As the Media Insists That It's Illegal To Shoot Missiles at Foreign Terrorist Drug Boats, They Also Claim That It's Okay to Shoot National Guardsmen If You Object to Their Presence

At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave.

Charles C.W. Cooke:

Responding to the news that a crazed asylee from Afghanistan had shot two National Guard troops in Washington, D.C., the New Yorker's Jane Mayer concluded that the attack was "so tragic" and "so unnecessary," before proceeding to identify the real culprit of the abomination: President Donald J. Trump. "These poor guardsmen," wrote Mayer, "should never have been deployed."
In this ugly asseveration, Mayer was swiftly joined by a bunch of other political commentators, each more desperate than the last to train their fire on the current occupant of the White House. In The Atlantic, Juliette Kayyem wrote that "there are costs to performatively deploying members of the military, one of which is the risk of endangering them." On Twitter, the author John Pavlovitz explicitly proposed that "Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are culpable for endangering the National Guard by putting them in harm's way." Not to be outdone, MS NOW's Ken Dilanian followed this path to its revolting terminus by suggesting that the guardsmen were "walking around with uniforms in an American city," that "there are some Americans that might object to that," and "so, apparently, this shooting has happened."

As with Charlie Kirk: The victims brought their murders at the hands of leftists upon themselves.

I'm sorry . . . what? In what possible universe could that be an appropriate response? Washington, D.C., is a federal city over which the federal government has plenary control. If, as has been the case this year, the federal government decides that it is necessary to deploy federal agents to enforce the law, it is permitted to do so without the expectation that those agents will be murdered. Certainly, the American social contract has become more complicated over time than it was back in 1787, but at no point has it come to tolerate the proposition that officials who have been sent to keep the peace should expect to be gunned down by assassins if their deployment is disapproved of by the progressive intellectual class. Politically, one can believe that Donald Trump's decision to deploy the National Guard was a good one, a bad one, or a middling one and that postulate will not change one whit. Whether they are there to pick up trash, fight an alien invasion, or solely to smile for foreign tourists, there is no circumstance in which killing them is appropriate.

Meanwhile, ABC "News" under George Sloppadopoulos and the Gay Model says that the Motive May Never Be Known, but right now we can confidently say that he shot those National Guardsmen not because he is a foreign Islamic terrorist and not becuase he was programmed to kill by a traitor media that justifies the murders of its opponents, but because... of Trump's economy.

He was feeling financial stress you guys.

Ah, it’s one of those classic cases of a guy suffering financial stress driving all the way across the country to gun down two National Guardsmen in a city to which he has no connection. When you think about it, it’s our fault. https://t.co/yQzySC6kuu
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) December 2, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 04:30 PM

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Posted by: Jordan61 at December 02, 2025 04:31 PM (DRSnL)

2 Hola

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 02, 2025 04:31 PM (van9r)

3 Los Doyers

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 02, 2025 04:32 PM (van9r)

4 Los Doyers
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 02, 2025 04:32 PM (van9r)

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Mr. Jordan61 is a lifelong fan.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 02, 2025 04:34 PM (DRSnL)

5 At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave.

I'm their huckleberry.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2025 04:34 PM (3OvGR)

6 postulate

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 02, 2025 04:34 PM (Kt19C)

7 That was a brilliant response by Charles C.W. Cooke.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2025 04:34 PM (Nx5jP)

8 Responding to the news that a crazed asylee from Afghanistan had shot two National Guard troops in Washington, D.C., the New Yorker's Jane Mayer concluded that the attack was "so tragic" and "so unnecessary," before proceeding to identify the real culprit of the abomination: President Donald J. Trump. "These poor guardsmen," wrote Mayer, "should never have been deployed."
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This is a very useful - and general - approach.

"It's sad when cops get shot, but cops never should have been sent into those ghettos"
"It's sad when terrorists in SUVs drive through Christmas parades, but those cities should never have authorized parades where someone was Driving While Muslim"

Suddenly the "short skirt defense" is back in vogue...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (odPvD)

9 A guy with jihadist ideas would think that shooting troops in the Great Satan's capitol would be at great strike . Kind of obvious

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (bfwj/)

10 "At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave."

Nah.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (U/Byj)

11 We should totes keep letting people with no financial stability and mental health issues into our country.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (DRSnL)

12 Financial stress causes you to travel to DC and shoot National Guard members ? Who knew ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (VE6XX)

13 Poor guy all that financial stress from having the government pay for his existence. I mean yeah he kinda is the victim here.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (kz78D)

14 HIPAA violation day.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (YlWIZ)

15 In what possible universe could that be an appropriate response? Washington, D.C., is a federal city over which the federal government has plenary control
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LOL

Making a law-based argument in 2025 is absurd. We're post-law. Have been for a while. Deep State Judges outside shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (odPvD)

16 "These poor guardsmen," wrote Mayer, "should never have been deployed."

Now do Afghanistan.

Posted by: The Mediots at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (vFG9F)

17 Is this why the illegal orders video was made? Or too far a stretch? Because it really doesn’t feel like the left is great at playing out scenarios and developing plans to counter potential consequences of their actions.

Posted by: Piper at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (Wmg4n)

18 That national guardsman's skirt was too short. He was asking for it.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (Eng1Z)

19 Meanwhile, ABC "News" under George Sloppadopoulos and the Gay Model says that the Motive May Never Be Known, but right now we can confidently say that he shot those National Guardsmen not because he is a foreign Islamic terrorist and not becuase he was programmed to kill by a traitor media that justifies the murders of its opponents, but because... of Trump's economy.
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They are really so clueless that they don't understand just how stupid they sound to normal people.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (IBQGV)

20 Trying to resurrect the anti-war Leftists might clash with the European/Neocons wanting war with virtually everybody else. Another problem for Dems.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (8avO+)

21 Oh, yes-when having financial distress besides going to an unknown city of the other side of the country you always yell Allahu Ackbar (so?) before shooting people you don't know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (Nx5jP)

22 Ah, it's one of those classic cases of a guy suffering financial stress driving all the way across the country to gun down two National Guardsmen in a city to which he has no connection. When you think about it, it's our fault
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A very normal argument. This is a form of the "poverty causes crime" argument favored by communists for generations. It's an absurd manifestation of that argument, but not actually unusual as such.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (odPvD)

23 Let's talk about the murderer and how he came to murder two Guardsmen.

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (vFG9F)

24 "because... of Trump's economy."

Well, this is ridiculous to anyone with one working brain cell. Who is stupid enough to believe it?

About half the country.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (MSlZp)

25 That illegal that shot the NG troops in DC did not do this in a vacuum. He left a digital presence that has been erased and we are not being allowed to see. Plus someone was funding him. He didn't go from broke raising five kids in a $2,000 a month apartment that he could no longer afford to being able to drive 3,000 miles to go to DC to shoot those innocent kids.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (0N4FZ)

26 You know who's opinion I don't give a shit about even when he agrees with me? Charles C.W. Cooke.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 04:38 PM (jc0TO)

27 He was from Washington State right ? Why didn't he shoot some in his own State ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 04:38 PM (VE6XX)

28 Even if your hatred of the media is on par with the heat of a thousand suns, it's still not enough hate.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 02, 2025 04:38 PM (5yDGQ)

29 "He didn't go from broke raising five kids in a $2,000 a month apartment that he could no longer afford to being able to drive 3,000 miles to go to DC to shoot those innocent kids.
Posted by: Mister Scott"

What kind of car did he have I wonder.

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:38 PM (vFG9F)

30 As the sister to one former Guardsman and the DiL to another, these characterizations tick me off.

Posted by: pookysgirl, always patriotic at December 02, 2025 04:38 PM (Wt5PA)

31
Well, this is ridiculous to anyone with one working brain cell. Who is stupid enough to believe it?

About half the country.
Posted by: Bad Andrew at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (MSlZp)

Unfortunately...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (VE6XX)

32
I pray for the day Amazon sells a contraption to hoist me out of bed in the morning.

Do You People know how hard it is for me to get out of bed? I have to get a "running start" and pray I don't wrench my back out of sorts.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:23 PM

I almost bought one of these for my mother.

https://tinyurl.com/3vhty9uu
Posted by: toby928(c

That's a sweet ride. But probably moves way too slow. I need something to catapult me.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (19YDW)

33 10 "At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave."

Nah.

Posted by: rhomboid
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Never say never. It is usually some trivial event (sometimes it can be dramatic like volcanoes or earthquakes) that spawns a political avalanche but one can see the snowpack increasing visibly as a lot of the Deep State/Democrat corruption becomes evident.

At some point, even the gimmedats are being astonished by how much of their gubmint cheese is going to Somalian newcomers etc.

Once the killing machine gets turned on though it is hard to stop because of basic human orneriness and eye for eye justice.

Would not be surprised to see a time of troubles soon in the West as things deteriorate because the center aka Uniparty is no longer able to hold.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (WDjG6)

34 I would bet that the number of people on the “ Left” side of the fence willing to gun down someone because of their beliefs outnumbers, significantly, those on the Right side willing to do the same.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (PCK5/)

35 Release the Epstein MRI Hegseth death order!

Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (YwEeS)

36 I never did hear where he purchased or got the weapon. Anybody know?

As for the media, can they not just once say a fucking islamo-terrorist did it?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (n5tGW)

37 Willowed from last thread:
Um, from what I gather, it's a show about a women divorce law firm who gleefully ruin mens lives, written by people who know nothing about law and court proceedings.

Soothie, I said it was pretty, I never said it was smart.

Plus hate watching is a powerful drug. Winemom Karens no longer have "And Just Like That" to hate watch, they need SOMETHING to do.

I've heard it described as a divorce show written by women who have never been in a healthy real relationship...sounds about right.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (Eng1Z)

38 35 Release the Epstein MRI Hegseth death order!
Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (YwEeS)

And Trump said retard !

