The Morning Rant: Measures...Counter-Measures...Counter-Counter-Measures...

People who think about the evolution of warfare have sleepless nights worrying about drones. Israel and Ukraine are ground-zero for drone warfare...and the pace of technological change is breathtaking! In a few short years we have gone from large drones flying high, armed with a single missile or a few cameras, to swarms of drones with small explosive devices that can overwhelm defenses and destroy multi-million dollar equipment for a few hundred dollars, and reconnaissance drones the size of a paperback that zip around the battlefield providing data in real time (Hello, Yahya Sinwar.)

Counter-measures arrived quickly, which is unsurprising, since the evolution of warfare occurs most quickly during war! But until very recently, those counter-measures were very expensive in comparison to the drones themselves, which are often just modified civilian drones...essentially toys for grownups. Using a $million missile to shoot down a $10,000 drone is a temporary answer, and one that is unsupportable in the long-term. And the smaller, cheaper drones are difficult because of their size, even if an army could field enough missiles.

But along comes Israel's arms industry with an obvious but technologically difficult response: Lasers!

Killing drones for cents: World's first 100 kW combat laser ready for deployment

Israel plans to deploy its first operational high-power laser air-defense system by the end of the year, marking a significant shift in how the country counters drones, rockets, and other aerial threats, the Defense Ministry said.
The system, known as Iron Beam, completed operational testing in September and will become the world’s first combat-ready laser interceptor.
The 100-kilowatt system is designed to destroy targets within seconds and at a fraction of the cost of traditional missile-based defenses.

Obviously this system hasn't seen significant combat, and until it is tested in many battles it will remain experimental. But the basic concept is sound, and while the devil is in the details, improvements in software speed and sensor technology will push this response down to the squad level very quickly.

Drones have the capacity to do tremendous damage to technologically superior forces. Imagine a swarm of drones launched from near our B-2, B-52, or F-35 bases. A few hundred thousand dollars worth of easily procured hardware could conceivably destroy many billions of dollars worth of our almost irreplaceable weaponry in a matter of moments. This isn't World War II, where factories could produce thousands of tanks or planes each year. It takes about 18 months to build an F-35. How many can we afford to lose?

While my personal preference is for a bunch of Midwestern goose hunters to be drafted into the armed forces for drone hunting duty, the future of laser defense is assured. Drones aren't going away, and must be considered an integral part of both offensive and defensive operations.

It won't be long before those airbases are surrounded by a multi-layered defense system that includes lasers to defend against drones. The question is: what comes next? Laser weapons for infantry, or tanks, or helicopters?

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:00 AM (Qd7dZ)

2 1st!

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)

3 MONKEY!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 04, 2025 11:01 AM (zjgNU)

4 Dammit, Rick, you always beat me to it!

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)

5 But along comes Israel's arms industry with an obvious but technologically difficult response: Lasers!

Killing drones for cents: World's first 100 kW combat laser ready for deployment

What about radio waves? The drone has to communicate with someone. Block frequencies.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:02 AM (Qd7dZ)

6 Dearborn, MI mosque already using fleet of drones to intimidate infidels who get too close:

https://tinyurl.com/yhxzmdv3

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

7
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Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (TiXPa)

8 Uh Oh... JOOOOOO Lasers! We're doomed

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (Bo9Yf)

9 Dearborn, MI mosque already using fleet of drones to intimidate infidels who get too close:

https://tinyurl.com/yhxzmdv3
Posted by: Lizzy

Override the comms and have all the drones land in Lake Michigan.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (Qd7dZ)

10 I don't understand how lasers can take out a swarm of 1000s of mini drones.

I would think you would need a weapon that can direct some sort of field that would fry their electronics. Sort of like what an EMP is supposed to accomplish.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (GvwDZ)

11 One of the challenges I can see for laser-based weapon platforms is ensuring that the system has power. But that would also be true of a ballistic system that relies on computational power for acquiring targets.

Drones just need enough power to reach their destination and deliver their payload.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (ESVrU)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

13 Morning.

Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (ioiMK)

14 Counter-drone measures were to be expected. Normal evolution of the battlefield.

Posted by: Candace Owens at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (g47mK)

15 Find the mother ship!
(Battle: Los Angeles)

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (GbwPZ)

16 off, cray-cray sock

Posted by: runner at December 04, 2025 11:05 AM (g47mK)

17 Dr Evil was ahead of his time.

Posted by: davidt at December 04, 2025 11:05 AM (Q+gd/)

18 Lasers! Sharks! Laser sharks!

Posted by: Captain Metalbeard at December 04, 2025 11:06 AM (TbWk/)

19 Dearborn, MI mosque already using fleet of drones to intimidate infidels who get too close:

https://tinyurl.com/yhxzmdv3
Posted by: Lizzy

Override the comms and have all the drones land in Lake Michigan.
Posted by: rickb223

Um...Dearborn's on the other side of the state from Lake Michigan. Lake St. Clair or Lake Erie.

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:06 AM (77rzZ)

20 This stinks

@karol 18m
The suspect arrested in the January 6th bomber case is Brian Cole, Jr. of Woodbridge, Virginia, born July 12, 1995.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2025 11:06 AM (mlg/3)

21 The system, known as Iron Beam, completed operational testing in September and will become the world’s first combat-ready laser interceptor.

If they aim it.

