The United Kingdom's Existential Crisis

[Hyde Park, December 2025]

I spent a pleasant Friday evening at a restaurant in Canary Wharf, in the Docklands of London. Yes, those famous docks that were Hitler's particular target. The area has been built up into a financial center that has become quite an impressive place. It's far from the center of London, but the recent opening of another underground line has been a game changer for the area. In addition to the many banks and financial services companies that call it home, there are dozens of restaurants and shops and markets that serve the increasing numbers of people who not only work there, but live in the apartment buildings springing up everywhere.

But back to dinner! Next to us sat three 20-something men, busily drinking their lagers and flirting with women on their phones (but not in person). We struck up a conversation with them, and I was struck by how pessimistic they were about their future prospects. These gentlemen despaired of meeting and marrying and building a middle class existence. Even the one who was in the trades (an electrician) wasn't optimistic about what would be the normal progression in America: Learn, work, strike out on your own and build a small company.

One in particular complained about how England is changing into a place that doesn't seem like it welcomes him. Yet when I asked for whom he voted in the last election, his answer was: Labor!

All three were interested in America, and in fact two had visited, albeit briefly. But they were also woefully ignorant of the differences between the two countries. I had to explain the 1st Amendment! Their opinions about President Trump were partly typical...driven by the incessant drumbeat of leftist media in the UK, but they were not as reflexively critical as I had expected.

What I took away from the conversation was that they saw their future prospects as dismal, and that there was no reasonable alternative available to them on the horizon. They saw no Donald Trump or Charlie Kirk who could speak to them about a better way. They saw the country in which they have lived their entire lives being subsumed by a Woke (their word) insanity that denigrated everything they felt was important. And they saw an economic system that was stacked against them, without any way to change it.

Is it any wonder that the UK is rapidly sliding into both irrelevancy and authoritarian control? Is it any wonder that Islam is on the march? After all, they have a plan. They have an alternative. They have a vision of the future. That their vision is evil and destructive means very little to its adherents, because they will reap the benefits of that destruction.

Is this Weimar Germany in the 21st century? Will a Hitler arise in the UK and show these young men a different path? Or will they gradually be gobbled up by encroaching Islam, and forced into dhimmitude, or worse? Will Tommy Robinson, or someone like him be able to galvanize public support for a push against the destruction of what once was the shining beacon of freedom in the world? Will Nigel Farage be able to fight the structural and political impediments to a Reform Party win in the next elections almost four years from now? Will the UK crash so quickly that the Labor Party has to call an election before that?

I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 I'm on it

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)

2
ESPONJA!!11!1!!11

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 07, 2025 12:01 PM (tljrc)

3 When Islam fully takes over, it will be a different kind of great...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 07, 2025 12:02 PM (ynpvh)

4 That picture has me instinctively reaching for the spare grocery bags under the sink.

Posted by: pookysgirl, not even a neat freak at December 07, 2025 12:06 PM (Wt5PA)

5 I suspect one could have similar conversations in any major blue city in America.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:06 PM (2WIwB)

6 I take it one can find Winston Marshall guest on his podcast Britain will disappear in Hyde Park

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:07 PM (Ia/+0)

7 Britain is rapidly becoming a bundle of dry straw, just waiting for a match. It could be anything, since every system they have is failing.
But weighing against that is the observation that the people there are now just sheep, incapable of any action other than to groan and bleat in their way to the slaughterhouse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (c7Ygk)

8 Thanks CBD. Britain will not be great again in my lifetime. In 100 years or more, who knows? But honestly they haven’t been great since the WWII era… maybe a tiny renaissance under Thatcher in the 80s… but during the Cold War they always needed our military because they poured so much money into their national health service they couldn’t afford to properly fund the royal navy which I understand is a bit of a joke these days… the next that won At Trafalgar and Jutland and ruled the seas for centuries is a shell

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (+kWhq)

9 Diogenes especially if 3x 20 somethings were found in a urban Leftist hole

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (Ia/+0)

10 Short of American style revolution and a heavy side dish of ethnic cleansing, the UK is done.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 12:09 PM (snZF9)

11 Londoners have a first hand view of the terror of Islam, as CBD's friends seem to have noted. Their billionaires might start backing the Farage types, as they see their society slip sliding away.

Do those billionaires really plan to live their lives out in a Chalet in the Alps, or a Mediterranean seaside estate? And even there, would they really remain untouchable by Islam?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 12:09 PM (vbXSk)

12 I was stationed in the UK in the early '90's. You never saw this. There wasn't so much as cigarette butts on the ground.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 07, 2025 12:09 PM (LjSYW)

13 You sound pessimistic, CBD.
My lineage is almost completely Irish, English and Scottish, back to the Norman invasion, plus a kraut or two who snuck in.
There’s a village in the East Midlands with my surname on it. I wanted to visit there.
Now, nope.
I’m an American and I’ll fight for my heritage here.

Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (3Aazl)

14 UK is 6% Muslim
They tend to be socially very conservative
Anti gay
Anti abortion
Anti alcohol

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith... the anal behind anal sex at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (9k4Yy)

15 If they had Walmart they could get Great Value.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (pkeXY)

16 5 I suspect one could have similar conversations in any major blue city in America.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:06 PM (2WIwB)

But there is still an escape path open in America, as attested to by the thousands who are relocating weekly to Florida, Texas, and other similar locales. For major Blue cities there is no hope, because all of their competent people are leaving.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (c7Ygk)

17 Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (9k4Yy)

Oh my.

You are a fucking retard!

Not even worth batting around a bit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:14 PM (n9ltV)

18 UK is 6% Muslim
They tend to be socially very conservative
Anti gay
Anti abortion
Anti alcohol.

And vote like kooks. Their job is to help destroy society to usher in sharia.

Try to keep up, dickbag.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 07, 2025 12:15 PM (LjSYW)

19 I was in se England 78 -80, would have if had to guess more like Camp of the Saints with so many Indian and Pakistani there.

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:15 PM (Ia/+0)

20 I don’t understand British politics but how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long? I highly doubt Starmer is popular in any way but somehow the elites manipulate the system and stay in power… doesn’t sound like representative government to me. The parliamentary system stinks quite frankly

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (+kWhq)

21 You sound pessimistic, CBD.

Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 12:10 PM (3Aazl)

I am. London is one of my favorite cities in the world. It was a great place, and one of the repositories of Western culture, in particular the culture that helped spawn America.

But too much of it is unrecognizable.

Unless they awaken from their slumber, they will fall.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (n9ltV)

22 But there is still an escape path open in America, as attested to by the thousands who are relocating weekly to Florida, Texas, and other similar locales. For major Blue cities there is no hope, because all of their competent people are leaving.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:11 PM (c7Ygk)

Agreed. In England it is a national crisis and they have precious few places to go. Here it is regional. One is a tank of gas away from liberty.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (2WIwB)

23
And even there, would they really remain untouchable by Islam?
Posted by: illiniwek

I would expect the muzzies would see that as an afront to ttheir superiority, then go after them and destroy them root and stem.

And I won't lift a finger to stop it when it happens.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (QVmho)

24 Bible Study Corner. King Solomon describes why they and we are f*cked.

https://is.gd/Oy8egx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (L/fGl)

25 Britain, Germany, Ireland, Sweden, etc.
All are on a trajectory that bodes poorly for the native populations.
The Marxists and the Muzzies will fight to gain control, until such time as they turn against each other for ultimate power.
My guess is the Muzzies win because demographically they are on a track to increase their population at a far greater rate over the next couple decades.
At which point, the cradle of Western Civilization, the Reformation, the Enlightenment, the Renaissance and the Industrial Revolution will fall into an Age of Darkness from which it will never recover.
Hopefully, America will watch and learn from their demise.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (MNCvZ)

26 how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (+kWhq)

They won a majority in 2024.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (n9ltV)

27 “but during the Cold War they always needed our military because they poured so much money into their national health service they couldn’t afford to properly fund the royal navy which I understand is a bit of a joke these days… “
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:08 PM (+kWhq)

The entire UK military has been allowed to decay into virtual non existence. Early this year Starmer was talking about putting together an expeditionary force if 25,000 men to go help Ukraine. His top military men coughed politely and told him “um, tone that talk down. We might could find 5,000 available if you give us 6 months to work on it.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (c7Ygk)

28 I spent 2 months working in Reading in the late 90s. I would go into London pretty much every weekend and man it was such a vibrant fun city.

This was right as Tony Blair was getting started on destroying his country. I went back in 2005 for a week. And something seemed off. London was still fun but there was an air about it that something just wasn’t right. Then I went back in 2015 and Ho Lee Fuk it was a different universe than what I remembered. It wasn’t London anymore.

In one generation they destroyed it all.

I can only imagine what another 10 years has done to the place.

RIP UK

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (SQJLY)

29 Unless they awaken from their slumber, they will fall.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM (n9ltV)

THEY WILL FALL.
Succinct, to the point, and accurate.
And sends a chill up one's spine.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 12:18 PM (2WIwB)

30 Is it any wonder that Islam is on the march? After all, they have a plan. They have an alternative. They have a vision of the future. That their vision is evil and destructive means very little to its adherents, because they will reap the benefits of that destruction.
_________________

The exact can be said America's "Democratic Socialists.'

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 07, 2025 12:18 PM (f0sNM)

31 They won a majority in 2024.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 12:17 PM (n9ltV)

I didn’t know that… I thought they cobbled together a parliamentary majority by banding together with a bunch of other leftist parties but that the reform party of Farage got more votes than Labour…. Not the first time I’ve been wrong!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:20 PM (OW907)

32 I would no longer step foot in the UK - and most of the EU, for that matter.

Mrs. BD and I both have relatives there and we don't understand what they're waiting for.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 12:21 PM (LdSJK)

33 20 I don’t understand British politics but how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long?

—

They won a yuuuuge majority last year. 400+ seats out of 650.

But percentage wise they only won 33% of the vote.

