One of Biden's Inner Circle Had Four Million Reasons To Cover Up Biden's Galloping Dementia: A $4 Million Bonus if Biden Were Re-Elected

This is from last week, but I only saw it Friday night.

Mike Donnilon was one of the five people gatekeeping access to Biden, and hiding Biden in the basement, and running the government as Sundown enjoyed his 19 hours a day of "naps."

He had reasons beyond mere partisanship to hide Biden from the world (and hide the world from Biden).

His contract would award him $4 million if he successfully covered up Biden's dementia and defrauded the country into "re"-electing Biden.

A longtime aide to former President Joe Biden admitted that he stood to gain up to $8 million if the Democratic leader won re-election in 2024, newly released video shows.
Michael Donilon served as senior advisor to the president for the entirety of Biden's four-year term. Their relationship goes back decades, however. Donilon first worked for Biden in 1981 when he was a U.S. senator from Delaware.
...
Donilon was then asked whether there were any circumstances under which he would have received a bonus, to which he acknowledged there was.
"What were those circumstances?" House Oversight Committee staff asked.
Mike Donilon walks to Marine One
Donilon said, "That Joe Biden would have been re-elected president of the United States."
That sum would have been $4 million, Donilon acknowledged, in addition to the $4 million he was already paid.
He defended it as "fair agreement" when asked if he believed it was a significant sum of money.
Donilon was then asked, "Do you think that the prospect of a significant payday, say $4 million, could impact someone's judgment in general?"
"Well, I think under the circumstances you're discussing, the incentive was to keep the president in the race. I, at the end, gave him the judgment that he should withdraw," Donilon responded.

"At the end." When the Democrat Party and Democrat-Antifa-Media Party all demanded Biden withdraw, he means.

The House Oversight Committee released video of Donilon's interview and others on the heels of its final report into Biden's autopen use.
The GOP-led report accused Biden's inner circle of actively conspiring to keep signs of diminishing mental acuity from the American public up until when he dropped out of the 2024 presidential race.

House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., heaped doubt on whether Biden actually signed off on all of his executive actions when the autopen was used -- in particular, the thousands of clemency orders he authorized during his term.
Comer said Biden's autopen-authorized actions should be considered "void" and called on the Department of Justice (DOJ) to review the matter.

Watch Mike Donilon, Biden's former senior advisor, squirm as he admits he made $4 MILLION from the campaign and stood to get a $4 MILLION BONUS if Biden won re-election.

He didn't want to answer this question.

He had a MASSIVE financial incentive to COVER UP Biden's decline. pic.twitter.com/rQp7fqrgyH
— Oversight Committee (@GOPoversight) October 29, 2025

Hopefully this is a palate-cleanser after the bitter meal we've been forced to consume.

Posted by: Ace at 01:42 PM

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1 top something

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 05, 2025 01:42 PM (CWTWj)

2 FIRST!

Posted by: Cthulhu at November 05, 2025 01:42 PM (sKqQm)

3 Yeet!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 05, 2025 01:42 PM (W2Pud)

4 Howdy Ace

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2025 01:42 PM (QMAsf)

5 everyone iin the biden admin and campaign had at least one reason to cover up biden's failings

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 05, 2025 01:43 PM (CWTWj)

6 Howdy Ace, Horde, Doof

Doof, check out the Anvil of Crom by Joe Renzetti on Youtube. Heavy metal take on Conan's theme

Posted by: callsign claymore at November 05, 2025 01:45 PM (duopt)

7 Yeah, there is no way he is looking past $4 million. I am so naive in these matters though that I didn't realize such bonuses were a thing in the world of politics. That's a lot of donated campaign funds.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2025 01:46 PM (n5tGW)

8 and so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at November 05, 2025 01:46 PM (pVSzv)

9 I vote for 4 million lashes as a just punishment.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (uMqMi)

10 I'm shocked... SHOCKED, to see money influencing political decisions in this here establishment!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (dGCAG)

11 Willowed:

Food for thought:

Zohran’s Park Slope Populists

https://tinyurl.com/y89jyxz3

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (Y+jbb)

12 FOOD!

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

13 Not a smidge of corruption,
More like a metric sh1t tonne

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:48 PM (9JMiK)

14 The only reason he withdrew was because Trump survived

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 05, 2025 01:48 PM (gPYo7)

15 Yeah, there is no way he is looking past $4 million. I am so naive in these matters though that I didn't realize such bonuses were a thing in the world of politics. That's a lot of donated campaign funds.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2025 01:46 PM (n5tGW)

Here's hoping Lee Greenwood gets significantly less than that to sing that song everywhere Trump goes.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2025 01:48 PM (dGCAG)

16 FOOD!

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

Boobs!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 05, 2025 01:48 PM (i24o9)

17 Ouch. My eyes have just started with the lightshow that means serious headaches are coming.

Have a good day.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2025 01:49 PM (s0JqF)

18 What's the date that Find Out Season begins for NYC?

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2025 01:49 PM (krQz2)

19 I gave upon putting together my new desk chair and am just sitting on the hydraulic cylinder.

Posted by: The Great Poof at November 05, 2025 01:49 PM (oftw2)

20 Well, this is just fucking insane.

So, normalcy returns, eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 01:49 PM (pMRJX)

21 FOOD!

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

Boobs!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 05, 2025 01:48 PM (i24o9)
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How are they different?

Posted by: A Precocious Baby at November 05, 2025 01:49 PM (krQz2)

22
What was Mike Donilon exactly? A government employee ("senior adviser") who additionally was paid by the Biden campaign? Shouldn't that right there be illegal?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (n7rxJ)

23 You know who else covered up millions?

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (Lze6B)

24 When will they conveniently announce that Joey Bidet has passed away?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (9JMiK)

25 Nood... Wait, you've already found out

Posted by: Josephistan at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (y9ksN)

26 There's no way this penis-with-a-face Mike Donilon was worth $8M or $4M or the change from $40 after buying a pocket penis.

I'll bet any amount of money whatever Donilon was paid was just laundered back to members of Biden's crime family. That's the old mafia way: set up some big no-show salaries and contracts, and then funnel most of the money to the family.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (iFTx/)

27 Left can’t win without cheating. Except in NYC.

Posted by: Eromero at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (jgmnb)

28 How are they different?

Posted by: A Precocious Baby at November 05, 2025 01:49 PM (krQz2)

You don't want Papa Murphy's boobs.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (i24o9)

29 A $4 Million Bonus if Biden Were Re-Elected

Since when is working for an honest wage illegal? Is this not America?!

Posted by: Mike Domnilon at November 05, 2025 01:50 PM (zfkPG)

30 Being 29 can be a struggle at times.
Posted by: Diogenes

I found a blister on the tip of my big toe. Doctor told me that your feet get bigger after 29. I was a perfect 10 for decades but I just got size 12. I guess I'm going full sasquatch.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 05, 2025 01:51 PM (L/fGl)

31 I'm gonna hafta try to take a nap soon.

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:51 PM (77rzZ)

32 Donilon did his very best to figure out how to lie about the money, but he is just not shifty enough. This is why he's an adviser instead of a politician. He did mumble out 4myndrs, though. I had to listen twice to understand it.

Posted by: huerfano at November 05, 2025 01:51 PM (98kQX)

33 Yeah, there is no way he is looking past $4 million. I am so naive in these matters though that I didn't realize such bonuses were a thing in the world of politics. That's a lot of donated campaign funds.
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Ponder this: The Presidential Salary is (I believe) $400,000 a year. A 4-year term is thus worth $1.6 million. And yet this fool had $4 million to gain.

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 01:51 PM (TN0g+)

34 Preach on Brother Massie...

Thomas Massie@RepThomasMassie

To avoid a repeat of last night’s shellacking in the 2026 midterms, Republicans should:

quit covering for pedophiles

put America before Israel

put farmers before corporations

quit funding wars abroad

reduce spending to control inflation

quit attacking independent voices

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 05, 2025 01:52 PM (TGPs7)

35 12 FOOD!
Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

Glub?

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 01:52 PM (UnA8+)

36 if that guy had managed to get biden another four years he would have definitely earned it

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 05, 2025 01:52 PM (CWTWj)

37 That means a household earning $150,000 a year—comfortably in the national top 10%—can still be paying well over 30% of its income just on rent

And the people that are upset about this in NYC want to bring in an unlimited number of immigrants.

One of the most amazing changes in the last few years is people voting for policies that directly negatively impact them and that they claim are important.

Left leaning LIVs refuse to consider cause and effect with how they vote. "I voted for the good guy, so if anything negative happens obviously it is just bad luck"

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 01:52 PM (sKqQm)

38 I can see compromising ones morality for a paycheck.

Posted by: Hookers everywhere. You'll need a credit card for THAT shit! at November 05, 2025 01:53 PM (TfUTr)

39 FOOD!
Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

Glub?
Posted by: XTC

It's a thing that Doof and I do. Greet each other with our nics reversed.

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:53 PM (77rzZ)

40 FOOD!
Posted by: Bulg

Fight?

Posted by: Some Rat at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (TfUTr)

41 Ponder this: The Presidential Salary is (I believe) $400,000 a year. A 4-year term is thus worth $1.6 million. And yet this fool had $4 million to gain.

John Bolton sold out his country for $10K...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (sKqQm)

42 There are so many in Bidet's inner circle that have earned their front row seat in the 9th Circle.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (9JMiK)

43 But Trump said pussy.
Checkmate.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (3qp0C)

44 Huh?

Thomas Massie@RepThomasMassie

To avoid a repeat of last night’s shellacking in the 2026 midterms, Republicans should:

quit covering for pedophiles [who is he talking about? epstein? give it a fucking rest]

put America before Israel [??]

put farmers before corporations [??]

quit funding wars abroad [?? Ukraine?]

reduce spending to control inflation [Agree]

quit attacking independent voices [??]

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (iFTx/)

45 41 John Bolton sold out his country for $10K...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (sKqQm)

The Shame is part of the Kink.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 01:54 PM (UnA8+)

46 A $4 Million Bonus if Biden Were Re-Elected

This seems hinky. I bet the bonus was paid, anyways. Democrats don't work for 'promises', because they know they're dealing with Democrats.

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2025 01:55 PM (uMLqI)

47 John Bolton's ego wrote checks his mustache couldn't cover.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:55 PM (9JMiK)

48 Preach on Brother Massie...

Thomas Massie@RepThomasMassie

To avoid a repeat of last night’s shellacking in the 2026 midterms, Republicans should:

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"Brother Massie" and that poster would honestly rank that list in a different order, amirite?

