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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:00 AM (Zz0t1) 2
Late today
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 20, 2025 11:01 AM (N1tpc) 3
Minkey.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) 4
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Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 20, 2025 11:01 AM (/HDaX) 5
Monkey seems to be looking worse...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 20, 2025 11:01 AM (N1tpc) 6
NEW minkey.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) 7
Not gonna be first, might as well read the post.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 20, 2025 11:01 AM (ScUYC) Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 20, 2025 11:02 AM (kNsyQ) 9
Monkey has come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass and he's all out of bubble gum.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2025 11:02 AM (2UnvF) 10
If AI can make me a sous chef robot, that would be absolutely amazing.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 20, 2025 11:02 AM (N1tpc) 11
My opinion AI is like the start of mobile cell phones.
Right now it’s like having the brick sized phone. In a decade I predict it will be like having a smart phone. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:04 AM (KDPiq) 12
We've seen this movie before, with the Dot.com bubble. There is going to be one heck of a crash, and what remains will become something useful.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 20, 2025 11:04 AM (cEHXL) 13
but those are appropriately called "hallucinations,"
Pink elephants! Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 20, 2025 11:02 AM (kNsyQ) Keep chasing that dragon. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:05 AM (Zz0t1) 14
it seems that the powers that be didn't care at all that people were going to dealing with roving blackouts, sitting in the cold in the winter because we didn't have enough power.
But NOW that AI needs more energy, suddenly every state is looking into generating more power. Well, at least something good is coming out of AI. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 20, 2025 11:05 AM (N1tpc) 15
I doubt that AI is revolutionary. For the casual user, it is a bit more than a toy, but not yet an integral part of life. For the dedicated user it is a very useful tool to speed up tasks that are easily doable, but take time. Can it innovate? No. Can it invent? Well, yes, but those are appropriately called "hallucinations," and is the AI industry's dirty little secret!
__________ Agree with everything but "hallucinations." The hallucinations have to be a direct, causal result of the inputs. AI is nothing but more powerful computing. It is not, and can never be, sentient. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 20, 2025 11:05 AM (XvL8K) 16
47° in van nuys. California junkies with pop up thermometers like a turkey admitted to warming shelters.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 20, 2025 11:05 AM (kNsyQ) 17
I believe it was Pixy who commented that *generative* AI -- LLMs that are used to make chatbots, images, video, essays, music, etc. -- are indeed a bubble.
Pixy also said, and I agree, that *discriminitive* AI is most assuredly not a bubble. Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (GYGpZ) 18
Sounds like an AI bubble burst will result in us almost, but not quite, being able to provide enough electricity to charge all the EV's that the government wants us to drive.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (ScUYC) 19
My opinion AI is like the start of mobile cell phones.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:04 AM (KDPiq) Yes. every iteration got better...marginally. But there were no revolutions, regardless of what the Apple fanbois say. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV) 20
But NOW that AI needs more energy, suddenly every state is looking into generating more power. Well, at least something good is coming out of AI. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 20, 2025 11:05 AM (N1tpc) The new power will be for AI. We will still suffer mightily and pay out the ass for it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (Zz0t1) 21
Personally the only AI want totally revamped is autocorrect. The worst AI ever created. If I compared AI to the brick cell phone, autocorrect is two cans connected by a string.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (KDPiq) Posted by: fd at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (vFG9F) 23
Need moar organic coal.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (HTW/d) 24
Yes. It is.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (jbnUc) 25
it seems that the powers that be didn't care at all that people were going to dealing with roving blackouts, sitting in the cold in the winter because we didn't have enough power.
But NOW that AI needs more energy, suddenly every state is looking into generating more power. Well, at least something good is coming out of AI. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 20, 2025 11:05 AM (N1tpc) Yup. It's pulling people out of their global-warming stupor. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (g8Ew8) 26
Yes. every iteration got better...marginally. But there were no revolutions, regardless of what the Apple fanbois say.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV) I think smart phones was a ‘revolution’. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (KDPiq) 27
I see in Canada they were searching a guy's house for a gun.
They didn't find the gun but they found some drugs and a bunch of cash buried on his property They are seizing the cash because he can't prove he legally earned the money. Now he probably is a drug dealer and he probably got the money illegally but I guess being one of those "far right extremist" types...shouldn't the government have to prove that not just...seize the money? Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (sKqQm) 28
Right now it’s like having the brick sized phone. In a decade I predict it will be like having a smart phone.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:04 AM (KDPiq) Spoiler: the Motorola brick phones worked well as phones. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:08 AM (npFr7) 29
Need moar organic coal.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (HTW/d) Lignite is in abundance and was quite efficient in coal fired plants......that is until Owebama closed the coal fired plants...... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:08 AM (Zz0t1) 30
The biggest lie being sold right now is what is being sold to the public and companies is "AI". It isn't. It isn't intelligent. It doesn't think. It doesn't learn or improve. It's static and restricted to the limitations of its model from the end of its "training" period.
That's what's going to cause this house of cards to collapse sooner than later. Posted by: Gaff at November 20, 2025 11:08 AM (EqzMw) 31
I think someone should read certain earnings reports and forecasts from last night. Just saying ....
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 11:09 AM (iFTx/) 32
I think the AI bubble, when it bursts, is likely going to dwarf the tech collapse a decade or so ago.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2025 11:09 AM (NwnyJ) 33
It just occurred to me that maybe Michael Jackson named his chimp "Bubbles" because he liked blowing Bubbles.
Posted by: fd at November 20, 2025 11:10 AM (vFG9F) 34
Spoiler: the Motorola brick phones worked well as phones.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:08 AM (npFr7) If you were in range of a common tower. And Roaming charges applied. Now I can call anywhere in the world. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq) 35
Discriminitive AI is what has viable applications in nearly every industry, from sorting blueberries to guiding traffic, from The Surveillance(tm) to every kind of research imaginable.
None of those things are going away, and the use of AI in them is only going to increase. Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 20, 2025 11:10 AM (GYGpZ) 36
The world is still figuring out what to do with AI. Imagine it's sometime pre-1900, and people thinking, "With this new internal combustion engine, it will be possible for the smallest blacksmith shop to churn out hundreds of horseshoes per hour!"
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 20, 2025 11:10 AM (cEHXL) 37
Yes. every iteration got better...marginally. But there were no revolutions, regardless of what the Apple fanbois say.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV) I think smart phones was a ‘revolution’. Posted by: the way I see it A yes, a new widget that sucks our attention and focus into itself rather than those people and things around us, soon wedded with AI that removes the last underpinnings of reality from that equation. Yeah...no thanks. Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at November 20, 2025 11:10 AM (OUMaO) 38
The opposition in RTS games can't even play the game properly.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (HTW/d) 39
You guys are betting against Musk. Good luck.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (KDPiq) 40
I think smart phones was a ‘revolution’.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (KDPiq) I do too. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (g8Ew8) 41
I can't unsee the monkey's lips.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (k9OZB) 42
AI reminds me of NFTs which were going to sweep the world a couple of years ago, and instead ended up swept themselves.
It also reminds me of social media. Oh, what a boon that was to the human race. So much civility and enlightened discourse, not. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (WPL6O) 43
I think at least some of these "AI farms" and "data centers" they are building are actually something else. They're calling it AI to get the funding and interest etc but in reality they are perhaps massive scale surveillance or something. And of course they may very well use or plan to use AI.
And although I am nuts I am usually right so take it seriously when I tell you *something* is being hidden in plain sight here. Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (J/ft9) 44
I can't unsee the monkey's lips.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (k9OZB) Right? Original monkey > AI generated monkey Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:12 AM (Zz0t1) 45
27. The U.S. will seize cash also. Maybe they can't search property for it yet, but if they frisk someone walking or driving around with 10K (or whatever amount) the cash is seized and the person has to prove they were buying something legitimate like a used car, hay, etc for cash to get their money back. Sad world we live in.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 20, 2025 11:12 AM (hhkIi) 46
A quick internet search reveals that Bobcat Goldthwait already did that joke many yeas ago.
Posted by: fd at November 20, 2025 11:12 AM (vFG9F) 47
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‘ California junkies with pop up thermometers like a turkey admitted to warming shelters.’ Why does a junkie need a pop up thermometer? To let you know he’s done? Done what? Being a junkie? Done being a burden on society? Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM (jbnUc) 48
So, we're talking about Anal Intruders here, right?
Posted by: Nick Rivers at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM (7Q0e+) 49
I'm a Data Systems Architect.
The use cases for AI in business are overwhelming. If your business isn't figuring out how to take costly manual processes and use AI to improve them (not necessarily taking out the human-in-the-loop) then you're going to be at a competitive disadvantage for sure. We took a data mapping process where we had system data view extracts that were heterogeneous in nature across all of the projects that these systems hosted, and these datasets were manually mapped to a standardized, regulatory/industry standard. The process took about 8 weeks for a SAS programmer to accomplish and it was getting longer due to the volume of data being collected during clinical trials these days. The new process uses a variety of AI Agents to automatically map the datasets to the standard structure with about a 96% efficacy. There is still a human in the loop to perform that 4% of the data elements that fail to map properly, but it took that 8 week process down to a day. One day. And yes, there are QC and Validation processes that run on that mapped data - those were in place before the automation. The AI Agents work passes those validation gates. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM (WYStd) 50
Punk Monkey is entering is older butch lesbian era.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM (3uBP9) 51
AI certainly has some potential value.
I'm finding it is a very, very good search engine looking through reams of corporate documents to find what the heck I am actually supposed to do. But no, it isn't at all "intelligent". Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 11:14 AM (sKqQm) 52
So, we're talking about Anal Intruders here, right?
Posted by: Nick Rivers at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM (7Q0e+) That's hot! Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at November 20, 2025 11:14 AM (Zz0t1) 53
AI means “artificial Intelligence” and as such is both artificial and intelligent.
Posted by: Idaho Stelter at November 20, 2025 11:15 AM (xvV+O) 54
AI is a closed system. Inputs determine everything. Humans are not closed system.
