Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: Dead of Winter

In the past few weeks, we saw Spinal Tap: The End Conitnues, which was quite good. (In a world of pathetic, warmed-over moribund properties, this is a hilarious, pathetic warmed-over moribund property.) We also saw Riefenstahl, which is interesting but ultimately kind of gormless with some terrific close-up film of the '36 Olympics.

We also saw The Long Walk, based on a Stephen King novel, and so I figured you might enjoy a review of a movie weighted down by its own stupidity. But that turned out to be a spoiler-laden 3,000 words.

Then we saw Chain Reactions, with a bunch of old lefties reflecting on Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and that turned out to be 2,000 words.

Fortunately, then we saw a good movie, which was easy to sum up in less than 1,000 non-spoiler-y words. And so I present:

Dead of Winter

"Emma Thompson is the love child of Marge Gunderson and Rambo" is your high concept take on Dead of Winter, the new thriller from Brian Kirk (best known as a director on "Game Of Thrones" and "Penny Dreadful") working off a script by composer Nicholas Jacob-Larson and actor Dalton Leeb.

Seriously, this screenplay is the only one either has to their credit.

The story is simple, but not shallow: Barb (Thompson) has come out to a remote lake in northern Minnesota for some reason, and getting a bit lost along the way she stops at a cabin where she interrupts Camo Jacket (Marc Menchaca, "Ozark", "Generation Kill") in the midst of his wood gathering.

Yeah, he has no name. The cast of ten has only five characters with names. This is an interesting kind of economy—you don't really notice it when people don't have names, but you really notice it when they do. Barb, as it turns out, is a widow, and one of the people who has a name is her late husband "Karl".

Anyway, she interrupts Camo Jacket and notices a little blood on the ground, and that he's a little awkward. But he points her to the lake and off she goes.

While she's off at the lake, we see her fishing, and clutching a tackle box like it's her most prized possession. She gets her truck stuck in the snow and while she's trying to get it out, we see Camo Guy chasing a young, bound girl, and dragging her back.

And that's the opening.

Ooh, yer gonna wanna put some "Bactine" on that.

Oh, Yah? Sorry!

Barb, of course, has to figure out how to rescue the girl, which involves doing some unpleasant things which, by Minnesota law, she's required to apologize for.

Politeness, paranoia, maintaining a demeanor or semblance of humanity in the face of savagery—it's all grist for Emma Thompson's Oscar-worthy performance as Barb. She just vanishes into the role. I can almost guarantee The Boy doesn't even know she has an English accent. And her Minnesotan isn't as broad as Frances McDormand's in Fargo. (Not once does she say "Oh, yah?". There are a lot of "soh-ree"s, of course.)

Her antagonist, the Purple Lady, is played by Judy Greer (just seen in The Long Walk), who makes the perfect anti-Barb: This is a story about how far you would go to survive. Barb is driven by a desire to save Leah, the kidnapped girl (Laurel Marsden). She endures incredible pain and hardship to do this (and to keep herself alive), while Leah's drive to survive seems to have emerged only with her kidnapping.

Purple Lady's drive to survive completely consumes her and her husband, Camo Jacket.

I'm just gonna run out and get you some pants.

In flashbacks we see young Barb (Gaia Wise, Thompson's real-life daughter) and Karl (Cúán Hosty-Blaney), on their first date, at their engagement, at their attempt to have children and finally Karl's end.

In a lot of horror movies, which this sort of is, the question of how deep to make the characters is answered with "saucer deep".

But! It can actually be worse to get a lot of backstory. "Here's ten minutes on this character's lifelong dream to be an arti—and she's dead." It can feel like padding or a cheap sentimentality. I was slightly concerned that might be the case here, and we don't really need much to support Barb. Thompson gets our support for free, really.

Here, every little bit of backstory ties in to a part of the current-day action. The fishing box, the lake itself, a wedding band, even the hostage herself, all feed back at critical times.

How To Make A Movie

The story, in other words, is well written. Human, even, which is something lacking in a lot of movies these days.

The acting is top-notch, too, as mentioned. (At one point, though, I half expected to hear Greer yell "You're not my supervisor!", so attuned to her voice acting work am I.)

The direction is good. The editing is good. The camerawork—

OK, here's the thing: I love snow-based movies, just for the snow. A Simple Plan, for example, was a book I hated but I watched the movie every time I'd come across it on cable (back when I had that) because I love the stark white and the contrast with the black. (And the movie fixes the book's excesses, at least closer to my taste.)

Would you buy a used, blood-covered rifle from this man?

I missed that sharpness here, which may be an issue with digital video or it may be just a contemporary choice. That aside, it's very good camerawork, and there's one particular shot from a basement looking up through a pair of storm doors that really struck me as something I'd never seen in a movie shot on film. I've seen similar shots, but they never integrated the two levels of lighting as well. It may not even be possible on film, or so hard or expensive that you wouldn't try it.

The music is so good, you won't notice it. It's working its magic behind the level of conscious awareness.

In short: It's a good movie. The Boy said "Good. Not perfect but good."

There is one gag with the tackle box that struck us both as impossible, but we also both knew it was going to happen, and I thought it worked from a narrative/thematic POV, even if it couldn't have actually happened. (Since I used a similar gag in my book Silk Unspun, and precisely because of the thematic value, I can't complain too much about it here.) The characters do some dumb stuff, as is usual for horror/thriller, but most of it works as "dumb things you might actually do in that situation."

When we saw it, it had a shockingly low 6.5 on IMDB. It's crept up to 6.7 since then. I would, personally, put it in the 7s, and will consider myself lucky to see another thriller as good this year.

I said YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:30 PM

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1 I expect the masochists to read my "The Long Walk" review before posting.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:30 PM (asXVI)

2 The Long Walk sounds like a movie about golf.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 07:34 PM (zZu0s)

3 That's a very good review, Gique. I'll see if it's at my googleplex.

I agree about snowbound movies. All that silence, the snow muffling noise, and the landscape buried beneath the snow...not to mention the isolation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:36 PM (kpS4V)

4 So whats the incentive to go on the walk

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:37 PM (bXbFr)

5 Eris,

Yeah, and for me, it's like an alien planet. Snow?! What CGI-generated nonsense is this?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:38 PM (asXVI)

6 Driving is faster.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 07:38 PM (gjue8)

7 4 So whats the incentive to go on the walk

REASONS!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:38 PM (asXVI)

8 Good evening everyone
Was watching English subtitles Union of Salvation on YouTube but hit a button and lost the movie. Seen it a few times and will get back in the future

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2025 07:39 PM (+qU29)

9 Miguel,

Seriously, it's VERY poorly explained. The idea is that you get all the money and a wish (no, really) and America's in economic collapse so it's the only way to get ahead.

