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Sunday Morning Book Thread - 12-14-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
[Please keep current events in the thread below. This thread is a lighthearted respite from the world [CBD]]
Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever View image
guilty pleasure we feel like reading. Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...(HT: Nacly Dog)
So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, hum some Christmas tunes, and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?
NOTE: CBD has posted a thread below covering the horrific shooting in Australia. Why do these things keep happening right before the Sunday Morning Book Thread? (10/7 was similar, but also much, much worse.)
VIDEO NOTE
A couple of weeks ago I brought you a video about James Madison't library. Thomas Jefferson was also an avid collector and reader of books. It seemed to be the fashion at the time for the upper-class gentlemen in the American Colonies. Jefferson's method of organizing books was pretty simple--by subject and by size. Some of the folios he had are beautiful, using paper I didn't expect to see at that time in history.
READING AS PERFORMANCE ART
Gina points out a few of the more unsettling trends that have been showing up in recent years thanks to social media:
Collecting multiple editions of the same book - Within reason, I don't think this is a bad thing. However, if you have a dozen or more versions of the SAME BOOK just because you want different cover art, I'm not so sure that's a good thing. Seems like a waste of money to me. I myself have two copies of Lord of the Rings, as well as a few extra copies of select books. I don't make a huge point of getting a book just because I want THAT particular copy, though when I do find a book I really want then I might be particular about the cover.
Reading products and "hacks" - Who needs several drawers of annotation supplies? Do people really annotate each and every page of each and every book they read? Reading snack carts? That seems to be promoting unhealthy lifestyle. Also, Cheetos are the very WORST reading snack ever. Trust me. I know. I have many orange-stained pages to prove it. Also, does anyone really need twenty different Amazon products just to read a book more comfortably? Again, this seems to be promoting overconsumption of near-useless garbage. Moderation is the key.
Huge book hauls - I agree that this is very disturbing. Now, I have spent hundreds of dollars on books at once, though I don't do that anymore. I also only did it a couple of times a year when I happened to be near a Barnes and Noble bookstore. It was never a monthly habit. Even today, I generally only indulge in book hauls a couple of times a year through my local university and public library book sales. The result, of course, is that I have hundreds of books in my TBR pile and I have resigned myself to the fact that I probably won't get through them all. I don't believe that the people in these book haul videos even read their books, but it makes for easy content. It seems to be feeding into hoarding behavior. If or when these content creators move, they'll have to do something with all of their books. Not fun.
Ultimately, I suppose all of these social media "influencers" are creating a vicarious experience for those of us who cannot live that lifestyle. So it really is just a form of performance art. We watch these videos because we want to know what it's like to be able to do those things.
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LEE CHILD ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A WRITER (HT: OrangeEnt)
I know several of us (including myself) have read entries from Lee Child's Jack Reacher series. Here he gives us a breakdown of what it really takes to be a writer. He points out that you don't need a college degree in Fine Arts or anything like that. You do need to have the desire to pick up a pen and start writing, though. You also need to be a voracious READER. I've heard this many, many times. Most of my favorite authors turn out to have been avid readers in their youth before they ever started writing. Reading develops your vocabulary and allows you to see what's possible in storytelling. Then you can start crafting your own unique voice and style, synthesizing it from all of the authors you have read in the past.
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MORON RECOMMENDATIONS
If you're a cat lover, I think you'll enjoy Cat Tales, A History: How we learned to live with them... and they learned to live with us by Jerry D. Moore. He starts in prehistory when it was a predator/prey relationship on both sides, then on to mutually beneficial relationship of granary owner/mouser, and finally to fuzzy object d'art/slavish admirer.
He notes that there is an asymmetry in our relationships with other domesticated beasts that tips the relationship in humans' favor -- we use their meat, pelts, plumage, or power -- but not so with cats. We love their "intriguing indifference" to us humans. They don't perform as directed, and as for hunting rodents, terriers probably do a better job. So I guess we like them because they are Cool.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:53 AM (kpS4V)
Comment: If I didn't love my cats to much, I would have traded them to Gypsies in exchange for magic beans a long time ago. They do nothing around my house except eat my food, spit it back up, and shed their fur. Yet I wouldn't trade that for the world because they also bring me so much joy.
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This week I've been reading an odd one: Hellstrom's Hive, by Frank Herbert.
Apparently it was inspired by a quasi-documentary film called The Hellstrom Chronicle, which features a fictional scientist named Nils Hellstrom talking about how insects will inherit the earth. It looks as though Frank Herbert decided to create the fictional backstory for that film.
In the novel, Hellstrom is one of the leaders of a human hive hidden under a farm in Oregon. His cover is that he makes documentaries about insects. The hive and its members are pretty old -- Herbert doesn't actually explain how it began, but there are offhand references to migrations so presumably Oregon is just the latest home.
The hive is pretty damned creepy -- though since it was written in 1972 the cover copy and the non-hive characters in the book are all pretty excited about the NONSTOP SEX! in the hive. There's also a superweapon because the hive has some dudes with giant heads so it's more advanced than the rest of the Earth.
Opposing the Hive in the novel is an unnamed government agency, and Frank Herbert deliberately goes out of his way to make the Feds as unpleasant as possible, full of personal feuds, bureaucratic infighting, and some genuine totalitarian tendencies. The reader is left without anyone to "root for" which may explain the book's lackluster sales considering it was by the author of DUNE. I think Herbert was trying to depict the agency as kind of a rival hive of its own, just one without NONSTOP SEX! like Hellstrom's.
The book has all of Frank Herbert's strengths and weaknesses on display. The science is (for its time) solid, and the characters are vivid and well-drawn, if not especially likeable. It does have all his stylistic quirks -- lots of people's internal mental monologs, the viewpoint jumping from character to character within a scene, a touch of woo about evolution leading to some goal.
Worth a look -- I don't know if it's in print anymore. I got my copy from a giveaway pile at a science fiction convention a while back.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (78a2H)
Comment: Stephen Baxter also wrote a novel about a hive-like human society--Coalescent. I wonder if he was inspired by Herbert's novel. It's the sort of thing he would do. I also wonder if we are seeing hive-like behavior among humans in society today. The "NPC" meme got started for a reason--because a certain subgroup of humanity began acting in lockstep with each other, changing their positions and views according to the whims of their leaders.
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Rather apropos, I'm currently reading Gods & Beasts: The Nazis & the Occult, by Dusty Sklar. Published in 1977 (I believe it was reprinted in 1989 just as The Nazis and the Occult), the book examines the influence of paganism (particularly Nordic mythology and Hinduism) and the occult upon the German people both before and after WWI.
I'm only about half-way through, but the book really helps put Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP into perspective. He didn't rise to power in a vacuum: the Germans were already talking about a Messiah that was going to rejuvenate Germany before Hitler came on the scene.
A fairly short book (180 pages), it has an extensive bibliography. However, there is a lack of citations. Rating = 4.5/5.0
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (pJWtt)
Comment: People seem to be fascinated by the link between the Nazis and the occult. It shows up in a fair amount of pop-culture media. For instance, the Hellboy movie starring Ron Perlman and the Marvel Cinematic Universe both feature strong portrayals of Nazis dabbling in things they shouldn't. Raiders of the Lost Ark was an even earlier version of this trope. Is there anything to this idea? I dunno, but it makes for fun storytelling, combining two things that are generally forbidden (Nazism and occultism) in society.
A.H. Lloyd recommended this last week, so I decided to pull it off my shelf, blow the dust off it, and reread it. It's a very faithful novelization of the film, but as Lloyd pointed out there are a few additions which I think enhance the story a bit. The Emperor, Darth Vader, and Luke Skywalker have a little more dialogue in the book, as the Emperor attempts to turn Luke to the Dark Side of the Force. The idea of destroying Endor when the shield generator is destroyed adds a little more tension at the end, as Lando Calrissian races to destroy the Death Star's reactor before the Death Star can fire it's main weapon. Because this is a novel, we also get to peer inside character's heads from time to time, so we see why Darth Vader is finally redeemed at the end because he's willing to own up to his failings. Commander Jerjerrod is portrayed as a tyrannical popinjay. The classic obstructive bureaucrat.
Down the Bright Way by Robert Reed
The Makers created the Bright Way, a portal network linking a multiverse of Earth-like planets in a long chain. A million years ago, the humanoid Founders on a distant alternate Earth discovered how to travel the Bright Way. Their mission is to unite the various flavors of humanity on each of the alternate Earth's to form a utopian society that will last for aeons. Unfortunately, not every human society they discover along the Bright Way has the same goal in mind. Far, far down the Bright Way, many, many Earths from the Founder's homeworld, they encountered the UnFound, a version of humanity that knows only war and killing, determined to conquer and devour the countless Earths along the Bright Way.
I bought this many years ago when it first came out and just never got around to reading it until now. I thought it was an interesting take on the multiverse concept. It's similar in many ways to The Long Earth series by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter. The technology in Down the Bright Way is vastly different, but it still relies on travelers going on a linear path up or down the Chain of Creation (as P.C. Hodgell describes it in her Kencyrath series). I like the various epigraphs that are used at the beginning of each chapter or section. They provide a lot of interesting world-building context. We get to see some of the personal journal entries of two conflicting Founders as the events in the story play out. As science fiction stories go, it's not bad. Definitely an interesting read.
