Gun Thread: Fourth November Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Fourth November Edition?! Happy Thanksgiving, all y'all. Are all of your preparations for the big day in place? What are some of the things you're thankful for?

NOTE: I likely won't be around in the comments much tonight, so please do not burn the place down.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

With winter approaching, we may soon be chased indoors for range time.

and...

Fundamentals. Focus upon them.

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Best Use of 50 Rounds in Practice

With Lena Miculek. We've seen this before but it emphasizes practicing with a purpose.

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T20 Family

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Guns O' Norm

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Office Etiquette

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Highway Patrol!

This week's exciting episode: Stripped Cars!

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Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal rhomboid scores again with this excellent review of not one, not two, but three offerings from E.P. Carrillo's "Essence" series

Ernesto Perez Carrillo is one of the reigning master blenders in the cigar world. His company, recently renamed Casa Carrillo, is best known for its prestige lines that have claimed top honors on cigar rating lists - Pledge, Encore, Endure. But the company's Essence line, priced more affordably, is now a big part of their total line-up. I happened to try three of the four offerings in that line (didn't encounter the Connecticut), so here is a brief review of each.
The Essence Honduras is nearly a Honduran puro (there is some Nicaraguan filler) with a handsome chocolate brown wrapper. Upper end of medium-full in profile, with good construction, draw, and smoke volume. For me it was straight oak, earth, and leather all the way through - anyone who gravitates towards that profile would enjoy this stick.
The Maduro offering has a rustic dark Connecticut broadleaf wrapper, with Nicaraguan and Dominican filler aged 5 years. Construction and smoke were excellent. A solid medium in profile, it was more to the cedar than cocoa end of the maduro spectrum, but very tasty, with a very smooth finish with a hint of sweetness throughout.
The Sumatra stick has a medium profile from Nicaraguan and Honduran fillers (and binders) and an attractive light brown Ecuador Sumatra wrapper. Construction again was excellent. Throughout I got cedar and other woods, and rich tobacco flavors.
The robusto and toro vitolas in this line run from $6-$8 per stick. All three were quality offerings at this affordable price point.

Very nicely done, rhomboid! Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (0N4FZ)

2 HERE!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (jQtRE)

3 What could be more tasty than a trip to the range with a 1911 and 200 rds of 230 ball?

Posted by: Eromero at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

4 And thanks Weasel.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (0N4FZ)

5 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks to our (mostly absentee) host Weasel for the forum!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (v23vE)

6 Evening.

Posted by: scampydog at November 23, 2025 07:01 PM (41CYW)

7 EdL, my Python came in. Looks like the blemish is in the filled etching on the left side of the barrel. Maybe I can get to the range on Friday.

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 07:03 PM (bFn+/)

8 3 What could be more tasty than a trip to the range with a 1911 and 200 rds of 230 ball?
Posted by: Eromero at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

Uh, 400 rounds?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:04 PM (v23vE)

9 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

10 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at November 23, 2025 07:07 PM (sAmhv)

11 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:07 PM (BCwQW)

12 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2025 07:07 PM (+qU29)

13 Gobble gobble!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at November 23, 2025 07:08 PM (Ly5Qz)

14 Tis the Thanksgiving season and I want you all to know how thankful I am for having you in my life.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 23, 2025 07:09 PM (sDNVV)

15 Watching the Office Etiquette video, oh lord how things have changed.
I do not like the people I work with, I tolerate them.
And they do the same. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:09 PM (jQtRE)

16 Best line from tonight's Highway Patrol: "Sure, but everybody should have a hobby!"

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:10 PM (v23vE)

17 15 Watching the Office Etiquette video, oh lord how things have changed.
I do not like the people I work with, I tolerate them.
And they do the same. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:09 PM (jQtRE)

Scoob! How are you? Hope the new boss is not the same as the old boss.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:10 PM (v23vE)

18 Evening, Weasel!
I left al my combustibles behind. Your thread is safe.

Posted by: RI Red at November 23, 2025 07:12 PM (LMRVO)

19 "have you been to the range?"

Yes! Met my boys at the farm and shot #2 son's newly purchased Springfield rifle and #1 son's Colt 45 plus some other pistol plinking. A fine day.

Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:13 PM (vFG9F)

20 EdL, my Python came in. Looks like the blemish is in the filled etching on the left side of the barrel. Maybe I can get to the range on Friday.
Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 07:03 PM (bFn+/)

I hope it lives up to your reputation of the originals. I think it's most of the way there. I think the single action trigger is a bit heavier, but the double action trigger is smoother without the "stacking" of the originals. If you don't care for the grips, you can swap them out with the originals. I prefer rubber for the .357 Magnum loads myself. Considering that the new production ones are half the cost of the originals, I think it's a good buy. Note that the insides of the modern ones are completely different from that of the originals. No interchangeable parts on inside.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:13 PM (BCwQW)

21 17 Hope the new boss is not the same as the old boss.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:10 PM

I am doing good thank you. Had the meet and greet on Monday and found out there will be tension between us as he is a Jet fan and I am a Dolphins fan. LOL

No, he seems like a decent person. Time will tell.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:14 PM (jQtRE)

22 Good evening to all the GunHorde and thank you as always to Weasel. Great content as always and a Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Posted by: Coelacanth at November 23, 2025 07:14 PM (cIOlQ)

23 Ben Had, I marvel at how you put up with all of us.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:14 PM (BCwQW)

24 Ed L you are the family I choose to have.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 23, 2025 07:16 PM (sDNVV)

25 What could be more tasty than a trip to the range with a 1911 and 200 rds of 230 ball?
Posted by: Eromero at November 23, 2025 07:00 PM (LHPAg)

Eromero, last week I loaded up a bunch of 200 g. Semi Wadcutters.
Just waiting for the temp to get to 40.
Maybe April.

