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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | An Originalist Take on Movies and Memoirs [Lex]Constitutional purists, in the main, adhere to the judicial philosophy of ‘originalism.’ That is, they do not believe the Constitution and its Amendments are evolving or subject to change in meaning based on the mood of the times. They try to understand the contemporaneous intent of the words by those who wrote them. In the field of criticism, a close cousin to originalism is textualism or new criticism. The proponents of new criticism, when looking at literature or poetry or film, tend not to want to be distracted by anything but words on the page or images and dialogue on the screen. So it matters little to the textualist if a movie might seem racist by today’s standards or if it is a faithful adaptation of the source material. The new critic eschews these considerations to concentrate only on what he can see on the screen and judges the film by what it is trying to accomplish. I kept coming back to these models of interpretation when reading Barry Diller’s recently published memoir Who Knew. Even though I have devoted a large part of my life to cinema, I have never much liked behind the scenes stories or biographies of stars and studio moguls. I knew the name Barry Diller but almost nothing about what he accomplished. And that is because I see many memoirs and tell-alls as distractions. The play is the thing for me.You can read the book to learn about Diller (in his own words) but, briefly, he was an aimless and troubled kid from Beverly Hills who grew up around Hollywood performers and executives. At 19, with no life direction, he called in a favor to get a job in the mail room at the William Morris talent agency. He worked his way up the ranks at William Morris but then leapt over to ABC where he impacted television in profound ways. Next it was on to Paramount where he resurrected that studio in the 1970s. After that, it was Fox, which he also revived. In his later years, he became a forerunner of internet commerce and content. If you are a film and entertainment historian, you cannot ignore Diller’s legacy, though this begs the question: as one who leans towards textualism when watching movies, should I ignore him? To give Diller the benefit of the doubt, I set aside the originalist lens to see what he had to say. Right out of the gate, Diller disappoints. In the foreword, he declares he does not intend the book to be a teaching or business strategy guide (a la The Art of the Deal). The reason he states he wrote the memoir is, simply, because he thinks his life-story worth recounting. ‘Who Knew’ an angst-ridden kid with no education or prospects could succeed as he did. The wayward-boy-makes-good story is interesting to a point, but what movies inspired him? What novels have moved him? Why did he want to become involved in storytelling--especially at such a grand scale? Despite his disclaimers, I held out hope I could derive something inspirational from a man who helped shape studios and motion pictures for three decades. And yet, after 320 pages, I was unsure what attracted him to fictional drama. He repeatedly affirms his love of problem solving, and in the film biz problems abound, but that tells me nothing about his process as a storyteller. He also is not shy about sharing his distaste for MBA-style financial projections as an approach to crafting a successful film, and he is adamant in his disdain for the practice of packaging stars and material before ideas are hammered out. I agree with those instincts, but Diller never digs deeper than that. Though he is responsible for some of the great movies in history, he has precious little to say about why they were special or what he understood their dramatic purpose to be. Oftentimes, he will crow about a hit movie he produced but only to say it did well at the box office or won awards--not why it connected with audiences and what his hand was in setting the table for that connection to be made. There are nuggets of wisdom in the book, but it is far too little, and as I read on, more and more, I was not only deprived of edification, but I also distrusted Diller. I do not read many memoirs (movie ones or otherwise) because they are, ipso facto, self-serving. Diller confirms this instinct by painting himself in the best possible light. He feigns humility frequently, but like the screenwriting seminars teach us: to write a great villain you must make the bad guy believe he is the hero of the story. I am not saying Diller is a villain, but having dedicated his life to one of the most cutthroat businesses, too often he styles himself as merely an amiable –though driven — fixer. These moments of doubt I had for his authenticity occurred not just with his professional life but also in the many personal things he reveals. He spends much of the first third of the book discussing his homosexuality, how he had to hide it, be ashamed of it, how it caused him panic and self-loathing. One sympathizes with him, but then, in his thirties he meets the fashion mogul and bon vivant Diane von Furstenburg, and it is a love affair for the