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The Atlantic Admits That the 100% Safe Covid Vaccine Killed Children (But Finds Room to Attack Vaccine Skeptics Anyway)
Steve Jobs' Widow's Vanity Magazine The Atlantic takes a "pox on both their houses" position on the covid vaccines: The "health authorities" and their I-Believe-In-Science allies are criticized for denying the undeniable, that the covid vaccines did cause myocarditis and death in children, particularly young boys.
But the article of course also criticizes those who correctly and honestly pointed out that the vaccine was dangerous for children, particularly young boys, because... well, because they're On the Other Side and it's very gauche of them to be right about The Science. David Strom excerpted this yesterday.On the Friday after Thanksgiving, Vinay Prasad, the FDA's top vaccine regulator, made a claim that shocked the public-health establishment. "For the first time," he wrote in a leaked email to his staff, "the US FDA will acknowledge that COVID-19 vaccines have killed American children." The agency had supposedly identified at least 10 children who died from getting COVID shots. ... To say the email was poorly received by vaccine experts and physicians would be an understatement. Prasad's claim provoked a rapid series of rebuttals. A response from 12 former FDA commissioners, published in The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday, called Prasad's memo "a threat to evidence-based vaccine policy and public health security." All of the potential vaccine-related deaths reported to the government, presumably including those to which Prasad referred, had already been reviewed by the agency's staff, the former commissioners wrote, and "different conclusions" had been reached. Elsewhere, doctors and scientists declared that absolutely no evidence links COVID-19 vaccines to death in children; and that in order to suggest otherwise, Prasad and his colleagues had engaged in an "evidence-manufacturing mission," a "dumpster dive" for shoddy data, or--worse--a campaign of lying. ...there's something troubling--and telling--in the fact that his memo has provoked people to deny even the possibility of COVID-vaccine-related deaths. The idea that mRNA-based shots have, tragically, killed a very small number of children is not far-fetched. It also doesn't imply a catastrophic threat to public health, given that tens of millions of doses of these vaccines have safely been given out to young people. From the start of the coronavirus pandemic, lack of nuance has been a problem with public-health messaging--one that anti-vaccine advocates have made use of to great effect. Now, in a moment when public health in America is under existential threat, this insistence that no evidence exists for vaccine-related deaths risks adding to the crisis.But children did not need the "vaccines," meaning that the risks of mandating it to them -- and the deaths that then occurred -- were absolutely unnecessary.
No public-health authorities deny that COVID shots can have some ill effects. Adverse reactions are possible with all medical interventions. The mRNA-based vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna, in particular, are known to cause myocarditis--inflammation of the heart--on rare occasions, especially in teenage boys and young men. The form of myocarditis that occurs after vaccination is typically far less severe than the one caused by viruses; for unclear reasons, mRNA-related cases have largely disappeared in recent years. But this condition can be deadly, and considering the hundreds of millions of mRNA doses that have been administered to Americans, even extraordinarily unlikely outcomes may well be inevitable.He doesn't want to lose his Leftwing Pinhead Membership Card, so he now pivots to attacking those who correctly said that children do not need the vaccine and in fact seem to be harmed by it:
Strom points out that this joker believes that RFKJr. is an "existential threat" to public health. Not the people who mandated that children take a vaccine that they did not need and which actually murdered a couple dozen of them, but the guy saying "Let's review the necessity and efficacy and safety of vaccines." Strom mentions that once upon a time, he assumed the best of public health officials. Not any longer, of course. I've written about this, but I'll mention it again: My own realization that public health officials consider it a badge of honor to blatantly lie to the pubic about public health -- to convince the uneducated to do what the educated want them to do, through any means necessary, including public disinformation campaigns -- came when I saw CNN's health correspondent Sanjay Gupta interview Obama's head of the CDC during the ebola outbreak. During that outbreak, "The experts" decided to downplay the risk of the disease, instead of being hyper-alarmist. They did so because Obama had decided that the First Black President must never impose a temporary travel ban to any African country, even one in the midst of an ebola outbreak. So the marching orders went out to public health officials to convince the Uneducated Bigots of America that ebola was no big deal, really, You Racists. Obama's CDC director claimed that ebola wasn't a danger for spreading because it could not be spread by "airborne transmission" but only by "direct contact." He said this specifically to allay fears of people on planes, trains, and buses that they could catch ebola from a fellow passenger. Gupta asked, "So there's no risk if someone with ebola sneezes on another passenger? " Obama's lying CDC directed reiterated that "ebola cannot be spread by airborne transmission," asserting that this statement answered the question. But it didn't. Because we later learned that "airborne transmission" refers to disease-carrying bodies remaining in the air for hours and hours after the infected person has left the room. It refers to particles so light that they just "bounce" up and down in the air and don't sink to the ground for days. But a sneeze is not considered "airborne transmission," even though it sounds like it should be, and even though Obama's CDC director insinuated that a sneeze would be a case of airborne transmission and ebola could not be spread by airborne transmission. No, Gupta later told viewers in an update: A sneeze is considered direct contact with the infected person -- the spittle passes directly from them to anyone hit by the spray -- so yes, ebola is easily spread by a sneeze. And Obama's CDC director knew this, but he wanted to lie to the public, per Obama's wish to downplay the outbreak, so he told the world that ebola could not be passed via a sneeze. It was a straight up lie. But he told it because the "experts" had decided that the value of keeping travel open to Africa outweighed Racist Americans' bigoted ideas about ebola being a killer disease that could literally liquify your internal organs, so "The Science" was changed to convince people of the political decision the "experts" had decided was best for them. Earlier this year I started watching House, MD. The main character is an arrogant sociopath who routinely lies to patients about the risks or benefits of a course of treatment. He justifies this by noting that he went to medical school whereas most patients did not, and so he knows the right course of action and they simply don't. When told that this violates the law of informed consent, he snaps back that informed consent is a lie because informed consent is impossible for non-experts. So might as well lie to them or trick them into doing "the right thing," at least according to "the experts." I mention that, of course, because it's not just a trait given to a fictional character on a TV show. There are a lot of people in medicine and particularly in the highly political field of government "public health" who share House's view on the impossibility of true informed consent and therefore the justification for simply lying to people to get them to do the "right" thing. If you meet with a doctor, you're the client. But you are not the client of "public health officials." The government, specifically the President or the state governor, is their client. That's the person they are working for. You are just the rubes they're hustling to sell a product to.
The possibility--perhaps the likelihood--that a handful of vaccine-related deaths occurred and were downplayed by medical authorities does not undermine the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale. Nor does it justify sweeping changes to vaccine regulations. Rather, it suggests the need for some targeted reforms, such as improvements to the country's vaccine-adverse-event reporting system--and also tells us that a strategy of minimizing tragic outcomes, however rare, may not be the best way to protect a vital instrument of public health.
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Posted by: doug at December 11, 2025 03:26 PM (Hy+R4)
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It's amazing the truth that can come out when it's not politically expedient to suppress it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:27 PM (GBKbO)
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Strom mentions that once upon a time, he assumed the best of public health officials. Not any longer, of course.
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Are you not entertained by the credentials after their names anymore?
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Are you not entertained by the credentials after their names anymore?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:28 PM (GBKbO)
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Whatever happened to if it saves just ONE child....
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:28 PM (fexSQ)
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 11, 2025 03:28 PM (5IH8V)
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Bet a lot more fatalities than they will admit
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2025 03:29 PM (Ia/+0)
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Can I Still Wear The Mask?
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (FGMmt)
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7 Can I Still Wear The Mask?
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (FGMmt)
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Will you be...SMMMMMMOKIN?!
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (FGMmt)
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Will you be...SMMMMMMOKIN?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)
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You have to break some eggs to fundamentally change America. Jeez. You all are rayciss!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (Wg6v7)
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To admit that children were killed by a vaccine designed to protect them from the effects of a disease that was not terribly dangerous to them would undermine the whole purpose of having mandatory childhood vaccine schedules.
Admitting this is a limited hang-out.
Their real problem in defending this is that it appears that the spike protein and the various DNA contaminants in the Covid vaccine are oncogenic.
Admitting this is a limited hang-out.
Their real problem in defending this is that it appears that the spike protein and the various DNA contaminants in the Covid vaccine are oncogenic.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (rbvCR)
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Look. If you want to make an omelet...
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (IaZ7c)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (zjgNU)
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Was the Obama Admin's interest in ebola really about African countries? Or was there something else? Like they needed patients to test on?
Point is I'm loathe to auto-believe the race excuses, as believable as they are, because Democrats hide a metric ton of horseshit behind race.
Point is I'm loathe to auto-believe the race excuses, as believable as they are, because Democrats hide a metric ton of horseshit behind race.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (fexSQ)
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12 A virtually untested vaccine has deadly side-effects?
WELL, WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!?!?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (zjgNU)
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It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
WELL, WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!?!?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:31 PM (zjgNU)
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It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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6 Bet a lot more fatalities than they will admit
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They ran this circus just like C. Everett Koop ran his - anyone that died, died of Tobacco.
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They ran this circus just like C. Everett Koop ran his - anyone that died, died of Tobacco.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (Wg6v7)
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It's spelled N-O-O-D spells Nood!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (A0sqA)
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It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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2020 might very well go down in history as the Year of the Big Lies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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2020 might very well go down in history as the Year of the Big Lies.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (ESVrU)
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (IaZ7c)
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Will you be...SMMMMMMOKIN?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)
"if you stop smoking, and forcing second hand smoke on other people, and stop eating fatty food," they said, "cancer and heart attack rates will go down"
So we stopped smoking and ate heart-healthy, and cancer and heart attack rates have gone up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)
"if you stop smoking, and forcing second hand smoke on other people, and stop eating fatty food," they said, "cancer and heart attack rates will go down"
So we stopped smoking and ate heart-healthy, and cancer and heart attack rates have gone up.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (rbvCR)
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17 It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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2020 might very well go down in history as the Year of the Big Lies.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (ESVrU)
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The Greater Truths we had to be told in order to save us from ourselves which didn't work anyway, but now it can be told.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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2020 might very well go down in history as the Year of the Big Lies.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (ESVrU)
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The Greater Truths we had to be told in order to save us from ourselves which didn't work anyway, but now it can be told.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)
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So wait. The vax killed more kids than the coof?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (A0sqA)
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2 It's amazing the truth that can come out when it's not politically expedient to suppress it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:27 PM (GBKbO)
The truth ain’t nothin but the truth
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:27 PM (GBKbO)
The truth ain’t nothin but the truth
Posted by: Black Flag at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (rQwsY)
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18 Can you ALL, please(!), just back off 6 feet?
For Grandma.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (IaZ7c)
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Is Seattle Slough socking garrett?
For Grandma.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (IaZ7c)
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Is Seattle Slough socking garrett?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Strom points out that this joker believes that RFKJr. is an "existential threat" to public health. Not the people who mandated that children take a vaccine that they did not need and which actually murdered a couple dozen of them, but the guy saying "Let's review the necessity and efficacy and safety of vaccines."
One of the core things about the modern bureaucracy is there is never to be punishment for failure to achieve whatever the supposed goal of the bureaucracy is.
So pointing out that the NIH, CDC, and FDA all completely failed at COVID and expecting consequences is...wrong. In the old days of course the leadership of each would be fired and maybe proscuted.
But the only area the permanent bureaucracy wants consequences for is if people demand accountability like RFK is doing.
One of the core things about the modern bureaucracy is there is never to be punishment for failure to achieve whatever the supposed goal of the bureaucracy is.
So pointing out that the NIH, CDC, and FDA all completely failed at COVID and expecting consequences is...wrong. In the old days of course the leadership of each would be fired and maybe proscuted.
But the only area the permanent bureaucracy wants consequences for is if people demand accountability like RFK is doing.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:34 PM (sKqQm)
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"if you stop smoking, and forcing second hand smoke on other people, and stop eating fatty food," they said, "cancer and heart attack rates will go down"
So we stopped smoking and ate heart-healthy, and cancer and heart attack rates have gone up.
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Lard and tobacco are good things.
So we stopped smoking and ate heart-healthy, and cancer and heart attack rates have gone up.
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Lard and tobacco are good things.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:34 PM (Wg6v7)
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The Greater Truths we had to be told in order to save us from ourselves which didn't work anyway, but now it can be told.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)
And now you know…the rest of the story.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)
And now you know…the rest of the story.
Posted by: Paul Harvey at December 11, 2025 03:34 PM (rQwsY)
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If you meet with a doctor, you're the client.
But you are not the client of "public health officials." The government, specifically the President or the state governor, is their client.
That's the person they are working for. You are just the rubes they're hustling to sell a product to.
Considering the level of groupthink and enforced conformity among physicians you aren't necessarily the client you think you are. There is at least an even chance you're on the ass end of "consensus" manufactured by those very same public health officials.
But you are not the client of "public health officials." The government, specifically the President or the state governor, is their client.
That's the person they are working for. You are just the rubes they're hustling to sell a product to.
Considering the level of groupthink and enforced conformity among physicians you aren't necessarily the client you think you are. There is at least an even chance you're on the ass end of "consensus" manufactured by those very same public health officials.
Posted by: but but but EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (TbWk/)
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The possibility--perhaps the likelihood--that a handful of vaccine-related deaths occurred and were downplayed by medical authorities does not undermine the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale.
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Not a fact. A criminal lie.
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Not a fact. A criminal lie.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (A0sqA)
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Or like how supposedly R's were "afraid" to fight Obama because they didn't want to be called racist. Except then suddenly they wouldn't attack Biden or Hillary. Or anyone. Because it was never about race. It was because they are filthy lying skunk jibjabber blorfle fecrunds. Sorry - I've run out of words to describe Republicans.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (fexSQ)
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This weekend Army /Navy game is on CBS ! (Go NAVY beat ARMY!) 2pm. Trump usually goes.
And so is :
"What would Erika Kirk say to Candace Owens, as she pushes conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's "Stop, in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life," @MrsErikaKirk sat down with CBS News Editor-in-Chief @bariweiss for an hour-long town hall. Watch it on Saturday, Dec. 13, at 8 p.m. ET, only on CBS."
And so is :
"What would Erika Kirk say to Candace Owens, as she pushes conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's "Stop, in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life," @MrsErikaKirk sat down with CBS News Editor-in-Chief @bariweiss for an hour-long town hall. Watch it on Saturday, Dec. 13, at 8 p.m. ET, only on CBS."
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (g47mK)
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I had been skeptical of the "health experts" for a while, but the one that really got me was that BLM rioters were not a risk of being in groups because...reasons, but some dude surfing by himself in the ocean was an existential threat.
There were other things that made me eyeroll too, of course. Like you could get covid in a park in the full sunshine on a picnic with your family.
There were other things that made me eyeroll too, of course. Like you could get covid in a park in the full sunshine on a picnic with your family.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (n5tGW)
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>>A virtually untested vaccine has deadly side-effects?
>WELL, WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!?!?
Sometimes Science is a lot more Art, than Science. Morty.
>WELL, WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!?!?
Sometimes Science is a lot more Art, than Science. Morty.
Posted by: garrett at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (IaZ7c)
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25 "if you stop smoking, and forcing second hand smoke on other people, and stop eating fatty food," they said, "cancer and heart attack rates will go down"
So we stopped smoking and ate heart-healthy, and cancer and heart attack rates have gone up.
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Lard and tobacco are good things.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:34 PM (Wg6v7)
People who never touch lard or tobacco die.
We need to give up the never ending search for the Universal Rule Book. But that would mean admitting that we are individuals, and we can’t have that in this country.
So we stopped smoking and ate heart-healthy, and cancer and heart attack rates have gone up.
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Lard and tobacco are good things.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:34 PM (Wg6v7)
People who never touch lard or tobacco die.
