Four Years Too Late, The New York Times Admits That Biden Pursued a Reckless Policy of Unlimited Illegal Immigration -- But Only In Service of New Narrative That <i>Only</i> Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

Four Years Too Late, The New York Times Admits That Biden Pursued a Reckless Policy of Unlimited Illegal Immigration -- But Only In Service of New Narrative That Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

Big Brother is rewriting history and deleting old files and airbrushing old photos as we watch them do it.

Kind of a pattern with the propaganda media, isn't it? Admitting the Democrats were wrong -- lied, actually -- about covid and Biden's cognitive fitness and now open borders.

And then creating a new narrative absolving all Democrats of those lies going forward.

How Biden Ignored Warnings and Lost Americans' Faith in Immigration

The Democratic president and his top advisers rejected recommendations that could have eased the border crisis that helped return Donald Trump to the White House.

See, his "top advisors" -- who can be taken to represent the real Democrat Party -- warned him not to throw open the borders and plunge the country into "chaos," but Biden -- and only Biden -- was determined to impose an open borders policy on the Democrats who heroically resisted this folly.

In the weeks after Joseph R. Biden Jr. was elected president, advisers delivered a warning: His approach to immigration could prove disastrous.
Mr. Biden had pledged to treat unauthorized immigrants more humanely than President Donald J. Trump, who generated widespread backlash by separating migrant children from their parents.
But Mr. Biden was now president-elect, and his positions threatened to drastically increase border crossings, experts advising his transition team warned in a Zoom briefing in the final weeks of 2020, according to people with direct knowledge of that briefing. That jump, they said, could provoke a political crisis.
"Chaos" was the word the advisers had used in a memo during the campaign.
They offered a range of options to avert that crisis, by better deterring migrants. Mr. Biden seemed to grasp the risk. But he and his top aides failed to act on those recommendations.
The warnings came true, and then some. After Mr. Biden became president, migrant encounters at the southern border quickly doubled, then kept rising. New arrivals overwhelmed border stations, then border towns, and eventually major cities like New York and Denver.
Anger over illegal migration helped return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and he has enacted even more aggressive policies than those Mr. Biden first campaigned against. Mr. Trump has drawn outrage from Democrats by sending masked agents to target immigrants, often aided by National Guard soldiers.

Biden did All the Bad Things, you guys, single-handedly. Biden was the only thing wrong with the Democrat Party. Now that he's out, the Democrat Party is Perfect Again (TM).

Walter Kirn summed this effort up as the Democrats "trying to establish a new encyclopedia entry" on this chapter of political history so that future voters will only be able to read this version of events.

...
But a New York Times examination of Mr. Biden's record found that he and his closest advisers repeatedly rebuffed recommendations that could have addressed the border crisis faster, and eased what became a potent issue for Mr. Trump as he sought to return to the White House and justify the aggressive tactics roiling American cities today.
Former Biden administration officials told The Times that Mr. Biden and his circle of close confidants -- including Ron Klain, who was chief of staff during the president's first two years, Mike Donilon, Jennifer O'Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn -- made two crucial errors.
First, they underestimated the scale of migration that was coming. Second, they failed to appreciate the political reaction to that migration -- believing that stronger enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters, and also that a border surge would not be an important issue to most voters. Those calculations would later prove to be mistaken, with many voters, including Latinos, citing immigration as a reason for supporting Mr. Trump in 2024.
"Everybody was reacting to the excesses of the Trump administration," said Cecilia Muñoz, who helped shape immigration policy in the Obama administration and oversaw domestic and economic policy for the Biden transition team.

Of course -- it wasn't the Democrats' fault, it was Trump's.

Biden only embraced open borders Because Trump. This wasn't the Democrat Party position or anything.

Except... that in the Democrat primary presidential debate of 2016, scheduled by Hillary Clinton for Christmas Eve so that no one could see it, both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders (formerly in favor of border control) vowed that no illegal aliens -- not one -- would be deported under their would-be presidencies.

I remember attempting to bring this attention to NeverTrumpers claiming Hillary Clinton was the Real Conservative Choice in 2016. They, get this, pretended she never said that.

And now the New York Times debases itself by imitating the behavior of vile NeverTrumpers in pretending that open borders was just something Biden came up with alone as a reaction to the Beast of the Apocalypse Donald Trump.

Posted by: Ace at 04:28 PM

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1 St

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:28 PM (MGB5H)

2 That is some highly-enriched weapons-grade bullshit, and millions of low-info voters will slurp it right down like it was hot fudge.

Posted by: Too many sheeple at December 12, 2025 04:30 PM (TbWk/)

3 It would be LOL for the NYT to claim that sundown Joe came up with or insisted on any policy position, except so many people still treat the FNM as news rather than as the propaganda arm of the commiecrat party.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (hhkIi)

4 Four Years Too Late, The New York Times Admits That Biden Pursued a Reckless Policy of Unlimited Illegal Immigration -- But Only In Service of New Narrative That Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It
—Ace

Gavin Newsome tried. He really, REALLY tried to make Biden see reason, but gosh darn it, he just couldn't make Biden do what everyone could see needed doing. It's tragic, really.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (Riz8t)

5 All while Gavin Newsom's own X account is bragging that Newsom got free healthcare for illegals.

It's almost like they have a messaging problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

6 "That demented Old Man Biden sure gave a black eye to the otherwise pristine Democrat Party. Good thing we dumped him so our many other patriots can get us back on course."

The Same Old Corrupt Dem Party

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (vbXSk)

7 Yes, it's all predictable, but it works.

The uninformed middle will fall for the Democrats lies again and again.

That's why they keep doing it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (cuae1)

8 I remember attempting to bring this attention to NeverTrumpers claiming Hillary Clinton was the Real Conservative Choice in 2016. They, get this, pretended she never said that.

=====

"She was just trying to get elected! We shouldn't believe anything she says!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

9 Saw today Tim Watz wants more Somalians, to suck up more fraud probably

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (Ia/+0)

10 Guys, I think the democrats might be liars...

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (MGB5H)

11 Let the underbussing commence!

Posted by: The Left at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (nhCoE)

12 "Joe Biden shit our pants!"
-- Democrats

It's almost plausible.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (z5QST)

13 If the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (viF8m)

14 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

15 f the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?
Posted by: JackStraw at

Shhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (MGB5H)

16 Next up, Biden used to sneak into the Oval Office late at night and write up bizarre Executive Orders, which everybody opposed, but what could they do?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (CSQvy)

17 14 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

====

Get back here and refile all your TPS reports with the new covers!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

18 ace, take the rest of the week off! enjoy !

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

19 If your for ruining America raise your hand.

Posted by: Get out of my fucking shot at December 12, 2025 04:36 PM (jZ3ZM)

20 Mr. Biden had pledged to treat unauthorized immigrants more humanely than President Donald J. Trump, who generated widespread backlash by separating migrant children from their parents

WHO BUILT THE CAGES, JOE?!

Posted by: pookysgirl, quoting your favorite President at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (Wt5PA)

21 Ex pui restact al phempt

IYKYK.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (NcvvS)

22 14 Enjoy! Hasta pronto!

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (GHIyr)

23 Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

Finally. Someone explains why the Democrats are so determined to prevent Trump from dealing with the illegals. They're just so gosh darn dug in on opposing a President who wants to flood the country with illegals that they haven't noticed that an election happened.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (ExV1e)

24 That's why we have the Prickster "protecting people of Illinois", of course.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (krQz2)

25 "Immigration" != "Illegal Immigration"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (xcxpd)

26 When all the dems were screaming to tear down Trump's wall, it was all in Joe Biden's voice. They're just well meaning ventriloquists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (n5tGW)

27 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZxPkt)

28 Finally. Someone explains why the Democrats are so determined to prevent Trump from dealing with the illegals. They're just so gosh darn dug in on opposing a President who wants to flood the country with illegals that they haven't noticed that an election happened.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (ExV1e)
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They've only thought to the step of clearing other Dems.

