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Saturday Evening Movie Post [moviegique]: The Best Years Of Our Lives

Since my last missive, I saw no fewer than thirteen movies in the theater. And I've been trying to get back into reviewing them all as I go, a habit that got broke during Covid and never really came back, probably due at least as much to my writing novels as anything else.

There was the delightful documentary Rebel With A Clause where a lady and her husband go around to various American cities and set up a "Grammar Table" where she answered people's nagging grammar questions, took complaints and collected regional novelties.

There was del Toro's Frankenstein that does to that story what he did for Pinocchio—i.e., twist it to serve his own hobby horses so much that it completely inverts the original story and renders it incoherent. (It does, at least, feature a Frankenhole!)

Then I jetted off to the Texas theater for a night of shenanigans with Joe Bob Briggs where we watched: The Tinger, Trick Or Treat, Kiss Meets The Phantom Of The Park, Halloween 3, Phantom of the Paradise and "Garfield's Halloween Adventure".

After a paucity of interesting movies in October, four were released in just the last few weeks: the psychological thriller If I Had Legs, the 30th anniversary of Zhang Yimou's Ju Dou, Persian guerilla filmmaker Jafar Panahi's gripping It Was Just An Accident, and Yorgos Lanthimos' latest adventure in hating humanity Bugonia.

Did I mention the Estonian horror musical Chainsaws Were Singing? Because I should totally mention the Estonian horror musical Chainsaws Were Singing.

I liked all of them to varying degrees, but none of them seem very Thanksgiving-y—except "Rebel Without A Clause," which is chock full of Americana and gratitude. But I haven't written the review for that yet, so I'm going with a classic from Thanksgiving 20201: The Best Years of Our Lives. Enjoy!

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When I was a boy, the greatest of the secular holidays--if you'll forgive the oxymoron--was Thanksgiving. It sat defiantly on a Thursday and, fortified by the mythology of America, simultaneously closed the stores and clogged the airports and the bus stations. Gourmandizing aside, it was--and still is--a holiday that defied commercialization because its elemental substance was gratitude. So it is perhaps unsurprising that, encroached on one side by the increasingly commercialized Christmas and on the other by a Halloween metastasized from ever -expanding childhoods, Thanksgiving has not been a font of pop culture. Or, as Loudon Wainwright III put it:

Suddenly, it's Christmas right after Halloween
Forget about Thanksgiving, it's just a buffet in-between

(Wainwright's thoughts on Thanksgiving can be found here.)

Up until a few years ago, when John Hughes' Planes, Trains and Automobiles emerged from the cinematic soup of the '80s as a modern Thanksgiving classic (and setting aside the second best Peanuts special), the film I most associated with Thanksgiving was The Best Years of Our Lives. So ingrained was this in my head, I was rather surprised on a recent viewing to discover Thanksgiving makes no appearance in the film whatsoever--though it was released one week before Thanksgiving in 1946.

No Thanksgiving, but a whole lot of giving thanks.

1.jpg Hoagy Carmichael in the back, and from left-to-right: Harold Russell, Teresa Wright, Dana Andrews, Myrna Loy, Frederic March

Directed by William Wyler from a screenplay by Robert Sherwood (RebeccaThe Bishop's Wife) from a novella/poem by MacKinlay Kantor (who also wrote the book Follow Me, Boys! was based on), it would be the top grossing film of the decade and win seven regular Academy Awards, including Best Director, Best Screenplay and both Best Actor Oscars, and two special Oscars.

Our story begins with three servicemen returning from the war: An Army sergeant (Frederic March), a Navy Petty Officer (Harold Russell) and an Air Force bombardier (Dana Andrews) who share an uncomfortable 16-hour plane flight to get to the fictional town of Boone City where each discovers that while the town  hasn't changed, they and their relationship to it has.

There's nothing more American than the fact that their status in the military service has nothing to do with their non-military lives (cf. "I've Got My Captain Working For Me Now"). Sergeant Al (March) was a wealthy banker, Petty Officer Homer (Russell) was a solidly middle class high-school sports star, and the highest status among them, Bombardier Fred (Andrews) was a soda-jerk from the wrong side of the tracks.

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(insert inappropriate joke about "getting over Macho Grande" here)

Al returns to loving wife Milly (top-billed Myrna Loy) and two children who have grown to adulthood in his absence. Milly is so patient and so adept at handling Al that daughter Peggy (Teresa Wright) thinks that they've never had a single marital problem. Although Al finds himself welcome back at his old job (in charge of G.I. loans), he wants to use his gut sense about men--his faith in their abilities as he saw them during the war--as a basis for making loans. (This is literally illegal today.) And he finds himself dealing with the stress by drinking.

Homer's difficulties stem from the loss of his hands. Russell won two Oscars here, both for best supporting actor and an honorary one for supporting disabled veterans because the Academy assumed he couldn't win the regular Oscar, not being a professional actor. It's a powerhouse of a performance because Homer, who has already wrestled with his disability, has to repeat the grieving process with practically everyone he comes into contact with.

In an excess of decency, he wants to free his best girl Wilma (Cathy O'Donnell) from feeling obliged to stay with him while she struggles to make him realize her feelings haven't changed.

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Getting a piano lesson from Hoagy while Andrews (way in the back) is doing the right thing. (Look at that blocking!)

The main arc of the movie belongs to Fred. A genuine war hero who ends up working for the kid who probably was too young for the and whose home-town pharmacy was bought out by a big conglomerate, he's also suffering from what we now call PTSD, and his party-time pin-up gal wife Marie (Virginia Mayo), whom he married two weeks before shipping out, doesn't really have anything in common with him any more and also really hates that he can't hold down a job. The movie's great irony being that the least grateful and understanding person in the film, Marie, is the one who bitterly utters the words "the best years of my life".

Complicating matters further is that an encounter with Peggy convinces Fred that she, rather than the bubble-headed bimbo, is what he really wants in a wife. This doesn't go down very well with Al.

I hope it's not a spoiler to say that things more-or-less all work out for the best, and some critics, especially in later years, would regard the movie as too "neat", but the whole point of the film is giving thanks. When Homer is describing the process of how he has to put on the harness that holds his hook-hands, he says, "I'm lucky. I have my elbows. Some of the boys don't." (Sort of a variant on "I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet.")

It isn't really "neat", though: All three of our heroes have to face the fact that life is going to be full of new challenges. Al's challenge is moral and institutional, Harold's is physical, and Fred basically has to start over. But a big part of giving thanks, as it turns out, is not giving up--and the guy who stands in the future suggesting a movie like this should end in despair is like the conspiracy theory guy (Ray Teal) who calls the servicemen "suckers": he deserves a sock in the jaw.

With a relentlessly emotional score by Hugo Friedhoffer (and directed by Emil Newman), and occasionally blocked so arrestingly that a home viewing has the vital advantage of letting you pause and rewind to appreciate it, this is a unique film that has me choked up for almost the entirety of its 2:50 runtime, every time I watch it--and feeling that I need to be more thankful.

4.jpg"There oughtta be a law against any man who doesn't want to marry Myrna Loy." -- Jimmy Stewart

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:30 PM




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1 From the prior thread:

"The Long, Long Trailer" (1953) It's really good! Comedy with Lucy and Desi.
m.ok.ru/video/321619561123

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 07:34 PM (4kcNT)

2 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2025 07:35 PM (+qU29)

3 The Best Years of Our Lives is really a wonderful movie. Stands the test of time. Elegant. Emotional. Eternal.

Frankenstein was junk.

Warfare was excellent. I think the AoS crowd would like it quite a bit.

The Plague was also very good. Joel Edgerton continues to impress me as time goes on. The Stranger was one of the best movies of the last ten years. The Plague might not be in that category but solid.

