Until You See Pigs Flying Over Trenton And Richmond, Don't Hold Your Breath

Sometimes the conventional wisdom is correct, no matter how much we want it to be wrong. There are two governor races that are being sized up as referendums on the 2026 prospects for the Republican party, but neither race is being taken seriously by the corporate Republican hierarchy, which signals their lack of interest in the mid-term elections, and their lack of support for Donald Trump!

The Republican candidates are both flawed, but in different ways.

Virginia: Winsome Earle-Sears vs. Abigail Spanberger is an easy one. Winsome Earle-Sears is relatively new to politics, and simply does not have the relationships and contacts necessary to raise money on her own. Her earnest but ham-handed direct efforts may draw small donations, but the Democrats are throwing a huge amount of money at her trans-loving lunatic opponent! And of course corporate Republicans are flocking to Sears' campaign to sop up whatever money is available, but there is no coherent effort. They want her to lose with dignity!

New Jersey: Jack Ciattarelli vs. Mikie Sherrill is a clown-show of flawed candidates. The republican challenger is conspicuously light on political philosophy, but quite adept at judging wind direction! In 2015, he called Donald Trump a "charlatan," but by 2020 he was a Trump supporter! Of course he is pro-abortion until 20 weeks, and supports drivers licenses for wetbacks, so how he meshes with President Trump's policies is a mystery. He also failed to pursue the obvious failings in the 2021 NJ governor's election, preferring to lose with dignity, mostly to preserve his options to run again!

Sadly, he is running against an awful candidate who is implicated in three different issues that should have sunk her campaign. She was implicated in a cheating scandal at the Naval Academy, she scammed her two teenage children into nominations for the naval academy class of 2029, and she claims ignorance about the now-typical stock grift of congressmen that supposedly netted her $7,000,000. Whether that is true is secondary to her evasions about it and the other issues.

But hope springs eternal!

Hope in Virginia and New Jersey: Republicans Could Actually WIN This Thing!

Conventional wisdom has the GOP dead in the water in Virginia and New Jersey — the only two states that’ll be electing new governors in Nov. 2025. This highly focused spotlight gives the Commonwealth of Virginia and/or New York Junior an outsized role in determining long-term political mojo: The winning party owns the opening momentum in next year’s midterms.
And conventional wisdom has the Republican Party in a world of hurt.
New Jersey, after all, is a Democratic stronghold. Hasn’t gone Republican in a presidential race since 1988. Out of their 12 congressmen, only 3 are Republicans.
Meanwhile, from 1952 through 2004, Virginia went red in every presidential election, sans ’64. But since 2008, they’ve gone blue every single time — and often by lopsided margins. The three times Trump was on the Virginia ballot, he never got within five points of his Democratic opponent. (His worst defeat was in 2020, where he lost to Biden by over 10 points.)

The optimism is marvelous, but almost entirely without concrete successes on the ground where it counts. Is there a significant Republican GOTV effort in Virginia? No. Is there a significant upsurge in Winsome Earle-Sears' fundraising? No. Although to be fair, I did get about 17 increasingly frantic text messages since I sent her some money!

And in New Jersey? Sure...Sherrill has been rocked back by the allegations, but she has a compliant media backing her, and as is their wont, the Democrats are circling the wagons to protect her. Is there a significant GOTV effort funded by the Republican party? Hah! I have not gotten a single in-state communication about the governor's race or, for that matter, any NJ race!

These two races expose the weakness of the Republican party as a counter to the Democrat party's fantastic legal and illegal efforts. Think about the disarray of the Democrats this year, and imagine how these two sates would be fairing with a well-organized state Republican party and solid, well-organized support from the national party.

But the real question as we begin to look at a post-Trump political landscape is whether the Republican party can energize the base without the incredible draw of Donald Trump? Converting his popularity into meaningful, long-term electoral changes requires more than what the Republican party is doing today.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 I'll fetch em

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 12:01 PM (+qU29)

2 I have hope. And faith. And a bit of charity, too.

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 12:03 PM (jgmnb)

3 I think the GOP can win those elections.

Neither Republican is perfect, but they are waaayy better than the Dem candidates.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 05, 2025 12:03 PM (vK/Ja)

4 Well the Marxists are throwing crap onto the wall to see what sticks, who can say what's going to happen.?

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 12:08 PM (+qU29)

5 People need to wake up to the woke.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 05, 2025 12:08 PM (OT+cA)

6 What is the status of the Dem voter fraud machine in the two states? Will the Confederate dead rise to vote in Virginia? Will Wise Guys be making New Jerseyians in line to vote offers they can't refuse?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at October 05, 2025 12:08 PM (TVOOe)

7
It's not the sheer awfulness of the Dem candidate that makes the difference, it's the attraction of the R candidate and the message. Trump had that and beat Hillary despite most of the GOP wanting him ground up for dog meat. Neither of these gubernatorial candidates has anything like it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2025 12:09 PM (tgvbd)

8 So Jack Ciattarelli is NJ's Greg Abbott?

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 12:09 PM (bPFPB)

9 I think Scott Presler is working to get out the vote in NJ.. He did a great job in PA to get that State in 2024

Posted by: It's me donna at October 05, 2025 12:10 PM (VE6XX)

10 I'm still hoping for miracles in both of those races

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 05, 2025 12:10 PM (rbKZ6)

11 Neither of these gubernatorial candidates has anything like it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2025 12:09 PM (tgvbd)

Yes. It is not enough to get people to vote AGAINST the other candidate. They need a reason to vote FOR you.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 12:10 PM (bPFPB)

12 So Jack Ciattarelli is NJ's Greg Abbott?
Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 12:09 PM (bPFPB)

I'm thinking he's like Maryland's Gov. Hogan. But, YMMV.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at October 05, 2025 12:11 PM (/HDaX)

13 Converting his popularity into meaningful, long-term electoral changes requires more than what the Republican party is doing today.