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (VE6XX)

39 Ha. AI search says "

Search Assist

The DC guardsman murderer drove a 1990 blue Chevy Caprice"

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (vFG9F)

40 Why it Matters:

What is the vital national interest? -- IceKing Joe'21 delivering it all to the desperate and deliberately evil.

"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other potential adversaries around the world that they can change our policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans." -- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.

To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of additional attacks on our homeland and our allies. -- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY THAT

ctHARRIS: and she wouldn't change a THING!
argument: Why settle for the Lesser Evil?
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-NotChangeAThing

“Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of president of the United States,” Pelosi'24 feeling that she's getting real on IceKingJOE

The LIBs ceaseless quest for the unearned remains forever ceaseless because the Value Illicitly Obtained retains no Value.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (7TCAW)

41 That Jewish couple should never have walked out of the Capitol Jewish Museum being all Jewy. There are antisemitic left-wing Hamas supporters that might object to that.

Posted by: I thought victim blaming was bad at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (TbWk/)

42

Left wishes for a shooting war? A classic case of be careful of what you wish for.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (vFbHf)

43 OT, but since I think we have a number of sciency folks on the blog, and Ace doesn't have a 100-comment rule, imma ask it anyway.

Given that the word "organic," as in "organic chemistry," refers to the presence of carbon, is it accurate to say that the only substances that humans commonly consume that are "inorganic" (i.e., do not contain carbon) are water (H2O) and salt (NaCl)?

Thanks.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (77rzZ)

44 Financial stress causes you to travel to DC and shoot National Guard members ? Who knew ?
Posted by: It's me donna

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If I had known this was the expected response to financial distress, the amount of trips to DC I would have logged would be well into the triple digits.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 02, 2025 04:41 PM (5yDGQ)

45 That illegal that shot the NG troops in DC did not do this in a vacuum. He left a digital presence that has been erased and we are not being allowed to see. Plus someone was funding him. He didn't go from broke raising five kids in a $2,000 a month apartment that he could no longer afford to being able to drive 3,000 miles to go to DC to shoot those innocent kids.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2025 04:37 PM (0N4FZ)

It’s not that much of an expense to drive cross country. A few hundred dollars.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 02, 2025 04:41 PM (kz78D)

46 He drove that Caprice 2000 miles? How many packs of cigarettes did he go thru?

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (vFG9F)

47 44 OT, but since I think we have a number of sciency folks on the blog, and Ace doesn't have a 100-comment rule, imma ask it anyway.

Given that the word "organic," as in "organic chemistry," refers to the presence of carbon, is it accurate to say that the only substances that humans commonly consume that are "inorganic" (i.e., do not contain carbon) are water (H2O) and salt (NaCl)?

Thanks.
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (77rzZ)

Jolly Ranchers. Cheez Whiz, Taco Bell.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (PCK5/)

48 26 You know who's opinion I don't give a shit about even when he agrees with me? Charles C.W. Cooke.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 04:38 PM (jc0TO)

C is for Cooke. That's good enough for me. Oh. Cooke, Cooke, Cooke starts with C.

Posted by: Muppet with the Sugar at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (AmPRJ)

49 A very normal argument. This is a form of the "poverty causes crime" argument favored by communists for generations. It's an absurd manifestation of that argument, but not actually unusual as such.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Logic is antithetical to leftist thought. To them, word spells create reality rather than reality should be accurately and objectively described by words.

Difference between journalist and a reporter in media; in politics, a demagogue versus a statesman.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (WDjG6)

50 Would not be surprised to see a time of troubles soon in the West as things deteriorate because the center aka Uniparty is no longer able to hold.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (WDjG6)

Europe is gonna start popping off as they turn themselves into the Soviet Union. Luckily we will be well out of there by then.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (8avO+)

51 He drove that Caprice 2000 miles? How many packs of cigarettes did he go thru?
Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM

If gas was still $5/gal he couldn't have made it, so, it's Trump's fault.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

52 Logic is antithetical to leftist thought. To them, word spells create reality rather than reality should be accurately and objectively described by words. ...
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (WDjG6)
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Solipsism.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (odPvD)

53 substances that humans commonly consume that are "inorganic" (i.e., do not contain carbon) are water (H2O) and salt (NaCl)?

Thanks.
Posted by: Bulg
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Lot of trace minerals that are also inorganic are also required.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (WDjG6)

54 I'm sticking with "never".

At least in any society/context even somewhat resembling this one.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (U/Byj)

55 At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave.
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It's hard to see how that can be avoided, since there is no hope for preserving any organization they are allowed to participate in, because they have to corrupt everything to their cause.

On the other hand, Americans these days are a lazy, cowardly people, who are primarily interested in keeping our illusions of wealth going.

If we were going to start shooting, it should have been when government and our employers demanded we subject ourselves to dangerous genetic experimentation (to avoid catching a cold) and made the main goal of public education the transing of children. To date: nothing.

Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (vSvIl)

56 If the Jews in Europe hadn't been living there during the Nazi terror, there would never have been a holocaust.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (g8Ew8)

57 So we cannot blow up cartel boats that are coming to do us harm, but these same people, including the UN have no issue with us sinking Somali pirates in international waters. Why? Because killing pirates benefits them and their shipping routes. Killing cartel hurts their bank accounts and their hopes of destroying the US.

Posted by: Joyenz at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (2F0/Y)

58
Oh I know all aboot hate-watching -- I do it all the time.

I hate-watched The Walking Dead/Fear of the Walking Dead for years.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (19YDW)

59 Given that the word "organic," as in "organic chemistry," refers to the presence of carbon, is it accurate to say that the only substances that humans commonly consume that are "inorganic" (i.e., do not contain carbon) are water (H2O) and salt (NaCl)?

Thanks.
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (77rzZ)

There are other compounds/ elements usually grouped as 'minerals' like iron, Magnesium and potassium, Iodine that are needed as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (8avO+)

60 The Media also didn't seem to mind when I dressed up like a Kardashian and went free-balling in the ladies' locker room.

Go figure.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (abmp2)

61 I watched the Walking Dead until I got bored with it all. Soap Opera with zombies.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:45 PM (PCK5/)

62 It’s not that much of an expense to drive cross country. A few hundred dollars.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 02, 2025 04:41 PM

I get that but we are being forced fed that he was flat broke and could no longer afford groceries for his kids or the rent for their apartment. If he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory by killing federal agents he would not have to have driven 3,000 miles. There is a huge ICE presence in washington state or even in nearby oregon that he could have attacked without having to drive for days.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM (0N4FZ)

63 So apparently the implication is that when Muslims have financial difficulties, and lose their mind as a result, that the process of going crazy always ends in a Jihadi suicide-by-cop or suicide-bombing.

They may be on to something, unintentionally, here.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM (6ydKt)

64 Oh I know all aboot hate-watching -- I do it all the time.

I hate-watched The Walking Dead/Fear of the Walking Dead for years.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (19YDW)

No idea why the idea of making a zombie trap near but not at your settlement was never considered. Have the kids hoot and holler near a pit with fortified walls, herd the zombies into it then dispatch with ease. Train your hounds to scout zombies.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)

65
I hate-watched The Walking Dead/Fear of the Walking Dead for years.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (19YDW)

TWD got so fucking retarded I couldn't even hate watch it. It just became an absolute chore and I quit it altogether.

Posted by: The writers and show runners killed the goose at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (TbWk/)

66 There are other compounds/ elements usually grouped as 'minerals' like iron, Magnesium and potassium, Iodine that are needed as well.
Posted by: Oldcat

I understand that, but are they ingested in pure form, or in some compound with carbon?

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (77rzZ)

67 64 Oh I know all aboot hate-watching -- I do it all the time.

I hate-watched The Walking Dead/Fear of the Walking Dead for years.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:44 PM (19YDW)

No idea why the idea of making a zombie trap near but not at your settlement was never considered. Have the kids hoot and holler near a pit with fortified walls, herd the zombies into it then dispatch with ease. Train your hounds to scout zombies.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)

Make ‘em watch The View.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (PCK5/)

68 63 So apparently the implication is that when Muslims have financial difficulties, and lose their mind as a result, that the process of going crazy always ends in a Jihadi suicide-by-cop or suicide-bombing.

They may be on to something, unintentionally, here.
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We just passed the 10th anniversary of that husband and wife from Pakistan doing a mass shooting in CA. Even Wikipedia highlighted the anniversary, though I doubt they thought much about it beyond "guns bad!".

Posted by: the lower depths at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (UdiE9)

69 I get that but we are being forced fed that he was flat broke and could no longer afford groceries for his kids or the rent for their apartment. If he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory by killing federal agents he would not have to have driven 3,000 miles. There is a huge ICE presence in washington state or even in nearby oregon that he could have attacked without having to drive for days.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM (0N4FZ)

Its an op. foreign maybe, probably domestic. The fact that they had their traitors all ready to read a statement hints at a domestic source.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (8avO+)

70 Launch in 20 minutes

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-95
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 2, 2025
Launch Time: 5:18 p.m. EST (2218 UTC, 23:18 CET)

https://youtu.be/7cLwR9F8pGY

Posted by: Joyenz at December 02, 2025 04:48 PM (2F0/Y)

71 Make ‘em watch The View.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (PCK5/)

That would repel them. No brains for bait.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

72 That made me recall Ciampino, Joyenz.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)

73 In other words, I'm talking about substances that humans ingest directly, not other elements that may be lurking in the other things we ingest? Sorry if I wasn't being clear.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)

74 I get that but we are being forced fed that he was flat broke and could no longer afford groceries for his kids or the rent for their apartment. If he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory by killing federal agents he would not have to have driven 3,000 miles. There is a huge ICE presence in washington state or even in nearby oregon that he could have attacked without having to drive for days.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM (0N4FZ)

Yarp. He could've cruised over to Portland and linked up with antifa. Gotten himself an inflatable t-Rex suit.