Or at least I hope we're not. If the mind/body distinction doesn't actually exist, then there's no reason our creations could not eventually replicate us. But I don't believe that to be true. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (XvL8K) 55
Isn't AI also part of other things such as factory robots, self driving cars and other more odious irritants in new cars? From reading, these AI systems are part of many secondary but useful tools. There will be a place for AI whether it's the great panacea of computation or not.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (743lG) 56
But no, it isn't at all "intelligent".
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 11:14 AM (sKqQm) Right now AI’s main intelligence is to be able to learn patterns. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (KDPiq) 57
ICYMI -- from Pixy's Daily Tech News yesterday morning:
"The CEO of LLM marketplace Hugging Face says we're not in an AI bubble, just in an LLM bubble. (Tech Crunch)" https://is.gd/niubqD This is a valid point. LLMs are generative AI - you tell them to draw a picture of a frog eating a set of deep-fried bagpipes and they pull together petabytes of tagged and shredded images and spit out something that may or may not resemble what you asked for. That's the bubble. Discriminative AI is where you point your camera at some weird piece of modern art and it figures out it's supposed to be a frog enjoying a meal of deep-fried bagpipes. Or more usefully, when your self-driving car swerves the precise amount needed to avoid a black cart darting across an unlit road on a moonless night. That's getting less than 10% of the attention but represents 99% of the long-term value. Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (+mTgD) 58
If you were in range of a common tower. And Roaming charges applied.
Now I can call anywhere in the world. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq) Well, calling anywhere in the world can be done from a landline, now, too. That's more a result of the telcos changing their rate structure, than any tech advance. You still have to connect with a tower, unless your phone has wifi and some sort of VOIP protocol. And my home telco here in Canada, Rogers, still charges hefty roaming charges if I am in USA. So I have a Ting account to use Stateside. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (npFr7) 59
I asked AI to make me a picture of Michael Jackson blowing bubbles.
"I can't create images directly, but you can visualize Michael Jackson blowing bubbles as a fun image. " WTH good is that? Posted by: fd at November 20, 2025 11:17 AM (vFG9F) 60
The biggest issue with AI, as is with any computing system, is Garbage In, Garbage Out is still a thing.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:17 AM (Zz0t1) 61
You will pry my bag phone from my cold, dead digits!
Posted by: Cutting Edge Ted at November 20, 2025 11:17 AM (oftw2) 62
Well, at least something good is coming out of AI.
—— Oh, you sweet summer child. Whatever it is they are doing, if the usual suspects have such a hard on for it, ultimately it will be or is intended to be used for unscrupulous purposes. Bank on it. I’ve my suspicions. Essentially an automated Big Brother. Think “Mrs. Clinton with her brain in a jar” running the internet, and that’s probably close. Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2025 11:17 AM (SpYDH) 63
Can it innovate? No. Can it invent? Well, yes, but those are appropriately called "hallucinations," and is the AI industry's dirty little secret!
Posted by CBD at 11:00 AM Comments The lawyers will use it to write their briefs and the world laughs at them with glee. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 20, 2025 11:18 AM (uWSFJ) 64
The biggest lie being sold right now is what is being sold to the public and companies is "AI". It isn't. It isn't intelligent. It doesn't think. It doesn't learn or improve. It's static and restricted to the limitations of its model from the end of its "training" period.
That's what's going to cause this house of cards to collapse sooner than later. Posted by: Gaff at November 20, 2025 11:08 AM (EqzMw) I'm not so sure about that. I'm still seeing improvements and size reduction in quantum computer research. If that comes online and coupled with AI, it'll be much bigger than we can now imagine. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 20, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew8) 65
I think smart phones was a ‘revolution’.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:07 AM (KDPiq) I do too. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 20, 2025 11:11 AM (g8Ew _____ They clearly obviously were a revolution -- one of the biggest in all human existence. Think about how life was like before SP. Think about not having a SP now. Yeah. Major revolution. The only question is whether the revolution came in one big sudden product (iphone, etc) or more incrementally over a few years and products. I think it was the latter. But a revolution spread out over a few years and several products is still a revolution. The jury is still out on whether AI is a revolution, a hyped flop, or somewhere in the middle. I think the latter. Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 11:18 AM (iFTx/) 66
I doubt that AI is revolutionary.
While possible, I think it's very unlikely. AI has shown tremendous growth in capabilities, in multiple fields, and I don’t see it slowing anytime soon. In fact, as AI becomes more capable and can program additional AI systems to run subtasks, it will probably just get more efficient. From the military perspective, it's viewed as a potential gamechanger, almost like a superweapon. It could control fleets of drones, collecting intelligence on the enemy, adding other intel products from scouts, signal intercepts, etc to more accurately predict enemy strength and location, and guide attack drones to critical enemy assets. When large units need to redeploy, or theaters of war opened, AI can accout for the entirety of the logitistical footprint, calculate the optimal loading and shipping methods, plan convoy sizes, speeds and frequencies, etc (and maybe eventually drive much of equipment). It promises to make the entire force much more efficient, predictive, and able to rapidly respond, outpacing enemy armies in staff work speed and accuracy, which trickles down throughout the entire force. Posted by: Military Moron at November 20, 2025 11:19 AM (JCZqz) 67
You will pry my bag phone from my cold, dead digits!
Posted by: Cutting Edge Ted at November 20, 2025 11:17 AM (oftw2) I still have a bag phone. Of course, there's no carrier for it, but there was something to having a 3 watt transmitter there where you could talk uninterrupted in a tunnel while rolling along. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:19 AM (Zz0t1) 68
Isn't AI also part of other things such as factory robots, self driving cars and other more odious irritants in new cars? From reading, these AI systems are part of many secondary but useful tools. There will be a place for AI whether it's the great panacea of computation or not.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (743lG) ------------- Back when I began programming in the late 70s and 80s these were called "expert systems." Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:19 AM (+mTgD) 69
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM
I think most normal people -- no offense to our esteemed cob -- seem to conflate the useful discriminitive AI with the faddish generative AI. Most articles and comments I read, here and nearly everywhere else I frequent, reflect this and throw it all into one big pot called AI. It seems to be a big and fundamental mistake, to me. Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 20, 2025 11:19 AM (GYGpZ) 70
Think “Mrs. Clinton with her brain in a jar” running the internet, and that’s probably close.
Posted by: Common Tater No, it will not be even that smart Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 20, 2025 11:19 AM (uWSFJ) 71
@42. ...Oh, what a boon that was....
Get the good with the bad. Can't wait for the next new bright idea. Posted by: Case at November 20, 2025 11:19 AM (5Je/N) 72
The jury is still out on whether AI is a revolution, a hyped flop, or somewhere in the middle. I think the latter.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 11:18 AM (iFTx/) My point is that it’s not a revolution … yet As I opined I think we are at the brick phone stage. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:20 AM (KDPiq) 73
What does one believe the ratio is between legit, useful AI implementations and using it for chatbots, anime pr0n and flying, digital cats?
It's one thing to build out the infrastructure to support AI if it's providing something of value as compared to terabytes of digital cats. I've nothing against digital cats BTW. Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2025 11:20 AM (NwnyJ) 74
41% of likely voters aged 18-39 voiced support for a proposal to give an advanced AI system authority to control public policymaking decisions
- Star Trek had episodes in which a giant computer had taken over and my willingness to suspend disbelief was sorely tested. I mean, there's no way that could actually happen! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:20 AM (L/fGl) 75
49 I'm a Data Systems Architect.
The use cases for AI in business are overwhelming. If your business isn't figuring out how to take costly manual processes and use AI to improve them (not necessarily taking out the human-in-the-loop) then you're going to be at a competitive disadvantage for sure. ---------- Agree. It's a wrench in the toolbox. Excels at pattern recognition and moves fast. Human concern from my lens is over reliance - cognitive rot/laziness of people defaulting to it for everything. Posted by: scampydog at November 20, 2025 11:20 AM (2bFN5) 76
And my home telco here in Canada, Rogers, still charges hefty roaming charges if I am in USA. So I have a Ting account to use Stateside.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Rogers and Ting were a less successful vaudeville clone of Burns and Allen. Posted by: Pantages Theatre Circuit at November 20, 2025 11:20 AM (oftw2) 77
hen large units need to redeploy, or theaters of war opened, AI can accout for the entirety of the logitistical footprint, calculate the optimal loading and shipping methods, plan convoy sizes, speeds and frequencies, etc (and maybe eventually drive much of equipment). It promises to make the entire force much more efficient, predictive, and able to rapidly respond, outpacing enemy armies in staff work speed and accuracy, which trickles down throughout the entire force.
Posted by: Military Moron No it will only be as good as the poorest person who was used to train it. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 20, 2025 11:21 AM (uWSFJ) 78
51 AI certainly has some potential value.
I'm finding it is a very, very good search engine looking through reams of corporate documents to find what the heck I am actually supposed to do. But no, it isn't at all "intelligent". Posted by: 18-1 ---------- Yes, ask a common question and it will go through the same web we go through taking several minutes, in seconds. The better the question is framed the better the answer. The more one knows or understands the subject the more one can force AI to further pursue the topic. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 11:22 AM (743lG) 79
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:16 AM (+mTgD)
LLM's will remain the basis for AI for a long TIME to come. Not always in this form obviously. Language encodes human consciousness and essentially Creation, and right now language models are the way to "translate" that for computers. Anyone that says LLM's are a dinosaur IMO are woefully underinformed. Which is incredible to me because huggingface should know. But then a cobbler's shoes are never mended. Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:22 AM (J/ft9) 80
Star Trek had episodes in which a giant computer had taken over and my willingness to suspend disbelief was sorely tested. I mean, there's no way that could actually happen!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:20 AM (L/fGl) A Man could have a good time during the Time of Landru. Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (uWKK8) Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (J/ft9) 82
To me, the current situation with AI feels a lot like the nanotechnology of the 1980's. The same notion of "it's going to change everything and it'll be here any minute" and nobody really could explain how any of the supposed changes were supposed to happen although all manner of magic was described as a possible consequences of it.
