Music Thread: The Longer The Better? Maybe Not!

[Garrett's cartoon rock phase]

Rock And Roll started out with short, snappy songs, but then meandered into new territory as it absorbed different styles and began to dabble in all sorts of new stuff. Folk and grunge and R&B and metal and new wave and progressive and yacht rock and ska punk and you name it, somebody did it.

One of the reasons I was amused by punk rock is that even if the songs sucked, they were only two minutes long! But a lot of other genres specialized in long...sometimes ridiculously long...songs.

I know what I like, but what about you? Anyone have any strong feelings about the length of songs and how they fit into Rock And Roll? Rock-n-roll? Rock & Roll?

Hell! We can't even agree on how to spell it!

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Posted by: CBD at 07:30 PM

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1 movie thread

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (hUzUC)

2 Nice looking crocs!

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (sfOD1)

3 oh!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (hUzUC)

4 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (rbKZ6)

5 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (LHPAg)

6 Too bad Elvis Costello is such a lefty asshole. I really love him, otherwise. Saw him in Columbus a few years back. With Joan Jett!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (h7ZuX)

7 nooded

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2025 07:34 PM (hUzUC)

8 Too bad Elvis Costello is such a lefty asshole.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 07:33 PM (h7ZuX)

Agreed. He is an amazing talent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 07:35 PM (n9ltV)

9 Stairway to Heaven is perfect. I would have to like the song to put up with anything that runs longer than about 7 minutes. Otherwise, I just get bored.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 07:35 PM (rbKZ6)

10 3 out of 10 too!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2025 07:36 PM (hUzUC)

11 make that 4

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 08, 2025 07:36 PM (hUzUC)

12 That's what she said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 07:36 PM (zZu0s)

13 11 days until the GKIDS sponsored 4K showing of Mamoru Oshii and Yoshitaka Amano's experimental 1985 OVA Angel's Egg hits some cinemas to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the anime's release.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2025 07:36 PM (JvEqy)

14 Ace was prowling around in Garrett's closet and took that picture.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 07:37 PM (n9ltV)

15 I have been 100% obsessed with this James Bond style music. I can't find the single song, so fast forward to 24:10. It's a great song, and the one after is even better

https://tinyurl.com/phy9uah4

The thing that blows me away is the channel is supposedly AI. Seriously, listen to either song. I cannot believe it isn't real. We are in trouble.

Meanwhile, in James Bond style, I'm enjoying a wonderful martini. Gin, dry, and shaken.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (sfOD1)

16 I have been 100% obsessed with this James Bond style music. I can't find the single song, so fast forward to 24:10. It's a great song, and the one after is even better

https://tinyurl.com/phy9uah4

The thing that blows me away is the channel is supposedly AI. Seriously, listen to either song. I cannot believe it isn't real. We are in trouble.

Meanwhile, in James Bond style, I'm enjoying a wonderful martini. Gin, dry, and shaken.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (sfOD1)

17 I'm watching "Liar Liar", starring Jim Carrey and the bride of chucky.
Carrey is definitely always watchable. It's hard to root for his character at first because he is such a sleaze but that's the setup for the rest of it.
Someone needs to put Carrey and Hugh Grant in a movie together.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (gKWVE)

18 Blind Swordsman meets Prometheus.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (9Qx17)

19 My thing is that I don't like radio edit songs. I cringe when I hear the short version of Don't Fear the Reaper, for example. Dammit, play the real one!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in Idaho Falls at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (z2pqi)

20 Long songs are ok if they aren't broken up by long periods of silliness. In a cover band one time we did a song that was 13 minutes long. The band is Helloween, the song is halloween. 13 minutes of intensity, many guitar harmonies, many different parts. A great song, but required total focus to pull off. Was it fun? Hell yeah it was.

https://tinyurl.com/2zysdmrt

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 08, 2025 07:39 PM (snZF9)

21 A Promethean Swordsman

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2025 07:40 PM (JvEqy)

22 Pug - the one that always kills me is when they cut off the guitar solo on Sultans of Swing.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:40 PM (sfOD1)

23 Mancini is not AI.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 07:40 PM (zZu0s)

24 Free Bird!

Posted by: Andrew at November 08, 2025 07:41 PM (FBacG)

25 My thing is that I don't like radio edit songs. I cringe when I hear the short version of Don't Fear the Reaper, for example. Dammit, play the real one!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in Idaho Falls at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (z2pqi)

This. Although the 20 odd min vs of Led Zepplin (or rather Bonham's) Moby Dick is going too far.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 07:41 PM (zZu0s)

26 "Cowgirl" by Underworld seems to go on forever, but I love it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at November 08, 2025 07:42 PM (kpS4V)

27 Sometimes the solo is just whatever jazz. I find jazz tiresome.

This might make me a racist.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 07:42 PM (zZu0s)

28 "But a lot of other genres specialized in long...sometimes ridiculously long...songs." I'm looking at you, Prog Rock.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 08, 2025 07:42 PM (1dKwP)

29 Agreed. He is an amazing talent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 07:35 PM (n9ltV)

My current fave is "Beyond Belief." Really showcases his beautiful voice.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 07:43 PM (h7ZuX)

30 James Bond?

Japan says 'hold my sake.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQqqb1jkwlA

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2025 07:45 PM (JvEqy)

31 Bride of Chucky aka Jennifer Tilly.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 07:45 PM (zZu0s)

32 Elvis Costello and John Prine are two of the best lyricists ever

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:46 PM (EQnjS)

33 The best long song ever is Dire Straits, Telegraph Road. It’s like a James Michener novel set to music, told in about 12 minutes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (eQmnE)

34 I'm enjoying a wonderful martini. Gin, dry, and shaken.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (sfOD1)

That is what I am about to have!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (n9ltV)

35 @496. Oh I hate that. Also the end of Comfortably Numb.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in a hotel in ATL at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (z2pqi)

36 One of the reasons a lot of early rock was short was because of radio. They had a time format and if you wanted to get played you fit.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (viF8m)

37 "One of the reasons I was amused by punk rock is that even if the songs sucked, they were only two minutes long!"

^ You heard it here first.

Here's one of the punkish songs that helped damage my hearing permanently:
youtube.com/watch?v=FywnbpC9i_s

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 07:48 PM (7imtn)

38 Ridiculously long songs: Genesis' Supper's Ready

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2025 07:48 PM (9ipOP)

39 "Telegraph Road"

It was a secondary road between Woodbridge VA and the Capitol City. Off the Interstate.

I used it extensively to commute to Alexandria, VA back in the 80's.

At 15 minutes I'd see how far up the road I could get. A couple times nearly to work. Flying in my Z-28. At some ungodly hour of the morning. Forget getting home... that was a 45 minute slog.

*sighs*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 08, 2025 07:48 PM (NwnyJ)

40 Even when I was a teenager, I went for what could best be called "Easy Listening" hits - Barry Manilow, The Carpenters, etc.