Parliamentary elections are wack in this aspect.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:21 PM (SQJLY)

34 It's not just the UK, unfortunately. It's almost the entire western world.

I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful. Now more than ever we are the exception not the rule.

Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (viF8m)

35

Europe’s embattled liberal-globalist elites erupted in fury this week after the Trump administration released its bold new National Security Strategy, which rightfully called out the EU’s anti-European positions, bureaucratic nightmare, and its diminishing geopolitical influence.

Valérie Hayer, head of the EU Parliament’s globalist Renew group, exploded in response, calling the U.S. analysis “unacceptable and dangerous.” She even went so far as to brazenly label the Trump administration “an enemy of Europe,” arrogantly claiming Washington has no business questioning the EU’s failed progressive agenda and increasingly authoritarian policies.

Liberal activist Gerald Knaus from a pro-immigration think tank went even further, hysterically declaring the U.S. a “direct threat to European democracy and peace.” He absurdly accused Washington of plotting to break up the EU and NATO, revealing the paranoia of an elite class clinging to power.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (pkeXY)

36 It's really sad

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (6U1c2)

37 I've never been to Europe, even in my military days (USMC 69-76, you were going elsewhere). I have wanted to go, and now the only country I would like to visit might be Poland, or maybe Dad's birthplace, Finland, now that they are starting to get their act together. Fuck it, Vegas is warmer.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (gm9Sb)

38 Oligarchs the world over don’t view countries as countries anymore. They’re just places to make money for them. Import 10M foreigners into the UK? If it lowers out production costs by 1%, totally worth it bro. So want if a 1000 year civilization is eradicated?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (SQJLY)

39 Sitting in front of the PC in my Helly Hansens (insulated coveralls), enjoying a last mug of coffee before venturing out to run the snowblower. Maybe 2,3 degrees F, but ZERO wind, and some sunshine. After that, round up the batteries from pickup, tractor, lawn mower and golf cart, and get them into warm shop, and on charge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:27 PM (npFr7)

40 All symptoms of the extended Judgement Day the planet is experiencing. It's no wonder people are going off the rails. Much Biblical evidence points to 2033 as being the end of all things visible.

Posted by: Deck Chairs, Titanic at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (oftw2)

41 Europe has a socialist mindset , even the 'conservative' Europeans so they will continue the down slide until they start warring with each other over the scraps that socialism leaves.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (KDPiq)

42 > I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.
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Presuming in our lifetime it was ever, really, great. In mine it was mostly meh. That goes for a lot of Europe. It's heyday was almost a century ago. If not centuries ago.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (NwnyJ)

43 I take it parliamentary seats/districts are never reapportioned?

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (W7XSX)

44 Maybe 2,3 degrees F, but ZERO wind, and some sunshine.

—

That’s my definition of a prefect winter day.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (SQJLY)

45 I mean George Orwell remained a Socialist even when he recognized where that train always arrives.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:29 PM (KDPiq)

46 England’s situation looks hopeless because they have 4 existential crises going on simultaneously, and each one reinforces the other.
1) A Government that now is only supported by 12% of the population, and yet which may remain in power in 2029. In response to criticism this government gets more fascist by the day; their latest proposal is to save costs by doing away with jury trials, and allow the accused to be sentenced to whether the Government appointed official feels like giving.
2) industry and the economy are collapsing; an insane obsession with NetZero by Ed Milliband is causing English electricity prices to skyrocket to being the highest in Europe; as a result England is deindustrializing and working class jobs are disappearing forever. As industry vanishes, the economy gets weaker and weaker. (Cont’d)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:30 PM (c7Ygk)

47 No. A perfect Winter day is 78 degrees in Palm Springs.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:30 PM (W7XSX)

48 I take it parliamentary seats/districts are never reapportioned?
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:28 PM (W7XSX)

They are just like congressional districts are here.

Up until recently the number of seats would fluctuate as well. It was set at 650 as a permanent number only about 20 years ago.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:30 PM (SQJLY)

49 AOP is basking in zero wind and sunshine, having sent the dreaded clippers our way.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (gm9Sb)

50 Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:25 PM (gm9Sb)

Croatia is where I would like to go if I ever visited Europe.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (KDPiq)

51 It's going to be 77 in San Diego on Tuesday.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (W7XSX)

52 I like 4 seasons. 70 and sunny every day gets boring.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:32 PM (SQJLY)

53 After Trump (and Vance, fingers crossed) we're fucked too. Even with something of a reprieve, we're watching the caliphate grow within America like a cancer and state/local authorities all across the country continuing their anarchotyranny. And when those locations become intolerable, critical masses of their populations will move to the last redoubts of sanity in the country, then proceed to destroy them in the exact same way.

Posted by: Get ready, we'll hit the bottom of the slide soon enough at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (TbWk/)

54 There were two things that allowed Hitler to rise...

1) The left letting its freak flag hang out

2) The right choosing to not try and stop the left because it would have caused issues personally for the right's leaders.

But, TBH, Britain doesn't look like Germany in the late 20s. It looks like any other conquered and colonized country.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (sKqQm)

55
Europe has a socialist mindset , even the 'conservative' Europeans so they will continue the down slide until they start warring with each other over the scraps that socialism leaves.
Posted by: the way I see it

I would like to add that the U.S. should offer no quarter. No refugees. No support to the former western europe shits. They brought this onto themselves, and can either grow a pair and rise up fighting, or die whimpering in the corner like the gimp litte asshole bois they all are. We've lost two generation on that continent already. They can live with what they've sown with out us bailing them out again.

Especially aggressive against the globo-homo elite that brought this about.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (QVmho)

56 Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (viF8m)

I was thinking of the best way to say this. You just did, JS.

Posted by: RI Red at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (An79C)

57 I tend to disagree.
Yes, it is easy to be pessimistic about the prospects of England surviving it's current existential crisis given no change of direction.
That being said, there are several in the UK (Tommy, Nigel, et al) who can step up to the plate, rousing true Englishmen to once again become that 'band of brothers' able to do whatever is necessary to take their country back. And I am sure there are others waiting in the wings of whom we have yet to hear.
That extraordinary times birth extraordinary people is absolutely true. We in America are experiencing this in real time with the advent of Donald Trump on our political scene and all it implies for our country.
I believe the same will be true of England and that great nation will not go quietly into the night.
It will, once again, become the roaring lion and devour it's enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Rule, Britannia!

Posted by: BrianinTn at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (AWMGl)

58 We, as in the countries of the West, may have to fall back on the FDR precedent of grossly violating the civil rights of a group of citizens (the Japanese-Americans) who were thought (wrongly thought, in FDR's case) to represent a threat to the rest of the country, in dealing with the Muslims in our countries.

I would hate to do this, but if survival is at stake, then the notion that the Constitution-Isn't-A-Suicide-Pact comes into play.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2025 12:33 PM (3C1oN)

59 Croatia is where I would like to go if I ever visited Europe.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:31 PM (KDPiq)

Italy, any of the Balkans, save for the muzzie areas, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland , Romania, maybe Bulgaria.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 12:34 PM (npFr7)

60 It's 66 right now with a high of 70 later today. No real wind to speak and no rain in forecast though it is a bit overcast . I'll take this as a winter day all season.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:34 PM (KDPiq)

61 25
'My guess is the Muzzies win because demographically they are on a track to increase their population at a far greater rate over the next couple decades....
Hopefully, America will watch and learn from their demise.'

Hopefully they learn that Muzzie demographics in the Western Hemisphere needs to be decreased dramatically.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:34 PM (fd80v)

62 50 You wouldn't have to go far. There's a Croatian neighborhood in Cleveland. Still has a Croatian language newspaper, all kinds of shops, but everybody is just Clevelandish.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:35 PM (gm9Sb)

63 >>Croatia is where I would like to go if I ever visited Europe.

That's where my ex's family is originally from. Beautiful place. They left when the communists came back. Again.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:37 PM (viF8m)

64 With a couple of exceptions every Western European I’ve known in the US, including Brits, has been a leftist. Their default setting is big government good, guns bad, religion dangerous. Even down to the stereotypical hatred of pickups cuz they kill the erf.

It’s like a Euro NPC. Complete with regular updates to be outraged about the current thing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:37 PM (SQJLY)

65 Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:35 PM (gm9Sb)

Too bad Cleveland doesn't have that beautiful Mediterranean coastline.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:38 PM (KDPiq)

66 Oh and another thing, while the NAZIs blamed the Jews, their real problem was with France and Britain. But...those French and British people were in another country.

I suspect the history of the late 20s/early 30s would have looked very different if after their loss in WWI the French/British had enforced immigration of millions of their citizens into Germany and had re-built the German political system to be one that represented those new British/French "citizens" instead of Germans.

There wouldn't have been a Hitler.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:38 PM (sKqQm)

67 more existential crises for England: 3) Immigration. They have talked about doing something, but never do. (Labour sees them as voters, sounds familiar?). As the economy continues to sink, this becomes cement overshoes for the nation, as there are now millions of jobless immigrants willing to riot unless they are paid off. And 4) the Military , which for practical purposes doesn’t exist any more. Literally, there are now more Admirals than Capital Ships (only 27 such ships left)

Any of these crises are a challenge to the life of a nation; to face all 4 simultaneously appears insurmountable.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:39 PM (c7Ygk)

68 31
'I thought they cobbled together a parliamentary majority by banding together with a bunch of other leftist parties but that the reform party of Farage got more votes than Labour'

Labour won a huge number of the seats in Parliament. But they won each of those seats with only plurality. They won a bunch of three way races with Reform and Conservative opposition.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:39 PM (fd80v)

69 You go out to the lakefront, and watch the majesty of Lake Erie waves rolling in, along with the often Alberta Clipper that shuts down three counties with ice, snow, and power outages.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:40 PM (gm9Sb)

70 It’s like a Euro NPC. Complete with regular updates to be outraged about the current thing.

There is no meaningful free speech in Europe. Yes they can go to American websites but when you are bathed 24-7 in propaganda it sticks.