Now comes the media demanding you to not be so petty as to expect to make sense out of the rest of it.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (krQz2)

29
So, I guess the take-away is...

SENILITY

The Retard Strength of Political Persuasions

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (iJfKG)

30 Trump has been in office for 11 months now and the DHS is reporting that 2.5 million illegals have self deported. biden let in an estimated 10-15 million illegals in his time in office.

If Trump continues to make 2.5 million illegals self deport every year he has left as president that means that he would be on the extreme low end of getting rid of what joe biden let into the country illegally.

That math ain't mathin because there were 20+ million illegals already in the country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (0N4FZ)

31 14 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

We'll miss you.
Have some bourbon.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (xcxpd)

32 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.
Posted by: ace

Have a great weekend, Ace.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

33 Runner- here is your will owed answer:
329 I accepted the role of paranormal guide for multiple reasons. As a Mechanical Engineer, I found I was able to use my skillset in tactical as well as creative ways. I was able to design, build and test new equipment for reaching the great beyond, as well as repair and understand current technology with an eye toward improvements. I was also able to work on listening comprehension as Ghosts may communicate quietly or using non traditional methods. I challenged myself to be open to new ideas, and not discount even improbable possibilities.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZdaMQ)

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

34 https://x.com/BlueBoxDave/status/
1999478136745132095

@BlueBoxDave
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

35 The Times is shocked- SHOCKED!- to find that unfettered illegal immigration was allowed!

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (ZxPkt)

36 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZxPkt)

*checks purse*

All I've got is Silly String.

Posted by: pookysgirl, apparently underequipped at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (Wt5PA)

37 >27 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZxPkt)

Only a matter of time before Zippy the Pinhead sharts all over this thread too.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (GTqXr)

38 27 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?
Posted by: Don Black
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It helps here if you have selective blindness.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (WDjG6)

39 Is this the less retarded but still stupid thread?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (h4uy9)

40 They can say it all they want, but anyone with eyes open can seethat the Dems prefer illegals to citizens.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (+mUZM)

41 30 Trump has been in office for 11 months now and the DHS is reporting that 2.5 million illegals have self deported. biden let in an estimated 10-15 million illegals in his time in office.

If Trump continues to make 2.5 million illegals self deport every year he has left as president that means that he would be on the extreme low end of getting rid of what joe biden let into the country illegally.

That math ain't mathin because there were 20+ million illegals already in the country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (0N4FZ)

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That 2.5 million is only 9 months, through the end of October, and ICE increased funding takes effect in January.

Per year, it's going to be over 3 million for the first year, and ICE is going to have more feet on the ground to push more out for the final three years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

42 >>>“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”

I've been saying this for years. There is an idea in some minority communities that they're entitled to rob and beat up white people as a form of what I call "Street reparations." Not official reparations, but reparations taken by people through "self-help."

There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (1wjle)

43 "New encyclopedia entry" ... you mean like the one about how racists were purged from the sinless Democratic Party then joined the Republican Party? That pernicious lie?

Posted by: Coki at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (Wkrcf)

44 42 I've been saying this for years. There is an idea in some minority communities that they're entitled to rob and beat up white people as a form of what I call "Street reparations." Not official reparations, but reparations taken by people through "self-help."

There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (1wjle)

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The attitude wasn't from black people.

It was from the white residents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

45 There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (1wjle)

That's common communist kant at least since Lenin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (h4uy9)

46 It blows my mind that a cartoon character like Bernie Sanders is given a stage to spew his genius.

Who supports this clown? WTF?

How did he escape from his rocking chair on the back porch?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (1zOXE)

47
Saw today Tim Watz wants more Somalians, to suck up more fraud probably
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (Ia/+0)

SOMALIANS
The Cat's Head Biscuits For Sopping Up Tim Walz' Brown Eye Gravy of Fraud and Corruption

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (iJfKG)

48 > "New encyclopedia entry" ... you mean like the one about how racists were purged from the sinless Democratic Party then joined the Republican Party? That pernicious lie?

There was a Southern Strategy you guise!
One whole Dixiecrat switched sides, you guise!

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2025 04:43 PM (Yp6az)

49 The attitude wasn't from black people.

It was from the white residents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger

Don't call the cops if they break into your house. They deserve your stuff.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:43 PM (MGB5H)

50 Fen, if still here and your son is looking at Lab Tech jobs, another parallel job would be Sterile Processing Technician - something in the "sorta connected to science and a lab" job that can parlay into bigger things...most places will train you after hiring and get you certified (b/c the pay is subpar) and licensed. Hospitals, medical offices, etc usually all have a constant need...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 04:43 PM (tOcjL)

51 >The attitude wasn't from black people.

It was from the white residents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

Minnysoda stupid trumps Minnysoda nice.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (GTqXr)

52 It's kind of funny, in a maddening way, how often democrats throw their own kind under the bus. The scum who shot Kirk probably thought he was going to be praised as a hero, instead the media and their followers insisted he was a republican.

Posted by: fb at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (D/cuw)

53 😂 that's great Piper!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (g47mK)

54 @BlueBoxDave
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Easy enough to change that--frame clawing back that stolen taxpayer money from the thieves as a treasure hunt for people that report it and find the miscreants. And put on the posters of the wanted thieves--Dead or Alive reward paid.

It is also enough to consider that we apply culturally appropriate punishments to these thieves. Lopping off arms will make them easier to identify in a crowd and yet be culturally sensitive to our differences. Somalis get to pick, either adopt our ways or we treat you like you were back home in Somalia.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (WDjG6)

55 And now the New York Times debases itself

i dunno. in order to debase yourself, you gotta be based to start with.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (v3pYe)

56 >>It was from the white residents.

ah yeah. I want these people forced to wear badges declaring that they grant permission to be beaten and robbed on the street. They defend this, they should mark themselves publicly as the designated victims of street violence. And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (1wjle)

57 Think about this:

The leftists in all of the western countries have been doing two interrelated things for several years, if not decades.

1. Trying their hardest to emasculate men, decrying toxic masculinity, deriding those who want to serve their country (unless they are a cross dresser), insisting that women are girl bosses and that men are irrelevant, and doping boys to prevent them from behaving like boys.

2. Importing as fast as they are able a large population of military age men from countries where women are seen as property and free for the taking, and using police powers to ensure that these men are not punished for whatever they do.

I think it is pretty obvious what their plan is.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (0U5gm)

58 The scum who shot Kirk probably thought he was going to be praised as a hero, instead the media and their followers insisted he was a republican.
Posted by: fb at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (D/cuw)

In a way they did both. They praised the murder, but said he was one of ours. Its kind of funny when you think about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (h4uy9)

59 52 It's kind of funny, in a maddening way, how often democrats throw their own kind under the bus. The scum who shot Kirk probably thought he was going to be praised as a hero, instead the media and their followers insisted he was a republican.
Posted by: fb
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Eh, they are hardened and unrepentant lies, as the good book says, there is no truth in them.

Troon furry lover was very probably the very type to moby conservative websites. Ditto for Mangione the dickless.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:46 PM (WDjG6)

60 >And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (1wjle)

Narrator, "You won't be left alone."

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:46 PM (GTqXr)

61 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

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Get back here and refile all your TPS reports with the new covers!