Posted by: Para-Gliding Go-Carts at December 04, 2025 11:06 AM (zfkPG)

22 Remember the video of the destruction caused by the bombing of the cities of the Third Reich? Now, from Ukraine . . .

Drone Footage Shows Devastated Ukrainian Town Nearly Encircled by Russian Forces

https://is.gd/LvonBo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at December 04, 2025 11:06 AM (L/fGl)

23 6 Dearborn, MI mosque already using fleet of drones to intimidate infidels who get too close:

https://tinyurl.com/yhxzmdv3
Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

Shotguns, people. Get them. Practice, practice, practice.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 04, 2025 11:06 AM (N39Ws)

24 I've been accused of being an inane drone.

Posted by: If The Foo Shits.... at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (oftw2)

25 There are some pretty snazzy electromagnetic anti-drone devices out there. They fry the electronics to disable the drone. GPS jamming also affects the drone's ability to navigate.

I understand shotgun type devices (at close range) are pretty effective too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (NwnyJ)

26 As far as understand it, (I'm not a weapons researcher), lasers greatly suffer from a power issue affecting portability.

Very unlikely to get the "Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt Range" anytime in the near future.

But, on a warship, very doable. I'm not sure how far down the power source can be scaled to put it on a helicopter though.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (zjgNU)

27 The use of blinding laser weapons as a method of warfare is prohibited by the Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons, which is part of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (CCW) adopted in 1995.
This protocol specifically bans the use of lasers designed to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision, recognizing the severe and irreversible harm such weapons inflict.
While the protocol does not prohibit the use of lasers for other purposes—such as range finding or targeting systems—it strictly forbids their use to blind combatants.
The prohibition reflects a global consensus that intentionally causing blindness in soldiers is a grave violation of the laws of war. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (fBha8)

28 Uh Oh... JOOOOOO Lasers! We're doomed
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (Bo9Yf)

Jews need an anthem that screams "don't fuck with us cuz we sone bad ass motherfuckers."

My proposal...

https://youtu.be/q08kDgsquOc

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (ioiMK)

29 I’m sure that testing battle field conditions can be done easily .

When talking war and drones I always mention Steven Pressfield’s 2011 book , The Profession. It takes place in 2032.

He was very prescient in describing the battlefield.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (KDPiq)

30 I suspect lasers cannot be a complete solution.

Deploy smoke that is opaque to the laser frequency being used and the laser would need incredible energy to still function (to burn off the smoke)

This would make them a terrible infantry weapon especially.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm)

31 I’m still waiting for sharks with lasers to be deployed in warfare.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:08 AM (kz78D)

32 @karol 18m
The suspect arrested in the January 6th bomber case is Brian Cole, Jr. of Woodbridge, Virginia, born July 12, 1995.

Hey, who broke into our personnel files?!

Posted by: The FBI at December 04, 2025 11:08 AM (7kply)

33 Iron Beam seems like fascinating tech, hope it works. For drone suppression, I'm more hopeful for things along the lines of the Epirus Leonidas HP Microwave system, which in a recent test disabled 49 drones at once.

The challenge militarily is to be able to knock out a drone swarm, not just single drones.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 04, 2025 11:08 AM (uWKK8)

34 If you can find the drones, you can stop them. There's no reason why each of those multi-million dollar missiles could not be replaced by a $100 drone similar to the one it's intended to stop. It's not even very hard, it's kind of an inversion of the problem of figuring out how get a swarm of drones to not collide with each other.

The problem is that you have to detect the incoming drones and that takes sensors and sensors tend to be both expensive and fragile.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 04, 2025 11:08 AM (2Insx)

35 The prohibition reflects a global consensus that intentionally causing blindness in soldiers is a grave violation of the laws of war. You may now continue.

Blowing people up = ok
Blinding people = not ok

Ok.

But honestly if blinding weapons are effective they'll be used in the next serious war. If they aren't then they won't.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (sKqQm)

36 Morning.

Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/
Posted by: Robert

Saw that on Fb. Women were commenting "if I had a body like that, I'd wear a two piece too!"

LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (Qd7dZ)

37 I don't understand how lasers can take out a swarm of 1000s of mini drones.

I would think you would need a weapon that can direct some sort of field that would fry their electronics. Sort of like what an EMP is supposed to accomplish.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (GvwDZ)

With good enough targeting, it shouldn't be an issue as long as it is "lasers" and not "A" laser. Mini drones aren't particularly tough.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (zjgNU)

38 A book I read a few years ago called something like Humanity 3.0 predicts the coming development of bee-sized killer drones that could be released in swarms to attack large numbers of people simultaneously.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (ZbPL4)

39 Deploy smoke that is opaque to the laser frequency being used and the laser would need incredible energy to still function (to burn off the smoke)

This would make them a terrible infantry weapon especially.
Posted by: 18-1p

True, but the mook deploying smoke becomes an immediate target. Arty for the win.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (mlg/3)

40 It won't be long before those airbases are surrounded by a multi-layered defense system that includes laser to defend against drones.

This will be the key for the next decade at least and it is what we are building towards. One system to take out high flyers, another to take out multiple flyers at low altitude. And something else to take out the very low flyers. ( think a drone with a grenade zooming up a street and cutting down an alley kind of low). And then something to down masses of drones.
These systems will include kinetic shooters, electronic warfare systems (jammers), EMP, and lasers.
The guy who makes a really good thing in any of these will be $$$!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (2WIwB)

41 The thought of thousands of drones converging on one's position is terrifying. Ya can't shoot 'em all down.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (g8Ew8)

42 Told you those Jews are sneaky.
- MTG

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (kz78D)

43 What about radio waves? The drone has to communicate with someone. Block frequencies.
Posted by: rickb223
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Fire and forget is something plus channel hopping can make it difficult. From my meager understanding,emp weapons are only semi directional and thus would take out friend and foe unless hardened against it.

Drones, like AI, are a disruptive technology change on par with firearms, radio, or missiles in combat. I don't think we or others have figured out all its implications yet but cheap throwaway weapons that can do mini kamikaze missions, quiet battlefield surveillance, serve as lurking weapons platforms is sort of like a swiss army knife of military usefulness.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:10 AM (WDjG6)

44 The challenge militarily is to be able to knock out a drone swarm, not just single drones.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 04, 2025 11:08 AM (uWKK

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Yep. Only a fraction of the drones need to penetrate the target's defenses to cause havoc and destruction.