And the propaganda is THICK. I was in Europe not long ago and on public transit they were running ads discussing how environmentally friendly CHINA was...and how they were better then the dirty Americans and even Europe...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:40 PM (sKqQm)

71 When I was in Venice Italy I was sitting next to a young couple from the UK, maybe 30 years old. Very nice couple, the girl was blonde, very cute, the husband was very cool, both had that higher class brit accent. Somehow we started talking about london, and I mentioned how it was going with islam basically taking it over. The girl says "oh no problem, they are lovely people". I knew right there, yup, they're fucked.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 12:40 PM (snZF9)

72 Also see at American Thinker- Europe is dying

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 12:41 PM (Ia/+0)

73 Years ago I watched a Q&A session on the BBC with Jimmy Savile, yes that Jimmy Savile and British high schoolers, maybe around 1981-82. All the kids could talk about was racism in England, how the medical everything needed to be funded and free for the poors and oh how awful it was to be free, white and living in England. Jimmy Savile, yes that Jimmy Savile, told them they needed to work hard, look after themselves and their families and be proud of being English. The English Monster Children poopooed him. Reminds me of American Monster Children in college today

Posted by: England Is An Asshole Baby at December 07, 2025 12:41 PM (R/m4+)

74 One would think that Britons, and their European brethren would, at some point, realize their demise was coming at the hands of the Muslims they've imported and be shocked into action.

One would think.

But I'd not bet on it.

Same goes for areas here in the US not (yet) overrun with leftists. But I'd not bet on that either.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (NwnyJ)

75 56 Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM (viF8m)

Sadly’ I agree. It’s gotten too bad for anything else.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (c7Ygk)

76 If Farage can win a majority next election there may be a sliver of hope. The polls say it’s likely. But the next election is several years away which is a lifetime in politics.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (SQJLY)

77 Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:38 PM (sKqQm)

Or if Britain and especially France didn't demand their pound of flesh after the war was over.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:43 PM (KDPiq)

78 Any of these crises are a challenge to the life of a nation; to face all 4 simultaneously appears insurmountable.

The invaders are well funded by the British government so they will not go home without a fight. The current government needs those invaders for their votes so they will not let them be sent home without a fight. And the British elites ultimately earn their wealth from those invaders so they also will not let them be sent home without a fight.

In theory normal Brits could rally to threaten their elites/governments more but modern authoritarian regimes like Britain have learned to marginalize/destroy dissidents before they can get much of a movement going.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:43 PM (sKqQm)

79 One would think that Britons, and their European brethren would, at some point, realize their demise was coming at the hands of the Muslims they've imported and be shocked into action.

Their FNM tells them the invaders

1) All have a sob story
2) Are all hard working taxpayers keeping the NHS afloat
3) Are law abiding and reasonable and just want the same thing native Brits do

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:44 PM (sKqQm)

80 As I pointed out even Britain's smartest have no ability to determine cause and effect like all left leaning peoples.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:44 PM (KDPiq)

81 One is a tank of gas away from liberty.
Posted by: Diogenes

In many US cites that better be a very large tank!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 12:46 PM (dRZit)

82 Lotus Eaters podcast discusses these issues.
Interesting watch. I’m always shocked that those guys aren’t in prison given the UK’s “hate speech” laws.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:46 PM (SQJLY)

83 The British government ain't scared of the native British people because they are disarmed. They sure were concerned about the terrorist armed IRA though weren't they.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (KDPiq)

84 Look at the lefts reaction to Somalis stealing billions in Minnesota. We’re the bad guys for noticing. They’re the real victims dontchaknow?

No different than Brits who thinks rape gangs are no biggie because it’s their culture. You’re the bad guy for noticing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (SQJLY)

85 >>>But they were also woefully ignorant of the differences between the two countries. I had to explain the 1st Amendment!

I am near tears, on reading that. Sad tears.

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (RuTUS)

86 Israel has done an exercise assuming that something terrible happens in Europe, and tens of thousands of European Jews all suddenly want to immigrate to Israel at once.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)

87 Like far to many Americans, most of Europe has no idea what the Second Amendment is all about. Basic Brit. "Why yes, If I get a permit from the Constable, I can have a rook gun to cut down on the vermin attacking my garden. The permit may take a year if approved". Basic US red state guy or gal. " Let me have one of those, just in case".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (gm9Sb)

88 The future belongs to those who show up. Britain in two centuries will be mostly low IQ inbreds who have mixed English Pakistani DNA. It will be tribal and Islamic. It will be miserable. Alea iacta est.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (R86kT)

89 As I pointed out even Britain's smartest have no ability to determine cause and effect like all left leaning peoples.

This is something I personally got to see...

I worked in a small blue shitty in an office park. Most of my cow-workers were leftist LIVs. The old mayor retired who was a standard corruptocrat and a new woke candidate ran. My cow-workers all supported her because she was going to protect the Erf.

One of her initiatives was to make people drive smaller cars by forcing businesses in the city to make half their parking spots sized for compact cars.

She won. My cow-workers celebrated. She passed her rule. The company that owned the office park went ahead and repainted the parking garage. My cow-workers drove big trucks and SUVs mostly and many were fat, so as you can imagine people were constantly banging each other's cars.

My cow-workers were indignant. How dare the office park do this! And no, no amount of showing them their beloved mayor passed the very rule they were complaining about had any effect on them. "Damn that greedy office park company...why...I bet they painted the spots smaller because of corporate greed!"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (sKqQm)

90 >>Sadly’ I agree. It’s gotten too bad for anything else.

I don't think we realize how unbelievably fortunate we are that Trump and Musk came along. We look out on the rest of the world and wonder how they got there and sometimes forget we were on the exact same path a decade ago. An argument can be made we were leading the charge.

I don't see any Trumps or Musks rising in the rest of the world.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)

91 Israel has done an exercise assuming that something terrible happens in Europe, and tens of thousands of European Jews all suddenly want to immigrate to Israel at once.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)

That was my favorite part of World War Z .

The explanation on how Israel was prepared for a zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:51 PM (KDPiq)

92 I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.

I've been watching The Crown on Netflix (hands over man card unbidden) and it's really interesting to watch as the British come to grips with the fact that they are only a middle-rank power (at best) and that the US and USSR are now the big dogs. Decline is a choice, they say, but I don't really see how it could have worked out any differently. They simply lacked the economy to support a worldwide empire, and successive world wars had bankrupted them, while the former colonies all demanded independence. However, that doesn't mean they can't still play an outsize role in world affairs if they can get their own affairs in order. I just don't think they want to.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

93 One would think that Britons, and their European brethren would, at some point, realize their demise was coming at the hands of the Muslims they've imported and be shocked into action.

Which is why the British government is eliminating jury trials for any offense carrying a sentence of two years in prison or less.

Be "shocked into action", and you'll face a judge that will be imprisoning patriotic Englishmen on an assembly line.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:51 PM (xTIDn)

94 >>>I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again

Maybe they'll join the EU!

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:52 PM (RuTUS)

95
Way too much publicity is given to those Americans leaving the US because of Trump and going to Europe. Mostly they're deadweight: single, childless AWFLs, retirees, recent humanities grads, artistes.

For every one of them, there's at least one European looking to come here to escape gouging taxes, crushing regulations, invasive bureaucracy and lack of opportunities. We never hear about those people.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 12:52 PM (tgvbd)

96 Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)

Our system of government, no matter how much we criticize it, allows people like Musk and Trump to rise up. Europe never has had that . It was always just might makes right or any deviation will be crushed right at the beginning by regulations.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:53 PM (KDPiq)

97 What are all those coffee cups doing up there? Don't they have any trashcans?

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:53 PM (RuTUS)

98
Israel has done an exercise assuming that something terrible happens in Europe, and tens of thousands of European Jews all suddenly want to immigrate to Israel at once.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)

_________

Europe has 85% fewer Jews than in 1933 and 60% fewer than in 1970.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 12:54 PM (tgvbd)

99 Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:50

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King County, which is basically Seattle, voted for a massive car registration increase to build some public transit boondoggle. IIRC it tripled the amount. And the vote was not even close it was like 70-30 in favor.

As soon as increase went into effect local news had stories of people outraged at how much they had to pay. And they did those “man on the street” interviews of people at the DMV. One guy was like I support public transportation and I voted for this but I had no idea it would be this much of an increase.

I’d bet any sum of money that the next time this come up for a vote (and it surely will for the next boondoggle) this guy will vote for it as will everyone else who complained about car registration being too high the last time.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:56 PM (SQJLY)

100 100

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:56 PM (RuTUS)

101 89
'I worked in a small blue shitty in an office park. Most of my cow-workers were leftist LIVs. '

I'm glad I don't work or live there.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (fd80v)

102 Same goes for areas here in the US not (yet) overrun with leftists. But I'd not bet on that either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (NwnyJ)

We still have Trump, and although it’s common on the right to say nothing is happening, in fact huge things are happening. The exposure of the Somali fraud, for one; and the fight with the cartels and Maduro, especially. Most don’t realize this, but this has the possibility of doing as much damage to the Leftist’s funding as taking down USAID did.

Have you not stopped and wondered why the top levels of the Left are so terrified of Trump’s efforts to actually fight the drug war?

See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants if you have any doubts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)

103
50 years ago Dad sent some money to an outfit called "National Federation of Independent Businessmen".

In the next six months his little 16 person shop was picketed by the UAW, audited by the IRS, and subject to unannounced inspection by state OSHA and Treasury departments. Company cars and trucks had to keep a mileage log of every inch covered and the Secretary of State tied them up with licencing suspensions.

Leftists are not just crooks but vindictive and creepy monsters whose game is to provoke people who disagree with them then drive them into submission.

Not taking a knee or bouncing my head on the floor. War.

Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (Y8DZL)

104 I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful.

Not entirely. Hungary is running tourism ads about being the safest place in Europe statistically because they buck the EU and don't allow Muslims.