Posted by: RI Red at November 23, 2025 07:16 PM (LMRVO)

26 16 Best line from tonight's Highway Patrol: "Sure, but everybody should have a hobby!"

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:10 PM
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[scribbles notes for the Hobby Thread]

Posted by: TRex -hobbying dino at November 23, 2025 07:16 PM (IQ6Gq)

27 This week at work they wanted us to get to "know" our co-workers more and listing 3 of our hobbies so as we could somehow gel as a group.
Reminder, these are co-workers here in the US and also France and Portugal.
So I put down the 3 things I enjoy doing the most:

Golf
Scuba Diving
Shooting

I wonder if I might get a little talking to about my choices. ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:18 PM (jQtRE)

28 #2 son says my Ruger P95 trigger is light compared to his Glock. I said yeah.

Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:19 PM (vFG9F)

29 Hey, how come you never highlight Swisher Sweets? Those are pretty good until you light 'em up.

Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:19 PM (mADJX)

30 {{ Ben Had }}

Posted by: Oddbob at November 23, 2025 07:21 PM (3nLb4)

31 Afternoon, Gun Thread folks. Successful cable splice completed.
No gub stuff to report this week.

A light dusting of snow feel this afternoon. Grrr!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 07:23 PM (npFr7)

32 So I put down the 3 things I enjoy doing the most:

Golf
Scuba Diving
Shooting

I wonder if I might get a little talking to about my choices. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:18 PM (jQtRE)

Sex
Drugs
Rock and Roll

Posted by: Ian Dury and the Blockheads at November 23, 2025 07:23 PM (8QVSJ)

33 Golf
Scuba Diving
Shooting

I wonder if I might get a little talking to about my choices. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:18 PM (jQtRE)

If so, just claim (rightly) that you are a Renaissance man.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:23 PM (v23vE)

34 I wonder if I might get a little talking to about my choices. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:18 PM (jQtRE)

Point out that shooting has been an Olympic sport for well over a century now. You're just a frustrated wannabe Olympic competitor.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:23 PM (BCwQW)

35 here is the most recent "sexy rifle I can never afford"

French MAS 8mm Lebel semi-automatic Model1918 with the starting bid of $7,500

https://tinyurl.com/myw5zdyv

Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2025 07:24 PM (rbvCR)

36 Since every generation has its own historic women, I suppose each one has its own planet of prehistoric women.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:24 PM (0sNs1)

37 Hey, how come you never highlight Swisher Sweets? Those are pretty good until you light 'em up.
Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:19 PM (mADJX)

Everybody knows that Weasel is a White Owl kind of guy.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 07:25 PM (8QVSJ)

38 34 You're just a frustrated wannabe Olympic competitor.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:23 PM

I like that one. I will also mention there is nothing like hearing steel ringing a thousand or more yards away. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:25 PM (jQtRE)

39 No range notes this week. Scope is still back ordered. I took the week off, so I might hit the range tomorrow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:26 PM (Wnv9h)

40 Hey, how come you never highlight Swisher Sweets?
Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:19 PM

This is a question that has been asked before, but for some reason seems to be met with varying degrees of disdainment.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:26 PM (0sNs1)

41 I like that one. I will also mention there is nothing like hearing steel ringing a thousand or more yards away. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:25 PM (jQtRE)

And the ping! of a Garand clip ejecting.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM (8QVSJ)

42 35 Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2025 07:24 PM

Oooooo, nice looking. I would bid but I have my eye on something else.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM (jQtRE)

43 here is the most recent "sexy rifle I can never afford"

French MAS 8mm Lebel semi-automatic Model1918 with the starting bid of $7,500

https://tinyurl.com/myw5zdyv

Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2025 07:24 PM

Is it sexy because it's never been fired, and only dropped once?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM (0sNs1)

44 7 EdL, my Python came in. Looks like the blemish is in the filled etching on the left side of the barrel. Maybe I can get to the range on Friday.

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 07:03 PM

Congrats on the new Python!

I am confident that any shots out of the bullseye will be solely due to the pull of that tiny bit of fill in the etching.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 23, 2025 07:28 PM (HlyYF)

45 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

New computer who dis?

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 07:30 PM (RoO7G)

46 And the ping! of a Garand clip ejecting.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM

Let's not forget the colorful vocal ejaculations that often follow the bolt slamming home on an errantly placed thumb.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:30 PM (0sNs1)

47 I've got a Colt Python manufactured decades ago, but, unfortunately, I don't dare shoot it. It is some kind of special edition my late father purchased, primarily because it commemorated the revenooers struggles against the moonshiners, all kinds of gold art work and such like. He was with the ATF before it ever became known as the ATF, and he was only involved in chasing bootleggers in North Carolina, never the firearms stuff. A beautiful gun, with a couple of his own personal modifications (he had his badge number engraved on the barrel, and he replaced the Colt medallion on one side of the grips with the dept logo from his badge). it's the only one in my collection I won't shoot. His EDC when he was a criminal investigator was, I believe, a Colt Cobra (or possibly a S&W Chief's Special; not sure).

Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:31 PM (mADJX)

48 At the WWl Museum in KC, I noticed the huge number of 8mm Europe was shooting.
Wha happened?

Posted by: MkY at November 23, 2025 07:31 PM (q6tQZ)

49 Maybe the Sig 320 story isn't as dead as we thought after the arrest of the airmen recently. What do you see going on in that video? To me, it looks an awful lot like the one of the cop getting kicked or jostled.

https://youtu.be/AmaEN_7C71A

Posted by: Oddbob at November 23, 2025 07:31 PM (3nLb4)

50 PI: Weasel is not here, we can do anything we want!

Morons: We want to go to the range and work on fundamentals.

