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Trump Strikes Deal With Big Pharma to Reduce *American* Prices for Weight Loss Drugs Ozempic and Mounjaro
Well, with all of the angst about the economy and Trump spending too much focus on foreign policy, I guess this is helpful.
Supposedly, the price would drop, eventually, to $245 per month for those paying cash. We'll see.
U.S. President Donald Trump, Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk unveiled a deal on Thursday to slash the prices of popular GLP-1 weight‑loss drugs for the government's Medicare and Medicaid programs, as well as for cash payers. The move is aimed at increasing access to the treatments through U.S. Medicare for people aged 65 and over and the Medicaid program for low-income people, which together provide healthcare coverage for nearly half of all Americans. U.S. patients currently pay by far the most for prescription medicines, often nearly three times more than in other developed nations, and Trump has been pressuring drugmakers to lower their prices to what patients pay elsewhere. "GLP-1s have been top of mind and not just because of the cardiometabolic benefits that they provide, but also because it is an issue of fairness and utilization and pricing and access and affordability for the American people," an administration official told reporters. Starter doses of rival weight‑loss pills being developed by Lilly and Novo, if approved, will cost $149 per month for all Medicare and Medicaid enrollees and via the White House's new direct-to-consumer site, TrumpRx, senior administration officials said. For currently available injectable GLP-1s used for diabetes and other covered health issues, prices would fall to $245 per month for patients with Medicare or Medicaid, they said. On TrumpRx, the average price of injectables and pills will start at or below $350 monthly and is expected to trend downward to $245 within two years.I tried to get on Mounjaro. The cost was something obscene like $1400 per month, but you could sign up for a coupon and "only" pay $550 or something. $350 would be expensive but, I guess, obtainable. Think about all the money I'd save on Ho-Ho's.
In Medicare, patients' co-pays will be capped at $50 a month, officials said.
Commercial health insurers would also be able to access prices estimated to be 25% lower than current cash prices, they said. The government will also expand coverage for GLP-1s under the deal, officials said, to overweight patients with prediabetes or heart problems, obese patients with comorbidities and severely obese patients, accounting for 10% of Medicare patients.
NOW - Trump is proud to announce steep discounts on Ozempic, from the oval office. pic.twitter.com/G4Y9OqNO5s
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) November 6, 2025
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:11 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: NCKate at November 06, 2025 01:13 PM (4bYb7)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2025 01:13 PM (og9zY)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2025 01:13 PM (WPL6O)
She's down 15 lbs in 6 weeks.
Posted by: ballistic at November 06, 2025 01:14 PM (5aZAZ)
Posted by: Robert, the Love Walrus at November 06, 2025 01:14 PM (pNNfr)
The cash price should be capped at $50. Expecting taxpayers to pay for others healthcare, who then get cheaper meds than they can purchase, is obscene.
Still, it’s a step in the right direction.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (abIsI)
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (Sco7b)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (og9zY)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Excessive carbs, sugars, and a sedentary lifestyle at November 06, 2025 01:16 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:16 PM (jc0TO)
Tobacco is an American product. These prices are running them out of business.
Posted by: Case at November 06, 2025 01:16 PM (9HFDU)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:16 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:16 PM (i24o9)
Tobacco is an American product. These prices are running them out of business.
actually, great idea
helps with focus and weight loss too
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (abIsI)
Possibly, but constipation is more likely. GLP-1 drugs slow down the movement of food through the digestive tract.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: tubal at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (0vB2I)
now THERE'S an ad for pharma!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (jc0TO)
Back in college, when I did not need to lose weight but we would now and then take "Fastin" or something to study. There was an amazing diet pill called "Preludin" or similar, as I did not pay attention to spellings of drugs for college exams...and while I sound like a druggie I only took them a couple of times.
That Preludin pill was awesome! No jitters, but made me feel taller and really great! Bring back that one! As I could use it now for 30lbs or so that I caught during the plandemic.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (MAl//)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Common side effects, we'll get to the serious stuff in a moment:
Nausea (most common, reported in up to 1 in 5 people in clinical trials)
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Stomach (abdominal) pain
Constipation
Upset stomach/indigestion/heartburn
Bloating, gas, burping
Loss of appetite
Headache
Dizziness
Tiredness or fatigue
Runny nose or sore throat (cold symptoms)
Injection site reactions (redness, swelling, or itching)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (abIsI)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (EXyHK)
If he announced a plan that would make a one-mile ambulance ride cost less than $3000, I'd bet a lot of people would cheer more vigorously.
Posted by: red speck at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (oylnX)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (jc0TO)
Face colanders promote weight loss.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: garrett at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (UDyAS)
Eventually, sure. Rival drugs are being developed, which will lower the costs, and the patents will expire, at which time they'll be giving the stuff away.
But will we see $245 per month cash from this deal alone? I'm skeptical.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: toby928(c)
Render it obsolete.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM
ISWYDT
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: The Legal Department at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: I made myself fat, pay for my fat loss meds! at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (TbWk/)
Pancreatitis (inflammation of the pancreas): Symptoms include severe, persistent stomach pain that may radiate to the back, with or without vomiting.
Gallbladder problems: Can cause severe stomach pain, fever, nausea, and vomiting.
Kidney problems (kidney injury/failure): Dehydration from severe vomiting and diarrhea can lead to kidney issues. Symptoms include a decrease in the amount of urine, swelling in the ankles, hands, or feet, and unusual tiredness.
Low blood sugar (hypoglycemia): More likely if used with other diabetes medications like insulin or a sulfonylurea. Symptoms include sweating, shakiness, dizziness, confusion, or blurry vision.
Serious allergic reactions: Symptoms include swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat, severe rash or itching, trouble breathing, or a fast heartbeat.
Changes in vision: Especially in people with diabetic retinopathy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (L/fGl)
Really? Why?
Posted by: garrett at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (UDyAS)
____
Doesn't everyone want to get on Mt Kilimanjaro?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (iFTx/)
I'm still not sold that a med with this many side effects should be offered freely to those without the serious diseases for which this was studied already, but that ship has seemingly sailed.
Guess we're gonna trial and error for that group...which will either reduce future SS and Medicare costs...or actually work as folks want...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (tOcjL)
Nausea (most common, reported in up to 1 in 5 people in clinical trials)
...
Diarrhea
I knew it. Avoid standing in back of fatties.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (abIsI)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (cxapi)
Posted by: The Legal Department at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM
Sudden Death, and Dry Mouth..
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (jc0TO)
Eat less, do more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (XV/Pl)
Obesity is the biggest healthcare cost in America. Getting people to lose weight is actually a great way to make healthcare cheaper and improve health outcomes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: Sigh at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (CnKLc)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (2WIwB)
Posted by: Denethor at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (/JT24)
I have speculated - and I believe research is currently being done - that patients who have Lipedema and/or Lymphedema NEED these medications to treat those conditions. It has been nothing short of miraculous for me and our daughter -
Oh, and Hello, Horde! 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (xqQi7)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:22 PM (MT/11)
I look forward to the German documentaries.
In Ontario, $100 copay then $4.11 a prescription.
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 06, 2025 01:22 PM (Sco7b)
Eat less, do more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM
Wake me up when amphetamines are removed.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:22 PM (jc0TO)
Midterms are coming up. We saw what happened yesterday. Time is not on the administration's side to be distracted with weight loss drugs when there are other, pressing matters.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 06, 2025 01:22 PM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: garrett at November 06, 2025 01:22 PM (UDyAS)
Tobacco is an American product. These prices are running them out of business.
Posted by: Case at November 06, 2025 01:16 PM (9HFDU)
Besides the state and federal (and local) taxes, the infrastructure build out demanded on growing, curing and packages by state and federal regulations, and the compliance cost of following every regulation imposed on the sale of tobacco products, the price of cigarettes had to be jacked up by the tobacco companies to pay for the court demanded payout settlements.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2025 01:22 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 06, 2025 01:23 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: I made myself fat,
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Yeah. One the one hand - obesity costs us all a LOT of money (through gov. funded healthcare and also higher insurance rates for all.)