Nayib Bukele posted a video on X of El Salvador's largest Western Hemisphere Christmas village. It's really nice, and they don't need anti-Hillary bollards to keep the Muslims out because there aren't any.

I've heard good things about Milei's Argentina as well, although I gather it's not yet as improved as El Salvador.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (QZThv)

105 It will, once again, become the roaring lion and devour it's enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Rule, Britannia!
Posted by: BrianinTn

LMAO!
I wouldn't hold my breath.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (dRZit)

106 Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.

One might even say the lights are going out all over Europe and the world. We shall not see them lit again in our lifetime.

I hope you're wrong.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Riz8t)

107 One of the most obvious cluelessness of the left in the States about cause and effect is the minimum wage. Also rent control.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (KDPiq)

108 This is what replacement theory leads to. The UK is further along than the US, but we're on the same road.

Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (ZxPkt)

109
Decline is a choice, they say, but I don't really see how it could have worked out any differently.

____________

Correlli Barnett treated this topic in a series of books. Among other factors (education system, management methods), Britain indulged itself in the pretense of empire, massive nationalization and social welfare spending after WWII instead of seeking to rebuild its outdated and inefficient industrial plant.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (tgvbd)

110 Have you not stopped and wondered why the top levels of the Left are so terrified of Trump’s efforts to actually fight the drug war?

See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants if you have any doubts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)

What letter is that?

Posted by: You haz link? at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (TbWk/)

111 I’d bet any sum of money that the next time this come up for a vote (and it surely will for the next boondoggle) this guy will vote for it as will everyone else who complained about car registration being too high the last time.

Yep. If you really drill into it with him he'd say that it was a mistake "for a good cause". And since he voted for the "good people/initiatives" obviously there won't be many future mistakes.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (sKqQm)

112 93
'Be "shocked into action", and you'll face a judge that will be imprisoning patriotic Englishmen on an assembly line.'

Their leftist judges are a nightmare version of our (already terrible) judges. The British really will have to kill them to be free.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 12:59 PM (fd80v)

113 We still have Trump, and although it’s common on the right to say nothing is happening, in fact huge things are happening.

I saw a stat the other day that Trump 2.0 is running at something like 48 regulations repealed for every 1 added, which is massive. They're doing a lot of things they don't feel the need to pick a fight with the media about.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (QZThv)

114 Naomi Wolf had an interesting post up on X - she normally takes the cheap train going to and from Washington DC, and it now a Third World train - people are blasting music from Bluetooth speakers, putting their feet up on the seats, etc.

For some reason, she decided to take a trip on the much more expensive Acela train, and it was a different world - the train was quiet, people were polite, etc.

One of the problems is that rich people in the West can insulate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs - at least for a while longer.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (xTIDn)

115 I wake up every morning and get down on my knees that my ancestors had the good sense to leave those God forsaken islands 300 years ago.

Posted by: Mike B at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (4UQhC)

116 The only thing of consequence the Royal Navy has is about a half dozen nuke armed subs. What will happen if they are under Muzzie control?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 01:01 PM (gm9Sb)

117 The left has many reasons to support the continuation of the drug epidemic:

1) They are personally getting wealthy from it since they are the political wing of the cartels

2) They are ok with this removing a non-trivial percent of the lower classes

3) Drug crime is good for terrorizing people in blue shitties to keep them supporting whatever grift/authoritarian measures local Dem government comes up with

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:01 PM (sKqQm)

118 The only thing of consequence the Royal Navy has is about a half dozen nuke armed subs. What will happen if they are under Muzzie control?

While they're fairly unreliable, I wouldn't characterize the two QEII carriers as of no consequence, especially if they're finally outfitted with a full complement of F-35s.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)

119 Naomi Wolf had an interesting post up on X - she normally takes the cheap train going to and from Washington DC, and it now a Third World train - people are blasting music from Bluetooth speakers, putting their feet up on the seats, etc.

For some reason, she decided to take a trip on the much more expensive Acela train, and it was a different world - the train was quiet, people were polite, etc.

Someone needs to put together a group yelling "racist" about that and buy the trash blacks free Acela tickets. Maybe they'd set Jake Tapper on fire.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (QZThv)

120 I don't see any Trumps or Musks rising in the rest of the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)

Interesting things are happening in that perennial backwater, South America. People there are noticing the success Milei and Bukele are having. Chile now has a conservative government, as does Bolivia, as does Honduras. If the Venezuelan anc Columbian governments were to be toppled, the entire continent may become quite friendly to us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (c7Ygk)

121 The left has many reasons to support the continuation of the drug epidemic:

4) Many of them are on the drugs. I doubt Adam Schiff's eyes were like that naturally, for instance. And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (QZThv)

122 One of the problems is that rich people in the West can insulate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs - at least for a while longer.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (xTIDn)

Like in Soylent Green. The rich lived behind high walls with security, raspberry jam, booze and prostitutes assigned to each condo. Not a bad gig.
The poors huddled in stairwells and ate the dead.

Posted by: Furniture at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

123 It is interesting to see who is crying foul when the "war on drugs" actually hits the national suppliers instead of pulling over curb-stomping middle class citizens because they somehow detected a strong odor of marijuana from 500 feet away in the patrol car with the windows rolled up, or no-knock full battle rattle SWAT raids at 0300 because they found used green tea leaves in a homeowner's trash can.

Posted by: It was mostly a war on Americans until now at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (TbWk/)

124 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)

I don't think the main reason is kick back funding. I think it's just Trump's for it, they're against it.

The older clips of the Dems pushing todo the same thing Trump is doing now supports that theory. I will agree though that there are likely more politicians on the take than ever before but it's not close to a majority.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (KDPiq)

125 I saw a stat the other day that Trump 2.0 is running at something like 48 regulations repealed for every 1 added, which is massive. They're doing a lot of things they don't feel the need to pick a fight with the media about.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:00 PM (QZThv)

I’m skeptical of this stuff. Like the 1.5 million self deportations. They sound like Obama’s jobs create or saved numbers.

Do they have an actual list of these regulations repealed? I suspect a lot of it may be duplicates. Like one regulation says a fence needs to be a minimum 6 feet tall. And another says a fence shall be no less than 6 feet tall. So they get rid of the second one. But effectively the fence still has to be 6 ft tall.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:04 PM (SQJLY)

126 Have to go outside to clean up stuff, I don't want to go outside

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (Ia/+0)

127 Kindltot mentioned that there's a trailer for

"Cold Storage" on the Book Thread.

Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1dUt1BXDjc

Based on the trailer the movie looks better than the book,

which I guess you would expect from a novel written by a screenwriter.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (iJfKG)

128 102
'See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants '

See it where?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (fd80v)

129 People there are noticing the success Milei and Bukele are having.

And it's easy to understand why they've succeeded so dramatically.
El Salvador - put the criminals in jail
Argentina - stop strangling the economy with government.

Only a leftist could fail to grasp why these things work.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (Riz8t)

130 While they're fairly unreliable, I wouldn't characterize the two QEII carriers as of no consequence, especially if they're finally outfitted with a full complement of F-35s.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)

I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (c7Ygk)

131 One of the problems is that rich people in the West can insulate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs - at least for a while longer.

I watched a video the other day arguing much of what the left does is ultimately in the name of mate suppression - stopping other people from having kids.

Traditionally this is a type of conflict engaged in by women (as opposed to more open violence) so...it would certainly fit as a reason for the upper class left intentionally making life so hard for middle/lower class Americans.

And I am reminded years ago sitting in a town meeting in a blue town I lived in where one upper class, under employed leftist hausfrau announced that of course everyone has time to sort and wash their trash to recycle it*. Well...she does apparently. What about someone working two jobs to pay all the taxes our hausfrau and her friend's have mandated?

*A couple of years later a study found that recycling went into the same landfill as the trash.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:05 PM (sKqQm)

132 I don't see any Trumps or Musks rising in the rest of the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)

Milei and Buekele might disagree with you.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (SQJLY)

133 And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.

Probably Bondo.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (Riz8t)

134 118 Forgot about those. Having a love affair with the F35 now that training is going full blast around here. The Polish pilots seemed to be Sierra Hotel, and the Finns arrive next month. Gosh, the F35s are loud.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (gm9Sb)

135 121 The left has many reasons to support the continuation of the drug epidemic:

4) Many of them are on the drugs. I doubt Adam Schiff's eyes were like that naturally, for instance. And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:03 PM (QZThv)

China's responsible for a lot of the fentanyl, and a lot of the left's politicians are sucking Chinese dick for campaign money and shady business investments.

Posted by: Don't bite the micropeen that feeds you at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (TbWk/)

136 Chile now has a conservative government, as does Bolivia, as does Honduras. If the Venezuelan anc Columbian governments were to be toppled, the entire continent may become quite friendly to us.

And it provides an increasing number of good bug-out spots that are relatively convenient to run to should the Democrats get "our democracy". Plus, big-booty Latinas.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (QZThv)

137 I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell.

Posted by: Tom Servo

If John Deere can do it, Boeing can do it.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:07 PM (Riz8t)

138 Their leftist judges are a nightmare version of our (already terrible) judges. The British really will have to kill them to be free.

The Ruling Class has a great advantage here - they can try cases in Washington DC, where a jury will never acquit a Republican or convict a Democrat.

Apparently Britain doesn't have an court like that, so they have to formally abolish jury trials.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (xTIDn)

139 Is Hungary the only eastern euro country holding the fort on muzzie invaders? How’s Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, Croatia, etc. You never hear much about them. Other than Romanias election being nullified.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (SQJLY)

140 What are all those coffee cups doing up there? Don't they have any trashcans?

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 12:53 PM (RuTUS)

Yes, they do, but their Islamist mayor is too busy criticizing America and Israel to get the trash picked up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (n9ltV)

141 El Salvador - put the criminals in jail

This one is almost comical when you think about it

*All* the research shows that crime is not a one off or "I have to get bread for my kids" thing. It is people starting small and doing worse and worse things as there are no consequences for it.

