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Federal Judge Okays the Release of Epstein Grand Jury Transcripts
U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman reversed his earlier decision to keep the transcripts sealed, citing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which was enacted last month, creating a narrow exception to rules that normally keep grand jury proceedings confidential, The Associated Press reported. The law requires the government to open its files on Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell. Berman previously cautioned that the roughly 70 pages of grand jury materials slated for release are hardly revelatory. The law requires that the Justice Department release Epstein-related records to the public by Dec. 19.Based on the lack of earth-shattering disclosures so far, I think we're going to continue to not see earth-shattering disclosures. We will see the names of people we already knew were connected to Epstein, like Bill and Hillary Clinton and Clinton Energy Secretary and New Mexico governor Bill Richardson, and it will be good to have that official confirmation, but I do not expect we'll get confirmation of QAnon/Pizzagate/Tucker Carlson claims of an Israel-CIA pedophile blackmail operation. Maybe we will. We'll see. But a heuristic I apply without even thinking about it is noting the general "shape" of a theory that turns out to be true. The "shape" of a true story features drip-by-drip disclosures that, while maybe not proving the theory, nevertheless build confidence in the theory until, at some point, the theory is proven. Look at the theories that covid was man-made and specifically leaked from the Wuhan Covid Lab. (Giveaway right there, huh?) Every few weeks we got another bit of information that tended to suggest -- and sometimes strongly suggest -- that covid was man-made in the Wuhan lab. And that Anthony Fauci knew it, and bribed scientists to lie about it. The theory did not sit for years and years with no confirmatory information being discovered. In the case of a theory that does sit for years without actual evidence emerging to support it: I begin doubting that theory. As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they? And if this theory has actual evidence supporting it: Well, where is it? They say an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence but.... come on, when people are digging for the evidence and not finding it, yeah, it is at least evidence that that evidence doesn't exist. If you set out to prove dodos actually survived and spend years looking for dodos but can't find any, it does suggest that yeah, dodos probably did go extinct. If there continues to be no evidence of the Strong Form of the Epstein theory, the claims that the CIA and a foreign state, sometimes unnamed but always believed to be Israel, engaged in a huge blackmail operation against the political leadership of the United States, at some point, we have to accept that this theory, while plausible and even attractive, just isn't true. But that won't be admitted. We'll have Chromatic Aberrations all over again. Well, they're hiding the documents that prove that, that information never came out during the grand jury investigation because Israel and the CIA warned the prosecutor not to "go there," etc. As they say about capital C capital T Conspiracy Theories -- the unfalsifiable kind, the nigh-religious dogma kind -- lack of evidence of a Conspiracy Theory is just further proof of the how deep the Conspiracy goes. I was completely willing to speculate about such a multinational conspiracy theory. I didn't dismiss it out of hand. But at some point: We either need evidence for it or the people pushing it need to admit they don't care about evidence of the lack of evidence, and that in their minds, it's not a Conspiracy Theory. It's a Conspiracy Fact, period, and no contrary evidence can change that. But like I said: We'll see. It could turn out that the transcripts do point to a much bigger operation going on on Pedo Island, beyond a pedophile making his young girls available to his politically-connected, financially-connected pals. Update: It just occurred to me that people think about a foreign blackmail operation because they don't know how Epstein made his money or why he was so determined to cultivate pedo-friendships with people like Bill Clinton or Larry Summers. Well, I just remembered, we know that every Congressman winds up a millionaire in five years from stock trading. Hillary Clinton made a fortune in cattle futures in the 90s, which she always lied about, claiming she made the picks herself just by reading the Wall Street Journal. So: We know that the politically connected are routinely given non-public insider-trading information by industry insiders. Couldn't Epstein's operation just be based on simple greed? He cultivated pedo pals who had access to insider information, which he then used for his own profit, while rewarding them with access to underage girls. I'm not saying that's what was going on. I'm just offering that as a counter-explanation to the major foreign/domestic intelligence community blackmail theory.
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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Boy, NOW the wheels MUST be closing in on Trump!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)
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Willowed:
DoorDash delivery girl who filmed a drunk man passed out with his pants down makes her first court appearance
She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
DoorDash delivery girl who filmed a drunk man passed out with his pants down makes her first court appearance
She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (+Oyis)
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ok
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 01:38 PM (xcxpd)
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1 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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Yeah baby. Twice.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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Yeah baby. Twice.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 10, 2025 01:38 PM (DRSnL)
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Boy, NOW the wheels MUST be closing in on Trump!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Probably a result of the walls falling off.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Probably a result of the walls falling off.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 10, 2025 01:38 PM (ExV1e)
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Please excuse Juan and please don't release our family's files!
Posted by: Epstein's Mother at December 10, 2025 01:38 PM (oftw2)
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Based on the lack of earth-shattering disclosures so far, I think we're going to continue to not see earth-shattering disclosures.
The Biden FBI had the files for 4 years and didn't release a f*cking thing. They DO, likely, incriminate a LOT on the left, so they're really gaslighting in the hopes that they'll never be released so they can blame Trump for not releasing them.
The Biden FBI had the files for 4 years and didn't release a f*cking thing. They DO, likely, incriminate a LOT on the left, so they're really gaslighting in the hopes that they'll never be released so they can blame Trump for not releasing them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)
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Willowed:
DoorDash delivery girl who filmed a drunk man passed out with his pants down makes her first court appearance
She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (+Oyis)
That's some funny shit right there.
DoorDash delivery girl who filmed a drunk man passed out with his pants down makes her first court appearance
She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (+Oyis)
That's some funny shit right there.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 10, 2025 01:39 PM (ExV1e)
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Rick Berman?
Posted by: Mr. Plinkett at December 10, 2025 01:40 PM (wVcYX)
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Just a note on Covid, they actually found bat virus with a furin cleavage site in the wild. In Brazil, and found prior to 2019, and only recently cataloged.
This means its not impossible for it to have been a natural virus. I'd still bet on release from the lab, but it may not have been modified.
OTOH, furin cleavage is used because it's easy to add, so that doesn't rule out human modification.
Might add some tiny amount to non-lab leak potential cause.
This means its not impossible for it to have been a natural virus. I'd still bet on release from the lab, but it may not have been modified.
OTOH, furin cleavage is used because it's easy to add, so that doesn't rule out human modification.
Might add some tiny amount to non-lab leak potential cause.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 01:41 PM (IuIym)
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2 Boy, NOW the wheels MUST be closing in on Trump!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)
The screws are coming off the bus!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)
The screws are coming off the bus!!
Posted by: Hugh Jass at December 10, 2025 01:41 PM (JWsMn)
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OT already by me sorry! but I agree ace. we'll see I guess but I'm already so over this.
clearly Epstein worked for either US or a globalist IC as a honeypot. so...
meanwhile Calibri vs Times. now THAT is interesting! I missed this story this morning.
good move by Mario. very good. Calibri is a junk typeface.
overall it's easier to read serif, especially light serifs like Times. It's very much the standard, like the Helvetica of Serifs.
you could stick with a sans but you'd want to use something better than CALIBRI which is just god-awful. I guess ... I mean maybe Weissenhoff or Cabin or something nice like that, with some alteration in line width throughout.
clearly Epstein worked for either US or a globalist IC as a honeypot. so...
meanwhile Calibri vs Times. now THAT is interesting! I missed this story this morning.
good move by Mario. very good. Calibri is a junk typeface.
overall it's easier to read serif, especially light serifs like Times. It's very much the standard, like the Helvetica of Serifs.
you could stick with a sans but you'd want to use something better than CALIBRI which is just god-awful. I guess ... I mean maybe Weissenhoff or Cabin or something nice like that, with some alteration in line width throughout.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 10, 2025 01:41 PM (emBoF)
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I'm glad the p3do Epstein is dead. I don't think he committed suicide (waaaaay too many coincidences and it appears to be physically impossible), but I'm glad he's not trafficking girls anymore.
Posted by: pookysgirl, Mama Bear Extraordinaire at December 10, 2025 01:42 PM (Wt5PA)
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I want to see the real transcripts , Not THE fAKe ONEs THeY ArE rEleaSING !1
Posted by: local conspiracist and the only one with the real knowledge at December 10, 2025 01:42 PM (g47mK)
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It could turn out that the transcripts do point to a much bigger operation going on on Pedo Island, beyond a pedophile making his young girls available to his politically-connected, financially-connected pals.
***
Yes, it could.
And if so, where did they move to?
***
Yes, it could.
And if so, where did they move to?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 10, 2025 01:42 PM (iKI3U)
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If there continues to be no evidence of the Strong Form of the Epstein theory, the claims that the CIA and a foreign state, sometimes unnamed but always believed to be Israel, engaged in a huge blackmail operation against the political leadership of the United States, at some point, we have to accept that this theory, while plausible and even attractive, just isn't true.
Why would grand jury transcripts have such information? They wouldn't, of course.
If you wanted to try to prove/disprove that theory, you'd need to pursue evidence of that theory, which would be in three-letter government agency files, which we all know we are not getting.
None of this is all that hard to grasp. But some people are working awfully hard not to grasp it.
Why would grand jury transcripts have such information? They wouldn't, of course.
If you wanted to try to prove/disprove that theory, you'd need to pursue evidence of that theory, which would be in three-letter government agency files, which we all know we are not getting.
None of this is all that hard to grasp. But some people are working awfully hard not to grasp it.
Posted by: don't try to bullshit a bullshitter at December 10, 2025 01:42 PM (GNipg)
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Sponge is on fire!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 01:42 PM (xcxpd)
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If there continues to be no evidence of the Strong Form of the Epstein theory, the claims that the CIA and a foreign state, sometimes unnamed but always believed to be Israel, engaged in a huge blackmail operation against the political leadership of the United States, at some point, we have to accept that this theory, while plausible and even attractive, just isn't true.
Is the missing part of the strong theory is testimony of girls saying say "I had sex with Bill Clinton" or some sort of evidence of Clinton acting in a way that benefits a foreign actor that is otherwise inexplicable?
We have the latter, if you assume the state actor is one of Five Eyes...most notably Britain...instead of Israel. Which does also explain how a random British royal ended up with Epstein...
I suspect though that we won't see any names like Clinton in this released testimony because otherwise we'd see a lot more fighting against it.
Is the missing part of the strong theory is testimony of girls saying say "I had sex with Bill Clinton" or some sort of evidence of Clinton acting in a way that benefits a foreign actor that is otherwise inexplicable?
We have the latter, if you assume the state actor is one of Five Eyes...most notably Britain...instead of Israel. Which does also explain how a random British royal ended up with Epstein...
I suspect though that we won't see any names like Clinton in this released testimony because otherwise we'd see a lot more fighting against it.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (sKqQm)
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She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
I love this judge!
almost as much as that Florida Sheriff who went OFF on the Philly yutes who robbed a Dicks while at a football tournament...
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
I love this judge!
almost as much as that Florida Sheriff who went OFF on the Philly yutes who robbed a Dicks while at a football tournament...
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (emBoF)
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wE nEEd TO sEE rEal evIdeNCe!
Posted by: local conspiracist and the only one with the real knowledge at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (g47mK)
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My thing has always been, the government isn't entitled to the benefit of the doubt.
Do I KNOW for a fact that the Epstein op involved the CIA, MI6 and/or Mossad?
No, I don't know it. But I do know our secret agencies are anathema to a nation that intends to self-govern, so every plausible accusation that gets hurled at them, I'm going to act like I believe, even if I don't.
Because, F the Deep State, and all its international tentacles. All of them.
Do I KNOW for a fact that the Epstein op involved the CIA, MI6 and/or Mossad?
No, I don't know it. But I do know our secret agencies are anathema to a nation that intends to self-govern, so every plausible accusation that gets hurled at them, I'm going to act like I believe, even if I don't.
Because, F the Deep State, and all its international tentacles. All of them.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (dGCAG)
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Sponge is on fire!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Not my fault. I warned him to stay off the subway.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Not my fault. I warned him to stay off the subway.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)
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As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
.....
They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
.....
They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)
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Epstein.... IS ALIVE..discuss!
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)
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OT Anytime PDT appears on TV advertising Trump Watches you just know a severely afflicted person with TDS strokes out yelling at the screen.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (gm9Sb)
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23 Sponge is on fire!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Not my fault. I warned him to stay off the subway.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)
snort
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Not my fault. I warned him to stay off the subway.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)
snort
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (xcxpd)
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The government's argument under Biden was that Epstein only trafficked girls to himself, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew.
This also seems...unlikely. He made contacts with all these politicians and celebrities and the one person he shared underage girls with...and in this case barely underage...was Prince Andrew?
This also seems...unlikely. He made contacts with all these politicians and celebrities and the one person he shared underage girls with...and in this case barely underage...was Prince Andrew?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (sKqQm)
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27 OT Anytime PDT appears on TV advertising Trump Watches you just know a severely afflicted person with TDS strokes out yelling at the screen.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (gm9Sb)
The watch selling is weird to me...
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (gm9Sb)
The watch selling is weird to me...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (VE6XX)
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They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth
The dinosaurs gave them horrible gas. Thus all the CO2 in the atmosphere.
Posted by: wth
The dinosaurs gave them horrible gas. Thus all the CO2 in the atmosphere.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (77rzZ)
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I was told by someone who should know that roughly 80% of congressional votes are based on either blackmail or bribes. After watching closely for several years, I think the preponderance of the inducements are bribes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (0U5gm)
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lack of evidence of a Conspiracy Theory is just further proof of the how deep the Conspiracy goes.
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why?? do you doubt this ?!!
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why?? do you doubt this ?!!
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (g47mK)
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18 Sponge is on fire!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
For the sake of humanity, we need to throw sand in his gears!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo
For the sake of humanity, we need to throw sand in his gears!
Posted by: The Huge Manatee! at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (oftw2)
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It doesn't matter what they release. No one is ever going to be satisfied, and the conspiracy theories will continue..
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (NpAcC)
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They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
I laughed!
I would love to taste dinosaur.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
I laughed!
I would love to taste dinosaur.
Posted by: Hugh Jass at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (JWsMn)
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35 It doesn't matter what they release. No one is ever going to be satisfied, and the conspiracy theories will continue..
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (NpAcC)
This
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (NpAcC)
This
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (VE6XX)
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Dead Horses. Flogging.
Dead Horses. Flogging.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (IifOV)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Turned out to be a good day
Turned out to be a good day
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (Ia/+0)
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As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
.....
They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
After a return visit that had them building pyramids, they stopped landing.
.....
They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
After a return visit that had them building pyramids, they stopped landing.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (wVcYX)
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Dinosaurs probably tasted like alligators.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)
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If there continues to be no evidence of the Strong Form of the Epstein theory[/b ...
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Isn't it time we developed a Unified Epstein Field Theory?
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Isn't it time we developed a Unified Epstein Field Theory?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (TTNvg)
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Rick Berman?
Posted by: Mr. Plinkett
Chris Berman > Rick Berman
Signed,
Sean "Personal" Landeta
Bert "Be Home" Blyleven
Posted by: Mr. Plinkett
Chris Berman > Rick Berman
Signed,
Sean "Personal" Landeta
Bert "Be Home" Blyleven
Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (kiKFC)
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He made contacts with all these politicians and celebrities and the one person he shared underage girls with...and in this case barely underage...was Prince Andrew?
Posted by: 18-1
And how did he become a prince? I didn't vote for him.
Posted by: 18-1
And how did he become a prince? I didn't vote for him.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (0U5gm)
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I think Mike Benz's theory is mostly right: Epstein was a "broker" or dealmaker who helped governments, including our own, make shady deals and launder money (think Iran-Contra as an example). Girls were incidental to the goal, because, as Benz says, "Girls Juice Deals." It wasn't a blackmail sex sting, but just dirty, secret dealing.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (bNf8H)
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Epstein.... IS ALIVE..
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)
*lyrics in Gary Wright's trashcan
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)
*lyrics in Gary Wright's trashcan
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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One simple way to approach this is "what would persuade me that Epstein and co had no illegal connections to politicians/celebs?"
And things like releasing all the video from Epstein island that Wray seized would certainly go a long way there.
This is asking for the no-big conspiracy side to disprove something, which I admit is awkward, but the intentional destruction of evidence is its own form of evidence is it not?