Posted by: Much easier options at December 02, 2025 04:49 PM (TbWk/)

75 I like the take that Washington DC is "too dangerous" to put military troops there.

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 04:49 PM (krQz2)

76
73 In other words, I'm talking about substances that humans ingest directly, not other elements that may be lurking in the other things we ingest? Sorry if I wasn't being clear.
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)

You were. I was just snarking stupid.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:49 PM (PCK5/)

77 Joyenz is here? Welcome, Joyenz!

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:49 PM (77rzZ)

78 61 I watched the Walking Dead until I got bored with it all. Soap Opera with zombies.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:45 PM (PCK5/)

Given how grimy everything was, it was more of a no-soap opera.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2025 04:50 PM (3U2FH)

79 Ooooh, Sabrina Carpenter is hella mad that ICE used one of her songs in its videos.

@SabrinaAnnLynn
this video is evil and disgusting. Do not ever involve me or my music to benefit your inhumane agenda.

I actually like her music. But I don't base my views on morality from a singer who is implying she's giving a guy a hummer on her album cover. Or one who wrote songs about loving a manchild, or a guy she knows is bad and hopes he won't prove her right. Or implies she stole a guy's credit card in her Espresso music vid and committed credit card fraud on his dime. Yes, that paragon of virtue.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 04:50 PM (Eng1Z)

80 AI Lied. The 1990 Caprice was the DC snipers. BAD AI!

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:50 PM (vFG9F)

81 As the Media Insists That It's Illegal To Shoot Missiles at Foreign Terrorist Drug Boats,

What if the boats were carrying nukes? mustard gas? Covid?

Can we shoot them down even though fentanyl has allegedly killed over 100k over the last year?

Or is it OK to bring in nukes and mustard gas now?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 02, 2025 04:51 PM (pawvM)

82 They need their drugs for the masses, don't need National Guardsmen to watch the masses

Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2025 04:51 PM (Ia/+0)

83 So we don't know what he drove.

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:51 PM (vFG9F)

84 >>Logic is antithetical to leftist thought. To them, word spells create reality rather than reality should be accurately and objectively described by words.

Bentham and Mill are to blame.

Utilitarians have always been the problem.

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2025 04:51 PM (DeNdk)

85 I get that but we are being forced fed that he was flat broke and could no longer afford groceries for his kids or the rent for their apartment. If he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory by killing federal agents he would not have to have driven 3,000 miles. There is a huge ICE presence in washington state or even in nearby oregon that he could have attacked without having to drive for days.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 02, 2025 04:46 PM
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If you have the gas money for 3000 miles, but not to feed your kids....

Well, that fills the meaning of the technical term "bullshit".

I know that's the Dems preference. But I don't have to buy it.

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 04:51 PM (krQz2)

86
"If the national guard was never deployed to DC they wouldn't have gotten shot!"

"If the Afghani man had never been allowed into the country, the National Guard members would never have been shot!"

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (IifOV)

87 AI sucks. You can't believe it.

Posted by: fd at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (vFG9F)

88 34 I would bet that the number of people on the “ Left” side of the fence willing to gun down someone because of their beliefs outnumbers, significantly, those on the Right side willing to do the same.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:39 PM (PCK5/)

FOR NOW.

The left sees political violence as a dial- you can turn it up a little or turn it down a little.

The right sees it as a switch- either we are voting or we are at war. (See: Battle of Athens, TN.)

If the left keeps pushing, that switch will get flipped.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (zjgNU)

89 Bentham and Mill are to blame.

Utilitarians have always been the problem.
Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2025 04:51 PM (DeNdk)
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Bentham was a real piece of shit. Ever since he put pen to paper, totalitarians have been pursuing his panopticon with a single-minded mania.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (odPvD)

90 Hey Bulg!

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)

Been thinking of my dad a lot today.

Posted by: Joyenz at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (2F0/Y)

91 I understand that, but are they ingested in pure form, or in some compound with carbon?
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:47 PM (77rzZ)

Iron in breakfast cereals is literally tiny bits of pure metal iron pasted into the flakes. You can pull them out of your wheaties with a magnet. In use as hemoglobin, say, it is bound with a long chain carbon molecule with a particular shape that can hold oxygen.

Other stuff in vitamin capsules may be in a non carbon molecule when ingested if its something the body can use without being poison or something.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:53 PM (8avO+)

92 Europe is gonna start popping off as they turn themselves into the Soviet Union. Luckily we will be well out of there by then.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:42 PM (8avO+)
____________________________

There's an interesting dynamic going on with the Russia/Ukraine Peace process. The EU leaders are absolutely livid that Trump has cut them out of the process entirely. Their primary goal is to have the conflict continue. But, if it is negated, they wanted their mugs plastered across the media for being a part of the process. They are doing their best to sabotage the efforts because they won't benefit from a peace result that doesn't include them sapping up the credit.

I suspect that this is a non-negotiable condition laid down by Russia. And, he probably didn't have to work very hard to convince Trump.

Posted by: Orson at December 02, 2025 04:53 PM (dIske)

93 Europe is gonna start popping off as they turn themselves into the Soviet Union. Luckily we will be well out of there by then.
Posted by: Oldcat
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A very fair appraisal. I don't know if they end up with wars between states internally or imploding within or some combination of them.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:53 PM (WDjG6)

94 Is Charles Cooke still a poncy shit, as I imagine the brits might have said when they were men and not sheep to be fucked by Pakistani rape gangs?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 02, 2025 04:53 PM (zZu0s)

95 Ken "Dilanin"? I thought that was some kind of anti-seizure drug once given to epileptics?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 04:54 PM (wzUl9)

96 There is a huge ICE presence in washington state or even in nearby oregon that he could have attacked without having to drive for days.

Yeah, but he would blend in too much with the locals when shooting Feds and then stripping naked.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 02, 2025 04:54 PM (kHd4y)

97 Pointing out the obvious- Uniformed members of the military walk around the streets of America every day. Are they all targets now?

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 02, 2025 04:54 PM (MZ+PY)

98 Eric Holder called to remind Americans that, when you feel economic stress, you should only shoot Republicans.

Republicans, got that? Shoot them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2025 04:54 PM (qcYCb)

99 "If the national guard was never deployed to DC they wouldn't have gotten shot!"

"If the Afghani man had never been allowed into the country, the National Guard members would never have been shot!"

Posted by: Frank Barone at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (IifOV)

As if terrorists haven't been routinely attacking army bases for decades only to have the press conceal the fact they are Muslim and ignore any motive. It's a standard joke when they refuse to give a name and nationality.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (8avO+)

100 (See: Battle of Athens, TN.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 02, 2025 04:52 PM (zjgNU)

That story would make a great movie...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (nbLIj)

101 I also like the case that putting NG out on the streets and having record low crime is "only political" in some people's eyes.

But, yeah, that's generally how Trump "show other people up" is by doing something!!

Yeah, sure it accomplishes a measurable level of what is normally a civic goal and we actually pay people in a city to do!

But it's all political! (Despite the pragmatics)

You just wish he wouldn't be so petty as to have to show people up! </sarc>

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (krQz2)

102 "At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave."

You keep promising .........

Posted by: shred21 at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (VdLpC)

103 Been thinking of my dad a lot today.
Posted by: Joyenz

I always enjoyed his comments. A very interesting fellow.

*raises glass*

Cheers to your dad. *clink*

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (77rzZ)

104
Democrats: we need to import more illegarinos to fill jobs Americans won't do

Also Democrats: We can't require work for food stamps because there are no jobs.

Fucking Liars.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (19YDW)

105 74 I get that but we are being forced fed that he was flat broke and could no longer afford groceries for his kids or the rent for their apartment.
Posted by: Mister Scott

I saw some talk that he stripped himself down to be ready for his virgins.
It was also reported that he was not the first terrorist to do so.

This is not being reported though. I wonder if it is true. How do you allow anyone from such a religion inside the walls?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (Rdtw1)

106 I wonder why he felt that shooting the National Guardsmen in DC would relieve his financial stress. Is there a manifesto? We've come to expect those things.

Posted by: bluebell at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (79pEw)

107 "The left sees political violence as a dial- you can turn it up a little or turn it down a little."

Oh they love the guerilla stuff. They can do it indefinitely.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at December 02, 2025 04:56 PM (MSlZp)

108 103 Been thinking of my dad a lot today.
Posted by: Joyenz

Tough around the Holidays...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 04:56 PM (VE6XX)

109 postulate

$20, same as in town.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 02, 2025

***
'Tis better to postulate than never.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 04:56 PM (wzUl9)

110 >>> There is a huge ICE presence in washington state or even in nearby oregon that he could have attacked without having to drive for days.

It's not like WA state has any military bases to symbolically attack. None. Zero.

If you attacked the WA capitol, the entire blue coast of the state would applaud you (except Nurse, of course!)

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 04:56 PM (Eng1Z)

111 >>I wonder why he felt that shooting the National Guardsmen in DC would relieve his financial stress.

Obviously, he was not a Dave Ramsey listener.

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2025 04:57 PM (DeNdk)

112 *waves at bluebell*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2025 04:57 PM (Wnv9h)

113 If dipshit was suffering "financial stress" how da fuck could he buy all the gas needed to drive cross-country? That amounts to a few hundred dollars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2025 04:57 PM (npFr7)

114 Our side is not radical, fanatical, or bloodthirsty. Puts us at a disadvantage, in some respects.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:58 PM (PCK5/)

115 Been thinking of my dad a lot today.
Posted by: Joyenz

Sorry, Joyenz. Your dad was a kind and , smart man. As Donna said, the holidays are so very hard after the death of a beloved family member.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2025 04:58 PM (TIRHP)

116 Bentham and Mill are to blame.

Utilitarians have always been the problem.
Posted by: garrett
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I would say intellectuals in general are known for ignoring reality when proposing their theories. And the ruling class part that f*cking loves Science!!! amplify these theories into real world actions that come a cropper when they contradict reality.

In about 1910 or so, a prominent intellectual argued that wars were obsolete anymore because all the world powers were trading partners and the economic consequences of war in such a world would prevent it.