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 01:56 PM (TN0g+)

49
What's the date that Find Out Season begins for NYC?
Posted by: Axeman

==============

There's an expectation that he will do the rent freeze thing on Day One.

Important: He actually repeated EVERY one of his pie-in-the-sky promises last night in his acceptance speech, to wild applause. No "If we can do this" or "We will take the first steps to doing this" or any discrete not-mentioning things he promised in his campaign. His violence-prone supporters have high expectations.

If he acts on rent freezing on Day One, I bet they'll expect everything else on Day Two.

Of course we know who will get the blame: Trump, Corporate Greed, and White Supremacy, particularly the Islamophobic flavor.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 01:56 PM (n7rxJ)

50 put America before Israel

Supporting Israel is in our national interest, f**kwad. So, by supporting Israel, we are putting America first.

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

51 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: The person who always says that at November 05, 2025 01:56 PM (XQo4F)

52 The questions asked of Donilon were simple and easy to answer, provided he wanted to. He didn't, of course. You can see his mind working to come up with a way to avoid acknowledging his obvious corruption.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 01:56 PM (Riz8t)

53 Huh?
----

The same poster was humping Nick Fuentes in the previous thread.

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 01:57 PM (TN0g+)

54 Massie is on my ignore list with Owens and Tucker

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:57 PM (9JMiK)

55 John Bolton's ego wrote checks his mustache couldn't cover.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Yeah, that 'stache was too much even for the pron producers.

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:57 PM (77rzZ)

56 54 Massie is on my ignore list with Owens and Tucker
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:57 PM (9JMiK)

Who ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2025 01:57 PM (VE6XX)

57 Donilon's brother , Tom, was one of Barky's national security advisors. Both are dug into the Dem party like Alabama ticks. They are the Old Guard who the crazies are going to sweep away. Mike could have used that $4m

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 05, 2025 01:57 PM (Sm0sq)

58 Donilon, dude, you can take of the dressing-- oh wait, those are your eyebrows.

Posted by: logprof at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (jo6FO)

59 put America before Israel [??]

—

I know everyone here was cheering when we bombed Iran. But that was a big catalyst for the Massie, MTG, Tucker faction to officially break from Trump.

That’s in part what he’s referring to.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (3qp0C)

60 Ask any groyper how Trump is putting Israel before the US. They have no answer. It's just a bullshit line they think sounds smart.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (viF8m)

61 On a related note, was having a discussion with one of my nephews about what amount of money is "life changing".

He claimed $10k. I disagreed. For most people getting $10K tax free would be great but....not life changing.

I think you go need a bigger number, I argued around $100k Enough for most people to put down a downpayment on a house

But I guess it does depend on where you are financially. If you have 10K in credit card debt paying it off would improve your life significant. If you are Elon you might use a $10k in bills as a door stop...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (sKqQm)

62 Cernovich Cernovich

A friend of mine told me he believes Glenn Youngkin ran Winsome Earle-Sears and blocked a Republican primary for governor to set himself up for 2028. "See! Only I can win a purple state," will be Youngkin's pitch.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (TGPs7)

63 >> put farmers before corporations [??]

Farmers are getting absolutely wrecked. One of Massie’s things is a bill that will allow smaller slaughterhouses that are not USDA inspected, but only state inspected to sell directly to consumers.

The meat cartel is raking in money off of high beef prices while squeezing ranchers. There’s little competition because independent slaughterhouses can’t afford the USDA regime.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (l3YAf)

64 18-1

Look at the price of a house, $100k is not life changing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2025 01:59 PM (9JMiK)

65 I think you go need a bigger number, I argued around $100k Enough for most people to put down a downpayment on a house
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM

or buy a used F250.

Money ain't what it used to be.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 01:59 PM (pVSzv)

66 The problem isn't that he got a payday promise. The problem is where the money was coming from. A good chunk of that had to be from NGO money laundering. Trump's IRS better be deploying a counter-NGO unit immediately and throwing these assholes in jail.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 05, 2025 01:59 PM (mlg/3)

67 61 On a related note, was having a discussion with one of my nephews about what amount of money is "life changing".

He claimed $10k. I disagreed. For most people getting $10K tax free would be great but....not life changing.

I think you go need a bigger number, I argued around $100k Enough for most people to put down a downpayment on a house

But I guess it does depend on where you are financially. If you have 10K in credit card debt paying it off would improve your life significant. If you are Elon you might use a $10k in bills as a door stop...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (sKqQm)

Life Changing?

I'd say it starts at about 10 Million.

That's how much you need where you could put it in a set-it-and-forget it account and live modestly off of the interest or dividends for the rest of your life.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:00 PM (UnA8+)

68 I am going to kill my autocorrect function...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 05, 2025 02:00 PM (TGPs7)

69 Lebensraum in the East!

Bernie Sanders: Dems Have to Take Mamdani’s Message "All Over This Country"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 05, 2025 02:00 PM (L/fGl)

70 Ask any groyper how Trump is putting Israel before the US. They have no answer. It's just a bullshit line they think sounds smart.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (viF8m)

Iran bombing and the aid is their main bugs up the ass.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:00 PM (3qp0C)

71 I have come to the realization that I will never buy another new vehicle. I can, but I won't.

I will not pay more for a car than I paid for my first house.

*shakes fist at clouds*

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:00 PM (pVSzv)

72 OK, nap time. Later, peeps.

Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 02:00 PM (77rzZ)

73 put America before Israel [??]

—

I know everyone here was cheering when we bombed Iran. But that was a big catalyst for the Massie, MTG, Tucker faction to officially break from Trump.

That’s in part what he’s referring to.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (3qp0C)
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Ah ok, but how is that putting Israel before USA? We took out a serious Iranian threat to the USA as well as to Israel. What was Massie's plan? Do nothing until Iran had nukes?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:01 PM (iFTx/)

74 Ponder this: The Presidential Salary is (I believe) $400,000 a year. A 4-year term is thus worth $1.6 million. And yet this fool had $4 million to gain.
Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 01:51 PM (TN0g+)
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I'm guessing that $4 million wasn't coming out of FJB's stash. Someone else was going to provide the funds, if any were forthcoming.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 05, 2025 02:01 PM (IBQGV)

75 i believe much of what mamdammy promised requires votes from the ny state legislature. wouldn't be surprised if the suburbs legislators support it, rich from nyc hastening to move to the suburbs with their high incomes while the bums move for the free bus rides

Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 05, 2025 02:01 PM (CWTWj)

76 That's how much you need where you could put it in a set-it-and-forget it account and live modestly off of the interest or dividends for the rest of your life.

$10M in a high yield savings account would give you $400k/year

I would live very, very well...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)

77 That used to be alot.

Posted by: Just the punchline at November 05, 2025 02:02 PM (XQo4F)

78 I've never bought a new car. I am overdo for one now but as long as the current one keeps working why bother getting a new one?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:02 PM (sKqQm)

79 FOOD!
Posted by: Bulg at November 05, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

Howdy Glub

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2025 02:02 PM (QMAsf)

80 Please deposit $1000 for the next three minutes.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM (pVSzv)

81 Ponder this: The Presidential Salary is (I believe) $400,000 a year. A 4-year term is thus worth $1.6 million. And yet this fool had $4 million to gain.
Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 01:51 PM (TN0g+)
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I'm guessing that $4 million wasn't coming out of FJB's stash. Someone else was going to provide the funds, if any were forthcoming.
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Oh of course, I agree. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of how the game is set up.

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM (TN0g+)

82 great , we got a Gabber on our hands...like we don't have enough problems...

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)

83 Bernie Sanders: Dems Have to Take Mamdani’s Message "All Over This Country"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One!

All right bernie, here's how it's going to work:
Senators salary shall be the per capita income of the State they represent.
Congress persons shall be the per capita income of the district they represent.
Lead by example asshole.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM (TfUTr)

84 Doof, check out the Anvil of Crom by Joe Renzetti on Youtube. Heavy metal take on Conan's theme
Posted by: callsign claymore at November 05, 2025 01:45 PM (duopt)

I'm intrigued

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2025 02:04 PM (QMAsf)

85 Who ?"

A distraction. That's all

Posted by: man at November 05, 2025 02:04 PM (51o2X)

86 All right bernie, here's how it's going to work:
Senators salary shall be the per capita income of the State they represent.
Congress persons shall be the per capita income of the district they represent.
Lead by example asshole.
Posted by: Some Rat at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM

Brilliant.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:04 PM (pVSzv)

87 We're saved!

Mike Pence Declares Himself Gatekeeper of Conservatism

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 05, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl)

88 >>FOOD!

OMG, WHERE!?

Posted by: JB Pritzker at November 05, 2025 02:04 PM (Y1sOo)

89 83 All right bernie, here's how it's going to work:
Senators salary shall be the per capita income of the State they represent.
Congress persons shall be the per capita income of the district they represent.
Lead by example asshole.
Posted by: Some Rat at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM (TfUTr)

Nope.

Both's salary should be the starting wage for a Clerk I in the state they represent.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (UnA8+)

90 When Pence moves on the youngins are going to ask us why they had a cartoon version of him on Johnny Quest

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (sKqQm)

91 Ah ok, but how is that putting Israel before USA? We took out a serious Iranian threat to the USA as well as to Israel. What was Massie's plan? Do nothing until Iran had nukes?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:01 PM (iFTx/)

Their view is Iran is harmless and Trump did it because Netanyahu wanted it done. Israel wants chaos in the Middle East and Trump is allowing it to happen. Against our own interests.

Basically their whole thing is Israel is playing Trump in order to do their dirty work for them. Iran, Houthis, etc.

Plus the $3B aid annually. They have a big bug up their ass over it. Oddly never a peep about the $5B Egypt gets.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (3qp0C)

92 Iran bombing and the aid is their main bugs up the ass.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

75% of the 'aid' are loans to buy US weapons/platforms. It's a subsidy for Boeing Lockheed BAE etc. Which even if you're a hardcore libertarian, you'd have to acknowledge it's in the US' best interest to have a defense industry that doesn't file bankruptcy every year.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (mlg/3)

93 put farmers before corporations

Someone tell Massie that most family farms are corporations to avoid the government's ruinous inheritance taxes.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (a+4eV)

94 One good thing about last night is that the Somali Socialist, the official Democrat nominee for mayor of Minneapolis, lost.