On the other hand, we should just cut their EBT if they are fat and move the welfare offices to the 20th floor w/ no elevators. Make them shop up there too.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 06, 2025 01:23 PM (cxapi)
I'm still not sold that a med with this many side effects should be offered freely to those without the serious diseases for which this was studied already, but that ship has seemingly sailed.
Guess we're gonna trial and error for that group...which will either reduce future SS and Medicare costs...or actually work as folks want...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (tOcjL)
_______
I agree. This shit is now being used for people looking to lose 25 pounds. I think if you're truly obese you face so many medical problems already, and are likely to die young anyway, that using this shit to lose weight is worth the risk. But it's an insane cash cow and being pushed on vanities who don't want to do the work to lose 25 pounds.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:23 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 06, 2025 01:23 PM (cxapi)
Posted by: The Unseen Hand at November 06, 2025 01:24 PM (CnKLc)
Does he look like Randy Fine?
Worse... Chris Christie?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 06, 2025 01:24 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Judge Smails at November 06, 2025 01:24 PM (i24o9)
Eat better. Get the processed garbage out of the food chain. Exercise. Ozempic losses snap back as soon as you stop taking it. It's not a solution. And the mentality of those who will take a pill rather than doing the right thing to correct their problems is how we got here in the first place.
Posted by: red speck at November 06, 2025 01:24 PM (oylnX)
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Stomach (abdominal) pain
Upset stomach/indigestion/heartburn"
So basically like a trip to (insert name of least favorite Mexican food chain)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (0vB2I)
Cutting SNAP benefits should have cause the weight loss already.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (IifOV)
Posted by: Cautious Cal. at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (oftw2)
Um, nah, I don't think so. I guess I'll just keep shlepping along toward the day when people start confusing me with the late Sydney Greenstreet.
"Yes, Mr. Spade. Obtain the falcon honestly, if possible - but, in any event, expeditiously".
Posted by: Paco at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: Toto at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:18 PM (i24o9)
We set the world record for monthly crude production in Aug or Sept. I forget which.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (MT/11)
Obesity is the biggest healthcare cost in America. Getting people to lose weight is actually a great way to make healthcare cheaper and improve health outcomes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:20 PM (l3YAf)
But there are ways to that.
Outlawing all junk on SNAP and free school meals would be WAY cheaper and likely healthier than popping a pill. Mandating daily exercise in schools for 45-60 minutes daily would also help. I could go on, but there's ways to do it that are cheaper and healthier than pill popping for those without the serious diseases this was studied for.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (tOcjL)
Well, there’s more than one way to lose weight.
I had a dinner party one night with several guests and the next morning one of them called and said she was up all night with explosive diarrhea and asked if any of the other guests got sick. I was kind of offended as the implication it was the food I served but then I just laughed and said to her - it's the Ozempic you're on. And then she got embarrassed for even asking!
Posted by: beckster at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (I7J98)
Posted by: Jerry Saves at November 06, 2025 01:26 PM (J9BnM)
Often for cash.
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 06, 2025 01:26 PM (Sco7b)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 06, 2025 01:23 PM (CWTWj)
Mao, Khrushchev, Brezhnev.. Many of the commie leaders were chubby.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:26 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Wally at November 06, 2025 01:26 PM (WGVYq)
Maybe if we didn’t have a Big Government to inflate the costs of drugs and much else besides in medicine, maybe you wouldn’t be so pissed off at Pharma and other businesses that are related.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 06, 2025 01:26 PM (sVOFR)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 06, 2025 01:26 PM (/TtR4)
I want no part of it
New York, New York
These vagabond shoes, are longing to stray
Right out of the very heart of it
New York, New York
I wanna to wake up, in a city that doesn't reek
And find I'm king of the hill
Top of the heap
These NYC blues
Are melting away
I'll make a brand new start of it
Away from New York
If I can get out of there, I'll make it anywhere
F*** you, New York, New York
New York, New York
Posted by: Florida Moving Music! at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Toto at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM
What of the rains?
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (RZqm4)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (XeU6L)
Maybe in a few years when other people have tested it, but this seems very risky, long term.
Also, I think there will be pill forms soon. And more regulated with daily ingestion to reduce shock to system.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (cxapi)
With Ozempic, don't trust a fart. EVER.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 06, 2025 01:28 PM (IifOV)
Don't both of those drugs have rebound effects if you cease taking them (by rebound, I mean your weight bounces back up)? Making them, then, lifetime commitments and cash flow for the pharma companies.
Why those meds and not others with fewer deleterious effects? The world wonders.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 06, 2025 01:28 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Olestra at November 06, 2025 01:28 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: beckster at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (I7J9
Mandating daily exercise in schools.
Nothing solves problems like the point of a gun.
(we have these things called “families” and “parents”…
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 06, 2025 01:28 PM (sVOFR)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (abIsI)
How do you think the weight loss happens?
Posted by: Robert, the Love Walrus at November 06, 2025 01:28 PM (OhJab)
Posted by: n at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (I51o/)
Posted by: Comrade fd at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (RZqm4)
Pledge your allegiance.
https://youtu.be/X6Qmrs6EXps
Posted by: Judge Smails at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: PA Dutchman at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (31p00)
Posted by: Mr. Creosote at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (cxapi)
Posted by: Judge Smails at November 06, 2025 01:30 PM (i24o9)
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I've always had decent weight loss after such events.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at November 06, 2025 01:30 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 06, 2025 01:17 PM (0vB2I)
It's always some mundane detail...
Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 06, 2025 01:30 PM (lLeLE)
Posted by: PA Dutchman"
I'm pretty sure that stuff will make you turn gay.
Posted by: Comrade fd at November 06, 2025 01:30 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:30 PM (eQmnE)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:31 PM (MT/11)
Doesn't Ozempic give you explosive diarrhea?
Think of it not as a gift, but as a blessing!
"By their sharts shall ye know them"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 06, 2025 01:31 PM (xG4kz)
Ahh.
Go fuck yourself and everyone and everything you know.
Some people have tried for *decades* to lose weight, unsuccessfully.
Going so far as to develop eating disorders. But yeah, undisciplined.
Again, go fuck yourself, sideways, with a pineapple or 6.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:31 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (tOcjL)
Those are all good ideas, but don’t change the fact that obesity would still be rampant, unless you’re forcing adults to exercise. Lots of people pay for their own junk food.
You could ban junk food entirely. Banning non-diet soda would be a great step, but people would riot.
The fundamental problem is America is a country where we socialize the costs of bad choices but privatize the costs of good choices. People expect gov’t to pay for their healthcare, but they won’t take steps to improve their own health.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:31 PM (l3YAf)
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Avoid the after dinner mints.
Posted by: Mr. Creosote at November 06, 2025 01:29 PM (cxapi)
But it is waffer thin!
Posted by: Explosive, well, everything at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (TbWk/)
They're not new drugs...
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (t0Out)
Chipotle is cheaper.
Posted by: Judge Smails
Hold my Taco Bell
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (eQmnE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Frank Barone
Look, Fat, I haven't been able to trust a fart since 1980!
Posted by: Scranton Joe at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair"
No way. Sounds like a drag queen name.
Posted by: Comrade fd at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (vFG9F)
looked it up. OF COURSE people started abusing it and crushing it up and injecting it to ruin it for everyone else.
I admit it was euphoric, without jitters, and I reckon I probably skipped a meal studying. I liked that I felt taller, which was the main side effect. And way better than anal leakage. I am sure I aced the test the next day as I typically did no matter how I studied.
No, I would not drive feeling taller as I ain't stupid. Plus I am olde now and it would probably kill me, but a girl can dream.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (MAl//)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (vZUXb)
Posted by: Just got here at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (i0H14)
Going so far as to develop eating disorders. But yeah, undisciplined.
