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MGM Resorts & Panera Bread Learn that Slashing Headcount, Reducing Quality, and Gouging Customers Is Not a Viable Long-Term Strategy
A corporation can target its loyal customers for revenue mining and temporarily increase its profits.
It can also slash employee headcount and customer service, thereby reducing labor expense to produce a short-term increase in profits. It can even reduce its product size and cheapen the product’s quality to reduce cost of goods sold, also giving a short-term boost to gross profit. But in every case, these actions tell customers that rather than being valued, the corporation sees customers as marks to be exploited. A great many customers may get hoodwinked once, providing the short-term profit boost that was being sought, but then never come back, thus destroying the company’s long-term prospects. A downward spiral of alienated customers, declining revenue, deteriorating facilities, and degraded reputation ensues. There ought to be a business school case study about this phenomenon. The only trouble is that this strategy is what’s being learned at elite business schools. Maybe a business school could do a case study on just how toxic elite business school graduates are to corporations. MGM Resorts International and Panera Bread are both reeling from employing the destructive strategy I just laid out. To their credit, the CEOs of both companies are acknowledging just how damaging that strategy was. To their discredit, these CEOs are learning on the job after being part of the brain trust that implemented these offensive practices. First, Panera: “Panera lost diners by cutting portions and staff; It’s reversing course to win them back” [CNBC – 11/18/2025] Predictably, Panera executives did the deceptive gimmick of quietly shrinking portions and reducing the quality of its food while increasing prices.When Panera Bread began shrinking its sandwiches and skimping on salads, it started shedding customers. Now, to win them back, the chain plans to reinvest in the business and undo many of those same cost-cutting measures, it said Tuesday. Once the No. 1 fast-casual brand in the U.S., Panera has dipped to No. 3, ceding the top spots to Chipotle Mexican Grill and Panda Express. Last year, its sales fell 5% to $6.1 billion, according to Technomic estimates. For years, the chain’s traffic has been shrinking, according to CEO Paul Carbone.Panera didn’t just reduce portion sizes and the quality of its food, Panera also reduced staffing.
Phase one of Panera’s plan is to improve the quality of its food, reversing cost-cutting measures imposed in the face of high inflation, according to Carbone. “We squeezed food costs. We squeezed labor,” he said. Some of those changes happened while Carbone was Chief Financial Officer. He now calls himself a “reformed CFO” — albeit one who still listens to earnings conference calls. “It’s really about death by a thousand paper cuts, it truly is,” Carbone said about the chain’s downturn.This next statement from CEO Carbone is a concise indictment of the practices that so many corporations have embraced since they allowed mercenary executives with no long-term focus to destroy their companies in pursuit of one good quarterly report:
“In some instances, we shrunk portions, so guests would walk into our cafe to buy a sandwich that has gone up significantly in price, with lower-quality ingredients, in a smaller size,” Carbone said.He also realizes now that staffing actually matters:
To improve the customer experience, Panera is planning to invest more into labor. Like many restaurants, Panera in recent years scheduled fewer workers and relied more on the self-order kiosks it pioneered in the industry. That approach saved money, but customers often walked into a cafe and couldn’t find an employee in sight, according to Carbone.Panera saved money but loyal customers were lost. Who could have ever predicted that? MGM Resorts International burned itself badly following that same template of gouging customers and cutting service.
MGM Resorts President and CEO Bill Hornbuckle had a simple message for his company this week after extortionate prices have kept people away from his hotels in Las Vegas: “Shame on us.” In an earnings call Wednesday, Hornbuckle said the company has “price-corrected” its resorts following a summer of backlash over steep charges, including the “infamous” $26 bottle of Fiji water at the Aria hotel.Those of us who consider ourselves “business smart” often mock the Congressional Budget Office for assuming that a tax increase will result in a dollar-for-dollar percentage increase in Treasury revenue, because Congress doesn’t understand that trying to take more money out of a person’s pocket will result in that person engaging in tax avoidance behaviors. Yet somehow the highly credentialed business wizards at corporations such as MGM similarly assume that increasing the price of a bottle of water to $26 will simply result in a gusher of revenue, rather than grasping that it repulses customers, causing them to avoid the product and to never return to an MGM property.
He also mentioned the $12 Starbucks coffee at Excalibur as an example of how the company hadn’t been attentive to customer needs.
“We should have been more sensitive to the overall experience at a place like Excalibur,” he said in the call, according to KLAS. “You can't have a $29 room and a $12 coffee. We lost control of the narrative over the summer,” Hornbuckle continued. “I think we would all agree to that in hindsight.”Who lost control, Mr. Hornbuckle? Who was the CEO in charge of controlling the narrative?
Jonathan Halkyard, MGM’s Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, said Wednesday that the company reviewed what customers are actually willing to pay for certain goods and services, and have since implemented about 90 percent of those adjustments.While gouging customers, MGM was also gutting staff and eliminating customer service: “Major corporation [MGM Resorts International] cuts concierge, staff at six Las Vegas Strip properties” [Las Vegas Review Journal – 4/26/2025] To further
One thing I have noticed is that with the corporatization of the casino, the economics and the way they are run have changed a lot. When it was mob-run, it was more off the cuff. The MBAs and data crunchers at the corporate casino have installed Disneyland pricing into their models. In economic terms, it is “first degree, second degree, third degree, fourth degree” price discrimination, and it might even go to the seventh degree. They don’t need you to gamble to make money off of you. They make money if you show up.Unfortunately, once a customer has been exposed to endless fees and revenue mining, he is likely to simply never show up again. It’s a good thing that the chastened CEOs of MGM and Panera are confessing their mistreatment of customers. I wish them well in their efforts to reform their practices and win back customers. Unfortunately, it’s much easier to chase a customer away than to ever win him back. I also hope that other corporate executives will learn from MGM and Panera and avoid having to give their own contrite apologies. Treating employees as a pestilence and customers as prey is a destructive business practice that should have never gained favor, and which needs to be repudiated by corporate America. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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OH TO BE FIRST
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:01 AM (iFTx/)
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Not 1st
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:02 AM (77rzZ)
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AND SECOND!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:02 AM (iFTx/)
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I like Panera. Noticed some changes, negative, in the last year or so. Glad to hear they are capable of learning.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:03 AM (PCK5/)
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Hah! Elric was not second!
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:03 AM (77rzZ)
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I do like their turkey chili.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 24, 2025 11:05 AM (XvL8K)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 24, 2025 11:05 AM (pdx2p)
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A lightbulb goes off in the MBA's head when they finally realize that these tactics are being used to increase margins, and the increased revenue is being used to fund executive bonuses and stock buybacks.
Cutting back on quality and staffing is the corporate version of debasing the currency.
Cutting back on quality and staffing is the corporate version of debasing the currency.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:05 AM (0U5gm)
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“In some instances, we shrunk portions, so guests would walk into our cafe to buy a sandwich that has gone up significantly in price, with lower-quality ingredients, in a smaller size,” Carbone said./i]
This is a direct impact of Bidenflation.
When the value of the dollar decreases by 50% you either have to double your prices, halve your costs, or meet somewhere in the middle.
And people generally react the most negatively to price increases so quality suffers.
But hey, at least we were able to give welfare to millions of newcomers so the money was well spent right?
This is a direct impact of Bidenflation.
When the value of the dollar decreases by 50% you either have to double your prices, halve your costs, or meet somewhere in the middle.
And people generally react the most negatively to price increases so quality suffers.
But hey, at least we were able to give welfare to millions of newcomers so the money was well spent right?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:05 AM (sKqQm)
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Starbuck’s though seems to have a Learning Disability.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:05 AM (PCK5/)
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I read the post 1st
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (GD2xa)
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“In some instances, we shrunk portions, so guests would walk into our cafe to buy a sandwich that has gone up significantly in price, with lower-quality ingredients, in a smaller size,” Carbone said.
I'm...gobsmacked that this didn't work. Just how stupid did Carbone have to be to think the result wouldn't be what has happened?
I only ever went to Panera to buy their whole large sourdough loaf, (UNSLICED you heathen!) I read recently that instead of making it in the store, thus filling it with mouthwatering aroma and making their customers hungry, they're going to produce the bread in a central location and truck it to individual stores.
It's genius, I tellz ya!
I'm...gobsmacked that this didn't work. Just how stupid did Carbone have to be to think the result wouldn't be what has happened?
I only ever went to Panera to buy their whole large sourdough loaf, (UNSLICED you heathen!) I read recently that instead of making it in the store, thus filling it with mouthwatering aroma and making their customers hungry, they're going to produce the bread in a central location and truck it to individual stores.
It's genius, I tellz ya!
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (Riz8t)
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"Please leave your name, number and a brief message. We will call you back at our convenience."
Posted by: Oglebay at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (2ap+5)
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Speaking of Disney what kind of idiot do you have to be to go there.
With their current prices you can afford to travel almost anywhere else.
And I get these supposed travel videos all the time for Disney...that I KNOW are just paid advertising..and even in those videos Disney looks shitty - you see bored, tired people in the background everywhere...
With their current prices you can afford to travel almost anywhere else.
And I get these supposed travel videos all the time for Disney...that I KNOW are just paid advertising..and even in those videos Disney looks shitty - you see bored, tired people in the background everywhere...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm)
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I love Panera but they are asking customers to pay a premium, and many were willing to do that for quality food and healthy portions, but when you get a bowl of broccoli cheader and it looks like it's being served in a thimble, customers are going to be PO'd and rightly so.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (XV/Pl)
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Our "business schools" are not turning out their best and brightest, are they?
Of course, by design.
Of course, by design.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (NwnyJ)
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I have the recipe for Panera's broccoli cheese soup. Just great.
Okay, in inflation news, the "no one / Dukes mayo" index of economic indicators is looking good. I bought some Dukes mayo for $3.50 recently. That is substantially less that the $5.00 price of a year ago, while being moderately higher than the $3.00 price 5 years ago.
Okay, in inflation news, the "no one / Dukes mayo" index of economic indicators is looking good. I bought some Dukes mayo for $3.50 recently. That is substantially less that the $5.00 price of a year ago, while being moderately higher than the $3.00 price 5 years ago.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (W7XSX)
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It is amazing nowadays getting some form of takeout for $20 or more per person that you know was half that much 5 years ago...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (sKqQm)
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Thanks Buck.
The only reason someone goes to a Panera (or McDonald's etc) is they know what they are going to get, how much it will cost, and how long it will take.
If you miss on one of those 3, that customer is moving on...
Let me tell you the story of how IHOP turned off this loyal customer for 50 years in just two visits.
The only reason someone goes to a Panera (or McDonald's etc) is they know what they are going to get, how much it will cost, and how long it will take.
If you miss on one of those 3, that customer is moving on...
Let me tell you the story of how IHOP turned off this loyal customer for 50 years in just two visits.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (9ipOP)
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Need to add Starbucks's CEO to this list.
Posted by: scruboak at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (bC/Gb)
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Maybe a business school could do a case study on just how toxic elite business school graduates are to corporations.
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Absolutely. Any corporation with MBAs on its board deserves bankruptcy. They are taught incompetence. (Of course, it's not the only graduate level schooling that does that.)
Also, I have to ask if it's even possible to get decent - not actually good, but just passible - customer service. Things were bad enough in the 80s. They didn't care then. Today it's appalling. I spent over 4 hours with Norton yesterday to fix my wife's laptop.
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Absolutely. Any corporation with MBAs on its board deserves bankruptcy. They are taught incompetence. (Of course, it's not the only graduate level schooling that does that.)
Also, I have to ask if it's even possible to get decent - not actually good, but just passible - customer service. Things were bad enough in the 80s. They didn't care then. Today it's appalling. I spent over 4 hours with Norton yesterday to fix my wife's laptop.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (s0JqF)
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Therapist says he received threats after calling ‘Trump derangement syndrome' real 'pathology'
Jonathan Alpert faced backlash following Wall Street Journal op-ed about patients obsessed with president
Jonathan Alpert faced backlash following Wall Street Journal op-ed about patients obsessed with president
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo)
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I’ve seen theories that the Las Vegas price gouging was done on purpose in order to keep away the riff raff.
Immediately post covid Las Vegas has to attract people back. So they shake her prices. Rooms were practically free. So it was inundated with trashy people who didn’t gamble, didn’t go to shows, didn’t eat at expensive restaurants. And worse it turned off the higher end clientele who did all that. It was lose lose.
So they self corrected and went the opposite direction. Expensive rooms and $20 water bottles to get ride of the trash.
Kinda makes sense. They just went a little too far the other way.
Immediately post covid Las Vegas has to attract people back. So they shake her prices. Rooms were practically free. So it was inundated with trashy people who didn’t gamble, didn’t go to shows, didn’t eat at expensive restaurants. And worse it turned off the higher end clientele who did all that. It was lose lose.
So they self corrected and went the opposite direction. Expensive rooms and $20 water bottles to get ride of the trash.
Kinda makes sense. They just went a little too far the other way.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (HW6XE)
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Getting rid of the buffetts in favor of food courts was also a mistake imo.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (KDPiq)
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From the article: "Unfortunately, once a customer has been exposed to endless fees and revenue mining, he is likely to simply never show up again."
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I've mentioned before, my last visit to Las Vegas will have been my *last* visit to Las Vegas unless I'm required to go there for some sort of team conference. Both the Strip and Downtown just seemed to scream "Tying your shoe laces will be charged and added to your bill." I felt like there was zero concern for providing a great experience and that the entire city was now and organized and legal fleecing operation.
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I've mentioned before, my last visit to Las Vegas will have been my *last* visit to Las Vegas unless I'm required to go there for some sort of team conference. Both the Strip and Downtown just seemed to scream "Tying your shoe laces will be charged and added to your bill." I felt like there was zero concern for providing a great experience and that the entire city was now and organized and legal fleecing operation.
Posted by: Crusader, Realtor at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (TN0g+)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)
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I think I was only ever in Panera once. Yuppie Subway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (npFr7)
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Predictably, Panera executives did the deceptive gimmick of quietly shrinking portions and reducing the quality of its food while increasing prices.
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And this is different from every other fast food joint... how?
Is McDonalds losing money?
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And this is different from every other fast food joint... how?
Is McDonalds losing money?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (lH8E4)
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You could add the video game industry to the asshole idiot FAFO list.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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Duke’s…mmmmmmmmm…
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (77rzZ)
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I stopped going to Panera because of their foolish adherence to the Mantra of the Sniffle Scare. The one time I did go back in '22, once the face diaper dictum was over, the staffer was rude and slow.
A shame. I recall hitting one of their stores in Denver nearly every morning in the summer and fall of 2001 for coffee and a asiago cheese bagel with cream cheese. And their tomato basil bread was great stuff.
A shame. I recall hitting one of their stores in Denver nearly every morning in the summer and fall of 2001 for coffee and a asiago cheese bagel with cream cheese. And their tomato basil bread was great stuff.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)
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Panera coffee. Better than Starbuck’s and you can have a refill. No brainer in comparison.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (PCK5/)
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Panera Bread was always crap, riding a wave of new-age pretentious bullshit. How they got to be #1 says more about the rest of the market than it does PB.
Their ads were so annoying I wanted to vomit. Some faggot in an effetely affluent accent would be like "Come try the new elevated avocado crostini with microgreens on toasted truffle focaccia with a side of fresh semen."
Their ads were so annoying I wanted to vomit. Some faggot in an effetely affluent accent would be like "Come try the new elevated avocado crostini with microgreens on toasted truffle focaccia with a side of fresh semen."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
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Word on the street is: Las Vegas is purposely moving to serve high end traffic rather than families.
Which means towns like Laughlin, NV are experiencing an increase in traffic because they're more affordable than Las Vegas.
Which means towns like Laughlin, NV are experiencing an increase in traffic because they're more affordable than Las Vegas.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (UJMvS)
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I used to wait tables and tend bar. I always thought corporate management in the restaurant business were idiots.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (GD2xa)
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Our "business schools" are not turning out their best and brightest, are they?
Of course, by design.
There is a fundamental mismatch between what's taught in MBA school and what's best for the company's long term health. The MBA cuts some cost, so the bottom line gets a short term sugar rush, followed by the crash, but by then, the MBA has pocketed a big bonus and moved on.
Of course, by design.
There is a fundamental mismatch between what's taught in MBA school and what's best for the company's long term health. The MBA cuts some cost, so the bottom line gets a short term sugar rush, followed by the crash, but by then, the MBA has pocketed a big bonus and moved on.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (Riz8t)
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It is amazing nowadays getting some form of takeout for $20 or more per person that you know was half that much 5 years ago...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM
I wonder if that could has anything to do with injecting an extra 5.1 TRILLION dollars into the economy in less than 4 years under the guise of reducing inflation?
Naw.....
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM
I wonder if that could has anything to do with injecting an extra 5.1 TRILLION dollars into the economy in less than 4 years under the guise of reducing inflation?
Naw.....
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (0N4FZ)
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Walk on home. Boy.
Posted by: Pantera at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (+Rs+1)
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Therapist says he received threats after calling ‘Trump derangement syndrome' real 'pathology'
Jonathan Alpert faced backlash following Wall Street Journal op-ed about patients obsessed with president
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo
And theTDS peoples don't see this as confirmation of the diagnosis
Jonathan Alpert faced backlash following Wall Street Journal op-ed about patients obsessed with president
Posted by: SMOD, I grew up in a middle-class constellation at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo
And theTDS peoples don't see this as confirmation of the diagnosis
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
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I have fond memories of the Buffet at The Mirage.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (W7XSX)
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I've mentioned before, my last visit to Las Vegas will have been my *last* visit to Las Vegas unless I'm required to go there for some sort of team conference. Both the Strip and Downtown just seemed to scream "Tying your shoe laces will be charged and added to your bill." I felt like there was zero concern for providing a great experience and that the entire city was now and organized and legal fleecing operation.
Posted by: Crusader, Realtor at November 24, 2025
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Tell us all about that.
Posted by: Crusader, Realtor at November 24, 2025
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Tell us all about that.
Posted by: New Orleans Tourists at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (wzUl9)
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I am not at all clear what "Disneyland pricing" means.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:11 AM (s0JqF)
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I love the passion that food evokes here at the HQ. I believe it all started with CBD, yes?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:11 AM (PCK5/)
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Their ads were so annoying I wanted to vomit. Some faggot in an effetely affluent accent would be like "Come try the new elevated avocado crostini with microgreens on toasted truffle focaccia with a side of fresh semen."
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
But that's Pete's favorite!
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
But that's Pete's favorite!
Posted by: Chasten Buttigieg at November 24, 2025 11:12 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 24, 2025 11:12 AM (pdx2p)
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“We should have been more sensitive to the overall experience at a place like Excalibur,” he said in the call, according to KLAS. “You can't have a $29 room and a $12 coffee. We lost control of the narrative over the summer,” Hornbuckle continued. “I think we would all agree to that in hindsight.”
Who lost control, Mr. Hornbuckle? Who was the CEO in charge of controlling the narrative?
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The Gosh Someone Should Do Something Gavin Newsom School of Business.
Who lost control, Mr. Hornbuckle? Who was the CEO in charge of controlling the narrative?
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The Gosh Someone Should Do Something Gavin Newsom School of Business.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:12 AM (9ipOP)
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Word on the street is: Las Vegas is purposely moving to serve high end traffic rather than families.
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Families are money losers. Mom and dad aren’t staying out until 2am gambling and drinking if they have kids with them.
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Families are money losers. Mom and dad aren’t staying out until 2am gambling and drinking if they have kids with them.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:12 AM (HW6XE)
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I have been going to Chipotle's. The bowl is good but it's $12+. And if you add Guacamole it's another $3.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (KDPiq)
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We should have been more sensitive to the overall experience at a place like Excalibur,” he said in the call, according to KLAS. “You can't have a $29 room and a $12 coffee. We lost control of the narrative over the summer,” Hornbuckle continued. “I think we would all agree to that in hindsight.”
tl:dr
Shorter version: "We needed to extract our heads from our asses.
tl:dr
Shorter version: "We needed to extract our heads from our asses.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (Riz8t)
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"Unfortunately, once a customer has been exposed to endless fees and revenue mining, he is likely to simply never show up again."