Now, of course, much of the work that went into the nanotechnology of the 1980's is still around today, but none of the real magic ever occurred. I find that AI tends to make things easier when it works, but for some reason the things I ask it to do tend to confuse it. I didn't think I was that odd. Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (2Insx) 83
I hope the bubble bursts soon and those in the blue shithole cities are impacted the most so I can point and laugh when the scoops arrive to clear out the soylent green rioters and democrat goblins.
Posted by: Pain Is Good at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (t5X2c) 84
You know what's a game-changer?
Segways! They will change how people move! They are the future!! Buy now!!! Posted by: UncleJefe at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (gAuAm) Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (iJfKG) Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (xvV+O) 87
You may not be interested in AI but AI is interested in you. Oh yeah.
Posted by: Eromero at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (i+bC1) 88
LLMs are autocorrect on steroids, for good or ill.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (g/Chl) 89
"Now, of course, much of the work that went into the nanotechnology of the 1980's is still around today, but none of the real magic ever occurred."
Oh yeah? Posted by: Nanotech car wax at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (vFG9F) 90
...outpacing enemy armies in staff work speed and accuracy, which trickles down throughout the entire force.
Posted by: Military Moron --------- Artillery too. Drones, flight pattern, placement? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (743lG) 91
You know what's a game-changer?
Segways! They will change how people move! They are the future!! Buy now!!! Posted by: UncleJefe at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (gAuAm) Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1) 92
I still have a bag phone. Of course, there's no carrier for it, but there was something to having a 3 watt transmitter there where you could talk uninterrupted in a tunnel while rolling along.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer Around 2008, a group of VW guys had a meetup around Pike's Peak. No one had cell service except the old codger with a bag phone, who the youngsters were mocking until this point in the trip. Posted by: Get Off My Lawn! at November 20, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2) 93
Autocucumber wanted to turn ill into I’ll.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 20, 2025 11:25 AM (g/Chl) 94
The programmers are mostly Woke and/or anti-American. So their AI will be Woke and anti-American.
Maybe "AI" can be limited to lesser roles, and overseen by non-Woke humans, or maybe not. Wokeness might be more "efficient" ... make everyone think the same Woke nonsense, purge the unbelievers. Kinda like Islam, or China ... or communism? But America keeps dumping their paychecks into (the passive bid) the "Market", which money goes to the biggest companies that grow till the bubble pops. Smart guys (in link) feel that may not happen for a decade or more, idk. youtube.com/watch?v=g7E1d_flAog Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2025 11:26 AM (vbXSk) 95
" Autocucumber wanted to turn ill into I’ll.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit" That always makes me I'll. Posted by: fd at November 20, 2025 11:26 AM (vFG9F) 96
87 You may not be interested in AI but AI is interested in you. Oh yeah.
Posted by: Eromero ----- Getting to know you getting to know all about you Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 11:26 AM (743lG) 97
AI is nothing but more powerful computing. It is not, and can never be, sentient. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba Never say never. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2025 11:26 AM (pkeXY) 98
You know what's a game-changer?
Segways! They will change how people move! They are the future!! Buy now!!! Posted by: UncleJefe at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (gAuAm) Segway now produces gps drive lawn care robotics. Large estates and golf courses are their main customers. Soon Carl Spackler will be out of a job. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (KDPiq) 99
41% of likely voters aged 18-39 voiced support for a proposal to give an advanced AI system authority to control public policymaking decisions
------- And when you go into the actual poll you see the question in the Scary Headline was framed to lead as many people as possible to that response. Retarded. "Lawmakers are dummies and AI has been amazing a lot of people think AI is great at solving stuff and no one trust lawmakers to do anything right because they're idiots so if AI keeps getting better and better at doing what it's already great at, would you support it making decisions for us over lawmakers?" For fucks sake I would flip a ham sandwich to make decisions over someone like AOC. Don't look at poll, and for your own sanity, NEVER read headlines. Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (J/ft9) 100
59 I asked AI to make me a picture of Michael Jackson blowing bubbles.
"I can't create images directly, but you can visualize Michael Jackson blowing bubbles as a fun image. " WTH good is that? Posted by: fd Just in case you are serious, creating celebrity images is forbidden, for obvious reasons. You can probably get AI to write you a prompt that describes what Micheal Jackson looked like in the 1980s, frustratingly tweak it innumerable times, and get somewhat close but unsatisfying facsimilie. Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (kwZFA) 101
The lawyers will use it to write their briefs and the world laughs at them with glee.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 20, 2025 11:18 AM (uWSFJ) ------------- [Future Headline -- ] BREAKING: Trump Nominates AI ChatBot "Grok" as Next SCOTUS Justice Following Untimely Demise of Ketanji Brown "Affirmative Action" Jackson. Developing ... Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (+mTgD) 102
My wife is thrilled with AI. She's a graphic designer, so this makes sense. She showed me a couple of her ads for shopping center ads and they were fun. The question is how do they earn any money on the use of AI? Outside of marketing I don't see any big wins. We live in an ocean of media and surveillance. I don't see where moar media makes moar money. This may fall into Media Fatigue.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (Wg6v7) 103
Cash is an interesting carve-out from the principle of a presumption of innocence.
They get around this, I guess, by charging the cash with a crime, not the individual. So I guess it’s “U.S. government versus $32,564.32 in cash” on the docket. Does the cash get its own attorney? Probably not. Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (pPsbV) 104
Likely that AI will take out most mid-level corporate jobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2025 11:27 AM (uWKK8) 105
There is another Shale Oil Revolution underway. They engineer a waste product to replace the sand and it outperforms it.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:28 AM (HTW/d) 106
Autocucumber wanted to turn ill into I’ll.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 20, 2025 11:25 AM (g/Chl) It does gamble by assuming you're wanting the word you use more often. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:28 AM (Zz0t1) 107
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‘ 41% of likely voters aged 18-39 voiced support for a proposal to give an advanced AI system authority to control public policymaking decisions’ This was always my worry about AI. That hordes of weak willed retards would declare AI as an infallible authority on everything. Like they did with The Science recently. Of course, the problem here isn’t AI but the retards and the votes they’re allowed to have. Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 20, 2025 11:28 AM (jbnUc) 108
The new process uses a variety of AI Agents to automatically map the datasets to the standard structure with about a 96% efficacy. There is still a human in the loop to perform that 4% of the data elements that fail to map properly, but it took that 8 week process down to a day. One day.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:13 AM (WYStd) This is exactly the sort of stuff that will drive valuations. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:28 AM (n9ltV) 109
11 My opinion AI is like the start of mobile cell phones.
Right now it’s like having the brick sized phone. In a decade I predict it will be like having a smart phone. ------------------------------------------------ Unless there is some major breakthrough in materials science that allows us to move beyond silicon as the basis for computing, probably not. Moore's Law has been dead for at least a decade and clock speeds on silicon have not increased. Meanwhile, it cost OpenAI two orders of magnitude more $$ to train GPT4 relative to GPT3, and another order of magnitude to train GPT5 (which is only marginally better, if at all, than GPT4). The technology is getting *more* expensive as it advances while the returns on the investment are diminishing. Large Language Models (the basis for today's AI) is probably about as good as it's going to get, or close to it. Posted by: Cynical Stoic at November 20, 2025 11:29 AM (U6BqK) 110
"Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer " You'll never get me up in one of those things. Posted by: fd at November 20, 2025 11:29 AM (vFG9F) 111
I saw a video the other day of Micheal Jackson stealing fried chicken and running from the cops.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 20, 2025 11:29 AM (oK8nO) 112
They get around this, I guess, by charging the cash with a crime, not the individual. So I guess it’s “U.S. government versus $32,564.32 in cash” on the docket. Does the cash get its own attorney? Probably not.
Posted by: Common Tater __________ I think that's the point. If somebody steps up to claim that $32,564.32, they're going to have some explaining to do. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 20, 2025 11:29 AM (XvL8K) 113
Aren't segways like mini bikes?
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:29 AM (HTW/d) 114
63 Can it innovate? No. Can it invent? Well, yes, but those are appropriately called "hallucinations," and is the AI industry's dirty little secret!
Posted by CBD at 11:00 AM Comments The lawyers will use it to write their briefs and the world laughs at them with glee. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 20, 2025 11:18 AM (uWSFJ) Has anyone seen a good explanation for hallucinations? Why does AI make up fake decisions, case citations, and legal quotations? Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 20, 2025 11:30 AM (pbDcz) 115
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AI is nothing but more powerful computing. It is not, and can never be, sentient. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba ------------------ Make a sandwich, fry a steak, cut the yard, clean the house - good enough for me. One more thing - drive a nail and operate a screw gun. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 11:30 AM (743lG) 116
Lol @ Trump telling Bloomberg's WH correspondent "quiet, piggy!"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 20, 2025 11:30 AM (BI5O2) 117
Rep Jasmine Cockroach doubled down on live TV after her "Jeffrey Epstein" debacle
Posted by: SMOD at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM (RHGPo) 118
Norway Pauses Use of Fart-Reducing Cattle Feed in Wake of Danish Cow-Tastrophe
- Cow farts are certainly a bigger threat than Islamification, the collapse of western civilization, and our ciries' descent into criminal chaos. P.S. Why isn't anyone worried about illegal alien farts? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM (L/fGl) 119
74 41% of likely voters aged 18-39 voiced support for a proposal to give an advanced AI system authority to control public policymaking decisions
- Star Trek had episodes in which a giant computer had taken over and my willingness to suspend disbelief was sorely tested. I mean, there's no way that could actually happen! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Just like the Magi computers in Neon Genesis Evangelion...and everything there worked out great!!! Posted by: Weeb at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM (JCZqz) 120
110 "Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer " -------------- I prefer a rickshaw powered by a Coolie. Posted by: Pudinhead at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM (Wg6v7) 121
>>>AI is interested in you. Eromero You can say that again! I am a professional technical writer, and I despise AI because it is useless for the types of reasoned analysis that I need to convey. That said, AI really really really really really really wants me to upload my work product to it. Not. A. Chance. Posted by: imp at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM (g6TN6) 122
This is the online Porn and Influencer generation. For them, stepping over into the AI world is a small step indeed. Their lives have been compelled by images on a screen, and they give no damns about what, or who, is behind the screens. They are just pretty lazy and careless thinkers.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (PCK5/) 123
P.S. Why isn't anyone worried about illegal alien farts?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM (L/fGl) Right.. All those beans... I denounce myself... Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (VE6XX) 124
In that same poll the highest approval of Trump among *any* religious affiliation came from... you guessed it... muslims. 62%
Why wasn't that the headline? Also 78% of atheists strongly disapprove of Trump. Talk about being over the target, my God. I think that was by far the strongest strong disapproval of any group. Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (J/ft9) 125
I still have a bag phone. Of course, there's no carrier for it, but there was something to having a 3 watt transmitter
——— Ranchers out West and remote area guys hung on the longest, I’ve read. Analog signals of that power could get a tower connection where nothing else would. Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (pPsbV) 126
Rep Jasmine Cockroach doubled down on live TV after her "Jeffrey Epstein" debacle
Posted by: SMOD __________ I'll lay 2:1 that it's Ace's first post. Too much fodder there. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (XvL8K) 127
CBD utilizing AI to generate a picture of his punk chimp blowing a bubblegum bubble.
