What is an "influencer" these days?

Tiny Moldova may be the second-poorest country in Europe (Britannica) but they have fast internet speeds, a wine industry, and a strong drink museum.

And "influencers", apparently. More on that below, along with some other examples of "influencers". Culture and politics have always involved influencing people. Why, today, do we think in terms of "influencers"?

Influencer Studios International

Walter Kirn, commenting on Nick Fuentes:

Told you.
Just another products of Influencer Studios Int'l.

Colin Wright:

A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.
According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.

Details below:

🚨BREAKING: A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.

According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign… pic.twitter.com/eLCff8y1hG
— Colin Wright (@SwipeWright) December 8, 2025

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Influencing Politics and Culture in Moldova

Interesting conversation centered on little Moldova, a country of fewer than two and a half million people (according to Britannica), blessed with good soils and rivers (one named after a drowned hunting dog). Agriculture and a lot of other things were messed up during the Soviet era.

My first instinct when I see a politically-motivated arrest in a country is to see if USAID has set up a "Rule of Law" program there to capture its judges and prosecutors, and so far my instinct has never been wrong https://t.co/ut24inPfv5 pic.twitter.com/ZnjReysynO
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) December 8, 2025

Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else? I kind of hate that word.

I imagine that a little money does go a long way in Moldova.

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Was Lenin an "Influencer"?

Can we think of some better words?

Why Lenin Won

The Red Wheel
by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Reviewed by Gary Saul Morson

A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.

April 1917, Book 1, the seventh of eight novels in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s story of the Russian Revolution, entitled The Red Wheel, portrays three crucial weeks that show why Lenin, with only a handful of followers, triumphed over his rivals. As the novel opens, Tsar Nicholas II has abdicated, and a Provisional Government appointed by the Duma has assumed nominal power. Everything it does must be approved by the Executive Committee (EC) of the Petrograd Soviet (or Council), a group of self-appointed intellectual representatives of the lower classes who can summon intimidating mobs.
Meanwhile, the Russian army, still at war with Imperial Germany, is disintegrating, in part because the Soviet has issued orders eliminating all discipline. Notwithstanding the impossibility of doing so, the Provisional Government, to honor Russia’s alliance with France and Britain, has promised an offensive. Solzhenitsyn portrays the Provisional Government ministers as hopelessly impractical poseurs, who rely on stirring words and dramatic gestures. He quotes a Russian proverb: “A fine gait won’t help a lame chicken.”
Why is the Provisional Government so helpless? . . .

Well, there is not one simple reason, but:

Reasoning that free people don’t require force, the Provisional Government, believe it or not, abolished the police! It also released criminals on condition that they promise to behave, and so initiated a wave of murders and robberies. “Some ask: How do you govern the country?, You don’t even have any police,” Minister of Justice Aleksandr Kerensky paraphrases the obvious question. “But, comrades, we have no need of police, because the people are with us!”
With no means of enforcement, the Provisional Government had to implore people to pay their taxes. Nobody did. Solzhenitsyn quoted one appeal after another—soldiers, don’t desert! sailors, refrain from killing your officers! peasants, please do not seize land!—but the utter failure of rule by uplifting speeches and empty reports only leads to more speeches and more reports. “We have decided to take the most stringent measures,” one minister explains. “I shall appoint a committee of inquiry.”
When the patriotic general Lavr Kornilov at last offers to put his loyal soldiers at the government’s disposal, it reacts with horror. Even while a mob was besieging the unprotected ministers, one of them proudly declares: “No! Even if armed men were to find their way into this room, we should not apply military force to defend ourselves!” Another finds still finer words: “We’d rather sacrifice our own lives than spill a single drop of others’ blood!”
Most pathetic of all is the kindly Prime Minister, Prince Georgi Lvov, who attributes the prevailing chaos “to a single cause. The impossibility of meeting everyone personally, meeting their eyes with a kindly smile.” Using “the quietest of voices … and with one of his most bewitching smiles,” he asks: “Why the drama? Why make relations worse? … Everything will come right in the end.” When it becomes apparent that Lenin’s followers, who have already shot unarmed soldiers, plan to seize power by force, Lvov explains in “dulcet tones” to Minister of Defense Aleksandr Guchkov: “Where Lenin was concerned, the government should not precipitate events, for that might give rise to conflict.”

Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.

Beyond Counter-Ideology
Gary Saul Morson
Dostoevsky understood that people who defined themselves by ideology were capable of a unique form of evil.

Do today's Marxist college professors like being called "influencers"?

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Ideological influences on America

A well-written essay by Michael Smith to consider this weekend. Read the whole thing at the link.

The Entitlement Machine

Don't stop at the Fantasy Football Analogy

How modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.

Republicans need to recognize that they will always start any election, contest or debate from behind the sticks. It will always be first and fifteen because Democrats have a built-in advantage in elections.
Their policies cater to the worst in human nature. They reward the short term, punish the prudent, and erode the cultural preconditions of a functioning republic: responsibility, restraint, and reciprocity. Policies that indulge negative traits may feel humane in the moment but generate long-term civic fragility—and while the consequences may not be immediate, they are unavoidable.

We can debate whether it is fair or foul to have a federal income tax—and one so steeply progressive that 47 percent of income-earning Americans carry no income-tax liability. But the consequences of such a system are no longer theoretical. When nearly half the population contributes nothing to the cost of federal activity, the incentives shift in ways economists have long understood. People behave differently when they bear no financial stake in the outcomes they support. This is moral hazard dressed up as compassionate governance. . . .