Actually, this is great news for the consumer. On the one hand, $25 minimum wages have forced fast-food companies to increasingly use kiosks to take orders, and (illegal?) aliens to deliver orders to numbered tents by customer tables. Once customers vote with their feet, these same companies are forced to go back to good old-fashioned customer service and good food to woo them back.
There's a very good reason that Automats never really caught on in America.
Actually, this is great news for the consumer. On the one hand, $25 minimum wages have forced fast-food companies to increasingly use kiosks to take orders, and (illegal?) aliens to deliver orders to numbered tents by customer tables. Once customers vote with their feet, these same companies are forced to go back to good old-fashioned customer service and good food to woo them back.
There's a very good reason that Automats never really caught on in America.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (0CU3H)
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Family Fun in Vegas. That doesn’t immediately spring to mind.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (PCK5/)
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Speaking of asshole idiots . . .
Liberals in California are reportedly lining up at Home Depot to buy a single 17-cent scraper, return it, then repeat the process in an effort to slow sales and protest the store’s cooperation with ICE operations.
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Yeah, boy, they're sticking it to the man!
Liberals in California are reportedly lining up at Home Depot to buy a single 17-cent scraper, return it, then repeat the process in an effort to slow sales and protest the store’s cooperation with ICE operations.
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Yeah, boy, they're sticking it to the man!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (L/fGl)
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They make mindnumbingly stupid decisions, cost the company millions if not billions, yet keep their jobs.
You want me to take you seriously? Fire the f*ckers that tried to destroy the company. Then we'll talk about me giving you money again.
You want me to take you seriously? Fire the f*ckers that tried to destroy the company. Then we'll talk about me giving you money again.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)
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@34
>>How they got to be #1 says more about the rest of the market than it does PB.
That got to where they are by serving premium fast food, in a nice environment with good service.
All three of those criteria have deteriorated appreciably and noticeably, hence why they are hemorrhaging customers, market share and revenue.
>>How they got to be #1 says more about the rest of the market than it does PB.
That got to where they are by serving premium fast food, in a nice environment with good service.
All three of those criteria have deteriorated appreciably and noticeably, hence why they are hemorrhaging customers, market share and revenue.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (XV/Pl)
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The last time I ate something from Panera Bread, I had the worst gas ever.
Won't be going back.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)
That's weird. I had the same problem when I went to a Phillips 66 and had the worst sandwich ever.
Won't be going back.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)
That's weird. I had the same problem when I went to a Phillips 66 and had the worst sandwich ever.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (lH8E4)
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Unfortunately, once a customer has been exposed to endless fees and revenue mining, he is likely to simply never show up again.
Video game companies: take note.
Video game companies: take note.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (LFbOl)
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Well that would be an interesting business study. Do customers come back? I'm atypical in a lot of ways so I cant go by own inclinations, once you piss me off to the point I drop you that's it, other than rare cases of outside forces like I'm with family or friends and they really want to go to your store or eatery. Then if I was pleasantly surprised that you went back to what I used to like, you might get back in my rotation.
But I suppose they might be able to find new customers.
But I suppose they might be able to find new customers.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (hhkIi)
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I am not at all clear what "Disneyland pricing" means.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:11 AM (s0JqF)
Something about fairies?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:11 AM (s0JqF)
Something about fairies?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (npFr7)
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The other problem with Panera is food quality. Yeah portions went down, but the food quality went from near freshly made taste to definitely just got out of the microwave/flash cooker level of slop.
Posted by: scruboak at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (bC/Gb)
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The only place worth anything in Vegas is Battlefield Vegas.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (+Rs+1)
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My local Indian casino hotel removed the coffee machines from the rooms.
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (6/eme)
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The business schools teach this cut-throat crap like it some kind of new innovation, a progressive evolution of business practices. In fact, gypping customers is as old as money, as are the consequences of it.
Posted by: Socratease at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (YgfoU)
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Guacamole - looks like baby poop, tastes like grass, and is about the most expensive side you can get...
and yet people buy it
and yet people buy it
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (sKqQm)
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Most interesting conversation I've ever heard? My late father, a few decades ago, was chatting with a dealer who'd been working in Las Vegas since the mob ran the place. Dealer asserted Las Vegas was actually more fun when the mob ran the town.
And, seeing how stuff the mob kept on the down low back when versus it being out in the street now seems to prove the point.
And, seeing how stuff the mob kept on the down low back when versus it being out in the street now seems to prove the point.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (UJMvS)
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Word on the street is: Las Vegas is purposely moving to serve high end traffic rather than families.
Which means towns like Laughlin, NV are experiencing an increase in traffic because they're more affordable than Las Vegas.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (UJMvS)
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Vegas does an intentional shift of its customers every decade or so. I've seen at least two pivots to more family-friendly vibes and then quickly away from families back to adult-oriented gambling and vice.
I never understood why anyone would want to bring their family there. There are much better family destinations with more for kids to do.
Which means towns like Laughlin, NV are experiencing an increase in traffic because they're more affordable than Las Vegas.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:10 AM (UJMvS)
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Vegas does an intentional shift of its customers every decade or so. I've seen at least two pivots to more family-friendly vibes and then quickly away from families back to adult-oriented gambling and vice.
I never understood why anyone would want to bring their family there. There are much better family destinations with more for kids to do.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (iFTx/)
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I only ever went to Panera to buy their whole large sourdough loaf, (UNSLICED you heathen!) I read recently that instead of making it in the store, thus filling it with mouthwatering aroma and making their customers hungry, they're going to produce the bread in a central location and truck it to individual stores.
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Is that a problem?
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Is that a problem?
Posted by: The Olive Garden at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (0RiMX)
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Panera Bread, like most ghetto food shops, is slop for the masses who cannot or are too lazy to cook.
Eat at home.
Eat at home.
Posted by: Chef Kool Moe Dee at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (1mUlr)
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Who lost control, Mr. Hornbuckle? Who was the CEO in charge of controlling the narrative?
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A sinister force did it.
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A sinister force did it.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (s0JqF)
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Mom and dad aren’t staying out until 2am gambling and drinking if they have kids with them.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Your daddy don't know
What your mama's gonna do tonight
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Your daddy don't know
What your mama's gonna do tonight
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (XvL8K)
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These MBA types are about to learn one more lesson: It is cheaper to keep an existing customer than it is to acquire a new one.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
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Family Fun in Vegas. That doesn’t immediately spring to mind.
Posted by: tubal
You've never heard of The Aristrocrats?
Posted by: tubal
You've never heard of The Aristrocrats?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (L/fGl)
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Family Fun in Vegas. That doesn’t immediately spring to mind.
Timmy's Big Adventure with Heroin Addict Sally and Her Stripper Poll doesn't grab you?
Timmy's Big Adventure with Heroin Addict Sally and Her Stripper Poll doesn't grab you?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (Riz8t)
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Las Vegas has been going more high end for a long time. The $5 all you can eat buffets were phased out and replaced with high end restaurants.
They figured out if you get a few high end customers you’ll make more profit than if you get a lot of low end customers.
They figured out if you get a few high end customers you’ll make more profit than if you get a lot of low end customers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (HW6XE)
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Are there any mid range chains that are good in the Horde estimation?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (PCK5/)
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Chik-fil-A and In-N-out have armies of employees, compared to other fast food place.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
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Selfish viewpoint, but I liked the Vegas where all the prices were propped up by gambling . . . because we didnt gamble much when we went.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (8AONa)
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I had a Maverick Jumbo Dog and didn't get gas!
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (6/eme)
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have been going to Chipotle's. The bowl is good but it's $12+. And if you add Guacamole it's another $3.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025
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Twenty-six bucks this last Saturday night for two omelets and a glass of milk at a local 24-hour diner here. And that $26 included a 3% upcharge for a credit card.
My grilled chicken omelet wasn't even that tasty. A shame, again, as this place has been a standby for many years. I'm not even sure their donuts are affordable any more.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025
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Twenty-six bucks this last Saturday night for two omelets and a glass of milk at a local 24-hour diner here. And that $26 included a 3% upcharge for a credit card.
My grilled chicken omelet wasn't even that tasty. A shame, again, as this place has been a standby for many years. I'm not even sure their donuts are affordable any more.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (wzUl9)
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Not only do these shortsighted policies positively impact margins at the eventual cost of negatively impacting revenues by chasing customers away, which will cause stock prices to fall, there's another knockoff effect.
Wall Street calculates price/earnings ratios to reflect both profitability and GROWTH.
Corporations can save their way to better profitability in the short run, but they'll see their growth ebb.
Slower growth means a lower P/E, so even if margins increase, the market will not value that profitability the same as it's coming at the cost of growth.
Wall Street calculates price/earnings ratios to reflect both profitability and GROWTH.
Corporations can save their way to better profitability in the short run, but they'll see their growth ebb.
Slower growth means a lower P/E, so even if margins increase, the market will not value that profitability the same as it's coming at the cost of growth.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (MNCvZ)
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Sometimes, get this, I don’t want to eat at home.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (PCK5/)
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Family Fun in Vegas. That doesn’t immediately spring to mind.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (PCK5/)
"Bring your child to the strip club" day was not a big success.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (PCK5/)
"Bring your child to the strip club" day was not a big success.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (npFr7)
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There's a very good reason that Automats never really caught on in America.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (0CU3H)
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Horn & Hardart didn't close until 1991.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (0CU3H)
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Horn & Hardart didn't close until 1991.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (9ipOP)
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The problem is corporations and Wall Street analysts aren't satisfied with past net profits and consider it a failure if there is not a year to year increase.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (KDPiq)
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Are there any mid range chains that are good in the Horde estimation?
I like Longhorn and Chilis though the last meal I got a Longhorn they ruined their classic parmesan crusted chicken...
I like Longhorn and Chilis though the last meal I got a Longhorn they ruined their classic parmesan crusted chicken...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (sKqQm)
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The damage is done to the casinos. Casinos are popping up all over the country. No longer are Vegas and Atlantic City the places to go to play with the one armed bandits or the roulette wheel. I have 2 casinos in two different towns near me. Why fly to Vegas when I can drive 15 minutes?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)
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There's an important lesson in understanding why massive staff cutting worked for Elon Musk, and failed for Panera and MGM: Elon Musk focused on the customer experience, Panera and MGM took that for granted and ignored it.
Cutting end point services will always appear to increase profits in the short term, but as you point out it cuts revenue even more by slashing the customer base. In Musk's situation with Twitter/X, the company was already actively slashing its customer base by hamhanded censorship of opinions they didn't like, so it was easy for Musk to increase performance and profits by simply slashing those parts of the workforce doing stupid and self-destructive things. (which ended up being almost 75% of existing employees)
Takeaway - Management has to intimately and respectfully understand the end customers experience, or else they are bound to fail. (also recall Cracker Barrel's recent walkback of their disastrous "update" plans)
Cutting end point services will always appear to increase profits in the short term, but as you point out it cuts revenue even more by slashing the customer base. In Musk's situation with Twitter/X, the company was already actively slashing its customer base by hamhanded censorship of opinions they didn't like, so it was easy for Musk to increase performance and profits by simply slashing those parts of the workforce doing stupid and self-destructive things. (which ended up being almost 75% of existing employees)
Takeaway - Management has to intimately and respectfully understand the end customers experience, or else they are bound to fail. (also recall Cracker Barrel's recent walkback of their disastrous "update" plans)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (uWKK8)
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That's weird. I had the same problem when I went to a Phillips 66 and had the worst sandwich ever.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (lH8E4)
So, Panera Bread = Gas Station Sushi?
That's weird. I had the same problem when I went to a Phillips 66 and had the worst sandwich ever.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (lH8E4)
So, Panera Bread = Gas Station Sushi?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)
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Guacamole - looks like baby poop, tastes like grass, and is about the most expensive side you can get...
and yet people buy it
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025
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Miss Linda loves it. My view of it is pretty much the same as yours.
and yet people buy it
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025
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Miss Linda loves it. My view of it is pretty much the same as yours.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (wzUl9)
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Panera Bread, like most ghetto food shops, is slop for the masses who cannot or are too lazy to cook.
Eat at home.
Posted by: Chef Kool Moe Dee at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (1mUlr)
What about the homeless.
Eat at home.
Posted by: Chef Kool Moe Dee at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (1mUlr)
What about the homeless.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (lH8E4)
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Speaking of Disney what kind of idiot do you have to be to go there.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm)
Last went there in the latter aughts. Having to endure attention whore/homos while waiting in line with our 6 yo, AGAIN, was the last straw.
Never again.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm)
Last went there in the latter aughts. Having to endure attention whore/homos while waiting in line with our 6 yo, AGAIN, was the last straw.
Never again.
Posted by: Doesn't Matter at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (JCLJi)
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The food is the same at all restaurant. It all comes from Sysco.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (HW6XE)
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All of this was just responding to the magic of Bidenomics. Or I should say Barky's fundamentally changing America. No one should have a good time in a socialistic society.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (g8Ew8)
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76 Chik-fil-A and In-N-out have armies of employees, compared to other fast food place.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
I recently went on a Scouting trip with my troop to Battleship Cove in MA. Just before our destination, we stopped in a Chick-fil-A to get some lunch. I was hesitant to go because of how the heirs went all woke, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food, the fantastic customer service, and how absolutely packed the restaurant and the parking lot was. They still do it right.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
I recently went on a Scouting trip with my troop to Battleship Cove in MA. Just before our destination, we stopped in a Chick-fil-A to get some lunch. I was hesitant to go because of how the heirs went all woke, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food, the fantastic customer service, and how absolutely packed the restaurant and the parking lot was. They still do it right.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (0CU3H)
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Panera Bread, like most ghetto food shops, is slop for the masses who cannot or are too lazy to cook.
Eat at home.
Posted by: Chef Kool Moe Dee
Add in tipping madness and we're seeing the early stages of the collapse of eating out. You'll get high end joints and taco trucks and everything else will be gone.
Eat at home.
Posted by: Chef Kool Moe Dee
Add in tipping madness and we're seeing the early stages of the collapse of eating out. You'll get high end joints and taco trucks and everything else will be gone.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (sKqQm)
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Knock, knock, knock
Bob Hope: "Who is it?"
Voice from outside "Do you have a woman in there?"
Bob Hope: "No"
So they opened the and threw one in.
Bob Hope: "Who is it?"
Voice from outside "Do you have a woman in there?"
Bob Hope: "No"
So they opened the and threw one in.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (W7XSX)
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I like Longhorn and Chilis though the last meal I got a Longhorn they ruined their classic parmesan crusted chicken...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (sKqQm)
Last order from Chili's, one person had the worst case of acid reflux he's ever had, almost prompting a call to 911 and the First Lady seemed, yet again, to get an ecoli infection.
Yeah, won't be going to Chili's anytime soon, either.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (sKqQm)
Last order from Chili's, one person had the worst case of acid reflux he's ever had, almost prompting a call to 911 and the First Lady seemed, yet again, to get an ecoli infection.
Yeah, won't be going to Chili's anytime soon, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
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Sysco Kid he was a friend of mine.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (PCK5/)
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They figured out if you get a few high end customers you’ll make more profit than if you get a lot of low end customers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (HW6XE)
And how's that working out?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (HW6XE)
And how's that working out?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (KDPiq)
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Re casino high end customers: one of that recent MLB Japanese player's agents ripped him off for $17 million dumped into Las Vegas casinos.
Now the player's lawyers are suing the casinos claiming they knew the money was stolen. They want it back.
Now the player's lawyers are suing the casinos claiming they knew the money was stolen. They want it back.
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (6/eme)
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"MGM claimed that it was eliminating valet and bell staff at the Excalibur ”to respond to industry trends to better serve guests.”
There was no industry trend where people wanted to carry their own fucking bags to the room. EVER
He should fired for even thinking that would fly.
Problem is, people have already changed their buying habits. Getting them back is two fold:
Changing habits
The customer thinks they got ripped off previously. Giving the customer something extra to make up a perceived shortfall is going to be tricky. The customer has to feel whole again. Good Luck.
There was no industry trend where people wanted to carry their own fucking bags to the room. EVER
He should fired for even thinking that would fly.
Problem is, people have already changed their buying habits. Getting them back is two fold:
Changing habits
The customer thinks they got ripped off previously. Giving the customer something extra to make up a perceived shortfall is going to be tricky. The customer has to feel whole again. Good Luck.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (JkCto)
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The only place worth anything in Vegas is Battlefield Vegas.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (+Rs+1)
The Museum of Nuclear Testing is worth a visit.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (+Rs+1)
The Museum of Nuclear Testing is worth a visit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (npFr7)
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I was a high roller once. Comped rooms. Unlimited credit.
Good times.
Good times.
Posted by: Stephan Paddok at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (+Rs+1)
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Are there any mid range chains that are good in the Horde estimation?
This is the problem with reading the Food Thread. One develops the cooking skills to satisfy more sophisticated tastes, and the same old slop simply won't do anymore.
This is the problem with reading the Food Thread. One develops the cooking skills to satisfy more sophisticated tastes, and the same old slop simply won't do anymore.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
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Biggest problem with Chik fil A is that they generally undercook their fries...as do most fast food resteraunts.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
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I like Longhorn and Chilis though the last meal I got a Longhorn they ruined their classic parmesan crusted chicken...
Posted by: 18-1
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That shrimp and peppers appetizer at Longhorn is the shit.
Posted by: 18-1
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That shrimp and peppers appetizer at Longhorn is the shit.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (XvL8K)
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‘ Our "business schools" are not turning out their best and brightest, are they?’
I’ll bet that they’re vibrant and diverse though.
‘ Our "business schools" are not turning out their best and brightest, are they?’
I’ll bet that they’re vibrant and diverse though.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (jbnUc)
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damage is done to the casinos. Casinos are popping up all over the country. No longer are Vegas and Atlantic City the places to go to play with the one armed bandits or the roulette wheel. I have 2 casinos in two different towns near me. Why fly to Vegas when I can drive 15 minutes?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (N39Ws)
And that’s why Las Vegas has shifted away from gambling. Restaurants, shows, nightclubs, spas, golf is what the draw is now. Gambling is almost an afterthought.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (N39Ws)
And that’s why Las Vegas has shifted away from gambling. Restaurants, shows, nightclubs, spas, golf is what the draw is now. Gambling is almost an afterthought.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (HW6XE)
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“MGM casino head admits company lost its way with summer prices and regrets ‘infamous’ $26 bottle of water” [The Independent – 10/30/2025]
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The MBAs began ruining Las Vegas (the city I grew up in) going back at least to the '80s.
Make La Cosa Nostra Great Again!
/only half-joking
“MGM casino head admits company lost its way with summer prices and regrets ‘infamous’ $26 bottle of water” [The Independent – 10/30/2025]
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The MBAs began ruining Las Vegas (the city I grew up in) going back at least to the '80s.
Make La Cosa Nostra Great Again!
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (kPeeO)
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Sysco or U.S. Foods.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (W7XSX)
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Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (xG4kz)
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Sometimes, get this, I don’t want to eat at home.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (PCK5/)
Whenever I want to eat, I get my musket, hunt a moose, skin it with my sharpened rock, gather wood and kindling, rub sticks together and cook it myself.
Anyone who goes to a grocery store to get food is a philistine.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (PCK5/)
Whenever I want to eat, I get my musket, hunt a moose, skin it with my sharpened rock, gather wood and kindling, rub sticks together and cook it myself.
Anyone who goes to a grocery store to get food is a philistine.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (lH8E4)
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I don't eat out. Hardly ever. Probably a decade ago I think my wife and I went to Panera for lunch. I was underwhelmed.
The restaurant business isn't what it used to be. I'll blame that on the clientele as much as the MBA's telling corporate what to do.
The restaurant business isn't what it used to be. I'll blame that on the clientele as much as the MBA's telling corporate what to do.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2025 11:21 AM (NwnyJ)
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So, Panera Bread = Gas Station Sushi?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
I'd say Panera was marginally healthier, except a now-closed location in my area had an incident where a cook turned out to have hepatitis, so it's really anyone's guess.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
I'd say Panera was marginally healthier, except a now-closed location in my area had an incident where a cook turned out to have hepatitis, so it's really anyone's guess.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 11:21 AM (OUMaO)
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Staying on the strip in a fancy hotel will be very expensive. Always was. Always will be. You can still snag some great mid-week deals, though, especially if you are a member of whatever gambling-card thingy they're offering.