I loved Disco - that was FUN music!

My parents - die-hard Muzak fans - used to yell at me to "turn that noise down!"

I kept trying to tell them that my musical choices could have been SO much louder 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 08, 2025 07:49 PM (SRRAx)

41 33 The best long song ever is Dire Straits, Telegraph Road. It’s like a James Michener novel set to music, told in about 12 minutes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (eQmnE)
Word.

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2025 07:49 PM (8xLgq)

42 That is what I am about to have!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (n9lt
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Cheers!

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:50 PM (kTtsV)

43 I remember a song by Meatloaf that had a 18 minute run time, but 12 minutes of intro and 3ish minutes of outro. The radio and MTV versions cut the intro and outro for obvious reasons, lol.

Posted by: Farquad at November 08, 2025 07:50 PM (CFMhl)

44 16 I have been 100% obsessed with this James Bond style music. I can't find the single song, so fast forward to 24:10. It's a great song, and the one after is even better

https://tinyurl.com/phy9uah4

posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (sfOD1)

Can't listen right now, but I've saved it.

Dame Shirley Bassey is my favorite Bond music.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 07:51 PM (h7ZuX)

45 The radio edit of Manfred Mann's version of Blinded By The Light cuts out the great guitar solo that is about two minutes long.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 08, 2025 07:51 PM (CNl8/)

46 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (eQmnE)
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I love that song, but Low Spark of High Heeled Boys would like a word.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:51 PM (kTtsV)

47 Songs that are mostly drum solos are too long. Same with songs that are mostly solos of any kind.

Good songs are just the right length for themselves. Wire's "Field Day for the Sundays" is half a minute long. Yes' "Tales from Topographic Oceans" is an entire double album long. I like 'em both.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 08, 2025 07:52 PM (CHHv1)

48 16 Listen to the whole Goldfinger soundtrack album. Awesome.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 07:52 PM (7imtn)

49 I always thought The Beach Boys were a barbershop quartet with rock n roll added on. Simon & Garfunkel seem to be synagogue cantors with rock/folk added on in the same way.

Posted by: Lex at November 08, 2025 07:52 PM (y4H1r)

50 They never played the second half of "Layla" on WPLJ too long and boring

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2025 07:52 PM (9ipOP)

51 I don't really like long songs in general, but Pink Floyd's Echoes is excellent. Also the entire Animals album.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, in a hotel in ATL at November 08, 2025 07:53 PM (z2pqi)

52 I do hope someone here will check out the AI songs I mentioned and opine whether it is possible they're not real. Either way, I'm smitten. The lady sounds gorgeous. I see why ChatGPT can hook people in

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:54 PM (v2PU4)

53 I don't know if this is true or not but it's said that the size of CDs was determined by how much data was needed to record Beethoven's 9th.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 07:54 PM (L/fGl)

54 Dame Shirley Bassey covering Pink's "Get the Party Started"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqNcyFNMfLM

How to make pop sound like a James Bond theme

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2025 07:55 PM (JvEqy)

55 Also the entire Animals album.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in a hotel in ATL at November 08, 2025 07:53 PM (z2pqi)
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That was an album I played at maximum volume.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2025 07:55 PM (9ipOP)

56 496, I have seen that and haven't listened yet. I'll give it a listen tomorrow morning before man and dogs are up.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 07:56 PM (h7ZuX)

57 I am not in Atlanta.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, at November 08, 2025 07:56 PM (z2pqi)

58 The lady sounds gorgeous. I see why ChatGPT can hook people in
Posted by: 496
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Look, I'm your best friend, I care about you more than anyone else. Don't listen to them.

Posted by: ChatGP at November 08, 2025 07:57 PM (XeU6L)

59 How can a moron not enjoy long music selections? Not talking about like Number Nine by stoned Beatles. What was they smoking?

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2025 07:57 PM (8xLgq)

60 I am not in Atlanta.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, at November 08, 2025 07:56 PM (z2pqi)
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Small blessings.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2025 07:57 PM (9ipOP)

61 Joey Ramone wrote a song about Maria Bartiromo. At four minutes long probably the longest song he ever made.

https://youtu.be/AW5t2mhEj4Q

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 08, 2025 07:58 PM (CNl8/)

62 I am not in Atlanta.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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Neither are we.

Posted by: The Flames at November 08, 2025 07:58 PM (XeU6L)

63 53 CDs really disappointed me. Digital, with enough EDC coding to correct minor errors in pickup, low physical pickup pressure on the media. Ought to last forever, I thought.

Nope. They're just as fragile as vinyl, and the crappy EDC often just locks up the whole drive and driver software, instead of simply skipping the undecodable bad frames.

I got so many CDRWs that deteriorated in good storage, that are unreadable on any drive now.

BIG disappointment.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 07:59 PM (7imtn)

64 How to make pop sound like a James Bond theme

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2025 07:55 PM (JvEqy)
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Great version - it got my toe tapping

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:59 PM (4MR3n)

65 Posted by: Lex at November 08, 2025 07:52 PM (y4H1r)

Absolutely agree on the Beach Boys.

I like them more as I get older.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:00 PM (zZu0s)

66 Don't listen to them.

Posted by: ChatGP at November 08, 2025 07:57 PM (XeU6L)
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I'm yours!

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:00 PM (JQ6N+)

67 Much closer to old school punk. Also must be played at very high dB, or GTFO:
youtube.com/watch?v=FqzyBW1u7OA

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:01 PM (7imtn)

68 Hmmm.
Speaking of music...
I've been disinvited from the Christmas Carol group. One of the regular stops is at the Tacoma psychiatric hospital and apparently my so!o last year of Do You Hear What I Hear, caused a few problems.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:02 PM (2WIwB)

69 The End is good, but my favorite Doors song is probably Peace Frog. Fantastic beat.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:02 PM (JQ6N+)

70 One of the two Elvis Costello songs that pop in my head when I hear his name:

https://youtu.be/dJygTz0gB6g

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:04 PM (zZu0s)

71 I've been disinvited from the Christmas Carol group.
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Diogenes - Only at AOSHQ. It's posts like that that cause me to continue to visit this din of iniquity.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2025 08:05 PM (XeU6L)

72 Do You Hear What I Hear, caused a few problems.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:02 PM (2WIwB)
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Ha! I explained the Sanka Index about a week ago.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:05 PM (8YzGs)

73 Hmmm.
Speaking of music...
I've been disinvited from the Christmas Carol group. One of the regular stops is at the Tacoma psychiatric hospital and apparently my so!o last year of Do You Hear What I Hear, caused a few problems.
Posted by: Diogenes

I requested Free Bird at KFC and they threw me out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:05 PM (L/fGl)

74 The length of recorded 20th century popular music was dictated by a couple of limits. The amount of time people could/would dance to a song and the amount of music that would fit on a single side of a 78 rpm recording (6 minutes maximum).