The book of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes among other biblical lessons win every time versus today's intellectuals about how nations, humans, and societies behave.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (WDjG6)

117 Thanks for the responses to my chemistry question.

I loved chemistry class in HS. It's one of the few STEM subjects I might've had a future in.

But Russian history and culture had a greater claim on my mind.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)

118 I am surprised that the Democrat talking heads have not addressed how the Afghan asylee shooter's cross-country trips might have been contributing to global warming (and blaming that on President Trump).

If this guy was radicalized after coming to the U.S., does that mean that the Taliban is more pro-American that Seattle Democrats?

Posted by: Isophorone at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (IG5iM)

119 115 Been thinking of my dad a lot today.
Posted by: Joyenz

Sorry, Joyenz. Your dad was a kind and , smart man. As Donna said, the holidays are so very hard after the death of a beloved family member.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2025 04:58 PM (TIRHP)

He was one of the good guys.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (PCK5/)

120 What's this about a shooting war with the Left?

It's not even Christmas yet!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (xcxpd)

121 substances that humans commonly consume that are "inorganic" (i.e., do not contain carbon) are water (H2O) and salt (NaCl)?

Thanks.
Posted by: Bulg
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Lot of trace minerals that are also inorganic are also required.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:43 PM (WDjG6)
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Yup, magnesium and potassium are the chief, most effective minerals for holding water inside your cells.

There is a reason it will make you mad drinking salt water. Because while salt makes you retain water, sodium remains outside the cells, so the water stays outside your cells (this is not hydration)

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:00 PM (krQz2)

122 I also like the case that putting NG out on the streets and having record low crime is "only political" in some people's eyes.

But, yeah, that's generally how Trump "show other people up" is by doing something!! ...
Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (krQz2)
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It *is* largely political, but not for the reasons the naysayers imply.

What I have found notable about the various NG deployments is that most of the time, they actually don't do much. Most of what they appear to do is, in fact, simply "showing up." The real heavy lifting is done by the local cops, as commanded by suddenly very nervous local politicians and police chiefs.

And *that* is the real - and devastating - thing about the NG deployments. These cities *could* have been peaceful at any time the local political and police heavies decided to, they just didn't decide to. America's notorious violent shitholes could have been a lot better for a long time, but nobody was willing to do so for whatever reason. Corruption, ideology, etc. - many explanations, but only one real conclusion: it's bad because they want it bad (or, at least, it's bad because they don't care to make it better).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:00 PM (odPvD)

123 Financial stress. Well he may have been told by internet recruiters that his family would be rewarded if he acted the terrorist. Fee for self immolation is a charming middle eastern innovation...

Posted by: Clown world sucks at December 02, 2025 05:00 PM (Zc28k)

124 Something just occurred to me... you know who was the first hatchetfaced AWFL Marxist scold with insanely colored danger hair?

Margo Honecker. She was the prototype. Also a schoolteacher, of sorts.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2025 05:00 PM (BI5O2)

125 I would like to tell Miss Juliette Kayyem and her ilk that the Guard's deployment caused crime to drop. Therefore, the deployment was not performative but a real success.

Posted by: Random PJ at December 02, 2025 05:01 PM (RRCAT)

126 Certainly, the American social contract has become more complicated over time than it was back in 1787, but at no point has it come to tolerate the proposition that officials who have been sent to keep the peace should expect to be gunned down by assassins if their deployment is disapproved of by the progressive intellectual class.

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The same progressive intellectual class that is well padded with money and insulated from street thugs and other predators. Also the same intellectual class that is so smart that it cannot empathize with other citizens. Spare me!

Posted by: Decaf at December 02, 2025 05:01 PM (1RAfh)

127 So if I drive from Washington State to NYC and curb stomp that crypto-faggot Snotolopagus before tearing his head off and defecating down his neck I'm justified?

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 02, 2025 05:01 PM (3w0Yw)

128 105 74 I get that but we are being forced fed that he was flat broke and could no longer afford groceries for his kids or the rent for their apartment.
Posted by: Mister Scott

I saw some talk that he stripped himself down to be ready for his virgins.
It was also reported that he was not the first terrorist to do so.

This is not being reported though. I wonder if it is true. How do you allow anyone from such a religion inside the walls?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 02, 2025 04:55 PM (Rdtw1)

How do you let them become CIA director?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 02, 2025 05:01 PM (xcxpd)

129 All in the name of establishing the precedent going forward: Any killing by the left is justified, any defense by the right is murder.

Posted by: Socratease at December 02, 2025 05:01 PM (YgfoU)

130 Our side is not radical, fanatical, or bloodthirsty. Puts us at a disadvantage, in some respects.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 04:58 PM

We care if there are friendlies mixed to our front. The Bolsheviks don't.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:01 PM (jc0TO)

131 114 Our side is not radical, fanatical, or bloodthirsty. Puts us at a disadvantage, in some respects.
Posted by: tubal

You would be surprised. Things in the US have simply not gotten that raw since the ACW and before that, the American Revolution. WWI and WWII among others were foreign wars so you did not have kin fighting kin, neighbor versus neighbor, etc. Even much of the ACW did not exhibit that problem. For that reason, the American Revolution is probably closer to the mark and there was a similar differences in loyalty between the urban elites and the rural types in that war as well. Many of those urban elites were friends of the Crown because the Crown relied upon them to put down their fellow countrymen. Twas not forgotten after the war.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:02 PM (WDjG6)

132 Pete Postulate was very compelling in The Usual Suspects.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 02, 2025 05:02 PM (PSEDc)

133 I would say intellectuals in general are known for ignoring reality when proposing their theories. And the ruling class part that f*cking loves Science!!! amplify these theories into real world actions that come a cropper when they contradict reality. ...
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (WDjG6)
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There is a reason that Paul Johnson named his book "Intellectuals" and *not* "The Intellectuals."

Anyone calling himself - or allowing himself to be called - "an intellectual" is a dickhead monster. I am not at all anti-intelligence or anti-intellect. I am entirely, 100%, anti-intellectual - at least when the article precedes the word.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:02 PM (odPvD)

134 It’s not that much of an expense to drive cross country. A few hundred dollars.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

There's also food and lodging, if he's not sleeping in the car and spending time to forage.

I suppose he could have been on whatever drugs they usually feed suicide bombers, but I tend to think that anything that would have kept him awake and driving for (Does math assuming and average speed of 65 mph) 46 hours straight no bathroom breaks, would have killed him somewhere in the middle of the country.

In a vehicle crash, if nothing else.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 02, 2025 05:02 PM (a+4eV)

135 111 >>I wonder why he felt that shooting the National Guardsmen in DC would relieve his financial stress.

Obviously, he was not a Dave Ramsey listener.
Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2025 04:57 PM (DeNdk)

Beans and rice, rice and beans, get two jobs, if you work two jobs you're thieving scum, and inflation-based increases in pay are stupid! Buy my book!

Posted by: Dave Ramsey, Boomer Meme Incarnate at December 02, 2025 05:03 PM (TbWk/)

136 I suspect that this is a non-negotiable condition laid down by Russia. And, he probably didn't have to work very hard to convince Trump.
Posted by: Orson at December 02, 2025 04:53 PM (dIske)

As Trump told Zelensky as well, Europe has no cards to play in Ukraine. They have no troops to speak of and their economy is tanking. Ukraine's ability to even hold a stable front is declining and Russia can punch out some strongpoint and engulf it only subject to safely getting supplies to the line. This will only get worse as the region fortified since 2014 is occupied and open lands are left to defend.

Trump wants the endgame to be at a conference table rather than on the ground, but either way it is going to be on Russia's terms. The EU and Ukraine are still delusional.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:03 PM (8avO+)

137 Tucker makes very good points about the sowing of chaos as being weapon of choice of evil, and how evil says destruction will bring about rebirth, yet it never does.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 02, 2025 05:03 PM (wBaIH)

138 Meanwhile, ABC "News" under George Sloppadopoulos and the Gay Model says that the Motive May Never Be Known, but right now we can confidently say that he shot those National Guardsmen not because he is a foreign Islamic terrorist and not becuase he was programmed to kill by a traitor media that justifies the murders of its opponents, but because... of Trump's economy.

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He had money problems? How about getting a job or two like other people? How about his wife getting a job like other women? I had no idea that being short of cash is now an alibi for terrorism.

Posted by: Decaf at December 02, 2025 05:03 PM (1RAfh)

139 Corruption, ideology, etc. - many explanations, but only one real conclusion: it's bad because they want it bad (or, at least, it's bad because they don't care to make it better).
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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I would rate this claim as true. In part, I think it is because urban Democrats view criminals as their kinfolk, friends, and colleagues in the complicated networks that occur in urban areas. And this includes the political class running the joint.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:04 PM (WDjG6)

140 Been thinking of my dad a lot today.
Posted by: Joyenz

We all think of him.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2025 05:05 PM (snZF9)

141 I had no idea that being short of cash is now an alibi for terrorism.
Posted by: Decaf at December 02, 2025 05:03 PM (1RAfh

It is if you can blame Trump for it...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 05:05 PM (VE6XX)

142 Anyone calling himself - or allowing himself to be called - "an intellectual" is a dickhead monster. I am not at all anti-intelligence or anti-intellect. I am entirely, 100%, anti-intellectual - at least when the article precedes the word.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:02 PM (odPvD)

Also "thought leaders." They need to be placed in the stocks in the public square and pelted with rotten produce.

Posted by: Thought lead this, you pretentious putz at December 02, 2025 05:06 PM (TbWk/)

143 There is a reason that Paul Johnson named his book "Intellectuals" and *not* "The Intellectuals."

Anyone calling himself - or allowing himself to be called - "an intellectual" is a dickhead monster. I am not at all anti-intelligence or anti-intellect. I am entirely, 100%, anti-intellectual - at least when the article precedes the word.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The French, as usual, nailed it with bien pensants.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:06 PM (WDjG6)

144 I just think our side will need a great deal more oppression before we would ever resort to risk taking behavior. We long for the Shire, in general.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:06 PM (PCK5/)

145 "At some point, the left will have the shooting war they crave."