PI: Yea, me too.

PI: Damn that Weasel, and his operant conditioning by repetition.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 23, 2025 07:32 PM (HlyYF)

51 Let's not forget the colorful vocal ejaculations that often follow the bolt slamming home on an errantly placed thumb.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:30 PM

The Garand demands blood. This is known.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:32 PM (Wnv9h)

52 39 No range notes this week. Scope is still back ordered. I took the week off, so I might hit the range tomorrow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:26 PM
***
Ouch.

Posted by: The Range at November 23, 2025 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

53 28 #2 son says my Ruger P95 trigger is light compared to his Glock. I said yeah.
Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:19 PM (vFG9F)

Tell him to try it DA

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 07:32 PM (RoO7G)

54 28 #2 son says my Ruger P95 trigger is light compared to his Glock. I said yeah.
Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:19 PM (vFG9F)

A Glock with a light trigger pull? Ha! I can see why he said that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 23, 2025 07:33 PM (vwL3N)

55
I don't know many gun safes people have. Oldest son and husband have four between them.

I have no clue what they have. They believe you can't have to many weapons.

It makes them happy, lol.

Posted by: fourseasons at November 23, 2025 07:33 PM (3ek7K)

56 AWESOME reviews Rhomboid!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 23, 2025 07:33 PM (y3bZw)

57 I am doing good thank you. Had the meet and greet on Monday and found out there will be tension between us as he is a Jet fan and I am a Dolphins fan. LOL

No, he seems like a decent person. Time will tell.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:14 PM (jQtRE)

You will get along fine, as you each have a high tolerance for pain and frustration. Only Cleveland Browns fans have a higher such threshold.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:33 PM (v23vE)

58 Ouch.
Posted by: The Range at November 23, 2025 07:32 PM

You know you love it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)

59 I've had my Garand for about 15 years and have never hurt myself with it. It seems to me it would take some careless operation to get your thumb stuck in there.

Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:34 PM (vFG9F)

60 You know, we could gut some Beanie Babies while we wait for Weasel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:34 PM (0sNs1)

61 Scuba dude yet you missed the boating hobby thread last evening
( I think you did, was looking for you)

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2025 07:34 PM (+qU29)

62 41 And the ping! of a Garand clip ejecting.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM

That is on my wish list of rifles to own.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:35 PM (jQtRE)

63 58 Ouch.
Posted by: The Range at November 23, 2025 07:32 PM

You know you love it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:34 PM
***
Hit me baby one more time.

Posted by: Brtiney Range Babe at November 23, 2025 07:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

64 The Garand demands blood. This is known.

When I was first introduced to the M1 by an older gentleman (though now that I think about it, probably not as old as I am now) the first thing he taught me was to keep digits out of the bolt path. I've never had that injury but I have blackened an eye by crawling up on the sight with my thumb over the receiver heel.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 23, 2025 07:36 PM (3nLb4)

65 "Tell him to try it DA
Posted by: blaster"

I like that about it. After that first round though it is pretty light. I would never carry in that condition.

Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:37 PM (vFG9F)

66 If we don't act up while Weasel is absent, and things remain calm, peaceful, and rectitudinous, Ace may think Weasel's not needed, and lay him off.

Find an 'ette and dip one of their pigtails in an inkwell. Do something! The job we save may be Weasel's!!!!

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:38 PM (0sNs1)

67 French MAS 8mm Lebel semi-automatic Model1918 with the starting bid of $7,500

Is it sexy because it's never been fired, and only dropped once?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM (0sNs1)

Dude, it's French, not Italian

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 07:38 PM (bFn+/)

68 40 This is a question that has been asked before, but for some reason seems to be met with varying degrees of disdainment. - Duncanthrax

In all honesty, I did smoke one when I was in my late teens, and it was pretty foul. The first cigar I ever smoked was a Dutch Masters that I filched from my father's office. i was six years old. Went w-a-y in the back of the neighborhood and lit up, and actually kind of liked it, but decided that I could take it or leave it. When I graduated from high school, I got into genuinely fine cigars, and loved them, but maybe 20 years later, when they had become a "thing", and dilettante smokers had driven the prices of good cigars astronomically high, I switched to American Spirit cigarettes. Gave up smoking altogether about 7 years ago; made more sense to put that money in ammo.

Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:39 PM (mADJX)

69 61 Scuba dude yet you missed the boating hobby thread last evening
( I think you did, was looking for you)

Posted by: Skip at November 23, 2025 07:34 PM

Yeah, I was involved with other things at that time.

I would have mentioned the age old adage about owning a boat.
The two happiest days you will have are the day you purchased it and the day you sold it. :-P

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:39 PM (jQtRE)

70 You will get along fine, as you each have a high tolerance for pain and frustration. Only Cleveland Browns fans have a higher such threshold.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 07:33 PM

Schnorfle,

I heard on the radio today that the Browns currently had an 0-17 streak going on the first start by their last 17 quarterbacks.

Hooray, you broke the streak today!

(However, I do NOT believe you have found your long-term starter.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 23, 2025 07:39 PM (HlyYF)

71 Went to the range this week. Twice!

First time was just to pick up my new pistol, a Pietta Great Western II Copper Canyon. It's a nice looking pistol! Brass trigger housing and front strap and back strap, case hardened on the receiver, shiny black on barrel and cylinder, and brown walnut grip panels.

In .357/.38 and an extra cylinder for 9mm.