And have you finished the WENUS?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

62 The media really does use Orwell as an instructional manual…. They are despicable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:48 PM (xT8gx)

63 I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

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You'll have to leave some for the rest of us.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (krQz2)

64 Meanwhile Trump has fairly quietly militarized much of the southern border. Militarized is the FNM term, but the Dept of interior has turned over control of much of the land at the border to various military branches.

I don't know if this means the Navy, AF, et al are going to have bomber and A-10 practice areas on the border, but it would be fun. Throw up some muliti lingual signs "danger, bombing and strafing practice area" and have at it.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (hhkIi)

65 @BlueBoxDave
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Normal Person: We fed the Somalians and they killed our troops, then brought them over here because we felt so bad for them. Why do we need to pay them reparations?

Average Minnesotan Genius: They're black, pay them.

Normal Person: All blacks look alike to you?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (Dv3i1)

66 And have you finished the WENUS?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

I thought that was Chandler Bing who was all concerned with the WENUS…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (xT8gx)

67 Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

I can hardly wait to read the NYT's revisionism w/r/t the Demonic Party's love affair with keeping illegal aliens, terrorists, murderers, child sex traffickers, drug cartels free and roaming the American streets.

And how shooting cops and assassinating conservatives is Pro American.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (pawvM)

68 And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (1wjle)

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"That's not how any of this works." - Cultural Consensus

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (krQz2)

69
Don't call the cops if they break into your house. ~~They deserve your stuff.~~
Posted by: BruceWayne

The fuck if they do. Bif wishes a motherfucker would.

In other news, made it home from Orlando. Their traffic engineers need to be hauled out and put into stock so normies can fling poo at them for the fuckery they inflict on Orlando.

Did the Big Dummy ask for a smoke after his 'collection'?

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (QVmho)

70
All while Gavin Newsom's own X account is bragging that Newsom got free healthcare for illegals.

It's almost like they have a messaging problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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That video of him from earlier is ... "Gavinesque" is the only word I can come up with. "It's really bad that Biden let in all those illegals, whom I am proudly supporting with free healthcare." Like, if it's bad to let them in, isn't it also kind of bad to keep them in?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (1N/bM)

71 Couple shots of cognac for happy hour

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (Ia/+0)

72 If you were a space alien able to observe all of this from a distance it would be hilarious.

Unfortunately for us earthlings it's dangerously retarded.

Posted by: ballistic at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (3BwY8)

73 "Saw today Tim Watz wants more Somalians, to suck up more fraud probably"

10% for the big prancer guy?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (vbXSk)

74 And have you finished the WENUS?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

I thought that was Chandler Bing who was all concerned with the WENUS…

The WENUS is universal.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (Riz8t)

75 I spent most of my childhood in MN when it literally was maybe the nicest, cleanest, state, now it is getting everything it deserves because they have embraced some stupid, smug belief that they are better than everybody somehow.

It is run through the state,white collar, blue collar, everybody.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (Nmj5t)

76 Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 04:52 PM (9ipOP)

77 I have come to the conclusion with all these fkin judges letting criminals out free and clear that do your justice and let them do what they want if they catch you

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:52 PM (Ia/+0)

78 Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.
Posted by: San

so youre from 2075?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM (Nmj5t)

79 What is the WENUS?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)

80 I think it is pretty obvious what their plan is.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

A pretty sad video is out on X where a couple of local thugs are roughing up and attempting to steal from a woman tourist, one has a knife. The male tourist (husband or boyfriend) is seen in the background looking like he wants to intervene but is obviously to scared and seen stepping forward then back, completely ineffectual. A couple of local men eventually intervene and fight off the attackers.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (Dv3i1)

81 It's at least plausible that Democrats believed throwing open the gates the third world would lock in the hispanic vote. As Universalists, it would never occur to them to go out and discuss the question with actual hispanics. As an aside, that rationale shows how transactional the Dems view their relationship with blacks - if hispanics outnumber blacks, the Dems will not hesitate to adopt policies favoring the former at the expense of the latter.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (2ap+5)

82 Whig, are you out there?

What do you think about this idea I've been mulling over:
The "Positivist fallacy".

I think Positivism, both of Comte and Vienna School, has met enough dead-ends--and really formalistic self-reference problems--that it should be able to be dispensed with unless the writer can produce a new wrinkle.

Otherwise, we must only restrict ourselves to the objective traits of objective entities, which leaves Science little to offer as well.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (krQz2)

83 I have more pressing concerns, like which pre-dinner cocktail to order; sazarac or martini (on the wet side)

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (GTqXr)

84 San Franpsycho then you would be long gone and miss this wild ride

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (Ia/+0)

85 ah yeah. I want these people forced to wear badges declaring that they grant permission to be beaten and robbed on the street. They defend this, they should mark themselves publicly as the designated victims of street violence. And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Shouldn't be too hard. Get the Narrative around, like C19 Narratives that Trump and the War Criminal Hegseth have made a biological weapon that targets Trump's enemies.

The secret antidote/vax is massive amounts of colloidal silver.

Massive.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (pawvM)

86
Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

You'd still be here, one of us. Only 29er-er.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 04:55 PM (QVmho)

87 Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho

I'm confused. Today isn't 50 years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 04:55 PM (0U5gm)

88
Some people did some things.
Mistakes may have been made in the enthusiasm of the moment.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Old news.
Time to move on.

Posted by: MSM at December 12, 2025 04:55 PM (0sNs1)

89 What is the WENUS?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)

I don’t honestly know but there’s a scene in the old sitcom Friends where Chandler is at work he’s some kind of boss in a number crunching observation and he yells at his staff that he’s not happy with the WENUS….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (xT8gx)

90 I'm confused. Today isn't 50 years ago.
Posted by: Thomas

hes from the future

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (Nmj5t)

91 Exactly ace. The Dems and their propaganda ministers are providing cover for the Dems in 26 and 28. Everything will be memory holed with Biden. Of course his minions will still be allowed back, Sullivan , Blinken , Rice etc. . Oh and Barky had nothing to do with it, he's still the Light Bringer

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (D+mpw)

92 And have you finished the WENUS?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

I thought that was Chandler Bing who was all concerned with the WENUS…

The WENUS is universal.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (Riz8t)
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Pete Bootyjudge is very concerned about the allocation of the WENUS.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (krQz2)

93 I'm wishing 50 years later and watch Europe under the Caliphat
Thst some misery to see

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (Ia/+0)

94 Yeah. It BS.

There's clips of congress/senate folks saying to pass Biden's recommendations to fix the border.

Save those. They're going to disappear.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (ItWcy)

95 I don’t honestly know but there’s a scene in the old sitcom Friends where Chandler is at work he’s some kind of boss in a number crunching observation and he yells at his staff that he’s not happy with the WENUS….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Ah. So, like "TPS Reports" then.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (77rzZ)

96
Democrats; They all look like clowns to me.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (imZqa)

97 You cannot hate the media enough.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (wtvvX)

98 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (+mUZM)

99 So San Franpsycho would wish was born in 1915

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (Ia/+0)

100 It was on Friends: WENUS: Weekly Estimated Net Usage Statistics.

It was a way that Friends could make penis double entendres.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (krQz2)

101 What is the WENUS?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM

It was just a gag on the show "Friends" where they had Chandler working in an "Office Space" situation. WENUS and TPS Cover Sheets are interchangeable.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (CSQvy)

102 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.
Posted by: No

boomers have ruined everything

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (V0RQu)

103 You cannot hate the media enough.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (wtvvX)

This times one billion

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:59 PM (xT8gx)

104 Newspapers consume a great deal of chemicals, wood pulp and energy to be produced. Shut them down to save the planet.
Nothing would be lost.

Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 12, 2025 04:59 PM (PHmbR)

105 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (+mUZM)
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Yup. That's how we have a society that can argue these things, is that we all got here by carefully-considered Pro/Con lists.

* rolls eyes *

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

106 You cannot hate the media enough.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (wtvvX)

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That is a unfounded slander!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (krQz2)

107 “Many Biden officials came to view Mr. Abbott’s campaign (busing illegals to blue cities) as the point Democrats lost the debate,” The Times notes.”

What debate?! Did the Dems have a debate with somebody? Not with Americans! No, they tried to foist a bunch of aliens on America for extra votes, and media scum like you at the NYT did their best to help them!

I gotcher debate right here, assholes!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (FpP3s)

108 102 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.
Posted by: No

boomers have ruined everything
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (V0RQu
Take them to a good church.
-a boomer

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (o2ZRX)

109 And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (+mUZM)

110
I'm halfway through the article and it's stamped all over with "political." A political crisis, a political disaster, political chaos. Political opposition was the danger.

Nowhere (yet) does the Times consider the actual danger and damage done to the country by a massive population of illegal aliens, many of whom were violent criminals with criminal intent when they crashed the border.

Nowhere do they consider whether getting rid of them now is a good idea.

Still reading...

At least in the excerpt, but I can scarcely believe I'll find this stuff if I read the whole article.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (1N/bM)

111 Enjoy being a minority in your own country.
Posted by: Notsot

that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers, literally

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:01 PM (V0RQu)

112 And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (+mUZM)
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White supremacy hasn't been all that it was hyped to be.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

113
*checks purse*

All I've got is Silly String.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Are you going to be on Let's Make a Deal?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (pkeXY)

114 I'm not sure that he's considered that the people turning out kids in quantity can take everything away from the people of quality. It's just odd to have to have discussions like this.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (+mUZM)

115 And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.

I like the retards here who think "boomer" is the term for illegal aliens.

Replace "boomer" with "illegal aliens" or "Democrats" and it makes a whole lot more sense.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (9s47C)

116
Wow, that article is chock-full of signs of the civil war between the new radical socialists and the establishment Dems. “They were a little too sensitive to criticisms from the left,” Ms. Muñoz said [of advisers who wanted to deter migrants].

Heh-heh, meet your babies: the Red Guard. Good luck passing your purity tests, because these people don't care about your time-earned "wisdom" and "experience."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (1N/bM)

117 Maybe not 1915, like 1925 would be good

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (9ipOP)

118 I think Positivism, both of Comte and Vienna School, has met enough dead-ends--and really formalistic self-reference problems--that it should be able to be dispensed with unless the writer can produce a new wrinkle.

Otherwise, we must only restrict ourselves to the objective traits of objective entities, which leaves Science little to offer as well.
Posted by: Axeman
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Eh, I am frankly rusty on epistemology as I haven't taught methods course in a long while. But positivism is closely aligned with the age of Reason and materialism and subject to the same limits. Our reasoning ability is always less than perfect because we are meat puppets and we will never have omniscience. That goes for AI as it is a human tool, not sentient so far, and thus subject to the limits of its makers in reasoning and knowledge.

That being said, I was always a pragmatist and probabilistic type of empiricist. Same as the old paradox of Q: Who shaved the Spanish Barber--A: follow him around and find out.

There are always propositions not amenable to empirical analysis (and thus positivist tests) due to bad data, impossible to prove or disprove, etc. But some are to a degree.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (WDjG6)

119
And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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White supremacy hasn't been all that it was hyped to be.
Posted by: Axeman

I'd truly like my share of the white colonialist privledge.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (QVmho)

120 Exactly ace. The Dems and their propaganda ministers are providing cover for the Dems in 26 and 28. Everything will be memory holed with Biden.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (D+mpw)
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One thing you can say about the Democrat-media complex, they keep trying to make the Memory-hole happen.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:04 PM (krQz2)

121 I can't H8 the media enough because they are the Marxists Propaganda Ministry

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:04 PM (Ia/+0)

122 And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.
Posted by: ace

That’s why So many of us carry. They will NOT leave us alone. So.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 05:04 PM (W2Pud)

123 I like the retards here who think "boomer" is the term for illegal aliens.

Replace "boomer" with "illegal aliens" or "Democrats" and it makes a whole lot more sense.

It is gratuitous fun to smack boomers around, mostly because they are so snowflaky about it, but we would not have them thar illegals here but for boomer voters.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:05 PM (fHLjf)

124 Sorry about the slow reply Axeman but I was outside tossing a ball for my doggie to play fetch. The other one was simply basking in the warm sun and watching for deer passing through the back yard.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:05 PM (WDjG6)

125 Who would have guessed? He promised a surge and an open border. He got elected. He delivered what he promised. Sometimes doing the right thing isn’t popular.

Dems shoot themselves in the foot way too often. Why do democrats continue to think that soft on immigration approach is necessary to keep Latino support?

It was literally trump and Republicans who stopped a border security bill. Democrats want to fix immigration. Punishing employers of undocumented immigrants (while granting the right amount of temporary visas) would be the best route.

Also stopping mega corporations like Blackstone from mass house buying, and reasonable limit to properties owned by smaller landlords or a higher tax of some sort would help keep housing costs reasonable.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 05:05 PM (JCZqz)

126 that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers, literally

that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of ~~boomers~~ illegal aliens, literally

- or even more accurately -

that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of ~~boomers~~ Democrats, literally

Its the retards who are taking the Democrats off the hook and deflecting their crimes towards the Generation that voted for Reagan once they came of age.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:06 PM (9s47C)

127 Also stopping mega corporations like Blackstone from mass house buying, and reasonable limit to properties owned by smaller landlords or a higher tax of some sort would help keep housing costs reasonable.

so socialism?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (fHLjf)

128
Nowhere (yet) does the Times consider the actual danger and damage done to the country by a massive population of illegal aliens, many of whom were violent criminals with criminal intent when they crashed the border.
--------

That is the case with every Democrat stance. Their actions are driven by socio-political self-interest, rather than the well-being of the country. True locally as it is nationally.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (XeU6L)

129 It's the fault of Boomers only because you now want to make it cover three decades instead of two. It's all made up shit. Your birth year does not mean you are twinsies with those born in the same year. People born twenty years apart did not have the same upbringing. It's generational astrology. And mark my words, when the Boomers are gone, it will all be the Millenials fault.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (+mUZM)

130 The New York Times?

The same New York Times that STILL hasn't returned the Pulitzer Prize they earned for Walter Duranty's utterly false reporting from Russia that his the Holodomor, the intentional famine that murdered 5 million Ukrainians, from the world?

Yeah, fuck those fucking fuckers.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (/RHNq)

131 What is the WENUS?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM

It was just a gag on the show "Friends" where they had Chandler working in an "Office Space" situation. WENUS and TPS Cover Sheets are interchangeable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUxn0tpLes

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (Riz8t)

132
Maybe not 1915, like 1925 would be good
Posted by: San Franpsycho

1903 would be good. Too young for woodrow wilson's great war. But old enough to buy at&t at its lowest during the crash. I could sell off union pacific in 1939, and purchase general electric in 1947

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (QVmho)

133 There are always propositions not amenable to empirical analysis (and thus positivist tests) due to bad data, impossible to prove or disprove, etc. But some are to a degree.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (WDjG6)

Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (xT8gx)

134 This is an essential component of their "of course we support border control but Trump's immigration enforcement is too much, too fast and hurts too many."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (HXT0k)

135
I wonder what Dr. Jill thinks of all this -- the dotard she tried to push into a second term is now deemed the reason why Trump won.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (1N/bM)

136 that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers Democrats, literally

Its the retards who are taking the Democrats off the hook and deflecting their crimes towards the Generation that voted for Reagan once they came of age.

as fond of Reagan as I am he was the guy who was giving amnesty to millions of illegals, he was voted in by boomers

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (fHLjf)

137 Bury his head in Wilmington and his body in Scranton. Wait, what do you mean he's not quite dead yet?

Posted by: The Cemetery Sexton at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (oftw2)

138 Now for the cutest thing in the world of cats:

My big tom killed a mouse last night before I brought him in, so I let him in and gave him a treat for being brave, and left the mouse out back.