And things like releasing all the video from Epstein island that Wray seized would certainly go a long way there.
This is asking for the no-big conspiracy side to disprove something, which I admit is awkward, but the intentional destruction of evidence is its own form of evidence is it not?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (sKqQm)
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"Federal Judge Okays the Release of Epstein Grand Jury Transcripts."
The walls are closing on Trump this time; the Orange Man's next address is going to be a PMIA prison. Closing in like a Jack Smith investigation. You can bank on it.
Or something like that. That is why Trump's political enemies keep stirring this empty pot.
The walls are closing on Trump this time; the Orange Man's next address is going to be a PMIA prison. Closing in like a Jack Smith investigation. You can bank on it.
Or something like that. That is why Trump's political enemies keep stirring this empty pot.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (uv8gn)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)
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Benz seems to think what Epstein was really doing was money laundering and acting as a cutout for the CIA to procure, among other things, weapons. Adnan Khashoggi, BCCI, Iran Contra, etc..
Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (pkeXY)
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32 I was told by someone who should know that roughly 80% of congressional votes are based on either blackmail or bribes. After watching closely for several years, I think the preponderance of the inducements are bribes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (0U5gm)
Disinformation, sir. Wrongthink in the first degree with felony Opining WITHOUT EVIDENCE.
Yes, many seem to have exploding net worths after being elected. But where's your proof? What's your heuristic, man?!?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:45 PM (0U5gm)
Disinformation, sir. Wrongthink in the first degree with felony Opining WITHOUT EVIDENCE.
Yes, many seem to have exploding net worths after being elected. But where's your proof? What's your heuristic, man?!?
Posted by: don't try to bullshit a bullshitter at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (GNipg)
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But Ace, what you don't realize is that Epstein was really a front man for the Clintons. And I have, right here on my desk, proof that Hil
Posted by: Eeyore at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (s0JqF)
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I hope something comes out of it, like the list of Epstein Island travelers and end this
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (Ia/+0)
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Have a holly jolly Christmas
And in case you didn't hear
Oh my golly have a holly, jolly
Christmas this year!
And in case you didn't hear
Oh my golly have a holly, jolly
Christmas this year!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (2J/Lj)
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Somebody needs to go back and get a shitload of colored yarn and pushpins.
Posted by: Taggart at December 10, 2025 01:48 PM (wVcYX)
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OTOH, furin cleavage is used because it's easy to add, so that doesn't rule out human modification.
Might add some tiny amount to non-lab leak potential cause.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 01:41 PM
I dated a girl in High school with furin cleavage. She really filled out sweaters nicely.
Might add some tiny amount to non-lab leak potential cause.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 01:41 PM
I dated a girl in High school with furin cleavage. She really filled out sweaters nicely.
Posted by: High School Jock at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (IifOV)
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Dinosaurs probably tasted like alligators.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)
Huh. Right. And rattlesnake.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)
Huh. Right. And rattlesnake.
Posted by: Hugh Jass at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (JWsMn)
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It's time for the entire Epstein episode to either shit or get off the pot.
Posted by: Don Black. Message:Now available in Cool Mint at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (ZxPkt)
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>>>None of this is all that hard to grasp. But some people are working awfully hard not to grasp it.
yup, I'm a part of the conspiracy too. Anyone who denies the conspiracy theory is, obviously, a conspirator.
Pizzagate forever.
yup, I'm a part of the conspiracy too. Anyone who denies the conspiracy theory is, obviously, a conspirator.
Pizzagate forever.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (1wjle)
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Have a holly jolly Christmas
And in case you didn't hear
Oh my golly have a holly, jolly
Christmas this year!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
Spoil the heck of that new grandson of yours, MadameM.!
And in case you didn't hear
Oh my golly have a holly, jolly
Christmas this year!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
Spoil the heck of that new grandson of yours, MadameM.!
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)
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This is asking for the no-big conspiracy side to disprove something, which I admit is awkward, but the intentional destruction of evidence is its own form of evidence is it not?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (sKqQm
Spoliation.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (sKqQm
Spoliation.
Posted by: don't try to bullshit a bullshitter at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (GNipg)
64
I’ll bet Dodos were tasty
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (IQBae)
65
Dinosaurs probably tasted like alligators.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)
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Why did the dinosaur cross the road?
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Because the chicken hadn't evolved yet.
This pun plays on the anachronism of
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)
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Why did the dinosaur cross the road?
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Because the chicken hadn't evolved yet.
This pun plays on the anachronism of
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (TTNvg)
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>>> was told by someone who should know that roughly 80% of congressional votes are based on either blackmail or bribes
yeah that was Tucker Carlson saying that some unnamed Deep State source told him that
Tucker Carlson is not a trustworthy person.
yeah that was Tucker Carlson saying that some unnamed Deep State source told him that
Tucker Carlson is not a trustworthy person.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (1wjle)
67
So soon after pride month?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (zg+Cs)
68
As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
They determined there wasn't any intelligent lifeforms down here and left.
They determined there wasn't any intelligent lifeforms down here and left.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)
69
It doesn't matter what they release. No one is ever going to be satisfied, and the conspiracy theories will continue..
Conspiracy theories are rife in authoritarian governments that control the flow of information because everyone knows they are lying but they don't necessarily know about what.
The US has backed into this same situation because of its slow roll into authoritarianism and censorship.
As Ace eludes to if the US government will lie about COVID we can't trust them on anything can we? And of course how does a nominally representative government survive when the voters know they can't trust what their government tells them?
Conspiracy theories are rife in authoritarian governments that control the flow of information because everyone knows they are lying but they don't necessarily know about what.
The US has backed into this same situation because of its slow roll into authoritarianism and censorship.
As Ace eludes to if the US government will lie about COVID we can't trust them on anything can we? And of course how does a nominally representative government survive when the voters know they can't trust what their government tells them?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (sKqQm)
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Ace, I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here. I always thought the Epstein thing was way overstated by a lot of people on our side.
I just never really understood the people that thought this was going to basically fix everything once uncovered.
Even if some of these conspiracy theories had some small grain of truth to them, I’m not really sure what it would even mean. If Epstein turned out to have some loose connection with Israeli intelligence, then what? We wholeheartedly back Hamas from here on out?
I just never really understood the people that thought this was going to basically fix everything once uncovered.
Even if some of these conspiracy theories had some small grain of truth to them, I’m not really sure what it would even mean. If Epstein turned out to have some loose connection with Israeli intelligence, then what? We wholeheartedly back Hamas from here on out?
Posted by: Maroon at December 10, 2025 01:51 PM (D7ri/)
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60 >>>None of this is all that hard to grasp. But some people are working awfully hard not to grasp it.
yup, I'm a part of the conspiracy too. Anyone who denies the conspiracy theory is, obviously, a conspirator.
Pizzagate forever.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (1wjle)
******
"Where we go one, we go all",
yup, I'm a part of the conspiracy too. Anyone who denies the conspiracy theory is, obviously, a conspirator.
Pizzagate forever.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (1wjle)
******
"Where we go one, we go all",
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 01:51 PM (NpAcC)
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I'm not giving up on any conspiracy theory until someone can adequately explain what "a map that seems pizza related" is.
Posted by: Jim at December 10, 2025 01:51 PM (CIngQ)
73
This pun plays on the anachronism of
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (TTNvg)
WELL?!? We're WAITING!!!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 01:50 PM (TTNvg)
WELL?!? We're WAITING!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)
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Did somebody say furry cleavage?
Posted by: JB Pritzger at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (2J/Lj)
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>Eat an alligator....or a crocodile.
Posted by: Sponge
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I have eaten mako shark
it's like pork
Posted by: Sponge
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I have eaten mako shark
it's like pork
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (ZxPkt)
77
U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman reversed his earlier decision to keep the transcripts sealed
I threatened myself with contempt of court. That got my attention!
I threatened myself with contempt of court. That got my attention!
Posted by: His Majesty R. Berman at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (0ZmKh)
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yup, I'm a part of the conspiracy too. Anyone who denies the conspiracy theory is, obviously, a conspirator.
Pizzagate forever.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (1wjle)
No, you're not a conspirator.
But like a lot of people who tend toward the GOP establishment or have in the past, you think of yourself as a right-thinking fellow whose views are grounded in the evidence, not like those wingnuts or kooks in your comments.
Pizzagate forever.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM (1wjle)
No, you're not a conspirator.
But like a lot of people who tend toward the GOP establishment or have in the past, you think of yourself as a right-thinking fellow whose views are grounded in the evidence, not like those wingnuts or kooks in your comments.
Posted by: don't try to bullshit a bullshitter at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (GNipg)
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Not to poke the Ace, but how many Conspiracy Theories have proven to be correct? Like, as you mention, COVID being man-made?
Hell, Pizzagate has more truth in it than lies but because some unemployed actor walked in, shot a computer and let himself get quietly arrested, that whole pedo ring is assumed to be complete fiction.
I know how disinformation works.
Anyway, we'll see. Or we won't. Some of these people involved do not mess around, there may not be much evidence left or witnesses willing to get killed.
Hell, Pizzagate has more truth in it than lies but because some unemployed actor walked in, shot a computer and let himself get quietly arrested, that whole pedo ring is assumed to be complete fiction.
I know how disinformation works.
Anyway, we'll see. Or we won't. Some of these people involved do not mess around, there may not be much evidence left or witnesses willing to get killed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (L/fGl)
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As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
There is no other intelligent life in this galaxy at least. Way too many things had to go just right for it to develop here on earth.
Those odd lights in the sky? Stealth aircraft, drones, and various other experiments, all more easily handled if people are primed to scream ALIENS any time they see a light in the sky
There is no other intelligent life in this galaxy at least. Way too many things had to go just right for it to develop here on earth.
Those odd lights in the sky? Stealth aircraft, drones, and various other experiments, all more easily handled if people are primed to scream ALIENS any time they see a light in the sky
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (sKqQm)
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Tucker is about a half step from becoming a political Art Bell and talking about the Deep Sevens being behind transgenderism. Jewish Deep Sevens. Seven branches of the Mennorah... coincidence?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (h4uy9)
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Shocking photos from the Epstein Files.
https://is.gd/1HW1MF
https://is.gd/1HW1MF
Posted by: No Name Today at December 10, 2025 01:53 PM (8mulE)
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Dinosaurs probably tasted like alligators.
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Huh. Right. And rattlesnake.
I remember trying rattlesnake one time at a "roundup" somewhere in TX. "Tastes like chicken." Yeah -- tough, greasy chicken.
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Huh. Right. And rattlesnake.
I remember trying rattlesnake one time at a "roundup" somewhere in TX. "Tastes like chicken." Yeah -- tough, greasy chicken.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 10, 2025 01:53 PM (3nLb4)
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The thing that makes me support the Strong Form is Ghislaine, Robert Maxwell's favorite daughter. He did have spook ties, and was probably on several sides at once, including Mossad.
Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at December 10, 2025 01:53 PM (XVbII)
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And see at Legalinsurrection.com the Commassar Judges have ordered the administration to not allow National Guard into LA.
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 01:53 PM (Ia/+0)
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When we take Pebbles out for a drive and stop at the drive in, there's nothing better than that giant bronto steak the car hops bring. A little salt, pepper, and a dash of A1 you're good to go.
F. Flintstone
F. Flintstone
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 10, 2025 01:53 PM (gm9Sb)
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As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
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DC, dude, DC.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (L/fGl)
*facepalm* Not this shit again!
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DC, dude, DC.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (L/fGl)
*facepalm* Not this shit again!
Posted by: Gort at December 10, 2025 01:53 PM (wVcYX)
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I dated a girl in High school with furin cleavage. She really filled out sweaters nicely.
Posted by: High School Jock
Did she shave her chest, or just let it grow?
Posted by: High School Jock
Did she shave her chest, or just let it grow?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (0U5gm)
Posted by: Guy who thinks "your mom" jokes are evergreen at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (TbWk/)
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Sigh. So it goes in a low trust society. We got there pretty fast didn't we? And once the trust is gone, it near impossible to get back.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (wBaIH)
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>>> you think of yourself as a right-thinking fellow whose views are grounded in the evidence,
yes actual evidence is important to me, guilty as charged. I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
yes actual evidence is important to me, guilty as charged. I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
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70 Ace, I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said here. I always thought the Epstein thing was way overstated by a lot of people on our side.
I just never really understood the people that thought this was going to basically fix everything once uncovered.
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With all the trips Bill Horndog Clinton took to visit Epstein Island, you'd think at least there'd be just enough more evidence to place Bill in the same room with one of Epstein's teen prostitutes.
I just never really understood the people that thought this was going to basically fix everything once uncovered.
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With all the trips Bill Horndog Clinton took to visit Epstein Island, you'd think at least there'd be just enough more evidence to place Bill in the same room with one of Epstein's teen prostitutes.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (Dv3i1)
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>Dinosaurs probably tasted like alligators.
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wait
given that dinosaurs became what we now call birds, isn't it more likely that Triceratops tasted like pheasant, or quail?
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wait
given that dinosaurs became what we now call birds, isn't it more likely that Triceratops tasted like pheasant, or quail?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (ZxPkt)
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What should be kept in mind is that the Epstein Files Transparency Act specifically states that the government is to release all non-classified information regarding the pedo.
Anything relating to his work for any intelligence outfit is going to be classified to hell and back, and we'll likely never see it.
Anything relating to his work for any intelligence outfit is going to be classified to hell and back, and we'll likely never see it.
Posted by: ballistic at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (3BwY8)
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I remember trying rattlesnake one time at a "roundup" somewhere in TX. "Tastes like chicken." Yeah -- tough, greasy chicken.
Posted by: Oddbob
If it tastes like chicken, just eat chicken. Besides, snake meat goes bad faster than shrimp.
Posted by: Oddbob
If it tastes like chicken, just eat chicken. Besides, snake meat goes bad faster than shrimp.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (0U5gm)
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The Epstein files getting the released hasn't had the impact the Dems had hoped. In fact it's blowing up in their faces. Cue Nelson Muntz on steroids and human growth hormones
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (D+mpw)
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The Pizzagate stuff is interesting.
It came out at just about the same time as the Epstein stuff.
And the common response on the left to the Strong Form Epstein argument was "This stuff is just as fake as pizzagate!!!'
That's a hell of a coincidence is it not? That a fake pedo-conspiracy theory comes out right at the same time as a real one - because remember even the weakest form of the Epstein scandal is he got protection from high levels in the government at least because of his $$$ if not for sharing women/girls...
It came out at just about the same time as the Epstein stuff.
And the common response on the left to the Strong Form Epstein argument was "This stuff is just as fake as pizzagate!!!'
That's a hell of a coincidence is it not? That a fake pedo-conspiracy theory comes out right at the same time as a real one - because remember even the weakest form of the Epstein scandal is he got protection from high levels in the government at least because of his $$$ if not for sharing women/girls...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (sKqQm)
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92 >>> you think of yourself as a right-thinking fellow whose views are grounded in the evidence,
yes actual evidence is important to me, guilty as charged. I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
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Galileo was going to tell the world that Pope Urban VII clubbed baby seals.
A guy told me.
yes actual evidence is important to me, guilty as charged. I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
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Galileo was going to tell the world that Pope Urban VII clubbed baby seals.
A guy told me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Long thought I have is these people from companies who tag along with Congressman have the extra paychecks for them.
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 01:56 PM (Ia/+0)
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but I do not expect we'll get confirmation of QAnon/Pizzagate/Tucker Carlson claims of an Israel-CIA pedophile blackmail operation.
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That's probably a reasonable expectation.
Was anyone involved in the grand jury in a position to know? AFAIK, you have testimony of the girls, and from anyone they named, and whatever documents were found on the island and admitted into evidence.
It seems like mainly you're going to find out who (we mostly already know, as you said) he had provided 'services' to, which would be reason to remove them from anything that matters (because 1.Pedo and 2. blackmail risk), except that they're all now old, dead, and otherwise irrelevant.
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That's probably a reasonable expectation.
Was anyone involved in the grand jury in a position to know? AFAIK, you have testimony of the girls, and from anyone they named, and whatever documents were found on the island and admitted into evidence.
It seems like mainly you're going to find out who (we mostly already know, as you said) he had provided 'services' to, which would be reason to remove them from anything that matters (because 1.Pedo and 2. blackmail risk), except that they're all now old, dead, and otherwise irrelevant.
