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Unhelpful in the Battle Against Socialism’s Growing Appeal: Sherwin Williams Eliminates Employees’ 401(k) Match Amidst Stock Buybacks and Increased CEO Compensation
“Sherwin-Williams said to pause 401(k) matching as macro headwinds dent sales” [MSN / Seeking Alpha – 9/17/2025]
Sherwin-Williams will temporarily suspend its matching contributions to employee 401(k) plans due to weak sales and higher costs, Cleveland.com reported this month, citing an internal communication. The suspension will apply to the paint manufacturer's policy of matching 100% of the first 6% of eligible employee 401(k) contributions, starting October 1. CEO Heidi Petz said the decision was a result of high mortgage rates weakening housing demand and inflation reducing DIY demand. Tariff policies also dented industrial demand and raised costs for the company. "Sherwin-Williams is not immune from these conditions, which have lasted longer and been more impactful than anticipated," Petz said, adding that macroeconomic headwinds will likely persist through at least the first half of 2026. The company has also taken up cost-saving measures such as reducing third-party spending, delaying new hires and restructuring global assets.I’ve read several news reports about the financial headwinds forcing Sherwin to cut employees’ compensation via suspension of the 401(k) match, but I have not been able to find any documentation of “cost savings” to be realized by giving a haircut to executive bonus plans. Neither have I been able to find any reporting that stock buybacks are being suspended to conserve cash. Whenever I discuss executive pay, I receive some pushback arguing that stock incentives are not an expense, and therefore do not affect a company’s profit. That’s true. Executive stock incentives come from diluting the ownership of existing shareholders and redistributing it to company executives. But when a company uses its cash to buy back shares, and then it awards stock shares to its executives, it is a two-step distribution of the company’s cash and equity to its executives.
Our friends at the Heartland Institute recently released a very disturbing poll indicating that socialism is becoming increasingly popular among young voters:
Heartland/Rasmussen Poll: 53% of Young Voters Want a Socialist to Win the 2028 Presidential Election, 76% Want Government to Nationalize Major U.S. Industries [Heartland Institute – 9/04/2025]Additionally, 76% of respondents said they “strongly agree” or “somewhat agree” that “Major Industries like health care, energy, and big tech should be nationalized to give more control and equity to the people,” suggesting that increasingly more young American voters favor radical socialist policies.In case my persistent bashing of woke corporations and rapacious executives causes any misunderstanding, please know that I am a passionate capitalist / free marketeer. I detest socialism and communism. What bothers me is how many corporate executives do not share my passion. Too many executives seek oligopolistic barriers to competition, regulatory favor, and labor laws that allow them to use foreign labor that is chattel-adjacent. Many executives also see their companies as a pool of wealth that they are entitled to tap into for personal self-enrichment. The open contempt that much of corporate America expresses for American labor and labor expense is dangerous. If we don’t want young Americans getting seduced by the appeal of socialism, we can’t have corporate executives re-allocating employees’ retirement benefits toward uses that will personally benefit those executives. In a free market economy, CEOs like Heidi Petz have the ability (with the pliant acquiescence of their Boards) to loot their own companies and cut employee pay and benefits. But just because they can, doesn’t mean they should. Similarly, voters have the option of casting their ballots for candidates who will nationalize corporations and also loot them. Just because they can, doesn’t mean they should do so either. But the scary part is that they can vote to impose socialism. The job for those of us defending capitalism from the siren song of socialism is made much harder by executives who feel entitled to ever-growing 8-figure compensation, irrespective of their companies’ results, and made worse by their attitude that employees and labor expense are a pestilence that reduces executive bonuses.
In return, those banks gave the government preferred stock, which didn’t have voting rights either – but did give the government first dibs on dividends and liquidation. That’s ownership. Even better, Bush’s Treasury also demanded warrants — rights to convert into common stock down the line. If Trump had exercised those warrants in his first term, the federal government could have taken actual equity in Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, and the rest.The piece is behind a paywall, buy if you’re a Blaze subscriber, I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.
My latest piece at The Blaze has been published: “If Intel Gets Government Cash, Taxpayers Deserve Equity”
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) September 30, 2025
Biden granted Intel $8.9B, Trump responded by taking 10% ownership. If we don’t want government ownership in corps, let’s also stop the handouts. https://t.co/UxqW9wm4Md
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 11:00 AM (JnEe8)
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Corgis called
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 11:00 AM (JnEe8)
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nd
Posted by: Admirale's Mate at October 03, 2025 11:00 AM (sMkAM)
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th
Posted by: Polka will never die at October 03, 2025 11:01 AM (h8WaN)
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Hitting F5 like a coke addicted spider monkey
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 11:01 AM (JnEe8)
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They ate working on that, we might be the last of the Free Men
Posted by: Skip at October 03, 2025 11:01 AM (xatjc)
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They can just paint over their issues, right?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 03, 2025 11:02 AM (Q4IgG)
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Willowed:
"Gilligan's Island 2: Dawn Wells of the Dead"
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I think Tina Louise is the only surviving member of that cast.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 10:59 AM (WDjG6)
Well. horror movies always have a "last girl".
Call me, Hollywood!!!
"Gilligan's Island 2: Dawn Wells of the Dead"
Posted by: naturalfake
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I think Tina Louise is the only surviving member of that cast.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 10:59 AM (WDjG6)
Well. horror movies always have a "last girl".
Call me, Hollywood!!!
Posted by: naturalfake at October 03, 2025 11:02 AM (iJfKG)
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Wow, that's a lot of posts already
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:03 AM (zjgNU)
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I have to admit that US corporations really make me consider the lefty argument that max executive compensation should be limited to some reasonable multiple of worker compensation.
Given that most executives are functionally retarded and a significant fraction are now Indian, the argument about attracting talent seems questionable.
Given that most executives are functionally retarded and a significant fraction are now Indian, the argument about attracting talent seems questionable.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:04 AM (ExV1e)
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I’ve never worked for a company that matched 401k until my current employer. This is the first time I worked for megacorp. Before that it was small businesses.
I’m meh about this. Employers are not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
I’m meh about this. Employers are not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 03, 2025 11:04 AM (wrRTB)
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Executives of a lot of big companies don't give a crap about their customers (see the Bud Light debacle), but even less about their employees.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:06 AM (77rzZ)
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I had a discussion earlier this year with a friend whose company paid out about a third of their ten percent bonus to those eligible, due to 'economic headwinds'. Fortunately for the executive team at that company, the headwinds did not prevent the C suite team from achieving their 150% bonus.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:06 AM (0U5gm)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2025 11:06 AM (GbwPZ)
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Morning, everyone!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 03, 2025 11:07 AM (u73oe)
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The boards are *very* much to blame for this. Which has been the case for decades. Is there any way to make them take actual responsibilities instead of just being mutual appreciation societies?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 03, 2025 11:07 AM (lFFaq)
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"What bothers me is how many corporate executives do not share my passion. Too many executives seek oligopolistic barriers to competition, regulatory favor, and labor laws that allow them to use foreign labor that is chattel-adjacent. Many executives also see their companies as a pool of wealth that they are entitled to tap into for personal self-enrichment."
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
Posted by: Adam Smith at 11:00 AM, 1776
There is nothing new under the sun. (Yeah, that's from Solomon, but I'm not digging back to 700BC to find the post)
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
Posted by: Adam Smith at 11:00 AM, 1776
There is nothing new under the sun. (Yeah, that's from Solomon, but I'm not digging back to 700BC to find the post)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:07 AM (zjgNU)
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)
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So we are going to hell in a handbasket?
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
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In a weak defense of those who preferred "socialism" in that Heartland poll, it's a good bet that very few of them understand what Socialism actually is. And they've been sitting in classrooms most of their lives hearing idiot teachers and professors say "ooh, capitalism BAD, socialism GOOD!"
It's our fault as much as theirs that they think that - we've failed them by allowing our education system to become so massively corrupted.
It's our fault as much as theirs that they think that - we've failed them by allowing our education system to become so massively corrupted.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (uWKK8)
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I'm expecting my local Sherwin-Williams store to go belly up any day. Always liked their paint and have an account there. There were always two employees there at all times, now only one. The hours are down to 8 to 4, weekdays only. Not open weekends at all. Stock seems to be scarce, too. It can't go on like this. Nice that the lady CEO continues to prosper, though.
Posted by: Cover the Earth at October 03, 2025 11:09 AM (oftw2)
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Paint it black.
Posted by: Kingsman at October 03, 2025 11:09 AM (ehY6c)
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Google's argument is that Creationists are idiots because scientists themselves debunked Piltdown Man. After 40 years.
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40 years is lightning fast compared to their debunking of global warming which we're still waiting on.
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40 years is lightning fast compared to their debunking of global warming which we're still waiting on.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
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11 I’ve never worked for a company that matched 401k until my current employer. This is the first time I worked for megacorp. Before that it was small businesses.
I’m meh about this. Employers are not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Actually if a company offers its executives retirement options, then they are bound to offer those to workers. Quite often the whole offering of options and warrants are the equivalent to 401ks except not offered to the workers.
So if you want to tax all wages, salaries and ancillary benefits like company cars, private jets, deferred compensation, etc. accruing to top management, then it would be more an apples to apples comparison.
In reality, in publicly held firms, the top executive level and board act more like looters than sober fiduciary guardians of shareholder equity.
I’m meh about this. Employers are not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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Actually if a company offers its executives retirement options, then they are bound to offer those to workers. Quite often the whole offering of options and warrants are the equivalent to 401ks except not offered to the workers.
So if you want to tax all wages, salaries and ancillary benefits like company cars, private jets, deferred compensation, etc. accruing to top management, then it would be more an apples to apples comparison.
In reality, in publicly held firms, the top executive level and board act more like looters than sober fiduciary guardians of shareholder equity.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:10 AM (WDjG6)
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Mornin'. How's your health today?
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)
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Feel like I been rode hard and put away wet, but I’m on the mend.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)
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Feel like I been rode hard and put away wet, but I’m on the mend.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 03, 2025 11:10 AM (u73oe)
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Maybe they need a new logo.
Posted by: Julie Masino at October 03, 2025 11:10 AM (Q1uY4)
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As irritating as the purchase of stock in Intel may be, it is better than the alternative, which is a simple grant or tax break.
Hopefully the administration will sell the stake as quickly as possible, make a few bucks, and stop doing stupid shit like involving itself in the equity markets.
I thought the Fed was the only part of government stupid enough to do that!
Hopefully the administration will sell the stake as quickly as possible, make a few bucks, and stop doing stupid shit like involving itself in the equity markets.
I thought the Fed was the only part of government stupid enough to do that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at October 03, 2025 11:11 AM (n9ltV)
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Stock seems to be scarce, too. It can't go on like this. Nice that the lady CEO continues to prosper, though.
Posted by: Cover the Earth
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I think Sherwin Williams bought Valspar a few years ago and is the defacto paint now of Lowes. Sherwin Williams used to be the private label supplier of Sears when it actually had a paint section back in the day.
Posted by: Cover the Earth
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I think Sherwin Williams bought Valspar a few years ago and is the defacto paint now of Lowes. Sherwin Williams used to be the private label supplier of Sears when it actually had a paint section back in the day.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:11 AM (WDjG6)
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Our problem isn't the attitude of businessmen. They've been selfish since time began.
Our problem is the massive governmental interference that discriminates against small businesses and gives a massive advantage to large businesses. Complying with the myriad of regulations in this country means that the larger you are, the more the cost of compliance is diluted. (There are many other and most benefit large business, including lobbying to make it that way.)