But there's the "off strip" almost hidden society that's much much cheaper. I don't mean downtown. I mean 4-5 blocks off the main strip, in smaller, older, more basic hotels.
I'll bet their are some AirBNB deals too. That's all I use now. I won't stay in a hotel if I can avoid it.
But there's the "off strip" almost hidden society that's much much cheaper. I don't mean downtown. I mean 4-5 blocks off the main strip, in smaller, older, more basic hotels.
I'll bet their are some AirBNB deals too. That's all I use now. I won't stay in a hotel if I can avoid it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (iFTx/)
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Those Panera/MGM/etc CEO's should just watch a Hallmark-channel Christmas movie or love story.
Countless plots of:
1) big corporation squeezing everything for profit
2) son/daughter working inside said company
3) son/daughter meets opposite-sex member of group being squeezed
4) fall in love
5) son/daughter stands up to CEO father (always a male)
6) CEO has a change of heart
7) son/daughter gets to stay in love with love-interest and take over the company to drive company even higher because it's such a feel good company now.
/sarc.
Countless plots of:
1) big corporation squeezing everything for profit
2) son/daughter working inside said company
3) son/daughter meets opposite-sex member of group being squeezed
4) fall in love
5) son/daughter stands up to CEO father (always a male)
6) CEO has a change of heart
7) son/daughter gets to stay in love with love-interest and take over the company to drive company even higher because it's such a feel good company now.
/sarc.
Posted by: Scott_T at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (2waQ7)
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Biggest problem with Chik fil A is that they generally undercook their fries...as do most fast food resteraunts.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
*barges in*
*plants flag*
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
*barges in*
*plants flag*
Posted by: Five Guys at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)
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Chik-fil-A and In-N-out have armies of employees, compared to other fast food place.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
Buc-ee's has an army, too. I went on a poorly timed visited to the one in Spartanburg, and they were out in force to manage the utter insanity of the place. It was crazy. I actually stopped what I was doing and shot a little video of it, because I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Just a teeming throng of humanity.
On a summer weekend, it's like the American version of a bazaar in Morocco or something.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (rJ48h)
Buc-ee's has an army, too. I went on a poorly timed visited to the one in Spartanburg, and they were out in force to manage the utter insanity of the place. It was crazy. I actually stopped what I was doing and shot a little video of it, because I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Just a teeming throng of humanity.
On a summer weekend, it's like the American version of a bazaar in Morocco or something.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (BI5O2)
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I’ll bet that they’re vibrant and diverse though.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
No word on the profundity of their struggle sessions? That's where the action will be hottest next.
I’ll bet that they’re vibrant and diverse though.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
No word on the profundity of their struggle sessions? That's where the action will be hottest next.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (xG4kz)
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It is amazing nowadays getting some form of takeout for $20 or more per person that you know was half that much 5 years ago...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM
I wonder if that could has anything to do with injecting an extra 5.1 TRILLION dollars into the economy in less than 4 years under the guise of reducing inflation?
Naw.....
Posted by: Mister Scott
We exported our manufacturing inflation by sourcing from the third world, and got third world quality, and we hid our service labor inflation by hiring illegal aliens, and got record levels of welfare recipients. Now it is time to pay the piper.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM
I wonder if that could has anything to do with injecting an extra 5.1 TRILLION dollars into the economy in less than 4 years under the guise of reducing inflation?
Naw.....
Posted by: Mister Scott
We exported our manufacturing inflation by sourcing from the third world, and got third world quality, and we hid our service labor inflation by hiring illegal aliens, and got record levels of welfare recipients. Now it is time to pay the piper.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (0U5gm)
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The MBAs began ruining Las Vegas (the city I grew up in) going back at least to the '80s.
Make La Cosa Nostra Great Again!
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (kPeeO)
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Funny how the mob worked to keep things out of sight because they didn't want people to look to closely.
Now that Vegas is supposedly "legit" the people running the place no longer care.
Make La Cosa Nostra Great Again!
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (kPeeO)
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Funny how the mob worked to keep things out of sight because they didn't want people to look to closely.
Now that Vegas is supposedly "legit" the people running the place no longer care.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (UJMvS)
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Was reading an article by a right leaning pundit on the topic of "rising fascism". He pointed out that a couple of years ago he was censored on a number of forums for "COVID disinformation". After Trump's election that was reversed and all his videos were restored. He continued that things appear, across the board, to slowly be returning to normal.
And then he noted this is what the left/FNM seem to be calling "rising fascism" - returning to what was considered normal before 2020...
And then he noted this is what the left/FNM seem to be calling "rising fascism" - returning to what was considered normal before 2020...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (sKqQm)
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Guacamole - looks like baby poop, tastes like grass, and is about the most expensive side you can get...
and yet people buy it
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025
I love guacamole. Yeah, I'll buy it because it's good.
and yet people buy it
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025
I love guacamole. Yeah, I'll buy it because it's good.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (g8Ew8)
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Honestly, all we ever go to are some local restaurants that aren’t chains. Mostly family affairs at their cores. A couple of small regional chains too. Our favorite Mexican restaurant prolly has a few illegals in their staff.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (PCK5/)
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Chik-fil-A and In-N-out have armies of employees, compared to other fast food place.
Posted by: mr tmz
Hence, the lines.
Some CFO could learn something there.
Posted by: mr tmz
Hence, the lines.
Some CFO could learn something there.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (JkCto)
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Not for nothing, the 26 dollar bottle of water may be what they have to charge to make their inefficient business model profitable, seeing as you can pretty much get a bottle of water for a buck in bulk at costco or BJ's., who knows what their procurement model looks like.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (XV/Pl)
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Last order from Chili's, one person had the worst case of acid reflux he's ever had, almost prompting a call to 911 and the First Lady seemed, yet again, to get an ecoli infection.
Yeah, won't be going to Chili's anytime soon, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025
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In Birmingham, AL, the last night before I got home from IN, I went to a nearby Chili's. Disappointing service. The food was okay, but then they fully expected me to pay with a card at one of those little tableside portable kiosks. I waited them out, paid cash, and left a smaller tip than I normally would have.
Yeah, won't be going to Chili's anytime soon, either.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025
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In Birmingham, AL, the last night before I got home from IN, I went to a nearby Chili's. Disappointing service. The food was okay, but then they fully expected me to pay with a card at one of those little tableside portable kiosks. I waited them out, paid cash, and left a smaller tip than I normally would have.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (wzUl9)
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So, Panera Bread = Gas Station Sushi?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)
Your logic is impeccable.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)
Your logic is impeccable.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (lH8E4)
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Sloppy Slotkin v. Killer Joe
Elissa Slotkin ADMITS Democrats lied about President Trump issuing illegal orders to the military:
ABC: "Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?"
SLOTKIN: "To my knowledge I am not aware of things that are illegal."
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Joe Scarborough is very mad at Senator Slotkin for saying Trump hasn’t issued any illegal orders.
"Wrong answer!"
Joe then goes on to cite a hypothetical scenario of what Trump might do as evidence of illegal orders.
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Apparently Killer Joe wants to establish a Department of Precrime like in Minority Report.
Elissa Slotkin ADMITS Democrats lied about President Trump issuing illegal orders to the military:
ABC: "Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?"
SLOTKIN: "To my knowledge I am not aware of things that are illegal."
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Joe Scarborough is very mad at Senator Slotkin for saying Trump hasn’t issued any illegal orders.
"Wrong answer!"
Joe then goes on to cite a hypothetical scenario of what Trump might do as evidence of illegal orders.
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Apparently Killer Joe wants to establish a Department of Precrime like in Minority Report.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (77rzZ)
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MGM claimed that it was eliminating valet and bell staff ...
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Jobs that young people, especially men, would work for free as one who hustles can make six figures in tips alone -- and even more in finders' fees "running the hookers."
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Jobs that young people, especially men, would work for free as one who hustles can make six figures in tips alone -- and even more in finders' fees "running the hookers."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (kPeeO)
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On a summer weekend, it's like the American version of a bazaar in Morocco or something.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (BI5O2)
You can make up to $250k a year working at Buc-ees.
On a summer weekend, it's like the American version of a bazaar in Morocco or something.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (BI5O2)
You can make up to $250k a year working at Buc-ees.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)
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Just the thought of Las Vegas is off-putting to me. I've made flight connections there, and the terminal is annoying enough.
I did drive through it once. Again, yuck.
I did drive through it once. Again, yuck.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (w6EFb)
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This past Thursday, unshaven Congressman Eric Swalwell declared his candidacy for the governorship of California, despite being constitutionally disqualified to run. At the center of Swalwell’s disqualification is that to become California governor, the candidate’s true, primary, and permanent home must be in the state of California.
Posted by: SMOD at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (RHGPo)
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In my AO most of the new restaurants are something odd - Thai, Vegan, blah blah
I can't think of a new standard American restaurants
Its weird...
I can't think of a new standard American restaurants
Its weird...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (sKqQm)
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In what way is Slotkin 'Sloppy'?
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (6/eme)
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Eating out at even mid-grade or cheap restaurant has become an unaffordable luxury and I always regret it when I see my credit card bill. Cutting portions is suicidal at these prices.
Posted by: Ripley at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (GUOwU)
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Fast Food Confessional,
The Missus normally makes dinner for us at home, but when she has to work late, and I am on my own, there is this Burger King on the corner right down the street from my office...
It's just too easy to hit that drive thru!
Anyway, I accept that the Burgers are now the size of Sliderz. And I don't want to know anything more about it. lol
The Missus normally makes dinner for us at home, but when she has to work late, and I am on my own, there is this Burger King on the corner right down the street from my office...
It's just too easy to hit that drive thru!
Anyway, I accept that the Burgers are now the size of Sliderz. And I don't want to know anything more about it. lol
Posted by: Bad Andrew at November 24, 2025 11:24 AM (6qf1m)
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Going out to get food, whether fast casual or traditional fast food or an actual sit down full service restaurant…. All these experiences have gone down cousin Eddie’s shitter since covid (which ruined many things)…. Higher prices, smaller portions, bad service everywhere you look
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (/iXAp)
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Your logic is impeccable.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (lH8E4)
It really pays to be the king of 'if then else' in real life situations, you see.
Your logic is impeccable.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (lH8E4)
It really pays to be the king of 'if then else' in real life situations, you see.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)
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MGM Resorts & Panera Bread Learn that Slashing Headcount, Reducing Quality, and Gouging Customers Is Not a Viable Long-Term Strategy
Sounds exactly like what the auto industry has been doing since the Plandemic.
Layoff tens of thousands of experienced, quality American engineers, reduce quality by replacing those experienced, quality American engineers with outsourced cheap labor retards in India and Mexico and then jack up prices on gas/diesel vehicles and especially EVs.
Result: overpriced, low-quality products no one wants to -- or can afford to - buy and tens of thousands of former employees who not only are not regularly buying their products but also telling the public to stay away knowing the products are being developed and engineered by cheap labor retards.
Sounds exactly like what the auto industry has been doing since the Plandemic.
Layoff tens of thousands of experienced, quality American engineers, reduce quality by replacing those experienced, quality American engineers with outsourced cheap labor retards in India and Mexico and then jack up prices on gas/diesel vehicles and especially EVs.
Result: overpriced, low-quality products no one wants to -- or can afford to - buy and tens of thousands of former employees who not only are not regularly buying their products but also telling the public to stay away knowing the products are being developed and engineered by cheap labor retards.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (P5BPp)
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83 There's a very good reason that Automats never really caught on in America.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (0CU3H)
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Horn & Hardart didn't close until 1991.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (9ipOP)
I would almost say 'QED', but H&H was a truly innovative chain back in the day. IIRC, at one time they were the largest restaurant chain in the USA. I actually had a nice meal at the one on 42nd Street back when I was a wee lad.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (0CU3H)
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Horn & Hardart didn't close until 1991.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:17 AM (9ipOP)
I would almost say 'QED', but H&H was a truly innovative chain back in the day. IIRC, at one time they were the largest restaurant chain in the USA. I actually had a nice meal at the one on 42nd Street back when I was a wee lad.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (0CU3H)
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Honestly, all we ever go to are some local restaurants that aren’t chains. Mostly family affairs at their cores. A couple of small regional chains too. Our favorite Mexican restaurant prolly has a few illegals in their staff.
I'll bet they have no MBAs on their staff.
I'll bet they have no MBAs on their staff.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
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Mama Publius got some Panera gift cards from her financial manager. We need to use them up. Maybe I'll wait a bit to see how the revamp goes.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (w6EFb)
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IiRC the $26 water in question was at the pool and included tip and service charge shit. Which is like ok you’re essentially paying room service prices. Go to Walgreens but a 12 pack of water for $5 and problem solved.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (HW6XE)
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But seriously, one of my favorite things to do in this world, is to go into a convenience store, set a drink or pack of gum on the counter, and wait for the cashier to ask: "Did you have gas?"
To which I reply: "That's rather personal, don't you think?"
I've only ever had the opportunity to do that a few times in my life, but I continue to go into convenience stores, ever in the hope.
To which I reply: "That's rather personal, don't you think?"
I've only ever had the opportunity to do that a few times in my life, but I continue to go into convenience stores, ever in the hope.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (lH8E4)
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So food used to be cheap at restaurants is my take away from the conversation. Everything changed - why?? Merely greed?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (PCK5/)
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I don’t think I’ve been to Las Vegas since the MGM Grand burnt down.
Posted by: SMOD at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (RHGPo)
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145 Honestly, all we ever go to are some local restaurants that aren’t chains. Mostly family affairs at their cores. A couple of small regional chains too. Our favorite Mexican restaurant prolly has a few illegals in their staff.
I'll bet they have no MBAs on their staff.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
Snort. Not hardly.
I'll bet they have no MBAs on their staff.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
Snort. Not hardly.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (PCK5/)
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My aircraft was hit by a ground support vehicle at Las Vegas after boarding. The aircraft rocked. Ouch.
We deplaned until they could get a witch doctor to say we could fly again.
We deplaned until they could get a witch doctor to say we could fly again.
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:27 AM (6/eme)
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So food used to be cheap at restaurants is my take away from the conversation. Everything changed - why?? Merely greed?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (PCK5/)
Restaurants always had a thin margin. Chains make it up in volume.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:26 AM (PCK5/)
Restaurants always had a thin margin. Chains make it up in volume.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:27 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:27 AM (L/fGl)
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I'll bet they have no MBAs on their staff.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
Go to Waffle House, and you can see some Mighty Big Asses.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
Go to Waffle House, and you can see some Mighty Big Asses.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (npFr7)
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Uh oh. The city of Carmel, California has banned pickleball permanently.
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
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Speaking of bottled water and Las Vegas, are the Mexicans still selling bottled water on the pedestrian bridges? Those guys were lifesavers.
Posted by: mr tmz at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (rJ48h)
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Apparently Killer Joe wants to establish a Department of Precrime like in Minority Report.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (L/fGl)
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Moreso, we need a Department of Pre-Hate-Thought-Crime! Now, denounce yourself, Criminal H8R ..."
Apparently Killer Joe wants to establish a Department of Precrime like in Minority Report.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (L/fGl)
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Moreso, we need a Department of Pre-Hate-Thought-Crime! Now, denounce yourself, Criminal H8R ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (kPeeO)
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BurtTC lives in the past where you first pumped gas then paid for it.
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (6/eme)
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156 Uh oh. The city of Carmel, California has banned pickleball permanently.
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
They banned a freaking GAME??
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
They banned a freaking GAME??
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (PCK5/)
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@149
>> So food used to be cheap at restaurants is my take away from the conversation. Everything changed - why?? Merely greed?
Massive inflation coupled with various drive to hike minimum wages from anywhere to 15-30 dollars depending on the locale.
The fast food/diner industry is notorious for razor margins, anything that drives up costs could put the endeavor out of business.
A diner I frequented has recently gone out of business, to join the dozens of other diners I frequented in NJ.
I'll have to start making disco fries at home.
>> So food used to be cheap at restaurants is my take away from the conversation. Everything changed - why?? Merely greed?
Massive inflation coupled with various drive to hike minimum wages from anywhere to 15-30 dollars depending on the locale.
The fast food/diner industry is notorious for razor margins, anything that drives up costs could put the endeavor out of business.
A diner I frequented has recently gone out of business, to join the dozens of other diners I frequented in NJ.
I'll have to start making disco fries at home.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (XV/Pl)
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MGM Grand was the first casino in Vegas to start charging their customers to park.
But Harrah's was the first to really dick the customers--they were the ones to bring in 6:5 blackjack. Now it's everywhere. And now TRIPLE ZERO roulette--such a ripoff.
If Vegas wants people to come back, here are a few suggestions from a former visitor (dozens and dozens of visits over the years):
Get rid of Resort Fees--it's a total gouge
Get rid of Parking Fees
Lower your table minimums so that people don't need a thousand dollars to stand there and play craps for an hour.
Go back to 3:2 blackjack and single zero roulette
Don't charge me $700 for a concert ticket (plus associated 'fees')
Quit gouging on drink prices
Give the floormen/pit staff more discretion and empowerment in awarding comps
Of course, none of these things will ever happen, so I'm pretty sure my Vegas days are all behind me.
But Harrah's was the first to really dick the customers--they were the ones to bring in 6:5 blackjack. Now it's everywhere. And now TRIPLE ZERO roulette--such a ripoff.
If Vegas wants people to come back, here are a few suggestions from a former visitor (dozens and dozens of visits over the years):
Get rid of Resort Fees--it's a total gouge
Get rid of Parking Fees
Lower your table minimums so that people don't need a thousand dollars to stand there and play craps for an hour.
Go back to 3:2 blackjack and single zero roulette
Don't charge me $700 for a concert ticket (plus associated 'fees')
Quit gouging on drink prices
Give the floormen/pit staff more discretion and empowerment in awarding comps
Of course, none of these things will ever happen, so I'm pretty sure my Vegas days are all behind me.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (FQbbs)
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Funny how the mob worked to keep things out of sight because they didn't want people to look to closely.
Now that Vegas is supposedly "legit" the people running the place no longer care.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (UJMvS)
For example, street crime in the days the Mob ran the place was very rare. Bad for business, you know. Made Vegas a very safe place, and without the troubles of long trials and other hoo-ha.
First offense - broken legs. Second offense - shallow pit in the desert. Third offense - there were no third offenses.
Now that Vegas is supposedly "legit" the people running the place no longer care.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (UJMvS) at November 24, 2025 11:22 AM (UJMvS)
For example, street crime in the days the Mob ran the place was very rare. Bad for business, you know. Made Vegas a very safe place, and without the troubles of long trials and other hoo-ha.
First offense - broken legs. Second offense - shallow pit in the desert. Third offense - there were no third offenses.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (uWKK8)
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Yeah, won't be going to Chili's anytime soon, either.
Posted by: Sponge
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No problem, we can deliver.
Posted by: Sponge
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No problem, we can deliver.
Posted by: DoorDash at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (XeU6L)
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I had a lot of fun weekends in Las Vegas my younger days. Gambling was never part of it. It was clubs at night, pool and golf during the day and then great dinners in the evening.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (HW6XE)
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But seriously, one of my favorite things to do in this world, is to go into a convenience store, set a drink or pack of gum on the counter, and wait for the cashier to ask: "Did you have gas?"
To which I reply: "That's rather personal, don't you think?"
I've only ever had the opportunity to do that a few times in my life, but I continue to go into convenience stores, ever in the hope.
Posted by: BurtTC
I have a very similar story, but it was at university, and we were turning in a paper that day, and one young lady was asking how long mine was.
To which I reply: "That's rather personal, don't you think?"
I've only ever had the opportunity to do that a few times in my life, but I continue to go into convenience stores, ever in the hope.
Posted by: BurtTC
I have a very similar story, but it was at university, and we were turning in a paper that day, and one young lady was asking how long mine was.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (0U5gm)
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From r/TwinCities (actually a LOT of anti-Somali comments there!?)
They're coming for our Somalis. The Somali population has become an integral part of our community. It's estimated 90,000 live here, and I want to do something. I live in the Metro and feel helpless.
