Alberta Independence is Inching Forward; Glenn Beck Says the Trump Administration is Ready to Recognize Alberta as an Independent Country

The Alberta Independence Movement is proceeding toward secession from Canada. Toward that end, there will be a peaceful rally at the provincial capital in Edmonton tomorrow.

“Independence rally at Alberta Legislature could see tens of thousands” [Juno News – 10/21/2025]

Tens of thousands of Albertans are expected to descend upon the Alberta Legislature this Saturday for the “I Am Alberta” rally, organized by the Alberta Prosperity Project, which is also coordinating bus transport across the province.

This is a topic I keep returning to because I want to do my little part to help move the needle. Although I have stated my support for statehood for Alberta and Saskatchewan, the important thing is that the conservative prairie provinces break free from Ottawa’s suppression, irrespective of statehood, and that they know they have the support of the United States. A conservative, new nation north of the 49th parallel, with a petroleum and ranching based economy, would be a welcome neighbor.

In an August piece titled “Canada Has Recognized the Nation of Palestine, Trump Should Recognize the Independence of Alberta & Quebec” I wrote that the U.S. should offer ”whatever US security and aid is necessary for those provinces to liberate themselves from the Canadian federation, if requested.”

The Trump administration is apparently ready to do just that. Glenn Beck reports that, ”My understanding from the meetings that have occurred is that the Trump admin officials have indicated that the US would recognize a vote by the people of Alberta to become independent.”

The Trump admin is OPEN to recoginizing Alberta as an independent nation if it votes to secede from Canada in 2026, the lawyer leading the Alberta separatist referendum @ikwilson tells me:

"My understanding from the meetings that have occured is that the Trump admin officials… pic.twitter.com/3P4opCnbfS
— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) October 2, 2025

Whatever Canada might have once been in the 20th century, that country is gone. The population of the Toronto metro area is now less than 50% Canadian-born, and Vancouver is little different. There is no expectation that immigrants assimilate or become culturally Canadian, because Canada’s own political leadership rejects the legitimacy of the country. As I have written before, “Canada’s strange political experiment is showing signs of collapse. The ruling class in Ottawa derides the very existence of their country — obsessed with ‘stolen land’ narratives and hostile to their own national culture. Their last remaining shred of civic unity is anti-Americanism.”

The prairie provinces have nominal political influence in the national government and they’re not anti-American. They’re treated like colonies or territories at best, and they deserve independence. I am glad to hear that recognition from the Trump administration is ready and waiting as soon as Alberta declares itself independent.

Alberta has every hallmark of an exploited colony.

Our wealth flows to a distant capital that bleeds us dry, offers nothing in return, and holds us back from achieving our true potential.

Alberta builds. Ottawa takes.

Independence is how Alberta moves forward. pic.twitter.com/2Awv9vbWsT
— Rise Of Alberta (@RiseOfAlberta) October 21, 2025

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 WOw

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:02 AM (GbwPZ)

2 Ok with me.

Posted by: fd at October 24, 2025 11:03 AM (vFG9F)

3 I had not heard this before - go, Alberta!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

4 I could have been first but I held the door for Lizzy.

Posted by: fd at October 24, 2025 11:03 AM (vFG9F)

5 Does this mean war between Alberta and Canada proper?

Posted by: Don Black at October 24, 2025 11:03 AM (AOsQT)

6 Glen Beck's kinda looking like those aliens from This Island Earth.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 24, 2025 11:04 AM (PiwSw)

7 What is happening with Beck's fried skin?!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:04 AM (GbwPZ)

8 I look forward to AOP's opinion on this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2025 11:04 AM (kgE5c)

9 AOP for Supreme Benevolent Dictator of Alberta!

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 24, 2025 11:04 AM (8AONa)

10 >>I could have been first but I held the door for Lizzy.

Thank you, good sir!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:04 AM (GbwPZ)

11 AOP for President of Alberta!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 24, 2025 11:05 AM (PiwSw)

12 Safe to assume Alberta's government is not being run by Indian immigrants?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:05 AM (GbwPZ)

13 Luck to Alberta.
The Canadians, or the Brits, will never ever let them leave.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 24, 2025 11:07 AM (xcxpd)

14 God bless Alberta. I think the Canadian government will come down hard on them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 24, 2025 11:07 AM (lQ+/f)

15 Not only should America immediately recognize it as an independent nation, we should grant it Zero tarrifs on all goods, in or out, and promise full military protection, if necessary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2025 11:07 AM (uWKK8)

16 “Canada Has Recognized the Nation of Palestine, Trump Should Recognize the Independence of Alberta & Quebec” I

Quebec voted down independence last time it came up didn't it?

If Alberta votes for it though Trump should immediately recognize it and offer it military protection from Canada.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 24, 2025 11:08 AM (sKqQm)

17 Quebec has held votes on independence in the past and fallen short of the 50% mark. I have been assured that, had all of Canada participated in the vote, Quebec would already be an independent country.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 24, 2025 11:09 AM (GPa4z)

18 "Let's see Alberta feed itself when they've cut themselves off from our regulatory environment!"
-Ottawa, it seems

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 24, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)

19 The ruling class in Ottawa derides the very existence of their country — obsessed with ‘stolen land’ narratives and hostile to their own national culture. Their last remaining shred of civic unity is anti-Americanism.
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You could say the same for the US during the Obama/Biden regime. Except for the last part, only a little less than half the US is anti-American.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 11:10 AM (Dv3i1)

20
When Hoser comes marching home again
huzzah
huzzah

Posted by: Don Black at October 24, 2025 11:10 AM (AOsQT)

21 The ruling class in Ottawa derides the very existence of their country - obsessed with 'stolen land' narratives and hostile to their own national culture

The "elites" are happy to give *your* land away, but they're keeping theirs. Fck 'em.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2025 11:11 AM (ULPxl)

22 We have credible intelligence that Moose Limb terrorists are operating in Alberta. It is therefore imperative that the full might of the United States military invade Alberta and engage in nation building.

Posted by: Zombie Colin Powell at October 24, 2025 11:13 AM (cEHXL)

23 The best thing for the western world right now is a bunch of regions to declare independence from their authoritarian central governments.

Not only would it be immediately good for those leaving, it would give those authoritarian central governments pause in considering just how much they can loot their provinces before losing them

Posted by: 18-1 at October 24, 2025 11:13 AM (sKqQm)

24 >>> 17 Quebec has held votes on independence in the past and fallen short of the 50% mark. I have been assured that, had all of Canada participated in the vote, Quebec would already be an independent country.
Posted by: Oglebay at October 24, 2025 11:09 AM (GPa4z)

Not the same. Quebec is populated by cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 24, 2025 11:13 AM (ULPxl)

25 20
When Hoser comes marching home again
huzzah
huzzah
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:13 AM (jFCkp)

26 9
‘ AOP for Supreme Benevolent Dictator of Alberta!’

He might not feel like being benevolent .

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:13 AM (jbnUc)

27 what exactly is, or was, the national culture of Canada, beyond 'at least we're not America, eh'

no offense, and I might be ignorant of the history, but Canada was founded by Tories, yeah?

Posted by: Don Black at October 24, 2025 11:13 AM (AOsQT)

28 The "elites" are happy to give *your* land away, but they're keeping theirs. Fck 'em./i]

Saw a meme with a bunch of transtifa types holding up a "Return Stolen Land" sign...and then a bunch of American Indians asking why the transtifa members were still here

Posted by: 18-1 at October 24, 2025 11:14 AM (sKqQm)

29 I wish CA would have a referendum to split into North and South CA ( actually east and west would be easier if you look at the electoral map) .

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:15 AM (EYmYM)

30 Back in 2009, I commanded the American contingent at the annual Canadian forces Maple Defender military exercise at Fort Wainwright in Alberta. I farm in MN and the people of Alberta were no different than Americans in the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, or other rural/small town people throught the Midwest. They would absolutely be a great neighbor or 51st state.

Posted by: Assassin6 at October 24, 2025 11:15 AM (nOlQO)

31 14 God bless Alberta. I think the Canadian government will come down hard on them.
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Berets vs Cowboy Hats. This is gonna be great!

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:16 AM (jFCkp)

32 Alberta Oil Peon := Alberta Oil Poobah!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:16 AM (EXyHK)

33
"Let's see Alberta feed itself when they've cut themselves off from our regulatory environment!"
-Ottawa, it seems
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 24, 2025 11:10 AM (GBKbO)

Ottawa is probably going to send truckloads of poutine into Alberta, which would be a war crime under the Geneva Conventions.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 24, 2025 11:16 AM (y9nCu)

34 My sense from the Canadian actuaries way back in the day was that, once they reached a certain point in their careers, there was no point in stressing themselves over taken that next step because the government was going to take 90% of any pay bump. They were a fun group at meetings. The Americans were shut up in their rooms working.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 24, 2025 11:16 AM (GPa4z)

35 ‘ The population of the Toronto metro area is now less than 50% Canadian-born, and Vancouver is little different’

These are the legal immigrants I’m supposed to celebrate. They just make the cities more populous and pernicious.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:17 AM (jbnUc)

36 Just out of curiosity: what are Palestine's border? What is Palestinian law based on? What currency do they print? Who maintains their infrastructure? Who delivers the mail?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 24, 2025 11:17 AM (PiwSw)

37 Calgary is a great song by Bon Iver...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 24, 2025 11:17 AM (TGPs7)

38 Posted by: Assassin6 at October 24, 2025 11:15 AM (nOlQO)

They can claim having some of the best snipers in the world.

