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Wednesday Morning Rant
Eventually, someone (presumably from the company) came down and got things cleared up, but it exposed an obvious gap in how driverless cars handle fairly routine problems. In this case, the cars (or a car - the company's statement is unclear) got snarled up in a dead-end street and had a collision while one or more of them was trying to do a multi-point turn to get out of it. Per the company:
In a statement, Waymo officials said that while making a multi-point turn on a dead-end street, two Waymos made "minor contact at low speed." "We are looking into this further, and when we encounter situations like this, we are able to learn from them and make improvements," a Waymo representative said.Low points for clarity, but there we have it. A very simple problem left the machinery unable to respond effectively, so they just stopped. And blocked traffic.
A third Waymo, traveling downhill, is unable to get through. Then a man comes out of his garage, dubbing the white cars stuck in the middle of the street as a "Waymo standoff." "I'm just trying to get out of here," the man said ...Yes, it's kinda funny. But it's also a great example of just how far all of this stuff has to go. Both vehicles were driverless and operated by the same company. This should be a "best-case scenario" for a collision. It's akin to you and your wife driving home and hitting each other in the driveway. Everybody knows everybody and can just move on. It's perhaps the simplest possible scenario - if humans are involved. Humans can come up with solutions like, "move the cars." Machines can't. They need to be programmed to make decisions. This was clearly a decision-making condition that hadn't been adequately predicted or handled. There were several weird variables here. Both cars were driverless. There was a dead-end street. At least one of the cars was doing a complex maneuver. There was cross-traffic. Tricky indeed, unless you're a person. If you're a person, you can cut through it and go with, "there's only minor damage. Give me your info and let's move on with our lives." To a person, one minor wreck is much like another. Machines, not so much. It's amazing that this stuff works at all, but incidents like this show just how complex the real world is, and how hard it is to deal with when you have to program ersatz intelligence into a machine with no real knowledge of the world. These are really hard problems to solve, and sometimes tiny little unpredictable problems expose that. They also expose just how far away we are from the dream of autonomous vehicles. We're a long way off from "feel free to take a nap in the back seat while the car takes you home."
Comments
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Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2025 11:00 AM (tljrc)
Clearly you have never gone to Costco at Thanksgiving or Christmas.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:02 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 10, 2025 11:03 AM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 10, 2025 11:03 AM (jFNww)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 10, 2025 11:04 AM (xG4kz)
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Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 10, 2025 11:04 AM (jFNww)
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Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 10, 2025 11:06 AM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 10, 2025 11:06 AM (A62KL)
If this occurred in NYC the waymos would be stripped to the chassis in minutes
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 10, 2025 11:06 AM (D+mpw)
Weigh up, ho!
A whim Waymo!
A whim Waymo!
A whim Waymo!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 10, 2025 11:04 AM (xG4kz)
In the jungle, the concrete jungle, the liars sleep tonight...
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Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:05 AM (xcxpd)
Even if it means Quato starts growing out of your chest?
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (UnA8+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (tgvbd)
'Tis the season of many vocalizations by me of, "If you can't drive it, leave it at home!" whenever I venture into parking lots between now and just after New Year's Day.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:05 AM (xcxpd)
Even if it means Quato starts growing out of your chest?
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (UnA8+)
Quato knows how to party, man.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:08 AM (xcxpd)
Also the depression and someone else's IP thing.
But this too.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 10, 2025 11:08 AM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 10, 2025 11:08 AM (cuae1)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 10, 2025 11:09 AM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 10, 2025 11:09 AM (WPL6O)
MONKEY!
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 10, 2025 11:08 AM (cuae1)
Mannix babe >>> Monkey
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 10, 2025 11:09 AM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Common Tater at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (y+G1Q)
Who gave approval for these machines to be on the road anyway? Were we allowed to vote on it?
It's bad enough we have drunk illegals tooling around in SUVs, now we have "autonomous" driverless vehicles.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (1zOXE)
"Asshole!"
"I had right of way!"
"What the F were you thinking?"
*gunfire*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM
Thank you for using Johnny Cab!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (bFu5X)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 10, 2025 11:08 AM (cuae1)
Mannix babe >>> Monkey
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 10, 2025 11:09 AM (tgvbd)
Fair point
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (xcxpd)
Right now I think that debate is happening with our carriers and the launch systems .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (Wg6v7)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (sDNVV)
Posted by: Sounds Safe To Me at December 10, 2025 11:11 AM (oftw2)
Posted by: t-bird at December 10, 2025 11:11 AM (9q3gn)
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (UnA8+)
Quato knows how to party, man.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:08 AM (xcxpd)
Hey don't knock Quato, man.
Posted by: Fetterman's Goiter at December 10, 2025 11:12 AM (uWKK8)
Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2025 11:12 AM (FhXTo)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:10 AM (bFu5X)
That really has to be Musk’s favorite movie.
Self driving vehicles
Mars colonies
Brain implants
Boring machines
AI
Three titted women
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:12 AM (KDPiq)
nature.com/articles/s41467-024-48526-4
The upshot is, autonomous is better than human in most conditions... except dawn or dusk. Which of course is rush hour.
Turning can also be bad.
But if you're driving through town for an errand at noonish, Johnny Cab is better at all those ped xing and stopsign opportunities.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 10, 2025 11:12 AM (qSHqn)
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Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:05 AM (xcxpd)
Even if it means Quato starts growing out of your chest?
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (UnA8+)
Quato knows how to party, man.
but can he drive a stick shift?
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:13 AM (sGtp+)
Palestinian Activist Says Hamas Hid Tons of Baby Formula to Damage Israel With Starvation Claims
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:13 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Common Tater at December 10, 2025 11:13 AM (y+G1Q)
Posted by: Sounds Safe To Me at December 10, 2025 11:11 AM (oftw2)
That's so they can hit Waymo kids.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (B43cA)
Who gave approval for these machines to be on the road anyway? Were we allowed to vote on it?
Bill Gates guffaws as he funds dumping lord-knows what into the atmosphere and "so brilliant one wonders why it wasn't done sooner" animalicules into natural creatures on the earth's surface and in its waters.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (xG4kz)
Driverless big rigs are in a word: terrifying
And what the hell happens when there's a glitch and GPS satellites go down -- or there's an electrical or mechanical malfunction in the vehicle?
Additionally, can you imagine the rebirth of essentially train and stagecoach robbers -- placing barriers in front of unmanned vehicles, which will force them to stop, and then looting their contents?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (eAryO)
And it's always "we never imagined in our wildest dreams that situation would occur."
At the cost of numerous lives. Bravo.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)
Maybe we should stay a long way off.
I work in manufacturing. Taking your attention away from a machine that can kill you and others is considered a bad idea.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (jbnUc)
This is one example of why I think AI hype is mostly hype. The real world is incredibly complex and humans tend to navigate these things easily yet to program a solution is… not easy at all (to be understated about it)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:15 AM (YobFY)
And the video was real since it was on the Internet.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:15 AM (dyewR)
Posted by: The Meepzor Precision Discount Driving School at December 10, 2025 11:16 AM (z7/Fg)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:16 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:05 AM (xcxpd)
Even if it means Quato starts growing out of your chest?
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:07 AM (UnA8+)
Quato knows how to party, man.
but can he drive a stick shift?
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:13 AM (sGtp+)
With Johnny Cab, it never really came up...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:16 AM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:16 AM (77rzZ)
What's the tie-breaker in a high speed merge?
The guard rail.
Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2025 11:16 AM (FhXTo)
i'm surprised that the driverless revolution didn't start with trains
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:16 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Common Tater
Except...electric vehicles like to shut down COMPLETELY over seemingly minor incidents. Yet another reason to ban the damn things.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (OUMaO)
And the video was real since it was on the Internet.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:15 AM (dyewR)
👍🏽
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (z7/Fg)
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (MqnoG)
The technology will continue to rapidly improve. Human drivers will not.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (Riz8t)
And the video was real since it was on the Internet.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:15 AM (dyewR)
This is the worst idea ever. Humanity canNOT handle flying cars. More often than not, you'll wind up with some incorrigible douchebag in your living room.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (eAryO)
This makes me think of that scene in Better Call Saul when grizzled old Mike Ehrmentraut anticipates another ambush of one of their drug trucks so he hides in the freezer car and ends up taking out the “bad guys” and getting shot in the ear in the process…. Maybe Waymo can transport drugs for the cartels….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (YobFY)
Posted by: anachronda
Yeah, but you can't control the plebs with driverless trains...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (OUMaO)
What? This is exactly how we would have handled the situation in the slums of Calcutta.
We have re-created human intelligence!
Posted by: H1-b's at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (9q3gn)
It doesn’t help that the push for driverlessness is running parallel to the elimination of all customer service. I dread being in a fender bender with a driverless car, and having to call Waymo’s 800 number phone-tree in India.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (4J/ng)
Posted by: Common Tater
Houston passed an ordinance requiring vehicles must be moved.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: a green dildo at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (qSHqn)
Posted by: Leo Weiser Automobile Club Of America at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (oftw2)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)
Seems they should swap company names.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
Raised a lot of teenage boys have you?
Posted by: gKWVE at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (qSHqn)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (8gejw)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)
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I was literally just about to post this. Had to look up Wham-O's exact spelling first.
Great morons think alike!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (sQBXy)
This morning some Euro's were discussing whether or not there was any way to remove sitting EU Commissioners from office. When they realized it was not, I started to post "Gavrilo Princip has an idea!"
but I figured some Eurofag would complain and I didn't want to go to the trouble of having to start a new account, so I self censored.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (uWKK8)
And what the hell happens when there's a glitch and GPS satellites go down -- or there's an electrical or mechanical malfunction in the vehicle?
It's my guess that we will eventually have roads exclusively for autonomous trucks. Imagine how much better traffic will be when it's just cars on the road.
Additionally, can you imagine the rebirth of essentially train and stagecoach robbers -- placing barriers in front of unmanned vehicles, which will force them to stop, and then looting their contents?
One word: Robocop.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)
‘ Palestinian Activist Says Hamas Hid Tons of Baby Formula to Damage Israel With Starvation Claims’
I wish someone would think of the Gazan children for a change.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
Case came up recently, forget which state, but essentially the judge threw out a ticket for a Waymo car because the law did not encompass driverless cars--there was no human to ticket.
Self driving cars/trucks will have to result in changes to tort and traffic laws in general if adopted widely.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)
You’ll end up with old evil Biff sneaking into your flying delorean to alter the future into some bleak dystopia….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (YobFY)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)
Seems they should swap company names.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
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Why? What bad thing did Wham-O ever do to you?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (sQBXy)
Posted by: Leo Weiser Automobile Club Of America at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (oftw2)
In Finland, they require yutes to basically take a rally driving course before they're issued a license so they're trained on handling a car in most situations, including slides, drifts and icy conditions.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Less Is More at December 10, 2025 11:21 AM (oftw2)
but I figured some Eurofag would complain and I didn't want to go to the trouble of having to start a new account, so I self censored.
Kind of makes you appreciate AOSHQ even more, n'est ce pas.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:21 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (YobFY)
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They never explained how evil old Biff returned to the same future that he left after delivering the goods to young Biff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:21 AM (dyewR)
Why? What bad thing did Wham-O ever do to you?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (sQBXy)
I took a frisbee off the forehead once and it took years of therapy for me to recover.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)
Shedeur Sanders Mom Is Still Calling Out Cleveland Browns Coaches
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)
They unintentionally hone in on each other as the largest sources of metal in the asteroid field, collide, and then tear each other part.
The designer of the mining robots is watching all of this unfold. He simply nods his head and says, "Now I know what to fix for next time."
His employer, who bankrolled the robots in expectation of a huge return on investment was FURIOUS.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 10, 2025 11:22 AM (RnixX)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 10, 2025 11:22 AM (Wg6v7)
You’ll end up with old evil Biff sneaking into your flying delorean to alter the future into some bleak dystopia….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (YobFY)
Get your damn hands off her........Biff.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)
Self driving cars/trucks will have to result in changes to tort and traffic laws in general if adopted widely.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (WDjG6)
The human programmer who is covered for liability by his employer for torts arising out of his job. Ticket Waymo.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)
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THIS! We're dipping a toe in the water with the wealthy getting their electric powered single passenger flying cars.
Bad idea.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (UeLv+)
Posted by: Sponge
In the Soviet Union (and maybe still in Russia?), you had to be able to make your own repairs on a car to get a license. Because they didn't exactly have a lot of spare parts that you could just order from the factory.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (77rzZ)
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This is what happens when you offshore QA to India.
Ask me how I know ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (MqnoG)
Imagine, for example, ordering something for pick up, and having no need for you to go with your car to get it...
But in our ever more low trust society what fool would do that?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)
One word: Robocop.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)
Even better - Robo Ronin
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (uWKK8)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:21 AM
At least it wasn't a lawn dart.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (bFu5X)
In a world where cars are rented and automatically deliver themselves to the customer and then to the storage location when the customer is done, most of the driving will be without passengers.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (EXyHK)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 10, 2025 11:22 AM (Wg6v7)
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At least you'd still be on planet Earth and not orbiting Pluto.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (RnixX)
Already happening, just with boring old trains. Widespread problems of breaking into rail cars and looting them in some areas. Same with parked trailers or hijacking when drivers go in for coffee, food, etc. of high value targets.
Goodfellas even has brief scenes where Jimmy's crew hijack truck cargos, often with the driver's assistance by making a stop convenient to the crew so it could occur. Mob control of Teamsters, trucking, and even air freight operations at key places enabled a lot of theft based on inside men placed or corrupted in place working those jobs.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: anachronda
Yeah, but you can't control the plebs with driverless trains...
but it will improve the reliability and regularity of our soma deliveries.
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (sGtp+)
Ask me how I know ...
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No. Ask me how I know!
Posted by: The 737MAX at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (dyewR)
But in our ever more low trust society what fool would do that?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)
GO AWAY!!!!!
'BAITIN!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM (ahamg)
Like being driven to your own robbery or murder instead of elsewhere. Jumping in one for an emergency trip to the hospital but getting stuck instead.
There are people stupid enough to become totally dependent on this sort of thing. Just like they're dependent on DoorDash or whatever.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: Allen Jenkins In A Cab at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)
Now I'm in a worse place.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM (jjoN6)
At least it wasn't a lawn dart.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (bFu5X)
That was in my right calf.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Harrison Ford crashing into your living room at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (sKqQm)
The tech is only a few years old. It’s always improving and it won’t be that long until the backseat scenario is real.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (1zOXE)
Posted by: ShainS
Been saying that since they proposed the idea. A mannequin and voila! Stopped vehicle for easy pickings.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (+Oyis)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (bFu5X)
That was in my right calf.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM
Explains why you're not an adventurer, I guess. Or is that knees...?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:27 AM (bFu5X)
Posted by: Allen Jenkins In A Cab at December 10, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)
Now all they say is ALLAH WHAKBAR!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (uWKK8)
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (DQRr+)
Posted by: 18-1
Waymo is better than having joe illegal sample your food before delivery.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (jFNww)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (77rzZ)
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I wonder if this also applied to Aeroflot pilots?