Narrator: They don't want to.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 05, 2025 12:12 PM (uQesX)

14 7
It's not the sheer awfulness of the Dem candidate that makes the difference, it's the attraction of the R candidate and the message. Trump had that and beat Hillary despite most of the GOP wanting him ground up for dog meat. Neither of these gubernatorial candidates has anything like it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2025 12:09 PM (tgvbd)

No GOP candidate has anything like Trump's pull. So, if that's the metric, get ready for defeat.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 05, 2025 12:12 PM (4WSjN)

15 A hope in Virginia is that the recent news about Jay Jones shakes both races up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 12:12 PM (+htsy)

16 9 I think Scott Presler is working to get out the vote in NJ.. He did a great job in PA to get that State in 2024
Posted by: It's me donna at October 05, 2025 12:10 PM (VE6XX
A regular honey badger.

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 12:12 PM (jgmnb)

17 Sadly I think the GOP loses both these races. Maybe a better chance in VA where the incumbent is a republican after all… as much as I admire Earle-Sears as an individual she doesn’t seem like a dynamite candidate.

We are all extremely spoiled I can tell you by Trump who is a true political unicorn; he’s one of a kind never to be duplicated and future elections without him will be challenging. Even if you love Vance (and I do) he’s no Trump. I didn’t even mention cheating but you know that’s gonna happen in both states (especially NJ) which is an even steeper hill to climb for the GOP candidates…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 12:13 PM (lepZb)

18 Trusting 'Republicans' to 'do the right thing' is equally as bad as trusting Communists to do anything - but more foolish, 'cos they want us to think they're trustworthy … nuh-unh, Herbie …

Posted by: Dr_No at October 05, 2025 12:15 PM (ayRl+)

19 For a *republican* to win in new jersey they have to be like Krispie Kreme was, a very squishy faux conservative.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 05, 2025 12:17 PM (0N4FZ)

20 Oh! Since no one claimed it already: FIRST!

Posted by: Dr_No at October 05, 2025 12:17 PM (ayRl+)

21 I'm so old I remember when we had Election Day and not Voting Season.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at October 05, 2025 12:18 PM (XQo4F)

22 We live in an age where very few know how to do effective retail politics anymore; and the existing Dem machine is still far more effective that the Republican one, which consists mainly of grifting consultants speaking to enrich themselves.

It’s a big reason I like Ken Paxton, even though he is universally reviled by the Consultant Class. He understands retail politics in a way few do anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 12:19 PM (+htsy)

23 Da fuq?

Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 05, 2025 12:20 PM (L/fGl)

24 Abigail would like to speak to your manager.

Posted by: She's AWFL at October 05, 2025 12:21 PM (XQo4F)

25 23 Da fuq?

Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 05, 2025 12:20 PM (L/fGl).

Doesn't surprise me at all...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 05, 2025 12:21 PM (VE6XX)

26 On the optimistic side, it looks like Reform pretty much swept local elections all over England* yesterday.

* autocomplete refuses to suggest that even after I've typed "Englan." Weird, huh?

Posted by: Oddbob at October 05, 2025 12:21 PM (UPcVH)

27 Hey. Hey. Forget it Jake, it's Jerseytown. Yeah, see.

Posted by: Pantstoohigh Talksrealfast at October 05, 2025 12:24 PM (7Q0e+)

28 Ooo a discussion of state races in useless VA and NJ! Pass my black pills, please. One for each shithole.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 05, 2025 12:24 PM (wBaIH)

29 But the real question as we begin to look at a post-Trump political landscape is whether the Republican party can energize the base without the incredible draw of Donald Trump?

And God Help Us if the Democrats get back into power - they are making it clear, from Hakeem Jeffries on down, that they will be bent on Revenge.

A typical post from Bluesky:

The next Democratic administration is going to have to prosecute a lot of things—all legitimate crimes!—which means a lot of lefty lawyers are going to need to get real comfortable with being prosecutors real quick

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 05, 2025 12:27 PM (xTIDn)

30 Ciattarelli came out against building more housing or other construction, going full NIMBY against his opponent.
At a time NJ is likely going to take a yuuge influx of new refugees from the Marxist islands to its northeast, the last thing a candidate should be doing is promising more homeless and higher rents.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:28 PM (gKWVE)

31 But the real question as we begin to look at a post-Trump political landscape is whether the Republican party can energize the base without the incredible draw of Donald Trump? Converting his popularity into meaningful, long-term electoral changes requires more than what the Republican party is doing today.

It's a reasonable question, and one to which I don't know the answer, but I'm willing to suggest that things might actually improve once the lightning rod of Trump is off the ticket. A lot of people are starting to see what the Democrats are, and if not for the "Trump is icky" factor, might be more willing to come over to our side.

Maybe.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

32 And yeah, I think VA is winnable given how godawful the Dems are. Jim I mean Jay Jones is a maniac.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:29 PM (gKWVE)

33 Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

This could include those who think Netanyahu should just call in our buddies Little Boy and Fat Man, however.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:30 PM (gKWVE)

34 Good post, CBD.
It shows how "local" most politics is (are?).
I still sincerely believe that most of these blue megalopolises are not counting votes accurately, but Damn! Can't we even try?

Posted by: MkY at October 05, 2025 12:31 PM (cPGH3)

35 A hope in Virginia is that the recent news about Jay Jones shakes both races up.

And of course neither the Dems nor the media (BIRM) have disavowed that lunatic because, you know, they're all about the violence and toning it down.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

36 30 An influx of refugees to NJ? WRONG. The rats a fleeing the ship they sunk, and are on route to ruin the South.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 05, 2025 12:32 PM (wBaIH)

37 Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza

Because, after all, if Israel is destroyed, life will become easier for Jews in the Diaspora.

There are AsAJews who actually make this argument.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 05, 2025 12:32 PM (xTIDn)

38 And God Help Us if the Democrats get back into power - they are making it clear, from Hakeem Jeffries on down, that they will be bent on Revenge.

