Department of War Mulls Court-Martialing Senator and Inactive-Duty Officer Mark Kelly for Urging Troops to Defy the Duly-Elected Commander in Chief

Officers in the US Armed Forces are under a special obligation to respect the chain of command.

Aren't they?

The Department of War is reportedly considering recalling Kelly to active duty, just to face an court martial for insubordination (and, I guess, insurrection).

Department of War
@DeptofWar
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. sec. 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality. Further official comments will be limited, to preserve the integrity of the proceedings.

The Department of War reminds all individuals that military retirees remain subject to the UCMJ for applicable offenses, and federal laws such as 18 U.S.C. § 2387 prohibit actions intended to interfere with the loyalty, morale, or good order and discipline of the armed forces. Any violations will be addressed through appropriate legal channels.

All servicemembers are reminded that they have a legal obligation under the UCMJ to obey lawful orders and that orders are presumed to be lawful. A servicemember's personal philosophy does not justify or excuse the disobedience of an otherwise lawful order.

Pete Hegseth put an exclamation point on the DOW's statement:

Pete Hegseth
@PeteHegseth
1h
The video made by the "Seditious Six" was despicable, reckless, and false. Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of their Commanders undermines every aspect of "good order and discipline." Their foolish screed sows doubt and confusion -- which only puts our warriors in danger.
Five of the six individuals in that video do not fall under @DeptofWar
jurisdiction (one is CIA and four are former military but not "retired", so they are no longer subject to UCMJ). However, Mark Kelly (retired Navy Commander) is still subject to UCMJ--and he knows that.
As was announced, the Department is reviewing his statements and actions, which were addressed directly to all troops while explicitly using his rank and service affiliation--lending the appearance of authority to his words. Kelly's conduct brings discredit upon the armed forces and will be addressed appropriately.

RedState's Rusty Weiss notes that the military does permit (or oblige) troops to refuse a "manifestly" illegal order -- but also tells them they're supposed to treat all orders as presumably legal and obey them.

Mark Kelly and the other seditionists told troops to substitute their own opinion for the duly-elected Commander-in-Chief's.

The problem is that there is a vast difference between manifestly illegal orders and those whose illegality is debatable. The latter of which, refusing to obey an order one feels personally questionable, is itself illegal, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).
In other words, service members can't simply say they feel immigration enforcement, for example, is unlawful and walk away, which is precisely what these Democrat lawmakers were trying to incite.

🚨 MAJOR BREAKING: The Department of War is considering recalling Democrat Senator Mark Kelly to active duty to be COURT-MARTIALED for telling troops to refuse President Trump’s orders

FAFO is in order!

STATEMENT FROM DoW: “The Department of War has received serious allegations… pic.twitter.com/pPQrKqCOY4
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) November 24, 2025

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1 Will nood.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 02:30 PM (NcvvS)

2 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 02:32 PM (RoO7G)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)

4 Nooded, though CaliGirl did so first.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (NcvvS)

5 Kelly belongs on some program about aliens. I hope he is taken to task by the military. He's creepy and he got elected simply because his wife was shot.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (afKoR)

6 This is about Crow, but it reads the same:

Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
16h
Since they seem intent upon continuously using doctrinal propaganda on the US populace, I think it’s important to highlight exactly what Crow and other Members of Congress are really doing.

Rep. Jason Crow’s post is a doctrinal example of narrative escalation within modern IO and psychological warfare doctrine.

Check out FM 3-05.301 / MISO.

By claiming that the President is threatening him with arrest and execution—a statement never actually made by Trump—Crow amplifies and inflates the narrative to its most extreme form in order to shape public perception.

This tactic, often called interpretive maximalism, takes an opponent’s words or actions and stretches them into a dire or existential threat, allowing the speaker to adopt a position of moral heroism while casting the opponent as an authoritarian danger.

When Crow doubles down on this framing, he creates what IO doctrine refers to as a self sealing narrative, where any denial or criticism becomes proof of the alleged threat.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (rbvCR)

7 The emotionally loaded language like “upholding my oath,” “standing with our troops,” “disregard for the rule of law,” are designed to trigger identity based responses and mobilize his political base through fear, outrage, and moral urgency.

In doing all of this, Crow shifts the conversation away from what was actually said and into a battle over perceived intent, a classic PSYOP mechanism that reframes political disagreement as existential warfare.

This is not an evidentiary argument—it is a strategic influence play aimed at narrative dominance.

It is important that Americans recognize these tactics so that they can understand when propaganda is being pushed by their own government officials.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (rbvCR)

8 Is this Gabby’s husband, or his twin?

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

9 >>>Five of the six individuals in that video do not fall under @DeptofWar jurisdiction (one is CIA and four are former military but not "retired", so they are no longer subject to UCMJ). However, Mark Kelly (retired Navy Commander) is still subject to UCMJ--and he knows that.

lolgf, you stupid commie.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (dK+Kv)

10 I watched their vid. Nothing they said in it, AFAIK, was seditious, although one could say the implication of the statement was that Trump is giving illegal, unconstitutional orders...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (ynpvh)

11 The Democrats are predictably losing their shit over this. It's kinda fun.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (2ocoG)

12 There's something wrong with that man's eyes.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (kTd/k)

13 Mark Kelly looks like someone stuck elephant ears on an old man's dick

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

14 "This is partisan attacks! Trump is dictator using the government to do his bidding!!!"

In before the left has their standard shitfit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

15 Color revolution, there is a manual and specific steps to take to create one.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (rbvCR)

16 *yawn*

Posted by: Guy who always says "Nothing will happen" and is usually right at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (vFG9F)

17 5 Kelly belongs on some program about aliens. I hope he is taken to task by the military. He's creepy and he got elected simply because his wife was shot.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Elections in Arizona are like those in other cheat by mail states. Not a valid indication that the Democrat actually won.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (WDjG6)

18 If the administration can take action against Kelly soon they might get a chance to hold him accountable about 10 years from now.

After all the appeals, TRO's and a trip to SCOTUS have been exhausted.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (NwnyJ)

19 Sounds right to me
But some Leftist fking judge will declare its his 1st Amendment freedom

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2025 02:35 PM (+qU29)

20 Bug-eyed, freaky looking chap.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 24, 2025 02:35 PM (wVcYX)

21 Rep. Jason Crow’s post is a doctrinal example of narrative escalation within modern IO and psychological warfare doctrine.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (rbvCR)

IO stands for what in this context? Information Operations?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:35 PM (dK+Kv)

22 17 5 Kelly belongs on some program about aliens. I hope he is taken to task by the military. He's creepy and he got elected simply because his wife was shot.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Elections in Arizona are like those in other cheat by mail states. Not a valid indication that the Democrat actually won.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (WDjG6)

Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.

Posted by: Zombie Josef Stalin at November 24, 2025 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

23 8 Is this Gabby’s husband, or his twin?

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025
.02:33 PM (77rzZ)

One of these is too much..

Posted by: It's me donna at November 24, 2025 02:36 PM (VE6XX)

24 All of the Seditious Six have gone out and said "oh we aren't saying that Trump has issued any unlawful orders so we did not mean him."

But the Leftist's ARE saying that.

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 02:36 PM (RoO7G)

25 Nothing they said in it, AFAIK, was seditious, although one could say the implication of the statement was that Trump is giving illegal, unconstitutional orders...

It's obviously carefully stated to give that effect, and comment 6 backs that up.

There was great hilarity on Friday when the White House put out a statement that they were not going to just start shooting Congressmen. Even some liberals were asking "why not?".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:36 PM (2ocoG)

26 14 "This is partisan attacks! Trump is dictator using the government to do his bidding!!!"

In before the left has their standard shitfit.
Posted by: Sponge
=====
I think in part, the big money and oligarchs behind this shit are wanting anarcho tyranny so that they CAN put a dictator in the seat. They get hot and bothered over people like Xi and the Chicoms because they envisage themselves as the Politburo types.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:36 PM (WDjG6)

27 That photo of Kelly, he looks like chunk from The Goonies less retarded brother.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:36 PM (vZUXb)

28 So the deep state which is illegal, cannot be de armed.

Posted by: thug dolphin at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (EyfuW)

29 Mark Kelly looks like someone stuck elephant ears on an old man's dick
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

Forget about the elephant ears -- how are you so knowledgeable about old man dicks?

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (Ltmlv)

30 The should ask the seditious six if they believe Trump has given any unconstitutional orders and which ones those were...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (ynpvh)

31 >Department of War Mulls Court-Martialing Senator and Inactive-Duty Officer Mark Kelly for Urging Troops to Defy the Duly-Elected Commander in Chief
----

do I have to say it
somebody else say it

Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (AOsQT)

32 I remember watching the video and they said disobey "illegal orders", not just "orders."

What legal impact does that have?

Probably renders it not a crime.

Posted by: EFG at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (vuQMF)

33 Kelly looks like Gollum's uncle.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (NcvvS)

34 We will definitely have to figure out a way to dismiss these charges.

Posted by: Democrat JAG judge at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (jYRYu)

35 29 Mark Kelly looks like someone stuck elephant ears on an old man's dick
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

Forget about the elephant ears -- how are you so knowledgeable about old man dicks?

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (Ltmlv)

When you're a man and you're old...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (ynpvh)

36 Kelly is a flake and a disgrace to the astronaut corps.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (PBG/z)

37 Is this Gabby’s husband, or his twin?
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

Gabby's husband. The twin was an astronaut.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)

38 Kelly belongs on some program about aliens.

Close Encounters of the Dorkus kind.

Mark Kelly looks like someone stuck elephant ears on an old man's dick

Poetry.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (Riz8t)

39 Of course an issue that hinges on what "legal" means is going to turn into a ridiculous fiasco.

Half of this country thinks "legal" means "whatever I approve of today".