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (MqnoG)
Posted by: the way I see it
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That is one way to do it. Red Light Traffic cameras do it that way, target the car and not the driver.
The problem being of course that drivers running red lights are exactly the ones causing accidents at other intersections--punishing the car is a much less efficient way (except for revenues) than the driver.
Modern society is all about allocating costs, preferably to third parties, while privatizing benefits.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (WDjG6)
The opens up not only the end of taxi/uber driver as a job but opens up an opportunity for people that own a car they don't use a lot - because then you can have your own "AirBnB" for taxi type service where you can monetize your car without any need to spend time on it yourself
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (sKqQm)
The tech is only a few years old. It’s always improving and it won’t be that long until the backseat scenario is real.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (9iyS+)
My favorite is the video where the car glitches in a parking lot and goes into a full steering lock and goes in a circle. The dude calls the number and tells them to stop the car or he'll throw up everywhere. The car doesn't respond to remote commands.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
read a short story once. humans come upon a high-technology, but abandoned world. has teleportation booths all over the place, but they occasionally make mistakes with assorted body parts. engineer figures out what's causing the mistakes, but also discovers that the reason the planet is abandoned is that the entire population had entered the teleportation system at the same time following a coronation and became stuck inside the system. fixing the bug causes the planet's population to reappear.
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:28 AM (sGtp+)
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The states will eventually adopt a sort of "captain of the ship" doctrine that makes the human responsible for the dick moves of its silicon-brained "crew."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:29 AM (dyewR)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 10, 2025 11:29 AM (NqmUn)
That would never happen. We've enacted a regulation forbidding it. -- Bureaucrats on the take from driverless vehicle companies
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 10, 2025 11:29 AM (ExV1e)
Explains why you're not an adventurer, I guess. Or is that knees...?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:27 AM (bFu5X)
That was all the frostbite that one time climbing Kilimanjaro with Beau Biden during the War of 1812.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)
I think Bill and Ted covered that base
Posted by: Halfhand at December 10, 2025 11:30 AM (F061L)
Posted by: Allen Jenkins In A Cab
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We have automated that. Cameras everywhere nowadays, cell phone geofencing, and automated license plate readers are society's narcs.
Nuisance and cost of business to criminals, massive loss of privacy for the rest of us.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:30 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
There is at least one YouTube star who would try to make that a reality.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 10, 2025 11:30 AM (jjoN6)
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 11:30 AM (DQRr+)
hmm.... *scribbles note* robot shoe-shine boy modeled on johnny from police squad.
i wonder if elon will fund me?
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (sGtp+)
18 and life, you got it........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)
I think Bill and Ted covered that base
Posted by: Halfhand at December 10, 2025 11:30 AM (F061L)
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Junior went through a Back to the Future cycle over the last week or so. Watched all three just cause he could.
Fandango at Home collection for the win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
Like being driven to your own robbery or murder instead of elsewhere. Jumping in one for an emergency trip to the hospital but getting stuck instead.
Having the internal cameras determine that you are a member of a disfavored group and so you are driven to a 're-education' camp.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (ExV1e)
A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision
We'll be clean when their work is done
We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young
IGY - Donald Fagen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (pkeXY)
There was a multi-tenant office and 4 or 5 restaurants in the same center.
The Waymos would all circle the circle at least twice, sometimes 3 times to get their bearings.
A lady at the bar said the record she counted was 12 times.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 10, 2025 11:14 AM (xG4kz)
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We're gonna blot out The Sun to save The Earth!
What could go wrong?
/And finally kill off the virus known as "humanity" ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (MqnoG)
But a transporter; nope that thing’ll rip your soul into shreds….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (/iXAp)
Having the internal cameras determine that you are a member of a disfavored group and so you are driven to a 're-education' camp.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (ExV1e)
I've seen Fake Taxi.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: whig
Yeah, tell me about it. Maybe someone should take a picture of YOU passed out in a bathroom, sometime, Bob from NSA.
-- Raccoon who broke into a Virginia ABC store
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: InZona at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (C6rN0)
A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellows with compassion and vision
We'll be clean when their work is done
We'll be eternally free yes and eternally young
IGY - Donald Fagen
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (pkeXY)
I'm just old enough to have dated a woman who named her vibrator Steely Daniel.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Nemo at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (4RPgu)
Posted by: Bill Gates, Tech Weirdo With Man Boobs at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (bC9HI)
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 10, 2025 11:
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Or there happens to be an insect traveling along with you: "The Fly"
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM (B43cA)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM (L/fGl)
Every engineer worth his salt knows that Mother Nature will always fuck with you.
Posted by: pawn at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM (EMg+d)
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Turns out the Earf is lucky that humankind arrived just when it did. God only knows what would have happened if Bill Gates wasn't around with his hare-brained ideas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM (dyewR)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (/iXAp)
Star Trek the Movie someone gets blobbed
What got transported didnt live long or something to that effect was the line.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM (DQRr+)
Posted by: JM
Saw that on TCM not too long ago (the original, that is). Really like the pretty ginger wife.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (/iXAp)
But in our ever more low trust society what fool would do that?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)
GO AWAY!!!!!
'BAITIN!!!!!
not certain whether typo or ordering automated delivery from an outdoor supply store.
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (lF28Z)
Waymos with sex dolls. The wife thinks you're going to the grocery store, but you're not.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)
The tech is only a few years old. It’s always improving and it won’t be that long until the backseat scenario is real.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Waymo is careful not to involve cars outside of low speed areas. Physics is an unforgiving bitch and like the railroads made a lot of corporate and trial lawyers rich including one Abraham Lincoln in the 1800's, so will the juxtaposition of human driven cars and automated ones at high speeds. Throw in self driving trucks into the mix and the massive capital structures needed to pull it off, then you have a trial lawyer's dream and likewise permanent employment for corporate legal offices.
Then you have the issue of hacking including state sponsored ones.
Edge cases will end up setting the general rule.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
She was stealing the name......
His seminal work, Naked Lunch, which he published in 1959, is a connected series of loosely-related vignettes. It was later turned into a movie. In it, the reader follows the narration of drug addict William Lee, who travels from the U.S. to Mexico to Tangier. It’s a fever dream of a book that includes drug use and hallucinations.
Another thing in the novel is a reference to dildos.
One of those dildos was named—you guessed it—Steely Dan.
Fans of the Beat writers, Fagen and Becker named their band after a “revolutionary” steam-powered dildo noted in Naked Lunch.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)
that'll be britain in a few years.
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:36 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (xcxpd)
F***ing Naked Lunch... *grumbles*
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:36 AM (UnA8+)
Waymos with sex dolls. The wife thinks you're going to the grocery store, but you're not.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)
25 bux
same as downtown
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 10, 2025 11:36 AM (gbOdA)
The crew felt the same way (almost). Otherwise they would have used the transporter to solve a whole lot of problems instead of waiting to be captured or sneaking across a gigantic building.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 10, 2025 11:36 AM (EXyHK)
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (sGtp+)
It guarantees the correct pronunciation.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)
‘ I'm just old enough to have dated a woman who named her vibrator Steely Daniel.’
Did she get rid of it when she started dating you because she didn’t need it anymore?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:37 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:37 AM (DOn9w)
Study Finds One in Four British Teens Using AI Chatbots for Mental Health Support
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
Great morons think alike!