Spanberger's slogan was "rage". I rate this as a dog whistle for the Karens and the Karen-adjacent.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:33 PM (Riz8t)

39 Ooo a discussion of state races in useless VA and NJ! Pass my black pills, please. One for each shithole.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 05, 2025 12:24 PM (wBaIH)

Oh, FO.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 05, 2025 12:33 PM (5xuJ/)

40 And of course neither the Dems nor the media (BIRM) have disavowed that lunatic...

"Breaking news!!! Democrat is a horrible person! Film at eleven. Nah, just kidding."
-- MSM

Posted by: Oddbob at October 05, 2025 12:34 PM (7j8/C)

41 An influx of refugees to NJ? WRONG. The rats a fleeing the ship they sunk, and are on route to ruin the South.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 05, 2025 12:32 PM (wBaIH)

I disagree. When Mamdani wins, a fair number of NYC residents will move to NJ and CT to avoid the worst of his policies while still working in NYC.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 12:34 PM (n9ltV)

42 Sears makes up for her inexperience by not being a f****g lunatic.

The winning hack in my book.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 05, 2025 12:35 PM (XV/Pl)

43 Just look at how nice things are in the blue states and cities. Hopefully I can profit from the government stash before my neighbor does.

Hope and Change Baby!

Posted by: Smooth Brained democrat voter at October 05, 2025 12:35 PM (R/m4+)

44 Sears makes up for her inexperience by not being a f****g lunatic.

The winning hack in my book.

True, but that's not a convincing argument on the left, where the idea that "lunatics need representation too" holds sway.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:36 PM (Riz8t)

45
the real question as we begin to look at a post-Trump political landscape is whether the Republican party can energize the base without the incredible draw of Donald Trump?

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The real question might also be whether the Republican party is capable of fielding good candidates in blue states.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2025 12:36 PM (LSXps)

46 Winsome Earle-Sears
@winwithwinsome

NEW AD: Jay Jones dreamed of murdering two young kids and their dad over politics—and Abigail Spanberger wants him to be attorney general.

https://tinyurl.com/c9y79m2d

Posted by: redridinghood at October 05, 2025 12:36 PM (NpAcC)

47 Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Why is it Israel's War? Why not the Hamas War? They started it. Or just the Gazan War?
Annoying.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 05, 2025 12:37 PM (2WIwB)

48 Zhukov, my plan as Governor of NJ would be to clean up crime in Hoboken and Newark, crush whatever syndicates are stifling development, and develop the shit out of the whole northeast. Call it the "Garden Cities Plan" or something. Also propose annexing Staten Island.
NJ ports also need to be automated. (I know DJT didn't run on that, but he was wrong too.)

Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:37 PM (gKWVE)

49
The problem is there are a lot of right leaning people that generally don't vote unless its a presidential election. These two elections are exactly the type that a strong Republican GOTV would elect.

Of course the other problem is the large number of lefty LIVs who do, at least sometimes, vote. They'll vote for the leftwing maniacs in either state, and then in 6 months bitch that the government is screwing everything up. The government they just elected of course. Here a non-controlled FNM would make the difference.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2025 12:37 PM (sKqQm)

50 An influx of refugees to NJ? WRONG. The rats a fleeing the ship they sunk, and are on route to ruin the South.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 05, 2025 12:32 PM (wBaIH

Cool!!

Posted by: The Yanks Are Coming at October 05, 2025 12:37 PM (5xuJ/)

51 Winsome Earle-Sears
@winwithwinsome

NEW AD: Jay Jones dreamed of murdering two young kids and their dad over politics—and Abigail Spanberger wants him to be attorney general.

https://tinyurl.com/c9y79m2d

==

Very powerful !

Posted by: runner at October 05, 2025 12:40 PM (g47mK)

52 @winwithwinsome
NEW AD:

That's a good ad.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:40 PM (gKWVE)

53 Oh if the Marxists get back in power expect the Gulags to open.
Maybe we can be all shipped to Leftifornia to build that train that won't go anywhere

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 12:40 PM (+qU29)

54 Beautiful day here. Reckon I’ll just stay here in my recliner and chill.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2025 12:40 PM (u73oe)

55
The real question might also be whether the Republican party is capable of fielding good candidates in blue states.

The Rs have trouble in blue states because there is no fallback work for losing candidates.

In red states the left has a strong NGO network that trains would be political candidates and more importantly employees them. Run for governor even though you are unlikely to win? Why not at worst you'll get a BETTER NGO grift for running and losing.

Conversely in the blue states Republican candidates come from the dreaded private sector. If they lose in a political run they get blackballed back in that private sector. So why would they run unless they had a good chance of winning?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2025 12:41 PM (sKqQm)

56
I just want to say something about Scott Presler. He might not be all that. He's been found to take credit for things he didn't do.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2025 12:41 PM (LSXps)

57 Duke Lowell, sounds like a good plan. How's the pooper?

Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:41 PM (gKWVE)

58 Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza

It would be interesting to see the results for observant Jews vs atheist ones

I suspect the numbers are supportive for the former and lopsided against for the latter

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2025 12:42 PM (sKqQm)

59 I've come to the conclusion that 'party affiliation' is meaningless. It seldom, if ever, has anything to do with a particular candidate's position on... anything.

Because they will inevitably follow the money.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 05, 2025 12:42 PM (Q4IgG)

60 …and if not for the "Trump is icky" factor, might be more willing to come over to our side.

Maybe.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

No no no… icky Trump won 3 straight presidential elections (2020 being stolen) and you think it gets easier for republicans when he’s not on the ticket? No way… he’s our best vote getter by miles. There are literally millions of Trump voters that have never voted for anyone else

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 12:42 PM (WdMlw)

61 It would be interesting to see the results for observant Jews vs atheist ones

==

Better yet, to see what the questions were.

Posted by: runner at October 05, 2025 12:43 PM (g47mK)

62 The Demoncr@p running for Virginia AG is a real nasty piece of garbage.

Texts have leaked of him wishing his Republican opponent and family to die.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2025 12:43 PM (CmCN0)

63 Posted by: gKWVE at October 05, 2025 12:41 PM (gKWVE)

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I’m on the mend. I’ve lost 30 ponds through this, but my appetite is back.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2025 12:43 PM (u73oe)

64 …and if not for the "Trump is icky" factor, might be more willing to come over to our side.