Star Wars: Darksaber by Kevin J. Anderson
Jabba the Hutt died eight years ago at the hands of a few plucky Rebels. In the aftermath of his death, the Hutt criminal empire scoured the ruins of Jabba's palace to find the darkest secrets buried within. Now the Hutt seek to create their own Death Star-equivalent superweapon to put their criminal empire on a more equal footing with the New Republic. Or to destroy the fledgling Republic and take over the galaxy. You know how Hutts are (Jabba was representative of his species).
The Hutts' genius plan--and I swear I am not making this up--is to build a Death Star laser that looks like a giant Jedi lightsaber in space. Using that weapon of terror, they will force the rest of the galaxy into submission. Being Hutts, they are cheap bastards, so they hired Three Stooges, LLC, to construct their superweapon. It goes about as well as you would expect.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the galaxy (quite literally since Hutt Space and the Imperial Remnants are on opposite ends of the Star Wars Galaxy according to official maps), the Imperial Remnant is stirring up trouble, hoping to crush the Republic and restore their beloved Empire. Naturally, the original heroes from Star Wars--Luke, Han, and Leia--are caught in the middle.
Darksaber was written when the Star Wars novel publication rights were held by Bantam Spectra. The writers of that time didn't have too many original ideas, so they kept falling back on bigger and weirder superweapons for their main plots.
When the rights were purchased by Del Rey, they had the good sense to do a soft reboot of the franchise and developed The New Jedi Order series of stories, which are about a race of invading aliens from outside the galaxy who exist outside the Force somehow. Much better stories overall. The Bantam Spectra storylines are still "canon" within the Del Rey storylines, but the overall storylines tended to be much more varied and complex as the writers explored other Jedi besides the original power trio of Luke, Han, and Leia.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (Ia/+0)
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Blucher Scourge of Napoleon
Campaign and Commanders series book #41 Michael V. Leggierre
At beginning of the Waterloo campaign so not much more to go.
Finally after 40 years of reading Napoleonic era history a explanation of a Saxon mutiny at this time. Only ever read short reports of it.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 14, 2025 09:01 AM (QVmho)
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Good morning again dear horde and thanks Perfessor
"If I didn't love my cats to much, I would have traded them to Gypsies in exchange for magic beans a long time ago."
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No substitute for the love of a good pussycat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:01 AM (9ipOP)
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That video is very funny. Thanks Perfesser and Orange Ent!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (PFs9e)
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The only books where I have multiple copies are books that I believe are important to read, and want to loan to people. Those have a suspicious habit of not always making their way back to me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (0U5gm)
MP4 I have been meaning to ask you- have you started to feel better about the issue you posted before, about your friend & protege getting sudden success?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 10:03 AM (tcsrY)
Yes, I have. I've accepted that she's spent a great deal of money (which I do not have) to get what she has and that she is also more active and pushy for her career than I am.
I do wish her the best.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:08 AM (ufSfZ)
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Ah, here's the Book Thread! The world is back on its axis.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025 10:08 AM (p/isN)
Hundreds of residents of a Michigan community formed a human chain to help a local bookshop move each of its 9,100 books, one by one, to a new storefront located about a block away
X video: https://bit.ly/4qaj521
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:09 AM (P5BPp)
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I'm going to admit it...I used to make and wear pants like that in the '80s. They sure were comfy.
Last week I finished Anthony Horowitz's The House of Silk, a Sherlock Holmes pastiche. It differs from a lot of Holmes staories, including Doyle's, in that Holmes actually has a serious personal crisis -- he's framed for a murder and sent to prison! He escapes in a method that Harry Houdini (who knew Doyle) might have admired. Plus there is a secondary mystery allied with the main one that Holmes solves in a very neat and well-clued fashion.
I've also read one of AH's Daniel Hawthorne mysteries, one of the series where he puts himself in as not only author but participant, blurring the line between fiction and reality. Not bad, but Hawthorne is kind of a cipher -- which Horowitz is at pains to mention, and complain about.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
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The only books where I have multiple copies are books that I believe are important to read, and want to loan to people. Those have a suspicious habit of not always making their way back to me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (0U5gm)
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I long ago made it policy to buy any copy of Bored of the Rings that I came across. I already had one, but wanted other to read it and - completely predictably - this one never comes back. I have one copy at present that is not allowed to leave the house.
Posted by: dantesed at December 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Oy/m2)
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I'm finally getting around to reading moron Daniel Humphries, Paxton Locke series. I'm on book 3 of 7. It's good escapism reading. Reminds me of Larry Correia's MHI world. Would recommend.
I'm also listening to Larry Correia's Son of the Black sword.
Not a lot of reading to report -- looked over one called So We Read On, M. Corrigan's book about Gatsby.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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I came across this in my readings. This is not a commentary on Islam, but about the nomad Bedouins. Anyway, it sounds like they have been adept at basic first aid for centuries:
"There is also many a bold spirit among the Aarab (Bedouins), of men and women, that being hurt, snatching a brand from the hearth, will sear his wounded flesh, till the fire be quenched in the suffering fibre : and they can endure pain (necessitous persons, whose livelihood is as a long punishment,) with constant fortitude."
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 10:13 AM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:14 AM (DXbAa)
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Currently I have shifted to some nonfiction. Larry McMurtry: A Life by Tracy Daugherty, a novelist himself, focuses on the life and work of the author of Lonesome Dove. While I'm not a *big* fan of McMurtry, I love many of his characters such as Gus and Capt. Call, and I'm curious about the events that shaped him and his work. I'm especially looking forward to his adventures in Hollywood.
The other nonfiction on my TBR pile is C.S. Lewis: A Life by one Alister McGrath. I know more about Lewis's works than I do about his life, and I don't know his works that well. Time to rectify that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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I will admit that I have double copies of some Matt Helm books because I'm collecting the painted covers. However, not all of the books have those covers, so I've accumulated the original covers in order to have the series looking as uniform as possible.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025 10:15 AM (p/isN)
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So, this past week was another where I went to the used book store to help with my depression. I picked up A Village In The Third Reich by Julia Boyd, author of Travelers In The Third Reich. This latter book looks at the Bavarian village of Obserstdorf and how it dealt with the rise and fall of Hitler.
I also bought Daniel Swift's The Dream Factory: London's First Playhouse and the Making of William Shakespeare, which would be a perfect read for this snowy day if I didn't have writing to do myself.
I'm still depressed, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:15 AM (ufSfZ)
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While Winston Churchill did many notable things in his life, among them being part of the last ever British cavalry charge, one event in his youth stood out: being a prisoner of war and escaping from the Boers. Celia Sandys uses the diaries of her grandfather as well as South African accounts to retell the story in Churchill: Wanted Dead or Alive.
In November 1899, while attached as a member of the press, Churchill was on a troop train that was attacked by the Boers and derailed. Under fire, Churchill raced to the engine to see what could be done, and tried to rally the men, but was captured. After a few weeks of captivity, he chose to make a break for it over the wall; two fellow prisoners failed to make it. Wanted posters were put up and rangers searched for him, but to no avail. After holing up in a mine in the region, he snuck into a freight car on a train headed to Durban and made good his escape.
Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (0U5gm)
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Read Return of the Jedi in 4th grade. I have that book somewhere here.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (LjSYW)
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I keep a journal as I read now. If work gets me too busy to do anything and it's weeks before I get back into a book then that helps me catch up. Also I'm using it to practice my cursive. And I include little drawings and stuff in it. I read and then before I go to bed I do the journal.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (3uBP9)
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Yay! Book Thread lives! I'm enjoying my re-read of The Hobbit, picking up more subtle humor as I go.
I should mention that we have many, many copies of Tolkien's work and the primary reason is that my father early on learned that I loved his stuff, and so for the longest time, that was his go-to present for me. Still is! He has a search on Amazon, and if a new edition or book comes up, it arrives in the mail.
We have six copies of LotR: the 1960s boxed paperback with the iconic map on the sides; a cloth-bound hardcover boxed set from the 1980s that was billed as the most accurate when it came out (heavily used), a single-volume leather and gilt edition in decorative box, single-volume paperback, 80s era boxed pocket paperback set found in my father's basement that he forgot about, 1990s three-volume version just because.
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After burning through two fantasy novels in recent weeks, I fell back into comics. Fantasy comics; "DemonWars: Trial By Fire" and "DemonWars: Eye for an Eye." Two short mini-series from the early 00's. They are prequels/side-stories to R.A. Salvatore's DemonWars novels. They star a ranger (who looks like a standard barbarian) who hunts 'demons' of various types.
The second series (Eye for an Eye) is significantly better than the first. It has a much better artist. Also, there are two writers listed (R.A. Salvatore and Scott Giencin) so I assume that Salvatore (a novelist) came up with the outline, and let Giencin turn the idea into a comic book script. The first series didn't flow well, like some story elements didn't survive the transition, while the second series felt much more like a made-for-the-comic story.
The stories were fun enough. Alas, there are no further comics. Maybe I'll pick up the novels sometime.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (Lhaco)
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Also on TBR pile: one of Robert Parker's Sunny Randall mysteries, Melancholy Baby; and the second of Anthony Horowitz's "autobiographical" adventures with detective Daniel Hawthorne, The Word Is Murder. The latter is mentioned various times in AH's The Twist of a Knife, the one I just finished.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (wzUl9)
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It looks as if I'll wrap up this year with Bond.
