First World Problems...

Do you see it? DO YOU SEE IT?

In fact, this is a double-barrelled crisis, because not only do those screw slots point in chaotic directions, some of them have worn enough to be visibly different colors!

Fire...obviously. But will it be enough? Will it be hot enough?

The struggle is real...

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:00 PM (Ia/+0)

2 Old supervisor I had insisted all straight slotted screws were to be vertical.
To me that's a bit anal

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (Ia/+0)

3 I see screws. Maybe it can be replaced.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (VPtfc)

4 The struggle is real...

Posted by: CBD

We have faith in man, the tool user.. except for CBD!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM (dRZit)

5 ALL of those need to be replaced with smart switches and a screwless cover plate. Get crackin'!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 07, 2025 02:03 PM (3Ope8)

6 Hardware stores probably sell those. Bring provisions.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:04 PM (VPtfc)

7 My house it littered with all correctly oriented screws. I changed all the outlets and switches throughout the house with the newer block style ones with new plates with screws anyway. My conscience is clear. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 02:04 PM (snZF9)

8 It's so that someone wielding a flat head screwdriver can find the slot with poor visibility...

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:04 PM (XuXeR)

9 When you look up the definition of "anal retentive" there is a description of guys that get upset by screw heads not being aligned.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:05 PM (W7XSX)

10

Sunday December 7, 1941.

Posted by: Kerry is so Very at December 07, 2025 02:05 PM (aFbPN)

11 Or of different colors.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:05 PM (W7XSX)

12 What's next? Crooked lamp shades? Tilted picture frames?

Someone needs to be flogged!

Posted by: Fritzy at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (2GIh1)

13
a well paid COB.. probably a great dental plan too.

Looks like the center and right switches are set for max power, CBD must be rich!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (dRZit)

14 The mark of a good electrician is the slots all line up vertically without warping the faceplate. Horizontal the slots tend to collect crud.

Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (vFG9F)

15 When you look up the definition of "anal retentive" there is a description of guys that get upset by screw heads not being aligned.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:05 PM (W7XSX)

There are a few reasons why electricians orient them the right way. 1- it shows they give a shit about their work, 2- dust don't gather in the screw head, and 3- it just looks better.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (snZF9)

16 Pearl Harbor Day is a day to pray for souls of all those that died in battle. I am pretty sure the good Lord is very ecumenical about mercy.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (W7XSX)

17 I don't know if it's true but I was told that on the old handbuilt Porsches, like the 356s in the 50's, screw heads were always aligned in some logical fashion.

Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (vFG9F)

18 And yet no one notices that one of the three switches is different? (no slider)

Posted by: h r giggles at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (ujHKu)

19 Someone should make velcro electrical plates
No screws

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (Ia/+0)

20 Union electricians use those old pressure labels on circuit breaker boxes and not a pencil. Clearly, my house was wired by non-union electricians.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (W7XSX)

21 Neatness counts even if it is OCD

Posted by: Accomack at December 07, 2025 02:10 PM (/Chlc)

22 Just get some smiley face stickers to go over the screws. Jeez, do I have to think of everything?

Posted by: fd at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (vFG9F)

23 Really, nobody cares.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (W7XSX)

24
Drove to church this morning. Left the house at 5:10 and got there at 6:00. Heavy fog. Idiots driving with no lights. Idiots driving with emergency blinkers on. Idiots who keep hitting the brakes so they never go over 40 in a 65.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (tgvbd)

25 The dimmer sliders and nice. We have those too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 02:12 PM (NwnyJ)

26 My house it littered with all correctly oriented screws. I changed all the outlets and switches throughout the house with the newer block style ones with new plates with screws anyway. My conscience is clear.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Amen Brother. We're not animals!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (cYBz/)

27 Drove to church this morning. Left the house at 5:10 and got there at 6:00. Heavy fog. Idiots driving with no lights. Idiots driving with emergency blinkers on. Idiots who keep hitting the brakes so they never go over 40 in a 65.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:11 PM (tgvbd)

Ah, bad weather driving. Where everyone going slower than you is an idiot, and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (4mmkh)

28 When you look up the definition of "anal retentive" there is a description of guys that get upset by screw heads not being aligned.
Posted by: no one

When a craftsman pays attention to the small details, there is a exponentially larger chance that the big stuff is to code.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:14 PM (cYBz/)

29 A fox has been napping in our backyard all afternoon

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 07, 2025 02:15 PM (tcsrY)

30 After 1 hour in my house you’d be walking around screaming. Lol. Nothing lines up. House is 130 years old with god knows how many renovations along the way, Often times by people who had no clue what they were doing. We don’t call it bad workmanship though we call it “character”.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:15 PM (SQJLY)

31 Dug my car out for the fourth time this week. Two big snowfall days, plus two days of getting plowed back in again. I hope the rest of winter isn't like this.