ages. He is smitten with her but clueless about how to be a heterosexual romantic. On her 29th birthday he gets her 29 diamonds; yet, he presents them to her in a Band-Aid box. It is supposed to be an adorable tidbit about his inartful amorousness, but any sympathy I had for him in the early going – as a closeted and confused youth — falls by the wayside as he never seems to mention this again, instead opting for tales of opulent jet setting with Furstenburg. These personal notes about Diller are probably not germane to my pursuit of a better understanding of movies, but they did confirm my belief that too often Hollywood memoirs and histories are more of the TMZ, gossip-style flavor and thus not very useful to the serious cinephile. And as for Diller himself, in the end, I concluded he was not really dedicated to telling great stories. TV and movies just happened to be the milieu into which he stumbled. He clearly had a knack for getting things done, and, though he tries to disguise it, there was great appeal in the flamboyant lifestyle his success afforded him. For anyone who wants to be involved with or write about movies, basic cinema history is necessary to learn. Of course it’s fun to know Kurt Russell was in the running to play Han Solo or to point out the cameos Hitchcock made in his movies, but, in the dark of the theater what good do these asides do for my relationship with and reaction to any given film? Diller’s memoir and others like might fill in the blanks historically speaking, but they have no pedagogical or etiological value. It will be a long time before I pick up another book like Who Knew. I would rather watch movies and absorb what I can in the moment. I recognize it would be difficult for film reviewers and historians to write anything if they employed new criticism or textualism in its strictest sense. But Constitutional originalism has taught us some of the most important lessons in American and world history. Applying some of its spirit to the study of film might not be that bad of an idea. 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Of course it's fun to know Kurt Russell was in the running to play Han Solo
I did not know that. I think he would have done well. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 07:36 PM (ULPxl) 2
Speaking of Kurt Russell... It must have been some sort of agreement/deal or something, but Kurt did a real TV commercial for the owner of the used car lot, Darner Chrysler, the movie used for its main location. https://is.gd/nrWEed Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 07:37 PM (1sPEU) 3
Good evening everyone
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:39 PM (Ia/+0) 4
I think of him as TV not movies.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 07:41 PM (9ipOP) 5
Relation to Phyllis Diller?
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:41 PM (LHPAg) 6
Now I'm curious if there was a co-writer (uncredited) for this autobiography, and if there are others who might have done a better job of getting something interesting out of this Diller guy.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 07:41 PM (ULPxl) 7
David Spade’s autobiography, Almost Interesting is a short and funny read. It’s the only ‘Hollywood’ book I’ve read.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 07:44 PM (KDPiq) 8
Hey everybody. Hey movie thread.
Re the message about originalism: I'm probably not understanding it correctly, but I will say that there are some films that have such an old, outdated POV, they're just not enjoyable today. There's no way I could enjoy the film The Birth Of A Nation, from 1916, for instance. It is just way too steeped in the old, frankly racist attitudes of people like D.W. Griffith. I'm imagine most others here feel the same way. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:44 PM (uZFV0) 9
Except kurt as a teen actor would have been more like luke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr) 10
Thats why plissken was a surprise from his earlier roles
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr) 11
"I knew the name Barry Diller but almost nothing about what he accomplished."
That's how I felt after reading the post. Went to IMDb but it was little help. "impacted television in profound ways" "responsible for some of the great movies in history" I'll take your word for it. I'm not a movie geek. I'm even content watching lowbrow freebie films via YouToob. Lately watched… well, never mind. Don't want to sully the classy movies post with my indulgences. 😁 Posted by: mindful webworker - rotoscoping reality at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (LaTF/) 12
It's hard to find an autobiography by anyone that IMHO is truly insightful. It takes another person's uncompromising perspective on your life, to tell the whole truth.
One bio I want to read is H.W. Brands' volume on the life of Andrew Jackson. I can't help but wonder: given how ornery and quick-tempered he was, was Mr. Jackson insightful at all about himself? Would he have admitted he could be a nasty old cuss a lot of the time? Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (uZFV0) 13
Vale Tom Stoppard, who has died aged 88.