This morning I picked it up and tossed it over the fence for the neighbor's chickens. This afternoon, the youngest kitten (6 months?) found it and played haki-mouse with it, and then when she saw me watching came trotting back with it proud as can be.
So she got a good treat for being a good huntress and I tossed the remains into the compost heap.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (rbvCR)

139 a higher tax of some sort would help keep housing costs reasonable.

Bwahahaha, ha ha ha, I can't breathe, bwahahahaha
Higher taxes always bring your rent costs down, bwahahahaha

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (n5tGW)

140 There are always propositions not amenable to empirical analysis (and thus positivist tests) due to bad data, impossible to prove or disprove, etc. But some are to a degree.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (WDjG6)
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Well, it's taken as typical that Karl Popper, the synthesizer of the falsification demarcation of Science fell out of favor with and eventually debunked Carnap-ian positivism. (As Rudolph Carnap fathered the Vienna School).

After all, "Turing Machines" can never be instantiated if, by definition they have "unlimited tape". (Or no defined upper-bound, as I prefer).

So, how can Turing talk about machines that can't exist, right?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (krQz2)

141 121 I can't H8 the media enough because they are the Marxists Propaganda Ministry
Posted by: Skip

I already have high blood pressure so I simply ignore the 'news' and prefer alternative sources. If you use something like RT, Hindustan Times, and some others that probably put people on a government shit list somewhere plus X, and a few blogs, you can reasonably be knowledgeable nowadays.

I know how to find stuff, it is just I no longer want to unless it is relevant to conversations here. YMMV.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (WDjG6)

142 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (/6GbT)

143 I think Positivism, both of Comte and Vienna School, has met enough dead-ends--and really formalistic self-reference problems--that it should be able to be dispensed with unless the writer can produce a new wrinkle.

Otherwise, we must only restrict ourselves to the objective traits of objective entities, which leaves Science little to offer as well.
Posted by: Axeman
__________

You cannot derive an objective moral code from Positivism or Science. All roads lead to nihilism.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 05:10 PM (XvL8K)

144 "Joe Biden shit our pants!"
-- Democrats

It's almost plausible.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

That would be a fun bumpersticker.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (/RHNq)

145 *checks purse*

All I've got is Silly String.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Good, you can go on point, looking for trip-wires.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (rbvCR)

146 I have always found split pea soup disappointing. If youre going to make some pot of something, do chili

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (fHLjf)

147 64 "I don't know if this means the Navy, AF, et al are going to have bomber and A-10 practice areas on the border, but it would be fun."

Ever been to Yuma, Az? I pulled to the side of the road to watch the A-10s doing strafing runs. Could hear the BBBRRFFFZZT real good!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (FpP3s)

148 It was just a gag on the show "Friends" where they had Chandler working in an "Office Space" situation. WENUS and TPS Cover Sheets are interchangeable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUxn0tpLes
Posted by: Archimedes at

WENUS-week ending net usage statistics
ANUS-annual net usage statistics

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (MGB5H)

149 Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (xT8gx)
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I like Popper, too. Except that he instigated this whole "Open society" concept that Soros has advanced.

Popper was an early friend of the Vienna Circle.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (krQz2)

150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (viF8m)

151 as fond of Reagan as I am he was the guy who was giving amnesty to millions of illegals, he was voted in by boomers

I see, you are a Carter and Mondale fan.

Explain to me when X came of Age they voted for Clinton, and that is OK, or when Mills came of Age they kept voting for Obama and Biden.

But no, blame the Generation that kept voting the least damaging branch of the Uniparty.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (nCgQz)

152 That is the case with every Democrat stance. Their actions are driven by socio-political self-interest, rather than the well-being of the country. True locally as it is nationally.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Think of all the state and local government jobs we created to assist migrants to steal from the taxpayers!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (Dv3i1)

153 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackS

we have no obligations to anybody

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (fHLjf)

154
It was literally trump and Republicans who stopped a border security bill. Democrats want to fix immigration. Punishing employers of undocumented immigrants (while granting the right amount of temporary visas) would be the best route.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions

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Democrats want to fix immigration = Democrats want universal amnesty.

employers of undocumented immigrants = the evil corporations [hence Dems' call for "punishment"]

the right amount of temporary visas = 99% of applicants

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (1N/bM)

155 You cannot hate the media enough.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM

To paraphrase Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday. Yup...I hate 'em.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (jdPY0)

156 Heh-heh, meet your babies: the Red Guard. Good luck passing your purity tests, because these people don't care about your time-earned "wisdom" and "experience."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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I regret not buying red diaper futures back when Clinton was elected.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (XeU6L)

157 The leaves on my oak trees are all turning rusty. Nothing is made to last anymore

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (0U5gm)

158 150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

All blacks look alike to Minnesota DFLers. See @65

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (Dv3i1)

159 Because the Boomers kept the Somalias from buying houses, duh

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (+mUZM)

160 I see, you are a Carter and Mondale fan.

Explain to me when X came of Age they voted for Clinton, and that is OK, or when Mills came of Age they kept voting for Obama and Biden.

But no, blame the Generation that kept voting the least damaging branch of the Uniparty.

and, does not mean they did not vote him in and it happened before younger gens? why is this hard?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (fHLjf)

161 150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

Haven't they suffered enough!?! They're Black, they're poor, they're oppressed, and it's all because we colonized their country and destroyed it with our slave trade!!! I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent.

Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (JCZqz)

162 Because the Boomers kept the Somalias from buying houses, duh
Posted by: No

boomers voted for obama who brought the somalis here

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (fHLjf)

163 Big Brother is rewriting history and deleting old files and airbrushing old photos as we watch them do it.

Librarian: We are confused again here today. This is embarrassing. It's embarrassing to misplace things.

Jonathan E.: Misplaced some data?

Librarian: Hmmm.
[looks at a computer punch card]

Librarian: The whole of the 13th century. Misplaced the computers, several conventional computers. We can't find them. We're always moving things around, getting organized, my assistants and I. This - this is Zero's fault - Zero, he's the world's file cabinet. Pity, poor old 13th century.
[pause]
Librarian: Well, come along now, you want to get started, don't you?

Jonathan E.: Yes, sir.

Librarian: [takes Jonathan's coat and hat and puts them aside before they go to the room with Zero in it] This way! Now, we've lost those computers with all of the 13th century in them. Not much in the century, just Dante and a few corrupt Popes, but it's so distracting and annoying!

Posted by: Rollerball (1975) That's 50 years ago for those of you in Rio Linda at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (wVcYX)

164 So, how can Turing talk about machines that can't exist, right?
Posted by: Axeman
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At some point, as an empiricist, you have to turn away from edge cases. Interesting from a philosophical viewpoint like whether we are in a simulated universe or inside a black hole but I have enough to chew on day to day without worrying about the infinite.