They reject the fundamental premise of America, that we are a nation of Laws, not Men.

And then they use that very line about Laws and Men as their rallying cry as they subvert the Law and inject the whims of their own Men into its hollowed out carcass.

They're not wrong. They're evil.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (06Hmj)

40 30 The should ask the seditious six if they believe Trump has given any unconstitutional orders and which ones those were...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (ynpvh)

They have. I would say "even" CNN did, but that is all an op. They asked it to give them an out. Which they took.

Each and every one of them says they didn't mean nothing by it.

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (RoO7G)

41 >>Color revolution, there is a manual and specific steps to take to create one.

I think that's why Trump acted so quickly and loudly to go after these ass clowns. Also why he wanted the Epstein crap to disappear.

The left will keep running these scams until they are stopped.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (viF8m)

42 Color revolution, there is a manual and specific steps to take to create one.

Yup. Mike Benz and others have noted that these statements are along those lines, and that the head of the Army (Driscoll, but not Ed Driscoll) has been publicly cozying up to the Vindmans since this started. So you can already see the outlines of the intended color revolution.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (2ocoG)

43 20 Bug-eyed, freaky looking chap.
Posted by: Count de Monet
=======
Circumcised penis head aka dickhead.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (WDjG6)

44 We shall vote and litigate our way out of this. And we shall have better candidates.

All will be well!

Okay i just read that back and its even stupider now than it was years ago.

Posted by: Oh well, it was worth a try at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (4C4f2)

45 I don’t believe that the term “illegal order” is defined anywhere.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

46 >Sounds right to me
But some Leftist fking judge will declare its his 1st Amendment freedom

Posted by: Skip
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this guy gets it

Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 02:39 PM (AOsQT)

47 32 I remember watching the video and they said disobey "illegal orders", not just "orders."

What legal impact does that have?

Probably renders it not a crime.
Posted by: EFG at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (vuQMF)

They ran every word through some attorney so they can weasel out of any repercussions is my guess.
I think saying illegal orders is a weasel way to have deniable when called on what they're doing. They mean any orders the left doesn't like are illegal but they won't say that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:39 PM (vZUXb)

48 Pretty sure that guy could play Judge Doon's evil twin brother in the sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Dude has crazy eyes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (4S2yc)

49 Mark "Penishead" Kelley obviously thought he was immune from prosecution for his statements, but the extent of his cowardice is stunning: he was urging younger servicemen to throw away their entire career and face court-martial by refusing to follow their CiC.

These fuckstain shitburgers are really big and bold then it's other people who will face the consequences, aren't they? Why not do it yourself, big boy? You should be thrilled to be recalled into service to face the consequences.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (iFTx/)

50 Senator CueBall looks like a Dick. Therefore he is a traitor and should be treated as such. These are rules Dims created, and I am happy to enforce them on them until time immemorial.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (Dg7ng)

51 Officers in the US Armed Forces are under a special obligation to respect the chain of command.
Aren't they?

-
Not according to Pussy Blitzer.

NEW: Congresswoman Lisa McClain SILENCES Wolf Blitzer after he asks: “Should members of the US military or intelligence community obey what are clearly illegal orders?”

McCLAIN: “You're asking an enlisted person for their opinion on what they think is legal or illegal. That's a pretty slippery slope. Follow your commander in chief. That's the oath that you took.”
. . . .

BLITZER: During WW2, these Nazi officers were following the chain of command, obeying illegal orders and they slaughtered Jews during the Holocaust

LISA McCLAIN: We're a long way from the Nuremberg trials and the slaughtering of Jews. If you want to talk about the slaughtering the Jews we can have that conversation another time

-
P.S. It's not Trump and MAGA who favor killing the Jews.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (L/fGl)

52 I'm not sayin' it was Mark Kelly...

...but it was Mark Kelly.

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalos at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (UnA8+)

53 Is it just possible that the Sedition Video was a PsyOp to draw Trump & Co into another partisan fight to distract them from dealing with the economy and affordability... Issues where the Republicans are vulnerable?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (nOzI+)

54 37 I thought that they were both astronauts.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (77rzZ)

55 I don’t believe that the term “illegal order” is defined anywhere.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

Get it right, H8R - undocumented order.

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (Ltmlv)

56 Okay i just read that back and its even stupider now than it was years ago.

Posted by: Oh well, it was worth a try

Is there some reason we weren't just wedgie-ing jokers that spewed that bit on the spot back then? I'm still not clear on that.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (OUMaO)

57 Half of this country thinks "legal" means "whatever I approve of today".
==
More importanly, half the judiciary thinks this.

Posted by: Oh well, it was worth a try at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (4C4f2)

58 They ran every word through some attorney so they can weasel out of any repercussions is my guess.
I think saying illegal orders is a weasel way to have deniable when called on what they're doing. They mean any orders the left doesn't like are illegal but they won't say that.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:39 PM (vZUXb)

Geez. Weasel is taking a beating today......Poor guy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

59 Dang, that is one bug-eyed looking mutant.

Posted by: Sen. Adam Schiff at November 24, 2025 02:41 PM (Riz8t)

60 I thought that they were both astronauts.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (77rzZ)

I really don't know as I don't give a flying f*ck about either one of them and haven't followed their career for one minute other than the fact that I know THIS f*ck is married to HoleInHead.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

61 It does set up an interesting paradigm. Those not Leftists are seeing example after example of how Leftist civilian officials are immune from the law and the Constitution no matter what they do. And if these courts martial come to pass, it would appear to civilian observers that the UCMJ does have a possibility of delivering law and justice. I am not sure that is the kind of example that the old "Civics" classes back when I was in school [Paleolithic days] would like.

Subotai Bahadur

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at November 24, 2025 02:42 PM (d58be)

62 Is it just possible that the Sedition Video was a PsyOp to draw Trump & Co into another partisan fight to distract them from dealing with the economy and affordability... Issues where the Republicans are vulnerable?

No, there are signs all over the place that the CIA color revolution playbook is fully in play against Trump. Yes, it's also a distraction, but GOPe won't fix that stuff anyway.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:42 PM (2ocoG)

63
Get it right, H8R - undocumented order.
Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (Ltmlv)

Asylum seeking order?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

64 Kelly's eyes remind me of the way hypnotized or brainwashed people looked in old movies.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 24, 2025 02:42 PM (kTd/k)

65 Why bother? The it will get thrown out just like the rest. Bout done with trump.

Posted by: Bob at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (YiqZD)

66 Did the lack of gravity in space cause Kelly's eyes to bulge out?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (bfwj/)

67

He looks like the Hills Have eyes guy.

Posted by: Rev DR E Buzz at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (och2J)

68 45 I don’t believe that the term “illegal order” is defined anywhere.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

The term is its own definition.

A soldier can't be ordered to rob a liquor store. A soldier can't be ordered to murder a non-combatant.

There are no legal niceties to sift through. But as with everything the Evil party touches, the simple is made to seem bafflingly complex while the bafflingly complex is distilled down to a retarded five word slogan that may or may not rhyme.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (06Hmj)

69

Geez. Weasel is taking a beating today......Poor guy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

Aww, now I feel bad and I need a different word for weasel.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (vZUXb)

70 Kelly's eyes remind me of the way hypnotized or brainwashed people looked in old movies.

Marty Feldman in Young Frankenstein?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

71 55 I don’t believe that the term “illegal order” is defined anywhere.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (77rzZ)

Get it right, H8R - undocumented order.

Posted by: Doof at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (Ltmlv)

Mis, Dis, Mal, and Un-documented orders...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

72 39 Of course an issue that hinges on what "legal" means is going to turn into a ridiculous fiasco.

Half of this country thinks "legal" means "whatever I approve of today".

They reject the fundamental premise of America, that we are a nation of Laws, not Men.

And then they use that very line about Laws and Men as their rallying cry as they subvert the Law and inject the whims of their own Men into its hollowed out carcass.

They're not wrong. They're evil.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
=====
I would be very careful about assuming anything regarding voting or popular opinion via polling.

Basically in most political society, about 10-15 percent are engaged all the time with eating,breathing, etc. politics. About evenly divided between GOP and Democrats with a sprinking of minor party types. So most of the hype you are seeing about color revolution crap is from about 5-7 percent of the population with those who casually follow politics multiplying it to about 22-25 percent of the US population.

It is MADE to seem bigger than it ever is in popular support. But in reality, it relies on fraud, control of vote counting, selected examples of rioting, street marches, etc. by those paid,

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (WDjG6)

73 Did the lack of gravity in space cause Kelly's eyes to bulge out?

He got too close to Adam Schiff in the Congressional shower and the bug eye disease jumped hosts.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (2ocoG)

74 He's got Ozempic Face, I'd say.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (06Hmj)

75 I thought that they were both astronauts.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:40 PM (77rzZ)
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Space cadets, maybe.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (0cOaq)

76 Did the lack of gravity in space cause Kelly's eyes to bulge out?

It was probably the air pump he stuck up his butt at the gas station.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (Riz8t)

77 I remember watching the video and they said disobey "illegal orders", not just "orders."

What legal impact does that have?

Probably renders it not a crime.
Posted by: EFG at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (vuQMF)

They ran every word through some attorney so they can weasel out of any repercussions is my guess.
I think saying illegal orders is a weasel way to have deniable when called on what they're doing. They mean any orders the left doesn't like are illegal but they won't say that.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:39 PM (vZUXb)
_____

100% they vetted all this with lawyers. The entire thing was scripted and staged. And yes, they were very careful to say "illegal orders."

But that might not get them out of jail free, especially under the UCMJ (which is broader than civilian criminal law). Their statements were heavily lawyered, but the intent was clear as day: Trump is giving illegal orders and you should resist them.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (iFTx/)

78 69 Aww, now I feel bad and I need a different word for weasel.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (vZUXb)

Mustelid.

Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (UnA8+)

79 Did the lack of gravity in space cause Kelly's eyes to bulge out?

He got too close to Adam Schiff in the Congressional shower and the bug eye disease jumped hosts.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (2ocoG)

It's an STD.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (91TQ2)

80 As noted by others, this is Trump strangling another Color Revolution in the crib.

The video wasn't spontaneous or a one-off:
It was Act 1 of a whole series of acts and related events they've planned out to amp "Impeachment III" up.

Next is/was pre-planted officers who anonymously claim orders are illegal.

There were/are planned a whole bunch of former-military "MAGA" social media accounts staged to roll in with agreement.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (VlU/R)

81 Their statements were heavily lawyered, but the intent was clear as day: Trump is giving illegal orders and you should resist them.

They've said, separately, that deporting illegals is an illegal order.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (2ocoG)

82 Some judge will just invalidate it, as always.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (3uBP9)

83 a judge has already ruled that the prosecutor cannot bring charges, due to democrat.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (0U5gm)

84 There were/are planned a whole bunch of former-military "MAGA" social media accounts staged to roll in with agreement.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (VlU/R)

From.... Pakistan?

There really is no such thing as a coincidence, is there?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (06Hmj)

85 Mr Grabby Giffords

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (HTa/G)

86 Hegseth should personally execute the sentence.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (rGPrJ)

87 77
But that might not get them out of jail free, especially under the UCMJ (which is broader than civilian criminal law). Their statements were heavily lawyered, but the intent was clear as day: Trump is giving illegal orders and you should resist them.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (iFTx/)

=======

"Grunts should steal American aircraft to go fight Putin because Trump is illegally not ordering America to go to war in Ukraine."
-I bet

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

88 Kelly has no allegiance to America.

Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2025 02:47 PM (Bg+2b)

89 CIA color revolution playbook is fully in play against Trump. Yes, it's also a distraction, but GOPe won't fix that stuff anyway.
==
Yep. They are trying to lay groundwork for the processwhich will used to justify the coup. They are gonna claim trump is a tyrant and they are lawfully throwing him out. The endless insane provocations have so far failed to trigger a response beyond appeals. They will eventually manufactur something.

Posted by: Oh well, it was worth a try at November 24, 2025 02:47 PM (4C4f2)

90 Do it.

Posted by: steevy at November 24, 2025 02:47 PM (YwEeS)

91 Elections in Arizona are like those in other cheat by mail states. Not a valid indication that the Democrat actually won.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:34 PM (WDjG6)

We are voting as hard as we CAN

Posted by: Kindltot - from the land of 125% voter turnout at November 24, 2025 02:48 PM (rbvCR)

92 Because they broadcast their seditious statement to the world, they influenced uniformed people in every military installation. No need to try him in front of a DC jury, feel free to put him in front of a jury of officers from the Wyoming National Guard.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 24, 2025 02:48 PM (NBcgk)

93 Please send MP's into the Senate to cuff Kelly and remove him to the base, in the most humiliating fashion.

Posted by: Dave's not here at November 24, 2025 02:48 PM (kp5iD)

94 62 Is it just possible that the Sedition Video was a PsyOp to draw Trump & Co into another partisan fight to distract them from dealing with the economy and affordability... Issues where the Republicans are vulnerable?

No, there are signs all over the place that the CIA color revolution playbook is fully in play against Trump. Yes, it's also a distraction, but GOPe won't fix that stuff anyway.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:42 PM (2ocoG)

This. The CIA needs a cleaning like the Stygian stables did.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

95
He got too close to Adam Schiff in the Congressional shower and the bug eye disease jumped hosts.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (2ocoG)

It's an STD.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (91TQ2)

So facial syphllis is a thing and apparently is contagious.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (vZUXb)

96 Waste of time.

FOCUS on the economy.

Posted by: coba at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (IuIym)

97 Imagine this guy's o-face.

The horror, the horror.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)

98 Augean Stables...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (ynpvh)

99 Yeah? What are the Statute of limitations on sedition?

Posted by: Shaftoe at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (Rvxb7)

100 don't know what the point is of announcing they are "considering" this action, unless they really are trying to fvck with his head

maybe they are monitoring his technology to see where his panic calls/texts/emails are going

Posted by: kallisto at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (dCxaZ)

101 It’s always helpful to look at Article 88 of the UCMJ.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (XNKbf)

102 95
He got too close to Adam Schiff in the Congressional shower and the bug eye disease jumped hosts.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:44 PM (2ocoG)

It's an STD.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at November 24, 2025 02:45 PM (91TQ2)

So facial syphllis is a thing and apparently is contagious.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (vZUXb)

So those Japanese into eyeball licking...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (ynpvh)

103 Some judge will just invalidate it, as always.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (3uBP9)

83 a judge has already ruled that the prosecutor cannot bring charges, due to democrat.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (0U5gm)

[Touching fists] Cynic powers ACTIVATE!

Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (3uBP9)

104 88 Kelly has no allegiance to America.
Posted by: Eromero
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Well, he is likely to have a cartel hand up his ass telling him what to say and do. Plus, apparently he was one of the people that Obama wanted as Dem 2024 nominee instead of Kamala.

Apparently treats his brain damaged wife horribly as well which would figure for an asshole like Kelly was. Remember how he purposefully broke firearm laws to promote his sorry ass campaign against gun rights.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (WDjG6)

105 I'm still waiting for that carrier captain who panicked over covid to get some consequences.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (8VwBr)

106 IO stands for what in this context? Information Operations?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:35 PM (dK+Kv)

That is what I understand.

Look, I just did tax law. I depend on others for arcana

Posted by: Kindltot - from the land of 125% voter turnout at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (rbvCR)

107 I assume the “nothing will happen” guy has already weighed in? I try to do a little work even on Thanksgiving week and I miss a Nood

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (/iXAp)

108 Take a look at Elissa Slotkin's background. CIA, DOD, State Dept., she's as swampy as they come.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (viF8m)

109 96 Waste of time.

FOCUS on the economy.

Posted by: coba at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (IuIym)

======

The economy that's seeing rents diving, wages increasing, inflation under wages, and general improvements almost all from deporting about 3 million people?

People who bitch about the economy and the "affordability crisis" who don't acknowledge any of the actual advancements are either stupid or trolls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

110 87 "Grunts should steal American aircraft to go fight Putin because Trump is illegally not ordering America to go to war in Ukraine."
-I bet
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (GBKbO)

"Europe demands that the US kill Putin, so therefore not killing Putin is illegal!"

Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (UnA8+)

111
In doing all of this, Crow shifts the conversation away from what was actually said and into a battle over perceived intent, a classic PSYOP mechanism that reframes political disagreement as existential warfare.

This is not an evidentiary argument—it is a strategic influence play aimed at narrative dominance.

It is important that Americans recognize these tactics so that they can understand when propaganda is being pushed by their own government officials.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (rbvCR)

Of course, I just think he is an asshole so I dismiss everything he does.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (XNKbf)

112 What are the Statute of limitations on sedition
==
With or without a successful overthrow of the govt?

Posted by: It matters doesnt it at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (4C4f2)

113 Their statements were heavily lawyered, but the intent was clear as day: Trump is giving illegal orders and you should resist them.

They've said, separately, that deporting illegals is an illegal order.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:46 PM (2ocoG)
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The NG are defending federal agents being attacked as they are doing their duty. I think the attack on federal officers is illegal.

I think it's a bad precedent to recognize the "riot veto".

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (krQz2)

114

Mr. Space Man, I want to be a space man too, d-d-be -bop-a-bop

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (pkeXY)

115 The economy that's seeing rents diving, wages increasing, inflation under wages, and general improvements almost all from deporting about 3 million people?

People who bitch about the economy and the "affordability crisis" who don't acknowledge any of the actual advancements are either stupid or trolls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

A major thing that might kick in over the next few months is the decline of prices at the pump.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:52 PM (XNKbf)

116 You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. ...

Posted by: Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.) at November 24, 2025 02:52 PM (wVcYX)

117 When they were airing the seditious six statement on talk radio I was screaming in my car. "YOU commies are the domestic enemies, Trump is the patriot"

Posted by: PaleRider at November 24, 2025 02:52 PM (hhkIi)

118
Those cosmic rays must have done some real damage to Kelly's brain.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 24, 2025 02:53 PM (OgWfa)

119 113 The NG are defending federal agents being attacked as they are doing their duty. I think the attack on federal officers is illegal.

I think it's a bad precedent to recognize the "riot veto".

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (krQz2)

=====

You...you were alive during 2020, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:53 PM (GBKbO)

120 >>> maybe they are monitoring his technology to see where his panic calls/texts/emails are going
Posted by: kallisto at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (dCxaZ)

text message from GOP number 8 bajilion:

Don't you see us owning the libs for you brother? Why are you not donating? Don't you want to continue seeing us owning the libs? See these sad kittens? They are crying because you are not helping us own the libs.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 02:53 PM (3uBP9)

121 96 Waste of time.

FOCUS on the economy.
Posted by: coba at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (IuIym)

It is painful to accept but being President means dealing with many, many things.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:53 PM (XNKbf)

122
House Republican veterans speak DIRECTLY to the military and intelligence community, urging them to stand strong for law, order, and the Constitution.

https://is.gd/CZw4yy

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 02:53 PM (wcolm)

123 Waste of time.

FOCUS on the economy.

Posted by: coba at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (IuIym)

======

The economy that's seeing rents diving, wages increasing, inflation under wages, and general improvements almost all from deporting about 3 million people?

People who bitch about the economy and the "affordability crisis" who don't acknowledge any of the actual advancements are either stupid or trolls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

Aside from that, there are a lot of one hit wonder, Johnnie Come Latelies suddenly "concerned" about all of Trump's doings, almost as if they are only here to sew discontent and spread FUD.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (dK+Kv)

124 Europe demands that the US kill Putin, so therefore not killing Putin is illegal!"
==
Trannies are people and should be allowed to serve therefore i will shoot my own dick off in protest.