The larger the business is, the more the opportunity for grift, the more people getting screwed by short-sighted executives, the more people think government is the answer when government is the problem.
We need to do everything we can to encourage smaller businesses, but it will take a lot of pain to get to that point.
Our problem is the massive governmental interference that discriminates against small businesses and gives a massive advantage to large businesses. Complying with the myriad of regulations in this country means that the larger you are, the more the cost of compliance is diluted. (There are many other and most benefit large business, including lobbying to make it that way.)
The larger the business is, the more the opportunity for grift, the more people getting screwed by short-sighted executives, the more people think government is the answer when government is the problem.
We need to do everything we can to encourage smaller businesses, but it will take a lot of pain to get to that point.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:12 AM (zjgNU)
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I’ve never understood why companies would ever want to increase the stock price and use it as incentive for the executives. It makes future stock buy backs more expensive.
Only real benefit would be if you were planning on selling more shares in the future, you would raise more capital then.
Only real benefit would be if you were planning on selling more shares in the future, you would raise more capital then.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:12 AM (09LSL)
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (77rzZ)
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I assumed r/socialism must have something on the surge in youth support of socialism to share and mock...but the first several posts are all about Gaza lol. Fucking Lefties...
This rise of the extremist youth has REALLY put the mainstream Establishment Dems in a tough spot. They KNOW it won't sell in most elections nationally, but if they piss off the extremist too much, they might stay home (as Kamala discovered). Trying to thread that needle is very difficult.
Dem leaders in New York STILL are hesitant to vocally support Mamdani, instead saying things like "I support Democrats selected through our primary system". They don't want to say his name.
This rise of the extremist youth has REALLY put the mainstream Establishment Dems in a tough spot. They KNOW it won't sell in most elections nationally, but if they piss off the extremist too much, they might stay home (as Kamala discovered). Trying to thread that needle is very difficult.
Dem leaders in New York STILL are hesitant to vocally support Mamdani, instead saying things like "I support Democrats selected through our primary system". They don't want to say his name.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (JCZqz)
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Back in the Go Go days of NYC Post Production, companies used to do a 1 to 1 401k match, those days are over.
Typical matches are anywhere from 5 to 10 pct.
Typical matches are anywhere from 5 to 10 pct.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (XV/Pl)
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Employers are not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 03, 2025 11:04 AM (wrRTB)
How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 03, 2025 11:04 AM (wrRTB)
How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
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***With revenue and profit stuck,...[since 2023]***
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Considering from 2023 we've, in some cases, experienced ~50% inflation and exorbitant inflation everywhere plus a ruined housing market (they paint new houses) one might surmise that Sherwin Williams has taken a big hit over the last three years.
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Considering from 2023 we've, in some cases, experienced ~50% inflation and exorbitant inflation everywhere plus a ruined housing market (they paint new houses) one might surmise that Sherwin Williams has taken a big hit over the last three years.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (KOTyL)
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The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
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Behr it is.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 03, 2025 11:14 AM (br5o2)
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I blame vinyl siding.
Posted by: pudinhead at October 03, 2025 11:14 AM (NBPRu)
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Hopefully the administration will sell the stake as quickly as possible, make a few bucks, and stop doing stupid shit like involving itself in the equity markets.
I thought the Fed was the only part of government stupid enough to do that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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There are some things more important than purist capitalism--and manufacturing chips is a strategic imperative just as having aircraft, pharmaceutical, petroleum, mining, and other key industries kept running in the US.
If you want to bitch about something, bitch about the evil hold that State Street, Blackrock, and Vanguard do with voting investor stocks toward DEI, climate change, and other noxious philosophies from the WEF villains.
I thought the Fed was the only part of government stupid enough to do that!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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There are some things more important than purist capitalism--and manufacturing chips is a strategic imperative just as having aircraft, pharmaceutical, petroleum, mining, and other key industries kept running in the US.
If you want to bitch about something, bitch about the evil hold that State Street, Blackrock, and Vanguard do with voting investor stocks toward DEI, climate change, and other noxious philosophies from the WEF villains.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:14 AM (WDjG6)
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IS IT TIME TO RANT ABOUT THE OLIGARCHS YET!?!??!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (JCZqz)
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The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
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Can't be. Newsom told the oil companies out here to start digging again.
The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
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Can't be. Newsom told the oil companies out here to start digging again.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (Q1uY4)
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34 Employers are not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 03, 2025 11:04 AM (wrRTB)
How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Agreeing with the antagonist. It's comparing apple and oranges.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 03, 2025 11:04 AM (wrRTB)
How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Agreeing with the antagonist. It's comparing apple and oranges.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (KOTyL)
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So we are going to hell in a handbasket?
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
Ever since David Lee Roth left Van Halen.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
Ever since David Lee Roth left Van Halen.
Posted by: Binkley at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (6q6Aq)
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The larger the business is, the more the opportunity for grift, the more people getting screwed by short-sighted executives, the more people think government is the answer when government is the problem.
We need to do everything we can to encourage smaller businesses, but it will take a lot of pain to get to that point.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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I totally agree.
We need to do everything we can to encourage smaller businesses, but it will take a lot of pain to get to that point.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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I totally agree.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (WDjG6)
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Feel like I been rode hard and put away wet, but I’m on the mend.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Well, good. Keep on mending.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Well, good. Keep on mending.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (Q1uY4)
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It is a shame that short term thinking dominates most companies these days, with all energy focused on hitting metrics for the next quarter, and no thought about five years from now.
What that does is give credence to the socialists, and the socialists still have not figured out, over two centuries later, that socialism does not work economically.
Socialism is a net negative financial system. It cannot produce wealth, only erode it. Socialist systems always strip mine the environment for cash, and eventually rely on slave labor to perpetuate the lie as long as possible, until they inevitably collapse.
What that does is give credence to the socialists, and the socialists still have not figured out, over two centuries later, that socialism does not work economically.
Socialism is a net negative financial system. It cannot produce wealth, only erode it. Socialist systems always strip mine the environment for cash, and eventually rely on slave labor to perpetuate the lie as long as possible, until they inevitably collapse.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (0U5gm)
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The fire is contained.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:16 AM (KOTyL)
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Capitalism is superior to any economic system but large corporations? Executives at those places don’t believe in competition… they want guvt subsidies and short term incentives and really couldn’t care less about long term company health…. Most of those corps for instance mandated the clot shot for their employees… soft fascism in action
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 03, 2025 11:16 AM (lepZb)
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Feel like I been rode hard and put away wet, but I’m on the mend.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 03, 2025 11:10 AM
Elizabeth Arden hand creme. Good for what ails thee.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 03, 2025 11:10 AM
Elizabeth Arden hand creme. Good for what ails thee.
Posted by: Prince Harry at October 03, 2025 11:16 AM (0sNs1)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 03, 2025 11:16 AM (JnEe8)
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Agreeing with the antagonist. It's comparing apple and oranges.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (KOTyL)
Apples, oranges, and cat food will be what we’re eating in retirement.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (KOTyL)
Apples, oranges, and cat food will be what we’re eating in retirement.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:16 AM (09LSL)
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How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (JCZqz)
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I'd like to hear Buck's take on the refinery explosion.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
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The phony baloney financials, currency, and government grifters have turned “The Economy” into a distorted Fun House mirror on Acid.
Little wonder young people are ready to burn it down. As Bobby Zimmerman once said ….
Little wonder young people are ready to burn it down. As Bobby Zimmerman once said ….
Posted by: Common Tater at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (0Dsks)
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I had a discussion earlier this year with a friend whose company paid out about a third of their ten percent bonus to those eligible, due to 'economic headwinds'. Fortunately for the executive team at that company, the headwinds did not prevent the C suite team from achieving their 150% bonus.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:06 AM (0U5gm)
Years ago, during the 2008 recession, the employees at my company were required to take a 5% paycut but... all the executives took the paycut 3 months earlier and the money was automatically restored once the crisis was over.
Sadly, that company no longer exists as the founder retired and was replaced by finance bros until it was bought by a larger company.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:06 AM (0U5gm)
Years ago, during the 2008 recession, the employees at my company were required to take a 5% paycut but... all the executives took the paycut 3 months earlier and the money was automatically restored once the crisis was over.
Sadly, that company no longer exists as the founder retired and was replaced by finance bros until it was bought by a larger company.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)
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Ooops, Portland!
@nicksortor
🚨 BREAKING: Attorney General Pam Bondi has ORDERED a full investigation, led by Asst. AG Harmeet Dhillon, of the Portland Police Bureau, following my wrongful arrest last night, Bondi confirmed to me.
FAFO, @PortlandPolice
@AGPamBondi personally called me to deliver this news, and I’m incredibly grateful to her for doing so.
The Trump DOJ WILL NOT allow Portland Police to continue to do the bidding of Antifa.
@nicksortor
🚨 BREAKING: Attorney General Pam Bondi has ORDERED a full investigation, led by Asst. AG Harmeet Dhillon, of the Portland Police Bureau, following my wrongful arrest last night, Bondi confirmed to me.
FAFO, @PortlandPolice
@AGPamBondi personally called me to deliver this news, and I’m incredibly grateful to her for doing so.
The Trump DOJ WILL NOT allow Portland Police to continue to do the bidding of Antifa.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (GbwPZ)
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46 38 I blame vinyl siding.
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When I look at vinyl siding it's like I'm staring right through it into rotting wood.
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When I look at vinyl siding it's like I'm staring right through it into rotting wood.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (KOTyL)
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40 IS IT TIME TO RANT ABOUT THE OLIGARCHS YET!?!??!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders
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You will find our founding fathers actually did not want the sort of monopoly capitalism that Britain had at the time. Might want to take a gander reading Dr. Bonham's Case opinion by Lord Coke as well.
Posted by: Bernie Sanders
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You will find our founding fathers actually did not want the sort of monopoly capitalism that Britain had at the time. Might want to take a gander reading Dr. Bonham's Case opinion by Lord Coke as well.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (WDjG6)
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:12 AM (zjgNU)
Very true. We've had a de facto fascist economic system for quite a while. Naturally, the administration that is trying to roll that back is getting accused of fascism.
Very true. We've had a de facto fascist economic system for quite a while. Naturally, the administration that is trying to roll that back is getting accused of fascism.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 03, 2025 11:18 AM (lFFaq)
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32 I assumed r/socialism must have something on the surge in youth support of socialism to share and mock...but the first several posts are all about Gaza lol. Fucking Lefties...
This rise of the extremist youth has REALLY put the mainstream Establishment Dems in a tough spot. They KNOW it won't sell in most elections nationally, but if they piss off the extremist too much, they might stay home (as Kamala discovered). Trying to thread that needle is very difficult.
Dem leaders in New York STILL are hesitant to vocally support Mamdani, instead saying things like "I support Democrats selected through our primary system". They don't want to say his name.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (JCZqz)
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I think they're afraid of Twitter (to coin a bon mot reductionist way of putting it).
Being afraid of the trolls on the internet over being afraid of the electoral might of the working class is just inherently stupid.
Enforce the law in their own enclaves. Close the border. Enhance welfare for Americans only. Boom, they'll win elections without that much trouble again.
This rise of the extremist youth has REALLY put the mainstream Establishment Dems in a tough spot. They KNOW it won't sell in most elections nationally, but if they piss off the extremist too much, they might stay home (as Kamala discovered). Trying to thread that needle is very difficult.