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 01:56 PM (vSvIl)
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That's exactly. What a conspiracy looks like.
Posted by: Bobo, Ranee and Moneymaker at December 10, 2025 01:56 PM (Lki3J)
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97 The Epstein files getting the released hasn't had the impact the Dems had hoped. In fact it's blowing up in their faces. Cue Nelson Muntz on steroids and human growth hormones
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (D+mpw)
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It's not doing anything because the Epstein obsession is an online only affair.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 10, 2025 01:55 PM (D+mpw)
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It's not doing anything because the Epstein obsession is an online only affair.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)
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given that dinosaurs became what we now call birds, isn't it more likely that Triceratops tasted like pheasant, or quail?
Posted by: Don Black
They would be a lot easier to shoot than quail, but I would recommend something slightly larger than a twenty gauge.
Posted by: Don Black
They would be a lot easier to shoot than quail, but I would recommend something slightly larger than a twenty gauge.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 01:56 PM (0U5gm)
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>>Sean "Personal" Landeta
Bert "Be Home" Blyleven
Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (kiKFC)
+1
Also, Sean Landeta is a favourite in certain highlight/mishap reels of the mid '80s.
Bert "Be Home" Blyleven
Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 10, 2025 01:47 PM (kiKFC)
+1
Also, Sean Landeta is a favourite in certain highlight/mishap reels of the mid '80s.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 10, 2025 01:57 PM (NcvvS)
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We've gone from "The Deep State is covering up for Epstein!" to "The Dems are covering up for Epstein!" to "Trump and Israel are covering up for Epstein!" and now back to the Deep State, I think. Or Aliens. Probably aliens. Or the French Foreign Legion, because Macron's man-wife put them up to it.
It's too much, I just can't give a shit about that story anymore.
It's too much, I just can't give a shit about that story anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (uWKK8)
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Like Hillary, Old Eppie could have gotten "Investments" where the winning ones were put in his name and the losers were tax writeoffs for the broker to pay for his jets and "special services"
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (8avO+)
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104 given that dinosaurs became what we now call birds, isn't it more likely that Triceratops tasted like pheasant, or quail?
Posted by: Don Black
Dinosaurs ? What did I miss ?... Epstein had them on his Island ?
Posted by: Don Black
Dinosaurs ? What did I miss ?... Epstein had them on his Island ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (VE6XX)
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yes actual evidence is important to me, guilty as charged. I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
"Where's the fun in that?"
- - - - - Perpetual Hair Firestarter
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
"Where's the fun in that?"
- - - - - Perpetual Hair Firestarter
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)
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Fermi was one of us.
Posted by: An Alien at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (asXVI)
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79 Not to poke the Ace, but how many Conspiracy Theories have proven to be correct? Like, as you mention, COVID being man-made?
Hell, Pizzagate has more truth in it than lies but because some unemployed actor walked in, shot a computer and let himself get quietly arrested, that whole pedo ring is assumed to be complete fiction.
I know how disinformation works.
Anyway, we'll see. Or we won't. Some of these people involved do not mess around, there may not be much evidence left or witnesses willing to get killed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
We've all watched a IC-led/facilitated conspiracy to cripple and dispose of president unfold before our very eyes in real time over the last several years: Russiagate.
But they'd never use generate kompromat with honey traps involving young women or underage girls. And to believe so is super foolish, even though it's a pretty well known and enduring tactic.
Gell-Mann Amnesia is not just a river in Egypt.
Hell, Pizzagate has more truth in it than lies but because some unemployed actor walked in, shot a computer and let himself get quietly arrested, that whole pedo ring is assumed to be complete fiction.
I know how disinformation works.
Anyway, we'll see. Or we won't. Some of these people involved do not mess around, there may not be much evidence left or witnesses willing to get killed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 01:52 PM (xcxpd)
We've all watched a IC-led/facilitated conspiracy to cripple and dispose of president unfold before our very eyes in real time over the last several years: Russiagate.
But they'd never use generate kompromat with honey traps involving young women or underage girls. And to believe so is super foolish, even though it's a pretty well known and enduring tactic.
Gell-Mann Amnesia is not just a river in Egypt.
Posted by: don't try to bullshit a bullshitter at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (GNipg)
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I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
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I do not expect we'll get confirmation of QAnon/Pizzagate/Tucker Carlson claims of an Israel-CIA pedophile blackmail operation.
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Israel is just the beginning. It goes much deeper. France is involved. As is Ireland and Iceland and Finland. All the “land” countries. Oh and the NFL too.
- Candace Owens
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Israel is just the beginning. It goes much deeper. France is involved. As is Ireland and Iceland and Finland. All the “land” countries. Oh and the NFL too.
- Candace Owens
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 02:00 PM (9iyS+)
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112 If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
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That's what I read on the Internet.
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
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That's what I read on the Internet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)
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The Safari Club is not a conspiracy theory. Neither is the BCCI. Adnan Khashoggi is very real.
It's not a conspiracy theory that the CIA used the BCCI to launder money for their "projects" after Congress started to reel them in. Khashoggi was one of the world's largest international arms dealers and the guy who ran the Safari Club, an informal group of countries that used that place for off the books intel jobs. Started as an anti-Soviet organization with members such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and France. The US was never a formal member but for all intents acted like one.
This is a much more likely connection spot for a money guy like Epstein and something a lot of governments and powerful people don't want completely exposed anymore than they want sex with underage girls.
It's not a conspiracy theory that the CIA used the BCCI to launder money for their "projects" after Congress started to reel them in. Khashoggi was one of the world's largest international arms dealers and the guy who ran the Safari Club, an informal group of countries that used that place for off the books intel jobs. Started as an anti-Soviet organization with members such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran and France. The US was never a formal member but for all intents acted like one.
This is a much more likely connection spot for a money guy like Epstein and something a lot of governments and powerful people don't want completely exposed anymore than they want sex with underage girls.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2025 02:00 PM (viF8m)
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If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
That’s what George Washington always said.
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
That’s what George Washington always said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (9iyS+)
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Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
https://tinyurl.com/yc77xp5y
@bennyjohnson
Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
https://tinyurl.com/yc77xp5y
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
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106 We've gone from "The Deep State is covering up for Epstein!" to "The Dems are covering up for Epstein!" to "Trump and Israel are covering up for Epstein!" and now back to the Deep State, I think. Or Aliens. Probably aliens. Or the French Foreign Legion, because Macron's man-wife put them up to it.
It's too much, I just can't give a shit about that story anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (uWKK
Wheels within wheels, man.
The chair is against the wall.
It's too much, I just can't give a shit about that story anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (uWKK
Wheels within wheels, man.
The chair is against the wall.
Posted by: Zombie Dennis hopper at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (Lki3J)
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OK, guess I gotta be a party pooper: What are the likeliest consequences for anything likely to be learned from this disclosure? Are they meaningful? Does anything significant change?
Because I'm tired of having to constantly care about crap that's a whole lotta sound and fury signifying jack squat.
Because I'm tired of having to constantly care about crap that's a whole lotta sound and fury signifying jack squat.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (OUMaO)
120
I saw Chromatic Aberrations open for BLACKPINK at KINTEX in '17.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (TTNvg)
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I don't care about Epstein. The guy is dead, his crimes happened more than 20 years ago, and the victims (if there were any) have moved on and most likely prefer privacy.
Most people think the same as I do on this topic.
Most people think the same as I do on this topic.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (2J/Lj)
122
Isn't Candy Owens now questioning the moon landing, too?
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (77rzZ)
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If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna
Isn't that in "Shit Jefferson Said, Vol 2"?
Posted by: It's me donna
Isn't that in "Shit Jefferson Said, Vol 2"?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (MGB5H)
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87 When we take Pebbles out for a drive and stop at the drive in, there's nothing better than that giant bronto steak the car hops bring. A little salt, pepper, and a dash of A1 you're good to go.
F. Flintstone
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Disinformation! A-1 wasn't invented until 1862 AD, Mr. Flintsone!
F. Flintstone
Posted by: bill in arkansas
Disinformation! A-1 wasn't invented until 1862 AD, Mr. Flintsone!
Posted by: If That Is Even Your Name at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (oftw2)
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DoorDash delivery girl who filmed a drunk man passed out with his pants down makes her first court appearance
She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (+Oyis)
Was the passed-out drunk her customer, or another person in the home of the customer? In that case, invasion of privacy. If it was some rando on the street, or outdoors and visible from the street, then that individual had no expectation of privacy.
She pleaded not guilty & asked the judge to ban cameras in the courtroom the judge responded saying
“So now u don’t want cameras to be involved”
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 01:37 PM (+Oyis)
Was the passed-out drunk her customer, or another person in the home of the customer? In that case, invasion of privacy. If it was some rando on the street, or outdoors and visible from the street, then that individual had no expectation of privacy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (npFr7)
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We've gone from "The Deep State is covering up for Epstein!" to "The Dems are covering up for Epstein!" to "Trump and Israel are covering up for Epstein!" and now back to the Deep State, I think. Or Aliens. Probably aliens. Or the French Foreign Legion, because Macron's man-wife put them up to it.
It's too much, I just can't give a shit about that story anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (uWKK
So far too little Deep involvement is surfacing aside from blackmail material that the Feds have been running since before Epstein was born. I favor Ep as a similar meeting networking op privately for those private circles so they could avoid waiting like proles for real flights.
It's too much, I just can't give a shit about that story anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 01:58 PM (uWKK
So far too little Deep involvement is surfacing aside from blackmail material that the Feds have been running since before Epstein was born. I favor Ep as a similar meeting networking op privately for those private circles so they could avoid waiting like proles for real flights.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (8avO+)
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112 I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
You probably want some kind of proof that the French Foreign Legion killed Charlie Kirk just to send a message to his bestest friend in the whole wide world, Candace.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
You probably want some kind of proof that the French Foreign Legion killed Charlie Kirk just to send a message to his bestest friend in the whole wide world, Candace.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (uWKK8)
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And to compare potential foreign actors, I believe the "evidence" for Israel being behind Epstein is:
1) Whoever did it has an effective spy org that can keep secrets (so not the US)
2) Maxwell's father had ties to Israel
3) Israel ran a vaguely similiar op in the 60s with a "party guy" operator using honeypots and drugs to get kompromat on arab leaders
But the reason this falls apart is none of the clients seem to have been particularly favorable to Israel, unlike that op from the 60s.
So if we look at pols like Bill Clinton what was unusual about his time in office and afterwards and the most notable thing is his exceptionally close ties to Britain. Oh, and Maxwell's father also worked for British intelligence. And...they do have a more competent spy agency then we do as well...
1) Whoever did it has an effective spy org that can keep secrets (so not the US)
2) Maxwell's father had ties to Israel
3) Israel ran a vaguely similiar op in the 60s with a "party guy" operator using honeypots and drugs to get kompromat on arab leaders
But the reason this falls apart is none of the clients seem to have been particularly favorable to Israel, unlike that op from the 60s.
So if we look at pols like Bill Clinton what was unusual about his time in office and afterwards and the most notable thing is his exceptionally close ties to Britain. Oh, and Maxwell's father also worked for British intelligence. And...they do have a more competent spy agency then we do as well...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)
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Not to poke the Ace, but how many Conspiracy Theories have proven to be correct?
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None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
====
None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
130
As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
In Kalifornia, Texas, and many other states...
In Kalifornia, Texas, and many other states...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (ynpvh)
131
I suppose Epstein must really be dead and Bill Barr went through an elaborate ruse to make it look like the prison guards fell asleep, the camera was turned off, the cause of death improbable, the body wheeled out in front of cameras had the wrong earlobes, etc. that the only conclusion has to be extreme incompetence on his part. I'm slowly coming around.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (Dv3i1)
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Well, I would like to find out why ABC quashed the story. Might have just been to protect the Clintons, which would (I guess) make this sort of a yawner. ("Oh, no! The Clintons are corrupt?!")
But someone should get some notoriety for having killed it.
But someone should get some notoriety for having killed it.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (asXVI)
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122 Isn't Candy Owens now questioning the moon landing, too?
Posted by: Bulg
The Jews faked it all.
Posted by: Bulg
The Jews faked it all.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (9iyS+)
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Biden was wrong. Actual evidence was right. It was created in a lab in China, not a conspiratorial belief that the origin had nothing to do with labs and China that Biden and his flunkies tried to instill.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)
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OK, guess I gotta be a party pooper: What are the likeliest consequences for anything likely to be learned from this disclosure? Are they meaningful? Does anything significant change?
Because I'm tired of having to constantly care about crap that's a whole lotta sound and fury signifying jack squat.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (OUMaO)
The fact that everyone is so twitchy about it on both sides means there is some there there. And its not just embarrassment, as they have no shame.
Because I'm tired of having to constantly care about crap that's a whole lotta sound and fury signifying jack squat.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (OUMaO)
The fact that everyone is so twitchy about it on both sides means there is some there there. And its not just embarrassment, as they have no shame.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:03 PM (8avO+)
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112 I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it.
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
Well damn! All those EweToob vids of AI robot girls must be real!
Posted by: ace at December 10, 2025 01:54 PM (1wjle)
If it's on the Internet it's true.... Right ?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)
Well damn! All those EweToob vids of AI robot girls must be real!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:03 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Coal Mine Trannny at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (RNeiL)
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Furry cleavage?
Posted by: Rule 34 at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (wVcYX)
139
Next ace is gonna be telling me lizard people are just a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (MGB5H)
140
Usually the larger the institution, the bigger the lie.
Posted by: thug dolphin at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (EyfuW)
141
Remember the left's Grand Epstein Theory is:
- Epstein had an island where he sold girls under the age of 17 to rich and powerful
- The only clients, though were Trump (and Republicans)
- When Epstein was arrested, the FBI covered up all of Trump's trips; (and planted Democrats in the logs)
- The DOJ under Obama kept that policy
- The FBI--that was spying on Trump during his entire Presidency--also
- And Biden's DOJ as well
- the Democrats (after sitting on the Epstein matter for decades) only want justice for the girls (not a one who has ever said they were forced against their will to engage in sex acts).
- Epstein had an island where he sold girls under the age of 17 to rich and powerful
- The only clients, though were Trump (and Republicans)
- When Epstein was arrested, the FBI covered up all of Trump's trips; (and planted Democrats in the logs)
- The DOJ under Obama kept that policy
- The FBI--that was spying on Trump during his entire Presidency--also
- And Biden's DOJ as well
- the Democrats (after sitting on the Epstein matter for decades) only want justice for the girls (not a one who has ever said they were forced against their will to engage in sex acts).
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (HXT0k)
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Over the years, I have become a bit of a connoisseur of conspiracy theories. I spent a LOT of time on the Russia Hoax stuff.
That example proved to me, that yes, conspiracies can be real. And involve the powerful etc.
But it also showed me how some things line up and some don't. So I took a peek at Pizzagate for fun.
You could see a lot of puzzle pieces lining up, but they just didn't have enough to resolve. So people pattern match really hard to will it into existence. Its natural.
Epstein seems the same - there is metric ton of smoke....but some parts are being willed into existence.
He was a perverted freak who liked to do weird shit to girls...he had a woman help him find new girls...this is all real...but its the next step: did he set up girls for his politico buddies?
Prince Andrew? maybe
or maybe he just has big parties on his islands and tons of young women are more than willing to party with rich men...doiesn't need ANY blackmail.
That example proved to me, that yes, conspiracies can be real. And involve the powerful etc.
But it also showed me how some things line up and some don't. So I took a peek at Pizzagate for fun.
You could see a lot of puzzle pieces lining up, but they just didn't have enough to resolve. So people pattern match really hard to will it into existence. Its natural.
Epstein seems the same - there is metric ton of smoke....but some parts are being willed into existence.
He was a perverted freak who liked to do weird shit to girls...he had a woman help him find new girls...this is all real...but its the next step: did he set up girls for his politico buddies?
Prince Andrew? maybe
or maybe he just has big parties on his islands and tons of young women are more than willing to party with rich men...doiesn't need ANY blackmail.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (IuIym)
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I don't like believing some crap just because Some Guy on the internet said it and I thought it was pretty neat when I first heard it. Posted by: ace
This is sort of what I ask myself every time a read the articles here. On the other hand the animal videos are pretty solid.