Wheels within wheels withing wheels, man. Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (0sNs1) 128
To me, the current situation with AI feels a lot like the nanotechnology of the 1980's. The same notion of "it's going to change everything and it'll be here any minute" and nobody really could explain how any of the supposed changes were supposed to happen although all manner of magic was described as a possible consequences of it.
Now, of course, much of the work that went into the nanotechnology of the 1980's is still around today, but none of the real magic ever occurred. I find that AI tends to make things easier when it works, but for some reason the things I ask it to do tend to confuse it. I didn't think I was that odd. Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2025 11:23 AM (2Insx) Cybersmythe! When did YOU get here?!?! Posted by: Doof at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (Ltmlv) 129
If all immigrants were sent home it would reduce their Carbon footprint.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (HTW/d) 130
One of the funniest thing in my daily inbox is a report from Bloomberg Green. Today they report on the COP Climate Change confab in Brazil, where Gov Newsom is wielding the mantle of power abdicated by Trump:
"One of the biggest fights at COP is, well, a food fight. Specifically, how much meat is on the menu. Strange bedfellows that include vegan activists, climate-denying bloggers and even Republican House members have made hay over beef and other meats being served at previous COPs." They think this is straight reporting. ISYN Posted by: Ignoramus at November 20, 2025 11:33 AM (dtajH) 131
I’ve taken investments out of so-called AI. There’s not enough resources to make it work as promoted. Some growth in power generation would be a positive outcome after the bubble bursts. So-called AI is mid. It has some uses, but the hype is overblown. It is not general intelligence, but people want it to be. It’s like the Rogerian psychotherapist program ELIZA. So many people thought it was intelligent, but you could write an ELIZA-type program in a few pages of BASIC.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 20, 2025 11:33 AM (g/Chl) 132
Just in case you are serious, creating celebrity images is forbidden, for obvious reasons.
------------ Wasn't the original Hakeem Jeffries Sombrero meme with fake Chuck U. Schumer dialogue -- posted by Trump -- generated by an AI? Maybe that's not technically "creating celebrity images?" [From last year, Trump & Musk dancing to the BeeGees' "Staying Alive:"] https://is.gd/C2HQDE Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:34 AM (+mTgD) 133
"Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer " You'll never get me up in one of those things. Posted by: fd If God had meant us to roll, he'd have given us wheels instead of feet. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:34 AM (L/fGl) 134
> The programmers are mostly Woke and/or anti-American. So their AI will be Woke and anti-American.
------ One would think that after years of dealing with the woke and anti-American Google results from web searches, people would get that. But... the flying cats make it all better. Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2025 11:34 AM (NwnyJ) 135
Also 78% of atheists strongly disapprove of Trump. Talk about being over the target, my God. I think that was by far the strongest strong disapproval of any group.
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (J/ft9) 80% of woke leftists are atheist. They can’t reconcile their evil positions with a judgmental God. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 11:35 AM (KDPiq) 136
P.S. Why isn't anyone worried about illegal alien farts?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:31 AM Because we can't afford to eat at Taco Bell or Chipotle, señor, due to the non-living wages you pay us. Posted by: Undocumented Guest Citizens at November 20, 2025 11:35 AM (0sNs1) 137
Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1) Someone explain to Alanis Morissette that THIS is the kind of stuff she was looking for! Posted by: Doof at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (Ltmlv) 138
Harambe stopped blowing bubbles years ago. He was too good to live in this fallen world.
Posted by: Good Night, Fair Prince! at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (oftw2) 139
74 41% of likely voters aged 18-39 voiced support for a proposal to give an advanced AI system authority to control public policymaking decisions
----------- Here's a link (goes to Sharyl Attkisson) about that study. https://tinyurl.com/yhjdufcc Posted by: scampydog at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (2bFN5) 140
I’ve taken investments out of so-called AI.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 20, 2025 11:33 AM (g/Chl) I redirected some to index funds that are lighter on tech/AI. they are tough to find though! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (n9ltV) Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (+mTgD) 142
Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1) Not the inventor. The promoter who bought the company from him. I doubt the machine itself can be blamed for his death; more like an inexperienced user riding it where such a machine should not be ridden? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (npFr7) 143
Ypu hardly ever fart on Keto Carnivore.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (HTW/d) 144
Yes. every iteration got better...marginally. But there were no revolutions, regardless of what the Apple fanbois say.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:06 AM (n9ltV) Oh, I'd say it was a revolution. The iPhone (and competitors) were more about finding ways to constant force your attention of the iPhone and never/rarely letting it out of your sight or hand. This was a huge social revolution. The iPhone gobbled up every other "hand device" people used cameras, music formats, videos, movies TV, news, weather, and now medical devices and sleep monitors It turned phone calls into huge worldwide social networks that crippled the idea of nationhood, it allow clever propaganda and mind manipulation into your home and presented it to your children, and let antisocial lunatics gather and thrive. It eats the time you would spend talking to people directly or read books or play sports, etc. The complete tyrannical silliness of Obama and Biden years would've been impossible without the iPhone and the nationwide "tattletale system" it enabled. Now, technologically there have been few massive changes since oh maybe 4 years ago, but socially...yeesh! Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (iJfKG) 145
think that's the point. If somebody steps up to claim that $32,564.32, they're going to have some explaining to do.
——- Nah, that’s bullshit. Some states have made this an extra-curricular activity. They would pull people over on the highway and confiscate the cash. I’m not claiming they came about the cash legitimately. What I am saying is that it’s up to law enforcement to prove they are crooks. Not the other way around. See the difference? I knew you could. Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (pPsbV) 146
Right now AI is in the "computer fills a room to do lots of addition and subtraction" phase. This is the 60's. No where near the brick sized cell phones yet.
One day in the not too far future a computer will be AI and AI will be a computer. They will be one and the same. Scary but that's the way it is. Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (J/ft9) 147
I did notice a strange juxtaposition in JJ's morning dump: between the corn of AI helping to train incoming junior coders, and the nuts of "Compact" magazine telling how Trump can save the future by ruling against AI...
As for AI being a bubble, I'm hearing that - yes - the "Large Language Models" are a bubble. Other AI seems to be proceeding properly tinyurl.com/ytf6js7e Posted by: gKWVE at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (gKWVE) 148
Been a partner at a mid sized multi state law firm for decades. When i started lawschool we where using books to shepardize. By year two there was a lexis terminal in the library and we learned lexis and westlaw. By time i graduated multiple terminals. At works laptops but you still had dedicated terminals for research. In about 5 years online research on laptop. So im a dinosaur. In my firm there is currently a full throated embrace of AI. I dont get it. It is often wrong. Not just wrong but misleadingly so. It is almost deceptive. Many examples of it hallucinating either case law or facts. Its like having a sociopath on staff. Why???? I think the AI companies are providing companys big incentives to adopt. IT managers, CIO types etc. The idea that the current systems are something that should be widely adopted in critical fields lime law or medicine is nuts. So it has to be driven by perverse incentives.
Posted by: My two cents at November 20, 2025 11:37 AM (QSRw1) 149
I’m not claiming they came about the cash legitimately. What I am saying is that it’s up to law enforcement to prove they are crooks. Not the other way around. See the difference? I knew you could.
Posted by: Common Tater _________ Wouldn't the burden of proof still be on the state? If not, then I agree with you. Otherwise, I don't. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 20, 2025 11:38 AM (XvL8K) 150
If God had meant us to roll, he'd have given us wheels instead of feet.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks "An armadillo is like an armored car, 'cept it's got feet instead". Posted by: John Dawson 1972 at November 20, 2025 11:38 AM (oftw2) 151
Our pixel screens mesmerize. People are so easily led. So many want to be told what to do and what to think. It’s a warm and cozy safe place when huddled around screens with right thinking people. Confirmation Bias flowers. Hmmm. I’m going to avoid Mirrors today.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:38 AM (PCK5/) 152
A very good analysis of AI. Well done.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at November 20, 2025 11:38 AM (w3u3d) 153
Didn't the inventor of the Segway die via Segway driving him off a cliff?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1) Someone explain to Alanis Morissette that THIS is the kind of stuff she was looking for! Posted by: Doof at November 20, 2025 11:36 AM (Ltmlv) --------------- Please tell me he was eating a CLIF Energy Protein Bar at the time. Lie to me if you must ... Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:39 AM (+mTgD) Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 11:39 AM (iFTx/) 155
125 I was at an in law social function and the Ex Wife's cuz showed up. He worked for the railroad and had a bag phone, a Motorola, and a pager on him, being on call. Guess they could get hold of him. BTW, he worked railroad crashes. I asked him how often that happened, never hearing too much about them. "Ahh, we wreck 'em on a weekly basis".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 20, 2025 11:39 AM (gm9Sb) 156
But no, it isn't at all "intelligent".