Wrap. Bond. That's a joke, folks!
*ahem*
I've begun the second of the five stories in "For Your Eyes Only," and again it shows the pitfalls of being contemporary, as Bond remarks that Castro may topple Batista soon.
I've been remiss in my reading this past week, because after a day of reading at work, I devote time to the news stories I had to pass, and there is also the lure of TV (YouTube) and DVDs. Then count the time devoted to chores, church, and celebrations. That includes Christmas shopping. Things should settle after New Year's Day.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (p/isN)
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (pd4dZ)
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“The "NPC" meme got started for a reason--because a certain subgroup of humanity began acting in lockstep with each other, changing their positions and views according to the whims of their leaders.”
I don’t think that’s anything new; in fact it reminds me of my favorite quote from the opening to what I think is one of the most insightful books ever written, “Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds” by Mackay. It’s amazing to read it and see that it was written in 1841, because it could have been written yesterday with just a couple of extra chapters.
“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:18 AM (k5cxK)
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We have two trade paperback versions of The Hobbit, a hardcover illustrated version and the annotated edition.
Four copies of The Silmarillion: trade paperback beaten to hell with misprinted cover, upscale 90s paperback, worn clothbound hardcover, and presentation leather boxed edition.
At one point, I decided to collect every US printing of the works of Harlan Ellison and Fritz Leiber.
Was damned close too. Could have counted the missing items on my fingers and toes, and had a few toes left over.
I was priced out of that when the specialty presses started doing limited slipcased volumes, and HE's Stalking the Nightmare came out with a printing of 26 copies in a carved wooden box as well as trade and signed slipcased. Gave up on completing the collections then, and sold most of 'em off so I wouldn't be tempted to do that again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:19 AM (q3u5l)
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A book I picked up from the library yesterday is Twelve Churches: An Unlikely History of the Buildings That Made Christianity by the Anglican priest Fergus Butler-Gallie. It's a look at various churches and how they shaped our views of Christ as well as His teachings. It highlights the Church of the Nativity, Hagia Sophia, Canterbury and so on.
There is a chapter on the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. This being a 2025 book as well as written by an Anglican, I am girding my loins and expecting some TDS screed. We shall see.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:20 AM (ufSfZ)
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“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:18 AM (k5cxK)
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A couple of lighter novels also dealt with Nazis and the occult - Kathryn Kurtz had one, focusing on an English occult group defending against a Nazi invasion. Can't recall the title, but it was pretty dark, and involved a willing sacrifice. And Barbara Hambly had one also - The Magicians of Night.
My own reading this week - plowing through Farmer's "The Other Log of Phineas Fogg" which was mentioned a couple of book threads ago. Not that impressed - a lot of tedious narration, not much description or dialog; flat and not engaging. Richard Peck's "A Long Way From Chicago" (also mentioned here) was much more enjoyable.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 14, 2025 10:21 AM (Ew3fm)
40Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
He was also nearly run over by a NYC taxi in the 1920s.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:22 AM (ufSfZ)
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My youngest is re-reading Lord of the Rings, and went from a fan of the Peter Jackson movies to a bitter critic of them.
Welcome to the club! I have to say that at this late date, I prefer Bakshi's flawed fragment because at least I don't have to watch elves shield-surfing their way through Helm's Deep.
The strengths of Jackson's film are its visuals, particularly sets, costumes, cast and music (though Bakshi's has some good stuff there). But the plot - taken as a plot - is incoherent. It doesn't just fail as an adaptation, it fails as a film.
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When I buy a book I've been looking for, such as the Popular Library edition of Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House, I like to try for one with the same cover as I knew before. My current copy of THoHH is falling apart -- I've had it since high school, "during the Punic Wars" -- but copies of that movie tie-in edition on AbeBooks are kind of $$.
If I replace any of my James Bond Signet paperbacks, I know I want the ones issued ca. the time of the first film, with "IAN FLEMING" in huge letters, "A James Bond Thriller" vertically down the right edge, and a small color painting above the title and below Fleming's name. Usually the image was of the girl in the adventure, but not always. Bond is shown on the cover of Casino Royale and Mr. Big on Live and Let Die, for instance.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:23 AM (wzUl9)
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Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (0U5gm)
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From what I've read, Hitler himself was your basic secular unbeliever raised Catholic. But Himmler apparently never met a crazy idea he didn't like, and he was the main patron and advocate for all the "Occult Nazi" crap.
Lefties don't like to mention it, but there was a pretty strong strain of "alternative spirituality" going on in Germany even before WWI, and with the collapse of faith in society and religion after 1918, a lot of occult weirdness came bubbling up. (Not to mention the boom in Spiritualists claiming to speak with the dead, always a big business after a war.) And it's always been true that people who are into "alternative spirituality" are more likely to be into "alternative political systems" too. Like Mr. Himmler. Some of the early Bolsheviks were also advocates of a Tsarist-era woo movement called Cosmicism. And of course modern American progressives are insatiable consumers of astrology, psychic readings, wicca, and any amount of bogus Asian woo.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:24 AM (78a2H)
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I recently purchased a short comic-book-run off of ebay, and the seller gave me a freebie to go with my order; "The Best of 2000 AD," from May of 2022. While I know you can't put much story in a single anthology comic...if this is what they consider their 'best' I will not be reading anything from 2000 AD in the foreeable future.
The book lead with a Judge Dredd story, then there was a Torquemada the Chief Terminator story, a few other random shorts...I think I'm supposed to say the stories are 'satire,' or maybe 'parody,' but I can't. The stories read like mean-spirited mockery. Stupid people being stupid in a stupid setting. The stories ranged from 'bad' to 'couldn't hold my attention past the first page.'
I'm glad I didn't pay anything for this, because it's probably ending up in the recycling bin.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:25 AM (Lhaco)
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Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
He was also nearly run over by a NYC taxi in the 1920s.
Posted by: Mary Poppins'
When he was a boy, he was playing with friends a game like 'tag'. He found himself on a high foot bridge, with his opponents on either side. To avoid capture, he jumped from the bridge, aiming for a tree. Ended up with a broken collarbone. There are so many what ifs in his life, it is amazing he lasted until age 65, when his destiny was revealed while Dunkirk was under siege.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (0U5gm)
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As far as my own writing is concerned, I think the release of my new Theda Bara novel is going to be long delayed. While I did finish and type up the first draft, it's really unsatisfactory and I'm not sure how to develop things. As well, the added research I need to do to get details right is, in this case, so paralyzing that it's kept me from putting pen to paper for weeks.
I discussed this with my muse, who suggested an - at first glance - radical restructuring. I've been giving it some thought and sketched out a few ideas. The problem is that I just don't have the energy or will to write (which is why I am an amateur and hack and not a pro). There's something deep inside really holding me back, but I can't put my finger on it. I can identify surface disappointments, but the central dissatisfaction remains untouched.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (ufSfZ)
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I'm reading Many Dimensions by Charles Williams and at the same time going through a bunch of Wodehouse, some new some old that I enjoyed reading again. Wodehouse is like a comfort food in that I can reread his short stories quickly, in one setting, and come out of it feeling great living in his funny world.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (3uBP9)
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Perfessor, I had to go to the store earlier, so I'm wearing pants for the Book Thread (for a change).
Honestly, it cramps my style.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:27 AM (kpS4V)
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Why the film version featured a uk decoding device and a vengeful greek woman
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 10:28 AM (bXbFr)
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From what I've read, Hitler himself was your basic secular unbeliever raised Catholic. But Himmler apparently never met a crazy idea he didn't like, and he was the main patron and advocate for all the "Occult Nazi" crap.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:24 AM (78a2H)
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He was a cultural Catholic because he was born in Austria. No real tie to the faith. If he'd been born in Bremen he'd have been Lutheran. Germany was in a nationalist ferment due to unification and there was a desire to separate its faith from all the others, hence the Kulturkampf against Catholics as well as German theologians declaring that Lutheranism was the highest form of faith. (They're the ones who cooked up the bogus 'evolution' from animism to paganism, to monotheism, etc.)
As Christianity was deconstructed, neopaganism came back in a big way and Wagner was emblematic of this.
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It's sometimes fun to see book-haul videos, but those are not replicatable in my own life. I have neither the budget nor the shelf-space to make multiple large additions to the library. When I do make additions, they need to be spaced out, to prolong the joy-of-acquisition. To say nothing of the time it takes to actually read through the new pile.
I'm also fond of library-tour-videos, again, because it's something I can't have myself, and it's fun to live vicariously through others. I watch setting-up-aquarium videos for the same reason. Which reminds me, I need to block out some time for the latest 'Tanks For Nothing' video...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:29 AM (Lhaco)
53 I've begun the second of the five stories in "For Your Eyes Only," and again it shows the pitfalls of being contemporary, as Bond remarks that Castro may topple Batista soon. . . .
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025
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Fleming tried to be contemporary in his background details. He just didn't let them get in the way of a good story. SMERSH, for instance, really existed; but it was a kill squad for Soviet traitors, I think, not a spy agency that operated outside the Soviet Union. And in any case it had been disbanded (or renamed into the NKVD or KGB or whatever) before Fleming started the series. The name, SMERSH, was just too good to pass up.
