Taxpayer-Funded Universities Are Training Foreigners To Take Our Jobs. H1Bs And OPTs Make It Even Worse!

Our universities eagerly accept foreigners because they pay full tuition, and in many cases additional fees...never mind that they are taking spots that have been funded by American taxpayers for American students. The universities also have greater control over foreign students because of their student visas...they will do pretty much what they are told, including teaching undergraduates for very little or no compensation. Of course, many of them don't speak English well enough to be effective instructors, but the universities certainly don't care. They long ago ceased being educators of American youth and have become propagandists for their peculiar ignorant leftism. But that may be a secondary function....most are fanatically fixated on growing their institutions and their endowments, and be damned with the idea of educating Americans!

And our horrid anti-American corporations take advantage of every single employment regulation to maximize their profitability at the expense of the American taxpayer. Should they be allowed to use the law to their advantage? Absolutely! Should our lawmakers change the law so that the employment of Americans is the only goal of the law? Absolutely!

Yes, I despise most of our corporations because they have lost sight of even the most basic pro-American sensibilities. That's why JP Morgan's announcement a few weeks ago of a significant pro-American financial initiative was so welcome, and so surprising. Hopefully it will be the impetus for other American banks and other companies to invest in America and Americans.

Job Prospects for 2026 College Grads to Hit 5-Year Low While Employers Eye AI, Foreign Labor

In 2024 alone, the Biden administration approved work permits for approximately 400,000 foreign college graduates through the Optional Practical Training (OPT) program — a 45 percent increase from 2020 levels under President Trump. Former U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Joe Edlow and other Trump administration officials have warned that programs like OPT are depressing wages and displacing American graduates, particularly in high-demand STEM and business fields.
The pipeline from foreign student to U.S. worker also begins at the admissions level. Breitbart News opinion contributor Rich Kaye questioned why taxpayer-funded public universities are increasingly filling seats with international students who later convert F-1 student visas into work permits. “When a public university replaces a Georgia student with an F‑1 student in a high‑demand field,” Kaye wrote, “it increases the pipeline pressure tomorrow for H‑1B allocations in exactly the sectors where Americans could be trained to fill roles.”

Congress must act, and act quickly to repair the damage that generations of globalists and bean counters have done to American employment. In fact, a major overhaul would be quite simple. End H1B visas. End the OPT program. Evaluate foreign worker entry into the American job market on a case-by-case basis. And if it takes three years to get a $75,000/year Indian programmer, then so be it. Absent a clearly demonstrated lack of domestic labor supply, the answer should always be "no."

Will that injure American technological progress? Perhaps, although I doubt it very much. The intellectual pipeline flows mostly one way, and that direction is out of America to the rest of the world. Certainly the panicked CEOs of many corporations will trot out examples -- real or imagined -- where their businesses will be injured by shutting down the supply of foreign labor, but each of those CEOs should be invited to fund American training systems that will generate domestic labor supply. That's what they should have been doing a long time ago.

The function of government is not to protect the profits of corporations. It is to protect the well being of the people. We are long past the time when American business leaders should be taken seriously when they whine about global competitiveness and allowing capital to flow to the most efficient places.

The Trump administration has a year to get this correct...the 2026 mid-term elections are a great unknown, but history suggests a malign result. Do it now, and the American people will thank President Trump, the Republican Party, and the pro-American legislators who pushed back against the globalists!

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 I'll get em

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 12:00 PM (+qU29)

2 first?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:02 PM (zZSxi)

3 Yes.. It seems the folks care more about jobs and cost of things then ending wars...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2025 12:02 PM (VE6XX)

4 It might be quicker to let the Jihad render DC and NYC un-inhabitable.

Posted by: DaveA at November 16, 2025 12:04 PM (FhXTo)

5 What's an OPT?

Posted by: Lemme guess... twenty bucks... at November 16, 2025 12:05 PM (XQo4F)

6 Tax funded Cultural Marxist Seminaries are brain washing youth to H8 American Constitution

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 12:05 PM (+qU29)

7 Why, it's almost like someone set out with a plan to cripple the country long term and destroy it from within.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2025 12:06 PM (bss/y)

8 Maybe if college grads were less enamored with AI they'd have something to look forward to... job wise.

And less enamored with socialism.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 16, 2025 12:07 PM (NwnyJ)

9 Taxpayer-Funded Universities Are Training Foreigners To Take Our Jobs. H1Bs And OPTs Make It Even Worse!

We are our own worst enemy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2025 12:08 PM (0N4FZ)

10 Trump really stepped on his dick in that interview with Laura Ingraham.

Wanna kiss goodbye support from young white men? That’s how you do it. You tell them they’re too stupid to do tech jobs and we need to import Chinese and Indians instead.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:08 PM (u9SGQ)

11 Universities, corporations… they’re all broken. Reminds me of this piece;

https://tinyurl.com/e2wh4uam

Everything. Is. Broken.

Add media, churches, government, medicine… everything

I must be in a foul mood today because I’m pessimistic

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:09 PM (IurwF)

12 What's an OPT?
Posted by: Lemme guess

Tell me the content is too dry to read with out saying it...

"Optional Practical Training (OPT)"

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 16, 2025 12:10 PM (uWSFJ)

13 You want another black pill? Consider how during the Covid lockdowns so many people were told to stay at home and not do any work, and the economy didn't collapse.
How many current workers are employed doing nothing worthwhile?

Perhaps the coming AI revolution will flush out these useless workers, who I am sure will sit quietly at home and compose epic poetry and absolutely will not join dubious organizations and start throwing Molotov cocktails.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:11 PM (zZSxi)

14 Congress must act...

Uh oh.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 16, 2025 12:11 PM (ULPxl)

15 14 Congress must act...

Uh oh.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 16, 2025 12:11 PM (ULPxl)

I'm with you....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2025 12:12 PM (VE6XX)

16 Just read the sidebar about the spineless weasels in my state Senate. Sen. Bray should have taken a horse whip to the bastards and got the job done. But nooooo, Sen. Bray is the most spineless weasel of them all. Indiana is deep red outside of Indianapolis, Bloomington and some other blue cities that the rural folks still outnumber. Get this shit done, you slimy dick muncher.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at November 16, 2025 12:12 PM (2J/Lj)

17 I knew Trump wasn’t serious about immigration when he said he’d allow some illegals to stay because they’re needed for farming and hospitality.

Bull fucking shit. There’s no job in the country that can’t be filled by an American. Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”.

Now he’s gone one step further where it’s not just illegals on farms and in hotels, but it’s Chinese and Indians in tech. Apparently no Americans are capable of doing anything.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:13 PM (u9SGQ)

18 Apparently no Americans are capable of doing anything.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:13 PM (u9SGQ)

They make good Baristas.....

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (VE6XX)

19 13 You want another black pill? Consider how during the Covid lockdowns so many people were told to stay at home and not do any work, and the economy didn't collapse.
How many current workers are employed doing nothing worthwhile?

—

Office jobs done at home are no different than at the office. You’re just cutting out a commute.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (u9SGQ)

20 In Trump's interview with Ingram, he seemed to say if we don't import a bunch of Chinese and other foreign students, traditional black colleges will go out of business.

Huh?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (c5SyZ)

21 About 15 years ago, our daughter’s bf was working on a Ph.D. in bio-engineering at a major state University in fly-over country. His professors jokingly referred to him as their token state student bc all the other students were Chinese. And, that was 15 years ago. Not a large program, but the Chinese owned it.

Posted by: EveR at November 16, 2025 12:15 PM (GMel5)

22 "Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”."

Bullshit.

Ask the CEO of Ford about this.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:15 PM (sPsWv)

23 We're also importing a huge number of foreign faculty to teach these foreign students...

Many of these faculty struggle mightily with the English language, particularly when they are teaching American students.

How many of us have sat in a class where 3/4 of the students (or more) and the professor were clearly foreign born?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2025 12:16 PM (IBQGV)

24 H1b allows corporations to leverage the value of living in America to reduce their costs. I think Trump's $100k charge for an H1b is in the right direction if the peogram can't be canceled.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 16, 2025 12:16 PM (UcyPo)

25 20 In Trump's interview with Ingram, he seemed to say if we don't import a bunch of Chinese and other foreign students, traditional black colleges will go out of business.

Huh?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (c5SyZ
Somebody better ‘refresh’ that legacy.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 12:17 PM (i+bC1)

26 I think Trump's $100k charge for an H1b is in the right direction if the peogram can't be canceled.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 16, 2025 12:16 PM (UcyPo)

Amortized over the life of the visa, and it isn't the poison pill we need!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2025 12:18 PM (n9ltV)

27 Office jobs done at home are no different than at the office. You’re just cutting out a commute.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (u9SGQ)

Not necessarily. It depends on the job. I know because I’m in engineering; we design large complex aerospace systems. Hundreds of engineers involved in each design… the amount of collaboration needed cannot be done remotely, full stop. We tried during covid and it was a disaster… our executive leadership has been begging then forcing engineers back into the office ever since…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:19 PM (2TicB)

28 Anyone would be hard pressed to make me believe working at home is more productive that at a office. I work on construction projects and see guys addicted to phones at every chance they get

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 12:20 PM (+qU29)

29 "His professors jokingly referred to him as their token state student bc all the other students were Chinese. And, that was 15 years ago. Not a large program, but the Chinese owned it."

Similar story for me but this was 40 years ago in Physics. I was one of 3 Americans in a entrance group of 15 PhD candidates.

I swear I got the position of TA because the undergrads could understand me. My classes were swamped with students from the other TAs.

Two guys washed out in the first year and I quit later because I lost interest.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:23 PM (sPsWv)

30 It's crazy to think how well things were going the first 5 to 6 months of this administration. It only took a few months for everything to seemingly completely unravel.

That Laura ingraham interview was an absolute disaster even after all the backlash on h1b's, foreigners and colleges, and the economy in general he still goes on that interview and craps his pants. That shows that he simply does not understand what time it is and and that his inner circle has completely surrendered on the immigration side of things.

One week is an eternity in politics and we have a year to course correct but I have a really bad feeling about this.

Posted by: GigantorX at November 16, 2025 12:23 PM (QrnNx)

31 the amount of collaboration needed cannot be done remotely, full stop.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:19 PM (2TicB)

100% correct, and that can be extrapolated to most things...not just large engineering projects.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2025 12:24 PM (n9ltV)

32 9 Taxpayer-Funded Universities Are Training Foreigners To Take Our Jobs. H1Bs And OPTs Make It Even Worse!
>We are our own worst enemy.

Wrong, it is Evil's Advantage over consciousness which converts from within to create a 5th column to defeat not only ones interest but to compel them (the LIBs) into not only sponsoring our adversaries, but actively defending them as well.

https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-theOnePiece
All seeking that one thing that could change everything: the One Piece of Resistance. Is it really better to be a Pirate than join the Navy?

https://tinyurl.com/WheresTheH1BSpecial
https://tinyurl.com/EvilsAdvantageOverConscience
...more brazen and relentless one’s acts of brutality, the more likely it is that one will be allowed a second chance, and find even powerful men of conscience coming to one’s door offering to forget, to forgive, and to give forgiveness a bad name.

What fools these Mortals be!