So that's why, as a nerd, you would write a book about the walk to get rich, even though you're gonna die, and if you don't die you won't need the money.

Seriously, it's profoundly dumb.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:40 PM (asXVI)

10 Patton makes me root for the chainsaw

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:40 PM (bXbFr)

11 10 Patton makes me root for the chainsaw

It's not like he's IN the movie!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:41 PM (asXVI)

12 When I go to BasedCon in Grand Rapids, I walk the three miles to the hotel with a backpack and a bag of books.
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Where did we find such men?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:41 PM (kpS4V)

13 Sounds like hunger games which riffed on battle royale

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:42 PM (bXbFr)

14 I might hate-watch The Long Walk when it comes on streaming.

I'm giving myself bathroom breaks though.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:43 PM (kpS4V)

15 That whole or torture porn makes me sick

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:43 PM (bXbFr)

16 Reading the 3000 word synopsis because I wouldn't go pay to see anything from Steven Marxist, I mean King

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2025 07:43 PM (+qU29)

17 I liked cabin in the woods conversely because the tables were turned well until the Old ones emerge

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:44 PM (bXbFr)

18 Wait, is that Hamill in that picture? At first I thought it was Brian Cox.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 07:45 PM (zZu0s)

19 I expect the masochists to read my "The Long Walk" review before posting.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:30 PM (asXVI)

We don't even read the content!

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 07:46 PM (144I4)

20 The Long Walk sounds like a movie about golf.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 07:34 PM (zZu0s)

Or hiking from one terminal to another in one of the big fucking airports.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 07:46 PM (0aYVJ)

21 Brian cox would make a better chieftain

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr)

22 Dead of Winter sounds good. I'd never heard of it before.

And I do like A Simple Plan. It's hard to go wrong with Bill Paxton anyway.

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 07:47 PM (144I4)

23
"Good Boy" opened locally this weekend, so we're going to see it tomorrow.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2025 07:48 PM (iJfKG)

24 He was a decent colonel stryker in ex 2 something danny houston couldnt grasp

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:49 PM (bXbFr)

25
I agree about snowbound movies. All that silence, the snow muffling noise, and the landscape buried beneath the snow...not to mention the isolation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:36 PM (kpS4V)

Virtually every snow-bound movie turns into a survival thriller, just because of the setting. One recent and obscure snow film is Arctic, with Mads Mickelerikkitikkitavi as a bush pilot who's stranded in the tundra trying to survive in the wreckage of his plane. Great film, with one of my favorite aircraft, the AN-2 Colt biplane except that I'm annoyed that it's in the film as a pile of wreckage.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 07:51 PM (FoIOl)

26 Would the Texas Chainsaw Massacre thing even work? Put the blade in dirt and it will no longer cut wood.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 07:52 PM (gjue8)

27
Speaking of movies...and soundtracks:

I watched "Magnolia" again after a couple of decades...mostly to hear Jon Brion's score.

Brion's music doesn't insist upon itself but perfectly supports the action and emotions on screen so well you may not be aware of just how effective it is.

And after hearing his score for the previous night for "Punch Drunk Love"...yeah, the guy's some kind of genius. Probably check out "Eternal Sunshine..." and "I Heart Huckabee's" soundtracks and/or movies next.

As far as "Magnolia" goes, I still think its reputation is overblown. The multiple character arcs don't track well or make sense sometimes. The mysterious, miraculous rain of frogs at the end is supposed to signal a moment where everything is possible and new ways/paths in life can occur.

I really like the idea but for some reason it just doesn't pay off well. I suppose the cop and druggie's story works the best in that regard.

Great directing, some great scenes, great acting with all of the major actors getting their moment to shine. But, the final film is a bit of a dog's breakfast.

Great score though and well used.
Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2025 07:52 PM (iJfKG)

28 Emma thompson has gone stark raving off screen making us forget her earlier work

It looks like a scary character story

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:52 PM (bXbFr)

29 Where did we find such men?!
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lol

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18 Wait, is that Hamill in that picture? At first I thought it was Brian Cox.
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Which one? In this review, the man is not Hamill nor Cox. In "The Long Walk" review it's Hamill.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:53 PM (asXVI)

30 "Dead of Winter" isn't showing near me. Nothing really appeals to me in this weird interim period between summer schlock and fall/winter heavies.

Oscar bait movies are hákarl at this stage.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:53 PM (kpS4V)

31 I saw the long trailer of the Walk, or Hike when seeing the F-1 movie.
The synopsis shows it was written by a Leftist yet it would be the Communists who would do that.

Good review though

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2025 07:54 PM (+qU29)

32 Virtually every snow-bound movie turns into a survival thriller, just because of the setting. One recent and obscure snow film is Arctic, with Mads Mickelerikkitikkitavi as a bush pilot who's stranded in the tundra trying to survive in the wreckage of his plane. Great film, with one of my favorite aircraft, the AN-2 Colt biplane except that I'm annoyed that it's in the film as a pile of wreckage.

Great movie, IMO.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 04, 2025 07:54 PM (mH6SG)

33 Virtually every snow-bound movie turns into a survival thriller, just because of the setting. One recent and obscure snow film is Arctic, with Mads Mickelerikkitikkitavi as a bush pilot who's stranded in the tundra trying to survive in the wreckage of his plane. Great film, with one of my favorite aircraft, the AN-2 Colt biplane except that I'm annoyed that it's in the film as a pile of wreckage.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 07:51 PM (FoIOl)
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Wasn't that a good one? He's not just fighting the environment but also isolation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:55 PM (kpS4V)

34 26 Would the Texas Chainsaw Massacre thing even work? Put the blade in dirt and it will no longer cut wood.
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Joe Bob Briggs has often pointed out that a Chainsaw is a =terrible= weapon.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI)

35 || Virtually every snow-bound movie turns into a survival thriller,

Who can forget when Rosemary Clooney took down Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye in the bloody survival classic "White Christmas"!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI)

36 Emma thompson has gone stark raving off screen making us forget her earlier work

Pity. I've always found her fetching, British teeth and all.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2025 07:57 PM (Riz8t)

37
A Simple Plan, for example, was a book I hated

I can see where you would hate it. It's one of the bleakly brutal books written in the past 20 years. Personally, I like it for that bleak atmosphere, not to mention the morality tale of what happens when you try to take shortcuts.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 07:57 PM (FoIOl)

38 Didn't the incomparable Nic Cage fight with a chain saw in "Mandy"? And also maybe a Klingon bat'leth?

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:57 PM (kpS4V)

39 I watched a RiffTrax movie that was...actually kind of good. Very unique and fairly interesting premise, it was just old and pretty mid-budget even for the time. The movie was D.O.A. (Dead on Arrival) It featured some generic 50's business guy who wakes up one morning only to learn that he's been poisoned. It's a very made-for-the-movies poison, which has no antidote, and will cause him to suddenly drop dead sometime in the near future. With literally nothing left to lose, he goes on a private-investigator-style rampage, trying to figure out who poisoned him and why, hopefully bringing them down in the process.