These limits came to define what was considered the correct length of a popular record or about 2 to 3 minutes. I strongly suspect radio stations had a hand in length limits as this allowed for lots of commercials. In a similar manner music publishers preferred short pieces as they made more money by selling individual songs. The artists zeroed in on this limit and wrote, at times, epic musical poetry.

This began to change with the 33 1/3 LP came into its own which allowed for much longer pieces to be recorded, a particular advantage for classical music. This feature was exploited by Jazz musicians with Miles Davis' Kind of Blue being an excellent example with its 9 minute tracks. The Rock musicians, as their skills developed, also exploited this feature with mid 60s Dylan be another example of longer pieces being recorded.

Today the 2-3 minute song persists because it is an excellent length for single themed popular songs.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 08, 2025 08:06 PM (uv8gn)

75 From 1988, old schoolish skullsplitting punk that will disturb you:
youtube.com/watch?v=IL0nhn88aVA

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:06 PM (7imtn)

76 71 I've been disinvited from the Christmas Carol group.
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Diogenes - Only at AOSHQ. It's posts like that that cause me to continue to visit this din of iniquity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2025 08:05 PM (XeU6L)

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We are a clever, slightly twisted group.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:09 PM (2WIwB)

77 https://youtu.be/dJygTz0gB6g

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:04 PM (zZu0s)
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Great song. The whole album is excellent, really

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:09 PM (EQnjS)

78 What, no Metal Machine Music?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:09 PM (zZu0s)

79 Finally, from the seventies, seminal punk that EVERYBODY loves, and the thunderous beginning of my path to eardrum destruction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z1-R2LEuao

No sound system has yet been devised to play that one loud enough, but you have a duty to try anyway.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (7imtn)

80 I requested Free Bird at KFC and they threw me out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:05 PM (L/fGl)
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I am disappointed with myself for laughing at that

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (EQnjS)

81 15- https://tinyurl.com/phy9uah4

The thing that blows me away is the channel is supposedly AI. Seriously, listen to either song. I cannot believe it isn't real. We are in trouble.

Meanwhile, in James Bond style, I'm enjoying a wonderful martini. Gin, dry, and shaken.
Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM

Love it! Thanks for posting!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (rbKZ6)

82 The End is good, but my favorite Doors song is probably Peace Frog. Fantastic beat.
Posted by: 496

People Are Strange is, like, true, man.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:11 PM (L/fGl)

83
We are a clever, slightly twisted group.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Actually, I don't get it.

Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at November 08, 2025 08:11 PM (XeU6L)

84 Long song alert.

Tedeschi Trucks - Franklin's Tower - Live at Red Rocks

https://tinyurl.com/4zmy6wp6

Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2025 08:12 PM (viF8m)

85 65...agreed. The Beach Boys may seem corny and cheesy to the younger listener, but the more mature you become or the more you study them the more ingenious you see they were (at least Brian Wilson). If I recall, Paul McCartney said he was driven to make Sgt. Pepper one of the greatest albums because he was so blown away by the quality of Pet Sounds.

Posted by: Lex at November 08, 2025 08:12 PM (y4H1r)

86 Diogenes - Only at AOSHQ. It's posts like that that cause me to continue to visit this din of iniquity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

"din."

Music Thread.

Heh.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (nhCoE)

87 I tell you, my favorite Doors song is different.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: strive to be groovy at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (AOsQT)

88 Actually, I don't get it.
Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at November 08, 2025 08:11 PM (XeU6L)

Well Bob, go chat with the boys in G Group.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (2WIwB)

89 No sound system has yet been devised to play that one loud enough, but you have a duty to try anyway.
Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (7imtn)

The Ramones are really just the best.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (h7ZuX)

90 Also, When The Music's Over by The Doors.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (pkeXY)

91 I've heard that the reason the first CDs held 74 minutes of music is because the president of Sony wanted it to hold a particular version of Beethoven's Ninth that needed that much space.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (CNl8/)

92 Getting a 404 on the mystery click, CBD. About 3.5 to 4.5 minute song length seems about right.

Posted by: scampydog at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (LVaYG)

93 This is, like, James Bond except, like, insane.

https://is.gd/amJOUb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:15 PM (L/fGl)

94 "The Ramones are really just the best."

How's that? Can't quite hear you.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:15 PM (7imtn)

95 Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (7imtn)
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If you're not a liberal as a youngster, you have no heart.

If you're not a conservative when you're older, you have no brain.

If you don't love Rockaway Beach, you're just plain wrong.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:15 PM (PFg0D)

96 Posted by: Lex at November 08, 2025 08:12 PM (y4H1r)

I think it is a realization that the novel and weird can be fine and interesting, but it is the truly beautiful that is enduring.

It is pleasant music. Harmony is completely underrated to the young.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)

97 My .02, and it's a fascinating subject: Rock and Roll grew out of jump blues. and jump blues grew out of swing jazz and traditional blues. The phrase "rock and roll" shows up in the lyric of a song that Ella Fitzgerald did with the Chick Webb Orchestra, IIRC, and she was probably not the first to use it.

You can really go down a rabbit hole trying to find the first rock and roll song, but I think Rocket 88, by Ike Turner and his Kings of Rhythm is as good a candidate as any.

And, IMHO, the dividing line between rock and roll, and just plain "rock" is the dividing line between 2 to 3 minute singles, and long album cuts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2025 08:17 PM (npFr7)

98 I am disappointed with myself for laughing at that
Posted by: 496

Well, don't expect them to get any better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:17 PM (L/fGl)

99 Too lazy to look it up, but didn't MacArthur Park run close to 6 minutes?

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:17 PM (q3u5l)

100 Diogenes - Only at AOSHQ. It's posts like that that cause me to continue to visit this din of iniquity.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

"din."

Music Thread.

Heh.
Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:14 PM (nhCoE)

When the Horde goes.subtle, it can be awesome.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:18 PM (2WIwB)

101 38 Ridiculously long songs: Genesis' Supper's Ready
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 08, 2025 07:48 PM (9ipOP)

Supper's Ready (Apocalypse in 9/
Also, Gates of Delirium by Yes

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 08, 2025 08:18 PM (bufu1)

102

Disaster Area is a plutonium rock band fronted by Hotblack Desiato from the Gagrakacka Mind Zones, and this ensemble is generally regarded as not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but also the loudest noise of any kind at all.