Posted by: gp at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (GHIyr)

32
Ah, bad weather driving. Where everyone going slower than you is an idiot, and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (4mmkh)

____________

Pick a speed and maintain it, stay in your lane, turn your lights on. Is that too difficult?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (tgvbd)

33 Ah, bad weather driving. Where everyone going slower than you is an idiot, and everyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:13 PM (4mmkh)

🤣

Perfectly said.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (SQJLY)

34 We have Decora wall plates, I think horizontal screw slots look better with them.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (tA1/w)

35

What if every screwhead is rotated exactly fifteen degrees to the right of the previous one...

Posted by: Kerry is so Very at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (aFbPN)

36 My son's best friend is an EE. He worked for a while as an electrician. He was knocking out the work in half the time of the fat asses because he was paid for the job, not by the hour.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (W7XSX)

37
Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (tgvbd)

38 FWIW, newish house (10 yo), all the faceplates are snap on...sigh.

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (XuXeR)

39 My FWP is CSPAN. It's books and other presentations on the weekends. All well and good except the brief descriptions on the guide tell you nothing. NOTHING! "Author Billy Bob Corncob discusses his book, The Crisis in Our . . ."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (L/fGl)

40 Is that too difficult?"

Hey I'm texting here...!

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (XuXeR)

41 I bought a house and after five years, I switched a couple of switches. It took me five years to relearn what switch controlled which lights.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (W7XSX)

42 Looks like the center and right switches are set for max power, CBD must be rich!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:07 PM (dRZit)

LEDs baby!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (n9ltV)

43 Everyone thinks their driving skill is above average.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (SQJLY)

44 I am actually about to replace a dimmer light switch. It is at the far-end of the spectrum of my house repair capabilities.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:20 PM (A0sqA)

45 Also, switches not facing the appropriate direction for on or off bother the hell out of me (like when multiple switches run the same thing.) Getting into a double up being off is a crisis.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:20 PM (zZu0s)

46
He worked for a while as an electrician. He was knocking out the work in half the time of the fat asses because he was paid for the job, not by the hour.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (W7XSX)

_________

I worked one summer in the maintenance department at my college. They'd give me an assignment and were surprised when I came back soon after with the job done. Soon, I was advised by the permanent staff that such efficiency was not welcome.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:20 PM (tgvbd)

47 Worse yet is when one switch goes to you know not where.

Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (kYgH9)

48 Everyone thinks their children are above average.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (W7XSX)

49 CBD, you need to update those switches. They have made new ones with better controls.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (A0sqA)

50 41 I bought a house and after five years, I switched a couple of switches. It took me five years to relearn what switch controlled which lights.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:19 PM (W7XSX)

In my kitchen I have a panel with 4 switches. One is the ceiling recessed lights for 1/2 the kitchen, one is the other half, one is for the cabinet lights and 1 is for the ceiling lamps.

It took me about 3 years to learn which one did what without flipping the wrong one.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (SQJLY)

51 And yet no one notices that one of the three switches is different? (no slider)

Posted by: h r giggles at December 07, 2025 02:09 PM (ujHKu)

The dimmer for those lights is on the other side of the room. And...it does make sense!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (n9ltV)

52 Whoever left those bolts all catty-wampus like that is just crying for help.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (A0sqA)

53 When a craftsman pays attention to the small details, there is a exponentially larger chance that the big stuff is to code.

Yes and no. I saw a picture of an electrical panel where everything was neatly ziptied and all of the wires were exactly the necessary length and no more. Absolutely beautiful.

As you might or might not expect, all the electricians and most of the code inspectors blew their tops. Because if anything breaks or needs to be changed in the future you pretty much can't without replacing that wire between the panel and the first place it connects to, or adding a junction box.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (QZThv)

54 am actually about to replace a dimmer light switch"

Well, don't worry about the breaker.. Just a waste of time, plus leaving the wires hot makes it more exciting!

(That's a joke. Don't forget the breaker)

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (XuXeR)

55 I worked one summer in the maintenance department at my college. They'd give me an assignment and were surprised when I came back soon after with the job done. Soon, I was advised by the permanent staff that such efficiency was not welcome.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

First job out of HS was as a Laborer on a Union job represented by the Teamsters. On day 1 the straw boss showed me how to turn a shovel into a serviceable place to sit down.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:22 PM (cYBz/)

56 Everyone thinks their children are above average.
Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (W7XSX)

Bro my kid is an honor student. I have the car window sticker and everything to prove it. Of course he’s above average.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:23 PM (SQJLY)

57 Everyone thinks their children are above average.
Posted by: no one

My favorite other phrase is 'My kid fell in with the wrong crowd."