Again, go fuck yourself, sideways, with a pineapple or 6.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:31 PM (GfWuY)
You're beautiful and healthy at any size, Gargantuan Man.
Posted by: Not really at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (abIsI)
I think that was Olestra. Remember that oil substitute?
Posted by: Darrell Harris - Je Suis Charlie at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (0CU3H)
Imma still push you guys on cutting sugar
it's a freaking miracle AND you are free of cravings - most are due to sugar addiction
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: Toto at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM
Wow. My comprehension was racing ahead of what I was actually reading. I initially read that as "Mounjaro rises like Ozempic above the Spaghetti".
Posted by: Paco at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (mADJX)
Competition is the only way that consistently works to lower prices. Make it easier for other companies to come up with competing products and prices will come down.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (P7Iz+)
Well, since I'm 6'7" and 205 lbs...yeah, I'm beatiful and healthy.
Probably healthier than your dumb ass.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: CaliGir
Which is why I have suggested we ban every immigrant that is not 8 or better as determined by internets voting.
Posted by: n at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (I51o/)
That would suck
Posted by: Olestra at November 06, 2025 01:28 PM (Y1sOo)
Ah - you got there first!
Posted by: Darrell Harris - Je Suis Charlie at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (0CU3H)
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It's warnings like that which cause me to be extra cautious of these medications, since the possible side effects sound far, far worse than the "cure."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (IBQGV)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (bhI/5)
Posted by: Obligatory at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:35 PM (n9ltV)
See, I dunno.
Obesity is actually one of the worst things, for your health...period.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:35 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 01:35 PM (3qp0C)
Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slurp at November 06, 2025 01:35 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: Toto at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM
Wow. My comprehension was racing ahead of what I was actually reading. I initially read that as "Mounjaro rises like Ozempic above the Spaghetti".
hmm. has anyone notified weird al?
Posted by: anachronda at November 06, 2025 01:35 PM (sGtp+)
You could ban junk food entirely. Banning non-diet soda would be a great step, but people would riot.
The fundamental problem is America is a country where we socialize the costs of bad choices but privatize the costs of good choices. People expect gov’t to pay for their healthcare, but they won’t take steps to improve their own health.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:31 PM (l3YAf)
Only having the government make changes for where they are already paying. And yes, you'd still have fat people, but we will always have fat people. The goal is to reduce, not eliminate. And when government is the payer (like with SNAP and WIC and public schooling) that's the best place for pay.
You would hope what children have learned as kids would continue into adulthood. They'd never have been paid by fed gov the chance to develop an appetite for junk or sloth.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (abIsI)
I think that was Olestra. Remember that oil substitute?
Posted by: Darrell Harris - Je Suis Charlie at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (0CU3H)
"Anal leakage" was one of the listed side effects IIRC. Not a selling point.
Posted by: At least not outside of San Francisco at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (GfWuY)
Yeah, they have a pretty well-understood safety profile. I wouldn’t recommend them for people who need to lose 15 pounds, but obesity is a killer.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM (XeU6L)
You mean the MD who does my telehealth session, gets in a bit late, isn't my regular GP, doesn't get any of my labs posted on the shared records site, doesn't bother to read my recent chart, has no idea of my health history or needs, and tells me that a) I need a statin and b) any objection to his RX is due to my reading bad studies and c) I can't say anything about out of fear of yet another MD retaliating against me medically for doubting him?
Yep, that guy is a champ, I trust him implicitly to care for my health.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (rbvCR)
you're thinking of olestra, some kind of fake-fat frankenmolecule.
OR ANY OF THE LOW CARB SNACKS I EAT, which are loaded with sugar alcohols. I finally stopped (mostly) eating them the past few weeks and my goodness, I can't tell you how good it is to have solid stools for once.
seriously, if you're eating low carb snacks like atkins or carb smart or Quest, try taking a break.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: gKWVE at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (p4Gz+)
Posted by: Toto at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM
What of the rains?
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:27 PM
Separately, or in toto?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (0sNs1)
I think that was Olestra. Remember that oil substitute?
Posted by: Darrell Harris - Je Suis Charlie at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (0CU3H)
That shit was crap. I put it in my lawnmower, and the engine seized up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (npFr7)
Tobacco is an American product. These prices are running them out of business.
actually, great idea
helps with focus and weight loss too
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It also protects you from COVID.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (jFCkp)
Why?
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (GfWuY)
Because you were asked to
Posted by: It's me donna at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (OGYUC)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (JDH8J)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (2NHgQ)
Which is why I have suggested we ban every immigrant that is not 8 or better as determined by internets voting.
Posted by: n at November 06, 2025 01:34 PM (I51o/)
Can we have a minimum IQ also?
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (vZUXb)
Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz Will Return for “The Mummy 4” From Universal
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: beckster at November 06, 2025 01:25 PM (I7J9
Mandating daily exercise in schools.
Nothing solves problems like the point of a gun.
(we have these things called “families” and “parents”…
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To be fair, my friend is 78 and went on it primarily because of diabetes but she also wanted to lose 30 pounds........she was thin most of her life until the metabolism finally slowed down......
Posted by: beckster at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (I7J98)
Posted by: Guy who brags about his bad-ass BMs at November 06, 2025 01:38 PM (1wjle)
Going so far as to develop eating disorders. But yeah, undisciplined.
Get another job and maybe try moving into a flat, it's tough going but we've all been through it. You're just a whiny kid that wants everything now!
Your problems aren't real!
Posted by: Conservative Messaging at November 06, 2025 01:38 PM (CnKLc)
Which comment specifically, should I dial back?
The one that responded to the asshat that assumed I was fat? Or the other one?
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:38 PM (GfWuY)
Hey! Where my damn EBT card at? I need me some mo' Doritos! And grape Nehi!
Posted by: Shaniqua at November 06, 2025 01:38 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:38 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (MT/11)
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (GfWuY)
Because you are being far too aggressive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (n9ltV)
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (oiNtH)
By the time I started on it in 2022, Mounjaro had been in testing and trials for over a decade.
I didn't start this without some serious "due diligence". I haven't had any side effects. Well, except for decreased appetite, which was sort of the whole point.
Everyone on the early forums talked about "food noise" being gone for the first time in their lives. I found that to be the case as well
Mind you, when I was a kid/teenager, I only weighed 100 pounds dripping wet. SOMETHING happened to change my metabolism when I hit 18. I had Lipedema and didn't know it.
Ironically, a low-fat, high grain-based diet - like the one that was pushed so long by "experts" seems to have been the catalyst for massive obesity over the past 20-30 years.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (SRRAx)
It's warnings like that which cause me to be extra cautious of these medications, since the possible side effects sound far, far worse than the "cure."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Well, in every case, the every action of the pharmaceutical is a 'side effect'. It is up to the physician and patient to make decisions in that regard. I reiterate, it is the wholesale promotion of precription drugs that disturbs me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (XeU6L)
It is often one's own bad habits that cause obesity, but not always, and you don't know the backstory behind every person you see.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (gKWVE)
Pain in the ass I know but it works.
Posted by: Ripley at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (GUOwU)
Posted by: one hour sober at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (Y1sOo)
seriously, if you're eating low carb snacks like atkins or carb smart or Quest, try taking a break.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:36 PM (1wjle)
Skip the sugar free gummy bears. Your colon will thank you.
Posted by: The reviews are epic and terrifying at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Side effects may include: coronary heart disease, stroke, hypertension, hyperthyroidism, pulmonary embolism, weight gain, weight loss, and gas.
All for a Vitamin C pill?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (eQmnE)
Posted by: Frank Barone
Look, Fat, I haven't been able to trust a fart since 1980!
Posted by: Scranton Joe at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (oftw2)
Jerry Nadler has entered the chat.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (hlNLQ)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XcvKDK7irs4
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:38 PM (1wjle)
A barter economy!
Practicing for The Burning Times!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (MT/11)
Olestra was weird. The chips had an unnatural, greasy feeling and taste.