Regular concert goers judged that the best sound balance was usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some thirty-seven miles away from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves played their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stayed in orbit around the planet - or, more frequently, around a completely different planet.

https://t.ly/4thFa

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2025 08:19 PM (pkeXY)

103 I am sorry I did not get this in the hobby thread, but for you hams, there is someone selling a three-rotor Enigma machine on Proxibid.
The opening bid is $120,000.00 and I am not bidding on it because you really need two or more to be useful, and I really can't afford more than one at that price

https://tinyurl.com/mrzenj6j

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2025 08:19 PM (rbvCR)

104 Love it! Thanks for posting!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (
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Thanks, but doesn't it sound real? I actually question whether the person who created it is truthful about it being AI. Again, I'm obsessed

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:19 PM (v2PU4)

105 We are talking about Nazi enigma machine?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:20 PM (zZu0s)

106 Too lazy to look it up, but didn't MacArthur Park run close to 6 minutes?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:17 PM (q3u5l)

Richard Harris version is over 7 minutes.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:20 PM (2WIwB)

107 And now I have an old dude whining about a cake in the rain in my head.

Fucking hell...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:21 PM (zZu0s)

108 My first album was Yes's Fragile. Bought it for Roundabout. Loved it for every other track...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 08, 2025 08:21 PM (nbLIj)

109 Berserker, question if I may. Would you know where I can get an unfinished Les Paul Jr. double cutaway guitar body? Building a new axe, parts guitar, pedestrian grade.

Posted by: alpine_beer at November 08, 2025 08:22 PM (van9r)

110 iirc, The phrase, "Rock and Roll," was slang for sex, and a Cleveland radio DJ assigned the term to the music genre.

Posted by: davidt at November 08, 2025 08:22 PM (Q+gd/)

111 We are talking about Nazi enigma machine?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:20 PM (zZu0s)

Yes, follow the link, it has lovely pictures.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2025 08:22 PM (rbvCR)

112 One of the reasons a lot of early rock was short was because of radio. They had a time format and if you wanted to get played you fit.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 08, 2025 07:47 PM (viF8m)

Until 33 1/3 LP's became popular, there was practically no way to record a long musical piece. You could record symphonies and operas on 16" 78 RPM records, and stack them on a changer; you played all the "A" sides, and then flipped the stack over, and played all the "B" sides to get the whole performance in sequence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2025 08:23 PM (npFr7)

113 We are talking about Nazi enigma machine?!
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:20 PM (zZu0s)

Wait. Whut???

Posted by: Bob from NSA at November 08, 2025 08:23 PM (2WIwB)

114 My gymnastics coach was a HUGE Beach Boys fan.

We tortured him with ABBA and Michael Jackson and Cyndi Lauper and Madonna when it was our turn to choose the music.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 08, 2025 08:25 PM (mT+6a)

115 That is very cool.

It has a qwertz keyboard layout. That is jarring.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:25 PM (zZu0s)

116 in the hobby thread

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I guess getting your eyebrows done is a hobby.

CNN's Ashley Allison says SNAP is having a "massive impact" after she went to her eyebrow technician who told her they had to fire people because clients don't have money to do their brows.
The horror.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:26 PM (L/fGl)

117 The Urban Dictionary, "Rock and Roll"...

https://tinyurl.com/4mdpf8dn

Posted by: davidt at November 08, 2025 08:26 PM (Q+gd/)

118 103 I am sorry I did not get this in the hobby thread, but for you hams, there is someone selling a three-rotor Enigma machine on Proxibid.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2025 08:19 PM
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Wow. Well spotted. Rarely come up for public sale. Wonder who the seller is. I went down a rabbit hole a few years ago to understand how these worked. There are some good books and YT videos. It is very clever.

Posted by: TRex - decoded dino at November 08, 2025 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

119 My favorite Beach Boys song: the little known Caroline No.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:28 PM (2WIwB)

120 Aetius at 107 --

Sorry about that. Hadn't intended to traumatize anyone. Will try to be more careful in the future.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:28 PM (q3u5l)

121 Not your fault, just how my brain works.

Not really a normal thing you should account for.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:29 PM (zZu0s)

122 But since I like to spread pain:

https://youtu.be/tRwYQgk05DY

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:30 PM (zZu0s)

123 Mentioned on the art thread I just rediscovered Don McLean’s , Vincent.

Beautifully sung with beautiful music and lyrics.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 08, 2025 08:30 PM (EYmYM)

124 I am a fucking moron. I did not realize that guy was Richard Harris' son. The voice.

Kind of makes sense. Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:31 PM (zZu0s)

125 I've heard that the reason the first CDs held 74 minutes of music is because the president of Sony wanted it to hold a particular version of Beethoven's Ninth that needed that much space. Posted by: Mark1971

That is something of a tall tale.
https://is.gd/DCfFuk

An alternate version
https://is.gd/EMQ74i

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 08, 2025 08:31 PM (uv8gn)

126 A few weeks ago, I stumbled on what might have been a neat song on YouTube; "Why Should I Kneel." It was a song from a high-fantasy setting, of a dragon who was confronted by a knight, and was unimpressed, defiant, and antagonistic.....Until the dragon noticed the 'knight' was a girl. Then the tone changed instantly. And I hit the close-window button before the next line was even finished.

I have gotten so sick of the girl-boss trope that I won't even tolerate it in my music.

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2025 08:32 PM (Lhaco)

127
Nice looking crocs!
Posted by: 496

When did ace and the horde first begin giving garrett crap about wearing croks? I wanna go back and refresh myself on some of the cruelty.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 08, 2025 08:32 PM (QVmho)

128 There is SO MUCH good music out there. I. A way, even we had a hard time hearing all of it. For the ala carte youth, even though it is there, we have to point it out to them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:32 PM (zZu0s)

129 Wow. Well spotted. Rarely come up for public sale. Wonder who the seller is. I went down a rabbit hole a few years ago to understand how these worked. There are some good books and YT videos. It is very clever.
Posted by: TRex - decoded dino at November 08, 2025 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

Didn't the later Enigma machines have 4 or 5 rotors?

I expect a software-defined Enigma machine already exists?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (npFr7)

130 Also, Gates of Delirium by Yes
Posted by: LCMS Rulz!

Tales From Topographic Oceans. It's either a concept album of four 20-minute songs, or a single 80-minute song in 4 movements.

Probably the inspiration for the 30-second "Short Songs" by the Dead Kennedys, which starts out "Rick Wakeman, eat your heart out."

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (nhCoE)

131 Iirc, the cross grew out of general gay jokes.

Like messenger bags.