And then we ran this as a nationwide study. In the 60s and 70s we reduced prison time. And crime exploded. Then in the late 80s/90s we increased prison time and crime went down.

I mean this should be obvious - you can't mug dozens of people if you are in jail for years after you mug the first one - but every study of any sort has backed up this basic though process.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:09 PM (sKqQm)

142 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:08 PM (SQJLY)

Poland.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 01:09 PM (n9ltV)

143 The UK forgot everything learned in the 1980s.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:09 PM (6KcYW)

144 137 I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell.

Posted by: Tom Servo

If John Deere can do it, Boeing can do it.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:07 PM (Riz8t)

They'll put EA's coders on it and keeping it airborne will require a microtransaction every three minutes.

Posted by: You are about to crash! Deposit another $800k at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (TbWk/)

145 I thought Poland voted out conservatives last year, or maybe 2 years ago? And the new pro-EU govt opened the doors.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (SQJLY)

146 138
'The Ruling Class has a great advantage here - they can try cases in Washington DC, where a jury will never acquit a Republican or convict a Democrat.'

That's an unfair advantage that needs to go away.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (fd80v)

147 China's responsible for a lot of the fentanyl, and a lot of the left's politicians are sucking Chinese dick for campaign money and shady business investments.

For how much the FNM talks about divided loyalties when it comes to Jewish pundits/pols it does amaze me that there is no care whatsoever with pols on the dole from Europe or hell China.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (sKqQm)

148 And then we ran this as a nationwide study. In the 60s and 70s we reduced prison time. And crime exploded. Then in the late 80s/90s we increased prison time and crime went down.

I tell my daughters this every time they wonder why crime is increasing. I'm an experimentalist, and we've already run the experiment. It was conclusive.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Riz8t)

149 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)

150 I thought Poland voted out conservatives last year, or maybe 2 years ago? And the new pro-EU govt opened the doors.

Was it the left stole a PM election but then the right won the presidential election or something like that?

I remember headlines about the leftwing Polish government arresting right leaning pols for being right leaning.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:11 PM (sKqQm)

151 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)

I’ll never forgive the Germans.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:11 PM (SQJLY)

152 I tell my daughters this every time they wonder why crime is increasing. I'm an experimentalist, and we've already run the experiment. It was conclusive.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Riz8t)

Like, Enlightment empiricism is sooooo five minutes ago!

Posted by: Just old dead white men! Literally shaking! at December 07, 2025 01:13 PM (TbWk/)

153 And lord knows what they're juicing Biden with now.

Probably Bondo.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:06 PM (Riz8t)
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Break out the 80-grit sandpaper.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 01:13 PM (0cOaq)

154 >>Our system of government, no matter how much we criticize it, allows people like Musk and Trump to rise up. Europe never has had that . It was always just might makes right or any deviation will be crushed right at the beginning by regulations.

They tried for 10 years to throw Trump in prison and when that failed they tried to kill him. Twice. We are only in this place because Trump turned his head.

The left loved Musk until he bought Twitter. They've been going after him ever since. No doubt we are unique in a lot ways that makes this country what it is but we came within a RCH of going down the same road as the rest of the west and it wasn't just our unique nature that made it possible for us to turn the tide. It was because of a handful of indispensable people as it always is.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:13 PM (viF8m)

155 If the Venezuelan anc Columbian governments were to be toppled, the entire continent may become quite friendly to us.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Communist Brazil just threw the last free President in jail.

Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 01:14 PM (Y8DZL)

156 Was it the left stole a PM election but then the right won the presidential election or something like that?

I remember headlines about the leftwing Polish government arresting right leaning pols for being right leaning.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:11 PM (sKqQm)

I’ll be honest and say I didn’t really follow it all that closely. I do remember there was a big election between the pro-EU side and the nationalist side that got some coverage on this side of the pond. The EU side won. And IIRC immigration was the big issue and the EU side wanted more of it. So I assumed if they won that means Muzzies were welcomed in.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:14 PM (SQJLY)

157 but we came within a RCH of going down the same road as the rest of the west

Kamala's people were talking about extraditing people to Britain to face charges for violating their speech laws.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:14 PM (sKqQm)

158 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
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My Dad was listening to the radio while working on his car.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (0cOaq)

159 If I had the money, I'd like to try an experiment.

In areas with significant Muslim populations, set up daily ad buys for a month at 10 PM. It would show a mosque, and ask "It's 10 PM. Do you know where your goats, slaves, and child brides are?", in Arabic, Somali, then English. The Arabic text would be written on the screen in the TV ads. Radio ads would just have the spoken text.

Would they get run?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (S/Y4j)

160 I thought Poland voted out conservatives last year, or maybe 2 years ago? And the new pro-EU govt opened the doors.

The ruling party in Poland would like to have mass immigration, but they realize that they will be voted out of office if they try.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (xTIDn)

161 Venezuela’s former spy chief Hugo Carvajal has penned a damning letter linking Maduro’s regime to a vast effort to undermine the US. I don’t have tinyurl handy atm, but search for Hugo Carvajal Dallas Express. Many other outlets have now picked it up and run it. The gatekeepers of course are trying to figure out how to suppress it, but too late.

It justifies every step Trump has taken, and more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:16 PM (c7Ygk)

162 (Insty)
DAN HANNAN: Not all immigrants are equal.

Minnesota may be the single largest source of funds for the Somali terrorist organization al Shabaab...Minnesotan taxpayers may, in effect, be simultaneously funding several sides in Somalia’s civil war.

This is a reminder that not all cultures are equal. Minnesota‘s political structures were designed for Scandinavians, who are famously industrious, with a high level of social trust that has allowed them to sustain ambitious welfare programs with little abuse...

It turns out that Somalis do not respond to such schemes in the way that Swedes do. Instead of simply over-claiming, as your unambitious American fraudster might, locals set up bogus companies to make fictitious claims running into hundreds of millions of dollars. Some of the money went on cars and holidays, but a chunk found its way to al Qaeda-aligned Islamists in Somalia, where remittances from overseas amount to a larger sum than the state budget.

I tried and tried to tell my MN relatives this but they simply refused to listen.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:17 PM (Riz8t)

163 Have you not stopped and wondered why the top levels of the Left are so terrified of Trump’s efforts to actually fight the drug war?

See the letter recently released from one of Maduro’s top lieutenants if you have any doubts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 12:57 PM (c7Ygk)

I have no doubt a shit-ton of drug money makes its way into political coffers. In 1989, the estimated cartel annual take was $200 Billion. If you assume even 10% goes to payoff, that's a lot of money to spread around DEA, judges, police, and politicians. It is easily double that today.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (2WIwB)

164 For how much the FNM talks about divided loyalties when it comes to Jewish pundits/pols it does amaze me that there is no care whatsoever with pols on the dole from Europe or hell China.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (sKqQm)

Yup. Antisemitism has become cool again, plus it serves as a convenient distraction from the foreign powers who are actually corrupting our politics - which China has been doing since at least Clinton, who sold out to them faster than Kamala going down at a Willie Brown sex party.

Posted by: And Nixon was a fool at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)

165 They are closely allied with Soros and the Eurotrash establishment. They may be the last to fall, but when they do, they will fall hard.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (c7Ygk)

166 >>Milei and Buekele might disagree with you.

When El Salvador and Argentina change the world let me know.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (viF8m)

167
What people seem to forget is the warlike nature of islam, once they gain a significant foothold in a European country,

there will be violence and murder until they win or are defeated.

Once they win that country they will attack the countries next door.

Once Europe in total falls next comes the Americas or Asia.

I believe we're (the world) facing a hundred or so years of brutal warfare simply because the Left and WEF have let islam out of it's geographic prison to destroy.

Wheeeeeeee!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (iJfKG)

168 Who watches television at 10 pm?
The hotel lobby? The nursing home? The airport?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (XQo4F)

169 'The Ruling Class has a great advantage here - they can try cases in Washington DC, where a jury will never acquit a Republican or convict a Democrat.'

That's an unfair advantage that needs to go away.

The Constitution says that Federal trials have to occur in the State where the act being litigated took place, but that Congress can determine where to try acts that didn't occur in a State.

DC isn't a state.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (xTIDn)

170 I have no doubt a shit-ton of drug money makes its way into political coffers. In 1989, the estimated cartel annual take was $200 Billion. If you assume even 10% goes to payoff, that's a lot of money to spread around DEA, judges, police, and politicians. It is easily double that today.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:18 PM (2WIwB)

The former CEO of the DEA under Obama was just indicted for setting up a money laundering scheme for the cartels, directly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (c7Ygk)

171 161 Venezuela’s former spy chief Hugo Carvajal has penned a damning letter linking Maduro’s regime to a vast effort to undermine the US. I don’t have tinyurl handy atm, but search for Hugo Carvajal Dallas Express. Many other outlets have now picked it up and run it. The gatekeepers of course are trying to figure out how to suppress it, but too late.

It justifies every step Trump has taken, and more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:16 PM (c7Ygk)

Gotcha. Think I read an article about that recently.

Posted by: Narco states Commies and Muslims oh my! at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (TbWk/)

172 In areas with significant Muslim populations, set up daily ad buys for a month at 10 PM. It would show a mosque, and ask "It's 10 PM. Do you know where your goats, slaves, and child brides are?", in Arabic, Somali, then English. The Arabic text would be written on the screen in the TV ads. Radio ads would just have the spoken text.

Would they get run?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (S/Y4j)

You would be arrested. In the UK especially.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (6KcYW)

173 The Constitution says that Federal trials have to occur in the State where the act being litigated took place, but that Congress can determine where to try acts that didn't occur in a State.