Posted by: Gomer Woke Pyle at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (4C4f2)

125 Yeah? What are the Statute of limitations on sedition?
Posted by: Shaftoe at November 24, 2025 02:50 PM (Rvxb7)

Let’s check with Kramer…

https://tinyurl.com/mr3xfzkt

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (/iXAp)

126
It is painful to accept but being President means dealing with many, many things.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:53 PM (XNKbf)

But, he's a stupid poopy head that has no clue what he's doing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

127 ANY order up to and including executing civilians (Ala J6 reichstag fire) by democrats is legal and you will be prosecuted for not following it.

The converse is true for Republicans.

See how that works?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (zZu0s)

128 123 Aside from that, there are a lot of one hit wonder, Johnnie Come Latelies suddenly "concerned" about all of Trump's doings, almost as if they are only here to sew discontent and spread FUD.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (dK+Kv)

======

If only Pixy could program in the location thing like X just did...

Then you'd see that I'm actually Antarctican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)

129
Kelly can say it wasn't him said that but his brother (They are twins).

Posted by: YIKES! at November 24, 2025 02:55 PM (OgWfa)

130 Where have you gone, Spaceman Spiff?

A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:55 PM (77rzZ)

131 You would think Trump would have learned something the first go-round, but then it appears he is incapable of learning. This would be another amateur hour move, right along with the goatfuck that the Comey and James indictments turned into.

There's been years of actual criminal acts committed, and they're wasting time with this. If you do it right the first time, then there's less chance of it being thrown back in your face. Still might happen, but at least you're not beclowning yourself in the process.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 24, 2025 02:55 PM (MZ+PY)

132 It'll never happen. Or if it does, some Dem Judge will throw it out before it starts.

Posted by: Iblis at November 24, 2025 02:55 PM (9221z)

133 88 Kelly has no allegiance to America.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2025 02:47 PM (Bg+2b)

No allegiance but to himself.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:55 PM (XNKbf)

134 This video is the equivalence of those "sovereign citizen" videos.

"No, that order is unconstitutional."
"Am I being detained."

I want to see someone try it. Tell the court their congressman made them do it.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 24, 2025 02:56 PM (8VwBr)

135 And I DGAF about the technical definition of sedition:

These are the same assholes that have been lying for years that "Trump incited an insurrection!!" on J6.

F 'em.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 02:56 PM (VlU/R)

136 IO stands for what in this context? Information Operations?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:35 PM (dK+Kv)

That is what I understand.

Look, I just did tax law. I depend on others for arcana

Posted by: Kindltot - from the land of 125% voter turnout at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (rbvCR)

I have a friend who is in military intel and knows well this FM and the concepts presented in that tweet I am sure. Unfortunately, he is a bit of a leftist and it likely would not be a friendly conversation. Pity.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:56 PM (dK+Kv)

137 My estimate of the Dems play here is cast a shroud of questionability over the legality of blowing up their future voters who are transporting illegal goods on the high seas.

They are hoping someone in the military will act on that and then the argument will be on. The Dems won't be a part of it, it will all be between some active duty Navy Captain who has a transitioning child and Trump.

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 02:56 PM (RoO7G)

138 The economy that's seeing rents diving, wages increasing, inflation under wages, and general improvements almost all from deporting about 3 million people?

People who bitch about the economy and the "affordability crisis" who don't acknowledge any of the actual advancements are either stupid or trolls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

A major thing that might kick in over the next few months is the decline of prices at the pump.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 02:52 PM (XNKbf)
____

Three things will motivate GOP voters:

1. Economy
2. Vengeance
3. Boobs

#1 is already in play and moving in the right direction. I personally think Trump has done more for the economy in 10 months than any president ever.

Going after ratfucks like Kelly ticks #2.

#3? You bros are on your own. But happy, optimistic girls are more likely to show you their boobs than bitter miserable ones.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 02:56 PM (iFTx/)

139 Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 24, 2025 02:55 PM (MZ+PY)

Interesting . I have only seen you post negative things about Trump. Hmmmmm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 02:57 PM (RKlIw)

140 Yep just like in the Kubrick movie we stand him strapped to a stretcher and shoot him at dawn.

All the leftists will shriek but say nothing about all the valient soldiers killed doing their duty.

Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 02:57 PM (6/eme)

141 If only Pixy could program in the location thing like X just did...

Then you'd see that I'm actually Antarctican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)

I thought you were Promethean?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:57 PM (dK+Kv)

142 Then you'd see that I'm actually Antarctican.
==
Is that why walk like a penguin???

Posted by: Walk like an antarctican at November 24, 2025 02:57 PM (4C4f2)

143 I thought a lot of this was overblown until somebody posted the text of 18 U.S.C.

"Having an opinion" IS "I don't think the President should have ordered C, because that is illegal for him to do."

"Hey, you troops, we're going to tell you that the president is ordering illegal actions" is NOT "having an opinion". It's in violation of the law that says you can't interfere with military morale and chain of command.

As typical the difference that Dems don't want to see will not be seen.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 02:57 PM (krQz2)

144 The other female Senator in this gang was a CIA officer, so guess lots were out to get President Trump the first administration

Posted by: Skip at November 24, 2025 02:58 PM (+qU29)

145 As I have noted elsewhere (and you can see in that photo), Mark Kelly is the most prominent D.C. figure who looks like he's wearing one of those newfangled high-tech masks. They're nearly perfect, except for the unavoidable: you put extra material around the eyes, they become deep-set.

Maybe he's just a mutant freak, but I have been made aware that he has a twin who is also an astronaut, which makes this neatly testable. Twins frequently share personality traits, and the wealthy are notoriously cheap; so, if Mark has an aversion to the inanities of meet-and-greets, then his twin probably does too -- and they would almost certainly take advantage of the cost savings of hiring the same body double to cover both of them, since they're supposed to look the same anyway.

Hypothesis: That's an actor in a mask.
Null hypothesis: He's a mutant freak.
Test: Look for photos of him at events where he's seated next to his twin. If they look like normal people, then yeah, they're using a body double for their solo appearances; if they still have deep-set eyes, then it's more likely that they're mutant freaks than that they're rich people who aren't cheapskates.

Posted by: SciVo at November 24, 2025 02:58 PM (vQLHf)

146 People who bitch about the economy and the "affordability crisis" who don't acknowledge any of the actual advancements are either stupid or trolls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
======
Back in the Usenet days, typologies of trolls floated around. You saw a lot of that in the tech threads where muh Intel, muh Apple, muh AMD shills were used for Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. A simple read of WCCTech threads even today show the same stupid (mas)debaters. Big on simple declarative sentences, very light on actual detail, nuance, nor dialectical truth.

Aristotle, in his The Art of Rhetoric, nailed describing human nature involved in social and political debates.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:59 PM (WDjG6)

147 Imagine this guy's o-face.

The horror, the horror.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 24, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)

This place.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:59 PM (dK+Kv)

148 "116 You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. ...

Posted by: Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.) at November 24, 2025 02:52 PM (wVcYX) "

on a spike, over the gate ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 03:00 PM (Cjt/F)

149 ANY order up to and including executing civilians (Ala J6 reichstag fire) by democrats is legal and you will be prosecuted for not following it.

The converse is true for Republicans.

See how that works?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (zZu0s)
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NO ONE is above the law that puts Dems on a different level than Pubs.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:00 PM (krQz2)

150 As typical the difference that Dems don't want to see will not be seen.
Posted by: Axeman
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I no longer consider the Democrats and media other than a party of criminals and collaborators. I consider GOPe types as collaborators.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:00 PM (WDjG6)

151 Will anything come of this?

Posted by: Because nothing usually does at November 24, 2025 03:01 PM (QwTID)

152 132 It'll never happen. Or if it does, some Dem Judge will throw it out before it starts.

Dem appointed judges have zero jurisdiction in military tribunals.

Posted by: Dave's not here at November 24, 2025 03:02 PM (kp5iD)

153 Whig, I’ve said it before, and will again. Satan is a Democrat.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:02 PM (77rzZ)

154 144 The other female Senator in this gang was a CIA officer, so guess lots were out to get President Trump the first administration
Posted by: Skip
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Who also won a 'fake' victory relying on Detroit manufactured ballots to win.

Democrats are a party of criminals as I said.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:02 PM (WDjG6)

155 Then you'd see that I'm actually Antarctican.
==
Is that why walk like a penguin???
Posted by: Walk like an antarctican at November 24, 2025 02:57 PM (4C4f2)

It doesn't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!

Posted by: Private Frost at November 24, 2025 03:02 PM (wVcYX)

156 >>> Going after ratfucks like Kelly ticks #2.

I don't know if people realize this but the GOP repeatedly trying for the revenge angle and it always turns into a pathetic joke batted away effortlessly by our leftist rulers is even worse than nothing because:

1). Everybody then realizes it was just a stupid goatfvk with no real plan

2). The left has a record of being spectacularly successful at the same, throwing people in jail, dungeons pretty much, ruining people's lives, and have done so over and over again for decades with no sign of stopping and getting worse every cycle.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 03:03 PM (3uBP9)

157 Back in the Usenet days, typologies of trolls floated around. You saw a lot of that in the tech threads where muh Intel, muh Apple, muh AMD shills were used for Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. A simple read of WCCTech threads even today show the same stupid (mas)debaters. Big on simple declarative sentences, very light on actual detail, nuance, nor dialectical truth.