Posted by: Lex at November 15, 2025 07:36 PM (y4H1r)

4 this was talked about THE BEST OF TIMES and the movie Till the End of Time was mentioned and how it was better I am trying to find some type of copy of the movie

Currently watching Romancing the Stone, what a dumb but enjoyable movie. YOU COULD NOT make this type of movie because the FEMALE character has to be in charge and know more than the man.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 15, 2025 07:36 PM (FCrpy)

5 “Thirteen Days” (2000) Cuban missile crisis drama. I don’t know how much of it is true, and I suspect the Kennedy stuff leans hagiographic, but it works as a tense thriller.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 07:36 PM (4kcNT)

6 I'm getting teary-eyed just thinking of that scene where Wilma gently lets Homer know that she's not going anywhere.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 07:38 PM (kpS4V)

7 "The Long, Long Trailer" (1953) It's really good! Comedy with Lucy and Desi.
m.ok.ru/video/321619561123
Posted by: gp
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If not mentioned, 1953 Mercury Monterey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 15, 2025 07:40 PM (XeU6L)

8 "The Long, Long Trailer" (1953) It's really good! Comedy with Lucy and Desi.
m.ok.ru/video/321619561123
Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 07:34 PM (4kcNT)


I read northwest memoirs, and one of them had a passing comment that the book and the movie were based around some fool trying to take a travel trailer up a bad road out of the Snake river canyon, one that the woman who wrote the memoir said they had to stop half way up and back all the way down

Posted by: Kindltot at November 15, 2025 07:42 PM (rbvCR)

9 This movie came up last week for the scene in which a character got a punch in the nose for telling Homer he lost his arms "fighting the wrong people."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 15, 2025 07:44 PM (A0sqA)

10 The Best Years of Our Lives is a truly great movie. It also came out at a perfect time so many people related to it.
Thx movigique

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 15, 2025 07:44 PM (bfwj/)

11
I've only seen Hoagy Carmichael in that old TV Western series with "Slim" & "Jess Harper."

I forgot the name.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 15, 2025 07:46 PM (o0Fsv)

12 "some fool trying to take a travel trailer up a bad road out of the Snake river canyon"

It's about a lot of things: travel in America's golden auto vacation age, marriage, trailer-park people. Believable, funny and sometimes touching.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 07:46 PM (4kcNT)

13 9 This movie came up last week for the scene in which a character got a punch in the nose for telling Homer he lost his arms "fighting the wrong people."
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Dana Andrews. He's at his lowest point and a guy at the drugstore where he lost his menial job as a soda clerk starts going on this "wrong side" thing, and Andrews punches him.

It's a great scene, especially in retrospect. We can all have different opinions on things, but there are lines. Like when Buzz Aldrin popped that guy who kept calling him a coward because he didn't buy into a moon-landing conspiracy.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 07:46 PM (asXVI)

14 "Frankenstein" was certainly beautiful to look at, and the costuming was spectacular. Victor's red leather gloves were a great way to indicate his bloody-handedness.

The movie is broken into two chapters, Victor's story and the monster's. The creature's escape from the castle and finding safe haven within a peasant family's house, hiding from sight, is my favorite part. The blind grandfather, left alone during hunting season, civilizes the monster through conversation and reading.

Still, it's got that annoying Del Toro WE'RE THE REAL MONSTERS b.s., just like "The Shape of Water".

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 07:47 PM (kpS4V)

15 He was the way fleming pictured bond

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 07:47 PM (bXbFr)

16 Hoagy camichael

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 07:48 PM (bXbFr)

17 Yes the strain is a rare one ehere he doesnt do this

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 07:49 PM (bXbFr)

18 Still, it's got that annoying Del Toro WE'RE THE REAL MONSTERS b.s., just like "The Shape of Water".
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"Pinocchio" is about a boy (nee marionette) who doesn't obey his father and so gets into increasing misadventures.

Del Toro's "Pinocchio" is about how fascism is bad. But all the same elements from the original story is there, and the whole thing ends up making no sense at all.

I think it's possible to say "There are authorities you should pay attention to and some you should not, and it's probably always conditional" but he gets nowhere near this.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 07:49 PM (asXVI)

19 Teresa Wright was a pretty little girl.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 15, 2025 07:49 PM (fd80v)

20 I caught "Bugonia". It's pure Lanthamos batshittery, and Plemons and Stone were terrific.

I liked the movie and I doubt I will ever want to see it again.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 07:50 PM (kpS4V)

21 Hoagy Carmichael wrote Georgia on my Mind. Not Ray Charles, not Willie Nelson but Hoagy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 15, 2025 07:50 PM (bfwj/)

22 "WE'RE THE REAL MONSTERS"

Michael Shannon is the Real Monster. Love his crazy menacing shtick. "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead," "Revolutionary Road." What a wacko!

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 07:51 PM (4kcNT)

23 Ok then

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 07:51 PM (bXbFr)

24 So, Frankenstein is, on multiple readings, about a narcissistic father who gives birth to a narcissistic son, and neither being able to see past their own immediate needs to be decent human beings.

Del Toro's Frankenstein, OTOH, is some kind of blasphemous nonsense about how man is born in sin, but if he created a creature of his own, that creature would be sinless. Godlike, some might say.

Except since it's an action movie he also has to kill wantonly.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 07:52 PM (asXVI)

25 Heck of a movie, a little hard to watch for me, dunno why as I was a good generation + removed from WW 2

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 15, 2025 07:53 PM (xcxpd)

26 I liked the movie and I doubt I will ever want to see it again.
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Yes, I really should say "I can't think of anyone I'd recommend it to except The Boy and Eris." 'cause I know how you roll.

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Michael Shannon is the Real Monster. Love his crazy menacing shtick. "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead," "Revolutionary Road." What a wacko!
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He's in Nuremberg, where I believe he plays a psychiatrist who ends up being seduced (in a sense) by Herman Goering.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 07:53 PM (asXVI)

27 Yes zod was just slightly crazier than his standard sett___

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 07:53 PM (bXbFr)

28
From the prior thread:

"The Long, Long Trailer" (1953) It's really good! Comedy with Lucy and Desi.
m.ok.ru/video/321619561123
Posted by: gp

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I've practically got that movie memorized.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 15, 2025 07:54 PM (n7CIX)

29 Michael Shannon is the Real Monster. Love his crazy menacing shtick.
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He has a menacing forehead.

"Take Shelter", where he plays a man who has frightening visions of imminent danger, was good and creepy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V)

30 I watched Kenneth Branagh as Reinhard Heydrich in Conspiracy this week. I liked it. The banality of elegant evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 07:57 PM (L/fGl)

31
I caught "Bugonia". It's pure Lanthamos batshittery, and Plemons and Stone were terrific.

I liked the movie and I doubt I will ever want to see it again.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

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VERY close to my opinion. The acting was great, especially Plemens. But I don't, shall we say, respect movies that turn out to be a big prank on the viewer.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 15, 2025 07:57 PM (n7CIX)

32 Hey movie thread! Hey moviegique!

Hoagy Carmichael was good people. I recently read that late in his life, he hosted a kids' TV show about music and classic songs.

And I'm trying to catch up on films I missed years ago. Just got Ransom, with Mel Gibson. Still need to get:

- Honeysuckle Rose
- Prizzi's Honor
- Midnight Run
- Tough Guys
- Gung Ho
- Stuart Saves His Family
- The Great Santini
- The Boy In The Plastic Bubble

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 07:58 PM (cQHrm)

33 All Hail Eris: I learned the 'spoiler' in Bugonia today, reading at Sasha Stone's site. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 07:58 PM (cQHrm)

34 "I watched Kenneth Branagh as Reinhard Heydrich in Conspiracy this week."