DC isn't a state.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (xTIDn)

NoVa is across the river and as left wing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:21 PM (SQJLY)

174 I won't be happy until May

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 01:21 PM (Ia/+0)

175 When El Salvador and Argentina change the world let me know.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (viF8m)

An avalanche always starts with just a few pebbles.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:21 PM (c7Ygk)

176 Y'all aint seen shit.

Posted by: Austin Friars at December 07, 2025 01:21 PM (03GBw)

177 The former CEO of the DEA under Obama was just indicted for setting up a money laundering scheme for the cartels, directly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:20 PM (c7Ygk)

Yup.
Got a bit sloppy.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:22 PM (2WIwB)

178 The United Kingdom's Existential Crisis
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Once upon a time, this could have been a FWP thread.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 01:22 PM (LdSJK)

179 >>An avalanche always starts with just a few pebbles.

We are the avalanche.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:22 PM (viF8m)

180 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)

181 167
What people seem to forget is the warlike nature of islam, once they gain a significant foothold in a European country,

there will be violence and murder until they win or are defeated.

Once they win that country they will attack the countries next door.

Once Europe in total falls next comes the Americas or Asia.

I believe we're (the world) facing a hundred or so years of brutal warfare simply because the Left and WEF have let islam out of it's geographic prison to destroy.

Wheeeeeeee!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (

Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us. (H/t, RWP)

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (6KcYW)

182 When El Salvador and Argentina change the world let me know.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:19 PM (viF8m)

1000 mile journey starts with 1 step and all that.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (SQJLY)

183 NoVa is across the river and as left wing.

Congress could decide that political trials for acts occurring in DC be tried in rural Wyoming.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (xTIDn)

184 An avalanche always starts with just a few pebbles.

Ah, grasshopper...

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (Riz8t)

185 180 Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)

I agree.

Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (6KcYW)

186 169
'The Constitution says that Federal trials have to occur in the State where the act being litigated took place, but that Congress can determine where to try acts that didn't occur in a State.'

This doesn't change my opinion. I'm not bound by a rigged system. No one else should be either.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (fd80v)

187 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)

Dad was on his sub, the Cachalot. Mom was waving at the planes flying over.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:24 PM (2WIwB)

188 Snort.

Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:25 PM (XQo4F)

189 Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)

I agree.

Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that

You're both wrong, and ignorant sluts to boot.

Posted by: That abusive guy who always adopts the contrary position at December 07, 2025 01:25 PM (Riz8t)

190 I don’t understand British politics but how is that Labour is still in charge when they haven’t won a majority in… how long?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 07, 2025 12:16 PM

Yes, the Labour Party won a clear majority in the 2024 UK general election, securing 412 seats in the House of Commons and forming the government under Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

The election on July 4, 2024, ended 14 years of Conservative rule. Labour's 412 seats gave them a majority of 174 over the 326 needed for an absolute majority in the 650-seat Commons (with the remaining seats going to other parties, including 121 for the Conservatives). This was Labour's biggest seat win since 1997, despite their vote share of about 33.7% being the lowest for any majority government in modern UK history. The result stemmed largely from anti-Conservative sentiment amid economic issues and party infighting, with turnout at 60% — the second-lowest since 1885.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:26 PM (P5BPp)

191 Britain is long lost.

Two world wars. For naught.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 07, 2025 01:27 PM (1Nv0l)

192 181
' (H/t, RWP)'

Roadway Workers' Protection?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 07, 2025 01:27 PM (fd80v)

193 Congress could decide that political trials for acts occurring in DC be tried in rural Wyoming.

West Virginia is (relatively) right there.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 01:28 PM (QZThv)

194 H.L Mencken said that English cooking was only one step removed from cannibalism. I assume the cuisine, at least, has improved since those days.

Posted by: Paco at December 07, 2025 01:28 PM (mADJX)

195
76 If Farage can win a majority next election there may be a sliver of hope. The polls say it’s likely. But the next election is several years away which is a lifetime in politics.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:42 PM (SQJLY)

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Farage and the Reform Party are not willing to do what's required to fix Britain. They just don't have it in them.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 01:28 PM (VWtfl)

196 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.

Historical oddity - the reporter who broke the story that Pearl Harbor was being bombed was in Chicago. He was at a police station on a slow Sunday, the desk sergeant had a ham radio, and they heard a ham radio operator describing the bombing, and you could hear the explosions in the background.

One of the stranger achievements of the famed City News Bureau of Chicago.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:29 PM (xTIDn)

197 Did Sweeny really capitulate to Babylon?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:31 PM (VPtfc)

198 You are a fucking retard!

Never go full MN Governor.

Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (FhXTo)

199 >>The former CEO of the DEA under Obama was just indicted for setting up a money laundering scheme for the cartels, directly

Afghanistan has a lot of nothing other than poppy plants. Oddly, the Golden Triangle was also a hot spot for the CIA during the Vietnam war.

Funny how wherever the CIA gets involved drug trafficking is in the mix.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (viF8m)

200 20 The parliamentary system stinks quite frankly
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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National party lists control who gets into Parliament on because voters have to vote for those party reps on the list. Thus you have the Uniparty of Tories and Labour with minor influence from the Liberal Democrats having an iron clad grip on politicians with ambitions.

Cabinet's joint responsibility further weakens the outsider, disruptor, etc. because such people are not tolerated long in a ministerial role as not being loyal to the party and the PM. The House of Lords, unlike the US, serves on a ceremonial presence as does the King and/or Queen. So party apparatchiks have run the UK since at least Queen Victoria's age, and somewhat before even that. Most of Euroland duplicates this wretched system in some cases made even worse by Proportional Representation so you end up with no one in charge so everyone can avoid blame for bad committee decisions.

Aristotle's tyranny of the oligarchy (aristocrats/nobility in his age--pols/wealthy/celebritards in this one) which usually degrades into despotism (rule by one) or anarchy aka pure democracy then despotism.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (WDjG6)

201 " I trust Boeing to have secret kill switches hidden in the software and firmware of every F-35 we sell."
Posted by: Tom Servo

Rumor is that China also has "kill switches" that would disable many US products, just by sending a signal. Ham radios for example ...

Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (vbXSk)

202 Wasn't someone interesting running for Minneapolis Governor?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VPtfc)

203 Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)

I agree.

Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that

You're both wrong, and ignorant sluts to boot.
Posted by: That abusive guy
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Tut, tut...

Posted by: That guy who recalls the lecture that we received from Ace re: collegiality at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (XeU6L)

204 The My Pillow guy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (VPtfc)

205 LIBs. Demand that the Department of War, now, sponsor and Defend our Adversaries because it threaten the supply-chain of laundered drug money that sustains their candidates, campaigns, and policies.

https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-AmericaHazProblem
Jaimie Dimon complains about Europe having a problem.

Indeed. Look who's talkin', he's America's problem skating away scot-free from Epstein's JeffMas-Tree mess arriving SOON!

Jamie Dimon: Our Investments for National Security
JPMorganChase plans a 10-year, $1.5 trillion initiative to shore up America’s resiliency, the last refuge of the Epstein-profiteer/Scoundrel, who not only enabled the Desperate and Deliberately Guilty, but made 300% profit off of it.

OFF COURSE he's willing *now* to give some of it back... Justice is Cash-Flow. Making Fentanyl Great Again!

https://tinyurl.com/LIBs-WhatPriceTheirVision
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-RememberThisWell
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-LIBsTheChickenRun

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (hODP+)

206 Wasn't someone interesting running for Minneapolis Governor?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VPtfc)

*shifty eyes*
Ppppsssstttt...
Hey...wanna buy a pillow?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (2WIwB)

207 And they saw an economic system that was stacked against them, without any way to change it."

So, feudalism. It's human nature...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:35 PM (XuXeR)

208
Will the UK crash so quickly that the Labor Party has to call an election before that?

_________

Labour has - what? - 400 seats in this Parliament. An enormous majority over all other parties. Unless there's a major rebellion within Labour, the chances of an election before 2029 are less than zero.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:35 PM (tgvbd)

209 202 Wasn't someone interesting running for Minneapolis Governor?
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VPtfc)

The Republicans have realized that there’s a chance for a really strong GOP candidate to win this time.

So they’re running Mike Lindell.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:36 PM (c7Ygk)

210 George Washington was once faced with mutiny. The men reasoned they were not getting paid, and the war was dragging on under tough conditions. So Washington sent a contingent of soldiers from his headquarters to confront the mutineers. They identified the mutinous leader, stood him up, and had the rest of the mutineers shoot him whilst the headquarters contingent pointed their muskets at them.

War is hell, and few have the stomach for it, especially over the long term. Change, before you get to that point is by comparison easy.

Use the auspices of government, and especially the rights you’ve been granted to invoke the necessary change that avoids conflict. Get off your ass, put down the phone, put off every other priority, get involved and vote.

Change doesn’t come from just the other guy, it comes from you. And if you value liberty and a pleasant future for your family, you will heed tha advice.

Posted by: Marcus t at December 07, 2025 01:37 PM (IfQzb)

211 thought Poland voted "

Yeah, sure. Who counts the votes...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:38 PM (XuXeR)

212 Farage and the Reform Party are not willing to do what's required to fix Britain. They just don't have it in them.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Not sure that most of our current political types in the West have it in them as leaders that climb the greasy pole of electoral politics are seldom the smiting tyrants often needed to reboot the system.

What do you do when at least 40-50 percent of the country do not agree on key matters to reform--at that point electoral politics breaks down because society cannot agree upon the radical solutions needed. Late Soviet Union was that way--it failed from internal collapse and Yeltsin's drunken antics as leader led directly to Putin to sort out the oligarchs, public, etc.

Sometimes being soundly defeated in a war leads to the entire leadership structure being decapitated (see Israel v. Babylon) and being replaced by governance of other nations from far away.

We and the West are not exempt from history's march no matter what idiocy Fukiyama published.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:38 PM (WDjG6)

213 We and the West are not exempt from history's march no matter what idiocy Fukiyama published."

Very well said.

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:39 PM (XuXeR)

214
They identified the mutinous leader, stood him up, and had the rest of the mutineers shoot him whilst the headquarters contingent pointed their muskets at them.