Mentioning Castro and Batista, like using real brand names and places, grounded the high-flying Bond stories and allowed you to believe in his adventures.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:29 AM (wzUl9)
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I have a couple of editions of some Lovecraft books -- my beloved old crappy paperbacks that I can't bring myself to get rid of, and some newer spiffy editions, some with scholarly notes, and a couple of the amazing illustrated versions by Francois Baranger.
And I think I've got three or four different translations of Beowulf.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:30 AM (78a2H)
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"Honest book titles " was a funny video. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 10:30 AM (ix8EF)
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51 From what I've read, Hitler himself was your basic secular unbeliever raised Catholic. But Himmler apparently never met a crazy idea he didn't like, and he was the main patron and advocate for all the "Occult Nazi" crap.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:24 AM (78a2H)
I remember hearing somewhat underground stories about Nazis and the Occult in the 70’s, long before Spielberg or Marvel picked up on them and popularized the idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (k5cxK)
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>>Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 14, 2025 10:21 AM (Ew3fm)
Sgt. Mom, the Kurtz book was Lammas Night.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (NcvvS)
58Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:27 AM (kpS4V)
Eris, did you get the gift I sent you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (ufSfZ)
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If I have multiple copies of a book, it's usually by accident. Which is a problem of its own--if I buy a book, not knowing I already have it, I'm not reading what's on my shelves, am I?
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"...I myself have two copies of Lord of the Rings, as well as a few extra copies of select books..."
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Piker! I have four versions of The Hobbit alone!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (kpS4V)
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I remember hearing somewhat underground stories about Nazis and the Occult in the 70’s, long before Spielberg or Marvel picked up on them and popularized the idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (k5cxK)
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It's a fascinating topic. The British had their own version of this with the new Druids running around and of course Boadicea was strongly identified with Queen Victoria as a symbol of "true Britain," before the Romans came.
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16 Last week I finished Anthony Horowitz's The House of Silk, a Sherlock Holmes pastiche. It differs from a lot of Holmes staories, including Doyle's, in that Holmes actually has a serious personal crisis -- he's framed for a murder and sent to prison! He escapes in a method that Harry Houdini (who knew Doyle) might have admired. Plus there is a secondary mystery allied with the main one that Holmes solves in a very neat and well-clued fashion.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
I had not heard (or perhaps just no remembered) that Doyle actually knew Houdini. That does add some context to a story I read where a Holmes-knock-off actually studied Houdini-style escape techniques/performances...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:33 AM (Lhaco)
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"...I myself have two copies of Lord of the Rings, as well as a few extra copies of select books..."
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Piker! I have four versions of The Hobbit alone!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (kpS4V)
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I admit I could use a much better copy of The Hobbit. My only copy is an ancient paperback that's somewhat falling apart.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Kt19C)
66You do need to have the desire to pick up a pen and start writing, though. You also need to be a voracious READER.
Definitely so. They say you are what you eat; I think, more importantly, you are, to some extent, what you read. Reading widely gives you so much knowledge and context for forming your ideas and expressing yourself.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (2L+MU)
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" Who needs several drawers of annotation supplies? Do people really annotate each and every page of each and every book they read? "
I don't write in my books. If I want annotation, I will put it on a separate piece of paper and put it back by the glossary.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (0U5gm)
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As I said, there was an occult strain in the Notzee party, baked in from the start. The party itself was established as a political wing by members of the Thule Society, an "occult study group" that met in Munich, run by a grifter named "Baron Seebottendorf." (The Baron, no fool, didn't stay in Germany when the Party took over and spent the war in Istanbul, drawing pay as an intelligence agent but not doing much. He killed himself when Berlin fell in 1945, or possibly was assisted in doing so).
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:36 AM (78a2H)
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Of course the news peg is subordjnate to ghe main story
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 10:36 AM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Kt19C)
*comes running into the thread*
Did anyone mention shelves?
Posted by: Ace's Doppelganger at December 14, 2025 10:37 AM (iJfKG)
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Yep - that was the book. I have it on the shelves somewhere in the hall. I believe that there was a lot floating around early on (60s, 70s) about the Nazi obsession with matters occult, before Indiana Jones movies brought it to wider awareness.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Ew3fm)
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Brian Regan did a hilarious stand-up routine about his OCD and how it affects his shelf-organization of books.
https://tinyurl.com/43pzfjcy
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 10:39 AM (2L+MU)
74I had not heard (or perhaps just no remembered) that Doyle actually knew Houdini. That does add some context to a story I read where a Holmes-knock-off actually studied Houdini-style escape techniques/performances...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025
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Houdini wrangled with Doyle about the issue of spiritualism. Doyle had come to believe in ghosts, life after death, and the existence of creatures like fairies, while Houdini spotted the spiritualists' stage tricks and did not believe.
Doyle lived until 1930, while Houdini died only four years earlier. We think of Doyle as nineteenth-century, and HH as twentieth, but they were both born in the 1800s and died during the first third of the 1900s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:39 AM (wzUl9)
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Nazis: tree huggers, occult followers, faggots in leadership, avowed socialists. But right wingers.
Got it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2025 10:40 AM (LjSYW)
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Reading develops your vocabulary and allows you to see what's possible in storytelling. Then you can start crafting your own unique voice and style, synthesizing it from all of the authors you have read in the past.
My question about that is does reading in the past help if you read less now because of whatever reason? Like bad eyesight, lack of interest in most stuff out? I don't read as much as I used to, so does that effect my writing?
I get some feedback here and there, but I wonder if I need to read more to get better at writing.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 10:40 AM (uQesX)
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As to Doyle and Houdini, they were friends at first, but basically as Doyle slid more and more into Spiritualism while Houdini got more active in debunking it, their disagreement became a breach. The two main points of conflict were when Doyle's wife took down messages from Houdini's late mother via "automatic writing," which were full of errors and were _written in English_, a language Erich Weiss's mom never mastered. Doyle suggested that maybe she learned it in the afterlife. The other was when Houdini showed how to do the "miraculous feats" of spiritualist grifters via stage magic, and Doyle suggested that maybe Houdini was unconsciously using spirit aid himself.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (78a2H)
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I finished Untrue Till Death, the second of the Master Mercurius series, by Graham Brach. Master Mercurius, undercover Catholic priest and also a Protestant minister in 17th century Reformation Holland is drafted by William of Orange to investigate the murder of one of his undercover agents snooping out a conspiracy against him in the Leiden University where Mercurius is employed as an instructor in philosophy. Like the first book, Death In Delft, this is an interesting and well written historical fiction mystery that rings of authenticity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (L/fGl)
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Reading snacks - Younger will use chopsticks to eat chips while browsing her phone or reading
Elder & I are messy
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (gDlxJ)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Phew! The book thread is up. I was starting withdrawal symptoms.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (yTvNw)
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I think people are fascinated by Nazis and the occult because...what if it worked?!
NONSTOP PERVITIN-BUZZED SAXON SEX! in Wewelsburg ushering in the old gods.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (kpS4V)
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Houdini gave his wife a secret password so she could determine frauds when trying to contact him if he died first.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (KDPiq)
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I have two copies of LOTR, a rather ordinary 70’s paperback version, plus my original set, the 1965 2nd Edition boxed set, black hardcover with the gorgeous yellow, red, and purple rings embossed on the respective covers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (k5cxK)
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Houdini would have made a good detective himself. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a novel or short stories with him solving a murder or two, possibly "impossible" or "locked room" ones.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
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Magic-using National Socialists also makes for great pulp and superhero action stories. Meanwhile the Japanese Army gets ninjas and the IJN has Godzilla.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
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Didn’t read anything this week but I did get my laundry squared away. Very proud of that.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (u83p8)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (Ia/+0)
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Lot of Jew hating former Marxists in the Nazis. Goebbels was one of them.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (KDPiq)
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I have a book somewhere on how the Nazis spent quite a bit of time and money searching for the 'secrets' of the original Aryans.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (0U5gm)
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>>My question about that is does reading in the past help if you read less now because of whatever reason?
Wondered about that. Not a writer, but thought that with retirement there would be more reading time. It's actually been less because a) lot of time spent here and b) not reading in the evenings as much because sleep happens quickly.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (NcvvS)
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Far and away my favorite non Conan Doyle Holmes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (L/fGl)
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Houdini actually wrote and starred in a couple of silent movies in which he played a detective (Secret Service agent, I think) solving crimes. He got tied up a lot, of course.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (78a2H)
He used to host a live radio show on lefty KPFK, "hour 25".
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:46 AM (Kt19C)
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OT Brown U:; Once again media and authorities deliberately become stammering idiots when talking about the latest mass shooting, because the facts don’t fit their oppression narrative.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 14, 2025 10:46 AM (jYRYu)
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OT Brown U:; Once again media and authorities deliberately become stammering idiots when talking about the latest mass shooting, because the facts don’t fit their oppression narrative.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 14, 2025 10:46 AM (jYRYu)
Did they identify the shooter yet?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:47 AM (KDPiq)
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Houdini would have made a good detective himself. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a novel or short stories with him solving a murder or two, possibly "impossible" or "locked room" ones.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
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Houdini and HP Lovecraft collaborated on a few short stories. "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs" the the most famous. Features Houdini being trapped deep under a pyramid where he encounters the being that inspired the Sphinx.