Maybe.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)

No no no… icky Trump won 3 straight presidential elections (2020 being stolen) and you think it gets easier for republicans when he’s not on the ticket? No way… he’s our best vote getter by miles. There are literally millions of Trump voters that have never voted for anyone else

Posted by: LinusVanPelt

I think you misunderstood my point. Republicans vote 90%+ for Trump. I'm talking about bringing over some Independents or even Dems who are too embarrassed to say they support Trump, but who might be open to what comes next.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

65 I’m on the mend. I’ve lost 30 ponds through this

Does the EPA know about this?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:46 PM (Riz8t)

66 Heh

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 05, 2025 12:46 PM (u73oe)

67 I'm so old I remember when we had Election Day and not Voting Season.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

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If I move multiple times during Voting Season I can everyplace with same day registration.

The same applies with a Census Year too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 05, 2025 12:47 PM (/lPRQ)

68 We spent trillions on "improving elections, and changed election day to election month and yet getting results takes weeks and no one believes the results.

Funny how that works

Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2025 12:48 PM (sKqQm)

69 Voting season?

Campaign season seems to never end.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2025 12:48 PM (CmCN0)

70 How's the pooper?

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 05, 2025 12:50 PM (0zmu/)

71 I think you misunderstood my point. Republicans vote 90%+ for Trump. I'm talking about bringing over some Independents or even Dems who are too embarrassed to say they support Trump, but who might be open to what comes next.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:45 PM (Riz8t)

Trump gets the votes of non-affiliated (independent) folks and he does so reliably. When he’s not on the ballot they don’t vote. They don’t mind his icky factor…. You’re not gonna replace those people with more anti-icky independents. Trying to avoid ickyness is why much of the GOP is GOPe

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 12:52 PM (WdMlw)

72

We're not asking the really important questions... what does NPR think, and where did I leave the decorative gourd I bought yesterday?

Posted by: Peter Bootygig at October 05, 2025 12:52 PM (WKIwd)

73
The Demoncr@p running for Virginia AG is a real nasty piece of garbage.

Texts have leaked of him wishing his Republican opponent and family to die.

What if the majority of Virginians agree with him?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 05, 2025 12:52 PM (63Dwl)

74 Nuke Virginia from orbit

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2025 12:53 PM (CmCN0)

75 We spent trillions on "improving elections, and changed election day to election month and yet getting results takes weeks and no one believes the results.

Funny how that works
Posted by: 18-1
+++
The goal wasn't to improve elections. It was to " fortify" them.

Posted by: Slimy dems at October 05, 2025 12:53 PM (sw/8R)

76 We are all extremely spoiled I can tell you by Trump who is a true political unicorn; he’s one of a kind never to be duplicated and future elections without him will be challenging. Even if you love Vance (and I do) he’s no Trump. I didn’t even mention cheating but you know that’s gonna happen in both states (especially NJ) which is an even steeper hill to climb for the GOP candidates…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 12:13 PM (lepZb)

Let's go ahead and hold the elections anyway. Just in case.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 12:55 PM (bPFPB)

77 We spent trillions on "improving elections, and changed election day to election month and yet getting results takes weeks and no one believes the results.

Funny how that works
Posted by: 18-1 at October 05, 2025 12:48 PM (sKqQm)

You're not suggesting the oligarchs and the people who control us WANT us bickering and arguing over these things, are you?

Why, it's almost as if they want us divided all the time.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 05, 2025 12:55 PM (2b0zA)

78 As a New Jersian, a godforsaken place to live, neither candidates are worth a crap. The race is becoming a giant WHAF. Doesn't matter who wins, the peasants will get screwed.

Posted by: Indy Bill at October 05, 2025 12:56 PM (oHbDU)

79
44 Sears makes up for her inexperience by not being a f****g lunatic.

The winning hack in my book.

True, but that's not a convincing argument on the left, where the idea that "lunatics need representation too" holds sway.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:36 PM (Riz8t)

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Where you see lunacy, they see "telling it like it is" Where you see foaming criminal madness, they see commitment.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 05, 2025 12:57 PM (6sqKx)

80 As a New Jersian, a godforsaken place to live, neither candidates are worth a crap. The race is becoming a giant WHAF. Doesn't matter who wins, the peasants will get screwed.

Start small and work your way up. If the guv is GOP, there's a chance that things can change. If he's a Dem, there's none.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:58 PM (Riz8t)

81 I've come to the conclusion that 'party affiliation' is meaningless.

I wouldn't say meaningless but definitely not conclusive. At the least, it tells you whom he wants to suck up to.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 05, 2025 12:58 PM (MdFHM)

82 Where you see lunacy, they see "telling it like it is" Where you see foaming criminal madness, they see commitment.

I think we can agree that "commitment" should figure prominently on the left.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 12:58 PM (Riz8t)

83
What's a WHAF?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2025 01:00 PM (LSXps)

84 Trump's appeal comes from the way that he’s a cross between a good conservative politician, and Al Czervik in Caddyshack.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:00 PM (+htsy)

85 I remember more than a few elections I was sure the dems would steal. It’s what they do. Hrothgar and I would leave Corsicana and prepare for that. We were proven right in 2020. But! In 2424 America Spoke. It could happen in Virginia, maybe even New Jersey. When the left knows their only pathway to victory is stealing the election or killing their opponent, America knows it too.

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 01:01 PM (jgmnb)

86 Trump's appeal comes from the way that he’s a cross between a good conservative politician, and Al Czervik in Caddyshack.

So you're saying J.D. Vance should take up golf?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 05, 2025 01:01 PM (Riz8t)

87 I've come to the conclusion that 'party affiliation' is meaningless.
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I wouldn't say meaningless but definitely not conclusive. At the least, it tells you whom he wants to suck up to.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 05, 2025 12:58 PM (MdFHM)

Not only that, but if you are, for example, a Joe Manchin or Ruben Gallego, it really doesn't matter what you say in your campaign, you'll still vote with Chuck Schumer 99% of the time.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 05, 2025 01:02 PM (Pz03J)

88 Trump's appeal comes from the way that he’s a cross between a good conservative politician, and Al Czervik in Caddyshack.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:00 PM (+htsy)

First of all you're going to have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up. Then there's the kickbacks to the carpenters, and if you plan on using any cement in this building I'm sure the teamsters would like to have a little chat with ya, and that'll cost ya. Oh and don't forget a little something for the building inspectors. Then there's long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boyscouts.