Posted by: Biden's Dog
Unfortunately, t-bird beat us both to it at #35.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (77rzZ)
But a transporter; nope that thing’ll rip your soul into shreds….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:32 AM (/iXAp)
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There were a lot of times on that show where people were beamed around against their will. Especially from lower-tech societies that didn't have that tech yet.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (RnixX)
Waymos with sex dolls. The wife thinks you're going to the grocery store, but you're not.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Some of the most recent ones in Japan/China are becoming astonishingly accurate and lifelike if still staying just inside the not quite human side of the uncanny valley.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (WDjG6)
Out: Uber
In: The Bang Bus
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (sKqQm)
But it passed all of our tests! By way of example, a Waymo will never lose a game of Tic-Tac-Toe.
Posted by: H1-b's at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (9q3gn)
We're long past the time when humans took driving seriously and paid attention to the repair of their vehicles and to the road when they're on it. Now, cars are mostly an appliance used out of necessity, and driving isn't fun because of all the retards on the roads.
Do I still long for the days of muscle cars and manual transmissions? Yes. Am I Bitterly Clinging to those days? Nah. Driving has long been not-fun, so let a machine do it for me instead, like mowing the lawn.
Posted by: ballistic at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (3BwY8)
Posted by: Nemo at December 10, 2025 11:33 AM (4RPgu)
Same idea for drunks and drugs addicts.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (9iyS+)
As part of their final exam scores my class last night (A Business 300 level course) had to give a briefing on something from the IT venue. (I've been teaching them how to give a briefing...something college kids need to know.) One team chose Machine Learning.
They came up with this exact same comment.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (P845J)
The Amazon, UPS and FedEx drivers all get directions and can navigate to the most remote location to deliver whatever... but could a robot taxi or delivery vehicle do it?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (NwnyJ)
‘ I'm just old enough to have dated a woman who named her vibrator Steely Daniel.’
Did she get rid of it when she started dating you because she didn’t need it anymore?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:37 AM (jbnUc)
This place cracks me up….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (YobFY)
Posted by: Halfhand at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (F061L)
Study Finds One in Four British Teens Using AI Chatbots for Mental Health Support
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
The fact that we're no longer able to handle anything mentally and need to get support from an automated computer algorithm saddens me to great lenghts.
Society is f*cked.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (sKqQm)
What got transported didnt live long or something to that effect was the line.
galaxy quest: "and then it exploded"
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (sGtp+)
Waymos with sex dolls. The wife thinks you're going to the grocery store, but you're not.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)
25 bux
same as downtown
Posted by: rhennigantx
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I think somewhere in Germany, there is already a sex doll brothel making bank. Berlin perhaps.
Then again, Germany had, dunno if they finally outlawed it, a bestiality brothel somewhere in N. Germany.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)
We did that on our own on a winding sandy road around a lake. We called it Thunder Road.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (g8Ew8)
Fandango at Home collection for the win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
Oy, another streaming service.
Do they have Otto Preminger movies?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
I think Hulk explained that in Endgame.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (WPL6O)
put me in, coach!
Posted by: chatgpt at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (9iyS+)
Oy, another streaming service.
Do they have Otto Preminger movies?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
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Digital footlocker, mostly for rentals/ownership. They do have some free, ad-supported stuff, but I never see the Preminger movies listed on it as for free.
I just use it as a digital backup for my physical collection.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (cYBz/)
The Amazon, UPS and FedEx drivers all get directions and can navigate to the most remote location to deliver whatever... but could a robot taxi or delivery vehicle do it?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
With access to GPS and dense internal mapping, probably. But probably not profitable yet like Amazon's drone delivery service by air. Densely populated areas will be first.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (P845J)
456 Bags of Human Remains Found Steps From World Cup Venue in Mexico
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM
So, Wednesday in Mexico City?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (bFu5X)
Posted by: whig
Probably only goats there, now, since the muzzies moved in.
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 11:42 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (L/fGl)
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Johanny B Gute!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:42 AM (2c/nq)
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:42 AM (sGtp+)
With access to GPS and dense internal mapping, probably. But probably not profitable yet like Amazon's drone delivery service by air. Densely populated areas will be first.
It's a Chinese plot, I tellz ya! We'll all get used to drones overhead, and then they'll invade and send in the drones to take us out. We'll never see it coming!
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
Sounds like a potential franchise. Go on a trip, stop by the local robot brothel. It finds your account and sets up a partner with your preferences pre-loaded.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (jjoN6)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
She was stealing the name......
His seminal work, Naked Lunch, which he published in 1959, . . . .
"seminal" work. Heh.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (cYBz/)
I think Hulk explained that in Endgame.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM (WPL6O)
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II is weird, and the Bobs should have written an opening where the Delorean vanishes into the sky, we hold on the sky, and then it comes right back.
Marty, Jennifer, and Doc get out. "Wow, what a crazy adventure. Thanks for coming along, Jennifer. Marty and I have to go and do another adventure in another time now."
I mean, the ending of the first was a joke with no intention of follow up. Treating it seriously like they had to actually fill in that gap of the story was a mistake because it robs II of any kind of narrative cohesion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
We did that on our own on a winding sandy road around a lake. We called it Thunder Road.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 10, 2025 11:40 AM
I did that on the rural roads of North Texas in a 66 Mustang 3-spd.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (9iyS+)
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Maybe that's the real reason for the accident--the Waymos were all texting each other.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (RnixX)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 10, 2025 11:44 AM (8CIFn)
‘ Then again, Germany had, dunno if they finally outlawed it, a bestiality brothel somewhere in N. Germany.’
How much is that doggie in the window!
Woof!Woof!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:44 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: ballistic at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (3BwY
I've always loved driving. Still do - city or country -on any type of road. It's freedom.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 10, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)
Drove the wifes new car the other day and used the cruise control. Apparently it has a feature that keeps your car between the lines of the lane and the steering wheel corrects your steering and stiffens up against my turning it. I hated it. Had to read online how to disengage this function, as new cars don't come with owners manuals anymore just websites that you have to go to. I hate modern technology. In a few years we won't be able to drive the cars ourselves, we'll be Uber passengers in our own cars.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 10, 2025 11:45 AM (IifOV)
In: The Bang Bus
the big bus > the bang bus
non-stop from new york to denver!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Bus
Posted by: anachronda at December 10, 2025 11:45 AM (sGtp+)
It certainly could use sensors in different wavelengths - something that humans can't do. In addition, it won't say "nahhh, it'll be fine, I have an AWD SUV", while accelerating into a blizzard.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:45 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2025 11:45 AM (Tbj3s)
In theory you can use all sorts of sensors that don't need human light levels.
Though I remember there was one self driving crash years ago because a silver colored truck reflected enough sunlight to blind all of the self driving car's sensors.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:45 AM (sKqQm)
456 Bags of Human Remains Found Steps From World Cup Venue in Mexico
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:34 AM
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"If only there was a large desert around in which to bury them for good."
/La Cosa Nostra, Vegas-style
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:46 AM (2c/nq)
Marty, Jennifer, and Doc get out. "Wow, what a crazy adventure. Thanks for coming along, Jennifer. Marty and I have to go and do another adventure in another time now."
I mean, the ending of the first was a joke with no intention of follow up. Treating it seriously like they had to actually fill in that gap of the story was a mistake because it robs II of any kind of narrative cohesion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
The Libyans should have stolen the Delorean and used it to Allahu Akbar throughout time, leaving it up to Marty and Doc to stop them.