97Houdini gave his wife a secret password so she could determine frauds when trying to contact him if he died first.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025
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There was a rather well-done TV-movie in the '70s, I think, with Paul Michael Glaser (Starsky and Hutch) in the title role. Since then I've always pictured HH as looking like him. I think the password business was mentioned in it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:47 AM (wzUl9)
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83 I have two copies of LOTR, a rather ordinary 70’s paperback version, plus my original set, the 1965 2nd Edition boxed set, black hardcover with the gorgeous yellow, red, and purple rings embossed on the respective covers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM
I picked up a(nother) paperback set at Half-Price books awhile back.
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:48 AM (DXbAa)
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This week's Kindle read was the series "Fred the Vampire Accountant" by Drew Hayes. It's the engaging tale of Fred, a very mild-mannered accountant, who stumbles into a wild paranormal world when he is turned into a vampire.
There are nine short novels in the series and I'm working on the final one, hoping the arch-villain will finally get his comeuppance.
Minimal gore (it's an adventure, not horror, story) and sex, while mentioned, is not graphically described.
It's definitely worth your while.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (0vB2I)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:47 AM (wzUl9)
I think Glaser resembled him a lot more than Tony Curtis.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (KDPiq)
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Started my traditional Christmas books. This week was The Christmas Cantata, one of the Liturgical Mysteries series by Mark Schweizer. An older friend, now gone, got me a signed hardcover edition as a gift. I was already a fan of the series. This one is a mystery but not a murder mystery. It is heartbreakingly poignant at times, includes his trademark humor, and is a story of redemption and acceptance. I fell in love with it on that first reading years ago and look forward to it every season.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (yTvNw)
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Nazis: tree huggers, occult followers, faggots in leadership, avowed socialists. But right wingers.
Got it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner
And, like today, all justified by the science they believed in.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, have you ever had a ‘tame’ cat?
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:14 AM (DXbAa)
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No. Not one. They've all been semi-wild savages who purr and cut cute capers around the house to lull me into submission.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (kpS4V)
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At the moment there are very few duplicate copies on my shelves; there used to be more, especially during the Ellison-Leiber collecting years. Toss in the Kindle library and assorted PDFs and I've probably duplicated almost everything that remains of my physical book collection; if I saved the hard drive in a house fire, I'd probably lose no more than a dozen titles.
Always liked having duplicates -- somehow I was certain that I'd take a book with me somewhere and it would get mangled (seldom happened, but...). Couldn't hurt to have two.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (q3u5l)
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I read Shroud by Adrian Tchaikovsky. I've read a lot of science fiction and I don't know how I missed this author. Shroud is a high-gravity, high-pressure, zero-oxygen moon. It is pitch black, but alive with radio activity. Due to an accident, Juna and Mai are forced to make an emergency landing there in their small, barely adequate vehicle. Unable to contact their ship, they are force to journey across land, sea, and air. Chapters alternate between the human viewpoint and the viewpoint of Shroud's dominate species as they try to understand each other. Fascinating story, interesting characters.
Posted by: Zoltan at December 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VOrDg)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:51 AM (kpS4V)
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I’ve been reading more non-fiction lately. A number of biographies and autobiographies mostly.
Re-read Secret Language of Color also which discusses the science of color, where it occurs in nature and the general aesthetics of color. Very interesting.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (KDPiq)
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The 'these pants' selection is one of the most awkward looking items of clothing I've seen. MC Hammer has a lot to apologize for. And those shoes look they came from Bozo the Clown. They do have the benefit of pushing me back to the thread faster.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 10:53 AM (yTvNw)
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Houdini would have made a good detective himself. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a novel or short stories with him solving a murder or two, possibly "impossible" or "locked room" ones.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
He made Haldane of the Secret Service, The Master Mystery and Terror Island in 1919 and 1920, all showing him as an investigator. The films were only partly successful, because for audiences, Houdini's 'escapes' were not suspenseful. If he was trying to get out of the Chinese Water Torture box on stage, for example, there was always the possibility he would fail. Trapped in the same box on film, there was no way to know that they didn't just stop the camera, release Houdini and then crank it up again.
Houdini's surviving films were released on DVD by Kino Lorber in 2008.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:53 AM (ufSfZ)
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I finally finished "Rules of the Game" re: Jutland and the British Navy. My daughter has been reading "Frankenstein" for her lit class, so I decided to pick up my own copy. I've never read it myself. We watched the recent Netflix version before she started reading the original, and now she hates the Netflix version because of all the changes Guillermo del Toro made.
Maybe I'll give her a copy of whichever MHI book is built around Agent Franks; I can't recall the title right now.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 10:54 AM (Epuwl)
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AoSHq is 95% of my 'social media', so I'm not going to get sucked into that kind of Performance Art. My problem is that books are available so cheap that I'm always tempted when I see something interesting. (My interests are also too broad) A not entirely successful solution is using the library.
Just in the last month thanks to Library/Libby audio:
Good/great:
Path Between the Seas (DMC) about Panama Canal
Wooden by JW
MAGA Doctrine - Charlie Kirk
How to Test Negative for Stupid - John Kennedy
Winston's War - Max Hastings.
OK - Better without any politics:
Philospher in the Vallley - about Alex Karp, founder of Palantir. I knew nothing about topic, 75% of book is good, author M Steinberger is leftist idiot.
100 Rules for 100 - Dick Van Dyke - I can stand listening to a Bernie Bro if crap not pushed in my face, this was good.
Definitely not recommending:
Ed Begley Jr- made it through the book, thought about it too much after. This guy is an arrogant ass.
The Martians - D Baron about Percival Lowell & reporting on Mars from a century ago. Way too much current politics shoved into this book. Could have been good.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at December 14, 2025 10:54 AM (KaHlS)
You're not the only one. I don't usually comment much on news threads -- I tend to have bloodthirsty thoughts on reading the stories and I don't usually care to express them.
Book thread is my primary, almost only, online interaction time.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:55 AM (q3u5l)
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85 Magic-using National Socialists also makes for great pulp and superhero action stories. Meanwhile the Japanese Army gets ninjas and the IJN has Godzilla.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
I've actually become quite jaded about nazis in pulp stories. Purely because it's been overdone. Too many writers use them, too few use other equally valid villains....and too many modern people mis-use the term and apply it to everyone they don't like.
Also, they had a relatively short reign. Not long nearly long enough to pull off the crazy feats that is required of pulp-story-villains. I read one story where they created some master-race-super-soldiers via a selective breeding program, and all I could think of how the most that program could have actually produced was a couple of nine-year-olds...
Now, if the bolsheviks had started a selective breeding program for humans....Well, they actually had the time to run that program through a few generations! But, alas, if you consider the bolsheviks to be bad, you're probably not allowed to be a mainstream writer...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:56 AM (Lhaco)
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I received some old books from the widow of a good friend, some of which were old copies of mine that were lent back when we were all in College together. As Roger Zelazney joked, "Nobody steals your books but your friends." With those old paperbacks to start with, I have been replacing some Old Friends (beloved books from the past...) with the editions that I first read as a wee pup. I started with the Zelazney 'Amber' books in their first Avon printing, with the black and white lettering, then the rest of his works from those editions. Then the DAW editions of Moorcock's works (Yeah, not nearly as interesting at 60 as they were at 15...), Julian May's 'Many-Colored Land' books with the Whelan cover art, Stephen R. Donaldson's 'Thomas Covenant' books from the original paperback printings by Del Rey, etc. I then constructed a bookshelf so that they all fit together in one place. It's quite lovely, and, as ever, a Work in Progress. I believe my old pal would have enjoyed seeing it.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at December 14, 2025 10:56 AM (2A6DC)
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Also read Tesla vs Edison . It was like reading a better version of Wikipedia. I liked it.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (KDPiq)
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Far and away my favorite non Conan Doyle Holmes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (L/fGl)
The English writer June Thompson wrote a number of Holmes pastiches, each one of the 'unreleased' cases that Watson described - the Giant Rat of Sumatra, or the adventure of The Amateur Mendicants, &c. Her characters are not really true to the Doyle canon - her Watson is particularly irritating, more Nigel Bruce than Edward Hardwicke - but her plots are very clever.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (ufSfZ)
118Eris, have you ever had a ‘tame’ cat?
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:14 AM (DXbAa)
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No. Not one. They've all been semi-wild savages who purr and cut cute capers around the house to lull me into submission.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025
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Marie-Antoinette the Queen of All Cats came close to "tame." Sure, she caused trouble; she broke a mirror (imagine a black cat breaking a mirror!), knocked my watch to the (fortunately carpeted) floor, and other things. But she loved human attention and was always either sitting or sleeping with us, and was good-natured and adaptable to an extreme.
Of course, she passed on almost twenty years ago now, so my memory may be hazy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (wzUl9)
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Still reading my biography of Grant. So many men he fought with during the Mexican War would be on the opposite side later. James Longstreet served as best man to Ulysses when he finally married Julia; he and Grant's two groomsmen joined the Confederacy and would surrender to Grant at Appomattox.
