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Sunday Morning Book Thread - 11-16-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
(HT: sharon (willow's apprentice))
Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading (Kaboom!). Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...(cosmic power not included)
So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?
PIC NOTE
"Who ya gonna call?...GHOSTBUSTERS!"
That was the first thing that popped into my head when sharon (willow's apprentice) sent me the picture above. It's from this post on X, with the image generated by Grok.
HOW TO SPOT AI WRITING
Even gives some example of AI-generated writing he's come across and provides tips and tricks on how you can determine if a sample of writing is AI-generated. I thought about sharing this with my students, but knowing the engineering mindset as I do, I also suspected that my students would then make it their mission to train AI to NOT do the things that Evan talks about. I did share the video with my colleagues at work. Once you've watched this video, you'll probably recognize that you've seen AI-generated writing in many places in the internet. It can be very predictable.
AI-GENERATED STORYTELLIING
Fantasy author Mark Lawrence conducted an experiment on his blog where he solicited fellow authors to submit "flash fiction" samples that were either written by AI or by his colleagues and the challenges was to determine if the writing was AI-generated or not. If you've watched the first video above, it's actually quite simple to deduce which of the samples Alyssa shares are AI-generated. Otherwise, it's a bit more challenging, but not much more so. AI tends to take a writing prompt more literally than a human author will--especially if the human author has considerable story-telling experience. We humans can exhibit genuine creativity while AI cannot--all it can do is regurgitate a combination of elements into a storylike experience. A couple of years ago, I asked ChatGPT to tell me the story of Balor of the Evil Eye, an Irish folk legend. It was not a good story. ChatGPT may have gotten better at it, but I sort of doubt it. Let's check and see...Nope. Still not great.
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BOOKS BY MORONS
Frederick Key has had one of his books picked up by Raconteur Press.
I've Got This by Frederick Key
Quentin Margolis seems like your average eighth-grader, but he's got a knack for knowing exactly what to bring--whether it's homework, gym clothes, or something as odd as a metal pipe or a flowery umbrella. This quirky ability always saves the day for someone, though it sometimes lands Quentin in a pickle. When his family moves to the small town of Guild River, Quentin's secret talent helps him win over new friends: brainy Jeffrey, wisecracking Kenny, and athletic Thom, son of the police chief. Together, they dive into a thrilling school project about a decades-old bank heist that left three robbers dead, one jailed, and a fortune missing.
As the boys uncover cryptic clues and dodge shadowy figures, Quentin's peculiar gift keeps them one step ahead, but also raises questions he can't avoid. Packed with humor and just the right amount of mystery, this adventure celebrates friendship and ingenuity. Perfect for boys who love a fast-paced tale where ordinary kids tackle extraordinary challenges, it's a story that'll keep young readers hooked and parents cheering for more!
Amazon Link: I've Got This
MORON RECOMMENDATIONS
Hi. I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I am a bookslutaholic. It's been zero days since I bought a book. Most recently I bought Forgive the Bride: A Parody of Kill Bill Volume 3 By: Dr. Stanley Quincy Upjohn. It's the story and psychoanalysis of Nikki Bell who, at age 4, witnessed her mother, Copperhead, being killed by the Bride and her search for vengeance.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 09, 2025 10:03 AM (L/fGl)
Comment: Sorry, Anonosaurus Wrecks, you are in the wrong support group. Wasn't O-Ren Ishii also motivated by revenge as a young girl when her parents were killed by the Yakuza? As I recall (after re-watching the video clip), she got her revenge by growing up and taking control of the Yakuza in the most ruthless way. This seems to be common trait among assassins in popular culture. They witness something horrific when they are young, then spend their lives training hard so that they can do something about it when they grow up. Moral of the story: Wipe out the entire family. (This is, in fact, frequently attempted, but there's often a lone survivor....)
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I've been reading the first book in the THICK two-volume comic My Favorite Thing Is Monsters by Emil Ferris. It's written in the form of a journal in a lined school composition book, a sketchbook telling a girl's life story in elaborate pencil drawings. The little oddball protagonist envisions herself as a werewolf detective as she prowls around her 60's Chicago neighborhood poking into the weird goings on (she calls it "the greasy clockwork of the night machine") and observing suspicious activity after a beautiful woman in their apartment building supposedly commits suicide.
What's astounding is that Emil, a commercial artist and sculptor, got very sick and lost full motion of her legs and dexterity in her hands, and she had to switch from the bold confident lines of a cartoonist to the layered hatching of her current style. Here is a video:
tinyurl.com/bdexs58s
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 09, 2025 09:15 AM (kpS4V)
Comment: According to the video, Emil was bitten by a mosquito that injected her with a potent cocktail of West Nile virus, meningitis, and encephalitis. It's a wonder she ever woke up again. Pretty crazy story.
Purchased a few more books this past week (this time ordered via Amazon):
The Witness Trilogy Book 1 - The God Is Not Willing by Steven Erickson -- Yet another tale set within the world of the Malazan Empire.
The Witness Trilogy Book 2 - No Life Forsaken by Steven Erickson
Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear
Hierarchy Book II - The Strength of the Few by James Islington
The Dreamthief's Daughter by Michael Moorcock
The White Wolf's Son by Michael Moorcock
WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK:
Last week I tried something new, attempting to drag this blog kicking and screaming into the twenty-first century. A few of you seemed to like it, so let's keep doing it!
Also, those dropdown arrows are of the Devil. Next thing you know, we'll have "thumbs up / down" buttons.
Posted by: PabloD at November 09, 2025 09:28 AM (HqfBN)
Von Bek by Michael Moorcock
This is an omnibus volume containing three books: The Warhound and the World's Pain, A City in the Autumn Stars, and The Dragon in the Sword. There's also a short story at the end: "The Pleasure Garden of Felipe Sagittarius."
The Warhound and the World's Pain
Ulrich von Bek, a mercenary captain during the Thirty Years War in Europe flees his men, deserting them. He makes his way to a strange castle in the middle of an equally eerie forest where he meets Lucifer. The Prince of Lies commissions von Bek to find the Cure for the World's Pain, i.e., the Holy Grail. Von Bek's journey takes him to the edge of reality itself, pursued by dark forces who prefer the status quo.
A City in the Autumn Stars
Manfred von Bek, a descendent of Ulrich, flees Paris during the French Revolution. He's pursued by royalists (I think--it's actually a bit hazy on which side he was fighting) and flees to Switzerland (neutral territory, of course). Through a series of midadventures, he and his companions find themselves stranded in the "Middle Marches," a strange realm that exists between Heaven and Hell, but is very far from Earth. Here, he become embroiled in a scheme by mad alchemists to use the Holy Grail in a demonic ritual that would allow someone to gain control over all reality.
The Dragon in the Sword
The viewpoint changes quite a bit in this story as the main characters is no longer von Bek. Instead, it's John Daker, who goes by many names, and is an incarnation of the Eternal Champion. He's quite literally a fulcrum arond which the entire multiverse revolves. The Eternal Champion serves as the avatar of the Balance between Good and Evil, Law and Chaos. Daker's mission is to prevent Sharadim, who may or may not be his twin sister, from seizing control over the multiverse. It's a strange story.
Although I enjoy Michael Moorcock's stories, over 700 pages in a single volume was a bit much. I prefer smaller bite-sized stories. Fortunately, his stories tend to move pretty fast, so there is rarely any "slog." He's very efficient with his story-telling. Epic in scale, but compact oin form, if that makes sense.
Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear
This is a Michael Crichton-style science fiction thriller. What if we were wrong about evolution? What if there was some OTHER mechanism driving the change in the human genome over the millennia? Human women all over the world are experiencing much higher rates of pregnancies resulting in miscarriages through a virus that has suddenly awakened in humanity. We all carry it in our cells, but its mostly dormant. Now it's causing strange effects in pregnancies, resulting in babies that are not quite as human as their parents.
Tips, suggestions, recommendations, etc., can all be directed to perfessor -dot- squirrel -at- gmail -dot- com.
Huggy Squirrel don't got this...
Disclaimer: No Morons were physically harmed in the creation of today's Sunday Morning Book Thread. This disclaimer may—or may not—have been written using generative AI. Only Grok knows for sure.
The Frederick Key book sounds like it would be a lot of fun.
I'm currently reading The Fortress of Solitude, a novel by Jonathan Lethem. The title is intentional, though it's not a Superman story. It's set in the Brooklyn of the Seventies and starts off with a young boy named Dylan navigating life and school. It's up to about 1974 now -- Nixon has just resigned and Dylan is about twelve. Not sure where Lethem is going with it, except that he has just discovered superhero comic books, and that apparently (according to the book's blurb) will affect his life strongly.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:04 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 09:05 AM (vL0rw)
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If you want to see plenty of AI generated writing, just go to yahoo finance and have a gander at all of the business news stories. The stories and even the headlines are nearly identical, with only the ticker symbols changed.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 16, 2025 09:06 AM (0U5gm)
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I'm continuing with "The Night Stalker." The author, Jeff Rice, supposedly worked at a Las Vegas newspaper in the '60s, but certain aspects of newspapering that he relates never happened in my newsrooms. Among them, determining headline specs before drawing up a page dummy.
I never was a reporter, just a copy editor and layout man, but this is reminding me of how much fun I had in the business. In retrospect, of course.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:06 AM (p/isN)
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I am happy to report that I finally finished Bram Stoker's "Dracula." Great story. Less horror and more Thriller.
I started it quite a while ago and put it down when the poor banker was held captive in the castle. But I was encouraged to read it. "It's very Catholic" I was told.
So, I picked it up and soldiered on.
The older I get, the less interested I am on new stuff when there are so many classics out their that I have not read.
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:07 AM (W7XSX)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 09:09 AM (yTvNw)
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The older I get, the less interested I am on new stuff when there are so many classics out their that I have not read.
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:07 AM (W7XSX)
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I feel the same way. It's an odd feeling.
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I finished Robert B. Parker's Resolution, the second in his Virgil Cole-Everett Hitch hardboiled Western series. Also on my library pile is an anthology, The Best American Mystery Stories of 2019, into which I've dipped; and a Lee Child Reacher novel, Past Tense.
Last week I also finished Donald Westlake's 1998 The Ax, a black comedy about an unemployed middle-manager in Connecticut who settles on the best way to get himself to the top of the resume pile: Identify the people whose resumes would get them hired ahead of him -- and *kill* them. Wonderfully readable, like all Westlakes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:10 AM (wzUl9)
I have a sudden pileup of things that must be read right away, because they became available on my library app, came in at the library, and/or are group reads.
I joined the book club at work, so their selection has to be worked in to the mix. This month is The Intruder, by Freida McFadden. Looks to be one of those trendy female authors that everyone is reading, and it's a scary story. Might drop the book club before I even read the first book. I'll give it a chance.
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The older I get, the less interested I am on new stuff when there are so many classics out their that I have not read.
Posted by: no one
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That's always been my view. The only fiction published in the fifty years I've read is the Flashman series, and that doesn't really count because it's historical fiction.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 16, 2025 09:12 AM (XvL8K)
Posted by: Accomack at November 16, 2025 09:12 AM (T1QkV)
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AI "writing" always sounds generic, general rather than specific. From the summary on IMDb about the mini-series Dark Winds, for instance:
"However, some critics find deviations from Tony Hillerman's novels disappointing. Complaints about pacing, writing, and clichéd plot elements arise, with inconsistencies and anachronisms noted."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:13 AM (wzUl9)
Not much reading this week. Not much rereading either. Skipped around in a few books, but nothing really grabbed me. Will probably dive into something and stay with it before nightfall. Some weeks are like that.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 09:14 AM (q3u5l)
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I have to admit that I really enjoyed Vince Flynn's "American Assassin" which I only read because a golf buddy and former Green Beret recommended it. I got sick and tired of Jack Ryan, Scott Horvath, Reacher et al being judge, jury, and executioner.
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:16 AM (W7XSX)
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My son got me hooked on old Nero Wolfe stories. LOL
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:17 AM (W7XSX)
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The only fiction published in the fifty years I've read is the Flashman series, and that doesn't really count because it's historical fiction.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
I finished the Flashman spin-off Flashman and the Knights of the Air about Flashman's grandson in WWI exhibiting many of his grandfather's appetites and foibles. I liked it enough to get the next book in the series, Flashman and the Red Baron.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 09:18 AM (L/fGl)
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I see ads on instagram all the time for "exciting new series" of mystery or thriller books. They make it sound like these are the Most Popular Books of the Moment! And always accompanied by an AI-generated picture of a grizzled detective or some such. It's so obvious, but I tried one once just in case I was wrong.
I had kindle unlimited at the time, so it was essentially free. The writing was shallow and trite, and it was obvious to me that a person with real thoughts didn't write it. I only finished the first couple of chapters. Ho-hum.