Progressive policy design increasingly caters to four deeply rooted but negative human tendencies: dependency, risk displacement, infantilization, and grievance incentives. These traits are not partisan inventions—they are part of human nature. The divide exists because one side has learned to weaponize them.
Consider the latest fights over health-care subsidies. During COVID, Democrats enacted temporarily enhanced Obamacare subsidies, sold as emergency measures. But once installed, they immediately triggered predictable behavioral dynamics. What critics call “government generosity,” the public experiences as an upgrade in lifestyle. When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.
This is the cycle of hedonic adaptation—people normalize benefits almost instantly—and loss aversion, the principle that losses loom larger than equivalent gains. Withdraw something that was never permanent, and the emotional response is sharper than the pleasure felt when it arrived. These tendencies feed entitlement, the belief that a conditional benefit has become an irrevocable right. The envy that follows—resentment toward anyone perceived to have “more”—becomes political jet fuel.

Of course, during the period of subsidies, health care costs also creep up, making the loss of subsidies scary for lots of folks.

But subsidies are only the surface expression of a deeper architecture of dependency. When government benefits become the central organizing principle of economic life, personal agency contracts. Systems designed to help people end up trapping them, not through malice but through structure: welfare cliffs that punish earnings, housing programs that penalize marriage, college-aid formulas that reward borrowing rather than saving. A constituency stabilized by reliance reliably votes to preserve the system that sustains it.
Layered atop dependency is risk displacement. As the state assumes responsibility for ever more dimensions of life—health care, debt burdens, housing, childcare—individuals rationally outsource decision-making to government. . .

Have the Repulicans got any better ideas?

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Music

Sydney Opera House

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, December 6, Why THIS Story NOW?

Related, h/t J.J. Sefton: To save America, support the American Revolution

Amy Comey Barrett's book, Listening to the Law. 14:30 on the video.

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:14 AM

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1 What is an "influencer" these days?

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Kt19C)

2 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Ia/+0)

3 Oh noes, you might have got me interested back into the Russian Revolution

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (Ia/+0)

4
Aren't we all influencers? We just don't get paid, lol.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (3ek7K)

5 >>>Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else?

Paid shills works for me.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo)

6 I wanted to say something in response to the periodic eruptions of anger revolving around the use of the word "Boomer" here on AoS. I know I can do nothing about actual trolls or people who simply do not want to mature, but if I can help some people, all the better.

First, it is certainly true that Baby Boomers get blamed for things that happened because of other generations. The G.I. Generation, far from being 'great', was credulous and disinterested in cherishing the amazing position it had been gifted by our victory in WW2. Many people in that generation simply wanted to get more out of Social Security than they paid in, as they approached retirement. Many of the worst Congress Critters were and are Silent Gen, like Nancy Pelosi. My generation (Millennials) and Zoomers have lots of lost people who fall into weird traps and trends. Boomers aren't furries or trannies or "Queers for Palestine". Based on this blog, Gen Xers are mostly alright but enjoy bitching and whining too much. Younger people should remember that their generations have not reversed the trends they inherited, and show a little more leniency for older posters on this blog. We all fall short.

Continued

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (UdiE9)

7 Probably AI taking over

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (Ia/+0)

8 2/3
However, there is a strong theme in the Bible that nations and generations are judged for their sins as individuals are. Prophets pray for the Lord to avert his anger at Israel as a nation, even though the prophet himself did not partake in the relevant sins. If Clarence Thomas posted here, I doubt he would sperg out if someone posted a complaint about black crime rates or single-parent families. The ladies here do not have conniption fits when someone (perhaps jokingly?) talks about repealing the 19th Amendment. They rightly note that they and many ladies they know are not AWFLs or karens, but they also admit the truth that if women voted the way men do, the Democrats would be a tiny minority party.

Continued

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (UdiE9)

9
OT.

Got the sprinkler system winterized. Come spring time, I'll have to dig out the drain valve and replace it as the handle broke in half just as I made the last turn to open it. Now it's broken in the open position. Also need to dig out and replace a zone control valve as the pre-shutdown inspection exposed a cracked body that was leaking.

Now off to read K.T.'s content.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (QVmho)

10 3/3
Those of us who are younger can see the photos of what America looked like when Boomers were in school. If we're a bit older as I am (I just miss the cut-off for Gen X) we remember G.I. Generation members who were founts of wisdom in old age, even if that generation was not what some make it out to be. Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers". If the person isn't just a troll (and they exist), younger people who feel like everything has gone to shit resent the geezers clinging on to what they have and offering nothing of value in return. For most of human history the elderly were revered, because they had wisdom to impart. I know wisdom exists. I often don't read through comments, but CTRL+F for commenters who impart what I regard as wisdom (Whig is my favorite commenter to follow). Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (UdiE9)

11 Hey, remember newspapers? Remember wire services? Remember television? Movies? Music? Celebrity culture?

The problem a lot of people have today, with "influencers," is that those who influence are no longer concentrated among the Oligarchy of Corporate Media.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (WF5qu)

12 We set the standard for "influencers". Who knew how ahead of the curve we were?

Posted by: Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)

13 And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.

He's trolling you, and your kids love it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu)

14 I have some experience with Moldavians. The law abiding ones used to fish for northern pike minnows (aka squawfish), as they had a bounty on them. Made pretty good money at it. We let them tie up on our dock. Really entertaining to introduce them to the state DNR folks, when they came to support us in trying to keep the dock.

The not lawabiding ones wanted to be gangsters. Had one go on a rampage, claiming that he owned our property. The guy with him noticed my gun and convinced his friend to leave. We mentioned this to the lawabiding guys, who sic'ed Mama on him. Never had any issue with them again. It was an interesting time and I hope the good guys are doing all right. I suspect they are.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (+mUZM)

15 Moldova?

Dolores!!!

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX)

16 Moldova is a bit bigger than Massachusetts

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (Ia/+0)

17 Moldova?

Dolores!!!
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX)

Helen Hunt?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (WF5qu)

18 How modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.
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The first of the three isn't at all unique to them. You see outrage everywhere including here. While it's been common at all times, I do think it's rising, to late 60s levels.

I have no cure, at least, no secular one.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (s0JqF)

19 > What is an "influencer" these days?
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Operative question:

"Who pays the "influencers" these days?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

20 According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.

One can test this theorem in person.