It the same reason why the Iranians launch a barrage of missiles at Israel--they hope at least ONE will get through and blow up some Jews.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 04, 2025 11:10 AM (ESVrU)

45 Override the comms and have all the drones land in Lake Michigan.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (Qd7dZ)

Its battery would run out long before it made that trip. (Lake Michigan is the other side of the state.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 04, 2025 11:10 AM (zjgNU)

46 Saw that on Fb. Women were commenting "if I had a body like that, I'd wear a two piece too!"

LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (Qd7dZ)

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Why shouldn't she? It's not like she's wearing it to work.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 04, 2025 11:10 AM (DRSnL)

47 The system, known as Iron Beam...

Careful, Israel. That name may already be registered to The Paolo.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 04, 2025 11:12 AM (JCZqz)

48 41 The thought of thousands of drones converging on one's position is terrifying. Ya can't shoot 'em all down.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

Now apply that thought to urban warfare. Ukraine is sort of like the Russo Japanese war in 1905 or the Spanish Civil War. Proving ground for a lot of new technologies and revising older ones for more lethality. From all accounts, a very bloody mess instead of the relatively bloodless wars the US has engaged in since Vietnam.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:12 AM (WDjG6)

49 The left: you go grrrlll be your best sexual self , be a slut, and be proud!!

Also left: whaaaaaa? You wore a swimsuit to the beach? For shame!!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:12 AM (kz78D)

50 True, but the mook deploying smoke becomes an immediate target. Arty for the win.

The Russians are showing the importance of arty right now in Ukraine. And honestly its because arty is cheap.

This is a real problem for the US moving forward. In a scenario where you can kill just about anything you can see, using cheap but effective weapons makes sense.

Out current model of using the best and most expensive things money can buy isn't going to work out well in a real war.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:12 AM (sKqQm)

51 I am the opposite of an expert on drone tactics and technology but the off the top of my head silly idea that occurs to me is to use cheap drones to kill cheap drones…. Just program your drones to ram enemy drones; midair collisions would be effective.

Ramming speed, Hortator!!

Or maybe just outfit some sharks with high powered killer lasers….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 04, 2025 11:12 AM (/iXAp)

52 46 Saw that on Fb. Women were commenting "if I had a body like that, I'd wear a two piece too!"

LOL.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (Qd7dZ)

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Why shouldn't she? It's not like she's wearing it to work.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 04, 2025 11:10 AM (DRSnL)

Yeah, agree. Leftwing prudishness is hypocrisy at the highest level. If its’ from the Right side, well, we can be incredibly short sighted.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 11:13 AM (pDt9x)

53 Neal Stephenson's "The Diamond Age" took this technology to the next level with nanotech swarms constantly moving throughout the cities. Some were benign, protecting the residents. Others were much, much more dangerous, carrying microexplosives that could be triggered when inhaled and so forth.

There's a direct comparison to submarine warfare as nanodrones search and destroy other nanodrones in the smog....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 04, 2025 11:13 AM (ESVrU)

54 Yahoo/CNN: Trump said he’s looking into an Australian-style retirement program for America. Here’s how it works

https://tinyurl.com/bdsbpttw

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 04, 2025 11:13 AM (ioiMK)

55 My personal concern is hardening our energy infrastructure against drone attack. Oil refineries are a barely controlled firestorm under normal conditions. The lead time for large electric transformers is currently three years.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 04, 2025 11:13 AM (jc0TO)

56 6
‘ Dearborn, MI mosque already using fleet of drones to intimidate infidels who get too close:’

No legitimate church needs a pursuit drone.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 04, 2025 11:13 AM (jbnUc)

57 The left: Why are you right wingers always trying to restrict women's sexuality!

Also the left: How dare this whore wear a bathing suit at the beach!

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:14 AM (sKqQm)

58 It won't be long before those airbases are surrounded by a multi-layered defense system that includes lasers to defend against drones.

An obvious step is hardening the hangars in which the planes are housed on the ground. Many are currently open on two sides.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:14 AM (Riz8t)

59 But along comes Israel's arms industry with an obvious but technologically difficult response: Lasers!

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So you're saying that we could soon have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads?

/And of course all controlled by "The Jews!"

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 11:14 AM (pG0Ez)

60 I. AM. IRON BEAM!

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 04, 2025 11:14 AM (BpO1e)

61 Morning.

Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/
Posted by: Robert

Couldn't view the Xcrement post, so I did a search.

Damn.....she's a 1 x 10000.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

62 We need revetments at our Air Bases and Iron Dome plus some opec stuff for defense.

Go long on Concrete and rebar stocks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2025 11:14 AM (u82oZ)

63 The euthanization figure for Canada is chilling.

What a bunch of f***king ghouls.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (XV/Pl)

64 Drones may become tomorrow's artillery. Imagine ISO Containers full of drones instead of trucks dragging cannons and ammo.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Wg6v7)

65 ...Humanity 3.0 predicts the coming development of bee-sized killer drones...

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (ZbPL4)

Frank Herbert in Dune had something called a "hunter-seeker," which was pretty much a tiny little drone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Zv8bq)

66 Why shouldn't she? Because I can't.

Posted by: Jealous Bitch at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Q+gd/)

67 65 ...Humanity 3.0 predicts the coming development of bee-sized killer drones...