It's bad, but I'm most worried about Miller's rhetoric about denaturalization. The vast, vast majority of Somali people here are citizens, but this seems like just the first step in chipping away at their citizenship.
you aren't going to find nearly as much sympathy for that people group as you will for other minorities in MN.
Literally nobody is unaware of the fraud cases, y'all talk about them nonstop every single time something even tangentially related to any Somali person is discussed. It's just that we're able to distinguish between "the individuals who actually committed fraud" and "the entire Somali community." I'm sure you could too if you really tried.
My fellow left-wing friends don't want to talk about how prevalent sexism and the patriarchy are in Islam. I don't understand why we criticize Christianity for their patriarchal views but give Islam a pass.
They're coming for our Somalis. The Somali population has become an integral part of our community. It's estimated 90,000 live here, and I want to do something. I live in the Metro and feel helpless.
It's bad, but I'm most worried about Miller's rhetoric about denaturalization. The vast, vast majority of Somali people here are citizens, but this seems like just the first step in chipping away at their citizenship.
you aren't going to find nearly as much sympathy for that people group as you will for other minorities in MN.
Literally nobody is unaware of the fraud cases, y'all talk about them nonstop every single time something even tangentially related to any Somali person is discussed. It's just that we're able to distinguish between "the individuals who actually committed fraud" and "the entire Somali community." I'm sure you could too if you really tried.
My fellow left-wing friends don't want to talk about how prevalent sexism and the patriarchy are in Islam. I don't understand why we criticize Christianity for their patriarchal views but give Islam a pass.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
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In what way is Slotkin 'Sloppy'?
Posted by: torabora
She's a little loose with truth. And the facts. And the law.
Posted by: torabora
She's a little loose with truth. And the facts. And the law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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If you don't want a $26 bottle of water, don't buy it. It's that simple. I assume enough people paid that price or else it wouldn't have been sold at that price.
Same as the $600 bottles of vodka at high-end clubs. The mark-up is 1,000%. But there are usually lines out the door looking to get into these places.
I suspect Hornbuckle is really just blowing smoke to cover for lackluster earnings. The $26 bottle will now be $25.99.
Same as the $600 bottles of vodka at high-end clubs. The mark-up is 1,000%. But there are usually lines out the door looking to get into these places.
I suspect Hornbuckle is really just blowing smoke to cover for lackluster earnings. The $26 bottle will now be $25.99.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)
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People rip on Waffle House, but it's fine. And I've never seen anything untoward at mine. I think it's highly dependent on the locale.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (BI5O2)
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I have a very similar story, but it was at university, and we were turning in a paper that day, and one young lady was asking how long mine was.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (0U5gm)
"You'll need to at least buy me dinner first......"
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (0U5gm)
"You'll need to at least buy me dinner first......"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (Zz0t1)
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165 I had a lot of fun weekends in Las Vegas my younger days. Gambling was never part of it. It was clubs at night, pool and golf during the day and then great dinners in the evening.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (HW6XE)
So, no wife and kids then.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (HW6XE)
So, no wife and kids then.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (PCK5/)
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They banned a freaking GAME??
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (PCK5/)
They went too far but to be fair you would want it banned if you lived next to a busy pickleball court. It is very loud and like Chinese water torture.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (PCK5/)
They went too far but to be fair you would want it banned if you lived next to a busy pickleball court. It is very loud and like Chinese water torture.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (KDPiq)
174
Since COVID I've gone full distributivist. No chain restaurants at all. Only family run ones.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (s0JqF)
175
My fellow left-wing friends don't want to talk about how prevalent sexism and the patriarchy are in Islam. I don't understand why we criticize Christianity for their patriarchal views but give Islam a pass.
Soon to be banned.....
Soon to be banned.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)
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14 Speaking of Disney what kind of idiot do you have to be to go there.
With their current prices you can afford to travel almost anywhere else.
And I get these supposed travel videos all the time for Disney...that I KNOW are just paid advertising..and even in those videos Disney looks shitty - you see bored, tired people in the background everywhere...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm)
They're marketing to Social Media Influencers and Suspiciously Wealthy Perverts.
They've given up on all but the whales.
With their current prices you can afford to travel almost anywhere else.
And I get these supposed travel videos all the time for Disney...that I KNOW are just paid advertising..and even in those videos Disney looks shitty - you see bored, tired people in the background everywhere...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 24, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm)
They're marketing to Social Media Influencers and Suspiciously Wealthy Perverts.
They've given up on all but the whales.
Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (UnA8+)
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156 Uh oh. The city of Carmel, California has banned pickleball permanently.
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
How the fuck can they even do that? Now I want to buy one of those portable Pickleball nets and go set up on a basketball court until the cops show up to arrest me.
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
How the fuck can they even do that? Now I want to buy one of those portable Pickleball nets and go set up on a basketball court until the cops show up to arrest me.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (+Rs+1)
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Liberals in California are reportedly lining up at Home Depot to buy a single 17-cent scraper, return it, then repeat the process in an effort to slow sales and protest the store’s cooperation with ICE operations
This is how to stop that:
Home Depot Customer Service Agent: Here is your $0.17 back. Also, we are allowed to trespass anyone abusing our return privileges. Since we have your name and address (and probably your credit card number) you are hereby notified that you are subject to arrest if you step foot on any Home Depot property anywhere in the United States (and also on any other companies we own). Have a nice day!
This is how to stop that:
Home Depot Customer Service Agent: Here is your $0.17 back. Also, we are allowed to trespass anyone abusing our return privileges. Since we have your name and address (and probably your credit card number) you are hereby notified that you are subject to arrest if you step foot on any Home Depot property anywhere in the United States (and also on any other companies we own). Have a nice day!
Posted by: Chuck C at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (D0HYP)
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Literally nobody is unaware of the fraud cases, y'all talk about them nonstop every single time something even tangentially related to any Somali person is discussed. It's just that we're able to distinguish between "the individuals who actually committed fraud" and "the entire Somali community." I'm sure you could too if you really tried.
And why exactly would I do that? What have they, as a group, contributed to the country?
And why exactly would I do that? What have they, as a group, contributed to the country?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (Riz8t)
180
Eliminating concierge, valet and bell staff ... ”to respond to industry trends to better serve guests."
Weasel Words no one believes.
Did they bother to ask a guest themselves?
Weasel Words no one believes.
Did they bother to ask a guest themselves?
Posted by: mossomo at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (pky95)
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168 In what way is Slotkin 'Sloppy'?
Posted by: torabora
She's a little loose with truth. And the facts. And the law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
“Sloppy” is either a Verbal Tic, or an aspiring Meme for Trump.
Posted by: torabora
She's a little loose with truth. And the facts. And the law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
“Sloppy” is either a Verbal Tic, or an aspiring Meme for Trump.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (PCK5/)
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Twenty-six bucks this last Saturday night for two omelets and a glass of milk at a local 24-hour diner here. And that $26 included a 3% upcharge for a credit card.
My grilled chicken omelet wasn't even that tasty. A shame, again, as this place has been a standby for many years. I'm not even sure their donuts are affordable any more.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (wzUl9)
Comments at Youtube tell me that the increased price are entirely because Trump hasn't raised the federal minimum wage to $25/hour.
The decreased quality is just a bonus.
My grilled chicken omelet wasn't even that tasty. A shame, again, as this place has been a standby for many years. I'm not even sure their donuts are affordable any more.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 24, 2025 11:16 AM (wzUl9)
Comments at Youtube tell me that the increased price are entirely because Trump hasn't raised the federal minimum wage to $25/hour.
The decreased quality is just a bonus.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
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169 If you don't want a $26 bottle of water, don't buy it. It's that simple. I assume enough people paid that price or else it wouldn't have been sold at that price.
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Bro it’s my right to have cheap water at high end hotels. It’s in the constitution right next to the part where I am entitled to a home at 28 years old.
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Bro it’s my right to have cheap water at high end hotels. It’s in the constitution right next to the part where I am entitled to a home at 28 years old.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (HW6XE)
184
The reason for the pickleball ban was the noise.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)
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167 My fellow left-wing friends don't want to talk about how prevalent sexism and the patriarchy are in Islam. I don't understand why we criticize Christianity for their patriarchal views but give Islam a pass.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
Because they all want to use Islam as a weapon against Christianity, as a "Take THAT, Daddy!" because their father made them go to church instead of letting them dye their hair purple and LARP as a witch.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (JCZqz)
Because they all want to use Islam as a weapon against Christianity, as a "Take THAT, Daddy!" because their father made them go to church instead of letting them dye their hair purple and LARP as a witch.
Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (UnA8+)
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Weasel Words no one believes.
Did they bother to ask a guest themselves?
Posted by: mossomo at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (pky95)
Today is the day to put words in Weasel's mouth? Geez......
Did they bother to ask a guest themselves?
Posted by: mossomo at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (pky95)
Today is the day to put words in Weasel's mouth? Geez......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
187
BurtTC lives in the past where you first pumped gas then paid for it.
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (6/eme)
It's why I moved to a small town. In search of such stations.
Posted by: torabora at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (6/eme)
It's why I moved to a small town. In search of such stations.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:34 AM (G8jwy)
188
So food used to be cheap at restaurants is my take away from the conversation. Everything changed - why?? Merely greed?
Massive inflation coupled with various drive to hike minimum wages from anywhere to 15-30 dollars depending on the locale.
The fast food/diner industry is notorious for razor margins, anything that drives up costs could put the endeavor out of business.
A diner I frequented has recently gone out of business, to join the dozens of other diners I frequented in NJ.
I'll have to start making disco fries at home.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Maybe millions of illegal aliens being paid under the table had something to do with the cheap restaurants.
Massive inflation coupled with various drive to hike minimum wages from anywhere to 15-30 dollars depending on the locale.
The fast food/diner industry is notorious for razor margins, anything that drives up costs could put the endeavor out of business.
A diner I frequented has recently gone out of business, to join the dozens of other diners I frequented in NJ.
I'll have to start making disco fries at home.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
Maybe millions of illegal aliens being paid under the table had something to do with the cheap restaurants.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:34 AM (0U5gm)
189
My kids have Panera's on their college but told me what an awful value it was, and how they could never get food if they wanted b/c the lines were so long.
As for me, they are so allergy unfriendly vs other sandwich/salad sites, so I've kinda written them off. I guess if they bring employees back (b/c I do NOT rely on machines for my allergy orders), maybe I'll see what they can make. I mean, it's not hard to make a sandwich without dairy or nut components, but you have to want to...and underpaid and overworked staff don't want to, nor does a computer want to let you...
As for me, they are so allergy unfriendly vs other sandwich/salad sites, so I've kinda written them off. I guess if they bring employees back (b/c I do NOT rely on machines for my allergy orders), maybe I'll see what they can make. I mean, it's not hard to make a sandwich without dairy or nut components, but you have to want to...and underpaid and overworked staff don't want to, nor does a computer want to let you...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 24, 2025 11:34 AM (tOcjL)
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173 They banned a freaking GAME??
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (PCK5/)
They went too far but to be fair you would want it banned if you lived next to a busy pickleball court. It is very loud and like Chinese water torture.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (KDPiq)
Much grunting and farting.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:29 AM (PCK5/)
They went too far but to be fair you would want it banned if you lived next to a busy pickleball court. It is very loud and like Chinese water torture.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (KDPiq)
Much grunting and farting.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:34 AM (PCK5/)
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"The reason for the pickleball ban was the noise.
Posted by: Bulg "
Now do 5000 watt car stereos.
Posted by: Bulg "
Now do 5000 watt car stereos.
Posted by: fd at November 24, 2025 11:34 AM (vFG9F)
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I had a lot of fun weekends in Las Vegas my younger days. Gambling was never part of it. It was clubs at night, pool and golf during the day and then great dinners in the evening.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (HW6XE)
So, no wife and kids then.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (PCK5/)
Not back then, no.
Although some of those weekend were with my gf, now wife.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (HW6XE)
So, no wife and kids then.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:31 AM (PCK5/)
Not back then, no.
Although some of those weekend were with my gf, now wife.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (HW6XE)
193
The reason for the pickleball ban was the noise.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)
So use actual pickles instead of wiffle balls.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)
So use actual pickles instead of wiffle balls.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (npFr7)
194
Most restaurants break even on the food and the profits are from the bar.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (W7XSX)
195
I have a very similar story, but it was at university, and we were turning in a paper that day, and one young lady was asking how long mine was.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (0U5gm)
Hmmm, I bet it's at least statistically more likely you'll get laid in your situation than mine.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:30 AM (0U5gm)
Hmmm, I bet it's at least statistically more likely you'll get laid in your situation than mine.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (G8jwy)
196
179
And why exactly would I do that? What have they, as a group, contributed to the country?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (Riz8t)
Debt. Increase in fraud. Increase in crime.
And why exactly would I do that? What have they, as a group, contributed to the country?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:32 AM (Riz8t)
Debt. Increase in fraud. Increase in crime.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (N39Ws)
197
Add in tipping madness and we're seeing the early stages of the collapse of eating out. You'll get high end joints and taco trucks and everything else will be gone.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)
Taco trucks are starting to overcharge.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)
Taco trucks are starting to overcharge.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (ExV1e)
198
Uh oh. The city of Carmel, California has banned pickleball permanently.
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
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Doof could be a modern-day Paddle Rights Leader!
Who needs Rosa when we've got our own fighter, soon to be dubbed: "Pickleball Parks?"
I guess it won’t be getting any tourist dollars from Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at November 24, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)
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Doof could be a modern-day Paddle Rights Leader!
Who needs Rosa when we've got our own fighter, soon to be dubbed: "Pickleball Parks?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (5StDt)
199
Eliminating concierge, valet and bell staff ... ”to respond to industry trends to better serve guests."
Weasel Words no one believes.
Did they bother to ask a guest themselves?
That's the same as:
Them: "We'll only change your linens if asked, because we're green and s***".
Me: Don't you also save a buttload of money on hotel staff and hot water and utilities? How about you split that money with me?
Them:
Weasel Words no one believes.
Did they bother to ask a guest themselves?
That's the same as:
Them: "We'll only change your linens if asked, because we're green and s***".
Me: Don't you also save a buttload of money on hotel staff and hot water and utilities? How about you split that money with me?
Them:
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (Riz8t)
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My fellow left-wing friends don't want to talk about how prevalent sexism and the patriarchy are in Islam. I don't understand why we criticize Christianity for their patriarchal views but give Islam a pass.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison
That's a good start for a list of features of Islam that conflict with Western beliefs and practices. Do think some more to see if you can add to it.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison
That's a good start for a list of features of Islam that conflict with Western beliefs and practices. Do think some more to see if you can add to it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (xG4kz)
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If Vegas wants people to come back, here are a few suggestions from a former visitor (dozens and dozens of visits over the years):
Get rid of Resort Fees--it's a total gouge
Get rid of Parking Fees
Lower your table minimums so that people don't need a thousand dollars to stand there and play craps for an hour.
Go back to 3:2 blackjack and single zero roulette
Don't charge me $700 for a concert ticket (plus associated 'fees')
Quit gouging on drink prices
Give the floormen/pit staff more discretion and empowerment in awarding comps
Bring back the mob. They knew how to run resorts.
Get rid of Resort Fees--it's a total gouge
Get rid of Parking Fees
Lower your table minimums so that people don't need a thousand dollars to stand there and play craps for an hour.
Go back to 3:2 blackjack and single zero roulette
Don't charge me $700 for a concert ticket (plus associated 'fees')
Quit gouging on drink prices
Give the floormen/pit staff more discretion and empowerment in awarding comps
Bring back the mob. They knew how to run resorts.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (g8Ew8)
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194 Most restaurants break even on the food and the profits are from the bar.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (W7XSX)
Chik-Fil-A goes hmmmm.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (W7XSX)
Chik-Fil-A goes hmmmm.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (PCK5/)
203
Panera saved money but loyal customers were lost. Who could have ever predicted that?
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Which *can* - theoretically - be a viable model. If you cut costs by 10% and raise profits to 30% at the cost of a secular customer decline of 5%, you'll end up better off than if you had stayed the course. This is true *IF* you acknowledge that your growth era is over and you want to switch to revenue and profit maintenance and manage decline until the business winds down.
If you have notions of continued growth, it's suicide.
If your customer loss as a result of the changes is too large, it's suicide.
If your average ticket collapses because customers buy a quarter of what they used to at 50% more money, it's suicide.
Moving into "managed decline" mode is a tough pivot.
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Which *can* - theoretically - be a viable model. If you cut costs by 10% and raise profits to 30% at the cost of a secular customer decline of 5%, you'll end up better off than if you had stayed the course. This is true *IF* you acknowledge that your growth era is over and you want to switch to revenue and profit maintenance and manage decline until the business winds down.
If you have notions of continued growth, it's suicide.
If your customer loss as a result of the changes is too large, it's suicide.
If your average ticket collapses because customers buy a quarter of what they used to at 50% more money, it's suicide.
Moving into "managed decline" mode is a tough pivot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0lawO)
204
"It's crowded. Nobody goes there anymore." Yogi Berra
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (W7XSX)
205
Do you know who still provides good food at decent prices? Family run restaurants, not chains. Chains add an entire layer of ignorant management that must be paid for.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm)
206
133 MGM claimed that it was eliminating valet and bell staff ...
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Jobs that young people, especially men, would work for free as one who hustles can make six figures in tips alone -- and even more in finders' fees "running the hookers."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (kPeeO)
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That's what Vegas needs. Bring back the Running of the Hookers.
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Jobs that young people, especially men, would work for free as one who hustles can make six figures in tips alone -- and even more in finders' fees "running the hookers."
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:23 AM (kPeeO)
________
That's what Vegas needs. Bring back the Running of the Hookers.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (s0JqF)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:37 AM (L/fGl)
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@188
>>Maybe millions of illegal aliens being paid under the table had something to do with the cheap restaurants.
Illegal aliens didn't always make up the bulk of diner and restaurant staff, used to be lots of young kids and black people mixed in with the grizzled veteran's like Nick, Tony, Sal and Nick.
>>Maybe millions of illegal aliens being paid under the table had something to do with the cheap restaurants.
Illegal aliens didn't always make up the bulk of diner and restaurant staff, used to be lots of young kids and black people mixed in with the grizzled veteran's like Nick, Tony, Sal and Nick.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:37 AM (XV/Pl)
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Lol, sometimes a roving gang of pickleballers is just a little too raw & real for the Stepford Wives in Carmel, I see. It figures.
*narrows eyes, contemptuously chews toothpick*
*narrows eyes, contemptuously chews toothpick*
Posted by: Leather Jacketed Pickleball Miscreant at November 24, 2025 11:37 AM (BI5O2)
210
My mother is still playing pickleball with the youngsters at her retirement community, even though she did fall once and lightly fracture her wrist.
The "youngsters" are in their 70's.
My mother is 88. And I'm not joking.
she had one uncle who lived to 105, and another who lived to 106. She named me executor of her will, and I said "why bother? I should make you executor of mine."
The "youngsters" are in their 70's.
My mother is 88. And I'm not joking.
she had one uncle who lived to 105, and another who lived to 106. She named me executor of her will, and I said "why bother? I should make you executor of mine."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:38 AM (uWKK8)
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And that’s why Las Vegas has shifted away from gambling. Restaurants, shows, nightclubs, spas, golf is what the draw is now. Gambling is almost an afterthought.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (HW6XE)
Prostitution is, technically, illegal in Vegas and that's about the only thing they've got to differentiate themselves.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (HW6XE)
Prostitution is, technically, illegal in Vegas and that's about the only thing they've got to differentiate themselves.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e)
212
That's what Vegas needs. Bring back the Running of the Hookers.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (s0JqF)
Bystanders might get gored.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (s0JqF)
Bystanders might get gored.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:38 AM (npFr7)
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Add in tipping madness and we're seeing the early stages of the collapse of eating out. You'll get high end joints and taco trucks and everything else will be gone.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)
Taco trucks are starting to overcharge.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (ExV1e)
_____
Eating out is booming and shows no signs of slowing down. Prices are up, but so is diner traffic. People are willing to pay high prices. Try to get reservations at even a mid-level restaurant at a prime hour. The really high-end places are sold out months in advance.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)
Taco trucks are starting to overcharge.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (ExV1e)
_____
Eating out is booming and shows no signs of slowing down. Prices are up, but so is diner traffic. People are willing to pay high prices. Try to get reservations at even a mid-level restaurant at a prime hour. The really high-end places are sold out months in advance.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)
214
How do you ban pickleball for “noise” but tennis and basketball all are legal?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 11:38 AM (HW6XE)
215
Back Alley Pickleball under investigation in Carmel!!