True to 1873 spec SAA with no safety.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 07:39 PM (RoO7G)

72 Hit me baby one more time.
Posted by: Brtiney Range Babe at November 23, 2025 07:35 PM

Well played, Dino. Well played.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

73 Hit me baby one more time.
Posted by: Brtiney Range Babe at November 23, 2025 07:35 PM

Well played, Dino. Well played.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

74 Hit me baby one more time.
Posted by: Brtiney Range Babe at November 23, 2025 07:35 PM

Well played, Dino. Well played.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

75 Dafuq?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

76 Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2025 07:24 PM

Is it sexy because it's never been fired, and only dropped once?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:27 PM (0sNs1)

The rifle interested Springfield Armory enough that they modified one to chamber .30-06 in 1916-18 (before the French adopted it in 1917). Although the US never got beyond the experimental stage, it did have some influence on the postwar Pederson and Garand prototypes developed in the 1920s. So it has some claim to be called a firearms milestone.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:40 PM (BCwQW)

77 Uh oh, RedMindBlueState is talking in triplets!!!

Someone smack him for the love of all that is holy!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:42 PM (jQtRE)

78 A triple Lindy!

Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:42 PM (vFG9F)

79 RMBS - hat trick!

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 07:43 PM (RoO7G)

80 Good evening fellow enthusiasts
I have nothing to report sadly. I did hear t hat some of the DMV MGC have purchased new items but next meetup is 2 weeks from today do have to wait to see.
Did see that someone from the office of the Governor of Texas searched me on Linked in. ???
With the upcoming Holiday just want to say Thanks to all you reprobates for making being 29 so much fun.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 23, 2025 07:43 PM (t/2Uw)

81 Minx seems to go thru these schizo phases where it will do double and triple posts at random. Then it will stop for a while. You can't do a double post normally. Weird.

Posted by: fd at November 23, 2025 07:45 PM (vFG9F)

82 Schnorfle,

I heard on the radio today that the Browns currently had an 0-17 streak going on the first start by their last 17 quarterbacks.

Hooray, you broke the streak today!

(However, I do NOT believe you have found your long-term starter.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 23, 2025 07:39 PM (HlyYF)
^^ Tell me more - my boss is a Brown's fan. I can sound informed...

Posted by: Iris at November 23, 2025 07:46 PM (bOJ2I)

83 71 First time was just to pick up my new pistol, a Pietta Great Western II Copper Canyon. It's a nice looking pistol! Brass trigger housing and front strap and back strap, case hardened on the receiver, shiny black on barrel and cylinder, and brown walnut grip panels.

In .357/.38 and an extra cylinder for 9mm.

True to 1873 spec SAA with no safety. - blaster

Those guns are an awful lot of fun. I've got an Uberti 1860 Colt army conversion that has a brass backstrap and trigger guard, chambered in .44 Spl (got another one chambered in .44 Colt; a little hard to find that archaic ammo, but I laid in a big supply when I first bought it). They shoot true.

Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:46 PM (mADJX)

84 80 Did see that someone from the office of the Governor of Texas searched me on Linked in. ???
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 23, 2025 07:43 PM

They must have heard of the shenanigans you had at last months MoMe and are investigating.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:46 PM (jQtRE)

85 Thanks to all you reprobates for making being 29 so much fun.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 23, 2025 07:43 PM

Surely you are not including mid-tier and higher (according to Grok) AoSHQ commenters in the collection of AoSHQ reprobates, are you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax, a mid-tier AoSHQ commenter, according to Grok at November 23, 2025 07:46 PM (0sNs1)

86 Did what's-his-name Sanders start for the Browns today?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 23, 2025 07:48 PM (0sNs1)

87 I've got a Colt Python manufactured decades ago, but, unfortunately, I don't dare shoot it. It is some kind of special edition my late father purchased, primarily because it commemorated the revenooers struggles against the moonshiners, all kinds of gold art work and such like. He was with the ATF before it ever became known as the ATF, and he was only involved in chasing bootleggers in North Carolina, never the firearms stuff. A beautiful gun, with a couple of his own personal modifications (he had his badge number engraved on the barrel, and he replaced the Colt medallion on one side of the grips with the dept logo from his badge). it's the only one in my collection I won't shoot.
Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:31 PM (mADJX)

That Python is one of the BATF Special Edition Pythons. Made in 1982, only 25 were made. So that is a VERY RARE Python. Not shooting it is a very smart decision.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:48 PM (BCwQW)

88 That Python is one of the BATF Special Edition Pythons. Made in 1982, only 25 were made. So that is a VERY RARE Python. Not shooting it is a very smart decision. - Ed L

Thanks for that info, Ed!

Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 07:49 PM (mADJX)

89 Golf
Scuba Diving
Shooting

I wonder if I might get a little talking to about my choices. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:18 PM (jQtRE)

Lawyers,
Guns, and
Money.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 23, 2025 07:50 PM (/lPRQ)

90
rep·ro·bate
/ˈreprəˌbāt/
noun
noun: reprobate; plural noun: reprobates

1.
an unprincipled person (often used humorously or affectionately).

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 23, 2025 07:51 PM (t/2Uw)

91
Schnorfle,

I heard on the radio today that the Browns currently had an 0-17 streak going on the first start by their last 17 quarterbacks.

Hooray, you broke the streak today!

(However, I do NOT believe you have found your long-term starter.)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 23, 2025 07:39 PM (HlyYF)

Payback for Belichick cutting me. Prick.

Posted by: The Curse of Bernie Kosar at November 23, 2025 07:52 PM (vwL3N)

92 ^^ Tell me more - my boss is a Brown's fan. I can sound informed...
Posted by: Iris at November 23, 2025 07:46 PM (bOJ2I)

Talk about The Drive. Browns fans never get enough of that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 23, 2025 07:54 PM (vwL3N)

93 Paco, it should have come in a mahogany and glass presentation case with a dark blue interior floor and a brass plaque depicting a raid on an illegal moonshine operation with the words "Special Edition" and "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms."