Dem leaders in New York STILL are hesitant to vocally support Mamdani, instead saying things like "I support Democrats selected through our primary system". They don't want to say his name.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (JCZqz)
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I think they're afraid of Twitter (to coin a bon mot reductionist way of putting it).
Being afraid of the trolls on the internet over being afraid of the electoral might of the working class is just inherently stupid.
Enforce the law in their own enclaves. Close the border. Enhance welfare for Americans only. Boom, they'll win elections without that much trouble again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:18 AM (GBKbO)
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So we are going to hell in a handbasket?
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
Helena is steering. Ask her.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:08 AM (NFX2v)
Helena is steering. Ask her.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:18 AM (ExV1e)
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Elizabeth Arden hand creme. Good for what ails thee.
Posted by: Prince Harry
Just rub it on while thinking of mother. Oooo, yeah. O, mother! MOTHER!!!! 🍆💦
Posted by: Prince Harry
Just rub it on while thinking of mother. Oooo, yeah. O, mother! MOTHER!!!! 🍆💦
Posted by: Prince Harry at October 03, 2025 11:18 AM (JCZqz)
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So we are going to hell in a handbasket?
Posted by: L - No nic
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Does she know we're coming?
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM
And The Barrel's coming with us?
Posted by: L - No nic
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Does she know we're coming?
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM
And The Barrel's coming with us?
Posted by: zombie Wyatt Earp at October 03, 2025 11:18 AM (0sNs1)
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Sherwin Williams has just announced that it is suspending its 401(k) matching program, which matched employee retirement contributions at an amount up to 6% of an employee’s pay. This is expected to save the company about $165 million per year.
Meanwhile, Sherwin Williams has also flushed away $892 million on stock buybacks in the first two quarters of 2025 to prop up its stock price, a move which is critically important for Sherwin executives, whose compensation is heavily based on stock awards and the performance of its stock.
It's a bold plan, let's see how it works out for them.
Meanwhile, Sherwin Williams has also flushed away $892 million on stock buybacks in the first two quarters of 2025 to prop up its stock price, a move which is critically important for Sherwin executives, whose compensation is heavily based on stock awards and the performance of its stock.
It's a bold plan, let's see how it works out for them.
Posted by: toby928 is this a trope? at October 03, 2025 11:19 AM (o9/HH)
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I remember in the 80s and 90s when all good paint stores had a lady decorator with vast books of wall paper samples. Now everyone paints walls in boring white, light grays, with maybe an accent wall with a contrasting color. Wall covering is only in doctors office waiting rooms, hallways, and hospital common areas.
Posted by: Paste-eating Joe at October 03, 2025 11:19 AM (oftw2)
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My company went into Receivership in 2002. Though they kept the 401k they did away with the matching contributions. I chose to remain for the next 22 years anyway until they went into liquidation. I figured I lost about 160k not changing jobs but I made up 3/4 of it by getting a year’s severance package.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:19 AM (EYmYM)
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Yeah the execs do not cover themselves in glory, certainly. It is very hard to point to an exec that makes clear decisions that further a company's progress. Maybe many do, but quietly, in a slow methodical unremarkable way that is boring to report. Or others do, but it's in a field like health insurance where it is easy to build an antagonistic relationship with the public. Or a very visible person like Musk, but he's kind of a flake.
Posted by: banana Dream at October 03, 2025 11:20 AM (3uBP9)
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I’ve never understood why companies would ever want to increase the stock price and use it as incentive for the executives.
Probably because the executives are the ones deciding.
Probably because the executives are the ones deciding.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
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Am I wrong in thinking that these corporate policies were at least somewhat the result of government regulations and laws? I mean, the SEC has a hand in preventing insider trading, for example.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just wondering at October 03, 2025 11:20 AM (Wt5PA)
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There is nothing new under the sun. (Yeah, that's from Solomon, but I'm not digging back to 700BC to find the post)
It'll be a dead link to minx.bc.
It'll be a dead link to minx.bc.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 11:21 AM (3nLb4)
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SW charges too much now for a gallon of paint. If they raise prices it would compound their problems when sales goes down .
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 03, 2025 11:21 AM (GU6lg)
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40 IS IT TIME TO RANT ABOUT THE OLIGARCHS YET!?!??!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders
You and your fellow cocksucker progressives take mad campaign contributions from the oligarchs in return for enabling them to continue enriching themselves. So kindly go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Bernie Sanders
You and your fellow cocksucker progressives take mad campaign contributions from the oligarchs in return for enabling them to continue enriching themselves. So kindly go fuck yourself.
Posted by: There's a reason BigCorp funds Democrats at October 03, 2025 11:21 AM (TbWk/)
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SCOTUS takes a 2A case. Grants Cert in Wolford vs HI. This is a big deal because it addresses the Blue states "Vampire Rules" (You can only come in if invited) that prohibit Concealed Carry unless the owner of a business specifically allows you to enter. In most states businesses may prohibit entry to Concealed Carry, in the Blue states NY, CA, HI etc they turn that upside down and invoke the Vampire Rule toward lawful carrying.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 03, 2025 11:22 AM (Da7Vv)
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Good morning everybody
Trump posted a music video, it is a cover, but a nice tune
(X link - not Truth)
https://tinyurl.com/cys7m2zx
Trump posted a music video, it is a cover, but a nice tune
(X link - not Truth)
https://tinyurl.com/cys7m2zx
Posted by: Kindltot at October 03, 2025 11:22 AM (rbvCR)
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How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (JCZqz)
Can’t tell if you’re joking but it’s a fact that I’ve paid a nontrivial part of my salary into SS for decades. I may not like that program philosophically but it took a lot of my $$…. For me to not get benefits would be absolutely wrong. I have other retirement accounts but still… I’m not uber rich
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (JCZqz)
Can’t tell if you’re joking but it’s a fact that I’ve paid a nontrivial part of my salary into SS for decades. I may not like that program philosophically but it took a lot of my $$…. For me to not get benefits would be absolutely wrong. I have other retirement accounts but still… I’m not uber rich
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 03, 2025 11:22 AM (OW907)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 03, 2025 11:22 AM (GU6lg)
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I'd suck their brains out with a straw, sell the widows and orphans and go into south american zinc...
I'd suck their brains out with a straw, sell the widows and orphans and go into south american zinc...
Posted by: City Gent at October 03, 2025 11:23 AM (WKIwd)
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My new house used Sherwin Williams. The builder gave me a free gallon of interior paint for touch up. I bought a gallon of exterior on my own and was shocked at the cost.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:23 AM (EYmYM)
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How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters
I have to laugh at those who say that social security is their money. The supreme court in 1934 ruled that social security is just a tax and that nobody is entitled to any payments from it. It was the original version of "It's a tax."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters
I have to laugh at those who say that social security is their money. The supreme court in 1934 ruled that social security is just a tax and that nobody is entitled to any payments from it. It was the original version of "It's a tax."
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:24 AM (0U5gm)
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The only thing that makes sense regarding the shutdown is that Dems are hoping it helps the VA governor race. It might. I dunno. That's probably why everyone's pushing polling saying that Republicans are to blame (while Democrats are doing exactly what Republicans did in 2013 when everyone blamed Republicans...whatever don't care).
But that's like bunting with two outs, a runner on third who may score, and already down by at least 5.
All while your bullpen has used up every reliever and you've sent in your third basemen to pitch the next inning.
Trump is going to homer endlessly in the next inning as he uses the authority granted him in the Antideficiency Act to keep the government solvent, and he's not going to be playing smallball.
But that's like bunting with two outs, a runner on third who may score, and already down by at least 5.
All while your bullpen has used up every reliever and you've sent in your third basemen to pitch the next inning.
Trump is going to homer endlessly in the next inning as he uses the authority granted him in the Antideficiency Act to keep the government solvent, and he's not going to be playing smallball.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:25 AM (GBKbO)
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Socialism is a net negative financial system. It cannot produce wealth, only erode it. Socialist systems always strip mine the environment for cash, and eventually rely on slave labor to perpetuate the lie as long as possible, until they inevitably collapse.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Agree. Socialism is unworkable because people are no angels. But likewise monopoly capitalism is not workable because wealthy people are often just as much of bastards with their own self interests as poor people.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Agree. Socialism is unworkable because people are no angels. But likewise monopoly capitalism is not workable because wealthy people are often just as much of bastards with their own self interests as poor people.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
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Can’t tell if you’re joking but it’s a fact that I’ve paid a nontrivial part of my salary into SS for decades. I may not like that program philosophically but it took a lot of my $$…. For me to not get benefits would be absolutely wrong.
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Besides government, what organization can take your money at gunpoint to "invest," and then go all Otter on its customers?
"You fucked up. You trusted us!"
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Besides government, what organization can take your money at gunpoint to "invest," and then go all Otter on its customers?
"You fucked up. You trusted us!"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:26 AM (Q1uY4)
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All that new fangled latex paint is crap anyway. It’s got water in it for crying out loud. I’m trying to protect my siding from water.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:26 AM (09LSL)
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I’m over 29 so I remember when all the big companies had pension plans. 401ks basically did away with them. Unless you’re in a union .
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:26 AM (EYmYM)
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Agreeing with the antagonist. It's comparing apple and oranges.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (KOTyL)
I'm betting the yoots don't see it that way. Many of them believe that Boomers are sitting on a pile of wealth, Scrooge McDuck style, and it irritates them. The thing about voting, though, is that heart doesn't need to be pure or your mind right... you just need enough people to agree with you in order to make a change.
It's the thing that always bothers me about the "surrender not one inch of America to the ~50% that disagrees with me, they have to leave" or "I'm getting what's mine and fuck everyone else" mindset. You're setting yourself up for a fall.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:15 AM (KOTyL)
I'm betting the yoots don't see it that way. Many of them believe that Boomers are sitting on a pile of wealth, Scrooge McDuck style, and it irritates them. The thing about voting, though, is that heart doesn't need to be pure or your mind right... you just need enough people to agree with you in order to make a change.
It's the thing that always bothers me about the "surrender not one inch of America to the ~50% that disagrees with me, they have to leave" or "I'm getting what's mine and fuck everyone else" mindset. You're setting yourself up for a fall.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:26 AM (ExV1e)
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But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (JCZqz)
If we don't stop Obama care this will be the same argument that even people that agree with us will use. I paid into it I want my bennies.
But, I already contributed to the lockbox? My money has been invested and managed by the government, so I'm just getting it back. New worker contributions aren't involved!
Posted by: Normie Voters at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (JCZqz)
If we don't stop Obama care this will be the same argument that even people that agree with us will use. I paid into it I want my bennies.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 11:27 AM (vZUXb)
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Our friends at the Heartland Institute recently released a very disturbing poll indicating that socialism is becoming increasingly popular among young voters:
The young always imagine themselves as the commissars and never the kulaks. They should prepare for disappoint and a bullet in the brain but mostly, the bullet thing.
The young always imagine themselves as the commissars and never the kulaks. They should prepare for disappoint and a bullet in the brain but mostly, the bullet thing.