The movie was fairly pedestrian on its own, so the RiffTrax jokes (provided by the girls of the website) mostly just fill the empty space and add a few points of interest. Pair that with a story that is at least interesting, and you've got a pretty good way to spend 90 minutes.

Posted by: Castle Guy at October 04, 2025 07:58 PM (Lhaco)

40 You would have to threaten violence to get to watch ans anothet battle

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 07:58 PM (bXbFr)

41
Wasn't that a good one? He's not just fighting the environment but also isolation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 07:55 PM (kpS4V)

Yup, it's awesome.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 07:59 PM (FoIOl)

42 How did it end up off rifftrax it was remade with dennis quaid in the 80s

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:00 PM (bXbFr)

43 Dr. Jekyll. the 1941 version with Spencer Tracy and Ingrid Bergman, just finished on TCM East.

They played Soylent Green before that.
2022 was totally wrong but I did like that Heston and Robinson's characters shared a tablet like device in their hovel of an apartment. I don't know what it did other than work like an Etch-A-Sketch for lists and messages, but it was electronic.

They really didn't try too hard to make that movie look futuristic. It still looked like the early 70s in most of the scenes.

I enjoyed it, though. Hadn't seen it in years.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 04, 2025 08:01 PM (6ydKt)

44 That does sound like a pretty retarded movie.

Voluntary? To what end?

If it was so e sort of Bataan Death March for subversive, maybe. As it is, why... I am betting King saw Squid Game and decided to try to grab so e money.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:01 PM (zZu0s)

45 There was a similar one with jesn reno where he plays a loner in the canadian woods who is a hitman but its not the interesting part

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:01 PM (bXbFr)

46 "Legends Of The Fall" is still one of my favorite flicks.
Excellent cast, drama and scenery.
I still feel like I was born 150 years too late.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at October 04, 2025 08:01 PM (JaGQD)

47 Closing brackets are your friend.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 04, 2025 08:01 PM (6ydKt)

48 Who can forget when Rosemary Clooney took down Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye in the bloody survival classic "White Christmas"!
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 07:56 PM (asXVI)
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It was originally rated X until they cut out the controversial "blood on the ice" flensing scene. Clooney was enraged; it was her best work.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:02 PM (kpS4V)

49 Jean reno,

Dystopia seemed to be a thing under his bachman name

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:03 PM (bXbFr)

50 That The Boyz spinoff sucks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 08:03 PM (gjue8)

51 What was that Snow Vampire movie? Forty Days of Night?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s)

52 I can see where you would hate it. It's one of the bleakly brutal books written in the past 20 years. Personally, I like it for that bleak atmosphere, not to mention the morality tale of what happens when you try to take shortcuts.
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The author is a good writer, it's a fine morality play, and--well, my mom got it for me because critics were trashing it and Stephen King came out and defended it, lol.

I took out all the throat-clearing but, yeah, it's just not my taste and it's so, so dark. (The writer went on to do a killer-plant horror movie I liked. Heh.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:04 PM (asXVI)

53 I stopped watching The Boyz like two episodes in to the third season.

I'd had enough, and I didn't think it was going to get much better. Erin Moriarty was the biggest reason to stick around.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 04, 2025 08:04 PM (6ydKt)

54 The Ghost and Mr. Chicken is on Svengoolie.

Looks the spooky house in the opening is maybe the Munsters house?

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 08:05 PM (144I4)

55 38 Didn't the incomparable Nic Cage fight with a chain saw in "Mandy"? And also maybe a Klingon bat'leth?
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Yes! I think it was just an uber-Heavy-Metal-Axe but it sure looked bat'lethy to me.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:05 PM (asXVI)

56
If it was so e sort of Bataan Death March for subversive, maybe. As it is, why... I am betting King saw Squid Game and decided to try to grab so e money.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:01 PM (zZu0s)

The original novella is about 50 years old, one of King's first. As I recall, you can tell because the villain isn't the US military, screaming cousin-humping Christian bigots, and space aliens like 98% of his later writing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 08:06 PM (FoIOl)

57 Posted by: SpeakingOf at October 04, 2025 08:04 PM (6ydKt)

I watched through season 1. Then I was like 'what the hell am I doing?'

I am SO tired of subversion. I am so tired of 'realistic.' Watch Rocketeer or the First Captain America movie (same director.) So wholesome it's like balm for the soul.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s)

58 In a novella hard to grok the method of the dystopia

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:08 PM (bXbFr)

59 If it was so e sort of Bataan Death March for subversive, maybe. As it is, why... I am betting King saw Squid Game and decided to try to grab so e money.
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No, this is possibly the first novel he ever wrote. He claims he wrote it in the '60s in college, and it really feels that way.

In any event, it was a Bachman book, published originally in 1979.

It also has "In A Future America" on the cover which...this isn't. It really is a jerkoff hippie anti-America fantasy.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:08 PM (asXVI)

60 I recorded "Dumbo" so I'm gonna go watch that.

That scene where Dumbo's mother caresses him with her snout through the window bars singing "Baby mine" always gets me in the feelz.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:09 PM (kpS4V)

61 But the screenplay should flesh it out

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:09 PM (bXbFr)

62 It was originally rated X until they cut out the controversial "blood on the ice" flensing scene. Clooney was enraged; it was her best work.
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Eris and I are going to start a "Director's Cut" movement for "White Christmas".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:09 PM (asXVI)

63 I like tje Bataan Death March connection

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2025 08:10 PM (+qU29)

64 What was that Snow Vampire movie? Forty Days of Night?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s)
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That's a good one too! Maybe Thirty Days?