It was a surprise too. I wonder if Minnesota residents have finally started to say "enough!".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (lU5os)

95 Instrumental rock guitar is STILL the wave of the future!

Posted by: Denny Crane - I Love Buckethead at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (i49OE)

96 Mike Pence is the Race Bannon of Liz Cheneys.

Who is buying his book? Who is his audience?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (l3YAf)

97 So is he giving back the 4 million he was paid ?
Because I wouldn't pay someone 4million to help my campaign and then have him tell me that I needed to withdraw.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (EYmYM)

98 Presidential salary should be increased significantly… it’s been $400K a year forever. $2M a year or more…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (HAafC)

99 great , we got a Gabber on our hands...like we don't have enough problems...
Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:03 PM (g47mK)

Gabber?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (/HDaX)

100 I'm fine with zero'ing out all foreign aide - Israel included.

We are almost $40T in debt - all spending cuts are good spending cuts.

But...why Israel is the focus is an interesting question

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (sKqQm)

101 >>Iran bombing and the aid is their main bugs up the ass.

Then they're stupid. Iran has been calling for the destruction of the US for decades. We are the Great Satan, Israel is only Satan Jr.

The bombing mission Trump ordered has been in the arsenal for decades. It wasn't created for Israel. It was created to stop the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism that has been hitting the US and our interests for years. They killed and maimed thousands of US military in Iraq, shelter terrorists, fund terrorist groups around the world including in Venezuela.

Just because our interests align with Israel on certain issues does not mean we are being led around be evil Jews. It's just ignorant antisemitism looking for an excuse.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:07 PM (viF8m)

102 It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at November 05, 2025 02:07 PM (XQo4F)

103 75% of the 'aid' are loans to buy US weapons/platforms. It's a subsidy for Boeing Lockheed BAE etc. Which even if you're a hardcore libertarian, you'd have to acknowledge it's in the US' best interest to have a defense industry that doesn't file bankruptcy every year.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (mlg/3)

I’m Not the one you have to convince.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:07 PM (3qp0C)

104 ...why Israel is the focus is an interesting question"

To distract...

Posted by: man at November 05, 2025 02:07 PM (51o2X)

105 quit covering for pedophiles [who is he talking about? epstein? give it a fucking rest]

Posted by: Elric The Blade

Nick Fuentes, probably

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 05, 2025 02:07 PM (a+4eV)

106 Can someone explain to me how "the right" is failing the "young men"? Do "the young men" (most of whom are in 20-40 range...) not have fking agency ? Do they not know how to get their shit together ? What do they expect , a handout ?

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (g47mK)

107 91 Plus the $3B aid annually. They have a big bug up their ass over it. Oddly never a peep about the $5B Egypt gets.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (3qp0C)

If it were possible, I'd like to be out of the Sandbox entirely.

But as long as it isn't, _MUCH_ better to back Israel than Iran.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (UnA8+)

108 Gabber?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (/HDaX)

Gab.ai, a Fuentes fanboi group grope, apparently.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (i24o9)

109 Farmers are getting absolutely wrecked. One of Massie’s things is a bill that will allow smaller slaughterhouses that are not USDA inspected, but only state inspected to sell directly to consumers.

The meat cartel is raking in money off of high beef prices while squeezing ranchers. There’s little competition because independent slaughterhouses can’t afford the USDA regime.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 01:58 PM (l3YAf)

Also milk. You can't buy direct from farmers, it's illegal.

So lots of farmers who can't compete in a rigged market just sell to Blackrock and whatever shell corporations that are funded by Chi Nah.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (dGCAG)

110 I'd be fine with significant salary increases for elected officials

BUT

Paired with restrictions on how much they can make afterwards.

So, fine, we quadruple your House Salary. But you are then taxed at a 99% rate for any earnings higher then the highest year you've had in the last 10 years.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (sKqQm)

111 Ah ok, but how is that putting Israel before USA? We took out a serious Iranian threat to the USA as well as to Israel. What was Massie's plan? Do nothing until Iran had nukes?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:01 PM (iFTx/)

Their view is Iran is harmless and Trump did it because Netanyahu wanted it done. Israel wants chaos in the Middle East and Trump is allowing it to happen. Against our own interests.

Basically their whole thing is Israel is playing Trump in order to do their dirty work for them. Iran, Houthis, etc.

Plus the $3B aid annually. They have a big bug up their ass over it. Oddly never a peep about the $5B Egypt gets.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:05 PM (3qp0C)
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Ok, so they're idiots. Got it. The beef about $3B in aid I kinda sorta get, but we get more bang for the buck from that than other aid. I think most of the $3B is to buy USA-made weapons anyway. It's more subsidy for MIC.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)

112 Presidential salary should be increased significantly… it’s been $400K a year forever. $2M a year or more…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

I think you know what I think it should be.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (TfUTr)

113 The meat cartel is raking in money off of high beef prices while squeezing ranchers.

Ah, Big Meat is to blame. Has anyone alerted Paolo?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (Riz8t)

114 Who was paying the $4M+$4M? Not the broke-ass grifting Biden family for sure.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (1Nv0l)

115 Iran bombing and the aid is their main bugs up the ass.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

I had no problem with any of that, and neither does MAGA on-balance.
This is where I part ways from Cernovich (well, apart from the tranny banging, which I hope not to experience). He says the foreign-policy stuff was a distraction. But it was not a distraction. Bondi, Dhillon, and Patel have been hitting visa abuses hard and explaining why these abuses are dangerous.
Dhillon's one misstep is in relaying the Sikh community's concerns as stated, instead of saying "although we hear your concerns, the Sikhs should be more concerned with bad actors and illegals in their own ranks".

Posted by: gKWVE at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (1ET9J)

116 The 8 million would come out of Biden's campaign war chest.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:09 PM (EYmYM)

117 I've never bought a new car. I am overdo for one now but as long as the current one keeps working why bother getting a new one?

Wouldn't you rather double your insurance, registration, maintenance, and repair bills in order to get the latest cup-holder?

Posted by: t-bird at November 05, 2025 02:09 PM (uMLqI)

118 Can someone explain to me how "the right" is failing the "young men"?

Well, the GOPe has been important millions of foreigners to compete them out of jobs...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:09 PM (sKqQm)

119 I’ve been trying out this straightforward online project, and it’s been averaging around $95 a day for me — about $670 a week. It only takes a couple of hours on my laptop, nothing complicated.

I put the steps I use... https://m0neyappb0t5.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Ceasar DuBuque at November 05, 2025 02:09 PM (Q5KN2)

120 Just because our interests align with Israel on certain issues does not mean we are being led around be evil Jews. It's just ignorant antisemitism looking for an excuse.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:07 PM

He's Just Asking Questions™.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:09 PM (pVSzv)

121 "What do they expect , a handout ?"

Depends. Whaddya got?

Posted by: Young men everywhere at November 05, 2025 02:09 PM (XQo4F)

122 I pardoned cancer!

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 05, 2025 02:10 PM (+ZjBm)

123 And I thought the Trump economy was supposed to be strong!

Antifa-Friendly Portland Bookstore Lays Off More Employees

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Oh yeah? Well, You're Another One! at November 05, 2025 02:10 PM (L/fGl)

124 I’ve been trying out this straightforward online project, and it’s been averaging around $95 a day for me — about $670 a week. It only takes a couple of hours on my laptop, nothing complicated.

You're selling lace wigs, aren't you.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:11 PM (Riz8t)

125 I remember pointing out to some LIVs I knew that Biden promised to cure cancer if he and Barky were elected...then AGAIN when he was running for president.

Not surprisingly they hadn't seen the video of him saying it

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:11 PM (sKqQm)

126 Gabber?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (/HDaX)

Gab.ai, a Fuentes fanboi group grope, apparently.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (i24o9)

Yes, and as someone who is familiar with it, trust me when I tell you, it is a piece of shit homespun dump, run by Turkey and a US based grifter.

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:12 PM (g47mK)

127 Bernie Sanders: Dems Have to Take Mamdani’s Message "All Over This Country"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Do it.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 05, 2025 02:12 PM (1Nv0l)

128 Ok, so they're idiots. Got it. The beef about $3B in aid I kinda sorta get, but we get more bang for the buck from that than other aid. I think most of the $3B is to buy USA-made weapons anyway. It's more subsidy for MIC.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (iFTx/)

Yeah.

Their argument also goes into “we give them all this money while people are homeless in America”. Kinda the Trump is building a ballroom while poor black children starve with no snap left wing argument.

None of their shit makes sense with even 5 seconds of analysis. But they’re good sound bites and slogans that resonate. Like hope and change or yes we can.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:12 PM (3qp0C)

129 Senators salary shall be the per capita income of the State they represent.
Congress persons shall be the per capita income of the district they represent.
Lead by example asshole.
Posted by: Some Rat

Also the state what sent them is responsible for all expenses they incur in the commission of the duties as Congress critter.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 05, 2025 02:12 PM (a+4eV)

130 What was the other one with Lace Wigs? Machines for sale or something like that?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:12 PM (sKqQm)

131 127 Bernie Sanders: Dems Have to Take Mamdani’s Message "All Over This Country"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

I suggest you start with Florida Bernie...
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Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2025 02:13 PM (VE6XX)

132 Yeah! I am back in the black after yesterday's market blip.

One day soon there will be a correction though.

Posted by: toby928(c) blurts at November 05, 2025 02:13 PM (pVSzv)

133 But...why Israel is the focus is an interesting question
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:06 PM (sKqQm)

Not really. It goes back to Massie accusing AIPAC of having bought a significant majority of Congress, and not being required to register as a foreign lobbying agent.

People can argue that Israel's interests are America's interest if they want.

The point being though, there are growing segments of the poopulation that don't agree that it is. And not just on the left.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 05, 2025 02:13 PM (dGCAG)

134 There is good news on the beef front. A new old solution. Fodder beets. You can grow something crazy like 30 to 40 tons per acre. One acre can feed 30 cattle for 3 months per acre. Used in New Zealand and Europe. Starting in the US.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:14 PM (5Go8e)

135 Legislation passed less than 10 years ago provided aid to Israel of total 30 billion dollars paid yearly 'installments' over 10 years.

We have given Ukraine almost 150 billion in just over 4 years.

Fuck off you ignorant Jew haters

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:14 PM (EYmYM)

136 all of the elections that have everybody wondering what went wrong were in one of the 21 states that will not participate in opening their voter roles

why is anyone surprised?

Posted by: DanMan at November 05, 2025 02:14 PM (8uzBS)

137 Remember when we began to correct the left whenever they referred to the criminal Pakis in the UK as "grooming gangs" and insisted on the term "rape gangs" instead? We need to be just as vigilant in not letting Tucker and Candace and Nick Fuentes be referred to as "pushing the party further to the right". The embrace of Hitler and anti-semitism doesn't make those monsters "further right"--it makes them *evil*.