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 16, 2025 12:24 PM (/3+Sz)

33 Anyone would be hard pressed to make me believe working at home is more productive that at a office. I work on construction projects and see guys addicted to phones at every chance they get
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 12:20 PM (+qU29)

I think the only kinds of jobs that DO make sense working from home are call centers, where the person is passively waiting for calls to come in.

No need to be gathered in an office to do that.

But those are the jobs that are almost exclusively staffed by overseas entities where someone with a Pakistani accent calls himself Chet.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:25 PM (c5SyZ)

34 ."never mind that they are taking spots that have been funded by American taxpayers for American students."

I never realized until now that there is a fixed, immovable number of college admissions.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:25 PM (vwL3N)

35 OT:

That article on "Mankeeping" mentioned in the comments in the Book Thread is hilarious.

Here's a sample of the insights, we're treated to:

It must be mildly embarrassing to be a straight man, and it is incumbent upon each of them to mitigate this embarrassment in a way that feels authentic to him.

You know....if you're embarrassed to be a heterosexual male,

you should probably find the nearest dick to suck on until your heterosexual embarrassment goes away, or you decide you've found a new embarrassment-free hobby.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2025 12:26 PM (iJfKG)

36 17 I knew Trump wasn’t serious about immigration when he said he’d allow some illegals to stay because they’re needed for farming and hospitality.
-------------

Stop paying people not to work.
That will be a major rectification.

Paying able bodied people to sit at home, domiciled in govt housing, watching subsidized TV, eating Doritos while talking on their Obama phone contributes to our upside down economy and labor market. Greatly.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:26 PM (1IBl2)

37 22 "Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”."

Bullshit.

Ask the CEO of Ford about this.
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:15 PM (sPsWv)

Define "fair wage".

With a NUMBER.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:26 PM (vwL3N)

38 I never realized until now that there is a fixed, immovable number of college admissions.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:25 PM (vwL3N)

That makes no sense, and where you got that in my post is beyond me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2025 12:27 PM (n9ltV)

39 "Just what would you say you do here?" -The Smiling Bobs in "Office Space"

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:27 PM (zZSxi)

40 Yeah do find any call even to what one might think is a local office has a poor English speaking phone operator

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 12:27 PM (+qU29)

41 It's all over for MAGA. Harry Sissy told me so.

Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:28 PM (WgCfy)

42 20 In Trump's interview with Ingram, he seemed to say if we don't import a bunch of Chinese and other foreign students, traditional black colleges will go out of business.

Huh?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (c5SyZ)

That's not the issue with Texas Southern University.
We could import the entire Chinese population and it wouldn't alter the problems at that university a whit.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:28 PM (vwL3N)

43 Anyone would be hard pressed to make me believe working at home is more productive that at a office. I work on construction projects and see guys addicted to phones at every chance they get
Posted by: Skip at November 16

My entire team is remote. We’re distributed all across the country all 4 time zones. Works just fine.

You have to have good management to implement this. If people are slacking (no pun intended haha) then you get rid of them.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:29 PM (u9SGQ)

44 On topic:

The worst thing about all of these H1Bs etc is that the gov't is using our tax money to make our lives worse.

Like so:

https://instapundit.com/756937/

Honestly, how stupid are we as a nation to keep electing people who hate us and hate our country?

Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2025 12:30 PM (iJfKG)

45 "Texas Southern University"

Wow, don't see that place mentioned much.

I know a guy that teaches there. Or did.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:30 PM (sPsWv)

46 Ask ford ceo what? I don’t know the reference.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:30 PM (u9SGQ)

47 Very good essay, CBD. Thanks.

Anyone with a concern about his or other issues should consider writing to the White House at:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2025 12:31 PM (uPdai)

48 1. Import H1Bs
2. Convert H1Bs to citizens
3. They now vote for people who want more immigration.
4. Go to 1.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:31 PM (u9SGQ)

49 “It’s a tax,” United States Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 16, 2025 12:32 PM (hJopM)

50 Certainly the panicked CEOs of many corporations will trot out examples -- real or imagined -- where their businesses will be injured by shutting down the supply of foreign labor, but each of those CEOs should be invited to fund American training systems that will generate domestic labor supply. That's what they should have been doing a long time ago.

The business won't be injured but their bonuses based on budget cutting and manipulated share value might be. People are increasingly tired of our government and economy being corporatist slop. I that might be a reason why that United Healthcare CEO being murdered didn't move the needle with conservatives as much as one might have predicted. Of course it's wrong and wrongheaded and Luigi needs to swing, but I think even normies won't care all that much when something bad happens to someone who helps perpetrate the destructive system we have.

Posted by: Shit products + poor wages = C-Suite bonuses at November 16, 2025 12:32 PM (TbWk/)

51 It's all over for MAGA. Harry Sissy told me so.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:28 PM (WgCfy)

If Trump doesn’t change course asap it may well be over. I didn’t vote for 500k Chinese students and more H1Bs. Did you?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:33 PM (u9SGQ)

52 “You might feel a little pressure.” Brian Regan quoting doctors in his stand up.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 16, 2025 12:33 PM (hJopM)

53 Go time,

Do a search "Ford CEO mechanics"

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:34 PM (sPsWv)

54 I have had the younger engineers at work tell me that a lot of their friends and fellow graduates have not found jobs and they personally felt lucky they did.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 12:35 PM (3uBP9)

55 Ford CEO is full of shit. This is what CEOs say to justify their hiring of foreign workers. $100k mechanic jobs are unfilled? Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:36 PM (u9SGQ)

56
That makes no sense, and where you got that in my post is beyond me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2025 12:27 PM (n9ltV)

I'll quote you AGAIN: "never mind that they are taking spots that have been funded by American taxpayers for American students".

Having been to a community college and a university, I am sure there is not a fixed number of spots that have been funded by American taxpayers for American students. I am sure that this number goes up and down for various reasons and that the number of foreign students also fluctuates.

"The universities also have greater control over foreign students because of their student visas...they will do pretty much what they are told, including teaching undergraduates for very little or no compensation." - true, to a point: we have no system of exit visas. We do not check passports for those leaving the country. It is easy for a foreign student to overstay their visa without penalty. Anyone can overstay a visa here for that matter.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:36 PM (vwL3N)

57

What's good for General Bullmoose
Is good for the U.S.A.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2025 12:36 PM (pkeXY)

58 We do everything possible to make sure college students are not inconvenienced by the costs associated with going to college.

Foreign students have a meal ticket and pay full price.

You run a college like a business and you'll take the foreigners every time. It's not 'just' the H1B program that's a problem with employment prospects. American, college age kids are ill equipped to enter the workforce and do anything meaningful unless they're reeducated.

It's sort of a double edged sword we're dealing with.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 16, 2025 12:37 PM (NwnyJ)

59 If Trump doesn’t change course asap it may well be over. I didn’t vote for 500k Chinese students and more H1Bs. Did you?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:33 PM (u9SGQ)

Have you told your Rep and Sens what you just told us?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:37 PM (vwL3N)

60 37 22 "Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”."

Bullshit.

Ask the CEO of Ford about this.
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:15 PM (sPsWv)

Define "fair wage".

With a NUMBER.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:26 PM (vwL3N)

Bonus points: define 'fair.'

Posted by: LASue at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (lCppi)

61 The skilled labor pool isn't that deep. Ford as noted by folks can't find skilled people who could make $120k per year very quickly. I'm sure the tech world is slightly different in that Americans are willing to do that , but welding , pipe fitting , manufacturing tool and dye etc are jobs that Americans should want but they're busy contemplating their genders or majoring in stupid stuff at college for no apparent reason

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (bfwj/)

62 Do a search "Ford CEO mechanics"
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:34 PM (sPsWv)

Sounds like a lie to me. Or he's intentionally sabotaging the whole thing to justify bringing in foreigners.

Otherwise, we're supposed to believe there aren't 5000 people in this country who would kill for a job that pays $120K a year?

Or here's a thought, why not hire 10,000 workers, pay them 60K a year, and train them to do the job of someone you'd pay $120K a year. When half of them quit because they can't hack it, you have your 5000 mechanics.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (c5SyZ)

63 54 I have had the younger engineers at work tell me that a lot of their friends and fellow graduates have not found jobs and they personally felt lucky they did.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 12:35 PM (3uBP9)

29 year olds have no idea how bad the job market is for recent grads. Their attitude is still “work harder ya lazy bum”. OK work where? Every position I apply to has 100 applicants, and almost always the person hired is a foreigner or DEI.

But yeah work harder man.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (u9SGQ)

64 "Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”."

Bullshit.

Ask the CEO of Ford about this.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:15 PM

Yep he was on TV last week saying that he has over 50,000 unfilled auto mechanic jobs that start at $120,000 a year with no takers.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (0N4FZ)

65 American, college age kids are ill equipped to enter the workforce and do anything meaningful unless they're reeducated.

It's sort of a double edged sword we're dealing with.

This... How many threads have we had that covered how woefully unprepared American Students seem to be ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (VE6XX)

66 Here's an idea. We continue to take lots of foreign students whose governments are paying their full tuition, but they are required to get an undergraduate degree in an entirely inappropriate "Studies" subject before they are allowed into a STEM program.

"Welcome to African Studies, Chin Lo!"
"Welcome to Feminine Studies, Achmed!"

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:39 PM (zZSxi)

67 I'm not against having foreign students in this country (though many of you are horrified that there exists an Outside World). HOWEVER, I like the idea of reducing the number admitted here. Preference given to countries allied with the United States. The PRC? Hell no. Look into why the PRC Consulate in Houston was forced to close.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:39 PM (vwL3N)

68 "Welcome to African Studies, Chin Lo!"
"Welcome to Feminine Studies, Achmed!"
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:39 PM (zZSxi)

LOL... I like it...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2025 12:39 PM (VE6XX)

69 Sounds like a lie to me. Or he's intentionally sabotaging the whole thing to justify bringing in foreigners.

Otherwise, we're supposed to believe there aren't 5000 people in this country who would kill for a job that pays $120K a year?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM (c5SyZ)

Glad someone else gets it.

I’d bet the requirements for this job make it impossible for anyone to qualify. You need 10 years experience in something that has only existed for 5 years that kind of thing.

And then ford will be like look man we have no choice but to bring in 5000 Mexicans to do these jobs. Oh and we’ll only pay $40k a year after all.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:40 PM (u9SGQ)

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Posted by: Aliassmithsmith... the anal behind anal sex at November 16, 2025 12:41 PM (VLrJZ)

71 >>> The universities also have greater control over foreign students because of their student visas...they will do pretty much what they are told....

Take off your shirts for State University Coeds Gone Wild!
would be better than some "instructor" who cannot speak American much less understand it

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 12:41 PM (/lPRQ)

72 Farewell, MTG. We hardly knew yee.

https://tinyurl.com/4vmvbsr6

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 12:41 PM (3HyZi)

73 I'm out.. You all have a wonderful Sunday...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2025 12:42 PM (VE6XX)

74 "More H1Bs. Did you?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald "

Nope. Voted for PDT, for better or worse

Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:42 PM (hHrs+)

75 "Certainly the panicked CEOs of many corporations will trot out examples -- real or imagined -- where their businesses will be injured by shutting down the supply of foreign labor, but each of those CEOs should be invited to fund American training systems that will generate domestic labor supply. That's what they should have been doing a long time ago." OK, but I should point out that they, and the rest of us, pour obscene amounts of money into a school system that cranks out masses of functional illiterates each spring. If we concentrate on developing human capital right here in this country the corporations will have very little room to complain.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:42 PM (vwL3N)

76 It’s a little scary how everyone just accepts the word of Ford’s CEO at face value. If we had an actual news media in this country someone would ask to see proof of these supposed 5000 jobs going unfilled.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (u9SGQ)

77 Awhile back I saw a list of colleges and universities that may well fold in the next decade. Some well known, and important ones.