Wow he was SO good in that! How does an actor DO that?! Where do they FIND it!? Recommended.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 07:59 PM (4kcNT)

35 I've only seen Hoagy Carmichael in that old TV Western series with "Slim" & "Jess Harper."

I forgot the name.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Laramie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 08:00 PM (L/fGl)

36 He's in Nuremberg, where I believe he plays a psychiatrist who ends up being seduced (in a sense) by Herman Goering.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 07:53 PM (asXVI)

Heh. Was Goering known for his charisma? Jolly fat morphine addict.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:00 PM (zZu0s)

37 I went into "Bugonia" anticipating the twist, Just because that's how Lanthamos rolls -- over the edge.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:00 PM (kpS4V)

38 "Ransom, with Mel Gibson." Recommended. It's a remake of an earlier "Ransom" (Glenn Ford?) that's pretty good too.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:01 PM (4kcNT)

39 TJM is doing an Otto Preminger series and I've been trying to watch along. However, it is damn hard finding his films on any streaming service.

And I can't find any complete collections on DVD or Bluray. Considering how many big and great films that bald Austrian made, I'm surprised.

I blame Disney.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 15, 2025 08:01 PM (xcxpd)

40
Retreat playing in the near distance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 15, 2025 08:01 PM (n7CIX)

41 Saw Best Years of our lives not too long ago

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2025 08:01 PM (+qU29)

42 We just watched Frankenstein last night. It was a beautiful movie, shot perfectly, elegent costumes and colors, but something was missing. I don't like the Frankenstein story because it is so sad, there is no goodness in anyone and the creature has no soul. That makes everything so bleak and sad. The creature will never have joy.

Posted by: Megthered at November 15, 2025 08:01 PM (pqOPz)

43 Heh. Was Goering known for his charisma? Jolly fat morphine addict.
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The two are not mutually exclusive!

I've read that his guards liked him. He was chatty and amusing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:01 PM (kpS4V)

44 AHE and gp, thanks.

I kind of wanted to see Lanthimos' film Poor Things, but it looks like that's one of these films that was designed solely to 'shock the squares.' Also there doesn't appear to be a single redeemable character in it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:02 PM (cQHrm)

45 He knows you guys didn't like my old Movie Laffs format, but Mister Horse says "Hi!" anyway.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:02 PM (4kcNT)

46 Okay, back to my movie, "Unstoppable", about a runaway train. It stars Chris Pine and the mighty Denzel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:03 PM (kpS4V)

47 Shannon appears in "Take Shelter" and "Mud" director's movie "Midnight Special," which isn't as good but worth a watch.

https://moviegique.com/2016/06/midnight-special/

Interestingly enough, this touches on similar themes as "Bugonia", as in is the kid a space alien or not?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:04 PM (asXVI)

48 Everyone, if you want to read a movie site that focuses on good movies, and is written by a Trump supporter, I fully recommend Sasha Stone's site, AwardsDaily.com.

She's an ex-lefty who saw the light about how horrific her side is/was, after the Bernie/Hillary/Trump debacle of 2016. Also she writes a lot about Hollywood and what a leftist bubble it is. She takes a ton of abuse from commenters, but keeps her head held high.

Yes, I know Sasha personally. Like her a lot. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:04 PM (cQHrm)

49 "Unstoppable" Sequel in the works: "Still Not Stopped! WTF?!"

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:04 PM (4kcNT)

50 My favorite part is when Fred is inside the plane at the junkyard. I get the shakes when the music builds up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2025 08:05 PM (pkeXY)

51 50 Yup.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:06 PM (4kcNT)

52 Because I should totally mention the Estonian horror musical Chainsaws Were Singing.

I saw Estonian Horror Musical open for Chainsaw For Birthday at Husqvarna's annual sales conference last year.

https://youtu.be/JSUyX6g5DXA

Posted by: mikeski at November 15, 2025 08:06 PM (nhCoE)

53 gp, wait 'til ya see Mel's sequel to Passion Of The Christ.

"Passion 2: This Time it's Personal!" ;-)

(Imagining Jesus with a machine gun, crewcut and smirk.)
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:06 PM (cQHrm)

54 Calling it a night, not feeling greatest
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2025 08:07 PM (+qU29)

55 Feel better Skip!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:07 PM (cQHrm)

56 43
'Heh. Was Goering known for his charisma? Jolly fat morphine addict.

The two are not mutually exclusive!

I've read that his guards liked him. He was chatty and amusing.'

William Shirer described him like a genial gangster boss.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 15, 2025 08:07 PM (fd80v)

57 >>>the greatest of the secular holidays--if you'll forgive the oxymoron--was Thanksgiving.
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Anecdotally, Thomas Jefferson didn't like Thanksgiving because
...too much religion.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:07 PM (4v7VO)

58 I went into "Bugonia" anticipating the twist,
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I basically anticipated ALL of the twists, which is fine. I mean, if you know the director, quite a few things aren't in question at all.

For "Runaway Train" movies, there's always "Runaway Train" with Jon Voight, Rebecca DeMornay and Eric Roberts (before Julia). 's okay.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:08 PM (asXVI)

59 53 Ha!

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:09 PM (4kcNT)

60 Braenyard, yup.

There are some historical figures that I wish we could have back... but who I also know would be a big PITA if they were back.

A good example is John Lennon. I think he'd be a lot more based today. But I also think he'd hate Trump, and would have recorded "The Orange Album" by now. 30 songs against the administration.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:09 PM (cQHrm)

61 I have seen his war opus ,'in harms way,' a bunch of times (preminger) with wayne douglas and meredith

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:10 PM (bXbFr)

62 I be proud to announce that y s the city of Brattleboro has be donated $20'000 to the Brack Obana Cildrin of Coler fund twoday. What's has you been done two help Chidren of cooler ??

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at November 15, 2025 08:10 PM (357Ky)

63 Hoagy Carmichale also wrote "Star Dust", he performed it as well as Nate King Cole, Willie Nelson and many others. (1927)

I sing it, to my late wife in her memory every night before going to sleep.

Good songs last forever!!

Posted by: Roscoe Clause at November 15, 2025 08:10 PM (8wN/T)

64 On orange vinyl that smells like cheetohs when you play it

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:11 PM (kpS4V)

65 I remember in 1992 when I guessed the twist in The Crying Game, in about five minutes. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:11 PM (cQHrm)

66 "in harms way" Added to my list, thanks!

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:11 PM (4kcNT)

67 All Hail Eris, LOL.
Plus of course, lots of Yoko tracks for your listening (dis)pleasure!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:12 PM (cQHrm)

68 Haven't watched Best Years in I don't know when. Terrific movie, long overdue for a revisit. I find I don't revisit the long flicks as often as they deserve; once they break the 2-hr barrier, I just don't go back as often, even the terrific ones like Best Years.

I have to agree with Stewart's comment re Myrna Loy. Think I'd toss Teresa Wright into that one as well.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 08:12 PM (q3u5l)

69 I love the movie "In Harm's Way. Great movie that has no DEI or Woke crap in it.

Portrays the US Navy as a good and proud...

Posted by: Jackson at November 15, 2025 08:13 PM (J9q9v)

70 I have seen his war opus ,'in harms way,' a bunch of times (preminger) with wayne douglas and meredith
Posted by: Miguel cervantes

Love that movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 08:13 PM (L/fGl)

71 Jesse plemons really does evil characters

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)

72 Roscoe:

And now the purple dust of twilight time, seeps across the meadows of my heart...