___________

Discipline is preserved, sir!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:39 PM (tgvbd)

215 Labour has - what? - 400 seats in this Parliament. An enormous majority over all other parties. Unless there's a major rebellion within Labour, the chances of an election before 2029 are less than zero.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

In a national party system, retaliation is harsh on defectors. Far more likely Starmer is canned and done in by one of his political rivals in Labour.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:39 PM (WDjG6)

216 They killed off most of their warriors in WWI. WWII got the ones left. We've lost a number of our warriors in pointless little wars.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 01:40 PM (+mUZM)

217 Laddie, you're right about the formerly 'Great' Britain ever having that descriptor place before its name again … The Second Moorish Invasion has been the success the first one wasn't.

Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 01:40 PM (ayRl+)

218 Funny how wherever the CIA gets involved drug trafficking is in the mix.
Posted by: JackStraw
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To quote Cyndi Lauper, sage, "Money changes everything."

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:41 PM (WDjG6)

219 Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at December 07, 2025 01:23 PM (XQo4F)

I agree.

Posted by: The person that always agrees with the person who always says that

You're both wrong, and ignorant sluts to boot.
Posted by: That abusive guy
-------

Tut, tut...
Posted by: That guy who recalls the lecture that we received from Ace re: collegiality at December 07, 2025 01:34 PM (XeU6L)
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And so it begins.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at December 07, 2025 01:42 PM (0cOaq)

220 For the longest time it seemed Canada would bounce the liberals. And then they didn’t.

Brits say they want labour out but do the really?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 01:43 PM (SQJLY)

221 The Second Moorish Invasion has been the success the first one wasn't."

A vigorous, outward looking ideology will always overcome the navel gazing, self absorbed, and unmotivated...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:44 PM (XuXeR)

222
116 The only thing of consequence the Royal Navy has is about a half dozen nuke armed subs. What will happen if they are under Muzzie control?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 07, 2025 01:01 PM (gm9Sb)

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I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarines.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (VWtfl)

223 >> Discipline is preserved, sir!

Most people have not idea how brutal and unforgiving war is. They have almost no appreciation for it, yet many of those same people drag us towards it.

Von Clausewitz wasn’t explicit enough. war isn’t just the continuation of politics by other means. That means is to murder as many of the other guy as brutally and mercilessly as you can until he surrenders.

Posted by: Marcus t at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (IfQzb)

224 Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us. (H/t, RWP)
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Yep. Good point.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (WDjG6)

225 >>To quote Cyndi Lauper, sage, "Money changes everything."

The CIA is a largely self-funding criminal organization. The good it does is incidental to the amount of damage it does on purpose.

They seem to believe they are uniquely charged with running the world regardless of the will of the people they supposedly serve.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 01:46 PM (viF8m)

226
They killed off most of their warriors in WWI. WWII got the ones left. We've lost a number of our warriors in pointless little wars.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2025 01:40 PM (+mUZM)

____________

That keeps getting repeated, but I've never believed it. Germany and Russia also had huge numbers killed in WWII but both rebuilt themselves. Britain didn't want to make the hard decisions after the war to reform its economy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:46 PM (tgvbd)

227 I have no doubt the Labour Party Propaganda Ministry has complete sway over t he narrative just as here the Democrats/ Marxists Propaganda Ministry does

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 01:47 PM (Ia/+0)

228 220 For the longest time it seemed Canada would bounce the liberals. And then they didn’t.

Brits say they want labour out but do the really?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

To do what must be done requires a strong stomach--to sink the boats, to end the 'free' healthcare complex, to end the free 'bennies', housing, etc.

Mentally the people in the UK and Canada have to reboot themselves as sovereign citizens, not as subject to the government begging for a cup o' gruel.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:47 PM (WDjG6)

229 Unless there's a major rebellion within Labour, the chances of an election before 2029 are less than zero.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 01:35 PM (tgvbd)

It is possible that the Labor MPs will see that 2029 will be a bloodbath, and hope that if they call an election sooner, that they can save their own seats.

Unlikely, but that's probably the only way it could happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 01:48 PM (n9ltV)

230 The National Razor is rusting.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:49 PM (VPtfc)

231 This year Brattleboro FART Tubes will has Presdent Obama and Micheale Obama picture on then. Hurry and gets yours before they be sells our. Only $39 per FART Tube this year. Happy Kawanza to to all.

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 07, 2025 01:51 PM (0IwHf)

232 Who watched PF’s Money video this morning? The Brits have been hankering for communism for a long time.

Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 01:51 PM (8jVAy)

233 I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarine"

King's Bay is in Georgia... FWIW, the RN hasn't successfully launched anything more than an old jaguar * in years...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (XuXeR)

234 >I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarines.
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I hoped there's a plan to seize them before the mohammedans take over

and the Royal Family better have a bugout plan

Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (ZxPkt)

235 The CIA is a largely self-funding criminal organization. The good it does is incidental to the amount of damage it does on purpose.

They seem to believe they are uniquely charged with running the world regardless of the will of the people they supposedly serve.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Always some part of the population that wants to be secret kings hiding in plain sight amidst an institution while playing out their revenge and fantasy of power role plays. Backstabbers, blackmailers, liars, and manipulators that believe themselves to be Nietzsche's Superman--beyond good and evil.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (WDjG6)

236 Not to be outdone by Mike Lindell, the Shamwow guy is running as a republican for a Texas congressional seat.
- not a joke.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2025 01:52 PM (c7Ygk)

237 Backstabbers, blackmailers, liars, and manipulators"

You left out Methodists...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:53 PM (XuXeR)

238 227 I have no doubt the Labour Party Propaganda Ministry has complete sway over t he narrative just as here the Democrats/ Marxists Propaganda Ministry does
Posted by: Skip

For old people probably just like the US but X is now the leading source of news in about 14 European countries now. There is a reason that EU and Euro governments want that shut off as well as the internet as well.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:54 PM (WDjG6)

239 I could never vote for a Babylonian.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:54 PM (VPtfc)

240 I have no crystal ball, but if I were a betting man I would bet against Britain ever becoming Great again.

As a government and a nation, the poncy Limeys need to pay attention to their own business rather than sticking their noses in the US elections and US domestic affairs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2025 01:54 PM (Hx3bp)

241 I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful. Now more than ever we are the exception not the rule.

Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2025 12:23 PM

The USA is the exception through January 2029. Beyond that, who knows. And short of deporting all Muslims, banning them from ever returning, shutting down all H1B and OPT corruption and all outsourcing to India corruption, the USA is always on the brink of turning into Europe. As we all saw during COVID.

The USA is a country irrevocably divided. And a house divided cannot stand. This is not a country of Americans who have reasonable disagreements on how best to make America great for Americans. This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)

242 237 Backstabbers, blackmailers, liars, and manipulators"

You left out Methodists...
Posted by: man

The type I am talking about consider themselves as their own god which is why they can do such appalling things. To them, other people's lives are not important compared to the power hungry type's desires so if sausage needs to be made, then these types figure themselves at the crank turning it.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:56 PM (WDjG6)

243 Darkness? Is it 5:30 Again?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:57 PM (VPtfc)

244 Look at the lefts reaction to Somalis stealing billions in Minnesota. We’re the bad guys for noticing. They’re the real victims dontchaknow?

No different than Brits who thinks rape gangs are no biggie because it’s their culture. You’re the bad guy for noticing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 12:48 PM (SQJLY)
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Yeah, I think the Somali thing isn't going away quite so easily. The NYT realizes there is a problem. And as we go after the illegal alien hispanic gang thugs, it will be quite easy to go after the same in the islamic community. Minnesota just gave the feds license to start taking out the terrorist aligned islamic trash.

Posted by: Black JEM at December 07, 2025 01:57 PM (UVyKP)

245 I spent many years traveling around the world and the direction the west was going was obvious over a decade ago to anyone who paid attention. It's not a conspiracy theory or some cosmic coincidence, it's a plan. And outside of countries run by Donald Trump its been wildly successful. Now more than ever we are the exception not the rule.

Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent."

Buy ammo.

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 01:58 PM (XuXeR)

246 The USA is a country irrevocably divided. And a house divided cannot stand. This is not a country of Americans who have reasonable disagreements on how best to make America great for Americans. This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)

Bingo. Basically good verses evil.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 01:59 PM (snZF9)

247 Does that trashcan have a lock on it?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 01:59 PM (VPtfc)

248 You can clown on Mike Lindell, but in Minnesota he's as good of a Republican candidate as any of the more-credentialed cucks that might run. The state party apparatus, like in many other states, is DOA.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:00 PM (QZThv)

249 Sunset is 5:01 here.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:00 PM (VPtfc)

250 which is why they can do such appalling things."

I joke because the alternative is...

And those people don't see their actions as appalling... in fact, they see such actions as the greater good...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:00 PM (XuXeR)

251 1ST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:01 PM (Ia/+0)

252 This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.

And as I like to point out, the retards behind that agenda assume the average post-WW2 prosperity up to now as the baseline that's the fundamental load-bearer for the rest of their agenda. Surely nothing they want to do will affect that, right?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (QZThv)

253 The USA is a country irrevocably divided."

Like, say, April 1861?

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (XuXeR)

254 As a government and a nation, the poncy Limeys need to pay attention to their own business rather than sticking their noses in the US elections and US domestic affairs.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

The very people doing that are a deracinated cosmopolitan populace that view their own fellow citizens as trash not fit to rule as the so called elite are. Thus, you get the EU which is a degenerate multinational empire emulating some of the worst features of the later Soviet Union.

Tom Friedman, for example, with his book, The World is Flat, propounds this viewpoint where these types see only their slice of reality emulated across the globe in enclaves where similar looters and wreckers of nations exist. For example, Mamdani's pampered Ugandan upbringing was nothing like the average African. A five star resort in the Seychelles resembles a similar one in Tahiti far more than either of them resemble the average person's lives in those isles. Etc. Etc.