Posted by: XTC at December 10, 2025 11:46 AM (UnA8+)
True story.
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 10, 2025 11:46 AM (van9r)
Though I remember there was one self driving crash years ago because a silver colored truck reflected enough sunlight to blind all of the self driving car's sensors.
Variable gain is your friend.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:46 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:46 AM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
She was stealing the name......
His seminal work, Naked Lunch, which he published in 1959, . . . .
"seminal" work. Heh.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 11:43 AM (cYBz/)
I did not know that. I just never could listen to Aja the same way again.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (xcxpd)
So do you think I have a problem because I want to go see Kill Bill only to check how it compares to my home cinema experience? I trust your judgment.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (lF28Z)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 10, 2025 11:44 AM (8CIFn)
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Where we're going, we don't need *eyes* to see...
Posted by: Dr. William Weir at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (RnixX)
True story.
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 10, 2025 11:46 AM (van9r)
Is it bad to giggle at that?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Archimedes
Or - have the ability to communicate with other vehicles about location, speed, etc. Could avoid those monster pileups during blizzards.
But - the downsides would be (probably are) immense.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (cYBz/)
‘ I hate modern technology.’
I don’t hate modern technology. I hate the people that insist on it being in places it doesn’t belong.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Long ago, I was involved in summarizing changing legal responses to cellular phones and traffic accidents. Even a long involved conversations via cell, hands free, increased the risk of driver inattention and thus wrecks. Texting by far was the worst of driver distractions equivalent to a very drunk driver if manually manipulating the phone. Still problematic even if voice free.
Short, unemotional hands free texts or conversations demonstrated much less risk.
Often though you get compounded risks, marijuana usage has soared resulting in more wrecks whether driving or via residual effects, eating and drinking in cars, cell phone usage, problematic and ill placed auto controls, passengers, etc. all distract drivers to some degree.
Figure every driver around you is out to kill you on the roads as a principle . Use that fear to figure out how to mentally avoid their fiendish plots--hitting you from behind, sideswiping, stopping abruptly in front of you, idiot pedestrians, tboning at intersections.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (WDjG6)
214 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)
So do you think I have a problem because I want to go see Kill Bill only to check how it compares to my home cinema experience? I trust your judgment.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (lF28Z)
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I want to go see The Whole Bloody Affair, bruh.
Why would there be something wrong with you?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
The Amazon, UPS and FedEx drivers all get directions and can navigate to the most remote location to deliver whatever... but could a robot taxi or delivery vehicle do it?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 10, 2025 11:39 AM (NwnyJ)
Exactly. In our area, add trees and hills which block GPS signals, and Google Maps which thinks that our private road intersects with the public road about 100 feet west of where it actually does, and the possibility for hilarity/disaster increases exponentially.
Posted by: HTL at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (M88Pg)
Is it really expensive to do the mapping autonomously? That vehicle (or drone), again with no human onboard, could do it slowly the first time, and after that, Waymos can drive at normal speeds.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (Riz8t)
Had a rental care with this feature last February. It did not like merging onto highways, because the disappearing line to the left confused it, and it especially didn’t like giving semis a slightly wider berth when passing them.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (EXyHK)
I did not know that. I just never could listen to Aja the same way again.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 11:47 AM (xcxpd)
I'm proud to have added a wrinkle to your brain.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (Zz0t1)
But - the downsides would be (probably are) immense.
Can't wait until a right leaning politician's driving record is released to the public and ohhh wow...he was having an affair obviously he has to resign!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:49 AM (sKqQm)
* well, back when they made the packaging properly - now I don't even bother to try and use the designed-in easy-open feature (tear strips) because either the material or the manufacturing in many cases means it doesn't work, just get a scissors to start.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2025 11:49 AM (U/Byj)
I remember riding with my Grandfather and his cruise control was a stick he had cut to the perfect length he wedged against the accelerator pedal and lower part of the bench seat. Kept his old Chevy Caprice at 75 on the long trips so his leg wouldn't cramp up.
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 10, 2025 11:49 AM (IifOV)
Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2025 11:50 AM (Tbj3s)
Posted by: InZona
>How many times has a Tesla crashed into a cop car because the 'mobile cell tower on 4 wheels' threw off the telemetry of the fucking "autonomous" EV?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 11:50 AM (1zOXE)
Posted by: Archimedes
Or - have the ability to communicate with other vehicles about location, speed, etc. Could avoid those monster pileups during blizzards.
But - the downsides would be (probably are) immense.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Edge cases. Driverless cars will be a legal paradigm change and coexistence with human drivers is going to be a massive challenge. Human juries have knowledge of human driver frailty--will they give that benefit of the doubt for AI driven cars or punish the corporations producing them harshly in court.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:50 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: tubal at December 10, 2025 11:50 AM (Tbj3s)
And 3 tits.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)
I reckon cruise missile navigation tech will be handy here.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
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This too is the story of Kamala Harris' 2024 presidential campaign.
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 11:51 AM (/iMjX)
Why would there be something wrong with you?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
Because I'm not going for the movie itself. I'm good on Kill Bill although it's one of my favorites. I just want to compare it to my setup.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 11:51 AM (lF28Z)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (Riz8t)
Yes it is expensive and time consuming.
From Waymo:
To create a map for a new location, our team starts by manually driving our sensor equipped vehicles down each street, so our custom lidar can paint a 3D picture of the new environment. This data is then processed to form a map that provides meaningful context for the Waymo Driver, such as speed limits and where lane lines and traffic signals are located. Then finally, before a map gets shared with the rest of the self-driving fleet, we test and verify it so it’s ready to be deployed.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:51 AM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 10, 2025 11:52 AM (8CIFn)
Or, here could be a fun one.
The NSA/CIA/FBI/whoever sets up one of those fake cell towers they use regularly.
Some self driving car uses their data which is bad and crashes.
And...the NSA/CIA/FBI/whoever tells them to screw off....
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:52 AM (sKqQm)
Posted by: Frank Barone at December 10, 2025 11:49 AM (IifOV)
Dad had a 67 Mustang for a bit that had a choke knob you could pull that worked the throttle as a cruise control as well.
Fun to think back at how sofa king dangerous that was.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)
Sounds like a potential franchise. Go on a trip, stop by the local robot brothel. It finds your account and sets up a partner with your preferences pre-loaded.
Posted by: NR Pax
Have it your way at McWhores!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 11:51 AM (lF28Z)
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The screen will be bigger, maybe brighter. The sound will be better, definitely louder.
And, who knows, maybe you'll have a good crowd to watch it along with.
I recommend it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
Edge cases. Driverless cars will be a legal paradigm change and coexistence with human drivers is going to be a massive challenge. Human juries have knowledge of human driver frailty--will they give that benefit of the doubt for AI driven cars or punish the corporations producing them harshly in court.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:50 AM (WDjG6)
"We lose 20 to 25% of the hostages. Tops."
"I can live with that.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skier at December 10, 2025 11:53 AM (0Ctrb)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
And yet a poor substitute for when I am away.
Posted by: The Paolo at December 10, 2025 11:54 AM (P845J)
Of course. But that’s to keep you safe. You know? Like the internet.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)
👍🏻
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 11:54 AM (lF28Z)
Some lefties hire a waymo type service to intentionally cause a traffic jam outside of some conservative's house so they can't leave.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2025 11:54 AM (sKqQm)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:48 AM (Riz8t)
Yes it is expensive and time consuming.
From Waymo:
To create a map for a new location, our team starts by manually driving our sensor equipped vehicles down each street, so our custom lidar can paint a 3D picture of the new environment.