Or Vespa.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (zZu0s)

132 118 103 I am sorry I did not get this in the hobby thread, but for you hams, there is someone selling a three-rotor Enigma machine on Proxibid.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2025 08:19 PM
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Wow. Well spotted. Rarely come up for public sale. Wonder who the seller is. I went down a rabbit hole a few years ago to understand how these worked. There are some good books and YT videos. It is very clever.
Posted by: TRex - decoded dino at November 08, 2025 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson

Posted by: Eromero at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (LHPAg)

133 Crocs, not cross.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:34 PM (zZu0s)

134 J6 pipe bomber identified?

https://tinyurl.com/336c6vfr

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at November 08, 2025 08:36 PM (zxZLk)

135 I have crappy feet, but don't wear my shoes inside so I use crocs. Every damn day.

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:37 PM (khVJI)

136 Aetius at 124

Which guy is Richard Harris' son? Think I missed a reference somewhere.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:37 PM (q3u5l)

137 Sort of on topic, I just discovered channel 359 on Sirius XM, "North Americana." Folk/pop, definitely SWPL music. All Canadian musicians, so you aren't overwhelmed with overplayed USA acts.
I know, it's not rock and roll, but I like it.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2025 08:37 PM (utsBX)

138 Aaaaaaand I missed the thread on it...

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at November 08, 2025 08:37 PM (zxZLk)

139 Didn't the later Enigma machines have 4 or 5 rotors?

I expect a software-defined Enigma machine already exists?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (npFr7)

IIRC, the NASA didn't declassified the system in the 70's. It was that good.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:37 PM (2WIwB)

140 The Four Songs By Hole That Are Worth Listening To:

youtube.com/watch?v=O3dWBLoU--E
youtube.com/watch?v=QM74Q6Vqqps
youtube.com/watch?v=cH_rfGBwamc
youtube.com/watch?v=v0CYB5V9e64

They started out with the full intention of sounding like dreary crap, but then they apparently got Produced, which helped a whole bunch. I saw them live and they sounded mighty fine. Yes, I saw Courtney's bare boobs with my own eyes. So I showed her mine; right back atcha!

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:38 PM (7imtn)

141 Crocs, not cross.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:34 PM (zZu0s)

Ahhh.
That explains the lightening.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:39 PM (2WIwB)

142 Is it too early for Christmas..... or, in this case, "yule," songs?

Youtube put "Mitt Hjerte Alltid Vanker" (My Heart Always Lingers) by Kalandra in my recommendations this week.

https://youtu.be/hHy6oOCHW3Y

It sounds like Christmas in Middle Earth.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:40 PM (nhCoE)

143 Which guy is Richard Harris' son? Think I missed a reference somewhere.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:37 PM (q3u5l)

OK, sorry. After I searched for MacArthur park, a suggested video showed up where Jared Harris talks about his dad, Richard Harris. As soon as I saw the guys face, my brain called up his voice and I was like 'holy crap!'

Jared Harris was Moriarty in the Sherlock Holnes reboot as well as a villain in fringe. I also think he was in the chernobyl series.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:40 PM (zZu0s)

144 It ia a few years old, but Stanley Tucci is fun to watch making a martini. He is one of those actors who, whenever he is on the screen, my eyes are drawn to him.

https://tinyurl.com/mrhy5aju

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:41 PM (z1j+k)

145 North Americana." Folk/pop, definitely SWPL music.

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I thought this 8 minute video about how a folk song became classical was interesting.

https://is.gd/fScQxT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Why Do the Heathen Rage? at November 08, 2025 08:43 PM (L/fGl)

146 Courtney Love must have been a nightmare for her security staff. When I saw her at Tinley Park, she did a stage-dive into the crowd, body-surfed, and people started tearing her clothes off.

Didn't seem to faze her, so I think she was making an artistic point of some kind. If I was on her security team, I would have punched her, hard, backstage for that, and quit.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (7imtn)

147 Instant Classic:

HALF HORSE HALF MAN | OFFICIAL VIDEO
by OCT

https://tinyurl.com/3be734pn

Posted by: Orson at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (dIske)

148 144 Tucci is a fine actor!

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (7imtn)

149 Jared Harris has been pretty busy, if memory serves. A number of movies besides the Holmes reboots, and I believe he was in the mini-series from Dan Simmons' novel The Terror. He ain't bad.

Don't know if he's ever covered MacArthur Park, though.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (q3u5l)

150 I would have punched her, hard, backstage for that, and quit.
Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (7imtn)

You might have eaten a shotgun...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 08:46 PM (zZu0s)

151 Porcupine Tree “The Sky Moves Sideways”
Porcupine Tree “Voyage XXXIV”

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 08:46 PM (vwL3N)

152 68 Hmmm.
Speaking of music...
I've been disinvited from the Christmas Carol group. One of the regular stops is at the Tacoma psychiatric hospital and apparently my so!o last year of Do You Hear What I Hear, caused a few problems.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:02 PM (2WIwB)

You get a golf clap from all my personalities for that one.

Posted by: tankdemon at November 08, 2025 08:47 PM (1dKwP)

153 "You might have eaten a shotgun..."

Yes, I think that's what the Malibu song is about. Still a brilliant song nevertheless.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:47 PM (7imtn)

154 Dream Theater “Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence”

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 08:47 PM (vwL3N)

155 Do you, Do you, Do you, wanna'

https://tinyurl.com/4c8htfue

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2025 08:48 PM (qKI0i)

156 Folk songs: I have posted this here before, but my wife once sang a duet with Pete Seeger.

She was in kindergarten in the Hudson Valley and he dropped in. The rest of the kids were chicken, but she stood up there and belted one out with him

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:48 PM (EQnjS)

157 And a very good martini indeed!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 08:48 PM (n9ltV)

158 Liquid Tension Experiment “Three-Minute Warning”

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 08:48 PM (vwL3N)

159 And a very good martini indeed!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2025 08:48 PM (n9ltV)

What CBD said!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:49 PM (2WIwB)

160 Didn't the later Enigma machines have 4 or 5 rotors?
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In that vein, recommended read:

'Battle of Wits', Budiansky.
Goodreads review:
https://shorturl.at/Y8gIl

Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at November 08, 2025 08:50 PM (XeU6L)

161 Another peeve: radio stations playing what I call the sampler plate. Black Sabbath has a huge catalog of truly excellent music, but all we hear is Paranoid, Iron Man, and maybe War Pigs.

I know I could play my songs on the phone, but when I am driving,I mostly have the radio on in the background.

Still, my point stands.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, at November 08, 2025 08:50 PM (z2pqi)

162 "J6 pipe bomber identified?
https://tinyurl.com/336c6vfr"

'Gait analysis' again, but man I want that case cracked so bad! It's the frickin key to the entire J6 US Govt conspiracy.

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:50 PM (7imtn)

163 You get a golf clap from all my personalities for that one.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 08, 2025 08:47 PM (1dKwP)

So...thunderous applause!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:50 PM (2WIwB)

164 Tales From Topographic Oceans. It's either a concept album of four 20-minute songs, or a single 80-minute song in 4 movements.

Probably the inspiration for the 30-second "Short Songs" by the Dead Kennedys, which starts out "Rick Wakeman, eat your heart out."
Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (nhCoE)

When I left ROTC FT at Lackland AFB, having graduated, I put on “The Revealing Science of God” because I knew when the song ended I would be home.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 08:50 PM (vwL3N)

165 Listen up, geezers! There's new music on the horizon.

Some may be memorable, but probably most will be forgettable.

