY, Guv.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (D0HYP)
350
343 DeWine's health commissioner , a COVID lockdown queen,is running for governor. She should not be anywhere near power
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (D+mpw)
Is anyone normal running for the R OH Gov spot?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (D+mpw)
Is anyone normal running for the R OH Gov spot?
Posted by: Nova Local at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (tOcjL)
351
Ohhh, flannel. Sexy.
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)
352
Ohhh, flannel. Sexy.
Posted by: man
Very cute.
It's when the flannel gets taken off that the sexy starts.
Posted by: man
Very cute.
It's when the flannel gets taken off that the sexy starts.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:10 PM (77rzZ)
353
Ohhh, flannel. Sexy.
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)
It's never the clothes, but who they're on. (And sometimes how they are worn.)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)
It's never the clothes, but who they're on. (And sometimes how they are worn.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 12:10 PM (zjgNU)
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345 334 Halperin is reporting that the family of the Cook girl has been told she was the target. Halperin is usually pretty solid but we'll see
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (D+mpw)
Because Republican, Catholic or jilting love interest ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX)
Or get even for getting embarrassed publicly...related to Republican, but not the same...
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:06 PM (D+mpw)
Because Republican, Catholic or jilting love interest ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX)
Or get even for getting embarrassed publicly...related to Republican, but not the same...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 16, 2025 12:10 PM (tOcjL)
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325 It seems like every member of the Trump administration has taken to X today to defend Susie Wiles and hit back at Vanity Fair over their bullshit hit piece.
I like the aggression. Scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw
It is inevitable that dumbass GOP administration types talk to reporters in private so to put their side of the story out. It inevitably backfires and scorches the dumbasses willing to believe that any journalist has ethics, morals, or a sense of truth.
These journalists only report on Democrat malfeasance and internal bickering after that administration is already over and their assholes are maneveuring during off season to point fingers and blame in order to position themselves for the next Dem administration.
The GOP types, and that included Trump in his first term, always believe that Lucy (the journalist) is really going to let them (Charlie Brown) kick the football this time. Trump II is better, for the most part going on their shows directly and trashing them and their narratives or going on favorable platforms rather than rely on journalist 'ethics'.
I like the aggression. Scorched earth.
Posted by: JackStraw
It is inevitable that dumbass GOP administration types talk to reporters in private so to put their side of the story out. It inevitably backfires and scorches the dumbasses willing to believe that any journalist has ethics, morals, or a sense of truth.
These journalists only report on Democrat malfeasance and internal bickering after that administration is already over and their assholes are maneveuring during off season to point fingers and blame in order to position themselves for the next Dem administration.
The GOP types, and that included Trump in his first term, always believe that Lucy (the journalist) is really going to let them (Charlie Brown) kick the football this time. Trump II is better, for the most part going on their shows directly and trashing them and their narratives or going on favorable platforms rather than rely on journalist 'ethics'.
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 12:11 PM (WDjG6)
356
My wife has a set of flannel PJs. They are fun for us.
Posted by: tubal at December 16, 2025 12:11 PM (pDt9x)
357
And no woman is sexy when she's bitching about the cold. So, in that respect, flannel helps the sexiness along.
Posted by: Bulg at December 16, 2025 12:12 PM (77rzZ)
358
Ohhh, flannel. Sexy.
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)
It's never the clothes, but who they're on. (And sometimes how they are worn.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 12:10 PM (zjgNU)
Flannel PJs were ruined by that beta dude who wanted to tell everyone about Obamacare
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)
It's never the clothes, but who they're on. (And sometimes how they are worn.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 16, 2025 12:10 PM (zjgNU)
Flannel PJs were ruined by that beta dude who wanted to tell everyone about Obamacare
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 12:12 PM (c2vsb)
359
Nude leftwing violent faggots
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 16, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)
360
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
I don't think we want to go there, Honey. Because USS Liberty is a sore subject best left untouched.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2025 11:58 AM (n9ltV)
I don't think we want to go there, Honey. Because USS Liberty is a sore subject best left untouched.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 16, 2025 12:13 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: man at December 16, 2025 12:13 PM (XuXeR)
362
. . . at least half of the alleged journalists, many "non-profits" and immigration services would be done and left picking sh*t with the chickens.
Posted by: L
=======
They aren't skilled enough to do that.
Posted by: L
=======
They aren't skilled enough to do that.
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 12:13 PM (WDjG6)
363
@350 Nova , I think she's running as a Dem
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 16, 2025 12:13 PM (D+mpw)
364
Elric- you see Abboud in Balenciaga? Abboud of the great classic suits? Not plays on suits, but classic, holy cow that suit is cut perfectly, Abboud?