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:38 AM (PCK5/)
216
Every Job Should Pay a Living Wage!!! and the living wage demands gets higher & higher depending upon interpretation, trade or lack thereof, and area.
See Starbucks strike.
See Starbucks strike.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (NFX2v)
217
"Add in tipping madness and we're seeing the early stages of the collapse of eating out. You'll get high end joints and taco trucks and everything else will be gone.
Posted by: Brother Tim"
Unless food is brought to my table or my house there will be no tip (unless the service was somehow exceptional.) The old ways are best.
Posted by: Brother Tim"
Unless food is brought to my table or my house there will be no tip (unless the service was somehow exceptional.) The old ways are best.
Posted by: Ripley at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (GUOwU)
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Hey, I hit my bonus metrics for reduced labor costs *and* reduced cost of supplies. I also hit the numbers for increased margins.
Win WIn WIn!
Now give me a bonus for undoing all the damage I did and I can create some real generational wealth.
Win WIn WIn!
Now give me a bonus for undoing all the damage I did and I can create some real generational wealth.
Posted by: CEO at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (8VwBr)
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My comment was about high-end sit-down restaurants, not fast-food.
LOL. At the nearest Buc-EEs, we asked a clerk "Why aren't there any tables to sit at and eat our food?"
"The customers would never leave."
LOL. At the nearest Buc-EEs, we asked a clerk "Why aren't there any tables to sit at and eat our food?"
"The customers would never leave."
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (W7XSX)
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Moving into "managed decline" mode is a tough pivot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0lawO)
Ask the Presbyterian, Methodists, and Episcopal's how that's working out for them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0lawO)
Ask the Presbyterian, Methodists, and Episcopal's how that's working out for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (uWKK8)
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For me, one of the worst things a business can do is, when I walk in, ready to spend money, there is no employee to greet me
anybody
just acknowledge my presence!
"You call yourself a salesman, you sonofabitch?"
anybody
just acknowledge my presence!
"You call yourself a salesman, you sonofabitch?"
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)
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In 1990, a fellow student and I each won a couple of tickets to a University of Texas football game of our choice by winning an introduction to the UT MBA program simulation exercise. It was something like:
https://sdgamesonline.com/game-info/People-Express
EXACTLY what you wrote about MGM Resorts & Panera Bread was used as an introduction to a name brand business school THIRTY-FIVE years ago. What the fuck. Everything is forgotten. A little bit before that time flash floods took several lives in central TexAss. Not building in flood prone areas became "the thing" like trăkneePhaggz were big under Biden. By this summer, the lesson learned had been forgotten and a group of girls at (Christian) Camp Mystic drowned in cabins which should never have been built based on the GIS map for Kerr County.
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C'est la vie, c'est la mort.
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In 1990, a fellow student and I each won a couple of tickets to a University of Texas football game of our choice by winning an introduction to the UT MBA program simulation exercise. It was something like:
https://sdgamesonline.com/game-info/People-Express
EXACTLY what you wrote about MGM Resorts & Panera Bread was used as an introduction to a name brand business school THIRTY-FIVE years ago. What the fuck. Everything is forgotten. A little bit before that time flash floods took several lives in central TexAss. Not building in flood prone areas became "the thing" like trăkneePhaggz were big under Biden. By this summer, the lesson learned had been forgotten and a group of girls at (Christian) Camp Mystic drowned in cabins which should never have been built based on the GIS map for Kerr County.
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C'est la vie, c'est la mort.
Posted by: Marooned at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (kt8QE)
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Manage the decline or hide the decline?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 24, 2025 11:39 AM (+k/kq)
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Comments at Youtube tell me that the increased price are entirely because Trump hasn't raised the federal minimum wage to $25/hour.
The decreased quality is just a bonus.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
I would have thought it was the tariffs, leading to bread and milk shortages.
The decreased quality is just a bonus.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:33 AM (ExV1e)
I would have thought it was the tariffs, leading to bread and milk shortages.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (G8jwy)
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this is just current political thinking applied to business: the core philosophy is the same: customers / constituents are just stupid marks, not really human.
betcha those ceos are all demonrats .
betcha those ceos are all demonrats .
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (Cjt/F)
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Haven't been to a Panera since before the decline Buck documents here. Food was OK, but only memorable thing was how mediocre/bad the coffee was. Which was stunning to me, in that sort of operation. I typically only went in one to get coffee and use the WiFi.
I made sure to try all the different coffees offered, each time. Only more astonishing coffee thing was how bad the coffee was at an overseas military operation/HQ situation, a 24-hour/more or less place with lots of Navy presence too, which you'd think would impose some normal standards on the coffee. Most people went to ordering their own beans and doing the French press at their workspace. Eventually it got fixed, but wow.
I made sure to try all the different coffees offered, each time. Only more astonishing coffee thing was how bad the coffee was at an overseas military operation/HQ situation, a 24-hour/more or less place with lots of Navy presence too, which you'd think would impose some normal standards on the coffee. Most people went to ordering their own beans and doing the French press at their workspace. Eventually it got fixed, but wow.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (U/Byj)
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By what manner can one contact Doof off line? I would like to email something to him.
By what manner can one contact Doof off line? I would like to email something to him.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (xG4kz)
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> How do you ban pickleball for “noise” but tennis and basketball all are legal?
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tennis & basketball are sports
pickleball is the devil's handiwork
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tennis & basketball are sports
pickleball is the devil's handiwork
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (AOsQT)
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BurtTC lives in the past where you first pumped gas then paid for it.
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I assume California or New York was the first area to go to the "pay first" model? I remember visiting Sacramento circa 1995 and getting hit with that. In Oklahoma we held out until around 2000 when all at once the stations flipped to the "pay first" model.
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I assume California or New York was the first area to go to the "pay first" model? I remember visiting Sacramento circa 1995 and getting hit with that. In Oklahoma we held out until around 2000 when all at once the stations flipped to the "pay first" model.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (TN0g+)
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52 Family Fun in Vegas. That doesn’t immediately spring to mind.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (PCK5/)
It does to me!
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:13 AM (PCK5/)
It does to me!
Posted by: Joe biden at November 24, 2025 11:41 AM (i0Hi3)
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* Flips silver dollar.
You know what I miss most about gambling?
The slot in the machine. Nothing compares to 2000 silver dollars clinking off a stainless steel coin bin when you hit a Royal.
You know what I miss most about gambling?
The slot in the machine. Nothing compares to 2000 silver dollars clinking off a stainless steel coin bin when you hit a Royal.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:41 AM (+Rs+1)
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231 * Flips silver dollar.
You know what I miss most about gambling?
The slot in the machine. Nothing compares to 2000 silver dollars clinking off a stainless steel coin bin when you hit a Royal.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:41 AM (+Rs+1)
That’d be worth, what, 60k now?
You know what I miss most about gambling?
The slot in the machine. Nothing compares to 2000 silver dollars clinking off a stainless steel coin bin when you hit a Royal.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:41 AM (+Rs+1)
That’d be worth, what, 60k now?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:42 AM (PCK5/)
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In an earnings call Wednesday, Hornbuckle said the company has “price-corrected” its resorts following a summer of backlash over steep charges, including the “infamous” $26 bottle of Fiji water at the Aria hotel.
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Ah, yes. The Aria. Las Vegas in a nutshell, that place.
Broke ground in 2006, at the height of the housing finance bubble.
Opened in 2009, at the depth of the post-housing-finance-bubble fallout.
Started out cheap to keep rooms in an empty city a little bit less empty.
Skyrocketed in price right along with the financial recovery, moving up fast
Cashed out during the COVID Hangover by selling to Blackstone (private equity) in 2021
Started strip-mining customers and cutting costs while coasting on its elite reputation
Next will come the next decline, the AI bubble aftermath, liquidation, transferring to new management after massive write-downs for Blackstone and its investors, and then the enshabification will proceed apace until it's imploded and replaced.
It's the Las Vegas Way.
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Ah, yes. The Aria. Las Vegas in a nutshell, that place.
Broke ground in 2006, at the height of the housing finance bubble.
Opened in 2009, at the depth of the post-housing-finance-bubble fallout.
Started out cheap to keep rooms in an empty city a little bit less empty.
Skyrocketed in price right along with the financial recovery, moving up fast
Cashed out during the COVID Hangover by selling to Blackstone (private equity) in 2021
Started strip-mining customers and cutting costs while coasting on its elite reputation
Next will come the next decline, the AI bubble aftermath, liquidation, transferring to new management after massive write-downs for Blackstone and its investors, and then the enshabification will proceed apace until it's imploded and replaced.
It's the Las Vegas Way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (0lawO)
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Chik-Fil-A goes hmmmm.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (PCK5/)
I hear you can get beer at a McDonalds in france.
Except they don't call it beer. They call it le beer.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (PCK5/)
I hear you can get beer at a McDonalds in france.
Except they don't call it beer. They call it le beer.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (G8jwy)
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104 The only place worth anything in Vegas is Battlefield Vegas.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (+Rs+1)
The Museum of Nuclear Testing is worth a visit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (npFr7)
As is the Mob Museum...
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:14 AM (+Rs+1)
The Museum of Nuclear Testing is worth a visit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:19 AM (npFr7)
As is the Mob Museum...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (tOcjL)
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The country is addicted to growth.
I live in Japan, where companies strive to sustain. It is very competitive in everything, and very innovative in delivering quality to the customer. CEOs see it as their job to pass on a legacy of quality and stability to the next generation.
I see a lot of shrinkflation, and some technology driven cost cutting, but I see almost ZERO cuts in quality. I notice this especially in the ingredients used in supermarket goods, which I am sensitive to and disgusted with in USA as the oils and sugars are all replaced with chemicals.
The problem is the US bonus and options incentive structure. This goes back to taxes and regulations but I wont have room for that here.
I live in Japan, where companies strive to sustain. It is very competitive in everything, and very innovative in delivering quality to the customer. CEOs see it as their job to pass on a legacy of quality and stability to the next generation.
I see a lot of shrinkflation, and some technology driven cost cutting, but I see almost ZERO cuts in quality. I notice this especially in the ingredients used in supermarket goods, which I am sensitive to and disgusted with in USA as the oils and sugars are all replaced with chemicals.
The problem is the US bonus and options incentive structure. This goes back to taxes and regulations but I wont have room for that here.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (8VwBr)
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Ask the Presbyterian, Methodists, and Episcopal's how that's working out for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
They elected to be beta test cases for the Great Replacement Theory.
Ask the Presbyterian, Methodists, and Episcopal's how that's working out for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo
They elected to be beta test cases for the Great Replacement Theory.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (xG4kz)
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Most restaurants break even on the food and the profits are from the bar.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (W7XSX)
Texas has the 51% law. If your establishment makes 51% of it's profits (or more) from alcohol sales, they must post a sign and licensed weapon carriers cannot carry a weapon inside. Most restaurants do not have this sign posted.
Posted by: no one at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (W7XSX)
Texas has the 51% law. If your establishment makes 51% of it's profits (or more) from alcohol sales, they must post a sign and licensed weapon carriers cannot carry a weapon inside. Most restaurants do not have this sign posted.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (L/fGl)
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And even if restaurants of all categories had merely maintained standards of service since 2020, 95% are priced far beyond their value. At least in SoCal this started well before The Great Idiocy of 2020. Absurdly expensive. Even good food wasn't worth it.
Now? Among the many things I don't understand, which appears to be most things, I cannot comprehend how price/value proposition alone didn't gut the restaurant industry, even before the virus idiocy. I'm not alone, people I know said the same thing. Hawaiian resort prices at regular places. Incredible.
Now? Among the many things I don't understand, which appears to be most things, I cannot comprehend how price/value proposition alone didn't gut the restaurant industry, even before the virus idiocy. I'm not alone, people I know said the same thing. Hawaiian resort prices at regular places. Incredible.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (U/Byj)
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Panera seems to have drove a lot of the Atlanta Bread Companies away. But, they seemed to have faltered in the same way as Panera, but earlier.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (3uBP9)
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You know what I miss most about gambling?
The slot in the machine. Nothing compares to 2000 silver dollars clinking off a stainless steel coin bin when you hit a Royal.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:41 AM (+Rs+1)
Yep. I have never been much of a gambler, but back when real coin-fed slot machines existed, I would throw my pocket change into them when the occasion arose. My losses limited by the capacity of my jeans pocket.
The slot in the machine. Nothing compares to 2000 silver dollars clinking off a stainless steel coin bin when you hit a Royal.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:41 AM (+Rs+1)
Yep. I have never been much of a gambler, but back when real coin-fed slot machines existed, I would throw my pocket change into them when the occasion arose. My losses limited by the capacity of my jeans pocket.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (npFr7)
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"Taco trucks are starting to overcharge.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (ExV1e) "
LOL, yup. last mexican food truck I looked at (quite elaborate, really a big trailer with full kitchen) they wanted $10+ for a burrito, and not a particularly big one, either. SAD!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 24, 2025 11:35 AM (ExV1e) "
LOL, yup. last mexican food truck I looked at (quite elaborate, really a big trailer with full kitchen) they wanted $10+ for a burrito, and not a particularly big one, either. SAD!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (Cjt/F)
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I also hope that other corporate executives will learn from MGM and Panera and avoid having to give their own contrite apologies. Treating employees as a pestilence and customers as prey is a destructive business practice that should have never gained favor, and which needs to be repudiated by corporate America.
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Not a chance. Not so long as there is quarterly motivation for action with gobs of stock-based compensation paid for through debt-financed share buybacks rather than the company treasury. Much better for them personally to detonate the balance sheet and pocket the difference by transferring owner equity from the market to their own pockets using debt to affect the shift.
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Not a chance. Not so long as there is quarterly motivation for action with gobs of stock-based compensation paid for through debt-financed share buybacks rather than the company treasury. Much better for them personally to detonate the balance sheet and pocket the difference by transferring owner equity from the market to their own pockets using debt to affect the shift.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (0lawO)
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>>>A great many customers may get hoodwinked once, providing the short-term profit boost that was being sought, but then never come back, thus destroying the company’s long-term prospects. A downward spiral of alienated customers, declining revenue, deteriorating facilities, and degraded reputation ensues.
I knew Panera had done been victim of the bean counter class without any concrete reporting from them. And my response is exactly this. I haven't been back. I won't be back. They've destroyed their brand.
I knew Panera had done been victim of the bean counter class without any concrete reporting from them. And my response is exactly this. I haven't been back. I won't be back. They've destroyed their brand.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (dK+Kv)
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>>OK, but only memorable thing was how mediocre/bad the coffee was. Which was stunning to me, in that sort of operation. I typically only went in one to get coffee and use the WiFi.
Never had coffee at Panera, one of the draws was the numerous different types of iced teas and lemonades they would offer, they cut back on that dramatically to where they only I had one tea and one lemonade, which was really the beginning of the end for Panera.
>>OK, but only memorable thing was how mediocre/bad the coffee was. Which was stunning to me, in that sort of operation. I typically only went in one to get coffee and use the WiFi.
Never had coffee at Panera, one of the draws was the numerous different types of iced teas and lemonades they would offer, they cut back on that dramatically to where they only I had one tea and one lemonade, which was really the beginning of the end for Panera.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (XV/Pl)
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I quit McD when it quit Beef Tallow for fries …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (ayRl+)
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Except they don't call it beer. They call it le beer.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (G8jwy)
Le beer. Isn't that misgendering?
Le =male
La =female
Though I'm unclear what the french language would do for a word that is "non-binary" or tranny.
Except they don't call it beer. They call it le beer.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (G8jwy)
Le beer. Isn't that misgendering?
Le =male
La =female
Though I'm unclear what the french language would do for a word that is "non-binary" or tranny.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (N39Ws)
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pickleball is the devil's handiwork
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (AOsQT)
Pickelball was invented to get old people up and active again.
F*cking millennials stole it and kicked them off the courts. Old people playing the game weren't the problem with noise. It's the f*cking young kids stealing the sport because they're too f*cking lazy to play actual tennis.
pickleball is the devil's handiwork
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:40 AM (AOsQT)
Pickelball was invented to get old people up and active again.
F*cking millennials stole it and kicked them off the courts. Old people playing the game weren't the problem with noise. It's the f*cking young kids stealing the sport because they're too f*cking lazy to play actual tennis.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)
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Texas has the 51% law. If your establishment makes 51% of it's profits (or more) from alcohol sales, they must post a sign and licensed weapon carriers cannot carry a weapon inside. Most restaurants do not have this sign posted.
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Are you sure that 51% isn't a measure of revenue, rather than profit? Because revenue is straight-forward calculation that any mom and pop establishment could do, whereas profit is a little more nuanced.
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Are you sure that 51% isn't a measure of revenue, rather than profit? Because revenue is straight-forward calculation that any mom and pop establishment could do, whereas profit is a little more nuanced.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (TN0g+)
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Hawaiian resort prices at regular places. Incredible.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (U/Byj)
Add obscene delivery costs, and it becomes even more ridiculous.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (U/Byj)
Add obscene delivery costs, and it becomes even more ridiculous.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (n9ltV)
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I quit McD when it quit Beef Tallow for fries …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (ayRl+)
That wasn't McDonald's fault. The f*cking government needs to keep it's nose out of some things.
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (ayRl+)
That wasn't McDonald's fault. The f*cking government needs to keep it's nose out of some things.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)
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You start playing Pickleball, before you know it you've decorated your house with updside-down pineapples and always steer the conversation to 'the lifestyle' in social gatherings...
IYKYK
IYKYK
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (FQbbs)
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‘ It's bad, but I'm most worried about Miller's rhetoric about denaturalization.’
I’m worried Miller’s rhetoric will never become policy.
‘ It's bad, but I'm most worried about Miller's rhetoric about denaturalization.’
I’m worried Miller’s rhetoric will never become policy.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (jbnUc)
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> last mexican food truck I looked at (quite elaborate, really a big trailer with full kitchen) they wanted $10+ for a burrito
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Eff that
I can make half a dozen burritos at home for $10
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Eff that
I can make half a dozen burritos at home for $10
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (AOsQT)
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Haven't been to the nuke museum since they moved but will some day. Also want to get on the day trip to the test site. And check out the Atomic Cafe (?), which preserves much of its nuke testing-era stuff, I'm told. Including the observation deck on top where people would watch the shots.
Amurika, eff yeah. As they say, we were once a proper superpower. You could go watch nuke atmospheric/surface tests from a bar in Vegas.
Amurika, eff yeah. As they say, we were once a proper superpower. You could go watch nuke atmospheric/surface tests from a bar in Vegas.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (U/Byj)
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Ah, yes. The Aria. Las Vegas in a nutshell, that place.
Broke ground in 2006, at the height of the housing finance bubble.
Opened in 2009, at the depth of the post-housing-finance-bubble fallout.
Started out cheap to keep rooms in an empty city a little bit less empty.
Skyrocketed in price right along with the financial recovery, moving up fast
Cashed out during the COVID Hangover by selling to Blackstone (private equity) in 2021
Started strip-mining customers and cutting costs while coasting on its elite reputation
Next will come the next decline, the AI bubble aftermath, liquidation, transferring to new management after massive write-downs for Blackstone and its investors, and then the enshabification will proceed apace until it's imploded and replaced.
It's the Las Vegas Way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (0lawO)
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I stayed at Aria a while back when it was the Big New Thing. Was actually really nice. Part of the problem in LV -- and many expensive, glitzy destinations -- is that there's always a Big New Thing that displaces the last Big New Thing.
Broke ground in 2006, at the height of the housing finance bubble.
Opened in 2009, at the depth of the post-housing-finance-bubble fallout.
Started out cheap to keep rooms in an empty city a little bit less empty.
Skyrocketed in price right along with the financial recovery, moving up fast
Cashed out during the COVID Hangover by selling to Blackstone (private equity) in 2021
Started strip-mining customers and cutting costs while coasting on its elite reputation
Next will come the next decline, the AI bubble aftermath, liquidation, transferring to new management after massive write-downs for Blackstone and its investors, and then the enshabification will proceed apace until it's imploded and replaced.