Imported students are helping them keep afloat, it's also diluting the value of those schools to the US, bring in Chinese spies, commie Hindus and anti West Muslims.

A real conundrum for our "knowledge-based economy" and future.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (wBaIH)

78 >>>Define "fair wage".

With a NUMBER.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Fair wage is a communist construct.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (1IBl2)

79 Nope. Voted for PDT, for better or worse
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:42 PM (hHrs+)

Well you’re getting the worse right about now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (u9SGQ)

80 Back when I worked as a mechanic I made about $30k a year. $120k would have been in a dream job .

Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:44 PM (hHrs+)

81 >>>If we had an actual news media in this country someone would ask to see proof of these supposed 5000 jobs going unfilled.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I'd like to hear the bOd to explain why is has a job at Ford.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:44 PM (1IBl2)

82 Back when I worked as a mechanic I made about $30k a year. $120k would have been in a dream job .
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:44 PM (hHrs+)

It still is a dream because it doesn’t exist. Ford’s CEO is full of shit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:45 PM (u9SGQ)

83
Do it now, and the American people will thank President Trump, the Republican Party, and the pro-American legislators who pushed back against the globalists!
Posted by: CBD

That's just not whom we are, old chap.
-GOPe

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 16, 2025 12:45 PM (QVmho)

84 Well you’re getting the worse right about now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Horse Shit

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:45 PM (1IBl2)

85 In Trump's interview with Ingram, he seemed to say if we don't import a bunch of Chinese and other foreign students, traditional black colleges will go out of business.

Huh?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:14 PM (c5SyZ)
*****
The problem is with our universities is they aren't teaching STEM, instead they're teaching Gender Studies

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 12:45 PM (NpAcC)

86 "Well you’re getting the worse right about now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald"

Yeah, I should probably bail on him before it gets even worse.

Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:46 PM (hHrs+)

87
"I’d bet the requirements for this job make it impossible for anyone to qualify. You need 10 years experience in something that has only existed for 5 years that kind of thing.

"And then ford will be like look man we have no choice but to bring in 5000 Mexicans to do these jobs. Oh and we’ll only pay $40k a year after all."

Or they require union membership. Especially in non-RTW states. Do not underestimate the lure of not having to deal with the headache inducing unions.
Why did Toyota build factories where they did? They could have gone to, say, Youngstown, OH, but did not. Nor Nissan, or Hyundai, or BMW.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:46 PM (vwL3N)

88 Awhile back I saw a list of colleges and universities that may well fold in the next decade. Some well known, and important ones.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (wBaIH)

There are no "important" colleges and universities.

Only the students. That's the reason they exist, and they are clearly failing at providing educations that benefit those students and the nation as a whole.

The solution is most certainly NOT bringing in more foreigners.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:46 PM (c5SyZ)

89 I could do one of those Ford machinist jobs but not the commute.

Posted by: Reforger at November 16, 2025 12:47 PM (phGCW)

90 The problem is with our universities is they aren't teaching STEM, instead they're teaching Gender Studies
Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 12:45 PM (NpAcC)

There’s plenty of stem taught. There are about 125k comp sci graduates each yeah from US colleges. But also 85K H1Bs every year.

Gee I wonder if that hurts or helps those 125k or not.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:47 PM (u9SGQ)

91 The problem is with our universities is they aren't teaching STEM, instead they're teaching Gender Studies
Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 12:45 PM (NpAcC)

And HSs. We do a lot of high end manufacturing, and companies around the world outsource TO the United States. But if we crank out armies of functional illiterates each spring...well, why should anyone do business here?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:48 PM (vwL3N)

92 "OK, but I should point out that they, and the rest of us, pour obscene amounts of money into a school system that cranks out masses of functional illiterates each spring. If we concentrate on developing human capital right here in this country the corporations will have very little room to complain."

RIGHT ON BROTHER!!!!

Problems today is what do we do in the meantime?

This will takes years to produce any yields even after you defeat the teachers unions.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:48 PM (sPsWv)

93 I attend honor university and undefined. Oh my get afraid they're grads. Cuny believes when educated citizen about a woman citizen
80% graduate debt throw

foreign students? what shook schools oh typically questions you non resident tuition two
runs 50 to 100% higher.

foreign students you're china killed does bringing writing values have come

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith... the anal behind anal sex at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (VLrJZ)

94 The CEO of Ford also approved the Ford Lightning EV pickup, which is being shut down after losing Ford billions of dollars.
I think this should color our opinion of what he has to say about the state of machinist jobs.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (zZSxi)

95 Yeah, I should probably bail on him before it gets even worse.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:46 PM (hHrs+)

It’s not black and white man. It’s ok to criticize him.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (u9SGQ)

96 There’s plenty of stem taught. There are about 125k comp sci graduates each yeah from US colleges. But also 85K H1Bs every year.

Gee I wonder if that hurts or helps those 125k or not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:47 PM (u9SGQ)

There's more to STEM than computer science.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (vwL3N)

97 80 Back when I worked as a mechanic I made about $30k a year. $120k would have been in a dream job .
Posted by: fd
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A motorhead friend graduated with a double major, one of them STEM. He went work for Ford as a mechanic. He loved it. He would come to town when would do a continuing education class for the mechanics. Last I heard he owned a Ford Dealership in his hometown.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (1IBl2)

98 In California, Newsom recycles you!

https://tinyurl.com/2bha3ssz

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (3HyZi)

99 >>> Job Prospects for 2026 College Grads to Hit 5-Year Low While Employers Eye AI, Foreign Labor

Business is largely run by Ivy League nepo-babies with IQs of the stale beer soaked shag carpet in the basement of their frat house. They generally lack the aptitude to recognize anyone with superior* knowledge but when they do will react in fear of loosing their inherited Blueblood positions and do everything to keep that person down.

* Insert snarky footnote here...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (/lPRQ)

100 Foreign students from China return home bringing American values with them

—

And stolen IP.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (u9SGQ)

101 Whether enrollment what you usa peaked 16 years high

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith... the anal behind anal sex at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (VLrJZ)

102 Automotive engineering covers a lot of stuff. Mechanical, electrical, computers, ergonomics, and so on. I'd presume Ford isn't looking for 5000 people with skills in all that, but work in that sort of environment.

Cooperatively.

Which is a skill sadly lacking with a lot of college grads.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (NwnyJ)

103 I could do one of those Ford machinist jobs but not the commute.
Posted by: Reforger at November 16, 2025 12:47 PM (phGCW)

Doesn't Frod have dealerships (and repair shops) all over the country?

Where are these 5000 jobs located?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (c5SyZ)

104 11 Universities, corporations… they’re all broken. Reminds me of this piece;

https://tinyurl.com/e2wh4uam

Everything. Is. Broken.

Add media, churches, government, medicine… everything

I must be in a foul mood today because I’m pessimistic
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:09 PM (IurwF)

Everything is indeed broken, and it's all by design.

Posted by: It's all ops, fake and gay at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (TbWk/)

105 Yeah, I should probably bail on him before it gets even worse.
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:46 PM (hHrs+)

I'm sure not going to vote for Trump in 2028!

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (zZSxi)

106 It sucks to be aging out and not have any Americans around to fill your shoes.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:51 PM (sPsWv)

107 DAKKADAKKA @DAKKADAKKA1

They have this Luciferian demonic mentality where any amount of lying. Crimes or deceptions is perfectly acceptable in their culture if it benefits them at all. They are worse than Nigerians. The Chinese. Anyone.

Bruce @bruce_barrett

Air India says 30% of passengers on India-US flights ask for wheelchairs.

Most are able bodied travelers scamming the priority boarding system.

Real disabled passengers get left short.

X video: https://bit.ly/4r0yWkO

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (P5BPp)

108
"Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”."
Bullshit.
Ask the CEO of Ford about this.
Posted by: pawn

The CEO of Ford needs to hire high school kids, train them, and pay them fairly to be his mechanics. It's that fucking simple.

I need to hire an intel analyst for my team to essentially be a spook, digging into the competitor's design, team, and technology. That's not a skill you learn in klown kollege, so I'm recruiting exclisivly from the military skill bridge program, and training the skills i need into a retiring warrant officer from a field that grows critical thinkers. Dude doesn't have a bachelor's degree, but i'll hire him and pay for his bachelor's degree if he shows the talent for it as I train him up.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (QVmho)

109 93: tell me you have never been to the PRC without saying you have never been to the PRC. I have been to the PRC, and trust me, what you just said is crap. The Chinese students that come here are CPC approved.

Really, instead of trolling, touch grass and learn. I'd suggest reading up on why the Chinese Consulate in Houston was ordered to close. Hint: it has to do with all these sweethearts and future Chinese equivalents of Jefferson, Franklin and Washington you insist we send back to the PRC.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (vwL3N)

110 Nope. Voted for PDT, for better or worse
Posted by: fd at November 16, 2025 12:42 PM (hHrs+)

Well you’re getting the worse right about now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (u9SGQ)

I really don’t understand this attitude. PDJT is the best president by far of my lifetime and you seem to relish trashing him. Is he perfect? Obviously no… but he’s so much better than any alternative. Perhaps some gratitude for what the man has done (and endured) would be in order….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (xT8gx)

111 Can we stop with the “schools aren’t teaching anything” stuff? Yes there are a lot of useless “studies” degrees. But American schools are still some of the best places to learn engineering, cs, and other sciences.

Don’t fall into this trap like Trump has. It’s gaslighting by tech bros and people like Ford CEO into making you support unlimited immigration.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:53 PM (u9SGQ)

112 I'm old enough to remember when Republicans argued for giving Chi Nah Most Favored Nation status, saying they would import our "American values" and then overthrow the commies.

Yeah. They really really did.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:53 PM (c5SyZ)

113 Lol
over and you shitty trump economy have negative how's growth not you Mr 3 months
whether grads you're get supposed years really having each how's prospects

me about get if you economy stupid

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith... the anal behind anal sex at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM (VLrJZ)

114 I know not to quote the trolls, but this has me really intrigued: Is this line just bad AI, or a really bad translation bot? Or maybe both together?

"foreign students you're china killed does bringing writing values have come"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM (uWKK8)

115 you seem to relish trashing him
-

Yes I’m trashing this 500k Chinese students insanity and his support of H1Bs.

It’s a abhorrent and goes against everything America First he supposedly stands for.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM (u9SGQ)

116 Business is largely run by Ivy League nepo-babies with IQs of the stale beer soaked shag carpet in the basement of their frat house. They generally lack the aptitude to recognize anyone with superior* knowledge but when they do will react in fear of loosing their inherited Blueblood positions and do everything to keep that person down.