Posted by: Thornton Melon at October 05, 2025 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

89 Nuke Virginia from orbit
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 05, 2025 12:53 PM (CmCN0)

Don't know if the FFV would like it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 05, 2025 01:05 PM (uQesX)

90 National Progressive Radio

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:05 PM (+qU29)

91 There's going to be a lot of Northern Virginians with free time available.

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2025 01:05 PM (FhXTo)

92 90 National Progressive Radio
Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:05 PM (+qU29

National People's Radio

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 01:08 PM (bPFPB)

93 Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza

I'm hoping for a cartoon Netanyahu head singing "Kyle's mom's a bitch"

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2025 01:09 PM (FhXTo)

94 91 There's going to be a lot of Northern Virginians with free time available.
Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2025 01:05 PM (FhXTo
And a lot of Antifa providing Philly NightStick ‘assistance’ to any voter who looks conservative.

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 01:10 PM (jgmnb)

95 83
What's a WHAF?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2025 01:00 PM (LSXps)

A radio or TV station that broadcasts from the United States based east of the Mississippi. That is especially true if the station was founded after 1924.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 01:12 PM (bPFPB)

96 My FWP, preemptively, is deciding which football game of two to watch, being housebound for another post operative day or two.
I'm thinking Dallas-Jets just to torture myself.

Posted by: From about That Time at October 05, 2025 01:13 PM (n4GiU)

97 Why is it Israel's War? Why not the Hamas War? They started it. Or just the Gazan War?
Annoying.
Posted by: Diogenes

++++++++

Israel is recognized state.

The Gazans are just a beach people hanging out on a beach doing beach people things.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 05, 2025 01:13 PM (/lPRQ)

98 Melissie Mackensie hits it out of the park with her article at AmSpec today, "Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Exposes the Depth of America’s Moral Crisis." If you read nothing else today, it must be this:
https://bit.ly/4nYVCQc

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:17 PM (tZIYc)

99 WAPE, The Big Ape! And now the Coasters with Yakkety Yak!

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 01:17 PM (jgmnb)

100 And a lot of Antifa

A short drive from Quantico, 8th & I, etc...

*** under new management ***

Posted by: DaveA at October 05, 2025 01:18 PM (FhXTo)

101 What is the status of the Dem voter fraud machine in the two states?

Its hard to not be black pilled with the two Communist states NJ and VA.

Of course there will be fraud. Obscene levels of fraud. I think we all know why the worthless GOP is mailing it in - where is their share of the grift?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 05, 2025 01:18 PM (a4flb)

102 Corsicana!

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 01:18 PM (jgmnb)

103 I know someone who recently sold a house in Lakewood NJ. Home price went from around 500k (20 years ago) to 1.5m due to limited supply and extraordinary demand because of an exodus from Brooklyn by certain faithful folks, and they had the funds to pay those prices. The seller moved Midwest.

Posted by: Pantstoohigh Talksrealfast at October 05, 2025 01:20 PM (7Q0e+)

104 ‘Move Midwest, son.’

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 01:22 PM (jgmnb)

105 There's an inherent flaw in any candidate that runs against a Democrat. People aren't really taking it into account yet, but they will soon enough.

They are mortal. They die when you shoot them in the neck. Democrats will use this to win.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 05, 2025 01:23 PM (UlHkG)

106 Now that I'm getting off Google, and leave my beloved YouTube, my source for NEW music suggestions (I try very hard not to listen to anything I've heard before,) I go to Spotify. YouTube's music library is FAR wider and deeper than Spotify's, and their suggestion algorithm is tops, but I guess I have to settle.

Problem is with the ads. I'm more than willing to listen to ads, but WHY do they have to be 3X LOUDER than the music is? It's worse than TV and AM radio, the way they do that! Spotify support offers no solution.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:23 PM (tZIYc)

107 101, 105: Concur.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:24 PM (tZIYc)

108 I need a drink. Arguing with a Russian on WWII crimes.
He is taken the Soviets to heart, even telling me Katyn was the Nazis work.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:28 PM (+qU29)

109 In west coast news, the enviros at the LA Times this morning put out an op/ed calling for the El Segundo refinery to be permanently closed.

I am strongly in favor of that idea; of course I admit I would derive a great deal of pleasure from watching SoCal’s economy collapse completely. It astounds me that Leftists are always completely clueless about the things their lives depend upon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:28 PM (+htsy)

110 A d the Gulags were largely criminals.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:29 PM (+qU29)

111 Vichy Republicans.

Posted by: Beverly at October 05, 2025 01:29 PM (Epeb0)

112
Poll Finds Most U.S. Jews Disapprove of Israel’s War in Gaza
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 05, 2025 12:20 PM (L/fGl).

A poll of US Jews living on the Upper West Side, maybe.

Posted by: No True Schlottman's Fallacy at October 05, 2025 01:30 PM (TbWk/)

113 Too bad that US Pope is a shitheel like Francis.

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:30 PM (/YboP)

114 A d the Gulags were largely criminals.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:29 PM (+qU29)

Wow.

Tell that to our old family friend who was in the gulag for a year.

His crime? Being a Polish Jew.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:31 PM (n9ltV)

115 Spotify support offers no solution.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:23 PM (tZIYc)

It's a free service. If you want no ads... pay for it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:33 PM (n9ltV)

116 114. And Solzynitsen. All you had to do is disagree, sorta like Starmer's Britain

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:34 PM (/YboP)

117 Thx CBD. Wondering how much the RNC is putting in. Probably listening to the consultants saying "that'll not who we are"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 05, 2025 01:34 PM (BLGhW)

118 108 I recommend the movie "Katyn" (2007) to everybody. You must see it once. You'll never want to watch it again, but watch it once you must.