It's the Las Vegas Way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:43 AM (0lawO)
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I stayed at Aria a while back when it was the Big New Thing. Was actually really nice. Part of the problem in LV -- and many expensive, glitzy destinations -- is that there's always a Big New Thing that displaces the last Big New Thing.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (iFTx/)
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yAre you sure that 51% isn't a measure of revenue, rather than profit? Because revenue is straight-forward calculation that any mom and pop establishment could do, whereas profit is a little more nuanced.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (TN0g+)
I believe you're correct. It's revenue. Not profit.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:46 AM (TN0g+)
I believe you're correct. It's revenue. Not profit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)
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This bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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Panera had a great egg souffle thingy. But if the bake staff weren't right on point it would come out uncooked and mushy. And they always made an insufficient amount during a small window of time in the morning.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:48 AM (3uBP9)
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That’d be worth, what, 60k now?
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:42 AM (PCK5/)
Adjusted for inflation, probably. A Royal or a 777 hit back in the 70's and 80's was life changing for some.
Posted by: tubal at November 24, 2025 11:42 AM (PCK5/)
Adjusted for inflation, probably. A Royal or a 777 hit back in the 70's and 80's was life changing for some.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 11:48 AM (+Rs+1)
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205 Do you know who still provides good food at decent prices? Family run restaurants, not chains. Chains add an entire layer of ignorant management that must be paid for.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm)
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Exactly.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm)
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Exactly.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:48 AM (s0JqF)
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Panera seems to have drove a lot of the Atlanta Bread Companies away. But, they seemed to have faltered in the same way as Panera, but earlier.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (3uBP9)
I believe Panera started as St. Louis Bread Co, and then ate up any number of other, similar chains in other parts of the country. I wonder how many of them were already part of the parent company, and had other city names attached to them, before they all became Paneras.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:44 AM (3uBP9)
I believe Panera started as St. Louis Bread Co, and then ate up any number of other, similar chains in other parts of the country. I wonder how many of them were already part of the parent company, and had other city names attached to them, before they all became Paneras.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:48 AM (G8jwy)
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Flips silver dollar
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Back in olden days, there was a dive bar I sometimes found myself in. You'd walk in, slam a silver dollar on the bar, and they'd give you a pitcher of beer.
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Back in olden days, there was a dive bar I sometimes found myself in. You'd walk in, slam a silver dollar on the bar, and they'd give you a pitcher of beer.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 24, 2025 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
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This bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She's shopped into that background, but ... TBWB.
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She's shopped into that background, but ... TBWB.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (iFTx/)
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‘ She's a little loose with truth. And the facts. And the law.’
Fat little pig stole her senate seat. Now, she lords the crime over the law abiding.
‘ She's a little loose with truth. And the facts. And the law.’
Fat little pig stole her senate seat. Now, she lords the crime over the law abiding.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (jbnUc)
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What's a "bedroom blonde"? I'm not hip on the lingo.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (3uBP9)
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This bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
Definitely AI. Those legs......They don't fit.
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
Definitely AI. Those legs......They don't fit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)
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Seems the customer no longer comes first.
Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (Bg+2b)
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (AOsQT)
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Think of pickleball sounds like constant hammering.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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I stayed at Aria a while back when it was the Big New Thing. Was actually really nice. Part of the problem in LV -- and many expensive, glitzy destinations -- is that there's always a Big New Thing that displaces the last Big New Thing.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (iFTx/)
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2009-2010 was a magical time to go to Las Vegas. Lots of *very* swanky new places were finishing up and opening into the worst recession in memory and you could stay at them for next to nothing. Super high-end, obscenely nice hotels for the cost of a Best Western in other places.
That ended fast as soon as people could rack up debt and equities started surging again. But man, that was cool for a minute.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (iFTx/)
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2009-2010 was a magical time to go to Las Vegas. Lots of *very* swanky new places were finishing up and opening into the worst recession in memory and you could stay at them for next to nothing. Super high-end, obscenely nice hotels for the cost of a Best Western in other places.
That ended fast as soon as people could rack up debt and equities started surging again. But man, that was cool for a minute.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (0lawO)
273
Pickelball was invented to get old people up and active again.
F*cking millennials stole it and kicked them off the courts. Old people playing the game weren't the problem with noise. It's the f*cking young kids stealing the sport because they're too f*cking lazy to play actual tennis.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM
I was in my hometown Saturday doing some stuff for the RMBS Mom, and I saw that the Bed Bath & Beyond that closed has been reopened as a pickleball court. The Picklr. The virus is spreading.
F*cking millennials stole it and kicked them off the courts. Old people playing the game weren't the problem with noise. It's the f*cking young kids stealing the sport because they're too f*cking lazy to play actual tennis.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM
I was in my hometown Saturday doing some stuff for the RMBS Mom, and I saw that the Bed Bath & Beyond that closed has been reopened as a pickleball court. The Picklr. The virus is spreading.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (kgE5c)
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Straight up MBA business school cutting edge practice.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (zYOfR)
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262 205 Do you know who still provides good food at decent prices? Family run restaurants, not chains. Chains add an entire layer of ignorant management that must be paid for.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm)
Agree, and I hate to say this, except they have some of the best cooked lunches I can find around here - Los Guero's Tacqueria, and El Lugar Tacqueria. So much better than any chain!
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm)
Agree, and I hate to say this, except they have some of the best cooked lunches I can find around here - Los Guero's Tacqueria, and El Lugar Tacqueria. So much better than any chain!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (uWKK8)
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The local panera bread hasn't gotten the "Reverse policy" Memo yet. Just brought one of their shrunken sandwiches and it was mostly a big piece of bread.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (otJlS)
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First time going to a Panera, with then-GF now wife, took a look at the menu, the decor, and the customers, and told her, 'This is a chick joint'. She did not disagree. Haven't been in one since before Covid.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (NcvvS)
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Pickle Ball kind of takes out the least-injury-likely part of tennis (the moving from spot A to chase the ball which will land at spot B) and instead *emphasizes* the most injury-prone part of tennis (the sudden stop while swinging a racket in a violent motion). The "moving from spot to spot" is actually good for one. There's a reason why pickle ball injuries are a real thing--the game should never have been marketed to seniors.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)
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Only one "thing" can save MGM Resorts International and Panera Bread and it's "A TRANNY MARKETING BLITZ!"
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (xvV+O)
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If you want to see successful, clever business executives in action, this 11 minute video on the rise of Fireball "whiskey" is pretty interesting. Lots of twists and turns on how they rebranded and finagled a failing product into an industry juggernaut.
https://shorturl.at/D85DQ
https://shorturl.at/D85DQ
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (JCZqz)
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@ 262 205 Do you know who still provides good food at decent prices? Family run restaurants, not chains. Chains add an entire layer of ignorant management that must be paid for.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm) _______ • Exactly.
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That's why my daughter & I only eat at family restaurants when we make our weekly Restaurant Crawl … better food, better service, better prices - and the staff will actually speak with you. Double-plus good, Winston.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 11:36 AM (0U5gm) _______ • Exactly.
__________________________________
That's why my daughter & I only eat at family restaurants when we make our weekly Restaurant Crawl … better food, better service, better prices - and the staff will actually speak with you. Double-plus good, Winston.
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (ayRl+)
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First time going to a Panera, with then-GF now wife, took a look at the menu, the decor, and the customers, and told her, 'This is a chick joint'. She did not disagree. Haven't been in one since before Covid.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (NcvvS)
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It *is* to a large degree.
And thus is a great place to grab a somewhat overpriced sandwich, kick back, and do some bird-watching.
Or was. Been a while since I was in one.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (NcvvS)
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It *is* to a large degree.
And thus is a great place to grab a somewhat overpriced sandwich, kick back, and do some bird-watching.
Or was. Been a while since I was in one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (0lawO)
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Le beer. Isn't that misgendering?
Le =male
La =female
Though I'm unclear what the french language would do for a word that is "non-binary" or tranny.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (N39Ws)
Yeah, I'm gonna guess they also have some fruity french word for beer too.
Le =male
La =female
Though I'm unclear what the french language would do for a word that is "non-binary" or tranny.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:45 AM (N39Ws)
Yeah, I'm gonna guess they also have some fruity french word for beer too.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (BRtdF)
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I have zero interest in pickleball… never played it; never will. I don’t understand the draw…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
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I have zero interest in pickleball… never played it; never will. I don’t understand the draw…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
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People seem to like it. I never played and have no interest, but if people like it and have fun doing it, cool.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
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People seem to like it. I never played and have no interest, but if people like it and have fun doing it, cool.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (0lawO)
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I was in my hometown Saturday doing some stuff for the RMBS Mom, and I saw that the Bed Bath & Beyond that closed has been reopened as a pickleball court. The Picklr. The virus is spreading.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (kgE5c)
There are a few indoor places around here as well. I'm sure there would be an interest at some point, but I can't see me taking part anytime soon.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (kgE5c)
There are a few indoor places around here as well. I'm sure there would be an interest at some point, but I can't see me taking part anytime soon.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)
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284 I have zero interest in pickleball… never played it; never will. I don’t understand the draw…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
Low impact tennis, or high impact ping pong.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
Low impact tennis, or high impact ping pong.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (N39Ws)
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This bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She's shopped into that background, but ...
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Good lord, her upper body must have also been photo-shopped onto those legs! Those legs are TWICE as wide as what belongs on a gal of her size.
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
______
She's shopped into that background, but ...
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Good lord, her upper body must have also been photo-shopped onto those legs! Those legs are TWICE as wide as what belongs on a gal of her size.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (TN0g+)
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"guests would walk into our cafe to buy a sandwich that has gone up significantly in price, with lower-quality ingredients, in a smaller size"
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And some of you guys think that corporate executives don't know what they are talking about and MBAs are a study in stupidity.
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And some of you guys think that corporate executives don't know what they are talking about and MBAs are a study in stupidity.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (xvV+O)
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Food trucks around here don't take cash anymore. Either you have an app on your smartphone that they accept to transfer money, or a debit card on a system that also accepts it.
Gone are the days of spending $20 and getting enough food for about two meals per person.
well, two old people like my wife and I
Gone are the days of spending $20 and getting enough food for about two meals per person.
well, two old people like my wife and I
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)
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"Eat at home."
THIS!
from time to time exigent circumstances find me grabbing something from Kwik-Trip, (acceptable food, pretty reasonable. their egg rolls are good, which is kind of surprising for a Wisconsin chain of gas / convenience stores) but that's about it.
THIS!
from time to time exigent circumstances find me grabbing something from Kwik-Trip, (acceptable food, pretty reasonable. their egg rolls are good, which is kind of surprising for a Wisconsin chain of gas / convenience stores) but that's about it.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (Cjt/F)
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Think of pickleball sounds like constant hammering.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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This is about Nurse and her house-attracting woodpeckers, isn't it?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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This is about Nurse and her house-attracting woodpeckers, isn't it?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (OgZqo)
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There are a few indoor places around here as well. I'm sure there would be an interest at some point, but I can't see me taking part anytime soon.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)
A son of one of the cofounders of Planet Fitness is opening up a gym (not PF) that will be built around pickle ball courts.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)
A son of one of the cofounders of Planet Fitness is opening up a gym (not PF) that will be built around pickle ball courts.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (N39Ws)
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And some of you guys think that corporate executives don't know what they are talking about and MBAs are a study in stupidity.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (xvV+O)
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LOL. They left out the last part "... and somehow, the customers noticed!"
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (xvV+O)
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LOL. They left out the last part "... and somehow, the customers noticed!"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (0lawO)
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284 I have zero interest in pickleball… never played it; never will. I don’t understand the draw…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
My mother was a pretty good tennis player in her 30's, and this was the best way she could pick it back up in her 80's.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 11:52 AM (WnEm5)
My mother was a pretty good tennis player in her 30's, and this was the best way she could pick it back up in her 80's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK8)
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>>And thus is a great place to grab a somewhat overpriced sandwich, kick back, and do some bird-watching.
Or was. Been a while since I was in one.
Until I retired, never had the time for that, and the one we went to rarely had birds you'd want to watch.
Or was. Been a while since I was in one.
Until I retired, never had the time for that, and the one we went to rarely had birds you'd want to watch.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (NcvvS)
297
This bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
Looks like a futon. Mattress is about 4' long. She's a poor.
Would not bang.
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
Looks like a futon. Mattress is about 4' long. She's a poor.
Would not bang.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (BRtdF)
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@ 278 Pickle Ball kind of takes out the least-injury-likely part of tennis …
_______________________________
Who effing cares … ? I'd never play anything with a name as existentially idiotic as 'Pickle Ball'. WTF … ? Alles ist scheisse …
_______________________________
Who effing cares … ? I'd never play anything with a name as existentially idiotic as 'Pickle Ball'. WTF … ? Alles ist scheisse …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (ayRl+)
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>>> Pickle Ball kind of takes out the least-injury-likely part of tennis (the moving from spot A to chase the ball which will land at spot B) and instead *emphasizes* the most injury-prone part of tennis (the sudden stop while swinging a racket in a violent motion). The "moving from spot to spot" is actually good for one. There's a reason why pickle ball injuries are a real thing--the game should never have been marketed to seniors.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)
Racket ball almost killed me. I have bad depth perception and my brain was always mentally calculating the intersect point between me and the ball to be inside a wall with my legs just going along with it, uh hurr dur dur, sure thing boss. BAM!
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (TN0g+)
Racket ball almost killed me. I have bad depth perception and my brain was always mentally calculating the intersect point between me and the ball to be inside a wall with my legs just going along with it, uh hurr dur dur, sure thing boss. BAM!
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (3uBP9)
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My mother was a pretty good tennis player in her 30's, and this was the best way she could pick it back up in her 80's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK
Until the 30's tell her to get the f*ck off 'their' courts.
My mother was a pretty good tennis player in her 30's, and this was the best way she could pick it back up in her 80's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK
Until the 30's tell her to get the f*ck off 'their' courts.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (Zz0t1)
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If you want to see successful, clever business executives in action, this 11 minute video on the rise of Fireball "whiskey" is pretty interesting. Lots of twists and turns on how they rebranded and finagled a failing product into an industry juggernaut.
https://shorturl.at/D85DQ
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (JCZqz)
They sell airline bottles of it to street bums in vast quantities, if the empties discarded into the driveway of my place in AZ is any indication.
https://shorturl.at/D85DQ
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 24, 2025 11:51 AM (JCZqz)
They sell airline bottles of it to street bums in vast quantities, if the empties discarded into the driveway of my place in AZ is any indication.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (npFr7)
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Looks like a futon. Mattress is about 4' long. She's a poor.
Would not bang.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (BRtdF)
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I don't need her to be rich. Just pleasant.
Would not bang.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (BRtdF)
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I don't need her to be rich. Just pleasant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (0lawO)
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Think of pickleball sounds like constant hammering.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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This is about Nurse and her house-attracting woodpeckers, isn't it?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM
Stop the hammering!!!!
- Lawrence O'Donnell
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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This is about Nurse and her house-attracting woodpeckers, isn't it?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM
Stop the hammering!!!!
- Lawrence O'Donnell
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (kgE5c)
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@288
>>Good lord, her upper body must have also been photo-shopped onto those legs! Those legs are TWICE as wide as what belongs on a gal of her size.
My assumption is 90+% of images of women are AI generated now.
>>Good lord, her upper body must have also been photo-shopped onto those legs! Those legs are TWICE as wide as what belongs on a gal of her size.
My assumption is 90+% of images of women are AI generated now.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (XV/Pl)
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I was in my hometown Saturday doing some stuff for the RMBS Mom, and I saw that the Bed Bath & Beyond that closed has been reopened as a pickleball court. The Picklr. The virus is spreading.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (kgE5c)
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Sound of pickles is not to music to my ears. They installed courts in Florida a block from my house and the noise just caaaaarrries. Plop. Plunk.
I was in my hometown Saturday doing some stuff for the RMBS Mom, and I saw that the Bed Bath & Beyond that closed has been reopened as a pickleball court. The Picklr. The virus is spreading.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:50 AM (kgE5c)
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Sound of pickles is not to music to my ears. They installed courts in Florida a block from my house and the noise just caaaaarrries. Plop. Plunk.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (cYpPP)
306
Pickleball, I'm not going to knock anything that has people out moving and getting exercise.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (sDNVV)
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As someone who has been a fan of Panera's for several years, I'm glad to see that they are learning their lessons.
I'm wondering if the conditions for graduating with an MBA is being forced to work at the companies they want to impose these marvelous ideas for a year.
I'm wondering if the conditions for graduating with an MBA is being forced to work at the companies they want to impose these marvelous ideas for a year.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (7xrfc)
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Only an economic illiterate talks about price gouging.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest. In any case, that is the #1 rule of economics.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest. In any case, that is the #1 rule of economics.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (6KcYW)
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Last time I had an MRI I asked the tech what her most common patient issues were. To my astonishment, she said "pickleball injuries". Naturally. Ankles, knees, legs.
Still pretty amazing.
Went to a young orthopedist shoulder specialist a few years back and I asked him if the scooter phenomenon had increased business. Oh yes, he said. Very noticeably. He was observant. He noted that so many younger Americans are overweight and un-athletic, that a scooter was a very easy way to get injured. Sad!
Still pretty amazing.
Went to a young orthopedist shoulder specialist a few years back and I asked him if the scooter phenomenon had increased business. Oh yes, he said. Very noticeably. He was observant. He noted that so many younger Americans are overweight and un-athletic, that a scooter was a very easy way to get injured. Sad!
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (U/Byj)
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This fountainside brunette hopes she's more acceptable to you lot:
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (0lawO)
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I don't need her to be rich. Just pleasant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (0lawO)
That's what I said! She's a peasant!
And peasants are revolting.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (0lawO)
That's what I said! She's a peasant!
And peasants are revolting.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (BRtdF)
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Who effing cares … ? I'd never play anything with a name as existentially idiotic as 'Pickle Ball'. WTF … ? Alles ist scheisse …
Posted by: Dr_No
How about something called "football", where the ball is touched by a foot maybe 15 or so times in an hour-long game?
Posted by: Dr_No
How about something called "football", where the ball is touched by a foot maybe 15 or so times in an hour-long game?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz)
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259 This bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She looks a little like the Dutch hottie, Eva VL-whatever.
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She looks a little like the Dutch hottie, Eva VL-whatever.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 24, 2025 11:57 AM (s0JqF)
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What this site needs is a pickleball filter.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc)
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I'm running around the racketball court like a spaz bouncing off everything while my opponent is strolling about his six foot square effortlessly returning everything. Great exercise though.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (3uBP9)
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>>>Good lord, her upper body must have also been photo-shopped onto those legs! Those legs are TWICE as wide as what belongs on a gal of her size.
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proper lens selection and camera angle are key
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proper lens selection and camera angle are key
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (AOsQT)
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What this site needs is a pickleball filter.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc)
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In the sense of "content filter" (e.g., 'filter out pickleball content so you don't see it') or in the sense of "instagram filter" (e.g., 'add overlays and other content to make it resemble pickleball')?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc)
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In the sense of "content filter" (e.g., 'filter out pickleball content so you don't see it') or in the sense of "instagram filter" (e.g., 'add overlays and other content to make it resemble pickleball')?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (0lawO)
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Regarding MGM Vegas properties on the strip...
As a regular visitor over the years, I was told by a veteran table dealer a while back that the move to 6:5 payouts from 3:2 for blackjack netted their (MGM) strip properties an extra $250,000 a day in take for the corporation.
$90 million a year, after taking into account player behavior changes resulting from payout changes.
Apparently many casual players do not care enough to find a 3:2 table, if available.
Regarding Blackrock, the Cosmopolitan (MGM prop) pays them $1.4 million a month for their lease after selling their poroperty off a few years back.
As a regular visitor over the years, I was told by a veteran table dealer a while back that the move to 6:5 payouts from 3:2 for blackjack netted their (MGM) strip properties an extra $250,000 a day in take for the corporation.
$90 million a year, after taking into account player behavior changes resulting from payout changes.