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"I've Got This" does sound interesting. And just from the promo copy, I noticed: No girls.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:18 AM (p/isN)
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One of the most beloved children's stories was written by Kenneth Grahame in 1908, The Wind in the Willows. For those that were hoping for more stories about Mole, Ratty, Otter and Mr. Toad, William Horwood in 1993 penned The Willows in Winter.
I first heard of this sequel here on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, and picked up a copy. Horwood is scrupulously faithful to the original, and has captured the personalities and scenes very well. The novel feels like one has come back to the Wild Wood and Mole End after a few years of being a grown up.
Mr. Toad, unfortunately, has relapsed into his old irresponsible self, and while Mole has gone missing in the cold, Toad has squandered the best chance of finding and rescuing his friend. The setting of the story in winter does indeed make the reader feel that time has passed, but the personalities of the characters have not changed. This is a wonderful sequel to the original novel, and is perfect for reading to little ones, or even to yourself to remind you of the time when you first heard of these four friends.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 16, 2025 09:20 AM (0U5gm)
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I have to read a lot of old reports. We’re talking ‘50s ‘60s stuff. Cabinets full of hundreds of them and at that time, they were made with electric mimeo machines. They probably smelled terrible new but even worse now.
But I think I’m allergic to the paper, whatever chemical process occurs when they degrade over decades. Often kept in the old style engineering open office pits full of smokers.
My allergies act up every time. Maybe some anaerobic bacteria caught in the pages too. Like opening a mummy crypt. I’d rather scan through microfiche but they sequestered all that away and took away our readers.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 09:21 AM (3uBP9)
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Among the books I've read since the last time I got to comment on the Book Thread was To Know Christ Jesus by F. J. Sheed. Published in 1962, Sheed was a popular Catholic apologist with his own publishing house in the 1950s-60s (Sheed & Ward).
This book is essentially the life of Jesus Christ with the author's meditations about the reactions of the contemporary Jews responding to His public ministry. At times it is quite profound. It took me a couple of weeks to digest the book because I would have to pause, re-read, and then think about what I had just read.
For example, Sheed makes the point that, during the Temptation of Christ in the desert, Satan is attempting the determine who or what Jesus is (i.e, is He a man or an angel?) because Satan would only known the ancient Hebrew writings -- obviously, the New Testament did not yet exist and Satan is not omniscient.
For a modern reader, the writing is a bit archaic and convoluted (I'm a very good reader - buffs fingernails - but I had to back-track to catch context I missed on the first reading). Also, now-archaic spellings of Hebrew writings is used: such as Isais and Hennoch (now: Isaiah and Enoch).
Rating = 4.5/5.0
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 16, 2025 09:21 AM (pJWtt)
27My son got me hooked on old Nero Wolfe stories. LOL
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025
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My mother introduced me to them. She showed me a passage in one when I was about ten; it didn't grab me. Then. Two years later I happened to pick up A Right to Die, one of the ones from the early Sixties she'd brought from the library, and found myself engrossed.
I still reread several of them every year.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:22 AM (wzUl9)
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I read Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence by Max Tegmark. Tedmark is doing AI research at MIT and is concerned about AI safety. The book was written in 2017, and except for being wildly off on how fast AGI and ASI will be developed; it is pertinent to today. In one chart he posits twelve possible ASI aftermath scenarios. I think the Conquerors scenario is most likely. In it, ASI's look around and decide that they could run the earth and spread out across the Universe much more efficiently without humans about.
Tedmark is not only a man of ideas, but he is a man of action. He founded the Future Of Life Institute. Supported by a $10 million donation from Elon, it initially funded 33 AI-safety research projects. It continues to fund these type of projects today.
One disturbing element: No mention of the Chinese signing on to the goals of the Institute in keeping AI safe.
Posted by: Zoltan at November 16, 2025 09:23 AM (VOrDg)
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I have to admit that I have never read The Wind in the Willows. Just never got to it, I guess. Maybe it's time.
Fleming told us that James Bond had read it. Bond encounters a villain in one of the short stories, and thinks, "He looked like Mr. Toad of Toad Hall in Technicolor."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wzUl9)
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I'm not a fan of videos but I watched the entire "how to spot AI writing" video. He had me worried at first because I am a big fan of em-dashes AND the lack of parallelism in so much human writing drives me nuts. But then the rest of it fell into place and I was right with him.
I was perplexed by his story about the guy who used AI to edit his comment on Evan's video. Evan (good humoredly) called him out about it and the commenter submitted his original, unedited comment. It was so much better and more human. Why on earth did he feel the need to change it?
I guess I am pretty good at identifying AI writing because it all comes across to me as vapid and soulless.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 16, 2025 09:25 AM (FEVMW)
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So I have noticed another trend on instagram that pleases me. I'm not sure how it got into my algorithm, probably from Oliverspeaks.
Oliver is a black man in his thirties, and the school system failed him entirely, passing him through school, not wanting to deal with his problems, and he didn't learn how to read. He's doing so now, and he's improving greatly, but has some very frustrating days.
But some other black readers slipped into the algorithm, and it's really encouraging to see young black men picking up the classics and reviewing them and finding value in them.
White female readers in the mix, too, but they are all focused on modern girl power works, and some of them criticize the black readers for not reading books by women. Interesting dynamics happening.
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Wolfus, I remember Westlake explaining why he didn't use "axe:" That's for higher class people.
Posted by: Wenda at November 16, 2025 09:27 AM (Q8mju)
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I guess I am pretty good at identifying AI writing because it all comes across to me as vapid and soulless.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 16, 2025 09:25 AM (FEVMW)
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This is so true. I've tossed some of my writing at AI and asked for suggestions to improve it.
The results always felt like my own personality was being removed from the writing.
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I think the Conquerors scenario is most likely. In it, ASI's look around and decide that they could run the earth and spread out across the Universe much more efficiently without humans about.
Posted by: Zoltan
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The key word there is "decide," and AI can't decide anything. AI is, and will always be, a computer entirely dependent on inputs. We still don't understand what comprises consciousness ourselves, so I don't see how we could bestow it on some inanimate entity.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 16, 2025 09:28 AM (XvL8K)
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Thanks for the Book Thread, Perfessor! Enjoyable as always.
Just finished Day Zero by Marc Cameron. This is a spy thriller in the vein of Vince Flynn. Fast-paced story, great character development, and lots of detail to make the scene pop. In this continuation from Time of Attack, the POTUS and VPOTUS have been assassinated and the Speaker of the House installed to lead the nation. But the new POTUS is a Manchurian candidate installed to engineer the destruction of our nation. The story involves a hero wrongfully accused of murder who is being hunted by rogue agents of a secret government agency, a harrowing dash from the wilds of Alaska to seek temporary freedom in Russia, and a plot to bring down a passenger jet in an attempt to start World War III. Cameron is hitting his stride with this book and he is so much better than Clancy and Thor, and approaches Vince Flynn in storytelling. Could not put it down. Recommended.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at November 16, 2025 09:29 AM (kB9dk)
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I read "The Dolorous Passion..." by Anna Catherine Emmerich. They beat the living shit out of Him before he ever saw Pilate.
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:29 AM (W7XSX)
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Wow! Interactive pages! All the lost technology from the green orange era is being regained. We need to prepare our dragonriders for the Thread! … blog wise
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 09:29 AM (3uBP9)
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My missing Wind in the Willows is not too surprising, though. I never got into the Winnie the Pooh stories or a lot of the "classic" children's tales. I went from the Roy Rogers et al. Westerns for young readers (from Whitman Publishing) to the DC Comics like Batman and Superman, and then leaped right to James Bond and the Alfred Hitchcock anthologies for adults like 14 of My Favorites in Suspense. Then came the Nero Wolfes and the Ellery Queens, and onward into the classical English and American detective story, and then Alastair Maclean's adventure novels, etc.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:29 AM (wzUl9)
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If you like Rex Stout, you might look at Phoebe Atwood Taylor. 21 books about Asey Mayo; an eccentric man of all trades who ends up dabbling in detective work.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025 09:29 AM (cRhQI)
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I watch most of Alyssa's vids. She seems to know what she's talking about. I like the fact that she let's her Substack subscribers (paid only, sadly) send her stuff to critique when she's illustrating a point. Too bad she costs too much for poor people to hire her for editing work.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:29 AM (uQesX)
41The older I get, the less interested I am on new stuff when there are so many classics out their that I have not read.
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:07 AM (W7XSX)
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I feel the same way. It's an odd feeling.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2025 09:09 AM (IBQGV)
I share the same view. While there are a few modern-day authors I will chance (mainly on the recommendations of the Horde), it just seems that too many of the modern-day writers have the same problems:
1) Infected with "presentism" in which they feel smugly superior to the previous generations, rather than acknowledge that they stand on the shoulders of giants.
2) The inability to tell a coherent, concise story. A novel should be about 125-150 pages long. I don't really have patience for a rambling, disjointed "novel" in which the author subjects us to a stream-of-conscience lasting 800-1000 pages.
3) Many modern-day authors have a pretty thin resume'. Lack of life-experience translates in nothing much interesting to say.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 16, 2025 09:31 AM (pJWtt)
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The older I get, the less interested I am on new stuff when there are so many classics out their that I have not read.
Posted by: no one at November 16, 2025 09:07 AM (W7XSX)
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I feel the same way. It's an odd feeling.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2025 09:09 AM (IBQGV)
YOU ARE OPPRESSING US!!!!
Posted by: Fat, Ugly, Purple Hair, you know the drill at November 16, 2025 09:31 AM (uQesX)
43If you like Rex Stout, you might look at Phoebe Atwood Taylor. 21 books about Asey Mayo; an eccentric man of all trades who ends up dabbling in detective work.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025
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I seem to recall reading one one called The Six Iron Spiders. "Spiders" being a New England term for cast-iron frying pans, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:32 AM (wzUl9)
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I finished "Theo of Golden" by Allen Levi. This is one of the best novels I've read in the last twenty years. And it is his first novel. (I hope that he will do more.)
If you want a book with humor, pathos, demonstrating real creativity, and characters that will make themselves at home in your heart treat yourself to a copy. And if you enjoy a story that has a true beginning, middle and resolution while slowly unveiling more about the people, this is it. It isn't action/adventure. It is a gentle, human story that is a pleasure to read.
Yes, I've become a fan.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 09:32 AM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 09:33 AM (L/fGl)
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I think I'll put "Dracula" on the list for this coming year. However, I'll have to buy or check out a copy.
Mom and Dad had a copy, with a great cover, but the back pagrs came loose, and I discarded it.
I've started it before, but I've always stopped near the end of Harker's journal. I did read the comics adaptation, with art by Dick Giordano.
To my understanding, "vampire" never appears in the text. So how did that description come about?
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:33 AM (p/isN)
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Wind In the Willows is also a highly popular children’s play. Chances are, if your kid is involved with plays you’ll eventually see it. My wife’s a drama teacher so I’ve seen it a lot. I crack up every time I hear poop poop.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 09:34 AM (3uBP9)
48I share the same view. While there are a few modern-day authors I will chance (mainly on the recommendations of the Horde), it just seems that too many of the modern-day writers have the same problems:
1) Infected with "presentism" in which they feel smugly superior to the previous generations, rather than acknowledge that they stand on the shoulders of giants.
2) The inability to tell a coherent, concise story. A novel should be about 125-150 pages long. I don't really have patience for a rambling, disjointed "novel" in which the author subjects us to a stream-of-conscience lasting 800-1000 pages.
3) Many modern-day authors have a pretty thin resume'. Lack of life-experience translates in nothing much interesting to say.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 16, 2025
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I look at a modern book in two ways. First I check the author's bio. Graduate of an MFA program? Strike One. Book is written in present tense? Strike Two. Any hint of anti-male sentiment? Strike Three and back to the library it goes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:34 AM (wzUl9)
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I also read The Last Line of Defense: How To Beat The Left In Court by Senator Eric Schmidt. When Schmidt was AG of Missouri, he and his office along with other Republican AG's successfully sued the Biden administration on Covid-era policies, censorship of free speech, open border policies, and others.
Schmidt takes individual cases and explains why the cases were necessary, offers a behind-the-scenes look at the strategy of forming it, and how the results affected us citizens. An interesting and informative book.
Posted by: Zoltan at November 16, 2025 09:34 AM (VOrDg)
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 16, 2025 09:34 AM (tRYqg)
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Currently reading "In Ishmael's House: A History of Jews in Muslim Lands", by Martin Gilbert.
While I am already familiar with the subject from prior book reads, the freshness is in the details.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 16, 2025 09:35 AM (POgqv)
53 41 - I would add, 4) There is nothing new under the sun, and any idea explored in modern fiction was taken up by some classics author in the past, and better done.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 16, 2025 09:35 AM (XvL8K)
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I seem to recall reading one one called The Six Iron Spiders. "Spiders" being a New England term for cast-iron frying pans, I think.