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 02:14 PM (TN0g+)

138 Yeah! I am back in the black after yesterday's market blip.

I was looking at the NANC(y) ETF and it looks like an ACA ramp minus one blip in April of this year.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:14 PM (sKqQm)

139 Biden was this close (squeezing fingers together) to curing cancer. And we let him go! Damn.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 05, 2025 02:15 PM (jFCkp)

140 Some good news for today.

The leftwing barf-bag of underage sex and gay perversion known as Teen Vogue is dead. The actual print magazine was axed years ago, but now the publisher is shitcanning the online thing too.

Even better: The usual suspects are mad butthurt that Teen Vogue is laying off minority and transgender "staffers." Learn to suck, homos!

So very very sad!

https://tinyurl.com/34kye3za

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:15 PM (iFTx/)

141 Speaking of markets. The firearms market is getting cheap. I may be able to afford a B&T if this keeps up.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 05, 2025 02:15 PM (+ZjBm)

142 Massie is a backbiting RINO who has not earned any deference from the base. He hits AIPAC / Israel because it splits the base which might otherwise see through him and primary his ass.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 05, 2025 02:15 PM (1ET9J)

143 Half a percent is a blip?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (5Go8e)

144 the difference between what Ukraine got and what Israel got is that Israel's aid is a loan that they repay, Ukraine's is gone forever, unless we get those minerals sitting under Russian forces at the moment

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (g47mK)

145 Can someone explain to me how "the right" is failing the "young men"? Do "the young men" (most of whom are in 20-40 range...) not have fking agency ? Do they not know how to get their shit together ? What do they expect , a handout ?
Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:08 PM (g47mK)

What morons! In America handouts are exclusively for women, minorities, and guys named Zohran who just got here 15 minutes ago!

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Ignore the fact that we’ve imported tens of millions of left-wing foreigners over the last six decades. Ignore the fact that non-whites and women get preference and priority for every scholarship or white collar job!

Get out there and work a trade! Take a back-breaking blue collar job while millions of foreigners fill up our colleges.

Don’t dream of a white collar job, that’s reserved for Vivek and his 16 cousins.

And make sure you work 60 hours a week in your shitty, dead-end blue collar job so you can compete with Juan!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (l3YAf)

146 Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (g47mK)

I think 120 billion more is another big difference.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:17 PM (EYmYM)

147 Massie is kinda an irrelevant blowhard, that was never of use except to himself, will be forgotten in 2026.

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:17 PM (g47mK)

148 Half a percent is a blip?

It went from $40 to $32 but its now up to $46 so why not call it a blip?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:17 PM (sKqQm)

149 36 if that guy had managed to get biden another four years he would have definitely earned it
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 05, 2025 01:52 PM (CWTWj)

Heh. This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:17 PM (zZu0s)

150 Massie, Tucker and MTG also get riled up about Aipac . As if Israel is the only country that lobbies the government.

I agree, we should not have foreign governments lobbying politics. But their only issue is aipac not the 1000 other groups lobbying on behalf of every other country on the planet. They pretend Israel is the only one that does it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:17 PM (3qp0C)

151 >> The leftwing barf-bag of underage sex and gay perversion known as Teen Vogue is dead. The actual print magazine was axed years ago, but now the publisher is shitcanning the online thing too.

I guess we’re not gonna get an “Anal Sex 201” column now..

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)

152 Half a percent is a blip?
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM

I trade the NAS mostly.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (pVSzv)

153 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (l3YAf)

Impolite perhaps, but wholly without Pinocchios.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (1ET9J)

154 One stock and not the averages. Seems risky.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (5Go8e)

155 If a 1% down day freaks you out you probably should not be investing in stocks.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (3qp0C)

156 What's NAS in this context?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (sKqQm)

157 >>Legislation passed less than 10 years ago provided aid to Israel of total 30 billion dollars paid yearly 'installments' over 10 years.

What rarely gets reported by those who hate Israel is what we get for that aid. Aside from valuable intel on the region and various terror groups the US gets access to technology like the Iron Dome, cyber security, medical discoveries and more.

And the vast majority of the aid gets sent right back to the US for military hardware.

But that doesn't sound as good as we are just giving money to Israel because they own our politicians.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:19 PM (viF8m)

158 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (l3YAf)

it would help if "young men" did not worry about Vivek, but would focus on their own shit; what you posted is all different shades of envy

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)

159 The leftwing barf-bag of underage sex and gay perversion known as Teen Vogue is dead. The actual print magazine was axed years ago, but now the publisher is shitcanning the online thing too.

I guess we’re not gonna get an “Anal Sex 201” column now..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM (l3YAf)
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Not from Teen Vogue at least. But I'm sure there are many such columns out there and on podcasts ... and in middle-school libraries.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (iFTx/)

160 Yo

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (eZwyX)

161 They pretend Israel is the only one that does it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:17 PM (3qp0C)

This. Plus, I would lay a $1000 that Israeli lobbying is about 100 times more benign (and in our interests as well) than Qatari or Chinese.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (zZu0s)

162 Hey thathalfrican. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (22p5n)

163 145 Don’t dream of a white collar job, that’s reserved for Vivek and his 16 cousins.

And make sure you work 60 hours a week in your shitty, dead-end blue collar job so you can compete with Juan!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (l3YAf)

Some striped thigh-highs and a purple wig might still get you a Junior Developer position.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (UnA8+)

164 What's NAS in this context?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:18 PM

NASDAQ Composite (^IXIC)

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:21 PM (pVSzv)

165 Legislation passed less than 10 years ago provided aid to Israel of total 30 billion dollars paid yearly 'installments' over 10 years.

What rarely gets reported by those who hate Israel is what we get for that aid. Aside from valuable intel on the region and various terror groups the US gets access to technology like the Iron Dome, cyber security, medical discoveries and more.

And the vast majority of the aid gets sent right back to the US for military hardware.

But that doesn't sound as good as we are just giving money to Israel because they own our politicians.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:19 PM (viF8m)
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I want the Weather Control technology, bro

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:21 PM (iFTx/)

166 If a 1% down day freaks you out you probably should not be investing in stocks.

If you look at a CD or HYSA they have consistent month by month growth while stocks bounce up and down.

But...in most cases those stocks are growing a LOT more on their good days then those safe investments are...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:21 PM (sKqQm)

167 Carlos Manzo Rodríguez, mayor of Uruapan, Michoacán, was shot dead during a public event — just as he had warned. “I don't want to be another murdered mayor,” he said days before the attack.

Manzo had requested federal protection after receiving threats due to his outspoken stance against organized crime, but his pleas were ignored. His death highlights the growing insecurity and the dangers faced by public officials in Mexico.

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 02:21 PM (TN0g+)

168 what you posted is all different shades of envy
Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)

Dude, this is why we lose.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (1ET9J)

169 Some striped thigh-highs and a purple wig might still get you a Junior Developer position.

It does always amaze me that trannies feel that they have to dress like a woman going to a techno club...for work.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (sKqQm)

170 If the US tried to replicate the intel network that Israel is providing, it would cost us trillions. Fact. they are all focused on AIPAC11!!, but somehow Massie types never bothered about CAIR.

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (g47mK)

171 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (l3YAf)

People better understand this and understand it good

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (eZwyX)

172 it would help if "young men" did not worry about Vivek, but would focus on their own shit; what you posted is all different shades of envy
Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)

Your brand of warmed-over Reaganite neoconservatism is dead. The final nail was put into the coffin last night.

You either take the issues seriously or the gay communists win. It’s that simple.

And I’m not envious. I retired in my early thirties from a lucrative tech career because I got tired of babysitting H1bs, which is what every $600k /year tech job turned into.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (l3YAf)

173 Manzo had requested federal protection after receiving threats due to his outspoken stance against organized crime, but his pleas were ignored. His death highlights the growing insecurity and the dangers faced by public officials in Mexico.
Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 02:21 PM (TN0g+)

Yeah, I saw that. Brave man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (zZu0s)

174 If a 1% down day freaks you out you probably should not be investing in stocks.

I live for 1% up and down days. Volatility is my friend.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (pVSzv)

175 Looting the Republic before the downfall

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (+qU29)

176
Can someone explain to me how "the right" is failing the "young men"? Do "the young men" (most of whom are in 20-40 range...) not have fking agency ? Do they not know how to get their shit together ? What do they expect , a handout ?
Posted by: runner

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See #11 in this thread. A lot of what is now called "downwardly mobile professionals" voted for Mamdani. Of course it's still silly to vote for rent freezes if you think your rent is too high, but the educated, hard-working teachers, junior lawyers, and software engineers who are frustrated by their inability to buy a house and start a family are getting emotional about their plight, not more rational.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (n7rxJ)

177 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 05, 2025 02:20 PM (22p5n)

Good to see you. I hope alls well in your world.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (eZwyX)

178 I live for 1% up and down days. Volatility is my friend.

Day trader? Or do you use some of the more interesting stock investment options?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (sKqQm)

179 Counter arguments to Tucker, Fuentes etc explaining why their Israel controls Trunp shit is dumb is what’s needed instead of “he’s just a gay podcaster who cares what he says let’s ignore him”.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:24 PM (3qp0C)

180 Day trader?

I try to be. I had to hold overnight for the last two days but I do try to get in and out.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:24 PM (pVSzv)

181 Wish I had $4M .

Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2025 02:24 PM (Oy/m2)

182 Arizona father who let his 2yr old daughter cook in a hot car while he went inside and watched pron has been found dead. He had plead guilty to second degree murder and was to be sentenced today. Cause not known, but probably appropriate

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 05, 2025 02:24 PM (Sm0sq)

183 Good to see you too, thathalfrican.

Things are good, thank God.

How are you doing?

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM (22p5n)

184 Of course, we were going to pay him in hookers. Fat hookers.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM (Vv53K)

185 I try to be. I had to hold overnight for the last two days but I do try to get in and out.

A little too stressful for me...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM (sKqQm)

186 His death highlights the growing insecurity and the dangers faced by public officials in Mexico.
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Heh, I watched about half of Sicario Soldado last night. Enjoyed it. Is my guess that Josh Brolin got the part based on his success with No Country For Old Men movie? BTW, I really like Benicia del Torre on film. He steals every shot.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM (jFCkp)

187 Democrats love using the term 'consensus' it means using pressure from superior pay tenure position as authority to get consensus....no vote, no record of position.