Posted by: toby928 is this a trope? at October 03, 2025 11:27 AM (o9/HH)
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Trump is going to homer endlessly in the next inning as he uses the authority granted him in the Antideficiency Act to keep the government solvent, and he's not going to be playing smallball.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Apparently Trump and Co have been planning their response for awhile figuring that the Dems would try to shut things down since at least when the BBB passed. Maybe since March. Meanwhile the appointment logjam is being broken up now with more executive appointments getting voted on en masse while the Senate Dems dither on whether to end the shutdown or not.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Apparently Trump and Co have been planning their response for awhile figuring that the Dems would try to shut things down since at least when the BBB passed. Maybe since March. Meanwhile the appointment logjam is being broken up now with more executive appointments getting voted on en masse while the Senate Dems dither on whether to end the shutdown or not.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:27 AM (WDjG6)
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Socialists demanded Women run everything for a very good reason... To destroy us and replace us.....
Posted by: Fisht at October 03, 2025 11:27 AM (BHEHK)
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All that new fangled latex paint is crap anyway. It’s got water in it for crying out loud. I’m trying to protect my siding from water.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:26 AM (09LSL)
It’s acrylic which is not bad but it’s still not as durable as oil.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:26 AM (09LSL)
It’s acrylic which is not bad but it’s still not as durable as oil.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:28 AM (EYmYM)
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It is a shame that short term thinking dominates most companies these days, with all energy focused on hitting metrics for the next quarter, and no thought about five years from now.
Wasn't it Clinton who changed the rules on tax deductions for executive pay and started the stock options trend which is driving this?
Wasn't it Clinton who changed the rules on tax deductions for executive pay and started the stock options trend which is driving this?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:28 AM (ExV1e)
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82 Agree. Socialism is unworkable because people are no angels. But likewise monopoly capitalism is not workable because wealthy people are often just as much of bastards with their own self interests as poor people.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
Socialists have their "Useless Eaters"
Crony Corporatists have their "Lazy Bastards who couldn't compete their way to a sustainable life"
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
Socialists have their "Useless Eaters"
Crony Corporatists have their "Lazy Bastards who couldn't compete their way to a sustainable life"
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 11:28 AM (UnA8+)
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I bought a gallon of S-W top of the line exterior paint a couple weeks ago. $104! You could always get a "discount" before, but not any more.
Posted by: Brush With Greatness at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (oftw2)
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Anyone knows the Real Socialism has never been tried.
It's Fake Socialism that ends up with poverty, secret police and rich apparatchiks.
It's Fake Socialism that ends up with poverty, secret police and rich apparatchiks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (Q1uY4)
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (EYmYM)
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70 Am I wrong in thinking that these corporate policies were at least somewhat the result of government regulations and laws? I mean, the SEC has a hand in preventing insider trading, for example.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just wondering
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Can't answer that but in the early 80's the USGOVT bailed out International Harvester and Chrysler. There's a precedent for bailing out Intel.
Charles Payne says if you're not in the market you're losing money.
Intel was 19 a month before Trump spoke, it's about 34 now.
Posted by: pookysgirl, just wondering
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Can't answer that but in the early 80's the USGOVT bailed out International Harvester and Chrysler. There's a precedent for bailing out Intel.
Charles Payne says if you're not in the market you're losing money.
Intel was 19 a month before Trump spoke, it's about 34 now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (KOTyL)
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Very hard to prevent or even limit any individual from acting in their own best interests, regardless where on the employment or executive ladder they are. CEOs will try to maximize their pay just as janitors will.
At one time, boards jealously guarded a company's income and finances. That was decades ago. Now, the board and CEO are joined ass-to-mouth and together loot the company, while the shareholders just watch.
It's hard to know how unfair losing the matching is unless we know what the SW employees are paid. In some instances, there's no 401k matching because the salaries are already above average.
At one time, boards jealously guarded a company's income and finances. That was decades ago. Now, the board and CEO are joined ass-to-mouth and together loot the company, while the shareholders just watch.
It's hard to know how unfair losing the matching is unless we know what the SW employees are paid. In some instances, there's no 401k matching because the salaries are already above average.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (iFTx/)
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95 Anyone knows the Real Socialism has never been tried.
It's Fake Socialism that ends up with poverty, secret police and rich apparatchiks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (Q1uY4)
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"Socialism turns into right wing fascism every time it's tried."
"So, you should stop trying to implement socialism because it will turn into right wing fascism?"
*glares*
It's Fake Socialism that ends up with poverty, secret police and rich apparatchiks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (Q1uY4)
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"Socialism turns into right wing fascism every time it's tried."
"So, you should stop trying to implement socialism because it will turn into right wing fascism?"
*glares*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
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Good morning everybody
Trump posted a music video, it is a cover, but a nice tune
(X link - not Truth)
https://tinyurl.com/cys7m2zx
Posted by: Kindltot
Needs more cowbell!
Trump posted a music video, it is a cover, but a nice tune
(X link - not Truth)
https://tinyurl.com/cys7m2zx
Posted by: Kindltot
Needs more cowbell!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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It's the thing that always bothers me about the "surrender not one inch of America to the ~50% that disagrees with me, they have to leave" or "I'm getting what's mine and fuck everyone else" mindset. You're setting yourself up for a fall.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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True. British coined the term, "I'm All Right Jack" which came from the 1959 movie of the same title. In that movie which is a black comedy, you will find no heroes whether management, unions, or workers. Peter Sellers shines as a shop steward.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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True. British coined the term, "I'm All Right Jack" which came from the 1959 movie of the same title. In that movie which is a black comedy, you will find no heroes whether management, unions, or workers. Peter Sellers shines as a shop steward.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:30 AM (WDjG6)
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I never thought about the stock buy backs that way Interesting.
Posted by: LASue at October 03, 2025 11:30 AM (lCppi)
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Chevron stock is down a nickel.
Essentially no change.
This year's proxy votes for me consisted of my usual no vote on any executive compensation, no vote on PriceWaterhouseCooper for auditor (because they are dicks), and a vote against any person with an initial for a first name, e.g., I. Adolf Hitler.
However, because of DEI, I also voted against any woman running for a board seat, along with any Chynese.
Essentially no change.
This year's proxy votes for me consisted of my usual no vote on any executive compensation, no vote on PriceWaterhouseCooper for auditor (because they are dicks), and a vote against any person with an initial for a first name, e.g., I. Adolf Hitler.
However, because of DEI, I also voted against any woman running for a board seat, along with any Chynese.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 03, 2025 11:30 AM (1NAEl)
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91 Some auto paint is now water based. I had some collision work done about five years ago and I'm starting to get a little blistering in the paint, much like on a house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 03, 2025 11:31 AM (gm9Sb)
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Heidi Petz, continues to lavishly reward herself
*********
Oh look, yet another woke Karen CEO
I am befuddled by companies apparent obsession with hiring bespectacled uggo as fuck Karens with no real business experience to lead their companies
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Oh look, yet another woke Karen CEO
I am befuddled by companies apparent obsession with hiring bespectacled uggo as fuck Karens with no real business experience to lead their companies
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Where Are My Keto Cheetos at October 03, 2025 11:31 AM (l1PQA)
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95 Anyone knows the Real Socialism has never been tried.
It's Fake Socialism that ends up with poverty, secret police and rich apparatchiks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (Q1uY4)
Apparently the actual argument they make is that it won't be "Real Communism" until it succeeds in conquering the entire globe.
It's Fake Socialism that ends up with poverty, secret police and rich apparatchiks.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (Q1uY4)
Apparently the actual argument they make is that it won't be "Real Communism" until it succeeds in conquering the entire globe.
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 11:31 AM (UnA8+)
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It’s a shitty move by SW. it’s also true that the 401K program is a shitty program for investors. They’re better off using after tax money to invest than pretax. Do the math. You put in $100K pretax, get an additional $6K. It grows to $150K and you pay the higher tax rate for the full amount instead of 15% cap gains tax.
Posted by: JackWayne at October 03, 2025 11:31 AM (PcEmA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:31 AM (guLpK)
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Oh yes, the blah blah blah "bits cracked me up!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:32 AM (guLpK)
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I’m over 29 so I remember when all the big companies had pension plans. 401ks basically did away with them. Unless you’re in a union .
Posted by: Willie Nailer
ERISA killed pension plans. Too expensive to run them and guarantee payments. The 401k was a workaround that puts the responsibility for managing the money into the hands of the employee. One more magical solution from congress.
Posted by: Willie Nailer
ERISA killed pension plans. Too expensive to run them and guarantee payments. The 401k was a workaround that puts the responsibility for managing the money into the hands of the employee. One more magical solution from congress.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (0U5gm)
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84 All that new fangled latex paint is crap anyway. It’s got water in it for crying out loud. I’m trying to protect my siding from water.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Gee, grandpa, I remember when you were bitching about when Raleigh coupons became a thing of the past.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Gee, grandpa, I remember when you were bitching about when Raleigh coupons became a thing of the past.
Posted by: Young Upstart at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (oftw2)
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96 Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 11:27 AM (vZUXb)
How does one pre-pay into Obamacare?
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (EYmYM)
You don't prepay but people are going to claim I paid taxes, and I want my healthcare, whether subsidized plans or Medicaid. They will say they are owed free medical care because they paid a tax just like people want their SS because they paid even though there is not enough money.
How does one pre-pay into Obamacare?
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (EYmYM)
You don't prepay but people are going to claim I paid taxes, and I want my healthcare, whether subsidized plans or Medicaid. They will say they are owed free medical care because they paid a tax just like people want their SS because they paid even though there is not enough money.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (vZUXb)
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Posted by: JackWayne at October 03, 2025 11:31 AM (PcEmA)
That’s why they came up with the Roth. I’m not going to like paying the tax when I am forced to withdraw from my regular 401k .
That’s why they came up with the Roth. I’m not going to like paying the tax when I am forced to withdraw from my regular 401k .
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (EYmYM)
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Agree. Socialism is unworkable because people are no angels. But likewise monopoly capitalism is not workable because wealthy people are often just as much of bastards with their own self interests as poor people.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
*ahem*
Socialism doesn't work because it centralizes market decisions and in so doing destroys market signals that consumers and producers use to judge what to make, how to make it, and what to buy.
The benefit of capitalisms is that it allows a free market to let producers and consumers decide what to best employ their money and labor,
What we have now, though is a centrally controlled financial system and regulatory system, which allows for certain players to manipulate the landscape to promote their own success, and doing so also destroys market signals and promote misallocation of funds, and hides outright theft,
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:25 AM (WDjG6)
*ahem*
Socialism doesn't work because it centralizes market decisions and in so doing destroys market signals that consumers and producers use to judge what to make, how to make it, and what to buy.
The benefit of capitalisms is that it allows a free market to let producers and consumers decide what to best employ their money and labor,
What we have now, though is a centrally controlled financial system and regulatory system, which allows for certain players to manipulate the landscape to promote their own success, and doing so also destroys market signals and promote misallocation of funds, and hides outright theft,
Posted by: Kindltot at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (rbvCR)
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54 I'd like to hear Buck's take on the refinery explosion.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
I can repeat what I said in the morning thread - everything in a refinery is superheated, highly pressured, and explosive. If any one of out of thousands of complex mechanical systems inside the plant breaks down, something goes Boom. What's incredible is that the highly professional crews there make it seem like an unusual occurrence.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
I can repeat what I said in the morning thread - everything in a refinery is superheated, highly pressured, and explosive. If any one of out of thousands of complex mechanical systems inside the plant breaks down, something goes Boom. What's incredible is that the highly professional crews there make it seem like an unusual occurrence.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:34 AM (uWKK8)
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>>>It's the thing that always bothers me about the "surrender not one inch of America to the ~50% that disagrees with me, they have to leave" or "I'm getting what's mine and fuck everyone else" mindset. You're setting yourself up for a fall.