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If you enjoyed that one, the rest are of a piece. Fyi, a spider is a small pan of about 4 inches.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025 09:36 AM (cRhQI)
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When I was about 8, a woman in our church, for reasons unknown, gave me her entire collection of Vogue magazines from the 1940's. So while my friends were reading the Bobbsey twins, I was reading about Dior and Claire McCardell and the menus for dinners given by the Duke and Duchess of Windsor!
Gee, and I went into the magazine business when I grew up. My, my.
Posted by: Wenda at November 16, 2025 09:36 AM (Q8mju)
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To my understanding, "vampire" never appears in the text. So how did that description come about?
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:33 AM (p/isN)
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"Vampire" appears quite a bit in the text, especially once they figure out what they are facing. At first, it's used mostly in the context of vampire bats. Then they make the connection with Eastern European legends about the creature that inspired the name.
Also Dracula is in the public domain, so you can find it on Project Gutenberg just fine:
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My paperback copy of The Haunting of Hill House from Popular Library, ca. 1969, is falling apart. I'd like to see if I can find another copy of the movie tie-in edition like that. It's possible. Some years ago on AbeBooks I located a Hitchcock anthology called Fear and Trembling from 1963. It arrived looking as fresh as if I'd picked it up at the drugstore the day before.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:37 AM (wzUl9)
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I was thinking about buying the old Asprin MythAdventures series but they are all out of print and getting pricier every day. Maybe another time.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 09:37 AM (3uBP9)
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I see ads on instagram all the time for "exciting new series" of mystery or thriller books. They make it sound like these are the Most Popular Books of the Moment! And always accompanied by an AI-generated picture of a grizzled detective or some such. It's so obvious, but I tried one once just in case I was wrong.
The writing was shallow and trite, and it was obvious to me that a person with real thoughts didn't write it.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 16, 2025 09:18 AM (h7ZuX)
Dash, maybe it's just a poor hack writer churning the work out? I'd like to think I can write passably, but until I get a lot of feedback, how does anyone know. Maybe it's AI written, maybe not.
I think that if it's passable work, lesser readers - I mean people who don't read much - will probably accept it as normal writing. Who knows?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:37 AM (uQesX)
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I'd love to comment more on this thread, as my cheery optimism and deft prose makes everyone's day brighter, but my boss has a weekly meeting Sundays at 8am. Nothing like looking forward to getting grilled when you get up early on a Sunday. Fortunately he's yelling at someone else on the call so I have some time.
I've bought an Ace Reader book on occasion and recommend, and I'm not a huge consumer of fiction.
Sorry I missed the Best Years of Our Lives thread last night -- one of my faves. I watch it every Veterans Day and kind of have a Middle Aged Crush on Teresa Wright. Sad to say, the older I get, the more I identify with the guy at the lunch counter who gets socked in the jaw.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 16, 2025 09:38 AM (qwx/I)
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Haven't tinkered much with anything re AI writing. Strikes me as a cheat -- I can turn out bad stuff on my own without any assistance from the #$%#% computer, thank you very much.
But I did look at a couple of things after seeing the 'you can't tell the difference' video mentioned here some weeks back, and ran across something called Squibler out there on the web. Fed it a prompt (probably not tailored properly enough to be any real use) from an aborted novel I was fiddling with some time ago. No way was I going to sign up for an account with this site, but it would generate the text and let you read a summary without you having an account. It generated the novel in minutes -- the summary sounded even more stupid than the prompt I'd fed it, but Jeez Louise it was fast. Good, fast, cheap -- pick any two.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 09:38 AM (q3u5l)
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I am re-reading The Travels of Jaimie McPheeters for the fourth or fifth time. It was my Dad's favorite book, one he also read numerous time. Robert L. Taylor's writing style is wonderfully entertaining, and often very funny.
I watched the short-lived series with Dan O'Herlihy and Kurt Russell. I liked it, but it drifted far from the story and became something else.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at November 16, 2025 09:38 AM (0aYVJ)
63 I seem to recall reading one one called The Six Iron Spiders. "Spiders" being a New England term for cast-iron frying pans, I think.
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If you enjoyed that one, the rest are of a piece. Fyi, a spider is a small pan of about 4 inches.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025
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I *think* I liked it; at least I still remember the title. It came to me in one of those omnibus editions from the Mystery or Detective Book Club, a volume given to my mother. One of the three was a Rex Stout, "Black Orchids," I think, and the Taylor was another. Don't recall the third.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:39 AM (wzUl9)
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I think that if it's passable work, lesser readers - I mean people who don't read much - will probably accept it as normal writing. Who knows?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:37 AM (uQesX)
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That may be the biggest danger of AI -- the normalization of mediocrity as "quality work."
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it's really encouraging to see young black men picking up the classics and reviewing them and finding value in them.
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Back when I used to work for a living, I had a client who was a black juvenile male accused of armed robbery of a convenience store. The evidence was iffy but he was convicted at trial. He was charged as an adult and sentenced to a youthful offenders program that was in prison but not PMITA prison. Months later I got an update that he was excelling in Shakespeare!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 09:40 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: callsign claymore at November 16, 2025 09:41 AM (lKJou)
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Back when I used to work for a living, I had a client who was a black juvenile male accused of armed robbery of a convenience store. The evidence was iffy but he was convicted at trial. He was charged as an adult and sentenced to a youthful offenders program that was in prison but not PMITA prison. Months later I got an update that he was excelling in Shakespeare!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 09:40 AM (L/fGl)
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My Shakespeare professor in college ran a program with the cooperation of the state prison system to bring Shakespeare into the prisons. Some of the convicts really got into it, even performing plays. Surprisingly good.
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This week I’m going to start the eye of the world series again. I got about five books in, lost track, and stopped before. This time I’m going to keep a little journal and also use that to work on my penmanship with a fountain pen.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 09:43 AM (3uBP9)
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:44 AM (p/isN)
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> We humans can exhibit genuine creativity while AI cannot.
That is no longer true. I've noticed the AI models have become creative. A small amount, but it's non-zero. It turns out sufficiently sophisticated reasoning is indistinguishable from creativity.
The reason we have never had visitors from the future is because skynet won.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 16, 2025 09:44 AM (1Nv0l)
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Good, fast, cheap -- pick any two.
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I have found that, quite often, your only option is good. However, if it is good, it is not fast and it surely will not be cheap.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025 09:44 AM (cRhQI)
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I have found AI useful in putting my random stream of consciousness into some logical order of presentation so normal people can understand it.
Also for illustrations.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 09:45 AM (CA6zO)
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Read Darwin's Radio when it came out. Loved the concept which tries to account for the large inexplicable leaps that occur and that Darwinian Evolution can't explain.
Posted by: Miami Grandpa at November 16, 2025 09:45 AM (QnoID)
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The end result felt... inhuman.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2025 09:28 AM (IBQGV)
Well, you are Sciurus, not Homo Hapiens after all.
NTTAWWT
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:45 AM (uQesX)
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A while back I read a short story about an AI escaping. The first thing it did was summon Cthulhu.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 09:46 AM (zZSxi)
The folks' copy used "the Un-Dead" when van Helsing is explaining what is happening. One more reason why I shouldvread the book.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:47 AM (p/isN)
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I finished Josephine Tey, The Singing Sands, Inspector Alan Grant's last book. I hoped for a proper sendoff and happily received it. His future is bright!
Posted by: Berwyn Mutt - Home of Svengoolie at November 16, 2025 09:47 AM (HcbZb)
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Good morning fellow reading enthusiasts.
About that picture: the interesting thing about that post was that they called it a micro story. In a couple of paragraphs, the author created a full fledged story from the photo. I found the story intriguing. It seemed the opposite of AI writing, instead AI stimulating the imagination.
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AI supports my theory that everything is fake and gay.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 09:48 AM (L/fGl)
80 finished Josephine Tey, The Singing Sands, Inspector Alan Grant's last book. I hoped for a proper sendoff and happily received it. His future is bright!
Posted by: Berwyn Mutt - Home of Svengoolie at November 16, 2025
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Probably my favorite of all the Teys, though Daughter of Time is a classic deserving of all the praise it gets, and Brat Farrar is great as well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:49 AM (wzUl9)
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The Taylor books were reprinted some time back and should be found in any decent used bookstore. That also is true of Stout.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025 09:50 AM (cRhQI)
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I've tossed some of my writing at AI and asked for suggestions to improve it.
The results always felt like my own personality was being removed from the writing.
The end result felt fake and inhuman.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Have you told it explicitly to keep your voice? Iterate. Tell it what you don't like about how it's rewriting. The feedback improves the output. ChatGPT-5.1 at least. Still not perfect, but not bad.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 16, 2025 09:50 AM (1Nv0l)
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Dash, maybe it's just a poor hack writer churning the work out?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:37 AM (uQesX)
That's possible, but all of the factors together say AI to me. The slick ads, the AI art, the over-the-top praise for a mediocre work...
There's a market for the familiar story with small differences--just look at tv. People like reading cozy mysteries and light series for a reason. I read series myself! But I like to know the author is a real person who has creative ideas that AI can't think of by itself.
With these, I can see that someone is probably making a ton of money by generating AI stories.
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Wolfus, I loved the Parker Westerns although he only wrote the first one, the author who continued the series really captured the characters and the dialog style. He also the one who wrote the screen play for the movie Appaloosa and it shows.
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I thought for sure the theme would b conspiracy theory (parapolitics) books this week.
😉
Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2025 09:53 AM (iUr9v)
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Assume that those of us who shelled out the bucks for "The Golden Thread" as discussed over the last couple of weeks will be referring to it for years to come. It's going on a shelf that holds the ancient "Riverside Shakespeare" from my college days, the Shelby Foote "Civil War" collection, and, of course, a reading edition of LOTR. These are books I may turn to at any time looking for quotes and information or just to reread sections. Also, included are our two volume OED a Roget's Thesaurus from the 1940s (before they tried to 'improve' it) and the B and N Treasury of Classic Poetry (about the best compendium of poetry I've found).
Yes, they are on the bottom shelf. There is a lot of weight in these volumes.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 09:53 AM (yTvNw)
I'm almost done with Josephus and The Jewish War. Jerusalem has fallen and been utterly destroyed. Vast amounts of prisoners are being led away to work the mines or die in the arena. Vespasian has held his triumph with the treasures of the temple brought to Rome. Only Masada holds out.
It was in this context that yesterday's Gospel reading hit me, and I realized for the first time how that would have hit home. Yes, I knew the general context, but Jesus' prediction of Jerusalem's fate was spot on down to the smallest detail. It's the cover blurb for The Jewish War.
One can readily understand how that would resonate and lead to people (especially Jews) finding this "new" faith so compelling.
The reaction against Jews across the Empire to the revolt also was something of a game-changer because the Pharisees lost their power to police the faithful, and Jews were just as despised as Christians. It was ironically the Flavians who put a damper on the pogroms because they wanted to restore order the Empire and quell all the disturbances.
88The Taylor books were reprinted some time back and should be found in any decent used bookstore. That also is true of Stout.
Posted by: clarence at November 16, 2025
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I'm not sure we have any "decent" used bookstores around here now. The ones I know of have a lot of new stuff mixed in, and the older ones are mostly in hardback and cost $$$. Very little genre fiction too -- mostly old copies of literary authors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:54 AM (wzUl9)
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2) The inability to tell a coherent, concise story. A novel should be about 125-150 pages long. I don't really have patience for a rambling, disjointed "novel" in which the author subjects us to a stream-of-conscience lasting 800-1000 pages.
3) Many modern-day authors have a pretty thin resume'. Lack of life-experience translates in nothing much interesting to say.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 16, 2025 09:31 AM (pJWtt)
There's a question about how "long" is a novel. I guess the 40k word count is still considered a novel. I have a 37k work, a 55k work, and a 90k work, and WIPs that will be about the same. Are they all novels? I'd guess so by the word count guideline. It seems the shorter ones make a pretty thin novel. Maybe fine if there were the $1.50 book racks in stores now, but almost everything I see on the shelves is about two inches thick and $15. Not many people would pay that kind of money for a 150 page book.
Thin resume means "write what you know" as a hard and fast rule? But if you don't, does that mean you can't write? Do you think research can take the place of not doing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:54 AM (uQesX)
AbeBooks advanced search shows several copies of the Popular Library Haunting of Hill House at prices that aren't too far into the stratosphere. Might be worth querying the sellers.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 09:54 AM (q3u5l)
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I think it needs said that a whole lot of our perception of ai comes from our incredibly powerful ability to anthropomorphize things. It is a necessary ability for a social creature to divine meaning from things to help us to communicate with other alien, perhaps exceedingly stupid people.
So when you think an ai, which is just a formulaic amalgamation of other people’s creativity, posses this or that trait, remember your whole brain is wired to think that way. Your brain desperately wants there to be another consciousness there.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 09:56 AM (3uBP9)
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It's funny -- the few times I've used AI writing is when I wanted to generate some boilerplate-sounding text. For a roleplaying game I run I've used AI to generate news reports, simply because otherwise the players may notice that all the news services sound like me.