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (ZbPL4)

Frank Herbert in Dune had something called a "hunter-seeker," which was pretty much a tiny little drone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Zv8bq)

Neal Asher in his scifi books develops the concept, greatly.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (pDt9x)

68 Frank Herbert in Dune had something called a "hunter-seeker," which was pretty much a tiny little drone./i]

I remember the interaction of those with the force fields they had...pretty horrible way to go...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (sKqQm)

69 But along comes Israel's arms industry with an obvious but technologically difficult response: Lasers!

Killing drones for cents: World's first 100 kW combat laser ready for deployment

What about radio waves? The drone has to communicate with someone. Block frequencies.

Not if it's an autonomous drone, which I expect will become the norm.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (Riz8t)

70 Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/

Is she the one on the left or the right?

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (77rzZ)

71
Imagine a swarm of drones launched from near our B-2, B-52, or F-35 bases.

This is why foreigners should never be allowed to owm property in the U.S.

And as a corollary, only U.S. citizens with skin in the game, property ownership, should be allowed to vote.

What about renters, Bif? Yeah, i can see them voting too. How do we ID them from the damned invaders though?

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (QVmho)

72 The system, known as Iron Beam ...

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What, "Iron Maiden" wasn't available?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (pG0Ez)

73 And that bikini body is someone who had a baby not long ago.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:17 AM (kz78D)

74 What about radio waves? The drone has to communicate with someone. Block frequencies.
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EMP. We already have small EMP rounds. You don't want the big one.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 04, 2025 11:17 AM (Wg6v7)

75 This all goes back to jamming the Fritz X in the 40s.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 04, 2025 11:17 AM (XvL8K)

76 It the same reason why the Iranians launch a barrage of missiles at Israel--they hope at least ONE will get through and blow up some Jews.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Which is why of course that Iran cannot have nukes--that Obama and Biden and Western Europe even thought that was desirable was idiotic because it would mean Israel would have to nuke Iran first or face total destruction--something like a mere three nuclear weapons or so would destroy the heart of the Israeli state.

So Israel would have to launch preemptive nuclear strike if Iran had the bomb or risk a nuke or two getting through from a missile barrage.

I would imagine that both S. Korea and Japan are having similar thoughts about N. Korea and its nukes. Ditto Pakistan and India.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:17 AM (WDjG6)

77 70 Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/

Is she the one on the left or the right?
Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (77rzZ)
On the left. Really good looking.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 11:17 AM (pDt9x)

78 The Russians are showing the importance of arty right now in Ukraine. And honestly its because arty is cheap.

That would certainly explain the success of their invasion. Correction; their 4 day SMO.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:17 AM (Riz8t)

79 >Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/
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hmm
close shave

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (TiXPa)

80 Most drones can be taken out by employing a 1975 Quasar TV remote control. Tune to Channel 13.

Posted by: Crossing Morning Streams at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (oftw2)

81 79 >Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/
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hmm
close shave
Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (TiXPa)

Like yesterdays art offering.

Posted by: tubal at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (pDt9x)

82
Trump has a thing for blondes
somehow, Melania got thru

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (TiXPa)

83 Frank Herbert in Dune had something called a "hunter-seeker," which was pretty much a tiny little drone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Zv8bq)
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Yep. Interesting applications of warfare in Dune. Shield technology rendered a lot weapons obsolete. (Lasguns + Shields = Nuclear BOOM! -- for both parties)

Hunter-seeker drones were tools of assassinations among the Great Houses. Easily concealed, but they had a short range, so the operator had to be nearby.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (ESVrU)

84 Question- Does it really take about 18 months to build an F-35, or...

If presented with an exigent threat/need, could that timeframe be dramatically shortened, or more to the point, do we need something with all the bells and whistles, when something a lot simpler is just as good?

Russia was unprepared for what came as a result of the Ukraine incursion, but they seem to have rapidly cranked up their production of war materials when they were forced to.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (MZ+PY)

85 Drones may become tomorrow's artillery. Imagine ISO Containers full of drones instead of trucks dragging cannons and ammo.

Its an interesting question which will be cheaper in the future.

Artillery is a little harder to target, but it has cheap mobility and its fast.

Drones need a separate means of movement which has a price and they are slower but they can course correct in a way arty can't.

Right now artillery needs human management but that could be automated as well I suppose.

You could also imagine artillery fired drone gliders so you don't have to give them motors.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:19 AM (sKqQm)

86 Imagine a swarm of drones launched from near our B-2, B-52, or F-35 bases.

This is why foreigners should never be allowed to owm property in the U.S.

I'm not sure owning land is even necessary. I'll bet that as we speak, China has tractor trailers loaded with drones sitting in ports and other locations. All they need to do is hook them up to a truck and drive to a location near a base.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)

87 swarms of drones with small explosive devices that can overwhelm defenses

Iron Fly-Swatter

Posted by: t-bird at December 04, 2025 11:19 AM (7kply)

88
MUNKEY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2025 11:19 AM (y9nCu)

89 > Drones may become tomorrow's artillery. Imagine ISO Containers full of drones instead of trucks dragging cannons and ammo.
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This is what Ukraine basically did to attack Russia's strategic air force bombers a while back.

Drove unassuming looking trucks with custom made trailers that launched dozens of attack drones. Some of the attacks were 100s' of miles inside Russia.

Huge wake up call.... for us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 04, 2025 11:20 AM (NwnyJ)

90 The euthanization figure for Canada is chilling.

What a bunch of f***king ghouls.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 04, 2025 11:15 AM (XV/Pl)

But think of the cost savings!

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 04, 2025 11:20 AM (ioiMK)

91
What about radio waves? The drone has to communicate with someone. Block frequencies.

Not if it's an autonomous drone, which I expect will become the norm.
Posted by: Archimedes
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I think Russian drone technology now has something similar to our old anti tank missiles where a long fiber optic cable winds out for control. No radio signal either to track. And I would imagine that Ukraine probably will develop something similar if they do not have it already.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:20 AM (WDjG6)

92 Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/
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hmm
close shave

There are a brazillian things to like in that photo

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)

93 49 The left: you go grrrlll be your best sexual self , be a slut, and be proud!!