This is sort of what I ask myself every time a read the articles here. On the other hand the animal videos are pretty solid.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 02:04 PM (uv8gn)
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Eat an alligator....or a crocodile.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM
There's good eatin' on one of those things.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 01:49 PM
There's good eatin' on one of those things.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (bFu5X)
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Well damn! All those EweToob vids of AI robot girls must be real!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December
So are the hot singles in your area.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December
So are the hot singles in your area.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (MGB5H)
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Not to poke the Ace, but how many Conspiracy Theories have proven to be correct?
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None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
Somebody put reflectors on the moon you can fire a laser at and get a strong return signals. Move the lazer a few meters away and the return goes to 0.
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None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
Somebody put reflectors on the moon you can fire a laser at and get a strong return signals. Move the lazer a few meters away and the return goes to 0.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (8avO+)
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Hey honey, wanna try the lizard position tonight?
Posted by: thug dolphin at December 10, 2025 02:06 PM (EyfuW)
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None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
Posted by: runner
Next you'll be telling me that there was never a Pope Joan.
Posted by: runner
Next you'll be telling me that there was never a Pope Joan.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:06 PM (77rzZ)
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And to compare potential foreign actors, I believe the "evidence" for Israel being behind Epstein is:
1) Whoever did it has an effective spy org that can keep secrets (so not the US)
2) Maxwell's father had ties to Israel
3) Israel ran a vaguely similiar op in the 60s with a "party guy" operator using honeypots and drugs to get kompromat on arab leaders
--
Epstein was a Jew, and it's increasingly popular to apply the guilt of any one Jew to all of them.
1) Whoever did it has an effective spy org that can keep secrets (so not the US)
2) Maxwell's father had ties to Israel
3) Israel ran a vaguely similiar op in the 60s with a "party guy" operator using honeypots and drugs to get kompromat on arab leaders
--
Epstein was a Jew, and it's increasingly popular to apply the guilt of any one Jew to all of them.
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 02:06 PM (vSvIl)
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If there was anything salacious in these “files” it would have been leaked long ago. You don’t think either reps or dems would have used it during an election? This stuff was around during Clinton, GWB, Obama and Trump.
And none of them used it against their political enemies? Sure, Jan.
And none of them used it against their political enemies? Sure, Jan.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 02:06 PM (9iyS+)
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131 I suppose Epstein must really be dead and Bill Barr went through an elaborate ruse to make it look like the prison guards fell asleep..."
No one needs to set up any kind of ruse to establish that prison guards, especially Federal *cough*BLACK WOMEN*cough* prison guards, regularly sleep on the job.
No one needs to set up any kind of ruse to establish that prison guards, especially Federal *cough*BLACK WOMEN*cough* prison guards, regularly sleep on the job.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 02:06 PM (uWKK8)
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It was just an ordinary pillow, they said. Try it out, they said.
Posted by: Associate Justice Scalia at December 10, 2025 02:06 PM (wVcYX)
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DoorDash girl is a real cunting bitch. Illegally videos a naked drunk guy inside his home, uploads to TT, then claims he sexually assaulted her when she gets arrested.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (W2iHN)
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Somebody put reflectors on the moon you can fire a laser at and get a strong return signals. Move the lazer a few meters away and the return goes to 0.
Posted by: Oldcat at
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: Oldcat at
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
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And somehow we all mentally jumped from "there is paperwork of Epsteins" to "he has a file he uses to blackmail people."
The Clinton painting and making jokey binders helped this.
Epstein Files may not actually exist. As a special file.
if its just his emails and shit, that may not prove anything.
I mean if there's a photo of Bill Clinton getting a BJ from two girls, I would also NOT be surprised.
The Clinton painting and making jokey binders helped this.
Epstein Files may not actually exist. As a special file.
if its just his emails and shit, that may not prove anything.
I mean if there's a photo of Bill Clinton getting a BJ from two girls, I would also NOT be surprised.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (IuIym)
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I'm not saying that's what was going on. I'm just offering that as a counter-explanation to the major foreign/domestic intelligence community blackmail theory.
Posted by: Ace at 01:36 PM
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That's a good theory, Ace. It should be relatively easy to track where his money came from ... I imagine lots of 5-9-figure deposits.
Posted by: Ace at 01:36 PM
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That's a good theory, Ace. It should be relatively easy to track where his money came from ... I imagine lots of 5-9-figure deposits.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (TTNvg)
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Really basic and all, but exactly what was the Grand Jury considering? Whether to charge Epstein and Ghislaine with human trafficking? Where would "the CIA and a foreign state, sometimes unnamed but always believed to be Israel, engaged in a huge blackmail operation against the political leadership of the United States" come in?
Really basic and all, but exactly what was the Grand Jury considering? Whether to charge Epstein and Ghislaine with human trafficking? Where would "the CIA and a foreign state, sometimes unnamed but always believed to be Israel, engaged in a huge blackmail operation against the political leadership of the United States" come in?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (1N/bM)
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@bennyjohnson
Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
https://tinyurl.com/yc77xp5y
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
She's on FIRE.
Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
https://tinyurl.com/yc77xp5y
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
She's on FIRE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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Somebody put reflectors on the moon you can fire a laser at and get a strong return signals. Move the lazer a few meters away and the return goes to 0.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (8avO+)
also "weird" how some paleontologists just happen to show up where dinosaur bones are buried. tell me another...
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (8avO+)
also "weird" how some paleontologists just happen to show up where dinosaur bones are buried. tell me another...
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (g47mK)
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145 Well damn! All those EweToob vids of AI robot girls must be real!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December
So are the hot singles in your area.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (MGB5H)
I hear they were especially hot during COVID...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December
So are the hot singles in your area.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (MGB5H)
I hear they were especially hot during COVID...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (ynpvh)
161
And what about that face on Mars, anyway?
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (77rzZ)
162
None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
None, eh?
Well with that exhaustive list, I am utterly convinced. The Offical Narrative has always been proven correct. There has never been a conspiracy theory proven, you heard it here.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
None, eh?
Well with that exhaustive list, I am utterly convinced. The Offical Narrative has always been proven correct. There has never been a conspiracy theory proven, you heard it here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (xcxpd)
163
There's good eatin' on one of those things.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (bFu5X)
I've had alligator, but do everything possible to avoid alligator fat. THAT stuff is VILE.
There's good eatin' on one of those things.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (bFu5X)
I've had alligator, but do everything possible to avoid alligator fat. THAT stuff is VILE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)
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I mean if there's a photo of Bill Clinton getting a BJ from two girls, I would also NOT be surprised
2 Girls 1 Cuck
2 Girls 1 Cuck
Posted by: Oh noes ! at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (HcoTw)
165
Biden was wrong. Actual evidence was right. It was created in a lab in China, not a conspiratorial belief that the origin had nothing to do with labs and China that Biden and his flunkies tried to instill.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)
And the wet market they tried to use as the location for a natural origin was across the street -- and Chinese workers will do almost anything for a quick buck. Violations of biosecurity were common at that lab and recorded.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)
And the wet market they tried to use as the location for a natural origin was across the street -- and Chinese workers will do almost anything for a quick buck. Violations of biosecurity were common at that lab and recorded.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (8avO+)
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DoorDash girl is a real cunting bitch. Illegally videos a naked drunk guy inside his home, uploads to TT, then claims he sexually assaulted her when she gets arrested.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
She asked for no camera in the court room. And the judge was like oh now you don't like cameras.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
She asked for no camera in the court room. And the judge was like oh now you don't like cameras.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (MGB5H)
167
Not to poke the Ace, but how many Conspiracy Theories have proven to be correct?
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Clinton created a dossier of lies about Trump and passed them around to the FBI and the media.
That happened.
That is literally the definition of a conspiracy.
--
Clinton created a dossier of lies about Trump and passed them around to the FBI and the media.
That happened.
That is literally the definition of a conspiracy.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (IuIym)
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122 Isn't Candy Owens now questioning the moon landing, too?
Posted by: Bulg
Why is every young black woman in America screaming "PAY "TENSHUN TA ME!"
Posted by: Bulg
Why is every young black woman in America screaming "PAY "TENSHUN TA ME!"
Posted by: Auspex at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (Y8DZL)
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Couldn't Epstein's operation just be based on simple greed? He cultivated pedo pals who had access to insider information, which he then used for his own profit, while rewarding them with access to underage girls.
Except civilians get hammered for insider trading. That's not the likely route without government license, in the informal sense. Being the clearinghouse/launderer for governments makes more sense because it comes with implicit approval.
Except civilians get hammered for insider trading. That's not the likely route without government license, in the informal sense. Being the clearinghouse/launderer for governments makes more sense because it comes with implicit approval.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)
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Fuel tank mishap. Errant spark.
Posted by: TWA 800 at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (wVcYX)
172
Erika Kirk is going to cause some head explosion when she goes on CBS and does town hall with Bari Weiss. Scheduled for 12/13.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (g47mK)
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If you set out to prove dodos actually survived and spend years looking for dodos but can't find any, it does suggest that yeah, dodos probably did go extinct.
* nods *
* nods *
Posted by: a coelacanth at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (nhCoE)
174
And what about that face on Mars, anyway?
Posted by: Bulg
Turned out to be Rosie O'Donnell's face.
Posted by: Bulg
Turned out to be Rosie O'Donnell's face.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (uv8gn)
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Conspiracies involving any goodly number of people should be even more difficult to pull off today, what with us all carrying recording devices. There's always somebody that didn't get paid, or paid enough, to keep quiet.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (XvL8K)
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158 @bennyjohnson
Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
https://tinyurl.com/yc77xp5y
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
She's on FIRE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)
My son showed me a pic of a Charley Kirk Shotglass...yeah, quite the poor taste. Same person probably had soap made at Schicklgruber's concentration camps.
Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
https://tinyurl.com/yc77xp5y
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 02:01 PM (NpAcC)
She's on FIRE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)
My son showed me a pic of a Charley Kirk Shotglass...yeah, quite the poor taste. Same person probably had soap made at Schicklgruber's concentration camps.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (ynpvh)
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This also seems...unlikely. He made contacts with all these politicians and celebrities and the one person he shared underage girls with...and in this case barely underage...was Prince Andrew?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (sKqQm)
Is there any evidence at all that Epstein trafficked very under-aged girls (or boys)?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (sKqQm)
Is there any evidence at all that Epstein trafficked very under-aged girls (or boys)?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (npFr7)
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also "weird" how some paleontologists just happen to show up where dinosaur bones are buried. tell me another...
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (g47mK)
Its evolution. The paleontologists go out at random, but the ones that go to non fossil bearing areas die out because they don't get grants.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (g47mK)
Its evolution. The paleontologists go out at random, but the ones that go to non fossil bearing areas die out because they don't get grants.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (8avO+)
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Absolutely nobody would be talking about Epstein anymore had Trump just released everything like he promised at the beginning of his term.
I don’t think Trump had anything to do with any of the nefarious stuff of Epstein, very clear that they hated each other. But Trumps own embarrassment about being basically in the same room with Epstein and pals at one time is why he tried to hide it, and I think that’s what made the whole thing way bigger than it should’ve been
I don’t think Trump had anything to do with any of the nefarious stuff of Epstein, very clear that they hated each other. But Trumps own embarrassment about being basically in the same room with Epstein and pals at one time is why he tried to hide it, and I think that’s what made the whole thing way bigger than it should’ve been
Posted by: Maroon at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (D7ri/)
180
>>There's good eatin' on one of those things.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (bFu5X)
A fat-bellied stogie-sucker. And them's good eatin'!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:05 PM (bFu5X)
A fat-bellied stogie-sucker. And them's good eatin'!
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (NcvvS)
181
"That's a good theory, Ace. It should be relatively easy to track where his money came from ... I imagine lots of 5-9-figure deposits."
People forget he was operating in the 1980's
So his specialty was European bonds and markets etc. Which sounds dumb today because you can just buy index funds online.
BUT IN THE 1980'S you might actually need someone to do the paperwork etc. Thus, he could make money.
People forget he was operating in the 1980's
So his specialty was European bonds and markets etc. Which sounds dumb today because you can just buy index funds online.
BUT IN THE 1980'S you might actually need someone to do the paperwork etc. Thus, he could make money.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (IuIym)
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162 None. there was a moon landing, fire can melt steel, COVID was always a lab created bug; the conspiracy theory with COVID was that is was not a China lab product; that was the conspiracy that Biden tried to promote.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
None, eh?
Well with that exhaustive list, I am utterly convinced. The Offical Narrative has always been proven correct. There has never been a conspiracy theory proven, you heard it here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (xcxpd)
That's because once it's proven, it's no longer a conspiracy theory...
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:02 PM (g47mK)
None, eh?
Well with that exhaustive list, I am utterly convinced. The Offical Narrative has always been proven correct. There has never been a conspiracy theory proven, you heard it here.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (xcxpd)
That's because once it's proven, it's no longer a conspiracy theory...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (ynpvh)
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175 Conspiracies involving any goodly number of people should be even more difficult to pull off today, what with us all carrying recording devices. There's always somebody that didn't get paid, or paid enough, to keep quiet.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
There are ways, permanent ways, to keep people quiet.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
There are ways, permanent ways, to keep people quiet.
Posted by: H.R. Clinton at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (Dv3i1)
184
Somebody put reflectors on the moon you can fire a laser at and get a strong return signals. Move the lazer a few meters away and the return goes to 0.
Posted by: Oldcat
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
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I'm imagining a future moon base with cats that chase the misdirected lasers ...
Posted by: Oldcat
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
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I'm imagining a future moon base with cats that chase the misdirected lasers ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (TTNvg)
185
If I remember DoorDash girl claimed the front door was open and she just walked in and found him passed out on the couch like that. And she filmed him.
But she was such a genius that she filmed herself turning the knob and opening the door before she went in. Ooops.
But she was such a genius that she filmed herself turning the knob and opening the door before she went in. Ooops.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (uWKK8)
186
Lone gunman. Single-bullet theory.
Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (wVcYX)
187
Is there any evidence at all that Epstein trafficked very under-aged girls (or boys)?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (npFr7)
Depends on what you mean by 'very'. A teen with a Senator, say, is that 'very'?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (npFr7)
Depends on what you mean by 'very'. A teen with a Senator, say, is that 'very'?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (8avO+)
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IIRC "fire can't melt steel", at least at the temperature at the WTC. But it can dramatically weaken steel's strength causing building support beams to fail catastrophically.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (sKqQm)
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And the wet market they tried to use as the location for a natural origin was across the street -- and Chinese workers will do almost anything for a quick buck. Violations of biosecurity were common at that lab and recorded.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (8avO+)
the Ruskies were hinting from the beginning (and they would know from bugs) that is had "elements" that were unnatural, that is genetically engineered.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:08 PM (8avO+)
the Ruskies were hinting from the beginning (and they would know from bugs) that is had "elements" that were unnatural, that is genetically engineered.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (g47mK)
190
If you set out to prove dodos actually survived and spend years looking for dodos but can't find any, it does suggest that yeah, dodos probably did go extinct.
I've always had an interest in cryptozoology, and it can be done right when done by professional zoologists.
But there a lot of nonprofessional zoologists doing it who are just whack.
I've always had an interest in cryptozoology, and it can be done right when done by professional zoologists.
But there a lot of nonprofessional zoologists doing it who are just whack.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (77rzZ)
191
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
This is why China should NEVER have access to the moon. And probably not Russia, either.
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
This is why China should NEVER have access to the moon. And probably not Russia, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)
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Unless Abraham Zapruder had a boat offshore from Little Saint James Island and was tinkering with his camera, I won't believe anything at this point.
Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (oraVG)
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>>Erika Kirk goes absolutely SCORCHED EARTH against evil people monetizing Charlie Kirk's death and attacking her family and the families of those close to Charlie and TPUSA.
Tim Pool went pretty ballistic on Candace Ovens.
Tim Pool went pretty ballistic on Candace Ovens.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (TR2dy)
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"Is there any evidence at all that Epstein trafficked very under-aged girls (or boys)?"
No. He had some girls who maybe lied about their age or he liked 17 year olds.
He was weird, he would watch them do stuff to each other.