We need to give up the never ending search for the Universal Rule Book. But that would mean admitting that we are individuals, and we can’t have that in this country.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (rQwsY)
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The Atlantic. Ah, okay.
Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (Tbj3s)
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Has anyone ever heard a drug warning from the Fake Vax?
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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My own realization that public health officials consider it a badge of honor to blatantly lie to the pubic about public health
Mine was when Fauci and the gang decided to announce that a huge wave of heterosexual AIDS was about to sweep the country, to avoid "stigmatizing" homosexuals and injectable drug users, who constituted almost all the actual AIDS cases.
At a time when most AIDS cases were occurring in a couple of dozen urban neighborhoods with large quantities of homosexuals and IV drug users, instead of focusing on those neighborhoods, the Federal government was spending hundreds of millions of dollars telling normal high school students that they were at high risk of contracting AIDS.
Mine was when Fauci and the gang decided to announce that a huge wave of heterosexual AIDS was about to sweep the country, to avoid "stigmatizing" homosexuals and injectable drug users, who constituted almost all the actual AIDS cases.
At a time when most AIDS cases were occurring in a couple of dozen urban neighborhoods with large quantities of homosexuals and IV drug users, instead of focusing on those neighborhoods, the Federal government was spending hundreds of millions of dollars telling normal high school students that they were at high risk of contracting AIDS.
Posted by: The Atlantic Magazine! at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (xTIDn)
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Strom mentions that once upon a time, he assumed the best of public health officials. Not any longer, of course.
Fauci defunded and marginalized the big names that opposed him out of the gate. Most of the rest of the establishment noted that and either shut up or started helping him.
We note for many cops the job is "come home safely until I can get retirement" well the same is true for most government scientists and pretty much all government bureaucrats.
Fauci defunded and marginalized the big names that opposed him out of the gate. Most of the rest of the establishment noted that and either shut up or started helping him.
We note for many cops the job is "come home safely until I can get retirement" well the same is true for most government scientists and pretty much all government bureaucrats.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (sKqQm)
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It's really lucky that many of our congress critters are wholly owned subsidiaries of Big Pharma. Oh, wait ..
Well the propaganda ministries aren't mostly funded by Both g Pharm ad money. Oh , wait...
More than anything it's good that we have scientists and researchers that won't change their opinions for grants. Oh , wait...
FUBAR
Well the propaganda ministries aren't mostly funded by Both g Pharm ad money. Oh , wait...
More than anything it's good that we have scientists and researchers that won't change their opinions for grants. Oh , wait...
FUBAR
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (D+mpw)
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There are a lot of people in medicine and particularly in the highly political field of government "public health" who share House's view on the impossibility of true informed consent and therefore the justification for simply lying to people to get them to do the "right" thing.
Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” -CS Lewis
But what does some old white man know?
Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” -CS Lewis
But what does some old white man know?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (zjgNU)
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21 So wait. The vax killed more kids than the coof?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (A0sqA)
Only kids that were at extreme risk: Cancer, Diabetes, Immunosuppression, etc. should have been the only ones even considered for the jab, if at all.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (A0sqA)
Only kids that were at extreme risk: Cancer, Diabetes, Immunosuppression, etc. should have been the only ones even considered for the jab, if at all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (ynpvh)
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"House, MD"
My mom likes (or liked) that show, but I couldn't last more than one or two episodes. I wanted to punch the lead in the face and kick everyone else in the balls. If I wanted to watch a grundle of arrogant prick cocksuckers bloviate and suck their own dicks for an hour, I'd watch CNN.
My mom likes (or liked) that show, but I couldn't last more than one or two episodes. I wanted to punch the lead in the face and kick everyone else in the balls. If I wanted to watch a grundle of arrogant prick cocksuckers bloviate and suck their own dicks for an hour, I'd watch CNN.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (iFTx/)
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2 It's amazing the truth that can come out when it's not politically expedient to suppress it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:27 PM (GBKbO)
The truth is you never get the truth. It's always another lie. Sometimes it's just more believable or contains "more" truth. But it's always a lie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:27 PM (GBKbO)
The truth is you never get the truth. It's always another lie. Sometimes it's just more believable or contains "more" truth. But it's always a lie.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (fexSQ)
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>>> I had been skeptical of the "health experts" for a while, but the one that really got me was that BLM rioters were not a risk of being in groups because...reasons, but some dude surfing by himself in the ocean was an existential threat.
Again, a nakedly political decision having nothing to do with "science" but pushed by as "The Science (TM)."
Again, a nakedly political decision having nothing to do with "science" but pushed by as "The Science (TM)."
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
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Lard and tobacco are good things. now we re talking
Posted by: doug at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (Hy+R4)
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30 This weekend Army /Navy game is on CBS ! (Go NAVY beat ARMY!) 2pm. Trump usually goes.
And so is :
"What would Erika Kirk say to Candace Owens, as she pushes conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's "Stop, in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life," @MrsErikaKirk sat down with CBS News Editor-in-Chief @bariweiss for an hour-long town hall. Watch it on Saturday, Dec. 13, at 8 p.m. ET, only on CBS."
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (g47mK)
Go Navy, beat Army. (Because last I checked USAFA is out of it)
CinC Trophy on the line or nah?
And so is :
"What would Erika Kirk say to Candace Owens, as she pushes conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's "Stop, in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life," @MrsErikaKirk sat down with CBS News Editor-in-Chief @bariweiss for an hour-long town hall. Watch it on Saturday, Dec. 13, at 8 p.m. ET, only on CBS."
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:35 PM (g47mK)
Go Navy, beat Army. (Because last I checked USAFA is out of it)
CinC Trophy on the line or nah?
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (rQwsY)
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>> Not a fact. A criminal lie.
They always see. Any "mainstream" journal that does publish bad things about the so-called Covid "vaccines" always has to chant that mantra. It's not true in the least, but they all have to say that to get published.
I look on the bright side, at least they are publishing this stuff.
They always see. Any "mainstream" journal that does publish bad things about the so-called Covid "vaccines" always has to chant that mantra. It's not true in the least, but they all have to say that to get published.
I look on the bright side, at least they are publishing this stuff.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (w6EFb)
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the answer to all this is to stay as healthy as you can! eat a balance meal , sleep 10 hours a day, no smoking or drinking to excess, exercise and breathe fresh air!
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)
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The possibility--perhaps the likelihood--that a handful of vaccine-related deaths occurred and were downplayed by medical authorities does not undermine the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale.
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How is this a provable "fact?"
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How is this a provable "fact?"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (ESVrU)
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Has anyone ever heard a drug warning from the Fake Vax?
I saw an ad for a new COVID vaccine that is supposedly a real vaccine. They say something like "This drug is for people that want protection from COVID but are worried about the side effects of the current COVID vaccines..."
I saw an ad for a new COVID vaccine that is supposedly a real vaccine. They say something like "This drug is for people that want protection from COVID but are worried about the side effects of the current COVID vaccines..."
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (sKqQm)
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Most vaccine-caused deaths were never reported to VAERS.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (W7XSX)
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>>>My mom likes (or liked) that show, but I couldn't last more than one or two episodes. I wanted to punch the lead in the face and kick everyone else in the balls. If I wanted to watch a grundle of arrogant prick cocksuckers bloviate and suck their own dicks for an hour, I'd watch CNN.
yes, absolutely, House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
yes, absolutely, House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
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"They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth."
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (zjgNU)
Also, that may have been true in C.S. Lewis's time, but certainly not now.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:36 PM (zjgNU)
Also, that may have been true in C.S. Lewis's time, but certainly not now.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 11, 2025 03:38 PM (zjgNU)
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If they cop to 10 deaths there were probably 10,000.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:38 PM (A0sqA)
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Hey back off the whole six feet thing, that was my favorite part.
It's only recently I've noticed all the damn mouthbreathers and homunculi out there sidling back in, too. Get your damn toes off my heels ya creeps, you ain't losing your spot in line by some arcane magic if the back of my neck isn't subjected to a constant stream of your hot gingival funk, you gross weirdos.
It's only recently I've noticed all the damn mouthbreathers and homunculi out there sidling back in, too. Get your damn toes off my heels ya creeps, you ain't losing your spot in line by some arcane magic if the back of my neck isn't subjected to a constant stream of your hot gingival funk, you gross weirdos.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:38 PM (Vq1pX)
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So wait. The vax killed more kids than the coof?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (A0sqA)
You were unaware of this? Any moderately healthy young man could shrug off Covid. There was no reason for the shot. Girls are equally capable of shrugging it off, but they for some reason are less likely to get heart damage from the shot than young men.
The f___s killed children with the shot, and then got all proud of what they did for mankind and gave themselves fimt medals for their contributions.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 11, 2025 03:33 PM (A0sqA)
You were unaware of this? Any moderately healthy young man could shrug off Covid. There was no reason for the shot. Girls are equally capable of shrugging it off, but they for some reason are less likely to get heart damage from the shot than young men.
The f___s killed children with the shot, and then got all proud of what they did for mankind and gave themselves fimt medals for their contributions.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:38 PM (rbvCR)
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Whatever happened to if it saves just ONE child....
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:28 P
You thought we were serious about that?
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:28 P
You thought we were serious about that?
Posted by: My Cousin Lefty at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (kgE5c)
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I have always loved that CS Lewis quote, and it has some relevance to certain realities. But over the last 25 years it's become beyond evident that no one is in this for anyone's good but their own. Especially not the Left.
"Good" is always just the excuse for the next thing they want to steal.
"Good" is always just the excuse for the next thing they want to steal.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (fexSQ)
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Ten children killed by Covid mRNA? I believe thousands, and the excess deaths will continue indefinitely. I wish it weren't true, but I can't reach a different conclusion. Every single thing the "experts" have told us about Covid has turned out to be a lie.
Ten children killed by Covid mRNA? I believe thousands, and the excess deaths will continue indefinitely. I wish it weren't true, but I can't reach a different conclusion. Every single thing the "experts" have told us about Covid has turned out to be a lie.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (VWtfl)
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yes, absolutely, House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
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Dr. Cox from Scrubs is a more genuine (and entertaining) character than Dr. House.
Plenty of comedic sociopathy, but he also shows very human moments from time to time.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
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Dr. Cox from Scrubs is a more genuine (and entertaining) character than Dr. House.
Plenty of comedic sociopathy, but he also shows very human moments from time to time.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (ESVrU)
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***taptaptap***
is this thing on ...
Attention please:
THERE WAS NO VACCINE. IT WAS GENE THERAPY
Thank you for your attention to this matter
***drops mic***
is this thing on ...
Attention please:
THERE WAS NO VACCINE. IT WAS GENE THERAPY
Thank you for your attention to this matter
***drops mic***
Posted by: browndog moving slowly at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (3sXRv)
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and also tells us that a strategy of minimizing tragic outcomes, however rare, may not be the best way to protect a vital instrument of public health.
Now tell this to the "if it saves one child" gun-control advocates.
Now tell this to the "if it saves one child" gun-control advocates.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (Vq1pX)
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I mention that, of course, because it's not just a trait given to a fictional character on a TV show.
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No, that is the behavior of many "experts".
All you have to do is look at the cohorts in the vanguard of expert arrogance: judges. And then look at how many laws they are pulling out of their asses daily.
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No, that is the behavior of many "experts".
All you have to do is look at the cohorts in the vanguard of expert arrogance: judges. And then look at how many laws they are pulling out of their asses daily.
Posted by: Axeman at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (krQz2)
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I wandered across a thread last week where a woman had noted that the left wanted to imprison people for not taking the clot shot and to take their kids away.
There were three types of responses from leftwingers:
1) Quoting the effectiveness of other, non-COVID vaccines as if they were being discussed
2) Arguing no leftist anyway want to imprison people for refusing the clot shot or wanted to take their kids away
3) Arguing that we really should have imprisoned dissidents on the clot shot and taken their children away.
In fact it was common to see a type 2 response showing up right below a type 3 response...
And this is one of the games the left plays
There were three types of responses from leftwingers:
1) Quoting the effectiveness of other, non-COVID vaccines as if they were being discussed
2) Arguing no leftist anyway want to imprison people for refusing the clot shot or wanted to take their kids away
3) Arguing that we really should have imprisoned dissidents on the clot shot and taken their children away.
In fact it was common to see a type 2 response showing up right below a type 3 response...
And this is one of the games the left plays
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (sKqQm)
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There are a lot of people in medicine and particularly in the highly political field of government "public health" who share House's view on the impossibility of true informed consent and therefore the justification for simply lying to people to get them to do the "right" thing.
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Public health is supposed to be about protecting you from external threats. Banning smoking in public spaces is, at least arguably, a public health issue. Getting you to stop smoking is not a public health issue. They have no business sticking their nose into 90% of the issues that they go on about.
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Public health is supposed to be about protecting you from external threats. Banning smoking in public spaces is, at least arguably, a public health issue. Getting you to stop smoking is not a public health issue. They have no business sticking their nose into 90% of the issues that they go on about.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (XvL8K)
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CinC Trophy on the line or nah?
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM
Yes.
BEAT NAVY!
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM
Yes.
BEAT NAVY!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (kgE5c)
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7 Can I Still Wear The Mask?
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (FGMmt)
Who or what is stopping you?
I was at a B&N the other day and the cashier I bought the book from was wearing one.
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025 03:30 PM (FGMmt)
Who or what is stopping you?
I was at a B&N the other day and the cashier I bought the book from was wearing one.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (rQwsY)
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59 yes, absolutely, House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
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Dr. Cox from Scrubs is a more genuine (and entertaining) character than Dr. House.
Plenty of comedic sociopathy, but he also shows very human moments from time to time.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (ESVrU)
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Especially when Rick O'Connell died!
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
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Dr. Cox from Scrubs is a more genuine (and entertaining) character than Dr. House.
Plenty of comedic sociopathy, but he also shows very human moments from time to time.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (ESVrU)
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Especially when Rick O'Connell died!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1wjle)
Why oh why did my "#Science" never catch on. Maybe I should have spelled it out? Hashtag Science? No that's not better. It's worse and I'm dumb.
Why oh why did my "#Science" never catch on. Maybe I should have spelled it out? Hashtag Science? No that's not better. It's worse and I'm dumb.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:40 PM (fexSQ)
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@45 sure ?
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (g47mK)
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The f___s killed children with the shot, and then got all proud of what they did for mankind and gave themselves fimt medals for their contributions.
Posted by: Kindltot
Justice will come for them, eventually. Would be nice if some justice was meted out before 'eventually' though.
And a reminder that Justice does come for all of us, eventually.
Posted by: Kindltot
Justice will come for them, eventually. Would be nice if some justice was meted out before 'eventually' though.
And a reminder that Justice does come for all of us, eventually.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (Dv3i1)
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"Strom mentions that once upon a time, he assumed the best of public health officials."
Any belief that "public health experts" had anything but their own selfish interests in mind should have blown up no later than the 1980s AIDS "crisis."
I don't know which was worse, that period or during covid, for never-ending blatant lies and dangerous deception spewing from the mouths of "public health experts" like diarrhea spraying from Satan's asshole after he ate all the burritos at all Taco Bells in the country.
Any belief that "public health experts" had anything but their own selfish interests in mind should have blown up no later than the 1980s AIDS "crisis."
I don't know which was worse, that period or during covid, for never-ending blatant lies and dangerous deception spewing from the mouths of "public health experts" like diarrhea spraying from Satan's asshole after he ate all the burritos at all Taco Bells in the country.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (iFTx/)
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I mean it isn't like they had to change the official definition of what a vaccine is to push this on the country or anything.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0N4FZ)
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the six foot distance rule - made up bullshit.
the mask rule - made up bullshit.
the covid vaccine is actually a vaccine - made up bullshit
the mask rule - made up bullshit.
the covid vaccine is actually a vaccine - made up bullshit
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (n5tGW)
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these days I only see people in retail wearing masks, which is understandable, lots of bug
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (g47mK)
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yes, absolutely, House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM
But without House, would it be House, M.D.?