Or DEI hires, who get paid millions to destroy established businesses but have immunity from consequences because of the color of their skin or their female genitalia.

Posted by: And it's all garbage at November 16, 2025 12:55 PM (TbWk/)

117 Business is largely run by Ivy League nepo-babies with IQs of the stale beer soaked shag carpet in the basement of their frat house. They generally lack the aptitude to recognize anyone with superior* knowledge but when they do will react in fear of loosing their inherited Blueblood positions and do everything to keep that person down.

* Insert snarky footnote here...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 12:50 PM (/lPRQ)

Are you suggesting people should be hired for piffling things like "merit" and "aptitude" rather than being "networked" and "knowing people" and "making strategic friends"?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:55 PM (vwL3N)

118 Air India says 30% of passengers on India-US flights ask for wheelchairs.

Most are able bodied travelers scamming the priority boarding system.

Real disabled passengers get left short.

X video: https://bit.ly/4r0yWkO
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (P5BPp)

Of all the indicators that it's time for God to just end this experiment, I'm not sure there's a better one than people asking for wheelchairs so they can board a plane sooner.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:55 PM (c5SyZ)

119 But if we crank out armies of functional illiterates each spring...well, why should anyone do business here?
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:48 PM (vwL3N)

^^^
This. My place has room for unlimited advancement if you can grasp the basics. 4 out of 5 don't last two weeks at the basics. This is easy shit, where a part number is located, which way to feed something into a machine, how to use a scanner etc... All of which can damage million dollar machinery or cause loss of final product for no reason other than traceability. It blows me away how many just can't grasp even the simple stuff.
Try explaining downstream consequences to a 20 yo these days.

Posted by: Reforger at November 16, 2025 12:55 PM (phGCW)

120 Are you suggesting people should be hired for piffling things like "merit" and "aptitude" rather than being "networked" and "knowing people" and "making strategic friends"?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:55 PM (vwL3N)

Sounds ray-cist.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:56 PM (u9SGQ)

121 Air India says 30% of passengers on India-US flights ask for wheelchairs.

Most are able bodied travelers scamming the priority boarding system.

Real disabled passengers get left short.

X video: https://bit.ly/4r0yWkO
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (P5BPp)

See also Disney World

Posted by: Happens all over at November 16, 2025 12:56 PM (TbWk/)

122 Trump really stepped on his dick in that interview with Laura Ingraham.

Wanna kiss goodbye support from young white men? That’s how you do it. You tell them they’re too stupid to do tech jobs and we need to import Chinese and Indians instead.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:08 PM

Not just young white men, but 49-year old white male engineers like me who were laid off and saw our engineering jobs outsourced to cheap labor BCC (Best Cost Country) workers in India, Mexico and people from India living in Canada.

Automotive companies have been doing this since the Plandemic. Pushing out thousands of American engineers and replacing them with remote-working, cheap labor people, paying them 1/4 to 1/3 of the salary previously paid to experienced, efficient American engineer.

My department in product development engineering used to be 100% American engineers in office. Now it is 75-90% outsourced BCC people in India. And NOT quality people, but barely high school educated quality people.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 12:56 PM (P5BPp)

123 I also love this idea that our universities aren’t teaching anything but Bombay U or Delhi College are? Lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:57 PM (u9SGQ)

124 112 I'm old enough to remember when Republicans argued for giving Chi Nah Most Favored Nation status, saying they would import our "American values" and then overthrow the commies.

Yeah. They really really did.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:53 PM (c5SyZ)

You missed their big Constitutional convention of 2017 where the CPC saw the error of their ways and invited thousands from all over China to write a new Constitution that formed the basis of a federal republic.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:57 PM (vwL3N)

125 "The CEO of Ford needs to hire high school kids, train them, and pay them fairly to be his mechanics. It's that fucking simple."

He might just do that. Up until just very recently everyone was telling kids they needed to go to college to get a job.

Now it's become obvious that this was crap.

There's a sea change going on.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:57 PM (sPsWv)

126 I know not to quote the trolls, but this has me really intrigued: Is this line just bad AI, or a really bad translation bot? Or maybe both together?

"foreign students you're china killed does bringing writing values have come"
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM (uWKK

I was wondering if maybe CBD was changing the text.

I don't think AI is that bad at writing.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 12:58 PM (c5SyZ)

127 you seem to relish trashing him
-

Yes I’m trashing this 500k Chinese students insanity and his support of H1Bs.

It’s a abhorrent and goes against everything America First he supposedly stands for.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM (u9SGQ)

No… you’re trashing him personally… your use of the word “supposedly” is clear

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)

128 125 "The CEO of Ford needs to hire high school kids, train them, and pay them fairly to be his mechanics. It's that fucking simple."

He might just do that. Up until just very recently everyone was telling kids they needed to go to college to get a job."

And he needs to focus on hiring home schooled boys. Not women, not public school retards.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (uWKK8)

129 Back when I started out in the field, manufacturers were bewailing how new engineers weren't being properly trained in college. What they really meant was they wanted somebody else to absorb the cost of training an engineer to design widgets for the Acme Widget Company.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (zZSxi)

130 >>> they would import our "American values" and then overthrow the commies.

Yeah. They really really did.
Posted by: BurtTC
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and then they allowed MBAs to administrate the programs

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (1IBl2)

131 My department in product development engineering used to be 100% American engineers in office. Now it is 75-90% outsourced BCC people in India. And NOT quality people, but barely high school educated quality people.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 12:56 PM (P5BPp)

Stop complaining and work harder ya lazy bum.
- boomers

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (u9SGQ)

132
@113

I think ASS had a stroke.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (iJfKG)

133 It seems like the West is becoming fatigued with Hindus.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 16, 2025 01:00 PM (wBaIH)

134 America First

Not as simple as it seems.

As always, the Devil is in the details.

Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 01:00 PM (sPsWv)

135 The skilled labor pool isn't that deep. Ford as noted by folks can't find skilled people who could make $120k per year very quickly.
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Then take the time to train someone who was born here to do it.

No business is entitled to "skilled people" right now.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2025 01:00 PM (vSvIl)

136 Stop complaining and work harder ya lazy bum.
- boomers
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (u9SGQ)

You know, they aren't wrong...

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:00 PM (vwL3N)

137 Ford needs a new CEO. It may also need to replace some Blackstone BODs. Wonder how many are on the board.
There are three on Exon's.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:01 PM (1IBl2)

138 I'm with BurtTC on this, if they were willing to put in the effort they could make the mechanics via training. So many positions that insist that you have irrelevant qualifications (10-20 years after graduation, is any IT degree actually relevant to someone who's been in IT that long, given the rapidity of change? Why do I need 5 years experience in the health care industry for a Cloud Admin position? Why do I need experience in your particular incident management or version control software if I'm not going to be modifying it? etc)

Any job that can be done remotely, should not require 'in the office', but some of that appears to be limited by things like state-by-state employer tax registrations for companies. Which is something that as much as I hate to say it, Congress should at least work/direct the IRS to come up with a solution for.

Of course, Congress. Never met a responsibility they didn't want to un-Constitutionally delegate and/or ignore.

Posted by: RandomDave at November 16, 2025 01:01 PM (aJQbY)

139 128 125 "The CEO of Ford needs to hire high school kids, train them, and pay them fairly to be his mechanics. It's that fucking simple."

He might just do that. Up until just very recently everyone was telling kids they needed to go to college to get a job."

And he needs to focus on hiring home schooled boys. Not women, not public school retards.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (uWKK

He won’t do any of that. Because American CEOs only care about the next quarter. Training kids is a multi year plan that requires long term
Investment that won’t pay off for years down the line.

There is 0 incentive for him or any other ceo to do that. His bonus is tied to next quarter not what happens in 2030.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 01:02 PM (u9SGQ)

140 I thought her job was to shut it down:

https://tinyurl.com/2269cd5e

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 01:02 PM (3HyZi)

141 Define "fair wage".

With a NUMBER.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Fair wage is a communist construct.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 12:43 PM (1IBl2)

Supply and demand are a thing.

"Fair" is whatever amount it takes to attract the employee you want.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2025 01:02 PM (vSvIl)

142
114 I know not to quote the trolls, but this has me really intrigued: Is this line just bad AI, or a really bad translation bot? Or maybe both together?

"foreign students you're china killed does bringing writing values have come"
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM

------

That's not the original text posted by the troll. The management has run it through a random gibberish generating engine.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (VWtfl)

143 There’s plenty of stem taught. There are about 125k comp sci graduates each yeah from US colleges. But also 85K H1Bs every year.

Gee I wonder if that hurts or helps those 125k or not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:47 PM (u9SGQ)

There's more to STEM than computer science.
Posted by: Cow Demon
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No kidding. I find myself wondering just what the hell we need with 125 thousand computer science grads/year? If that number is real, then educational priorities seem to have been seriously skewed. Oh, wait...did I say 'seem'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (XeU6L)

144 Stop complaining and work harder ya lazy bum.
- boomers
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (u9SGQ)

‘You should show more appreciation. No! More zeal!
- YoyoDyne exec

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (i+bC1)

145 Who really cares about some random comments made to lesbian RINO Ingram?

Closet Trump haters, naturally.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (wBaIH)

146 136 Stop complaining and work harder ya lazy bum.
- boomers
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (u9SGQ)

You know, they aren't wrong...
Posted by: Cow Demon at November
---------

Looking at the winners and losers column it appears that those in the winners column always worked longer and harder.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:04 PM (1IBl2)

147
I really don’t understand this attitude. PDJT is the best president by far of my lifetime and you seem to relish trashing him. Is he perfect? Obviously no… but he’s so much better than any alternative. Perhaps some gratitude for what the man has done (and endured) would be in order….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:52 PM (xT8gx)

On AoS, you are either ideologically pure or you need to be run out of the country.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:04 PM (vwL3N)

148 I think ASS had a stroke.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2025 12:59 PM (iJfKG)

Hopefully he has a sock nearby, before his mom walks in.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:04 PM (c5SyZ)

149 Why do I need 5 years experience in the health care industry for a Cloud Admin position?
—

Yes!!!

I’ve seen this so many times. Data is data. A API is a API. Doesn’t matter what industry it is. Yet you’re excluding 90% of potential candidates because they don’t have “industry experience”.

And then they go well we have to hire Sanjeeev because his fake resume says 10 years of health care industry.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 01:05 PM (u9SGQ)

150 In fact, a major overhaul would be quite simple. End H1B visas. End the OPT program.

Abso-fucking-lutely. Enough of foreigners lying and cheating to game the system through fraud and then taking our jobs. And the Deep State doing everything to allow it and encourage it.

In addition, take steps to punish companies for outsourcing jobs to retards in India and Mexico and people from India living in Canada. 17 out of 20 of the people in my product development department are no-experience, no-work-ethic, low-IQ inefficient idiots remote-"working" in India. Prior to the formation of Stellantis and prior to the Plandemic, the entire department was in office and experienced, efficient American engineers.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:05 PM (P5BPp)

151 Several of My black cow orkers have bragged for years that they get wheelchairs at airports. They get free check in bags and get wheeled to the gate and priority boarding.