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:15 PM (cQHrm)

73 The Tinger, h/t, Gordon McClendon, the Old Scotchman.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:15 PM (4v7VO)

74 And Hoagy Carmichael had a nice part in To Have and Have Not.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 08:16 PM (q3u5l)

75 "Jesse plemons really does evil characters"

He has a unique style, fer sure.

Check out Shawn Hatosy in the "Animal Kingdom" TV series. Whoa, that's scary!

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:16 PM (4kcNT)

76 It does cut corners (like they used ti say about '24)

Any character can die.

Based on the novel by iked press secretary

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:16 PM (bXbFr)

77 I watched "The Best Years of Our Lives" many years ago. Couldn't watch is again, as weepy as I have become. Heck I teared up several times watching "Saving Private Ryan" last night.

In late 1969, early 1970 I spent several months in a Bachelors Officers Quarters at Ft. Gordon. I shared the quarters with soldiers recuperating from war wounds in the hospital there. It was the Army hospital that specialized in limb loss. I was the only guy in the place with all of his arms and legs.

Talking with the guys I never sensed any anger or bitterness. They just wanted to go home and get on with their life.

Posted by: Javems at November 15, 2025 08:18 PM (8I4hW)

78
TJM is doing an Otto Preminger series and I've been trying to watch along. However, it is damn hard finding his films on any streaming service.

Not exactly streaming but...

https://is.gd/P1lFWD

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2025 08:18 PM (pkeXY)

79 I dont think hollywood could do a film like this anymore

Midway wasnt terrible, not as good as the '76 version

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:19 PM (bXbFr)

80 "Jesse plemons really does evil characters"

Breaking Bad was a feast of memorable villains, and all the actors swung for the fences. I think Gus Fring is a better written and acted villain than ANY that even James Bond ever faced.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:19 PM (4kcNT)

81 Does cut corners

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr)

82 Thats why giancarlo was waated in the thunderbolts

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:21 PM (bXbFr)

83 Vis a vis "Nuremberg" and Goering, this Sam Hyde bit (around the 5 minute mark) is relevant:

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1605580403536448

"I'm Hitler's top guy?!"

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:22 PM (asXVI)

84 82 He does a good Adam Clayton Powell in that Harlem TV series too!

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:22 PM (4kcNT)

85 Yes lanthimos has become one trick pony

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:22 PM (bXbFr)

86 Thanks moviegique. Dutch, with Ed O'Neil was an amusing Thanksgiving movie.

Posted by: scampydog at November 15, 2025 08:23 PM (LVaYG)

87
WTF is "Shelby Oaks" and why does Youtube want me to know about it?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 15, 2025 08:24 PM (o0Fsv)

88 Maybe Hollywood could still make one like Best Years, or In Harm's Way, or...

But I can't remember the last time I had the impression that Hollywood wanted to make such movies any more.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 08:25 PM (q3u5l)

89 WTF is "Shelby Oaks" and why does Youtube want me to know about it?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 15, 2025 08:24 PM (o0Fsv)

It is the passion project of a ewetub critic who is as mild as dish water. Chris Stuckman. I have heard it is derivative, meandering and kinda gay.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:26 PM (zZu0s)

90 It's a great movie. It's sentimental without being sappy. Homer is terribly damaged, but still a man and not an object of pity.

Posted by: huerfano at November 15, 2025 08:26 PM (98kQX)

91 >>>this is a unique film that has me choked up for almost the entirety of its 2:50 runtime
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A tribute to America and the men who saved it and the women who saved them?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:26 PM (4v7VO)

92 But I can't remember the last time I had the impression that Hollywood wanted to make such movies any more.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 08:25 PM (q3u5l)

Hell, they could not even make a Operation Petticoat (a very mild parody take on the military.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:27 PM (zZu0s)

93 No they dont maybe a peter berg who did lone survivor and the kingdom

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:27 PM (bXbFr)

94 "But I can't remember the last time I had the impression that Hollywood wanted to make such movies any more."

"Dunkirk?" "Greyhound?" "Zero Dark Thirty." "Thirteen Hours."

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:27 PM (4kcNT)

95 qdpsteve, Great Santini is a good movie, and book is even better, IMO

Posted by: barbarausa at November 15, 2025 08:28 PM (enw9G)

96 "Dunkirk?" "Greyhound?" "Zero Dark Thirty." "Thirteen Hours."
Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:27 PM (4kcNT)

1917

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:28 PM (zZu0s)

97 Not quite the same as the grand epics like Longest Day, Midway or Tora, etc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:29 PM (zZu0s)

98 >>And Hoagy Carmichael had a nice part in To Have and Have Not.

JSG, a girl in high school that I called 'Slim' didn't know the reference, and didn't know, that while she crushed on a classmate, I crushed on her. And the classmate was a friend - making her off-limits.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 15, 2025 08:30 PM (NcvvS)

99 Greyhound was apple tv if memory serves

House of dynamite (bigelow) had some good elements that didnt cohere

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:30 PM (bXbFr)

100 I try to watch The Best Years of Our Lives every time it is on TCM. Fantastic movie.

Posted by: Archer at November 15, 2025 08:30 PM (YGRGv)

101 >>>Currently watching Romancing the Stone, what a dumb but enjoyable movie. YOU COULD NOT make this type of movie because the FEMALE character has to be in charge and know more than the man.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
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Her going down the mudslide winding up in his face.
Unforgettable.
_little Mule


Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:30 PM (4v7VO)

102 97 I've rewatched Tora Cubed many times, and it just keeps getting better each time.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:30 PM (4kcNT)

103 But I can't remember the last time I had the impression that Hollywood wanted to make such movies any more.
Posted by: Just Some Guy

They were orgasmically happy with One Battle After Another.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 08:31 PM (L/fGl)

104 >>>I've only seen Hoagy Carmichael in that old TV Western series with "Slim" & "Jess Harper."

I forgot the name.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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To Have and Have Not.
one of the world's best movies

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:31 PM (4v7VO)

105 Yeah and that crashed and burned

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:32 PM (bXbFr)

106 >>To Have and Have Not.
one of the world's best movies

+1

Posted by: Nazdar at November 15, 2025 08:33 PM (NcvvS)

107 They are making a fourth mummy movie

God knows what they will do to brendan frasers character

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:33 PM (bXbFr)

108 98 >>And Hoagy Carmichael had a nice part in To Have and Have Not.

JSG, a girl in high school that I called 'Slim' didn't know the reference, and didn't know, that while she crushed on a classmate, I crushed on her. And the classmate was a friend - making her off-limits.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 15, 2025 08:30 PM (NcvvS)
That last scene with Lauren Bacall's little wiggle........

Posted by: Eromero at November 15, 2025 08:34 PM (LHPAg)

109 "They were orgasmically happy with One Battle After Another."

I've got it reserved at the library. I'll watch anything for 'free.'

"Civil War" sucked because it lionized only the war photographers with a paper-thin story to support it. Thumbs down.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:34 PM (4kcNT)

110 Good night, good people & riff-raff :-) See you on the Book Thread!

Posted by: Nazdar at November 15, 2025 08:34 PM (NcvvS)

111 Most contemporary war movies are garbage, historically inaccurate and full of woke clap trap.

Posted by: Archer at November 15, 2025 08:35 PM (YGRGv)

112 Currently watching Romancing the Stone, what a dumb but enjoyable movie. YOU COULD NOT make this type of movie because the FEMALE character has to be in charge and know more than the man.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

Fireplug Danny DaVito was great in that. Also in Ruthless People.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 08:35 PM (L/fGl)

113 barbarausa, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:35 PM (cQHrm)

114 Thirteen movies!!! Wow!!!

"Suddenly, it's Christmas right after Halloween"

It is in Canada. Thanksgiving - October 13th.
Tons of 'Black Friday' ads though.