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 11:14 AM And if Gen Z is coding it, it sure as hell won't become self-aware. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2025 11:40 AM (Wnv9h) 157
Ranchers out West and remote area guys hung on the longest, I’ve read. Analog signals of that power could get a tower connection where nothing else would.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM (pPsbV) You cannot even connect an external antenna to a modern cellphone now. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:40 AM (npFr7) 158
This is exactly the sort of stuff that will drive valuations.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2025 11:28 AM (n9ltV) The cool part of this is that the company I work for has a directive in place to not allow AI (or rather, machine learning) to displace workers or make them redundant. Those SAS Programmers are now working on other tasks - actually, much sexier tasks like custom predictive analytic dashboards. Eventually the directive will run its course, and some redundancies will be made evident but for now - its definitely helped. What has NOT helped is leadership's "shotgun" approach to implementing these AI tools. There's basically a governance group that greenlight individual department AI implementations and its turned into a hot mess of costs over-runs and confusing "which agent do I use to lookup the information I want?" kind of environment. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:41 AM (WYStd) 159
You cannot even connect an external antenna to a modern cellphone now. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:40 AM (npFr7) You can't add a memory card. You can't add an antenna. They've set you up to buy a new phone every 3 years. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Zz0t1) 160
78% of atheists strongly disapprove of Trump
More evidence if evidence be needed that atheism is an emotional stance more than a rational one. I am hardly in the running to be the next Pope (I suspect a full atheist might have it easier, but anyway) but "fellow" skeptics on Youtube are routinely idiotic about basic facts. I was just over there arguing with those nitwits about the new ballroom in the White House. As if when Trump is finished with it, he'll get Eric and Don Jr to lift the thing on their shoulders and carry it to Florida. Posted by: gKWVE at November 20, 2025 11:42 AM (gKWVE) 161
But... the flying cats make it all better.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 20, 2025 11:34 AM And the Rottweilers yeeting Chihuahuas into pools. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Wnv9h) 162
Tired of trying to decipher what is generated by AI. Anything generated by AI needs to be very clearly stamped AI. Not a watermark that blends into the scenery.
Posted by: sidney at November 20, 2025 11:43 AM (Uy/WF) 163
157 One of my first cell phones, a Nokia, had a pull up antenna like the old transistor radios . I often wondered if it was just an ornament.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 20, 2025 11:43 AM (gm9Sb) 164
Wouldn't the burden of proof still be on the state?
——- No, it isn’t and that’s the point. Another glaring carve out in the “guilty until proven innocent” inversion is the I.R.S., it’s up to the tax filer to prove his case. Posted by: Common Tater at November 20, 2025 11:43 AM (pPsbV) 165
Thx CBD.
AI will be a tool like any other. Initially hyped and overpriced (see .com bubble) it will become ubiquitous in everyday life. Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 20, 2025 11:43 AM (bfwj/) 166
AI is the new tulip.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:45 AM (HTW/d) 167
Posted by: My two cents at November 20, 2025 11:37 AM (QSRw1)
Generative AI shouldn't be used for RAG (Retrieval Augmented Generation) solutions. You'll use an LLM to formulate the output into sentences that humans can understand, but the task of analyzing the source documents should be left up to a very specific trained "embedded" model that has indexed all of the source material in a database-like storage schema that gives the embedding model context for the data its supposed to analyze. My first "AI" project at work was creating a "Contract Chatbot" which allowed users to ask questions about the contracts we had with our vendors. All of those contract documents had to be curated, chunked, and indexed. It does not hallucinate because it has strict instructions via system prompt to not "make stuff up" if the search index returns no results for the query it generates from the user prompt. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:45 AM (WYStd) 168
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My first "AI" project at work was creating a "Contract Chatbot" which allowed users to ask questions about the contracts we had with our vendors. All of those contract documents had to be curated, chunked, and indexed. It does not hallucinate because it has strict instructions via system prompt to not "make stuff up" if the search index returns no results for the query it generates from the user prompt. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:45 AM (WYStd) So you had a “ no bullshitting” code embedded. Nice. Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:46 AM (PCK5/) 169
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Its like having a sociopath on staff. Why???? I think the AI companies are providing companys big incentives to adopt. IT managers, CIO types etc. The idea that the current systems are something that should be widely adopted in critical fields lime law or medicine is nuts. So it has to be driven by perverse incentives. Posted by: My two cents at November 20, 2025 11:37 AM (QSRw1) -------------- I was really naive coming out of college and working as a software developer in corporate America; there were IT Managers and VPs corruptly purchasing (with corporate dollars) systems from "friends" who were sales reps for those products -- and then profiting personally via monetary or "gift" kickbacks from those same sales reps. Sounds just like The US Congress ... Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:47 AM (+mTgD) 170
No, it isn’t and that’s the point. Another glaring carve out in the “guilty until proven innocent” inversion is the I.R.S., it’s up to the tax filer to prove his case.
Posted by: Common Tater ___________ Who is the "tax filer" in the case captioned state vs. 32 grand? Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 20, 2025 11:47 AM (XvL8K) 171
You can't add a memory card. You can't add an antenna. They've set you up to buy a new phone every 3 years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Zz0t1) There is a market out there for user-configurable smart phones that run a privacy-preserving OS. No iOS, no Android, no adservers, no trackers, so spyware. So far, the attempts at Linux-based phones have been sub-optimal, to say the least. I wish Elon Musk would put some of his bright boys and girls to work on a secure Starlink phone with a proprietary OS. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:47 AM (npFr7) 172
Star Trek had episodes in which a giant computer had taken over and my willingness to suspend disbelief was sorely tested. I mean, there's no way that could actually happen! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Just like the Magi computers in Neon Genesis Evangelion...and everything there worked out great!!! Posted by: Weeb I have no mouth and I must scream. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2025 11:47 AM (pkeXY) 173
You can't add a memory card. You can't add an antenna. They've set you up to buy a new phone every 3 years.
uh-oh...I'm way out of date Posted by: DanMan at November 20, 2025 11:48 AM (8uzBS) 174
Like Batman, he leaps into action!
Brandon Johnson Calls for More Counselors After Mob of Students Attacked a Mom and Her Child in Chicago - Also Brandon and. REPORTER: "An illegal alien from Nicaragua grabbed a woman on the north side last week, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious and raped her..." CHICAGO MAYOR: "Let's move on." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:48 AM (L/fGl) 175
You can't add a memory card. You can't add an antenna. They've set you up to buy a new phone every 3 years.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:42 AM (Zz0t1) You can add USB-C devices that do all of these things. At least in Android-land. Apple is asshoe. They don't let you plug ANYTHING in that doesn't meet their haughtier than thou standards. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:49 AM (WYStd) 176
Look at CBD's misuse of AI. He placed Sydney Sweeney's lips on Punk Monkey!!! I suppose CBD's trying to create a new animal analogue for "Furries". Call them "Humies" - animals deformed to resemble humans. "The Island of Doctor CBD"- "Are we not men?" "No. No, you aren't. You just have Sydney Sweeney's Lips." Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2025 11:49 AM (iJfKG) 177
You can add USB-C devices that do all of these things. At least in Android-land. Apple is asshoe. They don't let you plug ANYTHING in that doesn't meet their haughtier than thou standards. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:49 AM (WYStd) A very cumbersome solution. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 20, 2025 11:50 AM (Zz0t1) 178
126 Rep Jasmine Cockroach doubled down on live TV after her "Jeffrey Epstein" debacle
Posted by: SMOD __________ I'll lay 2:1 that it's Ace's first post. Too much fodder there. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba Let me put on my other hat here, and share from r/womenoftheleft (a bunch of pictures of "sexy" Leftists) Jasmine Crockett is both brilliant AND beautiful. More please! Jesus I don’t even think I could make it past that ass. It’s so huge. God I love her. she's 4 years older than Scar-Jo, but is so much sexier. Its insane. You know what they say about what doesn't crack? Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 20, 2025 11:50 AM (JCZqz) 179
The internet promised to change society in a number of positive ways. And it has. But it's also created
- social media that has made a generation anti-social - free pornography that has created the INCEL phenomenon - division and balkanization as the anonymity factor has brought out the worst impulses in many - the ability of the state to monitor virtually everything we do, where we go and what we see online So, despite all the promises of AI, there will be serious downsides as well. As we've already seen with AI chatbots encouraging troubled individuals to commit suicide, eliminate actual human contact from their lives and other harmful effects. Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at November 20, 2025 11:50 AM (MNCvZ) 180
Been a partner at a mid sized multi state law firm for decades. When i started lawschool we where using books to shepardize. By year two there was a lexis terminal in the library and we learned lexis and westlaw. By time i graduated multiple terminals. At works laptops but you still had dedicated terminals for research. In about 5 years online research on laptop. So im a dinosaur. In my firm there is currently a full throated embrace of AI. I dont get it. It is often wrong. Not just wrong but misleadingly so. It is almost deceptive. Many examples of it hallucinating either case law or facts. Its like having a sociopath on staff. Why???? I think the AI companies are providing companys big incentives to adopt. IT managers, CIO types etc. The idea that the current systems are something that should be widely adopted in critical fields lime law or medicine is nuts. So it has to be driven by perverse incentives.
Posted by: My two cents at November 20, 2025 11:37 AM (QSRw1) Ahhh... Shephardizing by hand. The good ol' days! Posted by: LASue at November 20, 2025 11:50 AM (lCppi) 181
Don't think it's like the dot coms (peaked on March 10, 2000, with the market bottoming out in October 2002) which had all the IPOs in play when it peaked, but AI will do some substantial damage for at least the next decade or two.
I think the biggest negative is further dumbing down the supposed sophisticated, learned societies of US, EU, UK, etc. quickly so that the reactionary movements of 'civil societies' take over, and not by any means for the betterment of most. (Self-interests will win, even if initially presented as common good. In fighting will also be hell.) Maybe dot com was more about $$$, AI about power. IDK, only suspect. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at November 20, 2025 11:50 AM (NFX2v) 182
You can add USB-C devices that do all of these things.
At least in Android-land. Apple is asshoe. They don't let you plug ANYTHING in that doesn't meet their haughtier than thou standards. Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:49 AM (WYStd) An antenna via USB-C? Or a link to some kind of repeater? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:50 AM (npFr7) 183
Dick Cheney funeral on the TV. How long ago did he die anyway.
Posted by: javems at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (8I4hW) 184
The real question is: What will happen to demand for AI products for the foreseeable future?