They never gave me gastro issues, though.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (l3YAf)
I googled it. Ingredients are apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, and pink salt. I already add apple cider vinegar and lemon juice to my daily Mio or Powerade Zero. Zero extra weight loss. The internet ad lied to me, what?!
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 06, 2025 01:32 PM (XeU6L)
Work should be a component to get people off the couches at the very least.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (hlNLQ)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (MT/11)
That's the shits, man.
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Yeesh at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: J. Random Penguin at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (BI5O2)
Can we have a minimum IQ also?
Posted by: CaliGirl
Yeah, and no ladies with mustaches, sideburns, or hairy backs.
Posted by: Waxing Nostalgic at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (oftw2)
It is often one's own bad habits that cause obesity, but not always, and you don't know the backstory behind every person you see.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 06, 2025 01:39 PM (gKWVE)
I don't care if anyone takes it and whatever works for you is fine but what I've witnessed is every housewife I know that I would call skinny got even thinner using these drugs. It's like the new Fen Fen or adderall for their "adhd" but they really want to stay skinny.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (vZUXb)
youtu.be/05eEgXfvFZI
Posted by: gKWVE at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (hlNLQ)
Well, doing triathlons is a bit more dedication than most people have in them.
[Yes, I am jealous!]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (n9ltV)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (znHU2)
... America's Team tm
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:42 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 06, 2025 01:15 PM (abIsI)
I know we do !
Posted by: Taco Bell Cravings Box at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Case at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (9HFDU)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (hlNLQ)
Congratulations!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: not sure at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (r82Kk)
Really? Why?
Posted by: garrett at
i had a major health problem I've avoided discussing and the doc said "Hey you might be eligible for Mounjaro" so I said why not. But... it wasn't covered and I would have to pay $1400 per month or $550 with a discount (for as long as they were willing to discount it, which could just be a few months).
basically I will take any drug or supplement to try to lose weight, boost testosterone, improve focus, etc. I am not a crunchy-natural kind of guy. Any pharmaceutical intervention, I will give it a go.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (NZEBW)
Posted by: n"
In the case of young latinas we have to get a look at her mother.
Posted by: Ripley at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (GUOwU)
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM
LizLem, the Internet never lies. Ze can trust moi!
Posted by: The French Model at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (Sco7b)
Thank you for a good laugh out loud.
Sounds like what I think I hear on occasion.
Now I'm picturing Biden saying it in a welcome to dignitaries from Africa.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (enw9G)
High-carb diets are peasant diets, meant for working all day in the fields. If you have a desk job, they’re brutal.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: not sure at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (r82Kk)
Wait...what? Like you grow one or something?
Posted by: The new drug for trannies? at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (TbWk/)
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Pro Tip - go with Quaaludes.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (jFCkp)
Olestra was weird. The chips had an unnatural, greasy feeling and taste.
They never gave me gastro issues, though.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Wow!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (pkeXY)
This place.
Posted by: Yeesh at November 06, 2025 01:41 PM (i0H14)
Gotta have solid stools. If the leg breaks off, you'll fall over, and then the cow will kick you.
Posted by: The Milkmaid at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (vZUXb)
I have seen a few of her video shorts...she is ridiculously good, and ridiculously adorable.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (n9ltV)
Posted by: Darrell Harris - Je Suis Charlie at November 06, 2025 01:33 PM (0CU3H)
Years ago I had to rescue a girlfriend at work who ate some potato chips with olestra and she had a major diarrhea explosion soiling her clothes. Luckily her office was right by the restrooms and she was able to sneak back and call me. I drove to her house and got her a new set of clothes to wear. She did lose a little "weight" that day.
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (oiNtH)
yeah I keep seeing things claimed to be "as powerful as GLP-1"
I think I just tried one for a few days, forget what it was, I got bored and stopped
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:35 PM (GfWuY)
it is also something that is blamed widely on being lazy, greedy and undisciplined.
you know, like being depressed
I liked Woody Allen's joke about how he went to a therapy retreat for depression and neuroticism where the therapy was mostly being required to sit in unpadded straight chairs in an unheated room for extended periods, not allowed breaks for water or the bathroom while the group leader stalked among them yelling about how the patients should cheer up.
Reminds me of why I gave up trying to get better.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (rbvCR)
ugh those things are junk, Ace!
low carb ye but processed crap NO
jerky, cheese sticks, fruit/veg (well, certain fruits), yogurt, meat, nuts (but not too many legumes), I do some rice but try to keep it minimal (and white, which suprisingly is better than brown!)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: Case at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM
You want me to, how you say, cut back so significantly?
Posted by: Paolo at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (0sNs1)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XcvKDK7irs4
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (Da7Vv)
____
Nice but I like my girls' legs -- and overall shape -- more obviously feminine. I did date a ballet dancer once. She too was thin, at times painfully so, but overall had a feminine shape. Think Misty Copeland.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)
heh. I don't do party drugs. Just natural healthy shit like SARMs and turkestorone.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:46 PM (1wjle)
All for a Vitamin C pill?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:40 PM (eQmnE)
My two favorite side effects from past drug ads (I forget which) are...anal leakage and ...Death. Heh. Especially when they're associated with something like stopping restless leg syndrome.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 06, 2025 01:46 PM (JDH8J)
Posted by: Sidney at November 06, 2025 01:46 PM (dW7Of)
·
48m
BREAKING: A judge will order federal agents in Chicago to restrict using force against protesters and media.
Posted by: Don Black at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (AOsQT)
Mamdani Only Won the Votes of 14% of NYC Adults
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Only 28% of the NYC electorate voted. The rest were like whatever, dude.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (Sm0sq)
Thank you for a good laugh out loud.
Sounds like what I think I hear on occasion.
Now I'm picturing Biden saying it in a welcome to dignitaries from Africa.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (enw9G)
LOL
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (MAl//)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (1wjle)
yeah I keep seeing things claimed to be "as powerful as GLP-1"
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:45 PM (1wjle)
__________
"Why they be, how you say, talk about my erection like that?"
-- The Paolo
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: not sure at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (r82Kk)
You grow a vulva?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (i24o9)
The ADL leads an organization with funding from Charles Koch and George Soros to replace the US Constitution with pure democracy. It targeted Charlie Kirk as a major enemy and was tied up with Merrick Garland, Susan Rice, and David French (LOL!).
https://tinyurl.com/yycjpytc
Posted by: Ian S. at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (aUxYo)
Posted by: haribo gummy bears at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (rJ48h)
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:44 PM (jFCkp)
Major labs for production of quaaludes in the US were in the Madgalena valley in Northern Colombia. The organizations that ran the labs moved to processing coca paste, from Peru and Bolivia, into cocaine in the 80's
Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (2UnvF)
In hindsight, probably wasn’t smart to use the $600/ month medication to get off the ones that were $9/month.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (MT/11)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (hlNLQ)
heh. I don't do party drugs. Just natural healthy shit like SARMs and turkestorone.
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Ace, Quaaludes will make you happy cuz reasons.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (jFCkp)
Posted by: Linda Rondstat at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (i0H14)
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (Da7Vv)
Thank you for a good laugh out loud.
Sounds like what I think I hear on occasion. - barbarausa
The problem is...now I'm hungry for spaghetti!
Posted by: Paco at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: Don Black
That is done to encourage force by protesters, including those wearing "media" jackets.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (Sco7b)
In a country with 47 million on SNAP because they're most likely to f*cking lazy to work, Fatty McFattyPants can now get cheaper drugs to lose some weight while sitting on their couch, binge watching Love After Lockup and eating steak and lobster on the taxpayer dime.
Wonderful. Priorities, man.....Priorities.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM (i24o9)
it is also something that is blamed widely on being lazy, greedy and undisciplined.
you know, like being depressed
Yep.
I'm not/have NEVER been overweight. Used to be of the mindset "it's just calories in/calories out." Until someone I care very much for struggled with weight for decades. No matter what they did, they couldn't lose the weight. They weren't eating an excessive amount, were even doing things like crossfit 3-5 times a week, and could not lose the weight.