I watched a few minutes of 'Das Boot' and it actually looked pretty good. I may look for it and watch it in its' entirety.

But how can I give a crap about WW2 Germans? That just feels wrong.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 08:36 PM (Sco7b)

115 OK, still here, Eromero, that was SPECTACULAR!

And now, really, good night!

Posted by: Nazdar at November 15, 2025 08:36 PM (NcvvS)

116 >>>Breaking Bad was a feast of memorable villains, and all the actors swung for the fences. I think Gus Fring is a better written and acted villain than ANY that even James Bond ever faced.
Posted by: gp
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And the writers. And the Producers who didn't fire the good writers after the first two seasons. A very profane but human presentation.
That's why it stuck.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:37 PM (4v7VO)

117 86 Thanks moviegique. Dutch, with Ed O'Neil was an amusing Thanksgiving movie.
Posted by: scampydog at November 15, 2025 08:23 PM (LVaYG)
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I'll check it out!

The thing about TBYOOL is that it reinforces the American narrative. And the Left went after all things that reinforce the American narrative because they needed to replace it with their own narrative. And they've mostly succeeded.

I was gonna review "House of Dynamite" last time but...it gets depressing reviewing mainstream stuff that fails artistically.

https://moviegique.com/2025/10/a-house-of-dynamite/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)

118 'Das Boot' Recommended.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:37 PM (4kcNT)

119 Das Boot highly recommended

Posted by: Archer at November 15, 2025 08:38 PM (YGRGv)

120 Stateless, that's one of the controversial things that was written about Das Boot, as well as movies like Downfall. They ask you to have empathy for the Germans during WW2.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:38 PM (cQHrm)

121 One battle is just another lib wet dream.

It is just insane with the hwavily pregnant woman firing the assault rifle.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:38 PM (zZu0s)

122 Was interesting to find out that Das Boot was actually an entire miniseries, whittled down to a feature-length film.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:39 PM (cQHrm)

123 That last scene with Lauren Bacall's little wiggle........
Posted by: Eromero

A wiggle in her walk and a giggle in her talk
Oo, baby. That's a what I like!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 08:39 PM (L/fGl)

124 YOU COULD NOT make this type of movie because the FEMALE character has to be in charge and know more than the man.

Sandra Bullock did this type of movie though. "The Lost City". It was kino.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 15, 2025 08:39 PM (gKWVE)

125 Sorry to be late, I think - behind The longest day - that best years of our lives is the best WW2 movie ever, because it shows the reality of veterans returning to their old lives better than anything else ever had.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 15, 2025 08:39 PM (GxM4+)

126 "They ask you to have empathy for the Germans during WW2."

What you get out of a movie, or any work of art, is up to you. Artists' intentions are fun to argue, but the message you get is entirely up to you.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:40 PM (4kcNT)

127 19 Teresa Wright was a pretty little girl.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 15, 2025 07:49 PM (fd80v)

She was fantastic in Hitchcock's "Shadow of a Doubt".
Joseph Cotton was the sinister Uncle Charlie.

Teresa also played the old lady in "Somewhere in Time". "Come back to me!"

Posted by: Joemarine at November 15, 2025 08:41 PM (y171U)

128 At one point, primarily for the guys who fought them, it was not hard to humanize them. They were human.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 08:41 PM (zZu0s)

129 Look Who's Back

Fantastic dark humor..

Posted by: Archer at November 15, 2025 08:41 PM (YGRGv)

130 gp, agreed 100%.

That's what I say about movies such as 2001, The Blair Witch Project, and The Tree Of Life. They can seem formless and without any plot, unless the viewer him/herself brings meaning to the film, and expects it to be good/entertaining.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:42 PM (cQHrm)

131 Recommend "Das Boot" as well. One can have sympathy for the poor kriegsmariners without feeling like you're rooting for the Reich.

The book, by Lothar Von Something, was really good but very acerbic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:42 PM (kpS4V)

132 I guess they were going for a fail safe feel (but it was missing some things) like a motive

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:42 PM (bXbFr)

133 Hard-bitten director Billy Wilder said that the movie The Best Years of Our Lives was the only one that he would watch and would make him cry every time. It's a absolutely marvelous movie with so much genuine deep feeling. Beautifully done.

Posted by: Beverly at November 15, 2025 08:43 PM (Epeb0)

134
But how can I give a crap about WW2 Germans? That just feels wrong.

U boat sailors were just men fighting for their country like the men in every other country.

Posted by: Azjaeger at November 15, 2025 08:43 PM (3/XaG)

135 AHE, correct.

Also, IMHO Hitler is a baddie in Downfall anyway, just based on the facts of how people described his behavior at the end of the war.

He didn't GAF about the Germans and their survival, in fact was convinced the US, USSR and maybe some other nations would carve it up and eat it like a pie.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:44 PM (cQHrm)

136 16 Hoagy camichael
Posted by: Miguel cervantes
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youtube.com/watch?v=H2oD2ZKV7eM

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 08:44 PM (4v7VO)

137 I caught "Bugonia". It's pure Lanthamos batshittery, and Plemons and Stone were terrific.

I liked the movie and I doubt I will ever want to see it again.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 07:50 PM (kpS4V)


Yeah, about the same as you Eris.

I'd seen "Save the Green Planet" the Korean movie of which "Bugonia" is a remake.

And I knew what to expect. There were some changes. The main one is that the part of Plemons friend was played by a woman in the Korean movie as his fiancé. I think that worked much better.

The "alien" in the K version was played by a man but Stone did a better job.

I like Bugonia's make no excuses downbeat weirdness, but it doesn't demand repeat viewing.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 08:44 PM (iJfKG)

138 To me perhaps the best scene in Best years of our lives is when Homers father helps him prepare for bed, takes his prosthetics off , gives him his cigarette. And it’s a completely wordless scene, just showing a father’s wordless and selfless love and service towards his injured son.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 15, 2025 08:44 PM (GxM4+)

139 Teresa Wright played a good time gal in "From Here to Eternity", right? Still good person, but, you know, worked on Hotel Street...

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:44 PM (kpS4V)

140 Big Myrna Loy fan. She has a look about her that seemed to imply that she was always up to something. In the Thin Man series, it almost seems like she played of that.

Posted by: Orson at November 15, 2025 08:45 PM (dIske)

141 Tony Scott really did action movies right. RIP, Tony.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:46 PM (kpS4V)

142 130 I see so many people saying 'I won't watch X, because Z worked/acted on/in it, and I can't stand that guy IRL.'

Somehow I figured out how to consume art without worrying about the sins of the artists that made it. I take the work as it is and for what it says to me and how it makes me feel.

If I worried about the sins of the people who make stuff, I would not be able to consume anything. In every product and supply chain, there are sinners and people that hate you. It's inevitable.

So when you watch a movie, 'suspend your disbelief' for a while, and try to ENJOY it. IMHO. YMMV.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:46 PM (4kcNT)

143 Hard-bitten director Billy Wilder said that the movie The Best Years of Our Lives was the only one that he would watch and would make him cry every time. It's a absolutely marvelous movie with so much genuine deep feeling. Beautifully done.
Posted by: Beverly at November 15, 2025 08:43 PM (Epeb0)


Yes, if the room doesn't get "dusty" during this movie for you. You have no soul.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 08:47 PM (iJfKG)

144 All Hail Eris, I like Tony Scott's debut, The Hunger from 1982.

Entire film was shot like a music video.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:47 PM (cQHrm)

145 It really had heart withiut being sappy

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 15, 2025 08:47 PM (bXbFr)

146 U boat sailors were just men fighting for their country like the men in every other country.

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To their great fortune, the opportunities for a U-boat sailor to murder civilians or prisoners were few and far between.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 15, 2025 08:50 PM (JkO4W)

147
"Frankenstein" kinda killed my interest in del Toro.