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM
But without House, would it be House, M.D.?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0sNs1)
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They ain't going to Heaven because they thought they were gods.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (W7XSX)
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>Strom points out that this joker believes that RFKJr. is an "existential threat" to public health.
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RFKjr is an "existential threat" to the scam.
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RFKjr is an "existential threat" to the scam.
Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (Q+gd/)
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the answer to all this is to stay as healthy as you can! eat a balance meal , sleep 10 hours a day, no smoking or drinking to excess, exercise and breathe fresh air!
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)
Fresh air, when it's nine below zero, will fucking near kill you.
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)
Fresh air, when it's nine below zero, will fucking near kill you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2025 03:42 PM (npFr7)
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I remember when the idea that COVID wasn't a danger to otherwise healthy kids starting getting traction the FNM desperately started looking for kids that had died from COVID and they found one.
They trumpeted his name and insinuated it was evil vaccine opponents that were to blame for his death.
And then someone found a picture of the kid. He was 11 years old I think and at least 300 lbs.
They trumpeted his name and insinuated it was evil vaccine opponents that were to blame for his death.
And then someone found a picture of the kid. He was 11 years old I think and at least 300 lbs.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:42 PM (sKqQm)
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Let's also mention that the regulatory agencies charged with promoting Good Public Health have almost entirely been captured by the moneyed interests in the heathcare industry, transforming the agencies into little more than government-sponsored Sales and Marketing teams for the shit the companies sell.
Posted by: Howard Johnson at December 11, 2025 03:42 PM (3BwY8)
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does not undermine the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale.
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Which didn't happen.
Before the Jab, COVID had a >99% survivability for people under 70. After the jab, the same group was the most susceptible, even after taking the Jab.
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Which didn't happen.
Before the Jab, COVID had a >99% survivability for people under 70. After the jab, the same group was the most susceptible, even after taking the Jab.
Posted by: Axeman at December 11, 2025 03:42 PM (krQz2)
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Scrubs was a genius show. You'd go from laughing to crying in moments but never felt manipulated. Show had the right amounts of humor, tragedy, and pathos and always kept its heart.
Posted by: Peak TV at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (TbWk/)
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response from 12 former FDA commissioners, published in The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday, called Prasad's memo "a threat to evidence-based vaccine policy and public health security."
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Translation: "I must maintain this rigid position, or all will be lost."
Alternatively: "Been lying through my teeth for years. I'd be a fool to quit now."
response from 12 former FDA commissioners, published in The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday, called Prasad's memo "a threat to evidence-based vaccine policy and public health security."
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Translation: "I must maintain this rigid position, or all will be lost."
Alternatively: "Been lying through my teeth for years. I'd be a fool to quit now."
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (VWtfl)
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It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
Is it weird that all that stuff in 2020 needed hindsight to be seen clearly?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
Is it weird that all that stuff in 2020 needed hindsight to be seen clearly?
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (fexSQ)
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Another interesting part in this was the furry at RFK when he merely stopped recommending the clot shot.
Note he didn't ban it.
And yet lefties everywhere played pretend that they could no longer get the clot shot...
Note he didn't ban it.
And yet lefties everywhere played pretend that they could no longer get the clot shot...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (sKqQm)
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85 It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
Is it weird that all that stuff in 2020 needed hindsight to be seen clearly?
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (fexSQ)
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By whom, kemosabe?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
Is it weird that all that stuff in 2020 needed hindsight to be seen clearly?
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (fexSQ)
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By whom, kemosabe?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Justice will come for them, eventually. Would be nice if some justice was meted out before 'eventually' though.
And a reminder that Justice does come for all of us, eventually.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (Dv3i1)
Justice will be done ONLY if they are beaten to death with farm implements in a field. Anything less is merely garbage disposal. IMHO
And a reminder that Justice does come for all of us, eventually.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (Dv3i1)
Justice will be done ONLY if they are beaten to death with farm implements in a field. Anything less is merely garbage disposal. IMHO
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (rbvCR)
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I used to mistrust the word "public", just in general.
Then the word "health" became suspect too. What are you after? You clearly don't care about patient outcomes as such...
Now "expert" is a semantically empty vessel too, beyond indicating that you're definitely, without a doubt, being lied to.
Then the word "health" became suspect too. What are you after? You clearly don't care about patient outcomes as such...
Now "expert" is a semantically empty vessel too, beyond indicating that you're definitely, without a doubt, being lied to.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (Vq1pX)
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There is a recent French study making the rounds. It shows that the vaccine "resulted of lower all cause mortality" and even reduced things such as car accidents and ingrown toenails.
(I joke about toenails, but car accidents is a tell.)
The study is held as defnitive proof, but let me quickly show the flaw. The study looks at the entire French population and then separates out those who got a vaccine and those who didn't.
But it uses interaction with health care system as the mechanism to ID those cohorts. See the problem? The vaccinated group all went to Dr. to get vaccine, the unvaccinated group only count if they ... were sick and went to the Dr.
Anyway, let me get that out there if anyone is interested.
(I joke about toenails, but car accidents is a tell.)
The study is held as defnitive proof, but let me quickly show the flaw. The study looks at the entire French population and then separates out those who got a vaccine and those who didn't.
But it uses interaction with health care system as the mechanism to ID those cohorts. See the problem? The vaccinated group all went to Dr. to get vaccine, the unvaccinated group only count if they ... were sick and went to the Dr.
Anyway, let me get that out there if anyone is interested.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (Pkr1Y)
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Turns out it was Lupus.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (L3gF5)
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We need a soul vaccination. All across the nation.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (fexSQ)
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As Dr. Ryan Cole pointed out early on, if they suspected you died of the vaccine, no autopsy for you.
They intentionally buried any incriminating data of micro-clots.
They intentionally buried any incriminating data of micro-clots.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (W7XSX)
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By whom, kemosabe?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
Everyone
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
Everyone
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (fexSQ)
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Lots of folk in my office were so happy for the shot. I was not one of them.
My blood is not pure but I never got the jab.
My blood is not pure but I never got the jab.
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (cS1cw)
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He justifies this by noting that he went to medical school whereas most patients did not, and so he knows the right course of action and they simply don't. When told that this violates the law of informed consent, he snaps back that informed consent is a lie because informed consent is impossible for non-experts. So might as well lie to them or trick them into doing "the right thing," at least according to "the experts."
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The hilarious thing about House is that in every single Episode he is wrong 4 or 5 times before he finally gets it right in the last 10 minutes.
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The hilarious thing about House is that in every single Episode he is wrong 4 or 5 times before he finally gets it right in the last 10 minutes.
Posted by: A good start at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (kwWDM)
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Whatever happened to if it saves just ONE child....
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:28 P
You thought we were serious about that?
Posted by: My Cousin Lefty at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (kgE5c)
If saving "just one" child was in fact the pinnacle of human goodness, that guy who murdered the abortionist would be a hero, right?
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:28 P
You thought we were serious about that?
Posted by: My Cousin Lefty at December 11, 2025 03:39 PM (kgE5c)
If saving "just one" child was in fact the pinnacle of human goodness, that guy who murdered the abortionist would be a hero, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (npFr7)
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Those poor children died for Trump's sins. Pray for them with me tonight at my Church. Afterwards there will be quinoa cookies and rainbow dildos.
Posted by: Destini Z., Dedham, MA at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (qUkBO)
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But without House, would it be House, M.D.?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0sNs1)
The opposite of M.D. House is Full House.
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0sNs1)
The opposite of M.D. House is Full House.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (Vq1pX)
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Now "expert" is a semantically empty vessel too, beyond indicating that you're definitely, without a doubt, being lied to.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (Vq1pX)
"Authorities" is making its way up the same ladder.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:44 PM (Vq1pX)
"Authorities" is making its way up the same ladder.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (fexSQ)
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If it saves just one child only applies if it is a leftist concept to steal freedom or liberty. Otherwise leftists don't give a fuck about a child's life as we all know.
Posted by: Jukin the Dplorable and Totally Unserious at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (xvV+O)
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While traveling for Thanksgiving, I saw, on MSNBC I think it was, an acknowledgment that yes, the COVID vaccine did kill people. At least, that’s what the graphic said, I couldn’t hear what they were saying.
But no worries, because the tradeoff was worth it. The graphic compared the chance of death from COVID (possibly adverse reactions, but I’m pretty sure it was death) with the chance of catching COVID, and there was no contest. The chance of catching COVID swamped the chance of death from the vaccine.
Which leads me to suspect that the chance of death from the vaccine swamps the chance of death from catching COVID.
But no worries, because the tradeoff was worth it. The graphic compared the chance of death from COVID (possibly adverse reactions, but I’m pretty sure it was death) with the chance of catching COVID, and there was no contest. The chance of catching COVID swamped the chance of death from the vaccine.
Which leads me to suspect that the chance of death from the vaccine swamps the chance of death from catching COVID.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (EXyHK)
103
So, what?
So, what?
Posted by: I gotta ask at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (Ij7mQ)
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96 The hilarious thing about House is that in every single Episode he is wrong 4 or 5 times before he finally gets it right in the last 10 minutes.
Posted by: A good start at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (kwWDM)
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*furiously taking notes*
-the writers of Doc Martin
Posted by: A good start at December 11, 2025 03:45 PM (kwWDM)
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*furiously taking notes*
-the writers of Doc Martin
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
One of the main tells there is a psy-op is if the same message is coming through all the media
Another one is if "thought leaders" like movie stars and singers promote the same message
The third tell is if there is cancellation of alternative thoughts or countering arguments - you know, like ace and apparently half the world getting banned from Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
One of the main tells there is a psy-op is if the same message is coming through all the media
Another one is if "thought leaders" like movie stars and singers promote the same message
The third tell is if there is cancellation of alternative thoughts or countering arguments - you know, like ace and apparently half the world getting banned from Twitter.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (rbvCR)
106
Honestly, handing out prescriptions for Quaaludes would have done more good than those shots.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (Wg6v7)
107
House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM
But without House, would it be House, M.D.?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0sNs1)
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* House is brilliant.
* House is thoroughly unlikable.
* That tension made the show.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 03:37 PM
But without House, would it be House, M.D.?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0sNs1)
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* House is brilliant.
* House is thoroughly unlikable.
* That tension made the show.
Posted by: Axeman at December 11, 2025 03:47 PM (krQz2)
108
One single brave bomb-laden jet pilot needs to eliminate the WEF building when everyone is in attendance.
https://tinyurl.com/3ppykh3h
Millions of lives will be saved.
https://tinyurl.com/3ppykh3h
Millions of lives will be saved.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2025 03:47 PM (ZD9Z9)
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Back in the 80s there was a bad swine flu vaccine.
It killed/injured a number of people, but it wasn't obvious at first because no one was collecting this type of data.
60 Minutes of all shows did an investigation and it turned out the FDA had ignored test data and then intentionally didn't follow up on investigating as they should have. Hell they had a letter from one employee to his boss saying they needed to get this shot off the market and when they presented it to the boss he claimed he never got the letter...
This scandal led to VARS since they needed a single entry point for this sort of data to be able to find bad vaccines in the future.
And of course as we know the clot shot ended up having more entries in VARS then all other vaccines over VARS's 30 year history by a factor of more then 1000.
It killed/injured a number of people, but it wasn't obvious at first because no one was collecting this type of data.
60 Minutes of all shows did an investigation and it turned out the FDA had ignored test data and then intentionally didn't follow up on investigating as they should have. Hell they had a letter from one employee to his boss saying they needed to get this shot off the market and when they presented it to the boss he claimed he never got the letter...
This scandal led to VARS since they needed a single entry point for this sort of data to be able to find bad vaccines in the future.
And of course as we know the clot shot ended up having more entries in VARS then all other vaccines over VARS's 30 year history by a factor of more then 1000.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:47 PM (sKqQm)
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> They intentionally buried any incriminating data of micro-clots.
Speaking of clots, anyone remember that conspiracy theory about long, ropy, rubbery clots being found in *all* of the dead people? Whatever happened to that? Did we all just get over it?
Speaking of clots, anyone remember that conspiracy theory about long, ropy, rubbery clots being found in *all* of the dead people? Whatever happened to that? Did we all just get over it?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 03:48 PM (Yp6az)
111
I got the two J&J shots because my husband had to to continue at the bank and my kid had to to serve out his army commission. We'd all go out together in a blaze of glory.
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 03:48 PM (uQzkA)
112
Some people did some things.
In the enthusiasm of the moment, mistakes may have been made.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on and heal.
Some people did some things.
In the enthusiasm of the moment, mistakes may have been made.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on and heal.
Posted by: The CDC and the MSM at December 11, 2025 03:48 PM (0sNs1)
113
House was the only character on that show i didn't want to throw a brick at.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2025 03:48 PM (Vq1pX)
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69 Why oh why did my "#Science" never catch on. Maybe I should have spelled it out? Hashtag Science? No that's not better. It's worse and I'm dumb.
octothorpe science > hashtag science
octothorpe science > hashtag science
Posted by: anachronda at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (sGtp+)
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I'm sooooo glad that my wife and I were able to get religious exemptions for the jab for federal-contractor employees.
We both have health issues. I was afraid that we were both gonna be doomed if we got it.
We both have health issues. I was afraid that we were both gonna be doomed if we got it.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (77rzZ)
116
The biggest psy-op tell was chinese people dropping dead on the street in videos.
Worked on many.
Worked on many.
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (cS1cw)
117
Speaking of CS Lewis, he did a pretty good job of describing the dystopia of the $billion science and bureaucratic alliance we're living under in That Hideous Strength. In that fantasy novel he had an org called NICE, the National Institute for Co-ordinated Experiments. It was staffed by what you would think of today as being in the WEF.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (Dv3i1)
118
Yesterday’s conspiracy = today’s headline.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (9iyS+)
119
Isn't it odd that the solution to war, poverty, death, destruction, illness, depression, disease, and the global climate crisis is always communism?
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (fexSQ)
120
The solution to hating House is not to watch House.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (L3gF5)
121
The chance of catching COVID swamped the chance of death from the vaccine.
This is another game the left plays. If you show the data that the clot shot had *no* reduction in your risk of getting COVID they'll tell you no one ever claimed that it did (yeah ignore Biden saying it on national TV and using it as grounds for his mandates). But then later they'll note that if you don't get your shot you are putting grandma at risk...
This is another game the left plays. If you show the data that the clot shot had *no* reduction in your risk of getting COVID they'll tell you no one ever claimed that it did (yeah ignore Biden saying it on national TV and using it as grounds for his mandates). But then later they'll note that if you don't get your shot you are putting grandma at risk...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (sKqQm)
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I just read a thing linked at Insty where they Dr says:
"But COVID's worse," he added. A case of COVID-19 is about 10 times as likely to induce myocarditis as an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination, Wu said."
But this Dr. clearly failed statistics. The "COVID" cohort here are people who presented at hospital. That is maybe 1% of covid actual cases. So 1/1000 who have covid (by his numbers) have myocarditis. But 1/10 of vaccinated do (his number - "10x worse")
So it appears "Covid's much worse," in reality, the vaccine is a killer. He is looking at the data and LYING.
"But COVID's worse," he added. A case of COVID-19 is about 10 times as likely to induce myocarditis as an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination, Wu said."
But this Dr. clearly failed statistics. The "COVID" cohort here are people who presented at hospital. That is maybe 1% of covid actual cases. So 1/1000 who have covid (by his numbers) have myocarditis. But 1/10 of vaccinated do (his number - "10x worse")
So it appears "Covid's much worse," in reality, the vaccine is a killer. He is looking at the data and LYING.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (Pkr1Y)
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A response from 12 former FDA commissioners
Why is this *always* their playbook?