Popper was an interesting case as he was a bridge from the older Age of Reason cult to the newer problems that came from areas of study that rely upon really bad data--sociology, history, political science, and even economics. Never was particularly relevant in theology, cosmology, or other fields, perhaps even quantum mechanics, where we simply cannot positively prove or disprove our theories. The observational equivalence problem also appears as you would find in studies of relativity. Simply put, our frame of reference determines our reality.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (WDjG6)

165 149 Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (xT8gx)
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I like Popper, too. Except that he instigated this whole "Open society" concept that Soros has advanced.

Popper was an early friend of the Vienna Circle.
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I think Popper originated the whole "we must be intolerant of intolerance" crap that the left all believes now. I understand where he was coming from, being a Jew who fled the Nazis and also feared Communism, but that idea smells like rancid milk now.

I've toyed with Paul Feyerabend's ideas on science, mostly because my teaching assignment includes AP Psychology (which is mostly a joke 'science'), and I like to shock people by saying that falsification doesn't matter if everyone is testing stupid questions (and almost all social science is retarded at this point).

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (UdiE9)

166 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (/6GbT)

I like it when I grate a carrot into it. It adds sweetness that can offset some of the faint bitterness of the peas.
Upper level pea soup is when you mix in both green and yellow peas, and don't try to blend it smooth

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (rbvCR)

167 You cannot derive an objective moral code from Positivism or Science. All roads lead to nihilism.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 05:10 PM (XvL8K)
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That's because you cannot derive a moral code from the particulars of instances of moralizing behavior.

Moralizing behavior is inherent in men who wants to control what he or she cannot outside their own physical enforcement. I must enlist societal "norms".

Western Civilization introduces the idea that societal norms should not necessarily be just what they are, but have a higher standard to comply with.

This is mostly alien to the pre-WC (Christian) civilization.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (krQz2)

168 I like Popper, too. Except that he instigated this whole "Open society" concept that Soros has advanced.

Popper was an early friend of the Vienna Circle.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (krQz2)

I did not know that… but his falsification ideas do make a lot of sense to me

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (xT8gx)

169 129 It's the fault of Boomers only because you now want to make it cover three decades instead of two. It's all made up shit. Your birth year does not mean you are twinsies with those born in the same year. People born twenty years apart did not have the same upbringing. It's generational astrology. And mark my words, when the Boomers are gone, it will all be the Millenials fault.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (+mUZM)

But it will never be Gen X's fault because we are fucking incredible. Unlike all you other rake-stepping slap-dick monkeyschtuppers.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (Kv5Mj)

170 50 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

I am willing to consider the claim for reparations, however then they are going to have to first be slaves.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (fHLjf)

171 146 I have always found split pea soup disappointing. If youre going to make some pot of something, do chili
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (fHLjf)

Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (/6GbT)

172 166 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (/6GbT)

I like it when I grate a carrot into it. It adds sweetness that can offset some of the faint bitterness of the peas.
Upper level pea soup is when you mix in both green and yellow peas, and don't try to blend it smooth
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (rbvCR)

There must be ham. Or bacon.

Posted by: A pork product of some kind at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (TbWk/)

173 "There were no open borders under The AutoPen Empire, and it's a good thing there were."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (25a1J)

174 @BlueBoxDav
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Sharks still follow the slave trade route from Somalia, past India, through the Straits of Malacca, across the Pacific, to Los Angeles.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (/RHNq)

175 150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

Haven't they suffered enough!?! They're Black, they're poor, they're oppressed, and it's all because we colonized their country and destroyed it with our slave trade!!! I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent.
Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (JCZqz)

Plus. the whole lightbulb head shape thing, the poor dears.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (wVcYX)

176 Boomers invented split pea soup.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (pkeXY)

177 and, does not mean they did not vote him in and it happened before younger gens? why is this hard?

The mean and median age in Congress is 53 years old. That means the Mills and X greatly outnumber Boomers.

Explain to me why you are shilling for the Democrats by taking their sins and placing it on an age group of people who voted R more than D?

Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

Why is that too hard for you to see?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (nCgQz)

178 Sharks still follow the slave trade route from Somalia, past India, through the Straits of Malacca, across the Pacific, to Los Angeles.

now it is all intermodal

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (fHLjf)

179 Open Borders Czar hardest hit ... Kommie-la 2028!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (25a1J)

180 I believe it was Karl Popper who first said "everybody wang chung tonight."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (Kv5Mj)

181 Explain to me why you are shilling for the Democrats by taking their sins and placing it on an age group of people who voted R more than D?

Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

Why is that too hard for you to see?
Posted by: Unknown

I guess you're here because somebody told you there would be no math?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (fHLjf)

182 149 Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

I don't dislike him personally but his view is bounded as well to his materialistic viewpoint.

The position I take is that is useful for some ways to observe and make sense of reality, but not enough to explain or even predict all of it.

In Hamlet, Shakespeare gives us the counter argument, "There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (WDjG6)

183 The leaves on my oak trees are all turning rusty. Nothing is made to last anymore
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM

Rust, like the evil of Democrats, never sleeps.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (jdPY0)

184 "There is an idea in some minority communities that they're entitled to rob and beat up white people as a form of what I call "Street reparations." Not official reparations, but reparations taken by people through "self-help."

There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites." Posted by: ace

The American blacks might believe in such "reparations", but Somalis (and others) just know theft as a way of life. If someone opens a door, you walk through and take all you can. Any lies along the way (taqiyya?) are acceptable, even praiseworthy.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (vbXSk)

185 Yowza people. Go look at Christmas displays or debate longbows vs crossbows or something. Even if 'boomers' skew towards Ds and genX skews MAGA (and I dont know that this is so) boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (hhkIi)

186 I have always found split pea soup disappointing. If youre going to make some pot of something, do chili
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (fHLjf)

Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible

Posted by: A dude in MI

I found a recipe to make pea soup in an instant pot, and it is fantastic, the best split pea soup I have ever had.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (0U5gm)

187 Sharks still follow the slave trade route from Somalia, past India, through the Straits of Malacca, across the Pacific, to Los Angeles.

now it is all intermodal
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (fHLjf)

Ro-Ro-'nado!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (wVcYX)

188 180 I believe it was Karl Popper who first said "everybody wang chung tonight."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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More like you wanna popper, then you take a popper. Take enough and your heart goes boom.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (WDjG6)

189 Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

it was the boomers that brough in the savages and started indocrinating the young uns. those you are complaining about are what boomers made

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (fHLjf)

190 I think Popper originated the whole "we must be intolerant of intolerance" crap that the left all believes now. I understand where he was coming from, being a Jew who fled the Nazis and also feared Communism, but that idea smells like rancid milk now.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (UdiE9)
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I actually found out, via a scholar on Popper, that Popper himself cannot be totally blamed for this. "Popper's" writing on intolerant tolerance apparently consists of TWO footnotes in his writing.

Thus it is mainly people taking crude notions of Popper and running with it.

Definitely either Popper did not foresee (or he simply can be ignored) people moving the "intolerance" goalposts to being increasingly intolerant of viewpoints on the basis of arguing that some other viewpoint is "intolerant". Thus bootstrapping the intolerance of actually more tolerant viewpoints.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (krQz2)

191 boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider
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This^^^

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM (22p5n)

192 Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible

Posted by: A dude

best of luck

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM (fHLjf)

193 Boomer Derangement Syndrome is real...but not spectacular.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM (ESVrU)

194 You cannot derive an objective moral code from Positivism or Science. All roads lead to nihilism.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 05:10 PM (XvL8K)

You can argue that morality is the formal setting out of tactics within a society that improve the possibility of success and continuation of the society, and the success of the individual within the society; though none of the moral precepts can be generated through logic, analysis of them can provide the basis of ethics, which can help leverage morality to provide greater success - hopefully providing enough understanding of the situation to determine if it is a good idea to change anything.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:21 PM (rbvCR)

195 Shouldn't you boomers be hitting up the golden corral for that 5 o'clock special? There will be extra pudding cups tonight. Get a good night's sleep so you'll have energy for that No Kings protest.