Now I really don't want him to make Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness".

We'll probably get Cthulhu as a romantic hero.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 08:50 PM (iJfKG)

148 Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:46 PM (4kcNT)

I'm not virtue signaling when I decide to boycott someone or something. It's personal. Some lines get crossed.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 15, 2025 08:53 PM (EYmYM)

149 I'm still up for a Muppet version of "Mountains of Madness".

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 08:54 PM (kpS4V)

150 youtube.com/watch?v=H2oD2ZKV7eM
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"Hong Kong Blues"

George Harrison covered that for his 1981 album "Somewhere In England". That and "Baltimore Oriole" are the best songs on the album.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:54 PM (asXVI)

151 To their great fortune, the opportunities for a U-boat sailor to murder civilians or prisoners were few and far between.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

Merchant Marines excepted.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 08:55 PM (L/fGl)

152 148 I understand that as a motive for not paying to consume the art, absolutely.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:55 PM (4kcNT)

153 gp at 142 -

Yep. I'd have to cut away a lot of the books and movies I enjoyed if I insisted on writers, directors, and casts sharing all my views.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 08:56 PM (q3u5l)

154 I =probably= will go see other del Toro films.

A weird aspect is that his films aren't boring, but they're sort of offensive.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:57 PM (asXVI)

155 I just finished watching the horror comedy "How to Kill Monsters" which is a pretty good parody.

"The sole survivor of a blood-drenched massacre must team up with a rag-tag bunch of rookie cops and lawbreakers to defend a police station from an invasion of monsters from another dimension."

It has a great take on the aftermath of surviving a demon attack (if you come stumbling out of a gore drenched cabin holding a chainsaw, oddly enough the cops will arrest you) plus a plot twist that I did not see coming. I liked it.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 15, 2025 08:58 PM (R5+Wg)

156 148 I understand that as a motive for not paying to consume the art, absolutely.
Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 08:55 PM (4kcNT)

Financial punishment doesn't factor in my decision if my line is crossed. Again it's not if someone just disagrees with me. It's when they cross a line I have. These days unfortunately the line is crossed frequently.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 15, 2025 09:00 PM (EYmYM)

157 "A weird aspect is that his films aren't boring, but they're sort of offensive.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:57 PM (asXVI)
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That's it exactly. I left "Pan's Labyrinth" and "Water" feeling mildly pissed off.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:00 PM (kpS4V)

158 Speaking of Nazis, good news, everybody, straight from the UN's mouth!

Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls@UNSRVAW
No Palestinian applauded rape in Gaza. No independent investigation found that rape took place on the 7th of October.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 09:01 PM (L/fGl)

159 Pan’s Labyrinth gave me dreams I can never tell anyone about, because I would be out in an asylum if I did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 15, 2025 09:02 PM (GxM4+)

160 156 OK, I thought maybe when you mentioned 'boycott,' that's what you meant.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 09:02 PM (4kcNT)

161 Thanks everyone. I'm working on some stuff right now but I have a few beers and may see if I can find 'Das Boot' to stream.

As pointed out above, if we boycotted every movie or show with people we vehemently disagreed with, we'd all be watching asian stuff all the time.

My late uncle did serve in the Canadian Navy during WW2. I looked up battle statistics one time. The Navy was a very dangerous place to be. Which makes sense. Retreat wasn't an option.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:02 PM (Sco7b)

162 "Frankenstein" kinda killed my interest in del Toro.

Now I really don't want him to make Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness".

We'll probably get Cthulhu as a romantic hero.
Posted by: naturalfake


Would you settle for a rom-com with Nyarlathotep as a lovestruck girl?

That's the anime "Nyaruko: Crawling With Love."

.....nuked too much, or not enough?

Posted by: mikeski at November 15, 2025 09:03 PM (nhCoE)

163
I was gonna review "House of Dynamite" last time but...it gets depressing reviewing mainstream stuff that fails artistically.

https://moviegique.com/2025/10/a-house-of-dynamite/
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)


You mean the movie that literally has no point to it?

Another movie that I felt had no point was "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead".

It did the exact same thing a HoD. Show you different views of the same event all to no purpose, because we don't have any of the necessary background information about the people and the family.involved. We literally knew nothing about those people, except the brother is banging the other brother's wife.

God, I hated that movie.

BONUS: Lots of nekkid Marisa Tomei in her absolute prime. Great Gooly-Moogly was she a knockout beauty!!!!

The Downest Downside: Phillip Seymore Hoffman's pale, flabby bar ass is literally the first thing you see in this movie. Blarh!🤮

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 09:04 PM (iJfKG)

164
As pointed out above, if we boycotted every movie or show with people we vehemently disagreed with, we'd all be watching asian stuff all the time.

What if you disagree with the Asians?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2025 09:06 PM (pkeXY)

165 Financial punishment doesn't factor in my decision if my line is crossed. Again it's not if someone just disagrees with me. It's when they cross a line I have. These days unfortunately the line is crossed frequently.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 15, 2025 09:00 PM (EYmYM)

I understand. I love comedy shows but I really don't want politics, lessons about racism or gay shit put in there.

That's one reason I like older kids comedy shows. Some of them are surprisingly funny. And believe it or not, there are shows without any black characters. Or gays.

You get used to that real fast.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:06 PM (Sco7b)

166 What if you disagree with the Asians?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2025 09:06 PM (pkeXY)

Then African Hollywood it is....

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:07 PM (Sco7b)

167 I liked Pan's Labyrinth. Guess I'll eventually see De Toro's Frankenstein

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 15, 2025 09:09 PM (bfwj/)

168 Yep. I'd have to cut away a lot of the books and movies I enjoyed if I insisted on writers, directors, and casts sharing all my views.
Posted by: Just Some Guy

Damn Shakespeare was a monarchist!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 09:09 PM (L/fGl)

169 Bertram and Stateless:

If the Asian and African stuff is still offensive, then it's off to self-animated puppet shows. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:10 PM (cQHrm)

170 OK, way off topic, but hilarious:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/
MTNpqpvyc-E

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 09:10 PM (zZu0s)

171 30 I watched Kenneth Branagh as Reinhard Heydrich in Conspiracy this week. I liked it. The banality of elegant evil.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 07:57 PM (L/fGl)

One of my favorite movies.

Posted by: Tucker Carlson at November 15, 2025 09:11 PM (u9SGQ)

172 Anonosaurus,

Shakespeare was a monarchist?!? Dammit!! (Goes to shelves, pulls books, wipes movies off the hard drive, puts DVDs into the donation bin...)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 09:11 PM (q3u5l)

173
158 Speaking of Nazis, good news, everybody, straight from the UN's mouth!

Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls@UNSRVAW
No Palestinian applauded rape in Gaza. No independent investigation found that rape took place on the 7th of October.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 15, 2025 09:01 PM (L/fGl)

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Fuck these people. War.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 15, 2025 09:11 PM (azNOR)

174 Another movie that I felt had no point was "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead".
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Yeah, a real disappointment from Lumet. Maybe his last film?

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BONUS: Lots of nekkid Marisa Tomei in her absolute prime. Great Gooly-Moogly was she a knockout beauty!!!!
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Interesting. She was 43 in that. Woman has--not to offend anyone--GOOD GENES.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:12 PM (asXVI)

175 Tony Scott directed True Romance , including the Walken - Hopper classic scene

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 15, 2025 09:12 PM (bfwj/)

176 Fuck these people. War.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 15, 2025 09:11 PM (azNOR)

Yeah, pretty big fuckwad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 15, 2025 09:12 PM (zZu0s)

177 I've read about Heydrich.

"What's that Adolf? You want me to put these camp prisoners in a giant blender alive, then turn them into Jewish Smoothies? You got it! Would you like those topped with kraut or Bavarian cream?" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:13 PM (cQHrm)

178 "She was 43 in that." Well worth waiting for.