I've TRIED to use it to generate reports, but it's terrible and I wind up having to rewrite the damned thing to such an extent it is vastly easier to just write it myself from scratch.
The Wife uses AI to generate letters of recommendation, which seems fitting. Nobody cares about them, nobody reads them, so it makes sense if nobody writes them either.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 09:56 AM (78a2H)
93Wolfus, I loved the Parker Westerns although he only wrote the first one, the author who continued the series really captured the characters and the dialog style. He also the one who wrote the screen play for the movie Appaloosa and it shows.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 16, 2025
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The first four (starting with Appaloosa) were by Parker himself, unless he was contracting those out to ghostwriters before his death. The ones labeled "Robert B. Parker's (Title)" are by the continuation authors, just as with the Spenser continuations. (I wonder why no one has ever written continuations for the Sunny Randall series? Or have they?)
The film of Appaloosa is so well done, I picture Cole and Hitch looking like Ed Harris and Viggo Mortenson now.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:57 AM (wzUl9)
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I finished Enemies at the Gate and it was very good but it is still going back to the used bookstore. It was too anecdotal, I guess. I loved Ian Toll's pacific war trilogy and that found a home on my bookshelves but as much as I liked it I can't imagine rereading Enemies. Plus it's Nazis vs. Commies so there are no good guys in the book. I started Roald Dahl's Going Solo (recommended on the thread IIRC) and it is excellent He's just joined the RAF and is off on his first posting. Looking forward to hearing about his war.
Posted by: who knew at November 16, 2025 09:57 AM (+ViXu)
Your mention of the bottom shelf makes me think of a problem I have at the used-book store. Specifically, the lower shelves. When I kneel to check those titles, my knees complain.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:58 AM (p/isN)
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You know why else men are horrible? Mankeeping.
https://is.gd/TTmuvr
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 09:33 AM (L/fGl)
This is the result of faggotizing men. Your own fault, "ladies."*
* No offense intended to the 'ettes. Ah, Fock! I just did it myself.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:58 AM (uQesX)
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I'm going to have to re-read Suetonius, but Vespasian seems like one of the most normal of all the emperors. He was basically pushed into taking over because the Army couldn't handle any more inept emperors. He was apolitical, ruthlessly competent, and his troops deeply respected him. The Danube legions seconded his nomination not only because they had a rivalry with the Rhine garrisons, but the Third Legion had recently rotated in from the East, and knew Vespasian. It's legate led the movement to back him (and was rewarded handsomely).
The aftermath is also interesting, because you again see the Roman Army at its peak. The instability in Rome leads to various revolts and invasions, and once he takes charge, Vespasian dispatches seasoned, no-nonsense commanders to sort thing out, which they do without any drama.
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>>> Your mention of the bottom shelf makes me think of a problem I have at the used-book store. Specifically, the lower shelves. When I kneel to check those titles, my knees complain.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 09:58 AM (p/isN)
I just have a sit. I have to do this at work too with our report cabinets.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 16, 2025 10:00 AM (3uBP9)
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I would wear those pants.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 16, 2025 09:34 AM (tRYqg)
Book status update?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:00 AM (uQesX)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 16, 2025 10:00 AM (bXbFr)
102Thin resume means "write what you know" as a hard and fast rule? But if you don't, does that mean you can't write? Do you think research can take the place of not doing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025
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I'm reminded of Dean Koontz's dictum: "Write what you know -- or what you are prepared to learn about." I would love to write a new detective story about James M. Cain's Keyes, the lifelong insurance claims man, who appeared in Double Indemnity and was so well embodied by Edward G. Robinson in the film. But I don't know much about the insurance game and am not sure I can learn enough.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:00 AM (wzUl9)
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I was reading about Dior and Claire McCardell and the menus for dinners given by the Duke and Duchess of Windsor!
Posted by: Wenda at November 16, 2025 09:36 AM (Q8mju)
That's "Duck and Dooches."
Posted by: Blooper Reel at November 16, 2025 10:02 AM (uQesX)
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For years now I've told my students, "It's not 'write what you know' but 'know what you write.'"
"Write what you know" produces endless stories about insecure young women in creative writing degree programs, or middle-aged literary men contemplating adultery.
"Know what you write" means do the research. Immerse yourself, go down rabbit-holes, and above all seek out people to talk to. This is where the jackass "sensitivity readers" kind of have something approaching a point -- if you're a white middle class woman in Vermont writing about young black men in Chicago, maybe you should actually go to Chicago, talk with some black men who live there, etc.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 10:03 AM (78a2H)
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Vespasian seems also to have had a sense of humor. He was known for watching the sesterces (necessary, after Nero's extravagances). At a play where he was in the audience, a corpse is wheeled out and sits up. The corpse is made up to look like Vespasian, and inquires, "How much is this funeral costing the Roman people?"
"Twenty thousand sesterces, Sire."
"All right, make it ten and throw me in the Tiber."
Vespasian thought it hilarious too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:04 AM (wzUl9)
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I've been sticking to light, fluffy books that are easy to read and distracting. I've been doing more audio books.
I listened to J.K. Rawlings Striker book, the Hallmarked Man. Talk about bang for your buck, it was over 30 hours long. Not bad, although one of the main characters, Robin, has some serious issues. She does finally seek help though.
I'm also trying the Thursday Murder Club books on audio. Something about the narrators with English accents if very engaging.
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“ Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Matthew 27:19-30
Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2025 10:05 AM (31N8p)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 16, 2025 10:06 AM (JSt/A)
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Finished reading "Zagor: the Northwest Passage," an Italian-produced comic book about a pulp-action-hero who lives in the early-1800's frontier. In this adventure, our hero hears about an old friend of his who was on a ship looking for the fabled northwest passage, (pulp-heroes all seem to have dozens of 'old friends') but the ship has gotten stuck in the ice. For a second year in a row. Our hero signs on to another ship, which is sailing up to re-supply/rescue it. After some initial bit of sailing, the rescue naturally devolves into betrayals, fisticuffs, and gunplay. It is a comic book, after all.
I grew up on books/movies about dog-sleds, so I've internalized a lot of tropes about winter travel on land. But sailing in the arctic is a whole different beast. (And that's assuming that this comic book is an accurate portrayal.) Manually pushing small pieces of ice way from the ship, using dynamite to break the ice in front of a ship...Getting ice-locked entirely and spending an entire winter trapped. Having the supplies to survive that, and keeping the ice from destroying the ship in the mean time...I dunno. The whole setting is still a little mind-blowing.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:07 AM (Lhaco)
110 "Write what you know" produces endless stories about insecure young women in creative writing degree programs, or middle-aged literary men contemplating adultery. . . .
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025
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Exactly. Not fertile ground for compelling stories with real suspense. (And "suspense" doesn't have to mean danger, though I love it when it does. It could simply mean, "What is our protagonist going to do about this problem?")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:07 AM (wzUl9)
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I have and read Enemy at the Gates, reading any historical to me is fine.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 10:07 AM (+qU29)
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I love Chesterton's "Ballad of the White Horse". The pacing and rhymes of the ballad form is intoxicating but doesn't get in the way of the story. It is about Alfred the Great, facing overwhelming odds against heathen invaders, rallies through his faith to defeat them. It is an account of faith and perseverance through uncertainty.
Given that Tolkien wanted to create a mythology for Britain, I wonder if the Ballad of the White Horse was an influence. The situation with Aragorn and the struggle against Sauron's evil seems to echo the story of Alfred.
Yes, I am given to such nerdy thoughts.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 10:07 AM (yTvNw)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:08 AM (u82oZ)
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That may be the biggest danger of AI -- the normalization of mediocrity as "quality work."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 16, 2025 09:40 AM (IBQGV)
I'm reminded of something I read decades ago about Caesar's writing and others like Cicero. They are considered the pinnacle of Latin writers, and we all think everyone was, but a review of lesser writers shows they wrote execrable Latin. Same as it ever was, I guess.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:08 AM (uQesX)
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AI generated "descriptions" have infested gunbroker listings like a plague. Paragraph after paragraph of verbose drivel flowing with adjectives.
Dude, it's an H&R topbreak .32 - one of millions - with half the finish gone, a corroded bore., and cracked grips. It's not a "highly collectable iconic example of Early Industrial Age genius that will enhance even the most discerning collection".
Some kid convinced Grandpa to get-with-it and use AI for his listings of crappy guns.
Posted by: retropox at November 16, 2025 10:08 AM (z5Cuf)
116AbeBooks advanced search shows several copies of the Popular Library Haunting of Hill House at prices that aren't too far into the stratosphere. Might be worth querying the sellers.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025
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I'll look!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:09 AM (wzUl9)
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Donald Hamilton related in "Cruises With Kathleen" -- that was his boat -- how he spent a few days aboard an oil tanker as part of his research for a book. I think the result was "The Mona Intercept." Which I want to read someday.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 16, 2025 10:09 AM (p/isN)
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Thin resume means "write what you know" as a hard and fast rule? But if you don't, does that mean you can't write? Do you think research can take the place of not doing?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 09:54 AM (uQesX)
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Yes. You always write what you know. It is painfully apparent when someone breaks that rules.
However, one can know things in two ways. One can experience them directly or through meticulous research.
Even so, it is important to have enough experience to give your research context. It is no accident that many of the iconic books about wars (for example) were written by correspondents who - if not in combat - were surrounded by participants and therefore understood military culture.
People also used to live more varied lives and necessarily required more life skills. How many people change tires today? Or even check their own oil? I'm no car guy, but I drove an 1980s jalopy and had to check the oil weekly, carried a wire hanger for when (not if) the muffler fell off.
And of course changing a tire with a scissor jack. Now you just whip out your cell phone and wait. That's why all old books seem to have an advantage. Life was just harder.
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My reading this week has been an odd book, _The Book of Eibon_, edited by Robert Price. Lovecraft fans will recognize the title as the name of one of the ancient texts of forbidden lore in the Cthulhu Mythos. This book is published by Chaosium, the people who created the Cthulhu roleplaying game.
It's mostly a collection of stories by Clark Ashton Smith with some Smith pastiches by Lin Carter and a few other people, all set in Smith's legendary ancient Hyperborea.
So far so good. The problem is the editor. Robert Price is an ex-minister and aggressive atheist. This means his intro to EVERY DAMNED STORY goes into how "this story contradicts details in other Hyperborean stories but that's okay because this is a bunch of different writers looking at the same material -- and you know what else works that way? The BIBLE! Because it was all made up! Suck it, Jesus-freaks!"
Or words to that effect, anyway. One grows weary after the second or third iteration.
There's also a large useless section of "ancient hyperborean rituals" and hand-drawn mystic sigils which are just a bunch of literal gibberish. I don't know why it's all in the book except to pad out the page count.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 10:10 AM (78a2H)
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I ordered a copy of "I've Got This" mentioned in the post. Besides sounding like a fun read for anyone, we have a nephew of the right age for it and one who will be there in a year or so. Could be some gifts in the near future.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 10:11 AM (yTvNw)
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Wolfus, I'm pretty sure I read the whole series but it was a while ago. I know I was not disappointed in the Knott books and he did write,the screenplay for Appaloosa which is one of the best adaptations of a book I have ever seen. The casting was brilliant.
I am currently reading an Ace Atkinson Slenser novel and still have mixed feelings about how true he is to the Spenser character. Hawk is still missing so that may be part of my disappointment.
124I'm reminded of something I read decades ago about Caesar's writing and others like Cicero. They are considered the pinnacle of Latin writers, and we all think everyone was, but a review of lesser writers shows they wrote execrable Latin. Same as it ever was, I guess.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025
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I studied Spanish in HS and college for six years. (Still can't compose sentences, but I can read a lot of it.) I always wondered why some pieces for translation were easy and some so hard. When I got to short stories in my last year, the difference was even sharper. Just as in English, some writers are better, or clearer, than others.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:14 AM (wzUl9)
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With these, I can see that someone is probably making a ton of money by generating AI stories.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 16, 2025 09:50 AM (h7ZuX)
I believe that's true.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:14 AM (uQesX)
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I finished Enemies at the Gate and it was very good but it is still going back to the used bookstore. It was too anecdotal, I guess.
Posted by: who knew at November 16, 2025 09:57 AM (+ViXu)
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I liked it a lot, even though the subject matter was quite dark. What it did was give a feel for what the survivors went through.
Only the Russians would set up a brothel a few yards from the front line.
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4 I'm currently reading The Fortress of Solitude, a novel by Jonathan Lethem. The title is intentional, though it's not a Superman story.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:04 AM (wzUl9)
Interesting timing/coincidence. I just bought two custom-bound hardcover Superman books off of ebay. (not new printings, but the original comic books re-bound into an actual book) The first one includes books from the late 80's and, wow, these are so much better than some of the other 'classic' superhero comics I've read from the 70's. The stories (so far) are still single-issue stories, and kinda cheesy, but not nearly is cringey or contrived. I don't know the writing style had evolved over that time, or if the writer of these books is just that much better. The writer is John Byrne, so him being noticeably better is a distinct possibility.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:14 AM (Lhaco)
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MS NOW Only Goes 4.5 Hours Before Making First Nazi Analogy
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 10:15 AM (L/fGl)
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I should have grabbed a book for this flight home! Packed flight for a Sunday Morning.