Posted by: torabora at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM (KtOUo)

188 It’s always funny how so many will wail about the money that goes to Isreal, much of which comes back in military purchases and trade, and no one even mentions that we give Egypt about $1.5 Billion a year.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2025 02:26 PM (eQmnE)

189 Dude, this is why we lose.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 05, 2025 02:22 PM (1ET9J)

sorry, but all I hear is whining, all I see is envy. But what is the proposal? what is the actual actionable plan ?

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)

190 I try to be. I had to hold overnight for the last two days but I do try to get in and out.

A little too stressful for me...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM

I think I trade too much though. But it's a hobby so not buying and selling feels boring. Like going to a casino for the prime rib.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:26 PM (pVSzv)

191 Arizona father who let his 2yr old daughter cook in a hot car while he went inside and watched pron has been found dead.

If you cannot live your life as a positive example, at least let your life be a warning, I guess.

Posted by: the hentai catgirls aren't real at November 05, 2025 02:27 PM (1ET9J)

192 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (n7rxJ)

I don’t know if I’d say they’re getting more emotional, but cynical? Sure. What are millennials and zoomers supposed to do? Eat the shit sandwiches served up to us while we get lectured about working hard etc etc?

Those catch phrases just don’t jive with the facts on the ground. People buying their first houses are on average around 40 years old. Highest age group ever.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:27 PM (eZwyX)

193 Arizona father who let his 2yr old daughter cook in a hot car while he went inside and watched pron has been found dead. He had plead guilty to second degree murder and was to be sentenced today. Cause not known, but probably appropriate
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 05, 2025 02:24 PM (Sm0sq)

And Virginia just elected a dude who would release this fucker- as long as his kids were Republicans.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:27 PM (zZu0s)

194 A too high a number of youngAmerican men are failing the country. They all want to be instant white collar millionaires without any work and get depressed when they can't fulfill that fantasy.

The hard truth. Though I do find some silver lining in TPUSA.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:28 PM (EYmYM)

195 sorry, but all I hear is whining, all I see is envy. But what is the proposal? what is the actual actionable plan ?

My own argument is the right should approach economic policy as war.

The goal should be to collect as much tax from blue voters as possible and spent it on red/leaning red voters.

This is by no means "economic conservativism" but is we win the war at some point we can go back to it

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:28 PM (sKqQm)

196 Like going to a casino for the prime rib.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:26 PM (pVSzv)

Used to be the best buffets around were in casinos.

Now im hungry.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:28 PM (zZu0s)

197 Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 05, 2025 02:25 PM (22p5n)

All in all? I’m good and blessed. Just need a new a job because the one I’m at now is doing everything possible to drive away certain segments of the work force.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (eZwyX)

198 Counter arguments to Tucker, Fuentes etc explaining why their Israel controls Trunp shit is dumb is what’s needed instead of “he’s just a gay podcaster who cares what he says let’s ignore him”.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:24 PM (3qp0C)

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* Mark "Ol' Yeller" Levin has courageously entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (Tm9id)

199 Can someone explain to me how "the right" is failing the "young men"? Do "the young men" (most of whom are in 20-40 range...) not have fking agency ? Do they not know how to get their shit together ? What do they expect , a handout ?
Posted by: runner

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See #11 in this thread. A lot of what is now called "downwardly mobile professionals" voted for Mamdani. Of course it's still silly to vote for rent freezes if you think your rent is too high, but the educated, hard-working teachers, junior lawyers, and software engineers who are frustrated by their inability to buy a house and start a family are getting emotional about their plight, not more rational.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (n7rxJ)
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You can have agency and still think (correctly) that you're getting fucked. And straight white men (and to a lesser extent, straight black American men) are. The cards are being dealt to them from under the deck.

That being said, a good portion of their frustration is their own doing. Almost all the 20- and 30-somethings I know aren't planning for their future like older generations did. They're not saving. They're spending, on frivolities.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

200 Mamboisalmi in NYC says he has a “mandate”.

This is gonna be lit.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (fB/cf)

201 I saw a really old movie an the marquis the other day. Did something ancient get rereleased?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (5Go8e)

202 Having ace active in the comments like doubles the comment engagement.

Posted by: Denny Crane - I State the Obvious at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (i49OE)

203 My own argument is the right should approach economic policy as war.

The goal should be to collect as much tax from blue voters as possible and spent it on red/leaning red voters.

This is by no means "economic conservativism" but is we win the war at some point we can go back to it
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:28 PM (sKqQm)

spend it how ?

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (g47mK)

204 I think I trade too much though. But it's a hobby so not buying and selling feels boring. Like going to a casino for the prime rib.

If gambling is your thing the stock market is one casino rigged in your favor...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM (sKqQm)

205 I wonder how big the bonus would have been to get Harris elected. Delusional sundowners are one thing. The real challenge is getting a socially inept retard elected. THAT would have been worth about $10 Million on my scale.

Posted by: Orson at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM (dIske)

206 Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:28 PM (EYmYM)

No. This is not what those groups think but ok.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM (eZwyX)

207 White young men have been told by society they are the devil for 20 years. The GOP has played along with that as well here and there. While not as overt as the Dems, they were all in on limitless immigration for a long time including H1Bs.

So is it any surprise these white young men seek out people like Fuentes who say no you’re not the devil, you’re victims of … drum roll please… The Jews!! Because these kids look around and go yeah fuck that shit I am a victim. But they’re a victim of republicans and democrats selling out their country not because of $3B in aid to Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM (3qp0C)

208 If gambling is your thing the stock market is one casino rigged in your favor...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM

Just so.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (pVSzv)

209 >Food for thought:

Zohran’s Park Slope Populists

I denounce myself as a cold-hearted asshole but have they considered moving to Fort Wayne or Des Moines where the cost of living is substantially lower?

Posted by: mr tmz at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (rJ48h)

210 sorry, but all I hear is whining, all I see is envy. But what is the proposal? what is the actual actionable plan ?
Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)

- end immigration. All of it.
- deport every non-citizen
- end DEI. End all discrimination against white men. Outlaw racial and gender preferences in hiring.
- cut the welfare state to the bone.
- tax cuts for people born in America from American parents who are starting families or buying homes.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (l3YAf)

211 ee #11 in this thread. A lot of what is now called "downwardly mobile professionals" voted for Mamdani. Of course it's still silly to vote for rent freezes if you think your rent is too high, but the educated, hard-working teachers, junior lawyers, and software engineers who are frustrated by their inability to buy a house and start a family are getting emotional about their plight, not more rational.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (n7rxJ)

irrational , emotional ...great

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (g47mK)

212 spend it how ?

Whatever seems to be the most prudent. Infrastructure would be one example and to continue down that path I'd like to see coal plants built on every military base in the country.

This would be work that would tend to be in the wheelhouse of right leaning people and would piss the left off trying to stop it with lawsuits...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (sKqQm)

213 I used to argue that even if you didn't like Israel they made a good tripwire for the West. Now the West has opened the door for the jihadis and the tripwire argument is gone. Still support Israel to the max

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (Sm0sq)

214 spend it how ?
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Go Kart Tracks.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (jFCkp)

215 Has Ace finished putting the chair together? Are there any parts left over?

Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (Oy/m2)

216 My own argument is the right should approach economic policy as war.
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How about the war including the dismantling of at least 80 percent of the Federal government? When DOGE was (rightfully) getting a ton of press, Trump opined that were there work to continue to its logical conclusion we might be able to do away with the Federal income tax all together (the remaining fed programs would run off tariff income).

What would it look like if men and women of all ages were able to keep an additional 20-30 percent of their income, and the companies that employed them got to keep more of their money as well? Would more be willing to start (and keep) families? What would "consumer optimism" ratings look like?

Posted by: Crusader at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (TN0g+)

217 end immigration. All of it.
- deport every non-citizen
- end DEI. End all discrimination against white men. Outlaw racial and gender preferences in hiring.
- cut the welfare state to the bone.
- tax cuts for people born in America from American parents who are starting families or buying homes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (l3YAf)

That is exactly what Trump is doing. It will take more than 9 months.

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (g47mK)

218 In general, the economy needs to move a lot more in the right direction. I understand what Trump has done with the tariffs and new business. But none of that is hitting a lot of the voting public that matters.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (fB/cf)

219 Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

There is some truth to your last point but I still think it misses the mark. Even if you do save, it’s incredibly difficult to attain anything of real value.

This is what millennials and zoomers see.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (eZwyX)

220 Can you trade loaded like at the craps table?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (5Go8e)

221
What are millennials and zoomers supposed to do? Eat the shit sandwiches served up to us while we get lectured about working hard etc etc?

Those catch phrases just don’t jive with the facts on the ground. People buying their first houses are on average around 40 years old. Highest age group ever.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

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100%, boomers need to quit countering younger generations' laments with "Why when IiiiIIIiiiII was 20 years old, I had already built a business, bought a house, had a kid, and bought my first new car. SUCK IT UP."

That has to stop.

But I don't see how voting commie is the better alternative. That's neither rational nor cynical. Not voting at all would be cynical. Voting commie is hysterical.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (n7rxJ)

222 Whatever seems to be the most prudent. Infrastructure would be one example and to continue down that path I'd like to see coal plants built on every military base in the country.

This would be work that would tend to be in the wheelhouse of right leaning people and would piss the left off trying to stop it with lawsuits...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (sKqQm)

Isn't it what Trump is doing ? Coal , nukkelar, oil is free!

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:33 PM (g47mK)

223 Can you trade loaded like at the craps table?

Not only can you be drunk off your ass trading online, pants are completely optional

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:33 PM (sKqQm)

224 White young men have been told by society they are the devil for 20 years. The GOP has played along with that as well here and there. While not as overt as the Dems, they were all in on limitless immigration for a long time including H1Bs.

So is it any surprise these white young men seek out people like Fuentes who say no you’re not the devil, you’re victims of … drum roll please… The Jews!! Because these kids look around and go yeah fuck that shit I am a victim. But they’re a victim of republicans and democrats selling out their country not because of $3B in aid to Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM (3qp0C)

Exactly. And young men are tired of being lectured by people who grew up in an 80+% white country when every city is starting to resemble the third world.

If you’re a man under 40-45, you’ve been legally discriminated against your whole life.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:33 PM (l3YAf)

225 But I don't see how voting commie is the better alternative. That's neither rational nor cynical. Not voting at all would be cynical. Voting commie is hysterical.

they think they're flipping the board

which, when the game is rigged ...