They have no physical deficits whatsoever.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2025 01:05 PM (mT+6a)

152 That's not the original text posted by the troll. The management has run it through a random gibberish generating engine.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (VWtfl)

ok that makes sense. It was entertaining, and I'm sure contained as much value as the original words.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:06 PM (uWKK8)

153 Fair pay has historically been defined as "25% more than I'm being paid."

It used to be a carrot that Americans worked for, now it's something shitbirds want mandated by fiat.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 16, 2025 01:07 PM (wBaIH)

154
I know lawyers who's whole practice involves defending small companies against lawsuits by their own employees. This usually involves people who have been with the company less than a year.

Most of these suits are meritless extortion attempts that are brought as nuisance actions with the hope of a quick insurance company payoff.

I won't comment on which young people are bringing these suits up but D.E.I.

Posted by: Auspex at November 16, 2025 01:07 PM (Y8DZL)

155 I’ve seen this so many times. Data is data. A API is a API. Doesn’t matter what industry it is. Yet you’re excluding 90% of potential candidates because they don’t have “industry experience”.

And then they go well we have to hire Sanjeeev because his fake resume says 10 years of health care industry.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 01:05 PM (u9SGQ)

Which probably involved him scraping the crusts of his grandmothers dirty callouses on her feet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK8)

156 Fair pay and living wage are synonyms.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:08 PM (1IBl2)

157 ‘You should show more appreciation. No! More zeal!
- YoyoDyne exec
Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (i+bC1)

I noticed you only have 15 pieces of flair on your uniform.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:09 PM (c5SyZ)

158 They have no physical deficits whatsoever.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2025 01:05 PM (mT+6a)

Pisses me off. The only time I did this was on SWA years ago when I was getting around on crutches after screwing up my ankle. But that was a NEED.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM (vwL3N)

159 Several of My black cow orkers have bragged for years that they get wheelchairs at airports. They get free check in bags and get wheeled to the gate and priority boarding.

They have no physical deficits whatsoever.
Posted by: nurse ratched

No shame or embarrassment.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM (LjSYW)

160 Add media, churches, government, medicine… everything

I must be in a foul mood today because I’m pessimistic
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

That's not pessimism, it's where we are. Add sports to your mix of broken, sick institutions that were formally respected. We are in an extended Judgement Day, God has removed His hand of restraint and all are off the leash, doing everything their corrupt hearts and minds have always wanted to do. Biblical evidence points to 2033 being the end of all things visible.

Posted by: Crying Out In The Wilderness. at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM (oftw2)

161 "... many of them don't speak English well enough to be effective instructors, but the universities certainly don't care."

On my path to becoming the next Field's Medal recipient, I ran into a TA (teacher assistant) for Differential Equations that did not speak understandable English. So I switched into horticulture. heh

There were other reasons, but I could not understand anything the guy said, so I did drop the class, despite Acing the Calculus class (140?) before that. So sad for the average American student.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 16, 2025 01:11 PM (vbXSk)

162
No kidding. I find myself wondering just what the hell we need with 125 thousand computer science grads/year? If that number is real, then educational priorities seem to have been seriously skewed. Oh, wait...did I say 'seem'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (XeU6L)

It's as if the only industry we have related to computers and IT. Even though that is not the case of course.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:11 PM (vwL3N)

163 Fair pay and living wage are synonyms.

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With from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 01:12 PM (L/fGl)

164
Most of these suits are meritless extortion attempts that are brought as nuisance actions with the hope of a quick insurance company payoff.

I won't comment on which young people are bringing these suits up but D.E.I.

Posted by: Auspex
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Have experienced that. Overt and obvious nuisance suit against the company. Brought by a temp worker. Turned out he had done it (successsfully) before. I will not comment on the DEI aspect, but it was present.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:13 PM (XeU6L)

165 They have no physical deficits whatsoever.
Posted by: nurse ratched

No shame or embarrassment.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM (LjSYW)

Ever since the Great Society, sadly, black culture has become a culture of entitlement and dependency. In the long run it has hurt them more than anyone around them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:14 PM (uWKK8)

166 Biblical evidence points to 2033 being the end of all things visible.
Posted by: Crying Out In The Wilderness. at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM (oftw2)

Isn't there something in the Bible about no one knowing the time or the hour or some such thing? (In the Book of Matthew IIRC)

Seals it for me. The End Times have been predicted countless times and have been wrong countless times. Even so, "Our creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us." (h/t, Robert W. Pratt)

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:14 PM (vwL3N)

167 This is all that bastard Emmanuel Goldstein's fault!

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 01:14 PM (zZSxi)

168 Wasn't Trump elected to end this b.s.?

Why, Yes. Yes, he was.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:14 PM (CA6zO)

169 That's not pessimism, it's where we are. Add sports to your mix of broken, sick institutions that were formally respected. We are in an extended Judgement Day, God has removed His hand of restraint and all are off the leash, doing everything their corrupt hearts and minds have always wanted to do. Biblical evidence points to 2033 being the end of all things visible.
Posted by: Crying Out In The Wilderness. at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM (oftw2)

Societies, nations do fall. There are signs that point to it.

Whether one sees it as Divine intervention, or just the folly of man, making the same mistakes that have been made for eons...

To be accused of being "black pilled" does not bother me. I'm certainly willing to be embarrassed by all the "I told you so" comments. That when everything turns out alright, I'll have to eat crow. Or my hat. Or lima beans. Whatever.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:15 PM (o63Ok)

170 Not necessarily. It depends on the job. I know because I’m in engineering; we design large complex aerospace systems. Hundreds of engineers involved in each design… the amount of collaboration needed cannot be done remotely, full stop. We tried during covid and it was a disaster… our executive leadership has been begging then forcing engineers back into the office ever since...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 12:19 PM

Bingo. Exactly. The same applies in the auto industry. Stellantis' North America engineering head stated emphatically last year when we were still working remotely that you cannot develop and engineer a vehicle remotely. We need to be collaborating in the office.

Fast forward to March of this year and we were back in office, 3-5 days per week.

Except... they have yet to change the company-crippling BCC policy, where 75% of our engineering department is made up of remote-working, cheap labor idiots in India and Mexico. The policy states that if any department wants to hire an American worker, they have to have 4-5 BCCs for every American worker. Fucking ridiculous. That's NOT hiring based on skill and expertise, but based on cheap labor.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:15 PM (P5BPp)

171 This has been going on for decades.

My uncle was a recruiter for a university. Foreign nationals have to pay full freight, among other things. The whole thing is a scam, just like everything else.

It will probably end with a whimper, not a bang, because the allure used to be our top notch colleges and universities. That is increasingly no longer the case. Still good engineering schools and top level scientific research but the trend is not going in the right direction at all.

What they have done to our children, to the schools and colleges, is nothing short of criminal.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 16, 2025 01:15 PM (I/Icm)

172 Isn't there something in the Bible about no one knowing the time or the hour or some such thing? (In the Book of Matthew IIRC)

Seals it for me. The End Times have been predicted countless times and have been wrong countless times. Even so, "Our creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us." (h/t, Robert W. Pratt)
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:14 PM (vwL3N)

I have this recurring fear, maybe it's a recurring bad dream, that the end times will come and all of the terrible things will happen, and then it will be over and I'll still be here with a few others and God will hand us all brooms and say "Ok you guys clean all this mess up."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:16 PM (uWKK8)

173 That's NOT hiring based on skill and expertise, but based on cheap labor.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:15 PM (P5BPp)

It is one thing to want cheap labor and yet another to sacrifice quality product for cheap labor.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:17 PM (vwL3N)

174 I have a legitimate handicapped placard but I rarely use it. I get along pretty well with my cane as long as I don't have to walk too far and the ground is not too steep or uneven. I save the parking spaces for people who really need them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 01:17 PM (L/fGl)

175 I have this recurring fear, maybe it's a recurring bad dream, that the end times will come and all of the terrible things will happen, and then it will be over and I'll still be here with a few others and God will hand us all brooms and say "Ok you guys clean all this mess up."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:16 PM (uWKK

Yeah, but think of the great wages and sweet benefits!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2025 01:18 PM (iJfKG)

176 Only time I ever used priority boarding was when I was traveling by myself with a babe in arms.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2025 01:18 PM (5dHQx)

177 A "fair wage" should be the actual market wage - what it takes to attract and retain a qualified worker. However, illegal immigration, currency devaluation/inflation, monopolistic/oligopolistic manipulation, visa program abuse, globalization and a host of other phenomena designed to benefit a small cadre of individuals have all kept wages artificially suppressed, especially when considering relative buying power. We don't have a free market at present that can provide a "fair wage," we have a manipulated market designed to get the C-suite their bonuses and the hedge fund managers their billions.

Posted by: Corporatism sucks at November 16, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)

178 There’s plenty of stem taught. There are about 125k comp sci graduates each yeah from US colleges. But also 85K H1Bs every year.

Gee I wonder if that hurts or helps those 125k or not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 12:47 PM (u9SGQ)

There's more to STEM than computer science.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 12:49 PM (vwL3N)
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This current crop of students just aren't ambitious or smart.

Employers are finding out that these recent graduates are lacking in basic skills.

The education system has failed us.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

179 "foreign students you're china killed does bringing writing values have come"
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:54 PM

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That's not the original text posted by the troll. The management has run it through a random gibberish generating engine.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 16, 2025 01:03 PM (VWtfl)
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That is a bad translation from Mandarin, the only language our troll can read.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:19 PM (CA6zO)

180 The world ended in September 1975, didn't you know?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:20 PM (CA6zO)

181 I recall a Math professor in 2001 urging US students to go into STEM and not relinquish the field to the Chinese.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at November 16, 2025 01:20 PM (Sa32A)

182 Yeah, but think of the great wages and sweet benefits!
Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2025 01:18 PM (iJfKG)

If it's just me and Sydney Sweeney that are left, I will gladly pick up a broom.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:20 PM (o63Ok)

183 But India has designed SO many iconic car over the years.
Stelantis need to go back to YJ and XJ jeeps and stop ruining everything. Hell make a CJ5 or 7 again and I'll bet they fly off the showroom floor... if they even make it that far.

Posted by: Reforger at November 16, 2025 01:20 PM (phGCW)

184 ------
Have experienced that. Overt and obvious nuisance suit against the company. Brought by a temp worker. Turned out he had done it (successsfully) before. I will not comment on the DEI aspect, but it was present.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Leave out not judges who allow these nuisance suits to come before the court instead of chastising the lawyers who bring them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:21 PM (1IBl2)

185 177 A "fair wage" should be the actual market wage - what it takes to attract and retain a qualified worker. However, illegal immigration, currency devaluation/inflation, monopolistic/oligopolistic manipulation, visa program abuse, globalization and a host of other phenomena designed to benefit a small cadre of individuals have all kept wages artificially suppressed, especially when considering relative buying power. We don't have a free market at present that can provide a "fair wage," we have a manipulated market designed to get the C-suite their bonuses and the hedge fund managers their billions.
Posted by: Corporatism sucks at November 16, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)

It's always refreshing to see people seeing things my way.

Posted by: Karl Marx at November 16, 2025 01:22 PM (vwL3N)

186 This NPC is fully updated and ready to go!

https://tinyurl.com/mpmz9rnn

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 01:22 PM (3HyZi)

187 This current crop of students just aren't ambitious or smart.

Employers are finding out that these recent graduates are lacking in basic skills.