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:17 AM (EYmYM)

39 The population of the Toronto metro area is now less than 50% Canadian-born, and Vancouver is little different’ /i]

Saw an imagine of a graduating HS class in Toronto. All south asians except one pale blonde. Put then if you zoom in on her she's east asian with dyed hair...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 24, 2025 11:18 AM (sKqQm)

40 Good For Alberta. 5 million people crying for freedom.

Glennda Beck looks like an old lesbian with a beard.

Posted by: Loup Garou at October 24, 2025 11:18 AM (R/m4+)

41 Morning! Buy stock in flag makers. That extra star is going to look good.

Posted by: JSpicy at October 24, 2025 11:18 AM (C7Yya)

42 Upon secession, the Flames and Oilers will see their chances at the Stanley Cup improve.

The Stampeders and Elks might be kicked out of the CFL, though. The Elks might be able to beat the Browns. Maybe petition to move to the NFL.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 11:18 AM (Dv3i1)

43 Saw a meme with a bunch of transtifa types holding up a "Return Stolen Land" sign...and then a bunch of American Indians asking why the transtifa members were still here
Posted by: 18-1 at October 24, 2025 11:14 AM

The Range Babe just sent me a meme of L'opecia Pressley posting about stolen land for "Indigenous Peoples' Day." Someone suggested she return her $1.1 mil property on Martha's Vineyard for a start.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2025 11:18 AM (kgE5c)

44 35 ‘ The population of the Toronto metro area is now less than 50% Canadian-born, and Vancouver is little different’
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Sounds like NOVA. This is how you get CIA Governor Spambooger with SSRI Fore Head.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:18 AM (jFCkp)

45 The best thing for the western world right now is a bunch of regions to declare independence from their authoritarian central governments.

On it!

Posted by: California at October 24, 2025 11:19 AM (Riz8t)

46 I watched the documentary on Who Lost the Expos, or whatever.

Seems to me it boils down to, Canada isn't a real country.

That being said, sure. Let's take Alberta, and BC. We'll give them Maine and New Hamster, and Green Mountain.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (dGCAG)

47 Alberta Oil Peon := Alberta Oil Poobah!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:16 AM

Alberta Oil PM.

Make it happen!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (kgE5c)

48 If Alberta and Saskatchewan secede, does it become likely that a secessionist movement surfaces in CA, OR, and WA?

Posted by: Kevin Cutts at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (xKHIr)

49 Conor McDavid will finally win a Stanley Cup once Alberta is no longer part of Canada.

Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (UnA8+)

50 48 If Alberta and Saskatchewan secede, does it become likely that a secessionist movement surfaces in CA, OR, and WA?

Posted by: Kevin Cutts at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (xKHIr)

======

When Trump puts tariffs on water and energy to California...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 24, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

51 Buy stock in flag makers. That extra star is going to look good.

I like nice round numbers like 50, so I say we admit Alberta and expel Massachusetts.

Posted by: California at October 24, 2025 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

52 Coming up next: "Donald Trump was impeached for expressing support to a country and threatening Our Sacred Democracy!™"

Posted by: NR Pax at October 24, 2025 11:22 AM (OPGS/)

53 Good for Alberta and Saskatchewan! I wish them luck in liberation. May you become part of a co-prosperity sphere with Texas.

Why do people think the current situation is set in stone? Why laugh at annexing Greenland? Even I snickered at first, but then thought, why realign for the benefit of all concerned? Or at least consider it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 24, 2025 11:22 AM (kpS4V)

54 Car 54 Where are you? lmao
Big Trish in court today as a defendant. Pam Blondie has Nancy Pelosi under investigation!!?
What the hell is goin on out dare?
-Zombie Vince Lombardi

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 24, 2025 11:22 AM (VPPG8)

55 Conor McDavid will finally win a Stanley Cup once Alberta is no longer part of Canada.
Posted by: XTC at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (UnA8+)

I thought he was busy trying to beat up Floyd Mayweather, and winning the presidency of Ireland.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (dGCAG)

56 Only problem with letting part of CA secede would them immediately allowing China to take them over.

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (EYmYM)

57 I think the US is finding itself more and more isolated these days. IMO both Canada (as it stands today) and Mexico are hostile neighbors. Add that to the number of hostile states here and us normals are pretty much surrounded.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (Q4IgG)

58 Heh. Go ahead and secede, Kalifornia. We double dog dare ya.

Posted by: Polka will never die at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (nJLZw)

59 Quebec is still in the confederation because they have been getting bribes to stick around. A large chunk of that is coming from Alberta through "equalization."

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (w3u3d)

60
I support this independence movement, but only-

if they change the name of the country from Alberta to Alberto VO5.

Yeah, I got nuthin'.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (iJfKG)

61 The Canadians, or the Brits, will never ever let them leave.
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Posted by: NR Pax at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (OPGS/)

62 They're the Texas of the North.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (dtajH)

63
AOP for President 2036!
He Knows How to Fix Things!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (xG4kz)

64 If Alberta and Saskatchewan secede, does it become likely that a secessionist movement surfaces in CA, OR, and WA?
Posted by: Kevin Cutts at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (xKHIr)

There is a huge chunk of Oregon and Washington that want to join Idaho. Become Greater Idaho.

Kind of like rural Colorado wanting to join Wyoming.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 24, 2025 11:24 AM (PSEDc)

65 Trump supports independence for Alberta but is denying sovereignty for Judea and Samaria.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2025 11:24 AM (QGLzn)

66 Don't hate Alberta because it's beautiful.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2025 11:24 AM (Wnv9h)

67 Alberta Oil PM.

Prime Mechanic.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:24 AM (EXyHK)

68 50 48 If Alberta and Saskatchewan secede, does it become likely that a secessionist movement surfaces in CA, OR, and WA?
_-_
I thought we discussed this.

Posted by: Mr. Lincoln at October 24, 2025 11:25 AM (vd6bO)

69 56
‘ Only problem with letting part of CA secede would them immediately allowing China to take them over.’

Let them secede and then immediately invade them.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:25 AM (jbnUc)

70 Both Banff and Jasper National Parks seem worthy to be annexed by USA.

Posted by: Ranger Gord at October 24, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)

71 Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (Q4IgG)

Got them right where I want them.

Posted by: Chesty at October 24, 2025 11:25 AM (EYmYM)

72 Can't say I know much of Canadian politics, but have read their Providence's can bail out of the country way easier than a US State

Posted by: Skip at October 24, 2025 11:25 AM (xatjc)

73 Why do people think the current situation is set in stone? Why laugh at annexing Greenland? Even I snickered at first, but then thought, why realign for the benefit of all concerned? Or at least consider it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 24, 2025 11:22 AM (kpS4V)

The interesting part is when you start asking who is supposed to be entitled to the land.

One would start with the people living there having first claim to it, and then being allowed to govern themselves without people trying to force anything on them.

But then that starts to get uncomfortable in our current world.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:26 AM (dGCAG)

74 I support this independence movement, but only-

if they change the name of the country from Alberta to Alberto VO5.

Vanadium pentoxide? That's V2O5.

Posted by: Another guy with nothin' at October 24, 2025 11:26 AM (Riz8t)

75 Let them secede and then immediately invade them.
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So the Lincoln Plan, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:26 AM (jFCkp)

76 Pretty damned uppity of them Albertans.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 24, 2025 11:26 AM (XeU6L)

77 >>The Range Babe just sent me a meme of L'opecia Pressley posting about stolen land for "Indigenous Peoples' Day."

Whaaaaat?
F#%^ that sh#t

Posted by: Hannah Dustin, colonial badazz at October 24, 2025 11:26 AM (GbwPZ)

78 Don't hate Alberta because it's beautiful.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 24, 2025 11:24 AM (Wnv9h)

I hate her because she got drunk in a bar and banged half the guys there.