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 07:55 PM (BCwQW)

94 Lawyers,
Guns, and
Money.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 23, 2025 07:50 PM (/lPRQ)

Not even a hat tip?

Posted by: Warren Zevon at November 23, 2025 07:55 PM (vwL3N)

95 Second trip was to shoot cowboy guns.

Breaking in the Pietta and zeroing the dot on GForce lever gun (okay lever with pic rail and dot and M-LOK is only kinda sorta cowboy).

Shot both .357 and .38 in both. Did not swap out the cylinder to try 9mm.

Pistol will take some work on...fundamentals I guess. The sights are straight out of 1873. Has a 4.75 inch barrel. I am surprised that there was significant difference in point of impact between .357 and .38 at even 5 yards.

The lever gun had zero difference in point of impact between the two calibers at 25 yards.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 07:55 PM (RoO7G)

96 OK, quick question on measuring the barrel length on a revolver. Lucky Gunner says you measure back to the "breech face", which it calls the back of the cylinder.

Then it says a moment later that the cylinder gap (at the forcing cone) isn't included in the barrel length, because "You are measuring up to the face of the cylinder, but not including any parts that are beyond the cylinder, like a compensator."

What the heck?

To the back of the cylinder would match measuring semi-autos.

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 07:57 PM (bFn+/)

97 No cigars for me since 2017. Given my issues, I probably will not smoke another.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 23, 2025 07:59 PM (vwL3N)

98 Time now for me to meander off and enjoy what is left of Sunday evening.

Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Thanks again to our host Weasel.

See ya'll again next Sunday!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 23, 2025 07:59 PM (jQtRE)

99 No range time this week. Prolly not next week either as I have to take Marine and wife to the airport. If the flight is late Enough we may hit the range early on.

Anyone know what happens if they swipe your hands and you are positive for gun powder residue? And does washing hands remove enough to be undetectable?

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (mT+6a)

100 93 Paco, it should have come in a mahogany and glass presentation case with a dark blue interior floor and a brass plaque depicting a raid on an illegal moonshine operation with the words "Special Edition" and "Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms." - Ed L.

Yep, it's stored in just such a case. I believe he gave one to my late brother, as well.

Posted by: Paco at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (mADJX)

101 Pistol will take some work on...fundamentals I guess. The sights are straight out of 1873. Has a 4.75 inch barrel. I am surprised that there was significant difference in point of impact between .357 and .38 at even 5 yards.

Blaster, the 4.75 inch "gunfighter" barrel length was considered the "snubby" version of the SAA back in the day. 7.5" barrels were preferred if you wanted accuracy.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)

102 Have a great Thanksgiving, Scoob!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 08:01 PM (Wnv9h)

103 Blaster, the 4.75 inch "gunfighter" barrel length was considered the "snubby" version of the SAA back in the day. 7.5" barrels were preferred if you wanted accuracy.
Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)

Why is that, EdL? If he's shooting modern ammo, and the barrel is properly sized, wouldn't it be as accurate as a modern weapon?

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 08:02 PM (jqdfQ)

104 Anyone know what happens if they swipe your hands and you are positive for gun powder residue? And does washing hands remove enough to be undetectable?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (mT+6a)

TSA doesn't swab your hands (that I know of), but I don't know what other sensors the metal detectors/scanners you have to walk through might have. Washing my hands and face seem to do the trick for me.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:03 PM (BCwQW)

105 Looking up some SAA content on Youtube I came across a video of a quickdraw contest that is held in Nevada annually (not sure the vintage of the video so maybe they don't have this anymore).

They do matchups but they do not face each other. And they shoot wax bullets, which is something someone brought up last week. But again, not at each other.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 08:05 PM (RoO7G)

106 Sig 320 video: Looks to me like the security guard was shoving his pistol deeper into his holster when it discharged. The holster looks like (at least to me) it was designed for a pistol with a light mounted in front of the trigger guard, means it would have an extra large opening on top.

One scenario proposed by Sig is that "stuff" can fall into holsters and then press on the trigger after the pistol has been inserted.

Which raises the question, do other pistols have this problem?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 08:07 PM (8QVSJ)

107 Anyone know what happens if they swipe your hands and you are positive for gun powder residue? And does washing hands remove enough to be undetectable?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (mT+6a)

I haven't seen TSA do swipes for a long time, but that doesn't mean they are not still doing them.

I suspect that if an item comes up positive on a swipe it means it gets hand inspected and you get to spend some extra time in line.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 08:08 PM (RoO7G)

108 TSA doesn't swab your hands (that I know of), but I don't know what other sensors the metal detectors/scanners you have to walk through might have.

I have never been a high frequency flier so this is based on a small sample and could well just be coincidence but when I used to dabble in model rocketry with my kids, I had 2 or 3 instances of getting to my destination and finding the TSA's little "Hi there, we broke into your luggage. You're welcome." notes and none since quitting model rocketry. My SWAG is that it had something to do with miniscule amounts of black power residue on my clothing.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 23, 2025 08:08 PM (3nLb4)

109 Anyone know what happens if they swipe your hands and you are positive for gun powder residue? And does washing hands remove enough to be undetectable?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 23, 2025 08:00 PM (mT+6a)

You get a pat-down and your bags prodded a bit more. Maybe you get asked if you were shooting recently.

Washing your hands would help. But not enough if they were doing a forensic search (which they're not).

If it's an airport where you hand your checked luggage to the TSA guy, though, you might want to mention you went shooting just prior. And make sure nothing in that bag looks suspicious. (If guns are being checked it won't be a problem.)