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 05, 2025 02:33 PM (emBoF)

226 Can you trade loaded like at the craps table?

Not only can you be drunk off your ass trading online, pants are completely optional
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:33 PM

*shifty eyes*

*checks tape over webam*

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:34 PM (pVSzv)

227 I think it was back to the future.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:34 PM (5Go8e)

228 I denounce myself as a cold-hearted asshole but have they considered moving to Fort Wayne or Des Moines where the cost of living is substantially lower?
Posted by: mr tmz at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (rJ48h)

Are you high? Thai restaurants close at 9pm in those hick flyover towns. I only eat That food at 3am bitch.
- NYC residents

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:35 PM (3qp0C)

229 You can’t choose socialism because you’re pissed off at your situation, and expect the capitalism which underpins our entire economy to survive.

I am a little unclear what some of these people want to change. But voting to destroy the system and drive away people paying the bills ain’t it.

Posted by: Vengeance at November 05, 2025 02:35 PM (fB/cf)

230 >>White young men have been told by society they are the devil for 20 years. The GOP has played along with that as well here and there. While not as overt as the Dems, they were all in on limitless immigration for a long time including H1Bs.

So explain how this has anything to do with Fuentes attacking Trump non-stop before and after the election when objectively Trump has been the best president on illegals and border security of any president in the modern era.

You can't reason someone out of a position they never reasoned into. Fuentes is a grifter who will say anything to impressionable young people even bald faced lies to get clicks and money. He's not a principled, rational actor. He's a new era shock jock who thinks it's edgy and cool to say Stalin is his hero, Hitler was a great man and the holocaust never happened. He's garbage.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (viF8m)

231 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (n7rxJ)
We’re gonna get right wing economic populism or leftwing economic populism.

I would never vote for a communist ever. But we’re getting one or the other, choose wisely.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (eZwyX)

232 But I don't see how voting commie is the better alternative. That's neither rational nor cynical. Not voting at all would be cynical. Voting commie is hysterical.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (n7rxJ)

If you look at the exit polls, it looks like a lot of young men (especially white young men) just sat this one out. They’re not flocking to Zohran because they despise his gay third world resentment. But they’re also not flocking to vote for a Jamaican woman running on a mushy GOP, business-as-usual platform.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (l3YAf)

233 If you’re a man under 40-45, you’ve been legally discriminated against your whole life.

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an exaggeration, maybe started under obama, definitely became a cult under Biden

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (g47mK)

234
end immigration. All of it.
- deport every non-citizen
- end DEI. End all discrimination against white men. Outlaw racial and gender preferences in hiring.
- cut the welfare state to the bone.
- tax cuts for people born in America from American parents who are starting families or buying homes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (l3YAf)

That is exactly what Trump is doing. It will take more than 9 months.
Posted by: runner

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With any luck, the effects will be measurable by 2028.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (n7rxJ)

235 I am a little unclear what some of these people want to change. But voting to destroy the system and drive away people paying the bills ain’t it.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 05, 2025 02:35 PM

It's working for them this cycle though.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (pVSzv)

236 Back to the Future 40th Anniversary.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (5Go8e)

237 Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (iFTx/)

There is some truth to your last point but I still think it misses the mark. Even if you do save, it’s incredibly difficult to attain anything of real value.

This is what millennials and zoomers see.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (eZwyX)
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Maybe. But if you don't save, you are never gonna be in the game. So yea -- if you save and do everything right, and still get fucked, then you have a legit gripe. But if you don't save, then that's on you. You never gave yourself a chance.

And savings and investments add up quick, especially in a strong market like we've had. But in order to save, you must first forgo spending that money on immediate gratification. I know that's hard to do, but older generations did it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

238 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:30 PM (3qp0C)

Thanks (you and "FDA Director", Morticia, others I may have missed) for providing the nuance.
The Admin's priorities can be a touchy subject but I think they'd done as reasonably as can be expected (with exceptions I've noted).
Other people here are summing up what I think so well maybe I shouldn't even comment.

Posted by: gKWVE at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (1ET9J)

239 210 - end immigration. All of it.
- deport every non-citizen
- end DEI. End all discrimination against white men. Outlaw racial and gender preferences in hiring.
- cut the welfare state to the bone.
- tax cuts for people born in America from American parents who are starting families or buying homes.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:31 PM (l3YAf)

Find ways for the unskilled/underskilled to acquire marketable job skills without having to risk going deep into debt.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (UnA8+)

240
* Mark "Ol' Yeller" Levin has courageously entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 05, 2025 02:29 PM (Tm9id)
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Mark Levin sucks. He says over and over that he's not a "special pleader" for Israel (or to a lesser extent, Ukraine) and then proceeds to spend at least 2/3 of every show screaming about how we aren't supporting either of those countries with enough treasure, weapons, or American blood.

Fuck him in particular. I'm not a fan of Tucker anymore, but it's particularly galling to me that Levin has taken to calling him "Qatarlson" implying that he's on the take from Qatar, which he very well might be, but if Mark Levin has never taken money from Israel or Israel-aligned organizations, I'll eat several hats. It's rank hypocrisy.

Aging loudmouth neocon chickenhawk gonna do aging loudmouth neocon chickenhawk things, I guess.

Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (3BwY8)

241 Can you trade loaded like at the craps table?

Not only can you be drunk off your ass trading online, pants are completely optional
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:33 PM

*shifty eyes*

*checks tape over webam*
Posted by: toby928(c)

Don't worry. The tape came off hours ago.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (GlKAP)

242 Almost all the 20- and 30-somethings I know aren't planning for their future like older generations did. They're not saving. They're spending, on frivolities.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

My leftist sister put it this way "I can afford all the toys I want, but I won't ever be able to afford a down payment on a house."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (a+4eV)

243 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:16 PM (l3YAf)

Pretty much. And people who refuse to understand that this is the case, not an idealized nostalgia-shaded economy of 1955 where a firm handshake and solid eye contact will get you a lucrative 40-year career track that takes you to senior management and a handsome pension at the end, are part of the problem not the solution.

Posted by: A lot of the "right" needs to get its head out of its ass at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (TbWk/)

244 did you guys go and watch Erin Molan's interview with Dalia Zyada ? it will make you feel better !

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (g47mK)

245 211 ee #11 in this thread. A lot of what is now called "downwardly mobile professionals" voted for Mamdani. Of course it's still silly to vote for rent freezes if you think your rent is too high, but the educated, hard-working teachers, junior lawyers, and software engineers who are frustrated by their inability to buy a house and start a family are getting emotional about their plight, not more rational.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 05, 2025 02:23 PM (n7rxJ)
_________________________

It's indicative of the Democrat party. The Party, itself, consists of "one trick ponies" because it's made up of single issue cliches. When their chosen issue comes up they expect the rest of the cliches to join the fray and vote in mass (even if that issue contradicts their own beliefs such as Gays/Muslims). As a result, they seldom view the whole picture, or the repercussions and consequences that could (and usually do) result.

That's why there is such a dynamic hate generated for Trump and the Right. It's the only way to keep such a vast collection of single issue voters on the same page and in union.

However, politics (at least in the US) is cyclical.

Posted by: Orson at November 05, 2025 02:38 PM (dIske)

246 If Donilon was going to get paid up to $8 million to get Biden over the finish line, how much have others in his position gotten in the past?

Also, what do donors think of people and campaigns which are compensated in this fashion?

Posted by: Darrell Harris - Je Suis Charlie at November 05, 2025 02:38 PM (0CU3H)

247 I am a little unclear what some of these people want to change. But voting to destroy the system and drive away people paying the bills ain’t it.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 05, 2025 02:35 PM (fB/cf)

Not that surprising. They are being promised the moon as long as they give this guy power.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:38 PM (zZu0s)

248 So explain how this has anything to do with Fuentes attacking Trump non-stop before and after the election when objectively Trump has been the best president on illegals and border security of any president in the modern era.

You can't reason someone out of a position they never reasoned into. Fuentes is a grifter who will say anything to impressionable young people even bald faced lies to get clicks and money. He's not a principled, rational actor. He's a new era shock jock who thinks it's edgy and cool to say Stalin is his hero, Hitler was a great man and the holocaust never happened. He's garbage.
Posted by: jack straw

Hey may well be. But like Stern was garbage he had tens of millions of people who adored him.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:38 PM (3qp0C)

249 Find ways for the unskilled/underskilled to acquire marketable job skills without having to risk going deep into debt.

This is an interesting one as a lot of older economic models failed due to immigration, covid, and the government taking so much money out of the economy.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:38 PM (sKqQm)

250 There is some kind of Gold Mine in Alaska that people are talking about.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:39 PM (5Go8e)

251 dammit, I'm out of cigarettes. I gotta go to the quickmart to be fleesed.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:39 PM (pVSzv)

252 Maybe. But if you don't save, you are never gonna be in the game. So yea -- if you save and do everything right, and still get fucked, then you have a legit gripe. But if you don't save, then that's on you. You never gave yourself a chance.

And savings and investments add up quick, especially in a strong market like we've had. But in order to save, you must first forgo spending that money on immediate gratification. I know that's hard to do, but older generations did it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

The core problem is that most people under 40 don't believe there's any hope for a good future anymore. As Proverbs says, Without Hope, the people perish.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (uWKK8)

253 233 If you’re a man under 40-45, you’ve been legally discriminated against your whole life.

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an exaggeration, maybe started under obama, definitely became a cult under Biden

Not an exaggeration, an undersell. The government started discriminating bigly against men under Nixon.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (Riz8t)

254 Boomers and some GenX still do the “nobody wants to work” thing while every job application on linked in has 1000 resumes submitted.

Thats also a part of the disconnect.

Will Mamdani fix that? Of course not. But it helps explain his appeal.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (3qp0C)

255 *shifty eyes*

*checks tape over webam*
Posted by: toby928(c)

Don't worry. The tape came off hours ago.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (GlKAP)

You might want to get that growth looked at.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (zZu0s)

256 What's a pack these days?

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (5Go8e)

257 That is exactly what Trump is doing. It will take more than 9 months.
Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:32 PM (g47mK)

Yes, and young men flocked to Trump. But Trump is only one man. His EOs haven’t been codified into law, despite his party controlling all three branches of government.

It’s almost like the treacherous GOP is just waiting Trump out and hoping to go back to grifting as the permanent minority party in 2027 or 2029, and people see that.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (l3YAf)

258 Find ways for the unskilled/underskilled to acquire marketable job skills without having to risk going deep into debt.
Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:37 PM (UnA8+)

Yep. Reshoring and immigration reform should help but it will take time and consistency. And the whole college-to-minimum-wage-dead-end-job pipeline needs to go the way of Nordstream.