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Who said that, besides the Democrats?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Who said that, besides the Democrats?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:34 AM (KOTyL)
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The way to fight back against socialism is to ram it home that as bad as situations like SW might be, socialism is much worse.
At SW, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees lose their 401k matching, but still have a 401k, a real income, and opportunities.
In socialism, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees get sent to bread lines or put up against a wall.
At SW, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees lose their 401k matching, but still have a 401k, a real income, and opportunities.
In socialism, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees get sent to bread lines or put up against a wall.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (iFTx/)
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It's time for states to have Sherwin Williams paint products removed from their project specifications. Commercial products are a big part of their sales. They a gotta learn not to mess with the employees.
Posted by: Indy Bill at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (iKLKd)
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As I’ll get to in a few paragraphs, socialism as an economic and political philosophy is gaining traction in this country, especially among younger voters.
Me too. I've got mine from many years of great compensated hard work. Financially secure, I work because I want to. Bring in socialism and I stop working and become a parasite.
And in the ten years that would pass as the parasites consume all of the stored wealth from over the generations, I'll be close to my life exit point and ready for the next Great Adventure in eternity.
Me too. I've got mine from many years of great compensated hard work. Financially secure, I work because I want to. Bring in socialism and I stop working and become a parasite.
And in the ten years that would pass as the parasites consume all of the stored wealth from over the generations, I'll be close to my life exit point and ready for the next Great Adventure in eternity.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (9Hs2w)
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I never thought about the stock buy backs that way Interesting.
Posted by: LASue at October 03, 2025 11:30 AM (lCppi)
I look at the dollar amount of buybacks, plus the dollar amount of dividends paid (on the statement of cash flows) and compare it to earnings to get an idea of the general health of the company. Dividends and buybacks are the most direct and indirect ways a company can pass its earnings to shareholders.
Posted by: LASue at October 03, 2025 11:30 AM (lCppi)
I look at the dollar amount of buybacks, plus the dollar amount of dividends paid (on the statement of cash flows) and compare it to earnings to get an idea of the general health of the company. Dividends and buybacks are the most direct and indirect ways a company can pass its earnings to shareholders.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (1NAEl)
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No telling what the country will be like 20 or 25 years down the road. Guess it's best not to blow your money on stupid crap and save as much as you can. If you are buying your home that is an investment, besides you have to have a place to live anyway. You should get some kind of SS benefits and Medicare. Hope for the best.
Posted by: Case at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (9HFDU)
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r/socialism We need to get rid of the Red Star. Stuff like this repels normies from our movement. They're not knowledgeable enough to know it isn't the same as communism, and it hurts our messaging.
Centrists are repelled from our movement because socialism threatens their class interests. Not because of a red star.
Centrists are repelled because of decades of red scare propaganda. Don't tell a conservative you want to abolish the military or borders; they will think you’re not being realistic. Tell them we should stop funding Israel and spend money here and you can chip away at their reactionary tendencies.
People are not repelled by the name or the symbols. The are repelled by ideology. Not ours, theirs. Also, we're not trying to attract centrists as centrists. We don't want people joining as conservatives or centrists or liberals. We want people who are radicalizing.
The red star is based.
Centrists are repelled from our movement because socialism threatens their class interests. Not because of a red star.
Centrists are repelled because of decades of red scare propaganda. Don't tell a conservative you want to abolish the military or borders; they will think you’re not being realistic. Tell them we should stop funding Israel and spend money here and you can chip away at their reactionary tendencies.
People are not repelled by the name or the symbols. The are repelled by ideology. Not ours, theirs. Also, we're not trying to attract centrists as centrists. We don't want people joining as conservatives or centrists or liberals. We want people who are radicalizing.
The red star is based.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (JCZqz)
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Socialists have their "Useless Eaters"
Crony Corporatists have their "Lazy Bastards who couldn't compete their way to a sustainable life"
Posted by: XTC
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Good summary because most humans are right bastards when it comes to grabbing wealth for them and theirs and bugger all to those that try to stop them.
Only solution is what Adam Smith mentions in a Theory of Moral Sentiment and his later Wealth of Nations. You make self interest work within a system designed to constrain that self interest to work for the betterment of society itself.
Society and government put the constraints on those that would do bad things like insider trading, naked shorts while line managers in a company do the same disciplining workers to avoid featherbedding, slack work ethic, etc.
Crony Corporatists have their "Lazy Bastards who couldn't compete their way to a sustainable life"
Posted by: XTC
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Good summary because most humans are right bastards when it comes to grabbing wealth for them and theirs and bugger all to those that try to stop them.
Only solution is what Adam Smith mentions in a Theory of Moral Sentiment and his later Wealth of Nations. You make self interest work within a system designed to constrain that self interest to work for the betterment of society itself.
Society and government put the constraints on those that would do bad things like insider trading, naked shorts while line managers in a company do the same disciplining workers to avoid featherbedding, slack work ethic, etc.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (WDjG6)
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>>> I bought a gallon of S-W top of the line exterior paint a couple weeks ago. $104! You could always get a "discount" before, but not any more.
Posted by: Brush With Greatness at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (oftw2)
Wait, a hundred bucks for a single gallon?
Posted by: Brush With Greatness at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (oftw2)
Wait, a hundred bucks for a single gallon?
Posted by: banana Dream at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (3uBP9)
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117 The way to fight back against socialism is to ram it home that as bad as situations like SW might be, socialism is much worse.
At SW, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees lose their 401k matching, but still have a 401k, a real income, and opportunities.
In socialism, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees get sent to bread lines or put up against a wall.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (iFTx/)
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I can't help but just waving my hands at the tax code and saying, "You call this capitalism?"
At SW, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees lose their 401k matching, but still have a 401k, a real income, and opportunities.
In socialism, the CEO gives himself a raise while the lower employees get sent to bread lines or put up against a wall.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (iFTx/)
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I can't help but just waving my hands at the tax code and saying, "You call this capitalism?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)
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like to hear Buck's take on the refinery explosion.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
Running overtime to make fuel to run power plants to charge EVs.
Posted by: Bulg at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)
Running overtime to make fuel to run power plants to charge EVs.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:36 AM (EYmYM)
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Defined contribution vs defined benefits is just a no-brainer for the company. Stick with pensions and you end up like the auto industry.
Posted by: toby928 is this a trope? at October 03, 2025 11:36 AM (o9/HH)
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One thing that people may not understand is that once you allow free trade, your firms compete with foreign firms, who don't have these cost structures.
I don't think that affects Sherman Williams yet, but in my industry, its all Amazon Chinese sellers competing against two American importers.
So the importers can't be super generous, because we pay American wages, while our competitors don't have to.
I don't think that affects Sherman Williams yet, but in my industry, its all Amazon Chinese sellers competing against two American importers.
So the importers can't be super generous, because we pay American wages, while our competitors don't have to.
Posted by: coba at October 03, 2025 11:36 AM (IuIym)
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The founders of European Fascism were ALL left wing socialists. The Nazis were the National Socialists, Mussolini formed his fascism after he lost a power struggle in the Italian socialist movement. Fascism historically has had its roots in the left. Small government conservatives don't suddenly become fascist, because Fascism is necessarily a big government movement.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 03, 2025 11:36 AM (Da7Vv)
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122 r/socialism We need to get rid of the Red Star. Stuff like this repels normies from our movement. They're not knowledgeable enough to know it isn't the same as communism, and it hurts our messaging.
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Yeah. Nuance is EVERYTHING
*SNORT*
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Yeah. Nuance is EVERYTHING
*SNORT*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (Q1uY4)
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This year's proxy votes for me consisted of my usual no vote on any executive compensation, no vote on PriceWaterhouseCooper for auditor (because they are dicks), and a vote against any person with an initial for a first name, e.g., I. Adolf Hitler.
However, because of DEI, I also voted against any woman running for a board seat, along with any Chynese.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
That is funny, having worked with auditors from most of the top firms, PWC is the only one I have worked with that to me was honest.
I review the board members, and look at which companies they have worked at, and which president put them on federal committees and vote accordingly. You were on the board at HP, or were appointed to a presidents council in 2011? No vote for you.
However, because of DEI, I also voted against any woman running for a board seat, along with any Chynese.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
That is funny, having worked with auditors from most of the top firms, PWC is the only one I have worked with that to me was honest.
I review the board members, and look at which companies they have worked at, and which president put them on federal committees and vote accordingly. You were on the board at HP, or were appointed to a presidents council in 2011? No vote for you.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (0U5gm)
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Charles Payne says if you're not in the market you're losing money.
Intel was 19 a month before Trump spoke, it's about 34 now.
I have proven with geometric logic that I'm an idiot at picking individual stocks but 100% of my 401K is in index ETFs. The rollercoaster drops can be nerve racking but all I have to do is keep living and it always recovers. Eventually.
Intel was 19 a month before Trump spoke, it's about 34 now.
I have proven with geometric logic that I'm an idiot at picking individual stocks but 100% of my 401K is in index ETFs. The rollercoaster drops can be nerve racking but all I have to do is keep living and it always recovers. Eventually.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (3nLb4)
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Looks like Kash has cut the FBI's ties with the SPLC too.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (gKWVE)
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Dividends and buybacks are the most direct and indirect ways a company can pass its earnings to shareholders.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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Stock buybacks are preferred by investors and Wall Street now due to capital gains rather than dividends which are taxed at the corporate as well as the individual level as ordinary income. But, far too often, corporations borrow to do stock buybacks which too many US companies are overleveraged to begin with.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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Stock buybacks are preferred by investors and Wall Street now due to capital gains rather than dividends which are taxed at the corporate as well as the individual level as ordinary income. But, far too often, corporations borrow to do stock buybacks which too many US companies are overleveraged to begin with.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:38 AM (WDjG6)
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That’s why they came up with the Roth. I’m not going to like paying the tax when I am forced to withdraw from my regular 401k .
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (EYmYM)
Multi-year Roth conversions enter the conversation. Maybe. Current thinking appear to be that Roth conversions only make sense for people with a lot of assets. I think that's a short-sighted view as it doesn't seems to take into account asset appreciation during retirement.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:33 AM (EYmYM)
Multi-year Roth conversions enter the conversation. Maybe. Current thinking appear to be that Roth conversions only make sense for people with a lot of assets. I think that's a short-sighted view as it doesn't seems to take into account asset appreciation during retirement.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e)
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Danica Patrick is speaking now on RAV. Not liking Bad Bunny.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 03, 2025 11:38 AM (GU6lg)
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I 'member when I was interviewing for a job and the manager said "full benefits." It was just H insurance. Bastard lied. No, I'm not bitter. Not at all.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 03, 2025 11:38 AM (mlg/3)
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124 >>> I bought a gallon of S-W top of the line exterior paint a couple weeks ago. $104! You could always get a "discount" before, but not any more.
Posted by: Brush With Greatness at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (oftw2)
Wait, a hundred bucks for a single gallon?
Posted by: banana Dream at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM
Yeah, wth? That's crazy.
Posted by: Brush With Greatness at October 03, 2025 11:29 AM (oftw2)
Wait, a hundred bucks for a single gallon?
Posted by: banana Dream at October 03, 2025 11:35 AM
Yeah, wth? That's crazy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 03, 2025 11:39 AM (vZUXb)
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The entire 401k system sucks and should be shitcanned and started over. It seems to benefit nobody but institutional fund managers.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:39 AM (iFTx/)
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Stock buybacks are a temporary way to juice your stock price without having to execute any real-world improvement of the company's business.