He seemed to be universally considered by his contemporaries to be of a gentle and thoughtful temperament and highly moral, and a terrific horseman. He loved animals and hated cruelty toward them.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (kpS4V)
Oh, dear. Amazon said it was delivered. Are you still at the Rochester Hills address?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (ufSfZ)
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I have a couple of signed "First editions" of the same book: I am into mysteries, so if an English author i liked published something, I'd try to get the first edition published in England and then the first edition published in the US. For Batya Gur, an israeli author, I got the Hebrew first edition, the first edition of the English translation in the US, and the first edition French translation.
I'm old now, no one wants them in my family, so I'm trying to sell them. No one wants to buy them either. I thought even morbid people would want some of my signed first edition Anne Perry. Nope.
Posted by: Lee Also at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (IrqeV)
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I want to finish Blucher Scourge of Napoleon today as I want to reread The First Russian Revolution the Decembrest Revolt of 1825 because the 200th anniversary is Dec 14 ( old style calendar 12 days behind so actually happened Dec 26 1825
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Guy who says "ahoy bookfagz" at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (TbWk/)
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I raised my cats ( kittens) like dogs. They didn’t turn out exactly like dogs but did pick up a lot of their good traits.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (KDPiq)
125The Martians - D Baron about Percival Lowell & reporting on Mars from a century ago. Way too much current politics shoved into this book. Could have been good.
I read that and agree. Glad I got it from the library and didn't buy it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ufSfZ)
126
40 minute video on the substance abuse of 25 top Nazis.
https://is.gd/JljfaQ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (L/fGl)
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I look forward to watching it.
Back when it was The Hitler Channel, History Channel showed a program called "High Hitler". 😆
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (kpS4V)
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Stopping by briefly as I am consumed by the news of the day but saw you had a Lee Child post.
I just finished his latest with his brother and it is really mediocre. Doesn't have any of the punch of his earlier books. Reacher ks now a killing machine instead of a man of Justice. Multiple unrelated events eventually come together in a completely unrealistic way. This story doesn't relate at all to his military background. Pretty disappointing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:02 AM (kpS4V)
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He seemed to be universally considered by his contemporaries to be of a gentle and thoughtful temperament and highly moral, and a terrific horseman. He loved animals and hated cruelty toward them.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (kpS4V)
I’ve thought a highly significant quote from Grant was when he said that he much preferred the company of horses and dogs to that of men.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:02 AM (k5cxK)
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So I finished Barnaby Rudge. I'm not terribly happy with how Barnaby managed to do a karma Houdini and avoid being hanged. The guy wasn't just guilty of rioting, he was in the forefront, knocking people off horses. Yes, he was a retard but why he gets pardoned when children were hung really irritated me. The other happy ending stuff is classic Dickens and that doesn't bother me. But Barnaby and his dumb ass mother's fate irritated me.
I'm back to Glen Cook's Black Company next and....Man...Glen Cook is my kind of writer.
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This week I finished the biography of Louis Armstrong and started The Satanic Verses. I’m only on Chapter 2 of The Satanic Verses but it looks like it will be a fantastic read.
Posted by: Who Knew at December 14, 2025 11:04 AM (TdNm+)
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He seemed to be universally considered by his contemporaries to be of a gentle and thoughtful temperament and highly moral……
One of the reasons crooked , devious men in his administration were able to take advantage of him.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:04 AM (KDPiq)
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If you want a docile cat, get a Ragdoll. We've had one for about 10 years, and about the only time she moves is when the food dish gets refilled. I much prefer a laid-back cat who tolerates being handled over the spastic, randomly scratchy and bitey variety.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 11:04 AM (Epuwl)
134Stopping by briefly as I am consumed by the news of the day but saw you had a Lee Child post.
I just finished his latest with his brother and it is really mediocre. Doesn't have any of the punch of his earlier books. Reacher ks now a killing machine instead of a man of Justice. Multiple unrelated events eventually come together in a completely unrealistic way. This story doesn't relate at all to his military background. Pretty disappointing.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025
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I've been avoiding the ones with "Andrew Child" on the cover, having seen similar remarks here and elsewhere about his productions not being as good.
The early Reacher stories are quite good. He's at his best when he's in a small town or outlying area rather than in NYC or Washington, DC. It seems he has more freedom of action.
The other problem I have with any of the Reachers, once I think about it, is that he has very little difficulty defeating hsi enemies. He rarely seems to get wounded or damaged in any way, though there are exceptions.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:05 AM (wzUl9)
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I've also been reading The Lord's Prayer by Thomas Watson, a 17th century author. I'm rather put off by two things. First, he big on predestination and the prayer is for the Elect, not you also rans. Second, there's a lot of Catholic (Papist) bashing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:05 AM (L/fGl)
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Still have a number of signed books. Fortunately my daughter is interested in the sf/horror titles, so she can inherit those (Ellison, Etchison, Grant, Ramsey Campbell, Silverberg, etc). There are a couple of Isaac Bashevis Singers here and a couple of Don Robertsons and an Irwin Shaw that I'll need to find homes for at some point, but I've still got a few years left to worry about that.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:07 AM (q3u5l)
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The Lee Child video is misleading. Having run a critique group for almost a decade, no...not everyone can write. Oh no, no, no.
But you do not need a degree. You just need to read a lot of the genre you want to write and then you need to be willing to do the work....and you need the introspection to know if your work is up to the mark in quality.
Also I have 19 bookcases and would kill to have the kind of flashing libraries seen above. I just never had the time and money to hire carpenters to install floor to ceiling bookcases, so I just grab Ikea cases whenever someone has a garage sale. Still....19 is a pretty good number of full bookcases.
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35 I've also been reading The Lord's Prayer by Thomas Watson, a 17th century author. I'm rather put off by two things. First, he big on predestination and the prayer is for the Elect, not you also rans. Second, there's a lot of Catholic (Papist) bashing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:05 AM (L/fGl)
There were a couple of centuries where Protestants and Catholics were at war. More political than religious.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:08 AM (KDPiq)
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122 I want to finish Blucher Scourge of Napoleon today as I want to reread The First Russian Revolution the Decembrest Revolt of 1825 because the 200th anniversary is Dec 14 ( old style calendar 12 days behind so actually happened Dec 26 1825
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (Ia/+0)
Blucher.
*neigh*
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:08 AM (g8Ew8)
140 If you want a docile cat, get a Ragdoll. We've had one for about 10 years, and about the only time she moves is when the food dish gets refilled. I much prefer a laid-back cat who tolerates being handled over the spastic, randomly scratchy and bitey variety.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025
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I love the way they look and the placid, "goes limp when picked up" reputation. I'm sure purebred kittens are not cheap, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:08 AM (wzUl9)
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A couple of weeks ago CBD (bless him) used a painting by Luis Melendez on the art thread. I hadn't heard of him before. Melendez was an 18th century Spanish still life painter. I was so impressed I ordered a used copy of his works published by the National Gallery during an American tour of his works. The book is a bit oversized to allow better photographs of the paintings. Melendez's painting are so good they are almost phot-realistic. The detail, color and composition are wonderful. I can spend an hour looking at just one painting, partly in appreciation of his talent and partly trying to figure out how he achieved the work.
I have several art books put out by galleries and museums on different artists and schools of painting. They are always worth it. Archival quality printing, tons of detail about the works, and excellent photos of the paintings. I treasure them.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (yTvNw)
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In the American patent system Tesla is credited with being the inventor of the radio rather than Marconi.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
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Can't seem to focus on one book this week; I'm all over the place.
- Grant biography
-"The Madman's Daughter", a retelling of "The Island of Dr. Moreau", and its follow-on, "Her Dark Curiosity", in which one of the bad doctor's creations comes back to London and is the basis for Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde;
- "Alien: Isolation"
- "Cat Tales"
- "The Mammoth Book of Steampunk Stories"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:11 AM (kpS4V)
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Eris, if you didn't get my gift (Amazon says it was delivered). please ask the Perfesser or CBD for my e-mail.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (ufSfZ)
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:11 AM (kpS4V)
I can’t do that with fiction but I can have a number of non-fiction books going on at the same time.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (KDPiq)
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If I didn't love my cats to much, I would have traded them to Gypsies in exchange for magic beans a long time ago. They do nothing around my house except eat my food, spit it back up, and shed their fur. Yet I wouldn't trade that for the world because they also bring me so much joy.
But now, after yesterday's incident, my cats are now helping Stradivarius string some violins.
Posted by: Fake Perfesser at December 14, 2025 11:13 AM (uQesX)
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But now, after yesterday's incident, my cats are now helping Stradivarius string some violins.
Posted by: Fake Perfesser at December 14, 2025 11:13 AM (uQesX)
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You're a lot closer to the mark than you suspect!
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I have to say my cats pften earn their keep by spotting and killing vermin. Stirling saved me from at least two wasps during his kittenhood, and both he and Dagny are on the assassin squad when a roach or a gecko gets into the apartment.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (wzUl9)
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In the American patent system Tesla is credited with being the inventor of the radio rather than Marconi.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
But the Italian radios gained in standing because the Teslas kept catching fire.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew8)
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:11 AM (kpS4V)
I can’t do that with fiction but I can have a number of non-fiction books going on at the same time.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (KDPiq)
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Yeah, I'm dual-reading a couple of books right now courtesy of Reading Roulette.
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But the Italian radios gained in standing because the Teslas kept catching fire.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Heh
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:16 AM (KDPiq)
152both he and Dagny are on the assassin squad when a roach or a gecko gets into the apartment.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (wzUl9)
Hope you like your insurance rates jacked sky-high, asshole!