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 09:14 PM (4kcNT)

179 An interesting doubleheader would be Conspiracy about Heydrich at Wannsee and Anthropoid about Heydrich's assassination

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 15, 2025 09:15 PM (bfwj/)

180 Wanted to share this pic of Judy Garland with everyone. It was willowed in last night's ONT.

She was only 46, and this was taken just a few months before her death in 1969. I guess Hollywood has always been an evil place.

https://tinyurl.com/4nv2cfur

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:15 PM (cQHrm)

181 167 I liked Pan's Labyrinth. Guess I'll eventually see De Toro's Frankenstein
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Oh, I liked it alot, too, because I'm not really immersed in the whole Spanish Civil War thing. That and Hellboy 2 are probably peak del Toro.

But when he keeps banging the anti-fascist drum? Which is really just "everybody but the commies are bad"?

Meh. "Shape of Water" is such a slander against '50s America, it irritated me.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:16 PM (asXVI)

182 She was only 46, and this was taken just a few months before her death in 1969. I guess Hollywood has always been an evil place.
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There are even worse pictures. I don't even want to speculate on what happened to her prior to coming to Hollywood, much less what happened when Louis B Mayer put her on speed so she'd lose weight.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:17 PM (asXVI)

183 If you hadn't said the woman in the pic was Garland, I wouldn't have recognized her. Jeez...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 09:18 PM (q3u5l)

184 moviegique, I've been reading that the studios were always feeding Judy pills. Supposedly her lifelong diet was mostly those, booze and cigarettes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:18 PM (cQHrm)

185 179 Yup!

Posted by: gp at November 15, 2025 09:19 PM (4kcNT)

186 "Bugonia" is still in theaters. Glad that freaky cinema can have "legs".

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:19 PM (kpS4V)

187 All Hail Eris, between Covid, streaming and everything else, Hollywood has no idea how to market movies any more.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:21 PM (cQHrm)

188 My all time favorite movie. One thing you did not touch upon in your very good summary is the use of mirroring and foreground shots while the action is taking place in the background. It really is remarkably acted, directed, and shot.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 15, 2025 09:22 PM (R86kT)

189 She was only 46, and this was taken just a few months before her death in 1969. I guess Hollywood has always been an evil place.

https://tinyurl.com/4nv2cfur
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:15 PM (cQHrm)

I could live without that.

And I've watched all of 'Saw' and the first two 'Terrifier' movies. And a bunch of other really terrible stuff during a very trying time.

But damn...

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:25 PM (Sco7b)

190 184 moviegique, I've been reading that the studios were always feeding Judy pills. Supposedly her lifelong diet was mostly those, booze and cigarettes.
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Yeah. And not just Judy, of course.

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187 All Hail Eris, between Covid, streaming and everything else, Hollywood has no idea how to market movies any more.
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This is true. But it makes a lot of sense, really.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:25 PM (asXVI)

191 188 My all time favorite movie. One thing you did not touch upon in your very good summary is the use of mirroring and foreground shots while the action is taking place in the background. It really is remarkably acted, directed, and shot.
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I could do a post JUST on the blocking. I limited myself to one picture.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:25 PM (asXVI)

192 Mary, the advice I give to "Children to Color" is not to take a bath with Chlorox. Because it makes colors run !!!!!

62 I be proud to announce that y s the city of Brattleboro has be donated $20'000 to the Brack Obana Cildrin of Coler fund twoday. What's has you been done two help Chidren of cooler ??

Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at November 15, 2025 08:10 PM (357Ky)

Posted by: Jackson at November 15, 2025 09:26 PM (J9q9v)

193 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 15, 2025 08:44 PM (GxM4+)

Also, when Pops reads the citation for Freddie's medals. He has a drinking problem, but he loves his boy.

The movie definitely has a class aspect from the first scene where Fred can't get a ticket home, but the rich businessman pays for overweight luggage, all the way through to insurance guy that wants to hire Homer for his disability to get pity sales.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 15, 2025 09:26 PM (R86kT)

194 Just some guy, Stateless and moviegique, yup x 3. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:26 PM (cQHrm)

195 But damn...
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Early on, I gave my middle daughter a Judy Garland CD, and she enjoyed it, so she went on to YouTube to hear more.

Then she found a documentary about her.

Which cemented a rule: Never look up your favorite actors.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:26 PM (asXVI)

196 Following up on To Have and Have Not I came upon Watching the movies together (eweToob) ‘crucial classics movie reactions’, where we are going to watch the movie with her.


Her preface is an introduction to the basis of the movie in which she (she’s an adult) says that Hemingway situated the book in Cuba but for political reasons they moved it to Martinique. She’s not really sure why because it’s not a popular tourist destination.

She has no idea, no knowledge that Cuba fought with the allies against the Nazis. And Martinique which was occupied by the Vichy French government which was allied with the Nazis. She states that Vichy France fought the Nazis.

The movie, although fiction was situationally accurate.

This is where people get their information.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 15, 2025 09:28 PM (4v7VO)

197 I'm going with a classic from Thanksgiving 20201

Always amusing when the cobs steal Ace's time machine which he totally doesn't have for their own nefarious porpoises.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in a century far, far ahead at November 15, 2025 09:31 PM (vBt7m)

198 Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:25 PM (asXVI)

Ah yes I did not read the caption there sorry.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 15, 2025 09:31 PM (R86kT)

199 We'll probably get Cthulhu as a romantic hero.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 08:50 PM (iJfKG)


You know, it really is The Thing with the wrong side being the protagonists

Posted by: Kindltot at November 15, 2025 09:32 PM (rbvCR)

200 moviegique, what are your books so I can add them to my Amazon wishlists? :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:32 PM (cQHrm)

201 Saw "Predator: Badlands"

I enjoyed it.

I don't want to oversell it, but it is tremendously entertaining. I won't be at all surprised if it isn't the big earnings winner for the fall box office, maybe the winter too if it has legs.

And no, it's not a "gay" movie at all.

Elle Fanning does a great job, as she's literally the only "real" actor in the movie amidst all the EFX. She sells the flick.

Not a great movie but again...entertaining, very fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 09:37 PM (iJfKG)

202 Great action flick with pulse-pounding pacing, this "Unstoppable".

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:39 PM (kpS4V)

203 Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 09:37 PM (iJfKG)

The guy at cosmicbook dot news didn't like it. He felt it was woke.

The Predator was hated by his family and then found solace amongst a nurturing group of females.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:41 PM (Sco7b)

204 Thanks for asking qdp! Books are here:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJWYDNSN?binding=kindle_edition

Kindle, softback, hardback.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:42 PM (asXVI)

205 I was rather surprised on a recent viewing to discover Thanksgiving makes no appearance in the film whatsoever--though it was released one week before Thanksgiving in 1946.


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Very confusing.!..and the track from The Sound of Music -My Favorite Things, is round the clock around Christmas. Even though the movie is set in the Summer!


Posted by: runner at November 15, 2025 09:42 PM (g47mK)

206 Agree 100%, 'Fake. Fanning's chirpy positivity was an hoot. And I bet we'll get a sequel.

I think the NZ actor who played Dek did a good job too, considering he could only emote through his eyes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:43 PM (kpS4V)

207 The reviewers who bleat Woke! and Girlboss! at everything are as annoying as the lefty critics these days.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:45 PM (kpS4V)

208 Funny you mention Frankenstein. I read the book recently and was really disappointed that Whoreywood never really did it justice.