Trivia: I once made a ham radio contact with a Polish guy who worked on the movie.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:35 PM (tZIYc)

119 A d the Gulags were largely criminals.
Posted by: Skip

Put down the weed, bro.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2025 01:35 PM (mlg/3)

120 I think the republican dude in jersey is a just a thinner chris christie.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 05, 2025 01:36 PM (snZF9)

121 115 True enough, for sure, but I don't do subscriptions. Like I said, I'll gladly listen to the ads, but blasting them at 3X volume is punishment.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:37 PM (tZIYc)

122 "Legal Insurrection " has a very good article on Miyares (R candidate for AG )response to Jay Jones. Scroll down at the site . I would do a tiny url but that site is not responding now. Sorry

https://legalinsurrection.com/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2025 01:37 PM (PFs9e)

123 120 but not pro LGTBQ .

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:37 PM (/YboP)

124 113 Too bad that US Pope is a shitheel like Francis.
Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:30 PM (/YboP)

Hey now, that's the Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ who stands in Jesus' place on earth, the Holy Father, the Successor of the Prince of the Apostles you're talking about there! The spokesman of God himself, selected by a most holy conclave of homos!

Posted by: How DARE you! at October 05, 2025 01:37 PM (TbWk/)

125 Is this one of those attempts to smear Presler, like the photosof him with another gay guy? Because he is still out there, registering voters and teaching people how to turn out the vote. He's one of the most effective people we have.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 05, 2025 01:38 PM (kUxzU)

126 I think the republican dude in jersey is a just a thinner chris christie.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 05, 2025 01:36 PM (snZF9)

With less personality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:38 PM (n9ltV)

127 124. Saying that Trump is treating the shitty migrants " inhumanely" makes dopey popey a shitheel of the first water.

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:39 PM (/YboP)

128 WHAF is WGAF for old idiots like me who can't type worth a damn. I shoulda just spelt it out.

Posted by: Indy Bill at October 05, 2025 01:39 PM (oHbDU)

129 In west coast news, the enviros at the LA Times this morning put out an op/ed calling for the El Segundo refinery to be permanently closed.

I am strongly in favor of that idea; of course I admit I would derive a great deal of pleasure from watching SoCal’s economy collapse completely. It astounds me that Leftists are always completely clueless about the things their lives depend upon.

I have come to the conclusion that there are, broadly speaking, two kinds of Leftists: The Soros types who have profited mightily, have an escape plan and are in good standing with Stan. The other types have undeveloped minds, no ability to process abstracts, no theory of mind, no inner monologue, and a lot of mental health issues - they can't comprehend a day with any meaningful struggle that comes as a result of their ideology.

Both types want this failure, but for very different reasons.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 05, 2025 01:39 PM (a4flb)

130 I'll gladly listen to the ads, but blasting them at 3X volume is punishment.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:37 PM (tZIYc)

Fair point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:39 PM (n9ltV)

131 The GULAG camps people talk about in the West were most emphatically not majority common criminals.

The GULAG transit system and regional isolators were mixed, by necessity. There were separate prisons for common criminals and political or ethnic prisoners. Where common criminals were housed alongside politicals, in those isolators or for convenience in longer term confinement, they were housed separately in much better conditions and allowed to prey on the politicals at will whenever in contact. They were, in fact, encouraged to take their food and hidden valuables, snitch on them, intimidate them, beat them and kill them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 05, 2025 01:40 PM (UlHkG)

132 124 113 Too bad that US Pope is a shitheel like Francis.
Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:30 PM (/YboP)

The Vatican is surrounded by walls and IIRC is not even a party to Schengen. And yet...

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 01:40 PM (bPFPB)

133 "Legal Insurrection " has a very good article on Miyares (R candidate for AG )response to Jay Jones. Scroll down at the site . I would do a tiny url but that site is not responding now. Sorry
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

https://shorturl.at/bvOpW

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2025 01:41 PM (mlg/3)

134 Is this one of those attempts to smear Presler, like the photosof him with another gay guy?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 05, 2025 01:38 PM (kUxzU)

Absolutely.

My personal experience with the lack of effort on the part of the NJ Republican party is simply a veiled effort to insinuate Presler is gay, even though he is out, and doesn't give a shit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:41 PM (n9ltV)

135 gp - good article
https://tinyurl.com/5n7amf2u
From 20 Posts at Doug Ross Substack Oct 4
Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell : " When a man does 6 or 7 crimes, we do not know his life story...Maybe he was hungry. Therefore, I haveczero desire jailing him"

That is the Cultural Marxists theory on society.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:42 PM (+qU29)

136 Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 05, 2025 01:41 PM (mlg/3)

Thanks; That was kind of you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2025 01:43 PM (Nx5jP)

137 Just remember. Most candidates from now on were "educated" in this country's public/private indoctrination institutions. There will be exceptions, but very few.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 05, 2025 01:44 PM (g8Ew8)

138
The Vatican is surrounded by walls and IIRC is not even a party to Schengen. And yet...
Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 01:40 PM (bPFPB)

Exactly. Take the walls down and sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor Leo!

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:44 PM (/YboP)

139 I really am read up to my ears on Russian history, many books no one would go near even if they could find them.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:45 PM (+qU29)

140 135 Thanks Skip!

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:45 PM (tZIYc)

141 At least I’m glad to know for sure that the American Pope is no AntiChrist. That is going to be one seriously scary dude, not some fool stumbling around on a stage talking to ice cubes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:46 PM (+htsy)

142 Is this one of those attempts to smear Presler, like the photosof him with another gay guy?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 05, 2025 01:38 PM (kUxzU)

Absolutely.

My personal experience with the lack of effort on the part of the NJ Republican party is simply a veiled effort to insinuate Presler is gay, even though he is out, and doesn't give a shit.

Reminds me a little of a Piers Morgan panel that had Douglas Murray on it and some 20-something FLAMING homo who tried the "straight white male privilege" attack like on Murray. Who then after a look of bemused contempt said something like "I've been openly gay longer than you've known what gay even is."

Posted by: Shows the viciousness and ignorance of the left at October 05, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

143 Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:45 PM (+qU29)

Have you read Kolyma Tales by Shalamov?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:46 PM (n9ltV)

144 141 At least I’m glad to know for sure that the American Pope is no AntiChrist. That is going to be one seriously scary dude, not some fool stumbling around on a stage talking to ice cubes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:46 PM (+htsy)

That was weird.