This is the point I was addressing. Sooner or later, the whole process will be automated, and when that happens, the cost should plummet. Roads and streets change a lot more slowly than computation speeds.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t)
We need more real-world accidents so we can program them into the system!
Posted by: Waymo Bangalore at December 10, 2025 11:54 AM (Y3swt)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 11:55 AM (npFr7)
Will this work in the long run? Still TBD.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:55 AM (9iyS+)
It's become much more stressful driving thanks to decline in driving standards, huge high-center-of-gravity vehicles, drugs, crowding, etc. I don't want another problem added.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2025 11:55 AM (U/Byj)
"I can live with that.
Posted by: Sponge
"Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops! Uh, depending on the breaks."
-- GEN Buck Turgidson
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 11:56 AM (cYBz/)
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*Ben Stiller Proo Tip: Do not put frank and beans intoo a Zip-Lok™ container.
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 11:56 AM (/iMjX)
I wish someone would think of the Gazan children for a change.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (jbnUc)
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"BiBi saved the children ...
But not the Gazan children."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 11:57 AM (THRXx)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:57 AM (KDPiq)
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"Tupperware is good to have, especially with the upcoming monsoon months."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (Riz8t)
Sounds like a potential franchise. Go on a trip, stop by the local robot brothel. It finds your account and sets up a partner with your preferences pre-loaded.
Posted by: NR Pax
Have it your way at McWhores!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Given Gen Z documented mating problems with a lot of male incels, I think you will see this go worldwide and probably kill Only Fans as well.
Current extreme models are costing about $125 k or so from Japan which is probably in the lead with such tech and China not far behind them.
Again, I think you are going to get some kind of attempts by the system for new laws as some women are already not happy with males having such alternatives available.
Will have some additional problems with governments concerned about falling fertility but even the old Commie/NotSee dictatorships failed at forcing people to have kids.
I can see why Musk is getting desperate to get humans off the planet for long run survival of the human race.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: t-bird at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (Y3swt)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 11:57 AM (KDPiq)
Works with Whole Foods or your local organic super market.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (9iyS+)
Ana Walshe's DNA found on hacksaw, hatchet, bloody rug, forensic scientist testifies in husband's trial
Brian, now 50, is accused of killing his wife after learning she was having an affair. Prosecutors say he believed he would have a better chance of avoiding federal prison time for his art fraud conviction if he became the sole caretaker of the pair's three children.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (L/fGl)
I wish someone would think of the Gazan children for a change.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 11:19 AM (jbnUc)
It's just incredibly hard for me to show sorrow for anything but infants in the muslham terrorist world.
https://is.gd/mBrKEU
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 11:59 AM (1zOXE)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 11:59 AM (/iMjX)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 11:59 AM (/iMjX)
Is this an African-American owned company?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:01 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 10, 2025 11:41 AM (P845J)
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Wifey insists on only owning old more mechanical vehicles as they keep threatening to mandate kill-switches (not to mention tracking your every action) in the newer computerized ones.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:01 PM (THRXx)
It's been said...but using their money to turn Gaza into the next Dubai, or at least Tel Aviv, instead of building bombs, would do FAR more for Gazan children.
But they have to love their kids more than they love revenge. And so far they don't.
Posted by: LizLem at December 10, 2025 12:01 PM (fiboQ)
That's ok- I got him with the door...
Posted by: Waymo Door Control Module at December 10, 2025 12:02 PM (Y3swt)
That's ok- I got him with the door...
Posted by: Waymo Door Control Module at December 10, 2025 12:02 PM (Y3swt)
With more states approving road kill for human consumption, this becomes a higher and higher truth probability.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 11:59 AM (/iMjX)
That's the sound the vehicles make when they collide. Wayyymo!!!
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 12:02 PM (lF28Z)
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If you have a smart phone all your actions anre already tracked. Google and the NSA already know everything you do and everywhere you go.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 12:02 PM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Archimedes
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Bot wars are probably the future of warfare and that in part is also a danger. I think the future of big Navy fleet ships is probably about done just like the time of battleships came and went.
Probably close to being done in military aviation as well. It is simply a cheaper thing to make bunches of kamikaze bots with not much done to make them survivable. Parts of Ukraine are already littered with miles of fiber optic cable used by Russkis for their latest aerial drones. Almost totally impervious to jamming and has miles of fiberoptic cable spooling out for control. So cutting fiber optic cables is the obvious next counterstep and so it goes.
War stimulates a lot of technology development in a very short and forgiving (making mistakes the rectifying them) environment.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:03 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 11:59 AM (/iMjX)
Is this an African-American owned company?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:01 PM (KDPiq)
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I'm old enough to remember Magic Johnson having a brief "color commentor" gig on National TV after he retired early.
It seemed to disappear after he was mocked for frequently saying "Mo' better" ... a great meme before memes were cool.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:04 PM (THRXx)
delightfully retro
Posted by: Don Black at December 10, 2025 12:05 PM (ZciVq)
I'm old enough to remember Magic Johnson having a brief "color commentor" gig on National TV after he retired early.
It seemed to disappear after he was mocked for frequently saying "Mo' better" ... a great meme before memes were cool.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:04 PM (THRXx)
Wasn't "The Magic Show" or some such on the air where they had him in an Arsenio Hall type role?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Tank Abrams at December 10, 2025 12:06 PM (r6f6k)
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Directed Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) FTW!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:06 PM (THRXx)
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we say 'bigly' now
Posted by: Don Black at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (ZciVq)
Maher is a toolbag and I can only handle him in small doses. But I liked that he hit her on the Israel/ Gaza differences and didn't let up. Asked her of all the countries in the Middle East she could live in if forced to move there, wearing her cute tight dresses and makeup, which one would she live in?
She couldn't say Israel, even though that's the only country she won't be stoned and raped in for
Dressing like a dhimmi western whore. And he wouldn't let her just slide away from the question, even though she clearly kept deflecting.
Posted by: LizLem at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (xS7Ad)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
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That's Supperware, silly.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (DRSnL)
‘ But they have to love their kids more than they love revenge. And so far they don't.’
You would think that they’re demonstrate contempt for their own children would permanently discredit them with the people that scold on their behalf but you would be wrong.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 10, 2025 11:26 AM (9iyS+)
But no hoverboards...
Posted by: LizLem at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (xS7Ad)
At the same time...do we want machines able to "reprogram" themselves to handle situations like that? At a minimum, the humans doing the programming, if they didn't should have had, some way for the cars to communicate back home saying a problem had occurred that was beyond it's programmed parameters to handle. Sorta the SNAFU/FUBAR protocol...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)
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That's Supperware, silly.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (DRSnL)
Tuckerware is what trannies use whilst transitioning...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
Ana Walshe's DNA found on hacksaw, hatchet, bloody rug, forensic scientist testifies in husband's trial
Brian, now 50, is accused of killing his wife after learning she was having an affair. Prosecutors say he believed he would have a better chance of avoiding federal prison time for his art fraud conviction if he became the sole caretaker of the pair's three children.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (L/fGl)
Well, at least he's avoiding divorce drama?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 10, 2025 12:09 PM (xcxpd)
At the same time...do we want machines able to "reprogram" themselves to handle situations like that? At a minimum, the humans doing the programming, if they didn't should have had, some way for the cars to communicate back home saying a problem had occurred that was beyond it's programmed parameters to handle. Sorta the SNAFU/FUBAR protocol...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
A Roomba can get out of those situations. I think there has to have been an issue other than programming.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:10 PM (KDPiq)
That's Supperware, silly.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (DRSnL)
You got me.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)
Pretty much, except for transportation. For the price of a 6th gen fighter and pilot costs, one could build a huge fleet (flock?) of remote control drones.