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 08:09 PM (jqdfQ)

110 Howdy PI. I had a long reply denying any Browns fandom on my part, but my Internet company decided to do "maintenance" on my line before it posted. I'll just say that I grew up on college football, and thus regard the NFL as an amusing Sunday exhibition league.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 08:12 PM (v23vE)

111 I made a big pot of chili for dinner. Now I have four very nice steel cans to shoot at.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 08:13 PM (8QVSJ)

112 On the barrel length question, LG also says something about "short-barreled handguns." Is there such a thing?

I might have found something written by AI. Not good.

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 08:14 PM (cq/Ig)

113 Why is that, EdL? If he's shooting modern ammo, and the barrel is properly sized, wouldn't it be as accurate as a modern weapon?
Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 08:02 PM (jqdfQ)

The 4.75" barrel was called a "snubby" because it was the shortest factory barrel length commonly offered by Colt in the SAA's heyday. Colt did make shorter (3" and 4" barrels) models with the "Sheriffs'" and "Storekeeper" models, but these were pretty rare compared to the "gunfighter" barrel length. I'm not sure why there's a big difference in where the rounds are hitting at five yards. All I can say right now is to shoot some different bullet weights and powder loadings and see what happens.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:16 PM (BCwQW)

114 Thanks guys.

Would a dog flag him for residue on his clothing?

Sorry. Guess I’m being paranoid. He will NOT be traveling with a firearm, although he really really wants his long guns with him in CA.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 23, 2025 08:16 PM (mT+6a)

115 One scenario proposed by Sig is that "stuff" can fall into holsters and then press on the trigger after the pistol has been inserted.

Which raises the question, do other pistols have this problem?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 08:07 PM (8QVSJ)

sra blaster and I have P320s and no issues with them. Except I shoot mine better than my P226 Legion and that kind of makes me mad.

My opinion on the P320 is that there are lots of them in use - military and police as well as civilian use. There are probably enough in use, and used enough, that there are going to be pistols that are at the tolerances of specification and wear takes them over the edge.

I would bet big money that the 1911 has many more deaths and injuries from "uncontrolled discharge." But that did not happen in the age of social media.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 08:18 PM (RoO7G)

116 Today was a good Chili day. Cold and humid, overcast. That gravy link posted last night got me to thinkin’, I’m gonna make onion gravy over some mashed potatoes tomorrow.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 23, 2025 08:18 PM (IrAlb)

117 Decent guns are so inexpensive now . I’m looking at an ad from Academy Sports. They have a Springfield XD MOD 9mm for $279. A Taurus GC3 9mm for $179. And many other affordable handguns and Long guns.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 23, 2025 08:20 PM (KDPiq)

118 I'm not sure why there's a big difference in where the rounds are hitting at five yards. All I can say right now is to shoot some different bullet weights and powder loadings and see what happens.
Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:16 PM (BCwQW)

I should try from a bench rest and see if its a real effect or just me. The rifle had little difference in felt recoil between .357 and .38. The pistol was more pronounced.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 08:23 PM (RoO7G)

119 Decent guns are so inexpensive now . I’m looking at an ad from Academy Sports. They have a Springfield XD MOD 9mm for $279. A Taurus GC3 9mm for $179. And many other affordable handguns and Long guns.
Posted by: the way I see it

This is they should be sold out of vending machines. Like some of the stuff they sell from vending machines in Japan.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 23, 2025 08:23 PM (/lPRQ)

120 Would a dog flag him for residue on his clothing?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 23, 2025 08:16 PM (mT+6a)

Even if it did, it would earn him no more than a wanding/pat-down, and a poke inside his carry-ons.

And it's not paranoia. It's a perfectly sane response to the insanity in which you live, over there, nurse.

Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 08:26 PM (Gtcj3)

121 I might have found something written by AI. Not good.
Posted by: GWB at November 23, 2025 08:14 PM (cq/Ig)

There is a metric fuckton of AI-generated (or "enhanced") videos on Ewetoob. I started watching one last evening, about Canadian Army snipers in Italy during WWII. The unnatural pacing of the voice was a dead giveaway. When they cut in pics of modern Canadian troops in modern camo uniforms toting assault rifles, I gave up in disgust. Could have been an interesting story, but they en-crappinated it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:28 PM (npFr7)

122 There is a metric fuckton of AI-generated (or "enhanced") videos on Ewetoob. I started watching one last evening, about Canadian Army snipers in Italy during WWII. The unnatural pacing of the voice was a dead giveaway. When they cut in pics of modern Canadian troops in modern camo uniforms toting assault rifles, I gave up in disgust. Could have been an interesting story, but they en-crappinated it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:28 PM (npFr7)
Did it begin with these words?
'They laughed until they heard her callsign!'

Posted by: Eromero at November 23, 2025 08:32 PM (LHPAg)

123 Did it begin with these words?
'They laughed until they heard her callsign!'
Posted by: Eromero at November 23, 2025 08:32 PM (LHPAg)

No, it began as a drama, with some German captain pacing about a castle, puzzled why three of his troops had been shot dead, out of the blue.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:34 PM (npFr7)

124 FWIW...Bernie Kosar just received a new kidney.
He prolly doesn't give a shit what we think about him.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at November 23, 2025 08:36 PM (WQDw6)

125 FWIW...Bernie Kosar just received a new kidney.
He prolly doesn't give a shit what we think about him.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at November 23, 2025 08:36 PM (WQDw6)

Well, that's a pisser! Who is Bernie Kosar?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:38 PM (npFr7)

126 The sig thing seemed to be everywhere, there was that air firce (?) Guy supposedly killed. Then it turned out that might have been sgaged/murder and everything died like a blanket got dropped on it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 23, 2025 08:40 PM (zZu0s)