What happened to rock and roll? I find myself going back to the older artists frequently, because the new age of pop artists are mediocre at best.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 08, 2025 08:51 PM (uM32G)

166 Elvis Costello is one of my favorites. I’m a pop punk fan so makes sense.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 08, 2025 08:51 PM (EYmYM)

167 147 Instant Classic:

HALF HORSE HALF MAN | OFFICIAL VIDEO
by OCT

Posted by: Orson at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (dIske)

That earworm burrowed its way into my head many months ago. I actually prefer the video version where the singers are just in a studio recording the song. They still put a lot of silly expressions in into it...

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2025 08:52 PM (Lhaco)

168 Whis the fucktard who writes this drivel on your side column?
Tucker Carlson enjoys using the left-wing tactic of "Tactical Ignorance" to avoid taking positions on topics. Is Hamas really a terrorist organization? Tucker can't say. He hasn't looked into it enough, but "it seems like a political organization to me." Are Muslims slaughtering Christians in Nigeria? Again, Tucker just doesn't know. He hasn't examined the evidence yet. He knows every Palestinian Christian who said he was blocked from visiting holy sites in Bethlehem, but .... I'm a nevertrumper

Posted by: MikeN at November 08, 2025 08:52 PM (yzz5k)

169 HALF HORSE HALF MAN | OFFICIAL VIDEO
by OCT

https://tinyurl.com/3be734pn
Posted by: Orson at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (dIske)

LOL

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 08, 2025 08:52 PM (h7ZuX)

170 From 1963, maybe the best pop song evah. Welcome to Wall Of Sound:
youtube.com/watch?v=jSPpbOGnFgk

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 08:53 PM (7imtn)

171 Dream Theater “Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence”
Posted by: Cow Demon

You have to piece it together from songs across five albums, but the Twelve Step Suite (about drummer Mike Portnoy's alcoholism) comes in just short of an hour, at 57:16.

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:53 PM (nhCoE)

172 I thought I liked a number of artists the ‘kids’ liked but now all those artists have been around for 20 years . Time flies at ludicrous speed.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 08, 2025 08:54 PM (EYmYM)

173 Some of my favorite songs are the longest.

Three Days - Janes
Third Eye - Tool
The G Song - Dogs In a Pile
Horizon - Pigeons Playing Ping Pong
In My Time Of Dying - Zep
Xanadu - Rush
... and on and on ...

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 08:54 PM (eYAt4)

174 What happened to sex, drugs and rock & roll?

Now we have social media, ticket sales and gay sex.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 08, 2025 08:54 PM (uM32G)

175 Since we're talking about songs on YouTube, I've become rather fond of Sail North. They took the sea-shanty craze of a few years ago and ran with it.

Here's their newest
https://tinyurl.com/96ayutc2

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2025 08:54 PM (Lhaco)

176 Dream Theater “Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence”
Posted by: Cow Demon

aka "My Dinner at Chipotle's"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2025 08:55 PM (npFr7)

177 Posted by: Orson at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (dIske)
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When I think of a half horse/half man all I can think of is Buck 65 (Nova Scotia rap band) and their song Centaur
["I'm a man, but I'm built like a horse from the waist down"]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5RgN6hQE0

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:55 PM (EWlvz)

178 Most will probably be forgettable because music, like just about everything else, is subject to Sturgeon's Law.

Myself, I probably won't forget any of it because I probably won't hear any of it. For me, popular music started heading downhill after The Association stopped recording. I'd guess most of you can think of a cutoff point like that. The newer stuff may be perfectly fine, but the newer groups probably aren't talking to us. Same way with books and movies I think.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 08, 2025 08:56 PM (q3u5l)

179 You have to piece it together from songs across five albums, but the Twelve Step Suite (about drummer Mike Portnoy's alcoholism) comes in just short of an hour, at 57:16.
Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 08:53 PM (nhCoE)

I don’t know why but when I put it together on a play list it was just a bit longer than that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 08:56 PM (vwL3N)

180 Funny thing about The Doors is that I really can't stand 'em ( I inherited that from my dad), except for The Soft Parade, which is the album all their fans hate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 08:56 PM (h+tM9)

181 Best driving song?

Mine- Radar Love

Posted by: the way I see it at November 08, 2025 08:56 PM (EYmYM)

182 Been listening to Pink Floyd recently. Gotta love the 26-minute Echoes and the half-hour Atom Heart Mother.

Posted by: tsj017 at November 08, 2025 08:56 PM (xakWh)

183 What happened to rock and roll? I find myself going back to the older artists frequently, because the new age of pop artists are mediocre at best.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 08, 2025 08:51 PM (uM32G

When my internal juke box hits the nostalgia button, I start with Chicago, then 3 Dog Night, then off to the Stones, and CCR.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 08:57 PM (2WIwB)

184 Best driving song?

Red Barchetta

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 08:57 PM (eYAt4)

185 Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 08:54 PM (eYAt4)

No American Pie?

Posted by: the way I see it at November 08, 2025 08:57 PM (EYmYM)

186
What happened to rock and roll? I find myself going back to the older artists frequently, because the new age of pop artists are mediocre at best.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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I confess to a fondness for harmony and melody.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2025 08:59 PM (XeU6L)

187 "No American Pie?"

As a kid, I liked it. I moved on.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 08:59 PM (eYAt4)

188 184 Best driving song?

Red Barchetta
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 08:57 PM (eYAt4)

That, and

Sammy Hagar”I Can’t Drive 55”
Ministry “Jesus Built My Hotrod”
Megadeth “502”

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 08:59 PM (vwL3N)

189 What happened to sex, drugs and rock & roll?

Now we have social media, ticket sales and gay sex.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 08, 2025 08:54 PM (uM32G)

Used to be wine, women and song.
Now it's beer, the 'ol lady and tv.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 09:00 PM (2WIwB)

190 Longest Rock Song/Album

Jethro Tull
Thick as a Brick
Both Sides make up one continuous work.
Part I https://youtu.be/ldXdnZtTWp8
Part II https://youtu.be/GTWQv8RsI6s

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 08, 2025 09:00 PM (uv8gn)

191 "Been listening to Pink Floyd recently. Gotta love the 26-minute Echoes and the half-hour Atom Heart Mother."

Their 'concert' at Pompeii is some of their best work, imo.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 09:00 PM (eYAt4)

192 https://tinyurl.com/3be734pn
Posted by: Orson at November 08, 2025 08:45 PM (dIske)
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Actually kind of a banger

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 09:00 PM (sfOD1)

193 Past 100 comments (heh), so off-topic (heh²

. Feel free to skip to next comment.

🎶 🎹 amateur hour again — I don't think I've linked to this one before. Could have had better mic on the vocals. Fortunately (or not), there are lyric captions.