If you have 20 and 30-something males in your daily life, be it work, family or church, ask them who Nick Fuentes is. Then ask them who Joe Gruters is.

I think you'll find Nick's name recognition is astronomically higher, and that it isn't all bot farms.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2NGiN)

21 The Apostle Paul wrote some letters. He has influenced the lives of billions and still does so today.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2Ez/1)

22
Multiple US service members injured in Syria ambush attack.

FoxNews

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (3ek7K)

23 So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.

This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit.

But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (9iyS+)

24 "Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

Your children do.

Well, you do, if you buy your kids' cell phones.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (WF5qu)

25 Maryland is closest to Moldova in size

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (Ia/+0)

26 15 Moldova?

Dolores!!!
Posted by: muldoon

I met the real "Mulva" at a party in Duluth, Georgia 20 or so years ago. Seemed like a nice lady.

Posted by: Brush With Greatness at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (oftw2)

27 Thx K.T.
Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw)

28 Dave Horowitz ‘splains a lot of the revolutionary marxist ideas and theory in his book “Radical Son”; some of it I was vaguely familiar with, but a fair amount was not. They definitely get way off into the weeds in lots of areas.

What really surprised me is how so much of it has clearly been mainstreamed and incorporated into the every day atrocities perpetrated on Americans today, the rhetoric and invective, public policy, the Narrative particularly academia and elementary public schools and of course the “news” was captured by the whack jobs long ago.

This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (eFKVH)

29 Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw)

Ever heard of the Federalist Papers?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:32 AM (WF5qu)

30 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?

I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH)

31 This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat
Posted by: Common Tater

Just say when!

Posted by: Follow The Fleet at December 13, 2025 11:34 AM (oftw2)

32
Tater,

I have the same question.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (3ek7K)

33 Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM

I have a FB friend who post emotional content from a site that proudly proclaims upfront that they are in "North Macedonia". Often exaggerations of content from other sites. For example, not only does a mother abandon her five year old twin daughters for the bright lights before returning for them when they are eighteen, she abandons them when they are blind newborns and their dad teaches them to sew award-winning costumes in their "own little world".

Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (7vIsy)

34 You lost me at "strong drink museum."

Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (2WIwB)

35 Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)

36 Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+)

37 @29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw)

38 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz8)

39 A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.

The amazing thing about Saint Petersburg is that the historic parts of the city are almost completely unchanged, so you can walk around and see all the places where the key events in the Russian Revolution took place.

Sergey Larenkov came up with a technique (since copied by others) of using a World War II picture taken in Leningrad, taking a picture of modern-day Saint Petersburg from the same location, and combining the two.

The results are often quite moving.

Posted by: Blackadder! at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (xTIDn)

40
Eromero,

I agree with you.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (3ek7K)

41 Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Totally not fair!

Posted by: Man Formerly In The Middle at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (oftw2)

42 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?

I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH)

Where don't we have troops?

But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)

43 Outfits like NCRI are also convinced that Russia stole the 2016 election with Facebook posts.

Lol

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:39 AM (9iyS+)

44 42 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?

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Something about fighting them there not here. Or wait no it’s to do contain communism. Wait no it’s to spread freedom and democracy. Yeah that’s the one.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (9iyS+)

45 A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.

It's amazing that Solzhenitsyn has been dead for seventeen years, and there are still major works of his that have not been translated into English.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (xTIDn)

46 37 @29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw)

Me too, but the point being, influencers are not a new thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (WF5qu)

47 Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.

1) Europe
2) GOPe

Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (Riz8t)

48 Is this about us?

Posted by: Vacuous hot chicks at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (2Ez/1)

49
But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)

Ironically, had the US not poked its nose in every country’s business Nick Fuentes would not be a thing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:42 AM (9iyS+)

50 What's an NCRI?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)

51 >> Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+)
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In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ)

52 I do remember when Hardees (Carl's Jr) came out with an ad, featuring a chick eating one of their big fat cheeseburgers.

Lots of people were harumphing at that, as it was an obvious attempt by them to poke fun at the idea of hot chicks influencing people to buy stuff.

My problem with it though, is I didn't believe for a second that chick ever ate a big fat Hardees cheeseburger before in her life.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (WF5qu)

53 Only new thing about influencer is the name influencer. They’re just famous people who get paid to say or write things. It’s been happening since forever.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+)

54 Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers".

It is important to remember that the media amplifies the voices of those with whom they agree. Thus, you can turn on the "news" and see lots of desiccated boomers "protesting" something which, to the average person, makes no sense. Just as during Vietnam, these people are actually a much smaller part of the Boomer cohort than they might seem.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

55 What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)

It’s in this post. The group that says Nick Fuentes is all astroturf.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+)

56 What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)

Nambla Communists of Rhode Island?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (WF5qu)

57 "Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but..."

Hey. We're sitting right here.

Posted by: Relief Factor, Goldline and Food Insurance at December 13, 2025 11:46 AM (2Ez/1)

58 What is an "influencer" these days?"

Hmm. There was a time when payola was a bad thing...

Guess that's over.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:47 AM (XuXeR)

59 In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ)

I didn't think anyone really believed that. I thought it was just a dig at him, because he doesn't support wars in the Middle East.

He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu)

60 Moldova has a 2 year “digital nomad” visa. Anyone who has a job they can work remotely can live there for 2 years. For us Yanks, there’s not much benefit other than the experience. But for the rest of the world they can live there essentially tax free. The US is one of the few countries that taxes income earned by its citizens even when they live abroad.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (9iyS+)

61 I love how anyone who has a different opinion than “the narrative” has to be paid by some nefarious groups. Here’s a crazy idea. Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money .

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (9iyS+)

62 What's an NCRI?"

National Cash Register Incorporated...

Heh

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (XuXeR)

63 What's an NCRI?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)

It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.

It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on.

Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN)

64 Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money.

Yeah, that's why Tucker is buying a house in Qatar - because he likes the climate.

Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (xTIDn)

65 It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.

It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on.

Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN)

I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)

66 NCRI obviously never heard of the Steisand effect. Neither have any of the boomers pissing their pants about him.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (9iyS+)

67 > What's an NCRI?
----------
From their X account:

Network Contagion Research Institute

@ncri_io
NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)

68 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)

I will say, I bet it's not Moldova.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (WF5qu)

69 Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)

70 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)

See my post 23.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

71 > Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
----------
They gifted the US President a fucking airplane.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (NwnyJ)

72 A quarter of Moldova has declared itself independent, the so called TransDneister Republic. It has a slight Russian plurality in population . If the Ukraine - Russian war continues and the Russians head for Odessa it's believed that they will try and link up. Who'll be the influencers then?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (D+mpw)

73 Network Contagion Research Institute

@ncri_io
NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)

Sounds EXACTLY like the Biden Admin's attempt to set up a government agency to weed out misinformation and disinformation.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (WF5qu)

74 Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."

Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right"

Tiresome.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (XuXeR)

75 The movie Red (with Bruce Willis) has a humorous reference to Moldova at the end… IIRC the sequel Red 2 has it’s opening scene in Moldova, with bombs raining down on our protagonists… that’s all I know about Moldova

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (xT8gx)

76 NCRI was started in part by a “Republican” who left the party because it wasn’t pro-gay enough. Lynne Cheney is involved with it. It’s run out of Princeton. It focuses on exposing “misinformation” like oh I dunno anti-vax stuff.

But ok let’s believe what they say. lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:56 AM (9iyS+)

77 See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

Lynn Cheney, eh?

Well yeah, she would have been on the list.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu)

78 What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask

---
Twenty bucks. Same as in town.

Posted by: It's like I don't even know you people anymore at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (2Ez/1)

79 See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

Lynn Cheney, eh?

Well yeah, she would have been on the list.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu)

Oh, Lynne, not Liz.

Same rotten fruit from the same rotten tree.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (WF5qu)

80 Interesting that the AoS's two main contrarian schticks show up in the same thread at the same time.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (Y1sOo)

81 It’s honesty rather sad that the right which is always skeptical about any “non profit” (as it is should be) jumped on this Nick Fuentes NCRI thing without any skepticism.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (9iyS+)

82 "I have been criticized as being a tool of Qatar, and I just want to say – which you already know – which is I have never taken anything from your country and don’t plan to,” Carlson told the PM.

"I am, however, tomorrow buying a place in Qatar. I like the city, I think it’s beautiful, but also to make a statement that I’m an American and a free man and I’ll be wherever I want to be. I have not taken any money from Qatar, but I have now given money to Qatar.”

He's mocking your Qatar, Qatar, Qatar! narrative.

After all, it's not as if they gave him a luxury jet.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (2NGiN)

83 Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread.

Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (pcnhy)

84 Rhymes with a female body part.

Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (2Ez/1)

85 that’s all I know about Moldova"

Those "eastern European" areas always seemed to be quite tribal, with family/ tribe branches reaching back and forth across the "borders"... supporting these artificial nation states inevitably leads to further conflict...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (XuXeR)

86 Did I say Lynne? Fuck.

I meant Liz.

Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them.

Ok really trustworthy source right?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+)

87 Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread"

Yikes. But these people are of incredible influence. Or something.

Or not.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (XuXeR)

88 Did I say Lynne? Fuck.

I meant Liz.

Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them.

Ok really trustworthy source right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+)

Is Lynne the gay one? I don't remember. Might be the old coot's wife.

Regardless. The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (WF5qu)

89 Lynne is Dick’s widow and the mother of Liz.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:04 PM (9iyS+)

90 . The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance."

They followed the Bush family lead...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (XuXeR)

91 Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw)

92 Would not shock me if a few tens of millions in USAid money was funneled to ncri as well. If the Cheneys are involved you know there is govt money flowing to it somehow.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (9iyS+)

93 Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."

Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right"

Tiresome.

Posted by: man

*sotto voce*
no wait, come back...

Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

94 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.

I will say, I bet it's not Moldova.

The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN)

95 *sotto voce*
no wait, come back...
Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

Where ya goin'? I was going to make espresso!

Posted by: Blind guy at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (5xuJ/)

96 *sotto voce*
no wait, come back.."

I'm here. That was dr chop...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)

97 Here is the dog Dee of the “neutral” ncri lol. So so neutral guys.

—

starts in 2016 at Princeton University, where Finkelstein was pursuing a doctorate in neuroscience psychology. The son of a rabbi, he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind.

Then the world intervened.

Finkelstein started noticing that a growing number of his friends, from both ends of the political spectrum, “were going crazy,” as he put it. “Intelligent, reasonable people who I respected … were suddenly embracing hateful identity politics. They were becoming really exclusionary.”

It was not an isolated fluke, he thought, it was happening at a time when the sociopolitical climate in America and beyond was in dramatic upheaval. “I started thinking about it: Trump had just won the presidency. Brexit had just passed. Where did that come from?”

There was one common thread: “I had this hunch that social media had something to do with it,” he said.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (9iyS+)

98 Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw)

I was watching a vid the other day, didn't get too far into it, but the topic was that question: How did Nick F become Nick F?

And the gist of what I was seeing was that yes, he's a construct of some kind, propped up in some way by whomever. I sorta lost interest, so I guess I missed out on who or what it was that created Nick Fuentes, but the one thing I did see was how he did about a 180 turn from being an ardent MAGA Trump supporter, to becoming the Internet Troll he is today.

The irony though, as far as I'm concerned, is how so many enemies of the so-called right seem to get ALL this attention from the right, which just makes them bigger.

For example see: Crockett, Jasmine; Cortez, Sandy; and so on and so forth.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:10 PM (WF5qu)

99 Where ya goin'? I was going to make espresso"

Frau Blücher!

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:11 PM (XuXeR)

100 he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind."