Nah.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2025 04:35 PM (U/Byj)

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I don't think so either. The only people shooting are the left. The rest of the population refuse to be dragged into the Left's war.

Posted by: Decaf at December 02, 2025 05:06 PM (1RAfh)

146 And *that* is the real - and devastating - thing about the NG deployments. These cities *could* have been peaceful at any time the local political and police heavies decided to, they just didn't decide to. America's notorious violent shitholes could have been a lot better for a long time, but nobody was willing to do so for whatever reason. Corruption, ideology, etc. - many explanations, but only one real conclusion: it's bad because they want it bad (or, at least, it's bad because they don't care to make it better).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:00 PM (odPvD)

In other words, "We don't have to live like this."

Posted by: pookysgirl, always patriotic at December 02, 2025 05:06 PM (Wt5PA)

147 You would be surprised. Things in the US have simply not gotten that raw since the ACW and before that, the American Revolution. WWI and WWII among others were foreign wars so you did not have kin fighting kin, neighbor versus neighbor, etc. Even much of the ACW did not exhibit that problem. For that reason, the American Revolution is probably closer to the mark and there was a similar differences in loyalty between the urban elites and the rural types in that war as well. Many of those urban elites were friends of the Crown because the Crown relied upon them to put down their fellow countrymen. Twas not forgotten after the war.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:02 PM (WDjG6)

There is a difference between restraint and weakness, and even in our very civil Civil war as time wore on more and more severe acts were 'on the table' for both sides.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:07 PM (8avO+)

148 We long for the Shire, in general.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:06 PM

Yep. The hope of man is to be happy at home. Everything else is an annoyance.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:07 PM (jc0TO)

149 I don't think there is one thing that set this guy off. It's who he is, who they are. Just plain nuts.

They should not be here--it's like they've been dropped off on Mars and left there.

Read the real story from veterans of the Afghan wars. https://tinyurl.com/3ky37euv

Posted by: Random PJ at December 02, 2025 05:07 PM (RRCAT)

150 I saw This Ugly Asseveration open for That Shitty Dicktation during The World Needs A Hero tour in '01.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 02, 2025 05:07 PM (lhDeM)

151 Left wishes for a shooting war? A classic case of be careful of what you wish for.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 02, 2025 04:40 PM (vFbHf)

This, totally this, nothing but this.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (snZF9)

152 Anyone calling himself - or allowing himself to be called - "an intellectual" is a dickhead monster. I am not at all anti-intelligence or anti-intellect. I am entirely, 100%, anti-intellectual - at least when the article precedes the word.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

self crowned intellectuals, thinkers, and elites can be counted on to be none of the above.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (8avO+)

153 I am really starting to despise all these instant lawyers conversant in the UCMJ, LOAC

Their philosophy can be found on a cereal box - "Power by any means."

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (2GVsD)

154 Beans and rice, rice and beans, get two jobs, if you work two jobs you're thieving scum, and inflation-based increases in pay are stupid! Buy my book!
Posted by: Dave Ramsey
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I used to listen to talk radio during the commute and occasionally Ramsey would come on with his usual crap--some was simple common sense, but a lot was bloviating morality from a shady pitchman. There was a similar financial columnist, forget her name, that used to try to sell women on the idea of cds, high cost annuities, etc. rather than rely on the stock market. Forget that bint's name.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (WDjG6)

155 There is a difference between restraint and weakness, and even in our very civil Civil war as time wore on more and more severe acts were 'on the table' for both sides.
Posted by: Oldcat
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True.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:09 PM (WDjG6)

156 152 Anyone calling himself - or allowing himself to be called - "an intellectual" is a dickhead monster. I am not at all anti-intelligence or anti-intellect. I am entirely, 100%, anti-intellectual - at least when the article precedes the word.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

self crowned intellectuals, thinkers, and elites can be counted on to be none of the above.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (8avO+)

Thomas Sowell - The Vision of the Anointed

Posted by: Smart feller that Sowell guy at December 02, 2025 05:09 PM (TbWk/)

157 They are really so clueless that they don't understand just how stupid they sound to normal people.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (IBQGV)
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Just wait until the commies parse out the Costco tariff refund lawsuit.

Posted by: mrp at December 02, 2025 05:09 PM (rj6Yv)

158 Their shits all retarded and they talk like a fag.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 02, 2025 05:10 PM (KDPiq)

159 columnist, forget her name, that used to try to sell women on the idea of cds, high cost annuities, etc. rather than rely on the stock market. Forget that bint's name.
Posted by: whig

Suzy Orman?

Posted by: Radio Days at December 02, 2025 05:10 PM (oftw2)

160 153 I am really starting to despise all these instant lawyers conversant in the UCMJ, LOAC

Their philosophy can be found on a cereal box - "Power by any means."
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I find today's chattering classes and opinion makers instantly obnoxious as they scramble for social status and power. A big reason why back in the day I left DC never to come back.

I can't stand those sorts of amoral social and political climbers because truth, honor, and justice they do not have in them.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (WDjG6)

161 A lot of people look at the night sky for "proof" that God exists and created the world.

But I look at the human body and see the same thing. All of these intricate chemical processes going on every second, every minute within our bodies, for the most part without our awareness.

Even at post-29, when things don't work so well as they used to, my body is still a marvel to me.

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)

162 The credentialed cretins

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (2GVsD)

163

He had money problems? How about getting a job or two like other people? How about his wife getting a job like other women? I had no idea that being short of cash is now an alibi for terrorism.
Posted by: Decaf at December 02, 2025 05:03 PM (1RAfh)

as if there are no free bennies for an illegal in the Pac NW. He's an op, like the PA trump assassin and Charlie Kirk's killer. They are drawing from their stock.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (8avO+)

164 Suzy Orman?
Posted by: Radio Days
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That's it. Now I can forget her again comfortably instead of fretting about it.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:12 PM (WDjG6)

165 But I look at the human body and see the same thing. All of these intricate chemical processes going on every second, every minute within our bodies, for the most part without our awareness.

Even at post-29, when things don't work so well as they used to, my body is still a marvel to me.
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)

if God did it, why can't I shoot grenades out of the palm of my hand to smite the ungodly?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)

166 Ok, I had to laugh at the White House Christmas decoration video. First of all, tasteful, elegant....totally awesome in a traditional Christmas sort of way.

BUT, in one of the alcove rooms they briefly show a George Washington portrait, and then a quick flash of the Trump portrait (which was his freakin mugshot from Georgia). Something tells me Melania liked that shot.

Sorry...no dancing transgender idiots or glory holes.

Posted by: Orson at December 02, 2025 05:12 PM (dIske)

167 Meanwhile, ABC "News" under George Sloppadopoulos and the Gay Model says that the Motive May Never Be Known, but right now we can confidently say that he shot those National Guardsmen not because he is a foreign Islamic terrorist and not becuase he was programmed to kill by a traitor media that justifies the murders of its opponents, but because... of Trump's economy.
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They are really so clueless that they don't understand just how stupid they sound to normal people.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 02, 2025 04:36 PM (IBQGV)
***

Or deliberately obtuse.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2025 05:13 PM (y3bZw)

168 silver spot price, 58 bucks and change. Gold, 4200 and change. Interesting.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:13 PM (PCK5/)

169 >>> suggesting that the guardsmen were "walking around with uniforms in an American city," that "there are some Americans that might object to that," and "so, apparently, this shooting has happened."

Ahhh, the old dirty whore had it coming dressed like that.

Seems like I have most of my life with a base nearby. Seeing someone in uniform picking groceries at the store after duty is unremarkable.

Posted by: Operator Error at December 02, 2025 05:13 PM (bXbak)

170 Enjoy the launch guys,

Going to nurse my threee day headache.

Thanks for the kind words about dad. I found some old photos of him from the 60's/70's. Should post them for you guys.

Posted by: Joyenz at December 02, 2025 05:13 PM (2F0/Y)

171 I used to listen to talk radio during the commute and occasionally Ramsey would come on with his usual crap--some was simple common sense, but a lot was bloviating morality from a shady pitchman. There was a similar financial columnist, forget her name, that used to try to sell women on the idea of cds, high cost annuities, etc. rather than rely on the stock market. Forget that bint's name.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (WDjG6)

Suze Orman? I knew who you were talking about, I could even picture her in my head but had to do some research to find her name.

Posted by: Radio talking heads at December 02, 2025 05:13 PM (TbWk/)

172 The credentialed cretins
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (2GVsD)
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Nice

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:13 PM (odPvD)

173 > Left wishes for a shooting war? A classic case of be careful of what you wish for.

I feel the same way about anyone in the US wishing for a shooting war. Before the US Civil War, people in both the North and the South strongly believed the other side would be a pushover. It was a mistake then and it's a mistake now. Plenty of "their side" have guns and those who don't can learn how to use one fast enough.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2025 05:14 PM (Yp6az)

174 I would say intellectuals in general are known for ignoring reality when proposing their theories. And the ruling class part that f*cking loves Science!!! amplify these theories into real world actions that come a cropper when they contradict reality. ...
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 04:59 PM (WDjG6)
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I would say it's the problem of "everything looking like a nail".

You can "work smarter, not harder". That much is clear.

And this occurrence creates the econiche intellectuals live in. However, that some things can be improved by some "re-examinations", does not mean that every act of rethinking contributes to "working smarter".

But academics rely on a overabundance in the skill of re-thinking in relation to physical effort. Thus academics rely on the hype of re-thinking.

Thus there is a bias toward ignoring real world complications for the simplification to a theory. And to hype it all the while you're doing it.

It was one of the gains of actual Science that produced measurable gains through theory. But again, the overgeneralization that all Science endeavors are equally profitable creates another econiche.