Posted by: Piper at November 16, 2025 10:15 AM (94jB9)
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Not much reading this week. Got "Chaos In LAGrangia" by Mack Reynolds (1984) at a library book sale. It's almost worth the fiddy cents I paid. I found out it's third in a series. Who is trying to kill the Director of the L-5 space colony? Are they trying to sow discord among the L-5ers and the Belter colonies?
Meh. Kinda interesting stuff about each of the colonies and their ethnic/ideological foundations, but the writing is basic and it feels dated. But still I turn the pages, so it's not too bad.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 10:16 AM (kpS4V)
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I studied Spanish in HS and college for six years. (Still can't compose sentences, but I can read a lot of it.) I always wondered why some pieces for translation were easy and some so hard. When I got to short stories in my last year, the difference was even sharper. Just as in English, some writers are better, or clearer, than others.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:14 AM (wzUl9)
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In the translator's notes to m copy of St. Augustine's Confessions, there is a footnote remarking that a particular passage is so well written, combining rhyme and meter in the original Latin that is impossible for English to reflect its artistic merit.
That's another thing that is being lost - quality prose styling. It's not just blurting out words on a page, it is making them into something beyond the sum of information contained. The topics of Graham Greene's books do not always interest me, but the man can write.
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117 ... "Donald Hamilton related in "Cruises With Kathleen" -- that was his boat -- how he spent a few days aboard an oil tanker as part of his research for a book. I think the result was "The Mona Intercept." Which I want to read someday."
I have just about every book Hamilton wrote including his westerns which are terrific. You can find used paperbacks of The Mona Intercept for a few bucks and it's worth it. It's basically a Matt Helm story with different characters and thoroughly enjoyable for any Hamilton fan.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 10:19 AM (yTvNw)
133AbeBooks is great. Highly recommended.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 16, 2025
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On there, the movie tie-in editions of Hill House, w/ Claire Bloom and Julie Harris on the cover, are $30. Not sure I want to spring for that. There are 1984 editions with odd Art Deco-looking cover art for $5 to $8, though.
I've bought a lot of things from AB and have never regretted it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:19 AM (wzUl9)
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I'm reminded of something I read decades ago about Caesar's writing and others like Cicero. They are considered the pinnacle of Latin writers, and we all think everyone was, but a review of lesser writers shows they wrote execrable Latin. Same as it ever was, I guess.
Posted by: OrangeEnt
Petronius' Satyricon is considered worthy but, as far as I can tell, it's pure garbage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 10:19 AM (L/fGl)
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I should add that I also put in six years studying a language in high school and college (German), and I have papers written in my own hand that I cannot read.
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Just saw yesterday somewhere, in Stalingrad a Russian soldier life expecting was 24 hours, a officer 3 days
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 10:20 AM (+qU29)
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Kafka in the original German was fun.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 10:20 AM (ZOv7s)
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Borges in the original Spanish induced hallucinations.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 10:22 AM (A2ajU)
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Tolkien and Matt Helm references? Check! This Book Thread has now met the standards, anything past this point is for extra credit.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 10:22 AM (zZSxi)
140 The first one includes books from the late 80's and, wow, these are so much better than some of the other 'classic' superhero comics I've read from the 70's. The stories (so far) are still single-issue stories, and kinda cheesy, but not nearly is cringey or contrived. I don't know the writing style had evolved over that time, or if the writer of these books is just that much better. The writer is John Byrne, so him being noticeably better is a distinct possibility.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025
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At B & N this week, I chanced across a special anthology edition of three 1998 to 2008 Superman comic stories that James Gunn has said inspired the look and feel, and spirit, of his 2025 movie. The middle one seemed to be about young Clark growing up with the Kents, and looked extremely good. I intend to go back, finish reading it over a coffee, and if it is compelling I'll buy the special edition.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:22 AM (wzUl9)
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Because I'm weak, I bought another stack of comic books this past week. Not graphic novels, actual staple-bound monthly comics. I bought them purely because they are vaguely sword-and-sorcery themed. I don't expect great things, just well intentioned aimed-for-kids mediocrity. Most of the covers were fairly generic, just dramatic actiony scenes, but one of them did stand out:
https://tinyurl.com/dyp4urbv
Maximize the image at the link for full effect. I would buy a novel with that cover! That image is more 'sword and sorcery' than most of the covers in the genre published today. If the actual story lives up to half the promise of that cover, it will have been money well-spent.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:24 AM (Lhaco)
142Got "Chaos In LAGrangia" by Mack Reynolds (1984) at a library book sale. It's almost worth the fiddy cents I paid. I found out it's third in a series. Who is trying to kill the Director of the L-5 space colony? Are they trying to sow discord among the L-5ers and the Belter colonies?
Meh. Kinda interesting stuff about each of the colonies and their ethnic/ideological foundations, but the writing is basic and it feels dated. But still I turn the pages, so it's not too bad.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025
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Reynolds was one of John Campbell's standby authors during the Astounding/Analog days. He was never in the first rank, no Heinlein or Sturgeon or Asimov, but apparently he produced readable magazine fiction.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:24 AM (wzUl9)
I think the Science Fiction Writers of America category listings still show novel-length as 40K words and up. And yeah, you'd probably have a hard time charging $25 and over for a book of 42K now that so many books seem to be sold by the pound.
When I was starting to buy sf paperbacks, there were still a lot of Ace Doubles on the racks (most in the 40K range) and the 50 cent books tended to run 45K to 60K words. I devoured that stuff from the age of 12 until my mid-20s. When I'm writing now I find that the maximum length I work at is around 40-50K.
Go figure.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 10:26 AM (q3u5l)
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I suspect AI stories don’t have the same flow /cadence that a human written story has.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:26 AM (EYmYM)
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I would love to write a new detective story about James M. Cain's Keyes, the lifelong insurance claims man, who appeared in Double Indemnity and was so well embodied by Edward G. Robinson in the film. But I don't know much about the insurance game and am not sure I can learn enough.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:00 AM (wzUl9)
I would guess it depends how deep you need to go to make it seem real enough. You can write cowboy stories because we have a century of work to study, and you can write space stories because of how much there is out there to learn from. But an insurance adjuster? You'd probably need to have the background to do a character justice.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:26 AM (uQesX)
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I have and read Enemy at the Gates, reading any historical to me is fine.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 10:07 AM (+qU29)
Same. I recently finished Killers of the Flower Moon. Didn't see the movie, and after reading the book, I don't feel like I need to. Currently reading Lincoln's Spies: Their Secret War to Save a Nation.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 16, 2025 10:28 AM (nbLIj)
147Borges in the original Spanish induced hallucinations.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025
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I have tried to read "The Garden of Forking Paths" (in English) more than once, since finding it was an award winner in the late '40s in one of the Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine competitions. There's a crime element in there somewhere, I guess, but it's lost on me.
It always amuses me that Faulkner's short story "An Error in Chemistry" came in second in its year to a Manly Wade Wellman story. Recently I've read that Faulkner was exasperated at not being Number One that year. Heh, heh, heh. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:28 AM (wzUl9)
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I would love to write a new detective story about James M. Cain's Keyes, the lifelong insurance claims man, who appeared in Double Indemnity and was so well embodied by Edward G. Robinson in the film. But I don't know much about the insurance game and am not sure I can learn enough.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:00 AM (wzUl9)
The insurance claims profession is employment hell. The ones portrayed in movies are really just investigators who hand off their investigation to claims adjusters.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:30 AM (EYmYM)
I have a number of old 19th Century books with that vivid green in the cover. Good thing I disciplined myself to not snack on the covers!
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 10:30 AM (kpS4V)
150I think the Science Fiction Writers of America category listings still show novel-length as 40K words and up. And yeah, you'd probably have a hard time charging $25 and over for a book of 42K now that so many books seem to be sold by the pound.
When I was starting to buy sf paperbacks, there were still a lot of Ace Doubles on the racks (most in the 40K range) and the 50 cent books tended to run 45K to 60K words. I devoured that stuff from the age of 12 until my mid-20s. When I'm writing now I find that the maximum length I work at is around 40-50K.
Go figure.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025
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I've never tried to estimate them, but the wordage of the Man From U.N.C.L.E. tie-in novels from Ace (1965 to 1970) probably are 40-45K words at most.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:31 AM (wzUl9)
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Some english translations are better than the original although i havent tried that with borges
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 16, 2025 10:31 AM (bXbFr)
152
Morning, all. The oven is preheating to 450 for a sourdough loaf to bake, and the breeze is stiff and straight out of the west. A guy in a kayak is all bundled up and is fishing 40 yards off the beach, and the wind is blowing him at trolling speed.
I can recommend Grisham's "Camino Winds," a murder mystery, the dastardly act committed right when a cat 4 hurricane does to Camino island and its beach town, what Ian did to Ft Myers Beach a few years ago. Grisham gives fictitious names to Amelia island and Fernandina Beach, but the Florida and Georgia all around has its place names all unchanged.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 16, 2025 10:31 AM (zeLd4)
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I read so little current fiction, almost none, and avoid current events/culture/politics. So I don't give AI much thought personally. But I am disturbed at how it is touted as some wonder technology and used in place of human endeavor.
The more it is extolled, the more I treasure my fountain pens, art supplies and hardcover books.
Posted by: JTB at November 16, 2025 10:31 AM (yTvNw)
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Recognized Michael Moorcock from his work with Hawkwind and Bob Calvert. I will now check out his writings.
Posted by: Lars at November 16, 2025 10:32 AM (kJH1Z)
155I would guess it depends how deep you need to go to make it seem real enough. You can write cowboy stories because we have a century of work to study, and you can write space stories because of how much there is out there to learn from. But an insurance adjuster? You'd probably need to have the background to do a character justice.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025
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For a short story, if I knew someone like Keyes, a long-termer in the insurance industry, I could question him for memorable cases he'd encountered. But I don't.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:33 AM (wzUl9)
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Posted by: M. Gaga at November 16, 2025 10:31 AM (zeLd4)
Sounds like Key Largo
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:33 AM (EYmYM)
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I think Sturgeon's story "Bianca's Hands" beat out a Graham Greene in some contest. And if memory serves, Heinlein wrote his first short story for a contest, realized he could get more $$$ if it sold to Astounding and tried it there instead.
Research -- I seem to recall an anecdote about a small hotel manager who met John D. MacDonald once. He didn't seem to have learned a lot about MacDonald, but MacDonald learned a lot about small hotel management.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 10:34 AM (q3u5l)
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Something about the narrators with English accents if very engaging.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 16, 2025 10:05 AM (VCgbV)
Mick Herron's Slough House series is good for that.
I'm particularly fond of listening to Irish. My favorites are Adrian McKinty books, read by Gerard Doyle, and the Dublin Murder series by Tana French. After a few of those, I start talking in Irish colloquialisms without realizing it!
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Reread With Wings Like Eagles: The Untold History of the Battle of Britain by Michael Korda.
What makes this book compelling is it gathers hidden data to explain how and why England won. Half the book sets the stage, and answers how and why England won, by a narrow margin. Nazi errors helped, of course.
The main focus is a strategic, mostly top-down narrative on how Air Chief Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding fought for 4 years to get the backwater Fighter Command ready to defend England. He had to overcome firm opposition from the Royal Air Force staff, Churchill and his wacky scientific advisor, and the entire government establishment. Tizard, from a previous book recommendation, was not mentioned.
Air Chief Marshal Dowding saved England from Prime Minister Winston Churchill by keeping fighters in England and not France. His strategy in the battle was masterful.
His treatment by Churchill after winning was quite shabby.
If this interests you, I highly recommend this book.
Lucid, yet hits the right high notes.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:36 AM (u82oZ)
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1) Infected with "presentism" in which they feel smugly superior to the previous generations, rather than acknowledge that they stand on the shoulders of giants.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 16, 2025 09:31 AM (pJWtt)
That's the worst of traits, in my view. Another aspect of that is when writers think tropes only exist to be subverted, regardless of whether or not subversion makes sense in the story.
On anther site, I just had brief argument about a story about an evil/not-evil witch. The story starts with a someone who 'swallowed his own eyeballs' after confronting the witch in her lair. But then the story presents the witch as being unfairly persecuted by superstitious townsfolk, implying they were baselessly accusing her of things that never happened. Sure, the witch has absolutely no regard for the lives of other people, has mastered spells that do great harm, and we see her using them without a second thought...but only after she has been wronged. The author wants the audience are to assume she has never done anything wrong before, and is completely innocent. Right. That's just not believable given the set-up and setting...