Dude should've started buc-ee's instead.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (XuXeR)

101 Finkelstein and his friends basically saw Trump won and Brexit passed. And they freaked out so they started a “non profit” research group on “online hate” to make sure radical ideas like that never happen again.

Real neutral stuff right? In no way biased.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (9iyS+)

102 He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu)
No! He Is ClEaRlY aN AnTiSeMiTe WhO oNlY lOvEs PuTiN aNd DiRtY aRaBs

--NeoConBoomerInc

I recently read a quip that there are very few actual thinkers who are influential in our culture, and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them.

There are different factions in the US government, and Tucker is one area, Fuentes is another and Levin is a third.
Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.

Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)

103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"

https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)

104 All this political nonsense forced me to cut into my panettone.

I'm not sorry.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (cYBz/)

105 What knockers!!

Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1)

106 and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them."

You just described media/ journalism... save for the late 20th century when they claimed neutrality... but weren't

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (XuXeR)

107 Solzhenitsyn's writing confirms something I've wondered about - as horrible is it was, Russia really did deserve a Stalin. He was the natural consequence of the beliefs of their elites.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (uWKK8)

108 An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (0N4FZ)

109 The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN)

Let's look him up...

"Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."

Okie dokie then.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (JHYx8)

110 Roll, roll, roll in the hay...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (XuXeR)

111 Last time I checked, Boomers killed more commies than any other generation.

Which is why they get all the hate.

Posted by: Zombie Leonid Brezhnev, Sexy Eyebrows And All at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (R/m4+)

112 What knockers!!
Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1)

Sankyou, doctor!

Posted by: Terri Garr at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (5xuJ/)

113 Anyone who thinks NF just happened one day is missing the story. He’s been around for 10 years. He didn’t just come out of nowhere. He’s also been banned by every mainstream platform until X allowed him back in. YouTube still has a ban on him. He was also debanked and put on the no fly list. Ya think he might be a little spicy over that?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (9iyS+)

114 Finkelstein and Jesus?

No. Lord and tailor.

Posted by: Another punchline at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (2Ez/1)

115 But the RC church in MA still has the anti ICE display up even after the Bishop told the rector to remove it. National Catholic register site:

https://tinyurl.com/4xm27mbx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (PFs9e)

116 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9)

117 An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM

*influencer*.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (0N4FZ)

118 10 3/3
...
Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13,
_______
That is mostly OK, but my problem, as a Boomer who has often been denounced as "a traitor to my generation" is simply inaccuracy. The usual charges against the Boomers are simply things we were never responsible for. Unless you mean swallowing uncritically what our elders told us. THAT is a true charge.

The claim that the Boomers were "following a different drummer", or too nonconformist is 180 degrees from reality. Most were just sheep. And egotistic, greedy sheep. I figured this out fairly early, and in college took to wearing a coat and tie to class. It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that.

But really it is true that the bad ideas attributed to the Baby Boom were thought up by our elders. We just swallowed them whole.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (s0JqF)

119 NCRI is the online version of SPLC.
Both are far left organizations that target anyone who questions left wing orthodoxy.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (9iyS+)

120 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9)

Ok Boomer.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)

121 103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"

https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
Good catch, Fenelon!

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz8)

122 Got into a little tuff with a Russian on miniature forum. Brought up Gulag Archipelago and he swears Solzhenitsyn was a KGB stooge and his writing is fake.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (Ia/+0)

123 No. Lord and tailor.
Posted by: Another punchline "

"Tiffany? I'm glad for your sake it wasn't Van Cleef and Arpel"

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (XuXeR)

124 Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)

Tucker saying, as he repeated again just this last week, that any Christian who supports Israel and who thinks of themselves as a zionist is Evil, is NOT within the guidelines of anything Trump has ever said or supported.
Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK8)

125 116 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.

Damn, busted.

I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN)

126 Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)

Ok stoner.

Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)

127 "Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."

Okie dokie then.
Posted by: BurtTC

Totally non-biased, neutral, non-partisan guy huh? 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (9iyS+)

128 He also brought up Katyn murders were caused by the German Nazis so that was the end of that discussion

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (Ia/+0)

129 13 And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.

He's trolling you, and your kids love it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu)
_______
Absolutely. I remember talking to friends in the 70s about this. We realized that, when we got old, youngsters would start praising Nazis and the Klan, because when you're young, "Let's shock Grandma" is the Prime Directive.

The question is when does it become serious. One thing is already serious: Who dares shock the Imam?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (s0JqF)

130 I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN)

Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)

131 Damn, busted."

Johnstown?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (XuXeR)

132 It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that.
Posted by: Eeyore

"You're just giving in to 'The Man', man. . . "

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (cYBz/)

133 Who dares shock the Imam?"

The monkey?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (XuXeR)

134 120

Got you, you SOB. I posted on this very topic earlier in this thread (quite extensively). If you actually read comments like a normal person on this blog, you'd know that I am not a Boomer and don't even think like one.

What shit hole country do you post from? You haven't mentioned sex, so I'm leaning against India. You're a bit too grammatical for Nigeria. Probably a Gulf State then.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (UdiE9)

135 I think I am just going to post this every time someone starts talking about boomer hate

Boomers got told the world was screwed but they were going to be ok
GenX got told the world was doomed and they were screwed
Millennials got told they were screwed
GenZ got told that people are being brought in specifically to screw them

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:23 PM (rbvCR)

136 136,

That's a lot of screwing.

Or, we're all screwed!

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (XuXeR)

137 So be it. I get it. Change is hard. I would gently request people here keep an open mind, and when you see an opinion you don't like, hurl an insult or two if you want, but recognize that this is not a monolithic echo chamber. The AoSHQ is a special place, in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other.
Posted by: BurtTC

Sounds like something a Nigerian bot would say. 😀

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (9iyS+)

138 35 Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)
______
Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (s0JqF)

139 Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)

I'd call Ahmed, but don't forget the memo they sent out last week.