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:14 PM (krQz2)

175 There is a difference between restraint and weakness, and even in our very civil Civil war as time wore on more and more severe acts were 'on the table' for both sides.
Posted by: Oldcat
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True.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:09 PM (WDjG6)

++++

Confederate terror cells attempting to burn down NYC. Clandestine contacts with Copperhead sympathizers. Union raiders hijacking rebel choo-choo trains. Butler's "infamous" orders in New Orleans. And Sherman did some stuff, too.

Posted by: mrp at December 02, 2025 05:14 PM (rj6Yv)

176 168 silver spot price, 58 bucks and change. Gold, 4200 and change. Interesting.
Posted by: tubal
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And yet at the same time, a drawback in cyber currencies from all time highs. I am wondering if the metals exchanges have a lot of people with naked short contracts that will require fulfillment soon. Seems to be the case in silver, dunno about gold.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (WDjG6)

177 >>> BUT, in one of the alcove rooms they briefly show a George Washington portrait, and then a quick flash of the Trump portrait (which was his freakin mugshot from Georgia). Something tells me Melania liked that shot.

I think the Trump portrait looked cross stitched in a closeup! Which makes it even better.

The butterflies are gorgeous, but must be making trans activist heads pop, since that is one of their symbols. And BLUE butterflies! How dare she!

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (Eng1Z)

178 Suze Orman? I knew who you were talking about, I could even picture her in my head but had to do some research to find her name.
Posted by: Radio talking heads at December 02, 2025

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Whatever happened to Sally Jessy Raphael?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (wzUl9)

179
BUT, in one of the alcove rooms they briefly show a George Washington portrait, and then a quick flash of the Trump portrait (which was his freakin mugshot from Georgia). Something tells me Melania liked that shot.

Posted by: Orson

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Haha, I liked that item, too! Trump's mad-face done in traditional cross-stitch or embroidery or whatever you call it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (n7rxJ)

180 It was one of the gains of actual Science that produced measurable gains through theory. But again, the overgeneralization that all Science endeavors are equally profitable creates another econiche.
Posted by: Axeman
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Very well said. Can't quibble with any of it.

Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (WDjG6)

181 Christmas snipers in Sarajevo coming soon to a city in the US I fear,

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (2GVsD)

182 And yet at the same time, a drawback in cyber currencies from all time highs. I am wondering if the metals exchanges have a lot of people with naked short contracts that will require fulfillment soon. Seems to be the case in silver, dunno about gold.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (WDjG6)
++++
Could be, but my bet would be on AI.

The AI bubble hasn't popped by any means, but it's showing some signs of stress. A lot of AI bubble funds *and* AI companies have a lot of crypto, too. Crypto is (somewhat) liquid and fairly easy to move. It wouldn't surprise me if some of it is being unloaded to change hedge positions or paper over other problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (odPvD)

183 Morticia, great minds think alike!

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 05:17 PM (Eng1Z)

184 176 168 silver spot price, 58 bucks and change. Gold, 4200 and change. Interesting.
Posted by: tubal
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And yet at the same time, a drawback in cyber currencies from all time highs. I am wondering if the metals exchanges have a lot of people with naked short contracts that will require fulfillment soon. Seems to be the case in silver, dunno about gold.
Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (WDjG6)

I’m not going to cash mine out. Maybe I should, but I tend to be a wait and see guy.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:17 PM (PCK5/)

185 The butterflies are gorgeous, but must be making trans activist heads pop, since that is one of their symbols. And BLUE butterflies! How dare she!
Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (Eng1Z)

They should be using the death's head moth from Silence of the Lambs all Jame Gumb like.

Posted by: I'd fuck me so hard... at December 02, 2025 05:17 PM (TbWk/)

186 >>>self crowned intellectuals, thinkers, and elites can be counted on to be none of the above.

Posted by: Oldcat

>The smartest guy in the room is always the guy who had to take his GED three times before he passed.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 02, 2025 05:17 PM (abmp2)

187 Well I say we reduce the economic stress for other refugees by deporting his wife, kids, and all known associates and their families. If Afghanistan wont take them ship them to Gaza.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (V72J7)

188 Posted by: whig at December 02, 2025 05:08 PM (WDjG6

Hey now I use CDs and annuities now. I like making 5%-6% and be stress free rather than chasing 10-15% with loss cost averaging over a decade. That was for my younger days.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (KDPiq)

189 I feel the same way about anyone in the US wishing for a shooting war. Before the US Civil War, people in both the North and the South strongly believed the other side would be a pushover. It was a mistake then and it's a mistake now. Plenty of "their side" have guns and those who don't can learn how to use one fast enough.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2025 05:14 PM (Yp6az)

The leftists position operationally is untenable, packed in tiny enclaves and mostly unarmed. Blocking positions on major routes will contain them until they starve. Even in Blue states the hinterland is often pretty red.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (8avO+)

190 But I look at the human body and see the same thing. All of these intricate chemical processes going on every second, every minute within our bodies, for the most part without our awareness.

Even at post-29, when things don't work so well as they used to, my body is still a marvel to me.
Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)
--
Muldoon once wrote a wonderful short essay about the miracle that is the human heart.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (PSEDc)

191 178 Suze Orman? I knew who you were talking about, I could even picture her in my head but had to do some research to find her name.
Posted by: Radio talking heads at December 02, 2025

***
Whatever happened to Sally Jessy Raphael?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (wzUl9)

Or Joyce Meyer, to mix flavors?

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (PCK5/)

192 The butterflies are gorgeous, but must be making trans activist heads pop, since that is one of their symbols. And BLUE butterflies! How dare she!
Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (Eng1Z)

They should be using the death's head moth from Silence of the Lambs all Jame Gumb like.
Posted by: I'd fuck me so hard... at December 02, 2025 05:17 PM (TbWk/)

Just saw a YT video about the horrors of butterflies, made by the dude who made one about cats being Overpowered. Pretty funny and informational.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:19 PM (8avO+)

193 Haha, I liked that item, too! Trump's mad-face done in traditional cross-stitch or embroidery or whatever you call it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 02, 2025 05:16 PM (n7rxJ)
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I think both his and George Washington's portraits were fashioned out of Legos. For real.

Posted by: bluebell at December 02, 2025 05:20 PM (79pEw)

194 A lot of people look at the night sky for "proof" that God exists and created the world.

But I look at the human body and see the same thing. All of these intricate chemical processes going on every second, every minute within our bodies, for the most part without our awareness.

[self-incriminating non-29-ness removed]

Posted by: Bulg at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (77rzZ)
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That's funny because I don't see it in the sky/universe or in the intricacy of physiology.

I see it in just basic logic, math, computability and the "hard problems" of "philosophy" and all we attempt to do through "The Word".

And it has one, and only one silhouette.

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:20 PM (krQz2)

195 And this occurrence creates the econiche intellectuals live in. However, that some things can be improved by some "re-examinations", does not mean that every act of rethinking contributes to "working smarter".

As evidenced by every single stupid management fad to ever come down the pike.

Posted by: Six Sigma Black Belt Ninja Badass Muthafucka at December 02, 2025 05:20 PM (TbWk/)

196 The leftists position operationally is untenable, packed in tiny enclaves and mostly unarmed. Blocking positions on major routes will contain them until they starve. Even in Blue states the hinterland is often pretty red.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (8avO+)

Pretty easy for our side to blockade the roads and rail lines. Even the airports, in many cases.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2025 05:20 PM (npFr7)

197 Every one of them who wraps the flag about themselves
Whilst proclaiming loudly how they are saving the Republic
But for every self-described Talleyrand
Is in fact a Vandal at heart enriching themselves.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:20 PM (2GVsD)

198 Getting late in the afternoon here, and darkening. It'll be time to feed the furry thugs soon.

This morning I stopped off at a local independent Western wear store to have a look at their stock of boots. There were more round-toe boot models than I've seen elsewhere. Prices were in the same ballpark as Boot Barn, and in some cases the items on Tecovas's website. I didn't see or try on anything I liked enough to consider taking it home. I guess an eight-mile road trip to the Tecovas store is in my future.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (wzUl9)

199 Are we existing in a cosmic simulation, or not?

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (PCK5/)

200 In case you're wondering how well-founded the Deep State thinks the obscenely corrupt dismissal of the charges against Comey were, they are still in DefCon 1 toward killing the case.

Current development is demanding that the electronic evidence, which the government legally seized years ago, cannot be "re-accessed" without a new warrant.
To be clear:
It was legally in the possession of the government.
And it remained legally in the possession of the government.
But, since the warrant it was seized under was some time ago and didn't say "to seize information related to all crimes of James Comey" it can't be "accessed" again by the government.
You know, like if the police search a house for tax evasion and find a bloody knife w/ your fingerprints next to a dead body, they can't use the knife in your murder trial.

If you don't understand why, it's because you stupid and didn't go to Harvard.
Which means, yes, the clown judge is going to rule in favor of Comey's friend and exclude the evidence ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (HXT0k)

201 A lot of people look at the night sky for "proof" that God exists and created the world.

I see him in the beauty of math.

Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (7S15B)

202 Confederate terror cells attempting to burn down NYC. Clandestine contacts with Copperhead sympathizers. Union raiders hijacking rebel choo-choo trains. Butler's "infamous" orders in New Orleans. And Sherman did some stuff, too.
Posted by: mrp at December 02, 2025 05:14 PM (rj6Yv)

You forgot the raid from Canada on St. Albans NY.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (8avO+)

203 The leftists position operationally is untenable, packed in tiny enclaves and mostly unarmed. Blocking positions on major routes will contain them until they starve. Even in Blue states the hinterland is often pretty red.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM (8avO+)
==========

American civil wars, namely AmRev and the ACW (head nod to the War of 1812) always included an outreach for foreign intervention by the weak side. I wouldn't see that changing in the 21st century.