Another term for these types is cloud people--they essentially float above the average concerns of individuals leaving them to concentrate on power and wealth accumulation. That is why our pols want generational wealth-to join them.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (WDjG6)

255 This year Brattleboro FART Tubes will has Presdent Obama and Micheale Obama picture on then. Hurry and gets yours before they be sells our. Only $39 per FART Tube this year. Happy Kawanza to to all.
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein
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I point out, again, That Obama Chia Pets are still available. I've actually been tempted to acquire one. There's something symbolic about it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 02:03 PM (XeU6L)

256 Carrying-on from the Book Thread:
“My job as Vice President is NOT to look out for the interests of the whole world. It's my job to look out for the people of the United States.”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)

If the world's media could figure out that they do not represent the moral order of the universe we might actually get somewhere.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 07, 2025 11:42 AM (6ydKt)

I saw a video clip where some pasty white FNM hack "ask" Karoline Leavitt about why she had said that the Trump Admin saw it as important to preserve the American culture, and not import wholesale people that did not want to assimilate. He implied that it was racist against refugees!!! because his grandparents were refugees from war (I assume WWII).

Her answer was fine, but it did occur to me that she should have made the point that his grandparents were obviously European, and appeared to assimilated successfully into American society since he was sitting in the WH Press Briefing Room.

It would have been amusing if she had asked him how much money his grandparents had obtained fraudulently from the U.S. tax payers.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (pJWtt)

257 Rumor is that China also has "kill switches" that would disable many US products, just by sending a signal. Ham radios for example ...
Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2025 01:32 PM (vbXSk)

Vacuum tubes for the win. Easy to design and build from stuff we electronic nerds have laying around in our junk boxes.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (5xuJ/)

258 Tolkien predicted much of this, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (quqPW)

259 The USA is a country irrevocably divided. And a house divided cannot stand. This is not a country of Americans who have reasonable disagreements on how best to make America great for Americans. This is a nation with divided between people who want to make America great for Americans and people who want to destroy America and rebuild it as a socialist "utopia" using the WEF agenda.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)
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I appreciate the argument, but I can't accept it. The USA has always been divided, even at the time of the revolution.
What gives me hope is that much like 250 years ago, increasingly the best and brightest are rallying to the American ideal. And that ideal is greater than anything, even the march of islam. There are way too many people who see what is happening. They will rally here.

Posted by: Black JEM at December 07, 2025 02:23 PM (UVyKP)

260 The UK is hosed if they do not put into place permanent Civil Service reform. The elections do not matter any more because the Civil Service is their Deep State Blob on steroids. Even if a super-charismatic, ultra-conservative were to become PM, the Civil Service would engage in all manner of deception, sabotage, and outright sedition to prevent change. It seems to be the central demon of the problem.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (mlg/3)

261 Nayib Bukele posted a video on X of El Salvador's largest Western Hemisphere Christmas village. It's really nice, and they don't need anti-Hillary bollards to keep the Muslims out because there aren't any.

I've heard good things about Milei's Argentina as well, although I gather it's not yet as improved as El Salvador.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 12:58 PM (QZThv)

IIRC, Nayib Bukele is himself a muslim, bit one of the non-militant kinds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (npFr7)

262 Crown, Crescent and Pitchfork.
One guys take on what might be next for the UK. Low grade civil war.

https://tinyurl.com/yhd9jjtn

Posted by: Strelnikov at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (LrEPG)

263 We'll just have to prove you wrong.

Posted by: STV at December 07, 2025 03:06 PM (XMeSM)

264 Darkness is descending on much of the world and they only way out is going to be violent.

Posted by: JackStraw

Who would have thought George W. Bush's to 9-11 of declaring it a "religion of peace" and flooding the western world was a bad idea.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 03:07 PM (/lPRQ)

265 To do what must be done requires a strong stomach--to sink the boats, to end the 'free' healthcare complex, to end the free 'bennies', housing, etc.

Mentally the people in the UK and Canada have to reboot themselves as sovereign citizens, not as subject to the government begging for a cup o' gruel.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2025 01:47 PM (WDjG6)

The citizens of both countries, but especially Canada, very, very, very, very, very cheerfully acquiesced in the destruction of their liberty, just so they could get the services of a doctor for "free". Canada in particular is full of people who are unfit to be free and are incapable of self-government (h/t, TX Dec. of Ind., 1836) I suppose the subjects in both countries can reboot themselves mentally as you say...but, WILL they? Doubtful.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 03:09 PM (4786I)

266 I believe that the US actually owns the missiles and warheads on those submarines.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 01:45 PM (VWtfl)

Nope. American made. Not American owned.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 03:11 PM (4786I)

267 158 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 07, 2025 01:10 PM (6KcYW)
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My Dad was listening to the radio while working on his car.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM (0cOaq)

196 84 years ago, the bombs were falling on Pearl.

Historical oddity - the reporter who broke the story that Pearl Harbor was being bombed was in Chicago. He was at a police station on a slow Sunday, the desk sergeant had a ham radio, and they heard a ham radio operator describing the bombing, and you could hear the explosions in the background.

One of the stranger achievements of the famed City News Bureau of Chicago.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:29 PM (xTIDn)

Wonderful stuff.

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 03:48 PM (RuTUS)

268 Will Nigel Farage be able to fight the structural and political impediments to a Reform Party win in the next elections almost four years from now?

Win, yes. Save Britain, no.

I still believe that Farage is the Deep State's fallback position.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 07, 2025 04:09 PM (jc0TO)

269 Is this Weimar Germany in the 21st century?

Maybe it's England of the 17th & 18th century. Will this new(er) crop flee the tyranny, even as their forefathers did?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 07, 2025 04:21 PM (bufu1)

270 WW1 was fought due to the egos of a nepotistic elite for no good reason and none of them had any idea what would happen. Then they bungled the peace which led to the rise of Hitler which led to a necessary war. All the destruction and loss of valuable population led to them losing the resources to do the things that made them powerful. But guess what? The descendants of those nepo elite are still rich and comfortable and even more incompetant.

Posted by: Azjaeger at December 07, 2025 04:24 PM (3/XaG)

271 Visited England in 1996. I was there during Euro 96, and the 1996 Manchester bombing. Garbage cans/waste receptacles were few and far between. There were garbage cans on the Underground, with the lids welded shut. it took me a while to realize the lack of garbage cans was to remove places to put bombs.

Posted by: Nancy@7000ft at December 07, 2025 05:41 PM (wYaAc)

272 On most strategic metrices the UK is not nearly as crap as the US.

Fun to read a Merkin concern-trolling about demographic change or declining prospects for average-income white people. It is to laugh.

Littering is much worse in Us cities than London and as for violent crime...

Posted by: michele kerr at December 07, 2025 05:53 PM (aIFJ6)

273 The ruling party in Poland would like to have mass immigration, but they realize that they will be voted out of office if they try.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2025 01:15 PM

Is the Poland Government Anti-Immigration?

Yes, the government's immigration stance is notably restrictive and security-focused, aligning with anti-immigration rhetoric despite its non-conservative ideology. This reflects broad Polish public sentiment, hybrid threats from Belarus/Russia, and continuity from the prior PiS era. Key elements of the 2025–2030 Migration Strategy ("Regain Control, Ensure Security"):

Border Security: Continued pushbacks of migrants at the Belarus border (over 9,800 reported from Dec 2023–Aug 2024, with at least 87 deaths since 2021). New laws limit criminal liability for border guards using force and fortify the border.

Asylum Suspension: Legislation allows temporary (60-day) suspension of asylum applications if migration "threatens to destabilize the state," with extensions possible.

(continued...)

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 07:53 PM (P5BPp)

274 EU Pact Resistance: Poland secured an exemption from mandatory migrant relocations under the EU Migration Pact, insisting it won't host relocated asylum seekers from other member states.

Selective Immigration: Tightens rules for non-EU workers (e.g., digitalized work permits, signed contracts required, no labor market tests, stricter student visas) while favoring culturally similar migrants (e.g., Ukrainians, with ~992,000 under temporary protection).

Grok summary: https://bit.ly/4aAq8MI

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 07:54 PM (P5BPp)

275 What gives me hope is that much like 250 years ago, increasingly the best and brightest are rallying to the American ideal. And that ideal is greater than anything, even the march of islam. There are way too many people who see what is happening. They will rally here.

Posted by: Black JEM at December 07, 2025 02:23 PM

Six years ago, I would have shared that sentiment. Then I saw how everyone in the country did nothing to fight to the tyranny of the government during the COVID Plandemic.

People did nothing as they were forced to watch their loved ones die alone in hospitals. People went along with wearing masks everywhere. People went along with forcing children to stay home from school and then forcing children to wear masks when back at school. People went along with mandated closing of businesses and churches.

The people in the USA of 2025 are nothing like the people of the soon-to-be USA of 250 years ago.

Seeing what is happening means nothing unless there is action. As stated in Batman Begins, "Training is nothing. Will is everything. The will to act."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 08:20 PM (P5BPp)

276 IIRC, Nayib Bukele is himself a muslim, bit one of the non-militant kinds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM

Via Grok... the cynic in me would say that he is pretending to not be a Muslim to gain power in a Christian nation and then eventually impose Islam.

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No, Nayib Bukele is not Muslim. He has explicitly stated that he does not adhere to any specific religion, though he believes in God (and has referenced faith in Jesus Christ in past interviews).

His father, Armando Bukele Kattán (a Palestinian immigrant), converted to Islam and served as an imam, and some of his siblings (like half-brother Imam Emerson Bukele) are practicing Muslims.

Bukele's mother is Catholic, giving him a mixed Christian-Muslim family background.

This distinction became a point of political attack during his 2019 presidential campaign, when opponents shared photos of him praying in a mosque with his family to falsely portray him as a "secret Muslim" and stoke anti-Muslim sentiment in largely Christian El Salvador.

Some sources and social media claims continue to mislabel him as Muslim, but reliable reports consistently clarify his non-religious stance.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 08:36 PM (P5BPp)

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