And then sued for alimony.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:27 AM (dGCAG)

79 Canadian visitors have turned Banff into a trash heap. Shameful! Once Alberta joins the US, we will extend Glacier to incorporate Banff and restore its majestic beauty.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 24, 2025 11:27 AM (GPa4z)

80 Don't get too excited, Alberta still has plenty of residents with the latest "Canadian Values", which, in addition to saying "sore-y" a lot, include euthanasia, abortion and a huge welfare state. But it is less bad than Ontario and Montreal, which is good.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 11:27 AM (Dv3i1)

81 The solution to stolen land is apparently to give it to someone who doesn't give a shit if it's stolen. Hmm.

Posted by: ... at October 24, 2025 11:27 AM (ANbpg)

82 I would like to see Alberta secede, but I looked up the rules for doing so a few months ago and, um, fugettaboutit. Among other things, it requires a majority (at least) of all provinces to vote for it. Why would other provinces, who are bleeding Alberta dry, vote to cut off a funding source?

Posted by: Canadian Maple Syrup Is Made Of ... People at October 24, 2025 11:28 AM (qUkBO)

83 >> Only problem with letting part of CA secede would them immediately allowing China to take them over.’

Hard to decide if it is already captured by China or the drug cartels. . .

Posted by: Hannah Dustin, colonial badazz at October 24, 2025 11:28 AM (GbwPZ)

84 The problem with states seceding is that most of them wouldn't want to secede as states; it's mostly just their urban areas. Think Chicago, NYC, and LA/SF. IOW, we'd end up with city states surrounded by a hostile continent.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 24, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

85 Bob and Doug McKenzie's time to shine!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 11:28 AM (wVcYX)

86 Good luck to the Albertans. At least they have an actual king to protest against.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at October 24, 2025 11:29 AM (F2xQR)

87 Bob and Doug McKenzie's time to shine!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 11:28 AM

Slackers.

Posted by: Red Green at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (Wnv9h)

88 You like to call things EXTREMELY early. I do not doubt your telling us about the AB Independence movement. But maybe you should let things play out first. Remember how cocksure you were about how David Cook had the Speaker's chair to himself in the TX HR last December? Yeah, I knew then that Burrows would burrow his way in by way of the Dems.

Declaring an end to an uneventful hurricane season a few weeks ago, prematurely, and we may yet have Melissa make fools of us all.

This is a good thing to watch for but let's not start putting together floor plans for an embassy in Edmonton just yet.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (vwL3N)

89 what about the indians??? don't they own most of it?

Posted by: DanMan at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (8uzBS)

90 65 Trump supports independence for Alberta but is denying sovereignty for Judea and Samaria.
Posted by: Ben Had

Let the Arabs have Judea and Samaria, but only if they do appropriate land acknowledgements of the original indigenous Jews and Samarians.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (Dv3i1)

91 It's all fun and games until the Albertans fire on Ft. Trudeau.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (CwhoI)

92 51st State would be a fine place for Alberta to end up. AOP could be governor and we'd only have to pay him 73 cents on the dollar!

Posted by: Looney Skip Rooney at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (oftw2)

93 Are there Alberta hotties? I don't know. That should be a consideration.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (i24o9)

94 >>The problem with states seceding is that most of them wouldn't want to secede as states; it's mostly just their urban areas. Think Chicago, NYC, and LA/SF. IOW, we'd end up with city states surrounded by a hostile continent.

If these cities could somehow be contained. . .
Half the problem is the ones who've destroyed California and NY have resettled in red states are started destroying them. too (see Colorado).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:31 AM (GbwPZ)

95 This is a good thing to watch for but let's not start putting together floor plans for an embassy in Edmonton just yet.

*points irate finger at the AOSHQ style guide*

Posted by: Archimedes at October 24, 2025 11:31 AM (Riz8t)

96 Are there Alberta hotties? I don't know. That should be a consideration.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (i24o9)

Don't know about Alberta, but saw a picture once that clearly indicated that not everything is flat in Saskatchewan.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (2WIwB)

97 Wow, that Cow Demon is harshing our mellow!

Posted by: Cheep Thrills at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (oftw2)

98 So the Lincoln Plan, rite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:26 AM (jFCkp)

They have to shell a fort first.

Of course, the funny part of all that is the South could have won its independence if it just stopped trying to invade the North, and let the whole thing just simmer.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (dGCAG)

99 80 Don't get too excited, Alberta still has plenty of residents with the latest "Canadian Values", which, in addition to saying "sore-y" a lot, include euthanasia, abortion and a huge welfare state. But it is less bad than Ontario and Montreal, which is good.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 11:27 AM (Dv3i1)

Americans believe in (or should) "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

Canadians believe in "peace, order and good government".

That says it all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (vwL3N)

100 92
‘ AOP could be governor and we'd only have to pay him 73 cents on the dollar!’

I didn’t realize AOP was female.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (jbnUc)

101 I just wish the northeast coast and the west coast weren't just that. Virtually impossible to peacefully split the country. We will continue our slow boil whereas I'd like to start fresh.

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (EYmYM)

102 93 Are there Alberta hotties? I don't know. That should be a consideration.
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If they can drive a tractor my guess is they would be hot.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (jFCkp)

103 1/2

At GP: “White House Savages Biden, Obama and Clinton with New Major Events Timeline”

Hey, I stipulate we all despise Biden, Obama, Clinton (BOC,) and rightly so! But they are ancient history. We aren’t running against BOC anymore!

I think this next election is going to be about kitchen-table stuff, like ‘How can we afford a place to live? How can we afford to buy frickin insurance? How are we going to afford a new car?”

I’m guessing you guys mostly have middle-class and upper-middle-class net worths. You mostly escaped the worst of the cities. I’m down here on the bottom now (and it’s my fault alone, which I fully and freely admit.) From down here, I can tell you that people are hurting. I’m having trouble keeping my head above water. I’m seeing more homeless and bums and panhandlers than I’ve EVER seen before.

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (7imtn)

104 2/2

Our official government inflation numbers are shit, and always have been shit. We reflexively choose to believe them when Republicans have all the power, like now, but they are still pure horseshit. Cost of living is still going up!

I suck at predictions, but I say now that if we keep running against ancient history like BOC, we are going to lose Congress in the midterms. YMMV. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (7imtn)

105 Separatism in Alberta will never happen, she doesn't have the power. They can pretend this is Texas all they want. I didn’t leave Florida, just to have it follow me here.

This bullshit is giving life to a dangerous political idea that will take decades to get rid of. Do NOT get complacent about the threat posed by separatism.

Why can’t they just find a ghost town and start there own society then they are happy and where happy

This is such a non-issue.;Alberta isn't separating and people that are going to protests of any kind regarding this 'issue' really need to get a life

It’s too late to ignore separatism, now is the time to start pushing back. Honestly at this point I’m convinced that you and anyone else dismissing it are actually pro-separatist trolls.

Seen the separatist garbage being propagated in X several days ago. Will be interested to see how many will go to the upcoming protest.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (ycI94)

106 I read somewhere that Indiana has expressed interest in absorbing Illinois counties if they vote to leave the People's Republic of Chicago.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (CwhoI)

107 This is a good thing to watch for but let's not start putting together floor plans for an embassy in Edmonton just yet.

*points irate finger at the AOSHQ style guide*
Posted by: Archimedes at October 24, 2025 11:31 AM

He's with us in spirit.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (Wnv9h)

108 CA succeeding? I think Lincoln settled how to handle that issue. If CA left, then the Dems would lose whatever political power they got in DC. They don't want to give that up.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (w3u3d)

109 >>>>84 The problem with states seceding is that most of them wouldn't want to secede as states; it's mostly just their urban areas. Think Chicago, NYC, and LA/SF. IOW, we'd end up with city states surrounded by a hostile continent.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Isn't that what we already have?

Posted by: Cosda at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (IE51V)

110 Declaring an end to an uneventful hurricane season a few weeks ago, prematurely, and we may yet have Melissa make fools of us all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (vwL3N)

You had to use THAT name.....

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

111 I have a friend who is all for independence but against making them a state. Given the fact that they've all gotten hooked on government health care, they'd turn out to be Democrats after all.

Posted by: Eeyore (Is, Eum) at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (s0JqF)

112
Think Chicago, NYC, and LA/SF. IOW, we'd end up with city states surrounded by a hostile continent.
Posted by: Archimedes

Did not John Carpenter's "Escape from New York" and "Escape from L.A." teach us anything?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (xG4kz)

113 93 Are there Alberta hotties? I don't know. That should be a consideration.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (i24o9)

Alberta and Canada are full of hotties.

I remember when Cheryl Bernard was the skip for the 2010 Olympic Curling team for Team Canada. From Grand Prairie, AB.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (vwL3N)

114 Ha! What a hoot. Oh Canada. Oh Canada.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (g8Ew8)

115 Of course, the funny part of all that is the South could have won its independence if it just stopped trying to invade the North, and let the whole thing just simmer.
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They invaded Maryland the captured state.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (jFCkp)

116 110 Declaring an end to an uneventful hurricane season a few weeks ago, prematurely, and we may yet have Melissa make fools of us all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:30 AM (vwL3N)

You had to use THAT name.....
Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

We did. What of it?