Posted by: But we're talking a massive shift at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)

259 I would love to see the breakdown, social breakdown of who voted for the jihadi.

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (g47mK)

260 Compound interest is a hell of a thing. Putting even small amounts of money into things like CDs or HYSAs when you are young can make a big different later in life.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (sKqQm)

261 And savings and investments add up quick, especially in a strong market like we've had. But in order to save, you must first forgo spending that money on immediate gratification. I know that's hard to do, but older generations did it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)
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No, they don't. Not when inflation eats most of your gains before you realize them. (Yes I know we're moving in the right direction there, but the last few years have been, well, a thing.)

There is no universe where a "normal kid" who starts out at ground zero without a trust fund to help out can live in a major city in the US and have any hope of being a legit homeowner without just falling ass-over-teakettle into some serious good luck.

You can live in a railroad apartment in NYC with six roommates eating nothing but ramen for 10 years and you won't have enough for a down payment in a neighborhood where you won't get shot for going outside.

Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (3BwY8)

262 Maybe. But if you don't save, you are never gonna be in the game. So yea -- if you save and do everything right, and still get fucked, then you have a legit gripe. But if you don't save, then that's on you. You never gave yourself a chance.

And savings and investments add up quick, especially in a strong market like we've had. But in order to save, you must first forgo spending that money on immediate gratification. I know that's hard to do, but older generations did it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

The core problem is that most people under 40 don't believe there's any hope for a good future anymore. As Proverbs says, Without Hope, the people perish.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (uWKK

______

I agree, but that's on them. You can't win if you don't play. But you can lose if you don't play.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

263 Legal discrimination against white men has been around as long as I’ve been alive. And I’m old-ish.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (3qp0C)

264 Young white men had many more choices than Fuentes to be their role model.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (EYmYM)

265 >>Hey may well be. But like Stern was garbage he had tens of millions of people who adored him.

And now he's an irrelevant old fool in a wig.

By all means, speak with the same people Fuentes does but point out the fallacies and lies of Fuentes arguments. Don't put your around him and celebrate him like Tucker is doing. The Democrat Party is learning the hard way what happens when bring ignorant radicals into the tent instead of defeating their lies.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (viF8m)

266 What's a pack these days?
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM

Marlboro 72s are up past $8. It's killing me multiple ways.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (pVSzv)

267 Maybe. But if you don't save, you are never gonna be in the game. So yea -- if you save and do everything right, and still get fucked, then you have a legit gripe.

Here's where they fuck that up:
When you want government to pay for everything, your taxes go up. Property, city, county, state & federal.

You want that cool park and hiking/biking trail? Your taxes are paying for it.
You want your high schooler to play football in a pro level $100 million dollar stadium? Your school taxes go up.
You want 15 libraries? Your city taxes are going up.
And on & on & on.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (+Dm7G)

268 Legal discrimination against white men has been around as long as I’ve been alive. And I’m old-ish.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM

I read that as Irish.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (pVSzv)

269 I'm Native American, I waa born here.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (5Go8e)

270 258 Yep. Reshoring and immigration reform should help but it will take time and consistency. And the whole college-to-minimum-wage-dead-end-job pipeline needs to go the way of Nordstream.
Posted by: But we're talking a massive shift at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (TbWk/)

Not even talking about college here.

There needs to be a way to catch up those who didn't get to go to college, too.

I know that this isn't a conservative policy, but maybe some sort of finding ways to get companies to train unskilled people up enough for entry-level skilled positions.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (UnA8+)

271 Compound interest is a hell of a thing. Putting even small amounts of money into things like CDs or HYSAs when you are young can make a big different later in life.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (sKqQm)

Interest rates are below inflation. This isn’t the post-Volcker, pre-2008 regime. You’ll slowly go broke in savings and bonds.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (l3YAf)

272 Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

Older generations also saw light at the end of the tunnel. My and younger generations don’t really see it, I’m not saying you’re wrong about saving either, there’s just so little to look forward to in reality.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (eZwyX)

273 disconnect between wants and needs ?

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (g47mK)

274 And savings and investments add up quick, especially in a strong market like we've had. But in order to save, you must first forgo spending that money on immediate gratification. I know that's hard to do, but older generations did it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)
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No, they don't. Not when inflation eats most of your gains before you realize them. (Yes I know we're moving in the right direction there, but the last few years have been, well, a thing.)

There is no universe where a "normal kid" who starts out at ground zero without a trust fund to help out can live in a major city in the US and have any hope of being a legit homeowner without just falling ass-over-teakettle into some serious good luck.

You can live in a railroad apartment in NYC with six roommates eating nothing but ramen for 10 years and you won't have enough for a down payment in a neighborhood where you won't get shot for going outside.
Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (3BwY

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People do exactly what you describe all the time. Do you think all homeowners are trust fund babies or won the lottery? They obviously aren't.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

275 Why don't the Gen Zers prove us fusty old Boomers wrong. All they have to do is give up Starbucks, boutique clothes, restaurant meals, etc., and save the money, and when that proves not to be enough to move them ahead, they'll be able to shut us down.

I have 4 millennial kids, and 3 out of 4 already own their own houses. It can be done, but it takes work, planning, and delayed gratification.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

276 The expired vapes are $9/30ml.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (5Go8e)

277 Interest rates are below inflation. This isn’t the post-Volcker, pre-2008 regime. You’ll slowly go broke in savings and bonds.

HYSA/CDs are still above interest rates.

Amusingly they weren't under Biden.

Note: I'm not saying these are where young people should put their money - they should be more aggressive, but right now you will earn a small amount with even the safest of investments

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:44 PM (sKqQm)

278 It might be cheaper to just drink.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 05, 2025 02:44 PM (5Go8e)

279 Median home in my city costs $700k. Without me providing a down payment (which I will happily do) my kids would probably not be able to buy a home until well into to their 30s or even 40s.

I bought my first home at 27.

Shit like this matters. And the boomer attitude of “just don’t go to Starbucks and you can buy a home ” doesn’t help.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:44 PM (3qp0C)

280 Median home in my city costs $700k.

==

that means little, how many bedrooms , how large of a home ?

Posted by: runner at November 05, 2025 02:45 PM (g47mK)

281 Legal discrimination against white men has been around as long as I’ve been alive. And I’m old-ish.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM

I read that as Irish.
Posted by: toby928(c)

Same same.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (+Dm7G)

282 Shit like this matters. And the boomer attitude of “just don’t go to Starbucks and you can buy a home ” doesn’t help.

I believe both of these things are true - younger people are doing a worse job then their parents in saving AND the government has increased cost of life/housing dramatically.

I would like to see Trump and co spell this out more consistently...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (sKqQm)

283 Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (3BwY

You really shouldn't use NYC or SanFran as an example.

I moved multiple times when I was younger to be able to build my life. When I lived in NY in the 90's I couldn't afford a house either.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (EYmYM)

284 271 Compound interest is a hell of a thing. Putting even small amounts of money into things like CDs or HYSAs when you are young can make a big different later in life.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM (sKqQm)

Interest rates are below inflation. This isn’t the post-Volcker, pre-2008 regime. You’ll slowly go broke in savings and bonds.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM

I have a HYSA. I get .03% interest on it. I can get a short-term CD paying about 3.75% but it’s not a wealth-generating proposition.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (rbKZ6)

285 I have enough for a down payment, but my father keeps calling me and saying "Don't you even f***ing think about it. I don't want you owning a house. You haven't earned it, and you don't deserve it."

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (UnA8+)

286 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:44 PM (3qp0C)

Correct.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (eZwyX)

287 Boomers and some GenX still do the “nobody wants to work” thing while every job application on linked in has 1000 resumes submitted.

Thats also a part of the disconnect.

No, they don't. Not when inflation eats most of your gains before you realize them.

Because inflation and recessions never happened when the Boomers were younger.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:47 PM (Riz8t)

288 Why don't the Gen Zers prove us fusty old Boomers wrong. All they have to do is give up Starbucks, boutique clothes, restaurant meals, etc., and save the money, and when that proves not to be enough to move them ahead, they'll be able to shut us down.

I have 4 millennial kids, and 3 out of 4 already own their own houses. It can be done, but it takes work, planning, and delayed gratification.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)
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Exactly. It can be done, and it is done. I'm shocked I'm getting so much pushback on what is (or should be) a non-controversial point about one of the foundations of reliable wealth for only the last few thousand years. Even rich people can't build wealth if they spend all their money.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 05, 2025 02:47 PM (iFTx/)

289 HYSAs are generally better then that saving account you get when you open a checking account pretty much anywhere...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2025 02:47 PM (sKqQm)

290 Median home in my city costs $700k. Without me providing a down payment (which I will happily do) my kids would probably not be able to buy a home until well into to their 30s or even 40s.

Prices are so variable across the country that I find it difficult to compare. Is there a years@median salary/median Homeprice table anywhere?

I mean $700k is very pricey here, and this is a high priced part of the view area, so to speak. One of the fastest growing counties in Alabama.

Posted by: toby928(c) at November 05, 2025 02:48 PM (pVSzv)

291 281 Legal discrimination against white men has been around as long as I’ve been alive. And I’m old-ish.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:41 PM

I read that as Irish.
Posted by: toby928(c)

Same same.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (+Dm7G)

Well the Irish were discriminated against pretty badly so it tracks.

Posted by: We'll take the naggers and the chinks, but no Irish! at November 05, 2025 02:48 PM (TbWk/)

292 Nood….

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 05, 2025 02:48 PM (/Ohqa)

293 Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:47 PM (Riz8t)

How much was the dollar worth then compared to now?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:49 PM (eZwyX)

294 By all means, speak with the same people Fuentes does but point out the fallacies and lies of Fuentes arguments. Don't put your around him and celebrate him like Tucker is doing. The Democrat Party is learning the hard way what happens when bring ignorant radicals into the tent instead of defeating their lies.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2025 02:42 PM (viF8m)

To understand Fuentes, you have to understand Internet culture. He’s a troll. He’s not a serious thinker, but trolls can make people laugh.

Trolls, like the jesters of old, can also voice uncomfortable truths that are otherwise unspeakable.

Fuentes also taps into legitimate grievances. The truck is to separate him from those who share his grievances while pointing out what a gay little fool he is. Charlie Kirk was doing that. Matt Walsh still does.

As for the left, embracing their radicals was actually a brilliant move. They can now win as open communists. It’s tough to counter that.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:49 PM (l3YAf)

295 Say Starbucks is $10 a day every day. Thats $3650 a year.

Do you really think $3650 a year is what’s causing young people to not afford a home when you need $200k for a down payment and then another $4-5k a month for a mortgage, with a median income of $6k a month pre tax?