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:11 PM (kpS4V)

65 The Ice Storm is my favorite.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2025 08:11 PM (IC093)

66 Eris and I are going to start a "Director's Cut" movement for "White Christmas".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:09 PM (asXVI)

Danny Kaye is really a secret agent for the House Un-American Activities Commitee. Hardest drinking, skirt chasing, two fisted character ever portrayed on screen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:11 PM (zZu0s)

67 Eris and I are going to start a "Director's Cut" movement for "White Christmas".
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:09 PM (asXVI)
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Let Clooney be Clooney!

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:12 PM (kpS4V)

68 That would really be a challenge, reframing "White Christmas", but look, they're old war buddies, and they're bringing back their old general--sounds like a coup in the making!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:15 PM (asXVI)

69 Umcay i'll go with that

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:16 PM (bXbFr)

70
Looks the spooky house in the opening is maybe the Munsters house?
Posted by: haffhowershower

It is.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Mansion

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 04, 2025 08:17 PM (63Dwl)

71 Garth ennis hates superheroes why would i want to watch that watchmen was bad enough

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr)

72 I liked the short story of 'The Long Walk'. It was very good. King's short stories are much better than his novels.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 04, 2025 08:17 PM (+J/Au)

73 15-20 years ago, I was like, I won't become an old person, that doesn't like new music, or new movies...then, some "Music" folks decided Rock was dead, and only pushed sh*tty paint by numbers pop. and EVERY action film seemed to have a nice gloomy blue/green tint....ugh...now I only watch 30s, 40s, and 50s films with great cinematography , plots that seem way too good for a little B film....and actors that you actually can tell one from another...
now, get off my lawn

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 08:20 PM (/Pwrg)

74 Garth ennis hates superheroes why would i want to watch that watchmen was bad enough
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr)
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Garth Ennis hates America(ns).

I enjoyed the show "Preacher" but you could tell it was made by non-Americans, who are overly fond of their God, guns, and beef.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:22 PM (kpS4V)

75 Many of those films like the noirs have much to commend them

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:23 PM (bXbFr)

76 Yesterday, as it's l Halloween movies on all channels The Last Man in Earth with Vincent Price, don't think ever see it before. But it's script was followed by Charlton Heston Omega Man very closely which seen many times.

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2025 08:23 PM (+qU29)

77

I am SO tired of subversion. I am so tired of 'realistic.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s)

The subverted version of Gilligan's Island would be pretty awesome. Gilligan realizes that chopping The Skipper with a stone ax would feed the rest of the group for a month, The Professor would use Thurston Howell as bait for his ingenious bamboo shark trap, at least until he tripped and fell into the bait cage where both of them are eaten by Tiger Sharks. Gilligan would turn Lovey, Ginger and Mary Ann into his love-slaves and rule the island as Big Chief G.

When the food ran out though, Mary Ann would use the Stone Ax of Doom to overthrow Big Chief G and also take out her rival, that redhead bitch Ginger. She wouldn't rule for long since Lovey would stab her through the eye with a bamboo shard in the final confrontation. When the US Navy came by and found her, Lovey would publicly morn her shipmates at least until Thurston's probate was processed and she moved to Monaco to live in style.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 08:24 PM (FoIOl)

78 72 I liked the short story of 'The Long Walk'. It was very good. King's short stories are much better than his novels.
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I had the idea that it was probably a good read. There's so much the movie elides or takes for granted, and there's the whole "We've gotta have a diverse cast" which means you know how the story has to end.

Things you could support very easily in writing with a line here or there, you can't do in a movie in 2025. (It might've worked in 1980, when even the fictionailzed world was more homogenized.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:25 PM (asXVI)

79 I read a book on the dames of film noir, and one of the actresses said basically, Who remembers the big budget technicolor fantasies? It's the black and white B movies every film buff loves talking about.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:27 PM (kpS4V)

80 on topic of entertainment: Mark "Buttfumble" Sanchez, embarrassment to the Jets, is going to jail. For stabbing a delivery boy who was parked where Buttfumble didn't like.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE)

81 James gunn is gerting on my nerves as well guardians was essenrially farscape with tweaks and it ran out of steam at no 2

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:27 PM (bXbFr)

82 Eddie mullers book i agree

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:27 PM (bXbFr)

83 Embarasment and jets isnt that redundant

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:28 PM (bXbFr)

84 There is just pitch black in modern noir

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:29 PM (bXbFr)

85 See joel coens recent offering

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:30 PM (bXbFr)

86 75 Many of those films like the noirs have much to commend them

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:23 PM (bXbFr)

Ever see I Wake Up Screaming? Quite interesting...Betty Grable and Victor Mature are the leads but Laird Cregar steals the film. Shame he died in 1944 (at the age of 30, looked mid 40s) And, IMHO, Carole Landis is better looking than Betty

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 08:30 PM (/Pwrg)

87 74 Garth ennis hates superheroes why would i want to watch that watchmen was bad enough
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr)
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Garth Ennis hates America(ns).

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:22 PM (kpS4V)

I think he may just hate people and society in general. Not sure if I've read Ennis directly (never wanted to even touch The Boys) but when I've accidently stumbled into reading those like him (I think it happened to be Warren Ellis doing a Witchblade special) the story just dripped with contempt for everyone and everything...

Posted by: Castle Guy at October 04, 2025 08:30 PM (Lhaco)

88 Thats seems umpossible about carole landis

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:32 PM (bXbFr)

89 Coworkers have been teasing one of the GenZ guys for not having seen a lot of Iconic movies and making a list of essential films on his white board: Caddyshack, Blazing Saddles, Office Space, and such.

Joined in by sending him a list of essential horror movies for October: Hellraiser, Phantasm, Event Horizon, Dog Soldiers, The Witch, Trick R Treat, Cabin in the Woods.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 04, 2025 08:32 PM (vKEG1)

90 The subverted version of Gilligan's Island would be pretty awesome. Gilligan realizes that chopping The Skipper with a stone ax would feed the rest of the group for a month, The Professor would use Thurston Howell as bait for his ingenious bamboo shark trap, at least until he tripped and fell into the bait cage where both of them are eaten by Tiger Sharks. Gilligan would turn Lovey, Ginger and Mary Ann into his love-slaves and rule the island as Big Chief G.