If Trump said the sun rises in the east, we'd shortly be hearing a statement from 37 former astronomers that he's wrong.
Why is this *always* their playbook?
If Trump said the sun rises in the east, we'd shortly be hearing a statement from 37 former astronomers that he's wrong.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (2ocoG)
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The efficacy of the vaccine is below that of a placebo. And can cause severe problems. You should probably get one.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (n5tGW)
Posted by: Darth Fauci at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (R1cQa)
126
Rats, probably have to work Saturday
I like watching the Army- Navy game
I like watching the Army- Navy game
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (Ia/+0)
127
House was the only character on that show i didn't want to throw a brick at.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Oh, that cute assistant chick doctor in the first couple of seasons was not brick-worthy.
Neither was Sela Ward.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Oh, that cute assistant chick doctor in the first couple of seasons was not brick-worthy.
Neither was Sela Ward.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (77rzZ)
128
The actor who plays House is a Brit who cops a very good American accent. He also was in one of my favorite little miniseries, The Night Manager.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (bNf8H)
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Sanjay Gupta saved my friend's life. She had an unknown flesh eating disease. He treated her and continued to follow up for years, long after she was no longer a patient. Her legs are still scarred from the virus.
Say whatever else you want to say about the man, but as a physician, he is the best of us.
Say whatever else you want to say about the man, but as a physician, he is the best of us.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 11, 2025 03:50 PM (wBaIH)
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It's the most perfect vaccine in the history of vaccines like 2020 was the most clean election in the history of elections.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Knowing that DC was working behind the scenes to recruit BLM as riot army should Trump win in 2020, I can conceive that we might not have seen "actually masks work!" or possibly even the shutdown.
It was mid-2020 when social media started banning people who questioned the legitimacy of mail-in balloting. Even though mass mail-in balloting was not something that was tried and true, and has always had mainline skeptics.
I entertain that the powers that be turned America upside down--creating the closest thing to fascism America has ever seen--to fix the 2020 election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Knowing that DC was working behind the scenes to recruit BLM as riot army should Trump win in 2020, I can conceive that we might not have seen "actually masks work!" or possibly even the shutdown.
It was mid-2020 when social media started banning people who questioned the legitimacy of mail-in balloting. Even though mass mail-in balloting was not something that was tried and true, and has always had mainline skeptics.
I entertain that the powers that be turned America upside down--creating the closest thing to fascism America has ever seen--to fix the 2020 election.
Posted by: Axeman at December 11, 2025 03:51 PM (krQz2)
131
Do not watch House if you are allergic to House.
Posted by: Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy at December 11, 2025 03:51 PM (0sNs1)
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It's not that we killed a few dozen children and probably lots more, but that we had the child's best interest at heart.
Oops, OOPSIE.
Oops, OOPSIE.
Posted by: CDC Medical Experts at December 11, 2025 03:51 PM (xvV+O)
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106 Honestly, handing out prescriptions for Quaaludes would have done more good than those shots.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (Wg6v7)
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The return of medically-prescribed Hitachi Magic Wands would do this country a shit load of good.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:46 PM (Wg6v7)
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The return of medically-prescribed Hitachi Magic Wands would do this country a shit load of good.
Posted by: Howard Johnson at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (3BwY8)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (emBoF)
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"There was no *widespread* fraud" was the biggest tell of all. Well that and throwing the Republicans out and boarding up all the windows and the Brinks trucks full of ballots and the black panthers with night sticks and the vote totals changing overnight.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (fexSQ)
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But you are not the client of "public health officials." The government, specifically the President or the state governor, is their client.
Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM
Exactly, 100% correct.
And these are the "experts" that Jumanji Jackson wants ruling America.
Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM
Exactly, 100% correct.
And these are the "experts" that Jumanji Jackson wants ruling America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (n9ltV)
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Tee hee. I'm still not in jail!
Tee hee. I'm still not in jail!
Posted by: Felon Fauci at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (Ij7mQ)
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I remember during COVID mania most nations intentionally hid their all cause mortality numbers.
But not Scotland for some reason.
The summer they introduced the clot shot their death numbers increased by about a percent.
Now...if the clot shot had any sort of positive effect that makes no sense right? They already had COVID, and it was the summer so this wasn't a bad flu on top of COVID...
But not Scotland for some reason.
The summer they introduced the clot shot their death numbers increased by about a percent.
Now...if the clot shot had any sort of positive effect that makes no sense right? They already had COVID, and it was the summer so this wasn't a bad flu on top of COVID...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (sKqQm)
139
Perry Mason always nailed the perp at x:52.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (W7XSX)
140
We are not mass murderers.... oh wait we are.
Posted by: CDC Medical Experts at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (xvV+O)
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The actor who plays House is a Brit who cops a very good American accent. He also was in one of my favorite little miniseries, The Night Manager.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
Hugh Laurie, otherwise known as Bertie Wooster.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
Hugh Laurie, otherwise known as Bertie Wooster.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (77rzZ)
142
"Justice Department fails to reindict Letitia James for a second time" laughs CNN today. Har! Har!
Yeah, I don't think the DOJ is done yet with CNN's favorite DEI hire. I have a feeling she'll wind up eventually with wearing an orange suit with "County" on the stenciled on her back.
Yeah, I don't think the DOJ is done yet with CNN's favorite DEI hire. I have a feeling she'll wind up eventually with wearing an orange suit with "County" on the stenciled on her back.
Posted by: Boswell at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (NTVPI)
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"the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale"
Sure, Jan. Negative efficacy I am sure was buried in statistical noise.
Sure, Jan. Negative efficacy I am sure was buried in statistical noise.
Posted by: Max Power at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (SwyyQ)
144
The Left's favorite thing in the world is an undisprovable assertion. Well that and little boys.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (fexSQ)
145
Oh hey, a grand jury failed to indict Letitia James again. Glad we have a two-tiered legal system. Really instills faith in the nation.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (JCZqz)
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Prediction: when the next one comes around the same AWFLs and cucks who were scared of the flu will be scared again. 2020 was an experiment both with Covid and BLM riots.
The left learned a lot of valuable lessons. The next time they’ll know how to tweak the message to get even more saps on board with the panic. They have AI now to fine tune all the psychological warfare on us at a micro level.
Yeah I know I’m crazy. Because the government would NEVER do that kind of stuff right?
The left learned a lot of valuable lessons. The next time they’ll know how to tweak the message to get even more saps on board with the panic. They have AI now to fine tune all the psychological warfare on us at a micro level.
Yeah I know I’m crazy. Because the government would NEVER do that kind of stuff right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (9iyS+)
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I do not believe COVID was a Military Biological weapon that leaked from Wuhan.
I am 1,000% in agreement that the COVID Virus came from Gay and Lesbian Green Monkey's having Anal Sex and then bit a Sloth that then was bit by a Fly and that Fly bit a child of color in the Wuhan Market on Saturday June 31, 2020.
Dr. Fauci was Correct You H8ters and Homophobes !!!!
I am 1,000% in agreement that the COVID Virus came from Gay and Lesbian Green Monkey's having Anal Sex and then bit a Sloth that then was bit by a Fly and that Fly bit a child of color in the Wuhan Market on Saturday June 31, 2020.
Dr. Fauci was Correct You H8ters and Homophobes !!!!
Posted by: Jackson at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (J9q9v)
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Can I Still Wear The Mask?
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025
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I saw one of your cohort at the library last night . . . a librarian, no less. She participated in the book club session and I could barely understand what she was saying with her cute blue face diaper on.
Posted by: Karen Muddlumps, democrat scold and do gooder at December 11, 2025
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I saw one of your cohort at the library last night . . . a librarian, no less. She participated in the book club session and I could barely understand what she was saying with her cute blue face diaper on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (wzUl9)
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, House is the worst part of House MD. He makes it almost unwatchable.
Will he ever get clean vs. do something so wrong it outweighs sooper-diagnostician?
Will he hallucinate Cuddy onto the pole again?
Will he ever get clean vs. do something so wrong it outweighs sooper-diagnostician?
Will he hallucinate Cuddy onto the pole again?
Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (FhXTo)
150
Speaking of clots, anyone remember that conspiracy theory about long, ropy, rubbery clots being found in *all* of the dead people? Whatever happened to that? Did we all just get over it?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 03:48 PM (Yp6az)
Nope, still happening, as are the massive blood clots. My brother in law had those last year.
The only therapy I have heard about for preventing or ameliorating it is Nattokinase and Bromelain. It is not "standard of care" so you have to buy it and dose it yourself.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 03:48 PM (Yp6az)
Nope, still happening, as are the massive blood clots. My brother in law had those last year.
The only therapy I have heard about for preventing or ameliorating it is Nattokinase and Bromelain. It is not "standard of care" so you have to buy it and dose it yourself.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (rbvCR)
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Slightly related: I watch "The Office" reruns on occasion. The episodes I hate are the Michael focused ones.
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (cS1cw)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (sKqQm)
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also "public health" is a term much like "inflation reduction act" or "affordable care act."
it's a commie lie.
it's a commie lie.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (emBoF)
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Attitude has been around.
The Scotus decision in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905) by a rather progressive court full of undistinguished corporate lawyers (decided the same year as Lochner) said it was perfectly fine for the State of Mass to order compulsory vaccinations on the explicit idea that the needs of the many outweighed the rights of the individual.
This is despite the fact that Jacobson could demonstrate past bad reactions to the smallpox vaccine as a child in Sweden and he had already been vaccinated against smallpox.
Bad bloviating by progressive justices indicate Jacobson should trust the experts based on experiences in foreign countries.
The Scotus decision in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905) by a rather progressive court full of undistinguished corporate lawyers (decided the same year as Lochner) said it was perfectly fine for the State of Mass to order compulsory vaccinations on the explicit idea that the needs of the many outweighed the rights of the individual.
This is despite the fact that Jacobson could demonstrate past bad reactions to the smallpox vaccine as a child in Sweden and he had already been vaccinated against smallpox.
Bad bloviating by progressive justices indicate Jacobson should trust the experts based on experiences in foreign countries.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (WDjG6)
155
Incidentally, a woman judge is demanding the original Maryland Man be brought back to the country and freed, preferably in her snizz. CNN is ecstatic, of course.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2025 03:54 PM (2ocoG)
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146 Prediction: when the next one comes around the same AWFLs and cucks who were scared of the flu will be scared again. 2020 was an experiment both with Covid and BLM riots.
The left learned a lot of valuable lessons. The next time they’ll know how to tweak the message to get even more saps on board with the panic. They have AI now to fine tune all the psychological warfare on us at a micro level.
Yeah I know I’m crazy. Because the government would NEVER do that kind of stuff right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (9iyS+)
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They've tried like 5 times to ramp up pandemic panic since 2021.
They've all failed. Miserably.
The left learned a lot of valuable lessons. The next time they’ll know how to tweak the message to get even more saps on board with the panic. They have AI now to fine tune all the psychological warfare on us at a micro level.
Yeah I know I’m crazy. Because the government would NEVER do that kind of stuff right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (9iyS+)
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They've tried like 5 times to ramp up pandemic panic since 2021.
They've all failed. Miserably.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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There was never any "informed consent" regarding the risks.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:55 PM (W7XSX)
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every day I thank God I went first. no one else - not even my husband - got that mRNA
they all had cards tho.
they all had cards tho.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 03:55 PM (emBoF)
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My two comments above I posted because I want to show how easy it is to lie with statistics. Especially something as complex as this.
Years ago I thought the truth would eventually be too obvious to hide. (I had same thought about elections)
Now I think it is too late -- they are too committed to the lie and making too much money mRNA vaccines should be banned like orbital lobotomy.
Years ago I thought the truth would eventually be too obvious to hide. (I had same thought about elections)
Now I think it is too late -- they are too committed to the lie and making too much money mRNA vaccines should be banned like orbital lobotomy.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 03:55 PM (Pkr1Y)
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Prediction: when the next one comes around the same AWFLs and cucks who were scared of the flu will be scared again. 2020 was an experiment both with Covid and BLM riots.
The left learned a lot of valuable lessons. The next time they’ll know how to tweak the message to get even more saps on board with the panic. They have AI now to fine tune all the psychological warfare on us at a micro level.
Yeah I know I’m crazy. Because the government would NEVER do that kind of stuff right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025
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When I bring up the craziness now, not a few people don't want to hear it and want to forget all about that time. Probably, I suspect, because they either (a) didn't get their AWFL way, or (b) because they know how stupid they were to fall for it all and don't want to be reminded of that embarrassing fact.
The left learned a lot of valuable lessons. The next time they’ll know how to tweak the message to get even more saps on board with the panic. They have AI now to fine tune all the psychological warfare on us at a micro level.
Yeah I know I’m crazy. Because the government would NEVER do that kind of stuff right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025
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When I bring up the craziness now, not a few people don't want to hear it and want to forget all about that time. Probably, I suspect, because they either (a) didn't get their AWFL way, or (b) because they know how stupid they were to fall for it all and don't want to be reminded of that embarrassing fact.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 03:56 PM (wzUl9)
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I saw one of your cohort at the library last night . . . a librarian, no less. She participated in the book club session and I could barely understand what she was saying with her cute blue face diaper on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (wzUl9)
Constantly interrupt: "Sorry, your voice is muffled. Could you repeat that, please?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (wzUl9)
Constantly interrupt: "Sorry, your voice is muffled. Could you repeat that, please?"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2025 03:56 PM (npFr7)
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Yesterday’s conspiracy = today’s headline.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM
they're not "conspiracy theories"
they're spoiler alerts
Yesterday’s conspiracy = today’s headline.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM
they're not "conspiracy theories"
they're spoiler alerts
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 11, 2025 03:56 PM (tljrc)
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Never got the shot and never got the Wuhan Flu.....
Posted by: Jackson at December 11, 2025 03:56 PM (J9q9v)
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My dad, who has not been taking care of himself, fell and broke his ankle several months ago. He wasn't healing well and he got infections. Doctors finally decided his foot had to go. So now my dad is a pirate.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 03:56 PM (Yp6az)
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155 Incidentally, a woman judge is demanding the original Maryland Man be brought back to the country and freed, preferably in her snizz. CNN is ecstatic, of course.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2025 03:54 PM (2ocoG)
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Apparently, the technicality is that the DOJ didn't produce an order of removal.
However, Garcia's lawyers admitted, in early discussions in the court, that Garcia was under an order of removal.
So, factual assertion that the defense had admitted to the judge is throwing as not established. Which means...appeal and stay and remand (no...the higher courts are not going to remove Xinis, unfortunately).
Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2025 03:54 PM (2ocoG)
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Apparently, the technicality is that the DOJ didn't produce an order of removal.
However, Garcia's lawyers admitted, in early discussions in the court, that Garcia was under an order of removal.
So, factual assertion that the defense had admitted to the judge is throwing as not established. Which means...appeal and stay and remand (no...the higher courts are not going to remove Xinis, unfortunately).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
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House isnt a terrible show. He is a drug addicted sociopath with daddy issues. In real life he be gay, and would have his license suspended. Its watchable for me because the comebacks are pretty good. And Cameron. And Dr cuddy are smoke shows. In a later season cuddy is seen in thigh highs, garter belt etc. I can still see it in my minds eye. Very appeallingly presented. Most of the medicine is reasonably presented. Except for the fact that his team is shown doing procedures surgeries they would never be able to do in real life.
Posted by: A good start at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (kwWDM)
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy."
Posted by: Orwell comma George at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (Ij7mQ)
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And it wasn't all voluntary either.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (W7XSX)
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I do not know if covid was a CCP research Fauci financed bio weapon or just a particularly over hyped flu season propagandized as the end of the world.
No. I'm sure it was an over hyped flu season propagandized as the end of the world.
No. I'm sure it was an over hyped flu season propagandized as the end of the world.