Also left: whaaaaaa? You wore a swimsuit to the beach? For shame!!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:12 AM (kz78D)

It's offensive to Muslims, after all.

Posted by: XTC at December 04, 2025 11:20 AM (UnA8+)

94 The question is: what comes next? Laser weapons for infantry, or tanks, or helicopters?

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Satellites. What could go wrong?

OUT: StarLink.
IN: SkyNet.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 11:20 AM (pG0Ez)

95 >>Russia was unprepared for what came as a result of the Ukraine incursion, but they seem to have rapidly cranked up their production of war materials when they were forced to.

They have a lot more functional resource extraction capacity than we do, at this point.

Could we ramp up again, the way we did in WWII?

...doubtful, imo.

Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2025 11:21 AM (DeNdk)

96 But enough about destruction. Let's talk construction!

LA's mayor celebrates the "major milestone" of APPROVING a single home to be rebuilt after the Palisades Fire (the property is a show home)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at December 04, 2025 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

97 What about renters, Bif? Yeah, i can see them voting too. How do we ID them from the damned invaders though?
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 04, 2025 11:16 AM (QVmho)

Speaking of which one of my tenants is a bigly big leftist. I know because I saw her Facebook posts. She was 1000% for the new bond measures “for the children” and “safety” that of course passed easily since voters are retarded.

So when I send her next years rent increase I’m going to specifically cite that new bond measure as part of the increase, along with general inflation. It will be about $275 a year in higher property taxes on the house. Guess who will pay it? Not me.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:21 AM (kz78D)

98 Who needs weapons when you can just subvert the entire country from the inside?

Posted by: The Dems at December 04, 2025 11:22 AM (zfkPG)

99 90 The euthanization figure for Canada is chilling.

What a bunch of f***king ghouls.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Another variant, like widespread abortion on demand, to Kill Whitey. Placing the blame for all the worlds ills and historical evils on whites and males has taken a toll on psyches in the West. Causes many to simply want out, by death if necessary.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:22 AM (WDjG6)

100 Trump has a thing for blondes
somehow, Melania got thru

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:18 AM (TiXPa)

Yeah...he really is slumming it with her.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:22 AM (Zv8bq)

101 Blockin' the monkey tonight~!

Brave browser users can block the image by right-clicking the image, select Block Element, Block. YFW.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (mlg/3)

102 The record for building a Liberty Ship in WW II was 11 days, start to finish.

Posted by: No Ladies Quarters, Though at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (oftw2)

103 The one on the right's no slouch, either.

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (77rzZ)

104 Michael Crichton had a novel called Prey where the antagonist was a malevolent swarm of nanobots…. Tiny tiny drones. Good book

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (YobFY)

105 Another point in all this so far the more techy savvy western powers have abided by a fairly "humane" use of drones and such.

One could imagine sending a group of explosive/incendiary drones into your enemy population centers - like you can do with bombers, but much more cheaply and it would be very hard to defend against - a few SAM sites would dissuade a mass bombing attack but not a mass droning

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)

106 I predict the equivalent of an EM fence around military bases. They would be focused skyward and be dense enough that any drone trying to fly through would be fried. It would be turned on only in times of incipient war, so as to avoid crashing civilian airplanes.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

107 102 The record for building a Liberty Ship in WW II was 11 days, start to finish.
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Then there were the Liberty Ship's that snapped in two in artic waters. Bet that was fun.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 04, 2025 11:24 AM (Wg6v7)

108 There was a Cut Jib podcast yesterday.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 04, 2025 11:24 AM (aMWf6)

109 Is this photo is suitable for someone serving as White House Press Secretary?

Now do that picture of Obama shirtless in the Hawaiian surf.

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

110 Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (Qd7dZ)

The Party of Fuck Anyone Anywhere Anytime and Abort the Consequences and Also Fuck Your Rules You Republican Prudes is suddenly offended by a woman in a bikini.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 11:25 AM (dQSrd)

111 Another point in all this so far the more techy savvy western powers have abided by a fairly "humane" use of drones and such.

One could imagine sending a group of explosive/incendiary drones into your enemy population centers - like you can do with bombers, but much more cheaply and it would be very hard to defend against - a few SAM sites would dissuade a mass bombing attack but not a mass droning
Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)
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Didn't the Japanese try to do this with incendiary balloons during WWII? A primitive proto-drone technology.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 04, 2025 11:25 AM (ESVrU)

112 So when I send her next years rent increase I’m going to specifically cite that new bond measure as part of the increase, along with general inflation. It will be about $275 a year in higher property taxes on the house. Guess who will pay it? Not me.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

And in time, she will be voting for a rent control ordinance. Insanity is repeating the same error over and over again figuring this time it will work out. Trial, error, corrective measures due to feedback is beyond what passes for leftist logic on policymaking.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)

113 Could we ramp up again, the way we did in WWII?

...doubtful, imo.
Posted by: garrett

Alas, no Studebaker trucks possible since 1966.

Posted by: The Nation Mourns at December 04, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)

114 The euthanization figure for Canada is chilling.

What a bunch of f***king ghouls.

If our medical system hasn't bled your bank account dry yet, you have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Canada Proves Hell Freezes Over at December 04, 2025 11:26 AM (zfkPG)

115 63 The euthanization figure for Canada is chilling.
What a bunch of f***king ghouls.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I didn't see anyone with a specific reference (?), so looked it up. Google summarizes:

In 2024, Canada reported a record number of medically assisted dying (MAID) deaths, with 16,499 individuals ending their lives through MAID, representing a 6.9% increase from the 15,343 deaths recorded in 2023.