Did anyone actually "demand" AI or is it something that the brainiacs built because they wanted to and then foisted upon consumers in order to justify their existence? Posted by: Oddbob at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (3nLb4) 185
AI is not only a bubble, it is the newest incarnation of "the skyscraper curse", made worse in that it is not only the culmination of a cycle of easy money leading to malinvestment, but that Invidia is currently funding its own customers by financing their purchases of chips, and then claiming the sales as income AND as future earnings on the loans.
with luck we will have the micronukes up and running so we have something to build on besides giant unused industrial facilities being fought over by the creditors. Posted by: Kindltot - Trying to stop destroying Western civilization for at least five minutes, you are welcome at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (rbvCR) 186
So you had a “ no bullshitting” code embedded. Nice.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:46 AM (PCK5/) I had instructions to the LLM part (The GPT) that asked questions of the embedding model (The source data) that told it that if the embedding model returns no results of quality, then it was not to try to use any other source or generate any output other than "The answer to your query could not be found in the source documents." Its a bit more complicated than that - but I was also working with a rather heterogenous dataset of only about 15,000 documents which is rather small. But still, I'm actually surprised to hear that a "Legal" AI Agent is making stuff up like that still. If you're using just a general LLM to do that kind of stuff then yeah - its job is precisely to make shit up! Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (WYStd) Posted by: Doesn't Matter at November 20, 2025 11:53 AM (JCLJi) 188
AI is wiping out certain segments of the music biz. Friends of mine who would work as song writers, or even finishing and developing songs for bands used to be up to their eyebrows in work aren't doing shit anymore because of AI. I was a little doubtful until I saw it demonstrated. A bass player friend of mine grabs his phone, and asks some program to write him a pirate metal song. Poof, in no time there it was. All the lyrics, everything. I was speechless.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9) 189
> Spoiler: the Motorola brick phones worked well as phones.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 11:08 AM (npFr7) Heh... I remember a Radio Shack commercial for one of the early models (don't recall if it was Motorola). It used an external battery pack with a shoulder strap, about the size (and probably weight) of a motorcycle battery. You could feel the effort the actor was making to try to make it look like humping that thing around was No Big Deal. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2025 11:54 AM (IG3/x) 190
Anything generated by AI needs to be very clearly stamped AI.
------------- Is this an actual federal law? [Asks Brave "AI:"] "No, there is currently no comprehensive federal law in the United States that requires all AI-generated content to be clearly stamped or labeled as such. While there are proposed federal bills, such as the AI Disclosure Act of 2023, which would have required generative AI outputs to include a disclaimer stating they were AI-generated and enforced by the FTC, these have not been enacted into law." Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:54 AM (+mTgD) 191
Shephardizing by hand. The good ol' days! Posted by: LASue Remember when you couldn't trust the flags on the research software? It's still not perfect 25 years later! If that's the AI competency arc, we are in for a lot of collapsing infrastructure Posted by: imp at November 20, 2025 11:55 AM (g6TN6) 192
What about The Obama College Transcripts Transparency Act?
Posted by: In other news at November 20, 2025 11:56 AM (/hd6E) 193
Musk Nvidia amd the Saudis are buipding a 500 MW data center.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:56 AM (HTW/d) 194
Dick Cheney funeral on the TV. How long ago did he die anyway.
Posted by: javems at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (8I4hW) I bet the embalmers are having a hell of a time trying to keep that old bastard from smelling up the joint. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 20, 2025 11:56 AM (g8Ew8) 195
Hurricane season has just 2 weeks remaining, but so far, for the first time in a decade:
ZERO hurricanes made US landfall ZERO Gulf hurricanes - Legal Phil @Legal_Fil Can’t help but notice that since it was renamed the Gulf of America, hurricanes have decided not to mess with it. - I never knew meteorology was so complex. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 11:56 AM (L/fGl) 196
Did anyone actually "demand" AI or is it something that the brainiacs built because they wanted to and then foisted upon consumers in order to justify their existence?
Posted by: Oddbob at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (3nLb4) Without the demand it would not be so big. Do not make the Krugman mistake of "who is ever going to want to buy stuff without going to a store, or read a computer on the train?" Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (J/ft9) 197
The latest "AI assist" that was inflicted on us in Emburse Enterprise (a travel and purchase card reconciliation system, formerly known as Chrome River), is an automatic itemization of hotel folios.
It has not been trained on anything but the most standard format hotel receipt. It takes any number that looks like an amount and creates a line item for it under the main transaction. It does not automatically flood the hotel's name into the appropriate field in the itemization. It does not consider that clients may not have the capability or the need or the desire to categorize itemized taxes and fees. This "assist" was rolled out "to save time and effort" but it increases both by a factor of 10 or more, because the user has to edit each itemization to add the information the AI is too stupid to put in correctly, or delete, line by line all the itemizations that the AI made that are not needed. And if I knew how to contact them to complain about it I would. Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (a+4eV) 198
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Poof, in no time there it was. All the lyrics, everything. I was speechless. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9) ------------- My last day commenting here will be when an AI ChatBot starts writing better and more clever & punny limericks than Muldoon. /only half-joking Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (+mTgD) 199
As if when Trump is finished with it, he'll get Eric and Don Jr to lift the thing on their shoulders and carry it to Florida.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 20, 2025 11:42 AM (gKWVE) Don't be silly. Eric and Don Jr. couldn't do that by themselves. They'll need Baron to help. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (cEHXL) 200
188 AI is wiping out certain segments of the music biz. Friends of mine who would work as song writers, or even finishing and developing songs for bands used to be up to their eyebrows in work aren't doing shit anymore because of AI. I was a little doubtful until I saw it demonstrated. A bass player friend of mine grabs his phone, and asks some program to write him a pirate metal song. Poof, in no time there it was. All the lyrics, everything. I was speechless.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9) I read comments like yours, which I absolutely believe, and I go quickly to “ really, what use are people for then”? Maybe especially in the arts and some other areas. The whole AI matter might be a Devolving scenario. Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (PCK5/) 201
Glowbull warmering.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (HTW/d) 202
is it something that the brainiacs built because they wanted to and then foisted upon consumers in order to justify their existence?
Posted by: Oddbob Yes. Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 20, 2025 11:58 AM (a+4eV) 203
What about The Obama College Transcripts Transparency Act?
"Shut up, racist." -- The Left and the Media, BIRM Posted by: Oddbob at November 20, 2025 11:58 AM (3nLb4) 204
Dick Cheney funeral on the TV. How long ago did he die anyway.
Posted by: javems at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (8I4hW) The rituals required to keep him from rising from the grave take some time. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 20, 2025 11:59 AM (pbDcz) 205
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And if I knew how to contact them to complain about it I would. Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (a+4eV) -------------- Sounds like it was outsourced to an Indian company operating withing the US consisting of nothing but H-1B Visa Holders. /Ask me how I know ... Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 11:59 AM (+mTgD) 206
These same arguments were made in the 90s about e-commerce and the internet in general.
Sure there was a bubble and it popped. But it was a temporary blip in what the internet became and the value of the companies who emerged as the winners post bubble. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 20, 2025 12:00 PM (/AUU2) 207
I didvan internet search to ask, "Why does my oven broiler element keep burning out?"
AI to the rescue on the first twenty plus responses. Most included a caution to "Put out the oven fire". Also commen were Wesley explanations on the physical process of a heating element burning out. Hint - like a light bulb. Had to dig down to a Reddit threas that suggested a relay was bad or other controls. Ai is the magic mud machine. It takes mud, adds water and dirt and makes more mud. No matter the issue it will make mud. Galleiao (sp) it is not. Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 20, 2025 12:00 PM (oQt4L) 208
As far as code generation for software development, AI is utter slop, with maybe a 33% success rate.
Posted by: front toward enemy at November 20, 2025 12:00 PM (TIizU) 209
I am sure that ace will get to this later today, or tomorrow, but this seems like kind of a big thing
https://tinyurl.com/ywvfandd Ryan Thorpe, Christopher F. Rufo “The Largest Funder of Al-Shabaab Is the Minnesota Taxpayer” The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums in remittances, or money transfers, from Minnesota to Somalia. According to reports, an estimated 40 percent of households in Somalia get remittances from abroad. In 2023 alone, the Somali diaspora sent back $1.7 billion—more than the Somali government’s budget for that year. Posted by: Kindltot - Trying to stop destroying Western civilization for at least five minutes, you are welcome at November 20, 2025 12:00 PM (rbvCR) 210
Dick Cheney funeral on the TV. How long ago did he die anyway.
Posted by: javems at November 20, 2025 11:52 AM (8I4hW) ------------- I'm surprised they didn't wait for the McCain funeral to end. Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 12:00 PM (+mTgD) 211
We interrupt the previously scheduled John McCain services to briefly show the Dick Cheney memorial
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 20, 2025 12:01 PM (bfwj/) 212
Speaking of Big Ass Jazzy . . .
Jasmine Crockett: Democrats have been too consumed with working to focus on “the propaganda side of things." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 12:01 PM (L/fGl) 213
I hope this damn funeral has an open bar.
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at November 20, 2025 12:01 PM (/hd6E) 214
I admit that I drove around town for quite a while wondering why all the flags were at half staff. ( Interestingly the few Confederate flags in the area were NOT at half staff).
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 12:01 PM (PCK5/) 215
AskOkey is an interesting suit tailor company that supposedly uses AI to generate suit patterns based off all your measurements. https://askokey.com/our-process
He has an interesting YouTube channel as well on suits and men's fashion. Posted by: Moron Analyst at November 20, 2025 12:01 PM (JCZqz) 216
214 I admit that I drove around town for quite a while wondering why all the flags were at half staff. ( Interestingly the few Confederate flags in the area were NOT at half staff).
------------- Snort. Posted by: Pudinhead at November 20, 2025 12:01 PM (Wg6v7) 217
H1-B Indian devs > AI
Posted by: front toward enemy at November 20, 2025 12:02 PM (TIizU) 218
Can AI hem my trousers?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (Wg6v7) 219
The Cheney family is truly being rude to not wait until we're finished.
Posted by: The Paul Wellstone funeral at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (/hd6E) 220
I want that Gordon Gekko phone from that commie propaganda movie "Wall Skreet".