Posted by: Jukin the Dplorable and Totally Unserious at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (xvV+O)
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C. S. Lewis - "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Yadda-yadda-yadda..."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (mlg/3)
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"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy."
Please leave daughter out of it.
Please leave daughter out of it.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (W7XSX)
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155 Incidentally, a woman judge is demanding the original Maryland Man be brought back to the country and freed, preferably in her snizz. CNN is ecstatic, of course.
Posted by: Ian S.
You know how law enforcement shrugs when a squatter takes over a house and changes the locks and the homeowner is stuck for months or longer trying to get courts to kick the squatter out? DoJ should house 'Maryland Man' in this judge's house and give him a pamphlet on squatters rights.
Posted by: Ian S.
You know how law enforcement shrugs when a squatter takes over a house and changes the locks and the homeowner is stuck for months or longer trying to get courts to kick the squatter out? DoJ should house 'Maryland Man' in this judge's house and give him a pamphlet on squatters rights.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM (Dv3i1)
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131 Do not watch House if you are allergic to House.
Posted by: Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy
As long as I can listen to house music, while building THIS HOUSE (flexes). And what kind of geezer listens to a doctor called "bones"? Someone who needs Viagra? That's getting DANGEROUSLY close to "boner", which is the last thing I want to see, or think about, when a dude doctor is about to examine me.
Posted by: Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy
As long as I can listen to house music, while building THIS HOUSE (flexes). And what kind of geezer listens to a doctor called "bones"? Someone who needs Viagra? That's getting DANGEROUSLY close to "boner", which is the last thing I want to see, or think about, when a dude doctor is about to examine me.
Posted by: The Brofessor, Don Mazzetti at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (JCZqz)
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The actor who plays House is a Brit who cops a very good American accent. He also was in one of my favorite little miniseries, The Night Manager.
Ahem.
Ahem.
Posted by: Blackadder! at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (xTIDn)
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It will take decades for public health authorities to regain widespread trust.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (rJ48h)
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Predictable all along Maryland Man would never be deported.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (9iyS+)
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164 My dad, who has not been taking care of himself, fell and broke his ankle several months ago. He wasn't healing well and he got infections. Doctors finally decided his foot had to go. So now my dad is a pirate.
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A peg leg and a cutlass impresses a lot of chicks. Does he have both eyes?
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A peg leg and a cutlass impresses a lot of chicks. Does he have both eyes?
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (Wg6v7)
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> I saw one of your cohort at the library last night . . . a librarian, no less. She participated in the book club session and I could barely understand what she was saying with her cute blue face diaper on.
There's a woman at my church who still has her N95 every single week.
There's a woman at my church who still has her N95 every single week.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (Yp6az)
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 03:58 PM (g47mK)
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They've tried like 5 times to ramp up pandemic panic since 2021.
They've all failed. Miserably.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
The bioweapons freezers are stacked deep, my friend. We will hit the Lotto one day. The Twelfth Monkey will come.
They've all failed. Miserably.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
The bioweapons freezers are stacked deep, my friend. We will hit the Lotto one day. The Twelfth Monkey will come.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 03:59 PM (rbvCR)
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115 I'm sooooo glad that my wife and I were able to get religious exemptions for the jab for federal-contractor employees.
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I can never understand why there is a religious exemption but not a science-based exemption.
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I can never understand why there is a religious exemption but not a science-based exemption.
Posted by: Destini Z., Dedham, MA at December 11, 2025 03:59 PM (qUkBO)
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> A peg leg and a cutlass impresses a lot of chicks. Does he have both eyes?
Yes, but that can be remedied.
Yes, but that can be remedied.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 03:59 PM (Yp6az)
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Remember how when COVID was dying down the FNM tried to make moneypox a thing?
And even kids could get it!
But then it leaked out the child who got it apparently got it from his two gay dads who also spread it to the dog.
And...the story quickly left the FNM...
And even kids could get it!
But then it leaked out the child who got it apparently got it from his two gay dads who also spread it to the dog.
And...the story quickly left the FNM...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 03:59 PM (sKqQm)
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Constantly interrupt: "Sorry, your voice is muffled. Could you repeat that, please?"
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I have to do that anyways. Maybe I should get my hearing checked.
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I have to do that anyways. Maybe I should get my hearing checked.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 04:00 PM (Dv3i1)
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> I can never understand why there is a religious exemption but not a science-based exemption.
Because Fauci was the SCIENCE, duh.
Because Fauci was the SCIENCE, duh.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 04:00 PM (Yp6az)
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If your adverse reaction to House lasts longer than four hours, see Dr. House for a lupus test.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 11, 2025 04:00 PM (0sNs1)
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So wait. The vax killed more kids than the coof?
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Suprise, surprise, surprise!
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Suprise, surprise, surprise!
Posted by: Gomer Fauci at December 11, 2025 04:00 PM (v0R5T)
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The actor who plays House is a Brit who cops a very good American accent. He also was in one of my favorite little miniseries, The Night Manager.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
Hugh Laurie, otherwise known as Bertie Wooster.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025
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He was also in the remake of Flight of the Phoenix. He says that he recorded his audition by phone while he was on location with the film, and was positive the show would never sell because the main character was so unlikable.
Years before, too, he was the luckless but memorable airline passenger who had to listen to Rachel natter on about her relationship to Ross in an episode of Friends. ("You're a horrible person, and furthermore, it's quite obvious you two *were* 'on a break'!")
Posted by: Frasier Crane
Hugh Laurie, otherwise known as Bertie Wooster.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025
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He was also in the remake of Flight of the Phoenix. He says that he recorded his audition by phone while he was on location with the film, and was positive the show would never sell because the main character was so unlikable.
Years before, too, he was the luckless but memorable airline passenger who had to listen to Rachel natter on about her relationship to Ross in an episode of Friends. ("You're a horrible person, and furthermore, it's quite obvious you two *were* 'on a break'!")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:00 PM (wzUl9)
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Another reason they can not admit the vaccine was a mistake is that they used the "expert" lie to push it.
If they ever admit that "experts" are fallible (and corrupt) they lose it all. This is existential for them.
If they ever admit that "experts" are fallible (and corrupt) they lose it all. This is existential for them.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (Pkr1Y)
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Trump is not a doctor and is a germophobe. I don’t know what he knew (and neither do you). COVID came out of a PRC bio-weapons lab and might have been much worse. It was NOT an influenza virus, but in retrospect was comparable to a bad, but not very bad, flu epidemic. Think 1968 flu not 1918. The measures taken against it were nonsense and proven not to work by measures taken against the Spanish Flu of 1918-1919. Isolation, masking, and distancing were tried then and made no difference. They didn’t work this time either. I think Trump was manipulated by his advisors like Fauci and Birx, but they, Fauci and Birx, were in on the scam. Frankly, I think Trump was too trusting of people like them and got fooled into “solving” the problem with a dubious “vaccine” technology: the MRNA approach. Again I think Trump didn’t know how dangerous that approach is: he just didn’t know and trusted his “experts” too much.
Cont. below.
Cont. below.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (8lgVD)
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Incidentally, a woman judge is demanding the original Maryland
Man....
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I may have mentioned in tbe past that you would not believe the ridiculousness of tbe judges i have dealt with. Since Trumps re election, I no longer say that, because its out in the open now. There are many judges who do whatever they feel like. That is therw own personal rule of law what do i feel like and they make up the rationale after.
Man....
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I may have mentioned in tbe past that you would not believe the ridiculousness of tbe judges i have dealt with. Since Trumps re election, I no longer say that, because its out in the open now. There are many judges who do whatever they feel like. That is therw own personal rule of law what do i feel like and they make up the rationale after.
Posted by: A good start at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (kwWDM)
192
They picked the wrong flu strains for this years vax. Again.
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (uQzkA)
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Tell the judge to send U.S. Marshalls.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (W7XSX)
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Cont.
Trump was naive, but well intentioned. He never called for a national shut-down: that was due to state and community leaders. The mandatory “vaccination” occurred under Biden not Trump. It was not required in my state, and I worked for the state: I never took it. The MRNA based “vaccine” should be outlawed. Some countries are moving in that direction. That is one thing I will hold against Trump. He doesn’t want to admit how badly he was fooled. Let’s hope that once burnt, twice shy applies here. I know I will never blindly accept vaccination again, but will research what it is first. Basically do not accept any MRNA-based shot.
Trump was naive, but well intentioned. He never called for a national shut-down: that was due to state and community leaders. The mandatory “vaccination” occurred under Biden not Trump. It was not required in my state, and I worked for the state: I never took it. The MRNA based “vaccine” should be outlawed. Some countries are moving in that direction. That is one thing I will hold against Trump. He doesn’t want to admit how badly he was fooled. Let’s hope that once burnt, twice shy applies here. I know I will never blindly accept vaccination again, but will research what it is first. Basically do not accept any MRNA-based shot.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (8lgVD)
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189 Another reason they can not admit the vaccine was a mistake is that they used the "expert" lie to push it.
If they ever admit that "experts" are fallible (and corrupt) they lose it all. This is existential for them.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (Pkr1Y)
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Oh, it's the admission that's going to destroy their reputation, is it?
189 Another reason they can not admit the vaccine was a mistake is that they used the "expert" lie to push it.
If they ever admit that "experts" are fallible (and corrupt) they lose it all. This is existential for them.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (Pkr1Y)
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Oh, it's the admission that's going to destroy their reputation, is it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
196
Covid was biological warfare waged by a government on their own citizens.
Posted by: Eromero at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM (o2ZRX)
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Was COVID designed to depopulate the PRC because of over a Billion People and food shortages ?????
But they screwed up and it spread to the West before a PRC Vaccine Blackmail Plan could be introduced..???
But they screwed up and it spread to the West before a PRC Vaccine Blackmail Plan could be introduced..???
Posted by: Jackson at December 11, 2025 04:02 PM (J9q9v)
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They picked the wrong flu strains for this years vax. Again.
The actual effectiveness of the flu vaccine is pretty low.
Even if they pick the correct variant coming out of China it will have mutated significantly by the time it gets to you.
The real answer here would be to blockade China or at least force them to change their farming habits but...that's not going to happen
The actual effectiveness of the flu vaccine is pretty low.
Even if they pick the correct variant coming out of China it will have mutated significantly by the time it gets to you.
The real answer here would be to blockade China or at least force them to change their farming habits but...that's not going to happen
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 04:02 PM (sKqQm)
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Funny but "CDC Guidelines" quickly became many companies "Mandatory Policies."
Posted by: Didja notice? at December 11, 2025 04:02 PM (Ij7mQ)
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I saw one of your cohort at the library last night . . . a librarian, no less. She participated in the book club session and I could barely understand what she was saying with her cute blue face diaper on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I had that problem a lot during Covid, as I am slightly deaf (though my wife might say more than "slightly"). I had to go to a FedEx office and there was this girl behind the counter, from which I had to stand six feet away, of course. The girl was a soft speaker anyway, but with the face diaper on I couldn't hear a word she was saying. Finally, I just marched up to the counter, and told her I couldn't hear her. That was the only way I was able to hear her and get done what I was there to do.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I had that problem a lot during Covid, as I am slightly deaf (though my wife might say more than "slightly"). I had to go to a FedEx office and there was this girl behind the counter, from which I had to stand six feet away, of course. The girl was a soft speaker anyway, but with the face diaper on I couldn't hear a word she was saying. Finally, I just marched up to the counter, and told her I couldn't hear her. That was the only way I was able to hear her and get done what I was there to do.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:03 PM (77rzZ)
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They changed the definition of 'vaccine' to fit the clot shot.
Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2025 04:03 PM (Q+gd/)
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they ever admit that "experts" are fallible (and corrupt) they lose it all. This is existential for them.
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Pete Buutigegge is an expert, but RFK is not. They dont argue from principle. It just what do we want and how do we get it.
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Pete Buutigegge is an expert, but RFK is not. They dont argue from principle. It just what do we want and how do we get it.
Posted by: A good start at December 11, 2025 04:03 PM (kwWDM)
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I saw one of your cohort at the library last night . . . a librarian, no less. She participated in the book club session and I could barely understand what she was saying with her cute blue face diaper on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (wzUl9)
Constantly interrupt: "Sorry, your voice is muffled. Could you repeat that, please?"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2025
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I've done that with clerks at stores who insist on strapping that Badge of Submission on. Their managers ought to have told them, "Leave it at home, or stay at home without pay. Your choice.")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 03:53 PM (wzUl9)
Constantly interrupt: "Sorry, your voice is muffled. Could you repeat that, please?"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2025
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I've done that with clerks at stores who insist on strapping that Badge of Submission on. Their managers ought to have told them, "Leave it at home, or stay at home without pay. Your choice.")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:03 PM (wzUl9)
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196 Covid was biological warfare waged by a government on their own citizens.
Posted by: Eromero
Seeing as how they are also importing 3rd world rapists, murderers, welfare fraudsters and other assorted criminals, you'd think maybe the people would wake up to the fact their government doesn't like them very much.
Posted by: Eromero
Seeing as how they are also importing 3rd world rapists, murderers, welfare fraudsters and other assorted criminals, you'd think maybe the people would wake up to the fact their government doesn't like them very much.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 04:04 PM (Dv3i1)
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196 Covid was biological warfare waged by a government on their own citizens.
Posted by: Eromero
The US or Chinese government?
Yes.
Posted by: Eromero
The US or Chinese government?
Yes.
Posted by: Tinfoil Hat Man at December 11, 2025 04:04 PM (JCZqz)
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Totally OT:
Robert Pattinson seems to like to be in the center of Love Triangles.
Poor Tom Holland.
Short Kings get no respect.
Robert Pattinson seems to like to be in the center of Love Triangles.
Poor Tom Holland.
Short Kings get no respect.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2025 04:04 PM (XV/Pl)
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China produced their own COVID vaccine. Unlike ours it used a dead COVID viron as traditional vaccines do.
My understanding is that it provided little to no actual resistance to COVID as the disease mutates too quickly for a standard vaccine to work and China *knew* this when they mandated domestically.
But they apparently felt a placebo was a better choice then the clot shot.
My understanding is that it provided little to no actual resistance to COVID as the disease mutates too quickly for a standard vaccine to work and China *knew* this when they mandated domestically.
But they apparently felt a placebo was a better choice then the clot shot.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 11, 2025 04:04 PM (sKqQm)
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>> They picked the wrong flu strains for this years vax.
The flu shot is basically worthless. Not much effect on mortality and morbidity. But it's not dangerous.
The flu shot is basically worthless. Not much effect on mortality and morbidity. But it's not dangerous.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (w6EFb)
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Still waiting in pre-op. Hopefully they will light this candle soon....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (gXoeb)
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205 196 Covid was biological warfare waged by a government on their own citizens.
Posted by: Eromero
The US or Chinese government?
Yes.
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Which tells you why they invested so heavily in 'Russian Collusion' meme.
Posted by: Eromero
The US or Chinese government?
Yes.
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Which tells you why they invested so heavily in 'Russian Collusion' meme.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (Wg6v7)
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Was that wrong? Should we not have done that?
Posted by: Big Pharma at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (Ij7mQ)
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Covid was designed to subjugate the world.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (fexSQ)
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I think that if the left tries the covid scam again there will be expert and government personnel killings and lots of them. So they are a little scared of that.
Posted by: Jukin the Dplorable and Totally Unserious at December 11, 2025 04:06 PM (xvV+O)
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I can never understand why there is a religious exemption but not a science-based exemption.
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Because Fauci was the SCIENCE, duh.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025
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I'm pleased there was the former, and that my employers accepted mine. Otherwise I might have been retired in late 2021 with less income in my pocket.
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Because Fauci was the SCIENCE, duh.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025
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I'm pleased there was the former, and that my employers accepted mine. Otherwise I might have been retired in late 2021 with less income in my pocket.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:06 PM (wzUl9)
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I can never understand why there is a religious exemption but not a science-based exemption.