This brings the total number of MAID deaths since the law's legalization in 2016 to over 76,000. In 2023, MAID accounted for 4.7% of all deaths in Canada, up from 4.1% in 2022,

Posted by: Moron Analyst at December 04, 2025 11:26 AM (JCZqz)

116 There was a Cut Jib podcast yesterday.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 04, 2025 11:24 AM (aMWf6)

There was a Drift Compatible podcast, like...*checks*...nearly two years ago.

Sonova...

Fucking BCochran had to go get himself a real job.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 04, 2025 11:26 AM (ioiMK)

117 Speaking of which one of my tenants is a bigly big leftist. I know because I saw her Facebook posts. She was 1000% for the new bond measures “for the children” and “safety” that of course passed easily since voters are retarded.

So when I send her next years rent increase I’m going to specifically cite that new bond measure as part of the increase, along with general inflation. It will be about $275 a year in higher property taxes on the house. Guess who will pay it? Not me.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:21 AM (kz78D)

I have never been so happy with my fellow citizens when my locality voted down a $200M+ bond to update the police and fire department's infrastructure... and completely rebuild downtown.

Enough voters saw through the stupidity and voted it down. It's still a sore subject locally. (November was about whether we vote in some council members who supported or opposed it. Only one supporter got in, I believe.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (zjgNU)

118 Didn't the Japanese try to do this with incendiary balloons during WWII? A primitive proto-drone technology

Yep.

Amusingly with our modern left west coast governors intentionally subverting fire prevention it would have likely worked too...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (sKqQm)

119 Please enjoy this brief AI-generated video

In theaters now....

Double Tap

https://tinyurl.com/3yp5nnm7

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (TiXPa)

120 Everyone looks to lasers, but there's also it's precursor, maser (microwave energy stimulation) that would work just as well. And cheaper too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (g8Ew8)

121 Michael Crichton had a novel called Prey where the antagonist was a malevolent swarm of nanobots…. Tiny tiny drones. Good book
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Crichton has 3 books H-wood will never make into flicks: Prey, Airframe, and State of Fear because they are like daggers to the heart of the post-modern left.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (mlg/3)

122 104 Michael Crichton had a novel called Prey where the antagonist was a malevolent swarm of nanobots…. Tiny tiny drones. Good book
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Did they adapt that into the movie with (Kiss) Gene Simmons as the bad guy? Seems from only seeing bits and bobs of that movie or its trailers it had a similar plot.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (WDjG6)

123 Alas, no Studebaker trucks possible since 1966.
Posted by: The Nation Mourns

No Singer M4s to collect afterwards. Sad.

Posted by: Military Moron at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (JCZqz)

124 I predict the next revolution for defense against drones and other weapons will be directed EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) devices that destroy the former's electronic circuitry.

[BTW, I fantasized decades ago about developing & using such a device to aim at and destroy the incessantly loud "music" & bass noises of other cars blasting their crap shit into my bleeding ears -- whether sitting at a stop light in traffic, or even now asshoes driving past our home causing the house & windows to rattle.]

* spit *

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (pG0Ez)

125 The Party of Fuck Anyone Anywhere Anytime and Abort the Consequences and Also Fuck Your Rules You Republican Prudes is suddenly offended by a woman in a bikini.

Posted by: ...

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (Qd7dZ)

126 Do you remember growing up in a world where the libs were supposedly all about humor and sex and fun and Republican Christians were the ones trying to imprison everyone in an arbitrary moral cage, and then like 20 years later suddenly everyone was imprisoned in a moral cage where you couldn't joke about anything, think anything, say anything, or have a woman look sexy or someone somewhere will be offended, and you were so busy being scared of Christians that barely existed and made few such impositions on anyone, you never saw the iron bars being constructed around you?

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (dQSrd)

127 They seem to be better at throwing metal with lasers than lasers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (aMWf6)

128 Canada is showing what the difference between being a tax payer and a tax burden is.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (Zz0t1)

129 The one on the right is hotter

Posted by: one hour sober at December 04, 2025 11:29 AM (Y1sOo)

130 Alas, no Studebaker trucks possible since 1966.
Posted by: The Nation Mourns

No Singer M4s to collect afterwards. Sad.
Posted by: Military Moron

No jeeps. 😢

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:29 AM (Qd7dZ)

131 Didn't the Japanese try to do this with incendiary balloons during WWII? A primitive proto-drone technology

Yep.

Amusingly with our modern left west coast governors intentionally subverting fire prevention it would have likely worked too...
Posted by: 18-1

One of those balloons got as far east as Michigan.

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)

132 Is this photo is suitable for someone serving as White House Press Secretary?

There are so many in the Trump administration, family, and even his lawyers for which the answer is yes, yes, a thousand times yes!!

Posted by: t-bird at December 04, 2025 11:29 AM (AhCY4)

133 not what I meant

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:29 AM (TiXPa)

134 Some news reports saying a suspect in the J6 pipe bombs has been arrested...no name released as of yet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

135 Is this photo is suitable for someone serving as White House Press Secretary?

I can't answer that question yet. I'll have to wait until she faces off with Kayleigh McEnany in the Kiddie Pool of Death and Jello But Mostly Jello.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (3nLb4)

136 IMHO, defense against EMP is easy. Ran trails of that at sea with EMPRESS II (IX-513). Details are OPSEC.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (u82oZ)

137

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:28 AM (Qd7dZ)

Fact.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (Zz0t1)

138 Didn't the Japanese try to do this with incendiary balloons during WWII? A primitive proto-drone technology

Yep.