Aristotle, in his The Art of Rhetoric, nailed describing human nature involved in social and political debates.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 02:59 PM (WDjG6)

I am going to get there, but that is still on my to read list.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 03:03 PM (dK+Kv)

158 Can convictions under the UCMJ be appealed to SCOTUS?

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:03 PM (77rzZ)

159 This Kelly fellow is a bit of a twat, isn't he?

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (6Bc88)

160 Don't you see us owning the libs for you brother? Why are you not donating? Don't you want to continue seeing us owning the libs? See these sad kittens? They are crying because you are not helping us own the libs.

I just unsubbed from a really annoying number that allegedly was Trump fundraiser

it sounded like it was coming from a very needy ex-boyfriend

Posted by: kallisto at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (dCxaZ)

161 This Kelly fellow is a bit of a twat, isn't he?

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (6Bc8

He is the whole twat.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (dK+Kv)

162 158 Can convictions under the UCMJ be appealed to SCOTUS?
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:03 PM (77rzZ)

Not to my knowledge. Different silos.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (6Bc88)

163 *Is that why walk like a penguin???*

We tried that.
Went with Egyptians instead.

Posted by: The Bangles at November 24, 2025 03:05 PM (QwTID)

164 I have a friend who is in military intel and knows well this FM and the concepts presented in that tweet I am sure. Unfortunately, he is a bit of a leftist and it likely would not be a friendly conversation. Pity.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Most of them are ultimately stupid. You can start a color revolution but without popular support, which these assholes never get, it falls apart often into a bloody mess. Ultimately tacit approval of a populace is necessary--without that, color revolutions end up eating their own.

Too many intellectuals are too enamored with their own intelligence to believe that other people can see through their self serving bullshit and tyranny.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:06 PM (WDjG6)

165 /signs up for ~~Twitter~~ /X Whatever the heck it's called today

/sees location as being "Zeta Reticulae"

Fair cop...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 03:06 PM (OUMaO)

166 Driving back to work after my doctor's appointment I listened to the Cranbarries 'Dream' song. I really liked that sound. Too bad about the crazy chick dying and all.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 24, 2025 03:06 PM (Wg6v7)

167 sounded like it was coming from a very needy ex-boyfriend
===
Please to send Bobs and Vagine pix!!!!

Posted by: Its me sanjay!! Whats up hit me back yo at November 24, 2025 03:06 PM (4C4f2)

168 158 Can convictions under the UCMJ be appealed to SCOTUS?
Posted by: Bulg
=====
US Court of Military Appeals and thence to Scotus. Like state cases, Scotus has ultimate oversight if a federal question is involved but before then, it goes through the state court system.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:07 PM (WDjG6)

169 When I left the Navy after 13 years, it was my understanding that I was transferred to the inactive reserve, subject to recall to active duty at the discretion of the PTB.

I guess that may be different from being retired, but maybe there's a loophole there to investigate those who bailed short of retirement and perhaps activate them to stand court martial if warranted?

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:07 PM (Y1sOo)

170 Too many intellectuals are too enamored with their own intelligence to believe that other people can see through their self serving bullshit and tyranny.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:06 PM (WDjG6)

This, too, is the story of Obama.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 03:07 PM (dK+Kv)

171 135 And I DGAF about the technical definition of sedition:

These are the same assholes that have been lying for years that "Trump incited an insurrection!!" on J6.

F 'em.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 02:56 PM (VlU/R)

This, please.

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 24, 2025 03:07 PM (6Bc88)

172 This Kelly fellow is a bit of a twat, isn't he?

Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (6Bc8

He is the whole twat.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 03:04 PM (dK+Kv)

He is more like the girl who does not even want to argue fuck, but just wants to pick a fight about anything and everything.

Kind of useless.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 24, 2025 03:08 PM (zZu0s)

173 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness. The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

Posted by: Lord Comey at November 24, 2025 03:08 PM (WFC1M)

174 158 Can convictions under the UCMJ be appealed to SCOTUS?
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:03 PM (77rzZ)

Depends. Is the conviction of a Leftist?

(Intended as AOSHQ level snark but Bowe Bergdahl's desertion conviction was overturned by a Federal District judge.)

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:08 PM (RoO7G)

175 152 132 It'll never happen. Or if it does, some Dem Judge will throw it out before it starts.

Dem appointed judges have zero jurisdiction in military tribunals.
Posted by: Dave's not here at November 24, 2025 03:02 PM (kp5iD)

I'm sure there are plenty of Leftist judges in the military who can preside over his court martial. Sorry, it's getting harder not to be black-pilled at this point.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 24, 2025 03:08 PM (8hxDK)

176 I remember when one officer pointed out Bill Clinton was a pot smoking draft dodger - a 100% objectively true statement - and he was removed for it.

Now we have politicians demanding members of the military commit insubordination under threat of prosecution if they don't?

That sounds more like an insurrection that anything the protestors on J6 did.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:09 PM (sKqQm)

177 Is this Gabby’s husband, or his twin?
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

Mark Kelly is actually the reason Loughner shot Gabby. Loughner was obsessed with Gabby (he had a shrine to her at his parent's house) and had a bunch of conspiracy theories about NASA. When Gabby announced she was marrying Kelly the Astronut, Loughner went further round the bend and into homicidal rage.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at November 24, 2025 03:10 PM (Hb1Lg)

178 (Intended as AOSHQ level snark but Bowe Bergdahl's desertion conviction was overturned by a Federal District judge.)
Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:08 PM (RoO7G)

I remember when I told my buddy who was retiring after 23 years in the Marine Corps about them trading for Bergdahl. "WHAT!?!? We don't negotiate with terrorists!!!"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

179 I can see Slotkin saying " sorry Mark I can't be a witness because I will be having to do something else that day. Swearsies"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 24, 2025 03:10 PM (bfwj/)

180 I see Wolf Blitzer blathered on about Nuremberg in response to this.

Well, the only Nuremberg worthy thing the US military has done in recent memory is forcing its own soldiers to take a poison shot.

So by all means lets get those trials going right Wolfie?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:10 PM (sKqQm)

181 When Gabby announced she was marrying Kelly the Astronut, Loughner went further round the bend and into homicidal rage.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at November 24, 2025 03:10 PM (Hb1Lg)

Not true. It's because Sarah Palin put a crosshairs on Arizona on a map.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

182 >>> Driving back to work after my doctor's appointment I listened to the Cranbarries 'Dream' song. I really liked that sound. Too bad about the crazy chick dying and all.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 24, 2025 03:06 PM (Wg6v7)

She was severely depressed a lot and self medicated with massive quantities of alcohol. Not an excuse, and not a good choice, but I dearly sympathize with people like her most days. Which is why I'll stop dooming, because with me there's no end to it and I'll just go off the deep end.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (3uBP9)

183 Doesn't the military have the "Political Opposition Clause" wherein you can't court-martial someone for treason or seditious conspiracy if they are the politicial opposition?

Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (Lp05i)

184 The whole thing with Maxine Waters demanding to be let in to DoE buildings, Dems in Congress trying to get into ICE facilities, combined with this political propaganda shows you that lawmakers don't know that their job is, and they don't know how to do their jobs.

Ask some Pubs in Congress how hard it was to get into jails to see the J6 prisoners!

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (krQz2)

185 I would like to see his dome buffed with a wire wheel on PPV. I crack myself up. Nothing will be done.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (abIsI)

186 I miss Maxine Waters' Hair.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)

187 That is one weird looking dude. Or is it cruel to mention that?

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (PCK5/)

188 I remember when I told my buddy who was retiring after 23 years in the Marine Corps about them trading for Bergdahl. "WHAT!?!? We don't negotiate with terrorists!!!"

At one point during the Syrian conflict the US was funding two different factions at war with each other both labeled terrorists.

So not only do we negotiate with terrorists we have many different groups of them on retainer...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (sKqQm)

189 >>I'm sure there are plenty of Leftist judges in the military who can preside over his court martial. Sorry, it's getting harder not to be black-pilled at this point.

I don't get that at all. Yea, we've had some setbacks in court decisions but they are almost always overturned. Illegals are being deported, the economy is turning around, wars are ending, and on and on.

We seem to be doing a lot of winning and the left is coming apart at the seams. When AOC is the new leader of your party that's when you get black pilled.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (viF8m)

190
The same congressmen/senators who want military members to disobey orders are the same ones who closed the government and stopped paychecks to military members.

They don't care about you. At all. Just what they can use you for.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 24, 2025 03:13 PM (IifOV)

191 That is one weird looking dude. Or is it cruel to mention that?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (PCK5/)

He, too, is a poster child for face pollution.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

192 Any chance Mark Kelly is actually an alien replicant?

Because as time is going on he is looking less and less human...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:14 PM (sKqQm)

193 I see Wolf Blitzer blathered on about Nuremberg in response to this.
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Of course. But Nuremburg was not about "potentially illegal orders". It was about whether or not being actually ordered actual evil things gives you the excuse it was ordered.

"Big Jeopardy Loser" Wolf Blitzer should always be his full title.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:14 PM (krQz2)

194 So not only do we negotiate with terrorists we have many different groups of them on retainer...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (sKqQm)

By law we send $40m a week to the Taliban....

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:14 PM (RoO7G)

195 Save democracy by staging a military coup against the duly elected president.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 03:15 PM (HW6XE)

196 191 That is one weird looking dude. Or is it cruel to mention that?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (PCK5/)

He, too, is a poster child for face pollution.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

Ya know I was thinking about making snark on going out to dinner on a couples thing with Gabby and Mark, but backed off because that exceeded VDH and Ace cruelty levels.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:16 PM (PCK5/)

197 193 I see Wolf Blitzer blathered on about Nuremberg in response to this.
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Of course. But Nuremburg was not about "potentially illegal orders". It was about whether or not being actually ordered actual evil things gives you the excuse it was ordered.