Posted by: Destini Z
Depends on state laws in many cases. Public Health is a police power of state governments under the 10th Amendment. But overlaid is the complex regulations of Federal grant and health care programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and Tricare among others.
The whole edifice of mandatory vaccinations rests on the very old Jacobson v. Mass case of 1905 where an individual challenged Mass law that ignored the rights of individuals altogether to avoid the vaccination but fined non-compliers with a $5 penalty. Jacobson sued alleging violations of his federally protected civil rights because he had been vaccinated as a child for smallpox in Sweden and sustained a vaccination injury. His argument thus that he was exempt from Mass law because of prior vaccination and individual heightened risk from a new one was brushed aside by the Mass Sup. Ct.
US Scotus allowed Mass's fine to stand based on its perverted trust in experts and authority.
Continued.
Posted by: Destini Z
Depends on state laws in many cases. Public Health is a police power of state governments under the 10th Amendment. But overlaid is the complex regulations of Federal grant and health care programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and Tricare among others.
The whole edifice of mandatory vaccinations rests on the very old Jacobson v. Mass case of 1905 where an individual challenged Mass law that ignored the rights of individuals altogether to avoid the vaccination but fined non-compliers with a $5 penalty. Jacobson sued alleging violations of his federally protected civil rights because he had been vaccinated as a child for smallpox in Sweden and sustained a vaccination injury. His argument thus that he was exempt from Mass law because of prior vaccination and individual heightened risk from a new one was brushed aside by the Mass Sup. Ct.
US Scotus allowed Mass's fine to stand based on its perverted trust in experts and authority.
Continued.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:06 PM (WDjG6)
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The flu shot is basically worthless. Not much effect on mortality and morbidity. But it's not dangerous.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (w6EFb)
depending on the study you look at, historically the flu vaccine can increase the likelihood of contracting the flu.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 04:05 PM (w6EFb)
depending on the study you look at, historically the flu vaccine can increase the likelihood of contracting the flu.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 04:07 PM (rbvCR)
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Still waiting in pre-op. Hopefully they will light this candle soon....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
Best wishes on your surgery, Dear Lady. Prayer up.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
Best wishes on your surgery, Dear Lady. Prayer up.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:07 PM (77rzZ)
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Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 03:57 PM
👍
Getting tired of the fkin Comassar Judges
👍
Getting tired of the fkin Comassar Judges
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2025 04:07 PM (Ia/+0)
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The solution to hating House is not to watch House.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (L3gF5)
I'm pretty well convinced that the popularity of House had more to do with the audience wanting to see Cuddy and Thirteen get freakysexy.
The solution to hating House is not to watch House.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 11, 2025 03:49 PM (L3gF5)
I'm pretty well convinced that the popularity of House had more to do with the audience wanting to see Cuddy and Thirteen get freakysexy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2025 04:07 PM (y9nCu)
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>>>House isnt a terrible show. He is a drug addicted sociopath with daddy issues. In real life he be gay, and would have his license suspended. Its watchable for me because the comebacks are pretty good. And Cameron. And Dr cuddy are smoke shows. In a later season cuddy is seen in thigh highs, garter belt etc. I can still see it in my minds eye. Very appeallingly presented. Most of the medicine is reasonably presented. Except for the fact that his team is shown doing procedures surgeries they would never be able to do in real life.
it's an okay show but House is the worst part of it. He just causes problems for everyone, including himself. I don't really care when he sabotages himself but when he sabotages his friends and Cuddy, it pisses me off.
it's an okay show but House is the worst part of it. He just causes problems for everyone, including himself. I don't really care when he sabotages himself but when he sabotages his friends and Cuddy, it pisses me off.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (1wjle)
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depending on the study you look at, historically the flu vaccine can increase the likelihood of contracting the flu.
Posted by: Kindltot
My wife got the flu from the vaccine one year. Never again.
Posted by: Kindltot
My wife got the flu from the vaccine one year. Never again.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)
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I maintain the plan was to release covid during *Hillary's* reelection campaign in 2020, to stop anyone from gathering, make it automatic, and to let her help run the West's lockdown suicide.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (fexSQ)
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I got the COVID Vaccine every week and look at me. I am mentally fit and still serving as the President of Star Trek Federation of Planets.
Posted by: Joe Biden at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (J9q9v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (pkeXY)
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220 it's an okay show but House is the worst part of it. He just causes problems for everyone, including himself. I don't really care when he sabotages himself but when he sabotages his friends and Cuddy, it pisses me off.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (1wjle)
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George Bailey never sabotaged anyone else.
Posted by: ace at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (1wjle)
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George Bailey never sabotaged anyone else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)
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I had to go to a FedEx office and there was this girl behind the counter, from which I had to stand six feet away, of course. The girl was a soft speaker anyway, but with the face diaper on I couldn't hear a word she was saying. Finally, I just marched up to the counter, and told her I couldn't hear her. That was the only way I was able to hear her and get done what I was there to do.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025
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I did that a couple of times. "There's something in front of your mouth; I can't understand you." And invariably, they would violate their own silly protocol by pulling the thing down two inches and speaking properly, then shoving it back into place. Heh.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025
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I did that a couple of times. "There's something in front of your mouth; I can't understand you." And invariably, they would violate their own silly protocol by pulling the thing down two inches and speaking properly, then shoving it back into place. Heh.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (wzUl9)
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In that same year, however, the progressive jurists on Scotus were perfectly fine with holding a) that an individual could demand an individual hearing based on individual circumstances as to an improvement district tax, and b) that the state of NY could not mandate health and safety labor laws because individuals had a 14th Amendment based right to contract with employers that superceded such legislation.
Scotus got it right in 1/3 of the cases that year.
Scotus got it right in 1/3 of the cases that year.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (WDjG6)
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I loved the Covid years. I got out of doing all the shit I couldn't get out of doing years before: weddings, baby showers, dinner parties, etc. All I had to do was say my throat felt a little scratchy and I thought it wise to stay home.
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (uQzkA)
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Praying Teresa
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (fexSQ)
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I pray that God has a bigger and better imagination than I do, because I can't think of enough bad things to happen to Fauci in the afterlife.
Posted by: Wenda at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (SmHt8)
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George Bailey never sabotaged anyone else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mirror bearded George Bailey though was a fiend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mirror bearded George Bailey though was a fiend.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
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There was the option of a medical exemption, but to back that up you basically had to turn over all your medical history to your employer. The religious exemption was shorter and sweeter.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (77rzZ)
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I'm pretty well convinced that the popularity of House had more to do with the audience wanting to see Cuddy and Thirteen get freakysexy.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2025
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Part of it, and Cameron too. But the show also had snappy dialog and Laurie's astonishing performance.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2025
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Part of it, and Cameron too. But the show also had snappy dialog and Laurie's astonishing performance.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (wzUl9)
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I loved the Covid years. I got out of doing all the shit I couldn't get out of doing years before: weddings, baby showers, dinner parties, etc. All I had to do was say my throat felt a little scratchy and I thought it wise to stay home.
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (uQzkA)
It still works. All the libs have to hear is you have a stuffy nose and they hide under their bed for days.
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (uQzkA)
It still works. All the libs have to hear is you have a stuffy nose and they hide under their bed for days.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (fexSQ)
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231 George Bailey never sabotaged anyone else.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mirror bearded George Bailey though was a fiend.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
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He knew his way around an Agonizer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Mirror bearded George Bailey though was a fiend.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
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He knew his way around an Agonizer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Public health officials focus on what is "statistically" beneficial for society. not what is beneficial to you.
The scales fell from my eyes, when public health officials started diving into gun control and other issues as "health" issues.
The scales fell from my eyes, when public health officials started diving into gun control and other issues as "health" issues.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (gDhA9)
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But children did not need the "vaccines," meaning that the risks of mandating it to them -- and the deaths that then occurred -- were absolutely unnecessary.
Getting the "vaccines" mandated for children WAS absolutely necessary for the Deep State, because then the "vaccine" is no longer under only Emergency Use Authorization. If I remember correctly, vaccine companies could be sued for health issues and deaths if the "vaccine" remained on the EUA.
But once the "vaccine" was mandated for children, it was no longer under EUA and no one could sue for any harm or death that came from the "vaccine". There was complete immunity for the government and the drug companies.
That was the entire reason the Deep State pushed for mandating it for children who didn't need it... to prevent lawsuits for all the harm and death it caused.
Getting the "vaccines" mandated for children WAS absolutely necessary for the Deep State, because then the "vaccine" is no longer under only Emergency Use Authorization. If I remember correctly, vaccine companies could be sued for health issues and deaths if the "vaccine" remained on the EUA.
But once the "vaccine" was mandated for children, it was no longer under EUA and no one could sue for any harm or death that came from the "vaccine". There was complete immunity for the government and the drug companies.
That was the entire reason the Deep State pushed for mandating it for children who didn't need it... to prevent lawsuits for all the harm and death it caused.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:11 PM (P5BPp)
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I loved the Covid years. I got out of doing all the shit I couldn't get out of doing years before: weddings, baby showers, dinner parties, etc. All I had to do was say my throat felt a little scratchy and I thought it wise to stay home.
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (uQzkA)
You had the power all along, my dear!
Posted by: NCKate at December 11, 2025 04:09 PM (uQzkA)
You had the power all along, my dear!
Posted by: Glenda the Good Witch at December 11, 2025 04:12 PM (rbvCR)
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Those twelve guys in the lab coats behind Obama. Those are the experts.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:12 PM (fexSQ)
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>> Public health officials focus on what is "statistically" beneficial for society. not what is beneficial to you.
Yes. Those are two different things.
And know, it's now even what is statistically beneficial for the collective population, but a smaller subset of that population. Pharma, etc.
Yes. Those are two different things.
And know, it's now even what is statistically beneficial for the collective population, but a smaller subset of that population. Pharma, etc.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 04:12 PM (w6EFb)
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Mirror bearded George Bailey though was a fiend.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
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He knew his way around an Agonizer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Oh my! Pics?!??!
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
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He knew his way around an Agonizer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Oh my! Pics?!??!
Posted by: Sam Brinton at December 11, 2025 04:12 PM (JCZqz)
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The most unbelievable thing about House was how in nearly every episode he would have his team commit breaking and entering into the patient's house to look for clues.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)
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Who killed Bob Saget?
Posted by: Full Diaper at December 11, 2025 04:13 PM (oftw2)
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Mirror bearded George Bailey though was a fiend.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
Mirror bearded George Bailey was dead-set against fractional reserve banking, though.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:10 PM (WDjG6)
Mirror bearded George Bailey was dead-set against fractional reserve banking, though.
Posted by: Glenda the Good Witch at December 11, 2025 04:13 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 11, 2025 04:13 PM (Wg6v7)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2025 04:14 PM (XV/Pl)
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Expert oopsies!!!
FDA approved. Marketed. Then pulled due to oops!
Thalidomide, phenylpropanolamine, Vioxx, Meridia, Avandia, Darvon, Darvocet, Belviq, Zantac.
FDA approved. Marketed. Then pulled due to oops!
Thalidomide, phenylpropanolamine, Vioxx, Meridia, Avandia, Darvon, Darvocet, Belviq, Zantac.
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025 04:14 PM (kwWDM)
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. . . It was NOT an influenza virus, but in retrospect was comparable to a bad, but not very bad, flu epidemic. Think 1968 flu not 1918. The measures taken against it were nonsense and proven not to work by measures taken against the Spanish Flu of 1918-1919. Isolation, masking, and distancing were tried then and made no difference. They didn’t work this time either. . . .
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025
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I remember the 1968 outbreak. No schools got closed. When I got sick with it, I was out from school for several weeks, but when I came back nobody suggested I had to be in isolation or distanced. It would have been insane. As it was in 2020-22.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025
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I remember the 1968 outbreak. No schools got closed. When I got sick with it, I was out from school for several weeks, but when I came back nobody suggested I had to be in isolation or distanced. It would have been insane. As it was in 2020-22.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:14 PM (wzUl9)
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"The idea that mRNA-based shots have, tragically, killed a very small number.."
Tragically skilled a small number.....
What would a large number invoke?????
Tragically skilled a small number.....
What would a large number invoke?????
Posted by: James Lewis at December 11, 2025 04:14 PM (TMfHK)
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stupid sock . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 04:15 PM (rbvCR)
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What would a large number invoke?????
Posted by: James Lewis at December 11, 2025 04:14 PM (TMfHK)
statistics.
Posted by: James Lewis at December 11, 2025 04:14 PM (TMfHK)
statistics.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 04:15 PM (rbvCR)
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Trust the experts.
Dr. Howard
Dr. Fine
Dr. Howard
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (pkeXY)
I haz sadz.
Trust the experts.
Dr. Howard
Dr. Fine
Dr. Howard
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 11, 2025 04:08 PM (pkeXY)
I haz sadz.
Posted by: Nick Riviera at December 11, 2025 04:16 PM (L3gF5)
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Public health officials focus on what is "statistically" beneficial for society. not what is beneficial to you.
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Sure they do.
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Sure they do.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:16 PM (fexSQ)
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You gotta admit. I was one pretty damn intelligent virus. I knew if you were walking into a restaurant or seated at a booth. I knew which way you were walking in a grocery store aisle.
Hell, I even knew when you were in a National Park after midnight.
Hell, I even knew when you were in a National Park after midnight.
Posted by: COVID-19 at December 11, 2025 04:16 PM (Ij7mQ)
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Who killed Bob Saget?
Posted by: Full Diaper at December 11, 2025 04:13 PM (oftw2)
Who killed Bob Crane?
Posted by: Full Diaper at December 11, 2025 04:13 PM (oftw2)
Who killed Bob Crane?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 04:16 PM (rbvCR)
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Expert oopsies!!!
FDA approved. Marketed. Then pulled due to oops!
Thalidomide, phenylpropanolamine, Vioxx, Meridia, Avandia, Darvon, Darvocet, Belviq, Zantac.
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025
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I once ('5-'96) had a Rx for headache called Seldane. It worked, but that might have been partly because it was loaded with caffeine. No-Doz might have worked as well. But Seldane got pulled from the market -- I don't recall why.
FDA approved. Marketed. Then pulled due to oops!
Thalidomide, phenylpropanolamine, Vioxx, Meridia, Avandia, Darvon, Darvocet, Belviq, Zantac.
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025
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I once ('5-'96) had a Rx for headache called Seldane. It worked, but that might have been partly because it was loaded with caffeine. No-Doz might have worked as well. But Seldane got pulled from the market -- I don't recall why.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9)
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Thalidomide wasn't approved here. Someone at the FDA whose name escapes stopped it, as there wasn't enough safety data. That spared us compared to Europe and others. It was given here, I think, but not as much as it would've been if the FDA at the time approved it.
Thalidomide wasn't approved here. Someone at the FDA whose name escapes stopped it, as there wasn't enough safety data. That spared us compared to Europe and others. It was given here, I think, but not as much as it would've been if the FDA at the time approved it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 04:17 PM (w6EFb)
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Also it knew when you were eating, or just breathing.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:17 PM (fexSQ)
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The actor who plays House is a Brit who cops a very good American accent. He also was in one of my favorite little miniseries, The Night Manager.
Posted by: Frasier Crane
Hugh Laurie, otherwise known as Bertie Wooster.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM
Hugh Laurie had a great scene in "Friends" with Jennifer Aniston.
Rachel is flying to England to break-up Ross's wedding and Hugh Laurie's character tells her how horrible and selfish a person she is for doing so.
Then drops the mic by telling her that he sides with Ross that they were definitely "on a break".
YouTube: https://bit.ly/3Mw0Rtg
Posted by: Frasier Crane
Hugh Laurie, otherwise known as Bertie Wooster.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM
Hugh Laurie had a great scene in "Friends" with Jennifer Aniston.