127 I would bet big money that the 1911 has many more deaths and injuries from "uncontrolled discharge." But that did not happen in the age of social media.
Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 08:18 PM (RoO7G)

In mid 1944, there were several mishaps with dropped S&W Victory Model (S&W Model 10) revolvers discharging. One of these killed an enlisted sailor. The USN Bureau of Ordnance and US Army Ordnance Corps investigation traced the problem to the hammer. Striking the hammer spur hard enough allowed the firing pin to hit the cartridge with enough force to discharge it. Initially the USN wanted Colt Commandos in lieu of the S&W Victory Models. But S&W rapidly designed and installed a hammer block to fix the problem by December 1944. S&W continued to supply Victory Model revolvers right up to the war's end.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:40 PM (BCwQW)

128 Bernie Kosar was the Fran Tarkenton of Trent Dilfers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 23, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s)

129 Well, that's a pisser! Who is Bernie Kosar?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:38 PM

Mr. and Mrs. Kosar's kid. That's all I got.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 08:42 PM (Wnv9h)

130 There is a metric fuckton of AI-generated (or "enhanced") videos on Ewetoob. I started watching one last evening, about Canadian Army snipers in Italy during WWII. The unnatural pacing of the voice was a dead giveaway. When they cut in pics of modern Canadian troops in modern camo uniforms toting assault rifles, I gave up in disgust. Could have been an interesting story, but they en-crappinated it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:28 PM (npFr7)

Which is why hard copy books should not be completely replaced by electrons when it comes to references. It's a lot harder to fake a book than a video.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:43 PM (BCwQW)

131 Which is why hard copy books should not be completely replaced by electrons when it comes to references. It's a lot harder to fake a book than a video.
Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:43 PM (BCwQW)

This true.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 08:47 PM (npFr7)

132 Just dropped in to say hay! And wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by: Rancherbob at November 23, 2025 08:52 PM (FOqK9)

133 Happy Thanksgiving, Rancherbob!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 08:52 PM (Wnv9h)

134 Decent guns are so inexpensive now . I’m looking at an ad from Academy Sports. They have a Springfield XD MOD 9mm for $279. A Taurus GC3 9mm for $179. And many other affordable handguns and Long guns.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 23, 2025 08:20 PM (KDPiq)

Quoted from the Colt catalog from June 1955 MSRPs:
Colt Python: $125.
Colt Agent: $68.10
Colt Trooper (base): $71
Colt Trooper (wide hammer spur & target stocks): $79.25

This is from an era when $100-200 a month was a very nice take home paycheck.

Factor in inflation and today's guns are much more affordable today than yesteryear.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

135 Anyone know what happens if they swipe your hands and you are positive for gun powder residue? And does washing hands remove enough to be undetectable?

Posted by: nurse ratched

----

This happened to hubby. He shot some feral hogs in the morning and we flew in the afternoon. He always opts for the pat down instead of the full body scanners. The TSA agent was a good ol' boy and he laughed and reminded us there is a bounty for feral hog tails.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 23, 2025 08:55 PM (ys6FW)

136 Just took a look at the 9mm cylinder. I had seen/read that perhaps moon clips would be required. Not the case. The holes for the bullets in the cylinder (there must be a technical name for that) for .357/.38 are the same diameter full length. The 9mm cyinder is slightly wider for the length of a 9mm case and then slightly narrower - the 9mm case catches inside there instead of the rim of the case catching on the end.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 08:55 PM (RoO7G)

137 Happy Thanksgiving to you and Cowhorse Queen, Rancher Bob!

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:56 PM (BCwQW)

138 Factor in inflation and today's guns are much more affordable today than yesteryear.
Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

On the other hand, you could still buy and trade fully automatic weapons in 1955, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 23, 2025 08:57 PM (zZu0s)

139 On the other hand, you could still buy and trade fully automatic weapons in 1955, right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 23, 2025 08:57 PM (zZu0s)

That $200 NFA tax took a much bigger bite back then. In some cases, it would double the price or more. Just like today, you had to have serious $$ to play in the Class 3 sandbox.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 09:01 PM (BCwQW)

140 Factor in inflation and today's guns are much more affordable today than yesteryear.
Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

A few years ago "Handloader" magazine reprinted their first issue from 1969, complete with ads. I was surprised how expensive things were then. $40 for a set of loading dies that cost $60 today.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 09:01 PM (8QVSJ)

141 “Glock leg” happened enough to get its own name. Usually the result of getting a drawstring toggle caught in the trigger guard when reholstering. That is why I’m not a fan of striker fired pistols. Putting your thumb on the hammer and not forcing the gun into the holster help prevent a discharge.

Posted by: KDKong at November 23, 2025 09:04 PM (Bc40B)

142 CHAMBER. The hole in the cylinder is a chamber.

Thanks Grok.

I probably should have known that.

Posted by: blaster at November 23, 2025 09:05 PM (RoO7G)

143 My husband was flying back from LAX and he and his laptop tested positive for explosives. His day got really long after that.

Posted by: NCKate at November 23, 2025 09:06 PM (uQzkA)

144 “Glock leg” happened enough to get its own name. Usually the result of getting a drawstring toggle caught in the trigger guard when reholstering. That is why I’m not a fan of striker fired pistols. Putting your thumb on the hammer and not forcing the gun into the holster help prevent a discharge.
Posted by: KDKong at November 23, 2025 09:04 PM (Bc40B)

The H&K P7 series are probably the safest striker fired pistols out there. If you aren't pressing all the way down on the lever forming the front strap of the grip, the trigger is completely dead. Unfortunately, the P7's are also some of the most expensive pistols out there thanks to their rarity and desireablity as collectors' items.