Posted by: Piper at December 16, 2025 12:13 PM (ZdaMQ)
365
I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Terrific news, Jim! God bless.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia, in Hospital) at December 16, 2025 11:31 AM (EucNl)
Terrific news, Jim! God bless.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 16, 2025 12:14 PM (5xuJ/)
366
When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
Orthodox monks write very disparagingly of the influence of "The West." In code, that may mean the Roman church, but there it is, in cyrillic black and white.
When Turks held most of the Balkans, most of the area was "The Near East." That term is seldom used any more. In the day, it included The Lebanon and The Palestine. It's not just Europe's boundary that has floated.
Orthodox monks write very disparagingly of the influence of "The West." In code, that may mean the Roman church, but there it is, in cyrillic black and white.
When Turks held most of the Balkans, most of the area was "The Near East." That term is seldom used any more. In the day, it included The Lebanon and The Palestine. It's not just Europe's boundary that has floated.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 16, 2025 12:15 PM (zdLoL)
367
One word in this quote stands out. Can you spot it??
Apparently, it no longer stands out. 3 of the 4 directors (of which she was one) were already women.
Apparently, it no longer stands out. 3 of the 4 directors (of which she was one) were already women.
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2025 12:15 PM (NZkDE)
368
Show me on the doll where the mean Jew touched you...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
*kicks rocks. Walks away.
Babes of the IDF wouldn't even look at me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
*kicks rocks. Walks away.
Babes of the IDF wouldn't even look at me.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2025 12:17 PM (+x87d)
369
I said before Trump’s election that I hoped he and his cohort would asct with a certain brutality and viciousness towards his, and our enemies. I guess that makes me not a Republican.
Posted by: tubal
======
It is hilarious that trolls start by claiming to be lifelong Republicans when many of us here despise the Republican brand and many of their politicians as moneygrubbing backstabbing sobs.
Democrats more or less love their party and would follow their Pied Pipers into a river to be drowned just like rats did in the old story. So for them, they cannot understand that most of the GOP coalition only puts up with their pols to the extent that they actually do their jobs and prevents Democrats in office from actively harming them and their families.
It is not from loving GOP as a party.
Posted by: tubal
======
It is hilarious that trolls start by claiming to be lifelong Republicans when many of us here despise the Republican brand and many of their politicians as moneygrubbing backstabbing sobs.
Democrats more or less love their party and would follow their Pied Pipers into a river to be drowned just like rats did in the old story. So for them, they cannot understand that most of the GOP coalition only puts up with their pols to the extent that they actually do their jobs and prevents Democrats in office from actively harming them and their families.
It is not from loving GOP as a party.
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 12:18 PM (WDjG6)
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365 I'm reconnected. Surgery went well. Thanks for all the prayers. Off to sleep again...
Posted by: jim
======
May your recovery be swift and relatively peaceful.
Posted by: jim
======
May your recovery be swift and relatively peaceful.
Posted by: whig at December 16, 2025 12:19 PM (WDjG6)
371
When has Greece ever been considered an Eastern European country?
Orthodox monks write very disparagingly of the influence of "The West." In code, that may mean the Roman church, but there it is, in cyrillic black and white.
When Turks held most of the Balkans, most of the area was "The Near East." That term is seldom used any more. In the day, it included The Lebanon and The Palestine. It's not just Europe's boundary that has floated.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver
No Wermacht soldier was ever worried about being sent to Greece to the Eastern Front.
Orthodox monks write very disparagingly of the influence of "The West." In code, that may mean the Roman church, but there it is, in cyrillic black and white.
When Turks held most of the Balkans, most of the area was "The Near East." That term is seldom used any more. In the day, it included The Lebanon and The Palestine. It's not just Europe's boundary that has floated.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver
No Wermacht soldier was ever worried about being sent to Greece to the Eastern Front.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2025 12:21 PM (+x87d)
372
Of course there are private schools and parochial schools which might skew the numbers down some and maybe it’s 35% when according for that. But no matter the number, within a couple of generations whites will be a small minority in the state.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (udlma)
==
Yes and no. A substantial number of hispanics consider themselves white, and they are increasingly voting like it. By the third generation few will speak any version of Spanish, their kids already act like American kids and speak dialect free english. Their kids will barely understand anything more than food, some traditional music and some holiday traditions.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 16, 2025 11:25 AM (udlma)
==
Yes and no. A substantial number of hispanics consider themselves white, and they are increasingly voting like it. By the third generation few will speak any version of Spanish, their kids already act like American kids and speak dialect free english. Their kids will barely understand anything more than food, some traditional music and some holiday traditions.