When the food ran out though, Mary Ann would use the Stone Ax of Doom to overthrow Big Chief G and also take out her rival, that redhead bitch Ginger. She wouldn't rule for long since Lovey would stab her through the eye with a bamboo shard in the final confrontation. When the US Navy came by and found her, Lovey would publicly morn her shipmates at least until Thurston's probate was processed and she moved to Monaco to live in style.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 08:24 PM (FoIOl)

LOL sounds like you've had this one loaded up and ready to go!

You'll have to subscribe to Lovey's channel to see how she thanked the sailors for rescuing her.

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 08:32 PM (144I4)

91 Castle Guy will want to steer right clear of Crossed, then

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2025 08:33 PM (gKWVE)

92 Didn't Garth Ennis get all pissy because the Rorshach character from Watchmen was a favorite among the fans and Ennis hated him. He wrote a character people were suppose to hate and instead, the opposite happened. Oops.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 04, 2025 08:33 PM (+J/Au)

93 Sanchez was stabbed, not the delivery guy, Probably charged with assault for using pepper spray.

Posted by: Accomack at October 04, 2025 08:33 PM (Bbhox)

94 No blah blah blah

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 04, 2025 08:33 PM (31Sjj)

95 Oh no the flying knife ball!

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:34 PM (bXbFr)

96 which involves doing some unpleasant things which, by Minnesota law, she's required to apologize for.

Hey, we're not as bad as the Canadians!

.....that was uncalled for. I'm sorry.

Posted by: mikeski at October 04, 2025 08:34 PM (nhCoE)

97 Who remembers the big budget technicolor fantasies? It's the black and white B movies every film buff loves talking about.
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I love Technicolor. It hurts my heart to see the colors fade in the '60s to be "natural", then "drab" then "soul crushing".

But I'm not sure if that's what she means. Technicolor musicals, thrillers (like Hitch), Biblical epics...all great stuff.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:34 PM (asXVI)

98 Chain Reactions sounds kinda like fun, actually, even though I've never been a fan of Patton Oswalt -- tried watching one of his 'comedy' specials and gave up about 15 minutes in because I'd heard nothing funny in it. I found the intros he did to a couple of Harlan Ellison's books annoying. YMMV.

If you want King riffing on horror, grab a copy of his book Danse Macabre. Well worth a read for any fan of the genre. It's a look at horror in fiction, film, and television, roughly 1950-80, and it's worth the price of admission just for the lists of recommended books and movies in the back of the book. Even if you can't stand King's fiction, this one's worth the coin.

And I liked A Simple Plan, both book and movie, a lot.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 04, 2025 08:35 PM (q3u5l)

99 I apologize unreservedly (john cleese hanging upside down)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:36 PM (bXbFr)

100 Watchmen was Alan Moore, not Ennis.
Anyway Moore was actually right that Rorschach attracted the wrong fans for the wrong reason.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2025 08:36 PM (gKWVE)

101
LOL sounds like you've had this one loaded up and ready to go!

You'll have to subscribe to Lovey's channel to see how she thanked the sailors for rescuing her.
Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 08:32 PM (144I4)

Nope, believe it or not it just kind of flowed out of me when I read Aetius' comment. I just tapped into my inner misanthrope and it worked.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 08:36 PM (FoIOl)

102 Same genre different author

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

103 Ever see I Wake Up Screaming? Quite interesting...Betty Grable and Victor Mature are the leads but Laird Cregar steals the film. Shame he died in 1944 (at the age of 30, looked mid 40s) And, IMHO, Carole Landis is better looking than Betty
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Laird Cregar died of plastic surgery, I think. He was "His Excellency" (the Devil) in "Heaven Can Wait".

I adore Carole Landis. Just an absolute bombshell and funny, too. (See, "Turnabout".)

She died young in a plane crash if memory serves, and then ignominiously made a character in the abysmal book "Valley of the Dolls".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)

104 How was the thread posted after the comments?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (gjue8)

105
ghee ga gooble Trump goo

Posted by: Stephen King at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (6sqKx)

106 Post just updated their story. I’ll wait till tomorrow.
Astartes really needs a movie franchise.

Posted by: Accomack at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (Bbhox)

107 Ace failed to lock down his time machine

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2025 08:38 PM (gKWVE)

108 Better get to bed
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2025 08:38 PM (+qU29)

109 98 Chain Reactions sounds kinda like fun, actually, even though I've never been a fan of Patton Oswalt
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It is, really, up until King comes on, and he's ... well, he's just Stephen King so he does WTF he wants. Karyn Kusama was worthless.

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If you want King riffing on horror, grab a copy of his book Danse Macabre.
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Yeah, that's sort of why I expected more from him. I'm not sure how well his brain is working, honestly.

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And I liked A Simple Plan, both book and movie, a lot.
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I get that. I had a whole paragraph about my feelings for it and just dropped them.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:39 PM (asXVI)

110 "Dumbo" is just the cutest movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,, coming to you live from the Roller Disco of Discord! at October 04, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V)

111
How was the thread posted after the comments?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (gjue

Teh Ewok gave moviegique a key to that time machine that he totally doesn't have...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 08:40 PM (FoIOl)

112 104 How was the thread posted after the comments?

It's pretty easy, really.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:40 PM (asXVI)

113 A Prometheus cooking show.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 04, 2025 08:40 PM (k+eDL)

114 No love for Ang Lee on this thread? Am disappoint.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2025 08:40 PM (vL0rw)

115 110 "Dumbo" is just the cutest movie.
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And it's 1940, right? I often forget that it's, like, the SECOND animated feature ever made.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:41 PM (asXVI)

116 Mary Steenburgen did a really good Dead of Winter movie back in the 80s but the plots appear to be unrelated.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 04, 2025 08:41 PM (jYRYu)

117 114 No love for Ang Lee on this thread? Am disappoint.

I was gonna say "Check comment #65" but since that's you...

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:41 PM (asXVI)

118 116 Mary Steenburgen did a really good Dead of Winter movie back in the 80s but the plots appear to be unrelated.
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No relation, yes. And there are a couple other films in-between the two with the same title.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:42 PM (asXVI)

119 That Vincent Price flick, Last Man on Earth, was the first screen adaptation of I Am Legend -- script was by Richard Matheson based on his own novel. If memory serves, he used the pseudonym Logan Swanson on the screen credit. Low budget, but really not bad at all.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 04, 2025 08:43 PM (q3u5l)

120 I was gonna say "Check comment #65" but since that's you...
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:41 PM (asXVI)
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At least someone is familiar with my work.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2025 08:44 PM (vL0rw)

121 Is that the one with the Nixon mask?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 08:48 PM (gjue8)

122 No relation, yes. And there are a couple other films in-between the two with the same title.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:42 PM (asXVI)

In the future all movies have the same title.