Did scripts for Empire of the Sun, Last Crusade and Brazil, all of which I liked. Posted by: Bruce of Newcastle at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (XBBgc) 14
Except kurt as a teen actor would have been more like luke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr) Kurt was mid-20s in 1977. He would have worked as Han. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (0aYVJ) 15
Maybe the only autobiography that is real is from someone who has died
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (Ia/+0) 16
Bruce: Mick Jagger actually wrote online today, in memoriam of Tom Stoppard.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (uZFV0) 17
>>>On her 29th birthday he gets her 29 diamonds; yet, he presents them to her in a Band-Aid box.
IIRC, Dr. Szell in Marathon Man, had at least some of his diamonds in a Band-Aid tin. I don't know how the timeline of the release of the movie (or the novel) lines up with Diller's gift or if he was in some way inspired by it. Since he was in the entertainment business, who knows. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (syz1S) 18
>>> 9 Except kurt as a teen actor would have been more like luke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr) Both Russell and Hamill were born in 1951. Harrison Ford was born in 1942. (I had to look them up) Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (ULPxl) 19
well, never mind. Don't want to sully the classy movies post with my indulgences
----- Go ahead. I'm watching "Twisted Metal". Lowbrow post-apocalyptic road warrior comedy. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V) 20
My 2nd cousin works for the William Morris Agency. We call her "Hollywood." She has represented the likes of Jimmy Kimmel and Kelly Clarkson (who she just loves despite her politics) among many others. My cuz is a former Lib turned MAGA Republican who eventually had to leave Hollywood due to her rightie politics, tired of living in mortal fear of being "found out" and cancelled. She moved to outside of Nashville and now represents country artists, and is so much happier. Her parents are former long-time San Fran hippies (my Aunt, her mother, worked for The Jefferson Airplane and later Hot Tuna and is a close personal friend of Jorma Kaukonen) who turned MAGA circa 2016 and who also moved to Tennessee, and are born-again Christians.
My cuz was born deaf but regained most of her hearing thanks to the same cochlear implant that Rush Limbaugh had. We're so proud of her accomplishments and personally I'm so proud of how she's managed to get out of Cali and still do her job, which she loves, while getting to be her true self. Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 07:50 PM (NhiOW) 21
"It's hard to find an autobiography by anyone that IMHO is truly insightful. It takes another person's uncompromising perspective on your life, to tell the whole truth."
Grant wrote his with coaching from Samuel Clemens. I think most of it though was all Grant's writings. Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:50 PM (vFG9F) 22
Originalism, The Chosen.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:52 PM (sDNVV) 23
Delurker:
Jorma Kaukonen seems like a really good guy. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:52 PM (uZFV0) 24
I thought maybe Stoppard also wrote on of my favorite plays on tv, "The Norman Conquests", but that was Alan Ayckbourn. Very funny.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 07:52 PM (kpS4V) 25
Grant wrote his with coaching from Samuel Clemens. I think most of it though was all Grant's writings.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 --- I'm reading the Chernow biography, and Twain said he did not, that Grant had a wonderfully lean and direct style that needed little editing. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 07:55 PM (kpS4V) 26
Im speaking of the type harrison had shown somr of the same attitude in graffitti
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:55 PM (bXbFr) 27
But I did actually go to a genuine popcorn-fumed theater last week.