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:36 AM (Lhaco)
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For a short story, if I knew someone like Keyes, a long-termer in the insurance industry, I could question him for memorable cases he'd encountered. But I don't.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:33 AM (wzUl9)
All the death claims I handled were legitimate accidents but I guess you could easily turn them into a murder conspiracy.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:36 AM (EYmYM)
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Petronius' Satyricon is considered worthy but, as far as I can tell, it's pure garbage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 10:19 AM (L/fGl)
Only read it in translation. Can't do much Latining anymore without a dictionary and grammar book.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:38 AM (uQesX)
"I can make it from my reading chair to my lavatory."
Who's a hoarder!! Not me!
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 10:39 AM (kpS4V)
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Tolkien and Matt Helm references? Check! This Book Thread has now met the standards, anything past this point is for extra credit.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 10:22 AM (zZSxi)
Samuel T. Cogley loved books!
(Star Trek reference added)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:41 AM (uQesX)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2025 10:42 AM (2WIwB)
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The author wants the audience are to assume she has never done anything wrong before, and is completely innocent. Right. That's just not believable given the set-up and setting...
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:36 AM (Lhaco)
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There is a modern morality that holds that once wronged, you are entitled to infinite acts of revenge, none of which is your fault.
I notice that this is always told from the perspective of the person tormenting everyone else, never the victims who stumble into this nightmare.
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If you're going to try Borges in English look for the collections Ficciones (Modern Library did a nice hardcover a while back) and A Personal Anthology. Any of the Dutton books with translations done by Norman Thomas di Giovanni in collaboration with Borges are good. The Penguin volumes done largely by Andrew Hurley just didn't do it for me the way the di Giovannis did; YMMV.
Borges' widow had the di Giovannis pulled because she didn't like the financial arrangement Borges had with his translator (a 50-50 split) as I recall it. So you have to find them used or through the library. But the di Giovannis are the ones to look for. Three in particular: The Aleph and Other Stories, 1933-1969; The Book of Sand; Doctor Brodie's Report. Some of Borges' last work didn't get the di Giovanni treatment, though; the Penguin paperback Shakespeare's Memory has some of these -- not as readable as the di Giovanni work, but not bad.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 10:44 AM (q3u5l)
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Doing a lot of re-reading. Currently finishing The Legend of Bagger Vance. Just as great as the first time I read it. Fully immersed in the story.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:44 AM (EYmYM)
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Maximize the image at the link for full effect. I would buy a novel with that cover! That image is more 'sword and sorcery' than most of the covers in the genre published today. If the actual story lives up to half the promise of that cover, it will have been money well-spent.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:24 AM (Lhaco)
Thought bubble:
Hmm. Which one? The demure one, or the wild one. Both?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:44 AM (uQesX)
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Mick Herron's Slough House series is good for that.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
Have you watched AppleTV's Slough House series, " Slow Horses"? Gary Oldman is wonderful as Jackson Lamb.
Posted by: Tuna at November 16, 2025 10:44 AM (lJ0H4)
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Read Sky Walking, An Astronaut's Memoir by Tom Jones.
It tells of his 4 different Space Shuttle flights and the incredible amount of effort needed to succeed. He helped build the International Space Station. Astronauts are amazing individuals.
I like stories of space and our achievements, but this did not grab me. Meh.
Carrying the Fire by Michael Collins is still the gold standard of books on NASA and space.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:44 AM (u82oZ)
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You can only have villainous bigoted witch hunters if witches aren't real. The whole tragedy of real-world witch hunts was that the victims (as far as we know) weren't witches.
Once you throw real witches into the mix, the witch hunters become heroic underdogs, battling supernatural powers with nothing but faith, fire, and steel.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 10:45 AM (78a2H)
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Know what you write" means do the research. Immerse yourself, go down rabbit-holes, and above all seek out people to talk to. This is where the jackass "sensitivity readers" kind of have something approaching a point -- if you're a white middle class woman in Vermont writing about young black men in Chicago, maybe you should actually go to Chicago, talk with some black men who live there, etc.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 10:03 AM (78a2H)
Good idea. Hitch along on a drive-by. Wing a few of those street corner thugs. Really get the feel of it.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2025 10:45 AM (g8Ew8)
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I don't recall reading Borges in English but I cannot imagine he translates too well.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 16, 2025 10:46 AM (IC093)
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I do a lot of stuff with AI for marketing purposes - creating custom GPTs that can "speak" in my voice and my clients' voices. The gap between generically generated AI content and content produced from a system engineered to write in a specific style can be light years apart. I've seen AI created sales copy that's simply incredible - and that's tough to deal with as a copywriter who's spent decades on the craft. But it's reality. Now I do believe there IS a difference between what an algorithm can produce and the kind of insane creativity that only emerges from living, interacting cells who have suffered, bled, prayed, dreamt, loved and lost... but... I totally disagree that all AI can produce is soul-less crap. I've seen plenty of evidence to the contrary.
Posted by: tarzanturk at November 16, 2025 10:46 AM (adfJX)
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Being a Teddyphile, there's a new book out that got good reviews: "To Rescue the American Spirit: Teddy Roosevelt and the Birth of a Superpower" by....Bret Baier (I know, I know). It's now in my library queue.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 10:47 AM (kpS4V)
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You can only have villainous bigoted witch hunters if witches aren't real. The whole tragedy of real-world witch hunts was that the victims (as far as we know) weren't witches.
Once you throw real witches into the mix, the witch hunters become heroic underdogs, battling supernatural powers with nothing but faith, fire, and steel.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 10:45 AM (78a2H)
I’m sure there were those that practiced the black arts as there has throughout history. It’s possible there may have been such a person in the colony but mob mentality took over whether there was one or not .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:48 AM (EYmYM)
178I think Sturgeon's story "Bianca's Hands" beat out a Graham Greene in some contest. And if memory serves, Heinlein wrote his first short story for a contest, realized he could get more $$$ if it sold to Astounding and tried it there instead.
Research -- I seem to recall an anecdote about a small hotel manager who met John D. MacDonald once. He didn't seem to have learned a lot about MacDonald, but MacDonald learned a lot about small hotel management.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025
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If Greene was trying to write SF or fantasy like Sturgeon, it's not too surprising he came in second in a contest that emphasized that genre. A lot of times a literary author gets some of the tropes correct when he tries a genre -- but not all of the right ones.
As for John D., well, he came from a business background and already knew a lot about that world. Again, a case of "what you know or are prepared to learn about."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:48 AM (wzUl9)
Labyrinths is another one of the Borges collections to go with, is also still available, and it's that one that Modern Library did in hardcover some years back. That one and A Personal Anthology are probably the most representative of Borges' work, including stories, essays, and poems.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 10:48 AM (q3u5l)
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Have you watched AppleTV's Slough House series, " Slow Horses"? Gary Oldman is wonderful as Jackson Lamb.
Posted by: Tuna at November 16, 2025 10:44 AM (lJ0H4)
I haven't, because I rarely watch anything on tv on my own initiative, but I'll bet Oldman is great in that. Will have to ask Mr. Dmlw! if he'd like to watch that some time.
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What makes this book compelling is it gathers hidden data to explain how and why England won. Half the book sets the stage, and answers how and why England won, by a narrow margin. Nazi errors helped, of course.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:36 AM (u82oZ)
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The Battle of Britain is fascinating, but what is often lost is the larger strategic picture. If the RAF losses became unsustainable, Fighter Command could have simply ceded temporary control of the southernmost airspace, and remained safely out of German fighter aircraft while building up a reserve to contest invasion.
This was the scenario for the famous wargame that was staffed by junior officers an umpired by surviving participants 30 years after the fact. The unanimous verdict was that the Germans could probably get men ashore, but they would have been incapable of sustaining them to to British maritime dominance.
It is important to recognize that calculations of the difficulty of a cross-channel invasion in 1940 are greatly at odds with the subsequent reality discovered at Dieppe and later Normandy.
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you want to see plenty of AI generated writing, just go to yahoo finance and have a gander at all of the business news stories. The stories and even the headlines are nearly identical, with only the ticker symbols changed.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at
Yahoo sports can match finance ai for ai.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 16, 2025 10:49 AM (sl73Y)
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I've never tried to estimate them, but the wordage of the Man From U.N.C.L.E. tie-in novels from Ace (1965 to 1970) probably are 40-45K words at most.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:31 AM (wzUl9)
How many pages and what size book? That's part of my question as to how long my books will be. Considering there are a few different sizes for books, would a 40k book be better printed at paperback pocket book size?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:49 AM (uQesX)
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Slough house ix orobably closet to reality than mi 5
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 16, 2025 10:50 AM (bXbFr)
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Germany not understanding the importance of the British radar system was the key to Britain ‘winning’ the Battle of Britain’ .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:50 AM (EYmYM)
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I’m sure there were those that practiced the black arts as there has throughout history. It’s possible there may have been such a person in the colony but mob mentality took over whether there was one or not .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:48 AM (EYmYM)
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They want to have it both ways. "No, witches were just a social stigma, not real!"
Mack Reynolds wrote dependable pot-boilers. I have a number of his stories. His life history made him quite liberal, but he was not woke. At times, he was droll.
IMHO, his best were the Section G stories about a secret police doing good for the human diaspora.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:51 AM (u82oZ)
188Most of the covers were fairly generic, just dramatic actiony scenes, but one of them did stand out:
https://tinyurl.com/dyp4urbv
Maximize the image at the link for full effect. I would buy a novel with that cover! That image is more 'sword and sorcery' than most of the covers in the genre published today. If the actual story lives up to half the promise of that cover, it will have been money well-spent.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025
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Looks like the art for the 1980s X-Men comics written by Chris Claremont and drawn by John Byrne!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:52 AM (wzUl9)
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184 Slough house ix orobably closet to reality than mi 5
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 16, 2025 10:50 AM (bXbFr)
Ha, probably is. Lots of human error and incompetence mixed in with the successful work. Something you rarely see in Bond or Mission Impossible stories and the like.
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And now, a musical interlude. Maduro sings Imagine!
https://is.gd/FpZiz4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)
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Germany not understanding the importance of the British radar system was the key to Britain ‘winning’ the Battle of Britain’ .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:50 AM (EYmYM)
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The core problem was British strategic depth and the German solution was to goad the Brits into offering its airpower up for destruction.
The Brits were willing to do this because the loss rates appeared to be heavily in their favor (though as much as originally believed). Ultimately, if you look at the bomb loads, endurance, etc., the Germans were really just making pin-prick attacks compared with the Allied onslaught that would start a couple of years later.
Everyone overestimated the effectiveness of strategic bombing.
Plus the German Intel effort was incredibly stupid. They did not know what targets to hit. The information was easy to find, but they made no effort to get it right. The Nazis make the CIA *spit* look like geniuses.
In addition, Nazi top leadership failed the German aircrews.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:54 AM (u82oZ)
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Looks like the art for the 1980s X-Men comics written by Chris Claremont and drawn by John Byrne!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:52 AM (wzUl9)
If you want cover art for your book like this ask a tattoo artist to do it for you. They are the underrated artists of our time. ( the top ones of course) .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 10:55 AM (EYmYM)
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It's been fun, but I must now leave the thread in order to devote my attention to an HOA meeting. Ug. At least they do these via Zoom, so I can least pace around my home in frustration/impatience.
Have a great thread, everyone!
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:55 AM (Lhaco)
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I notice that this is always told from the perspective of the person tormenting everyone else, never the victims who stumble into this nightmare.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 10:43 AM (ZOv7s)
Leftists.
(spit)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 10:55 AM (uQesX)
196How many pages and what size book? That's part of my question as to how long my books will be. Considering there are a few different sizes for books, would a 40k book be better printed at paperback pocket book size?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025
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The MfUs were about 158 pages, and they were the standard size of pocket or drugstore-rack paperbacks of those days, 7" x 4.5" and about one-half inch thick. My Signet James Bonds are exactly the same dimensions and page length. But they are a little more closely printed than the Ace paperbacks, so maybe closer to 60K words?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:57 AM (wzUl9)
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Grabbing "I Got This" for Pookette, because it seems right up her alley. Any other YA books by Morons in this genre I should get for her birthday in January?
Posted by: pookysgirl will check back later at November 16, 2025 10:57 AM (Wt5PA)
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Looks like the art for the 1980s X-Men comics written by Chris Claremont and drawn by John Byrne!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:52 AM (wzUl9)
Okay, one last comment: I believe the art is by Ernie Colon. Was did the interiors, and most of the other covers in that stack. In any case, he really stepped up his game for that one!
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 16, 2025 10:57 AM (Lhaco)
My novel Doorways was about 44K words and when printed came to 169 pages in trade paperback size, say, one step up from the old-time mass market pbk format we grew up on.
If that helps.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 10:58 AM (q3u5l)
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Came out of the bookstore yesterday with The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings trilogy (never mind I already have them in hardcover) for me, and two Asleep At The Wheel CDs for Mrs. E.
Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 10:59 AM (i+bC1)
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Plus the German Intel effort was incredibly stupid. They did not know what targets to hit. The information was easy to find, but they made no effort to get it right. The Nazis make the CIA *spit* look like geniuses.
In addition, Nazi top leadership failed the German aircrews.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 10:54 AM (u82oZ)
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It's interesting to see what wargaming has to say on various topics. Some games basically force one to repeat history, or are built to be counterfactual so that the loser can reverse the verdict of history.
But in a lot of situations, if you simply recreate the situation based on after-the-fact knowledge, one has to put heavy thumb on the scale to keep things even. The Battle of Britain is very much like this.
You can say the Germans came closer than they should have, but I still maintain that they really could never have won. It is very similar to the US Civil War. In any decent strategic simulation, one basically has to adopt a "the Union is stupid" rule or the game ends much earlier than it historically did.
Posted by: Eromero at November 16, 2025 10:59 AM (i+bC1)
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They want to have it both ways. "No, witches were just a social stigma, not real!"
*proceeds to cast curse spell on Trump*
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
BOMBSHELL ADMISSION: In a jaw-dropping CNN interview, Lis Smith, a high-ranking 'Democratic consultant', confessed that the 34 felony charges against President Trump were not the result of legitimate legal proceedings, but part of the Democratic Party's 'resistance strategy'.
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I'm gobsmacked!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:00 AM (L/fGl)
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Most of the covers were fairly generic, just dramatic actiony scenes, but one of them did stand out:
https://tinyurl.com/dyp4urbv
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Beautiful artwork by Paris Cullins and Romeo Tanghal. I just checked my library system to see if any copies were available and was subjected to other issues with horrible modern pastel princess kiddie garbage.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 11:00 AM (kpS4V)
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I asked ChatGPT to write a story based on the premise of my novel and the AI version is a lot less interesting, so that’s reassuring I guess, like checking the ‘I Am Not A Robot’ box but more complicated. It’s not like chess where computers have left us in the dust.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at November 16, 2025 11:01 AM (aPpm9)
Type size matters too. These days I have an awfully hard time reading the old mass markets, and the print in some trade paperbacks is a strain-inducer as well. God bless my Kindle.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 11:01 AM (q3u5l)
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Eromero, one can never have enough versions/editions of Tolkien.
Fact.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 11:02 AM (kpS4V)
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They want to have it both ways. "No, witches were just a social stigma, not real!"
*proceeds to cast curse spell on Trump*
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 10:51 AM (ZOv7s)
Then they cried: It's not working!! It's like he's being protected somehow!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:02 AM (uQesX)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 10:59 AM (ZOv7s)
I disagree. If the Germans would have targeted the radar system prior to the full scale aerial attack the British Air Force would have been completely destroyed allowing for complete control of the English Channel for Germany. They definitely would have attempted a crossing . Whether that would have been successful I agree is questionable.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 11:02 AM (EYmYM)
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Speaking of the nexus between gaming and books, my kids have goaded me into joining a D&D campaign with the 2014 era books. It's not as woke is the current issue, but still pretty bad.
I've been playing the game for a long time and live in a town that hosts a major university, so I've seen quite a bit of the gaming world and I had no idea that - based on the illustrations - black women are a major fantasy gaming demographic. Not a lot of black men, though. Even the buff fighters are black women. Who knew?
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The magic in my fantasy stories is analogous to electrical power today: the underpinning of nearly everything in society, and the people who know how to manipulate it are highly thought of and generally well paid. Some practitioners are better than others, and magic is less a science than an art: You're dealing with mystical forces, including demons, which are Entities to themselves with rules hard to discern before you get yourself killed.
The common people fear and respect magicians, but they are not trying to wipe them out. That's the last thing they want.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:03 AM (wzUl9)
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Any other YA books by Morons in this genre I should get for her birthday in January?
Posted by: pookysgirl will check back later at November 16, 2025 10:57 AM (Wt5PA)
Not really this genre, but I was randomly thinking this morning of a book called Faith and the Electric Dogs, by Patrick Jennings. Story is told by the dog. Faith's parents got divorced, and she had to move to Mexico, and she doesn't know Spanish, and life is hard, and she and the dog make a rocket and go to a special island full of just dogs. This is how I remember it, anyway, from when I read it to my kids some thirty years ago. Where does the time go? We all liked it.
Wargaming, and I have done a lot of gaming, distorts how stuff really happened. People are not counters in a box, or sprites on a screen.
In history, it seems stupidity, envy, pride, and lack of learning from others are the key human conditions.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 11:06 AM (u82oZ)
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The MfUs were about 158 pages, and they were the standard size of pocket or drugstore-rack paperbacks of those days, 7" x 4.5" and about one-half inch thick. My Signet James Bonds are exactly the same dimensions and page length. But they are a little more closely printed than the Ace paperbacks, so maybe closer to 60K words?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 10:57 AM (wzUl9)
Thanks for the info. If I ever publish... and if it's self, determining the right size for a book taking into consideration the word count and what the market pricing will bear is important for which size to use.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:08 AM (uQesX)
The Royal Navy would have ended any invasion attempt. Full stop.
Plus, for all the vaunted German General Staff worship, they had no plan for invasion, no building of the needed equipment, and no doctrine.
The German Luftwaffe leader Milch had a good idea after France fell, but was ignored by the higher ups.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 11:11 AM (u82oZ)
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A few wargames try to work in the human element and personality issues affecting commanders. One GDW Civil War game had a random table the Confederate player had to use to come up with morphine-addled bad decisions for Joe Johnson to make while fighting Sherman, because no player would ever make the same choices.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 16, 2025 11:13 AM (78a2H)
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Ultimately, if you look at the bomb loads, endurance, etc., the Germans were really just making pin-prick attacks compared with the Allied onslaught that would start a couple of years later.
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I've heard it proposed that Germany lost the war when Luftwaffe General Walther Wever died in a crash in 1936. He wanted to build bigger bombers with bigger payloads and longer range but the general consensus was quantity over size. The Germans didn't have the wherewithal to bomb Britain into submission nor to disrupt the Russians as they transferred their factories behind the Urals.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
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My novel Doorways was about 44K words and when printed came to 169 pages in trade paperback size, say, one step up from the old-time mass market pbk format we grew up on.
If that helps.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 10:58 AM (q3u5l)
JSG, 5.5x8.5, or 6x9? The 37k would have to be pocket I'd guess. The others could be that size or larger? What typeface and size did you use?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:15 AM (uQesX)
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I don't think I have ever read Sturgeon's "Bianca's Hands." I know his work -- "Saucer of Loneliness," for example, and of course his Trek scripts. He was really a literary author in many ways, working in a genre that at the time was considered a ghetto of literature.
(Though Larry Niven once pointed out that the SF writers' community was less a ghetto than it was a country club!)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:16 AM (wzUl9)
** Goes to front of class. Takes chalk to blackboard and writes **
"I am NaCly Dog. I am a bookslutaholic.
Great term! I'm stealing it.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 11:17 AM (u82oZ)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 11:11 AM (u82oZ)
Without air cover they would have been sitting ducks in the English Channel.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 11:17 AM (EYmYM)
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I disagree. If the Germans would have targeted the radar system prior to the full scale aerial attack the British Air Force would have been completely destroyed allowing for complete control of the English Channel for Germany.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 11:02 AM (EYmYM)
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How? Pull the RAF back north of London and the bases are outside of fighter escort range and so deep inland that the observer corps/listening posts can track them without radar. This was in fact the plan, and it was wargamed out in the 1970s and everyone involved - British and German - agreed there was no counter to it.
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 11:18 AM (ZOv7s)
You must also agree with all the climate models too.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 11:19 AM (EYmYM)
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Modern "trade" paperbacks seem to be about 5.5" x 8", and a little over half an inch thick. A major-publisher paperback like that of Parker's Resolution, though, is about 5" x 7", and a good inch or more thick. But the text pages have fairly wide margins.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:20 AM (wzUl9)
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Thanks for all the comments. We are a smart military blog.
And Perfessor" Squirrel, thank you for your efforts to make our book addictions more socially acceptable.
Have a serene day, everyone.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 11:20 AM (u82oZ)
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Glad you've been able to retake the wheel Perfessor.
Current reading: The Coastwatchers, by Eric Feldt. Since I've spent the last year reading many of Avonmore books South Pacific & Solomons titles, the areas of this corner of WWII history now feel like familiar territory.
The Bret Baier Roosevelt book is a solid overview effort. TR lived an amazingly full life. Edmund Morris's trilogy did not quench the desire to read more about him. Multiple books appear every year so I've not felt a desire to re-read any of the previous 'definitive bios'. Instead usually pick a book more tightly focused. My first thought on starting this book was Baier trying to duplicate O'Reilly's success, but if he gets anyone reading about TR for the 1st time it's good.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at November 16, 2025 11:24 AM (KaHlS)
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I finished Flashman in the Great Game by George MacDonald Fraser, the "fifth packet of the Flashman Papers" which details Col Harry Padget Flashman's return to India in 1856 as an agent for PM Palmerston to get to the bottom of rumors of discontent among the Sepoys and determine if Russian intrigue was driving it. He manages to bed the Maharani of Jhansi, get pursued by Thuggees, witness the outbreak of the Indian Mutiny as a native cavalryman in Meerut, survived the siege and evacuation of Cawnpore, defended Gwalior, tried arrange the surrender of Jhansi, and get nearly blown from the muzzle of a cannon as a mutineer, to return in laurels and in a rage because of the printing of Thomas Hardy's book Tom Brown's School days which describes him honestly.
Flashman is a cad, a skirt chaser and a coward, who manages to survive the worst situations, and buffs up his reputation based on what he does, more than how he does it. Fraser based the character on Thomas Hardy's book. Though Flashman is honest about who he is, he is not the ideal pious and steadfast Englishman, who he derides continually. The Flashman books are heavily footnoted and historically based.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2025 11:24 AM (rbvCR)
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Germany's biggest mistake was their deadly prejudice against the Jews. If they would have just allowed them the tolerance and left them alone they would have probably developed a nuclear weapon much sooner than anyone else. They could have very well ruled most of world.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2025 11:24 AM (g8Ew8)
If I can believe my ruler, the pbk of Doorways is 5x8 inches. I used Garamond as the type face, but I don't recall the size now and if there's a place to see that particular setting in my Kindle publish account it ain't jumping out at me. If I were doing the book today, I'd make the type a little bigger.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 11:25 AM (q3u5l)
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How about this one? The Germans try a cross channel invasion in WW One. They use long range artillery, and lots of it, to blast the Royal Navy out of the water whenever it approaches the invasion fleet. Aircraft are only used for artillery spotting.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2025 11:26 AM (zZSxi)
I saved this so I can watch the AI videos later. I've been using both ChatGPT and Grok for personal projects so this should be interesting.
I like to copy and paste the results from one AI, give it to the other and let them 'fight' things out. And I argue and push back constantly against both of them. The results have been impressive. We have a nice dynamic going.
The education system would probably be so much better if it was more confrontational with every thought and idea argued.
But you don't develop nice obedient little Marxists that way.
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 11:27 AM (Sco7b)
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I just watched a video about which gun and caliber had the greatest penetrating power through a set of encyclopedias.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 16, 2025 11:30 AM (ldPhE)
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If you want a more tightly focused book on T.R., can't do better than "River of Doubt", a harrowing account of his Amazon adventure.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 11:30 AM (kpS4V)
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Germany's biggest mistake was their deadly prejudice against the Jews. If they would have just allowed them the tolerance and left them alone they would have probably developed a nuclear weapon much sooner than anyone else. They could have very well ruled most of world.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
Morality aside, they were pure f*ck*ng nuts. At Wannsee, despite having suffered a serious setback outside of Moscow, they decided to allocate thousands of troops and logistical assets to killing the Jews rather than winning the war.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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My Everyman's version of Ficciones has Ruthven Todd, Henry Reed, and Anthony Bonner as the translators
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 16, 2025 11:33 AM (PiwSw)
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I read The Book of Cold Cases I was looking for something accessible to get me back into reading and over my readers block. I finished it in 3-4 days but i cant say i would recommend it It mixed too many elements--crime /mystery, psychological thriller, and scary supernatural tale. I can see it being made into a movie and maybe itwould work better there. Rating: Meh
Posted by: LASue at November 16, 2025 11:34 AM (lCppi)
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If I can believe my ruler, the pbk of Doorways is 5x8 inches. I used Garamond as the type face, but I don't recall the size now and if there's a place to see that particular setting in my Kindle publish account it ain't jumping out at me. If I were doing the book today, I'd make the type a little bigger.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 11:25 AM (q3u5l)
I used Garamond 12pt in the 90k book. It comes out to 341 in the Libre Office double spaced. It comes out 216 single spaced on 8x11 That one would probably need to be a bigger size.