Posted by: Vote GOP! at December 12, 2025 05:21 PM (qAgpq)

196 Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM

I did that the other day. Still have about a quart. Damn that's good on a cold day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (jdPY0)

197 Walter Kirn summed this effort up as the Democrats "trying to establish a new encyclopedia entry" on this chapter of political history so that future voters will only be able to read this version of events.

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American History students in a couple generations will be taught by the AI Bot Agent ZinnGPT™ that Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election and gave America it's greatest economy in history ... until achieving an even greater economy during her third term from 2025-2029.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (25a1J)

198 Yowza people. Go look at Christmas displays or debate longbows vs crossbows or something. Even if 'boomers' skew towards Ds and genX skews MAGA (and I dont know that this is so) boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider

Shit stirring. But as a result, people have become so attached to muh generation that it is just a label, a heuristic that is useful in some analyses but worthless in a lot of others. I used to use demographics a lot for control variables simply because they worked and had predictive power. As well as for replicability of the study. Same for other groupings like traditionalistic, individualistic, and moralistic or religion.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (WDjG6)

199
Still reading the article here, you slackers. Nowhere does it consider just who was running the country, and what role sheer dementia played in Biden's acts.

"Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency." lol, the great enigma!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (1N/bM)

200 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

201 You cannot hate the media enough.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM

To paraphrase Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday. Yup...I hate 'em.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Gen. Sherman

“If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast.”

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:23 PM (XeU6L)

202 The Internet says you are wrong. Young people put Obama in office

https://tinyurl.com/cewe2sm8

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:23 PM (+mUZM)

203 boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider
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This^^^
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM

*plants Gen X flag*

SMH Johnson is right!

Posted by: RMBS Johnson at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (jdPY0)

204 200 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

Vietnam was a big slap, since some of the had to be drafted or go to college (or run like cowards).

But they were also babied, catered to, and fussed over prior to 1965 like no other generation before.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (xcxpd)

205 The Internet says you are wrong. Young people put Obama in office

https://tinyurl.com/cewe2sm8
Posted by: Nots

it is done then, internet says so

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (fHLjf)

206 *plants Gen X flag*

SMH Johnson is right!
Posted by: RMBS Johnson
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lol

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (22p5n)

207 I guess you're here because somebody told you there would be no math?

That's not an answer, that is a surrender.

its OK to admit you are wrong even though your generation is fully incapable of doing it.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (pawvM)

208
Next-to-last sentence in the article: “The American people deserve a federal government that puts their interests first,” read Mr. Trump’s executive order [upending Biden's border policy on his first day back in office].

Gee, I wonder if he has a point there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (1N/bM)

209 163 This - this is Zero's fault - Zero, he's the world's file cabinet.

somebody must've spilled some bubble-up in the fluidics.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (v3pYe)

210 142 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in
Posted by: A dude in MI

As with all chilis, stews, or soups, carrots are the key to success.

Posted by: The Green Grocer at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (oftw2)

211 Western Civilization introduces the idea that societal norms should not necessarily be just what they are, but have a higher standard to comply with.

This is mostly alien to the pre-WC (Christian) civilization.
Posted by: Axeman

These higher standards that seem like oppression to minorities and immigrants are also known as White Supremacy(TM)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (Dv3i1)

212 The Internet says you are wrong. Young people put Obama in office

https://tinyurl.com/cewe2sm8
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:23 PM (+mUZM)
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I, for one, welcome the new internet overlords!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (krQz2)

213 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

No, it was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (wVcYX)

214 Yowza people. Go look at Christmas displays or debate longbows vs crossbows or something. Even if 'boomers' skew towards Ds and genX skews MAGA (and I dont know that this is so) boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider

Shit stirring. But as a result, people have become so attached to muh generation that it is just a label, a heuristic that is useful in some analyses but worthless in a lot of others. I used to use demographics a lot for control variables simply because they worked and had predictive power. As well as for replicability of the study. Same for other groupings like traditionalistic, individualistic, and moralistic or religion.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (WDjG6)

Also known as 'Shamba lamaba ding dong' Litmus Testing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)

215 200 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?

so it once again comes down to the perfidy of the french?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (v3pYe)

216 213 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

No, it was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll!
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (wVcYX)

That also helped

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)

217 its OK to admit you are wrong even though your generation is fully incapable of doing it.
Posted by: Unknown

I am gen x , what is more, never ever have any difficulty admitting I am wrong, indeed , I am constantly considering if I am wrong about things. You should give it a whirl

Willing to be persuaded by logic and the force of reason, ever and always

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:27 PM (fHLjf)

218 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:27 PM (+mUZM)

219 199 "Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency." lol, the great enigma!

he was probably still playing with the knobs on the autopen.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (v3pYe)

220 Also known as 'Shamba lamaba ding dong' Litmus Testing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at
December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)
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How does your light shine in the Halls of Shambalamba-ding-dong?!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

221 Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

Why is that too hard for you to see?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (nCgQz)

Boomers got told "the world is messed up but you are going to be OK"
GenX got told "the world is messed up and you are screwed"
Millenials got told "you are screwed"
GenZ is being told, "we are importing people to screw you"

Before you start slinging crap, keep this in mind.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (rbvCR)

222 "Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency." lol, the great enigma!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (1N/bM)

======

Journalists always make it sound like the president is doing everything alone. He is setting policy, investigating crimes, patrolling the borders, setting Fed policy, doing the masonry work on the new ballroom, ...

But since Biden's brain has been eaten by worms, I guess we will never know why they kept the border open.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (2ap+5)

223 177 and, does not mean they did not vote him in and it happened before younger gens? why is this hard?

It means the NEED for a Leader to follow is a weakness to overcome. There is only on thing that shapes history just as it shapes the course of each Individual's lives -- the power of IDEAS.

That good ones replace the bad ones, and those at the root of it be held to pay the ultimate prices.

That any compromise between food and poison can result in nought but death.

That the only thing necessary for Evil to prosper is for good men to do absolutely nothing. Why? Because the truely evil are abetted by the Venal and the WEAK. period.

LIBS believe they can fake History and Reality just as they would fake reality (and factually did) of IceKingJOE.

Remember who did this:
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists ...." -- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.

To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance ... -- OBAMA'09

What is the vital national interest? -- JoeBiden on Retreat from Afghanistan.

Starring Agent Orange in the MissilesOfVenezuela remake during Jeffmas? What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (l657C)

224 its OK to admit you are wrong even though your generation is fully incapable of doing it.
Posted by: Unknown
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I am tail-end-boomer, and I have never had a problem admitting how much they fucked things up.

That does not mean that any successive generation hasn't fallen further, though.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (krQz2)

225 "I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent." Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt

ha .... "neuraodivergent".

Perhaps "we" need to come up with our own New Vocabulary, like the left does constantly. Neurodivergent ... well that is not precise enough.

But "gender dysphoric"? Need more "marketable" terms for "anti-American", and "godless atheist", "trust fund liberal", and "DEI incompetent".

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (vbXSk)

226 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:27 PM (+mUZM)

I have a story . . .

Posted by: Linda Blair as Regan at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (wVcYX)

227 Boomers were drafted to go to Vietnam. A lot of those died. The idiots at the colleges that protested lived on.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (+mUZM)

228 218 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.

your mom was katie porter?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (v3pYe)

229 218 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Waste of good soup. Throw boiling water or lye.