"Big Jeopardy Loser" Wolf Blitzer should always be his full title.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:14 PM (krQz2)

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The Tokyo Trials > The Nuremberg Trials.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

198 It does amuse me that according to the left the following are illegal activities for our military:

Killing jihadis
Killing nacro-terrorists
Protecting the border

Put making soldiers wear high heels or take a poison shot? Well that's a-ok.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:17 PM (sKqQm)

199 128 123 Aside from that, there are a lot of one hit wonder, Johnnie Come Latelies suddenly "concerned" about all of Trump's doings, almost as if they are only here to sew discontent and spread FUD.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (dK+Kv)

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If only Pixy could program in the location thing like X just did...

Then you'd see that I'm actually Antarctican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)

Or even Uncle-Arctican.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 24, 2025 03:18 PM (ynpvh)

200 Trump is giving illegal orders and you should resist them.
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Check out every single anti-ICE protest.

They all say what Trump is doing is illegal.
They all yell at the officers that their oath says they shouldn't follow illegal orders.

This was 100% meant to say Trump's orders are illegal.

It's like saying, "I didn't yell 'FIRE!' in the theater, I yelled 'I feel like I'm on FIRE!!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 03:18 PM (VlU/R)

201 Not true. It's because Sarah Palin put a crosshairs on Arizona on a map.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (Zz0t1)

Yes, this is known. It was decreed by the FNM and the Donks (BIRM) and written onto the scrolls of Holy Writ, to be taught to the children as truth forevermore.

Also, complete and utter bovine scat. As usual.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at November 24, 2025 03:18 PM (Hb1Lg)

202 The Department of War is reportedly considering recalling Kelly to active duty, just to face an court martial for insubordination (and, I guess, insurrection).
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They should.

Nothing will change - and probably nothing CAN change - until Party Men routinely get destroyed. Court martial? Okay. But ensure there's prison time in addition to stripping him of his rank and dishonorably discharging him.

Party Men from the top to the middle *must* start going down and going down hard if there is to be any hope of change. It does not matter who it is, or the putative reason for it. Just start a scorched-earth war of destruction against *any* Party Man with moderate or better power or influence. Destroy them. I have come to believe that if you want reform, it must start with the personal destruction of those who profit - in whatever terms, be it money or power or respect or position or whatever else - from blocking reform.

Make being a Party Man absolutely terrifying. So yes. Court martial him. Destroy him totally. Then arbitrarily pick the text guy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:18 PM (0lawO)

203 Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 03:11 PM (3uBP9)

Do not go off the deep end. You have people who need you. If you think it would help, take some time off from politics and this board

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 03:19 PM (RKlIw)

204 That is one weird looking dude.

You are not kidding! What a flattering shot. I like to think he's looking at his future.

Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2025 03:19 PM (Lp05i)

205 Five of the six individuals in that video do not fall under @DeptofWar
jurisdiction (one is CIA and four are former military but not "retired", so they are no longer subject to UCMJ). However, Mark Kelly (retired Navy Commander) is still subject to UCMJ--and he knows that.
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Subject to it on paper.

Now prove that he's subject to it in reality.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:19 PM (0lawO)

206 I lost on Jeopardy, baby
Oooh

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at November 24, 2025 03:19 PM (wVcYX)

207 The senator representing the deep state and cia, Slotkin, admitted to ABC’s Martha Radditz that there have been no illegal orders ordered by Trump.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (HW6XE)

208 In other words, service members can't simply say they feel immigration enforcement, for example, is unlawful and walk away, which is precisely what these Democrat lawmakers were trying to incite.
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Not at all.

They want to incite blanket disobedience. Anything uttered by the Orange Man is bad and must be refused. Let's not sugar-coat this.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (0lawO)

209 206 I lost on Jeopardy, baby
Oooh

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at November 24, 2025 03:19 PM (wVcYX)

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I showed Weird: The Al Yankovich Story to Junior.

He enjoyed it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

210 Fetterman actually looks better.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (PCK5/)

211 I think the PTB are laying the groundwork for an Op. There's going to be some serious in your face happen where Trump is forced to send in some form of the military and the press is preparing to go hog wild.

Probably CA maybe LA and ICE with Newsome raising hell and trying to look like a leader.

Posted by: pawn at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (sPsWv)

212 Mark Kelly's left ear ready for takeoff.

Posted by: wth at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (v0R5T)

213 As typical the difference that Dems don't want to see will not be seen.
Posted by: Axeman
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I no longer consider the Democrats and media other than a party of criminals and collaborators. I consider GOPe types as collaborators.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:00 PM (WDjG6)
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"Collaborators" is how *I* would characterize the bulk of the GOP as well.

How many people until recently thought MTG was an ardent conservative.

Seems to me that DC GOP aren't for conserving so much the stability of tradition as whatever is the status quo that they make headway in.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (krQz2)

214 If James Carville had sex with a Ferengi, the bastard offspring would probably look something like Mark Kelly.

He is one weird-looking mofo.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (IG3/x)

215 203 Yes, please nobody go WitchDoktor on us.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (77rzZ)

216 I drew a face on a hotdog and held it up to the facial recognition camera at the Capitol and the door opened and a computer voice said "welcome Senator Kelly"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (iNURe)

217 Because she is naive and is not yet accustomed to constant rug-pulling, this autumnal brunette is smiling pleasantly at the prospect of Party men facing consequences:
http://tiny.cc/xxjv001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (0lawO)

218 I wonder if Hawaiian Judge is feeling less special now. It's like anyone can just any old jurisdiction is good enough.

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (RoO7G)

219 211 I think the PTB are laying the groundwork for an Op. There's going to be some serious in your face happen where Trump is forced to send in some form of the military and the press is preparing to go hog wild.

Probably CA maybe LA and ICE with Newsome raising hell and trying to look like a leader.
Posted by: pawn at November 24, 2025 03:20 PM (sPsWv)

He will appear with epaulettes and a sash.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (PCK5/)

220 Ya know I was thinking about making snark on going out to dinner on a couples thing with Gabby and Mark, but backed off because that exceeded VDH and Ace cruelty levels.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:16 PM (PCK5/)

At least she has the excuse of being shot in the head.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

221 I don't want Kelly convicted for treason, I just want him keelhauled and plank walked.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (WFC1M)

222 As odd looking as Kelly is, remember he's has a twin

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (bfwj/)

223 More importanly, half the judiciary thinks this"

See previous thread...

Posted by: man at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (XuXeR)

224 I no longer consider the Democrats and media other than a party of criminals and collaborators. I consider GOPe types as collaborators.
Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:00 PM (WDjG6)
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The GOP are the "collaborators." The Party itself is not, nor are its members. It can't be. They're the power structure itself.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (0lawO)

225 I drew a face on a hotdog and held it up to the facial recognition camera at the Capitol and the door opened and a computer voice said "welcome Senator Kelly"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (iNURe)

LOL!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

226 You might want to consider buying another brand.

Campbell’s Soup Meltdown: VP’s Alleged Rant Torches Customers, Workers, and the Soup

Local 4 News in Detroit broadcast portions of the recording. In it, a speaker identified as Bally is heard saying, "We have s**t for f***king poor people. Who buys our s**t? I don’t buy Campbell’s products barely anymore. It’s not healthy now that I know what the f**‘s in it."

[…]

The recording, which lasted longer than an hour and 15 minutes, included what Garza said was a "disgusting" rant alleged to be made by Bally about his coworkers: "F***ing Indians don’t know a f***ing thing," and "Like they couldn’t think for their f***ing selves," it said in part.

https://tinyurl.com/3bj54zz6

Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (Riz8t)

227 He will appear with epaulettes and a sash.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (PCK5/)
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Okay.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:23 PM (0lawO)

228 In other words, service members can't simply say they feel immigration enforcement, for example, is unlawful and walk away, which is precisely what these Democrat lawmakers were trying to incite.

Has this not been the modus operandi of the Democrats, media, and academia (BIRM) since at least Vietnam?

Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2025 03:23 PM (Lp05i)

229 >>Then arbitrarily pick the text guy.

What the hell did I do?

Posted by: guy who texts a lot at November 24, 2025 03:23 PM (Y1sOo)

230 Kelly graduated from the US Merchant Marine Academy

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:24 PM (RoO7G)

231 What the hell did I do?
Posted by: guy who texts a lot at November 24, 2025 03:23 PM (Y1sOo)
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LOL.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:24 PM (0lawO)

232 Because she is naive and is not yet accustomed to constant rug-pulling, this autumnal brunette is smiling pleasantly at the prospect of Party men facing consequences:
http://tiny.cc/xxjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (0lawO)
_______

Too clothed and wholesome for a JM Babe. But ... TBWB.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)

233 230 Kelly graduated from the US Merchant Marine Academy
Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:24 PM (RoO7G)

That’s - random.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:24 PM (PCK5/)

234 He will appear with epaulettes and a sash.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (PCK5/)

No capes!

Posted by: Edna Mode at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (wVcYX)

235 Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 03:22 PM (Riz8t)

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Literally everything my mother cooks involved a can of Campbell's soup.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (DRSnL)

236 Shes a cute gal

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (bXbFr)

237 what Joe said, @ 202

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (Cjt/F)

238 Campbell's soup is pretty low end. Did they outsource making the soup to India? Or bring a bunch of H1Bs here?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (sKqQm)

239 *involves

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (DRSnL)

240 Would've sworn Kelly retired as a Captain, not Commander.

Posted by: guy who texts a lot at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (Y1sOo)

241 https://x.com/GBNT1952/status/1992786539797991549

Since they seem intent upon continuously using doctrinal propaganda on the US populace, I think it’s important to highlight exactly what Crow and other Members of Congress are really doing.

Rep. Jason Crow’s post is a doctrinal example of narrative escalation within modern IO and psychological warfare doctrine.

Check out FM 3-05.301 / MISO.