The education system has failed us.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

Hey, remember when all the blue hairs and other assorted harpies were complaining about how there weren't enough girls and LBGT in the STEM majors?

I bet that resulted in things getting MUCH better.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:22 PM (o63Ok)

188 It's always refreshing to see people seeing things my way.

Posted by: Karl Marx at November 16, 2025 01:22 PM (vwL3N)

That's not at all how Marx would see it. Don't be retarded.

Posted by: At least try to rein it in a bit at November 16, 2025 01:23 PM (TbWk/)

189 This current crop of students just aren't ambitious or smart.

Employers are finding out that these recent graduates are lacking in basic skills.

The education system has failed us.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

And this is on us: are school boards or other government officials held accountable?

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:24 PM (vwL3N)

190 Leave out not judges who allow these nuisance suits to come before the court instead of chastising the lawyers who bring them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:21 PM (1IBl2)

Didn't some guy a hundred years ago say something about killing all the lawyers?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:24 PM (o63Ok)

191
Hal Lindsey made a 50 year career out of linking biblical text directly to events that would end the "Late Great Planet Earth" next spring.

Posted by: Auspex at November 16, 2025 01:25 PM (Y8DZL)

192 "Pay a fair wage and Americans will do all the jobs “Americans won’t do”."

Bullshit.

Ask the CEO of Ford about this.
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 12:15 PM (sPsWv)

I believe he was offering $17 per hour to qualified mechanics, to work in dealerships where the charge-out labor rate is something like $150/ hour.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2025 01:25 PM (npFr7)

193 Every time someone in Christianity says they know when the rapture will happen I say to myself: Okay, it’s not happening then….

Evangelicals (I’m one so I can criticize from within) seem to have a weakness for this kind of nonsense (despite scripture saying no man knows the day or hour.. and Jesus saying like a thief in the night)… personally I blame Jerry Jenkins’ ridiculous left behind series…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:25 PM (xT8gx)

194 "He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore."

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So I guess even during the millennium we're going to have to work using plowshares and pruning hooks. The commies aren't going to like that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 01:25 PM (L/fGl)

195 "Our universities eagerly accept foreigners because they pay full tuition, and in many cases additional fees...never mind that they are taking spots that have been funded by American taxpayers for American students."

The most egregious example of this is in the vaunted UC system that CBD is very well aware of. It was *created* to give CA residents a chance at an excellent, affordable education. They now get enormous amounts of revenue from foreign students paying full-boat tuitions in cash. This is literally crowding out native CA residents who can't attend UCLA or Cal because there's no spots for them.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2025 01:25 PM (0CU3H)

196 Yes Auspex… and Hal Lindsey’s silly book as well

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:26 PM (xT8gx)

197 So I guess even during the millennium we're going to have to work using plowshares and pruning hooks. The commies aren't going to like that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 01:25 PM (L/fGl)

PlowShares? Is that some kind of new farming app?

Posted by: If not it should be at November 16, 2025 01:27 PM (TbWk/)

198 The skilled labor pool isn't that deep. Ford as noted by folks can't find skilled people who could make $120k per year very quickly.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 12:38 PM

Horseshit. Ford, like all the American auto companies over the past 5 years since the Plandemic, have been doing nothing but laying off experienced, efficient American engineers and replacing them with no-experience, no-work-ethic, cheap labor idiots in India, Mexico and Indians living in Canada.

Ford laid off 400 American engineers a couple years ago with the excuse that they were "ICE engineers" who couldn't possibly be quickly trained up to work on EVs.

So yeah, fuck Ford, GM and Stellantis. They have all been doing the same lying bullshit, laying off quality American engineers and outsourcing to cheap labor retards in India and Mexico, while gaslighting saying there are no Americans to do the jobs.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (P5BPp)

199 That's not at all how Marx would see it. Don't be retarded.
Posted by: At least try to rein it in a bit at November 16, 2025 01:23 PM (TbWk/)

Marx of course was a fat smelly lazy fart living in England, and he read a book on the troubles of German industrialization.

Problem was, by the time Marx sat down to write a book about it himself, that book he read was at least 20 years out of date, and the Germans had solved plenty of their problems related to making the working conditions and pay for laborers more fair.

A similar problem was had by Sinclair Lewis, when he wrote about American working conditions.

That these clowns are still worshipped by the left used to get laughed at by normal people.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (o63Ok)

200 Posted by: Karl Marx at November 16, 2025 01:22 PM (vwL3N)

That's not at all how Marx would see it. Don't be retarded.
Posted by: At least try to rein it in a bit at November 16, 2025 01:23 PM (TbWk/)

You sure about that? I wholeheartedly agree that illegal immigration is a serious problem, and I hate it on general principle. The rest may as well been written by him.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (vwL3N)

201 Lots of stories recently about Harvard grade inflation… apparently upon admittance you’re guaranteed an A average at Harvard. If I were a hiring manager I would not hire a Harvard grad

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (xT8gx)

202 Oh, look at this.

There's certainly enough money for UCSB to pay $7.8 million for a home for the new chancellor:

https://is.gd/ANzOkT

Yes, UCSB should own any home for the current chancellor to live in, but I think you can build Chateau Splendide for a lot less than $8 million, even in Santa Barbara.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2025 01:29 PM (0CU3H)

203 I have this recurring fear, maybe it's a recurring bad dream, that the end times will come and all of the terrible things will happen, and then it will be over and I'll still be here with a few others and God will hand us all brooms and say "Ok you guys clean all this mess up."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:16 PM (uWKK

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Fear not! Your worries are over!

https://tinyurl.com/mve37rzk

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 01:29 PM (3HyZi)

204 "Problem was, by the time Marx sat down to write a book about it himself, that book he read was at least 20 years out of date, and the Germans had solved plenty of their problems related to making the working conditions and pay for laborers more fair."

Marx above all failed to anticipate unionization.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:29 PM (vwL3N)

205 So yeah, fuck Ford, GM and Stellantis. They have all been doing the same lying bullshit, laying off quality American engineers and outsourcing to cheap labor retards in India and Mexico, while gaslighting saying there are no Americans to do the jobs.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (P5BPp)

No doubt a big part of the problem is the domestic car makers were held hostage by the unions, and their short term solution was to push as many of the jobs away from the union plants.

They are now suffering from their shitty vehicles being too expensive, constantly breaking down.

Meanwhile, Honda and Toyota and others have solved the riddle quite nicely.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:32 PM (o63Ok)

206 Jets player Kris Boyd shot last night in NYC outside a restaurant after midnight. And Mamdani isn't mayor yet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 01:32 PM (bfwj/)

207 Congress is useless as long as the filibuster rule exists.

However, if the immigration laws already on the books were enforced, our immigration numbers would drop to a round-off error.

Pro tip: Don’t listen to what Trump says; watch what he does.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at November 16, 2025 01:33 PM (jt/rW)

208 Fear not! Your worries are over!

https://tinyurl.com/mve37rzk
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 01:29 PM (3HyZi)

LOL, I've seen a photoshop of Elon Musk on Mars surrounded by a couple hundred of those guys.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:34 PM (uWKK8)

209 You sure about that? I wholeheartedly agree that illegal immigration is a serious problem, and I hate it on general principle. The rest may as well been written by him.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (vwL3N)

So you're saying that Marx endorsed a free market labor system free from government/corporatist collusion with sound monetary policy? You really are retarded. Communism (especially as applied) is designed so there is not a market but a control economy. Which is what you seem to implicitly endorse as long as it's done in a corporatist fascistic manner instead of by a politburo.

Posted by: Supporting free markets is now Marxist at November 16, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

210 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok

Juan Diego Mazuera Arias is from Colombia and was in the U.S. illegally.

He got a full scholarship to an American University because he was an illegal.

He worked for the DNC and then AOC.

Now he’s an elected City Councilmember in North Carolina and is crying about ICE.
@DHSgov
should look into this.

https://tinyurl.com/5add2nsb

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 01:35 PM (NpAcC)

211 Jets player Kris Boyd shot last night in NYC outside a restaurant after midnight. And Mamdani isn't mayor yet
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 01:32 PM (bfwj/)

I was gonna say the shooter must have been someone who saw the game against the Patriots on Thursday, but Boyd has been on injured reserve all season.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:35 PM (o63Ok)

212 201 Lots of stories recently about Harvard grade inflation… apparently upon admittance you’re guaranteed an A average at Harvard. If I were a hiring manager I would not hire a Harvard grad
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:28 PM (xT8gx)

And you will never be a hiring manager. Harvard is a place to network, "know people", and make strategic friends. No hiring manager cares about anything but those three skills.

The message American business sends is clear: "Network. Oh, you aren't networked? We don't give a fuck about your stupid merit and qualifications. GO FUCKING STARVE TO DEATH."

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:35 PM (vwL3N)

213 The world ended in September 1975, didn't you know?
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Barbara Tuchman observed that civilization ended in 1914.

To the extent that societies had been advancing civilizations prior to that, it is difficult to make a counter argument.

I fear that we, here in the U.S. have become Babylon. Technologically advanced, but morally in decay. It has certainly hapened to other cultures/civilizations.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

214 The message American business sends is clear: "Network. Oh, you aren't networked? We don't give a fuck about your stupid merit and qualifications. GO FUCKING STARVE TO DEATH."

If you boil the bootstraps long enough they get soft enough to eat.

Posted by: Don't taste very good though at November 16, 2025 01:37 PM (TbWk/)

215 Day took our jobs.

Posted by: Darryl Whethers at November 16, 2025 01:38 PM (phGCW)

216 * happened*, dammit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L)

217 End Times Christians are an interesting group. They are so intent on knowing when that they diligently study the Bible from every angle seeking to discern it's precise intent.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:39 PM (1IBl2)

218 Speaking of enchiladas, there's a tweet on Rantingly saying the Mexican palace has "fallen."

I don't see anything about it anywhere else.

Seems to me a revolution in Meh Hee Co would be kind of a big deal.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:39 PM (nuAS/)

219 i am a lowly adjunct professor at a Very Well Regarded state university, and while i can definitely endorse the implicit point about the foreign espionage and tech theft that begins in our universities, i am baffled at the suggestion that ending the h1-b system would not negatively impact american tech supremacy.

(current) american university students are by and large a toxic combination of entitled and incompetent: they do not understand math at a high-school level and are too lazy to put in the work to learn it, but they nevertheless *demand* degrees in highly quantitative fields for "putting in the work" by...turning in papers riddled with errors 2 weeks late yet demanding full marks due to "anxiety accommodations".

i find that many mainland chinese students, while numerically higher performing, are indeed extremely dishonest and cheat perhaps more than any readily identifiable group. but taiwanese or malaysian chinese are some of the best students one can hope for, as are most indian students.

if i were hiring in the tech sector, i'd much prefer one of these latter groups to most modern american students, the point about educating subversive foreigners notwithstanding.

Posted by: pH at November 16, 2025 01:39 PM (Whv7M)

220 All them there foreerners can have my job. I gots 1200 a month EBT, sell weed as a side hustle and once in a while do my porch pirate thingee. Life is good.