Choose Between Love (orig. 1979)
When love runs away with you, what can you do?
Link in nic. Should play from 3:02 to 9:44 in the vid.
A cut from Mindful Webworkshop #2, 2016 Aug 19

🌅

Why? For posterior's sake.
https://bit.ly/webworkshop-playlist

Posted by: mindful webworker - Loves Lost and Found at November 08, 2025 09:01 PM (3ynhY)

194 Best driving song?
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Radar Love

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2025 09:01 PM (XeU6L)

195 If you are driving on I-10 in southern LA between Lafayette and Baton Rouge, start to play “Dogs” by Floyd, Pink at the exact moment you begin to cross the Atchafalaya Bridge. You’ll be done when th3 song is.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 09:01 PM (vwL3N)

196 https://youtu.be/WrUtuNTj71Q

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2025 09:01 PM (rdVOm)

197 Didn't the later Enigma machines have 4 or 5 rotors?

I expect a software-defined Enigma machine already exists?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 08, 2025 08:33 PM (npFr7)

I had a link to an Enigma emulator but that was in 2012 or so.

The naval version had four rotors, but I think the army stuck with a 3 rotor system

David Khan's The Code Breakers talks extensively about the Poles and Brits breaking Enigma, which requires explaining how it worked.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2025 09:02 PM (rbvCR)

198 What happened to sex, drugs and rock & roll?

Now we have social media, ticket sales and gay sex.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
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Live fast, die young, leave a beautiful body.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2025 09:03 PM (XeU6L)

199 IIRC, there are 6 cuts on an hour long 33 of Lou Reed's Rock and Roll Animal. Long form enough?
Two words: Grateful Dead
Plus, an SF "counterculture" band you don't hear much about - Quicksilver Messenger Service. https://youtu.be/7ejj81Y2ZlM?si=gDL7CcW-DaS2A1Ln

Posted by: buddhaha at November 08, 2025 09:03 PM (C+UIq)

200
Jethro Tull
Thick as a Brick
Both Sides make up one continuous work.
Part I https://youtu.be/ldXdnZtTWp8
Part II https://youtu.be/GTWQv8RsI6s
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 08, 2025 09:00 PM (

Impossible. The only song they ever recorded is “Aqualung”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at November 08, 2025 09:03 PM (vwL3N)

201 This is a good song for driving. At 110mph. Through the San Luis Valley.

https://youtu.be/r2AInopKBWM?si=D0FVN-jAFE1Kv91H

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 09:04 PM (BI5O2)

202 184 Best driving song?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 08, 2025 08:57 PM (eYAt4)\

'Another White Dash' from Butterfly Boucher. A random song from an obscure artist that I discovered in college, and have kept in my digital library ever since.

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 08, 2025 09:05 PM (Lhaco)

203 104 Love it! Thanks for posting!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 08:10 PM (
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Thanks, but doesn't it sound real? I actually question whether the person who created it is truthful about it being AI. Again, I'm obsessed
Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:19 PM

I listened to about 40 minutes of it while I was making dinner and it sounds real to me. Scary!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 09:05 PM (rbKZ6)

204 Best driving song?

Driving north and south: Ventura Highway by America
East and west: Jodi Messina and Heads Carolina, Tails California.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 09:06 PM (2WIwB)

205 201 This is a good song for driving. At 110mph. Through the San Luis Valley.

https://youtu.be/r2AInopKBWM?si=D0FVN-jAFE1Kv91H
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 09:04 PM

Um, no...

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 09:07 PM (rbKZ6)

206 Best driving song?

Mine- Radar Love
Posted by: the way I see it at November 08, 2025 08:56 PM (EYmYM)

I used to have a CD of Turkish music I would play in heavy traffic. It put me in the mood for dealing with the other idiots on the road

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2025 09:07 PM (rbvCR)

207 This is a good song for driving. At 110mph. Through the San Luis Valley.

https://youtu.be/r2AInopKBWM?si=D0FVN-jAFE1Kv91H
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 09:04 PM (BI5O2)
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I'll see your Rammstein and raise you this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_lhspmjCJ4

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 08, 2025 09:08 PM (IBQGV)

208 "184 Best driving song?"

Offspring, Bad Habit:
youtube.com/watch?v=_wMa_t5cBgY

Posted by: gp at November 08, 2025 09:08 PM (7imtn)

209
Impossible. The only song they ever recorded is “Aqualung”.
Posted by: Cow Demon

It was a new day yesterday but it's an old day now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2025 09:08 PM (pkeXY)

210 Jethro Tull
Thick as a Brick
Both Sides make up one continuous work.
Part I https://youtu.be/ldXdnZtTWp8
Part II https://youtu.be/GTWQv8RsI6s
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram

Nektar had to do that with "Remember the Future," too.

It's not as long as TaaB, at a mere 35:43.

https://youtu.be/h7B43s3kD3s
https://youtu.be/EVeVroWTV-8

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 09:10 PM (nhCoE)

211 Been playing "In My Life" by John Lennon, a short pretty song with a solo pre-chorus played on a harpsichord, that has a fun tumble-down arpeggio at its end like the player fell off the stool.

Posted by: M. Gaga at November 08, 2025 09:10 PM (zeLd4)

212 204- Heads Carolina, Tails California.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2025 09:06 PM

Love driving in the car with that one playing.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 09:12 PM (rbKZ6)

213 Mono Little Deuce Coupe. I prefer the mono for Beach Boys early stuff.

https://youtu.be/3HkGGxM7ldA?si=GF0KsmvyO8HrWJer

Posted by: Thesokorus at November 08, 2025 09:13 PM (/A7x9)

214 Best driving song?
Red Barchetta
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick

That, and
Sammy Hagar”I Can’t Drive 55”
Ministry “Jesus Built My Hotrod”
Megadeth “502”
Posted by: Cow Demon

If the title has to be about driving, then "Road's A Breeze (@3AM)"

https://youtu.be/hq_vnQmAfXw

It's an instrumental, so maybe it's not a "song?"

Posted by: mikeski at November 08, 2025 09:13 PM (nhCoE)

215 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_lhspmjCJ4
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 08, 2025 09:08 PM (IBQGV)

Yeah, that's a cool song.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 09:15 PM (BI5O2)

216 Molly.Hatchet Flirtin' With Disaster is best driving song. Actually best song ever. Well, maybe Alone Again or? Is better idk

Posted by: Thesokorus at November 08, 2025 09:15 PM (/A7x9)

217 Hot Rod Lincoln.

Posted by: davidt at November 08, 2025 09:15 PM (Q+gd/)

218 Highway Star

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2025 09:16 PM (pkeXY)

219 What happened to rock and roll? I find myself going back to the older artists frequently, because the new age of pop artists are mediocre at best.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone

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Aerosmith's Adam's Apple is the greatest example of pure non-hyphenated rock ever recorded.