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:47 PM (/YboP)

145 It is obvious that for his MAGA agenda to persist against entrenched interests,Trump will have to remain a force within the GOP as a kingmaker, an attack dog from the bully pulpit, and a policy makers. Otherwise, the leeches on the GOP-e wing of the Uniparty will undo his historic legacy. He does want a spot on MT. Rushmore.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at October 05, 2025 01:47 PM (I6Dx9)

146 144 141 At least I’m glad to know for sure that the American Pope is no AntiChrist. That is going to be one seriously scary dude, not some fool stumbling around on a stage talking to ice cubes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:46 PM (+htsy)

That was weird.
Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:47 PM (/YboP)

Some kind of weird pagan shit, if you think about it.

Posted by: Bless this holy ice so we has more ice at October 05, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

147 Reminds me a little of a Piers Morgan panel that had Douglas Murray on it and some 20-something FLAMING homo who tried the "straight white male privilege" attack like on Murray.

Posted by: Shows the viciousness and ignorance of the left at October 05, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

That was a particularly impressive skewering. Murray doesn't f*ck around.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:48 PM (n9ltV)

148 Both types want this failure, but for very different reasons.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 05, 2025 01:39 PM (a4flb)

Good observation.
When a group of people are bent on self destruction, is there any point in trying to save them from themselves?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:48 PM (+htsy)

149 A d the Gulags were largely criminals.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:29 PM (+qU29)

Wow.

Tell that to our old family friend who was in the gulag for a year.

His crime? Being a Polish Jew.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:31 PM (n9ltV)

Millions were sent to the gulag for being "enemies of the people". Political crimes such as wrapping fish in a news paper with Stalin's portrait in it.

Posted by: runner at October 05, 2025 01:50 PM (g47mK)

150 It is obvious that for his MAGA agenda to persist against entrenched interests,Trump will have to remain a force within the GOP as a kingmaker, an attack dog from the bully pulpit, and a policy makers.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at October 05, 2025 01:47 PM (I6Dx9)

Archimedes made a good point about a post-Trump world up at 12:28.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:50 PM (n9ltV)

151 CBN no not that one

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:51 PM (+qU29)

152
Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell : " When a man does 6 or 7 crimes, we do not know his life story... Maybe he was hungry. Therefore, I have zero desire jailing him"

"Criminals might be victims of circumstance in the sense that few of them ever had a fair chance; but it was a mistake to forget that the only 'fair chance' they ever wanted was a chance for easy money." - James Gould Cozzens, The Just and the Unjust (1942)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 05, 2025 01:52 PM (tgvbd)

153 145 It is obvious that for his MAGA agenda to persist against entrenched interests,Trump will have to remain a force within the GOP as a kingmaker, an attack dog from the bully pulpit, and a policy makers. Otherwise, the leeches on the GOP-e wing of the Uniparty will undo his historic legacy. He does want a spot on MT. Rushmore.
Posted by: Augusto Perez at October 05, 2025 01:47 PM (I6Dx9
He’ll have to provide his on security if JD isn’t the next President.

Posted by: Eromero at October 05, 2025 01:52 PM (jgmnb)

154 Good observation.
When a group of people are bent on self destruction, is there any point in trying to save them from themselves?
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 05, 2025 01:48 PM (+htsy)

No.And that's why when the first European country falls, we should stay out of it so the others grow a spine

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:52 PM (/YboP)

155 I do know where Kolyma is

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:52 PM (+qU29)

156
Shalamov >> Solzhenitsyn

Posted by: runner at October 05, 2025 01:53 PM (g47mK)

157 Only way GOP has a chance in NJ or VA is if the previous year a Dem won the white house. So it ain’t happening.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (wrRTB)

158 Douglas Murray is gay? I had no idea… and don’t care, just like I don’t care that Pressler is gay

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (WdMlw)

159 143 Added to my list, thanks! Free to read and download at archive.org:
https://bit.ly/3WmwFCm

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (tZIYc)

160 I do know where Kolyma is

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:52 PM (+qU29)

It's painful, but worth a read "Gulag Archipelago" is a much better book, but still, just exposing the gulags is important.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (n9ltV)

161 "Converting his popularity into meaningful, long-term electoral changes requires more than what the Republican party is doing today."

Even if meaningful long-term changes could be derived from the Trump phenomenon, in itself a difficult proposition, there are no signs the actual GOP is even trying very hard in that direction. There are individual bright spots like Presler and his registration and GOTV efforts (finally embraced by an RNC that at least temporarily pretends to be serious).

And consider what is confirmed by the current situation. Dems at all-time lows in approval - for obvious solid reasons - and yet little sign (yet?) that it even matters. The Dems' "pitch", amazingly, has become more and more alien and ridiculous as times goes on. Vehement, often profane, histrionic championing the 20% position on 80/20 issues. Of course more appeals to the child-like emotional voids that exist in so many Dems' heads ("cruelty!" for simple long-overdue enforcement of law *against an astonishingly vile cohort of repugnant criminal illegals*).

Introduction and co-sponsorship of an amnesty bill by *GOP* Houseniks - in THIS environment and context - might be the darkest portent.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (U/Byj)

162 No.And that's why when the first European country falls, we should stay out of it so the others grow a spine
Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:52 PM (/YboP)

Because it won't bite us in the ass later.

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 01:55 PM (bPFPB)

163 My opinion about lack of effort on the part of R's in NJ is that they don't really care about Presler being gay. They just feel dispirited which leads to disorganization.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 05, 2025 01:55 PM (Nx5jP)

164 Seattle Mayor Bruce Harrell : " When a man does 6 or 7 crimes, we do not know his life story...Maybe he was hungry. Therefore, I haveczero desire jailing him"

He'll get three squares a day in prison. So really, it's the humanitarian thing to do to send him there.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 05, 2025 01:55 PM (0XWB1)

165 Douglas Murray is gay? I had no idea… and don’t care, just like I don’t care that Pressler is gay

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (WdMlw)

Yup.

People who don't define themselves by their private behavior are always going to be more serious and interesting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:56 PM (n9ltV)

166 162. I don't believe you can call and Article 5 if your hotel guests, that you invited, act out.