It got to the point where it was physically so dangerous to them that they are paying out of pocket (as ace said, $550 a month with a coupon) for these drugs. It's been a godsend. They've lost 100 lbs on them. Yes, they'll likely have to take them the rest of their life, and as long as they're not experience the worst side effects, that's ok. This price thing helps tremendously. *tremendously*.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (GfWuY)
224 Re: fainting- I had several episodes of the darkness closing in- fortunately, at the time I worked from home and was able to get down before going down- assume it was more from lack of calories than the ozempic.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (hlNLQ)
Sounds like a low sugar episode.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (tOcjL)
It is SO good! And I know it's clean because it's from scratch. But I probably eat too much of it.
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (Eng1Z)
Mamdani Only Won the Votes of 14% of NYC Adults
Only 28% of the NYC electorate voted. The rest were like whatever, dude.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
When the choice is Granny Killer or Islamakiller, hard to get excited.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (eQmnE)
If I had anal leakage in public I'd die quickly afterwards to distract from the first issue. Plus I'd be dead and not have to remember it.
I mostly need to get off my arse and exercise and it will take care of things. I read after age 45yrs that rapid weight loss will result in hanging skin and I sho' don't need that, either.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (MAl//)
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I haven't found that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:21 PM (L/fGl)
Look behind you.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: and Chicago are just the ones to do it at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Dave's not here at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (kp5iD)
224 Re: fainting- I had several episodes of the darkness closing in- fortunately, at the time I worked from home and was able to get down before going down- assume it was more from lack of calories than the ozempic.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:48 PM (hlNLQ)
Sounds like a low sugar episode.
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Are you on blood thinners?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (jFCkp)
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM
King Harv is beneficent.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: ace
Does Turk keep your test from crashing for a long time while on SARMs bc I know from pros using SARMs you are suppose to run 200-3300mgs of test with SARMs to prevent damage.
Posted by: not sure at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (r82Kk)
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (RHGPo)
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No Fountains of Chocolate?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (jFCkp)
Because the minority of Americans who are net positive economically productive subsidize the whole world. Whether it’s drugs, or the welfare state, USAID, playing World Police, or creating breakthroughs in science and technology.
With drugs it’s pretty simple: if they weren’t cheap, the Europoors wouldn’t be able to afford them, and they’d be more expensive for Americans, or financially unviable.
It’s the same as selling HIV drugs in Africa for pennies.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (l3YAf)
so you can say that but when I lost a ton of weight, my energy went way up.
Another way to say that is: When I was heavy, I had low energy, which was a big impediment to doing exercise (or most other work) and which in turn made me gain more weight.
Obesity is a syndrome that enforces and expands the syndrome and protects the syndrome from being undone.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (1wjle)
CLASSIC Lipedema, but nobody knew that back then.
The Hell of it is, that the body/s6stem of a person with Lipedema keeps craving more and more "fuel" to keep things going, and it is RELENTLESS.
So yes, there are people who are just fat pigs, but my guess is that more of them have undiagnosed Lipedema.
And FTR, Lipedema is a Connective Tissue Disorder. Go to lipedema.org to find out more about it before you lump everyone into the "Fat and Lazy" category, please.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (SRRAx)
Posted by: Farmer Bob
🎵Hello darkness my old friend
I stood up too quickly once again 🎶
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (eQmnE)
I'd far rather you try Mounjaro than the fasting honestly
and if you WANT to try the low/no sugar thing, maybe start with liquids. no sweetener in coffee or tea, plain ice tea, no juices. see how that goes first before going the whole way.
but eat whole foods not stuff that is "made" by a massive chemical process into tubes!!!! look for fewer than 20 ingredients lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM
Depends. Do you look at your shoes or the other person's shoes when you're talking to someone?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (0sNs1)
i don't really know, I didn't see big results from either and just stopped. I'm going to try the turkestorone again when/if I start lifting again.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (1wjle)
It's funny how whenever smart people create something that actually works, a bunch of dumb people will come out of the woodwork and claim their thing works just as well. Cletus, if your thing worked, everyone would know your name and everyone would be using your thing.
Then the conspiracy theories start flowing.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 06, 2025 01:53 PM (Yp6az)
Way to live a stereotype, African American professional athlete.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: not sure at November 06, 2025 01:43 PM (r82Kk)
You grow a vulva?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
Dryness, less elasticity, labia and vulva shrinkage, ect…
Posted by: not sure at November 06, 2025 01:53 PM (r82Kk)
"I call it the fat drug ... we're offering it at drastic discounts."
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:53 PM (RHGPo)
so you can say that but when I lost a ton of weight, my energy went way up.
Posted by: ace
Theirs is a mindset.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (eQmnE)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:49 PM
Depends. Do you look at your shoes or the other person's shoes when you're talking to someone?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (0sNs1)
Well, if the Ozempic vulva pans out . . . .
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (MT/11)
and if you WANT to try the low/no sugar thing, maybe start with liquids. no sweetener in coffee or tea, plain ice tea, no juices. see how that goes first before going the whole way.
but eat whole foods not stuff that is "made" by a massive chemical process into tubes!!!! look for fewer than 20 ingredients lol
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (emBoF)
You're nice - when it comes to snacks, look for less than 10 ingredients...I mean 1-2 is best...
Like a jar of peanuts tends to be peanuts and salt.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (tOcjL)
Could be a low blood pressure thing. That's never any fun.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (GfWuY)
Can't fit through the bathroom door
Fatty and Skinny went to bed
Fatty rolled over and Skinny was dead
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (HXT0k)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:37 PM (L/fGl)
There was a 2 and 3?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (3qp0C)
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What fun would that be?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (jFCkp)
Dozens of lower court judges are accused of making anonymous statements to the New York Times for an article it published titled “Federal Judges, Warning of ‘Judicial Crisis,’ Fault Supreme Court’s Emergency Orders.”
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (Sco7b)
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (Eng1Z)
It is even cheaper if you buy your own flour, yeast, salt and malt. You can also add in your own additions if you want to expand into other grains, or add in additions.
There is a learning curve, so first go to the King Arthur website and get some recipes that look both interesting and within your current skill level.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (rbvCR)
I have not ever been overweight BUT I had "low blood sugar" episodes since childhood.
now that I'm sugar free that never, ever happens. so ... interesting huh?
you have to break the cycle. sugar is poison.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (emBoF)
I'm guessing his harem will NOT be as attractive as the ones in Trump's cabinet.
His wife was pretty at his acceptance speech, very Audrey Hepburn chic with her little black dress and bob. His mom wore a sari in his campaign colors and looked nice. But they are both in the art and entertainment worlds so they know how to be on brand.
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:50 PM (Eng1Z)
Fresh homemade bread is fantastic! And my downfall.
I love to bake sourdough, and I have to restrain myself because I would happily eat a half loaf a day with tons of butter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (n9ltV)
It was a SCHIZOPHRENIA medication that has one of it's side effects as 'increased appetite.'
Yeah, no. WTF, medical community.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Don Black at November 06, 2025 01:47 PM (AOsQT)
"Ellis, who began Thursday’s hearing by describing Chicago as a “vibrant place” and reading from poet Carl Sandburg’s famous poem about the city, said it is “simply untrue” that the Chicago area is a violent place of rioters"
Great. Here's the thing, if they truly are "peaceful protesters and media" who are not obstructing or interfering then they should be left alone. However what we keep seeing on camera no less are these "peaceful protesters" swarming and blocking ICE vehicles and physically interjecting themselves into arrests. But that doesn't happen because Carl Sandberg wrote a poem extolling Chicago in 1916.
Posted by: Grounds for appeal right there at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:51 PM (RHGPo)
___
That was inevitable. There are warehouses and warehouses full of contract whiskey -- enough to last years. As a big whiskey fan, even I think there are far too many brands and far too many sellers and stock to support the market.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (iFTx/)
There was a 2 and 3?