Posted by: democrat goblin at November 16, 2025 01:39 PM (R/m4+)

221 Barbara Tuchman is not a Jehovah's Witness.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:40 PM (CA6zO)

222 So you're saying that Marx endorsed a free market labor system free from government/corporatist collusion with sound monetary policy? You really are retarded. Communism (especially as applied) is designed so there is not a market but a control economy. Which is what you seem to implicitly endorse as long as it's done in a corporatist fascistic manner instead of by a politburo.
Posted by: Supporting free markets is now Marxist at November 16, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

You vomit an anti-capitalist screed, get called on it, and then resort to juvenile insults that went out with moving up to high school.. It's much easier than defending your position. That would require an intellectual depth you do not have.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:40 PM (vwL3N)

223 "... many of them don't speak English well enough to be effective instructors, but the universities certainly don't care."

On my path to becoming the next Field's Medal recipient, I ran into a TA (teacher assistant) for Differential Equations that did not speak understandable English. So I switched into horticulture. heh

There were other reasons, but I could not understand anything the guy said, so I did drop the class, despite Acing the Calculus class (140?) before that. So sad for the average American student.
Posted by: illiniwek

Just read the textbook.

I was blessed with just enough math aptitude to understand by reading the math and engineering textbooks, like one might read a history text.

Does not work for most people. But they can learn it if someone works with them and instructs them. This is why putting an instructor in without conversational English skills fucks everyone - it is fraud.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 01:41 PM (/lPRQ)

224
I fear that we, here in the U.S. have become Babylon. Technologically advanced, but morally in decay. It has certainly hapened to other cultures/civilizations.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Or that we are at the beginning of a great revival and witnessing corruption in its death throes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:41 PM (1IBl2)

225 Barbara Tuchman observed that civilization ended in 1914.

To the extent that societies had been advancing civilizations prior to that, it is difficult to make a counter argument.

I fear that we, here in the U.S. have become Babylon. Technologically advanced, but morally in decay. It has certainly hapened to other cultures/civilizations.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

I think Robert Heinlein opined that the last truly happy summer for Western Civilization was the summer of 1914.

Now for America alone, I'd say right after the fall of the USSR looked pretty good. Too bad we wasted the opportunity.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK8)

226 Office jobs done at home are no different than at the office. You’re just cutting out a commute.
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Office jobs done by Pakistanis are no different than Americans. You’re just cutting out a higher paying salary.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 16, 2025 01:42 PM (I/Icm)

227 Barbara Tuchman observed that civilization ended in 1914.

To the extent that societies had been advancing civilizations prior to that, it is difficult to make a counter argument.

I fear that we, here in the U.S. have become Babylon. Technologically advanced, but morally in decay. It has certainly hapened to other cultures/civilizations.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

Yeah, I won't quibble about the dates, but I find it hard to see how we're going to work our way out of this.

To misquote some other guy, I don't know if this is the beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning, but it sure looks to me like the end of something.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:42 PM (8Wxl3)

228 You vomit an anti-capitalist screed, get called on it, and then resort to juvenile insults that went out with moving up to high school.. It's much easier than defending your position. That would require an intellectual depth you do not have.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 16, 2025 01:40 PM (vwL3N)

Uh, no. You seem to have capitalism (a Marxist invention) and corporatism entirely confused. And I did defend the position, as to rebut your specious generalization of an actual free-market system as Marxist. Calling your retardation retarded was just a bonus. You haven't actually addressed anything either other than illegal immigration, albeit in a very perfunctory fashion. You are projecting your shallowness of knowledge and understanding of markets and history very very hard. And engaging in the very same thing you claim to decry. So try thinking once in a while. It won't hurt too much.

Posted by: You've lost the plot at November 16, 2025 01:43 PM (TbWk/)

229 Barbara Tuchman is not a Jehovah's Witness.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:40 PM (CA6zO)

Well, she's dead, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:44 PM (8Wxl3)

230 american university students are by and large a toxic combination of entitled and incompetent: they do not understand math at a high-school level and are too lazy to put in the work to learn it, but they nevertheless *demand* degrees in highly quantitative fields for "putting in the work" by...turning in papers riddled with errors 2 weeks late yet demanding full marks due to "anxiety accommodations".
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The critical factor in success is no longer intelligence or diligence but the will to power.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:44 PM (CA6zO)

231 218 Speaking of enchiladas, there's a tweet on Rantingly saying the Mexican palace has "fallen."

I don't see anything about it anywhere else.

Seems to me a revolution in Meh Hee Co would be kind of a big deal.
Posted by: BurtTC a
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An important mayor was assassinated by the Cartel precipitating a riot/rally in Mexico City (at the president's palace?) calling for Shineybum to be replaced. [related from late night memory]

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:45 PM (1IBl2)

232 Calling the endorsement of wages to be determined by an actual free market "Marxist" and "anti-capitalist" is quite psychotic.

Posted by: One more thing... at November 16, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

233 To misquote some other guy, I don't know if this is the beginning of the end, or the end of the beginning, but it sure looks to me like the end of something.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:42 PM (8Wxl3)

I think everyone is feeling that to some extent. None of our institutions work the way they were supposed to anymore, and yet we can't see how to repair or replace them all.
A big part of the problems Trump and the GOP are facing on the economy are bad decisions that were set in motion 30 or 40 years ago and are finally coming to a head.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:46 PM (uWKK8)

234 For those with sites in MX, are they seeing where this may be a bit of a problem? I am not seeing a lot of coverage on it outside of x.

Posted by: Piper at November 16, 2025 01:46 PM (g0rHp)

235 Or that we are at the beginning of a great revival and witnessing corruption in its death throes.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:41 PM (1IBl2)

That's right, we're in our death throes.

Cough cough, we're so cold! We want our mommies!!

Posted by: THE DEEEEEEP STATE at November 16, 2025 01:46 PM (8Wxl3)

236 I think Robert Heinlein opined that the last truly happy summer for Western Civilization was the summer of 1914.

Now for America alone, I'd say right after the fall of the USSR looked pretty good. Too bad we wasted the opportunity.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK

On a personal level, my last happy summer was 2019. The covid scam was ruinous on so many levels… it delivered the coup de grace to society in many ways…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (xT8gx)

237 I have this recurring fear, maybe it's a recurring bad dream, that the end times will come and all of the terrible things will happen, and then it will be over and I'll still be here with a few others and God will hand us all brooms and say "Ok you guys clean all this mess up."
Posted by: Tom Servo

Like the 'mission essential' workers during the shutdown - you are the guy who really knows how to do everything so you have keep working. Everyone else will be kicking back in Fort Heaven / etc.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (/lPRQ)

238 But India has designed SO many iconic car over the years.
Stelantis need to go back to YJ and XJ jeeps and stop ruining everything. Hell make a CJ5 or 7 again and I'll bet they fly off the showroom floor... if they even make it that far.
Posted by: Reforger at November 16, 2025 01:20 PM (phGCW)

Stellantis should work out a marketing deal with Mahindra, and sell the Roxxor in the USA and Canada as the CJ2B. Back to the roots!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (npFr7)

239 Barbara Tuchman is not a Jehovah's Witness.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Anectdote:

One Saturday morning my doorbell rang. Still recovering from the previous evening's dissipations, I staggered to the door in my bathrobe. There, I was handed a publication by a pair of Jehova's Witnesses. The title? 'AWAKE!'. I managed to say 'Well, this is appropriate'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (XeU6L)

240 On a personal level, my last happy summer was 2019. The covid scam was ruinous on so many levels… it delivered the coup de grace to society in many ways…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (xT8gx)

Watching the mass compliance with nonsensical diktats was extremely demoralizing, in addition to all the other garbage that went with it.

Posted by: MASK UP AND OBEY at November 16, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

241 236 I think Robert Heinlein opined that the last truly happy summer for Western Civilization was the summer of 1914.

Now for America alone, I'd say right after the fall of the USSR looked pretty good. Too bad we wasted the opportunity.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK

On a personal level, my last happy summer was 2019. The covid scam was ruinous on so many levels… it delivered the coup de grace to society in many ways…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (xT8gx)
Clintoons pissed away the ‘Cold War Dividend’

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 01:49 PM (i+bC1)

242 >>>I think Robert Heinlein opined that the last truly happy summer for Western Civilization was the summer of 1914.
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The summer of my seventh year was happy too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:49 PM (1IBl2)

243 @218, 231 Mexicans , largely younger ones , are rioting against the corruption of the Mexican government and how it's wrapped up with the cartels. The breached the fences around the presidential palace yesterday. Lots of tear gas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 01:50 PM (bfwj/)

244 I think everyone is feeling that to some extent. None of our institutions work the way they were supposed to anymore, and yet we can't see how to repair or replace them all.
A big part of the problems Trump and the GOP are facing on the economy are bad decisions that were set in motion 30 or 40 years ago and are finally coming to a head.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:46 PM (uWKK

To the extent there is a Great Divide on the so-called right, I think it's between those who believe the institutions can be repaired, and those who believe they should be burned to the ground, and started over.

There are certainly merits to both arguments. And dangers.

I think Team Trump has adopted the former, and a lot of his voters wanted the latter.

I sure don't know how it's going to turn out, but I'm definitely more in the latter category myself.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:50 PM (8Wxl3)

245 Can't we all just get along ...??

Posted by: runner at November 16, 2025 01:50 PM (g47mK)

246 Seems to me a revolution in Meh Hee Co would be kind of a big deal.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:39 PM (nuAS/)

Nah, it's like two hobos fighting over a found pair of soiled underpants. Don't stop and get involved, just keep on keeping on.

Posted by: Zombie Benito Juarez at November 16, 2025 01:50 PM (R/m4+)

247 H1B is as corrupt as can be. When did it come about exactly , the year 2000 ???

Posted by: runner at November 16, 2025 01:51 PM (g47mK)

248 Looked up the Mexican situation, and as best I can tell a rioting mob overran parts of the grounds of the National Palace, but then was dispersed by some arrests.

They can riot all they want, but it's meaningless. Mexico is a failed state, and Scheinbaum is just an accountant to help the Cartels clear their checks and transfer their money. She has about as much actual power as your local HOA general secretary, and replacing her with a new HOA secretary would be meaningless.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:51 PM (uWKK8)

249 Looking at the winners and losers column it appears that those in the winners column always worked longer and harder.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:04 PM

I worked longer and harder and became an expert in my position. And after giving 13+ years to the company and going above and beyond every day, I was summarily laid off -- along with 399 other quality American engineers -- and replaced by remote-working retards in India.

I used to believe in hard work. I used to believe that if I worked hard, had high efficiency and production, went above and beyond to become not just an expert myself, but to work to create SOPs and mentor others to be a rising tide to raise all ships around me, that would make me someone the company saw as invaluable to the company's future.

That asshole Carlos Tavares and Stellantis taught me that was all bullshit and doesn't matter a bit.