I mean come on.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (3qp0C)

296 We're also in a strange economic position where luxuries are cheap and necessities are expensive as hell.

Hard to blame someone for putting a $300 HDTV in their one-bedroom apartment where the rent is $1500 a month just to have some kind of comfort and entertainment.

Also, when you're paying rents like that, saving for a 20% down payment on a $500,000 one-bedroom condo seems both out of reach and also pointless. Let alone buying a nice single-family home somewhere. It used to be that if you were willing to suck up a 45+ minute commute to the city, you could live in a nice neighborhood where your kids were safe and you could afford the mortgage. Good luck with any of that these days.

Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (3BwY8)

297 A majority of (for lack of a better term -- I'm aware it's Marxist) "The Working Class," those with less than a Bachelor's Degree, didn't vote for the Islamist. Commie.

It was the majority of the Educated Asses Masses who did.

Academe Delenda Est!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (qNjkY)

298 You know an odd thing?

I recently quit all nicotine (about 3 months.)

I quit smoking real cigarettes, but had been raping since 2011.

It was far easier than quitting syright smoking cold turkey was.

But an oddity was when cravings hit, it is not for vaping. It is for a straight up full flavor camel wide. Which seems odd to me since I have not had one of those in overv14 years now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (zZu0s)

299 Older generations also saw light at the end of the tunnel. My and younger generations don’t really see it, I’m not saying you’re wrong about saving either, there’s just so little to look forward to in reality.

TBH, a lot of this sounds like people who say "now is not a good time to have kids". You can always talk yourself out of something, but in the end, you'll then end up with nothing.

Some boomers did something similar in saying the threat of nuclear war and environmental destruction prevented them from having kids, but that always sounded to me like an excuse more than a reason.

I'm not saying you're making excuses, but I also think sometimes you just have to get on the merry go round, scary or not.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (Riz8t)

300 Vaping, not raping. Wtf phone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:51 PM (zZu0s)

301 To understand Fuentes, you have to understand Internet culture. He’s a troll. He’s not a serious thinker, but trolls can make people laugh.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at November 05, 2025 02:49 PM (l3YAf)

He's the Dane Cook of Milo Yiannopolouses.

Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:51 PM (3BwY8)

302 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:44 PM (3qp0C)

Correct.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:46 PM (eZwyX)

How is that correct? I guess sacrifice to obtain a goal is a forgotten virtue and now considered verboten to try and instill.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:51 PM (EYmYM)

303 Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:47 PM (Riz8t)

How much was the dollar worth then compared to now?

What was the average salary then compared to now?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:52 PM (Riz8t)

304 He's the Dane Cook of Milo Yiannopolouses.
Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:51 PM (3BwY

Hmm, we need to work in something about how annoying he is...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:53 PM (zZu0s)

305 Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:51 PM (EYmYM)

Because those are the realities on the ground as I see them and discuss with people in the affected generations.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 05, 2025 02:54 PM (eZwyX)

306 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 05, 2025 02:40 PM (3qp0C)

Submitting a resume doesn't mean you want to work. My job environment is filled with people who don't want to work.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2025 02:55 PM (Lze6B)

307 Mike and his brother Tom Donilon have been neck deep in all Deep State schemes over the years...

Posted by: Danimal28 at November 05, 2025 02:55 PM (klw0w)

308 A house that was $150,000 5 years ago is $300,000 now.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:55 PM (UnA8+)

309 1st house - 29 yrs old. Wife was 26.
2 bedroom/1bath. 1991 $59,500.

Oh, that house was $30k below market value because it was only a 2 bedroom/1 bath in a neighborhood with a middle school a half block over AND the owner's company moved them back east and couldn't sell a tiny house in a family neighborhood.

Lived there 31 years before selling and moving.
Lived there until prices went crazy.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:55 PM (+Dm7G)

310 Why don't the Gen Zers prove us fusty old Boomers wrong. All they have to do is give up Starbucks, boutique clothes, restaurant meals, etc., and save the money, and when that proves not to be enough to move them ahead, they'll be able to shut us down.

I have 4 millennial kids, and 3 out of 4 already own their own houses. It can be done, but it takes work, planning, and delayed gratification.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

Doing the math, my first house in 1988 was $155,000. Thats Around $410,000 -$420,000 in todays money. I sold it for $382,000 a few years ago. The young couple I sold it to is roughly in the same boat I was when I bought it, or actually a ahead of the game since the house was waaaaay more nicer than when they got it. So comparing money to money it roughly cost them what it cost me. So yeah, it could be done. BUT, the cost of everything else went stupid. My property taxes in 1988 were $2400, thats 6-7K in today's money, but the property taxes when I sold it were $9700, so that alone was 3k out of whack. It is rougher today, no doubt. Doable, but harder than when I did it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 05, 2025 02:56 PM (snZF9)

311 I quit smoking real cigarettes, but had been raping since 2011.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (zZu0s)

Tough habit to break.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2025 02:56 PM (Lze6B)

312 Posted by: ballistic at November 05, 2025 02:50 PM (3BwY

I just sold one of my townhomes in Houston for 375k . They had others in the community for less. Mostly Young business couples and retirees live there.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:57 PM (EYmYM)

313 Say Starbucks is $10 a day every day. Thats $3650 a year.

Do you really think $3650 a year is what’s causing young people to not afford a home when you need $200k for a down payment and then another $4-5k a month for a mortgage, with a median income of $6k a month pre tax?

I mean come on.

You come on. If you're spending $4k a year on coffee, it's probable that you spend lots on other frivolities as well. It's a mind set. That's why I mentioned several other things, and there are lots more. If you spend $20 on a pair of socks because they supposedly send another pair to some 3rd world country, then you're living beyond your means.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 02:57 PM (Riz8t)

314 Say Starbucks is $10 a day every day. Thats $3650 a year.

Do you really think $3650 a year is what’s causing young people to not afford a home when you need $200k for a down payment and then another $4-5k a month for a mortgage, with a median income of $6k a month pre tax?

I mean come on.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

When they do it twice a day and then doordash dinner? Yeah.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 02:58 PM (+Dm7G)

315 A house that was $150,000 5 years ago is $300,000 now.
Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:55 PM (UnA8+)

All depends on the location.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:59 PM (EYmYM)

316 @EricLDaugh

The White House is SLAMMING CNN for outright REFUSING to air President Trump’s landmark economic address

KAROLINE LEAVITT: “President Trump is giving a major economic speech and CNN is not covering it live. They don’t want their audience to hear President Trump’s pro-growth, America First economic vision!”

They don’t want his economic wins getting out because they’re trying to help the Democrats in the midterms.
tinyurl.com/3nsrd7ff

Posted by: redridinghood at November 05, 2025 03:00 PM (NpAcC)

317 315 A house that was $150,000 5 years ago is $300,000 now.
Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 02:55 PM (UnA8+)

All depends on the location.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 02:59 PM (EYmYM)

The area that I live in. Prices have skyrocketed over the past 5 years.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 03:00 PM (UnA8+)

318 Do you really think $3650 a year is what’s causing young people to not afford a home when you need $200k for a down payment and then another $4-5k a month for a mortgage, with a median income of $6k a month pre tax?

I mean come on.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

That $3650/year on coffee? That's your annual property tax. That you now have to come up with because you blew it on coffee.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 03:00 PM (+Dm7G)

319 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

200k down payment? I think I see the problem. Their first house shouldn't be a million dollars.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:01 PM (EYmYM)

320 This country is choking on the Cloward-Piven affect. So much that made this country the juggernaut of prosperity and freedom has been corrupted to the point of unrecognizability.

The union is no more. Constitutional/freedom-loving people need to start looking for ways to separate ourselves from the dogshit left. Elections aren't cutting it anymore.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 05, 2025 03:02 PM (g8Ew8)

321 Fwench noods

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 03:02 PM (+Dm7G)

322 The area that I live in. Prices have skyrocketed over the past 5 years.
Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 03:00 PM (UnA8+)

Too bad you didn't buy five years ago. You would have made a tidy profit.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (EYmYM)

323 321 Fwench noods
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 03:02 PM (+Dm7G)

People know.

They're just not ready to give the housing topic up for L'Homme Jihad right now.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (UnA8+)

324 322 Too bad you didn't buy five years ago. You would have made a tidy profit.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (EYmYM)

Didn't have the money to buy then.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (UnA8+)

325 Fwench noods
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at November 05, 2025 03:02 PM (+Dm7G)

People know.

They're just not ready to give the housing topic up for L'Homme Jihad right now.

I dunno. French noods can be pretty enticing.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (Riz8t)

326 Too bad you didn't buy five years ago. You would have made a tidy profit.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (EYmYM)

Didn't have the money to buy then.
Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 03:03 PM (UnA8+

My point is maybe five years from now that300k house will be valued at 600k.

That is how people move up in the housing market.

Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:05 PM (EYmYM)

327 326 My point is maybe five years from now that300k house will be valued at 600k.

That is how people move up in the housing market.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:05 PM (EYmYM)

And wages will not even remotely keep up.

Posted by: XTC at November 05, 2025 03:07 PM (UnA8+)

328 We are all like Constantine guy, the movie not real history.

We see the demons.

Boring, lying creatures.

Posted by: thug dolphin at November 05, 2025 03:10 PM (EyfuW)

329 327 326 My point is maybe five years from now that300k house will be valued at 600k.

That is how people move up in the housing market.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 05, 2025 03:05 PM (EYmYM)

And wages will not even remotely keep up.
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All fixer uppers are rented to illegals, as well.

Posted by: Pudinhead at November 05, 2025 03:22 PM (jFCkp)

330 We spend $100 billion a year on “intelligence”, your telling me we need to send money to another country (Israel) for “intelligence” too because our $100 billion a year intelligence apparatus isn’t good enough?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at November 05, 2025 03:42 PM (fN5AQ)

331 Idea to bring down cost of cars

* Create new category (low cost/Long life)
* Relaxed set of safety and emissions requirements
* Consortium agreed car computer with open source code and open hardware for replacements
* "Right to repair by owner" design with full diagnostic SW package available as freeware
* must be manufactured on U.S. soil with U.S. engine
* No sensor replacement cost above $100
* All mission critical sensors are open SW/HW
* BONUS- get rid of rules that are keeping small pickup trucks from being made

Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at November 05, 2025 04:05 PM (2Nfh9)

332 His evasion was obvious.
"I think" it was 4M$. You can be darn sure if the bonus was $4M that you know for absolute sure.

If you're Elon Musk with 500B$ you can maybe get away with saying "I Think" about a 4m$ bonus, but not that asswipe donillon.

Posted by: hate_the_deepstate at November 05, 2025 04:10 PM (2Nfh9)

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