Mummy 2 was a continuation
Mummy 3 was a Chinese mummy
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (RHGPo)
His wife was pretty at his acceptance speech, very Audrey Hepburn chic with her little black dress and bob. His mom wore a sari in his campaign colors and looked nice. But they are both in the art and entertainment worlds so they know how to be on brand.
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (Eng1Z)
All women in his administration will be required to wear the trashbag.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)
well me too Nova but trying to ease him in
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (emBoF)
dizziness/feeling faint -- I get that when I fast and my body starts peeing out a lot of water, to the point where I have low blood pressure due to low blood volume (less water in the blood, etc.)
when I fast I have to take electrolytes and drink a lot. Like, more than I want to.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 01:54 PM (MT/11)
Or an Italian soup.
Posted by: Pastafaggyoly. What a name. at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (TbWk/)
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This sounds like Menopause. Shrinkage might be a plus?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (jFCkp)
I feel a hell of a lot better than when I am taking the shit that ostensibly should be making me feel and do better.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (W+sPf)
Can also be low blood pressure or sometimes even high blood pressure. If it happens after standing very likely a blood pressure problem.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (Da7Vv)
Any word on their virginal status? - Posted by: Stateless
Are we talking a "Dance of the Seven Veils" type of vibe, or does the team consist of women who look like thick bolts of nylon fabric?
Posted by: Paco at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: Esperman at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (8MPpG)
Posted by: Jerry at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (U6jQc)
I love to bake sourdough, and I have to restrain myself because I would happily eat a half loaf a day with tons of butter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (n9ltV)
One of the few things I miss from my childhood. My mom used to bake bread all the time.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)
you have to break the cycle. sugar is poison.
good! but, I don't have much sugar at all. Almost zero. I do have stevia and sucralose in coffee and diet sodas. (Oh, and the blasted sugar alcohols when I had atkins candy.)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (1wjle)
when I fast I have to take electrolytes and drink a lot. Like, more than I want to.
We could form a support group, except mine is just *general*.
It's fun to stand up and then grab onto anything nearby as the edges of the vision close in.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (GfWuY)
and eat right!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (emBoF)
I've only ever heard Greg Doucette talk about turkesterone. I haven't tried it. I do take creatine every day.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (Yp6az)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (FVO67)
Selling for $0.10 /pill in Europe makes sense if you’re still turning a profit on each pill, because you’re tapping into a market that you wouldn’t get if you sold for $5 /pill everywhere on Earth.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: bonhomme at November 06, 2025 01:53 PM (Yp6az)
My carburetor design will triple MPG, but GM and Ford stole it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...automotive engineer at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (n9ltV)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
There was a 2 and 3?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
The Mummy
The Mummy Returns
The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor
RW wasn't in #3.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (eQmnE)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
We did. You're welcome.
Posted by: Standard Oil at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (a+4eV)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (hlNLQ)
like many other things, it's supposed to be some kind of steroid-like compound that is not yet banned. I think it's made from crushed shells of beetles or something gnarly like that.
I didn't really see any particular effect. So it's not like real steroids.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:59 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (znHU2)
I googled it. Ingredients are apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, and pink salt. I already add apple cider vinegar and lemon juice to my daily Mio or Powerade Zero. Zero extra weight loss. The internet ad lied to me, what?!
Posted by: LizLem
For an extra $29 I’ll tell you the secrets of beating Wall St.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (3qp0C)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (hlNLQ)
You are a machine!!
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (vZUXb)
Posted by: ace
Try monk fruit. It's a natural sweetener. My wife, before she passed, did monk fruit to help control onset of diabetes.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (eQmnE)
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What better way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that clown judge is a clown judge.
These judges are embarrassing--why not just write in crayon and smear shit on the order?
It can't be any worse that quoting a fucking poem.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (HXT0k)
You really do have to drink water and get enough fiber. Like, it’s not optional. And taking a high dose so you lose weight faster can get really bad.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (MT/11)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (jc0TO)
you have to break the cycle. sugar is poison.
good! but, I don't have much sugar at all. Almost zero. I do have stevia and sucralose in coffee and diet sodas. (Oh, and the blasted sugar alcohols when I had atkins candy.)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (1wjle)
Fake sugar can be as bad or worse than real sugar, especially if used in highly processed products. I'd walk away from diet soda if possible - you just take in so much of the fake sugar in that...and your cravings for the real thing get worse...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Farmer Bob
🎵Hello darkness my old friend
I stood up too quickly once again 🎶
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 01:52 PM (eQmnE)
I had a "done fall out" aka passed out on our stairs once. Right after bedrest for a fx foot. Granted I was so excited to be up again that I did not hydrate, but I also find if I am concentrating on doing something physically I hold my breath. The ED doc, after many tests and brain scans (I have one), said she gets syncope and to lie down (not in the street) with legs elevated. Tighten all large muscles in arms and legs, and take deep breaths.
An exciting time as I could feel myself blacking out while sitting on the stairs. Sent my husband for juice. He returned with cranberry juice to find me with my head back & eyes open. Thought I was joking around and panicked.I woke to see cranberry juice all over the new wood foyer and thought, wth, arterial bleed? Got hauled off by burly paramedics and needed an IV to get my BP up.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (MAl//)
For decades we have allowed foreign governments to force us to subsidize them by putting price controls on US drugs under the threat of refusing to honor our patents - forcing US companies to do business at a loss
The feds need to nix that shit and use trade policy leverage to assrape anyone engaging in that bullshit. The other big angle is medicare/medicaid pricing nonsense
Posted by: heya at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (6SZeR)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (g47mK)
youtu.be/05eEgXfvFZI
can't check from work, so i'm'a just assume its a double-wide in the trailer park.
Posted by: anachronda at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 01:58 PM (1wjle)
You did keto, right? Carbs in bread/rice can be nearly as bad as refined sugar if you’re insulin resistant.
Many of those sugar alcohols still stimulate blood glucose. Have you ever monitored your glucose, either with fingersticks or a continuous glucose monitor?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (l3YAf)
oh yeah I do them all
has anyone experienced this--? Allulose doesn't taste sweet to me. I can dump a ton into coffee and barely taste sweetness.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 02:02 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Yay for Brendan getting his career back after being the victim of predatory men in Hollywood, plus his injury. Maybe Rachel needs the extra money since her hubby is no longer Bond. I don't know how well the Knives Out franchise is paying him.
I loved the first Mummy movie, they had crazy chemistry.
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 02:02 PM (Eng1Z)
It can't be any worse that quoting a fucking poem.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (HXT0k)
Written by a guy who's been dead a LONG time and never saw what they did to the shithole.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Or even if the cost is lowered, unfortunately.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 06, 2025 02:02 PM (nBNUK)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (MT/11)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (iFTx/)
Hopefully the bubble will burst and Bourbon will return to semi-sane prices.
I want to try Weller Antique, but no f*cking way am I going to spend $175/bottle.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...automotive engineer at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (n9ltV)
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You know whose farts are really bad for Gaia? Illegal aliens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)
sorry the fake sugars are bad too
honey or maple syrup in TINY amounts, maybe
I avoid all of it
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (emBoF)
Also right wing boomers: ooooh government subsidized weight loss drugs for Medicare? I love you Mr Trump!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (3qp0C)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
YES!!!!!!!
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)
Tried that once. Fucking disgusting, like Stevia. Ruins whatever you put it in.
Posted by: Most of that shit is nasty at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (jc0TO)
The fasting is mostly just mind over matter. And I feel significantly more energized at the end of a fast.
Posted by: Paco at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (mADJX)
Even Kurt Schlichter is angsty:
""It's the economy, stupid." Yeah, it is. The economy is coming back, but you don't feel it yet unless you own a lot of NASDAQ stock. The driver of the economy is negative – people vote on it when it is bad. People think it's bad today. ... The Republicans have to get this economy cooking – fortunately, they can do it."