Quantity does have its own quality...
Posted by: man at December 10, 2025 12:10 PM (XuXeR)
Probably close to being done in military aviation as well. It is simply a cheaper thing to make bunches of kamikaze bots with not much done to make them survivable.
Agree with both observations. We're probably in what will be our last generation of fighter aviators - possibly excepting the Loyal Wingman scenario.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t)
To create a map for a new location, our team starts by manually driving our sensor equipped vehicles down each street, so our custom lidar can paint a 3D picture of the new environment.
This is the point I was addressing. Sooner or later, the whole process will be automated, and when that happens, the cost should plummet. Roads and streets change a lot more slowly than computation speeds.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Now add in potholes, fallen trees, emergency services, wrecks, and weather into the mix. There will always be failures just like with humans. But I doubt juries will be as forgiving with Big Waymo Corp than with Ms. Betty Boop who can cry on cue on the stand.
We accept human fallibility. I don't think we accept machines failing nearly as much. Remember the whole surge in acceleration bit which was probably mostly caused by drivers somehow hitting the accelerator when they meant to hit the brakes. Lots of lawsuits and big payouts from teh suits. Often cheaper to settle than risk a trial as well.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:12 PM (WDjG6)
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A Roomba can get out of those situations. I think there has to have been an issue other than programming.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:10 PM (KDPiq)
Is there a way for the cars to communicate back to the company's centers? There are always cases that fall under the "unknown unknowns", but erring on the side of contacting humans in the communications chain can alleviate some of that.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:12 PM (ynpvh)
Killing the two children is the height of evil.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:12 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Operator Error at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (FYrUD)
Posted by: the way I see it
>Doesn't a Roomba crash its way out of that situation?
Bing! Bang! Pow!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (1zOXE)
Posted by: man at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (XuXeR)
When I went searching for a truck to replace the '95 S-10, the problem was finding one with a manual transmission. One person asked me why I wanted a manual transmission, my reply was that I am a 'driver', not an 'operator'.
When someone is visiting town, and we set out for some local spot in their car, their use of GPS drives me nutty, as I point out better routes to the destination. I find myself, out loud, contradicting the 'instructions'. 'No, don't turn left in 600 feet'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (XeU6L)
I suspect they're programmed to just stay there if an accident occurs since fleeing the scene of an accident is a felony in most (all?) states. (Unless you're an illegal and it's a blue state, of course).
Posted by: Ian S. at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Sponge
Tennessee says - way ahead of you there. All you have to do is notify TWRA or any law enforcement officer within 48 hours of taking possession of the deer. They don't last too long around here unless the carcass is absolutely destroyed by the accident.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (cYBz/)
Sort of like the grocery store people who stand in the self check-out area to deal with the inevitable problems.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 12:14 PM (/iMjX)
Probably close to being done in military aviation as well. It is simply a cheaper thing to make bunches of kamikaze bots with not much done to make them survivable.
Agree with both observations. We're probably in what will be our last generation of fighter aviators - possibly excepting the Loyal Wingman scenario.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 12:11 PM (Riz8t)
Could the successful bombing of the Iranian nuke site have been done without a pilot?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:14 PM (KDPiq)
Almost certainly, IMHO.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 12:15 PM (Riz8t)
Audi won every lawsuit. But lost in the court of public opinion...
Posted by: man at December 10, 2025 12:15 PM (XuXeR)
Quantity does have its own quality...
Posted by: man
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Training is easier too for warbots, develop it for one, it is now done for the whole fleet. Faster too to retrain. Obviously not true for humans.
In some sense, the battles will shift to rival hackers, and software/hardware developers prior to any conflict and getting inside each other's OODA loops during actual combat.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:15 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 12:14 PM (/iMjX)
A bull seal?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:15 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 10, 2025 11:24 AM (EXyHK)
Which is inefficient as Hell. Cars burning all that fuel (or battery juice), and moving ZERO people. Happens all the time with cabs and public transit, too. At least private cars are carrying one person or more, all the time they are using fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2025 12:15 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Don Black at December 10, 2025 12:07 PM (ZciVq)
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Funny. I watched a Pat McAfee podcast segment recently (about the possibility of Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray playing MLB -- after learning that he's the only individual to have been drafted in the Top 10 in both the NFL and MLB) and have since heard on sports talk radio:
Using the word "ass" to refer to something as awful or derogatory. Ugh.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:16 PM (THRXx)
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We accept human fallibility. I don't think we accept machines failing nearly as much. Remember the whole surge in acceleration bit which was probably mostly caused by drivers somehow hitting the accelerator when they meant to hit the brakes. Lots of lawsuits and big payouts from teh suits. Often cheaper to settle than risk a trial as well.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:12 PM (WDjG6)
A chainsaw that gets and error and can't be turned off and chops off someone's hand is a bad thing. Ultimately, these vehicles are programmed by humans (directly or indirectly via "learning") and the ultimate fault lies with humans. Machines tend to be more robust than humans and are harder to stop, so we expect higher and more stable guardrails.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:16 PM (ynpvh)
Um, never mind.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 10, 2025 12:16 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: the way I see it
>Doesn't a Roomba crash its way out of that situation?
Bing! Bang! Pow!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 12:13 PM (1zOXE)
Did Bruce Wayne program them?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:17 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:12 PM (WDjG6)
If I were Toyota, I would have gone after the media (at the very least) to get recompense from that sorry episode. It cost them billions to settle, unnecessarily.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 10, 2025 12:18 PM (0CU3H)
The hazard there is that the by-far-largest maker of drones, DJI, is owned by the Chinese Communist Party.
I saw some reps from a US startup on Fox the other day. They're looking to manufacture drones domestically. CNN would say it's for Pete Hegseth to blow up shipwrecked mariners (he's gonna settle Ginger vs. Mary Ann once and for all).
Posted by: Ian S. at December 10, 2025 12:18 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Hunter Biden, Waymo Sex Pest at December 10, 2025 12:18 PM (bC9HI)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 10, 2025 12:18 PM (DY7Xb)
Not here in New Orleans. Someone, perhaps multiple persons, will claim injury and off to court they will go. Tort law is a major industry down here.
Posted by: Javems at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (8I4hW)
Wasn't that Audi? Did Toyota also have such a problem?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 10, 2025 12:18 PM (DY7Xb)
Idiocracy?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
And this was with an off-shelf basic design, a "design risk" move that ..... failed. NAVSEA could eff up even an existing successful design from Europe.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (U/Byj)
Posted by: man at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: the way I see it
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If not, I am sure DARPA is probably planning on just that. Mainly bots don't have command of the large premier bomb delivery platforms (and fighters fwiw) yet in the Air Force probably due substantially to the organization being run by pilots.
Same as the Navy resistance to bot or nearly bot ships with few if any humans aboard--it is run by ship wranglers.
The issue though like before WWII with aviation or tanks, a military has to consider the new technology fully in order to employ it or risk losing a war because the peer enemy is now ahead of you.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (WDjG6)
Johanny B Gute!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant
Blue Suede Schubert
https://youtu.be/mnjlbbWWxO4
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (pkeXY)
Did she get rid of it when she started dating you because she didn’t need it anymore?
Posted by: Dr. Claw
Embrace the power of AND
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (w9Wax)
Posted by: thug dolphin at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (EyfuW)
https://tinyurl.com/567834ad
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (Nx5jP)
The hazard there is that the by-far-largest maker of drones, DJI, is owned by the Chinese Communist Party.