So he probably mainly had 18-20 year olds at his parties...impressionable women who would WANT to fly to the Caribbean for a party with rich and powerful men.
You don't need blackmail for that to still work.
You just need men to want young women and young women to want $$$. And Epstein wants influence so he has parties.
No. He had some girls who maybe lied about their age or he liked 17 year olds.
He was weird, he would watch them do stuff to each other.
So he probably mainly had 18-20 year olds at his parties...impressionable women who would WANT to fly to the Caribbean for a party with rich and powerful men.
You don't need blackmail for that to still work.
You just need men to want young women and young women to want $$$. And Epstein wants influence so he has parties.
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (IuIym)
195
I saw Single Bullet Theory open for Single Gun Theory at The Arlington Gun Show in '14.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)
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A fat-bellied stogie-sucker. And them's good eatin'!
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM
*golf clap*
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM
*golf clap*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (bFu5X)
197
>>Really basic and all, but exactly what was the Grand Jury considering? Whether to charge Epstein and Ghislaine with human trafficking? Where would "the CIA and a foreign state, sometimes unnamed but always believed to be Israel, engaged in a huge blackmail operation against the political leadership of the United States" come in?
I tend to think Benz is right at least in the big picture of Epstein. It's not so much a matter of blackmail as it is governments including ours were doing some shady shit around the time of the Boland Amendment and intel agencies needed a back channel way of running their ops like Iran Contra and they don't want all of that stuff coming out.
I tend to think Benz is right at least in the big picture of Epstein. It's not so much a matter of blackmail as it is governments including ours were doing some shady shit around the time of the Boland Amendment and intel agencies needed a back channel way of running their ops like Iran Contra and they don't want all of that stuff coming out.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (viF8m)
198
The Covid being man-made was pointed out by a few prominent, well respected, individuals who knew what they were talking about.
Those paying attention noticed the organized manner in which their character and careers were attacked.
Plus. The way they wanted to handle it smelled to high heaven.
Six feet distance? WTH did thst come from?
Everyone has to quarantine? Normally it's just the vulnerable populations lsuch as the elderly.
Then they claimed how super contagious and deadly it was, but said it was safe when bunches of leftists gathered together to "protest".
When it comes to whether or not there is a conspiracy, there is usually solid evidence indicating such.
Right now all we have is accusations and suspicions.
Those paying attention noticed the organized manner in which their character and careers were attacked.
Plus. The way they wanted to handle it smelled to high heaven.
Six feet distance? WTH did thst come from?
Everyone has to quarantine? Normally it's just the vulnerable populations lsuch as the elderly.
Then they claimed how super contagious and deadly it was, but said it was safe when bunches of leftists gathered together to "protest".
When it comes to whether or not there is a conspiracy, there is usually solid evidence indicating such.
Right now all we have is accusations and suspicions.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (uKEdu)
199
Tim Pool is a day late, but better late than never, yes ?
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (g47mK)
200
You wanna read about an actual historical conspiracy that panned out? Check out The Sicilian Vespers by Steven Runciman.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (77rzZ)
201
188 IIRC "fire can't melt steel", at least at the temperature at the WTC. But it can dramatically weaken steel's strength causing building support beams to fail catastrophically.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (sKqQm)
Yup. Consider that along with the initial blast from the planes crashing into the buildings stripping off the fire retardant off the steel beams...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM (sKqQm)
Yup. Consider that along with the initial blast from the planes crashing into the buildings stripping off the fire retardant off the steel beams...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (ynpvh)
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so who is the conspiracist, Galileo or the Catholic Church ?
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (g47mK)
203
Is there any evidence at all that Epstein trafficked very under-aged girls (or boys)?
Giuffre said she saw Clinton there with "two young girls" - so since she was 17 at the time would I assume mean they were significantly younger then her.
Is there any evidence at all that Epstein trafficked very under-aged girls (or boys)?
Giuffre said she saw Clinton there with "two young girls" - so since she was 17 at the time would I assume mean they were significantly younger then her.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (sKqQm)
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156 That's a good theory, Ace. It should be relatively easy to track where his money came from ... I imagine lots of 5-9-figure deposits.
6-7-figure deposits > 5-9-figure deposits
6-7-figure deposits > 5-9-figure deposits
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (sGtp+)
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How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
This is why China should NEVER have access to the moon. And probably not Russia, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
This is why China should NEVER have access to the moon. And probably not Russia, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: Gru at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (bFu5X)
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"the Ruskies were hinting from the beginning (and they would know from bugs) that is had "elements" that were unnatural, that is genetically engineered."
The furin cleavage.
Common thing to add to viruses.
We just found they exist in bats in Brazil.
naturally.
But its also something that can be done by man, so....
The furin cleavage.
Common thing to add to viruses.
We just found they exist in bats in Brazil.
naturally.
But its also something that can be done by man, so....
Posted by: coba at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (IuIym)
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They must have purged the 'real' evidence long ago.
But seriously, RASH Patel and Pam BLONDIE really screwed the hooch and the GOPe ain't ever helping matters.
The only thing that'll get them going at this point is if one of their own base shoots one of 'em dead who actually has a REAL gripe because he was affected by something that could have not occurred if they'd voted it away and then a red-hot jury does jury nullification.
Nobody in the GOPe fears for their livelihoods.
In minecraft that would leave one thing left. I hope they come to their senses before reality comes to that eventuality.
But seriously, RASH Patel and Pam BLONDIE really screwed the hooch and the GOPe ain't ever helping matters.
The only thing that'll get them going at this point is if one of their own base shoots one of 'em dead who actually has a REAL gripe because he was affected by something that could have not occurred if they'd voted it away and then a red-hot jury does jury nullification.
Nobody in the GOPe fears for their livelihoods.
In minecraft that would leave one thing left. I hope they come to their senses before reality comes to that eventuality.
Posted by: geewhiz at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (V87Oy)
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Tim Pool went pretty ballistic on Candace Ovens.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (TR2dy)
He blames her for his house getting shot up.
Tim Pool went pretty ballistic on Candace Ovens.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:13 PM (TR2dy)
He blames her for his house getting shot up.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
209
I hope that inflation thing is under control...
@Breaking911 10m
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Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (mlg/3)
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Well that would prove a govt conspiracy not debunk it. The SEC woul look at the timing of trades and any private citizen that does very well gets spit out by an algorithm. Then they check them for insider contacts. He would have been redflagged.
He maded his money of Wexner. And parlayed that into credibilty. There is a lot of stuff there.
He maded his money of Wexner. And parlayed that into credibilty. There is a lot of stuff there.
Posted by: Regular American at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (AoMt0)
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The Apollo landing sites have been photographed from lunar orbit.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (TR2dy)
213
I've had alligator, but do everything possible to avoid alligator fat. THAT stuff is VILE.
Posted by: Sponge
Grandma used to make turtle soup. She said the same thing about turtle fat.
Is all reptile fat inedibly gross?
Posted by: Sponge
Grandma used to make turtle soup. She said the same thing about turtle fat.
Is all reptile fat inedibly gross?
Posted by: mikeski at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (nhCoE)
214
I've been in hiding for years like the Epstein Files.
Posted by: The Giant Sloth at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (oftw2)
215
The Apollo landing sites have been photographed from lunar orbit.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
20th Century Fox.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
20th Century Fox.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
216
The Door Dash Girl is an influencer. She let herself in for her video shoot assault, which was recorded by the drunk's Ring camera.
It happened in Oswego, NY where 60% are passed out drunk and naked on their couches.
Funny old world.
It happened in Oswego, NY where 60% are passed out drunk and naked on their couches.
Funny old world.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 10, 2025 02:17 PM (wBaIH)
217
Just a thought here, and something that's bugged me for a long time: if the same tag is applied to the creep who nails 16-year-olds as is applied to the monster who molests 8-year-olds, that's a category error.
Speaking as someone who has never gone past first base with anyone younger than myself and has a relative by marriage who was molested starting when she was in kindergarten. If that bastard ever gets out of jail, there are a few men I know who would not hesitate to SSS.
Speaking as someone who has never gone past first base with anyone younger than myself and has a relative by marriage who was molested starting when she was in kindergarten. If that bastard ever gets out of jail, there are a few men I know who would not hesitate to SSS.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 10, 2025 02:17 PM (NcvvS)
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so who is the conspiracist, Galileo or the Catholic Church ?
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (g47mK)
Galileo's main problem was publishing a tract that had a dude named "Idiot" (Simplicio) giving the mainline Papal position on Astronomy when he'd been warned not to make waves.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:14 PM (g47mK)
Galileo's main problem was publishing a tract that had a dude named "Idiot" (Simplicio) giving the mainline Papal position on Astronomy when he'd been warned not to make waves.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:17 PM (8avO+)
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poor reptiles
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:17 PM (g47mK)
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Read the content, posting my thought before I go back and read the comments:
There's _probably_ not an intel op behind it BUT, if there was, I see no reason to involve foreign groups - our own IC groups like to have pet politicians as many ways as possible, after all.
There's _probably_ not an intel op behind it BUT, if there was, I see no reason to involve foreign groups - our own IC groups like to have pet politicians as many ways as possible, after all.
Posted by: RandomDave at December 10, 2025 02:17 PM (aJQbY)
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>>Tim Pool is a day late, but better late than never, yes ?
Yeah...day late and a dollar short. But he will provide cover for others to finally call out that insane cunt.
Yeah...day late and a dollar short. But he will provide cover for others to finally call out that insane cunt.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (TR2dy)
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So he probably mainly had 18-20 year olds at his parties...impressionable women who would WANT to fly to the Caribbean for a party with rich and powerful men.
This is an interesting possibility we do know in plenty of other contexts there are young but legal and more or less willing women selling sex for money/opportunities to rich men - the whole yacht girl thing.
And the government could claim they can't release this because there is nothing illegal about it. But...they haven't made that claim have they?
Also, we do have claims from Guiffre and others that there were girls younger then them there.
This is an interesting possibility we do know in plenty of other contexts there are young but legal and more or less willing women selling sex for money/opportunities to rich men - the whole yacht girl thing.
And the government could claim they can't release this because there is nothing illegal about it. But...they haven't made that claim have they?
Also, we do have claims from Guiffre and others that there were girls younger then them there.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (sKqQm)
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The Apollo landing sites have been photographed from lunar orbit.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
20th Century Fox.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
You missed a chance to mention "Capricorn One"
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
20th Century Fox.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
You missed a chance to mention "Capricorn One"
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)
224
As real as real can be!
Posted by: Bigfoot, Nessie, Chupacabra at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (wVcYX)
225
A fat-bellied stogie-sucker. And them's good eatin'!
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (NcvvS)
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I have a conspiracy theory that Berkeley Breathed is behind Big Penguin.
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:10 PM (NcvvS)
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I have a conspiracy theory that Berkeley Breathed is behind Big Penguin.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (TTNvg)
226
I think it's going to be MTV Spring Break with guest host Bill Clinton
Posted by: hurricane567 at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (1V/nS)
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Yeah...day late and a dollar short. But he will provide cover for others to finally call out that insane cunt.
==
people have been calling her out; wonder how ghey her "husband" really is
==
people have been calling her out; wonder how ghey her "husband" really is
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (g47mK)
228
You missed a chance to mention "Capricorn One"
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)
I would have to defer to TJM for that.
You missed a chance to mention "Capricorn One"
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)
I would have to defer to TJM for that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
229
>>Posted by: geewhiz at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (V87Oy)
Check out that Glow.
It was my understanding that Glowies all had to speak English.
Check out that Glow.
It was my understanding that Glowies all had to speak English.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (Riz8t)
230
Grandma used to make turtle soup. She said the same thing about turtle fat.
Is all reptile fat inedibly gross?
Posted by: mikeski at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (nhCoE)
Inedible has a wide variance in its definition.
Is all reptile fat inedibly gross?
Posted by: mikeski at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (nhCoE)
Inedible has a wide variance in its definition.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (8avO+)
231
Babe Ruth used a corked bat for his entire career.
Posted by: Barry Bonds - I hit them 73 HRs while totally clean. at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (uv8gn)
232
The Apollo landing sites have been photographed from lunar orbit.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
_______
That's fake too.
Eventually this all descends into solipsism.
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM (ZxPkt)
_______
That's fake too.
Eventually this all descends into solipsism.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (XvL8K)
233
The story, events and timeline of how Epstein was employed by Bill Barr's Father to when he was murdered in a prison run by Bill Barr, would be fascinating and compelling and would probably make for a great Spotlight like Hollywood treatment.
I wonder if that will ever happen.
I wonder if that will ever happen.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (XV/Pl)
234
Look, we already know that Bill Clinton raped women, impregnated girls (probably underage), bullied/forced women into compliance, molested/pawed women, etc. etc. -- and nobody cares anymore (or ever cared). Lyndon Johnson showed his dick to reporters frequently. JFK cheated on Jackie constantly. Etc. etc. etc. Long gone are the days when a sexual scandal could impact a politician's career. Everyone knowsm, and have always known, that Trump has had a succession of women. Did that stop him from getting elected presidnt three times in a row? No.
And as far as anyone can tell, 50+% of all celebrities screw underage girls whenever they get the chance.
Nobody gives a shit, really.
And as far as anyone can tell, 50+% of all celebrities screw underage girls whenever they get the chance.
Nobody gives a shit, really.
Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (oraVG)
235
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
This is why China should NEVER have access to the moon. And probably not Russia, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: Gru
What's up, Doc?
Posted by: Bugs Bunny
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (MGB5H)
This is why China should NEVER have access to the moon. And probably not Russia, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:12 PM
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: Gru
What's up, Doc?
Posted by: Bugs Bunny
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (+Oyis)
236
people have been calling her out; wonder how ghey her "husband" really is
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (g47mK)
Hasn't she been pregnant a couple times? You're suggesting she's artificially inseminated? Or just cheating......
people have been calling her out; wonder how ghey her "husband" really is
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (g47mK)
Hasn't she been pregnant a couple times? You're suggesting she's artificially inseminated? Or just cheating......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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209 I hope that inflation thing is under control...
@Breaking911 10m
🚨FED CUTS RATES BY A QUARTER-POINT
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (mlg/3)
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Rates don't affect inflation.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
@Breaking911 10m
🚨FED CUTS RATES BY A QUARTER-POINT
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (mlg/3)
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Rates don't affect inflation.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
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*whistles innocently*
Posted by: Gru
What's up, Doc?
Posted by: Bugs Bunny
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (+Oyis)
Pikers......
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: Gru
What's up, Doc?
Posted by: Bugs Bunny
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (+Oyis)
Pikers......
Posted by: Marvin The Martian at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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So, 17 year old girls whoring around are incapable of making responsible decisions for themselves but 4 year olds deciding they are the wrong sex must have their opinions respected.
So, 17 year old girls whoring around are incapable of making responsible decisions for themselves but 4 year olds deciding they are the wrong sex must have their opinions respected.
Posted by: Auspex at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (Y8DZL)
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As real as real can be!
Posted by: Bigfoot, Nessie, Chupacabra at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (wVcYX)
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"Where have you gone Mister Arthur Bell
A nation turns its chemtrail skies to you ... woo hoo hoo."
Posted by: Bigfoot, Nessie, Chupacabra at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (wVcYX)
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"Where have you gone Mister Arthur Bell
A nation turns its chemtrail skies to you ... woo hoo hoo."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (TTNvg)
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And as far as anyone can tell, 50+% of all celebrities screw underage girls whenever they get the chance.
Nobody gives a shit, really.
Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (oraVG)
Roman Polanski agrees.
And as far as anyone can tell, 50+% of all celebrities screw underage girls whenever they get the chance.
Nobody gives a shit, really.
Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (oraVG)
Roman Polanski agrees.