Posted by: Sandra Bullock in Demolition Man at October 04, 2025 08:48 PM (jYRYu)

123 Who remembers the big budget technicolor fantasies? It's the black and white B movies every film buff loves talking about.
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I love Technicolor. It hurts my heart to see the colors fade in the '60s to be "natural", then "drab" then "soul crushing".

But I'm not sure if that's what she means. Technicolor musicals, thrillers (like Hitch), Biblical epics...all great stuff.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:34 PM (asXVI)

so aptly put! DuBarry Was a Lady...Lucille Ball's red hair is otherworldly...
why did color become so....washed out?

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 08:49 PM (/Pwrg)

124
And another hollywood celery has morphed into an old lesbian as he aged.

This time it's Sean Penn, who now looks like Ellen Degeneres.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2025 08:50 PM (3B9GA)

125 103 Ever see I Wake Up Screaming? Quite interesting...Betty Grable and Victor Mature are the leads but Laird Cregar steals the film. Shame he died in 1944 (at the age of 30, looked mid 40s) And, IMHO, Carole Landis is better looking than Betty
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Laird Cregar died of plastic surgery, I think. He was "His Excellency" (the Devil) in "Heaven Can Wait".

I adore Carole Landis. Just an absolute bombshell and funny, too. (See, "Turnabout".)

She died young in a plane crash if memory serves, and then ignominiously made a character in the abysmal book "Valley of the Dolls".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)

Yes, he was the Devil in Heaven Can Wait! Died after a crash diet...from imdb
"Laird's obsession with avoiding the inevitable stereotype as a "heavy heavy" and wistful pursuit of a romantic leading man career compelled him to go on a reckless, unsupervised crash diet (from 300 lbs to 200 lbs), which is evident by his drastically trimmed-down look in his last film. This proved too strenuous on his system and he was forced to undergo surgery for a severe stomach disorder. His 30-year-old heart gave out on the morning of December 9, 1944

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 08:52 PM (/Pwrg)

126 why did color become so....washed out?
Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 08:49 PM (/Pwrg)

It was cutting edge and historically appropriate for Private Ryan and Band of Brothers, but then it just became a gimmick.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 04, 2025 08:52 PM (jYRYu)

127 Re Texas Chainsaw. I've not seen Chain Reactions yet, but if I had any say in who got an interview, one guy I'd have in the top 5 would have been Kealan Patrick Burke. If you want to know why I'd have Burke in there, check out the description of his novel Kin. Why that one hasn't been filmed yet, I don't know.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 04, 2025 08:53 PM (q3u5l)

128 She died young in a plane crash if memory serves, and then ignominiously made a character in the abysmal book "Valley of the Dolls".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 08:37 PM (asXVI)

So glad I'm not the only one that loves Turnabout! Silly, but so funny!

Sadly, she commited suicide in 1948 (or...was murdered by Rex Harrison, really, look it up, her family today thinks that's what happened)

Very sad life...."She desperately wanted to become a mother but suffered from endometriosis and could not have children. She had numerous other health problems during her life, including dysentery, malaria, pneumonia and depression."

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 08:57 PM (/Pwrg)

129
If this is the Future in Space, count me in!

Check out how these Space Women dress on spaceships:

https://is.gd/jP4H14

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2025 08:58 PM (3B9GA)

130 James gunn is gerting on my nerves as well guardians was essenrially farscape with tweaks and it ran out of steam at no 2
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at October 04, 2025 08:27 PM (bXbFr)

Farscape was FAR better written with much better characters.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:59 PM (zZu0s)

131
Above video clip is from 1978's epic Space sci-fi adventure, Starcrash, starring Christopher Plummer and someone Munro, I forgot her fist name.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2025 09:00 PM (3B9GA)

132 Aetius451AD and I will have to agree to disagree.
Farscape and GotG-1 were on par with each other.
It's just that Farscape improved over time and ended with Peacekeeper Wars, where GotG blundered around and got retarded in its sequels. Although apparently there's a game that is good.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2025 09:03 PM (gKWVE)

133 98
'If you want King riffing on horror, grab a copy of his book Danse Macabre.'

One of my favorites from him.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 04, 2025 09:05 PM (fd80v)

134 Caroline Munro

And if we take "Starcrash" and "Fire Maidens From Outer Space," sign me up Elon!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:05 PM (asXVI)

135 It was cutting edge and historically appropriate for Private Ryan and Band of Brothers, but then it just became a gimmick.
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Long before the '90s, the Technicolor '50s gave way to the "naturalistic" '60s. The '70s at least began to bring back vibrant colors, even if they were garish and hallucinogen induced.

Technicolor itself dropped out of use completely in the '80s. Too expensive.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:07 PM (asXVI)

136 Watchmen was Alan Moore, not Ennis.
Anyway Moore was actually right that Rorschach attracted the wrong fans for the wrong reason.
Posted by: gKWVE

Perhaps worth noting— Rorschach was Moore's permutation of Steve Ditko's The Question, and represented Ditko's sociopolitical views.

For those who might not know the background, DC comics bought up the old Charleton line, and asked Moore to write their characters into the DC universe. What Moore wrote would make the characters unusable, but DC liked the story enough they asked Moore to re-write it as a standalone story. Which was much better for that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - linking critters at October 04, 2025 09:07 PM (fevhA)

137 Thanks for the corrections/memory jogs, zigggggy!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:08 PM (asXVI)

138 Judy Greer will always be the mean 13 year old in 13 going on 30 to me

Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2025 09:09 PM (lCppi)

139 Caroline Munro

At least one Sinbad movie I can recall. And I think with Doug McClure in Land that Time Forgot. Dinosaurs, lost U-boat and castaways. What's not to like?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2025 09:10 PM (Ciygk)

140 back to the movie thread, Watchmen-the-comic had the "I'm not locked in here with you" scene related in an interview with the therapist. Snyder filmed the scene.
One of several decisions that made Snyder's vision superior to Moore's.

Posted by: don't get gKWVE started on the calamari at October 04, 2025 09:11 PM (gKWVE)

141 That, and the fact that Jackie Earle Haley just fucking nailed the character. Bro deserved an Oscar.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 04, 2025 09:12 PM (gKWVE)

142 What movie is "She came home last night and vibrated for an hour" from?

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2025 09:12 PM (vFG9F)

143 Judy Greer is the chick who's up for anything, and while young me would have said "Ah yeah," I would already have been looking for the exit. B'cuz, Nerd!