Rachel is flying to England to break-up Ross's wedding and Hugh Laurie's character tells her how horrible and selfish a person she is for doing so.
Then drops the mic by telling her that he sides with Ross that they were definitely "on a break".
YouTube: https://bit.ly/3Mw0Rtg
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:18 PM (P5BPp)
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Covid knew when you'd been naughty and when you'd been nice
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2025 04:18 PM (fexSQ)
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Timpon Walz warns Minnesotans not to elect a con man.
Tim Walz
@Tim_Walz
We’ve seen what happens when we elect a con man to the highest office in America. We can’t let it happen here in Minnesota.
Tim Walz
@Tim_Walz
We’ve seen what happens when we elect a con man to the highest office in America. We can’t let it happen here in Minnesota.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 11, 2025 04:19 PM (L/fGl)
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Seldane worked, and it didn't make me drowsy.
It did make my heart pound at times, though.
It did make my heart pound at times, though.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025 04:19 PM (rbvCR)
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If they ever admit that "experts" are fallible (and corrupt) they lose it all. This is existential for them.
Posted by: bob
Doesn't matter how you get there. We're already there.
I agree they can't admit it. But that makes them look even worse.
Posted by: bob
Doesn't matter how you get there. We're already there.
I agree they can't admit it. But that makes them look even worse.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 11, 2025 04:19 PM (ItWcy)
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I also knew when you were at a BLM rally or an evil church worship service singing those dangerous hymns.
Posted by: COVID-19 at December 11, 2025 04:20 PM (3rtaB)
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If it had not been for this place and all of you, I might have succumbed to some of the mental pressure and allowed them to inject me at least once. But the open-eyed people here led me to do some research beyond the constant drumbeat of the "news," and for that I am grateful!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:20 PM (wzUl9)
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I quit trying to follow all the Real Statisticians, and Real Doctors. But I've seen many legit sounding claims that the fake vax killed many more than it saved. The damage was rather permanent, and the "excess deaths" are many.
And many Covid deaths were not Covid deaths, but maybe they died With Covid, and quite possibly the fake vax gave them the Covid (but then the fake vax damaged their heart, or it flared up some old cancer, or killed by other means).
The shutdowns and ventilators and wrong approach killed many, most more than anything else. But Fauci and his gang got their bonuses ... did we ever find out exactly how much all those goons made from Big Pharma kickbacks?
And many Covid deaths were not Covid deaths, but maybe they died With Covid, and quite possibly the fake vax gave them the Covid (but then the fake vax damaged their heart, or it flared up some old cancer, or killed by other means).
The shutdowns and ventilators and wrong approach killed many, most more than anything else. But Fauci and his gang got their bonuses ... did we ever find out exactly how much all those goons made from Big Pharma kickbacks?
Posted by: illiniwek at December 11, 2025 04:20 PM (vbXSk)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 11, 2025 04:19 PM (L/fGl)
Is Tim Walz even up for election next year?
Is Tim Walz even up for election next year?
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I once ('5-'96) had a Rx for headache called Seldane. It worked, but that might have been partly because it was loaded with caffeine. No-Doz might have worked as well. But Seldane got pulled from the market -- I don't recall why.
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Voluntarily pulled. FDA told company to do it because they were going to announce if you drank grapefruit juice or took certain antibiotics with it it could cause fatal arrythmia....
I once ('5-'96) had a Rx for headache called Seldane. It worked, but that might have been partly because it was loaded with caffeine. No-Doz might have worked as well. But Seldane got pulled from the market -- I don't recall why.
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Voluntarily pulled. FDA told company to do it because they were going to announce if you drank grapefruit juice or took certain antibiotics with it it could cause fatal arrythmia....
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025 04:21 PM (kwWDM)
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Just saw the trailer for Supergirl, that thing is going to tank so hard it's going to probably take out Gunn.
Looking forward to Schneiderverse 2.0.
Looking forward to Schneiderverse 2.0.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2025 04:21 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:21 PM (WDjG6)
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Think 1968 flu not 1918. The measures taken against it were nonsense and proven not to work by measures taken against the Spanish Flu of 1918-1919. Isolation, masking, and distancing were tried then and made no difference. They didn’t work this time either. I think Trump was manipulated by his advisors like Fauci and Birx, but they, Fauci and Birx, were in on the scam.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM
Not only did masking not work during the Spanish Flu, Fauci himself wrote a paper which essentially stated that more people died of bacterial pneumonia caused from wearing masks and spreading bacteria than people died of Spanish Flu.
So Fauci knew this from his own research and still pushed mask-wearing. It was an op. A WEF and Deep State op. From the beginning.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025 04:01 PM
Not only did masking not work during the Spanish Flu, Fauci himself wrote a paper which essentially stated that more people died of bacterial pneumonia caused from wearing masks and spreading bacteria than people died of Spanish Flu.
So Fauci knew this from his own research and still pushed mask-wearing. It was an op. A WEF and Deep State op. From the beginning.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:22 PM (P5BPp)
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Voluntarily pulled. FDA told company to do it because they were going to announce if you drank grapefruit juice or took certain antibiotics with it it could cause fatal arrythmia....
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!!
What is it with grapefruit juice? I once heard that it can make certain drugs ineffective. Why grapefruit juice and not, say, orange juice? What's different about grapefruit juice?
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!!
What is it with grapefruit juice? I once heard that it can make certain drugs ineffective. Why grapefruit juice and not, say, orange juice? What's different about grapefruit juice?
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:22 PM (77rzZ)
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Co-worker got flu shot not long ago and wiped him out the day after.
I never had one
I never had one
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2025 04:23 PM (Ia/+0)
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Seldane worked, and it didn't make me drowsy.
It did make my heart pound at times, though.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025
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Made me wired and it became hard to take a nap on my days off. I found out later it was loaded with caffeine.
I had a clue years before. The mini-migraine that located over my right eye would often vanish after a time if I drank a Coca-Cola when it was on its way out. But I never followed up on that and suffered with the headaches for many years. Since the Seldane days I've been free of them.
It did make my heart pound at times, though.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2025
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Made me wired and it became hard to take a nap on my days off. I found out later it was loaded with caffeine.
I had a clue years before. The mini-migraine that located over my right eye would often vanish after a time if I drank a Coca-Cola when it was on its way out. But I never followed up on that and suffered with the headaches for many years. Since the Seldane days I've been free of them.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:23 PM (wzUl9)
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Ace started watching House -- wasn't that a show like, 20 years ago?
Is it still running?
It was good for a season or two, but it just got tedious to me. I can not imagine it being "bingable" at any level. Has binge watching changed what they produce? House was the same story over and over each week -- you can't do that anymore.
Is it still running?
It was good for a season or two, but it just got tedious to me. I can not imagine it being "bingable" at any level. Has binge watching changed what they produce? House was the same story over and over each week -- you can't do that anymore.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025 04:23 PM (Pkr1Y)
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Is Tim Walz even up for election next year?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think in 2026 for his fourth term. MN does not have term limits for its governor.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think in 2026 for his fourth term. MN does not have term limits for its governor.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:23 PM (WDjG6)
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Just saw the trailer for Supergirl, that thing is going to tank so hard it's going to probably take out Gunn.
Looking forward to Schneiderverse 2.0.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2025 04:21 PM
All one has to do it look at the "Truth. Justice. Whatever." promotional poster to realize it's going to be woke crap.
I think in the trailer they show a dog peeing on a newspaper picture of Superman.
Looking forward to Schneiderverse 2.0.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2025 04:21 PM
All one has to do it look at the "Truth. Justice. Whatever." promotional poster to realize it's going to be woke crap.
I think in the trailer they show a dog peeing on a newspaper picture of Superman.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:24 PM (P5BPp)
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“If it only saves one life.” New hotness: “Fuck off.”
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 11, 2025 04:24 PM (MmP96)
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>> What is it with grapefruit juice?
Some compound in the stuff affects an enzyme system in the liver, causing metabolism of various drugs to be drastically altered, basically.
Some compound in the stuff affects an enzyme system in the liver, causing metabolism of various drugs to be drastically altered, basically.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 11, 2025 04:24 PM (w6EFb)
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If you meet with a doctor, you're the client.
It would be nice to believe that. Increasingly, however, I believe that the clients are pharma and the medical industrial complex. I am the customer to be sold the latest tinctures and snake oils.
I don't say this to malign any of the members of the horde who are medicos, or your personal doctor - whom I'm sure is above reproach and only and always concerned for your health. Just reporting what I see.
It would be nice to believe that. Increasingly, however, I believe that the clients are pharma and the medical industrial complex. I am the customer to be sold the latest tinctures and snake oils.
I don't say this to malign any of the members of the horde who are medicos, or your personal doctor - whom I'm sure is above reproach and only and always concerned for your health. Just reporting what I see.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2025 04:25 PM (ExV1e)
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What is it with grapefruit juice? I once heard that it can make certain drugs ineffective. Why grapefruit juice and not, say, orange juice? What's different about grapefruit juice?
hmm
interesting
grapefruit extract is GSE, which I use medicinally. topically!
it's also used internally for certain things, but it can interfere with other medications. like it makes your blood pressure drugs not work anymore (while you're taking it)
hmm
interesting
grapefruit extract is GSE, which I use medicinally. topically!
it's also used internally for certain things, but it can interfere with other medications. like it makes your blood pressure drugs not work anymore (while you're taking it)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:25 PM (emBoF)
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The scales fell from my eyes, when public health officials started diving into gun control and other issues as "health" issues.
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The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) more than a decade ago launched itself into the diseases of...guns...and salt intake.
The agency should have been boarded up at that time, or everyone fired and replaced with new hires who understood what a "disease" is.
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The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) more than a decade ago launched itself into the diseases of...guns...and salt intake.
The agency should have been boarded up at that time, or everyone fired and replaced with new hires who understood what a "disease" is.
Posted by: Crusader at December 11, 2025 04:26 PM (TN0g+)
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278 “If it only saves one life.” New hotness: “Fuck off.”
Posted by: Hokey Pokey
What got me was the Biden excuse that we could not vaxx the illegals coming in because they had rights implying Americans did not.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey
What got me was the Biden excuse that we could not vaxx the illegals coming in because they had rights implying Americans did not.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:26 PM (WDjG6)
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Ace started watching House -- wasn't that a show like, 20 years ago?
Is it still running?
It was good for a season or two, but it just got tedious to me. I can not imagine it being "bingable" at any level. Has binge watching changed what they produce? House was the same story over and over each week -- you can't do that anymore.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025
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It ran for five or six seasons. Heroes & Icons were running it in the daytime during the Sniffle Scare, and I'd watch it when I was home, "working."
Is it still running?
It was good for a season or two, but it just got tedious to me. I can not imagine it being "bingable" at any level. Has binge watching changed what they produce? House was the same story over and over each week -- you can't do that anymore.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 11, 2025
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It ran for five or six seasons. Heroes & Icons were running it in the daytime during the Sniffle Scare, and I'd watch it when I was home, "working."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:26 PM (wzUl9)
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also knew when you were at a BLM rally or an evil church worship service singing those dangerous hymns."
But did you know if we've been bad or good...
But did you know if we've been bad or good...
Posted by: man at December 11, 2025 04:26 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:26 PM (emBoF)
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all doctors are hospitalists now, unless they are concierge docs
so no, you're not the "client"
Posted by: BlackOrchid
Our PCP is concierge.
so no, you're not the "client"
Posted by: BlackOrchid
Our PCP is concierge.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:27 PM (77rzZ)
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Maybe I dont know how this works. But the "flu shot" is a "flu" shot.
Giving you the flu to build up antibodies. Obviously in a somewhat condensed version. Its not an "antibody" shot.
Or at least how I thought it worked.
Giving you the flu to build up antibodies. Obviously in a somewhat condensed version. Its not an "antibody" shot.
Or at least how I thought it worked.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 11, 2025 04:27 PM (ItWcy)
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> Public health officials focus on what is "statistically" beneficial for society. not what is beneficial to you.
It's even worse than that. Because they're cowards who are terrified of being called racist, they force treatments that are only necessary for small segments of the population on everyone. See Hepatitis vaccines for babies for example.
Unless you're born into a crack den, you most likely don't need it. But doctors don't want to have that conversation, so they mandate EVERYONE have it. If you try to opt out, they will do their damndest to FORCE it on you. You might even have to deal with a CPS investigation.
It's even worse than that. Because they're cowards who are terrified of being called racist, they force treatments that are only necessary for small segments of the population on everyone. See Hepatitis vaccines for babies for example.
Unless you're born into a crack den, you most likely don't need it. But doctors don't want to have that conversation, so they mandate EVERYONE have it. If you try to opt out, they will do their damndest to FORCE it on you. You might even have to deal with a CPS investigation.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2025 04:28 PM (Yp6az)
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Oops. The mini-migraine would nail itself over my *left* eye, not my right. Just shows you how long it's been since I had it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:28 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:28 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 11, 2025 04:28 PM (rnXZH)
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Remember when kids liked things like Microscopes?
Remember when kids liked things like Microscopes?
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 11, 2025 04:28 PM (rnXZH)
294
Here is also a reminder of the (at least) 35 reasons to not get the COVID "vaccine":
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3zBStfw
17 More Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3Gzd3mu
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3zBStfw
17 More Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3Gzd3mu
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (P5BPp)
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I've said everything I needed to say about the COVID Op years ago.
What really needs to happen at this point is a wide swathe of villians to meet the business end of industrial wood chippers.
What really needs to happen at this point is a wide swathe of villians to meet the business end of industrial wood chippers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (XV/Pl)
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But I wore such cute scarves!
Posted by: Bubblehead Birx at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (3rtaB)
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why did they have to rename "attending physician" into "hospitalist" ??
Posted by: runner at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (g47mK)
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Do they even sell junior chemistry kits, anymore?
they do!
I was about to give our set to my neighbor.
the boys like those electrical kits more tho. they could make little cars and other things.
the girl liked the chemistry one
they do!
I was about to give our set to my neighbor.
the boys like those electrical kits more tho. they could make little cars and other things.
the girl liked the chemistry one
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (emBoF)
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The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) more than a decade ago launched itself into the diseases of...guns...and salt intake.
The agency should have been boarded up at that time, or everyone fired and replaced with new hires who understood what a "disease" is.
Posted by: Crusader
Big permanent RIF there at CDC and their hero asshole head was canned after trying to subvert RFK Jr as head of DHS. The noxious evil previous head of CDC during Trump's term literally bragged about her own illegal and immoral actions promoting all the shutdown crap late in Trump I.
And you have smirking Senator Cassidy Rino from Louisiana as chair of HHS and CDC oversight (who voted the second time to impeach Trump) trying to dictate HHS policy for his miserable grifting from his donors.
The agency should have been boarded up at that time, or everyone fired and replaced with new hires who understood what a "disease" is.
Posted by: Crusader
Big permanent RIF there at CDC and their hero asshole head was canned after trying to subvert RFK Jr as head of DHS. The noxious evil previous head of CDC during Trump's term literally bragged about her own illegal and immoral actions promoting all the shutdown crap late in Trump I.
And you have smirking Senator Cassidy Rino from Louisiana as chair of HHS and CDC oversight (who voted the second time to impeach Trump) trying to dictate HHS policy for his miserable grifting from his donors.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (WDjG6)
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Why grapefruit juice and not, say, orange juice? What's different about grapefruit juice?
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Furanocoumarins. Its an enzyme tbey have that blocks the bodys ability to regulate the steady break down of certain drugs. You get it much faster into you system than you should. So an all day slow release becomes a big whopping loading dose. Conversely with otber drugs it can interfere with the drug making it into the target cells, so you get less than you should.
Vastly oversimplified.
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Furanocoumarins. Its an enzyme tbey have that blocks the bodys ability to regulate the steady break down of certain drugs. You get it much faster into you system than you should. So an all day slow release becomes a big whopping loading dose. Conversely with otber drugs it can interfere with the drug making it into the target cells, so you get less than you should.