Posted by: Caligirl at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (gpah0)
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175 Conspiracies involving any goodly number of people should be even more difficult to pull off today, what with us all carrying recording devices. There's always somebody that didn't get paid, or paid enough, to keep quiet.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (XvL8K)
Our daily lives are more or less lived inside conspiracies. Remember Journolist? A bunch of journos coordinating behind the scenes to make sure the right message was reported. Do you think it stopped after that one list got exposed? The news just always ends up sounding the same by happenstance, organically? Until a weird oligarch became angry and bought Twitter, the media, social media, and government were working hand-in-glove to ensure no wrongthink was being utter publicly. And they sure weren't being honest about their coordination or its nature. Again, Gell-Mann Amnesia. We're swimming in conspiracies. I guess fish really do not know they are wet.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 10, 2025 02:09 PM (XvL8K)
Our daily lives are more or less lived inside conspiracies. Remember Journolist? A bunch of journos coordinating behind the scenes to make sure the right message was reported. Do you think it stopped after that one list got exposed? The news just always ends up sounding the same by happenstance, organically? Until a weird oligarch became angry and bought Twitter, the media, social media, and government were working hand-in-glove to ensure no wrongthink was being utter publicly. And they sure weren't being honest about their coordination or its nature. Again, Gell-Mann Amnesia. We're swimming in conspiracies. I guess fish really do not know they are wet.
Posted by: don't try to bullshit a bullshitter at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (GNipg)
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Rooskies Lunakhod rovers, early 70s, put LLR reflectors up as well. They use them all, and the Russian ones have some advantages for some purposes, while the Apollo ones have their own.
The Moons position is know to 2cm precision. Sub mm precision is on the horizon.
The Moons position is know to 2cm precision. Sub mm precision is on the horizon.
Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (XVbII)
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Babe Ruth used a corked bat for his entire career.
Posted by: Barry Bonds - I hit them 73 HRs while totally clean. at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (uv8gn)
Your head grew 2.5 hat sizes in one offseason.......
Posted by: Barry Bonds - I hit them 73 HRs while totally clean. at December 10, 2025 02:20 PM (uv8gn)
Your head grew 2.5 hat sizes in one offseason.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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I hope at some point there is more information about his little ranch operations and orgies in New Mexico. Seeing photos it appeared to be just as nefarious as his island pedoville.
Then we have Marina Abramovic, a dark "witch" that Hollywood is drawn to. I want her stuff investigated as well as well as who supports her.
Hollyweird is a pit of satanic culture.
Then we have Marina Abramovic, a dark "witch" that Hollywood is drawn to. I want her stuff investigated as well as well as who supports her.
Hollyweird is a pit of satanic culture.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (WONhk)
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Rates don't affect inflation.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Lower rates -> more loans -> increased money supply. This is standard theory.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Lower rates -> more loans -> increased money supply. This is standard theory.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (mlg/3)
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fire can't melt steel", at least at the temperature at the WTC. But it can dramatically weaken steel's strength causing building support beams to fail catastrophically.
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Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
=
Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
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She's on FIRE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)
******
I feel so bad for Erika.
The evil bitch, Candace Owens and her followers with all their conspiracy theories are trying to destroy TPUSA and Erika.
Karma is coming for Candace.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)
******
I feel so bad for Erika.
The evil bitch, Candace Owens and her followers with all their conspiracy theories are trying to destroy TPUSA and Erika.
Karma is coming for Candace.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (NpAcC)
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>>I have a conspiracy theory that Berkeley Breathed is behind Big Penguin.
NEVER! Except this one time...
NEVER! Except this one time...
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (NcvvS)
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I have a conspiracy theory that Berkeley Breathed is behind Big Penguin.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant
We are a grass-roots, up-from-the-bootstraps, organization. Our Military Junta funding and support is only incidental.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant
We are a grass-roots, up-from-the-bootstraps, organization. Our Military Junta funding and support is only incidental.
Posted by: Big Penguin at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (oftw2)
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246 Rates don't affect inflation.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Lower rates -> more loans -> increased money supply. This is standard theory.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (mlg/3)
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Except banks don't create currency.
So, no, it doesn't work like that.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Lower rates -> more loans -> increased money supply. This is standard theory.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (mlg/3)
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Except banks don't create currency.
So, no, it doesn't work like that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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You missed a chance to mention "Capricorn One"
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)
I would have to defer to TJM for that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
I always thought the movie had the wrong ending - they should have gotten the sole survivor astronaut and the reporter just before they got to the funeral and ended with a suit whispering the news to Hal Holbrook and have him give a thin smile.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)
I would have to defer to TJM for that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
I always thought the movie had the wrong ending - they should have gotten the sole survivor astronaut and the reporter just before they got to the funeral and ended with a suit whispering the news to Hal Holbrook and have him give a thin smile.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (8avO+)
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I hope at some point there is more information about his little ranch operations and orgies in New Mexico. Seeing photos it appeared to be just as nefarious as his island pedoville.
Then we have Marina Abramovic, a dark "witch" that Hollywood is drawn to. I want her stuff investigated as well as well as who supports her.
Hollyweird is a pit of satanic culture.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (WONhk)
Sex farms in New Mexico.
Terrorist training farms in Arizona.
Seems we need to get a handle on our southwest states.
Then we have Marina Abramovic, a dark "witch" that Hollywood is drawn to. I want her stuff investigated as well as well as who supports her.
Hollyweird is a pit of satanic culture.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (WONhk)
Sex farms in New Mexico.
Terrorist training farms in Arizona.
Seems we need to get a handle on our southwest states.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (Zz0t1)
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Sources told me that Owen's husband likes dick...
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (g47mK)
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>>Posted by: geewhiz at December 10, 2025 02:15 PM (V87Oy)
Check out that Glow.
It was my understanding that Glowies all had to speak English.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (Riz8t)
I'd like to make an H1B joke hear, but chatbot (government or otherwise) is just as likely, these days.
Check out that Glow.
It was my understanding that Glowies all had to speak English.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 02:19 PM (Riz8t)
I'd like to make an H1B joke hear, but chatbot (government or otherwise) is just as likely, these days.
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (vSvIl)
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>>>>Update: It just occurred to me that people think about a foreign blackmail operation because they don't know how Epstein made his money or why he was so determined to cultivate pedo-friendships with people like Bill Clinton or Larry Summers.
as a completely unqualified teacher, was hired by Donald Barr ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr ) at Dalton School, was hired as a banker from there, started his own fund which no one admits to have being part of, made millions by getting rich investors to participate in investments no one seems to know, in a place known for laundering funds and funding odd not really government actions, was involved deeply with the Clintons, and when finally arrested and sentenced for was killed in a prison overseen by Bill Bar, Donald Barr's son.
I know, he was blackmailing people. It is obvious from the dental chair.
as a completely unqualified teacher, was hired by Donald Barr ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr ) at Dalton School, was hired as a banker from there, started his own fund which no one admits to have being part of, made millions by getting rich investors to participate in investments no one seems to know, in a place known for laundering funds and funding odd not really government actions, was involved deeply with the Clintons, and when finally arrested and sentenced for was killed in a prison overseen by Bill Bar, Donald Barr's son.
I know, he was blackmailing people. It is obvious from the dental chair.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (ZxPkt)
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Girls! Girls! Girls!
Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (wVcYX)
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>I have a conspiracy theory that Berkeley Breathed is behind Big Penguin.
What's your problem, bruh?
What's your problem, bruh?
Posted by: Opus The Penguin at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (Zz0t1)
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Candace Owens is a deranged lunatic full stop. She's accusing TPUSA of financial fraud on top of all this. They need to sue her into oblivion.
Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (XVbII)
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>>Posted by: Big Penguin at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (oftw2)
Thank you for your corroboration!
Thank you for your corroboration!
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (NcvvS)
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (sX1BW)
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Barack probably goes both ways.
I mean, his wife is built like a guy.
It's also quite obvious that Barack knows what penis tastes like.
I mean, his wife is built like a guy.
It's also quite obvious that Barack knows what penis tastes like.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (uKEdu)
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Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
winds coming in provide replacement oxygen for more fire. Heat increases the ability to trigger the O2 - steel reaction, which at room temperature is just rusting.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
winds coming in provide replacement oxygen for more fire. Heat increases the ability to trigger the O2 - steel reaction, which at room temperature is just rusting.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (ZxPkt)
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So, 17 year old girls whoring around are incapable of making responsible decisions for themselves but 4 year olds deciding they are the wrong sex must have their opinions respected.
Posted by: Auspex at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (Y8DZL)
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I'm old enough to remember -- a couple decades ago in Califzuela -- that lunatic Katie Porter introducing State legislation to reduce the voting age to 14.
I thought she should have gone for making it 2 since virtually all D voters are basically psychological emotional, spiritual, & mental infants ...
Posted by: Auspex at December 10, 2025 02:21 PM (Y8DZL)
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I'm old enough to remember -- a couple decades ago in Califzuela -- that lunatic Katie Porter introducing State legislation to reduce the voting age to 14.
I thought she should have gone for making it 2 since virtually all D voters are basically psychological emotional, spiritual, & mental infants ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (TTNvg)
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are the moon landing 'truthers' in here?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (ZxPkt)
My comments are usually, most always, sarc.......So there's that.
are the moon landing 'truthers' in here?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Light fuse, run away at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (ZxPkt)
My comments are usually, most always, sarc.......So there's that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: B. Breathed at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (NcvvS)
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Sex farms in New Mexico.
Terrorist training farms in Arizona.
Seems we need to get a handle on our southwest states.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
The terrorist training farm was in Taos, NM. As a proud Nuevo New Mexican I must stand firm against Arizona and Texas stealing our culture.
Terrorist training farms in Arizona.
Seems we need to get a handle on our southwest states.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
The terrorist training farm was in Taos, NM. As a proud Nuevo New Mexican I must stand firm against Arizona and Texas stealing our culture.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (uv8gn)
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wait
are the moon landing 'truthers' in here?
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We are everywhere.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (sX1BW)
The moon landings were staged on the invisible Mushroom planet secret *Second Moon*
are the moon landing 'truthers' in here?
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We are everywhere.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (sX1BW)
The moon landings were staged on the invisible Mushroom planet secret *Second Moon*
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (8avO+)
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Isn't the moon just a luminary?
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (/6GbT)
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And as far as anyone can tell, 50+% of all celebrities screw underage girls whenever they get the chance.
The other 50% when they get drugged. Reward or blackmail, who can say?
The other 50% when they get drugged. Reward or blackmail, who can say?
Posted by: t-bird at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (0ZmKh)
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How do steel mills work? Does fire melt steel?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (ufetp)
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24 As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?
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They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
They weren't eaten.
The giant space brains zapped them.
.....
They left after eating all the dinosaurs.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2025 01:44 PM (v0R5T)
They weren't eaten.
The giant space brains zapped them.
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (UnA8+)
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Barack probably goes both ways.
I mean, his wife is built like a guy.
It's also quite obvious that Barack knows what penis tastes like.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (uKEdu)
His wife has a penis.
He enjoys getting fat homo white men to blow him.
I believe he takes it in the fartclam by black men.
I mean, his wife is built like a guy.
It's also quite obvious that Barack knows what penis tastes like.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at December 10, 2025 02:25 PM (uKEdu)
His wife has a penis.
He enjoys getting fat homo white men to blow him.
I believe he takes it in the fartclam by black men.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)
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Rates don't affect inflation.
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Lower rates -> more loans -> increased money supply. This is standard theory.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (mlg/3)
That and, what is the mechanism for the Fed to lower rates?
Fed printing money, inflating the money supply, affects inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Lower rates -> more loans -> increased money supply. This is standard theory.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (mlg/3)
That and, what is the mechanism for the Fed to lower rates?
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (vSvIl)
Posted by: Toad-0 at December 10, 2025 02:28 PM (wMNuu)
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Didn't Candace Owens have the most to gain from Kirk's death ? Just asking questions. And it has proven to be true...she is making a ton. made herself into #1 podcast, no more competition. see what I mean?
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:28 PM (g47mK)
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Remember, even in his worst scandal ("grab 'em by the...", Trump never said that he was the aggressor -- he merely pointed out (accurately) that if you're a famous rich guy, women literally throw themselves at you. The full quote (rarely reported) was,
"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."
Ask any male celebrity or billionaire -- they'd all admit the same thing, if given truth serum. Groupies everywhere, coming at you like gnats.
"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. ... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."
Ask any male celebrity or billionaire -- they'd all admit the same thing, if given truth serum. Groupies everywhere, coming at you like gnats.
Posted by: zombie at December 10, 2025 02:28 PM (oraVG)
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Then we have Marina Abramovic, a dark "witch" that Hollywood is drawn to. I want her stuff investigated as well as well as who supports her.
One of the splashy news mags had a profile on one of her parties.
They had a life sized teenaged girl made out of jello or something like that with a sweet red fluid inside as blood and the party goers cut off parts and ate it.
It was creepy as all hell...
Then we have Marina Abramovic, a dark "witch" that Hollywood is drawn to. I want her stuff investigated as well as well as who supports her.
One of the splashy news mags had a profile on one of her parties.
They had a life sized teenaged girl made out of jello or something like that with a sweet red fluid inside as blood and the party goers cut off parts and ate it.
It was creepy as all hell...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (sKqQm)
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Depends on what you mean by 'very'. A teen with a Senator, say, is that 'very'?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (8avO+)
By "very", I mean more than a year or two below the age of consent. Young enough that a "guest" at the island would be thinking, "nope, that one's jailbait".
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:11 PM (8avO+)
By "very", I mean more than a year or two below the age of consent. Young enough that a "guest" at the island would be thinking, "nope, that one's jailbait".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (npFr7)
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Could Pope Urban the VIIth swim?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (ufetp)
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Sources told me that Owen's husband likes dick...
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (g47mK)
He's a high class Brit, so sure.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (g47mK)
He's a high class Brit, so sure.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (8avO+)
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"As Fermi said about aliens: If they exist, well, where are they?"
They do exist, and they live among us. They call themselves Hungarians. (the answer given back then)
*raises third hand*
They do exist, and they live among us. They call themselves Hungarians. (the answer given back then)
*raises third hand*
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (5xuJ/)
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The terrorist training farm was in Taos, NM. As a proud Nuevo New Mexican I must stand firm against Arizona and Texas stealing our culture.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (uv8gn)
Well, they used Arizona to learn how to take off and fly........
The terrorist training farm was in Taos, NM. As a proud Nuevo New Mexican I must stand firm against Arizona and Texas stealing our culture.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 02:26 PM (uv8gn)
Well, they used Arizona to learn how to take off and fly........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)
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fire can't melt steel", at least at the temperature at the WTC. But it can dramatically weaken steel's strength causing building support beams to fail catastrophically.
=
Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
=
Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
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>>They do exist, and they live among us. They call themselves Hungarians.
When Miklos sees this, prepare to receive artillery.
When Miklos sees this, prepare to receive artillery.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (NcvvS)
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>>Didn't Candace Owens have the most to gain from Kirk's death ?
We should get out the Ouija Board and ask Charlie.
We should get out the Ouija Board and ask Charlie.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:31 PM (TR2dy)
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Our daily lives are more or less lived inside conspiracies.
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FFS got sit in a courthouse for an afternoon. Aside from domestic violence and individual crimes, everything is conspiracy. All drugs, all prostitution/ trafficking. What is organized crime? What about gangs? Bid rigging and insider trading. It goes on and on. It is simply not an argument to say conspiracies dont exist. They do. AND THEY ARE COMMON. That does not mean Epstein was or was not an OP. I tend to think he was a deniable asset. So you wont find much. He will be declassified 65 years from now. I remain extremely skeptical that he hung himself in prison, but I accept that there is a lack of proof be was killed.
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FFS got sit in a courthouse for an afternoon. Aside from domestic violence and individual crimes, everything is conspiracy. All drugs, all prostitution/ trafficking. What is organized crime? What about gangs? Bid rigging and insider trading. It goes on and on. It is simply not an argument to say conspiracies dont exist. They do. AND THEY ARE COMMON. That does not mean Epstein was or was not an OP. I tend to think he was a deniable asset. So you wont find much. He will be declassified 65 years from now. I remain extremely skeptical that he hung himself in prison, but I accept that there is a lack of proof be was killed.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:31 PM (AoMt0)
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By "very", I mean more than a year or two below the age of consent. Young enough that a "guest" at the island would be thinking, "nope, that one's jailbait".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (npFr7)
That's ALL of them. We all knew that as a kid. We gave a friend of ours all sorts of crap when he was chatting up a girl until she told him she couldn't date until 13. She was 12.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (npFr7)
That's ALL of them. We all knew that as a kid. We gave a friend of ours all sorts of crap when he was chatting up a girl until she told him she couldn't date until 13. She was 12.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:31 PM (8avO+)
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How do steel mills work? Does fire melt steel?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (ufetp)
Yes, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:27 PM (ufetp)
Yes, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (rbvCR)
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283 Sources told me that Owen's husband likes dick...