Hard work means jack shit in today's culture. It's all about the corporate bottom line. Stellantis will hire 4-5 retards in India over someone like me. That is the fucking reality in 2025 America.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp)

250 Stellantis should work out a marketing deal with Mahindra, and sell the Roxxor in the USA and Canada as the CJ2B. Back to the roots!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (npFr7)
I’d buy a diesel Roxxor.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 01:51 PM (i+bC1)

251
The summer of my seventh year was happy too.

Posted by: Braenyard
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I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Posted by: Bob Seger at November 16, 2025 01:52 PM (XeU6L)

252 I think Robert Heinlein opined that the last truly happy summer for Western Civilization was the summer of 1914.
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The summer of my seventh year was happy too.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:49 PM (1IBl2)

Too bad Vic isn't here to tell us the difference between pre and post 1914.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:53 PM (8Wxl3)

253 I can see how the Air India story and the H1B situation are kinda related.

Posted by: runner at November 16, 2025 01:53 PM (g47mK)

254 Lots of stories recently about Harvard grade inflation… apparently upon admittance you’re guaranteed an A average at Harvard. If I were a hiring manager I would not hire a Harvard grad
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Maybe you'd pass on him if you are a Yale man, but if you are Harvard man you take him based upon that fact alone.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 01:53 PM (/lPRQ)

255 I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Posted by: Bob Seger at November 16, 2025 01:52 PM (XeU6L)
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This is about math, isn't it?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 01:53 PM (3HyZi)

256 Kinda gloomy here today.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2025 01:54 PM (viF8m)

257 >>>Stellantis should work out a marketing deal with Mahindra, and sell the Roxxor in the USA and Canada as the CJ2B. Back to the roots!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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It looks more like a jeep the CJs were gorgeous.
I want Toyota to come to its senses, take the battery out of that little truck and put it on the market.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:54 PM (1IBl2)

258 Seems to me a revolution in Meh Hee Co would be kind of a big deal.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:39 PM (nuAS/)

Nah, it's like two hobos fighting over a found pair of soiled underpants. Don't stop and get involved, just keep on keeping on.
Posted by: Zombie Benito Juarez at November 16, 2025 01:50 PM (R/m4+)

So basically it's like the french riots.

Only I suppose they'd be fighting over a still lit cigarette butt. Or a soiled beret.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:55 PM (8Wxl3)

259 That wall is only for Special Friends.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:55 PM (1IBl2)

260 I was close, the h1-B visa classification came about in 1990. HOWEVER, it was modified by the "The American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act (AC21) was an act passed by the United States Congress in October 2000". Who was in office at that time ...?

Posted by: runner at November 16, 2025 01:55 PM (g47mK)

261 Stellantis should work out a marketing deal with Mahindra, and sell the Roxxor in the USA and Canada as the CJ2B. Back to the roots!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Causes me to wonder how many 'Badge-engineered' cars there have been. Certainly Subaru/Saab was one of the oddest.

Posted by: Bob Seger at November 16, 2025 01:56 PM (XeU6L)

262 Oops /Seger

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:56 PM (XeU6L)

263 That's not pessimism, it's where we are. Add sports to your mix of broken, sick institutions that were formally respected. We are in an extended Judgement Day, God has removed His hand of restraint and all are off the leash, doing everything their corrupt hearts and minds have always wanted to do. Biblical evidence points to 2033 being the end of all things visible.

Posted by: Crying Out In The Wilderness. at November 16, 2025 01:10 PM

Yep, since Obama was elected in the US (probably earlier in Europe and Canada), we have simply been managing the decline of Western civilization.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:56 PM (P5BPp)

264 A little non-DEF diesel truck would sell like hotcakes.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 01:57 PM (i+bC1)

265 Sounds like a lie to me. Or he's intentionally sabotaging the whole thing to justify bringing in foreigners."

Winner!

Yeah, he's a nut job. With connections, but still a nut. Drives chinese cars around, doesn't realize they're collecting data...

What a maroon.

Posted by: man at November 16, 2025 01:57 PM (XuXeR)

266 Barbara Tuchman is not a Jehovah's Witness.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 01:40 PM (CA6zO)

Well, she's dead, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC

She's a Democrat?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (L/fGl)

267 >>Biblical evidence points to 2033 being the end of all things visible.

That would put a dent on my retirement plans.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (viF8m)

268 Barron Trump 🇺🇸@BarronTNews_ . 18h

Mexico City just blew up. Thousands are storming the National Palace
after the cartel murder of Mayor Carlos Manzo and the crowd is DONE with corruption. They’re clashing with police and openly demanding Sheinbaum resign.
When people hit the streets like this it means the government has completely lost control. Is this the beginning of something bigger

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (1IBl2)

269 This current crop of students just aren't ambitious or smart.

Employers are finding out that these recent graduates are lacking in basic skills.

The education system has failed us.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2025 01:19 PM (NpAcC)

But all the fake graduates from China are totes well educated.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (u9SGQ)

270 Well, she's dead, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC

She's a Democrat?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (L/fGl)

She is now!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (8Wxl3)

271 I’d buy a diesel Roxxor.
Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 01:51 PM (i+bC1)

I think they are all turbo-diesels. But they are about as close to the original military Jeep and CJ2 as it possible to get with today's tech. Mahindra built actual Jeeps under licence in India, and they basically just copied the design. Jeep actually won a lawsuit to force them to change the Roxxor's grille from vertical slats to horizontal slats.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (npFr7)

272 256 Kinda gloomy here today.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2025 01:54 PM (viF8m)

everyone has started thinking about the problems that we really don't know how to fix. For example, the american educations really needs to be burned to the ground and replaced from scratch, but nobody can really see how to do that, especially not in the near term.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:59 PM (uWKK8)

273
This is about math, isn't it?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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[speculates on the number of unknowns, and number of equations]

I don't think that we have enough information.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:59 PM (XeU6L)

274 I just want one federal institution to be burnt to the ground. Just one. FBI, CIA, HUD, FUDD, EBT Scam, Social Security Giveways, SNAP, etc, etc. Pick one, anyone and shut it down and tell everyone involved to go home there is nothing here for you anymore.

Just one. I want to feel and hear the lamentations of whatever parasites are cut off from their suckling. Oink! Oink!

Posted by: Old Fart Who Knows The Mystery at November 16, 2025 01:59 PM (R/m4+)

275

Jehovah's Witnesses predicted that Armageddon would occur in 1975, based on their interpretation of biblical chronology, which suggested that 6,000 years of human history would end that year. This expectation led to significant growth in their membership, but when the prophecy failed, many members left the organization, leading to a notable decline in their numbers
===

Still holding a grudge.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 02:00 PM (CTokg)

276 This is the one bipartisan issue. Ds and Rs have both spent the last 40 years destroying the American worker.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 02:00 PM (u9SGQ)

277 FIRST WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 02:01 PM (+qU29)

278 Does anyone else find that Aliassmith poster's posts incomprehensible or do I need some special 3D AoS glasses to make them make sense?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 16, 2025 02:01 PM (QGaXH)

279 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 16, 2025 01:47 PM (XeU6L)

Well, that made me laugh. Thanks!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2025 02:01 PM (Yl2Ob)

280 The cartels will restore order.

Posted by: Accomack at November 16, 2025 02:02 PM (9H7EW)

281 When people hit the streets like this it means the government has completely lost control. Is this the beginning of something bigger
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 01:58 PM (1IBl2)

In today's Mexico, if they push it hard enough it will just end in another Tiananmen. Maybe they'll call it Tianantochtitlanmen.

The Cartels have proven that they have the weaponry to outshoot the Mexican Army if it ever comes to that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 02:02 PM (uWKK8)

282 Jehovah's Witnesses predicted that Armageddon would occur in 1975, based on their interpretation of biblical chronology, which suggested that 6,000 years of human history would end that year. This expectation led to significant growth in their membership, but when the prophecy failed, many members left the organization, leading to a notable decline in their numbers
===

Still holding a grudge.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 02:00 PM (CTokg)

Well shit. That would have saved me nearly a lifetime of suffering. Bastards.

Posted by: Why couldn't they have been right? at November 16, 2025 02:02 PM (TbWk/)

283 How can a truck run without cow p!$$?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2025 02:02 PM (9S8QP)

284 When you have 30 million illegals not subject to any taxes or regulations there is no such thing as a free market for wages. Joe can’t possibly compete with Jose when Jose is not subject to any labor laws and is paid in cash.

Can we put away the 2003 Republican thinking for just once and accept reality.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 16, 2025 02:02 PM (u9SGQ)

285 Still holding a grudge.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 02:00 PM (CTokg)

I have visions of demonstrators picketing JW World HQ with signs reading "I was promised the end of the world, and I want it NOW!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 16, 2025 02:02 PM (npFr7)

286 A little non-DEF diesel truck would sell like hotcakes.
Posted by: Eromero

All new diesels are required to use DEF now. Even a standalone generator.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 02:03 PM (/lPRQ)

287 Mexico has been a narco state for years. However a general collapse of society would be a horror show for the US. We would have to put the military on the border in large numbers. A lot of supply chains would be disrupted and the chaos could go south causing a bigger mess in Latin America

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 02:05 PM (bfwj/)

288 Won’t Michael Jackson a Jehovah Witness?

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 02:06 PM (i+bC1)

289 All new diesels are required to use DEF now. Even a standalone generator.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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That's a regulation we can lose.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 02:07 PM (1IBl2)

290 ASS might be the first troll in history who trolls himself

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 16, 2025 02:07 PM (bfwj/)

291 I pass on strange nics.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 16, 2025 02:10 PM (1IBl2)

292 286 A little non-DEF diesel truck would sell like hotcakes.
Posted by: Eromero

All new diesels are required to use DEF now. Even a standalone generator.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 16, 2025 02:03 PM (/lPRQ)
Since global warming was and is a lie, we should be able to have trucks available to other countries.

Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 02:10 PM (i+bC1)

293 Have you seen the recent report from UC SD about the college freshman Math skills?
It is shortsighted to stop legal immigration & higher ed path, without fixing American Ed system.

https://tinyurl.com/4xt2z5ar

Posted by: DEI Math at November 16, 2025 02:27 PM (AHXe+)

294 .
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I agree.
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Although not as disappointing as pResident Bidet, tRump should do better.
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Posted by: Marooned at November 16, 2025 03:32 PM (kt8QE)

295 ...That asshole Carlos Tavares and Stellantis taught me that was all bullshit and doesn't matter a bit.

Hard work means jack shit in today's culture. It's all about the corporate bottom line. Stellantis will hire 4-5 retards in India over someone like me. That is the fucking reality in 2025 America.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 16, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp)

This all started when the fucking bean counters took over the corporate suites. Fucking beans don't make corporations successful, PEOPLE DO! They forgot teaching that in schools. And hence here we are. I feel really sorry for you Clyde. I was able to retire (early) just before the worst of this philosophy hit.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 16, 2025 04:01 PM (QOIiA)

296 everyone has started thinking about the problems that we really don't know how to fix. For example, the american educations really needs to be burned to the ground and replaced from scratch, but nobody can really see how to do that, especially not in the near term.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 01:59 PM (uWKK

Burned to the ground with the communist fucking faculty inside.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 16, 2025 04:02 PM (QOIiA)

297 Just in from a potluck thanksgiving dinner at the bar, everything from turkey, gravy and cranberry sauce to meatballs, cheese manicotti, and a bundle of sides. Live music provided by the Tim Taylor Blues Band.
There's a lot to be said for living in a somewhat dumpy Rhode Island city.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 16, 2025 06:06 PM (sl73Y)

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