Posted by: Mercyful Fate at October 24, 2025 11:35 AM (vwL3N)

117 Don't know about Alberta, but saw a picture once that clearly indicated that not everything is flat in Saskatchewan.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:32 AM (2WIwB)

Other than bigfoots?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:35 AM (i24o9)

118 Only problem with letting part of CA secede would them immediately allowing China to take them over.’
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Hard to decide if it is already captured by China or the drug cartels. . .
Posted by: Hannah Dustin, colonial badazz at October 24, 2025 11:28 AM (GbwPZ)

Seriously, would rule by Chi Nah really be worse?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:35 AM (dGCAG)

119 Morning! Buy stock in flag makers. That extra star is going to look good.

There is absolutely no way that the Communist/Demonic Party will allow Alberta to join without PR and DC adding their two stars (and 4 Communist/Demonic Senators and 4 Communist/Demonic Reps) too.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 24, 2025 11:36 AM (9Hs2w)

120 We did. What of it?
Posted by: Mercyful Fate at October 24, 2025 11:35 AM (vwL3N)

I've had more than my share of Hurricane Melissa already, thankyouverymuch.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:36 AM (dGCAG)

121 I remember when Cheryl Bernard was the skip for the 2010 Olympic Curling team for Team Canada. From Grand Prairie, AB.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:34 AM (vwL3N)

Kind of milfy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:36 AM (i24o9)

122 So, you have multiple provinces, which are filled with your ethnic counterparts, who wish to secede from their current country and possibly join yours.

Let me give you a few pointers...

Posted by: Vlad Putin at October 24, 2025 11:36 AM (GjEvj)

123 106
‘ I read somewhere that Indiana has expressed interest in absorbing Illinois counties if they vote to leave the People's Republic of Chicago.’

I believe the Illinois legislature has to agree to it. So it will never happen.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:36 AM (jbnUc)

124 Hey, I stipulate we all despise Biden, Obama, Clinton (BOC,) and rightly so! But they are ancient history. We aren’t running against BOC anymore!

To an extent I agree, but the last 4 years (really since 200

were different in kind that transcended mere politics. The Dems actually tried to conduct a coup, burn the Constitution, and defy the will of the American people. That CAN'T be ignored. It must be brought to the fore so it never happens again.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 24, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)

125 Posted by: Lizzy at October 24, 2025 11:31 AM (GbwPZ)

Once red states are free of blue states and blue influenced fed government you would see a shift in the cities politics based on more conservative state legislation that would cause the lefty population to relocate to the blue states. IMO.

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:37 AM (EYmYM)

126 We should recognize an independent Quebec as well. Also, the Basque and Catalan movements.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:37 AM (jc0TO)

127 Are the purported break-away providences in Canada going to eschew their socialism? That's been a fixture in the country for decades. To the degree it's embraced by Alberta and Saskatchewan is debatable, but it would be interesting to find out their stance on this going forward.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 24, 2025 11:37 AM (Q4IgG)

128 I would say, given Gavin Newsom's bootlicking when the Chinese leader last visited, California is already bought and paid for.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2025 11:37 AM (CwhoI)

129
Why can’t they just find a ghost town and start there own society then they are happy and where happy

Because assholes like you would not be content to leave them alone to live peacefully and happily. You have got to be the most obtuse people on the planet.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 24, 2025 11:37 AM (xG4kz)

130 I hope this AB secession movement succeeds, and I wish them well...

however I watched what the commie canuki govt. did to the protesting truckers in real time...

I would not put it past the Canadian govt to hire foreign troops to come in and put down what they consider a rebellion.

Posted by: kallisto at October 24, 2025 11:38 AM (dCxaZ)

131 Seriously, would rule by Chi Nah really be worse?
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The almost non-existent dissenters would be rounded up, sure. But the streets would be clean, the druggies disappeared, car thieves would provide lucrative organ donations, graffiti removed, etc.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 11:38 AM (Dv3i1)

132 104 2/2

Our official government inflation numbers are shit, and always have been shit. We reflexively choose to believe them when Republicans have all the power, like now, but they are still pure horseshit. Cost of living is still going up!

I suck at predictions, but I say now that if we keep running against ancient history like BOC, we are going to lose Congress in the midterms. YMMV. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:33 AM (7imtn)

But are they?

Energy costs ARE going down, and that effects many things. It takes awhile to wring inflation out but the fact that energy costs are in decline and the fact that we are churning out energy again for the world to buy tells me that things are in fact moving in the right direction.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:38 AM (vwL3N)

133 Well it's not Greenland, but it'll do for now.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 24, 2025 11:39 AM (M0V4/)

134 No! No! a thousand times No!
If these provinces became states they'd send California-like clones to Congress.
If they want to be part of the USA, let them be non-voting territories.

Posted by: Tom Locker at October 24, 2025 11:39 AM (JnxQr)

135 How many divisions does Alberta have?

Posted by: Don Black at October 24, 2025 11:40 AM (AOsQT)

136 Posted by: Tom Locker at October 24, 2025 11:39 AM (JnxQr)

Puerto Rico of the North

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:40 AM (EYmYM)

137 123 106
‘ I read somewhere that Indiana has expressed interest in absorbing Illinois counties if they vote to leave the People's Republic of Chicago.’

I believe the Illinois legislature has to agree to it. So it will never happen.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:36 AM (jbnUc)

Congress would have to sign off on any changes to state lines. (Although TX can divide itself into five states by an act of the State Legislature.)

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:41 AM (vwL3N)

138 I forgot about an independent Greenland. I bet that if we promise to triple their pork ration we can ease them toward independence.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:41 AM (jc0TO)

139 Will any of the other provinces join? Kind of rough for a landlocked nation to participate in international trade without the goodwill of its neighbors.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 24, 2025 11:41 AM (9bTw3)

140 >>>I would not put it past the Canadian govt to hire foreign troops to come in and put down what they consider a rebellion.

I'm not sure Hesse is the place for mercs these days.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 24, 2025 11:41 AM (CwhoI)

141 Quebec would probably declare independence as well if Alberta does

Posted by: Josephistan at October 24, 2025 11:42 AM (y9ksN)

142 Posted by: tankdemon at October 24, 2025 11:41 AM (9bTw3)

All trade goes through us.

Posted by: the way I see it at October 24, 2025 11:43 AM (EYmYM)

143 A little maple leaf lebensraum?

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 11:43 AM (wVcYX)

144 The Inuit are 90% of the population of Greenland. Why are they ruled by Danes?

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:43 AM (jc0TO)

145 144
‘ The Inuit are 90% of the population of Greenland. Why are they ruled by Danes?’

Danish welfare benefits.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:44 AM (jbnUc)

146 What of North Oregon?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM (UoKhB)

147
OUT: AOP (Alberta Oil Peon).
IN: AOP (America Oil Peon).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM (IZfNY)

148 "Energy costs ARE going down"

Energy is a tiny part of my budget. The biggies are insurance, healthcare, housing, food. The government sez those went up about 25% total during the COVID debacle. I've looked at my 2018 budget. Those things, in fact, more than doubled in price since then!

If you truly aren't feeling this rise in CoL, I'm really glad for you!

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM (7imtn)

149 https://tinyurl.com/2nj63wdx

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 24, 2025 11:46 AM (M0V4/)

150 Danish welfare benefits.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:44 AM

Their population is under 60K. We could afford to put them all on the dole for the strategic positioning.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:46 AM (jc0TO)

151 OUT: AOP (Alberta Oil Peon).
IN: AOP (America Oil Peon).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM (IZfNY)

lol

One of us. One of us.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:46 AM (i24o9)

152 How many longships do the Danes have?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 24, 2025 11:46 AM (UoKhB)

153 I recognize an independent Alberta State !

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2025 11:47 AM (g47mK)

154 OUT: AOP (Alberta Oil Peon).
IN: AOP (America Oil Peon).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe

I might think "Alberta Original Patriot" sounds better, but what do I know...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 24, 2025 11:47 AM (OUMaO)

155 "Energy costs ARE going down"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Oh stop it! You're killing us here!

Posted by: Washington State Democrats at October 24, 2025 11:47 AM (2WIwB)

156 ‘ The Inuit are 90% of the population of Greenland. Why are they ruled by Danes?’

Danish welfare benefits.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:44 AM (jbnUc)

Veni. Vidi. Vici.

Posted by: Eric the Red at October 24, 2025 11:47 AM (wVcYX)

157
Gotta hand it to Li'l Fidel -- he messed up Canada, dumped his wife and kids and now is out on yachts motorboating Katy Perry.

Boy made something of his bad self and it rhymes with "grass".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 24, 2025 11:48 AM (xG4kz)

158 Is there apipeline south of Alberta?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 24, 2025 11:48 AM (UoKhB)

159 I recognize a independent Quebec State ! Viva le Québec !

Posted by: runner at October 24, 2025 11:48 AM (g47mK)

160 Alberta Oil Peon := Alberta Oil Poobah!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:16 AM (EXyHK)

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Really Enjoyed meeting, chatting, and hanging out with you last Weekend, SPB!