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (g47mK)
He's a high class Brit, so sure.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (8avO+)
Amen, old chap! Amen.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:23 PM (g47mK)
He's a high class Brit, so sure.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:29 PM (8avO+)
Amen, old chap! Amen.
Posted by: Lytton Strachey at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (0CU3H)
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Ask any male celebrity or billionaire -- they'd all admit the same thing, if given truth serum. Groupies everywhere, coming at you like gnats.
I remember reading Althouse's site on this. Even discussing gold diggers offended her and this seems to be the feminist left's take on it.
There are no gold diggers
So Trump meant he's forcing women to have sex with him
I would say it is an odd take since everyone knows that gold diggers exist, and neither Trump nor any Trump defender said that all women are like this just...some. Which is true.
But this idea causes some problems for feminism so they just pretend it doesn't actually exist.
I remember reading Althouse's site on this. Even discussing gold diggers offended her and this seems to be the feminist left's take on it.
There are no gold diggers
So Trump meant he's forcing women to have sex with him
I would say it is an odd take since everyone knows that gold diggers exist, and neither Trump nor any Trump defender said that all women are like this just...some. Which is true.
But this idea causes some problems for feminism so they just pretend it doesn't actually exist.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (sKqQm)
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Candace Owens is one crazy ass biatch. Plus she only eats kosher food too.
Posted by: Nick Fuentes at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (uv8gn)
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Dammit - have to drop. Enjoyed the thread, thanks, all y'all!
Posted by: Nazdar at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (NcvvS)
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are the moon landing 'truthers' in here?
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Stanley Kubric faked the moon landings on a film set. There may have been shadow people there.
I heard it in a song.
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Stanley Kubric faked the moon landings on a film set. There may have been shadow people there.
I heard it in a song.
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (vSvIl)
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We should get out the Ouija Board and ask Charlie.
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Sources told me that she just "coincidentally" was ready to go the minute he was assassinated; that just does not happen without foreknowledge.
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Sources told me that she just "coincidentally" was ready to go the minute he was assassinated; that just does not happen without foreknowledge.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (g47mK)
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Check out that Glow.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM
Damn...when garrett thinks you're flaming....
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:16 PM
Damn...when garrett thinks you're flaming....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (bFu5X)
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>>Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
LOL
LOL
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (TR2dy)
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293 I remember reading Althouse's site on this. Even discussing gold diggers offended her and this seems to be the feminist left's take on it.
There are no gold diggers
So Trump meant he's forcing women to have sex with him
I would say it is an odd take since everyone knows that gold diggers exist, and neither Trump nor any Trump defender said that all women are like this just...some. Which is true.
But this idea causes some problems for feminism so they just pretend it doesn't actually exist.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (sKqQm)
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"Women are fierce and independent and don't need no men except when money and power is concerned, then men must protect women from their own decisions."
-Althouse
There are no gold diggers
So Trump meant he's forcing women to have sex with him
I would say it is an odd take since everyone knows that gold diggers exist, and neither Trump nor any Trump defender said that all women are like this just...some. Which is true.
But this idea causes some problems for feminism so they just pretend it doesn't actually exist.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (sKqQm)
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"Women are fierce and independent and don't need no men except when money and power is concerned, then men must protect women from their own decisions."
-Althouse
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)
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AND THEY ARE COMMON. That does not mean Epstein was or was not an OP. I tend to think he was a deniable asset. So you wont find much. He will be declassified 65 years from now. I remain extremely skeptical that he hung himself in prison, but I accept that there is a lack of proof be was killed.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:31 PM (AoMt0)
No question Epstein was an OP. The question is whose? All on his own is fantastically unlikely. CIA from the get go probably equally so. Somewhere in the middle.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:31 PM (AoMt0)
No question Epstein was an OP. The question is whose? All on his own is fantastically unlikely. CIA from the get go probably equally so. Somewhere in the middle.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:33 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)
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Yes, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Kindltot
It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Kindltot
It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
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Oh another "fun" conspiracy theory that has come back are lizard people - the notion there are non-humans in our elite that conspire together and that don't care about people in general and will use them to achieve their own ends.
In a way this theory IS true. But the elites in question are NOT a separate species, they are fellow human beings without a moral sense. "Lizard people" are just human psychopaths.
In a way this theory IS true. But the elites in question are NOT a separate species, they are fellow human beings without a moral sense. "Lizard people" are just human psychopaths.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (sKqQm)
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I would not be at all phased to find out Epstein was just blackmailing movers and shakers into funding his investment business. The "real" story might turn to be how he knew which of them had a real affinity for young girls.
The various stories about the CIA and/or MI6 involvement are probably bogus, whether or not someone associated with Epstein or Maxwell is.
I just don't think the info would ever see the light of day if there was anything 'there.'
YMMV
The various stories about the CIA and/or MI6 involvement are probably bogus, whether or not someone associated with Epstein or Maxwell is.
I just don't think the info would ever see the light of day if there was anything 'there.'
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (NwnyJ)
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and owens has people inside TPUSA, same ones that sent her the texts, they were also in on it
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (g47mK)
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So, has Tom Hanks departed for Greece yet?
I'd have bet on little boys rather than girls for the diddling.
So, has Tom Hanks departed for Greece yet?
I'd have bet on little boys rather than girls for the diddling.
Posted by: Auspex at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (Y8DZL)
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@axios
Trump brings legal immigration to a screeching halt
Axios. That means it's likely bullshit.
Trump brings legal immigration to a screeching halt
Axios. That means it's likely bullshit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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303 Yes, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Kindltot
It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
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Of collapsing if you put a jet near the top and light the jetfuel on fire?
Posted by: Kindltot
It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
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Of collapsing if you put a jet near the top and light the jetfuel on fire?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)
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are the moon landing 'truthers' in here?
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Stanley Kubric faked the moon landings on a film set. There may have been shadow people there.
I heard it in a song.
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (vSvIl)
Kubrick had better cameras.
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Stanley Kubric faked the moon landings on a film set. There may have been shadow people there.
I heard it in a song.
Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (vSvIl)
Kubrick had better cameras.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (8avO+)
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Yes, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (rbvCR)
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Steel doesn't have to melt for there to be big problems. Just softening will cause it to stop supporting its load.
Yes, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (rbvCR)
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Steel doesn't have to melt for there to be big problems. Just softening will cause it to stop supporting its load.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (tgvbd)
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Apparently, I just don't cut like I used to.
Posted by: Occam's Razor at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (HJUJ8)
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Speaking of moons, they found evidence of stronger tidal action in Gale Crater. This means Mars probably had a much larger moon in the billion year distant past.
Posted by: Publius on Stupid Phone at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (XVbII)
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and owens has people inside TPUSA, same ones that sent her the texts, they were also in on it
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (g47mK)
Because her staff is loaded with black ops specialists.
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (g47mK)
Because her staff is loaded with black ops specialists.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)
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"Women are fierce and independent and don't need no men except when money and power is concerned, then men must protect women from their own decisions."
-Althouse
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
You are truly a sexist swine.
-Althouse
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
You are truly a sexist swine.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow - Why yes my carpets and drapes match. at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (uv8gn)
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308 @axios
Trump brings legal immigration to a screeching halt
Axios. That means it's likely bullshit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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All may issue visas are down to almost nothing. The only things surviving are shall issue visas that the executive doesn't have leeway on (think spousal visas).
Trump brings legal immigration to a screeching halt
Axios. That means it's likely bullshit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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All may issue visas are down to almost nothing. The only things surviving are shall issue visas that the executive doesn't have leeway on (think spousal visas).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
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Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
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If this is sarcasm it is great. KUDOS!!. If not he some crazy fuel for you. They did find very high amounts of aluminum in the wreckage. Aluminum is one of the constituents of thermite!!!! (It also is what airliners are largely made of, womp womp)
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
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If this is sarcasm it is great. KUDOS!!. If not he some crazy fuel for you. They did find very high amounts of aluminum in the wreckage. Aluminum is one of the constituents of thermite!!!! (It also is what airliners are largely made of, womp womp)
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (AoMt0)
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286 fire can't melt steel", at least at the temperature at the WTC. But it can dramatically weaken steel's strength causing building support beams to fail catastrophically.
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Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
ah, ah, Bullshit!. Sorry, sneezed from all the dust.
Reagan Library and other places have steel from the WTC.
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Then, 100 stories up, when you cut a hole in the side of the building and out the other. The start a big fire inside, what happens as the air blasting through, drawn in by the fire. What role does oxygen play in increasing fire reaction? What does a turbo do???
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:22 PM (AoMt0)
Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
ah, ah, Bullshit!. Sorry, sneezed from all the dust.
Reagan Library and other places have steel from the WTC.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (ynpvh)
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Everyone knows that they got Kubrick to film the fake moon landing footage. But the crazy bastard was so insistent on filming on location, one thing lead to another, and....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (Vq1pX)
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Of collapsing if you put a jet near the top and light the jetfuel on fire?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)
Because putting bombs and other explosives at the base of the building will cause it to crumble from the top down.
Of collapsing if you put a jet near the top and light the jetfuel on fire?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)
Because putting bombs and other explosives at the base of the building will cause it to crumble from the top down.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (Zz0t1)
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I think the biggest issue with Epstein is that he was on suicide watch.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (lF28Z)
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I remember reading Althouse's site on this. Even discussing gold diggers offended her and this seems to be the feminist left's take on it.
There are no gold diggers
So Trump meant he's forcing women to have sex with him
I would say it is an odd take since everyone knows that gold diggers exist, and neither Trump nor any Trump defender said that all women are like this just...some. Which is true.
But this idea causes some problems for feminism so they just pretend it doesn't actually exist.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (sKqQm)
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"Women are fierce and independent and don't need no men except when money and power is concerned, then men must protect women from their own decisions."
-Althouse
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)
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There's a small but growing segment of "feminists" who's entire pitch is that "all men are scum, so women should just use sex to get as much money from men as possible." That's literally the definition of a gold digger.
There are no gold diggers
So Trump meant he's forcing women to have sex with him
I would say it is an odd take since everyone knows that gold diggers exist, and neither Trump nor any Trump defender said that all women are like this just...some. Which is true.
But this idea causes some problems for feminism so they just pretend it doesn't actually exist.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (sKqQm)
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"Women are fierce and independent and don't need no men except when money and power is concerned, then men must protect women from their own decisions."
-Althouse
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)
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There's a small but growing segment of "feminists" who's entire pitch is that "all men are scum, so women should just use sex to get as much money from men as possible." That's literally the definition of a gold digger.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (iFTx/)
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es, but an office fire, or aviation fuel conflagration isn't hot enough to melt steel. And if it is, every sky scraper in the US is a death trap.
Posted by: Kindltot
It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
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Of collapsing if you put a jet near the top and light the jetfuel on fire?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)
I question the assertion that avgas fire can't melt steel. Jet engines are notably not made of steel, and the fire is shoved out the back instantly.
Posted by: Kindltot
It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
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Of collapsing if you put a jet near the top and light the jetfuel on fire?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (GBKbO)
I question the assertion that avgas fire can't melt steel. Jet engines are notably not made of steel, and the fire is shoved out the back instantly.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (8avO+)
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308 @axios
Trump brings legal immigration to a screeching halt
Countries closed Uncle Sam out front should have told you...
Trump brings legal immigration to a screeching halt
Countries closed Uncle Sam out front should have told you...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (VE6XX)
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This means Mars probably had a much larger moon in the billion year distant past.
"Larger" as a near earth asteroid or something substantial?
"Larger" as a near earth asteroid or something substantial?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (sKqQm)
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LOL
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (TR2dy)
Laughing at the conspiracy theory or at the idea that an office fire caused by aviation fuel cooking off is not enough to make a fuel air explosion strong enough to collapse a sky scraper into its own footprint?
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:32 PM (TR2dy)
Laughing at the conspiracy theory or at the idea that an office fire caused by aviation fuel cooking off is not enough to make a fuel air explosion strong enough to collapse a sky scraper into its own footprint?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (rbvCR)
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Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
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Everyone knows that they got Kubrick to film the fake moon landing footage. But the crazy bastard was so insistent on filming on location, one thing lead to another, and....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (Vq1pX)
Method actors, amirite?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (Vq1pX)
Method actors, amirite?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (8avO+)
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Has anybody noticed the resemblance between Anthony Bourdain and Jeffrey Epstein?
I mean, beside the rope burns?
Has anybody noticed the resemblance between Anthony Bourdain and Jeffrey Epstein?
I mean, beside the rope burns?
Posted by: Auspex at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (Y8DZL)
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USS New York (LCS - little crappy ship, as I recall) has steel from the WTC. Not aware that steel has been an issue. Everything else about those ships, sure.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (U/Byj)
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You are truly a sexist swine.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow - Why yes my carpets and drapes match. at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (uv8gn)
Ah yes.......MSNOW is running ads on TV where Madcow reads the preamble to the Constitution......that thing that she previously said didn't exist........
You are truly a sexist swine.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow - Why yes my carpets and drapes match. at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (uv8gn)
Ah yes.......MSNOW is running ads on TV where Madcow reads the preamble to the Constitution......that thing that she previously said didn't exist........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
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Because her staff is loaded with black ops specialists.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)
could also be fathers of her children ? just asking questions;
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)
could also be fathers of her children ? just asking questions;
Posted by: runner at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (g47mK)
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There is a gadget you can buy for camping, a metal tube into which you put a scrap of newspaper and a load of charcoal or wood. The venturi effect of the tube accelerates the fire and causes it to heat up rapidly. A skyscraper is just such a tube once you blow a huge hole in it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (0U5gm)
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (sGtp+)
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It happened in Oswego, NY where 60% are passed out drunk and naked on their couches.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
Add "in liquor store bathrooms" and I'm there!
-- That raccoon in Virginia
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
Add "in liquor store bathrooms" and I'm there!
-- That raccoon in Virginia
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (77rzZ)
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I think the biggest issue with Epstein is that he was on suicide watch.
And he was beaten by a mob connected thug in prison shortly before, and the cameras were "broken" and his guards were asleep, and the way he killed himself wouldn't be possible for most people and...
And he was beaten by a mob connected thug in prison shortly before, and the cameras were "broken" and his guards were asleep, and the way he killed himself wouldn't be possible for most people and...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (sKqQm)
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HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
OMG, you mean the conspiracy goes all the back to the architects?
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
OMG, you mean the conspiracy goes all the back to the architects?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (uv8gn)
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Dunno, ace.
Look at how the JFK and RFK file releases completely, and I mean completely, changed the entire understanding of those events.
Right?
Look at how the JFK and RFK file releases completely, and I mean completely, changed the entire understanding of those events.
Right?
Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (U/Byj)
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Huh. It is interesting to watch people wanting to go after Owen. Usually for a dude, we would imply he is gay or his wife enjoys cheating on him and he enjoys watching (French Gambit.) Or a combination of both.
In this case we are going after her husband?
In this case we are going after her husband?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (zZu0s)
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Once you find yourself on Team Rosie O'Donnell it's time to start asking yourself about your own life choices.
That said the government certainly did not get harmed by 9/11, they benefited from it. Which one must admit is strange.
That said the government certainly did not get harmed by 9/11, they benefited from it. Which one must admit is strange.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (lF28Z)
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It doesn't have to melt it, only soften it a bit, and the structural integrity is lost. And yes, every skyscraper in the US is vulnerable, at least those built after masonry and asbestos insulation were discontinued.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
I would argue, from my knowledge, no changes in building codes were done post 9-11 and no building I am aware of was retrofitted to resolve this fatal flaw. So this is negligence.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 10, 2025 02:34 PM (0U5gm)
I would argue, from my knowledge, no changes in building codes were done post 9-11 and no building I am aware of was retrofitted to resolve this fatal flaw. So this is negligence.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (rbvCR)
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327 Do you know what can melt steel? Thermite applied to the ceiling of certain floors in the form of paint.
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
I'd add some math and physics here, but I am prohibited. Lets just say force equals mass times acceleration, and momentum, mass times velocity, is quite high when dealing with 10,000 tons per floor...