Posted by: Greed Is Good at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (t5X2c) 221
218 Can AI hem my trousers?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (Wg6v7) No, but they can add an extra leg. Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (PCK5/) 222
188 A bass player friend of mine grabs his phone, and asks some program to write him a pirate metal song. Poof, in no time there it was. All the lyrics, everything. I was speechless.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 20, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9) I read comments like yours, which I absolutely believe, and I go quickly to “ really, what use are people for then”? Maybe especially in the arts and some other areas. The whole AI matter might be a Devolving scenario. Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:57 AM (PCK5/) _____ I'm fairly confident that this is how pop and pop-country songs have been written for a while now. Or at least by human AI. I was challenged to write a country song, not knowing much about country. But I did write it. Took maybe 30 mins? Called "Yankee Boy" and it's about a NYC lawyer who gets sent to the south to fix some shit. "But what's a Yankee Boy to do, down shitkicker drive and redneck avenue?" Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/) 223
Jasmine Crockett: Democrats have been too consumed with working to focus on “the propaganda side of things."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Their policies and beliefs are perfect, and exactly what the American people want! They just need to perfect their messaging! For a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses, you'd think they'd have figured out a solution by now, instead of bitching about the same thing for at least 30 years. Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (JCZqz) 224
Heh... I remember a Radio Shack commercial for one of the early models (don't recall if it was Motorola). It used an external battery pack with a shoulder strap, about the size (and probably weight) of a motorcycle battery.
You could feel the effort the actor was making to try to make it look like humping that thing around was No Big Deal. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2025 11:54 AM (IG3/x) Well, the brick phones, or bag phones as they were known to me, were mostly sold as car phones, and used that way. Oil patch workers, like me, ran them in our truck going to and from the rig, and once there, would tote them into our wellsite shack, set up a Yagi antenna on the roof, and snake the cable in through the cable port on the wall. Phone would be plugged into a DC power supply plugged into the wall outlet, which was fed by rig power. If the rig was in a really remote location, it would have a repeater set up atop the derrick. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (npFr7) 225
>>The rituals required to keep him from rising from the grave take some time.
Dick Cheney --> Lich Cheney Posted by: Nazdar at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (NcvvS) 226
Cybersmythe! When did YOU get here?!?!
Posted by: Doof at November 20, 2025 11:32 AM I just got here, but you're gone already. Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (2Insx) 227
Apple is asshoe. They don't let you plug ANYTHING in that doesn't meet their haughtier than thou standards.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 20, 2025 11:49 AM (WYStd) You can buy a converter plug in for Apple that allows you to use the USB devices correct? Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (KDPiq) 228
I looked up a political person to see if they had any kids a couple weeks ago and AI came up first and said no.. The next answer below said yes 2... I can't even remember who it was I was curious about but AI sucks...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (VE6XX) 229
Those who haven't should spend some time playing with a good modern generative AI system (IMO Musk's Grok is the best, and not just because it lets you make pictures with bare boobies).
Don't judge the field by the "customer service" apps... remember, the people who design those are the same ones who gave us the previous shitty "customer service" systems. They're designed to save money, not provide actual customer service. "Your call is important to us". Like fun it is. "We're experiencing an unusually high volume of calls". Don't lie to me, asswipes. And so on. Just sign up for a Grok account and spend, say, half a day playing with it. It's both fun and a little bit scary. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (IG3/x) 230
Do not make the Krugman mistake of "who is ever going to want to buy stuff without going to a store, or read a computer on the train?"
This is a fair point and as a software guy I know that customers often don't know what they want until you show them what they can have. Posted by: Oddbob at November 20, 2025 12:05 PM (3nLb4) 231
Was waiting for Ace but CBD that is too funny
Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2025 12:05 PM (R1GSv) 232
The companies that sell materials, components, and infrastructure TO AI are profitable, and should be for some time.
The companies that ARE AI or AI RELIANT...are huge money pits, and I doubt they will ever be much more than that. AI...isn't. It doesn't "think". Its just a jazzier version of machine learning. Posted by: Crusader at November 20, 2025 12:05 PM (TN0g+) 233
Anyone remember the TV show SeaQuest DSV.
Second season episode named Playtime. The ship is dragged through a time anomaly and ends up 200 yrs in the future where the only human life is one teenage boy and one teenage girl. These two play video games together without ever meeting. They've never been outside. Their game characters are trying to kill each other. The crew of the SeaQuest get them to walk away from the video games and go outdoors where they meet and learn to play catch. With a ball. AI is how they got to this situation. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 20, 2025 12:05 PM (2J/Lj) 234
Hey, if AI kills "green energy" then at least something good will come out of it. My state has announced locations for a new nuclear power plant.
Try to imagine saying that 5 years ago. Posted by: SimoHayek at November 20, 2025 12:05 PM (0Aoc4) 235
Their policies and beliefs are perfect, and exactly what the American people want! They just need to perfect their messaging! For a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses, you'd think they'd have figured out a solution by now, instead of bitching about the same thing for at least 30 years.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 20, 2025 12:04 PM (JCZqz) The problem is their policy is bitching about the same thing every day, which is the same as their message. Posted by: ... at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (J/ft9) 236
As far as code generation for software development, AI is utter slop, with maybe a 33% success rate.
Posted by: front toward enemy at November 20, 2025 12:00 PM (TIizU) ------------ Back when I was programming throughout the '80s - '00s, on mostly "Death March" projects, I think the standard success rate of large software system development was believed to be about 15%; the 85% of failures weren't the result of bad programming as much as poor business analysis & design (and most importantly, patience). A very frustrating career as my constant refrain was "designed and guaranteed to fail ... and working as designed." Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (+mTgD) 237
Thanks to AI, I think in music I think we'll go back to where society was pre-20th century. Except for the true musical geniuses, there was no market for writing songs, just a market for being a skilled performer who could personally entertain people.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (uWKK8) 238
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Shephardizing by hand. The good ol' days! Posted by: LASue Remember when you couldn't trust the flags on the research software? It's still not perfect 25 years later! If that's the AI competency arc, we are in for a lot of collapsing infrastructure Posted by: imp at November 20, 2025 11:55 AM (g6TN6) I don't know. You still really cannot rely on the flags for anything other than dead reckoning. Cases get flagged in ways that are questionable or that require further thought/examination by a person. There's also unflagged cases that should be flagged in some way as well. I like the flags, but if they're analogous to AI, then AI will at best be a helper monkey in law, assuming you can get the hallucinations under control. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (pbDcz) 239
I am OK with doubling the power grid.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (HTW/d) 240
But what's a Yankee Boy to do, down shitkicker drive and redneck avenue?"
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/) Damn I hate NE lawyers. Even the ones I like if that makes sense. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (KDPiq) 241
That we are still using the terms "artificial intelligence" and (even better and/or dumber) "hallucinations" proves that this trend is mostly a bullshit success of *marketing*, so far.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (ULPxl) 242
224 A guy I knew worked for American Greetings, the Birthday card people. He was some kind of district supervisor and rated (a long time ago) a car phone. He said the gear took up about half the trunk of his car and he had to report time used.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (gm9Sb) 243
Can AI make my printer work without whirring, humming, thinking about it and finally declaring "RELOAD PAER" or something about 80% of the time?
Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GUOwU) 244
Candy O doubles down on tranny Mrs. Macron.
Big Ass Jazzy doubles down on Jeffery Epstein. I'm beginning to think they're not too smart. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (L/fGl) 245
Whoa.. The stock market was up 600 this AM and is now down 100.. The Fed must have said something....
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2025 12:08 PM (VE6XX) 246
Wasn't Grok the name of a character in the B.C. comic strip?
(yes, I know I could ask AI, but not gonna) Posted by: Sounds about right at November 20, 2025 12:08 PM (/hd6E) 247
When running my extension cord to the local nuke plant to siphon/ ”borrow” energy, what guage wire should I be using?
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 12:08 PM (PCK5/) 248
Can AI make my printer work without whirring, humming, thinking about it and finally declaring "RELOAD PAER" or something about 80% of the time?
Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GUOwU) Don't ya mean "PC LOAD LETTER"? Posted by: Doof at November 20, 2025 12:08 PM (Ltmlv) 249
The companies that sell materials, components, and infrastructure TO AI are profitable, and should be for some time.
The companies that ARE AI or AI RELIANT...are huge money pits, and I doubt they will ever be much more than that. AI...isn't. It doesn't "think". Its just a jazzier version of machine learning. Posted by: Crusader at November 20, 2025 12:05 PM (TN0g+) ------------- We're in "the picks and shovels" phase of the AI Bubble. Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 12:08 PM (+mTgD) 250
Grog apparently.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 12:09 PM (HTW/d) 251
244 Candy O doubles down on tranny Mrs. Macron.
Big Ass Jazzy doubles down on Jeffery Epstein. I'm beginning to think they're not too smart. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks What do you mean, "they?!?!" Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at November 20, 2025 12:09 PM (JCZqz) 252
I use AI every day both for work and personally. The time saving is incredible.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 20, 2025 12:09 PM (/AUU2) 253
Our flags stay at half staff more than they stay at full staff anymore. Can't we have a day once a year when we put them at half staff for everyone who passed away? Like Memorial Day.
Posted by: Case at November 20, 2025 12:09 PM (5Je/N) 254
But what's a Yankee Boy to do, down shitkicker drive and redneck avenue?"
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 12:03 PM (iFTx/) Damn I hate NE lawyers. Even the ones I like if that makes sense. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (KDPiq) ________ The song is biographical. The lawyer ends up going down south and meets a hot southern girl. It's part of the reason I was able to write it so fast. It actually happened. Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/) 255
245 Whoa.. The stock market was up 600 this AM and is now down 100.. The Fed must have said something....
Posted by: It's me donna Orange Man very bad. Posted by: Jerome Powell at November 20, 2025 12:11 PM (JCZqz) 256
"Our flags stay at half staff more than they stay at full staff anymore. Can't we have a day once a year when we put them at half staff for everyone who passed away? Like Memorial Day."