AND PISSED I NEVER FOUND THE TELESCOPE FRIDAY NIGHT SO I COULD SEE SATURN & ITS RINGS UP CLOSE AGAIN (WAS FORTUNATE TO DO SO BACK IN '02 ON AN EARLY DATE WITH THE FUTURE WIFEY).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 11:48 AM (IZfNY)

161
148 "Energy costs ARE going down"

Energy is a tiny part of my budget. The biggies are insurance, healthcare, housing, food. The government sez those went up about 25% total during the COVID debacle. I've looked at my 2018 budget. Those things, in fact, more than doubled in price since then!

If you truly aren't feeling this rise in CoL, I'm really glad for you!
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM

Think about it. When energy costs go down, most everything else goes down.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2025 11:49 AM (g8Ew8)

162 128 I would say, given Gavin Newsom's bootlicking when the Chinese leader last visited, California is already bought and paid for.
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That would explain San Francisco's Cos Playing 19th Century Shang Hai, wouldn't it? The ChiCom win would be the physical cleaning up of the city. Sidewalk Shitters hardest hit.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:49 AM (jFCkp)

163 The left really is comprised of theater kids. The best part is when the narrator says "In the US, a hybrid republican and democratic system, the people can express their discontent with their votes". Yes. Yes they can. Your point?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tt3Znms6ons?feature=share

Posted by: Archimedes at October 24, 2025 11:50 AM (Riz8t)

164 Alberta Represent about 1/5 of the GDP and the lionshare of petroleum and NG production, they are also one of the main areas for food production, the rest of Canada needs Alberta, Alberta can do without the rest of Canada.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (XV/Pl)

165 Free the nine members of the Asian Dawn movement.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (jc0TO)

166 The trailer in the top picture was parked in a field just north of the Coutts/Sweetgrass border crossing back in April. I don't know if it is still there. Ask me on Monday.

While i am personally in favor of Alberta independence (or annexation by the USA), I really don't think this is going anywhere fast. Independence candidates faired very poorly in both the recent Federal and Provincial by-elections in my area. There is a strong sense that voting for the Independence candidate might allow a Liberal or a Dipper to run up the middle and win.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (8zz6B)

167 We should annex Alberta! They would be a welcome new state - conservative with an economy that would help the rest of the states immensely.

Posted by: Diabeetus at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (SlrUo)

168 I recognize a independent Quebec State ! Viva le Québec !
Posted by: runner at October 24, 2025 11:48 AM (g47mK)

So will France and promptly send a Division armed with Pluton missiles and a couple of regiments of muzzie heavy troops. Oh, and a bunch of teachers to teach them how to properly speak French.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (2WIwB)

169 The fun part of those provinces joining with us would be the cutting off the crown and royal signs from government buildings and national parks.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (uQesX)

170 The Inuit are 90% of the population of Greenland. Why are they ruled by Danes?
Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:43 AM (jc0TO)

Dunno, but it prolly has something to do with Danegeld.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (dGCAG)

171 162
‘ The ChiCom win would be the physical cleaning up of the city. Sidewalk Shitters hardest hit.’

Maybe SF should start licking India’s boots instead.
They don’t have a problem with that.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (jbnUc)

172 48 If Alberta and Saskatchewan secede, does it become likely that a secessionist movement surfaces in CA, OR, and WA?
Posted by: Kevin Cutts at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (xKHIr)

I wouldn't want to lose the west coast ports. Who knows what kind of exorbitant transfer fee taxes an independent California would place on goods from the Pacific heading into the US. Hawaiian products would become de facto imports.

Posted by: tankdemon at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (9bTw3)

173 "When energy costs go down, most everything else goes down."

From a theoretical economic standpoint, absolutely yes.

From the standpoint of a guy who's seeing prices still going up, no.

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (7imtn)

174 The Israeli annexation of Judea and Samaria has somehow gotten in the conversation mix with Alberta independence. Strange place, this is.

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (PCK5/)

175
Is there apipeline south of Alberta?
Posted by: Boss Moss

https://tinyurl.com/CanadianPipelines

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (xG4kz)

176 So will France and promptly send a Division armed with Pluton missiles and a couple of regiments of muzzie heavy troops. Oh, and a bunch of teachers to teach them how to properly speak French.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (2WIwB)

The French ridicule the Quebecois. I'd doubt they'd do anything.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (uQesX)

177 We should annex Alberta! They would be a welcome new state - conservative with an economy that would help the rest of the states immensely.
Posted by: Diabeetus at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (SlrUo)

I have often thought that Alaska, British Columbia and most of Washington State would make a great country.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (2WIwB)

178 144 The Inuit are 90% of the population of Greenland. Why are they ruled by Danes?
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Butter Cookies and Blue Tooth.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (jFCkp)

179 That would be pretty damn cool. Ottawa needs it broken off in their ass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 24, 2025 11:53 AM (snZF9)

180 The French ridicule the Quebecois. I'd doubt they'd do anything.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (uQesX)

True, but have they ever stopped poking the Brits?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:53 AM (2WIwB)

181 , “Canada’s strange political experiment is showing signs of collapse. The ruling class in Ottawa derides the very existence of their country — obsessed with ‘stolen land’ narratives and hostile to their own national culture. Their last remaining shred of civic unity is anti-Americanism.”

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Western Suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
And you can go fuck yourselves
If you please

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 11:54 AM (IZfNY)

182 176 So will France and promptly send a Division armed with Pluton missiles and a couple of regiments of muzzie heavy troops. Oh, and a bunch of teachers to teach them how to properly speak French.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (2WIwB)
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Can their aircraft carrier make it up the St. Lawrence Seaway?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:54 AM (jFCkp)

183 Newfoundland will get fucked in a successful Canadian breakup.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:54 AM (jc0TO)

184 179
‘ That would be pretty damn cool. Ottawa needs it broken off in their ass.’

That is almost the best part of the idea.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

185 Shania Twain from Alberta?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (hirWM)

186 Energy is a tiny part of my budget. The biggies are insurance, healthcare, housing, food. The government sez those went up about 25% total during the COVID debacle. I've looked at my 2018 budget. Those things, in fact, more than doubled in price since then!

If you truly aren't feeling this rise in CoL, I'm really glad for you!
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM (7imtn)

Good to see you do not understand how energy effects things. Let me break it down for you.

That food you buy? God doesn't miracle that into the store. It has to be shipped from farms, produced, packaged, sent off to warehouses controlled by vendors, and shipped to you. All of which requires energy. It's good to know you have health for which to care, but I don't, so I have to get medical care. Nothing can happen in medical care without energy. My medicines cannot reach my pharmacy, and me, without being shipped there using energy. The things used on your home cannot get there without energy. This ALL impacts insurance to a great degree.

You don't understand multipliers in economics and absolutely do not understand logistics and how that effects you and the cost of everything you buy. (1)

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (vwL3N)

187 Alberta will never be independent. When Quebec flirted with that in a half-assed fashion years ago, the House of Commons drew up what they call "The Clarity Law." That law serves the opposite purpose of clarity.

In the law, for a country to legally leave, the people of that Province must show "clear intentions" in the vote. AND, the move must represent the "clear will of the people of that province."

Those are two very vague requirements that will be challenged in Ottawa and by every other province (except Saskatchewan) and suits will be filed moving clarification to the Crown courts (who are in the pocket of the Labor Party). If Alberta leaves, the "equalization" payments to lesser productive Provinces get sufficiently less. They can't allow it. And, they won't.

Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (dIske)

188 183
‘ Newfoundland will get fucked in a successful Canadian breakup.’

North Maine.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 24, 2025 11:56 AM (jbnUc)

189 From the standpoint of a guy who's seeing prices still going up, no.
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:52 AM (7imtn)

We still have the freedom of movement.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2025 11:56 AM (g8Ew8)

190 Really Enjoyed meeting, chatting, and hanging out with you last Weekend, SPB!

Ditto. And I’m sad to say the telescope will probably not be making a re-appearance. It was a real pain to transport, and another pain to re-align after the trip while everyone else was hanging out! (I never did get the 3mm lens or the barlow lens working.)

I’m glad I did it, and it was fun once I got it working, but probably not worth the trouble all-in-all.

I do need to check when Saturn is both close to us and showing its rings on a slant, though.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:56 AM (EXyHK)

191 171 162
‘ The ChiCom win would be the physical cleaning up of the city. Sidewalk Shitters hardest hit.’