By claiming that the President is threatening him with arrest and execution—a statement never actually made by Trump—Crow amplifies and inflates the narrative to its most extreme form in order to shape public perception.

This tactic, often called interpretive maximalism, takes an opponent’s words or actions and stretches them into a dire or existential threat, allowing the speaker to adopt a position of moral heroism while casting the opponent as an authoritarian danger.

When Crow doubles down on this framing, he creates what IO doctrine refers to as a self sealing narrative, where any denial or criticism becomes proof of the alleged threat.

The emotionally loaded language like “upholding my oath,” “standing with our troops,” “disregard for the rule of law,” are designed to trigger

Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (RHGPo)

242 Is this something?

Rasmussen has had Trump approval at 47% for the past 5 days (they take weekend off so really the past 7 days). It got down to 44,45 the previous 2-3 weeks.

So looks like whatever support he’s lost has slowly come back and is holding steady.

Now that the Epstein nonsense is in the review mirror things should start ticking back up above 50-% which is where it was in mid October.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 03:26 PM (HW6XE)

243 /sock

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:26 PM (Y1sOo)

244 Kelly graduated from the US Merchant Marine Academy

I tell you what, I know everything there is know about seamen. Everything just ask

Posted by: Mark Kelly at November 24, 2025 03:26 PM (sKqQm)

245 He will appear with epaulettes and a sash.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (PCK5/)
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And only those items of clothing.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:27 PM (krQz2)

246 Department of War Mulls Court-Martialing Senator
______________________________

Mulling suggests stroking one's chin in contemplation...which is stupid. When one mulls, they should be stroking the top of their head, but no one does because you end up looking like a chimp.

That is, unless, Hegseth is heating, seasoning and steeping the potential case to draw out its aromatic qualities. The DOJ does that a lot. However, they rarely take a sip.

Posted by: Orson at November 24, 2025 03:28 PM (dIske)

247 Basically in the margin of error

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:28 PM (bXbFr)

248 Because she is naive and is not yet accustomed to constant rug-pulling, this autumnal brunette is smiling pleasantly at the prospect of Party men facing consequences:
http://tiny.cc/xxjv001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (0lawO)

That's a great smile.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (dK+Kv)

249 Coincidentally, I just watched The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell, so I believe I'm now an expert on court martial procedures in the US military.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

250 Martin mull

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (bXbFr)

251 Because she is naive and is not yet accustomed to constant rug-pulling, this autumnal brunette is smiling pleasantly at the prospect of Party men facing consequences:
http://tiny.cc/xxjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 03:21 PM (0lawO)

I'm not saying it's AI, but her left thumb looks monumentally weird.

Posted by: far cry at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (IEmXv)

252 This tactic, often called interpretive maximalism, takes an opponent’s words or actions and stretches them into a dire or existential threat, allowing the speaker to adopt a position of moral heroism while casting the opponent as an authoritarian danger.

Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 24, 2025 03:25 PM (RHGPo)
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Then they should have no problem with somebody else calling their propaganda "sedition", because it's the maximal interpretation of what they did.

Let's face it, the Dems did this because "Epstein files" was going to stop working for them pronto.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (krQz2)

253 All I know about courts martial is from The Caine Mutiny.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ)

254 Martin mull
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (bXbFr)

Never liked that guy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

255 but I dearly sympathize with people like her most days. Which is why I'll stop dooming, because with me there's no end to it and I'll just go off the deep end"

Same. Sometimes... ah well. OTOH, I've got a puppy who looks up to me...

Posted by: man at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (XuXeR)

256 Why bother? The it will get thrown out just like the rest. Bout done with trump.
Posted by: Bob at November 24, 2025 02:43 PM (YiqZD)
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Because you have a short attention span, or because you're part of an op?

Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (TN0g+)

257 Never liked that guy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

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You don't like anybody.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (DRSnL)

258 253 All I know about courts martial is from The Caine Mutiny.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ)

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Friedkin's adaptation of the play, The Caine Mutiny Court-Martial, his final film (that Guillermo del Toro was present on for insurance reasons, getting Friedkin's coffee, he says) is worthwhile as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (GBKbO)

259 Mull of Kintyre

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (77rzZ)

260
You don't like anybody.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (DRSnL)

NOT TRUE!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

261 Okay crew here's something to cleanse the taste of the black pill:

http://alturl.com/45i9o

Posted by: blaster at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (RoO7G)

262 Mulling suggests stroking one's chin in contemplation...which is stupid.

The military takes sedition seriously or it does not. They can't possibly let the troops think otherwise.

Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (Lp05i)

263 256 Because you have a short attention span, or because you're part of an op?

Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 03:31 PM (TN0g+)

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Trump isn't going to get his vote in 2028, I see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)

264 254 Martin mull
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (bXbFr)

Never liked that guy.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

He was good as Gene Parmesan in Arrested Development.

Bit part though it was.

Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 03:32 PM (UnA8+)

265 Martin mull
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (bXbFr)

Never liked that guy.

"Fernwood Tonight" and "History of White People in America" were both hilarious.

Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 03:32 PM (TN0g+)

266 Getting pretty sick of the "benefit of the doubt" types.

Never mind, GOP. It fits.

Posted by: connected and litigious at November 24, 2025 03:32 PM (s9EN2)

267 I like Sponge, and Jordan, but nobody else. Except Fen, And Mannix. but that’s !!

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (PCK5/)

268 The recording, which lasted longer than an hour and 15 minutes, included what Garza said was a "disgusting" rant alleged to be made by Bally about his coworkers: "F***ing Indians don’t know a f***ing thing," and "Like they couldn’t think for their f***ing selves," it said in part.

https://tinyurl.com/3bj54zz6
Posted by: Archimedes

The resulting consequence will be an Indian running Campbell's to 1) rectify the intemperate statements and 2) prove the statements correct

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (Dv3i1)

269 Okay crew here's something to cleanse the taste of the black pill:

Oh you said pill

/Boring

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (sKqQm)

270 267 I like Sponge, and Jordan, but nobody else. Except Fen, And Mannix. but that’s !!

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (PCK5/)

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I'm a misanthrope.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

271 as someone who often says "words have meanings" I have to applaud 246, particularly the second paragraph.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (Cjt/F)

272 Is this Gabby’s husband, or his twin?
Posted by: Bulg
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She never knows either when they take turns.

Posted by: wth at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (v0R5T)

273 [pi]I'm a misanthrope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

Is that Swahili for asshole?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)

274 Sponge likes me, as long as I keep the monthly payments up.

Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (77rzZ)

275 Fernwood Tonight was hilarious because of Fred Willard.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (Y1sOo)

276 273 [pi]I'm a misanthrope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO)

Is that Swahili for asshole?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)

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Swedish for "like and subscribe".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

277 270 267 I like Sponge, and Jordan, but nobody else. Except Fen, And Mannix. but that’s !!

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (PCK5/)

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I'm a misanthrope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (GBKbO

Pisces here, but that’s not important.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:35 PM (PCK5/)

278 One of my favorite memes is the faux He-Man PSA, "There are two kinds of people: avoid them both. Until next time, friends!"

Posted by: SciVo at November 24, 2025 03:35 PM (vQLHf)

279 Martin mull
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 24, 2025 03:29 PM (bXbFr)

Never liked that guy.

"Fernwood Tonight" and "History of White People in America" were both hilarious.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 03:32 PM (TN0g+)
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Sax and Violins was a great comedy album.

Posted by: Axeman at November 24, 2025 03:35 PM (krQz2)

280 Okay crew here's something to cleanse the taste of the black pill:

http://alturl.com/45i9o

Victoria Principal! Was their some weird episode of Dallas that I missed?

Posted by: t-bird at November 24, 2025 03:35 PM (Lp05i)

281 One of my favorite memes is the faux He-Man PSA, "There are two kinds of people: avoid them both. Until next time, friends!"
Posted by: SciVo at November 24, 2025 03:35 PM (vQLHf)

Skeletor memes > He-Man memes

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

282 I thought her name was Principle.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:36 PM (PCK5/)

283 Both brothers were astronauts

Posted by: anon2020 at November 24, 2025 03:36 PM (RqMDa)

284 189 >>I'm sure there are plenty of Leftist judges in the military who can preside over his court martial. Sorry, it's getting harder not to be black-pilled at this point.

I don't get that at all. Yea, we've had some setbacks in court decisions but they are almost always overturned. Illegals are being deported, the economy is turning around, wars are ending, and on and on.

We seem to be doing a lot of winning and the left is coming apart at the seams. When AOC is the new leader of your party that's when you get black pilled.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (viF8m)

I do appreciate your general optimism and positive framing of things that look may bad. And I generally try to see it your way. But it feels like we're still losing the long game and much of this is temporary, unless things get very violent. I still try to remain positive or at least patient.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 24, 2025 03:36 PM (8hxDK)

285 Some when elected grow in office, cf Fetterman.

Others when elected become warped. cf Mark Kelly, who now looks like an extra from The Hills Have Eyes. He really needs a colander for that mug.

Queeg was a good skipper but the war cracked him. He whipped the Caine into a warship which the junior officers did not like. Jose Ferrer's dressing down of them upon acquittal was beautiful.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2025 03:37 PM (+k/kq)

286 Fernwood Tonight was hilarious because of Fred Willard.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (Y1sOo)

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That show would literally have me rolling on the floor in tears of laughter as a kid.

I wonder how it holds up?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 03:37 PM (wcolm)

287 283 Both brothers were astronauts
Posted by: anon2020 at November 24, 2025 03:36 PM (RqMDa)

But only one was replaced.

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:37 PM (PCK5/)

288 >>@RapidResponse47
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48s
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>>@PressSec
: "Everybody knows that James Comey lied to Congress, it's as clear as day — and this judge took an unprecedented action... to shield James Comey and Letitia James from accountability... I know the Department of Justice will be appealing this in very short order."

Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 03:38 PM (viF8m)

289 Off topic:

Adorable little boy with his dad at a basketball game. I also found it refreshing that the kids father didn't know what to "go viral" meant:

https://tinyurl.com/5ay8ppdn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 03:38 PM (Nx5jP)

290 Both brothers were astronauts
Posted by: anon2020

These hoomins are a weird looking bunch.

Posted by: Aliens circling the earth at November 24, 2025 03:38 PM (v0R5T)

291 Swedish for "like and subscribe".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

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I have done both. So maybe you can move me up from "dislike" to "tolerate."

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 03:38 PM (DRSnL)

292
He has always creeped me out.

Posted by: fourseasons at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (3ek7K)

293 291 Swedish for "like and subscribe".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

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I have done both. So maybe you can move me up from "dislike" to "tolerate."

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 03:38 PM (DRSnL)

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Well, I can like you.

We structure comments the same way. This means that we are both smart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)

294 *pauses*

Is it me or has Mark Kelly morphed into Jared Loughner?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (+k/kq)

295 Misanthropus was one of the also-rans on the African savanna. Didn't get along with all the other hominids.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (gKWVE)

296 285 Bring back Aviation Greens in the Navy!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 24, 2025 03:40 PM (gm9Sb)

297 295 Misanthropus was one of the also-rans on the African savanna. Didn't get along with all the other hominids.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (gKWVE)

Hah hah!

Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:40 PM (PCK5/)

298 Is it me or has Mark Kelly morphed into Jared Loughner?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (+k/kq)

SHAPESHIFTER!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

299 Fred Willard's character in the film, Best in Show, is nothing more than him re-creating the Jerry character on Fernwood Tonight.

Hilarious.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:40 PM (Y1sOo)

300 Nood.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 03:40 PM (ExV1e)

301 Is it me or has Mark Kelly morphed into Jared Loughner?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2025 03:39 PM (+k/kq)

To be fair, I don't know what you look like.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 03:40 PM (dK+Kv)

302 286 Fernwood Tonight was hilarious because of Fred Willard.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (Y1sOo)

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That show would literally have me rolling on the floor in tears of laughter as a kid.

I wonder how it holds up? - ShainS.

I think it holds up pretty well. check out this scene with the great Jim Varney.

Fernwood Tonight was hilarious because of Fred Willard.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:34 PM (Y1sOo)

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That show would literally have me rolling on the floor in tears of laughter as a kid.

https://tinyurl.com/57sesvv8

Posted by: Paco at November 24, 2025 03:41 PM (mADJX)

303
I'd love to see the Department of War bring his twin brother back to active duty, flying old, retired aircraft out of Diego Garcia to test them under conditions common in the Far East. When he continues fundraising for the Ukrainian government while on active duty, court martial him too.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 24, 2025 03:41 PM (y9nCu)

304 Because you have a short attention span, or because you're part of an op?
Posted by: Crusader
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Same troll been posting on other threads under other nics to promote leftist crap. There is a common denominator regarding the troll today and it is easy to spot once you look.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:42 PM (WDjG6)

305 "F***ing Indians don’t know a f***ing thing," and "Like they couldn’t think for their f***ing selves," it said in part.

—

Can confirm.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 03:43 PM (HW6XE)

306 We seem to be doing a lot of winning and the left is coming apart at the seams. When AOC is the new leader of your party that's when you get black pilled.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (viF8m)

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Heard someone refer to that one Democrat candidate for Mayor in Nashville who hate your city as the "AOC of Tennessee.

Had a nice ring to it ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 03:43 PM (wcolm)

307 >>Bring back Aviation Greens in the Navy!

Those were re-authorized by SecNav when I was in. Never purchased a set, though.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 24, 2025 03:44 PM (Y1sOo)

308 I'm a misanthrope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Easy to be one but we all have a chance for salvation from Jesus. Not because we deserve it; because the Lord gives us Grace despite our crooked nature.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:44 PM (WDjG6)

309 Jose Ferrer's dressing down of them upon acquittal was beautiful. Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2025 03:37 PM (+k/kq)

That really was the best part of the play/movie. It occurs in the book, but (spoiler alert) the plot goes on well beyond the court-martial.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 24, 2025 03:44 PM (eStot)

310 308 Easy to be one but we all have a chance for salvation from Jesus. Not because we deserve it; because the Lord gives us Grace despite our crooked nature.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:44 PM (WDjG6)

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We went back to Charleston for a weekend visit, and I was able to attend mass at the cathedral downtown for the first time in 2 years.

I haven't felt closer to God since I left Rome.

Saw 5 baptisms, confirmations, and first communions as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at November 24, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

311 The emotionally loaded language like “upholding my oath,” “standing with our troops,” “disregard for the rule of law,” are designed to trigger
Posted by: SMOD
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Simply bad rhetoric because there is no truth to any of the assertions, only hyperbole. See Aristotle. Military manuals are not where I would go for wisdom.

Posted by: whig at November 24, 2025 03:47 PM (WDjG6)

312 I remember watching the video and they said disobey "illegal orders", not just "orders."

What legal impact does that have?

Probably renders it not a crime.
Posted by: EFG at November 24, 2025 02:37 PM (vuQMF)

Their statements disguised the obvious intention of having the rank and file military question every order they think/feel MAY be illegal according to each individual's political or moral beliefs. The military doesn't and cannot operate this way AND THESE SHITHEELS KNOW IT.

I don't know about now, but illegal orders were explicitly taught in basic training. Everyone knew what they were before ever being assigned to a unit.

There's no picking and choosing what one feels/thinks is lawful. They should already know.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 24, 2025 03:49 PM (g8Ew8)

313 The proper term is "Vichy Republicans".

Posted by: That dude at November 24, 2025 03:50 PM (Do64S)

314 So not only do we negotiate with terrorists we have many different groups of them on retainer...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 03:12 PM (sKqQm)

It is like PBS, if the USAID didn't give them money, they would have to have spent more otherwise productive time fundraising.

Posted by: Kindltot - from the land of 125% voter turnout at November 24, 2025 03:51 PM (rbvCR)

315 Color revolution, there is a manual and specific steps to take to create one.

Yup. Mike Benz and others have noted that these statements are along those lines, and that the head of the Army (Driscoll, but not Ed Driscoll) has been publicly cozying up to the Vindmans since this started. So you can already see the outlines of the intended color revolution.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 24, 2025 02:38 PM (2ocoG)

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In that case Driscoll needs to be relieved of his duties.

Posted by: Decaf at November 24, 2025 03:52 PM (unUNN)

316 I would have more reasonable hope in Mark Kelly's conviction than others who are not military/former military than civilians. I hope they do it.

Posted by: Baldy at November 24, 2025 03:57 PM (Src4d)

317 I like Sponge, and Jordan, but nobody else. Except Fen, And Mannix. but that’s !!
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 03:33 PM (PCK5/)

Back atcha, bud.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 24, 2025 03:59 PM (rbvCR)

318 Hopefully, Trump will help solidify the evidentiary side of things by posting an AI video of Kelley being executed on Truth Social--so far, plunging his malformed mushroom into the middle of jurisprudence is working out swimmingly.

Tish James is shaking in her boots. Comey as well.

We could salvage a midterm rout if someone would take the phone away from that fucking orangutan.

Posted by: Marleys Ghost at November 24, 2025 04:02 PM (uxXx0)

319 Mark Kelly looks like Gollum from Lord of the Rings, I wonder if he say's 'My precious' a lot.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 24, 2025 04:12 PM (qZdIZ)

320 Is it true that Mark Kelly is co-starring in the Young Frankenstein remake?

Posted by: Gunslinger at November 24, 2025 04:21 PM (R2gO3)

321 " Is it just possible that the Sedition Video was a PsyOp to draw Trump & Co into another partisan fight to distract them from dealing with the economy and affordability... Issues where the Republicans are vulnerable?"

Worked like a charm. But at least we got an all caps Tweet. Seems to be the MAGA red meat. Phrases like "Let's Go Brandon" and "Lock her up" got us shit electorally, but man, doe WE LOVE AN UNHINGED SHIT TALKER.

Mamdani's talking economy. Trump want to sue the BBC.

Posted by: Marleys Ghost at November 24, 2025 05:20 PM (uxXx0)

322 Gunslinger beat me to it:

"In looking at the attached photograph of Mark Kelly, had no idea that he is using Marty Feldman as a body double."

Posted by: TXMarko at November 24, 2025 06:27 PM (7flhA)

323 Good luck with that, the idiots can't even get Comey you really don't think they are going to get this moron? He only hires the best. Hahahaha.

Posted by: Bob at November 24, 2025 06:49 PM (YiqZD)

324 Elric gets it.

Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:21 PM (0Hdvv)

325 is about Crow, but it reads the same:

Green Beret Nap Time
@GBNT1952
16h
Since they seem intent upon continuously using doctrinal propaganda on the US populace, I think it’s important to highlight exactly what Crow and other Members of Congress are really doing.

Rep. Jason Crow’s post is a doctrinal example of narrative escalation within modern IO and psychological warfare doctrine.

Check out FM 3-05.301 / MISO.

By claiming that the President is threatening him with arrest and execution—a statement never actually made by Trump—Crow amplifies and inflates the narrative to its most extreme form in order to shape public perception.

This tactic, often called interpretive maximalism, takes an opponent’s words or actions and stretches them into a dire or existential threat, allowing the speaker to adopt a position of moral heroism while casting the opponent as an authoritarian danger.

When Crow doubles down on this framing, he creates what IO doctrine refers to as a self sealing narrative, where any denial or criticism becomes proof of the alleged threat.

Posted by: Kindltot
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Pelosi calls a version of this the "wrap around smear".
She gets moist thinking about it.

Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:25 PM (0Hdvv)

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