Posted by: gp at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (7imtn)
Posted by: Esperman
Yikes!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (Wx316)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM (g47mK
When i was a kid in the 50s-60- I knew maybe 10 obese people, whites and blacks.
Posted by: Eromero at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (jgmnb)
stop the sweeteners and your palate will change
you know you're in a good place when you can eat a slice of grapefruit and it tastes like orange!
that's how humans were for a long time. your taste buds will evolve back. I find almonds hard to eat now - too sweet.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (emBoF)
Posted by: brak at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2025 02:02 PM (1wjle)
I found that gradually decreasing the amount of sugar in my coffee has allowed me to cut it in half, and I never even noticed.
I think the sugar substitutes are strange tasting, and I am willing to tolerate a teaspoon of sugar/day.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...automotive engineer at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (n9ltV)
It's not really about the subsidization...
It's about the perception of being screwed over, like you enjoy pointing out about the younger generations (not a boomer here, btw).
You know, like Americans paying over 1k a month for these drugs, while someone in Europe is paying under $100.
That kind of thing.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (eQmnE)
Love monkfruit! A little goes a long way. I made the mistake of making bread with monkfruit instead of real sugar though. The yeast did NOT like the fake sugar, wouldn't eat it, all I got out of the bread machine was a hardened lump of baked doorstop. Never again.
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (Da7Vv)
I remember a funny like from the late comedian, Jackie Vernon: "My doctor took me off sugar and put me on sugar substitutes. Now I have artificial diabetes".
Posted by: Paco at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (g47mK)
Jigger? Please!
Posted by: Mmmm...Bourbon... at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: brak at November 06, 2025 02:05 PM (jGJov)
HERETIC!!!!!!!
Posted by: Fatty McFatterson at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)
honey or maple syrup in TINY amounts, maybe
I avoid all of it
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (emBoF)
I was gonna suggest the same 2 natural sugars. Add a touch of real stuff to Ace's coffee and skip all the diet soda, even if he adds extra coffee to his diet to replace all the soda b/c he doesn't want just plain water...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Granny McRictus-Fun Bags at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (ed+JY)
Wtf is turkestrone? It sounds like a cold cut.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Testosterone from turkeys.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2025 02:06 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:07 PM (g47mK)
It's about the perception of being screwed over, like you enjoy pointing out about the younger generations (not a boomer here, btw).
You know, like Americans paying over 1k a month for these drugs, while someone in Europe is paying under $100.
That kind of thing.
Posted by: GMan
That’s valid. But these drugs are luxury items. Housing isn’t.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 02:07 PM (3qp0C)
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
Dayum. I'm glad it wasn't an arterial bleed.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 02:07 PM (eQmnE)
But you cannot escape simple physics and thermodynamics: it is not possible to gain weight by breathing. They *are* eating something to convert to fat. The magical fat fairy is not visiting them at night, and there are further refinements to diet possible, often what you eat vs quantity. It may not seem fair that it is harder for them, but keep in perspective that 3/4 of a century ago almost NOBODY was overweight.
It is diet, exercise, and the types of environmental exposure issues people like to pick on RFK jr about
If the new drugs prove safe long term that is great and for some people it's very difficult, but don't let anyone tell you they literally can't
Posted by: heya at November 06, 2025 02:07 PM (6SZeR)
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 02:07 PM (Eng1Z)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
......
Kinda like eating at Subway.
Posted by: wth at November 06, 2025 02:08 PM (v0R5T)
Another genius thought! Diet and exercise doesn't necessarily work for everyone. Also, there's a point at which it will begin to look hopeless (i.e. at some point you realize it will take a *decade* to get to the point where you're not considered obese) and then what? Obesity also makes it a LOT harder to exercise...but hey, screw those people, right?
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 02:08 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:08 PM (jc0TO)
==
He got it all together now. Looked fit last time he was in the press.
It's true!
"Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz are reuniting for a new installment of "The Mummy" franchise, with both actors in talks to reprise their roles from the original films. The new movie will be directed by the filmmaking team known as Radio Silence."
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:08 PM (g47mK)
It can't be any worse that quoting a fucking poem.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 06, 2025 02:00 PM (HXT0k)
More accurate if the fuckstick had quoted Jim Croce's "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown"...
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at November 06, 2025 02:08 PM (JDH8J)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 01:56 PM (iFTx/)
Hopefully the bubble will burst and Bourbon will return to semi-sane prices.
I want to try Weller Antique, but no f*cking way am I going to spend $175/bottle.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...automotive engineer at November 06, 2025 02:03 PM (n9ltV)
_____
I think the bubble has burst on a lot of the middle stuff, which I'm seeing great sales on. What was usually $75-100 can now be often found for 20% less. But the high-end stuff is very limited and thus expensive. But I'm seeing sales on even stuff like Mac 18 sherry cask. That's normally over $400, but I've seen it at $330.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
......
Kinda like eating at Subway.
Posted by: wth at November 06, 2025 02:08 PM (v0R5T)
A second look at Olestra?
Posted by: Fatty McFatterson at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: runner at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (g47mK)
Or even if the cost is lowered, unfortunately.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 06, 2025 02:02 PM (nBNUK)
The cost is in the injector I am told. Try seeing what a compounding pharmacy can offer you.
or drink Maté, it is supposed to boost the GLPs
Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (rbvCR)
Lactulose tastes great. Prescription laxative.
Tagatose really good. Blew out my colon, although I think I was building up a tolerance. But it’s not easy to get because of the colon blowdown thing.
Allulose not that sweet and tastes okay, but you have to use a lot and too much leads to the colon blowdown thing.
All the rest taste like shit.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (MT/11)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 02:09 PM (hlNLQ)
And at these proposed/new prices they'll STILL be luxury items, but ones that are more affordable to Americans, as they should be. Americans should not be subsidizing luxuries for Europe, right?
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 02:10 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 06, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)
Oof. Have you seen Fraser lately? He’s a wreck.
Posted by: Granny McRictus-Fun Bags
Dumbass nearly killed himself by doing all of his own stunts. Leave that shit to the professionals.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 02:10 PM (eQmnE)
Posted by: gp at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (7imtn)
Brendan Fraser's back injury is due to years of performing his own stunts, which required a laminectomy and other surgeries. The "fat" aspect of his recent public image relates to his role in the 2022 film The Whale, where he wore a prosthetic fat suit weighing up to 300 pounds to portray a 600-pound character, which impacted his mobility on set. His subsequent weight loss was a gradual process driven by his return to health, which involved a focus on exercise, diet, and mental well-being.
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (Eng1Z)
Some of them have odd aftertastes, but I’ve bern drinking diet soda so long that actual sugar tastes gross to me. It leaves a sticky feeling in my mouth that doesn’t go away.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (l3YAf)
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More money for Swiss Rolls, Yodels, and Ding Dongs. Ice Cream Swiss Rolls too, I suppose.
Posted by: scampydog at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (2bFN5)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Think of it as pharmaceutical-grade Taco Bell.
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (6VEkT)
Oof. Have you seen Fraser lately? He’s a wreck.
Posted by: Granny McRictus-Fun Bags
Dumbass nearly killed himself by doing all of his own stunts. Leave that shit to the professionals.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 06, 2025 02:10 PM (eQmnE)
_________
"Yea, right?"
-- Jackie Chan
-- Michele Yeoh
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at November 06, 2025 01:55 PM (n9ltV)
One of the few things I miss from my childhood. My mom used to bake bread all the time.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
I know it's hard to believe but there's actually a good show on CNN, Tony Shalhoub Breaking Bread. Tony goes around the world discovering different breads. This week, he went to his home town in Wisconsin and it was so wholesome it made The Waltons look like perverts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 02:12 PM (L/fGl)
*This*
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 02:12 PM (GfWuY)
Posted by: LizLem at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (Eng1Z)
BLASPHEME!!!!!!
You'll be hearing from our lawyers.