You know, that's what the other parents also say about your kid.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (cYBz/)

58 Bro my kid is an honor student. I have the car window sticker and everything to prove it. Of course he’s above average.

Did you just assume their gender?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (QZThv)

59 CBD, you need to update those switches. They have made new ones with better controls.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (A0sqA)

Why? The dimmers work great. I'm not made of money, unlike you rich left-coasters!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (n9ltV)

60 Wait...is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?

Posted by: Orson at December 07, 2025 02:25 PM (dIske)

61 I was about to say re driving that it is like golf- but that is a bad analogy.

Everyone KNOWS they suck at golf. It is possibly the most humbling sport there is, especially when you play with someone actually good. It is like they are a different species.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:25 PM (zZu0s)

62 The “slow your roll” thing happens in white collar jobs too. I was at a client once and my first week there I was all hung go to get started, I did a quick proof of concept for what I was thinking.

My buddy who got me in there came over to me and said yeah dude, you need to slow down. You’re going to ruffle feathers, nobody works fast here. lol

I was like done and done my friend. And for the rest of my time there I just followed the lead of everyone else who did jack shit all day.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:27 PM (SQJLY)

63 "Soon, I was advised by the permanent staff that such efficiency was not welcome."

Yeah, the union guys were pissed. The owner was delighted.

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:27 PM (W7XSX)

64 Why? The dimmers work great. I'm not made of money, unlike you rich left-coasters!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 02:24 PM (n9ltV)
====
*replaces monacle*
*buffs suspender hardware*
Well I say old chap where are you wintering this year?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:28 PM (A0sqA)

65 is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?"

Nah, movies.

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (XuXeR)

66 Drivers here in Sh!tsville: speeders; tailgaters; nobody uses turn signals; nobody knows how to merge in traffic; half of the a-holes have pitch-black window tints so you can't make eye contact with them at four-way stops to try to figure out what they're going to do next.

Posted by: gp at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (GHIyr)

67 It's actually quite a genius design, meant to fit a dimmer in the same size aperture as the dimmerless switch.

70's genius. Like the pet rock and mood ring.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (A0sqA)

68 So, CBD, you need to insert a dime into those slots every time you want to put on some more than minimal lighting?

Interesting!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (LdSJK)

69 I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy. She has a vacuum strategically placed so she can vacuum as she walks out the door so no footprints disturb the carpet in her absence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (L/fGl)

70 is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?"

Nah, movies.
Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (XuXeR)

I suddenly want to type 'busty electrician' into Bing, but I am on the work wifi.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:30 PM (zZu0s)

71 Do those slide dimmers work easily.

We've got a couple of the round knob push to click on spin to dim jobs. They're cheap wobbly plastic and no replacement knobs fit.

Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:31 PM (FhXTo)

72 "My kid beat up your Honor Student."

Posted by: no one at December 07, 2025 02:31 PM (W7XSX)

73 I H8 new switches with sensors when room is occupied or not

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:32 PM (Ia/+0)

74
Drivers here in Sh!tsville: speeders; tailgaters; nobody uses turn signals; nobody knows how to merge in traffic

__________

"Don't forget me!" - Guy with the 500,000 candlepower headlights

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (tgvbd)

75 I was about to say re driving that it is like golf- but that is a bad analogy.

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Drive carefully or you'll wind up in a water hazard?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (L/fGl)

76 I suddenly want to type 'busty electrician' into Bing, but I am on the work wifi."

Lexy the electrician. You're welcome

Posted by: man at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (XuXeR)

77 Do those slide dimmers work easily.

We've got a couple of the round knob push to click on spin to dim jobs. They're cheap wobbly plastic and no replacement knobs fit.
Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:31 PM (FhXTo)
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Had them for 30 years. Seem to last about years.

The rotary ones are easily damaged

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (A0sqA)

78 Wait...is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?
Posted by: Orson

Yes!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2025 02:34 PM (dRZit)

79

My honor student beat up your stupid looser.

Posted by: Kerry is so Very at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (aFbPN)

80 Some bulbs will not work with a dimmer I have found

Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (kYgH9)

81 n fact, this is a double-barrelled crisis, because not only do those screw slots point in chaotic directions, some of them have worn enough to be visibly different colors!

Fire...obviously. But will it be enough? Will it be hot enough?

The struggle is real...