That doesn't solve the problem that if large drone fleets are more capable, it doesn't matter if we can still build manned planes.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Proably. But the issue as I see it is that machine (really, in this case, software) is not capable of reasoning...it just isn't. If 'progress' is made on that point, then the machine will become sentient, and there will be no way of constraining its actions.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (XeU6L)
Ana Walshe's DNA found on hacksaw, hatchet, bloody rug, forensic scientist testifies in husband's trial
Brian, now 50, is accused of killing his wife after learning she was having an affair. Prosecutors say he believed he would have a better chance of avoiding federal prison time for his art fraud conviction if he became the sole caretaker of the pair's three children.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 10, 2025 11:58 AM (L/fGl)
And, ironically enough, he was correct.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (0CU3H)
Posted by: British Roboshrink at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (BI5O2)
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Sports, especially football, are always coming up with new jargon
football has 'explosives' now
and the booth guys are talking in acronyms
YAC
DPI
TFL
Posted by: Don Black at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (ZciVq)
Posted by: man at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2025 12:21 PM (RHGPo)
Not here in New Orleans. Someone, perhaps multiple persons, will claim injury and off to court they will go. Tort law is a major industry down here.
Posted by: Javems at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (8I4hW)
There are whole scams out there of people driving in front of other cars and hitting the brakes just to get rear-ended. Unless you have a dash cam to record the entire thing (or witnesses--but who'll have witnesses from other vehicles?), the presumption is that YOU rear-ended the other guy due to YOUR lack of attention driving...of course the perps will demand large settlements for "injuries" using "doctors" involved in the scam...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:21 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant
Blue Suede Schubert
https://youtu.be/mnjlbbWWxO4
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (pkeXY)
Blue Rondo à la Turk
https://youtu.be/vKNZqM0d-xo
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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You know who else liked a nice tight seal?
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 12:14 PM (/iMjX)
this is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Pete B. at December 10, 2025 12:22 PM (0CU3H)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2025 12:22 PM (rZCVI)
No, not that Batman.
Dr. Shellac Batman
Posted by: thug dolphin at December 10, 2025 12:19 PM (EyfuW)
I knew a man with the last name of Jetson...I never got to ask if he had a son named George...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:23 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 12:14 PM (/iMjX)
this is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Pete B. "
I thought it was Penguin Pete.
Posted by: fd at December 10, 2025 12:23 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 10, 2025 12:18 PM (DY7Xb)
Idiocracy?
Posted by: jim
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1984, sprinkled with technology that Orwell could not imagine.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 10, 2025 12:23 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2025 12:22 PM (rZCVI)
Dems want car-less drivers in Kalifornia...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:23 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Hunter Biden, Waymo Sex Pest
>This is the future. Imagine getting into the passenger seat only to find a dozen loads clinging to the console. Will the "autonomous" EV notice that somebody is blowing his wad? Who cleans it?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 12:24 PM (1zOXE)
and the booth guys are talking in acronyms
YAC
DPI
TFL
Posted by: Don Black at December 10, 2025 12:20 PM (ZciVq)
Little do they know how many of the 'swifties' they're turning away from the sport with this......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Hunter Biden, Waymo Sex Pest
>This is the future. Imagine getting into the passenger seat only to find a dozen loads clinging to the console. Will the "autonomous" EV notice that somebody is blowing his wad? Who cleans it?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 10, 2025 12:24 PM (1zOXE)
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:24 PM (ynpvh)
Packs of illegals carrying sedan chair with prominent Democrats.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 10, 2025 12:24 PM (2ocoG)
I knew a man with the last name of Jetson...I never got to ask if he had a son named George...
Posted by: jim
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I knew a fellow in Raleigh named Joseph Blow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 10, 2025 12:25 PM (XeU6L)
Um, never mind.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Ever read Killdozer by Ted Sturgeon and later made into a bad tv movie? Short story is better, includes ancient aliens.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:25 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Sorry .Do Dems want anything positive in the state of California or anywhere else?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2025 12:25 PM (rZCVI)
Posted by: muldoon at December 10, 2025 12:14 PM (/iMjX)
That fag who was getting pranged by that smelly Euro on the desk of some congress critter?
Posted by: Yes Harder Please at December 10, 2025 12:26 PM (bC9HI)
My fake brake gets a work out with some of the ladies I’ve rode with.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:26 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Bulg at December 10, 2025 12:26 PM (/+P99)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Is that like the sport of curling?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:26 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
The easy, short and correct answer is 'no'. Whatever is good, moral or decent they want nothing to do with.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (snZF9)
Sorry .Do Dems want anything positive in the state of California or anywhere else?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2025 12:25 PM (rZCVI)
Not really.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (ynpvh)
I knew a man with the last name of Jetson...I never got to ask if he had a son named George...
Posted by: jim
His boy Elroy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Ian S. at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (lF28Z)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 10, 2025 12:28 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 12:28 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Sponge
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ACE AI model is programmed for late starts. Unpredictably predictable on posting times was the goal. Plus the random busty lesbian post.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:28 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (lF28Z)
Like a safe in a Loony Tunes cartoon...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:29 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:15 PM (WDjG6)
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"Speedrunning" in video games has just taken on a whole new context...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 10, 2025 12:29 PM (RnixX)
Posted by: jim
His boy Elroy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 10, 2025 12:27 PM (pkeXY)
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In the future all-black-and-gay-lisping Broadway play, the dog will be named "Afro."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:29 PM (THRXx)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 10, 2025 12:29 PM (w9Wax)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2025 12:29 PM (+Oyis)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 10, 2025 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
No, not that one. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at December 10, 2025 12:28 PM (cYBz/)
She is very pretty but with that strong jaw line , I always thought she could pass for a tranny. A very pretty tranny but still.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 10, 2025 12:30 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Sponge
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ACE AI model is programmed for late starts. Unpredictably predictable on posting times was the goal. Plus the random busty lesbian post.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:28 PM (WDjG6)
It identifies as a furry Endorian moon dweller.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 10, 2025 12:30 PM (ynpvh)
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They have a hard time parallel parking but they are really good at backing up. Two thumbs up!
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 10, 2025 12:30 PM (Wg6v7)
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It's times like these where I always hope he's got a new girlfriend instead of insomnia.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant at December 10, 2025 12:31 PM (THRXx)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Consider Orson Card's Ender's Game as a guide to future training for warriors in cyberspace. And yes, gaming has all sorts of implications about future wars and preparing for them.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:31 PM (WDjG6)
The easy, short and correct answer is 'no'. Whatever is good, moral or decent they want nothing to do with.
Posted by: Tonypete
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It's worse than that, they 'want' those things (see Morning Report comments re “toxic empathy,”
and the only way to address (in their psyches) the issues is by seizing control of society, by any means.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 10, 2025 12:33 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: jim
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Well, apparently from script leaks of teh original, the Emperor wanted to destroy Endor in Revenge of the Jedi to enrage Luke so as to facilitate his Dark side of the Force progression.
Ace would be hardest hit along with ACE AI.
Posted by: whig at December 10, 2025 12:33 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2025 12:54 PM (RHGPo)
They never explained how evil old Biff returned to the same future that he left after delivering the goods to young Biff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 10, 2025 11:21 AM (dyewR)
The guys on The Big Theory attempted to blackboard that entire "problem" and ended up even more confused. LOL! That was a funny episode.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 10, 2025 01:15 PM (5xuJ/)
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