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 09:10 PM (BCwQW)

145 re tonight's movie

Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women:

Nigel Honeybone of HorrorNews.Net wrote that the film's scenes with Mamie Van Doren represented "Peter Bogdanovich’s stag film", and that producer Roger Corman had "made the Russian footage crappier, fulfilling his patriotic duty as an American"

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 23, 2025 09:13 PM (caxhV)

146 Weasel, it's time for me to sign off for tonight. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

Posted by: Ed L at November 23, 2025 09:15 PM (BCwQW)

147 Hey all, just been lurking, but wanted to wish all of you a very happy Thanksgiving. And thank you Weasel for running the thread!

Posted by: Ten Gallon Hat at November 23, 2025 09:21 PM (M7XTk)

148 Carried a 1911 for a few years and H&K USP compact for about 20. Never had any problems. Been looking at the VP9s.

Posted by: KDKong at November 23, 2025 09:24 PM (Bc40B)

149 Punching out, all.

Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2025 09:25 PM (Wnv9h)

150 Happy Thanksgiving y'all...and safe travels to all who will be flying or driving....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 23, 2025 09:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

151 The ending of the movie was very smegmatic …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 23, 2025 09:29 PM (ayRl+)

152 My inbox has been flooded with Black Friday ads from gun-related businesses. Oddly, their "special Black Friday" prices look an awful lot like their regular prices.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 23, 2025 09:31 PM (8QVSJ)

153 Wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. Was out with wife on a supply run for this forthcoming week.

Signing out.

Posted by: whig at November 23, 2025 09:32 PM (WDjG6)

154 150 Happy Thanksgiving y'all...and safe travels to all who will be flying or driving....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 23, 2025 09:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

And to you and yours, ma'am, including the short-armed fellow. Also Rancher Bob!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 23, 2025 09:35 PM (v23vE)

155 Happy Thanksgiving to all. See you next Sunday.

'Nite!

Posted by: Weasel at November 23, 2025 09:38 PM (+OnsA)

156 Just finished burning an Alec Bradley Prensado. Got a blood test scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, so that and a bit of fudge paired with a stout chai should lock the numbers in nicely. Best for a blessed Thanksgiving to all...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 23, 2025 09:38 PM (nbLIj)

157 Carried a 1911 for a few years and H&K USP compact for about 20. Never had any problems. Been looking at the VP9s.

Posted by: KDKong at November 23, 2025 09:24 PM (Bc40B)

I like your taste in pistols!

I have a full-size USP (.40SW) and a VP9. I think the USP is the superior pistol. The VP9 is a nice striker-fired pistol, but nothing special. Maybe it is more robust than most, but it ain't the USP!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 23, 2025 09:48 PM (n9ltV)

158 The ending of the movie was very smegmatic …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 23, 2025 09:29 PM (ayRl+)

Those prehistoric wimmens sure had well-tailored stretch pants, didn't they?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 09:49 PM (npFr7)

159
Gobble Gobble.

I wish for all of you a wonderful Thanksgiving.

We have so much to be thankful for.

Prayers for families who have lost loved ones.

We will persevere.

Posted by: fourseasons at November 23, 2025 09:49 PM (3ek7K)

160 Gobble Gobble.

I wish for all of you a wonderful Thanksgiving.

We have so much to be thankful for.

Prayers for families who have lost loved ones.

We will persevere.

Posted by: fourseasons at November 23, 2025 09:49 PM (3ek7K)

And the same to you!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 23, 2025 09:51 PM (npFr7)

161
Thank you AOP.

We will be in the Badlands a couple of days.

Teaching the grandkids all about shooting. Pass it on to the next generations.

Posted by: fourseasons at November 23, 2025 09:55 PM (3ek7K)

162 She’s Going to Learn’: 9-Year-Old Texas Girl Flies Through Car Window After Woman Ordered Her to Move Vehicle, Video Shows

A 25-year-old Texas woman is behind bars after authorities say she ordered a 9-year-old girl to drive her car, which crashed and landed the young child in the hospital with serious injuries.

Home surveillance video footage caught the car swiftly skidding down a street in reverse with the driver’s side door open. Police say the child was flung out of the car when it suddenly crashed into a neighbor’s car.

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 23, 2025 10:05 PM (L/fGl)

163 We have nood.

This is not a drill.

We have nood. Please calmly make your way to the nearest exit to participate.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 23, 2025 10:10 PM (xgJL3)

164 Too late! But for posterity...

Did some side by side comparisons of the Glock 44 and the Taurus TX 22. The Taurus felt better in hand and had better balance. It also holds 16 rounds.

The Glock was lighter, closer to a G19 in hand and the trigger was more crisp and produced tighter groups using the same ammo.

Also did some XD45 drills. Slow fire is very accurate but going fast with a .45 makes my groups open up. But so long as the sights are lined up, the gun performs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 23, 2025 10:25 PM (xcxpd)

165 Night, Weasel. Happy T Day to you and WW and all the other Ws!

Posted by: RI Red at November 23, 2025 10:42 PM (LMRVO)

166 Took the two oldest to Beaver Dam Rock Pit to shoot some things Saturday morning. They had a great time. The other people were friendly and safe. I haven't done much shooting for about ten years, but I'm trying to get back into it.

It's hard to figure out what to do for targets. I brought a flattened cardboard box, put it back together, and taped some targets to it. That worked pretty well . . . except for sighting in a new AR + red dot, since the box moved every time you hit it. I guess that makes it a reactive target?

Today I made a target stand from leftover fence planks---pretty much the cheapest lumber you can get, 6' x 5.5", with rough sides. (2x4s would work too.) The base is three pieces that come apart, with holes for 1x2 posts, so I can throw it all in the little Subaru. If it works I'll share some instructions.

Posted by: pjungwir at November 24, 2025 01:09 AM (noE7F)

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