They are still at half mast for American Hero Sen. John McCain Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2025 12:11 PM (GUOwU) 257
253 Our flags stay at half staff more than they stay at full staff anymore. Can't we have a day once a year when we put them at half staff for everyone who passed away? Like Memorial Day.
-------------- You could do that but it would cause a yuge demand for plaques and ceremonies. Posted by: Pudinhead at November 20, 2025 12:11 PM (Wg6v7) 258
Didnt yhey use to create 3 or 4 hundred thousand jobs a month?
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 12:12 PM (HTW/d) 259
Can AI make my printer work without whirring, humming, thinking about it and finally declaring "RELOAD PAER" or something about 80% of the time?
Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GUOwU) The absolute worst part of computer printers is the paper handling. Misfeeds, jams, etc. I wish some printer manufacturer would come out with an updated clone of the old HP Paintjet, with tractor-feed paper. They just plain worked. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 12:12 PM (npFr7) 260
Hey, if AI kills "green energy" then at least something good will come out of it. My state has announced locations for a new nuclear power plant. Try to imagine saying that 5 years ago. Posted by: SimoHayek Y'know, that's a fair point. We've needed to get back to nukes for a while now, and with no path to sidestep the filthy hippies until AI hit the boards Posted by: imp at November 20, 2025 12:13 PM (g6TN6) 261
The best part of the AI boom is it is making the tech oligarchs back away from all the global warming crap they claim to believe in
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 12:13 PM (sKqQm) 262
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
I spent 8 years as a Southern ‘redneck’ living in N.Y. and dealing with NE attorneys every day , mine and the opposition’s. So my feelings are also biographical. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 12:13 PM (KDPiq) 263
>>> 259 Can AI make my printer work without whirring, humming, thinking about it and finally declaring "RELOAD PAER" or something about 80% of the time?
Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2025 12:07 PM (GUOwU) The absolute worst part of computer printers is the paper handling. Misfeeds, jams, etc. I wish some printer manufacturer would come out with an updated clone of the old HP Paintjet, with tractor-feed paper. They just plain worked. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 12:12 PM (npFr7) *tee hee* Posted by: planned obsolescence at November 20, 2025 12:13 PM (ULPxl) 264
I use AI every day both for work and personally. The time saving is incredible.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 20, 2025 12:09 PM (/AUU2) Aha! Explains a lot. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2025 12:14 PM (npFr7) 265
Our pixel screens mesmerize. People are so easily led. So many want to be told what to do and what to think. It’s a warm and cozy safe place when huddled around screens with right thinking people. Confirmation Bias flowers. Hmmm. I’m going to avoid Mirrors today.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:38 AM (PCK5/) Soma. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 20, 2025 12:14 PM (dK+Kv) 266
Candy O doubles down on tranny Mrs. Macron.
Its a bad time to be a masculine looking woman. Though, she's not that masculine looking like say Big Mike Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 12:15 PM (sKqQm) 267
Kevin Spacey says he's now homeless. Maybe, but not homoless.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 12:15 PM (L/fGl) 268
248 Can AI make my printer work without whirring, humming, thinking about it and finally declaring "RELOAD PAER" or something about 80% of the time?
Posted by: Ripley --- The color you never use ink cartridge is dry - must replace all cartridges for machine to work. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 12:16 PM (743lG) 269
Kevin Spacey says he's now homeless. Maybe, but not homoless.
Maybe he shouldn't have assaults then murdered those kids? Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 12:16 PM (sKqQm) 270
Its a bad time to be a masculine looking woman. Though, she's not that masculine looking like say Big Mike
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2025 12:15 PM (sKqQm) She is looking more and more like Teal'c every day. She is going to have to give up and go and get that gold sigil embossed on her forehead soon. Posted by: Kindltot - Trying to stop destroying Western civilization for at least five minutes, you are welcome at November 20, 2025 12:16 PM (rbvCR) 271
"The absolute worst part of computer printers is the paper handling. Misfeeds, jams, etc.
I wish some printer manufacturer would come out with an updated clone of the old HP Paintjet, with tractor-feed paper. They just plain worked. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peo"n The desktop printers of 30 years ago, which lacked all the bells and whistles seemed to me to be faster and less error prone than those today. Also the ink cartridges lasted far longer. Posted by: Ripley at November 20, 2025 12:17 PM (GUOwU) 272
Kevin Spacey says he's now homeless. Maybe, but not homoless.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 12:15 PM (L/fGl) He’s got no residuals coming in? He should have gotten into TV instead of movies. Posted by: the way I see it at November 20, 2025 12:17 PM (KDPiq) 273
I wanted to try my hand at generating a short scripted video.
Grok told me, I only do text, but listed tools & free sites I could use to roll my own. Grok-Imagine looked promising, but after filling in all the parameters and uploading the script, it went to the price$ page. No thanks, trillionaire Elon. You already get too much from my having StarLink. I looked up Sora, but that wants me to download an "app" onto my poor struggling laptop. Maybe I will, after I find out how much memory etc it's going to suck up. My free time and brain power for researching this is limited. There must be a video generator out there that works online for free. Isn't there? Posted by: mindful webworker - struggling to enter the 2020s at November 20, 2025 12:17 PM (LyKyF) 274
You still really cannot rely on the flags for anything other than dead reckoning. *** Posted by: bear with asymmetrical ball That's what I mean. You really have to understand the 4 or 5 most relevant cases at a fundamental level and then pull up the "Cited by" list and go through the most in depth discussions individually. THEN you might have an idea what the case means in a given jurisdiction. But when we have gods-on-earth District Court Art III judges issuing AI hallucinated orders, we are well and truly screwed. Posted by: imp at November 20, 2025 12:18 PM (g6TN6) 275
Speaking of not too smart . . .
Aftyn Behn-- the Democrat nominee for the upcoming TN07 special election-- says that she despises Nashville, the city that she's running to represent in Congress: “I hate the city, I hate the bachelorettes, I hate the pedal taverns, I hate country music, I hate all of the things that make Nashville. I hate it." https://is.gd/doCrPV Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (L/fGl) 276
Why doesn't that french broad just put a nekkid pic on the interboob showing off her hooha?
You know she wants to. Posted by: Stank Ho gonna Stank Ho at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (t5X2c) 277
Newd.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (HTW/d) 278
> 237 Thanks to AI, I think in music I think we'll go back to where society was pre-20th century.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2025 12:06 PM (uWKK Copyright, as we know it, is dead. It's been dead for a few decades; the corpse is just still twitching a bit. Before the Statute of Anne in 1710, there really wasn't such a thing... people would get paid for singing, or putting on plays, or painting a picture, but the idea that you could legally prevent someone else from singing the same song etc. just didn't exist. It's really an artificial construct. Just about every society has the concept of real and personal property that belong to some identifiable individual who has the exclusive right to that property, the concept that Murder is Bad, the concept that Adultery is Bad, etc. Now, what counts as, say, murder or adultery varies. Is it legal to kill someone who's boning your spouse? That depends on the society. But the base concept is almost always there. Copyright is a weird concept that's was only enforceable because making copies was difficult and expensive. Now that anyone can make perfect copies for essentially free, it's dead, dead, dead. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (IG3/x) 279
Nood.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (cEHXL) 280
>>>masculine looking like say Big Mike
Posted by: 18-1 --- You do not understand the true beauty of a full black woman. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (743lG) 281
265 Our pixel screens mesmerize. People are so easily led. So many want to be told what to do and what to think. It’s a warm and cozy safe place when huddled around screens with right thinking people. Confirmation Bias flowers. Hmmm. I’m going to avoid Mirrors today.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 11:38 AM (PCK5/) Soma. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 20, 2025 12:14 PM (dK+Kv) A book for our time, ignored, mostly. Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (PCK5/) 282
Kevin Spacey says he's now homeless. Maybe, but not homoless.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 20, 2025 12:15 PM (L/fGl) _____ He'll end up in bankruptcy. Paid out millions and millions in legal fees for all the sex lawsuits, even though he was acquitted of the criminal charges and to date not found liable on any civil claims. I'm not sure if any more charges are pending. Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (iFTx/) 283
The conversion of brick phones to smart phones requires visionaries such as Steve Jobs et al.
No visionaries at Apple today -- just MBAs milking a cash cow -- and Asians who can cut and paste, but cant innovate Musk is the only visionary around today, and they're crucifying him for it. Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 20, 2025 12:19 PM (wBaIH) 284
Kevin Spacey says he's now homeless. Maybe, but not homoless.
------------ His life collapsed like A House Of Cards? Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 20, 2025 12:20 PM (+mTgD) 285
Oh is that why flags were dow, for Cheney? Lol.
I was trying to figure out what it was. I thought it was a school shooting or something. They’re down so often, it’s meaningless. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 20, 2025 12:20 PM (/AUU2) Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 20, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/) Posted by: imp at November 20, 2025 12:21 PM (g6TN6) 288
The more AI is utilized especially in business and white collar areas, there will be a widening dearth of experienced professionals because the entry level areas in which newbies learned the ropes will be eaten up with AI. Basic level research, analysis, planning, writing, thinking problem-solving will be outsourced and people will not be developing their brains with the necessary fundamentals. Now, there is a lot of bullshit busy work that goes into the mix that gets punted to the first-year kid because nobody else wants to do it, but the way I see it this could very well saw the first few rungs off the knowledge ladder without providing a means to grasp what is not the lowest rung.
Posted by: And the boomers will still complain nobody wants to work anymore at November 20, 2025 12:21 PM (TbWk/) 289
*now* the lowest rung
Posted by: Entry level, 5 years exp still required at November 20, 2025 12:22 PM (TbWk/) 290
285 I drove by Auto Row, where all the car lots are and flags were at half staff. Thought that the Pinto was making a comeback.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 20, 2025 12:24 PM (gm9Sb) 291
It's funny how people denigrate AI against completely unrealistic idealized performance of non-AI systems.
AI is shit at hokey because it could never beat the 1980 US Olympic hockey team. Posted by: pawn at November 20, 2025 12:26 PM (sPsWv) 292
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times..
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 20, 2025 12:36 PM (jc0TO) 293
Bubbles, she is the joy and laughter.
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