Posted by: The Geico Gecko at December 14, 2025 11:16 AM (ufSfZ)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (bXbFr)
154
Perfessor, what happened with your cats yesterday?
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (A65Zh)
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I have several editions of LOTR. The hardcover three volume boxed set I bought in the mid 60s (which is showing the wear of the decades of use). That was the first hardcover book I bought for myself. I have a fancy one volume version and a flex cover edition that is my 'reading' copy. Also, a Kindle version. I've gone through a couple of paperback editions but they never last.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (yTvNw)
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Perfessor, what happened with your cats yesterday?
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (A65Zh)
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I kept finding messes they left for me. I stepped in one of them. Not fun when wearing socks.
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The whole raiders deal with belloq was an outing of the ahneberbe
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (bXbFr)
158
Lot of Jew hating former Marxists in the Nazis. Goebbels was one of them.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (KDPiq)
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And former Jew-lovers turned Jew-haters. I understand Magda Goebbels almost married a Jewish man and contemplated moving to Palestine with him. Joseph G. tried to have him assassinated to clean up Magda's dating history. I'm fuzzy on the details so dont quote me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (kpS4V)
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A few days ago my daughter and I were discussing the way you can have a brilliant idea in the middle of the night and can't remember it in the morning. Where does it go?
So we began imagining a poor little idea flitting from person to person, trying to find the right one. Silly fun.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 11:21 AM (A65Zh)
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We got our Ragdoll from a shelter, so she was pretty cheap! I think the prior owner or a family member turned out to be allergic. They're kinda dumb, and more inbred than the British royal family, but they're sweet. Just be prepared for tumbleweeds of fur.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 11:24 AM (Epuwl)
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Our cat decided some time ago that the litter box is a fine place for the initial part of business, but the finish belongs on a bathroom rug or in an almost inaccessible corner of the floor behind my desk. The bathroom door we can close, but my 76-yr-old carcass is having a hard time getting at that corner these days.
I've threatened to punt the cat to the Lesser Magellanic Cloud, but she doesn't believe me, and insists on parking her fuzzy carcass on my lap to mock me.
Goofy-assed animal...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:26 AM (q3u5l)
162I understand Magda Goebbels almost married a Jewish man and contemplated moving to Palestine with him. Joseph G. tried to have him assassinated to clean up Magda's dating history. I'm fuzzy on the details so dont quote me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (kpS4V)
That's a new one on me. I know she was married previous to Goebbels and had at least two affairs (one with a younger man never identified beyond the alias "Ernest" and another with Herbert Hoover's nephew), but didn't know about the Jewish affair.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (ufSfZ)
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I downloaded a few divergent tomes yesterday, “A long strange trip” by Dennis McNally, about the Grateful Dead, and George Patton’s autobiography, and another - Target: Patton - that posits George was murdered, an opening salvo in the open “Cold War” as it were. I’m a little skeptical about the latter, but ole Blood & Guts probably had a few enemies amongst the usual suspects and in any case certainly were not sorry to see him shuffle off this mortal coil. I think both McArthur and Patton would have been good alternatives for the utter chaos that followed in the 1950s and 1960s.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (m+uh6)
164We got our Ragdoll from a shelter, so she was pretty cheap! I think the prior owner or a family member turned out to be allergic. They're kinda dumb, and more inbred than the British royal family, but they're sweet. Just be prepared for tumbleweeds of fur.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025
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I've rarely seen a longhair in a shelter here. Though Arizona the part-Coon came from the SPCA, and I did see a beautiful silver tabby Coon-like fellow named "Rembrandt" there a few years ago. But longhairs are thin on the ground here. It was why I widened my search, and discovered Stirling (medium-hair) in Vicksburg, four hours' drive away.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (wzUl9)
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143 Can't seem to focus on one book this week; I'm all over the place.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Same.
The Autobiography of Malcolm X
Final Voyage, about 17th & 18th century whaling (Peter Nichols)
The Hero of Ages (third in the Mistoborn trilogy by Sanders)
A Coffin for Dimitrios (Eric Ambler)
Weird Cookies (Robert Griffith)
ABC News
@ABC
A new study from researcher in the U.K. suggests that polar bears are undergoing rapid genetic changes, and scientists believe it's due to the impacts of climate change.
https://is.gd/2yr5M6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, I just sent you an email, using the two addresses I have for you. Let me know if you get either one.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:32 AM (ufSfZ)
168 There's always the possibility that you have more than one copy because you just forgot you'd already bought the first. Of course, this is a far-fetched scenario.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:32 AM (tgvbd)
169 "ABC News."
Ok, I think I've found your problem.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 11:33 AM (2Ez/1)
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People seem to be fascinated by the link between the Nazis and the occult.
Suggested edit:
People seem to be fascinated by the link between our current leaders and the occult and perverted practices.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:33 AM (uQesX)
ABC News
@ABC
A new study from researcher in the U.K. suggests that polar bears are undergoing rapid genetic changes, and scientists believe it's due to the impacts of climate change.
https://is.gd/2yr5M6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
Rapid genetic changes? Evolution at ludicrous speed. The Left always makes ‘science’ fit their current positions.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:34 AM (KDPiq)
172 Or you can have one copy for the library and one for the bathroom.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:34 AM (tgvbd)
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Polar Bears will be competing with Jaguars for food soon
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:35 AM (Ia/+0)
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Wolfus, my biggest problem with this new Reacher is that it takes away everything that I liked about the character. In the early books, he is all about honor. He is former military police. His job was to keep soldiers from dishonoring the uniform. He beat up the bad guys but didn't kill them. He used his investigative training to solve the mystery, it via brute force. Everything in these later books just make me dislike him. The honorable Reacher is replaced by a vigilante.
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The problem is that I just don't have the energy or will to write (which is why I am an amateur and hack and not a pro).
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (ufSfZ)
Horse hockey. One sale qualifies you. You're a pro.
Meaning professional, maybe not pro-lific, but a professional author nonetheless. Amateur/hack is for those of us who've never been published.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (uQesX)
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So if you follow the logic of cause and effect, every mammal should be undergoing rapid genetic changes.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (KDPiq)
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Aside from LOTR, when I have multiple copies of the same book it usually involves different translations (think Canterbury Tales or the Iliad and Odyssey). Another reason would be copies of children classics with different illustrators. Wind in the Willows and Winnie the Pooh come to mind.
Since I now am willing to highlight and annotate books I'm reading I might have a 'mark up' copy to keep a better edition pristine. I have a couple of collections of poetry by Coleridge, Wordsworth and Tennyson like that.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (yTvNw)
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The right wing has always hates Jews
Globalists? Who remembers that word?
80%of American Jews vote Dem
Muslims are conservatives ant abortion anti gays anti big government super religious pro fossil fuels
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (wOztc)
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A few days ago my daughter and I were discussing the way you can have a brilliant idea in the middle of the night and can't remember it in the morning. Where does it go?
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Music is the same way, similar to dreams. I suppose people who have been formally trained in notation can write the notes down.
You can get to a nice place playing guitar when practicing for long periods, but if you don’t record it somehow, it’s gone. I can’t explain it but have heard it a few times myself. In one of his guitar lessons online, discussing this kind of thing Jorma Kaukonnen sort of shook his head and “you better write it down, because you will not remember it”.
Keith Richards recorded the iconic “Satisfaction” guitar riff on a portable Phillips cassette player at a hotel in the middle of the night, by morning he’d completely forgotten all about it. “What’s this?” as most of the tape was him snoring.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (eQfh1)
181 The Intifada was globalized in Australia yesterday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (tgvbd)
[A]uthorities have labeled the person detained as a “person of interest” and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the shooting [at Brown University]. They have not yet at this time labeled him a “suspect.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
183Wolfus, my biggest problem with this new Reacher is that it takes away everything that I liked about the character. In the early books, he is all about honor. He is former military police. His job was to keep soldiers from dishonoring the uniform. He beat up the bad guys but didn't kill them. He used his investigative training to solve the mystery, it via brute force. Everything in these later books just make me dislike him. The honorable Reacher is replaced by a vigilante.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025
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Sharon, quite true. I started with the first book, The Killing Floor, and tried for a long while to read them in order. In the earliest ones, JR *notices* things and reasons from them, then acts on those conclusions. Not so much in later novels.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (wzUl9)
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Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (eQfh1)
Yes I was going to comment a lot of song writers keep a notebook or recorder next to their bed to save those ideas that come in the middle of the night.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (KDPiq)
185 [A]uthorities have labeled the person detained as a “person of interest” and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the shooting [at Brown University]. They have not yet at this time labeled him a “suspect.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
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If what I think is the case, this story will vanish by Tuesday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (tgvbd)
186
A new study from researcher in the U.K. suggests that polar bears are undergoing rapid genetic changes, and scientists believe it's due to the impacts of climate change.“
The real point was that polar bears aren’t dying out at all, as the enviros have long claimed, they’re just adapting.