Maybe SF should start licking India’s boots instead.
They don’t have a problem with that.
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This is true.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 11:56 AM (jFCkp)

192 Those are two very vague requirements that will be challenged in Ottawa and by every other province (except Saskatchewan) and suits will be filed moving clarification to the Crown courts (who are in the pocket of the Labor Party). If Alberta leaves, the "equalization" payments to lesser productive Provinces get sufficiently less. They can't allow it. And, they won't.
Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM

You own what you can defend. Can Ottawa force the issue?

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:57 AM (jc0TO)

193 Will Alberta still be part of the Commonwealth?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2025 11:57 AM (GUnoj)

194 If Alberta leaves, the "equalization" payments to lesser productive Provinces get sufficiently less. They can't allow it. And, they won't.
Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (dIske)

This is when you have to start shelling a fort.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:58 AM (dGCAG)

195 I think the point was made in the post that Alberta is merely a cash cow for the elites in the Canadian ruling class. Peasants, in other words. They will never be allowed to leave.

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 11:58 AM (PCK5/)

196 Think about it. When energy costs go down, most everything else goes down.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 24, 2025 11:49 AM (g8Ew

Please inform Mrs. Coolidge of that fact.

Posted by: Silent Cal at October 24, 2025 11:58 AM (wVcYX)

197 Energy is a tiny part of my budget. The biggies are insurance, healthcare, housing, food. The government sez those went up about 25% total during the COVID debacle. I've looked at my 2018 budget. Those things, in fact, more than doubled in price since then!

If you truly aren't feeling this rise in CoL, I'm really glad for you!
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM (7imtn)

(2) When energy costs go down, suddenly grocery stores, whose margins are extremely thin, can afford to charge less. Medical care can cost less if the hospitals and clinics pay less for energy bills they will pass on to you. The things you need for your home will cost less to ship. I had to repair toilets recently and the things I needed were not teleported into my bathroom. They had to be shipped someplace and I had to drive someplace and buy them. Insurance investments improve when their investments aren't spending so much on energy.

You say energy is a small part of your budget. Hate to break it to you, it is bigger than you know.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:58 AM (vwL3N)

198 65 Trump supports independence for Alberta but is denying sovereignty for Judea and Samaria.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2025 11:24 AM (QGLzn)

That's the Two State solution, which most everyone agrees is dead. What Trump opposed is Israel annexing Judea and Samaria, and honestly Bibi opposes it too. That would cause far more trouble for Israel than it would solve, and it was Bibi's enemies in the Knesset who brought it to a vote a couple days ago, just to cause trouble for the Government.

No one knows what to do with the Palestinians, that's the heart of the entire problem. They're poison for any country they're allowed to be part of, including Israel; they're even worse poison if they're allowed to have an independent country of their own. They can't be sent anywhere, because there isn't a single country in the world insane enough to allow 1.8 million violent jihadis with no skills except whining about how mean everyone is to them, into their country.

Personally, I'd send them all to Ireland, just because the Irish deserve it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2025 11:58 AM (uWKK8)

199 "You don't understand multipliers in economics and absolutely do not understand logistics and how that effects you and the cost of everything you buy."

Actually, I do understand those things.

So when do I see price increases here on the ground (insurance, transpo, healthcare, housing, food) start to subside?

It hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:59 AM (7imtn)

200 Alberta would make a good 51st state,

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2025 11:59 AM (MUJd1)

201 I do need to check when Saturn is both close to us and showing its rings on a slant, though.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:56 AM (EXyHK)

Aren't Saturn's rings edge on now?

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:59 AM (vwL3N)

202 If Trump recognizes them as a nation, does California try to pull the same stunt?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 24, 2025 12:00 PM (OA79/)

203 From the standpoint of a guy who's seeing prices still going up, no.

Being on my own, I don’t go shopping very often, so perhaps I see a more longer-term trend. But it certainly seems like prices are dropping on the kinds of things I buy regularly—milk, eggs, fruit, vegetables; or at least holding steady—mostly the various nuts I keep on hand, walnuts, pecans, macadamias, pistachios, the latter two of which have always been expensive.

Grapes were down to $0.97 a pound yesterday. Even as a sale price, that’s very good. I used to be happy when they dropped to $1.99 a pound.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 12:00 PM (EXyHK)

204 You don't understand multipliers in economics and absolutely do not understand logistics and how that effects you and the cost of everything you buy. (1)

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM

You are correct, energy prices affect the final price of everything we buy and energy prices are coming down. Gas was $2.12 at sams in sherman TX this morning. I haven't seen prices that low since covid shut everything down. All it took was having an energy friendly president in the white house for 8 months.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 24, 2025 12:01 PM (0N4FZ)

205 That being said, sure. Let's take Alberta, and BC. We'll give them Maine and New Hamster, and Green Mountain.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (dGCAG)

You want Saskatchewan, for sure. At least as conservative as Alberta, and resource-rich, and thinly populated. You do not want the Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island portions of B.C. Moonbat central. And you want Yukon, to make Alaska contiguous.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:01 PM (8zz6B)

206
[Alberta has every hallmark of an exploited colony.

Our wealth flows to a distant capital that bleeds us dry, offers nothing in return, and holds us back from achieving our true potential.

Alberta builds. Ottawa takes.

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You can also replace Alberta with America and Ottawa with The Swamp in that declaration.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 12:01 PM (IZfNY)

207 Canada, I was told, is not a melting pot. It is a salad bowl.

No unity.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at October 24, 2025 12:01 PM (W7XSX)

208 Aren't Saturn's rings edge on now?

Yup. Perfectly thin and straight on. By “on a slant” I mean, partly facing us so that we can see the different parts of the ring.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (EXyHK)

209 202 If Trump recognizes them as a nation, does California try to pull the same stunt?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 24, 2025 12:00 PM (OA79/)

For States, the US settled the matter of secession in 1865.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK8)

210 "You say energy is a small part of your budget. Hate to break it to you, it is bigger than you know."

Fine, I understand that! I am a petroleum energy investor, for cripes sake. And I've taken all the economics courses you have.

So when does the true rate of price inflation, as measured in our household expenses, start to drop? It hasn't yet.

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (7imtn)

211 Shania Twain from Alberta?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (hirWM)

***

Ontario I believe

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (Bo9Yf)

212 Manitoba gets no love here, seems like.

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (PCK5/)

213 202 If Trump recognizes them as a nation, does California try to pull the same stunt?
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Cutting up CA in digestible bits is way overdue.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (jFCkp)

214 Free the nine members of the Asian Dawn movement.
Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 11:51 AM (jc0TO)

I get that reference. +1

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (wVcYX)

215 Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 11:45 AM

I very much enjoyed meeting and talking with you and your wife at the TxMoMe as well!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (0sNs1)

216 Gentlemans and Ladies!

We are most definitely not kidding we need Boat Captains! Seriously. Big Money. Start Now. No Experience Needed!!

Posted by: Venezuelan Freelance Pharmaceutical Distributors at October 24, 2025 12:03 PM (PiwSw)

217 Tell those hosers to take off!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 24, 2025 12:03 PM (63Dwl)

218 If Trump recognizes them as a nation, does California try to pull the same stunt?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

We couldn't get that lucky.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 24, 2025 12:03 PM (UjDHi)

219 Here's a link to a white paper - opinion of what secession would look like with our northern neighbor(s). Ok reading. https://tinyurl.com/5yzyyerk

Thanks for the write up, Buck.

Posted by: scampydog at October 24, 2025 12:03 PM (2bFN5)

220 I’m glad I did it, and it was fun once I got it working, but probably not worth the trouble all-in-all.

I do need to check when Saturn is both close to us and showing its rings on a slant, though.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 11:56 AM (EXyHK)
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Now I'm doubly glad I went! Seeing Saturn like that was incredible. A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 24, 2025 12:03 PM (RnixX)

221 For States, the US settled the matter of secession in 1865.
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Meh. If the South seceded would the Yankees go home?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:04 PM (jFCkp)

222 Look, I stipulate that I suck at predictions, OK? Maybe the fact that *I* foresee a kitchen-table midterm election is actually GOOD news for us, because it certainly won't go the way I predict.

I said what I had to say. YMMV of course

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 12:05 PM (7imtn)

223 Actually, I do understand those things.

So when do I see price increases here on the ground (insurance, transpo, healthcare, housing, food) start to subside?

It hasn't happened yet.
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:59 AM (7imtn)

If you did understand how energy effects things you wouldn't have said "energy is a tiny part of my budget."

Again, it takes time to wrench inflation out. The inflation of the 1970s did not end on 21 January 1981, did it? It took time to flush it out of the system.

You should never complain about spending on health care. I wish I could spend money on health care. I can't, for I have no health for which to care. I am stuck paying for medical care.

Gas prices at the pump fell to as low as $2.19 last week where I am. They went back up - bastards - but it is coming right back down again as oil costs plummet for the winter.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:05 PM (vwL3N)

224
Meh. If the South seceded would the Yankees go home?
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:04 PM (jFCkp)

Maybe some. Perhaps most.