Amusingly with our modern left west coast governors intentionally subverting fire prevention it would have likely worked too...
Posted by: 18-1
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The Germans had drones. The Fritz X. They actually sunk some ships with them, and damaged one of the greatest warhsips ever, the Warspite.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (XvL8K)

139 Morning.

Karoline Leavitt in a bikini.

https://instapundit.com/760348/
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 04, 2025 11:04 AM (ioiMK)

SNL saw her at the pool at Trump's club in Virginia.
Yup. The real deal. And...a total Alpha. The press corps doesn't stand a chance.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (2WIwB)

140 Thx CBD good post. Watch a channel about the Ukraine war with updates twice a day. The improvements and countermeasures are amazing. To stop drones from being jammed , fiber optic drones with shorter ranges but unjammable. Nets strung from telephone poles over roads to stop a strike. Amazing.
If I was in a helicopter assault I would not want to face a drone swarm.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (bfwj/)

141 Hi👋
I just got here expecting everyone to be talking about the arrest of the pipe bomber....
Is it already old news?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 04, 2025 11:31 AM (t/2Uw)

142 Didn't the Japanese try to do this with incendiary balloons during WWII? A primitive proto-drone technology

Salute!

Posted by: North Korean Shit Balloons at December 04, 2025 11:31 AM (AhCY4)

143 Did they adapt that into the movie with (Kiss) Gene Simmons as the bad guy? Seems from only seeing bits and bobs of that movie or its trailers it had a similar plot.
Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (WDjG6)

As far as I know someone bought the movie rights but it’s never been made

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 04, 2025 11:31 AM (YobFY)

144 One could imagine sending a group of explosive/incendiary drones into your enemy population centers - like you can do with bombers, but much more cheaply and it would be very hard to defend against - a few SAM sites would dissuade a mass bombing attack but not a mass droning

Posted by: 18-1

Drones carrying incendiary payloads scattering across a dense urban environment would cause havoc. Add in a few to tie up traffic and maybe target key pumping stations and such and you have a shockingly low-budget way to bring a city to its knees.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (OUMaO)

145 not what I meant

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:29 AM (TiXPa)

I was being facetious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (Zv8bq)

146 Could we ramp up again, the way we did in WWII?

...doubtful, imo.
Posted by: garrett

Any war like that would see us with a serious fifth column problem.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (2WIwB)

147 99
‘ Causes many to simply want out, by death if necessary’

I’m of the opinion that most people taking advantage of Canada’s death affirming care will be leftists.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (jbnUc)

148
I was being facetious.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (Zv8bq)

YOU!?!??

I'm not buying it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

149 Hi👋
I just got here expecting everyone to be talking about the arrest of the pipe bomber....
Is it already old news?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Suspect's "gayt" was mocked mercilessly in previous thread...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 04, 2025 11:32 AM (OUMaO)

150 Now all we need are miniaturized fusion reactors to power those big lasers!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (AsaWd)

151 Hi👋
I just got here expecting everyone to be talking about the arrest of the pipe bomber....
Is it already old news?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 04, 2025 11:31 AM (t/2Uw)

I'm just waiting for the "Richard Jewell" moment to happen.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

152 136 IMHO, defense against EMP is easy. Ran trails of that at sea with EMPRESS II (IX-513). Details are OPSEC.

Smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

153 I'm off my meds
carry on

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (TiXPa)

154 126 Do you remember growing up in a world where the libs were supposedly all about humor and sex and fun and Republican Christians were the ones trying to imprison everyone in an arbitrary moral cage, and then like 20 years later suddenly everyone was imprisoned in a moral cage where you couldn't joke about anything, think anything, say anything, or have a woman look sexy or someone somewhere will be offended, and you were so busy being scared of Christians that barely existed and made few such impositions on anyone, you never saw the iron bars being constructed around you?
Posted by: ...
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And former conservative bad boy PJ ORourke endorsing Killary over Trump?

People make bad decisions and errors all the time, I made one about the Bayeux Tapestry location in WWII in the last thread. The question is what do you do about it.

Leftists, because it has become their pseudo religion, and Islam because it is their religion, have both decided doubling down is preferable to admitting error because admitting error risks bringing the whole facade of their worldview made from tissues of lies down.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (WDjG6)

155 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 04, 2025 11:31 AM (t/2Uw)

Hello, Dear Lady. How are you?

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

156 Suspects gayt. Furry?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (aMWf6)

157 Yup. The real deal. And...a total Alpha. The press corps doesn't stand a chance.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 04, 2025 11:30 AM (2WIwB)

Her chest looks a bit burned. She should have worn sunscreen, and called me to apply it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:34 AM (Zv8bq)

158 >I just got here expecting everyone to be talking about the arrest of the pipe bomber....
Is it already old news?
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throw it on the 'nothing will happen' pile

Posted by: Don Black at December 04, 2025 11:34 AM (TiXPa)

159 I have never been so happy with my fellow citizens when my locality voted down a $200M+ bond to update the police and fire department's infrastructure... and completely rebuild downtown.

Enough voters saw through the stupidity and voted it down. It's still a sore subject locally. (November was about whether we vote in some council members who supported or opposed it. Only one supporter got in, I believe.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 04, 2025 11:27 AM (zjgNU)

Since I’ve lived in my current county/city not a single bond measure for schools, fire or police has failed. They all pass with at least 60% and sometimes over 70%.

But there was a bond measure to increase car registration. It was written specifically to allocate the money to construction projects, not to just throw the money into the general fund. It was construction projects desperately needed to alleviate traffic. I voted yes for this. It failed 2:1, lol. It’s like fuck people, you’re fine with hundreds of millions of dollars going into a black hole for “safety and education” but spending $25M to build a couple of bridges and widen some roads is not money well spent?