Spooky chick.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 09:13 PM (0aYVJ)

144 Mary Steenbergen?

Time After Time

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2025 09:13 PM (Ciygk)

145 Farscape was FAR better written with much better characters.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 08:59 PM (zZu0s)

And it had Claudia Black.

Posted by: Javems at October 04, 2025 09:14 PM (8I4hW)

146 which, by Minnesota law, she's required to apologize for.]

Just because they go skiing across lakes pulled by their dogs doesn't excuse not crushing the BLM rioters.

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2025 09:15 PM (FhXTo)

147 "Mary Steenbergen?

Time After Time
Posted by: Anna Puma "

Nope. The Ghost And Mr Chicken.

Posted by: fd at October 04, 2025 09:16 PM (vFG9F)

148 Claudia Black.

AHWOOO!

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2025 09:17 PM (FhXTo)

149 Minnesota got a new Chi Chis.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 04, 2025 09:19 PM (gjue8)

150 Farscape was a top-five all time great science fiction show.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 04, 2025 09:20 PM (CHHv1)

151 Claudia Black is one of those women who would terrify me in real life. Being an artist of sorts, she is strikingly beautiful. Sharp features, the kind of face that needs to be drawn with ink, or charcoal.

But if she were to hit on me, I would just kind of mutter some stuff, then run away.

then again, I would like the opportunity to test this.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 09:24 PM (0aYVJ)

152 Above video clip is from 1978's epic Space sci-fi adventure, Starcrash, starring Christopher Plummer and someone Munro, I forgot her fist name.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2025 09:00 PM (3B9GA)

And Christopher Plummer got annoyed about people bringing up The Sound of Music?

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 09:26 PM (144I4)

153
Caroline Munro

At least one Sinbad movie I can recall. And I think with Doug McClure in Land that Time Forgot. Dinosaurs, lost U-boat and castaways. What's not to like?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2025 09:10 PM (Ciygk)

Plus, she was a Bond villainess, one of the better ones.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 09:26 PM (FoIOl)

154 137 Thanks for the corrections/memory jogs, zigggggy!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:08 PM (asXVI)

heh happens to the best of us! Perhaps Carole Lombards death in a plane crash popped into your head?
I have been watching the Warner Oland Charlie Chan films , and even though I have seen them many times in my 50+ years, it had been awhile and was confusing who the bad guy was in several films...which...was actually kinda cool guessing wrong!

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 09:26 PM (/Pwrg)

155 But if she were to hit on me, I would just kind of mutter some stuff, then run away.

then again, I would like the opportunity to test this.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 09:24 PM

I briefly encountered a Gypsy woman once. She gave me a look that tingled my neither regions. I couldn't have run if I had wanted to.

Posted by: Javems at October 04, 2025 09:29 PM (8I4hW)

156 But if she were to hit on me, I would just kind of mutter some stuff, then run away.

I basically did this with a woman long ago. Not saying the possibilities still haunt me or anything.

Posted by: Shani at October 04, 2025 09:30 PM (tFsu8)

157 And Christopher Plummer got annoyed about people bringing up The Sound of Music?
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"Starcrash" was almost immediately forgotten. He died just as it was starting to re-emerge from the cultural primordial ooze.

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heh happens to the best of us! Perhaps Carole Lombards death in a plane crash popped into your head?
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Yes, I constantly mix the two up. (Not their roles, obviously, but their names and life details.)

Landis was pin-up material.

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I have been watching the Warner Oland Charlie Chan films , and even though I have seen them many times in my 50+ years, it had been awhile and was confusing who the bad guy was in several films...which...was actually kinda cool guessing wrong!
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That's one that's kinda been memory-holed. And there were some "Chan" knockoffs, too, I think. Certainly there were Fu Manchus running around. We had a real thing for (ersatz) Chinese culture back in the '30s.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:31 PM (asXVI)

158
150 Farscape was a top-five all time great science fiction show.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 04, 2025 09:20 PM (CHHv1)

And one of the few series of any genre which had a great ending which wrapped up almost all of the open plot lines. (Peacekeeper wars)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2025 09:37 PM (WZaJc)

159 Even 'The Shadow' was kind of bullshit Chinese mysticism.

The movie with Alex Baldwin could have been worse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 09:37 PM (zZu0s)

160 Now hold on, Peacekeepers wars is no where near what an actual final series would have been.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 09:37 PM (zZu0s)

161 The movie with Alex Baldwin could have been worse.
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Should've been better, though. It had a good look, IIRC, but I recall nothing else about it.

The '90s superhero rush was probably worse than the 2010s one, in terms of content.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:38 PM (asXVI)

162 There was more creativity in movies in the 1920s and 1930s than there is now obviously.

Posted by: Shani at October 04, 2025 09:38 PM (tFsu8)

163
Ever see I Wake Up Screaming? Quite interesting...Betty Grable and Victor Mature are the leads but Laird Cregar steals the film. Shame he died in 1944 (at the age of 30, looked mid 40s) And, IMHO, Carole Landis is better looking than Betty
Posted by: zigggggy

Ever see the "remake" of that called Vicki?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046515

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 04, 2025 09:40 PM (63Dwl)

164 Should've been better, though. It had a good look, IIRC, but I recall nothing else about it.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:38 PM (asXVI)

Mom loves the movie. It had a Rim Burton kind of feel to it. A bit too wacky for what they were trying to do.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 09:40 PM (zZu0s)

165 131
Above video clip is from 1978's epic Space sci-fi adventure, Starcrash, starring Christopher Plummer and someone Munro, I forgot her fist name.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 04, 2025 09:00 PM (3B9GA)

Caroline Munro; the store-brand Marilyn Monroe! ...Actually, that's not fair. Carline had a career beyond cheesecake b-movies. I think she was even a Bond-girl...

Posted by: Castle Guy at October 04, 2025 09:40 PM (Lhaco)

166 Gilligan's Island horror movie...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3yG8D1_6RY

Posted by: davidt at October 04, 2025 09:41 PM (i0F8b)

167 The '90s superhero rush was probably worse than the 2010s one, in terms of content.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:38 PM (asXVI)

I dunno. Rocketeer- which i love. Two really solid Spidermans. Two solid X-men movies.