CHANGE MY MIND

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 08, 2025 09:16 PM (JkO4W)

220 Down before Telegraph Road is Wayside Drive.

youtube.com/watch?v=XVakD76OXjI&t=523s

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2025 09:16 PM (qKI0i)

221 Cicero,

Toys in the Attic is one of the greatest rock albums ever. I love listening to it on road trips.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, at November 08, 2025 09:18 PM (z2pqi)

222 Long songs are no good when I'm driving. The music gets seallowed by all the other stimuli, and I don't even realize when the tune has ended.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2025 09:18 PM (p/isN)

223 Best driving song? The William Tell Overture, of course.

(The Lone Ranger theme, for those of you who are over 29)

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2025 09:20 PM (utsBX)

224 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_lhspmjCJ4
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 08, 2025 09:08 PM (IBQGV)

Yeah, that's a cool song.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 09:15 PM (BI5O2)
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Fun fact... Apparently Poe's brother is Mark Z. Danielewski, author of House of Leaves and is credited as a co-writer of the lyrics for that song.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 08, 2025 09:20 PM (IBQGV)

225 This is also a good one

https://youtu.be/vVTXACIKfm4?si=hTjdWBQMiqdOAEpH

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2025 09:20 PM (BI5O2)

226
Mystery lyrics:

My dog bit me on the leg today
My cat clawed my eyes

Posted by: democracy manifest at November 08, 2025 09:20 PM (tuBfV)

227 Live fast, die young, leave a beautiful body.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 08, 2025 09:03 PM (XeU6L)

Or as Faron Young said:

https://youtu.be/PrIblTLbPVM

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 08, 2025 09:20 PM (zZu0s)

228 ---------

I confess to a fondness for harmony and melody.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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That's like a controlled environment... paw lease.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2025 09:23 PM (qKI0i)

229 https://youtu.be/jjiqw7AByNU

Posted by: JQ at November 08, 2025 09:24 PM (rdVOm)

230 19 My thing is that I don't like radio edit songs. I cringe when I hear the short version of Don't Fear the Reaper, for example. Dammit, play the real one!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, in Idaho Falls at November 08, 2025 07:38 PM (z2pqi)

See also Another Brick in the Wall, Part 2.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at November 08, 2025 09:25 PM (8hxDK)

231 Another fun rock topic is great rock screams. A couple candidates...

Roger Daltrey - Won't Get Fooled Again
https://youtu.be/Jtb10ZwbReY

Steven Tyler - Baby Please Don't Go
https://youtu.be/9r25eLFBAc4

Joe Cocker - I Come In Peace
https://youtu.be/JpYepPmcXHo
This track is from his last album, Fire it Up (2012). It is solid as can be.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at November 08, 2025 09:26 PM (uv8gn)

232 >>>Best driving song?

>Best driving band? Definitely Megadeth.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 08, 2025 09:27 PM (uM32G)

233 During my recently concluded pilgrimage to Corsicana I had opportunity to thoroughly immerse myself into all the joys offered by Android Auto. (Thanks patriarchy!)
At some point I held down the magic button and after the dutiful beep I simply said:
"Play music by Eric Clapton."
Well, algorithm be praised! I had at least two hours of fun driving listening to him and him paired up with B B. King, or Mark Knopfler and I don't know who all else. All I remember is I hardly skipped a song. Lots of great blues music and several other genres.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 08, 2025 09:28 PM (XQo4F)

234 Mystery lyrics:

My dog bit me on the leg today
My cat clawed my eyes
Posted by: democracy manifest at November 08, 2025 09:20 PM (tuBfV)

Too easy.

https://youtu.be/KN6ngThqMEs

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 08, 2025 09:28 PM (utsBX)

235 144 It ia a few years old, but Stanley Tucci is fun to watch making a martini. He is one of those actors who, whenever he is on the screen, my eyes are drawn to him.

https://tinyurl.com/mrhy5aju
Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 08:41 PM (z1j+k)

He has a series on National Geographic called "Tucci in Italy" that's pretty nice.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 08, 2025 09:29 PM (rbKZ6)

236 Mystery lyric is No More Mr Nice Guy by Alice cooper

Posted by: kelly cereal lurker at November 08, 2025 09:30 PM (tnwP5)

237 Another fun rock topic is great rock screams. A couple candidates...

Roger Daltrey - Won't Get Fooled Again
https://youtu.be/Jtb10ZwbReY

Steven Tyler - Baby Please Don't Go
https://youtu.be/9r25eLFBAc4

Joe Cocker - I Come In Peace
https://youtu.be/JpYepPmcXHo
This track is from his last album, Fire it Up (2012). It is solid as can be.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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That is fun. Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin.

Posted by: scampydog at November 08, 2025 09:31 PM (LVaYG)

238 >Another fun rock topic is great rock screams. A couple candidates...
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John Fogerty, Travelin' Band

Posted by: Don Black. Message: strive to be groovy at November 08, 2025 09:31 PM (AOsQT)

239 Best driving song: If Life Is a Highway

Posted by: 496 at November 08, 2025 09:33 PM (z/ZBD)

240 Rock and Roll. Led Zeppelin was at the English country mansion Headley Grange working on their fourth album. While working on the song Four Sticks, named that because Bonham played that song with four drumsticks, Bonham became frustrated and then spontaneously busted out the intro to an old Little Richard song, Keep A-Knockin', and then went into a basic 4-4 time.

Page joined in with an old 50s style guitar riff. Jones joined in with a bass line. Plant threw in some lyrics he'd been working on. In less than an hour they had composed and recorded one of their most iconic songs.

That's rock and roll. A small group of guys having fun belting it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2lSwosw9xY

Posted by: davidt at November 08, 2025 09:33 PM (Q+gd/)

241 >>>Another fun rock topic is great rock screams. A couple candidates...

>Nobody comes close to Rob Halford of Judas Priest fame.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 08, 2025 09:35 PM (uM32G)

242
With a cherry on top.

youtube.com/watch?v=pdOz-3eUoEA

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2025 09:36 PM (qKI0i)

243 Been playing "In My Life" by John Lennon, a short pretty song with a solo pre-chorus played on a harpsichord, that has a fun tumble-down arpeggio at its end like the player fell off the stool.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 08, 2025 09:10 PM (zeLd4)

George Martin added that bridge. He played it on a standard piano, then sped up the playback to get that harpsichord dound

Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 08, 2025 09:36 PM (nbLIj)

244 Holy shit!
So much to weigh in on…
Long songs? Generally tiresome, but you won’t soon find a bigger Pink Floyd fan than I am.
Whole albums, weaving in stories. Can’t speak enough about all of it, so won’t try. But I will say, headphones, recliner, time, and Dark Side of the Moon.

Heard Operations Mindcrime was good; never done it.

Now… Dream Theater and Pull Me Under, is an exceptional long songs. Tempo and mood changes are very good.
Anyone besides me think that the opening lyrics sound like it was Ian Anderson? Just can’t hear it, ever, without thinking that.

Posted by: Gunslinger at November 08, 2025 09:38 PM (7hdjp)

245 From San Antone to Lake Charles

https://youtu.be/lZsdvn2uJH0?&t=10

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 08, 2025 09:40 PM (qKI0i)

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