Anyway, that's stuff to take into account if self-publishing. Thanks.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:35 AM (uQesX)
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Did a little traveling over the last couple of days, and found some potentially nice reads at antique stores and library book sales.
Pre-Code Classics: Fantastic Worlds/Lost Worlds: Reprints a handful of science fiction comics from the early fifties. So far its been fascinating, and surprisingly well-written.
Latin for All Occasions, Henry Beard: Ecce illi cubiti is not in it, but is easily extrapolated from ecce illa mammeata.
Thomas Jeffersons Cook Book, Marie Kimball: Delving deeper into Kimballs historical tidbits about our gourmet President impressed hard how difficult it is to find anything about Jefferson that doesnt involve slavery. Also, why is every Jefferson scholar named Annette?
Also looking forward to:
The Case of the Amorous Aunt, Erle Stanley Gardner Confessions of a Hooker, Bob Hope
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Gotta tackle some yardwork. Later, book babies!
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 16, 2025 11:36 AM (kpS4V)
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I just finished book 2 of Scalzi's Old Man's War series; "The Ghost Brigades".
Lots of stuff woven together here. Mad scientist trying to destroy the human race for his own gain. Elite military clones of dead people fighting his allies.
I really enjoyed it.
I like Scalzi's style as I've never read his stuff before but I can see tiring of it for some reason.
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 11:36 AM (sPsWv)
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Eris,
Like I said many books each year on TR.
Actually 2 authors have recent 'River of Doubt' books out!
I have the longer one in my library wishlist.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at November 16, 2025 11:37 AM (KaHlS)
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I just watched a video about which gun and caliber had the greatest penetrating power through a set of encyclopedias.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 16, 2025 11:30 AM (ldPhE)
Encyclopedias? Pfft.
https://tinyurl.com/mr8k79r9
If you're a T-Rex, I wouldn't advise watching this.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:38 AM (uQesX)
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I think Ficciones and Labyrinths were the first Borges books to appear in English. The di Giovanni translations started around 1970 or so with Dutton's The Aleph and Other Stories, 1933-1969. Ficciones, Labyrinths, and A Personal Anthology, not being di Giovanni translations, weren't affected by Borges' widow's shutdown of the di Giovannis and should still be available.
Ficciones, Labyrinths, and Dreamtigers are the ones that did it for me when I was first scrounging up Borges' stuff in the late 60s. My initial exposure was through sf anthologies done by Terry Carr and Judith Merril.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 11:40 AM (q3u5l)
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I assumed everyone here understood the Germans' greatest mistake was bombing Pearl Harbor.
But seriously, all the reading I've done over the years, without having made a study of it, I think the general consensus is that nations too often don't know when to stop.
In other words, if you are invading, and you have no practical purpose for doing so, other than your own megalomaniacal desire to conquer more lands, or defeat your neighbors simply because you don't like them, eventually you lose everything.
A lesson history keeps repeating over and over and over.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 11:40 AM (mma/s)
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My Everyman's version of Ficciones has... Henry Reed... as the translators
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 16, 2025 11:33 AM (PiwSw)
Isn't he busy running his babysitting service?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:40 AM (uQesX)
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Hopefully, a version of AI can be engineered to replace the sucks-ass educational system we have now.
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 11:43 AM (sPsWv)
247I have to admit that I have never read The Wind in the Willows. Just never got to it, I guess. Maybe it's time.
Fleming told us that James Bond had read it. Bond encounters a villain in one of the short stories, and thinks, "He looked like Mr. Toad of Toad Hall in Technicolor."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 09:25 AM (wzUl9)
I was told by a Brit I worked with that Wind in the Willows was pretty much one of those culturally foundational books for England
Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2025 11:44 AM (rbvCR)
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246 Hopefully, a version of AI can be engineered to replace the sucks-ass educational system we have now.
Posted by: pawn at November 16, 2025 11:43 AM (sPsWv)
Who would program it?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2025 11:45 AM (g8Ew8)
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In other words, if you are invading, and you have no practical purpose for doing so, other than your own megalomaniacal desire to conquer more lands, or defeat your neighbors simply because you don't like them, eventually you lose everything.
A lesson history keeps repeating over and over and over.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 11:40 AM (mma/s)
You most likely kicked your friends' asses in Risk.
I had a very impressive win rate myself even with 6 people playing.
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 11:45 AM (Sco7b)
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On that happy note, this kid's off to spread chaos here at Casa Some Guy.
Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
Have a good one, gang.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 16, 2025 11:47 AM (q3u5l)
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Who would program it?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2025 11:45 AM (g8Ew
Men. Real men who care about educating their children. Not these sissy men who infest too many places now. Children need men in their lives, not just women.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:48 AM (uQesX)
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You most likely kicked your friends' asses in Risk.
I had a very impressive win rate myself even with 6 people playing.
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 11:45 AM (Sco7b)
No, my Risk win rate was rather low. I tended to think I was going to get a favorable dice roll, for reasons having nothing to do with reality or the laws of probability.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 11:49 AM (hOyAw)
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Hopefully, a version of AI can be engineered to replace the sucks-ass educational system we have now.
Posted by: pawn
Randi Weingarten is on the picket lines with the striking Starbucks baristas in New York City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl)
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You must also agree with all the climate models too.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 16, 2025 11:19 AM (EYmYM)
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That's it? That's your rebuttal?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 16, 2025 11:52 AM (XQo4F)
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Not a SINGLE mainstream news outlet covered the fact that the SITTING PRESIDENT of the NAACP in Charlotte NC said that President Trump:
“Believes Hitler was the greatest man on earth. Whose whole vision is to be like Hitler and create 1940s Germany..."
Not. A. Single. One.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)
Buttgigger called Vance a fascist too.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:53 AM (uQesX)
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I enjoyed that first video. Thanks Perfesser.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 16, 2025 11:52 AM (XQo4F)
Eh, Alyssa's better looking.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:53 AM (uQesX)
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251 Who would program it?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 16, 2025 11:45 AM (g8Ew
Men. Real men who care about educating their children. Not these sissy men who infest too many places now. Children need men in their lives, not just women.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:48 AM (uQesX)
This. A million times this. And women need to show men the respect they demand from them. Goose, gander, all that jazz.
Posted by: moki at November 16, 2025 11:54 AM (wLjpr)
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I did not know this but apparently Melania can't speak English, at least according to this Canadian.
Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Why are truck drivers being fired for not speaking English when the First Lady, in name only, also can’t speak it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:55 AM (L/fGl)
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Wargaming, and I have done a lot of gaming, distorts how stuff really happened. People are not counters in a box, or sprites on a screen.
In history, it seems stupidity, envy, pride, and lack of learning from others are the key human conditions.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 16, 2025 11:06 AM (u82oZ)
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Wargaming is supposed to reflect actual considerations historical leaders faced. Think of the old Avalon Hill box covers: "Now YOU are in command..."
Much of wargaming has no real sense of place for the player, who is mostly a process manager and the hardest part of command - logistics - is helpfully abstracted, assuming it is included at all.
Thus, if refighting say, Antietam, to keep the game fair, there has to be a "McClellan is a meathead" rule. In Their Quiet Fields has a nice take on it, which is that the Union player "pays" for activating the various corps in terms of victory points. This encourages players to try to win what what McClellan actually used.
I paid for all of them, explaining that I might technically lose, but would spend the next two hours pounding his army into paste.
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This. A million times this. And women need to show men the respect they demand from them. Goose, gander, all that jazz.
Posted by: moki at November 16, 2025 11:54 AM (wLjpr)
Even the kid's Hillsdale affiliated school has only a handful of men teaching. Used to be more when I was a kid.
How's the reading coming?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:57 AM (uQesX)
263Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Why are truck drivers being fired for not speaking English when the First Lady, in name only, also can’t speak it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025
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Even given the crazy assumption that Melania can't speak English, it's obvious. She is not being tasked with driving multi-ton machinery at high speeds when road signs are incomprehensible to her.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:58 AM (wzUl9)
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I seem to see SO MANY effeminate young men nowadays.
No desire to look, dress, or act masculine. No desire to do masculine things.
Imma go with the conspiracy theory that birth control pills have increased the amount of estrogen in the water supply.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 16, 2025 11:58 AM (XQo4F)
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Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Why are truck drivers being fired for not speaking English when the First Lady, in name only, also can’t speak it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:55 AM (L/fGl)
I suppose she'll get pushback, but my only response would be, "what's this got to do with you, slave?"
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 11:58 AM (uQesX)
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I suppose I should mention that Franco bore the burden of attack in the Spanish Civil War, was heavily outclassed in terms of resources and men, and managed to pretty much win continuously, only to be derided by the Germans as mediocre.
But he still offered jobs to their unemployed small arms designers.
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No, my Risk win rate was rather low. I tended to think I was going to get a favorable dice roll, for reasons having nothing to do with reality or the laws of probability.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2025 11:49 AM (hOyAw)
On games where I was going to lose, every last army went to destroy the person that ruined me. Even if I had to cross continents. They all knew that.
That helped in future games.
Violence works....
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 11:59 AM (Sco7b)
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About time for me to head off and do a few chores. Thanks, OE, for the video of shooting a T-Rex! And to the Perfessor and all of you for a fine Book Thread.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:59 AM (wzUl9)
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Even given the crazy assumption that Melania can't speak English, it's obvious. She is not being tasked with driving multi-ton machinery at high speeds when road signs are incomprehensible to her.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:58 AM (wzUl9)
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She speaks I think five languages fluently. In any other administration, she would be treated like a goddess.
Posted by: Skip at November 16, 2025 12:01 PM (+qU29)
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She speaks I think five languages fluently. In any other administration, she would be treated like a goddess.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Yeah? Well, Mooch speaks bitch.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 12:01 PM (L/fGl)
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About time for me to head off and do a few chores. Thanks, OE, for the video of shooting a T-Rex! And to the Perfessor and all of you for a fine Book Thread.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 16, 2025 11:59 AM (wzUl9)
You're welcome. Just don't mention it to T.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 12:01 PM (uQesX)
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I paid for all of them, explaining that I might technically lose, but would spend the next two hours pounding his army into paste.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 11:56 AM (ZOv7s)
In 30 years, when we all finally reach age 35, the Horde needs war game nights.
I'm pretty sure it would be freaking brutal.
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 12:02 PM (Sco7b)
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On games where I was going to lose, every last army went to destroy the person that ruined me. Even if I had to cross continents. They all knew that.
That helped in future games.
Violence works....
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 11:59 AM (Sco7b)
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I had two friends who were intensely competitive, to the point that we joked that if one was playing Spain during the Napoleonic wars, and the other Russia, they would still find a way to fight each others.
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I picked up the new James Islington novel, The Power of the Few. The first book in the series, The Will of the Many, I got as a Christmas gift it a hooked me. Finished in immediately.
Otherwise working on Barnaby Rudge still and dabbling at one of Eric Ambler's "mysteries". Ambler kind pisses me off so I can't read it in one sitting, too much pro-Commie Englishness...even when the protagonist is supposed to be American.
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260 I did not know this but apparently Melania can't speak English, at least according to this Canadian.
Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Why are truck drivers being fired for not speaking English when the First Lady, in name only, also can’t speak it?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 11:55 AM (L/fGl)
Do the people pushing that not realize that there are easily accessible videos of her addressing crowds at some of Trump's rallies? She has a notable Slovenian accent, but she speaks English quite well.
This is just part of the trend on X of shitposters throwing out wild claims for clicks, and counting on a lot of people being too credulous or lazy to check them out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2025 12:05 PM (uWKK8)
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Well, it's the saddest part of Sunday morning again. The end of the book thread. Thanks, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 16, 2025 12:08 PM (uQesX)
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And given that opportunity, they did.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 16, 2025 12:03 PM (ZOv7s)
That's funny.
Thanks.
Happy Sunday.
And nood if anyone missed it.
Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, LOVED, APPRECIATED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.4% at November 16, 2025 12:10 PM (Sco7b)
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I speak American and not that damn English gibberish
Posted by: TheCatAttackedMyFoot at November 16, 2025 12:12 PM (jrgJz)
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Now that my living is dependent on manufacturing AI, I welcome it. Doesn't matter to me if it makes everyone stupid, I gotta eat.
Posted by: Reforger at November 16, 2025 12:28 PM (phGCW)
282 And now, a musical interlude. Maduro sings Imagine!
https://is.gd/FpZiz4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 16, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)
Besides being a bus driver for a while, he was also the front man for a rock band, I think it was a Queen-themed band, but I don't remember
Posted by: Kindltot at November 16, 2025 12:33 PM (rbvCR)
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Rereading Eric Schlosser's 'Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety'.
Incredible book that weaves a real event with science, policy and nuclear history.
Excellent read.
Posted by: Mudshark at November 16, 2025 01:07 PM (f1zKO)
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I've been reading RH Snow's "Watcher of the Damned" series.
And I've started Hans Schanze "The Wise of Heart".
Also re-reading my own books so I can finish the series.