That's a good argument for selling on the bump, since the company's long-term value probably isn't going to improve.
That's a good argument for selling on the bump, since the company's long-term value probably isn't going to improve.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:40 AM (Q1uY4)
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They say it’s temporary as part of an austerity plan. And I don’t fault a company for that. Of course they screwed up by increasing management’s compensation at the same time.
That’s why they should be called out and even boycotted imo.
That’s why they should be called out and even boycotted imo.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:40 AM (EYmYM)
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Who said that, besides the Democrats?
Posted by: Braenyard
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It comes out in the comments now and again about unfettered open borders types with cheap labor, others that want absolute free trade, and so on.
Usually arguing muh principles when most of them have never done the work to read what their alleged principle's are based upon.
Posted by: Braenyard
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It comes out in the comments now and again about unfettered open borders types with cheap labor, others that want absolute free trade, and so on.
Usually arguing muh principles when most of them have never done the work to read what their alleged principle's are based upon.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:41 AM (WDjG6)
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Sherwin is starting to heavily Unionize. So the Company owes them -- Squat.
Just my $.02 and worth even less. Unionized Employees have already made the decision to not be a part of the Company.
Just my $.02 and worth even less. Unionized Employees have already made the decision to not be a part of the Company.
Posted by: YosemiteSatchmo at October 03, 2025 11:41 AM (dlO9y)
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Who said that, besides the Democrats?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:34 AM (KOTyL)
Every single time the topic of a national divorce arises, the comments will be full of people who opine that not one square inch of the current US should be surrendered to the current US citizens who reside there and with whom we cannot, apparently, live peacefully.
Every single time the topic of deal with social security arises, the comments will be full of people who opine that they've paid into the system and they'll get what's coming to them, dammit.
Every single time.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:34 AM (KOTyL)
Every single time the topic of a national divorce arises, the comments will be full of people who opine that not one square inch of the current US should be surrendered to the current US citizens who reside there and with whom we cannot, apparently, live peacefully.
Every single time the topic of deal with social security arises, the comments will be full of people who opine that they've paid into the system and they'll get what's coming to them, dammit.
Every single time.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:41 AM (ExV1e)
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That is funny, having worked with auditors from most of the top firms, PWC is the only one I have worked with that to me was honest.
I review the board members, and look at which companies they have worked at, and which president put them on federal committees and vote accordingly. You were on the board at HP, or were appointed to a presidents council in 2011? No vote for you.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (0U5gm)
Actually, I have no real beef against PWC, just that they have had DEIsney as a client for 50 years.
I forgot, I also look at the board members, and see if they serve on other boards. If they don't, or are on maybe one other board, they get a yes vote. Otherwise, nope.
I review the board members, and look at which companies they have worked at, and which president put them on federal committees and vote accordingly. You were on the board at HP, or were appointed to a presidents council in 2011? No vote for you.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (0U5gm)
Actually, I have no real beef against PWC, just that they have had DEIsney as a client for 50 years.
I forgot, I also look at the board members, and see if they serve on other boards. If they don't, or are on maybe one other board, they get a yes vote. Otherwise, nope.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 03, 2025 11:41 AM (1NAEl)
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133 Good; it's been terrible left wing organization for decades and RS McCain has been hammering on them for a very long time.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (7RYym)
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I Meme Therefore I Am @ImMeme0
Mamdani says he’s not a “communist,”but a “democratic socialist.” He claims he just wants a “better distribution of wealth for all of God’s children in this country.”
Translation: He plans to take money from hardworking Americans and redistribute it — to everyone but them.
Mamdani says he’s not a “communist,”but a “democratic socialist.” He claims he just wants a “better distribution of wealth for all of God’s children in this country.”
Translation: He plans to take money from hardworking Americans and redistribute it — to everyone but them.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (L/fGl)
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138 124 Benjamin Moore paint. Try it. You'll thank me. Also, available once upon a time at K Mart, now pretty much dead, was Martha Stewart paint. Good stuff but gone.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (gm9Sb)
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The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
It doesn't matter. They have beautiful weather.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
It doesn't matter. They have beautiful weather.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (g8Ew8)
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Alls I’m saying is I worked at a paint store for years and whenever we spilled the water based crap, it was easy to get off. If you spilled the oil based paint, you were going to be busy for a while.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (09LSL)
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It’s acrylic which is not bad but it’s still not as durable as oil.
Posted by: Willie Nailer
I love listening to Andrew Branca, but sometimes he does get a little Boomery. A few shows ago, he went off on a tangent about how much better lead-based paint was, and lead gasoline lol.
Posted by: Willie Nailer
I love listening to Andrew Branca, but sometimes he does get a little Boomery. A few shows ago, he went off on a tangent about how much better lead-based paint was, and lead gasoline lol.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
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>>> people want their SS because they paid even though there is not enough money.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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If they took SS and Medicare revenue out of the general fund and put it into an investment fund, even Treasury Bonds, there would be a lot more money.
If they got out of bed with the insurance companies - (Did you see where DOGE found $16 billion paid to insurance cos for vapor patrons?) SS and Medicare would have a lot more money.
There's a lot of scare scam to keep the Healthcare Grift flowing.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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If they took SS and Medicare revenue out of the general fund and put it into an investment fund, even Treasury Bonds, there would be a lot more money.
If they got out of bed with the insurance companies - (Did you see where DOGE found $16 billion paid to insurance cos for vapor patrons?) SS and Medicare would have a lot more money.
There's a lot of scare scam to keep the Healthcare Grift flowing.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (KOTyL)
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A staple, consistently profitable, well run and high morale business, despite an increasingly unstable housing development market?
Our plutocratic board members/overeducated nitwit grifters: "Loot it for assets and jack the stock for short-term gain! Who cares if we tank an American instituion?!?"
It would be really nice if business schools taught actual business ethics and best practices. The next quarter is not the only quarter
A staple, consistently profitable, well run and high morale business, despite an increasingly unstable housing development market?
Our plutocratic board members/overeducated nitwit grifters: "Loot it for assets and jack the stock for short-term gain! Who cares if we tank an American instituion?!?"
It would be really nice if business schools taught actual business ethics and best practices. The next quarter is not the only quarter
Posted by: Paolotato at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (g6TN6)
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...it doesn’t help us when corporations behave in a way that gives capitalism a bad name.
But on the other hand, it opens the door to new competitors. Basic influences of Porter's economics.
But on the other hand, it opens the door to new competitors. Basic influences of Porter's economics.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (2WIwB)
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139 The entire 401k system sucks and should be shitcanned and started over. It seems to benefit nobody but institutional fund managers.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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US economy became financialized with 401ks about the time (1970's) that companies realized that their pension plans were no longer financially viable or financially desirable. So companies with financially secure pension plans raided theirs, while others dropped them in favor of 401ks.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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US economy became financialized with 401ks about the time (1970's) that companies realized that their pension plans were no longer financially viable or financially desirable. So companies with financially secure pension plans raided theirs, while others dropped them in favor of 401ks.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (WDjG6)
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146 133 Good; it's been terrible left wing organization for decades and RS McCain has been hammering on them for a very long time.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (7RYym)
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Not to mention a huge grift that has made its virtue-signaling founders rich.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (7RYym)
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Not to mention a huge grift that has made its virtue-signaling founders rich.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (Q1uY4)
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We stood around this morning till about 930. Went up into the attic and worked a bit till 11. Now, it is nap time before lunch. Seriously, nap before lunch.
Posted by: Accomack at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (6PF3l)
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Stable*
Posted by: Paolotato at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (g6TN6)
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Sherwin is starting to heavily Unionize. So the Company owes them -- Squat.
Just my $.02 and worth even less. Unionized Employees have already made the decision to not be a part of the Company.
Posted by: YosemiteSatchmo at October 03, 2025 11:41 AM (dlO9y)
If that’s accurate I would have to lean toward that opinion.
Just my $.02 and worth even less. Unionized Employees have already made the decision to not be a part of the Company.
Posted by: YosemiteSatchmo at October 03, 2025 11:41 AM (dlO9y)
If that’s accurate I would have to lean toward that opinion.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (EYmYM)
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How will you feel when younger people vote to end Social Security on the basis that they're not responsible for your retirement. Figure that shit on your own.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Just for the sake consistency, I assume it will happen the day before I'm eligible to begin receiving benefits in five years or so.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (ExV1e)
I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Just for the sake consistency, I assume it will happen the day before I'm eligible to begin receiving benefits in five years or so.
Posted by: Polka will never die at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (h8WaN)
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150 Working at the paint store is for people that can't handle the excitement of working at the tire store.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)
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If Americans cannot thrive due to macro forces beyond their control, such as the biggest issue, stagnant median real income since 1970 despite MASSIVE increases in total GDP/Wealth, even AOC could win the Presidency with large numbers of younger and mid-life voters finally going commie not because of ideology but because they have to pay rent, groceries, etc. to survive.
Bringing in more H1-B / H-4 workers and not deporting illegals and reducing legal immigration ensures we get to a more socialist country.
Wealth concentration is off the charts and it will be completely understandable if Americans want to burn down those 1% who have 90% of the wealth.
If Americans cannot thrive due to macro forces beyond their control, such as the biggest issue, stagnant median real income since 1970 despite MASSIVE increases in total GDP/Wealth, even AOC could win the Presidency with large numbers of younger and mid-life voters finally going commie not because of ideology but because they have to pay rent, groceries, etc. to survive.
Bringing in more H1-B / H-4 workers and not deporting illegals and reducing legal immigration ensures we get to a more socialist country.
Wealth concentration is off the charts and it will be completely understandable if Americans want to burn down those 1% who have 90% of the wealth.
Posted by: Sapwolf at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (5pS45)
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142 Who said that, besides the Democrats?
Posted by: Braenyard
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It comes out in the comments now and again about unfettered open borders types with cheap labor, others that want absolute free trade, and so on.
Usually arguing muh principles when most of them have never done the work to read what their alleged principle's are based upon.
Posted by: whig
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Sounds like a Democrat or a Troll to me.
Posted by: Braenyard
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It comes out in the comments now and again about unfettered open borders types with cheap labor, others that want absolute free trade, and so on.
Usually arguing muh principles when most of them have never done the work to read what their alleged principle's are based upon.
Posted by: whig
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Sounds like a Democrat or a Troll to me.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:45 AM (KOTyL)
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Looks like Kash has cut the FBI's ties with the SPLC too.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (gKWVE)
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Second shoe.
No doubt this is the heart of fascism and authoritarianism, to not keep lists on citizens.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (gKWVE)
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Second shoe.
No doubt this is the heart of fascism and authoritarianism, to not keep lists on citizens.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 11:45 AM (krQz2)
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Funny you mention Sherwin Williams. I was just reading an article recently that pointed out something that I fully expected to happen.
Sherwin Williams, when they noticed the DEI track heading south, immediately rebranded the effort to "Belonging and Culture" while keeping the same DEI employees and policies in place. Many corporations did this, but this is one of the first articles I've read where it was admitted and defined. Most corporations, I assumed, would be more covert than that and throw the DEI employees into the legal office under some "compliance" title.
Sherwin Williams, when they noticed the DEI track heading south, immediately rebranded the effort to "Belonging and Culture" while keeping the same DEI employees and policies in place. Many corporations did this, but this is one of the first articles I've read where it was admitted and defined. Most corporations, I assumed, would be more covert than that and throw the DEI employees into the legal office under some "compliance" title.