Posted by CBD at 02:00 PM Comments

In before the 9/11 tards:

Fire can't melt steel!!! reee!!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (pJWtt)

82 Guy with the 500,000 candlepower headlights

High Intensity Discharge and we're back to a porn thread.

Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (FhXTo)

83 This drives my husband, who's an electrician, nuts.

He just told me that an inspector can fail you for that.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (22p5n)

84 Wait...is this an electrical thread, a problems thread or a tutorial on OCD?
Posted by: Orson
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Screw threads cannot be ignored.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (XeU6L)

85 I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy. She has a vacuum strategically placed so she can vacuum as she walks out the door so no footprints disturb the carpet in her absence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM

Or she wants to be able to see if anyone came in the door while she was out. Does she also jump at loud noises? Is her handbag suspiciously heavy? Does she immediately change the subject if somebody mentions The War?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:39 PM (4mmkh)

86 Does she also jump at loud noises? Is her handbag suspiciously heavy? Does she immediately change the subject if somebody mentions The War?
___

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 07, 2025 02:41 PM (22p5n)

87 I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy.
=====

Married or single?
1 cat or more than 1 cat?
EV or ICE?

Score >1 then batshit crazy

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:41 PM (A0sqA)

88 Hey guys,

We have a launch in just over an hour.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-92
LC-39A - Kennedy Space Center - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 7, 2025
Launch Time: 4:40 p.m. EST (2140 UTC, 22:40 CET)

https://youtu.be/sOCnytxilOg

Posted by: Joyenz at December 07, 2025 02:41 PM (2F0/Y)

89 "Don't forget me!" - Guy with the 500,000 candlepower headlights
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:33 PM (tgvbd)

I hate - with the heat of 1000 Suns - those new LED headlights. They're the wrong spectrum (probably 5000 K). They're even worse than the High Intensity Discharge headlights.

Yeah, they give the driver great visibility, but blinding for on-coming traffic.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (pJWtt)

90 stupid looser.

—
ISWYDT

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (SQJLY)

91 National FWP.

Fans Worry Sale Of WB To Netflix Could Turn Comic Book Movies Into Soulless Cash Grabs

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From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (L/fGl)

92 Alright time to make this happen while Mrs. F. is at the market and can't give helpful advice and supervision.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (A0sqA)

93 69 I'm no professional psychiatrist but I've diagnosed one of Mrs. Wrecks' friends as bat shit crazy. She has a vacuum strategically placed so she can vacuum as she walks out the door so no footprints disturb the carpet in her absence.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (L/fGl)

Footprints on the carpet might alert you to a murderer lurking in the house. We watch a lot of murder mysteries on the TV

Posted by: javems at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (kYgH9)

94 You guys still have carpet?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 07, 2025 02:44 PM (SQJLY)

95 How many serial killers have been done in by carpet footprints?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:44 PM (VPtfc)

96 You guys still have carpet?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Some of the gals still go old school.

nttawwt.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:45 PM (cYBz/)

97 Office Space caused the adoption of Red Swingline Staplers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:45 PM (VPtfc)

98 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.

*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)

99 Married or single?

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Divorced. A shocker, I know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (L/fGl)

100 Women often seem to love the true crime.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:47 PM (zZu0s)

101 Guy with the 500,000 candlepower headlights

High Intensity Discharge and we're back to a porn thread.
Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:38 PM (FhXTo)

Heh ... I mentioned HED headlights before I read your comment.

Some bureaucrat thinks-up a new standard that sounds great in theory -- but they forget about Human Factors. The driver of a car with HED or LED headlights isn't the only person on the road.

Congratulations, the driver can see the road and surroundings better -- BUT, the on-coming drivers are dazzled by the bright light and lose orientation.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:48 PM (pJWtt)

102 Bulged cans are supposed to be bad news or something. Spaggetti sauce jar?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:48 PM (VPtfc)

103 but blinding for on-coming traffic.

I can't see their turn signal blinking.

Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2025 02:48 PM (FhXTo)

104 I can't handle bright lights from behind me either.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:49 PM (VPtfc)

105 "Bulged cans"

... tell me more.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:49 PM (zZu0s)

106 > Do those slide dimmers work easily.
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We like them. Not as obtrusive as the old style rotary ones. One is on our kitchen undercounter LED lights.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2025 02:50 PM (NwnyJ)

107 Leave the lights off.

Problem solved. At least at night.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 02:50 PM (2WIwB)

108 spare electric switch cover screws are worth their weight in GOLD!

Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at December 07, 2025 02:50 PM (WA5m6)

109
UP is ON
DOWN is OFF

it bugs me when a light that has 2 separate on/off switches, such as a staircase, gets the switch positions out of phase.

At the bottom of the stairs, UP is ON and you ascend. At the top, DOWN is OFF.

It is how it must be.

Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (ZxPkt)

110 "Bulged cans"

... tell me more.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 02:49 PM (zZu0s)

Is that Mayor Pete "socking" one of our regulars?

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (pJWtt)

111 Fir the price of a good canopener you can buy a couple of six tins of corned beef.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (VPtfc)

112 My sister has a phobia about tools being left out. She's seen many the movie where the wandering psycho finds a tool and uses that as a deadly weapon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (L/fGl)

113 2 Old supervisor I had insisted all straight slotted screws were to be vertical.
To me that's a bit anal

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 02:02 PM

I believe the correct terminology for OCD people is as follows:

Screw slots vertical = anal

Screw slots horizontal = oral

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (HlyYF)

114 Worse is when double pole switches cause some to be up and others down when all the lights are off. OCD!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (rHzf3)

115 Have you considered crowdfunding a few tanks of napalm and have them delivered by aerial means. You might even be able to ppv the event.

Posted by: Z, no not him. A different Z at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (iAcMN)

116 Can yoy bring duplicate light switches back into phase?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (VPtfc)

117 My FWP is I dropped a tiny machine screw into the terrible clutter that is next to my chair. Without much hope, I went to the garage and got my magnetic pickup tool. I waved it around in the clutter and, to my great surprise, found the screw stuck to it on the first pass.

I am now waiting for the Universe to take its terrible revenge, to balance the scales of karma.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 02:53 PM (4mmkh)

118 Well...hell.
I thought sure there'd be a surprise mystery click featuring the Electric Light Orchestra.
Sadz...

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 02:54 PM (2WIwB)

119 @101:

That should be HID (High Intensity Discharge) , not HED.

I really do miss the preview button we used to have before trolls broke the comments, and Pixy had to "fix" things by reverting to cutting-edge 1990s Unicode.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:54 PM (pJWtt)

120 CBD, you took that picture in my house while I was in church. Didn’t you?

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (LHPAg)

121 Shag carpetting?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:55 PM (VPtfc)

122 We have dimmable/programmable LED lights throughout the house, controlled by smart switches. It's nice to walk into the kitchen at 0330 with the under the shelf lights on low, then into the office with the lights rising. By the time tiny pups are fed and the coffee is loaded, everything is ready for the morning. Exterior lights on at sunset, off at sunrise. Lights in the bedrooms, the front porch and the back patio on voice command.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 07, 2025 02:57 PM (3Ope8)

123 My sister has a phobia about tools being left out. She's seen many the movie where the wandering psycho finds a tool and uses that as a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (L/fGl)

Heh ... Mrs Cop will just fcvk-up a butter knife rather than asking for a screwdriver even though I have a fairly good collection of hand-tools.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:57 PM (pJWtt)

124 Is the complete & abject horror that is Comcast qualify as FWP?

Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 02:57 PM (ZxPkt)

125 Worse is when double pole switches cause some to be up and others down when all the lights are off. OCD!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 07, 2025 02:52 PM (rHzf3)

Better yet, have a double pole switch suddenly stop working and envision hours of chasing down bad wiring or replacing a breaker. Then realizing the other double pole across the room has just been knocked into the halfway position.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 07, 2025 03:01 PM (4mmkh)

126 All of a sudden in sat the last two years I am seeing lots of female electricians. This job a million miles away ( seems like that driving there) is 2 women which I take it are Union starters and that happened at another job. So suspect there was a push to find women to do that work.

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)

127 Torx or hex head screws would be more fun.

Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 07, 2025 03:06 PM (TFeiv)

128 Is that Mayor Pete "socking" one of our regulars?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (pJWtt)

I was going for cans as a euphemism for breasts. Although I have seen legs referred to that way.

Wait, how is cans gay? Can it also be used for ass?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:07 PM (zZu0s)

129 Bulged cans are supposed to be bad news or something. Spaggetti sauce jar?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 07, 2025 02:48 PM (VPtfc)

Toss it. Gas-producing bacteria can be a very bad thing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 03:08 PM (n9ltV)

130 That switch plate does look like shit.
I would be ashamed to having anything to do with it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 07, 2025 03:10 PM (/lPRQ)

131 Especially considering it has to be anaerobic if the can is still sealed.

NOTHING good is anaerobic. Not even sorta ok/survivable.

Take no chances with Botulism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:10 PM (zZu0s)

132 I was going for cans as a euphemism for breasts. Although I have seen legs referred to that way.
---

Legs are gams. Butts are buns.

Asses can be cans if someone is yelling at you to get off your can, although I think of "can" to be the terlit in this cantext.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 03:10 PM (kpS4V)

133 Stems are best euphemism for legs. Or Pins.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:12 PM (zZu0s)

134 >Stems are best euphemism for legs. Or Pins.

Posted by: Aetius451AD

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getaway sticks

Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 03:13 PM (ZxPkt)

135 You know, with the proliferation of rare-earth magnets these days, you could make switch plates with no screws at all. Just neodymium magnets molded into the plastic at the screw sites. To remove a switch plate from the wall, just insert a putty knife, and twist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:15 PM (npFr7)

136 *needle scratch*

Wait a second. Just a fucking second. There was a 1983 Cadablanca TV series?

I was 8, so this is not my fault.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:16 PM (zZu0s)

137 Casablanca, phone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:17 PM (zZu0s)

138
There's a number of lights at my house that are controlled by two switches, so the toggles do not line up as shown.

I confess to going back and forth and switch them to make sure they are all in the same direction.

I pray CBD starts an organization where we can all go, give fake names, discuss our problem, and then go meet in some discreet bar afterwards.

Posted by: Auspex at December 07, 2025 03:17 PM (Y8DZL)

139 I failed. I think the light fixture needs to be replaced.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 03:21 PM (9ipOP)

140 128 I was going for cans as a euphemism for breasts. Although I have seen legs referred to that way.

Wait, how is cans gay? Can it also be used for ass?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:07 PM (zZu0s)

Cans = Bewbs

Gams = Legs (outdated)

Can = Arse

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:24 PM (QGaXH)

141 Pick a speed and maintain it, stay in your lane, turn your lights on. Is that too difficult?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:16 PM (tgvbd)

If you have fog lights, turn the damned headlights off, and drive on the fogs. That's why you have them! Problem with fog (and blowing snow) is not lack of light, it's back-scatter from fog or snow dazzling your eyes.

Likewise, if it is clear and dry, leave you damned fog lights off when driving at night. Irritates other drivers, and creates a bright pool of light close to your car, to which your eyes become adjusted, making dimly-lit distant objects become harder to see...like that damned Bambi about set to jump into your lane.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:24 PM (npFr7)

142
The struggle is real...
Posted by: CBD
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We have faith in man, the tool user.. except for CBD!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

I'm building shelves over here. Where's my damned drill?
- probably ace

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 07, 2025 03:25 PM (QVmho)

143 It's actually quite a genius design, meant to fit a dimmer in the same size aperture as the dimmerless switch.

70's genius. Like the pet rock and mood ring.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:29 PM (A0sqA)

What happened to the round-knob dimmers? Push on, push off, rotate knob for dimming? Still have a few in my junk box. I installed exactly zero dimmers when I wired my AZ house. All LED; cost so little to run that dimming is pointless. I think most of the LED's are in fact dimmable, but I don't give a shit. If I want "mood lighting" I will plug in a floor or table lamp.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (npFr7)

144 5 minutes with no comments?

Did something break?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (QGaXH)

145 When a craftsman pays attention to the small details, there is a exponentially larger chance that the big stuff is to code.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2025 02:14 PM (cYBz/)

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The Van Halen Brown M&M theory in a nutshell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (QtWcb)

146 Then three comments in the same minute.

Fits and spurts?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:33 PM (QGaXH)

147 Fits and spurts
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Attorneys at Law!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 03:35 PM (kpS4V)

148 Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?

ft-lbs not ft/lbs:
foot-pound
noun
ˈfu̇t-ˈpau̇nd
plural foot-pounds
: a unit of work equal to the work done by a force of one pound acting through a distance of one foot in the direction of the force.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (jMluN)

149 I'd better get back to work on the tree and outside lights - all of which we've procrastinated on since last Thursday...

Fortunately we don't have the specter of winter weather to contend with though it was down to 44 degrees yesterday morning.

Brrrrrrr!

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (QGaXH)

150
109
UP is ON
DOWN is OFF

it bugs me when a light that has 2 separate on/off switches, such as a staircase, gets the switch positions out of phase.

At the bottom of the stairs, UP is ON and you ascend. At the top, DOWN is OFF.

It is how it must be.
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (ZxPkt

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*burp*

Nah.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (azNOR)

151 Sorry copied the wrong definition:

Foot-pounds (ft-lbs) are a unit of measurement for torque, representing the force applied at a distance of one foot from a pivot point.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:37 PM (jMluN)

152 Fits and spurts?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:33 PM (QGaXH)

Isn't flowmax supposed to help with this?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (zZu0s)

153 Yeah, they give the driver great visibility, but blinding for on-coming traffic.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 02:42 PM (pJWtt)

It's really, really hard to do good optics when you don't have a point source of light. LED's have multiple point sources, all slightly displaced from one another. It may be possible to design a lens/reflector combo that works well with a particular model of LED "bulb" as in OEM composite lamps. I doubt it's possible to design LED "bulbs" that will be truly satisfactory in a lens/reflector combo originally designed for halogen bulbs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (npFr7)

154 5 minutes with no comments?

Did something break?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:31 PM (QGaXH)

Everyone was running around fixing their light switch screws.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (2WIwB)

155 109
UP is ON
DOWN is OFF

it bugs me when a light that has 2 separate on/off switches, such as a staircase, gets the switch positions out of phase.

At the bottom of the stairs, UP is ON and you ascend. At the top, DOWN is OFF.

It is how it must be.
Posted by: Don Black at December 07, 2025 02:51 PM (ZxPkt)

A is A

B is B

Zombie Ayn Rand

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 07, 2025 03:38 PM (QGaXH)

156 The slide dimmers are the "Ariadni" line by Lutron, and they work great and they last. The dimmer setting doesn't necessarily change when you flip the toggle on / off. They're solid-state so they don't waste 10% of the current generating heat inside the box (as the old rotary rheostats do).

I was a carpenter and contractor for 40+ years and learned a lot from some very skilled electricians. They all insisted that screw slots be aligned vertically, noting (as Tonypete and Bers among others above did) that such attention to detail was likely to be found inside the box and elsewhere. I insisted thay my painters and wallpaper guy do the same when replacing cover plates. Also would casually point this out to clients and potential clients, and every last one has said they think of me and my attention to detail whenever they see screws not done properly, even decades later. That's marketing at its best...

Posted by: Cowboyneal - the Other Jewish Carpenter at December 07, 2025 03:39 PM (MRSZC)

157 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.

*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)

I just ate the leftovers from last evening's slow-cooker chili. It was fine. Going to do a beef stew in the slow cooker now. Cut up a slab of beef shank, brown in skillet, put in slow cooker with beef broth, some shiitake mushrooms, baby red potatoes, and cut-up rutabaga. Maybe a cut-up 'mater, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:41 PM (npFr7)

158 You DO know what that worn switch plate means, yes … ? Yes? It means it's: TIME FOR A NEW HOUSE.

Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:42 PM (ayRl+)

159 Hey, that’s confusing: foot-pounds can be a unit of work if a scalar, and a unit of torque if a vector. But there’s to easy way to show scalar versus vector in common speech or writing!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:42 PM (jMluN)

160 The struggle is real...

==

Chin Chin and carry on!

Posted by: mrp at December 07, 2025 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)

161 Think things are complicated?

Try setting up keybindings for a dual-stick setup -- for the first time.

Posted by: mrp at December 07, 2025 03:45 PM (rj6Yv)

162 Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?

ft-lbs not ft/lbs:
foot-pound
noun
ˈfu̇t-ˈpau̇nd
plural foot-pounds
: a unit of work equal to the work done by a force of one pound acting through a distance of one foot in the direction of the force.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:36 PM (jMluN)

And it's probably 15 inch-pounds. Not foot pounds.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:46 PM (npFr7)

163 @ 157 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.

*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)
_____________________________________________________

'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)

164 Weird PC phrase of the week - Underresourced Communities.
I never heard this phrase before this week, but now i've heard it in 3 different settings. Like "undocumented immigrant," it's factually incorrect. These communities have all sorts of resources poured into them. Between graft, poor government plans, and irresponsible lifestyle choices of residents, the communities keep failing, but it's not from lack of resources.

Posted by: Wally at December 07, 2025 03:50 PM (R+nQW)

165
163 @ 157 Welp. I was all ready to make some slow cooker chili and found my can of stewed tomatoes is out of date by three years and the top is bulging.

*puts everything back in the fridge and sulks*
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 07, 2025 02:46 PM (mT+6a)
_____________________________________________________

'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)

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Bulging is not OK. Discard.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 03:51 PM (azNOR)

166 Bulging is not OK. Discard.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2025 03:51 PM (azNOR)

Bulging cans ought to blow up real good when used as targets at the "range".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:53 PM (npFr7)

167 49 CBD, you need to update those switches. They have made new ones with better controls.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2025 02:21 PM (A0sqA)

But they still work! (presumably)

Posted by: m at December 07, 2025 03:55 PM (RuTUS)

168 You know, I vaguely remember there being switch plate screws, the heads of which were little rosettes. You simply screwed them in finger-tight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2025 03:55 PM (npFr7)

169 'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)

Absolutely not! Bulging cans are almost always a sighn of contamination with anaerobic, gas-producing bacteria, and they do not play well with the human body.

Throw. It. Out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2025 03:55 PM (n9ltV)

170 Technically torque is pseudovector: it doesn’t have the same properties as a vector upon reflection as a vector. Because it’s a tensor mapped into a vector: a feat you can only get away with in three dimensions.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:56 PM (jMluN)

171 Bon Vivant vichyssoise soup

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 07, 2025 03:59 PM (jMluN)

172 Get cleaned up and upstairs
FOODIE NOODIE TIME

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2025 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

173 'Bulging' is okay …

The Paolo hears this, how you say, many time from the ladies...

Posted by: The Paolo at December 07, 2025 04:01 PM (PiwSw)

174 @ 169 'Bulging' is okay … 'Leaking' — isn't. Ask me how I know.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 03:47 PM (ayRl+)
Absolutely not! Bulging cans are almost always a sighn of contamination with anaerobic, gas-producing bacteria, and they do not play well with the human body.

Throw. It. Out.
____________________________________________

Right. The 'bulging' is caused by bacterial farts. That's all part of Nature's 'grand design' … now let's all gather in a circle and sing that wonderful old John Lennon tune, 'Give Pizza Chants!' … we'll get back to the 'Battle of the Bulge' in just a bit — but first, a word from our sponson …

Posted by: Dr_No at December 07, 2025 04:02 PM (ayRl+)

175 Ha-ha! I'd take them all out and replace them with square drive.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 07, 2025 04:07 PM (w6S0H)

176 37
Are they all screwed in to 15 ft/lbs? Why not?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2025 02:18 PM (tgvbd)

**********

I used to work with a technician who had a scholarship offer to play defensive tackle for Texas A&M. He was 6'2" and about 280 pounds and could he tighten a screw, so much so that no one else could untighten it. Very quickly, after the lead tech, who had served in the Marines and was no weakling being about 6'4" and I'd guess 240 pounds, couldn't untightend the screws and so a torque screwdriver with interchangeable heads was bought for the 280 pound tech with his name scribed on it and noone was allowed to ever use this set - that rule was strictly enforced.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2025 04:07 PM (3C1oN)

177 RadioGenoa @RadioGenoa

A Muslim crowd surrounds St. Martin's Cathedral in Utrecht, Netherlands, shouting "Allah Akbar". Imagine what would have happened if Christians had done the same outside of a mosque.

X video: https://bit.ly/4pOdOgi

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 04:11 PM (P5BPp)

178 177 RadioGenoa @RadioGenoa

A Muslim crowd surrounds St. Martin's Cathedral in Utrecht, Netherlands, shouting "Allah Akbar". Imagine what would have happened if Christians had done the same outside of a mosque.

X video: https://bit.ly/4pOdOgi
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2025 04:11 PM (P5BPp)

**********

I spent some time typing and deleting. All I'll have to say about this is that it is just sickening to have those dirtbags living in our countries.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2025 04:17 PM (3C1oN)

179 See? If we were using Newton-meters we wouldn't have this discussion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2025 04:20 PM (XeU6L)

180
A prayer for all those who were at Pearl on that momentous day. Little did the Japanese realize what they unleashed that day.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 07, 2025 04:25 PM (vFbHf)

181 Home Depot sells the screws in various colors. As a landlord, I have them in all colors and a selection of oversized wall plates in all colors, along with toilet flappers, with me all the time.

In my properties, the slots are all vertical. Most especially in my house.

Posted by: asdf at December 07, 2025 04:57 PM (75cud)

182 34 We have Decora wall plates, I think horizontal screw slots look better with them.
Posted by: Next2Nothing

You can't hide money, I suppose. I'm just a poor church mouse.

Posted by: Very Fixed Income at December 07, 2025 05:03 PM (oftw2)

183 Ah motion sensor lights. I think my work had those at one time. Now we have lights that do NOT turn off. This is a workplace that installed solar panels and heat pumps a few years ago to 'save the planet from global warming'. But if individuals were bothered by having the lights on all the time they could request to have the florescent bulbs removed and bring in their own lamps. I'm a light switch flipper but I didn't buy a lamp to fix their malfunction, plus man-made GW, or CC is a hoax anyway. But seriously, still florescents, not LED, and the lights won't even turn off, tell me again workplace how you sincerely believe a large CO2 footprint is a bad thing.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 07, 2025 05:33 PM (/jn/s)

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