They are still withholding our jizya the rest of this year. The new No Tax on Dhimmis rule doesn't take effect until January 1.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (2NGiN)

140 I don't think Trump likes foreign wars. Nothing he has said or done indicates that he likes anything that kills people.
Unlike Trump, though, Tucker doesn't have responsibility for any promise made or have the backlash if he decides to make a hard stop

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (rbvCR)

141 in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other."

Nuh huh. Die Hard IS a Christmas movie.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (XuXeR)

142 OT

Fen ask your son to go to indeed and search for "Rutgers Laboratory Research Assistant".

There are also postings for other research assistant positions at Rutgers

Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (EMg+d)

143 139 Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?
----------------
No, but to have influence you have to at least fake virtue. Having your nudes and/or sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (UdiE9)

144 Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.

See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)

145 126 Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)

Ok stoner.
Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)
This is a textbook example of ‘divide and conquer’.
Boomer here with friends among every generation since 1949. Be better, people. America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (fHsz8)

146 Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM

You are so kind. I will tell him. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:28 PM (PFs9e)

147 sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously."

Hmm. So, people should take me very, very seriously then...

Or not.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (XuXeR)

148 None of Trump's supporters support "foreign wars". That's one of the main distinctions between us and the existing Deep State, which wanted Endless War Forever around the world. Where does Trump have troops actually risking casualties today?

But there are still international situations that are hugely corrosive to the world, and as the leading power in the world either the US addresses it or it continues to fester until it comes to our borders. Venezuela is a blight on the hemisphere that should have been taken care of 2 decades ago, but no one ever tried. Trump is not risking any soldiers, and any who understand what he's doing will understand why Maduro's government will soon fall, solving a host of bad situations simultaneously. Trump is not sending troops to war in Ukraine, and he is not sending them to war in the middle east. He has a far more rational and supportable policy than anything the US has done since Reagan was President.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (uWKK8)

149 America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here."

Careful, you'll give our beloved host a swelled head...

Oh. Thought you meant "here", as in... here.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:30 PM (XuXeR)

150 I've been commenting here more than 20 years. Go back and look for my nic.

Yours is a nic I've never seen before.

Who's paying you, asshole.
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I've posted on the same threads as you for quite some time. And the length of time you posted here isn't evidence of anything. No one is claiming that Tucker got paid by Qatar for his entire career. It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9)

151 You know, I believe KT might have started a tiff...

Hope it doesn't become a donnybrook...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB)

152 Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK

and Levin calling for the death of all arabs is within the guidelines, or silencing of his competition is?

Be very careful that you don't start down the path of "everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" because that is copyrighted by the Left, and you will have to pay them royalties.
And you will be proving that ass James Lindsay with his "woke right" jackassery to be right.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (rbvCR)

153 There are times when foreign intervention is needed.

Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+)

154 Ok, that's weird... hash just changed...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:34 PM (XuXeR)

155 I changed my linked in profile picture of me to one taken when I had an old fashioned mustache and muttonchops, posing with a llama who wore it much better than I did. I also changed my job description to "Digital content creator, Influencer and self-employed consultant, Consultant." I get even more messages telling me I'd be perfect as a board member of some company in India or the Ukraine ....

Posted by: JML at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (ZAkHP)

156 Two things blew up Nick’s popularity this year. Trump not releasing the Epstein files initially and bombing Iran. Those two things which happened in close proximity to each other made a lot of young Trump supporters say fuck it I’m out. And NF was the conduit for their anger.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (9iyS+)

157 interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9)

Interesting that you take the time to track who posts what and when. Get a life my dude.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (9iyS+)

158 158

I have a job, you dimwit.

I work.

What's "interesting" to you is of no concern to anyone, including your mother.

Whose nudes are all over the internet.

And I banged her, champ.

Deal with it.
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Speaking of Boomerish behavior . . .

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (UdiE9)

159 So, I guess my question about the Fuentes/NCRI issue is this; is the analysis NCRI did reflective of how Fuentes became popular all of a sudden?

I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ)

160 Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+)

Fact check - America has had troops in Syria since 2014, supposedly to keep down ISIS but mainly to protect Chevron's oil concessions. (no one ever likes to talk about that part) In June of this year, Trump announced that his administration is going to cut the Syrian presence down from 8 US forward bases to just 1.

Yes, it should be zero but on this Trump is still better than any other President since Reagan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (uWKK8)

161 >>It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.

You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.

Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)

162 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.

Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)

163 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)

Charming people seem to care about what you are interested in; tedious people care about what they are interested in.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (rbvCR)

164 Well, this thread has gone South pretty quickly. Uggh

Have a better day everyone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (7RYym)

165 So, tell me about your day, did you do anything interesting?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (rbvCR)

166 166 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)

For some reason this reminded me of this: It takes far more muscles to frown than to smile, but it doesn't take any at all to just sit there with a stupid look on your face.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (uWKK8)

167 165

It's possible they do it for free. Maybe they jack off to furry porn on the same Discord until they get summoned here.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (UdiE9)

168 Is Nick Fuentes popular?

I never heard of him before a month ago and I have never read anything he said or wrote. I don't care about Tucker Carlson anymore either.

Tedious.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (W7XSX)

169 Please don't give me "the treatment." Anything other than "the treatment."

lol

Putz..

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (Y1sOo)

170 I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ)

The Groyper wars were several years ago. He’s been a thing for a while. He had a long public feud with Charlie Kirk for I want to say 2 years or so. He’s been out there. But his audience is actual 29 years olds, not the AoS 29 year olds.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (9iyS+)

171 165
'Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.'

Counterpoint: I pop in only from time to time because of work. Burt and MooMoo are practically always here.

I do wish they'd stop blowing each other.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (fd80v)

172 Need to sentence all influencers to Moldova, then blow up their Internet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (RQW+z)

173 >>Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB)

Thinking it's escalated to a fracas.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (NcvvS)

174 Just seeing that two U.S. servicemembers were killed in an ambush in Syria. More wounded. No details.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:45 PM (vV6n9)

175 Weird timing. I just started reading "The Gulag Archipelago" this past week. Now I will be looking a little closer at what Solzhenitsyn is saying from the "double voicing" perspective.