Posted by: Orson at October 03, 2025 11:45 AM (dIske)
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I love listening to Andrew Branca, but sometimes he does get a little Boomery. A few shows ago, he went off on a tangent about how much better lead-based paint was, and lead gasoline lol.
Andrew can be a very smart guy when he stays in his lane but he sometimes falls into the trap of contrarianism for its own sake. Uh, like just about everybody on the intertubes.
Andrew can be a very smart guy when he stays in his lane but he sometimes falls into the trap of contrarianism for its own sake. Uh, like just about everybody on the intertubes.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 11:46 AM (3nLb4)
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Best thing about working at a paint store is once an a while a good looking girl would come in and ask to see my caulk.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 11:46 AM (09LSL)
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166 Andrew can be a very smart guy when he stays in his lane but he sometimes falls into the trap of contrarianism for its own sake. Uh, like just about everybody on the intertubes.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 11:46 AM (3nLb4)
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That's not true!
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 11:46 AM (3nLb4)
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That's not true!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (JCZqz)
I bet he likes asbestos also. 😀
Thing is that each side of the argument exaggerates the benefits or dangers to support their position.
I bet he likes asbestos also. 😀
Thing is that each side of the argument exaggerates the benefits or dangers to support their position.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:47 AM (EYmYM)
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Spidey sense tingling, I put on my peepers and inspected the label closely at the “gallon” of paint purchased at the hardware store.
Yup. Shrinkage has arrived. 124 ounces! Nobody will notice the four (4) ounces missing. Still damnably expensive.
Don’t even think about pricing automotive paint if you value your cardiac rhythms.
Yup. Shrinkage has arrived. 124 ounces! Nobody will notice the four (4) ounces missing. Still damnably expensive.
Don’t even think about pricing automotive paint if you value your cardiac rhythms.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 03, 2025 11:47 AM (yFlgz)
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165 DEI at Sherwin Williams means color blind trannies get employment.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 03, 2025 11:47 AM (gm9Sb)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:47 AM (PpBto)
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That Rasmussen poll is horrifying. Most especially the nationalizing of industries. Advocating (having been indoctrinated with no counterpoint opinion being heard) for something that would have terrible consequences.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2025 11:47 AM (qBdHI)
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Did that fucking loon Comey ever publicly swoon over the SPLC the way he did for the Anti-Defamation League??
Something is really wrong in that man's head.
Something is really wrong in that man's head.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:48 AM (Q1uY4)
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Capitalism is the greatest thing ever.
Corruption, however, as with everything else, f*cks it into the ground.
Young people thinking that government control of industry will 'fix' things, are incredibly stupid.
Corruption, however, as with everything else, f*cks it into the ground.
Young people thinking that government control of industry will 'fix' things, are incredibly stupid.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:48 AM (PpBto)
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But on the other hand, it opens the door to new competitors. Basic influences of Porter's economics.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The problem is that those competitors may or may not be based in foreign lands, and additionally that we all live in the short run in a specific place and time. And often the issue on some industries is that they become natural monopolies due to the scale of capital needed for startups and first mover advantage. That is leaving aside the inevitable government/monopoly or oligopoly capture.
Principles and theory do not run the world because they are always heuristics when dealing with humans, not an absolute description of reality.
Reality is messy whether it is counterinsurgencies, trade policy, labor policy, or taxing policy. To quote Herbert Simon, we muddle through via informed pragmatism, not theory.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The problem is that those competitors may or may not be based in foreign lands, and additionally that we all live in the short run in a specific place and time. And often the issue on some industries is that they become natural monopolies due to the scale of capital needed for startups and first mover advantage. That is leaving aside the inevitable government/monopoly or oligopoly capture.
Principles and theory do not run the world because they are always heuristics when dealing with humans, not an absolute description of reality.
Reality is messy whether it is counterinsurgencies, trade policy, labor policy, or taxing policy. To quote Herbert Simon, we muddle through via informed pragmatism, not theory.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:48 AM (WDjG6)
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That's not true!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava
[ whisper ]
Psst. You forgot the "Like and subscribe!"
[ /whisper ]
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava
[ whisper ]
Psst. You forgot the "Like and subscribe!"
[ /whisper ]
Posted by: Oddbob at October 03, 2025 11:48 AM (3nLb4)
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:43 AM (Q1uY4)
Yes, very wealthy. I was trying to find some writings by R.S . McCain on them, but naturally there's much more on the internet about the SPLC saying how awful he is . I do recall him in the past getting some dark humor from "Poverty" in their title.
Yes, very wealthy. I was trying to find some writings by R.S . McCain on them, but naturally there's much more on the internet about the SPLC saying how awful he is . I do recall him in the past getting some dark humor from "Poverty" in their title.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (Nx5jP)
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Something is really wrong in that man's head.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:48 AM (Q1uY4)
He's a fag and his shit's retarded.
Something is really wrong in that man's head.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:48 AM (Q1uY4)
He's a fag and his shit's retarded.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (PpBto)
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I've been expecting that to happen for a while now. Just for the sake consistency, I assume it will happen the day before I'm eligible to begin receiving benefits in five years or so.
Posted by: Polka will never die at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (h8WaN)
For the entire time that I've worked with a financial advisor, I've required that they present retirement feasibility reports without taking into account SS. They would always say "it's not going away" and I would say "great, that's a bonus then".
I don't trust anything that depends on the future decisions of voters or politicians.
Posted by: Polka will never die at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (h8WaN)
For the entire time that I've worked with a financial advisor, I've required that they present retirement feasibility reports without taking into account SS. They would always say "it's not going away" and I would say "great, that's a bonus then".
I don't trust anything that depends on the future decisions of voters or politicians.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (ExV1e)
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Ceo Heidi.
Nothing more to say.
Nothing more to say.
Posted by: From about That Time at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (n4GiU)
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Employer based retirement/investment plans are great... for the employer. Most are a 'one size fits all' arrangement. By design. And for the employer. Not the employees.
In retirement we've been able to leave our employer based retirement plan alone and directed more effort into a wealth management program that we, and our advisor control. It's doing quite well. The employer based doesn't suck, but it's not 'agile' enough to make money when it counts.
In retirement we've been able to leave our employer based retirement plan alone and directed more effort into a wealth management program that we, and our advisor control. It's doing quite well. The employer based doesn't suck, but it's not 'agile' enough to make money when it counts.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (Q4IgG)
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161 150 Working at the paint store is for people that can't handle the excitement of working at the tire store.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply
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Those guys at Discount Tire work for a living. They earn every dollar the hard way.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply
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Those guys at Discount Tire work for a living. They earn every dollar the hard way.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (KOTyL)
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Profit is the tangible measure of your success in a venture. Gain is just a number that's higher than it was yesterday. It the latter looks good, it might just be papering over the former looking terrible.
Is your business succeeding at creating profit, or is it just creating gains? Profit is the creation of wealth. Gains are zero sum, merely moving money from one place to another, and the negative half of that sum will inevitably bite you in the keister.
You won't win any races by taking the cover off your speedometer and pushing the needle to the peg on the right.
Is your business succeeding at creating profit, or is it just creating gains? Profit is the creation of wealth. Gains are zero sum, merely moving money from one place to another, and the negative half of that sum will inevitably bite you in the keister.
You won't win any races by taking the cover off your speedometer and pushing the needle to the peg on the right.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2025 11:49 AM (VoAdT)
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If Americans cannot thrive due to macro forces beyond their control, such as the biggest issue, stagnant median real income since 1970 despite MASSIVE increases in total GDP/Wealth, even AOC could win the Presidency with large numbers of younger and mid-life voters finally going commie not because of ideology but because they have to pay rent, groceries, etc. to survive.
Bringing in more H1-B / H-4 workers and not deporting illegals and reducing legal immigration ensures we get to a more socialist country.
Wealth concentration is off the charts and it will be completely understandable if Americans want to burn down those 1% who have 90% of the wealth.
Posted by: Sapwolf at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (5pS45)
"You don't deserve to survive, you lazy bastard" is the winning argument this time, it just has to be.
If Americans cannot thrive due to macro forces beyond their control, such as the biggest issue, stagnant median real income since 1970 despite MASSIVE increases in total GDP/Wealth, even AOC could win the Presidency with large numbers of younger and mid-life voters finally going commie not because of ideology but because they have to pay rent, groceries, etc. to survive.
Bringing in more H1-B / H-4 workers and not deporting illegals and reducing legal immigration ensures we get to a more socialist country.
Wealth concentration is off the charts and it will be completely understandable if Americans want to burn down those 1% who have 90% of the wealth.
Posted by: Sapwolf at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (5pS45)
"You don't deserve to survive, you lazy bastard" is the winning argument this time, it just has to be.
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (UnA8+)
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161 150 Working at the paint store is for people that can't handle the excitement of working at the tire store.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)
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Toll Booth Cashiers would take issue with this proposition.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)
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Toll Booth Cashiers would take issue with this proposition.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Q1uY4)
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Home Depot used to match employees 401s.
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (GU6lg)
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Looks like Kash has cut the FBI's ties with the SPLC too.
What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
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Every single time the topic of deal with social security arises, the comments will be full of people who opine that they've paid into the system and they'll get what's coming to them, dammit.
I have always assumed that money taken from me at gunpoint is not going to be returned by the taker.
I have always assumed that money taken from me at gunpoint is not going to be returned by the taker.
Posted by: I was just holding it for him! at October 03, 2025 11:51 AM (TbWk/)
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Message to Heidi Putz: That kind of CEO behavior is exactly what spawned Luigi Mangione. And as vile as his actions were, he had tremendous support from the Left.
Posted by: red speck at October 03, 2025 11:51 AM (0Id0S)
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173 That Rasmussen poll is horrifying. Most especially the nationalizing of industries. Advocating (having been indoctrinated with no counterpoint opinion being heard) for something that would have terrible consequences.
Posted by: Lady in Black
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Yet predictable, the adults in the room buggered our youths for several decades with wars, endless spending siphoned off to cronies, allowing mass monopolies under the rubric of free enterprise, so that the yutes decide being buggered by socialism is preferable than the status quo.
Britain did the same post WWII, the rank and file classes felt enough was enough. Took about 40 years of quasi socialism to bring in Maggie to staunch the bleeding. And then it promptly resumed after Maggie was deposed whether Tory or Labor was in government.
Posted by: Lady in Black
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Yet predictable, the adults in the room buggered our youths for several decades with wars, endless spending siphoned off to cronies, allowing mass monopolies under the rubric of free enterprise, so that the yutes decide being buggered by socialism is preferable than the status quo.
Britain did the same post WWII, the rank and file classes felt enough was enough. Took about 40 years of quasi socialism to bring in Maggie to staunch the bleeding. And then it promptly resumed after Maggie was deposed whether Tory or Labor was in government.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:51 AM (WDjG6)
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TikTok star Jacinda Jenkins died on September 29 at the age of 28 leaving behind two daughters, her mother Emily Kocik confirmed in a video.
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Her death is described only as "sudden" which I interpret to mean suicide. She had facial tattoos, a nose ring, and purple hair.
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Her death is described only as "sudden" which I interpret to mean suicide. She had facial tattoos, a nose ring, and purple hair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
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What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
Taking their word on designated hate groups and investigating them.