Speaking only for myself - you'll have to kill me. I will never, ever go back to Colorado.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM (BI5O2)

225
"93 Are there Alberta hotties? I don't know. That should be a consideration."
by: Comrade Flounder

What do you think of Evangeline Lilly and Elisha Cuthbert?
Hot or not?

Posted by: Speller at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM (pSotA)

226 You want Saskatchewan, for sure. At least as conservative as Alberta, and resource-rich, and thinly populated. You do not want the Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island portions of B.C. Moonbat central. And you want Yukon, to make Alaska contiguous.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:01 PM (8zz6B)

I'm gonna trust your assessment on this.

We're going to need a man on the inside, can we deputize you as an American agent?

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM (dGCAG)

227 In before the "Rings of Uranus" jokes start.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM (wVcYX)

228 199 Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 11:59 AM (7imtn)

Fuel costs are down by over 30 cents a gallon comrade, I don't know what to tell you.

Food costs are at the tail, one truth you cannot avoid is that price point equilibrium is severely disrupted by total subsidy as we do with EBT, Medicaid, etc etc....

unfucking the chicken that has been raped since the 30s will probably take at least 10 years.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM (MUJd1)

229 222 Look, I stipulate that I suck at predictions, OK? Maybe the fact that *I* foresee a kitchen-table midterm election is actually GOOD news for us, because it certainly won't go the way I predict.

I said what I had to say. YMMV of course
Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 12:05 PM (7imtn)

Let's hold the midterm elections. For no other reason than to double check your predictions. Just in case we are, in fact, all wrong.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM (vwL3N)

230 That being said, sure. Let's take Alberta, and BC. We'll give them Maine and New Hamster, and Green Mountain.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 11:20 AM (dGCAG)

You want Saskatchewan, for sure. At least as conservative as Alberta, and resource-rich, and thinly populated. You do not want the Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island portions of B.C. Moonbat central. And you want Yukon, to make Alaska contiguous.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Yukon & NW Territories. Make Alaska contiguous.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 24, 2025 12:07 PM (UjDHi)

231 Speaking only for myself - you'll have to kill me. I will never, ever go back to Colorado.
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I ran a fishing lodge on the Conejos river straight out of college. I loved it. That was 1979. Wonderful world then. Pre Californication Colorado.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:08 PM (jFCkp)

232 211 Shania Twain from Alberta?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (hirWM)

***

Ontario I believe
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (Bo9Yf)

From rural Ontario.

As is James LaBrie, the vocalist for DREAM THEATER

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:08 PM (vwL3N)

233 I might think "Alberta Original Patriot" sounds better, but what do I know...

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 24, 2025 11:47 AM (OUMaO)

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Love it, Brother Tim!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (IZfNY)

234 Aren't Saturn's rings edge on now?
Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 11:59 AM

Along with the entire commentariat over at Democratic Underground.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (0sNs1)

235 Canada, I was told, is not a melting pot. It is a salad bowl.

No unity.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at October 24, 2025 12:01 PM (W7XSX)

Having watched the documentary on the Expos leaving, everyone was speaking french, and they had to voiceover in English.

Except Larry Walker (who is Canadian) and Pedro Martinez.

Pedro was the clearest speaker in the whole damn show.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (dGCAG)

236 BTW...if anyone is looking to keep track of the goings on in Canada. I recommend this blog. I'm sure many of you are aware of it already.

https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/

(didn't use the tiny URL thingy because you deserve to know where you're going and it's a short URL)

That blog is run by Kate MacMillan out of Saskatchewan. It's not quite the same tone as AOS HQ, but it's about as close as you'll get from America's hat.

Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (dIske)

237 231 Speaking only for myself - you'll have to kill me. I will never, ever go back to Colorado.
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I ran a fishing lodge on the Conejos river straight out of college. I loved it. That was 1979. Wonderful world then. Pre Californication Colorado.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:08 PM (jFCkp)

Colorado, gone, never to return. The Illinois of the West.

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (PCK5/)

238 May I be the first to nominate AOP as Alberta's Energy Minister?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (yy9ow)

239 lol

One of us. One of us.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 24, 2025 11:46 AM (i24o9)

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The Foreign Patriot We Deserve!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 12:10 PM (IZfNY)

240 Broad-based energy costs are not going down, they are mixed and generally increasing. In fact consumer based energy costs are going up.

I don't know where you get the idea that energy prices are going down.

Posted by: pawn at October 24, 2025 12:10 PM (tqkKb)

241 237 231 Speaking only for myself - you'll have to kill me. I will never, ever go back to Colorado.
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I ran a fishing lodge on the Conejos river straight out of college. I loved it. That was 1979. Wonderful world then. Pre Californication Colorado.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:08 PM (jFCkp)

Colorado, gone, never to return. The Illinois of the West.
Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (PCK5/)

We'll see. I remember when Trump would lose in 2016 because no state that goes blue ever turns back...

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:10 PM (vwL3N)

242 I think the US is finding itself more and more isolated these days. IMO both Canada (as it stands today) and Mexico are hostile neighbors. Add that to the number of hostile states here and us normals are pretty much surrounded.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 24, 2025 11:23 AM (Q4IgG)
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This was always going to happen when the US started to finally act like the Soviet threat was gone. It's going to be messy as the rest of the world comes to grips with what this means. From everything I've read, Trump wants an equalized tariff scheme. But it will continue to be messy until we come out on the other side.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 24, 2025 12:10 PM (GZYu7)

243
Their last remaining shred of civic unity is anti-Americanism.

__________

I, along with a lot of others, here get on Canada's case often. I know there are quite a few Canadian Hordians here. I also believe that it's natural and good to be proud of one's country, regardless of its faults.

So it's not you C-Morons that get my goat; I know there are a lot of Canadians like you. But the Ruling Class jackasses in Canada who are united in smug anti-Americanism and our homegrown Ruling Class jackasses who use Vanada as a club to beat us normals are the ones who get us infuriated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (tgvbd)

244 Speaking only for myself - you'll have to kill me. I will never, ever go back to Colorado.
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I ran a fishing lodge on the Conejos river straight out of college. I loved it. That was 1979. Wonderful world then. Pre Californication Colorado.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 24, 2025 12:08 PM (jFCkp)

Colorado is a wonderful state. As long as you see the Denver/Boulder area as an enigma. It's East California, and if you could ship the entire poopulation back to Californica, the state would be damn near perfect.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (dGCAG)

245 Is there apipeline south of Alberta?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 24, 2025 11:48 AM (UoKhB)

several of them. Needs to be more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (8zz6B)

246 No one knows what to do with the Palestinians, that's the heart of the entire problem. They're poison for any country they're allowed to be part of, including Israel; they're even worse poison if they're allowed to have an independent country of their own. They can't be sent anywhere, because there isn't a single country in the world insane enough to allow 1.8 million violent jihadis with no skills except whining about how mean everyone is to them, into their country.

Somalia. They'll raise the IQ level.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (UjDHi)

247 In before the "Rings of Uranus" jokes start.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 12:06 PM

You mean that location where both Captain Kirk and toilet paper chase Klingons?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (0sNs1)

248 I don't know where you get the idea that energy prices are going down.
Posted by: pawn at October 24, 2025 12:10 PM (tqkKb)

Two functioning eyeballs and prices at the pump, which, by the way, truckers pay.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (vwL3N)

249 (didn't use the tiny URL thingy because you deserve to know where you're going and it's a short URL)
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Thought about Akbar, but we all know where those links go.

Posted by: scampydog at October 24, 2025 12:12 PM (2bFN5)

250 I hate it, but it always comes down to demographics, and the cruelty of math.

Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 12:12 PM (PCK5/)

251 I know there are quite a few Canadian Hordians here. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM

* raises, uh, hand *

Posted by: Peter North, proud Canadian and irregular AoSHQ commenter at October 24, 2025 12:13 PM (0sNs1)

252 From Small Dead Animals link, kindly provided by Orson, comes this news:

The Ronald Reagan Foundation has just announced that Canada has fraudulently used an advertisement, which is FAKE, featuring Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about Tariffs. The ad was for $75,000. They only did this to interfere with the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court, and other courts. TARIFFS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY, AND ECONOMY, OF THE U.S.A. Based on their egregious behavior, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADA ARE HEREBY TERMINATED. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DJT

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 12:13 PM (Dv3i1)

253 238 May I be the first to nominate AOP as Alberta's Energy Minister?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 24, 2025 12:09 PM (yy9ow)

AOP should be Premier.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:13 PM (vwL3N)

254
It's too late to invade Canada now
we'll have to wait til next summer, when our tanks can maneuver

BUT CANADA WILL BE FREE

Posted by: Don Black at October 24, 2025 12:14 PM (AOsQT)

255 No one knows what to do with the Palestinians, that's the heart of the entire problem. They're poison for any country they're allowed to be part of, including Israel; they're even worse poison if they're allowed to have an independent country of their own. They can't be sent anywhere, because there isn't a single country in the world insane enough to allow 1.8 million violent jihadis with no skills except whining about how mean everyone is to them, into their country.