Posted by: mrp at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (rj6Yv)

204 The death of the guard will not be in vain. Her murder by a filthy Afghan will mean much tougher vetting and hopefully a bunch catapulted back to whatever shitfuck they crawled out of. That will save lives.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (WK9rO)

205 Muldoon once wrote a wonderful short essay about the miracle that is the human heart.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 02, 2025 05:18 PM

The molecular pumps at the cellular level is what amazes me. It's like the laws of physics and chemistry were written to make life possible.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (jc0TO)

206 Beans and rice, rice and beans, get two jobs, if you work two jobs you're thieving scum, and inflation-based increases in pay are stupid! Buy my book!
Posted by: Dave Ramsey, Boomer Meme Incarnate

I get it if you don't like his advice or how he delivers it, but it undermines your point to lie about what he says.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (a+4eV)

207 201 A lot of people look at the night sky for "proof" that God exists and created the world.

I see him in the beauty of math.
Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (7S15B)

And the ladies of the View.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (PCK5/)

208 > The AI bubble hasn't popped by any means, but it's showing some signs of stress.

When I first tried out AI bots, I was impressed with how much it was able to do. Then I tried using it more heavily and I was unimpressed with its tendency to make things up or lose context or offer partial solutions. Then I learned how to give better prompts and make it more useful. Then I hit its limitations again.

I think the market generally reacting to the same successes and failures of AI as it stands today. On the surface, it's like magic. Then you dig in and you find issues. But it's still much more useful than many of its detractors seem to think.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (Yp6az)

209 Are we existing in a cosmic simulation, or not?

"Here come the Vogons, screw the Humans and let's scram." - the dolphins.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (2GVsD)

210 Oops. That should have been an *eighty*-mile road trip to Tecovas. If they were eight miles away, I'd have checked them already.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (wzUl9)

211 7 That was a brilliant response by Charles C.W. Cooke.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2025 04:34 PM (Nx5jP)

Doing the job Americans can't do. In particular, the ones working at National Review.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (0CU3H)

212
And the ladies of the View.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (PCK5/)

So God has a sense of humor...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (VE6XX)

213 Media Insists That It's Illegal To Shoot Missiles at Foreign Terrorist Drug Boats
......

How about dropping bombs on them?

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (v0R5T)

214 201 A lot of people look at the night sky for "proof" that God exists and created the world.

I see him in the beauty of math.
Posted by: t-bird at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (7S15B)

Math is evidence of a malevolent and cruel god indeed. A god of wrath, a god of pain!

Posted by: He hates us and gives us headaches at December 02, 2025 05:24 PM (TbWk/)

215 Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2025 05:14 PM (Yp6az)

I have no delusions about how a civil war will be but what can't go on won't go on. The only way it won't happen is if we just give into the Left. I think that's the direction we're heading.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 02, 2025 05:24 PM (KDPiq)

216 Are we existing in a cosmic simulation, or not?
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (PCK5/)

Logically if its a good simulation we would never be able to tell.

I did see a title of a YT vid saying someone demonstrated it wasn't. So to have that be meaningful someone earlier must have claimed it might be. Both show a decline in science as science.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:24 PM (8avO+)

217 The cost of DDR5, DDR6 PC memory won't be dropping in price anytime soon.

Posted by: mrp at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (rj6Yv)

218 162 The credentialed cretins
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:11 PM (2GVsD)

Nassim Taleb calls them IYIs: Intellectual Yet Idiot.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (0CU3H)

219 I have no delusions about how a civil war will be but what can't go on won't go on. The only way it won't happen is if we just give into the Left. I think that's the direction we're heading.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 02, 2025 05:24 PM (KDPiq)

The left can't rule unless we do 99 percent of the work. They can't even run camps for us without us doing the building.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (8avO+)

220 So God has a sense of humor...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025

***
Certainly. Consider the platypus.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (wzUl9)

221 LOL!

This shit is so much in our face all the time, the absurdity and lunacy is hard to describe.

This is exactly on point. The leftists hand wave away their atrocities. Like It Never Happened.

It’s OK to use the Army and Navy on the other side of the world, for places nobody can find on a map for reasons nobody can articulate without even a go ahead by the congress but

Protect the American borders, well that’s worse than Hitler and the rest of it. They have no coherent arguments any longer. No facts, logic, or reason. But they gonna throw yer ass in prison the first chance they get. Wankers.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (0/ySy)

222 The death of the guard will not be in vain.

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (Kt19C)

223 Could these "Law and Order" Democrats point me to their protests when Barack Obama was drone striking wedding parties in the Middle East?

Don't worry, I'll wait.

Posted by: JB1000 at December 02, 2025 05:26 PM (G/zBl)

224 220 So God has a sense of humor...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025

***
Certainly. Consider the platypus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (wzUl9)

Or Patton Oswalt.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:26 PM (PCK5/)

225 06 Beans and rice, rice and beans, get two jobs, if you work two jobs you're thieving scum, and inflation-based increases in pay are stupid! Buy my book!
Posted by: Dave Ramsey, Boomer Meme Incarnate

I get it if you don't like his advice or how he delivers it, but it undermines your point to lie about what he says.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 02, 2025 05:22 PM (a+4eV)

You are incorrect. He literally said this on his podcast regarding "overemployed" individuals who work more than one full time positions remotely. He called them thieves, scum, said they were stealing, and are people who lack integrity. Do your homework, then come at me bro.

Posted by: Try harder, amigo. at December 02, 2025 05:26 PM (TbWk/)

226 192 The butterflies are gorgeous, but must be making trans activist heads pop, since that is one of their symbols. And BLUE butterflies! How dare she!
Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2025 05:15 PM (Eng1Z)

They should be using the death's head moth from Silence of the Lambs all Jame Gumb like.
Posted by: I'd fuck me so hard... at December 02, 2025 05:17 PM (TbWk/)

Just saw a YT video about the horrors of butterflies, made by the dude who made one about cats being Overpowered. Pretty funny and informational.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:19 PM (8avO+)

Casual Geographic. That guy is awesome. My son turned me onto his channel. He's got over 2 million subscribers.

*don't tell TJM*

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:26 PM (0CU3H)

227 Anyone who underestimates the Left's ability to quickly recruit and train ruthless partisans from their base of shiftless, hopeless, & fanatical youth does so at his own peril.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (BI5O2)

228 Nassim Taleb calls them IYIs: Intellectual Yet Idiot.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM

There are a lot of really smart people who can't be bothered to match their socks but, they are people with accomplishments. The first thing I ask about an "intellectual" is 'What have you accomplished?"

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (jc0TO)

229 How about dropping bombs on them?
Posted by: wth at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (v0R5T)

Fit fast-attack subs with nooses. Overtake the drug boat, and snag them with a noose, and then dive. Fuckers would not stand a chance, and they would simply disappear forever. No muss, no fuss.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (npFr7)

230 Media Insists That It's Illegal To Shoot Missiles at Foreign Terrorist Drug Boats
......

How about dropping bombs on them?
Posted by: wth at December 02, 2025 05:23 PM (v0R5T)

"Illegal" is a term that is not really applicable to military operations. You don't give a Marine Division a parking ticket.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (8avO+)

231 The blue metro enclaves are fragile glass houses supported by equally fragile support structures.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (2GVsD)

232 220 So God has a sense of humor...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 02, 2025

***
Certainly. Consider the platypus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM (wzUl9)

Hey! Where's Perry?

Posted by: Ferb at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (TbWk/)

233 Certainly. Consider the platypus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025
*
Or Patton Oswalt.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025

***
True. Though this *could* be redundant. I for one have never seen Patton Oswalt and a platypus in the same room.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (wzUl9)

234 Nassim Taleb calls them IYIs: Intellectual Yet Idiot.
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Some ideas are so stupid, only an intellectual could believe them.

Posted by: Eric Blair at December 02, 2025 05:28 PM (0/ySy)

235 Nassim Taleb calls them IYIs: Intellectual Yet Idiot.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:25 PM

There are a lot of really smart people who can't be bothered to match their socks but, they are people with accomplishments. The first thing I ask about an "intellectual" is 'What have you accomplished?"
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (jc0TO)

Its been a long time since someone made that accusation to an intellectual.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:28 PM (8avO+)

236 I have no delusions about how a civil war will be but what can't go on won't go on. The only way it won't happen is if we just give into the Left. I think that's the direction we're heading.

Posted by: the way I see it

When they start hearding people to the trenches by the hundreds it will be too late.*

*arresting J6ers by the hundredswas a halfway point..

Posted by: Operator Error at December 02, 2025 05:28 PM (bXbak)

237 Are we existing in a cosmic simulation, or not?
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That's a specious question based on intuited terms.

What's a "simulation" simulating.

When we think Nature as un-simulated, the "simulating" of Nature's physics is easy to see.

We're kind of doing Diff-EQ to suddenly shift that a "simulation" is simulating a "simulation".

Self-reference is a ubiquitously-recurring theoretical dead-end. Most self-reference problems seem to be isomorphic.

You would think that machines that halt on the input of their own encoding sounds like it could be something, however the concept relies on self-recurrence.

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

238 227 Anyone who underestimates the Left's ability to quickly recruit and train ruthless partisans from their base of shiftless, hopeless, & fanatical youth does so at his own peril.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (BI5O2)

The SA and the Red Guard.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (PCK5/)

239 One of the Seditious Six conflated law with rules. I think her name was Goodlife.

Laws and RoE are different animals.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (2GVsD)

240 There it is.

>>@World_At_War_6

>>"CHINA SENDS A WARNING TO THE US"

>>China's Foreign Ministry issued a stern warning to the United States, urging it to refrain from any military action against Venezuela.

>>This statement comes amid heightened U.S. military deployments in the Caribbean, framed by Washington as counter-narcotics operations but criticized by Beijing and Caracas as veiled threats to Venezuelan sovereignty.

>>China is Venezuela's largest creditor, having extended over $60 billion in loans since 2007, largely backed by oil shipments

>>Chinese state-owned firms like CNPC and Sinopec control significant shares in Venezuelan oil fields.

>>In 2025 alone, Venezuela supplied China with approximately 200,000 barrels of oil per day, despite U.S. sanctions disrupting flow.