Apparently many casual players do not care enough to find a 3:2 table, if available.
Regarding Blackrock, the Cosmopolitan (MGM prop) pays them $1.4 million a month for their lease after selling their poroperty off a few years back.
Posted by: Andrew at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (FBacG)
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Ben Had, agree totally in principle. As the MRI tech said, it's just that it has resulted in many many injuries from inactive or formerly athletic people suddenly taking it up.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (U/Byj)
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298 Who effing cares … ? I'd never play anything with a name as existentially idiotic as 'Pickle Ball'. WTF … ? Alles ist scheisse …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (ayRl+)
And if they renamed it "Badass Marine Deathball"?
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 11:54 AM (ayRl+)
And if they renamed it "Badass Marine Deathball"?
Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (UnA8+)
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"Eat at home."
THIS!
from time to time exigent circumstances find me grabbing something from Kwik-Trip, (acceptable food, pretty reasonable. their egg rolls are good, which is kind of surprising for a Wisconsin chain of gas / convenience stores) but that's about it.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (Cjt/F)
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I make two 500-mile (9-hour) round trips for work each week.
About halfway I like to pop into a Maverik gas station chain to use the bathroom and I used to buy a pretty good & relatively inexpensive bacon breakfast burrito.
One day it had some crappy spicy sauce in it -- Queso? -- which they basically use as cheap filler instead of more of the other breakfast ingredients. I checked, and they've done this with every type of breakfast burrito there -- and they won't be getting another penny from me.
THIS!
from time to time exigent circumstances find me grabbing something from Kwik-Trip, (acceptable food, pretty reasonable. their egg rolls are good, which is kind of surprising for a Wisconsin chain of gas / convenience stores) but that's about it.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (Cjt/F)
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I make two 500-mile (9-hour) round trips for work each week.
About halfway I like to pop into a Maverik gas station chain to use the bathroom and I used to buy a pretty good & relatively inexpensive bacon breakfast burrito.
One day it had some crappy spicy sauce in it -- Queso? -- which they basically use as cheap filler instead of more of the other breakfast ingredients. I checked, and they've done this with every type of breakfast burrito there -- and they won't be getting another penny from me.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (cTD1V)
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‘ I hear you can get beer at a McDonalds in france.’
I can confirm you can get a McDonalds beer in Spain. It’s one of my few fond memories of the place.
‘ I hear you can get beer at a McDonalds in france.’
I can confirm you can get a McDonalds beer in Spain. It’s one of my few fond memories of the place.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (jbnUc)
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How about something called "football", where the ball is touched by a foot maybe 15 or so times in an hour-long game?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz)
Unless your QB is Kyler Murray, then the ball is thrown at the receivers' feet half the time.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz)
Unless your QB is Kyler Murray, then the ball is thrown at the receivers' feet half the time.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (pmsro)
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>Pickleball, I'm not going to knock anything that has people out moving and getting exercise.
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what if it looks silly
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what if it looks silly
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (AOsQT)
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>>> This fountainside brunette hopes she's more acceptable to you lot:
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (0lawO)
I bet there are a lot mosquitos there, despite the abatement water feature.
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (0lawO)
I bet there are a lot mosquitos there, despite the abatement water feature.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (3uBP9)
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310 This fountainside brunette hopes she's more acceptable to you lot:
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix
This radical queer doesn't CARE what you think, because xe's living xer best life! (But secretly wants to make all the normies mad, and their kids queer)
https://shorturl.at/O9rmX
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix
This radical queer doesn't CARE what you think, because xe's living xer best life! (But secretly wants to make all the normies mad, and their kids queer)
https://shorturl.at/O9rmX
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 24, 2025 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
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I heard Naked Pickleball attendance is sagging.
Posted by: fd at November 24, 2025 12:00 PM (vFG9F)
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Pickleball, I'm not going to knock anything that has people out moving and getting exercise.
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what if it looks silly
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (AOsQT)
The guy in the Art Thread picture was sure getting exercise.
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what if it looks silly
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (AOsQT)
The guy in the Art Thread picture was sure getting exercise.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (npFr7)
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This radical queer doesn't CARE what you think, because xe's living xer best life! (But secretly wants to make all the normies mad, and their kids queer)
https://shorturl.at/O9rmX
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 24, 2025 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
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There's gotta be some sort of ditch-digging project for these people...
https://shorturl.at/O9rmX
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 24, 2025 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
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There's gotta be some sort of ditch-digging project for these people...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (0lawO)
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It would also help if we didn't have to play a game called Panera Roulette, where you guess which order they've fucked up when you open the bag at home. "Who had 'no bread'?" "Who knew they'd forget the soup?" "Who had 'substitute turkey on wheat for the Turkey Bravo they ordered?"
When it's a $5 Value Meal, it's no big whoop. But when you drop $60 for dinner for three because you just didn't want to cook on a Friday night, it's a tad more annoying.
When it's a $5 Value Meal, it's no big whoop. But when you drop $60 for dinner for three because you just didn't want to cook on a Friday night, it's a tad more annoying.
Posted by: red speck at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (Ve/HL)
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@ 312: How about something called "football", where the ball is touched by a foot maybe 15 or so times in an hour-long game?
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"Football" is descriptive. "Pickleball" is asshoe. It's all about the terminology and the mental picture(-s) it creates … 'pickleball' - Denken Sie an. I bet a lot of ortho docs are gonna retire early on 'pickleball' injury earnings …
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"Football" is descriptive. "Pickleball" is asshoe. It's all about the terminology and the mental picture(-s) it creates … 'pickleball' - Denken Sie an. I bet a lot of ortho docs are gonna retire early on 'pickleball' injury earnings …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (ayRl+)
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>>>Phase one of Panera’s plan is to improve the quality of its food, reversing cost-cutting measures imposed in the face of high inflation, according to Carbone. “We squeezed food costs. We squeezed labor,” he said.
Dominos did this in a high-profile makeover after a slower descent into irrelevance (gave rise to Papa John's in that timeline as I recall). The makeover went well, the product improved, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth, wondering if you're going to get the crap pizza once again that was prevalent after their slide from a top delivery pizza joint.
Dominos did this in a high-profile makeover after a slower descent into irrelevance (gave rise to Papa John's in that timeline as I recall). The makeover went well, the product improved, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth, wondering if you're going to get the crap pizza once again that was prevalent after their slide from a top delivery pizza joint.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)
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326 This radical queer doesn't CARE what you think, because xe's living xer best life! (But secretly wants to make all the normies mad, and their kids queer)
https://shorturl.at/O9rmX
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 24, 2025 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
Somehow, I don't think it's a secret that they want to make normies mad.
https://shorturl.at/O9rmX
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 24, 2025 12:00 PM (JCZqz)
Somehow, I don't think it's a secret that they want to make normies mad.
Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (UnA8+)
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So, I was thinking that since AA explicitly called out the link as horrid it would be a reverse switcheroo hottie. I think a lot of stupid things actually.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (3uBP9)
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Stop the hammering!!!!
- Lawrence O'Donnell
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (kgE5c)
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Heh.
Brings back memories of Dan Rather and "What's The Frequency, Kenneth?"
- Lawrence O'Donnell
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 24, 2025 11:55 AM (kgE5c)
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Heh.
Brings back memories of Dan Rather and "What's The Frequency, Kenneth?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (cTD1V)
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Dominos did this in a high-profile makeover after a slower descent into irrelevance (gave rise to Papa John's in that timeline as I recall). The makeover went well, the product improved, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth, wondering if you're going to get the crap pizza once again that was prevalent after their slide from a top delivery pizza joint.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)
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Let this be a lesson to us all: NEVER fail to avoid the Noid. Not even once.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)
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Let this be a lesson to us all: NEVER fail to avoid the Noid. Not even once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (0lawO)
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Don Black, a matter of perspective. I find a 300lb person silly.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (sDNVV)
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If you’re concerned about 6:5 vs 3:2 you’re probably not someone Las Vegas wants visiting in the first place .
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (HW6XE)
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This fountainside brunette hopes she's more acceptable to you lot:
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (0lawO)
Is that dress blue, black, and pink? Or red, green, and gold?
She's just trying to confuse the internet.
WNB.
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:56 AM (0lawO)
Is that dress blue, black, and pink? Or red, green, and gold?
She's just trying to confuse the internet.
WNB.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (pmsro)
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There are a lot of things the popularity of which I don't understand. Pickleball is one of them. But if people like it, and want to play it, and it's getting them outside and some exercise, then go for it. I don't have to like what others like or vice versa.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/)
341
That pickleball looks like a crazy sport. The shape of the pickle means that you never know which way it might bounce.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (0U5gm)
342
This is the problem with reading the Food Thread. One develops the cooking skills to satisfy more sophisticated tastes, and the same old slop simply won't do anymore.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
Bingo.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
Bingo.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (/HDaX)
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This fountainside brunette hopes she's more acceptable to you lot:
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I'd play pickle ball with her.
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I'd play pickle ball with her.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (xvV+O)
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"Pickleball, I'm not going to knock anything that has people out moving and getting exercise.
Posted by: Ben Had"
Bar hopping qualifies if you walk, right?
Posted by: Ben Had"
Bar hopping qualifies if you walk, right?
Posted by: Ripley at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (GUOwU)
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So, I was thinking that since AA explicitly called out the link as horrid it would be a reverse switcheroo hottie. I think a lot of stupid things actually.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (3uBP9)
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It's ALWAYS a trap!
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (3uBP9)
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It's ALWAYS a trap!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (4S2yc)
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I'm coming around to the notion that private equity firms should be subject to the same reporting and disclosure requirements as any publicly traded firm if they purchase shares of any publicly traded firm.
But also, there needs to be aggressive monopoly enforcement.
And also, make stock buy-backs illegal again.
All of these have led to lower quality products and services to chase short-term gains to inflate stock value in order to provide exit liquidity for insiders.
But also, there needs to be aggressive monopoly enforcement.
And also, make stock buy-backs illegal again.
All of these have led to lower quality products and services to chase short-term gains to inflate stock value in order to provide exit liquidity for insiders.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (VlU/R)
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Fuck Around Find Out.
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
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317
‘ In the sense of "content filter" (e.g., 'filter out pickleball content so you don't see it')’
Definitely this one.
‘ In the sense of "content filter" (e.g., 'filter out pickleball content so you don't see it')’
Definitely this one.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (jbnUc)
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Bar hopping qualifies if you walk, right?
Posted by: Ripley at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (GUOwU)
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Or crawl.
"You think these are cufflinks? These are curb feelers! That's how I get around!"
-- Dean Martin (IIRC, coulda been Sinatra)
Posted by: Ripley at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (GUOwU)
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Or crawl.
"You think these are cufflinks? These are curb feelers! That's how I get around!"
-- Dean Martin (IIRC, coulda been Sinatra)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (0lawO)
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That pickleball looks like a crazy sport. The shape of the pickle means that you never know which way it might bounce.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (0U5gm)
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Sounds like playing KONG with my dogs. Some hilarious stuff they do playing KONG.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 24, 2025 12:03 PM (0U5gm)
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Sounds like playing KONG with my dogs. Some hilarious stuff they do playing KONG.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (xvV+O)
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Good lord, her upper body must have also been photo-shopped onto those legs! Those legs are TWICE as wide as what belongs on a gal of her size.
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (TN0g+)
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Maybe the daughter of Earl Campbell?
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 11:53 AM (TN0g+)
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Maybe the daughter of Earl Campbell?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (cTD1V)
352
As far as Japan goes, the cultural differences really are the basis of the business differences. Quality - say, in a grocery store setting - in Japan is far different than here. Check out the produce at a Dean & Deluca (do they have produce?) or some other outfit of that expensive premium category in the US - that's the norm in all Japanese stores. Cosmetic perfection is the norm.
Japanese generally when they adopt foreign stuff (which they do, a lot) pick the very top of the quality ladder. A friend worked at the big duty free & brand management company for a while (DFHS?). He said the quarterly forecast was sort of just a function of the Japanese travel forecast (Japanese traveling outside). Italian food in Japan is upscale northern Italian. Chocolate is the best Belgian or French style.
Anyway Japanese consumers and culture drive a very different corporate approach.
Japanese generally when they adopt foreign stuff (which they do, a lot) pick the very top of the quality ladder. A friend worked at the big duty free & brand management company for a while (DFHS?). He said the quarterly forecast was sort of just a function of the Japanese travel forecast (Japanese traveling outside). Italian food in Japan is upscale northern Italian. Chocolate is the best Belgian or French style.
Anyway Japanese consumers and culture drive a very different corporate approach.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (U/Byj)
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Fountain Fran at least doesn't look like her body is photoshopped in some way. although she looks slightly fed up.
And for ladies, smiling shirtless Pete Hegseth. I don't think the rest of the male cabinet members have pictures shirtless in swim trunks. Sorry.
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
And for ladies, smiling shirtless Pete Hegseth. I don't think the rest of the male cabinet members have pictures shirtless in swim trunks. Sorry.
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (2sfNr)
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Fuck Around Find Out.
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
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Good. Fuck that cocksucker.
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
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Good. Fuck that cocksucker.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (iFTx/)
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They dialed their changes in way too far, and are now attempting to dial it back and give the impression they're going to dial it right back to exactly where things were before.
They're lying. They'll set things to "slightly less worse" than it is now, and try to make themselves look like heroes.
Some customers will fall for it. A lot won't.
I'm like that with most restaurants and fast food chains. I won't even go in there because the prices are egregiously high compared to where they were just a few years ago. This isn't inflation, it's downright gouging. I have a long memory. I know what I used to pay and what the portion sizes were.
There are still a few family run places that offer decent prices for getting some take-out. Those places now get what dollars I have left budgeted for the treat of having someone else prepare some food for me or my family.
The ones that chose to try to screw everyone over and continue to do so? Let them eat ashes.
They're lying. They'll set things to "slightly less worse" than it is now, and try to make themselves look like heroes.
Some customers will fall for it. A lot won't.
I'm like that with most restaurants and fast food chains. I won't even go in there because the prices are egregiously high compared to where they were just a few years ago. This isn't inflation, it's downright gouging. I have a long memory. I know what I used to pay and what the portion sizes were.
There are still a few family run places that offer decent prices for getting some take-out. Those places now get what dollars I have left budgeted for the treat of having someone else prepare some food for me or my family.
The ones that chose to try to screw everyone over and continue to do so? Let them eat ashes.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (O7YUW)
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Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (3uBP9)
Heh! Back in the day when I played regularly and was in the Corps, the worst beating I ever took on the racquetball court was from a 270+ lb fat guy who smoked like a chimney. That guy could cover the court from any location in just a couple of strides and hit the most amazing kill shots from just about any location. Mostly roll outs but some that crossed at the front of the court instead of coming back.
Heh! Back in the day when I played regularly and was in the Corps, the worst beating I ever took on the racquetball court was from a 270+ lb fat guy who smoked like a chimney. That guy could cover the court from any location in just a couple of strides and hit the most amazing kill shots from just about any location. Mostly roll outs but some that crossed at the front of the court instead of coming back.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (luW68)
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312: How about something called "football", where the ball is touched by a foot maybe 15 or so times in an hour-long game?
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/
dZ4QFeeTeR0
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/
dZ4QFeeTeR0
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (HW6XE)
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327 >>>I heard Naked Pickleball attendance is sagging.
Maybe they said pickleball *attendees* are sagging.
Actually, we just had a corporate outing at a pickleball place that started up in a warehouse less than a year ago. The owner was hyping it up pretty hard, but the place was full on a Tuesday night -- mostly kids from a local college. And he said they'd just hosted a tournament from multiple colleges in neighboring states. Not even a NCAA thing; just enthusiasts.
And I thought it was just tennis for AARP members. But it was pretty fun.
Maybe they said pickleball *attendees* are sagging.
Actually, we just had a corporate outing at a pickleball place that started up in a warehouse less than a year ago. The owner was hyping it up pretty hard, but the place was full on a Tuesday night -- mostly kids from a local college. And he said they'd just hosted a tournament from multiple colleges in neighboring states. Not even a NCAA thing; just enthusiasts.
And I thought it was just tennis for AARP members. But it was pretty fun.
Posted by: red speck at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (Ve/HL)
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And if they renamed it "Badass Marine Deathball"?
Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (UnA8+)
Sign me up!!
Posted by: XTC at November 24, 2025 11:58 AM (UnA8+)
Sign me up!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (WnEm5)
360
Fuck Around Find Out.
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
It moved.
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
It moved.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (snZF9)
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I used to eat a lot of Panera. I left because of their Obama boosterism ~2011. I wasn't there for their shrinkflation and general shittification but, I suppose, the signs were there.
The upper middle class twits kept going to Panera because they're fellow Good People and if you don't go, you're a chud.
The upper middle class twits kept going to Panera because they're fellow Good People and if you don't go, you're a chud.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (gKWVE)
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And for ladies, smiling shirtless Pete Hegseth. I don't think the rest of the male cabinet members have pictures shirtless in swim trunks. Sorry.
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
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Uhhh, might wanna check that link LOL
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
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Uhhh, might wanna check that link LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (0lawO)
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Bar hopping qualifies if you walk, right?
Posted by: Ripley
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Never called it "bar hopping." Preferred a more reality based "The Bar Crawl."
Posted by: Ripley
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Never called it "bar hopping." Preferred a more reality based "The Bar Crawl."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (xvV+O)
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This fountainside brunette hopes she's more acceptable to you lot:
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Remember when saying something about a chick looked fake meant silicone, not silicon? Good times, good times...
http://tiny.cc/ipjv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Remember when saying something about a chick looked fake meant silicone, not silicon? Good times, good times...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (OUMaO)
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OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.).
Is this about the Senator from Arizona?
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.).
Is this about the Senator from Arizona?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
366
It's past noon. Did anyone wake the boss up?
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (+Rs+1)
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Remember when saying something about a chick looked fake meant silicone, not silicon? Good times, good times...
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (OUMaO)
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:: Furiously taking notes ::
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (OUMaO)
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:: Furiously taking notes ::
Posted by: The Next Jerry Seinfeld at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (0lawO)
368
Good. Fuck that cocksucker.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (iFTx/)
I assume this is over the stupid vanity video they put out last week. Their version of the "Imagine" video all the douchebag celebs put out during Covid.
Honestly, in spite of Trump's hyperbolic reaction, I fail to see how they did anything illegal.
Hell, Trump's own Defense Sec bragged about defying Trump's orders in his first term. Nobody went after him.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 12:05 PM (iFTx/)
I assume this is over the stupid vanity video they put out last week. Their version of the "Imagine" video all the douchebag celebs put out during Covid.
Honestly, in spite of Trump's hyperbolic reaction, I fail to see how they did anything illegal.
Hell, Trump's own Defense Sec bragged about defying Trump's orders in his first term. Nobody went after him.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (pmsro)
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347
‘ This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.’
DO it!
Bring this bald bastard up on charges. Make it public. Make them accountable for once.
‘ This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.’
DO it!
Bring this bald bastard up on charges. Make it public. Make them accountable for once.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (jbnUc)
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I'd be willing to pay more to these greedy fucks if all of their female employees were naked showgirls.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (WFC1M)
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bedroom blonde used to hang out at the Aria back when prospects were better:
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She's shopped into that background, but ... TBWB.
Posted by: Elric The Blade a
Her right thigh looks enormous
http://tiny.cc/zojv001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 11:47 AM (0lawO)
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She's shopped into that background, but ... TBWB.