Honestly, the K/D ratio is probably better in the 90s after all the marvel slop has massively hurt their average.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 04, 2025 09:42 PM (zZu0s)

168 Virtually every snow-bound movie turns into a survival thriller, just because of the setting. One recent and obscure snow film is Arctic, with Mads Mickelerikkitikkitavi as a bush pilot who's stranded in the tundra trying to survive in the wreckage of his plane. Great film, with one of my favorite aircraft, the AN-2 Colt biplane except that I'm annoyed that it's in the film as a pile of wreckage.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2025 07:51 PM (FoIOl)

I like Mads.

There was an arctic plane crash movie with Barry Pepper some years ago. I remember liking it.

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 09:44 PM (144I4)

169 You know what's weird? Run your hands over your head. Run your hands as you work your jaw.

There are skeletons inside us.

I may have had a cocktail or two.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 09:47 PM (0aYVJ)

170 There are skeletons inside us.

Posted by: Pug Mahon

Just in time for Halloween!

Posted by: haffhowershower at October 04, 2025 09:48 PM (144I4)

171 Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 09:47 PM

Cheers!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 04, 2025 09:52 PM (9ipOP)

172 I dunno. Rocketeer- which i love. Two really solid Spidermans. Two solid X-men movies.
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No solid Spider-men or X-men. Spider-man was 2002. X-Men was 2000. They're a different breed from the '90s run because they lean like hell on CGI.

That's my take, anyway.

I'm talking 1989 "Batman" to about 1997's "Batman & Robin".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:54 PM (asXVI)

173 46, it had one of the best trailers. They should do an academy award every 10 years or so for the best long form trailer.

Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2025 09:57 PM (haE0k)

174 Fun fact: not only does Frances McDormand have more Oscars than Meryl Streep, she has more Best Actress Oscars than Meryl Streep.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2025 09:57 PM (WJMvi)

175 he last survivor is given all the money and a wish. (An addition from the screenwriters—even Stephen King wouldn’t do something as a dumb as “you get a wish”. OK, I take that back, he totally would, but he didn’t think of it.)

From the wiki for the book: "The Walk continues until there is only one survivor, who can have whatever he wants for the rest of his life as his prize" (This sounds like I remember it. The book is buried somewhere in my basement.)

Posted by: Chuck C at October 04, 2025 09:58 PM (D0HYP)

176 "Black Mountain Side" is a good Winter horror film. Got its flaws, as they all do, but leaves an impact.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 04, 2025 09:59 PM (CHHv1)

177 I have been watching the Warner Oland Charlie Chan films , and even though I have seen them many times in my 50+ years, it had been awhile and was confusing who the bad guy was in several films...which...was actually kinda cool guessing wrong!
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That's one that's kinda been memory-holed. And there were some "Chan" knockoffs, too, I think. Certainly there were Fu Manchus running around. We had a real thing for (ersatz) Chinese culture back in the '30s.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 09:31 PM (asXVI)
If you ever have the desire, the Warner Oland films from say, 1936-to 1938 are his best (Racetrack and Olypics are standouts) and Sidney Toler from 1940 to 1942 (post 42 are Monogram instead of Fox and ugh) Charlie Chan in Panama is a film most anyone that likes classic films should like...

Mr Moto's with Peter Lorre , all 8 are worth checking out...
weird Austrian accent for a Japanese man though

Mr Wong with Karloff...well Monogram again...sigh

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 10:05 PM (/Pwrg)

178 174 Fun fact: not only does Frances McDormand have more Oscars than Meryl Streep, she has more Best Actress Oscars than Meryl Streep.

That puts a little bounce in MY step.

Thanks everyone for coming! See you in 3 weeks!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 10:07 PM (asXVI)

179 Mr Moto's with Peter Lorre , all 8 are worth checking out...
weird Austrian accent for a Japanese man though

Mr Wong with Karloff...well Monogram again...sigh
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Yes!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at October 04, 2025 10:08 PM (asXVI)

180 163
Ever see I Wake Up Screaming? Quite interesting...Betty Grable and Victor Mature are the leads but Laird Cregar steals the film. Shame he died in 1944 (at the age of 30, looked mid 40s) And, IMHO, Carole Landis is better looking than Betty
Posted by: zigggggy

Ever see the "remake" of that called Vicki?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046515

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 04, 2025 09:40 PM (63Dwl)

wow, have heard of Vicki, but had no idea it was a remake! Fox usually did pretty well with remakes...

Posted by: zigggggy at October 04, 2025 10:08 PM (/Pwrg)

181 Fun fact: not only does Frances McDormand have more Oscars than Meryl Streep, she has more Best Actress Oscars than Meryl Streep.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2025 09:57 PM (WJMvi)

That's because Frances is so relatable. And she is a far better actor. And she is not all het up with herself.

Meryl Streep is yucky, and her name is stupid. I think Clint Eastwood asked her one time if she was gonna do one of her stupid accents. Britches of Madison County.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at October 04, 2025 10:11 PM (0aYVJ)

182 I'm now entering Year 7 of Hoyt refusing to retract her lies about my military service as a Marine.

It's really shitty that I have to fight this alone, but fine. Whatever it takes. It just makes all this seem so fake and pointless.

Even if Trump manages to save the Republic its just going to unravel again. Because a People who won't stand up for those who fight for them no longer have the values necessary to maintain a Republic.

Sorry to be a downer, I've just taken alot of sht over this today and its got me really depressed.

Posted by: Fenrisulven6 at October 04, 2025 10:16 PM (ciYHQ)

183 I read the novel of The Long Walk when King first published the collection of four novels The Bachman Books in the '80s. A fascinating concept, but the book seems a little long and a bit dull. I'm not terribly interested in seeing this adaptation.

My volume, the large trade paperback, has the novel Getting It On. King cut that novel from later editions because it features a protagonist who, armed with what the media calls an assault rifle, takes his high school class hostage after shooting their teacher. King makes his nutty teen kind of, well, relatable in a weird way.

The Running Man is in the collection, along with a non-SF novel about a man having a mid-life crisis amid the gas crisis of the early '70s. I tried rereading it during the Sniffle Scare since I had so few new books. Lost interest in it halfway through, even those I was much closer in age to the protagonist than I was when I read the novel (Roadwork) in '85.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2025 10:25 PM (omVj0)

184 >>Even if Trump manages to save the Republic its just going to unravel again

Trump isn't going to save anything. America as founded was lost post WW2. It ain't coming back.

Posted by: Shani at October 04, 2025 10:28 PM (tFsu8)

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