Posted by: Ghetto Lobstuh at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (oftw2)

230 As with all chilis, stews, or soups, carrots are the key to success.
Posted by: The Green Grocer at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (oftw2)

Just put carrots and potatoes in. Supposed to be cooold next 2 days. Bowl of pea soup and buttered slab of sourdough...mmmmm

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (/6GbT)

231 I am really wondering if Sundowner actually did much of anything. The minions seem to have run the shoe.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (Ia/+0)

232 220 Also known as 'Shamba lamaba ding dong' Litmus Testing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at
December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)
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How does your light shine in the Halls of Shambalamba-ding-dong?!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

Those studies were inconclusive

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (xcxpd)

233 If the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (viF8m)

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Cognitive dissonance is the Dems' best feature. They can hold as many contradictory thoughts as it takes. They have wiped out logic from their universe.

Posted by: Decaf at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (1RAfh)

234 225 "I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent." Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt

ha .... "neuraodivergent".

Perhaps "we" need to come up with our own New Vocabulary, like the left does constantly. Neurodivergent ... well that is not precise enough.

ah. i got it for you. "I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all 6-7".

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (v3pYe)

235 Boomer Derangement Syndrome is real...but not spectacular.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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I'm still trying to figure out what I have done that is so heinous. I suppose that I ought to simply accept the wisdom, experience, and insight of those 50 years younger than myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (XeU6L)

236 Our number one problem is the s*** media. If people were well-informed, 80% of them would vote against these assholes. I estimate we have about 20% hardcore lunatic left-wing totalitarians, but most Americans, if they had any idea what the f*** is going on, they would never vote for these bastards.

Our number two problem is treasonous, greedy, and quisling politicians masquerading as patriotic Americans. That's always going to be a problem because they swarm around money and power like horseflies on cow flop.

Posted by: Beverly at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (reMys)

237 it is funny how easy it is to get boomers to go nuts over criticizing the boomers. why do you care, nothing more than a term to describe who was born when?

it is fun to watch though

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (fHLjf)

238 231 I am really wondering if Sundowner actually did much of anything. The minions seem to have run the shoe.

nike air?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (v3pYe)

239 Cognitive dissonance is the Dems' best feature. They can hold as many contradictory thoughts as it takes. They have wiped out logic from their universe.
Posted by: Decaf

DoubleThink. It's essential to a smooth running EngSoc.

Posted by: 1984 at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (Dv3i1)

240 Is the new ballroom ready yet. I feel like dancin'.

Posted by: Light in Loafers at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (oftw2)

241 Nood 'week in woke'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (xcxpd)

242 And now the New York Times debases itself by imitating the behavior of vile NeverTrumpers in pretending that open borders was just something Biden came up with alone as a reaction to the Beast of the Apocalypse Donald Trump.

Posted by: Ace at 04:28 PM

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Same rationale for reversing the Evil Hitlerian Trump's "Drill Baby Drill 1.0" which gave us much cheaper energy and increased individual freedoms ... The Horror, The Horror!

[Recall:] On Day one of his "Presidency," Vegetable Puppet F. Joe Mugabe revoked approval for the Keystone XL pipeline and imposed a moratorium on oil and gas leasing on federal lands and waters (about 25% of U.S. production comes from federal areas).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (25a1J)

243
Long bows.

Amirite?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

244 Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

it was the boomers that brough in the savages and started indocrinating the young uns. those you are complaining about are what boomers made
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I'm going to withhold comment until someone explains Axl Roses's part in this mess.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (TN0g+)

245 The Duck and Cover drills didn't help. Neither did hearing the air raid alarm test every week.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (wVcYX)

246 Our number one problem is the s*** media. If people were well-informed, 80% of them would vote against these assholes. I estimate we have about 20% hardcore lunatic left-wing totalitarians, but most Americans, if they had any idea what the f*** is going on, they would never vote for these bastards.

Our number two problem is treasonous, greedy, and quisling politicians masquerading as patriotic Americans. That's always going to be a problem because they swarm around money and power like horseflies on cow flop.
Posted by: Bev

it is not media, it does not matter to anybody younger than boomers, it is the lazy that do not bother to read other, varied sources.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (fHLjf)

247 I thought the “we should be tolerant only of that which does not further intolerance” came from Marcuse and his idea that tolerating conservatism was “repressive” but suffocating it was “liberating tolerance.”

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (7kSOl)

248 Cognitive dissonance is the Dems' best feature. They can hold as many contradictory thoughts as it takes. They have wiped out logic from their universe.
Posted by: Decaf
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“We choose truth over facts!” Joe Biden

That is to say, what they hold as 'truth'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (XeU6L)

249
If the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?
Posted by: JackStraw

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That's one of the questions Gavin Newsom didn't address in that Ezra Klein interview (what we saw of it -- and I'm not going to watch a moment more).

It's also one of the questions the NY Times didn't raise.

Newsom better brace himself, because no amount of sanctimonious deflection will keep JD Vance's bullets of logic from piercing him.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (1N/bM)

250 "roiling American cities today" = Upsetting Democrats

Fuck you. War.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (m2lIk)

251 Get on the cart.

>>@jsolomonReports
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3m
>>Illinois Gov. Pritzker signs bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (viF8m)

252 Crossbows are better for fortress defense.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:39 PM (q2Q7i)

253 Newd.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:41 PM (q2Q7i)

254 I think the cut off age for boomers needs to be lowered. If you know any late boomers they are usually nothing like the early ones. While I'm thinking about it, any polices, laws, and general fuckups that helped screw this country were put in place by the the silent generation and the so called greatest generation. Boomers were too young to hold office when that shit was brewing. Well, not unless a 15 year old was able to vote to get us into vietnam. Biden, pelosi, the turtle, and all before them were not boomers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (snZF9)

255 I thought the “we should be tolerant only of that which does not further intolerance” came from Marcuse and his idea that tolerating conservatism was “repressive” but suffocating it was “liberating tolerance.”

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (7kSOl)
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Well, this can still be the case, since Popper's "contribution" was mainly, AIUI, two footnotes.

But, I believe Marcuse cites Popper, who had some cache as the premier theorist of SCIENCE!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (krQz2)

256 Berserker-Dragonheads, that is why some have come up with “Generation Jones”. My dad would, by this reckoning, be at the tail end of the Boomers, and my mom would be at the beginning of Jones. My dad was old enough to have seen the last vestiges of anti-Vietnam protests, on top of the other leftist college insanity. My mom never experienced any of that. They were only born 30 months apart.

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (7kSOl)

257 I thought VP Harris was the Border Czar?!?!

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (SRiFu)

258 Don’t you remember? There was an NPC patch during the 2024 election season that she never was. You need to keep up with your software updates, man.

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (7kSOl)

259 Ace
Actually only about 1000 to 2000 degrees are given NATIONALY EACH YEAR I in the entire USA

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 12, 2025 06:17 PM (Vip4H)

260 The average number of degrees given by a department is only 9

This is one of the things that only the hard right wingers bieve, like when Trump says "we inherited the highest inflation in history" no he didn't the inflation at the end of Bidens term was
3% about what it is right now
Trump constantly lies.

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 12, 2025 06:26 PM (Vip4H)

261 Two Grimm Fairy tales

Snow-White and Rose-Red: Two peasant sisters, a grumpy dwarf, a bear (cursed prince), no evil stepmother, published in the Grimms' 1812/1815 collection.

Snow White, published 1812, evil stepmother, lots of good dwarfs, a poison apple & glass coffin.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (NFX2v)

262 The Demonrats planted it, nirtured it, reaped it. Now live with it. They are just full of it.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at December 12, 2025 08:52 PM (bXvrr)

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