Posted by: Elric The Blade a
Her right thigh looks enormous
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (JkCto)
372
Raise your hand if you think the Insurrection Video Six will suffer ANY consequences
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (AOsQT)
373
Local diner gives you a decent breakfast for $14. Huge omelet, pancakes, and hash browns
Back in college days I'd get "Two eggs , toast , butter and jelly" for fifty seven cents
Back in college days I'd get "Two eggs , toast , butter and jelly" for fifty seven cents
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 24, 2025 12:09 PM (R0wwO)
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I'd be willing to pay more to these greedy fucks if all of their female employees were naked showgirls.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (WFC1M)
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Can't do that. Such an action would not be beneficial to the general goal of defeating the Male Gaze!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 24, 2025 12:08 PM (WFC1M)
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Can't do that. Such an action would not be beneficial to the general goal of defeating the Male Gaze!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:09 PM (0lawO)
375
George Carlin did an awesome comparison of football and baseball…. If he were still with us I’d pay good money to hear his bit on pickleball. It’d be gold Jerry… gold!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 12:09 PM (WnEm5)
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Thanks for the correction, Joe Mannix
Hopefully this is Pete Hegseth:
https://tinyurl.com/4jeswk8f
Hopefully this is Pete Hegseth:
https://tinyurl.com/4jeswk8f
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:09 PM (2sfNr)
377
Is this about the Senator from Arizona?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
Senator Penis Head. Yes.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
Senator Penis Head. Yes.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (pmsro)
378
>>Pentagon:
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
lol
OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:04 PM (viF8m)
lol
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (dK+Kv)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (viF8m)
380
>Never called it "bar hopping." Preferred a more reality based "The Bar Crawl."
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Hospitality survey
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Hospitality survey
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (AOsQT)
381
You can buy pickled bull testicles.
Posted by: thug dolphin at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (EyfuW)
382
I was watching a screen at a bar sometime when no normal sports were playing. It was some college level final match and it was an outlandish thing. It was coed, and they all had to run with poles between their legs. There was throwing and some type of hoop. It was a hairy potter mfing game! They are doing it for real and televising it. I hope they can drink.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (3uBP9)
383
Panera is planning to
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This is corporate lie-speak.
The only smart think I ever heard Mark Cuban say was, "plans without deadlines are just dreams."
What is this deadline? How much? What will be the metrics?
Compare to the corporations announcements of DEI implementation--stuff they really, really want:
"50% of our new hires by 2025 will be minorities."
Clear, unequivocal and measurable.
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This is corporate lie-speak.
The only smart think I ever heard Mark Cuban say was, "plans without deadlines are just dreams."
What is this deadline? How much? What will be the metrics?
Compare to the corporations announcements of DEI implementation--stuff they really, really want:
"50% of our new hires by 2025 will be minorities."
Clear, unequivocal and measurable.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (VlU/R)
384
I don't want any nude people serving food in restaurants .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (2sfNr)
385
Dominos did this in a high-profile makeover after a slower descent into irrelevance (gave rise to Papa John's in that timeline as I recall). The makeover went well, the product improved, but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth, wondering if you're going to get the crap pizza once again that was prevalent after their slide from a top delivery pizza joint.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)
A pattern I noticed since the carter years, and also since I'm a pizza gavone, is that pizza seems to be an indicator of how the economy is doing. Every time the economy starts going to shit, so goes the pizza. They get smaller and thinner. Where they used to almost have to be jammed into the box to fit, now they rattle in the box. Its like the first casualty is the dough, they start using less of it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:01 PM (dK+Kv)
A pattern I noticed since the carter years, and also since I'm a pizza gavone, is that pizza seems to be an indicator of how the economy is doing. Every time the economy starts going to shit, so goes the pizza. They get smaller and thinner. Where they used to almost have to be jammed into the box to fit, now they rattle in the box. Its like the first casualty is the dough, they start using less of it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (snZF9)
386
Funny, I had stopped going to MGM Resorts and Panera Bread ever since COVID. Hadn't gone back, looks like I dodged a bullet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (xcxpd)
387
Only an economic illiterate talks about price gouging.
Posted by: Cow Demon
It is price gouging. An economic illiterate might propose laws banning it, but $26 for a bottle of water is by definition price gouging. I might buy it the one time because I'm too sick or hungover to leave my room and walk to the vending machine where it is only $3, but I'll be damn sure it's "one time" to the point of never returning to the seller's establishment.
Congratulations Mr. MBA, you made a profit of $25 on a bottle of water in exchange for all of the other profit you may have made on me in my lifetime. Enjoy your bonus.
Posted by: Cow Demon
It is price gouging. An economic illiterate might propose laws banning it, but $26 for a bottle of water is by definition price gouging. I might buy it the one time because I'm too sick or hungover to leave my room and walk to the vending machine where it is only $3, but I'll be damn sure it's "one time" to the point of never returning to the seller's establishment.
Congratulations Mr. MBA, you made a profit of $25 on a bottle of water in exchange for all of the other profit you may have made on me in my lifetime. Enjoy your bonus.
Posted by: Chuck C at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (D0HYP)
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324 >Pickleball, I'm not going to knock anything that has people out moving and getting exercise.
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what if it looks silly
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (AOsQT)
I'm looking at you, ThighMaster!
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what if it looks silly
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 11:59 AM (AOsQT)
I'm looking at you, ThighMaster!
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (0CU3H)
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338 If you’re concerned about 6:5 vs 3:2 you’re probably not someone Las Vegas wants visiting in the first place .
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (HW6XE)
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6:5 BJ is bad enough, now let's talk about triple-zero roulette.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (HW6XE)
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6:5 BJ is bad enough, now let's talk about triple-zero roulette.
Posted by: ballistic at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (5aZAZ)
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Football the sport where kickers are an afterthought, 95% of the plays don’t involve kicking, yet many games end up won or lost last second on a kick.
Gotta love it.
Gotta love it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (HW6XE)
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>>I assume this is over the stupid vanity video they put out last week. Their version of the "Imagine" video all the douchebag celebs put out during Covid.
Color Revolution.
Color Revolution.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (viF8m)
392
So I'm gonna be forced to actually look at the idiotic group statement from the Dem losers? Hard to believe it wasn't couched in terms that are UCMJ-compliant, then again they are not bright people. Easy to phrase things to excite their brain-dead base (who know nothing of the actual rules in the UCMJ) but stay well within the lines. But a degraded dumbed-down country produces incredibly stupid "elites", as we know.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (U/Byj)
393
>>> You can buy pickled bull testicles.
Posted by: thug dolphin at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (EyfuW)
I have a formal agreement with all animals of the world. I don't eat their nards and they don't eat mine.
Posted by: thug dolphin at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (EyfuW)
I have a formal agreement with all animals of the world. I don't eat their nards and they don't eat mine.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (3uBP9)
394
Is this all of a piece with the enshittification of everything? Seems like it.
Posted by: Shit products + poor wages = C-Suite bonuses at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (TbWk/)
395
362
‘ I don't think the rest of the male cabinet members have pictures shirtless in swim trunks. Sorry.
Uhhh, might wanna check that link LOL’
Fenelon Spoke, I am very disappointed in you. Did you really think this site needed more smut?
‘ I don't think the rest of the male cabinet members have pictures shirtless in swim trunks. Sorry.
Uhhh, might wanna check that link LOL’
Fenelon Spoke, I am very disappointed in you. Did you really think this site needed more smut?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (jbnUc)
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>Never called it "bar hopping." Preferred a more reality based "The Bar Crawl."
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Hospitality survey
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (AOsQT)
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From Publick Houses to Geisha Houses: A comparative anthropological assessment of drinking culture and customs across the northern hemisphere, contextualized through comparative analysis of Euro-Japanese customs with addenda from the Global South
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Hospitality survey
Posted by: Don Black at November 24, 2025 12:10 PM (AOsQT)
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From Publick Houses to Geisha Houses: A comparative anthropological assessment of drinking culture and customs across the northern hemisphere, contextualized through comparative analysis of Euro-Japanese customs with addenda from the Global South
Posted by: Drinking on the Grant's Dime at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (0lawO)
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Uhhh, might wanna check that link LOL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (0lawO)
She's a secret admirer of your links. It is not the first time this has happened.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 24, 2025 12:06 PM (0lawO)
She's a secret admirer of your links. It is not the first time this has happened.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (dK+Kv)
398
I don't want any nude people serving food in restaurants .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (2sfNr)
Quite sensible!! The reality of nude waitresses would probably be similar to the revolting reality of nude beaches….
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (2sfNr)
Quite sensible!! The reality of nude waitresses would probably be similar to the revolting reality of nude beaches….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (+kWhq)
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I'm looking at you, ThighMaster!
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (0CU3H)
Shake weight.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (0CU3H)
Shake weight.
Posted by: Reforger at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (+Rs+1)
400
The complaints about Las Vegas sound a lot like why can’t a BMW cost what a Kia costs?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (HW6XE)
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Fenelon Spoke, I am very disappointed in you. Did you really think this site needed more smut?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (jbnUc)
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It absolutely needs more smut for the 'Ettes.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (jbnUc)
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It absolutely needs more smut for the 'Ettes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (DRSnL)
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> OFFICIAL STATEMENT: The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.)....
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He's not the only retired military member of the latest insurrection bid, is he?
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He's not the only retired military member of the latest insurrection bid, is he?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (NwnyJ)
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NOOD
Ace is up: MAGA Grifter Majorie Taylor Greene to Resign Mid-Term, Imperiling Republican Majority
NOOD!
NOOD
Ace is up: MAGA Grifter Majorie Taylor Greene to Resign Mid-Term, Imperiling Republican Majority
NOOD!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 24, 2025 12:14 PM (O7YUW)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 24, 2025 12:14 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:14 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 24, 2025 12:14 PM (VlU/R)
407
368
‘ Honestly, in spite of Trump's hyperbolic reaction, I fail to see how they did anything illegal.’
Good thing you’re not deciding then.
‘ Honestly, in spite of Trump's hyperbolic reaction, I fail to see how they did anything illegal.’
Good thing you’re not deciding then.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 24, 2025 12:14 PM (jbnUc)
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>>He's not the only retired military member of the latest insurrection bid, is he?
All of them are former military or CIA. And nobody retires from the CIA.
All of them are former military or CIA. And nobody retires from the CIA.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2025 12:14 PM (viF8m)
409
If you’re concerned about 6:5 vs 3:2 you’re probably not someone Las Vegas wants visiting in the first place .
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (HW6XE)
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6:5 BJ is bad enough, now let's talk about triple-zero roulette.
Posted by: ballistic at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (5aZAZ)
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Yet, people are still playing the games ....
The vast majority of gamblers have no idea how to play the games and no idea what rules changes like triple-zero even mean. My game is BJ. I play it perfectly and usually walk away a winner. But the hands I've seen played by people who supposedly gamble a lot? Holy shit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 24, 2025 12:02 PM (HW6XE)
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6:5 BJ is bad enough, now let's talk about triple-zero roulette.
Posted by: ballistic at November 24, 2025 12:11 PM (5aZAZ)
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Yet, people are still playing the games ....
The vast majority of gamblers have no idea how to play the games and no idea what rules changes like triple-zero even mean. My game is BJ. I play it perfectly and usually walk away a winner. But the hands I've seen played by people who supposedly gamble a lot? Holy shit.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (iFTx/)
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I have a formal agreement with all animals of the world. I don't eat their nards and they don't eat mine.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (3uBP9)
Wasn't that passed down in the Code of Hammurabi or something?
Posted by: banana Dream at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (3uBP9)
Wasn't that passed down in the Code of Hammurabi or something?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (dK+Kv)
411
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM (dK+Kv)
I do look at them. Mostly to see how badly they're photoshopped. AI is not doing its best work here .
I do look at them. Mostly to see how badly they're photoshopped. AI is not doing its best work here .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (2sfNr)
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394 Is this all of a piece with the enshittification of everything? Seems like it.
Posted by: Shit products + poor wages = C-Suite bonuses at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM
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Not unlike Amazon:
https://youtu.be/rBVkr4Rrk70
394 Is this all of a piece with the enshittification of everything? Seems like it.
Posted by: Shit products + poor wages = C-Suite bonuses at November 24, 2025 12:12 PM
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Not unlike Amazon:
https://youtu.be/rBVkr4Rrk70
Posted by: Just the punchline at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (QwTID)
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Hadn't been in a Panera Bread in a LONG time. Decided to go there a couple of months ago - the change was shocking, to say the least. Used to be bread products as far as the eye could see, along with a pretty impressive offering of sandwiches and soups, along with lots of staff working.
This time, no visible staff, no bread products, and a very skimpy choice of menu items, all at outrageous prices.
I won't be going back.
La Madeleine's restaurant has changed, too - not for the better.
This time, no visible staff, no bread products, and a very skimpy choice of menu items, all at outrageous prices.
I won't be going back.
La Madeleine's restaurant has changed, too - not for the better.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (SRRAx)
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And also, make stock buy-backs illegal again.
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Could someone educate me as to why stock buy-backs are "bad" and if its true that they were once "illegal"?
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Could someone educate me as to why stock buy-backs are "bad" and if its true that they were once "illegal"?
Posted by: Crusader at November 24, 2025 12:16 PM (TN0g+)
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Is this about the Senator from Arizona?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
The wife beater?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 24, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
The wife beater?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 24, 2025 12:17 PM (npFr7)
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Wife and I go to Vegas 2-3 times a year usually 6 or 7 days at a time. We bring our own coffee pot and bagels for the week. Last day I had to get a 12 Oz coffee, 16 Oz coffee and 2 bagels in the casino. $34.00.
They are shooting themselves in the foot. Been going to Vegas over 30 years. While there's no place like Vegas, there are plenty of less expensive options if you gamble.
They are shooting themselves in the foot. Been going to Vegas over 30 years. While there's no place like Vegas, there are plenty of less expensive options if you gamble.
Posted by: Lars at November 24, 2025 12:18 PM (kJH1Z)
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It absolutely needs more smut for the 'Ettes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (
LOL, maybe you can provide some male hotties, Jordan because Pete Hegseth is all I can manage to find or want to..
I don't really think he qualifies as smut and neither did Fountain Fran.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 24, 2025 12:13 PM (
LOL, maybe you can provide some male hotties, Jordan because Pete Hegseth is all I can manage to find or want to..
I don't really think he qualifies as smut and neither did Fountain Fran.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2025 12:18 PM (2sfNr)
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I like Panera for the atmosphere and free WiFi. You can sit there as long as you like. For $79 a year you can get unlimited coffee. It can be a second office.
I don't really need their food.
I don't really need their food.
Posted by: But that's just me at November 24, 2025 12:20 PM (QwTID)
419
La Madeleine's restaurant has changed, too - not for the better.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (SRRAx)
The one I used to go to had the best coffee I've ever had .
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 24, 2025 12:15 PM (SRRAx)
The one I used to go to had the best coffee I've ever had .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 24, 2025 12:22 PM (KDPiq)
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Last visit to McCarren (Harry Reid *spit*) I brought some quarters to play a few slots on arrival, and they were all electronic now - no coins that I saw. Obviously had not been there in a long time.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at November 24, 2025 12:24 PM (pZ64F)
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"I can't think of a new standard American restaurants"
Here in California, we have two new chains:
The Melt - grilled cheese sandwiches. You can eat for under $10.
Mendocino Farms - heathy-ish sandwiches that are solid.
Here in California, we have two new chains:
The Melt - grilled cheese sandwiches. You can eat for under $10.
Mendocino Farms - heathy-ish sandwiches that are solid.
Posted by: coba at November 24, 2025 12:29 PM (IuIym)
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All Panera has to do is fire the CEO and bring back the thumbprint cookies that sold out as soon as they were stocked. In fact they could probably keep the incompetent ceo and just sell nothing but thumbprint cookies all day and be back in business.
It’s always weird how you know someone looked at the spreadsheet and said I know let’s drop the most amazing product we make and make a lot more of our less amazing products and that will increase profits instead of lets increase the price of our most amazing product until we find the pain price point and then do that. Cause they could have doubled the price on that cookie and it would have still sold. I bet you could look at their sales and trace the decline straight to that decision.
It’s always weird how you know someone looked at the spreadsheet and said I know let’s drop the most amazing product we make and make a lot more of our less amazing products and that will increase profits instead of lets increase the price of our most amazing product until we find the pain price point and then do that. Cause they could have doubled the price on that cookie and it would have still sold. I bet you could look at their sales and trace the decline straight to that decision.
Posted by: 42 at November 24, 2025 12:40 PM (+xVqp)
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It is price gouging. An economic illiterate might propose laws banning it, but $26 for a bottle of water is by definition price gouging. I might buy it the one time because I'm too sick or hungover to leave my room and walk to the vending machine where it is only $3, but I'll be damn sure it's "one time" to the point of never returning to the seller's establishment.
Congratulations, you are an economic illiterate. I’d translate Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest for you but you have made clear that you would go out of your way to refuse to understand it in English.
Maybe you want a country where prices are set by the police?
Congratulations, you are an economic illiterate. I’d translate Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest for you but you have made clear that you would go out of your way to refuse to understand it in English.
Maybe you want a country where prices are set by the police?
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 24, 2025 12:45 PM (6KcYW)
424
Marriott Hotels used to charge extra for WiFi. On top of that, they blocked the ability for a guest to use their own smart-phone WiFi.
I don't know if Marriott still does that; I don't care. They lost me forever.
I don't know if Marriott still does that; I don't care. They lost me forever.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 24, 2025 12:52 PM (bufu1)
425
“In some instances, we shrunk portions, so guests would walk into our cafe to buy a sandwich that has gone up significantly in price, with lower-quality ingredients, in a smaller size,” Carbone said.
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Fucking idiot banker mentality ruins companies. I've seen it firsthand.
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Fucking idiot banker mentality ruins companies. I've seen it firsthand.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 24, 2025 01:05 PM (NtVYv)
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These MBA types are about to learn one more lesson: It is cheaper to keep an existing customer than it is to acquire a new one.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
Note to churches who proselytize:
These MBA types are about to learn one more lesson: It is cheaper to keep an existing customer than it is to acquire a new one.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
See the parables of:
the lost sheep, the prodigal son, and the widow who lost a coin..
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
Note to churches who proselytize:
These MBA types are about to learn one more lesson: It is cheaper to keep an existing customer than it is to acquire a new one.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 24, 2025 11:15 AM (N39Ws)
See the parables of:
the lost sheep, the prodigal son, and the widow who lost a coin..
Posted by: waepnedmann at November 24, 2025 01:06 PM (WCVjf)
427
Let me tell you the story of how IHOP turned off this loyal customer for 50 years in just two visits.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (9ipOP)
I can beat that. I went to an IHOP in the Lake Tahoe area. Bit into my pancake and found a huge (about 1 1/2 to 2" long) piece of plastic (like from a broken plastic container) in the pancake. I told the waiter who just shrugged and the manager came over and basically said we're sorry, it won't happen again. Still wanted me to pay for the meal. I said Nah, good bye and walked out. I will never return to IHOP.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 24, 2025 11:08 AM (9ipOP)
I can beat that. I went to an IHOP in the Lake Tahoe area. Bit into my pancake and found a huge (about 1 1/2 to 2" long) piece of plastic (like from a broken plastic container) in the pancake. I told the waiter who just shrugged and the manager came over and basically said we're sorry, it won't happen again. Still wanted me to pay for the meal. I said Nah, good bye and walked out. I will never return to IHOP.
Posted by: Mike B at November 24, 2025 01:28 PM (SMgCc)
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When they found Carbone in the meat truck, it took them three days to thaw him out for the autopsy.
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I was the senior director of field HR for Panera Bread before Covid hit and I moved on. Even by then, things were declining. They were sold to JAB (conglomerate that owns Keurig) and it was already declining before Covid. I'm glad I got out when I did. Kinda sad. I joined Panera in it's hey day, back in '06, when they could do no wrong. Ron Shaich sold the company to JAB and that was it. Everything went sideways.
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Disney is doing the same thing. And now they plan to introduce dynamic pricing to parks, and food and souvenirs in the parks. They're so eager to gouge their customers to juice their stock and pay down their $40 billion debt, they'll squeeze blood from a stone.
Universal will eat their lunch.
Universal will eat their lunch.
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All of Vegas has gone to expensive shit and visitors are finding other things to spend their entertainment money on. They're all charging $50/day "resort fees" on top of the advertised hotel rate. I haven't been there in ten years and it wasn't nearly as bad then.
Occupancy is way down.
Occupancy is way down.
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Panera used to have night/early morning bakers in every restaurant. They were managed regionally by baker-managers, and their job was just doing the baking.
So they fired all those people, and replaced them with a couple people in the morning warming up frozen dough from the factory. And now they just ship from the factory in the morning.
It's amazing how they missed the whole point of their own restaurant.
So they fired all those people, and replaced them with a couple people in the morning warming up frozen dough from the factory. And now they just ship from the factory in the morning.
It's amazing how they missed the whole point of their own restaurant.
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