Posted by: Crabby Appleton at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (JcXec)

176 Don't flatter yourself, numbnuts. Attention whores crave attention. I give it to you.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Y1sOo)

177 Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)

Oh
My
God

Two people who share the same views post at the same time when the topic is interesting to both of them. Damn dude you got us. We’ve been exposed as Bangladeshi bots.

You’ve perfectly exemplified textbook Boomerism. Do you really not have the ability to accept that not everyone thinks like you? Holy fuck man.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (9iyS+)

178 167
169

"I fucked your Mom!"
"I'm a fucking stud!"

This is good evidence for what I was (politely) alluding to earlier about older generations not imparting wisdom, but behaving childishly. I know 11 year olds used to talk like this on multiplayer servers, but the only other people I know who talk like this are older (and generally overweight) know-it-all guys at least 55 or older. It's off-putting in person and hilariously out of place on forums and comment threads.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (UdiE9)

179 You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.

It's interesting that two individuals that have new nics that don't capitalize any of the words in their nics show up at the same time on the same thread calling BurtC who has been here 20 years a bot.

The other odd thing is that the only ones that seem to have been openly outed for paying people $7,000 k per post and that call meetings with Tim Poole and other influencers to discuss narratives aren't from Qatar, but from some other country over there in the Middle East.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:47 PM (2NGiN)

180 2 hours and 15 minutes until the Black Knights of the Hudson initiate destruction sequence on the US Naval Academy Squids.

Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (/iMjX)

181
Hi! How's everyone today?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (tgvbd)

182 Another week, another lawsuit.
A preservation group is suing Trump over the White House Ballroom demolition. Unfreaking real.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (5xuJ/)

183 GO ARMY, BEAT NAVY! (Loser goes to Venezuela)

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:49 PM (vV6n9)

184
Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard family. We will be happy with whoever wins.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:50 PM (3ek7K)

185 Two options

1. Young people have had it with Americans sending money to foreign countries and endless wars and NF is an outlet for that viewpoint.

2. It’s all bots and everyone actually loves endless wars and can’t wait to invade Iran and Venezuela.

Hmm which is more likely?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:50 PM (9iyS+)

186 A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.

I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS)

187 179

Of the four people I'd refer to as contrarians on this thread, you are literally the only one I have never seen before.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (UdiE9)

188 It’s time for pie and coffee break.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:52 PM (fHsz8)

189
I saw a headline a few days about an interview Fuentes did.

He said he's a virgin and some stuff about women.

I didn't read the article cause I don't care.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (3ek7K)

190 121 103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"

https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
Good catch, Fenelon!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz

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The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (s0JqF)

191 I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS)
El Rushbo was botted. This bot snottin’ is nothing nes.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (fHsz8)

192 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz

Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9)

193 His interview with Piers Morgan was hilarious. Piers called him an incel. And then the groypers dug around and found all sorts of material about his wife admitting she fucks other guys on the side and can’t stand to be around Piers. Poor Piers I almost (almost) felt sorry for the fucker.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (9iyS+)

194 The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
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Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii.

So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9)

195 Muldoon glad you reminded me
No dog in the fight but like to watch it

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)

196 How's everyone today"

Peachy! You?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:58 PM (XuXeR)

197 Nood.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (W7XSX)

198 Was that "the treatment?" A mom joke stolen from the 90s internet?

lol

Putz..

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (Y1sOo)

199 144 Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.

See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)
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Incoherent.
1. It makes "boomer" a useless term, whereas if used for a specific generation, it has a use.
2. The latter part is worse. It is in fact correct to say that, if Stalin says the sky is blue, then Stalin is correct, if only on this one point.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF)

200 Fuentes is probably a operative like many Leftists do to make Conservatives into a scape goat

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

201 I guess we be nood.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF)

202 NOOD. Syria is asshoe...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (nbLIj)

203 Doesn't Navy generally win?

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (W7XSX)

204 Story Piers Morgan told LONG ago, on UK political party conferences:

Party conferences are wonderful things. All those drunken, vile, backbiting, hypocritical, sneering, self-interested, amoral creeps together in one heaving cesspit. And that's just the journalists. It's the one time every year when politicians confirm with their own eyes that the fourth estate, which so loves to expose their ghastly peccadillos, is just as ghastly as they are. My first conference was the Tories at Bournemouth in 1994. The News of the World, under
my new editorship, had recently exposed Alan Clark's affair with that judge's cover, and I arrived to find him haranguing
some of my executives in a disturbingly animated way. 'Alan,' I said firmly, 'I'm Piers. You can either punch me or buy me a pint.' He stared, bemused yet intrigued, for 20 seconds. 'Right, pint first, punch almost certainly later.' (cont)

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (NcvvS)

205 192 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz

Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9)
Side bar ewe tutes are 100% lies. Especially .military-themed.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (fHsz8)

206 Well, my job is done.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (XuXeR)

207 When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.

Speaking of COVID...

DC_Draino @DC_Draino

They kicked combat veterans out of the military for refusing the Covid vax.

They fired nurses and firefighters, people who they called heroes just months before.

Families were ripped apart at the holidays.

And for what?

A drug that now has an FDA black box warning because it can kill you?

People need to go to jail.

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper

BREAKING: FDA intends to put a ‘black box’ warning on Covid-19 vaccines, CNN reports

The ‘black box’ is the most serious type of warning, which highlights major risks such as serious side effects and restrictions.

X: https://bit.ly/4oThblh

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (P5BPp)

208 194 The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
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Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii.

So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9)
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Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (s0JqF)

209 "Influencers" = "Fetchers"? Ad Men? Hucksters?
"Internet Carnie"?

There has to be a word more reflecting the low nature of the "job."

Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (UwBs6)

210 Piers, continued:

Eight pints later, he'd decided on his legal settlement. 'For the distress you've caused my wife, 10,000. For the distress you've caused me, 10,000. And for the distress you've caused my sons, 20,000. I can't look them in the face after you said I flashed my knob at gay parties.' I considered my position. 'Well, that's a bit on the pricey side, Alan. I've got a better idea. You give me 50,000, and we won't disclose the other nine women who've told us they
had affairs with you.' Long pause. 'Nine women .. God .. what were their names?'

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (NcvvS)

211 Afternoon.

Fuentes? Buying engagement? I'm shocked. Shocked!

Okay, not that shocked.

But 22year old college graduates aren't making high six figures in Fortune 500 companies and bedding down two new omen every night do that just proves we need to listen to that smarmy little faggot for...reasons.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 01:06 PM (jVp5w)

212 Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.
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The original linked article concluded that Jesus was not a refugee because he never left the Roman Empire.

You noted (correctly) that Judea and Egypt were not both states as the author's comparison assumed.

I noted that Jesus would have been a refugee in the way the word is used now only if he had moved into an entirely different country, like Parthia.

Now you are butthurt. I'm not sure what your issue is either. I guess I should just not respond to in the future, like Burt and his crowd.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (UdiE9)

213 muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?

Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS)

214 Moldova? Moldova sucks!

https://youtu.be/AhuHPhey7D4?t=42

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (O7YUW)

215 Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (D+mpw)

216 215 Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Thruway's closed, Man!

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (oftw2)

217 So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.

This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit.

But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM

They most certainly are. At least for those with Gell-Mann Amnesia.

Posted by: Michael Crichton at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (P5BPp)

218 Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM

Yep:

QIA ($557B fund) opened U.S. offices in New York (2015) and San Francisco.

Has poured billions into Manhattan skyscrapers, Uber, Snapchat, and Hollywood.

In May 2025, Qatar agreed to a $1.2 trillion economic exchange with the U.S.

Includes the largest Boeing widebody order in history and $500B+ in new AI and energy investment.

Americans are still blocked from owning Qatari media or strategic assets.

X: https://bit.ly/4iRO1l3

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:28 PM (P5BPp)

219 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM

Public records, tax filings, and reports indicate a diverse mix of funders, including:

Pro-Israel or Jewish community organizations → such as the Israel on Campus Coalition (ICC) ($335,000 in 2021) and the Ruderman Family Foundation ($34,750 recently).

Hindu advocacy groups → such as CoHNA (Coalition of Hindus of North America, $26,000 for research on Hinduphobia).

Tech/philanthropic foundations → such as the Motwani Jadeja Family Foundation ($125,000 recently).

Conservative-leaning sources → such as the Charles Koch Foundation/Stand Together Trust (announced support in 2020).

Other reported past support → from Open Society Foundations, philanthropist David Magerman, Rutgers University contributions, and anonymous donors.

Grok full answer: https://bit.ly/48TqBHG

Open Society Foundations = George Soros

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (P5BPp)

220 The extracts from that essay on The Entitlement Machine are exactly why what Trump is accomplishing.....is useless. Trump is trying to downsize government and save costs, but his programs are NOT addressing the real problem.

Until the mindset of running to DC for every little unexpected expense - at the individual level and the civic level and the State level - until the reflex expectation of federal bucks for every unexpected expense is broken, everything which Trump is accomplishing will be undone and undone right quickly.

Trump can succeed wildly and beyond all expectations at every one of his goals, and even get them enacted legislatively, but unless the mindset of ever-expanding entitlements is broken, it will all very quickly come to naught.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (bufu1)

221 Rhymes with a female body part.

Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM

Gipple?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (P5BPp)

222 Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM

Via Grok:

Yes, Tucker Carlson's son, Buckley Carlson, is currently working for Vice President JD Vance as his deputy press secretary. This was widely reported in January 2025 by outlets like ABC News, Newsweek, and The Hill, after Buckley transitioned from his prior role as deputy chief of staff to Rep. Jim Banks on Capitol Hill.

Regarding Mark Levin, it's not one of his biological children (he has a son, Chase, and a daughter, Lauren). However, his stepson, David Milstein, worked as a paid consultant for Ron DeSantis's 2022 gubernatorial reelection campaign and his 2024 presidential campaign, focusing on Jewish and pro-Israel outreach. This was reported in November 2023 by Semafor and others, noting that Levin had praised DeSantis extensively on air without disclosing the family tie. The DeSantis presidential campaign ended in early 2024, so Milstein is no longer actively working for him in that capacity.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp)

223 If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.

If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction.

Posted by: AB at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (ArLSQ)

224 223 If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.

If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction.
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No, I don't think you're missing anything. I use libtard news sources to prove a point, when that point isn't pushing their usual narrative. Mind you, citing NYT that school closures were a disaster during Covid hasn't swayed any libtards so far, but I guess that's libtards for you.

One of the best pieces of evidence that the second (more famous) Gulf of Tonkin Incident was just spooked sailors seeing things on radar scopes was that Hanoi loved to play up its attacks on Americans, and did not take credit for that "night attack". Hanoi were dirty commies, but the incentive structure meant that I believe them if they said years later that they did not attack the Maddox and the Turner Joy.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (UdiE9)

225 I don't believe anyone is an influencer. There are just grifters and content creators. It's all about the money.

Left, right, queer, straight, single, tradcon, blogs, X, YouTube, Rumble, Twitchy, whatever. No one really believes in anything they are selling. They are simply picking a "hot topic" of the day and using it to make money.

Case in point is this expose of "right-wing e-girl drama". These "right-wing e-girls" promote themselves as tradcons, yet behind the scenes they are a bunch of immature bitches to one another.

YouTube (hoe_math): https://bit.ly/4rWlkaR

Some of the crap these people say to one another is disgusting. And if any of it is true, it confirms what I've suspected of these right-wing "conferences" (e.g. the stuff like the upcoming "AmFest") that are nothing more than social hook-ups.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (P5BPp)

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