Watched Sarah's Oil, about old Oklahoma that actually was filmed in Oklahoma and looks like it. No snow-capped mountains in the background. Pretty muich on-the-nose depictions of race relations, including AmerIndian tribes. And, yes, many bigoted, creepy, and criminal White guys, but lots of them were. Dramatized "true story," certainly, but moving. IMDb: "The remarkable true story of eleven year old Sarah Rector, an African American girl born in Oklahoma Indian Territory in the early 1900s, who believes there is oil beneath the barren land she's allotted…" Posted by: mindful webworker - white and black hats at November 29, 2025 07:57 PM (LaTF/) 28
Christmas with Prometheus.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 07:57 PM (Kt19C) 29
23 Delurker:
Jorma Kaukonen seems like a really good guy. That's what my aunt tells me. She really loves him him. She has some great living-room jams assembled onto tape that I have copies of. Must have been awesome to have been sitting there next to hm as they were recorded. She didn't like Grace Slick so much though LOL. Major alcohol issues. Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 07:58 PM (NhiOW) 30
Clemens acted as much more than an editor for Grant and that's kind of what I meant by coaching. If not for him Grant would have been really screwed by his publisher.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:58 PM (vFG9F) 31
Russell in Soldier.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:59 PM (LHPAg) 32
It was around the samr time of release as marathon man
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:59 PM (bXbFr) 33
My bedtime
Have a goof night everyone Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 08:02 PM (Ia/+0) 34
I've got Twain's and Grant's biographies right here in front of me. It's been a long time since I read Twain's but it's pretty dark in places and I don't know that I need to read it again. The subject may be a good book thread topic.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 08:02 PM (vFG9F) 35
Speaking of movies, Devil Doll is on Svengoolie. It's the one with the creepy dummy.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 08:04 PM (vFG9F) 36
Russells role in soldier is as earnest as his pre plissken roles in a different context
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:06 PM (bXbFr) 37
I miss Saturday Night at the Movies.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 08:07 PM (sDNVV) Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:08 PM (q3u5l) 39
Wish there was some legal way for all of us to watch a film together, here on the blog.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 08:09 PM (uZFV0) 40
I was going to go down to the DIA theater to see CatVideoFest 2025 tomorrow, but snowmageddon will probably put a stop to that.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 08:09 PM (kpS4V) 41
Have to check out Devil Doll. I know the name from the Italian-Slovenian weirdo-cult-rock band formed in 1987 by the mysterious "Mr. Doctor" and named after the movie.
Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 08:10 PM (NhiOW) 42
I mix that one up with the trilogy of terror
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr) 43
Which really seems silly on repeated viewings
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:15 PM (bXbFr) 44
This sounds about as exciting as trying to read War and Peace with SCUDs inbound and you are at MOPP4.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 08:15 PM (nhv81) 45
Speaking of movies, Devil Doll is on Svengoolie. It's the one with the creepy dummy.
They made a movie about Joey Bidet? Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 08:16 PM (nhv81) 46
qdpsteve --
Only way I can think of to do something like that would be to pick something that's out there for free viewing on a site like TubiTV and let the Hordelings start watching. Lets out quite a few classics, but there's a decent amount of good stuff to be found there. And of course, if we're up for Terrifier 2, Tubi has us covered. Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:16 PM (q3u5l) 47
Ovation had a classic bond series which they use to air on sundays on abc before cable was big
The man with the golden one was the firsr one i remember Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr) 48
First world problem. Arrrgh! Spectrum cable remote/setup is soooo complicated to me! No movies, whatever tonight, tech to arrive Monday to coach me. Grrrr!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 08:17 PM (Kt19C) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 29, 2025 08:17 PM (LjSYW) 50
Gun (with christopher lee) and weirdly herve viliechaise
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:18 PM (bXbFr) 51
I found on YouTube a copy of 55 Days at Peiking. All the titles are cut and in a few spots the sound drops out.
"It doesn't take a military genius to crawl through the sewers." Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 08:18 PM (nhv81) 52
They aired thosr films this week
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:19 PM (bXbFr) 53
That was probably the first role i saw him in
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:19 PM (bXbFr) Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr) 55
Just Some Guy, thanks for the tip. :-)
Do they have Scarlet Street? Great 1949 noir flick directed by Fritz Lang. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 08:22 PM (uZFV0) 56
qdpsteve re Scarlet Street
Yes, they do. There'll be a few interruptions for ads during the flick, but it's there. Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:25 PM (q3u5l) Processing 0.01, elapsed 0.014 seconds. |
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