Ugggghhhh.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:34 AM (kz78D)

160
The thought of thousands of drones converging on one's position is terrifying. Ya can't shoot 'em all down.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 04, 2025 11:09 AM (g8Ew

Belt-fed 12 gauge machine guns pumping out bird shot from an armored battle-box with a shitload of ammo.

Even better is if you could switch to buckshot or slugs on the fly, like the Bushmaster chain guns for ground defense.

Short range, but weaponized awesome is a damned effective weapon.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 04, 2025 11:35 AM (y9nCu)

161 Drones carrying incendiary payloads scattering across a dense urban environment would cause havoc. Add in a few to tie up traffic and maybe target key pumping stations and such and you have a shockingly low-budget way to bring a city to its knees.

This is the way. There's no need to burn down cities anymore, you just need to be intelligent in taking out infrastructure. After that, the cities become unlivable.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 04, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

162 Brian Jerome Cole out of Virginia.

Posted by: torabora at December 04, 2025 11:35 AM (KtOUo)

163 Did they adapt that into the movie with (Kiss) Gene Simmons as the bad guy? Seems from only seeing bits and bobs of that movie or its trailers it had a similar plot.
Posted by: whig

No, that was Runaway an original screenplay by Chrichon.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 04, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3)

164 The Party of Fuck Anyone Anywhere Anytime and Abort the Consequences and Also Fuck Your Rules You Republican Prudes is suddenly offended by a woman in a bikini.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 11:25 AM (dQSrd)
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I mean not that you're wrong but the point of the Instapundit post was that the X account that was tsk tsk'ing KL about her bikini is based in Africa. Just more NGO/USAID money being used by foreign propagandists.

Posted by: ballistic at December 04, 2025 11:35 AM (3BwY8)

165 Leftists, because it has become their pseudo religion, and Islam because it is their religion, have both decided doubling down is preferable to admitting error because admitting error risks bringing the whole facade of their worldview made from tissues of lies down.
Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:33 AM (WDjG6)

Do leftards refuse to admit error because it's their religion, or is it their religion because they refuse to admit error?

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (dQSrd)

166 As far as I know someone bought the movie rights but it’s never been made
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Pulled it up, Runaway with Gene Simmons and Tom Selleck is the movie and directed by, ta da, Michael Crichton himself. I guess Crichton stole from himself to make the film.

Posted by: whig at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)

167 Hmmm.. a convergence of ultra high-tech, de-centralized war machines, accelerated counter measures for those same war machines, electronic counter-counter measures to counter those counter measures...

... and the dumbest AI ever created that will simply delete any problem that conflicts with is programmed directives.

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Croaker at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (+BcZI)

168 Did Iran ever get the water back on?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (aMWf6)

169 Volunteer Wanted! You will be arrested as the "J6 Bomber" to get these people off our damned backs! Apply within. False names and identities only!

Posted by: The FBI at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (iFEms)

170 [O/T -- Send in forces to break her out of prison already, Mr. President!]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The SLEAZEBAG Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis, refuses to allow an elderly woman, Tina Peters, who was unfairly convicted of what the Democrats do, cheating on Elections, out of jail! She was convicted for trying to stop Democrats from stealing Colorado Votes in the Election. She was preserving Election Records, which she was obligated to do under Federal Law. She has now served more than one year in jail, and has eight years to go. On top of everything else, she is a cancer “survivor.” This lightweight Governor, who has allowed his State to go to hell (Tren de Aragua, anyone?), should be ashamed of himself. FREE TINA!

https://is.gd/Teovpr

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (vqP4Q)

171 Who's the lucky bastard who's married to Karoline?

Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

172 PKD's story "Second Variety" shows where it will all lead.

Posted by: GROK defender at December 04, 2025 11:37 AM (2Mccz)

173 Her chest looks a bit burned. She should have worn sunscreen, and called me to apply it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2025 11:34 AM (Zv8bq

That wouldn't have been sunscreen.

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 11:37 AM (dQSrd)

174 Didn't the Japanese try to do this with incendiary balloons during WWII? A primitive proto-drone technology

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Yes. Cruel and ineffective, they killed six Americans, five of them children. In the book Japan At War by Haruko Taya Cook and, Theodore F. Cook describes the terrible conditions Japanese school girls lived and worked in to build these cruel and ineffective weapons.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at December 04, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)

175 Do leftards refuse to admit error because it's their religion, or is it their religion because they refuse to admit error?

Posted by: ... at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (dQSrd)

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Yes.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 04, 2025 11:38 AM (vqP4Q)

176 No jeeps. 😢
Posted by: rickb223

Don't be too hasty...have you seen the new M1301? It's like a modern Jeep in many ways.

https://shorturl.at/2czCc

Posted by: Military Moron at December 04, 2025 11:38 AM (JCZqz)

177 Who's the lucky bastard who's married to Karoline?
Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

Isn't he substantially older than her?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 04, 2025 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

178 Could we ramp up again, the way we did in WWII?

...doubtful, imo.
Posted by: garrett

Any war like that would see us with a serious fifth column problem.
Posted by: Diogenes

Redneck Security Forces could handle that. I'm 63. I know I'm not going to"across the pond" but I can cut fences and settle shit here.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2025 11:38 AM (Qd7dZ)

179 Who's the lucky bastard who's married to Karoline?
Posted by: Bulg at December 04, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

A 60 year old dude.
Seriously.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 04, 2025 11:38 AM (kz78D)

180 Ah, the Full Moon.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 04, 2025 11:39 AM (NFX2v)

181 Drones carrying incendiary payloads scattering across a dense urban environment would cause havoc. Add in a few to tie up traffic and maybe target key pumping stations and such and you have a shockingly low-budget way to bring a city to its knees.
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Modern version of the Bat Bombs we developed in WWII.

Posted by: ballistic at December 04, 2025 11:39 AM (3BwY8)

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