>>China's position is deeply tied to its substantial economic stakes in Venezuela, making any instability a direct threat to Beijing's interests.

>>Will Trump risk challenging China......

Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

241 >>Media Insists That It's Illegal To Shoot Missiles at Foreign Terrorist Drug Boats

'Well, if anyone had told me that when I was hired...'

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2025 05:30 PM (DeNdk)

242 237 Are we existing in a cosmic simulation, or not?
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That's a specious question based on intuited terms.

What's a "simulation" simulating.

When we think Nature as un-simulated, the "simulating" of Nature's physics is easy to see.

We're kind of doing Diff-EQ to suddenly shift that a "simulation" is simulating a "simulation".

Self-reference is a ubiquitously-recurring theoretical dead-end. Most self-reference problems seem to be isomorphic.

You would think that machines that halt on the input of their own encoding sounds like it could be something, however the concept relies on self-recurrence.
Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

You lost me at “ specious”.

Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:30 PM (PCK5/)

243 Getting late in the afternoon here, and darkening. It'll be time to feed the furry thugs soon. ...
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:21 PM (wzUl9)
++++
♪ When the moon hits your eye and it's not even 5
That's December ♪

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:30 PM (odPvD)

244 > The leftists position operationally is untenable, packed in tiny enclaves and mostly unarmed. Blocking positions on major routes will contain them until they starve.

They're mostly unarmed? I live in WA and plenty of them are armed. Every major city has massive armories. Do you think Dem leadership would hesitate to hand out guns if we blockaded the cities? China and others would gladly supply them too if it came to that.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (Yp6az)

245 >>China's position is deeply tied to its substantial economic stakes in Venezuela, making any instability a direct threat to Beijing's interests.

>>Will Trump risk challenging China......
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

Well if the nukes start a-flying I hope I'm caught right in the blast zone rather than hanging around slowly dying from radiation sickness after sucking down fallout.

Posted by: Maybe I'll get to be a ghoul at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (TbWk/)

246 Nood

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (wzUl9)

247 >>"CHINA SENDS A WARNING TO THE US"

>>China's Foreign Ministry issued a stern warning to the United States, urging it to refrain from any military action against Venezuela.

You shoot down 4 boat...you go now!

Posted by: garrett at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (DeNdk)

248 227 Anyone who underestimates the Left's ability to quickly recruit and train ruthless partisans from their base of shiftless, hopeless, & fanatical youth does so at his own peril.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2025 05:27 PM (BI5O2)

The SA and the Red Guard.
Posted by: tubal at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (PCK5/)
===

We're not Germans and we're not Chinese.

Posted by: mrp at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (rj6Yv)

249 He literally said this on his podcast regarding "overemployed" individuals who work more than one full time positions remotely. He called them thieves, scum, said they were stealing, and are people who lack integrity. Do your homework, then come at me bro.
Posted by: Try harder, amigo.

And you don't think that's because they aren't doing - can't do - a full job for any of their employers while receiving full pay?

Because that's how I would interpret that.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (a+4eV)

250 240 There it is.

>>@World_At_War_6

>>"CHINA SENDS A WARNING TO THE US"

>>China's Foreign Ministry issued a stern warning to the United States, urging it to refrain from any military action against Venezuela.
....

>>Will Trump risk challenging China......
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

And yet China has successfully cowed the world (so far) into not recognizing Taiwan.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (0CU3H)

251 1) people saying the national guard should have been there fail to appreciate the Afghani national ALSO shouldn't have been there to shoot them.

2) The afghani guy, they make it sound like he's just some average joe driven mad by trump. I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest he would have attacked any number of people, at some point in the future. Maybe slaughtered a whole family. As sad is this incident is, maybe it was better than the alternative - he shoots up a country fair or mall?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 02, 2025 05:32 PM (C3IAS)

252 >>Will Trump risk challenging China......
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

Chinas huge and competent Navy will preserve Venezuela's sovereignty!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2025 05:32 PM (npFr7)

253 You don't need to be someone with personal distintion to be a modern intellectual. You just need to parrot the same things as the rest of the intellectual party.

Some Moron once called them the Herd of Independent Thinkers.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:32 PM (jc0TO)

254 Does the Left also now want to adopt the protocol of the old TV westerns where a gunslinger had a "right" to call out the marshal for a "fair fight"? (This shooting in Washington wasn't even that, of course; the muzzie was just a miserable bushwhacker).

Incidentally, I suspect, in reality, most lawmen just stepped outside with a cocked shotgun and blew the bad guy out of his boots.

Posted by: The Maximum Penguin at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (mADJX)

255 Will Trump risk challenging China......
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)
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The better question is whether China will risk attempting to project force to a location half a world away to protect its financial interests and maintain the value of properties it financed.

They certainly weren't when Sri Lanka fell, and that would have been much easier than Central America. China can't really project force all that far. That is the basic problem with Belt and Road and its related programs. If the property fails or gets expropriated, Red China essentially can't take it over.

Will they try for Venezuela? I doubt it, but it's also pretty crazy out there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (odPvD)

256 Is this why the illegal orders video was made? Or too far a stretch? Because it really doesn’t feel like the left is great at playing out scenarios and developing plans to counter potential consequences of their actions.
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There's a well-known tactic to fraud; to compartmentalize the actors.
The Seditious Six did not know the whole plan; only "make this video." Which they eagerly did b/c, their minds, it's a mild jab at Trump but fully legal.
Last week, they were floundering, flopping for an answer to "what orders were/are illegal?"
One attempt was to retcon some fabrication from Esper's book, that Trump asked if he could order the Guard to "shoot BLM protestors in the legs."
No one read the book and no one had verified that quote.
The "kill them all" was to be the illegal order.
But, I think they had to deploy that early b/c of the shooting; it was to be rolled out after weeks of denial from Trump and Hegseth.
It's always a Watergate replay w/ the left ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (HXT0k)

257
Is a "number" with "infinite decimals" really "a number"?

It sounds like a "number". We can make a case for the number-like parts of it.

But the pragmatic measurables of Mathematical Induction can't work with it.

Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

258 Say what you want about Gene Siskel, he loved The Wrath of Khan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (XV/Pl)

259 Chinas huge and competent Navy will preserve Venezuela's sovereignty!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2025 05:32 PM

The new Battle of Tsushima.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 02, 2025 05:34 PM (jc0TO)

260 255 Will Trump risk challenging China......
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)
++++
The better question is whether China will risk attempting to project force to a location half a world away to protect its financial interests and maintain the value of properties it financed.

They certainly weren't when Sri Lanka fell, and that would have been much easier than Central America. China can't really project force all that far. That is the basic problem with Belt and Road and its related programs. If the property fails or gets expropriated, Red China essentially can't take it over.

Will they try for Venezuela? I doubt it, but it's also pretty crazy out there.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (odPvD)

There is only one country on earth that can project force to any point on the globe. It's not China.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:34 PM (0CU3H)

261 Nood. Drat.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 02, 2025 05:35 PM (0CU3H)

262 He literally said this on his podcast regarding "overemployed" individuals who work more than one full time positions remotely. He called them thieves, scum, said they were stealing, and are people who lack integrity. Do your homework, then come at me bro.
Posted by: Try harder, amigo.

Do both employers know he is working for the other simultaneously?

Posted by: the way I see it at December 02, 2025 05:35 PM (KDPiq)

263 > The leftists position operationally is untenable, packed in tiny enclaves and mostly unarmed. Blocking positions on major routes will contain them until they starve.

They're mostly unarmed? I live in WA and plenty of them are armed. Every major city has massive armories. Do you think Dem leadership would hesitate to hand out guns if we blockaded the cities? China and others would gladly supply them too if it came to that.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2025 05:31 PM (Yp6az)

So they can hold a gun while they starve. or attack a fortified position outside the city and die tired. Our current oppo can't even properly sing protest songs.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:35 PM (8avO+)

264 217 The cost of DDR5, DDR6 PC memory won't be dropping in price anytime soon.

maybe i'll finally be able to cash in on my pile of 8-bit simms!

Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2025 05:40 PM (v3pYe)

265 Is a "number" with "infinite decimals" really "a number"?

It sounds like a "number". We can make a case for the number-like parts of it.

But the pragmatic measurables of Mathematical Induction can't work with it.
Posted by: Axeman at December 02, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

You can prove that .999999 repeating is identical to 1.0.

You can prove that there are more points on a number line than can be represented by a fraction.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 02, 2025 05:40 PM (8avO+)

266 His mystery motivation was that he was armed while in the CIA

Posted by: Once in never out at December 02, 2025 05:42 PM (fKeBm)

267 Artillery practice at the base...sounds like victory.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 02, 2025 05:43 PM (s9EN2)

268 I think a CW II wouldn't turn out well for the left.
Like at all.

If you look at the Red-Blue electoral map, we've got all the blue areas surrounded and/or backed up against the ocean.

The Reds could easily lay siege to the Blue cities.
Nobody wants to take anything but D.C., or a few key cities, so why bother fighting for them?
Just hem them in and let them starve.

In a year or two it's going to be like Powers Boothe talking about Denver in Red Dawn.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 02, 2025 05:47 PM (6ydKt)

269 The Interim report of the Investigation of the January 6th Select Committee

DOD resistance, National Guard blame.

They're always too smart by half.

Posted by: L & No nic... at December 02, 2025 05:55 PM (NFX2v)

270 Remember all of the super warehouses built in the last 5 years.

Posted by: L & No nic... at December 02, 2025 05:57 PM (NFX2v)

271 Follow the EZ-Pass trail.

Posted by: DaveA at December 02, 2025 06:10 PM (FhXTo)

272 Utilitarians have always been the problem.
I read that as “Unitarians have always been the problem”.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 02, 2025 07:17 PM (ZVgZ4)

273 If you look at the Red-Blue electoral map, we've got all the blue areas surrounded and/or backed up against the ocean.

If they have a seaport, they can resupply and travel by ship.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 02, 2025 07:20 PM (ZVgZ4)

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