Today, as it happens, I finished Bram Stoker's "Dracula." Holy shitballs (I am borrowing that expression).

Did Whoreywood ever give it the full story?

The reason I am giving you shit tonight is because Whoreywood has been fucking us for the past 100 years.

Has there ever been a classic book that Whoreywood didn't pervert?

Posted by: no one at November 15, 2025 09:46 PM (W7XSX)

209 Isn't there a Thanksgiving horror movie from like a year or two ago?

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:46 PM (kpS4V)

210 I've never gotten around to the book To Have and Have Not, so I can't say whether the movie is at all faithful to the source (I suspect it's not very faithful at all). Seem to recall an anecdote in which Hemingway is talking to Howard Hawks, who says "I could make a good movie from the worst book you ever wrote." Hemingway immediately asks which one that might be, and Hawks shoots back "To Have and Have Not."

Think I've heard elsewhere that Across the River and Into the Trees is supposed to be Papa's worst (of the books published during his lifetime). Too long since I read it, so can't say. But I caught the movie from it last night and thought the flick wasn't bad at all; Venice looked great and Liev Schreiber was pretty good in there.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 09:46 PM (q3u5l)

211 Tony Scott's one of those guys I just can't get into. I try, and I just find myself thinking "This is dumb."

But of course, action movies are ALL dumb, so that can't really be it. It's just something about the aesthetic that usually pulls me out.

"Top Gun"'s okay, "Crimson Tide"...I always get disappointed it's not "Hunt For Red October"...I kinda like "The Last Boy Scout," at least for a while. IDK. It's not as bad as I am with Mann or Scorsese, but it's not good.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:46 PM (asXVI)

212 Are you suggesting that "Andy Warhol's Frankenstein" did not respect the source material?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:47 PM (kpS4V)

213 @211 True Romance worked because of Scott's direction, Tarantino's script and an awesome cast

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 15, 2025 09:49 PM (bfwj/)

214 Very confusing.!..and the track from The Sound of Music -My Favorite Things, is round the clock around Christmas. Even though the movie is set in the Summer!
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What IS the deal? I think it's because the song mentions "sleigh bells" and "snowflakes" and "mittens".

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209 Isn't there a Thanksgiving horror movie from like a year or two ago?
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Eli Roth's Thanksgiving. Inspired by his trailer during "Grindhouse".

https://moviegique.com/2023/12/holidays-at-the-extremes/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:49 PM (asXVI)

215 Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 09:37 PM (iJfKG)

The guy at cosmicbook dot news didn't like it. He felt it was woke.

The Predator was hated by his family and then found solace amongst a nurturing group of females.
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:41 PM (Sco7b)


I think he's over thinking it. I didn't find it any more woke than I would Terminator 2. Where the robot becomes more human by hanging around with a woman and a kid.

Also our protagonist Pred. isn't hated so much as he's the runt of the littler and by their laws must be killed, and he is saved from that fate by his brother.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 09:50 PM (iJfKG)

216 I loved the P.D.James book "The Children of Men."

Whoreywood completely perverted the moral of the story.

My cautioning you is this. Whoreywood is NOT american culture. It never was. It never is. It has its influences, perhaps more in the 60s and 70s than now.

Posted by: no one at November 15, 2025 09:50 PM (W7XSX)

217 212 Are you suggesting that "Andy Warhol's Frankenstein" did not respect the source material?!
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I believe the salient quote is "To know death, Otto, you have to fuck life in the gall bladder."

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:50 PM (asXVI)

218 Wasn't "The Children of Men" a British movie?

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:52 PM (kpS4V)

219 Andy Warhol's Dracula was a hoot. Count seeks a virgin in Italy in a noble house and cannot find one.

Posted by: no one at November 15, 2025 09:52 PM (W7XSX)

220 "To know death, Otto, you have to fuck life in the gall bladder."
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I now have my tombstone quote.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 09:53 PM (kpS4V)

221 "Wasn't "The Children of Men" a British movie?"

You think the British film industry is less corrupt?

Posted by: no one at November 15, 2025 09:54 PM (W7XSX)

222 || Funny you mention Frankenstein. I read the book recently and was really disappointed that Whoreywood never really did it justice.

I did not see the Branagh "Frankenstein", but I will presume you're correct.

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Today, as it happens, I finished Bram Stoker's "Dracula."
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Did Whoreywood ever give it the full story?
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Well, the book's about 700 pages, which translates into nearly 12 hours. Compromises have to be made.

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Has there ever been a classic book that Whoreywood didn't pervert?
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For some definitions of "classic" and "pervert," absolutely.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:54 PM (asXVI)

223 214 Very confusing.!..and the track from The Sound of Music -My Favorite Things, is round the clock around Christmas. Even though the movie is set in the Summer!
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What IS the deal? I think it's because the song mentions "sleigh bells" and "snowflakes" and "mittens".

Mom was a nun for 14 years.

I have not seen anywhere near the number of movies as most of you. Rural Canada. No nearby movie theaters.

But I have seen "Sound of Music" at least 10 times. At least. It's pretty well etched into my brain.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:54 PM (Sco7b)

224 I now have my tombstone quote.
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I'm not sure what the quote will be, but whatever it is will be followed with "...said the robot pimp disdainfully."

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:55 PM (asXVI)

225 Well, outta here for the evening.

Moviegique, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 15, 2025 09:56 PM (q3u5l)

226 "Children of Men" was a surreal experience for me.

It was well-made but completely incoherent...but it was hugely praised and some people thought it was a documentary, apparently.

https://moviegique.com/2009/02/reprint-children-of-men/

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 09:57 PM (asXVI)

227 Posted by: naturalfake at November 15, 2025 09:50 PM (iJfKG)

Thanks.

I did watch Terminator: Dark Fate I think it was called, a few weeks back.

Now that was woke. Aside from Arnold, all females. Latina heroine. Quarter of the movie in Spanish with subtitles.

It wasn't horrible. But still.

Just give it a rest once in a while.

Hot latina heroine....so there was that...

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 09:58 PM (Sco7b)

228 There's no perverts like show perverts, like no perverts I know!

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 09:58 PM (cQHrm)

229 Thanks for an entertaining movie thread!

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 15, 2025 10:00 PM (kpS4V)

230 53 gp, wait 'til ya see Mel's sequel to Passion Of The Christ.

"Passion 2: This Time it's Personal!" ;-)

(Imagining Jesus with a machine gun, crewcut and smirk.)
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 15, 2025 08:06 PM (cQHrm)

Mel is making a sequel. I think it is supposed to cover from the resurrection to Pentecost.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 15, 2025 10:00 PM (zPjZn)

231 "How dare you put my daughter in that position!!"

Posted by: Andy Warhol's Dracula at November 15, 2025 10:01 PM (Q+gd/)

232 231 "How dare you put my daughter in that position!!"
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Avant garde, man.

Also, both "Andy Warhol's [Monster]" movies were directed by Paul Morrissey, IIRC, and Warhol had nothing to do with them.

Which, honestly, is peak Warhol.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 10:02 PM (asXVI)

233 Thanks for coming by everyone! Great thread, see you on December 6th, possibly for an in-depth review of "No Country For Old Men".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 10:02 PM (asXVI)

234 Posted by: moviegique (buy my books!) at November 15, 2025 10:02 PM (asXVI)

Thank you moviegique.

Have a very happy Thanksgiving.
And the rest of the days too.

Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 15, 2025 10:08 PM (Sco7b)

235 78
TJM is doing an Otto Preminger series and I've been trying to watch along. However, it is damn hard finding his films on any streaming service.

Not exactly streaming but...

https://is.gd/P1lFWD
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 15, 2025 08:18 PM (pkeXY)

thankee

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