Wow you mean species can adapt and change due to environmental stimuli, and even become new species? Someone should write a book about that!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (k5cxK)
In Traveler of Worlds: Conversations with Robert Silverberg, there's a chapter where he talks about libraries, public/college and his own. Silverberg had a huge personal library and would often wind up having multiple copies of some titles, intentionally or not.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (q3u5l)
188[A]uthorities have labeled the person detained as a “person of interest” and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the shooting [at Brown University]. They have not yet at this time labeled him a “suspect.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
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If what I think is the case, this story will vanish by Tuesday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (tgvbd)
Agreed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (ufSfZ)
On shelves, duh.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Kt19C)
I've noticed in that vid that all the book workers were women, except for the shelf restorer. Are men not interested in that, or has it also become a province for women exclusively?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (uQesX)
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OK, folks, I really do need to get some writing done, even if it's only a page. I need to feel I have accomplished something!
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:41 AM (ufSfZ)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (k5cxK)
So is the Arctic Fox also undergoing rapid genetic changes?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:41 AM (KDPiq)
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The polar bear and the Arctic fox will eventually evolve to winged species so that they can migrate from one pole to the other as needed. Global warming will move "eventually" to the year 2032, as it speeds up because the west refuses to eliminate all energy not generated by Eddie Robinson's Soylent Green bicycle.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (q3u5l)
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It's actually been less because a) lot of time spent here and b) not reading in the evenings as much because sleep happens quickly.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (NcvvS)
Yeah, either start the ONT and zonk out, or never even get to it because my eyes are closed.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (uQesX)
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People seem to be fascinated by the link between the Nazis and the occult.
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That’s one of the weirder aspects that becomes apparent of the OSS/CIA in the postwar era. They picked up where all those whack jobs left off in Germany.
Seances, and trying to summon demons, remote viewing, your tax dollars at work. One hypothesis is they use these practices to form cutout organizations & cults and this was largely explained by the serious wackiness in California - the Esalen institute, Process Church, an offshoot of Scientology. Jim Jones was a huge mover and shaker in California politics and speculation he was “handled” or had some nexus with the spooks.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (eQfh1)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM (Ia/+0)
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Jefferson gave away his DVDs to make room for more bookshelves; figured he could stream the movies any time.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:48 AM (q3u5l)
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Where is Thomas Jefferson's DVD collection?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM (Ia/+0)
Threw them away because no one had invented the DVD player yet.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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195 Where is Thomas Jefferson's DVD collection?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM
Right next to his VCR flashing "12:00."
Posted by: Docent from Monticello at December 14, 2025 11:49 AM (2Ez/1)
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But, alas, if you consider the bolsheviks to be bad, you're probably not allowed to be a mainstream writer...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:56 AM (Lhaco)
Crap. Burns Richard Allen stories.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:51 AM (uQesX)
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I think it was Himmler and the SS who were the occult driver in the Nazi party .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:52 AM (KDPiq)
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23 ... "The other nonfiction on my TBR pile is C.S. Lewis: A Life by one Alister McGrath. I know more about Lewis's works than I do about his life, and I don't know his works that well. Time to rectify that."
Wolfus,
I enjoyed that McGrath biography of Lewis. When I want to know more about an author I admire I look for collections of their correspondence. Personal letters are often as revealing as a formal biography. I have collections for Lewis, Tolkien, E.B. White, and a few others.
If you enjoy books by Louis L'Amour, his "Education of a Wandering Man: A Memoir" gives a lot of background on his writing style and topics as well as his reading habits.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:53 AM (yTvNw)
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Where is Thomas Jefferson's DVD collection?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM (Ia/+0)
Silly, the DVD hadn't been invented yet. His movie collection was all on Laser Disc.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 11:55 AM (0vB2I)
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The Intifada was globalized in Australia yesterday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (tgvbd)
Yes. Exactly correct, and that phrase should be shoved down the throat of anyone in our country who utters it...starting with Mamdani.
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Germans are prolific note-takers and documentarians. The Allies scooped everything up they could on the march across Europe, as did the Soviets. There was no thought of intellectual property or patents or copyright as was the case during the 1st world war.
One thing that became controversial was using pows and concentration camp victims as guinea pigs for cold weather and high altitude survival for pilots. I’ve read one of the not too surprising things they discovered was a life vest should be bouyant enough to keep the neck above water, things like that. The US Air Force had one of their medical centers named after the chief medical researcher involved in this sort of thing. How long does it take for someone to freeze to death in icy water? Well let’s find out!
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:59 AM (+oHAL)
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I am reading the Skaith series by Leigh Bracket, I have finished The Ginger Star and I am working on the Hounds of Skaith Eric John Stark is in search of his foster father, Simon Ashton, who had disappeared on the newly discovered planet, Skaith. Skaith is a dying world circling a dimming sun who's masters, the Lords Protector, from their Citadel in the frozen north control the Wandsmen and their Farer mobs, who extract tribute from all the peoples from the icy ruins in north and drying oases in the endless deserts, to the jungled, decadent cities of the equator. Ashton had come to arrange exodus for the groups who were squeezed between the encroaching cold, the Wandsmen's tribute, and the various children of Skaith who had lost their humanity under the lash of cold, hunger and the despair under the dimming of the old sun. Stark came to rescue him in the face of the Wandsmen and prophecy naming Stark as the Dark Man.
If Brackett had written this in the 40's it would be a pastiche of Burrough's Mars books with a touch of Tarzan, as it was published in the 70's it is presented more as a Tolkien tribute, and would be a D&D campaign if it were published in the 80's.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:01 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)
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Well, off to fail at accomplishing anything useful here at Casa Some Guy.
Perfessor, thanks for the thread.
Have a good one, gang.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 12:02 PM (q3u5l)
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Target: Patton - that posits George was murdered, an opening salvo in the open “Cold War” as it were. I’m a little skeptical about the latter, but ole Blood & Guts probably had a few enemies amongst the usual suspects and in any case certainly were not sorry to see him shuffle off this mortal coil.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (m+uh6)
Mark Felton covered this possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true considering Patton wanted to continue straight to Moscow. Too many Red symps infesting western governments already wouldn't have allowed it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:04 PM (uQesX)
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Or you can have one copy for the library and one for the bathroom.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:34 AM (tgvbd)
But you repeat yourself.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:06 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 12:08 PM (kpS4V)
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41 ... "I prefer Bakshi's flawed fragment because at least I don't have to watch elves shield-surfing their way through Helm's Deep."
I never had a problem with the 'playful' moments, like the shield-surfing or Legolas taking out the Mumakil, in the LOTR movies. They were like grace notes without detracting from the action. There are moments of playful humor in the books as well.
My biggest problem with the movies is when they veer away from a character's essential personality. Aragorn was never a reluctant heir to the throne. He could have moments of doubt about his abilities to succeed but the right was never in question. Tolkien described him as determined not reluctant.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 12:09 PM (yTvNw)
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Thanks for another fine thread, Perf!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 12:08 PM (kpS4V)
Gee, I was hoping we'd get an extra hour.
(deletes all unused book thread comments)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:13 PM (uQesX)
213I think people are fascinated by Nazis and the occult because...what if it worked?!
NONSTOP PERVITIN-BUZZED SAXON SEX! in Wewelsburg ushering in the old gods.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (kpS4V)
a son of a Luftwaffe pilot told me once that Pervetin use was so widespread that they started pulling back the issue of it because troops were killing themselves from drug-impaired optimism. He also said his dad had trouble getting clean of it after the end of the war.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:17 PM (rbvCR)
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Enjoyed the Jefferson video Perfessor.
Maybe his movie collection was Beta?
I'll throw out a late comment on the Founders theme.
George Washington: A Life in Books by Kevin Hayes.
Recommended on this topic. GW had minimal 'formal' education, but was a life long learner. Book discusses those works specifically which are know to have been read & owned by him. (And as could be expected, he was gifted with a large quantity of books late in life)
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at December 14, 2025 12:18 PM (KaHlS)
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Polar Bears will be competing with Jaguars for food soon
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:35 AM (Ia/+0)
Jaguar is basically extinct.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:23 PM (npFr7)
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As to WHY write: RAH said it best (as always):
“The acme of prose style is exemplified by that simple, graceful clause: "Pay to the order of. . . ."'"
-Robert A. Heinlein
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 14, 2025 12:28 PM (YpNh1)
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Sorry I missed the thread - was shoveling snow
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 01:26 PM (dE3DB)
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Maybe this has been mentioned before, but just wanted to give a shout out to British You-tuber Tom Ayling. He's a relatively new book dealer in London whose channel displays some of the most beautiful rare and precious books I've ever seen, with particular emphasis on Tolkien.
If you enjoy books as objects of art and history it is really captivating stuff.
Posted by: Gem at December 14, 2025 01:52 PM (e85zz)
"Are the Clovis tools Asian in origin? Drawing from original archaeological analysis, paleoclimatic research, and genetic studies, noted archaeologists Dennis J. Stanford and Bruce A. Bradley challenge the old narrative. They counter traditional -- and often subjective -- approaches to archaeological testing for historical relatedness by applying rigorous scholarship."
"Circling the Sun tells the story of Beryl Markham. It is a fictionalized biographical novel."
Fun read.
Who cares if it's historical fiction. Official biographies are often fictitious. One saddo reviewer called it "chick-lit," which is mean-girl speak from a wannabe writer.
Beryl stumbled through life in colonial Kenya, but did so with verve.
Posted by: 13times at December 14, 2025 04:37 PM (fnZRl)
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