Too bad all the steel was shipped to China for recycling before tests were done. So we will never know if that theory is right or not
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:30 PM (rbvCR)
HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
I'd add some math and physics here, but I am prohibited. Lets just say force equals mass times acceleration, and momentum, mass times velocity, is quite high when dealing with 10,000 tons per floor...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (ynpvh)
343
Method actors, amirite?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (8avO+)
"Get in the spinny thingy, Neil."
"But Stan, i just ate lunch, and..."
"GET IN THE SPINNY THINGY NEIL."
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (8avO+)
"Get in the spinny thingy, Neil."
"But Stan, i just ate lunch, and..."
"GET IN THE SPINNY THINGY NEIL."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 10, 2025 02:40 PM (Vq1pX)
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321 I think the biggest issue with Epstein is that he was on suicide watch.
apple watch > suicide watch
apple watch > suicide watch
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 02:40 PM (sGtp+)
345
NOODlum.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)
346
All the Vatican walls were graffitied during the reign of Pope Urban VII.
Posted by: Papal Nuncio at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (oftw2)
347
That said the government certainly did not get harmed by 9/11, they benefited from it. Which one must admit is strange.
I remember watching Shrub give a medal to Tenet thinking that Tenet should have been encouraged to go up to his study with a tumbler of brandy and a revolver instead...
I remember watching Shrub give a medal to Tenet thinking that Tenet should have been encouraged to go up to his study with a tumbler of brandy and a revolver instead...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (sKqQm)
348
HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
There's a story about a high rise that after it was built it was discovered that some engineering goofs in the plans and an unplanned build error meant the entire thing would pancake in the next high wind scenario. in NYC.
They found a patch fix and secretly applied it to the building before it blew over.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
There's a story about a high rise that after it was built it was discovered that some engineering goofs in the plans and an unplanned build error meant the entire thing would pancake in the next high wind scenario. in NYC.
They found a patch fix and secretly applied it to the building before it blew over.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (8avO+)
349
Jerome Powell is assho. That is all
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (D+mpw)
350
There's a small but growing segment of "feminists" who's entire pitch is that "all men are scum, so women should just use sex to get as much money from men as possible." That's literally the definition of a gold digger.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (
I thought it was the definition of "woman".
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (
I thought it was the definition of "woman".
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (lF28Z)
351
Look at how the JFK and RFK file releases completely, and I mean completely, changed the entire understanding of those events.
__________
I've always said that if the CIA was involved, there would have been a hundred dead bystanders and JFK would have gotten away without a scratch.
Look at how the JFK and RFK file releases completely, and I mean completely, changed the entire understanding of those events.
__________
I've always said that if the CIA was involved, there would have been a hundred dead bystanders and JFK would have gotten away without a scratch.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (tgvbd)
352
331
You are truly a sexist swine.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow - Why yes my carpets and drapes match. at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (uv8gn)
Ah yes.......MSNOW is running ads on TV where Madcow reads the preamble to the Constitution......that thing that she previously said didn't exist........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
How about reading the preamble to the Bill of Rights? Especially the part that says, "...expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution..."
You are truly a sexist swine.
Posted by: Rachel Maddow - Why yes my carpets and drapes match. at December 10, 2025 02:36 PM (uv8gn)
Ah yes.......MSNOW is running ads on TV where Madcow reads the preamble to the Constitution......that thing that she previously said didn't exist........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)
How about reading the preamble to the Bill of Rights? Especially the part that says, "...expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution..."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (ynpvh)
353
Steel become plastic starting 1500 degrees f. Av fuel burns in a combustion chamber at 1796 to 2732 F. The 100th floor was a combustion chamber. Stop with thermite and controlled demolition.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
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HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
Yep. Again, I would argue, from my knowledge, no changes in building codes were done post 9-11 and no building I am aware of was retrofitted to resolve this fatal flaw. So this is negligence.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
Yep. Again, I would argue, from my knowledge, no changes in building codes were done post 9-11 and no building I am aware of was retrofitted to resolve this fatal flaw. So this is negligence.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (rbvCR)
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I would argue, from my knowledge, no changes in building codes were done post 9-11 and no building I am aware of was retrofitted to resolve this fatal flaw. So this is negligence.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (rbvCR)
Of course not, none of them are hardened for nukes either.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (rbvCR)
Of course not, none of them are hardened for nukes either.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (8avO+)
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>>Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
Dude. Come on. You slap a little Thermite Paint on those Ceiling Tiles and the entire thing is gonna come crashing down.
Trust the Structural Engineers in the Comments, please Sir. If for nothing else than comity.
Dude. Come on. You slap a little Thermite Paint on those Ceiling Tiles and the entire thing is gonna come crashing down.
Trust the Structural Engineers in the Comments, please Sir. If for nothing else than comity.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (TR2dy)
357
The Titanic was switched with it's sister ship, the Olympic.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (wVcYX)
358
Steel become plastic starting 1500 degrees f. Av fuel burns in a combustion chamber at 1796 to 2732 F. The 100th floor was a combustion chamber. Stop with thermite and controlled demolition.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
Has any other building fallen like this, for this reason?
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
Has any other building fallen like this, for this reason?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (rbvCR)
359
The 100th floor was a combustion chamber. Stop with thermite and controlled demolition.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
Plus a thin layer of thermite paint burning would probably not have enough material to raise the bulk of the beam's temperature enough.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
Plus a thin layer of thermite paint burning would probably not have enough material to raise the bulk of the beam's temperature enough.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:44 PM (8avO+)
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348 HAHAHAHA!! I worked in those buildings for years as a transmitter engineer. We had access to parts of those buildings that most others did not. Most of us, who witnessed the attacks were surprised they stood as long as they did. So stop with the retarded bullshit already. Once the floor trusses weakened and twisted, the end was written. Good grief.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
There's a story about a high rise that after it was built it was discovered that some engineering goofs in the plans and an unplanned build error meant the entire thing would pancake in the next high wind scenario. in NYC.
They found a patch fix and secretly applied it to the building before it blew over.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (8avO+)
The engineers didn't consider what would happen if a wind blew on the diagonal instead of a flat face...
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 02:37 PM (5xuJ/)
There's a story about a high rise that after it was built it was discovered that some engineering goofs in the plans and an unplanned build error meant the entire thing would pancake in the next high wind scenario. in NYC.
They found a patch fix and secretly applied it to the building before it blew over.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (8avO+)
The engineers didn't consider what would happen if a wind blew on the diagonal instead of a flat face...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:44 PM (ynpvh)
361
was killed in a prison overseen by Bill Bar, Donald Barr's son.
I know, he was blackmailing people. It is obvious from the dental chair.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (rbvCR)
thank you, the Barr family connection was something I had not run across before.
I know, he was blackmailing people. It is obvious from the dental chair.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:24 PM (rbvCR)
thank you, the Barr family connection was something I had not run across before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 02:44 PM (uWKK8)
362
All the Vatican walls were graffitied during the reign of Pope Urban VII.
Posted by: Papal Nuncio at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (oftw2)
Romani go to house?
Posted by: Papal Nuncio at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (oftw2)
Romani go to house?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (wVcYX)
363
353 Steel become plastic starting 1500 degrees f. Av fuel burns in a combustion chamber at 1796 to 2732 F. The 100th floor was a combustion chamber. Stop with thermite and controlled demolition.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
It doesn't even have to become plastic; it just has to weaken enough to not be able to handle the weight its holding up.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
It doesn't even have to become plastic; it just has to weaken enough to not be able to handle the weight its holding up.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
364
And we stopped going to the moon why?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ufetp)
365
Of course not, none of them are hardened for nukes either.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (8avO+)
and yet we were expecting more planes to fly in and car-bomb buildings at any moment. It would seem a simple thing to change, at least in new built structures.
Oregon, the cheapest bastards in the world, upgraded on the chance that there would be a big earthquake sometime in the next century. It was quite profitable for the state, as well.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (8avO+)
and yet we were expecting more planes to fly in and car-bomb buildings at any moment. It would seem a simple thing to change, at least in new built structures.
Oregon, the cheapest bastards in the world, upgraded on the chance that there would be a big earthquake sometime in the next century. It was quite profitable for the state, as well.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (rbvCR)
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357 The Titanic was switched with it's sister ship, the Olympic.
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (wVcYX)
The Ozempic never sank...
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (wVcYX)
The Ozempic never sank...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
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358 Steel become plastic starting 1500 degrees f. Av fuel burns in a combustion chamber at 1796 to 2732 F. The 100th floor was a combustion chamber. Stop with thermite and controlled demolition.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
Has any other building fallen like this, for this reason?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (rbvCR)
WTC Building 7.
Posted by: Fire triangle at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (AoMt0)
Has any other building fallen like this, for this reason?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (rbvCR)
WTC Building 7.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (uWKK8)
368
I would argue, from my knowledge, no changes in building codes were done post 9-11 and no building I am aware of was retrofitted to resolve this fatal flaw. So this is negligence.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (rbvCR)
I don't believe the city of Hiroshima changed their building codes after the events of August 6, 1945, either.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:39 PM (rbvCR)
I don't believe the city of Hiroshima changed their building codes after the events of August 6, 1945, either.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (npFr7)
369
The Ozempic?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (ufetp)
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Has any other building fallen like this, for this reason?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (rbvCR)
Well 5 buildings in Hong Kong recently burned when the plastic netting around bamboo scaffolding over flammable surfaces caught fire because the netting was not flame retardant. Don't know if the buildings went down completely though, you can look yourself.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:43 PM (rbvCR)
Well 5 buildings in Hong Kong recently burned when the plastic netting around bamboo scaffolding over flammable surfaces caught fire because the netting was not flame retardant. Don't know if the buildings went down completely though, you can look yourself.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (8avO+)
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362 All the Vatican walls were graffitied during the reign of Pope Urban VII.
Posted by: Papal Nuncio at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (oftw2)
Romani go to house?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (wVcYX)
LOL
Posted by: Papal Nuncio at December 10, 2025 02:41 PM (oftw2)
Romani go to house?
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (wVcYX)
LOL
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
372
And we stopped going to the moon why?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ufetp)
Nobody goes there anymore. It got too crowded.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ufetp)
Nobody goes there anymore. It got too crowded.
Posted by: Yogi Berra at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (wVcYX)
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I don't believe the city of Hiroshima changed their building codes after the events of August 6, 1945, either.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (npFr7)
B29s are strictly banned.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (npFr7)
B29s are strictly banned.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:47 PM (8avO+)
374
And we stopped going to the moon why?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ufetp)
Nobody goes there anymore. It got too crowded.
Posted by: Yogi Berra at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (wVcYX)
William Proxmire and the Democrats.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (ufetp)
Nobody goes there anymore. It got too crowded.
Posted by: Yogi Berra at December 10, 2025 02:46 PM (wVcYX)
William Proxmire and the Democrats.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:47 PM (8avO+)
375
Put the moon lander in a wind tunnel.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:48 PM (ufetp)
376
Oregon, the cheapest bastards in the world, upgraded on the chance that there would be a big earthquake sometime in the next century. It was quite profitable for the state, as well.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (rbvCR)
Probably not enough to cover the massive quakes that happen there every thousand years or so. Last one drowned towns in Japan.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (rbvCR)
Probably not enough to cover the massive quakes that happen there every thousand years or so. Last one drowned towns in Japan.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:49 PM (8avO+)
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365 Of course not, none of them are hardened for nukes either.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (8avO+)
and yet we were expecting more planes to fly in and car-bomb buildings at any moment. It would seem a simple thing to change, at least in new built structures.
Oregon, the cheapest bastards in the world, upgraded on the chance that there would be a big earthquake sometime in the next century. It was quite profitable for the state, as well.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (rbvCR)
There was an estimated 9+ that hit January 26, 1700. It was recorded as an orphan tsunami in Japan, and recounted in oral histories of the natives. Plenty of geological evidence to it's fury. Based on trenching of various areas, big quakes like that happen every 200 to 500 years, so yes, Cascadia is due and if a 1700-level quake hits, the entire west coast of OR and WA will be erased.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:42 PM (8avO+)
and yet we were expecting more planes to fly in and car-bomb buildings at any moment. It would seem a simple thing to change, at least in new built structures.
Oregon, the cheapest bastards in the world, upgraded on the chance that there would be a big earthquake sometime in the next century. It was quite profitable for the state, as well.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:45 PM (rbvCR)
There was an estimated 9+ that hit January 26, 1700. It was recorded as an orphan tsunami in Japan, and recounted in oral histories of the natives. Plenty of geological evidence to it's fury. Based on trenching of various areas, big quakes like that happen every 200 to 500 years, so yes, Cascadia is due and if a 1700-level quake hits, the entire west coast of OR and WA will be erased.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:49 PM (ynpvh)
378
There are no fast food places on the Moon
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 02:50 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 02:50 PM (ynpvh)
380
Did the camera man stay on the moon?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:50 PM (ufetp)
381
jim, sometime in the next century.
Also, for the fun of it, Oregon state has no plans for dealing with the aftermath of such an earthquake.
Also, for the fun of it, Oregon state has no plans for dealing with the aftermath of such an earthquake.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 02:51 PM (rbvCR)
382
"Look at the theories that covid was man-made and specifically leaked from the Wuhan Covid Lab. (Giveaway right there, huh?) Every few weeks we got another bit of information that tended to suggest -- and sometimes strongly suggest -- that covid was man-made in the Wuhan lab. And that Anthony Fauci knew it, and bribed scientists to lie about it."
Ehhhh. Paper came out very quickly showing how it was man-made, basically laying out the recipe; NIH quashed it. Later FOIA in ... 2022? .... showed NIH discussing it as manmade in Feb 2020 and taking steps to discredit and head off such papers.
DARPA whistleblower spilled all the beans on the projects involved in mid 2021, though this actually drew attention to one proposal when in fact the OTHER may have been undertaken.
Arkmedic on substack demonstrated patented Moderna content in the virus engineering process in Dec 2021.
Any of these three things alone was a slam dunk, case closed. This was not dribbling out clues - this was just the MSM, government, and big tech at government direction running MASSIVE censorship campaigns which are hard to overcome.
The same goes for the Epstein/pizzagate shit.
Ehhhh. Paper came out very quickly showing how it was man-made, basically laying out the recipe; NIH quashed it. Later FOIA in ... 2022? .... showed NIH discussing it as manmade in Feb 2020 and taking steps to discredit and head off such papers.
DARPA whistleblower spilled all the beans on the projects involved in mid 2021, though this actually drew attention to one proposal when in fact the OTHER may have been undertaken.
Arkmedic on substack demonstrated patented Moderna content in the virus engineering process in Dec 2021.
Any of these three things alone was a slam dunk, case closed. This was not dribbling out clues - this was just the MSM, government, and big tech at government direction running MASSIVE censorship campaigns which are hard to overcome.
The same goes for the Epstein/pizzagate shit.
Posted by: heya at December 10, 2025 02:52 PM (28ma9)
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>>Based on trenching of various areas, big quakes like that happen every 200 to 500 years, so yes, Cascadia is due and if a 1700-level quake hits, the entire west coast of OR and WA will be erased.
Juan de Fuca, PBUH.
Juan de Fuca, PBUH.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:53 PM (TR2dy)
384
Based on trenching of various areas, big quakes like that happen every 200 to 500 years, so yes, Cascadia is due and if a 1700-level quake hits, the entire west coast of OR and WA will be erased.
Juan de Fuca, PBUH.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:53 PM (TR2dy)
or if New Madrid pops off in Missouri. The Midwest doesn't have earthquake codes.
Juan de Fuca, PBUH.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2025 02:53 PM (TR2dy)
or if New Madrid pops off in Missouri. The Midwest doesn't have earthquake codes.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 10, 2025 02:55 PM (8avO+)
385
Newd.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 10, 2025 02:55 PM (ufetp)
386
Lies circle back to a single source that concocted them to begin with. Truth finds many unexpected confirmations from people who saw something that they didn't think much about but is a link in the chain of evidence of a true telling.
Posted by: geoffb at December 10, 2025 02:56 PM (r//c2)
387
Except banks don't create currency.
Banks create money. What do you think fractional reserves is all about?
Banks create money. What do you think fractional reserves is all about?
Posted by: MkY at December 10, 2025 02:56 PM (+Pp+Q)
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The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat