Trump's Ag Secretary: States Will Either Open Their Books So We Can Detect SNAP Fraud, Or We're Cutting Them Off

Can't wait for a left-wing rogue judge to be "randomly" assigned to the lawsuit and immediately grant an injunction.

States that refuse to open their books on food-stamp spending are about to feel real pressure from Washington. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins told the Trump cabinet Tuesday that the USDA will cut off federal SNAP funds to any state that keeps hiding its data -- a direct response to what she called a mountain of fraud sitting inside a program used by 42 million Americans.
Rollins said the problem came into full view earlier this year, when the USDA asked every governor to hand over their SNAP data so federal investigators could finally track where the money was going. Only 29 states -- almost all Republican-led -- cooperated. The others, including California, New York, and Minnesota, refused outright. Rollins said that refusal has consequences. Starting next week, she announced, "the money stops moving" until those states comply.
Rollins said the partial dataset already reviewed shows the program is bleeding taxpayer dollars on an astonishing scale. She pointed to 186,000 dead Americans still receiving benefits -- and that's just from the states that turned over their records. She told Newsmax the deeper the USDA digs, the more outrageous the findings become: EBT cards with balances over $10,000, cards untouched for years, and some issued to people who never existed.

With just the information provided by the red states, she's already eliminated a good amount of fraud.

Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
MAJOR: Over 800,000 people have officially been removed from SNAP, confirmed by Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins.
She highlights that the fraud is off the charts:
- 500,000 people receiving benefits twice.
- 186,000 dead people receiving benefits
- People receiving benefits in SIX different states
This is an incredible start. Keep removing more. No more robbing the American taxpayer.

"800,000 of those 42 million have moved off of food stamps, which is hopefully the plan with better jobs, higher wages."
"We found 186,000 dead people or dead people's Social Security numbers being used, 500,000 people receiving benefits more than twice, we had a couple of people receiving benefits in six states."

MAJOR: Over 800,000 people have officially been removed from SNAP, confirmed by Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins.

She highlights that the fraud is off the charts:

- 500,000 people receiving benefits twice.
- 186,000 dead people receiving benefits
- People receiving… pic.twitter.com/BpaElyYhiQ
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) December 2, 2025

NO DATA, NO MONEY — it’s that simple.

If a state won’t share data on criminal use of SNAP benefits, it won’t get a dollar of federal SNAP administrative funding.

Let’s see which states stand for accountability and which are just protecting their bribery schemes. 🤔💸 pic.twitter.com/Y1UXXDOoao
— Secretary Brooke Rollins (@SecRollins) December 2, 2025

We're living in a socialist country, with people paid a fortune for doing nothing. By allowing fraud at an industrial scale, they've backdoored socialism into law without a single vote in Congress.

🚨 INFURIATING: Afghanistan national is getting $7,000 dollars per month from the taxpayer in California.

They ask their employers to pay them under the table so they don't lose welfare.

"I am calling for a complete AUDIT of California's welfare state!"pic.twitter.com/Lqf5HuvTwh
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) December 2, 2025

Tim Walz announces a brand new opportunity for illegal immigrants to get government funding in Minnesota! It's the Paid Family and Medical Leave program, and it's open to "undocumented workers." pic.twitter.com/3kYm4BrFNa
— Libby Emmons (@libbyemmons) December 3, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM

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1 I voted for this.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 03, 2025 03:31 PM (2UnvF)

2 >>>This is huge.

Yuge even.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 03, 2025 03:31 PM (dK+Kv)

3 Called em

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 03, 2025 03:32 PM (2UnvF)

4 Oh, snap!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 03, 2025 03:32 PM (5yDGQ)

5 Thanos Snap

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2025 03:33 PM (kdnDB)

6 Can't wait for a left-wing rogue judge to be "randomly" assigned to the lawsuit and immediately grant an injunction.

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"Nah, bruh. Appealed."
-Admin, not complying

*argle bargle, Trump can't win this*
-leftist Twitter lawyers and their right-leaning sycophants

"Stayed."
-Appeals court, having gotten the message from SCOTUS

*gasps in horror*
-leftist Twitter lawyers and their right-leaning sycophants

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

7
This might be better than closing down USAID.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (IifOV)

8 Top 10!

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (TN0g+)

9 the USDA will cut off federal SNAP funds to any state that keeps hiding its data

Is she saying there is no fraud without government involvement? Well, someone had to.

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (wn0/z)

10
We're living in a socialist country, with people paid a fortune for doing nothing.

That's not a problem if you have infinite money.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (pkeXY)

11 Socialism always comes via the back door.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (kdnDB)

12
In case it's not clear from the above, this is NOT cutting off the bennies themselves; it's cutting off the money to administer them.

So states will have to figure out how to disburse funds that are actually STILL AVAILABLE to their recipients.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (4VZq7)

13 I wonder if good ol' accessory to murder Josh Shapiro gave the feds access to our state's records.

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (dCxaZ)

14 “This is huge.”

That’s what SHE said!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher, phoning it in at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (H7PeR)

15 Politicians always claim to be for eliminating "waste, fraud, and abuse"...until it actually starts happening.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (OUMaO)

16 That's my President!

Posted by: fd at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (vFG9F)

17 Walz doesn't seem to know when to quit.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (TN0g+)

18 Is this really that big? Look at the fine print:

"If a state won't share data on criminal use of SNAP benefits, it won't get a dollar of federal SNAP administrative funding."

What is "administrative funding"? That sounds like funding for costs to manage the program, not payments to SNAP recipients themselves.

Obviously, any cut to any funding for anything about SNAP is great. The entire program is a pile of steaming rape and fraud. But I don't think this threat is about cutting off SNAP recipients.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)

20
Hey, also: Trump is making an announcement live right now. Sean Duffy is rescinding Biden's fuel economy regulations.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:35 PM (4VZq7)

21 So states will have to figure out how to disburse funds that are actually STILL AVAILABLE to their recipients.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (4VZq7)

which will end up in delays for the recipient because you know damn well the higher-ups and elites will not eliminate their own jobs, rather those of the low level grunts who do all the work

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (dCxaZ)

22 Dear Lord.

Hmmm. I wonder how much of this fraud is cut outs for actual organized crime?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (zZu0s)

23 They ask their employers to pay them under the table so they don't lose welfare.

They are coached to say that by NGOs so the NGOs don't also lose their share of the pie.

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (wn0/z)

24 Hahahaha...all those yankee blue belly states better hurry up now and turn in their data.

Hahahahaha.

Posted by: It's A Swindle at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (m8zKa)

25
Is this really that big? Look at the fine print:

"If a state won't share data on criminal use of SNAP benefits, it won't get a dollar of federal SNAP administrative funding."

What is "administrative funding"? That sounds like funding for costs to manage the program, not payments to SNAP recipients themselves.

Obviously, any cut to any funding for anything about SNAP is great. The entire program is a pile of steaming rape and fraud. But I don't think this threat is about cutting off SNAP recipients.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

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See # 12

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (4VZq7)

26 INFURIATING: Afghanistan national is getting $7,000 dollars per month from the taxpayer in California.

This should make every taxpayer in the US furious. That's $84,000 per year! WTF?

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (IifOV)

27 Whatever happened to presumption of innocence?
Whatabout the right against self incrimination?

~~Corporations~~ States are people

This is nothing more than a double tap on the constitution.

Posted by: The Left, desperate to change the narrative at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (Ct3NL)

28 AI

"State-specific variation
Varying costs: The actual administrative costs vary widely from state to state due to factors like state economic conditions, SNAP caseload characteristics, and state policies.
Example figures:
In a recent period, California received over $1.2 billion for SNAP administration, which was 12% of its total SNAP funding.
Florida received $84 million for administration, which was a little over 1% of its overall federal SNAP funding."

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (tOcjL)

29 Good!

Can't wait to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth emanating from Chicago, nearly 400 miles away.

Posted by: The good citizens in southern Illinois at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (22p5n)

30 The question is, how many people are there in this country who aren't stealing? I'm starting to think that playing by the rules has been stupid.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (2UnvF)

31 Release the CPA's!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (YlWIZ)

32 These motherfuckers have sold us out for a mess of pottage and dark money from foreign interests. It may be literally treason, but it is treasonous. They are deliberately and purposefully seeking to destroy this country from within, yet have not insignificant support from the voters.

Posted by: It's a right nightmare it is at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (TbWk/)

33 OK, just do it, why give them a heads up ??

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)

34 "If a state won't share data on criminal use of SNAP benefits, it won't get a dollar of federal SNAP administrative funding."

What is "administrative funding"? That sounds like funding for costs to manage the program, not payments to SNAP recipients themselves.

Obviously, any cut to any funding for anything about SNAP is great. The entire program is a pile of steaming rape and fraud. But I don't think this threat is about cutting off SNAP recipients.

Excellent question. Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (Riz8t)

35 Moar.

Posted by: ballistic at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (5aZAZ)

36 17 Walz doesn't seem to know when to quit.
Posted by: Crusader

I told you, the guy's retarded!

Posted by: Trump at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (JCZqz)

37 Anyone committing SNAP fraud, we're going to cut it off.

But what about the women?

We're going to cut both of them off.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (EDXUr)

38 Distinct lack of arrests with the known SNAP fraud.

The $7000 for sitting on your butt is nice. Forty bucks an hour, net. Math is involved.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (s9EN2)

39 Kentucky hasn't complied which isn't a surprise as they are the epicenter of the SNAP to Soda to Oxy fraud.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (2ap+5)

40 Will illegals get in on the Trump Account handout?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (pkeXY)

41 I don't see how a $10k unused balance can remain on an EBT account without it triggering an audit.

In my brother's case, he has been audited twice because he gets a lot of food delivered from AMZ or wherever, due to not being able to drive.

They have threatened him with getting cut off twice because they thought he no longer lived in PA.
So I don't get how all this fraud and abuse is happening.

unless they are selective about who they decide to harass

Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (dCxaZ)

42
which will end up in delays for the recipient because you know damn well the higher-ups and elites will not eliminate their own jobs, rather those of the low level grunts who do all the work
Posted by: kallisto

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Oh, abso-frigging-LUTE-ly! Imagine a state as chaotically managed as California or Minnesota suddenly having to organize a state agency to the point that it can disburse funds to all eligible recipients in a timely manner! LOLOOL as if.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (4VZq7)

43 Is this really that big? Look at the fine print:

"If a state won't share data on criminal use of SNAP benefits, it won't get a dollar of federal SNAP administrative funding."

What is "administrative funding"? That sounds like funding for costs to manage the program, not payments to SNAP recipients themselves.

Obviously, any cut to any funding for anything about SNAP is great. The entire program is a pile of steaming rape and fraud. But I don't think this threat is about cutting off SNAP recipients.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

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See # 12
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (4VZq7)
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Yea, on further research it looks like the feds fund 50% of SNAP admin costs (why?). So if this threat is followed through, the states will lose half the funding for admin costs. But payments to SNAP leeches will not be cut.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (iFTx/)

44 This should make every taxpayer in the US furious. That's $84,000 per year! WTF?
Posted by: Frank Barone

That's barely enough to survive in LA, which is his right.

Posted by: Retarded Leftist at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (JCZqz)

45 Walz doesn't seem to know when to quit.
Posted by: Crusader

I told you, the guy's retarded!
Posted by: Trump at December 03, 2025 03:37 PM (JCZqz)

Are we talking about him diddling little boys, or something else?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (EDXUr)

46 Has SpeakingOf been around today?

They asked a question yesterday and I got distracted and did not answer so now I feel bad.

The answer is "Yes, that movie seems to have two names"

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (Ct3NL)

47 Democrats try to distract by releasing a video of “Pedo Island”, which most of the have already personally seen.

Democrats are abusing the victims one more time, claiming they will not stop exposing this for the victims sake.

Perhaps, in conjunction with the online release of the Epstein files, the Democrats could exhume Epstein’s decaying body.

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (RHGPo)

48 Afghanistan national is getting $7,000 dollars per month from the taxpayer in California.
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Meanwhile, Afghanistan vets missing limbs have to beg and plead for half that amount.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 03, 2025 03:39 PM (22p5n)

49 Can't wait to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth emanating from Chicago, nearly 400 miles away.

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Rending of garments at December 03, 2025 03:39 PM (Riz8t)

50 The answer is "Yes, that movie seems to have two names"
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (Ct3NL)

Edge of Tomorrow and Live Die Repeat?

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2025 03:39 PM (kdnDB)

51 unless they are selective about who they decide to harass
Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (dCxaZ)

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Bingo

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 03, 2025 03:40 PM (2UnvF)

52 Politicians always claim to be for eliminating "waste, fraud, and abuse"

For you. Their fraud, etc. is just fine.

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:40 PM (XuXeR)

53
I don't see how a $10k unused balance can remain on an EBT account without it triggering an audit.

In my brother's case, he has been audited twice because he gets a lot of food delivered from AMZ or wherever, due to not being able to drive.

They have threatened him with getting cut off twice because they thought he no longer lived in PA.
So I don't get how all this fraud and abuse is happening.

unless they are selective about who they decide to harass
Posted by: kallisto

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I think we may have answered the question in the distinction about exactly which funds are being cut off here: funds for the states to administer the disbursements.

Maybe the level of auditing and control varies from state to state, and PA has tighter controls.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (4VZq7)

54 The answer is "Yes, that movie seems to have two names"
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What's wrong with having two names?

Posted by: Auburn Sports Mascots at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (TN0g+)

55
"Trump withholding SNAP benefits disproportionately affects Single Mothers/LGBTQ+/undocumented/Children/The Blind/Lazy people/People who wear white after labor day."

-Lib schmucks

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (IifOV)

56 If they look close enough they will find illegals are not only getting benefits, they are using their kids left behind in Mexico to pump them up. Just like they were doing with refundable tax credits.

Posted by: Ripley at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (GUOwU)

57
This should make every taxpayer in the US furious. That's $84,000 per year! WTF?
Posted by: Frank Barone

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I used to work in the ghetto, and yes, it seems everyone is stealing from the taxpayer except me and a few other suckers.

The damning thing is that when people accept this as reality (and it is) they change their behavior and the country is lost.

It all adds up -- the college admission BS, the DEI BS, the welfare fraud, the tax fraud, the big tech fraud,...... It is how to lose a country.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (Ct3NL)

58 unless they are selective about who they decide to harass
Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (dCxaZ)

Government is only inefficient on purpose.

When you are not of a favored class, it is brutal and precise.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (TV54s)

59 I’m glad they’re going after the individual recipients. But any business owner involved in fraudulently employing illegal aliens should be duct taped to a metal chair and thrown down the fire stairs.

Ok, maybe not that. But they should be put out of business and fined into oblivion.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 03:42 PM (jICxN)

60 unless they are selective about who they decide to harass"

Hmm. Might want to read up on hurricane relief efforts some months back...

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:42 PM (XuXeR)

61 From the official SNAP state activity report from 2023...
https://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/snap-state-activity-reports

Feds paid $5.73B in state admin costs...so half of that for the unwilling states (b/c CA gets so much) is roughly $2.87B lost to the states not answering the feds...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2025 03:42 PM (tOcjL)

62 Beshear is a shifty fuck. Ifn you all want to invade, youre welcome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

63 Willowed from lefty thread:

288 This is going to be a huge, irreplaceable shortage to California markets, and may send California prices to $8 per gallon next year, no matter what is happening in the rest of the country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 03, 2025 03:10 PM (uWKK

If they do go to 8+ per gallon I hope Trump and the GOP have the good sense to point that out every time Gavin pokes his head up and runs his pie hole....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 03, 2025 03:43 PM (QGaXH)

64 Posted by: ... at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (kdnDB)

Did someone mention coming by the back door?

Posted by: Mayor Pete at December 03, 2025 03:43 PM (wGerL)

65 Cutting off the administrative funding is "cute" but won't affect anything in the short run. Blue cities and states hemorage money like its nobody's business, and they will continue to do so even if those funding checks stop showing up. They won't cut a single job in response.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:43 PM (TN0g+)

66 The damning thing is that when people accept this as reality (and it is) they change their behavior and the country is lost.

It all adds up -- the college admission BS, the DEI BS, the welfare fraud, the tax fraud, the big tech fraud,...... It is how to lose a country.
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I truly believe this country is running on fumes.

When the tank is completely empty, things will really get..interesting.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 03, 2025 03:44 PM (22p5n)

67
Thanks to this move from Duffy, Ford is saying they're now going to retool so they don't have to make ICE cars that get $60/gallon.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:44 PM (4VZq7)

68 and yes, it seems everyone is stealing from the taxpayer except me and a few other suckers"

Gives one a warm feeling, no?

Sorta like pissing oneself..

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:44 PM (XuXeR)

69 Hmmm. I wonder how much of this fraud is cut outs for actual organized crime?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

If by "organized crime" you mean "Democrat fundraising", you may be on to something.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 03, 2025 03:44 PM (OUMaO)

70 You have to love all those AWFL’s standing around and satiating their psychosis, and self loathing by cheering on taxpayers funded benefits to illegal aliens. Honestly, the do understand we have a legal immigration system- right?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (jICxN)

71 But any business owner involved in fraudulently employing illegal aliens should be duct taped to a metal chair and thrown down the fire stairs.

Ok, maybe not that. But they should be put out of business and fined into oblivion.
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Remember, you should always go with your first instinct.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (TN0g+)

72 I used to work in the ghetto, and yes, it seems everyone is stealing from the taxpayer except me and a few other suckers.

As has been noted recently, the market for high-end sneakers collapsed the second SNAP was affected during the shutdown. Correlation, causation, etc, but certainly suggestive.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (aUxYo)

73 I said last thread that this will cause blue cities to become even more of a dystopian mess. There are operators who use SNAP as a grift, but there are a lot of others who are on it and are too stupid or crazed to have other sources of income. Hilarity will ensue

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (bfwj/)

74 Walz doesn't seem to know when to quit.
Posted by: Crusader

Walz has that retard strength.

Posted by: Make It Count Son at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (m8zKa)

75 People "lay flat" or "go Galt" because they no longer want to contribute to a system everyone else is stealing from.

They Go Galt because it is against their character to steal, but they understand that everyone else is.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (Ct3NL)

76 We hear a lot about SNAP, but what about KRACKLE & POP?

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (pDt9x)

77 When the tank is completely empty, things will really get..interesting"

Indeed. Italy, Greece, or 1930s Spain...

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:46 PM (XuXeR)

78 University of Delaware student arrested with car full of guns, plans to carry out mass shooting — and chilling note about ‘martyrdom’

… I’m liking more and more the idea of an annual “Jihad-a-thon”, where we put the 82nd Airborne and Navy Seals at one end of a valley and all the crazy Islamo-assholes at the other. Sort of like Thunderdome.

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2025 03:46 PM (RHGPo)

79 Beshear is a shifty fuck. Ifn you all want to invade, youre welcome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

Not having any experience with it myself, I can only surmise all gay men are shitty f**ks.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2025 03:46 PM (GjxrJ)

80 So states will have to figure out how to disburse funds that are actually STILL AVAILABLE to their recipients.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (4VZq7)

Will it encourage state governments to conduct audits themselves, and eliminate benefits to abusers?

Or will they still be making more in graft than they lose in admin reimbursements?

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 03, 2025 03:46 PM (zYpTz)

81 Walz has that retard strength.
Posted by: Make It Count Son at December 03, 2025 03:45 PM (m8zKa)

Where does that rank in regards to old man strength?

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 03:46 PM (MGB5H)

82 VOTE VANCE!

Posted by: Sid at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (OFLfN)

83 17 Walz doesn't seem to know when to quit.
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I've never seen a fat Kamikaze Pilot. I don't think they exist.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (Wg6v7)

84
Stellantis is also going to invest billions in building more cars in the US thanks to Duffy's move. And a rep of the auto workers is saying thanks because it's going to mean more jobs.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (4VZq7)

85 "INFURIATING: Afghanistan national is getting $7,000 dollars per month from the taxpayer in California.

They ask their employers to pay them under the table so they don't lose welfare.

"I am calling for a complete AUDIT of California's welfare state!"

The Democrats are throwing a ton of money Gavin Newsom's way. So far he is the #1 Democrat candidate.

God help us!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (NpAcC)

86 "Trump's Ag Secretary: States Will Either Open Their Books So We Can Detect SNAP Fraud, Or We're Cutting Them Off"

This is way overdue but a welcome start.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (0N4FZ)

87 NC might comply but they will fuck you somehow in the process

Posted by: NCKate at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (uQzkA)

88 What's wrong with having two names?
Posted by: Auburn Sports Mascots

Nothing. Now stop asking me questions

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (Ct3NL)

89 Sounds like a terroristic threat to me. "Give me what I want or you dont eat!" Fucking piece of shit. I can't wait.

The legal term is coercion. And yeah, it's illegal. And the states will sue and lower courts will rule in their favor and then the corrupt supreme court overturns it.

in dementia Donald’s weak mind every SNAP recipient is committing fraud until it can be proven otherwise. Very American, very state’s rights and whatever happened to not negotiating with a terrorist?

So why do Blue states send money to the federal government? They contribute more than they receive.

Trump does so many illegal things. It's vital that the people vote in Democrat majorities in the House and Senate so he can be impeached.

Please tell me ICE wouldn't access and use this information...

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (R1nej)

90 but they understand that everyone else is."

Pretty much where we are now...

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (XuXeR)

91 The word for Americans who obey the laws and don't game the system is 'suckers'.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (0U5gm)

92 So states will have to figure out how to disburse funds that are actually STILL AVAILABLE to their recipients.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (4VZq7)

Will it encourage state governments to conduct audits themselves, and eliminate benefits to abusers?

Or will they still be making more in graft than they lose in admin reimbursements?
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Nope. Not a single thing will change. Those blue zones already run deficits. A new expense or a new reduction in revenue won't change that mindset.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:48 PM (TN0g+)

93 62 Beshear is a shifty fuck

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 03, 2025 03:43 PM (zZu0s)

Aren't we all?

Posted by: Mayor Pete at December 03, 2025 03:48 PM (wGerL)

94 $84k per year? That's not welfare. That's a living wage.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2025 03:48 PM (viF8m)

95 I don't see how a $10k unused balance can remain on an EBT account without it triggering an audit.

In my brother's case, he has been audited twice because he gets a lot of food delivered from AMZ or wherever, due to not being able to drive.

They have threatened him with getting cut off twice because they thought he no longer lived in PA.
So I don't get how all this fraud and abuse is happening.

unless they are selective about who they decide to harass
Posted by: kallisto at December 03, 2025 03:38 PM (dCxaZ)
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Selective, and it does depend on the state/city. Believe it or not, NYC is strict on disability pensions. They will send investigators to spy on people claiming disability, to make sure they are really disabled. Every now and again a story makes the news where some worker claimed disability, but then was found playing rugby or something. They can go to jail for it, IIRC.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

96 "The US lost 32,000 jobs last month. It sucks for working families, but looks like a recession is on the way to start 2026.
Posted by: Sid"

Times will be tougher than usual for the clueless

Posted by: Ripley at December 03, 2025 03:48 PM (GUOwU)

97 I know why Oregon is refusing to turn over its files - they are signing up illegals and other ineligible immigrants in violation of Federal law, and have no intention of being caught doing this.

Oregon has more than twice the percentage of people signed up for food stamps than Idaho does.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:49 PM (xTIDn)

98 >82 The US lost 32,000 jobs last month. It sucks for working families, but looks like a recession is on the way to start 2026.

Posted by: Sid at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (OFLfN)

Did your folks have any children that lived?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 03, 2025 03:49 PM (NgqoH)

99 89 Sounds like a terroristic threat to me. "Give me what I want or you dont eat!" Fucking piece of shit. I can't wait.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (R1nej)

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Wait until these people find out about the Department of Education mandates and school funding, including for school lunches.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

100 The only reason not to comply is to protect fraud....which means Democrat run states will never comply.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2025 03:49 PM (YwEeS)

101 Steve Hilton would make a great Governor of California. It's a shame the people in California don't realize it due to the leftwing indoctrination.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (NpAcC)

102 word for Americans who obey the laws and don't game the system is 'suckers'.

Yeah. So why am I paying taxes? Insurance? Mortgage?

Yay me...meh

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (XuXeR)

103 32,000 illegals jobs lost. A fairly good number, but only a start.

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (pDt9x)

104 ***Can't wait for a left-wing rogue judge to be "randomly" assigned to the lawsuit and immediately grant an injunction.
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Doesn't it follow that after an injunction has been cast asunder by the Supremes any similar injunction is null? Therefore it is eliminated as any future obstacle?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (8skTE)

105 Using back of the envelope math, it appears that slightly over half of all government spending is fraudulent.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (0U5gm)

106 New fun chaos in Texas...you have to have a valid Texas driver's license to register a car in the state. No registration = no tags or window sticker.

This started a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: DanMan at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (8uzBS)

107 Oregon has more than twice the percentage of people signed up for food stamps than Idaho does.
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Yep. Compare the California/Florida numbers that appeared up ^^^^^^ the thread.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (TN0g+)

108 I got interviewed here by one of the local retarded children from the MSM. I doubt they’ll use the tape. They basically asked if I supported ICE and I said hell yes, God Bless Them and I wish them much success in getting every last illegal immigrant out of our country. Bint then followed up by asking if I felt that was extreme. I said, not at all it’s the majority view. We have a legal immigration system and if you want to come here the right way you should be using it. Then I added, now get out of the way so I can get my coffee.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (jICxN)

109 The damning thing is that when people accept this as reality (and it is) they change their behavior and the country is lost.

It all adds up -- the college admission BS, the DEI BS, the welfare fraud, the tax fraud, the big tech fraud,...... It is how to lose a country.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 03:41 PM (Ct3NL

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I've accepted it. I'm retiring next month at 56 and getting my insurance with a Obamacare subsidy paid for by you suckers.

However, all the rest of my living expenses will be paid by my retirement fund.

I just need to take out only enough to keep under the subsidy threshold, easy peasy considering that threshold is 400% of the poverty line (about $120k) and I'll be well under that.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (Vh9CX)

110 104 ***Can't wait for a left-wing rogue judge to be "randomly" assigned to the lawsuit and immediately grant an injunction.
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Doesn't it follow that after an injunction has been cast asunder by the Supremes any similar injunction is null? Therefore it is eliminated as any future obstacle?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (8skTE)

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The parties that bring the suits are also supposed to pay bonds to the courts, which the courts never demand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

111 Hey, also: Trump is making an announcement live right now. Sean Duffy is rescinding Biden's fuel economy regulations.

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Why would they do this to the auto-pen?

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 03, 2025 03:51 PM (sX1BW)

112 “Those demands are both unlawful and heartless and it’s not only wrong, but it’s also politically motivated and illegal,” Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield said in a statement. “For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without. Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:51 PM (xTIDn)

113 For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without.

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For my family it is me having a job.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (sX1BW)

114 No more CAFE standards?

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (pDt9x)

115 >>Sounds like a terroristic threat to me. "Give me what I want or you dont eat!" Fucking piece of shit. I can't wait.

Sounds like the IRS. Something I'm sure this dolt is not acquainted with.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (viF8m)

116 “Those demands are both unlawful and heartless and it’s not only wrong, but it’s also politically motivated and illegal,” Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield said in a statement. “For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without. Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:51 PM (xTIDn)
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Hey Dan! FUCK OFF.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (iFTx/)

117 112 “Those demands are both unlawful and heartless and it’s not only wrong, but it’s also politically motivated and illegal,” Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield said in a statement. “For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without. Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:51 PM (xTIDn)

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So...you don't want to find fraud in the system because...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)

118 you have to have a valid Texas driver's license"

"Hey, I got a cousin at the driver's license place on Kuykendal. $500 and you're in..."

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (XuXeR)

119 good

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (xcxpd)

120 VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (OFLfN)
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THIS!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^

Posted by: redridinghood at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (NpAcC)

121 No more CAFE standards?
Posted by: tubal at December 03,

Big Penguin rejoices.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (MGB5H)

122
Will it encourage state governments to conduct audits themselves, and eliminate benefits to abusers?

Or will they still be making more in graft than they lose in admin reimbursements?
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

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We're on a frontier, bay-bay! I think the bare fact that it will force those states to figure out the means and methods of disbursing those funds themselves is significant.

Can you imagine what's going to happen in Sacramento for starters? "Get me three lesbians, a trans-nonbinary bunnyself, two Navajo, five epileptic Black people, and some illegal aliens and set up this agency. Make all the necessary environmental impact checks, translate everything into the 18 Official Languages of California, and make sure every legislator who wants to pork-barrel the construction of a brick-and-mortar office in his/her/their district gets funds."

I think it will go badly.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (4VZq7)

123
I bet you dollars to donuts that some Oregon State Workers are getting SNAP benefits and handing them out to their friends. It's Blue grifting at its best.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (IifOV)

124 120 VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at December 03, 2025 03:47 PM (OFLfN)
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THIS!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^

Posted by: redridinghood at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (NpAcC)

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The only good and proper way to quote a troll.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (GBKbO)

125 Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”
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Well chop chop! You Oregonians better get after it then--you have work to do.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (TN0g+)

126 18 Is this really that big? Look at the fine print:

"If a state won't share data on criminal use of SNAP benefits, it won't get a dollar of federal SNAP administrative funding."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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It's a significant amount. For example, in 2023, California's SNAP Administrative amount received from the Fed Govt. was up over $1.2 Billion. But, you're right, it's not the bulk of the costs, and, honestly, you can't just turn off the hose on everyone without a proper investigation to see who IS abusing the entitlement.

I think this is a nice start, but I'd like to see more pressure applied via legislation that lays down the oversight rules required by the State to benefit from Federal appropriations. The Senate and House need a swift kick in the ass to accomplish this. That puts the ball in the State's court and the risk of cutting off all benefits until they comply is legal...if not moral.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (dIske)

127 Oregon has more than twice the percentage of people signed up for food stamps than Idaho does.

Oregon bureaucrats boast about how many people they've signed up for food stamps.

Drug addicts in Portland buy bottled water with their EBT cards, pour the water out, and return the empties for the deposit for drug money.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (xTIDn)

128 Can an illegal immigrant technically be called 'undocumented' if they have a SNAP card?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (Dv3i1)

129 For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without"

Prove it or STFU.

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (XuXeR)

130 I admit I don’t know the Big Penguin meme, or its’ provenance.

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (pDt9x)

131 I'm starting to think that playing by the rules has been stupid.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 03, 2025 03:36 PM (2UnvF)

Afraid so, my fellow sucker.

Posted by: Rules are for chumps at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (TbWk/)

132 Can an illegal immigrant technically be called 'undocumented' if they have a SNAP card?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (Dv3i1)

Their court date papers are documents.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (MGB5H)

133 126 It's a significant amount. For example, in 2023, California's SNAP Administrative amount received from the Fed Govt. was up over $1.2 Billion. But, you're right, it's not the bulk of the costs, and, honestly, you can't just turn off the hose on everyone without a proper investigation to see who IS abusing the entitlement.

I think this is a nice start, but I'd like to see more pressure applied via legislation that lays down the oversight rules required by the State to benefit from Federal appropriations. The Senate and House need a swift kick in the ass to accomplish this. That puts the ball in the State's court and the risk of cutting off all benefits until they comply is legal...if not moral.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 03:53 PM (dIske)

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The cost of SNAP benefits in 2023 was about $6 billion nationally.

I suspect the SNAP Admin benefits aren't part of the costs normally associated with the program and represent a whole other avenue of fraud.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

134 Can you imagine what's going to happen in Sacramento for starters? "Get me three lesbians, a trans-nonbinary bunnyself, two Navajo, five epileptic Black people, and some illegal aliens and set up this agency.
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Wait, they're sending the Minnesota Vikings Cheerleaders to Sacramento?

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (TN0g+)

135 Every Dem governor on X is posting that Trump wants people to starve to death.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (Dv3i1)

136
I've been shopping and you can tell the difference between the SNAP benefit grocery carts, and the 40 hour week workers shopping cart. I'm 99% correct when I see them pay with their Oregon Trail Card.

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (IifOV)

137 For many families SNAP is the difference between being fat fucks and really really fat fucks.

Posted by: NCKate at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (uQzkA)

138
“For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without. Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”
Posted by: The ARC of History!

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Well then you'd better get your fat ass off those funds and start disbursing them, Dan. Maybe you could step to the window and toss out packs of twenties, whatever. It's up to Oregon now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (4VZq7)

139 Can an illegal immigrant technically be called 'undocumented' if they have a SNAP card?"

Sure. Don't forget they have a RealID too...

Posted by: man at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (XuXeR)

140 The people receiving money in multiple states likely aren't; it's likely just illegals using the same ID as other illegals in another state.
It's why I always laugh at the PC term "undocumented." They're all documented. It's just that they're knowingly using phony documents.

Posted by: Wally at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (s1WXH)

141 Every Dem governor on X is posting that Trump wants people to starve to death.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 03, 2025 03:55 PM (Dv3i1)

And everyone is pointing out the benefits are not being touched.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (MGB5H)

142 Total vibe, messaging and policy shift over the last couple of weeks. I can feel my white pudding like discharge leak out of my soul. Replaced with healthy smiles and a positive attitude.

Posted by: GigantorX at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (0ac+N)

143 Pritzker could feed a family of 8 for a month.

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (pDt9x)

144 “Those demands are both unlawful and heartless and it’s not only wrong, but it’s also politically motivated and illegal,” Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield said in a statement. “For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without. Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:51 PM (xTIDn)

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So...you don't want to find fraud in the system because...?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:52 PM (GBKbO)
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Yea, that's the thing that I don't think even the GOP is going a good job talking about: this isn't about cutting SNAP benefits, changing recipient eligibility, or anything that actually affects any real person from getting SNAP.

This is 100% about fairly obvious SNAP fraud, like dead people getting benefits. And still the blue states are taking this to the mat. Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (iFTx/)

145 As has been noted, at a minimum, 30pct of any federal, state, city our municipal budget is straight graft, corruption and theft of taxpayer money.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (XV/Pl)

146 yo

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (DeNdk)

147 “For many families, SNAP is the difference between having groceries on the table and going without. Feeding Oregonians is not a political negotiation.”

People don't know that groceries need to be put away in the fridge or the pantry? They just leave them on the table?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (Dv3i1)

148 144 Yea, that's the thing that I don't think even the GOP is going a good job talking about: this isn't about cutting SNAP benefits, changing recipient eligibility, or anything that actually affects any real person from getting SNAP.

This is 100% about fairly obvious SNAP fraud, like dead people getting benefits. And still the blue states are taking this to the mat. Gee, I wonder why?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (iFTx/)

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SNAP costs went from $4 billion in 2020 to about $8 billion in 2024.

Because the Biden economy was great, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

149 New fun chaos in Texas...you have to have a valid Texas driver's license to register a car in the state. No registration = no tags or window sticker.

This started a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: DanMan

I'm happy about it. According to my insurance agent, 30 percent of vehicles in DFW are being driven by illegals with no insurance. Not only will insurance rates drop, traffic will improve.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (0U5gm)

150 146 yo
Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (DeNdk)

ho

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (pDt9x)

151 What rationale can these Dem governors give to NOT provide the data? Seems like they just yell at the sky and then act like someone has done them wrong, and yet.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (6Bc88)

152 150 146 yo
Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (DeNdk)

ho
Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (pDt9x)

You can keep your ho there.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at December 03, 2025 03:58 PM (6Bc88)

153 translate everything into the 18 Official Languages of California,

The Portland paper had an article - there are now 50,000 people in Oregon from Mexico and Central America who speak neither English or Spanish - they only speak one of the many local tribal languages (which can vary from village to village).

Naturally, this has caused the growth of a luxuriant translation and social welfare bureaucracy to meet their needs.

I'm sure they're all here legally, though. /s

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 03, 2025 03:58 PM (xTIDn)

154 151 What rationale can these Dem governors give to NOT provide the data? Seems like they just yell at the sky and then act like someone has done them wrong, and yet.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (6Bc8

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"Trump will deport true Americans like illegal immigrants as well as homegrown immigrants. We are here to protect people and to be generous to people, not to cast them out into the horrorshow lands across the border (borders are just lines on maps, by the way, and mean nothing)."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)

155
Administrative funding, presumably that's what pays the salaries of state government employees who hand out the checks? I could see a state like CA covering this out of their own pocket for a while.

I was wondering about pausing the payments themselves, then remembered that everyone getting SNAP benefits is being made to reapply.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 03, 2025 03:59 PM (azNOR)

156 143 Pritzker could feed a family of 8 for a month.
Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:56 PM (pDt9x)

Or poison them.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 03, 2025 03:59 PM (6Bc88)

157 New fun chaos in Texas...you have to have a valid Texas driver's license to register a car in the state. No registration = no tags or window sticker.

This started a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: DanMan

I'm happy about it. According to my insurance agent, 30 percent of vehicles in DFW are being driven by illegals with no insurance. Not only will insurance rates drop, traffic will improve.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (0U5gm)
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What will supercar owners do when they can no longer register their Lambos in Montana and not pay any sales tax?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 03, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

158 What rationale can these Dem governors give to NOT provide the data? Seems like they just yell at the sky and then act like someone has done them wrong, and yet.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at December

Trump is icky.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 03:59 PM (MGB5H)

159 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

____________________

Total cost of SNAP in 2024 inclusive of Administrative costs and Benefit payment was up over $100 Billion. Administrative costs make up about 10% of the whole.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 03:59 PM (dIske)

160 And everyone is pointing out the benefits are not being touched.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Also pointing out that they just have to release the records like most states have already done.

But don't get into the weeds about all these complicated details when people are going to STARVE!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 03, 2025 03:59 PM (Dv3i1)

161 I've been shopping and you can tell the difference between the SNAP benefit grocery carts, and the 40 hour week workers shopping cart. I'm 99% correct when I see them pay with their Oregon Trail Card.

Posted by: Frank Barone

The ones on EBT have all of the steaks, soft drinks and candy bars in them. The average EBT for a family of four is more than my grocery budget for a family of four, and I have to pay for both of them.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 04:00 PM (0U5gm)

162 translating into jibberish is that not enough,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at December 03, 2025 04:00 PM (bXbFr)

163 End the theft of Tax money
That will be a good fight

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)

164 BabylonBee: Minnesota Vikings Change Name To Minnesota Somali Pirates

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2025 04:01 PM (RHGPo)

165 No more robbing the American taxpayer.
......

Then what's the point of government?

Posted by: wth at December 03, 2025 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

166 What rationale can these Dem governors give to NOT provide the data? Seems like they just yell at the sky and then act like someone has done them wrong, and yet.

Posted by: tcn

They have millions of illegals in the state in order to boost their congressional representation without the necessity of earning their vote, and some stupid sucker has to pay for it, so you the taxpayer are the sucker they chose.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 04:01 PM (0U5gm)

167 I admit I don’t know the Big Penguin meme, or its’ provenance.
Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (pDt9x)

That's just how Big Penguin likes it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2025 04:02 PM (ExV1e)

168 136
I've been shopping and you can tell the difference between the SNAP benefit grocery carts, and the 40 hour week workers shopping cart. I'm 99% correct when I see them pay with their Oregon Trail Card.
Posted by: Frank Barone

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There is another thing no one talks about --
They talk about the "benefit cliff" where you have to make $120k or more to live as well as someone on benefits... and how that keeps people stuck in poverty and not working.

But there is a moral cliff too. A person has to pay a very high price to be moral at all income levels. If you decide to live a moral life, you are punished by the government. This is a travesty.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 04:02 PM (Ct3NL)

169 I can remember a time when people were ashamed to take welfare. Then along came LBJ.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:03 PM (i+bC1)

170 "The US lost 32,000 jobs last month. It sucks for working families, but looks like a recession is on the way to start 2026.
Posted by: Sid"

Times will be tougher than usual for the clueless
Posted by: Ripley at December 03, 2025 03:48 PM

.02% of private sector jobs. Also, 9K of that is construction, in Winter. That may not be unusual.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 03, 2025 04:03 PM (jc0TO)

171 Criminal prosecution for every civil servant that processed those fruadulent accounts.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2025 04:03 PM (sDNVV)

172 What rationale can these Dem governors give to NOT provide the data? Seems like they just yell at the sky and then act like someone has done them wrong, and yet.
Posted by: tcn

Trump is icky.
Posted by: BruceWayne

ORANGE MAN VERY BAD! RACIST FASCIST NAZI THAT STARVES BROWN PEOPLE!

Posted by: REN BOETHLISBERGER at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (R1nej)

173 #168 cont.

(I forgot to make my point.)

Those people who are working and buying necessities look at the SNAP grocery carts and it is like being slapped in the face. They suffer for being moral and working hard. Every day. They see it on the roads with the SUVs, they see it with the Christmas displays, and they see it in the grocery stores.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (Ct3NL)

174 What’s this talk of eliminating plastic shopping bags? The hell you say. What am I going to put over the heads of people who mistakenly walk across my property and get tied to a tree?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (jICxN)

175 Already 2 Trillion Children and Persons of Color have DIED because TRUMP DOES NOT CARE by cutting off their FRUADULANT SNAP Benefits.

I call on a Hawaiian Judge to STOP THIS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (J9q9v)

176 What’s this talk of eliminating plastic shopping bags? The hell you say. What am I going to put over the heads of people who mistakenly walk across my property and get tied to a tree?
Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (jICxN)

Plastic wrap works nicely.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (MGB5H)

177 Government money ALWAYS comes with strings.

Always.

So yeah. When Fedgov wants to see the books, you show them or you won't get more.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (nFDf9)

178 I'm 99% correct when I see them pay with their Oregon Trail Card.
Posted by: Frank Barone

Make death by dysentery great again?

Posted by: The Oregon Trail at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (R1nej)

179 Don’t the states refusing to give up that data already file suit in some friendly court, and the court is sitting on the case to buy them time?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (jICxN)

180 Not only will insurance rates drop, traffic will improve.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 03:57 PM (0U5gm)

Oh, my sweet summer child.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (ExV1e)

181 174 What’s this talk of eliminating plastic shopping bags? The hell you say. What am I going to put over the heads of people who mistakenly walk across my property and get tied to a tree?
Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (jICxN)

We love them, lots of ways to repurpose.

Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (pDt9x)

182 I admit I don’t know the Big Penguin meme, or its’ provenance.
Posted by: tubal at December 03, 2025 03:54 PM (pDt9x)

That's just how Big Penguin likes it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Tucker, Candace, and Fuentes are on it!

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

183 Always keep in mind, never forget. FDR was correct when he.said something like “Nothing happens in politics by accident, if something happens, someone wants it that way”.

Why wasn’t this being done 40 years ago?

The answer to this, of course, and many many other questions, should be painfully obvious to even the most dull witted mouth breathers out there amongst us by now.

Americans don’t have to put up with this shit. We never did.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (5Td2u)

184 Waste and fraud and abuse.
Waste and fraud and abuse.
Oh my!

Posted by: Dorothy at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (v0R5T)

185 "Give us Socialism! Life is unaffordable!"
–Millennials, 2025

"No person can be illegal! Free shit for everyone!"
–Also Millennials, 2025

Posted by: red speck at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (Ve/HL)

186 ORANGE MAN VERY BAD! RACIST FASCIST NAZI THAT STARVES BROWN PEOPLE!
Posted by: REN BOETHLISBERGER at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (R1nej)

This a Racist Statement !!!! What about Green, Yellow, Purple, Blue, and Red People ??? Why only Brown People ??

Posted by: Jackson at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (38587)

187 >> Plastic wrap works nicely.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:05 PM (MGB5H)

This is why I love this place. Always innovating.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (jICxN)

188 Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2025 04:01

Now that is funny!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2025 04:06 PM (GLmO1)

189 169 I can remember a time when people were ashamed to take welfare. Then along came LBJ.
Posted by: Eromero

And 80+ million third world migrants of various legal statuses.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:07 PM (R1nej)

190
Sounds like a terroristic threat to me. "Give me what I want or you dont eat!" Fucking piece of shit. I can't wait.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions

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haha, they can eat just fine as long as their blue state bureaucracies get on it.

If they need tips on government efficiency, they could always ask Ron DeSantis.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 04:07 PM (4VZq7)

191 Democrat Jack Reed dismisses criminals smuggling illegal drugs into the U.S. as not "narco-terrorists," just people trying to make money.

"Usually, people are not significantly involved...It's the way they make money."

... I wonder what money Sen Reed is innocently sampling.

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2025 04:07 PM (RHGPo)

192 The cost of SNAP benefits in 2023 was about $6 billion nationally.

I suspect the SNAP Admin benefits aren't part of the costs normally associated with the program and represent a whole other avenue of fraud.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_____________

I'm seeing $154 billion for 2023 on the interwebs.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 03, 2025 04:07 PM (XvL8K)

193 In case it's not clear from the above, this is NOT cutting off the bennies themselves; it's cutting off the money to administer them.

So states will have to figure out how to disburse funds that are actually STILL AVAILABLE to their recipients.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 03:34 PM (4VZq7)
============

Maybe it's better if the state governments were out of the administrative disbursements of federal funds business. Maybe the answer is to turn SNAP disbursements over to private third-party companies with a bonus for accurate, prompt funding for verified beneficiaries. Banks, for example. Banks have no problem saying NO to unqualified candidates.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (rj6Yv)

194 quawk quawk quawk

I liked the silly version of the penguin, not the creepier iterations of devito and later colin farrell

Posted by: miguel cervantes at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (bXbFr)

195 192 The cost of SNAP benefits in 2023 was about $6 billion nationally.

I suspect the SNAP Admin benefits aren't part of the costs normally associated with the program and represent a whole other avenue of fraud.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_____________

I'm seeing $154 billion for 2023 on the interwebs.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 03, 2025 04:07 PM (XvL8K)

======

Yeah, it's the higher number. I was wrong.

I'm trying to remember where I heard the $6 billion number. It was probably some sector of the SNAP program.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

196 Bring back food stamps.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (jc0TO)

197
A Russian cosmonaut slated to ride on the Crew-12 mission to the ISS has been removed and PNG'd:

https://is.gd/dmsVFw

You know how we do this. A Rooskie rides with us on the SpaceX Dragon, and one of ours rides with the Rooskies on the Soyuz.

Well, this guy was slated to ride on the next crew mission aboard Dragon, but got caught taking pictures of classified SpaceX shit on his phone trying to sneak it out.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (w6EFb)

198 This a Racist Statement !!!! What about Green, Yellow, Purple, Blue, and Red People ??? Why only Brown People ??
Posted by: Jackson

YOU'RE RIGHT! I FORGOT THE QUEER COMMUNITY! THEY'RE HURT THE MOST.

Posted by: REN BOETHLISBERGER at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (R1nej)

199 BabylonBee: Minnesota Vikings Change Name To Minnesota Somali Pirates
Posted by: SMOD

Waaaay ahead of you.

Posted by: City of Pittsburgh at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (w9Wax)

200
Total cost of SNAP in 2024 inclusive of Administrative costs and Benefit payment was up over $100 Billion. Administrative costs make up about 10% of the whole.
Posted by: Orson

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I'm shocked it's that low.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM (4VZq7)

201 $100 Billion in 2024 for SNAP, supposedly down because some of the COVID enhancers were no longer in use.

Posted by: Crusader at December 03, 2025 04:09 PM (TN0g+)

202 Banks, for example. Banks have no problem saying NO to unqualified candidates.
Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM

*Fanny May and Freddie Mac whistle innocently and back towards the door*

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:09 PM (MGB5H)

203 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

2m
BREAKING: President Trump just went full TAKEDOWN MODE on the Democrats constantly screaming "affordability"

"They look at you and say...AFFORDABILITY! They don't say anything else."

"'It's all about affordability!' They NEVER talk about the specifics. Everything was through the roof [with them!] Eggs were 4 times higher, we got the prices down!"

"'This election is about affordability.' Then they go to the next subject. IT'S A CON JOB! They caused the highest prices and worst inflation IN HISTORY!"

"They look at you and say AFFORDABILITY! But nothing else."

"No. They had the WORST inflation. HIGHEST prices. And now, they're coming down."

"They're GREAT con people. It's like the 'Inflation Reduction Act...' then they admitted it had NOTHING to do with inflation!"

https://tinyurl.com/kewhujdw

Posted by: redridinghood at December 03, 2025 04:10 PM (NpAcC)

204 The refusal and lawsuit is nothing but an attempt to delay. They’re hoping to stretch this out until someone friendly to them says they don’t have to provide it. There is more than enough caselaw, actual regulations and rules written into the program to allow FedGov to request that information. It’s right in the law. They can audit the program and can withhold funds for noncompliance.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (jICxN)

205 ADP data is garbage. In June it showed a 33k loss in jobs, then the BLS number showed a positive 147k jobs for the same month.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (kz78D)

206 Banks, for example. Banks have no problem saying NO to unqualified candidates.
Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:08 PM

*Fanny May and Freddie Mac whistle innocently and back towards the door*
-----

Yeah, let's not do that. During the Biden cabal's term the Banks showed they will jump right on any opportunity to be political, regardless of their shareholders.

Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (TN0g+)

207 Is this “Socialism”?

As a point of order, even the Bolsheviks, the Soviet Union did not allow anyone to lay about getting free food. They assigned you a job. You will report to the Glorious Widget Factory 232 by 8 am Monday, or Else.

They weren’t that stupid - and they were pretty fucking stupid make no mistake - to pay people not to work.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (qBPIs)

208 TPUAS (finally) delivers DIRECT response Candace Owens, and her insane claims. "Reckless disregard for the truth", "Absurd", "Beneath Contempt", "Do not feed the trolls", "Falsehoods to enrich herself"... LOL . and they invited her to challenge them on their future livestream disproving all her claims. OK. If that is they way they want to play it, but she is evil enough to make them all, with all their truth look bad. Remember folks, she started in this business by doxing teenagers - on the right side.

Posted by: runner at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (g47mK)

209 174 What’s this talk of eliminating plastic shopping bags? The hell you say. What am I going to put over the heads of people who mistakenly walk across my property and get tied to a tree?
Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:04 PM (jICxN)
I already spilled my coffee on the outside of my clean jeans, and now you almost made me piss in them.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (i+bC1)

210
Maybe the answer is to turn SNAP disbursements over to private third-party companies with a bonus for accurate, prompt funding for verified beneficiaries. Banks, for example. Banks have no problem saying NO to unqualified candidates.
Posted by: mrp

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That's when it's their own money, however. If the federal government starts paying them per transaction...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 04:12 PM (4VZq7)

211 How about the Feds withholding ALL of the funding for non-compliance?

Quit screwing around with these creeps. Smack 'em upside the haid!

Posted by: Brewingfrog at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (R8cfm)

212 The ones on EBT have all of the steaks, soft drinks and candy bars in them. The average EBT for a family of four is more than my grocery budget for a family of four, and I have to pay for both of them.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

And the left will squeal that the average snap benefit is $86.

Maybe $86 a day. People wouldn't be squealing like stuck pigs if it was only $86 a month.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (nFDf9)

213 *Fanny May and Freddie Mac whistle innocently and back towards the door*
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:09 PM (MGB5H)
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A slightly different clientele, to be sure.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (rj6Yv)

214 A Russian cosmonaut slated to ride on the Crew-12 mission to the ISS has been removed and PNG'd:

They sent him to Papua New Guinea?

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)

215 I'm happy about it. According to my insurance agent, 30 percent of vehicles in DFW are being driven by illegals with no insurance. Not only will insurance rates drop, traffic will improve.

my agent sez its 2 out of 5 and I believe it. I hadn't had an accident or ticket in decades and 2022 brought two wrecks caused by no insurance drivers

Posted by: DanMan at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (8uzBS)

216 Didn't know that Tucker Carson slummed here.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 03, 2025 04:14 PM (EyfuW)

217 They weren’t that stupid - and they were pretty fucking stupid make no mistake - to pay people not to work.
Posted by: Common Tater

"He who does not work, neither shall he eat" is a biblical aphorism derived from II Thessalonians 3:10, traditionally attributed to Paul the Apostle, and was later adopted and reinterpreted by the international socialist and communist movements.

Vladimir Lenin cited the phrase in his 1917 work The State and Revolution as a foundational principle of socialism, arguing that in the first phase of communist society, only productive individuals should have access to consumption goods, marking a break from bourgeois law which allowed unequal individuals to receive equal products despite unequal labor.

This principle was enshrined in the 1918 Russian Constitution and later in Article 12 of the 1936 Soviet Constitution, which declared work a duty and honor for every able-bodied citizen.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:15 PM (R1nej)

218 196 Bring back food stamps.
Posted by: toby928
Cheese. Peanut nutter.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:15 PM (i+bC1)

219 215 I'm happy about it. According to my insurance agent, 30 percent of vehicles in DFW are being driven by illegals with no insurance. Not only will insurance rates drop, traffic will improve.

my agent sez its 2 out of 5 and I believe it. I hadn't had an accident or ticket in decades and 2022 brought two wrecks caused by no insurance drivers
Posted by: DanMan at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (8uzBS)

Granddaughter was hit by what was no doubt an illegal or at least an uninsured Hispanic and he ran.... Her car was totaled luckily she wasn't hurt

Posted by: It's me donna at December 03, 2025 04:16 PM (VE6XX)

220 That's when it's their own money, however. If the federal government starts paying them per transaction...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 04:12 PM (4VZq7)
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It's a helluva lot easier making bank CEOs sweat than an amorphous blob of state government appointees. And a helluva lot easier to cut off the money pipeline to a private firm for non-compliance and/or malfeasance issues than a state government.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:16 PM (rj6Yv)

221 This principle was enshrined in the 1918 Russian Constitution and later in Article 12 of the 1936 Soviet Constitution, which declared work a duty and honor for every able-bodied citizen.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December

And those in power got to define "able-bodied citizen".

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:17 PM (MGB5H)

222 I have a theory for SNAP -- make them work.

The work could be anything -- I think I said playing Mine Sweeper a couple weeks ago.

Make them play that 8 hours a day. But give them 11 windows so they have to play, and monitor 10 other players.
This way it is scaleable and self monitoring. It would be easy to make an app to do it.

And make it all public so other people can monitor them.

You have to do it. 8 hours a day. 5 days a week. No play, no pay.

Or, get a fucking job you loser.

(Or course, exceptions for actual disabled, elderly, etc. but very strict and also public and monitored.)

Pay public bounty to find cheaters.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 03, 2025 04:17 PM (Ct3NL)

223 218 196 Bring back food stamps.
Posted by: toby928
Cheese. Peanut nutter.
Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:15 PM (i+bC1)

Bring back shame.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 03, 2025 04:17 PM (QsMb/)

224 "They're GREAT con people. It's like the 'Inflation Reduction Act...' then they admitted it had NOTHING to do with inflation!"

Tee hee. Too late.

Posted by: DNC at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (v0R5T)

225 >> I already spilled my coffee on the outside of my clean jeans, and now you almost made me piss in them.
Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (i+bC1)

If I ever get free and am able to attend a MOME, I’m going to fill my 2 day pack with duct tape, bailing wire, a propane torch, pliers, a cleaver, nails and a ball peen hammer. First order of business will be to dump that on the table as I pretend to look for my wallet.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (jICxN)

226 The average EBT benefit for a family of four is $850 per month, with almost no restriction on the funds.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (0U5gm)

227 ""Can't wait for a left-wing rogue judge to be "randomly" assigned to the lawsuit and immediately grant an injunction.""

Can't wait for when throwing them into volcanoes with polyester clothes becomes a national past time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (snZF9)

228 NYT headline

Trump threatens to withhold snap funding from Democratic States

See how mean he is? He’s starving children just because they’re democrats!!!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (kz78D)

229 "The others, including California, New York, and Minnesota, refused outright. Rollins said that refusal has consequences. Starting next week, she announced, "the money stops moving" until those states comply."

On what possible basis could they refuse to share data? "I don't wanna!"

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (gDhA9)

230 Bring back shame.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 03, 202

Institute the Game of Thrones shame walk.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (MGB5H)

231 218 196 Bring back food stamps.
Posted by: toby928

Cheese. Peanut nutter.
Posted by: Eromero

Oh, I love me some hot, gooey nutter!

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at December 03, 2025 04:19 PM (R1nej)

232 To me the handouts to Illegals is driving the country downward.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:19 PM (Ia/+0)

233 >>Bring back shame.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 03, 2025 04:17 PM (QsMb/)

Shame!

Shame!

COME BACK, SHAME!

Posted by: Little Annoying Kid at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (DeNdk)

234 See how mean he is? He’s starving children just because they’re democrats!!!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (kz78D)

I wish.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (MGB5H)

235 A Russian cosmonaut slated to ride on the Crew-12 mission to the ISS has been removed and PNG'd:

They sent him to Papua New Guinea?
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)

***

Is being new cosmodrome there. Being making good rockets.
Very nice.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (y3bZw)

236
On what possible basis could they refuse to share data? "I don't wanna!"

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (gDhA9)

On what basis can they refuse to allow ICE to do their legal jobs ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (VE6XX)

237 NASA Administrator Nominee Jared Isaacman delivers a powerful and urgent opening message at his confirmation hearing:

“The last time I sat before you, I introduced myself, my qualifications, and the challenges and opportunities ahead. This time, I'm here with a message of urgency.”

“I know it's not lost on anyone in this room that we are in a great competition with a rival that has the will and the means to challenge American exceptionalism across multiple domains, including in the high ground of space. This is not the time for delay, but a time for action, because if we fall behind, if we make a mistake, we may never catch up, and the consequences could shift the balance of power here on Earth.”

“I'm here to bring urgency and an extreme focus to the mission to do all I can working with the best and brightest at NASA to lead humanity's efforts to unlock the secrets of the universe and ensure American leadership across the last great frontier.”

Posted by: SMOD at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (RHGPo)

238 Bring back food stamps.

bring back protein packaged in drab green cans and boxes placed on the lower shelves, anybody can buy them but it takes food stamps if you're enrolled in welfare and with no money

Posted by: DanMan at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (8uzBS)

239 Government cheese is a human right.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (nfW/y)

240 >. You will report to the Glorious Widget Factory 232 by 8 am Monday, or Else.

They weren’t that stupid - and they were pretty fucking stupid make no mistake - to pay people not to work.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (qBPIs)

You'd be surprised how motivated people are with a gun to their back.

Posted by: Pol Pot at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (NgqoH)

241 Yeah, let's not do that. During the Biden cabal's term the Banks showed they will jump right on any opportunity to be political, regardless of their shareholders.
Posted by: Crusader, former Federal Bank Examiner at December 03, 2025 04:11 PM (TN0g+)
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And state governments are apolitical?

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (rj6Yv)

242 Fantastic news!

My wish for 2026 is to never see pedo mouth Walz again.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (WONhk)

243 226 The average EBT benefit for a family of four is $850 per month, with almost no restriction on the funds.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

ALMOST no restrictions. I just saw a video of a woman trying to buy weed with her EBT card, and after the guy kept refusing, she tried to steal it.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (R1nej)

244 Meanwhile, in the very sane media, "Former Fox News host says Hegseth should be executed".

Uhh, ok?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2025 04:21 PM (2ocoG)

245 ALMOST no restrictions. I just saw a video of a woman trying to buy weed with her EBT card, and after the guy kept refusing, she tried to steal it.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:20 PM (R1nej)

That's why you sell at a discount for cash.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:21 PM (MGB5H)

246
What rationale can these Dem governors give to NOT provide the data?

Racism?
Classism?
Trump is a poopy head?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (pkeXY)

247 bring back protein packaged in drab green cans and boxes placed on the lower shelves, anybody can buy them but it takes food stamps if you're enrolled in welfare and with no money
Posted by: DanMan

Hear me out...

Posted by: Soylent Green at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (R1nej)

248 @Tim_Walz "and then Judge West my p*nis accidentally fell into my wife's sister 47 times over several years and I had no idea it was happening," he explained.... @keithellison @realDonaldTrump @FBIDirectorKash @AGPamBondi Judge West is funnier than a comic book.

Posted by: sven at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (MUJd1)

249 To be clear, some of this is waste and fraud. Some of it is likely just a system largely running on autopilot. Some guy gets two SNAP cards...you think he calls it in and reports it? or does he order extra fires at McDonalds? Your mother dies, but her snap cards keep refilling? You think her kids aren't going to have steak for dinner?

Bets thing we could do is make snap cards only eligible for the BASICS. No prepackaged food, just the raw material to make food. Flour, butter, salt, meat, vegetables, etc.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (gDhA9)

250 This principle was enshrined in the 1918 Russian Constitution and later in Article 12 of the 1936 Soviet Constitution, which declared work a duty and honor for every able-bodied citizen.
Posted by: Moron Analyst

I know that it's quite a fall from Paul to Lenin, but I don't necessarily disagree with this idea. Having been out of work for almost 2 1/2 years, I see how much poorer my life seems without a job. Work gives people dignity and purpose, and even a kind of joy when we do our jobs correctly. And the economy certainly benefits from having as many people work as are able, including those with physical and/or mental disabilities.

It's mandating what kind of work an individual or a group of individuals do that is the problem.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)

251
I'd like to see more pressure applied via legislation that lays down the oversight rules required by the State to benefit from Federal appropriations. The Senate and House need a swift kick in the ass to accomplish this.

Posted by: Orson

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Don't you think those rules already exist, but they're not being enforced?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 04:23 PM (4VZq7)

252 Bets thing we could do is make snap cards only eligible for the BASICS. No prepackaged food, just the raw material to make food. Flour, butter, salt, meat, vegetables, etc.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney

Used to be much closer to that. Then Big Soda and Big Candy had to get their beaks wet.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:23 PM (MGB5H)

253 Not sure live but on Newsmax President Trump tearing up Illegals

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (Ia/+0)

254 If those states turn over the data, then the entire country will have to be redistricted.

Can you imagine the impact of showing that 50 million illegal aliens are getting paid over $5K a month in housing and food stamps, and destroying our educational system, which is being used for free daycare, and destroying our health care system, and all paid for with borrowed money, just so that democrats can have 30 or so extra seats in congress?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (0U5gm)

255 >> They sent him to Papua New Guinea?

Persona Non Grata. It means get out and don't ever come back. That's an official term only for diplomats, really, but that's the gist of it.

NASA seems to be keeping quiet about this. Arresting a cosmonaut would be a BFD, so they've just kicked him, seems like.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (w6EFb)

256 I think it is live news conference

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (Ia/+0)

257 249 To be clear, some of this is waste and fraud. Some of it is likely just a system largely running on autopilot. Some guy gets two SNAP cards...you think he calls it in and reports it? or does he order extra fires at McDonalds? Your mother dies, but her snap cards keep refilling? You think her kids aren't going to have steak for dinner?

Bets thing we could do is make snap cards only eligible for the BASICS. No prepackaged food, just the raw material to make food. Flour, butter, salt, meat, vegetables, etc.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (gDhA9)

This, exactly. And no food more than X dollars/lb or unit (so no high end meat/fish)...

Let RFK's folks make the allowed food list...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (tOcjL)

258 On what possible basis could they refuse to share data? "I don't wanna!"

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:18 PM (gDhA9)

It is an easy cross walk to voter rolls.That scares the hell out of blue state politicians.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (y3bZw)

259 If there is no fraud then there is nothing to hide.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (cxfG8)

260 253 Not sure live but on Newsmax President Trump tearing up Illegals
Posted by: Skip

!!!!

Oh. Figuratively and rhetorically. 😔

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:25 PM (R1nej)

261 Like I've said many times before, I once worked in a convenience store.

I know how people spend their government-supplied food money, and it isn't pretty.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:25 PM (rj6Yv)

262 Marcus T, that wouldn't even get noticed at the TXMoMe. Standard stuff around the ranch.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 03, 2025 04:26 PM (sDNVV)

263 They also need to look at unemployment fraud. The dead husband of a niece did this for years. He was once, and the only job we knew of, a "manager" of 15 people at a Grub Hub in Shitcago. Big woop.

For YEARS he would collect unemployment by only applying for "manager" jobs. It could have been a manager job for a defense contract, or NASA, did not matter. He knew he'd fail to get the job. This was his racket for pot money til his SSI when his liver was failing. He also lied that he was "Native American" vs being Mexican. I still have no idea if his parents were here illegally.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 03, 2025 04:26 PM (WONhk)

264 A great Christmas Gift for your friends and family are my personally certified Carbon Credit Coupons to help fight Global Warming.

Only $100 per Carbon Credit... Hurry soon because this generous offer ends on 31 December 2025

Save the children's future by doing your part now !!!!!

Posted by: Al Gore at December 03, 2025 04:26 PM (J9q9v)

265
I think it is live news conference
Posted by: Skip

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It's a live news conference to announce the end of CAFE standards.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 03, 2025 04:27 PM (4VZq7)

266 Posted by: Al Gore

Fuck off, tubby.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:27 PM (MGB5H)

267 AlGore is not carbon neutral yet? Get on the cart!

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 03, 2025 04:28 PM (cxfG8)

268 Bets thing we could do is make snap cards only eligible for the BASICS. No prepackaged food, just the raw material to make food. Flour, butter, salt, meat, ~~vegetables, etc.~~ and beets
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law

Posted by: wth at December 03, 2025 04:28 PM (v0R5T)

269 500,000 people receiving benefits twice.
186,000 dead people receiving benefits.

My guess - the numbers in new Yor, Minnesota, and California are going to be off the charts. Those states alone having double or triple what the other 29 states reported.

The states know that. because they have not managed these programs, for decades, in accordance with federal law. because they doled out SNAOP cards to anyone who wanted them.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:28 PM (gDhA9)

270 It's a live news conference to announce the end of CAFE standards.

Like, the complete end, not just dropping Biden's standards?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2025 04:28 PM (2ocoG)

271 I'm going to assume that the administrative appropriations to various blue states are used for other programs, which is the primary reason they don't wish to open the books. Leftist politicians don't care about their constituents. They care about themselves.

So, it should be entertaining to see where the $15 Billion to $20 Billion in administrative costs ended up. I'm guessing we are financing some radical transgender story hours up and down the west coast using SNAP administrative funds.

Posted by: Orson at December 03, 2025 04:28 PM (dIske)

272 261 Like I've said many times before, I once worked in a convenience store.

I know how people spend their government-supplied food money, and it isn't pretty.
Posted by: mrp

My son, already cynical, works as a dealer at a casino. It has not improved his opinion of humanity.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:29 PM (R1nej)

273 To me the handouts to Illegals is driving the country downward.
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Um…. That’s the whole point. Seriously. Everyone has to get that in their head. The issue is never the issue.

The issue is the Revolution. Everything is on the table, “by any means necessary” is not just a slogan. They’ll push their grandmother down the stairs to achieve it. Although, they’ll push your grandmother down the stairs first.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 03, 2025 04:29 PM (qBPIs)

274 Keep leaving out the sugar for the ants to eat, and don’t be surprised if you get ants.

But MN’s government has made it clear: it HATES Americans and wishes to dissolve the people and elect another.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 03, 2025 04:29 PM (6KcYW)

275 Darn it, I missed the disability/college/AuDHD thread. I have so many thoughts on that!

Like tears in the rain...

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 04:29 PM (gWBY1)

276 That's why you sell at a discount for cash.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 03, 2025 04:21 PM (MGB5H)

or sex. or gas for the car. movie tickets. game tickets. X box games. You name it, it's probably been paid for, eventually, by the taxpayers.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2025 04:30 PM (rj6Yv)

277 I have only one rule: Everyone fights, and nobody quits.
Starship Troopers.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:30 PM (gDhA9)

278 Every government program is at least 25% fraud. From snap to disability to defense contracts.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 03, 2025 04:30 PM (kz78D)

279 The states know that. because they have not managed these programs, for decades, in accordance with federal law. because they doled out SNAOP cards to anyone who wanted them.

Posted by: El Mariachi

They were boosting their congressional representation by funding illegals to live in their state, and using our money to pay for it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 04:30 PM (0U5gm)

280 In Azerbaijan all the women on public assistance must sweep the streets every fucking day. And get this, the broom handles are short and require stooping to sweep. There are head counts, too. Let's go this route for a while and see if morale is improved.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 03, 2025 04:30 PM (Wg6v7)

281 The self selected elites want to pick a new populace.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 03, 2025 04:31 PM (cxfG8)

282 He also lied that he was "Native American" vs being Mexican. I still have no idea if his parents were here illegally.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

Whoa, let's not get too hasty here...did you see his cheekbones?

Posted by: Sen. Warren at December 03, 2025 04:31 PM (R1nej)

283 When the community organizers came down south in the early 60s they promised ‘county checks’ to po folk. This scam is not new.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:31 PM (i+bC1)

284 Just to give credit - this was something DOGE uncovered and flagged.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:32 PM (gDhA9)

285 Good.

If we're to have any welfare programs, they must be rigidly and strictly - even viciously - enforced with lots of strings.

Aggressive fraud detection and elimination.
Strict rules about receipt. On drugs? No benefits. Non-citizen? No benefits. Able to work? No benefits.

Get hard with it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 03, 2025 04:32 PM (odPvD)

286 My son, already cynical, works as a dealer at a casino. It has not improved his opinion of humanity.
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Snort. Can he palm a card?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 03, 2025 04:32 PM (Wg6v7)

287 Bets thing we could do is make snap cards only eligible for the BASICS. No prepackaged food, just the raw material to make food. Flour, butter, salt, meat, vegetables, etc.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (gDhA9)

No. Best thing we can do is get the government out of that business and let civil society (food banks, churches, etc) take over.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 03, 2025 04:32 PM (6KcYW)

288 have I lose my fastball or is it too over the top?

I need to know I cannot reach the normies anymore?

Posted by: sven at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (MUJd1)

289 Hahahahaha

DEI resident left early.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (W2Pud)

290 Get hard with it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Oh my!

Posted by: George Takei at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (R1nej)

291 But MN’s government has made it clear: it HATES Americans and wishes to dissolve the people and elect another.

MN is where the regular Democrats are too right-wing so they instead have the DFL, Democratic Farmers and Laborers, which is to the left of the DNC (but still aligns with it for national elections).

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (2ocoG)

292 Tim Walz announces a brand new opportunity for illegal immigrants to get government funding in Minnesota! It's the Paid Family and Medical Leave program, and it's open to "undocumented workers."
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*Any* government program that is formally "open to undocumented workers" is fraudulent by definition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (odPvD)

293 Abusing SNAP is definitely making food costs rise. Aggressively ending the abuse will make them plummet. But will it be in time for the midterms?

The dems will go big next year on "Trump hasn't made your life more affordable like he promised! MAGA is a lie! Try us, we actually care! We will actually make things affordable again! " And I think Gen z is naive enough to believe it. Because that's what Mandami ran on and he won.

Oh, and one of his transition team is that nutty trans rabbi. He can't get a real Orthodox Jew on his team. Only rainbow Jews.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (gWBY1)

294 281 The self selected elites want to pick a new populace.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 03, 2025 04:31 PM (cxfG

Dissolve the people and elect another

- Bertolt Brecht

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 03, 2025 04:34 PM (6KcYW)

295 No. Best thing we can do is get the government out of that business and let civil society (food banks, churches, etc) take over.
Posted by: Cow Demon

Ding ding ding!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 03, 2025 04:34 PM (W2Pud)

296 I sat down and can't get up

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:34 PM (Ia/+0)

297 Just cancel SNAP and return it to what it was: in-kind distribution for the purpose of agricultural price supports.

Want free food from the Unc? Okay. Go pick it up. Get your milk and bread and cheese and beans and rice from the government food bank, take it home, cook it, eat it. Buy it from farmers and hand it out to those who "need" it.

No more cash transfers for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 03, 2025 04:34 PM (odPvD)

298 I mentioned the drab green packages because that was how it used to be distributed in Texas. There were six kids and my parents at the table every night and I recall that g'ment cheese made awesome mac'n cheese. Dad made plenty but mom knew what she was doing when she shopped groceries.

Posted by: DanMan at December 03, 2025 04:34 PM (8uzBS)

299 If we're to have any welfare programs, they must be rigidly and strictly - even viciously - enforced with lots of strings.

Aggressive fraud detection and elimination.
Strict rules about receipt. On drugs? No benefits. Non-citizen? No benefits. Able to work? No benefits.

Get hard with it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I don't believe there should be any welfare programs above the state or local level. Let people in the states and localities pay for other people in that state or locality, if they so desire. Keep the Feds out of it.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)

300 Walz is shoveling tax money our of the country

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:35 PM (Ia/+0)

301 Snort. Can he palm a card?
Posted by: Pudinhead

I doubt it? He's good with cards, but I've never seen him try anything underhanded or deceptive. Just by the book. There are cameras everywhere. His girlfriend, a former dealer, got upset with a drunk asshole at her table and flipped him off after he left. Instant termination.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 03, 2025 04:35 PM (R1nej)

302 I sat down and can't get up
Posted by: Skip

Help is on its way!

Posted by: Life Alert at December 03, 2025 04:36 PM (v0R5T)

303 287 Bets thing we could do is make snap cards only eligible for the BASICS. No prepackaged food, just the raw material to make food. Flour, butter, salt, meat, vegetables, etc.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:22 PM (gDhA9)

No. Best thing we can do is get the government out of that business and let civil society (food banks, churches, etc) take over.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 03, 2025 04:32 PM (6KcYW)

If you do the 1st, folks will do the 2nd b/c Churches will have "better" food, and then you can naturally wind down the 1st...it's like a stepping stone down...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2025 04:36 PM (tOcjL)

304 I don't believe there should be any welfare programs above the state or local level. Let people in the states and localities pay for other people in that state or locality, if they so desire. Keep the Feds out of it.
Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)
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I'm cool with that, too. It would be much more appropriate.

In which case, I want my state welfare programs - if any - to follow those same rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 03, 2025 04:36 PM (odPvD)

305 I sat down and can't get up
Posted by: Skip

It is settled science that the strongest known force in the universe is that between my butt and my couch.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)

306 But MN’s government has made it clear: it HATES Americans and wishes to dissolve the people and elect another.

I remember a few decades ago when Libertarians picked Vermont or New Hampshire as the state to move to and take over politically.

Who knew that the Communists decided to do that with Minnesomalia?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 03, 2025 04:37 PM (+4Cf6)

307 In which case, I want my state welfare programs - if any - to follow those same rules.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Absolutely.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:37 PM (77rzZ)

308 This, exactly. And no food more than X dollars/lb or unit (so no high end meat/fish)... Let RFK's folks make the allowed food list... Posted by: Nova Local at December 03, 2025 04:24 PM (tOcjL)

Exactly. Make them cook their own meals. No more boxed cereal - you buy raw oats and cook it. You can drink tap water or milk. Not only are you teaching them (the hard way) how to save a shitload of money, and life skills, but you will improve their health dramatically.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 03, 2025 04:38 PM (gDhA9)

309 This is big. Good move. Multi pronged attack on the grift, the illegals and the cash flows.

To stop the flow of illegals you have to take multiple pathways to hack away. Bit by bit.

Posted by: GigantorX at December 03, 2025 04:38 PM (0ac+N)

310 Walz is shoveling tax money our of the country

Posted by: Skip

Minnesota is one of the primary sources of Somali terrorist funding.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 03, 2025 04:38 PM (0U5gm)

311 288 have I lose my fastball or is it too over the top?

I need to know I cannot reach the normies anymore?
Posted by: sven at December 03, 2025 04:33 PM (MUJd1)
You’re good.

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:39 PM (i+bC1)

312 There are hints that Walz might have sold military secrets to China. There was a rank he was assigned to be on, a soon after China had a similar tank made.

If it can be proven...treason. Flat out treason. Guillotine anssemble and stream it live. Or I will accept the Rosenberg protocol.

Posted by: LizLem at December 03, 2025 04:40 PM (gWBY1)

313 We hope this does not cause the consumption of pets to go up.

Posted by: The people that live there at December 03, 2025 04:41 PM (vFG9F)

314 Whoa, let's not get too hasty here...did you see his cheekbones?
Posted by: Sen. Warren

What about his crab dip?

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:42 PM (77rzZ)

315 U nas yest' NOOD.

Posted by: Bulg at December 03, 2025 04:44 PM (77rzZ)

316 Watching Lethal Weapon with Mell Gibson part at the indoor range. Every shot Mel takes he closes his eyes

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:44 PM (Ia/+0)

317 316 Watching Lethal Weapon with Mell Gibson part at the indoor range. Every shot Mel takes he closes his eyes
Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2025 04:44 PM (Ia/+0)
Wait! You close your eyes?

Posted by: Eromero at December 03, 2025 04:46 PM (i+bC1)

318 Trump will feed the children but not the Democrat children

Children beware, illegals beware
He's coming, he's coming, he's coming

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 03, 2025 04:47 PM (jc0TO)

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