Posted by: Big Pharma at November 06, 2025 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Now that my deductible is in place, I pay nothing.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 06, 2025 02:12 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 02:12 PM (hlNLQ)
I did this. Thanks to cancer I only have one testicle. I'm also 48. I had to doctor shop, but I got a prescription for a small dose. 0.25 ml every two weeks of a 200 Mg/ml solution injected into my leg. It made a big difference.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 06, 2025 02:12 PM (Yp6az)
Posted by: Just the punchline at November 06, 2025 02:13 PM (STF7D)
"Yea, right?"
-- Jackie Chan
-- Michele Yeoh
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM (iFTx/)
Pikers.
Posted by: Tom Cruise at November 06, 2025 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 06, 2025 02:13 PM (GhIJO)
Posted by: gp at November 06, 2025 02:13 PM (7imtn)
Someone's laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Oh Lord, kumbaya
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (RHGPo)
Drink. Coffee. Black. Triple espresso.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (QUttH)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:01 PM
With Pumping Iron, you can have both!
Posted by: Ahnold at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (Nh3aA)
the holidays are just around the corner!
Posted by: ho ho hos at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM
Is Lamont there?
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:15 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (Nh3aA)
The First Daughter works at Chuy's.
Posted by: Tom Cruise at November 06, 2025 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 02:10 PM (GfWuY)
Right.
It’s available for free on Medicaid. So a free luxury for Shaniqua and Honey Boo boo.
My initial post was somewhat tongue in cheek. Because most people don’t get into the specifics. They just go Mamdani bad for giving them free rent but Trump good for giving us free (or cheap) drugs.
Both sides do this shit all the time.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 02:15 PM (3qp0C)
I knew I was going to fail at some point in this thread.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 02:15 PM
You still got First!, so there's that.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (jc0TO)
What if these meds are merely getting the endocrine systems of those they benefit back to where they are supposed to be?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 06, 2025 02:16 PM (SRRAx)
You still got First!, so there's that.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:16 PM (jc0TO)
It's what keeps me going.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 06, 2025 02:14 PM (Nh3aA)
Ace lets you eat at his place?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 06, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)
...in return for not going to jail. Many such deals coming, and new therapies.
I like how, instead of massive fines accruiing to the Federal gov't, he gives us the break.
Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2025 02:17 PM (6VEkT)
I'd bet that's what's going on.
Posted by: GMan at November 06, 2025 02:17 PM (GfWuY)
Some of them have odd aftertastes, but I’ve bern drinking diet soda so long that actual sugar tastes gross to me. It leaves a sticky feeling in my mouth that doesn’t go away.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 06, 2025 02:11 PM
I don't like the taste of sugar substitutes they taste like chemicals.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 02:17 PM (vZUXb)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 06, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)
I spent 1/2 my money on hos and booze. And wasted the other half on stupid shit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 06, 2025 02:17 PM (3qp0C)
I don't like the taste of sugar substitutes they taste like chemicals.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 06, 2025 02:17 PM (vZUXb)
I'd say shit, but chemicals will work.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 06, 2025 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:04 PM (jc0TO)
What if these meds are merely getting the endocrine systems of those they benefit back to where they are supposed to be?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at November 06, 2025 02:16 PM
I guess if the condition is irreparable anyway, it is at least something. But I just figure artificial hormones have got to mess up your natural production.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 06, 2025 02:18 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: gp at November 06, 2025 02:18 PM (7imtn)
I eat one bite and it abates.
Weird
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 06, 2025 02:19 PM (GhIJO)
Posted by: Sponge
Glad I could help. My day is complete.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 06, 2025 02:19 PM (SoEv+)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 06, 2025 02:19 PM (hlNLQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 01:19 PM (L/fGl)
Same. While I have lost a ton of weight (to the point that I may get switched to a lower dose of Ozempic), I take it for diabetes. It's been a miracle drug for me. I'm completely off insulin.
I'll put up with the constipation if it means I can trade multiple injections per day for one injection per week.
While I suppose it's possible that decades from now they'll find out it causes elbow cancer or something, I probably won't be around by then. I'd be more concerned about possible long-term effects if I weren't older than dirt.
And yeah, it is weird to not even be tempted to gorge on stuff, even foods I really like. I'm only good for about two pieces of pizza now, compared to four or five before.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 06, 2025 02:20 PM (IG3/x)
How about lowering costs ELSEWHERE? Food, utilities....
This is just bizarre.
Posted by: Joyce Brown at November 06, 2025 02:20 PM (c8bGC)
Awwww- Mom and dad can't help him out?
From Legal Insurrection site:
https://tinyurl.com/2fefzc6b
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2025 02:20 PM (8Cor4)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 06, 2025 02:20 PM (TGPs7)
Try out a Humira at $6000/mo. For conditions that are physically painful and have long term consequences if not treated.
Keytruda $12,000/dose.
Zolgensma $2.1M for a one-time dose.
Posted by: AB at November 06, 2025 02:21 PM (ArLSQ)
Tall players are constantly getting injured. Yao Ming was notorious for being a star in Houston who maybe played 2/3 of the games, so in the end didn't help Houston much. Also Larry Bird lost his last years at the NBA because, careful-enough on the court, he threw out his back laying asphalt on his mom's driveway.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 06, 2025 02:21 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
No inflammation I've noticed. Modest increase in energy but whether that is distinct from the weight loss I don't know.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 02:21 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 06, 2025 02:23 PM (2J/Lj)
Posted by: Mister Ghost
AOC will cut a bitch!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 06, 2025 02:23 PM (L/fGl)
------------
If she subsequently became the victim of a criminal act -- especially by a family member of a rape and/or murder victim -- and I was on the jury, I would vote to acquit and LOL while doing so.
These people are all subhuman psychopaths*.
[* I appear to be setting a personal record today using the word "psychopath" and it's numerous variants -- and that's a high bar, indeed!]
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 06, 2025 02:23 PM (lh/Z+)
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2025 02:25 PM (oiNtH)
Awwww- Mom and dad can't help him out?
From Legal Insurrection site:
https://tinyurl.com/2fefzc6b
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
He's got to speak to the big money men who bank rolled him. His supporters are takers not givers.
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2025 02:28 PM (oiNtH)
check out… https://t0p0nm0ney8.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Junius Legros at November 06, 2025 02:39 PM (fY//i)
I've lost 55lbs. As a Type 1 diabetic.
It took away my desire to over eat. I feel full after eating a normal portioned meal.
I have been working out in the gym for about 2 years now with a personal trainer and it wasn't until Wegovy when I actually started to lose weight and quickly. So quick in fact I'm on a high protein diet now.
I also combined it with a 5x a week treadmill, situps and pushups routine as soon as I get out of bed.
I was expecting to lose all of this weight and look like a Spartan Hoplite afterwards.
Unfortunately it looks like I just have a Dad Bod.
Which is fine because it gives me more motivation to get in better shape.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 06, 2025 02:49 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2025 02:28 PM (oiNtH)
And most aren't old enough to know what Goatze was.
Posted by: Dave's not here at November 06, 2025 02:50 PM (kp5iD)
How about lowering costs ELSEWHERE? Food, utilities....
This is just bizarre.
Posted by: Joyce Brown at November 06, 2025 02:20 PM (c8bGC)
Yes we do. These drugs have been in clinical trials now for 15+ years.
I remember working on a study build for one of them by Lexicon pharma back in 2014.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 06, 2025 02:51 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: MikeN at November 06, 2025 03:02 PM (HVZOH)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 06, 2025 03:05 PM (gm9Sb)
One of the things that makes alcohol abuse so intransigent is that is in fact also a food with metabolizable calories, so the hunger process can get mixed in with the neuronal addiction effects. And, that is exactly what makes me believe the early word that GLP-1s can work for AUD.
Keep in mind the parable of the prodigal son, remember how much damage alcoholics do every day to not only their own lives but also their families and their community, and set aside your puritanical instincts. This will be a huge boon for the whole country, if true.
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