Vastly oversimplified.
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (kwWDM)
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139 Perry Mason always nailed the perp at x:52.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (W7XSX)
He lost the Case of the Terrified Typist.
Posted by: no one at December 11, 2025 03:52 PM (W7XSX)
He lost the Case of the Terrified Typist.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (rQwsY)
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grapefruit extract is GSE, which I use medicinally. topically!
it's also used internally for certain things, but it can interfere with other medications. like it makes your blood pressure drugs not work anymore (while you're taking it)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025
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Good thing I don't drink grapefruit juice, then.
grapefruit extract is GSE, which I use medicinally. topically!
it's also used internally for certain things, but it can interfere with other medications. like it makes your blood pressure drugs not work anymore (while you're taking it)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025
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Good thing I don't drink grapefruit juice, then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:30 PM (wzUl9)
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297 why did they have to rename "attending physician" into "hospitalist" ??
hospitalist - the way I'm using it - means they are employed by the hospital system, they aren't in private practice.
pre Ocare most docs were in their own practices. that was better. now everyone out here except the very few who don't take insurance are hospitalists.
hospitalist - the way I'm using it - means they are employed by the hospital system, they aren't in private practice.
pre Ocare most docs were in their own practices. that was better. now everyone out here except the very few who don't take insurance are hospitalists.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:30 PM (emBoF)
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294 Here is also a reminder of the (at least) 35 reasons to not get the COVID "vaccine":
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3zBStfw
17 More Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3Gzd3mu
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (P5BPp)
Here’s the only one I need:
It Failed.
18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3zBStfw
17 More Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
https://bit.ly/3Gzd3mu
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:29 PM (P5BPp)
Here’s the only one I need:
It Failed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 04:31 PM (rQwsY)
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Nicole Shanahan, who personally signed nine-figure philanthropy checks — just went full whistleblower on the entire Silicon Valley “tech wife mafia” and how they were used.
“I don’t think many of the tech mafia wives realize… they were used to set the groundwork for what Klaus Schwab calls The Great Reset.
Their money especially was being conscripted through a network of NGO advisors, Hollywood, Davos, and their own companies.
A really small group of people… completely blind to how their groundwork is being used to enable these Great Reset policies.”
_Nicole Shanahan
more:
https://tinyurl.com/ycy7fa7e
“I don’t think many of the tech mafia wives realize… they were used to set the groundwork for what Klaus Schwab calls The Great Reset.
Their money especially was being conscripted through a network of NGO advisors, Hollywood, Davos, and their own companies.
A really small group of people… completely blind to how their groundwork is being used to enable these Great Reset policies.”
_Nicole Shanahan
more:
https://tinyurl.com/ycy7fa7e
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 11, 2025 04:31 PM (xgeFZ)
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Good thing I don't drink grapefruit juice, then.
you'd have to swallow the seeds.
it's the SEEDS. you crush the seeds to make the extract which is useful for a bunch of things ... but it really does mess with your metabolism.
just normal juice is fine
you'd have to swallow the seeds.
it's the SEEDS. you crush the seeds to make the extract which is useful for a bunch of things ... but it really does mess with your metabolism.
just normal juice is fine
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:31 PM (emBoF)
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pre Ocare most docs were in their own practices. that was better. now everyone out here except the very few who don't take insurance are hospitalists.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:30 PM (emBoF)
Yep. And they were the small businesses everyone holds as the font of virtue.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:30 PM (emBoF)
Yep. And they were the small businesses everyone holds as the font of virtue.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 04:32 PM (rQwsY)
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They can pontificate all they want. At the end of the day they know that the people they love to hate had a better handle on the situation than they did.
What it comes down to is NOT about premature deaths or immune system compromise or even dead kids. It comes down to the self-proclaimed educated make the wrong call, and compromising their own health in the process by taking their own advice and shooting up the clot shot...AND noticing all those great unwashed rubes were better prepared and smarter than they were throughout the conceived crisis.
They hate those who didn't fall for the "vaccine" hype. Because they wish they had done the same. All this chattering (like in this article) is an attempt at rationalizing their stupidity.
What it comes down to is NOT about premature deaths or immune system compromise or even dead kids. It comes down to the self-proclaimed educated make the wrong call, and compromising their own health in the process by taking their own advice and shooting up the clot shot...AND noticing all those great unwashed rubes were better prepared and smarter than they were throughout the conceived crisis.
They hate those who didn't fall for the "vaccine" hype. Because they wish they had done the same. All this chattering (like in this article) is an attempt at rationalizing their stupidity.
Posted by: Orson at December 11, 2025 04:32 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at December 11, 2025 04:32 PM (3rtaB)
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Giving you the flu to build up antibodies. Obviously in a somewhat condensed version. Its not an "antibody" shot.
Or at least how I thought it worked.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal
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If a traditional vaccine, yes. It is not a true sterilizing vaccine like smallpox (permanent or very long protection) because he flu, cold, and now covid viruses change so much each year through mutations that you might get a case but a milder version of it.
Or at least how I thought it worked.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal
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If a traditional vaccine, yes. It is not a true sterilizing vaccine like smallpox (permanent or very long protection) because he flu, cold, and now covid viruses change so much each year through mutations that you might get a case but a milder version of it.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2025 04:32 PM (WDjG6)
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why did they have to rename "attending physician" into "hospitalist
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Because some doctors have a practic3 where they will see you in the hospital, but also in the office as your primary care doc. Hospitalists only practice in the hospital. They do not become your primary doctor after you are discharged. Also hospitalists are typically employees of the hospital. Not in private practice. At least in the midwest.
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Because some doctors have a practic3 where they will see you in the hospital, but also in the office as your primary care doc. Hospitalists only practice in the hospital. They do not become your primary doctor after you are discharged. Also hospitalists are typically employees of the hospital. Not in private practice. At least in the midwest.
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025 04:33 PM (kwWDM)
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Here’s the only one I need:
It Failed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 04:31 PM
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
Wait, what? Aren't these vaccines supposed to be what we've been waiting for to "go back to normal"? Nope.
Why do you think we're getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?
The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.
If you don't believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.
The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.
Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?
That's it... lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we've been waiting for.
Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?
It Failed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 11, 2025 04:31 PM
#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION
Wait, what? Aren't these vaccines supposed to be what we've been waiting for to "go back to normal"? Nope.
Why do you think we're getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?
The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.
If you don't believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.
The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.
Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?
That's it... lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we've been waiting for.
Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:33 PM (P5BPp)
Posted by: Trust us!!!!!! at December 11, 2025 04:34 PM (kwWDM)
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269 Just saw the trailer for Supergirl, that thing is going to tank so hard it's going to probably take out Gunn.
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I wonder if Supergirl has super boobs and what be their special power.
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I wonder if Supergirl has super boobs and what be their special power.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 04:35 PM (Dv3i1)
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Now, in a moment when public health in America is under existential threat
Have I missed something? Is there an Ebola outbreak?
Have I missed something? Is there an Ebola outbreak?
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 11, 2025 04:36 PM (jc0TO)
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I wonder if Supergirl has super boobs and what be their special power.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
You know about the cup sizes?
I wonder if Supergirl has super boobs and what be their special power.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
You know about the cup sizes?
Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 11, 2025 04:36 PM (3rtaB)
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I knew the Covid vaccine was a fake the day they told us (essential workers) to go get it. I simply asked my boss, "If I get the shot, I don't have to wear this stupid mask anymore, right?" When he told me I would have to continue masking, I knew it was all a lie.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 11, 2025 04:37 PM (m0WlR)
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I wonder if Supergirl has super boobs and what be their special power.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
We all know what the special power of super boobs is.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
We all know what the special power of super boobs is.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)
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Noodity
Posted by: Noodist at December 11, 2025 04:38 PM (3rtaB)
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Super Boobs > Socialist Titties
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 11, 2025 04:38 PM (jc0TO)
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The possibility -- perhaps the likelihood -- that a handful of vaccine-related deaths occurred and were downplayed by medical authorities does not undermine the fact that COVID vaccination, on the whole, has prevented death on a massive scale.
(1) "handful" of "vaccine"-related deaths? Handful is 5. There have been a LOT more than 5 "vaccine"-related deaths.
(2) It is not a "fact" that the "vaccine" prevented any deaths whatsoever. Considering it did not prevent transmission nor spread of the virus. However, it is an actual fact that the "vaccine" caused harm and death on a large scale.
(1) "handful" of "vaccine"-related deaths? Handful is 5. There have been a LOT more than 5 "vaccine"-related deaths.
(2) It is not a "fact" that the "vaccine" prevented any deaths whatsoever. Considering it did not prevent transmission nor spread of the virus. However, it is an actual fact that the "vaccine" caused harm and death on a large scale.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:39 PM (P5BPp)
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I wonder if Supergirl has super boobs and what be their special power.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 04:35 PM (Dv3i1)
___________________
Predominately defensive in nature. If some criminal tries to "motorboat" her, they end up with brain damage from all the Super jiggling.
On a separate note, it is more dangerous than Superman. Harder to control the trajectory of bullets bounding off the chest. Might be a little collateral damage in that regard.
I've given this some thought.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 11, 2025 04:35 PM (Dv3i1)
___________________
Predominately defensive in nature. If some criminal tries to "motorboat" her, they end up with brain damage from all the Super jiggling.
On a separate note, it is more dangerous than Superman. Harder to control the trajectory of bullets bounding off the chest. Might be a little collateral damage in that regard.
I've given this some thought.
Posted by: Orson at December 11, 2025 04:39 PM (dIske)
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U nas yest' NOOD. Ilhan Omar.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)
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I knew the Covid vaccine was a fake the day they told us (essential workers) to go get it. I simply asked my boss, "If I get the shot, I don't have to wear this stupid mask anymore, right?" When he told me I would have to continue masking, I knew it was all a lie.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 11, 2025
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I knew the testing was all theater early on. We were supposed to be tested at random. So I went twice. The second time they left me on my own to take my nose sample. I simply put the q-tip into the jar without probing my proboscis.
Result: Negative. Not "We did not have material for a sample; please come in again." Just "negative."
I stopped going, and there were never any repercussions. There was no enforcement. They just expected us to comply like good little workers.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 11, 2025
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I knew the testing was all theater early on. We were supposed to be tested at random. So I went twice. The second time they left me on my own to take my nose sample. I simply put the q-tip into the jar without probing my proboscis.
Result: Negative. Not "We did not have material for a sample; please come in again." Just "negative."
I stopped going, and there were never any repercussions. There was no enforcement. They just expected us to comply like good little workers.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2025 04:41 PM (wzUl9)
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well I learned a lot more than I knew about grapefruit seed extract and grapefruit juice!
I guess it's powerful stuff. since I'm willowed I'll stop there - but wow, I won't be drinking too much grapefruit juice I guess!
I guess it's powerful stuff. since I'm willowed I'll stop there - but wow, I won't be drinking too much grapefruit juice I guess!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2025 04:41 PM (emBoF)
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Were those children's death because Trump pushed it through at earp speed?
That bastard!! He killed Kenny
That bastard!! He killed Kenny
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 11, 2025 04:42 PM (yyi7Y)
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(1) "handful" of "vaccine"-related deaths? Handful is 5. There have been a LOT more than 5 "vaccine"-related deaths.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:39 PM
Yep. The "booster" killed my brother inlaw. This I will never forgive.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 11, 2025 04:39 PM
Yep. The "booster" killed my brother inlaw. This I will never forgive.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 11, 2025 04:42 PM (jc0TO)
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Shut up, Dunce.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 11, 2025 04:42 PM (jc0TO)
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307 pre Ocare most docs were in their own practices. that was better. now everyone out here except the very few who don't take insurance are hospitalists.
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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My Doc is not pleased. In order to keep privileges at Big Hospital he had to go completely on board. Now, it's as others have stated, the room has a computer instead of my hand written chart. The computer, which is linked to Big Hospital, owns the room. I'm thinking, as soon as he gets everything paid off, he's out of there.
Posted by: BlackOrchid
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My Doc is not pleased. In order to keep privileges at Big Hospital he had to go completely on board. Now, it's as others have stated, the room has a computer instead of my hand written chart. The computer, which is linked to Big Hospital, owns the room. I'm thinking, as soon as he gets everything paid off, he's out of there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 11, 2025 04:44 PM (xgeFZ)
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England has that Monkey Pox going
Quit butt fking and it will go away
Quit butt fking and it will go away
Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2025 04:47 PM (Ia/+0)
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That's why we have so many foreign doctors, the American brains that would have become doctors have gone into other businesses.
People don't realize the historical, independent mindset of doctors. That's why they called it a practice. It was like a fighter pilot; they received the training then it was their judgement, their call on what it was and how to treat it. It was work in the safe zone.
People don't realize the historical, independent mindset of doctors. That's why they called it a practice. It was like a fighter pilot; they received the training then it was their judgement, their call on what it was and how to treat it. It was work in the safe zone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 11, 2025 04:48 PM (xgeFZ)
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They didn’t die of the COVID vaxx; they died of “suddenly”. You know, perfectly healthy star athlete , in the prime of life, dies “suddenly” on the playing field. You know like it never used to happen, but now does “suddenly”.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 11, 2025 04:51 PM (8lgVD)
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I can't lose more respect for anyone like the way I lost respect for doctors. I was working as an RN when the whole thing blew up in 2020. I ended the best career I ever had over the stupid shot. Worth it. Extremely personally painful and destructive, but worth it.
I think the reason they killed off the J&J vaccine was not really because of the adverse events. It was the one-dose nature of it, making it impossible to hide the adverse events. When people had adverse events from the J&J vax, nobody could use the rhetorical cover they used with the other two-dose vaccines. That cover being that you are not considered "vaccinated" after one dose.
Therefore, "you are not having a reaction to the shot we just fucking gave you, because you haven't been vaccinated yet."
I can't believe the straightfaced cons they pulled.
And no one will be punished. Because culpability is spread all over our society from top to bottom. It's like murdering Julius Caesar, if everybody has a knife in their hand, then nobody can be punished.
I think the reason they killed off the J&J vaccine was not really because of the adverse events. It was the one-dose nature of it, making it impossible to hide the adverse events. When people had adverse events from the J&J vax, nobody could use the rhetorical cover they used with the other two-dose vaccines. That cover being that you are not considered "vaccinated" after one dose.
Therefore, "you are not having a reaction to the shot we just fucking gave you, because you haven't been vaccinated yet."
I can't believe the straightfaced cons they pulled.
And no one will be punished. Because culpability is spread all over our society from top to bottom. It's like murdering Julius Caesar, if everybody has a knife in their hand, then nobody can be punished.
Posted by: lauraw at December 11, 2025 05:01 PM (C5EJK)
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Isn't this grounds for a Mal Practice Lawsuit against Big Pharma?
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 11, 2025 06:22 PM (wGqjj)
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It was good for a season or two, but it just got tedious to me. I can not imagine it being "bingable" at any level. Has binge watching changed what they produce? House was the same story over and over each week -- you can't do that anymore.
I would watch it when it aired and it didn't bother me much until it hit streaming, then seeing how much of an ass House was in a 3 hour stretch made me hate the show when it was just 'meh' before
I think having a week between shows would let you decompress from it and you don't remember how awful he was. When it was binge watching, I began to wonder why would anyone put their careers on the line for him when he's been a complete douche bucket for 3 episodes in a row?
I would watch it when it aired and it didn't bother me much until it hit streaming, then seeing how much of an ass House was in a 3 hour stretch made me hate the show when it was just 'meh' before
I think having a week between shows would let you decompress from it and you don't remember how awful he was. When it was binge watching, I began to wonder why would anyone put their careers on the line for him when he's been a complete douche bucket for 3 episodes in a row?
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Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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