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 01:56 PM (/YboP)

167
Is this one of those attempts to smear Presler, like the photosof him with another gay guy? Because he is still out there, registering voters and teaching people how to turn out the vote. He's one of the most effective people we have.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

===============

I'm not sure what you're talking about. He made some claims about numbers he registered in PA that don't bear out.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2025 01:56 PM (LSXps)

168 Humble suggestion: when you suggest something for folks to read, your chance of success in getting them to possibly actually read it are increased somewhat by providing a link. YMMV.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 01:57 PM (tZIYc)

169 161

Even if meaningful long-term changes could be derived from the Trump phenomenon, in itself a difficult proposition, there are no signs the actual GOP is even trying very hard in that direction. There are individual bright spots like Presler and his registration and GOTV efforts (finally embraced by an RNC that at least temporarily pretends to be serious).

And consider what is confirmed by the current situation. Dems at all-time lows in approval - for obvious solid reasons - and yet little sign (yet?) that it even matters. The Dems' "pitch", amazingly, has become more and more alien and ridiculous as times goes on. Vehement, often profane, histrionic championing the 20% position on 80/20 issues. Of course more appeals to the child-like emotional voids that exist in so many Dems' heads ("cruelty!" for simple long-overdue enforcement of law *against an astonishingly vile cohort of repugnant criminal illegals*).

Introduction and co-sponsorship of an amnesty bill by *GOP* Houseniks - in THIS environment and context - might be the darkest portent.

What are you doing about it? Are you banging on your Reps and Sens via s-mail, e-mail, calls, faxes, etc?

Posted by: Cow Demon at October 05, 2025 01:57 PM (bPFPB)

170 Alexander Solzhenitsyn spells put the fait accompli political prisoners were convicted before trials if they even had one.

Posted by: Skip at October 05, 2025 01:57 PM (+qU29)

171 Vehement, often profane, histrionic championing the 20% position on 80/20 issues

—

This is a story the right tells itself. There are no 80/20 issues. At best there are 60/40 issues. Because even on things like deporting criminal alien child rapists, at least 40% of the public is against it, if Trump is for it.

Even Maryland Man which was a “80/20” issue ended up being a 50/50 issue since the msm twisted it into something it wasn’t. The Ds will always have that advantage no matter what.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 05, 2025 02:00 PM (wrRTB)

172 nood

Posted by: night lifted at October 05, 2025 02:03 PM (/YboP)

173 The GOP a party that does not want to win or lead.

I almost forgot scared too.

Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at October 05, 2025 02:03 PM (s9EN2)

174 Unless you are lucky enough to live near a superlative library, you can usually rely upon archive.org to have a copy of extremely rare, valuable and critically important works. It is a priceless treasure.

Posted by: gp at October 05, 2025 02:04 PM (tZIYc)

175 It's painful, but worth a read "Gulag Archipelago" is a much better book, but still, just exposing the gulags is important.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (n9ltV)

I need to reread it. I'll probably have to buy a new copy; my older books are mostly unfindable since I moved.

But Gulag Archipelago is definitely better. Kolyma Tales is almost more like a horror story, without so much meaning. It's more nihilistic. It reminds of Night in that regard.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 05, 2025 02:05 PM (UlHkG)

176 158 Douglas Murray is gay? I had no idea… and don’t care, just like I don’t care that Pressler is gay
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 05, 2025 01:54 PM (WdMlw)

And that's the thing, he doesn't define the core of his existence, his purpose on planet Earth or his persona by the fact that he's gay. Unlike the other guy on the panel who was hysterical, bitchy, and effeminate. Murray wiped the floor with him, and it was great.

Posted by: Funny how that works at October 05, 2025 02:05 PM (TbWk/)

177 I guess that the Pubbies don’t care whether the President has allies running the state government because of the “threat to democracy”.
I think they secretly want him to be impeached again. Why else would they throw away a win. Winsome Earle-Sears Is the best adherent to MAGA principles.
I’m glad I registered NPA(No Party Affiliation)!

Posted by: Unkaren at October 05, 2025 02:51 PM (o+IOE)

178 In order to win, one must at least want to, and if actions mean anything, the institutional Republican Party doesn’t care. Just like the Israelites wandering in the wilderness for 40 years after leaving Egypt until the self centered recalcitrant generations died off, the corporate establishment Republicans who have clawed their way to the top of the political pyramid will need to die out before populist leaders can take over. Donald Trump is just a transitional figure pointing the way…they would rather die than follow his lead.

Posted by: History for the Win at October 05, 2025 02:55 PM (w8tQI)

179 Your rant begs the question: Where is Trump in all this? I get constant appeals from him for money but he doesn’t appear to do much to boost the party. He kind of an absent party leader.

Posted by: JackWayne at October 05, 2025 03:56 PM (22a00)

180 "In order to win, one must at least want to, and if actions mean anything, the institutional Republican Party doesn’t care"

Should they care? Why are we worth fighting for? When I did local politics the biggest problem we had was finding people willing to run for office.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at October 05, 2025 04:17 PM (Q4Rn4)

181 It's inexcusable that as poorly as the Left has behaved - from trying to frame Trump to murdering Charlie Kirk, the GOP is still +/- 1% in generic polling.

Posted by: Fenrisulven at October 05, 2025 04:21 PM (Q4Rn4)

182 I just want to say something about Scott Presler. He might not be all that. He's been found to take credit for things he didn't do.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 05, 2025 12:41 PM (LSXps)

Well blonde, you would be wrong!

Scott Pressler SAVED Trumps butt in PA amd he’s a Republican Hero

Amd Sears, obviously she’s the. Better choice, but maybe she should t have dissed President Trump in 2019… she thought Youngkin was going to run

Bad juju

Posted by: Gonzotx at October 05, 2025 07:52 PM (nGraA)

183 Having the AG candidate want to kill the children of Republicans in front of their parents MIGHT increase voter activity in R areas.
NJ, make it a federal detention center with NYC and let's watch Escape from NY for reals.

Posted by: PTSD giver at October 05, 2025 09:33 PM (IHzq/)

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