Somalia. They'll raise the IQ level.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM

Of both regions.

Posted by: toby928(c) at October 24, 2025 12:15 PM (jc0TO)

256 Those are two very vague requirements that will be challenged in Ottawa and by every other province (except Saskatchewan) and suits will be filed moving clarification to the Crown courts (who are in the pocket of the Labor Party). If Alberta leaves, the "equalization" payments to lesser productive Provinces get sufficiently less. They can't allow it. And, they won't.
Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2025 11:55 AM (dIske)

They really don't have the military force to prevent it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM (8zz6B)

257 "Two functioning eyeballs and prices at the pump, which, by the way, truckers pay."

Gasoline/diesel consumption accounts for around 15-20% of the total energy consumption in the US.

Posted by: pawn at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM (tqkKb)

258 From the (St. Lawrence) Seaway to the (Hudson) Bay, please make Canada less gay!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 12:17 PM (Dv3i1)

259
They really don't have the military force to prevent it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM (8zz6B)

________

They could call on the PLA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2025 12:17 PM (tgvbd)

260 Will Alberta still be part of the Commonwealth?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2025 11:57 AM (GUnoj)

Probably not, and no great loss.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:17 PM (8zz6B)

261 NBA nood-niks

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 24, 2025 12:18 PM (Dv3i1)

262 Gasoline/diesel consumption accounts for around 15-20% of the total energy consumption in the US.
Posted by: pawn at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM

I'm good for at least 1%.

Posted by: Brian "Sex Machine" Stelter at October 24, 2025 12:18 PM (0sNs1)

263 As I understand the strategy, the key to successful acquisition of Canadian provinces lies in holding Madagascar.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 24, 2025 12:18 PM (wVcYX)

264 Gasoline/diesel consumption accounts for around 15-20% of the total energy consumption in the US.
Posted by: pawn at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM (tqkKb)

Yes.

It is also how goods get to market.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 24, 2025 12:18 PM (vwL3N)

265 I for one welcome independence for our like-minded friends in the Great White North.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at October 24, 2025 12:18 PM (6P0f1)

266 I think even if it was possible, dems would never let CA become an independent state- they'd lose all power in the USA due to loss of winner take all electoral college votes

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 24, 2025 12:19 PM (hlNLQ)

267 "If you did understand how energy effects things you wouldn't have said "energy is a tiny part of my budget."

Can't you disagree with somebody without insulting their intelligence?

Look at YOUR household budget. It has an Energy Subtotal breakout.

Does that subtotal include all the estimated secondary energy costs of all the other expenses in the budget?

OF COURSE IT DOESN'T! Stop being deliberately obtuse. Please.

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 12:19 PM (7imtn)

268 Will Alberta still be part of the Commonwealth?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 24, 2025 11:57 AM (GUnoj)

Probably not, and no great loss.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I know we talk and joke about it, but that will be truly wild to see.

Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 24, 2025 12:19 PM (UjDHi)

269 Now I'm doubly glad I went! Seeing Saturn like that was incredible. A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Pretty close. Saturn is currently at its closest to us. Its rings are tilted only two degrees, i.e., we’re seeing the razor’s edge. Apparently, they won’t be edge-on like this again until 2039.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 24, 2025 12:19 PM (EXyHK)

270
It's too late to invade Canada now
we'll have to wait til next summer, when our tanks can maneuver

BUT CANADA WILL BE FREE
Posted by: Don Black

Canaduh will never be free. Canadians are too stoopid to be free.

Albertans and Saskies on the other hand yearn to be free.
Alberta's provincial motto is Strong and Free!
We're done sharing with Canadians, who don't share our values or work ethic.
Canaduh has stolen a $Trillion from Alberta and given us nothing but hate in return.

Posted by: Speller at October 24, 2025 12:20 PM (pSotA)

271 Manitoba gets no love here, seems like.
Posted by: tubal at October 24, 2025 12:02 PM (PCK5/)

Too many of them are addicted to the welfare teat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:20 PM (8zz6B)

272 The crucial question is: How does this affect our own Alberta Oil Peon?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at October 24, 2025 12:21 PM (2Insx)

273 They really don't have the military force to prevent it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM (8zz6B)

________

They could call on the PLA.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 24, 2025 12:17 PM (tgvbd)

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Make The Cajun Navy Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bury My Heart At a Texas MoMe at October 24, 2025 12:22 PM (PxHVy)

274 267 Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 12:19 PM (7imtn)

You obviously are blessed enough to live somewhere spared from the compounding cost of energy in production and logistics costs, let me know where the assfucking democrats have levied on American energy are "miniscule" in geometric impact comrade.

Posted by: sven at October 24, 2025 12:22 PM (MUJd1)

275 Somalia. They'll raise the IQ level.
Posted by: rickb223 Acehole Extraordinaire coined by JSpicy at October 24, 2025 12:11 PM (UjDHi)

Really the best solution. They cannot make it any worse of a shithole than it already is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:25 PM (8zz6B)

276 259
They really don't have the military force to prevent it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 24, 2025 12:16 PM (8zz6B)
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There are other pressure points that could be applied. My thoughts on Ottawa's strategy (read: Carney) would be to make all kinds of long term promises benefiting Alberta so as to remove the momentum of the Secession movement just before the vote, and then never following through. But, he's not even doing that. He's doubling down on the causes Alberta dislikes.

They'll try the Courts. They'll then try negotiating a long term financial plan that requires Alberta to pay into the Federal govt. as a condition of leaving. Eventually, other provinces will stop doing business in all capacities with Alberta forcing them to find new markets. But, I think the major hindrance is Alberta's leadership isn't sold on the idea. Danielle Smith, herself, has said she is against a secession, but won't stand in the way. That's not a ringing endorsement. You want you leaders bending over backwards to make it happen.

Posted by: Orson at October 24, 2025 12:25 PM (dIske)

277 Somalia should jump at the chance to take the jihadis. The International collective is going to shovel shit tons of money on the displaced gazans

Posted by: Ben Had at October 24, 2025 12:29 PM (QGLzn)

278
Will Alberta still be part of the Commonwealth?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Will there still be a Commonwealth, or will King Chuckles the Tampon re-style it as a Caliphate?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at October 24, 2025 12:35 PM (xG4kz)

279 "You obviously are blessed enough to live somewhere spared from the compounding cost of energy in production and logistics costs, let me know where the assfucking democrats have levied on American energy are "miniscule" in geometric impact comrade."

No. I live in the real world where prices are going up.

Furthermore, my household budget, LIKE YOURS, has an Energy Subtotal that includes only my/your direct primary energy expenses, and DOES NOT include the embedded energy costs of ALL THE OTHER expenses, because I/you can't measure them, and could only estimate them at best.

You like theory. Are you a Friedmanite? Then take a look at the M1 and M2 money supply charts. How do you like them apples?

Stop being a jerk. You call me a 'comrade,' like I'm a fucking commie? FUCK YOU, sven!

Posted by: gp at October 24, 2025 12:41 PM (7imtn)

280 For those of you keeping score at home

Alberta has approx 5 million pop

Just like Alabama with its 9 electoral votes

So Red +9

Posted by: Fen at October 24, 2025 01:03 PM (ciYHQ)

281 For funsies, they should do their own "No Kings" rally as part of their separation/independence. Because Canada has a king, nudge-nudge.

Posted by: Another Anon at October 24, 2025 01:03 PM (4h45B)

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"For funsies, they should do their own "No Kings" rally as part of their separation/independence."

Chucky is the Head of State. That would be treason.

Even the U.S. didn't declare themselves a Republic until after the revolution.
Alberta can legally leave Canaduh without denouncing the King.
The question of what to do after independence comes after independence becomes a fact.
The British Commonwealth became a joke when they allowed Zimbabwe to remain a part of it.

Posted by: Speller at October 24, 2025 01:19 PM (pSotA)

283 In most recent polls about 28% of the population of Alberta poll yes for secession
Energy costs ? Over the last 20 years the avg residential cost per kwh has been about 2% increase per year.
Renewables now cost less than natural gas thermal plants. Generation costs are generally about 1/3 the cost of residential electricity.
The wholesale gasoline price here is based on the wholesale world gasoline price. If it is cheaper in one place than another bull shipping is only 5or 10 cents per gallon ost of our oil here is shipped abroad refined there and shipped back. The Saudis own the largest refinery in the USA, Trump allowed that sale in his first term. They will not convert that refinery to crack the oil we are now pumping here.

Your mileage may vary.

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at October 24, 2025 02:13 PM (FQukp)

284 I won’t hold my breath that Alberta can pull it off, but more power to them. Quebec independence … meh.

Posted by: RebeccaH at October 24, 2025 02:14 PM (VFung)

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