Posted by: Black JEM at December 16, 2025 12:22 PM (GZYu7)
373
Politico, Dec. 15, 2025,
EU will be ‘severely damaged for years’ if assets plan fails, says Germany’s Merz
European diplomats say both Russia and the U.S. are piling pressure on EU countries to prevent a multibillion euro loan to Kyiv.
EU will be ‘severely damaged for years’ if assets plan fails, says Germany’s Merz
European diplomats say both Russia and the U.S. are piling pressure on EU countries to prevent a multibillion euro loan to Kyiv.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 16, 2025 12:23 PM (NFX2v)
374
In the U.S., Afghan Americans have been officially categorized as Caucasian for census purposes since 1945, placing them in the "White" racial category, which is where the perception of "white adjacency" originates.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 16, 2025 12:25 PM (NFX2v)
375
“ Stay out of Eastern Europe's territorial disputes. They have been going on for a very long time, and most of them have been nasty wars that expose the curious lack of interest in the lives of those who are fighting them.”
Indeed! This applies elsewhere too!
Indeed! This applies elsewhere too!
Posted by: Coach Howard Schnebrllenegr at December 16, 2025 12:28 PM (jG0ce)
376
Yeah, Piper lost me at Starbucks. By mentioning Starbucks -- not actually IN a Starbucks.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (c2vsb)
I haven't been in a Starsucks in years. I feel good about that.
Yeah, Piper lost me at Starbucks. By mentioning Starbucks -- not actually IN a Starbucks.
Posted by: Doof at December 16, 2025 12:08 PM (c2vsb)
I haven't been in a Starsucks in years. I feel good about that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 16, 2025 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)
377
No Wermacht soldier was ever worried about being sent to Greece to the Eastern Front.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2025 12:21 PM (+x87d)
However, the RUSSIAN front!!!!
No Wermacht soldier was ever worried about being sent to Greece to the Eastern Front.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2025 12:21 PM (+x87d)
However, the RUSSIAN front!!!!
Posted by: Col. Klink at December 16, 2025 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
378
nood
Posted by: m at December 16, 2025 01:04 PM (RuTUS)
379
Repeat after me: “these are the words of a whiny isolationist,”.
No, we do not need soldiers in Eastern Europe unless they are there for an exercise - but the isolationism and Code Pinkery that increasingly animate this blog is off putting.
Anytime I see the whine of “we are not the world’s policeman” I know I am dealing with somebody who regards being a superpower as a source of embarrassment and deep personal shame and want America to be as whiny and toothless as possible.
I look forward to being called a “warmonger”, mocked for my patriotism (I can’t sing, much less Yankee Doodle Dandy), or attacked for other reasons. I didn’t work for 22 years of my adult life to watch the country become the whiny little bitch so many here so desperately want to save a buck.
Peace through strength - deterrence - power projection - DIME
No, we do not need soldiers in Eastern Europe unless they are there for an exercise - but the isolationism and Code Pinkery that increasingly animate this blog is off putting.
Anytime I see the whine of “we are not the world’s policeman” I know I am dealing with somebody who regards being a superpower as a source of embarrassment and deep personal shame and want America to be as whiny and toothless as possible.
I look forward to being called a “warmonger”, mocked for my patriotism (I can’t sing, much less Yankee Doodle Dandy), or attacked for other reasons. I didn’t work for 22 years of my adult life to watch the country become the whiny little bitch so many here so desperately want to save a buck.
Peace through strength - deterrence - power projection - DIME
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 16, 2025 01:09 PM (rQwsY)
380
*263 Not a single US Marine or sailor needs to die for Israel EVER AGAIN.
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Who were the US Marines and Sailors who "died for Israel?"*
Search for "USS Liberty".
Posted by: The Minister of Propaganda at December 16, 2025 11:33 AM (WoA1s)
Who were the US Marines and Sailors who "died for Israel?"*
Search for "USS Liberty".
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 16, 2025 01:25 PM (YINx+)
381
"This war is going to end only when Ukraine and its European cheerleaders admit that they have lost territory that will probably never be returned."
Not so. Russia is on the edge of a financial collapse. When that happens, Russia will be able to hold nothing.
To 380: The Sailors of the Liberty did not die for Israel.
Not so. Russia is on the edge of a financial collapse. When that happens, Russia will be able to hold nothing.
To 380: The Sailors of the Liberty did not die for Israel.
Posted by: Quartermaster at December 16, 2025 05:13 PM (UOf2j)
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We need to stop getting involved in Other Nations Problems they need to start handling those problems themselves
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 16, 2025 05:27 PM (wGqjj)
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