What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
Taking their word on designated hate groups and investigating them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:53 AM (PpBto)
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The SPLC is a hate group.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:53 AM (PpBto)
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Her death is described only as "sudden" which I interpret to mean suicide. She had facial tattoos, a nose ring, and purple hair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Cardiac event caused by the covid vaccine.
Her death is described only as "sudden" which I interpret to mean suicide. She had facial tattoos, a nose ring, and purple hair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
Cardiac event caused by the covid vaccine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:54 AM (PpBto)
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Yet predictable, the adults in the room buggered our youths for several decades with wars, endless spending siphoned off to cronies, allowing mass monopolies under the rubric of free enterprise, so that the yutes decide being buggered by socialism is preferable than the status quo.
C'mon Jack! You and I have a very different view on what constitutes "buggering youth".
C'mon Jack! You and I have a very different view on what constitutes "buggering youth".
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 03, 2025 11:54 AM (JCZqz)
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The SPLC was another Leftist cat's paw, doing the work that the government couldn't legally do directly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:54 AM (Q1uY4)
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CBS News, Chicago
Local News
Broadview ICE facility protest draws hundreds, over a dozen arrested
Can watch live.
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Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Local News
Broadview ICE facility protest draws hundreds, over a dozen arrested
Can watch live.
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Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)
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The appeal of socialism to the younger gens isn't really based on their fear of capitalism. Do we really think teenagers are paying attention to what happens to company's 401k-matching policies?
What drives the appeal of socialism is the two things that have always driven its appeal: (i) jealousy and (ii) sloth.
Number (ii) is especially a more recent development. Even in the corporate world, the younger generations aren't willing to work as hard or long as the older gens.
I saw this at Big Law Firm Inc. I signed on to insanely long hours and no life, in exchange for piles of money, prestige, and career opportunities. By the time I cashed out, the new lawyers at the firm wanted the money, prestige, and opportunities -- but they didn't want to work. Maybe they are the smart ones, who knows?
What drives the appeal of socialism is the two things that have always driven its appeal: (i) jealousy and (ii) sloth.
Number (ii) is especially a more recent development. Even in the corporate world, the younger generations aren't willing to work as hard or long as the older gens.
I saw this at Big Law Firm Inc. I signed on to insanely long hours and no life, in exchange for piles of money, prestige, and career opportunities. By the time I cashed out, the new lawyers at the firm wanted the money, prestige, and opportunities -- but they didn't want to work. Maybe they are the smart ones, who knows?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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192 TikTok star Jacinda Jenkins died on September 29 at the age of 28 leaving behind two daughters, her mother Emily Kocik confirmed in a video.
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Her death is described only as "sudden" which I interpret to mean suicide. She had facial tattoos, a nose ring, and purple hair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
I'm somewhat more tolerant of aposematism stuff than many, but facial tattoos are a red line.
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Her death is described only as "sudden" which I interpret to mean suicide. She had facial tattoos, a nose ring, and purple hair.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Going For the Brass Ring! at October 03, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)
I'm somewhat more tolerant of aposematism stuff than many, but facial tattoos are a red line.
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (UnA8+)
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Working at the paint store is for people that can't handle the excitement of working at the tire store.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
You don't want idiots in the paint store and fwiw, back in teh day, I was a hardlines manager for Sears after graduating and over the paint department. Screwups in the paint department by not cleaning up equipment, improperly mixing paint, etc. cost the company money in rectification. But paint was one of the highest revenue makers per sq ft in hardlines.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
You don't want idiots in the paint store and fwiw, back in teh day, I was a hardlines manager for Sears after graduating and over the paint department. Screwups in the paint department by not cleaning up equipment, improperly mixing paint, etc. cost the company money in rectification. But paint was one of the highest revenue makers per sq ft in hardlines.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (WDjG6)
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C'mon Jack! You and I have a very different view on what constitutes "buggering youth".
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 03, 2025 11:54 AM (JCZqz)
Mental f*ck or proper f*ck.
C'mon Jack! You and I have a very different view on what constitutes "buggering youth".
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 03, 2025 11:54 AM (JCZqz)
Mental f*ck or proper f*ck.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (PpBto)
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Toll Booth Cashiers would take issue with this proposition.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Q1uY4)
NYC Toll Collectors used to retire very wealthy. Of course they were unionized and had the typical union pension. A year before someone was due to retire it was an unwritten policy that others would call in sick to allow the retiring employee to continually work OT for that year . The year in which his yearly pension would be based upon. (could have been two years) .
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Q1uY4)
NYC Toll Collectors used to retire very wealthy. Of course they were unionized and had the typical union pension. A year before someone was due to retire it was an unwritten policy that others would call in sick to allow the retiring employee to continually work OT for that year . The year in which his yearly pension would be based upon. (could have been two years) .
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (EYmYM)
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188 Looks like Kash has cut the FBI's ties with the SPLC too.
What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
Not quite: Biden's FBI was using the radical SPLC as a beard to justify their own targeting and harassing of any conservative voices.
What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
Not quite: Biden's FBI was using the radical SPLC as a beard to justify their own targeting and harassing of any conservative voices.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (uWKK8)
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Corporate management, aided by institutional investors such as Black Rock, Vanguard, and the entire range, have been ripping off the ultimate individual shareholder for decades.
The cumulative vig is incredible.
Shareholder votes should only be available on positive affirmation at the individual level.
The cumulative vig is incredible.
Shareholder votes should only be available on positive affirmation at the individual level.
Posted by: From about That Time at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (n4GiU)
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198 CBS News, Chicago
Local News
Broadview ICE facility protest draws hundreds, over a dozen arrested
Can watch live.
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Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)
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Watching fat, safe Democrat politicians beg their uncontrollable foot soldiers to do their dirty work because the politicians themselves are completely impotent is darkly amusing.
Local News
Broadview ICE facility protest draws hundreds, over a dozen arrested
Can watch live.
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Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)
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Watching fat, safe Democrat politicians beg their uncontrollable foot soldiers to do their dirty work because the politicians themselves are completely impotent is darkly amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)
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Looks like Kash has cut the FBI's ties with the SPLC too.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (gKWVE)
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Good . They're a grifting sack of vipers.
Posted by: gKWVE at October 03, 2025 11:37 AM (gKWVE)
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Good . They're a grifting sack of vipers.
Posted by: LASue at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (lCppi)
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If Americans cannot thrive due to macro forces beyond their control, such as the biggest issue, stagnant median real income since 1970 despite MASSIVE increases in total GDP/Wealth, even AOC could win the Presidency with large numbers of younger and mid-life voters finally going commie not because of ideology but because they have to pay rent, groceries, etc. to survive.
Wealth concentration is off the charts and it will be completely understandable if Americans want to burn down those 1% who have 90% of the wealth.
Posted by: Sapwolf at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (5pS45)
Well, the quickest way to increase American wages would be to stop the importation of millions of people willing to work VERY cheaply because they are not subject to the laws Americans have to follow. (Like housing restrictions, insurance requirements, etc...)
Another way would be to discourage female participation in the workforce, as all the increased women in the workforce also lowered wages and made single-income families have a much harder time.
(Two-income families now compete for housing with two-incomes also driving up the price of housing... additionally negating the benefit of more income.)
Wealth concentration is off the charts and it will be completely understandable if Americans want to burn down those 1% who have 90% of the wealth.
Posted by: Sapwolf at October 03, 2025 11:44 AM (5pS45)
Well, the quickest way to increase American wages would be to stop the importation of millions of people willing to work VERY cheaply because they are not subject to the laws Americans have to follow. (Like housing restrictions, insurance requirements, etc...)
Another way would be to discourage female participation in the workforce, as all the increased women in the workforce also lowered wages and made single-income families have a much harder time.
(Two-income families now compete for housing with two-incomes also driving up the price of housing... additionally negating the benefit of more income.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (zjgNU)
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C'mon Jack! You and I have a very different view on what constitutes "buggering youth".
Posted by: Joe Biden
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True both on a metaphorical and actual basis. Troonism is simply a way to bugger fake females.
Posted by: Joe Biden
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True both on a metaphorical and actual basis. Troonism is simply a way to bugger fake females.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (WDjG6)
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Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)
Yet another nonconsequential call for assassination of a Trump admin official by a left wing agitator.
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)
Yet another nonconsequential call for assassination of a Trump admin official by a left wing agitator.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (PpBto)
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What does that mean? Was the FBI using SPLC as informants?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
The FBI was using SPLC's list of racist and bad companies as a guide for enforcement. Which was great for SPLC since I suspect one of the ways to get off that list was to hire their cronies and other forms of indirect blackmail
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 11:50 AM (Nx5jP)
The FBI was using SPLC's list of racist and bad companies as a guide for enforcement. Which was great for SPLC since I suspect one of the ways to get off that list was to hire their cronies and other forms of indirect blackmail
Posted by: Kindltot at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (rbvCR)
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Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
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But Sarah Palin put target cross-hairs on swing states.
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
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But Sarah Palin put target cross-hairs on swing states.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (Q1uY4)
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@russvought . ~
$2.1 billion in Chicago infrastructure projects--
specifically the Red Line Extension and the Red and Purple Modernization Project--have been put on hold to ensure funding is not flowing via race-based contracting. More info to come soon from
$2.1 billion in Chicago infrastructure projects--
specifically the Red Line Extension and the Red and Purple Modernization Project--have been put on hold to ensure funding is not flowing via race-based contracting. More info to come soon from
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:57 AM (KOTyL)
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Shareholder votes should only be available on positive affirmation at the individual level.
Posted by: From about That Time
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Yep although how to manage that via index funds is beyond me.
Posted by: From about That Time
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Yep although how to manage that via index funds is beyond me.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 11:57 AM (WDjG6)
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That Rasmussen poll is horrifying. Most especially the nationalizing of industries. Advocating (having been indoctrinated with no counterpoint opinion being heard) for something that would have terrible consequences.
Posted by: Lady in Black
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Yet predictable, the adults in the room buggered our youths for several decades with wars, endless spending siphoned off to cronies, allowing mass monopolies under the rubric of free enterprise, so that the yutes decide being buggered by socialism is preferable than the status quo.
If you don't like it, just make your own multi-billion dollar corporation that controls large swathes of the economy and chokes out competition with regulatory capture! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!
Posted by: Lady in Black
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Yet predictable, the adults in the room buggered our youths for several decades with wars, endless spending siphoned off to cronies, allowing mass monopolies under the rubric of free enterprise, so that the yutes decide being buggered by socialism is preferable than the status quo.
If you don't like it, just make your own multi-billion dollar corporation that controls large swathes of the economy and chokes out competition with regulatory capture! Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!
Posted by: Boomer what says kids don't wanna work no more at October 03, 2025 11:57 AM (TbWk/)
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212 Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
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But Sarah Palin put target cross-hairs on swing states.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (Q1uY4)
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The calls for implied violence are increasing, but the administration is just scooping up more activists every day in places like Chicago. A dozen, reportedly, just since last night.
Must be confusing.
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
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But Sarah Palin put target cross-hairs on swing states.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (Q1uY4)
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The calls for implied violence are increasing, but the administration is just scooping up more activists every day in places like Chicago. A dozen, reportedly, just since last night.
Must be confusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
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Finally got Mrs D, who controls the magic wands of power, to cancel Netflix. The final straw was watching the Kera Knightly spy series and in the middle of the story they throw in two guys going at it.
Done.
Done.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
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Two-income families now compete for housing with two-incomes also driving up the price of housing... additionally negating the benefit of more income.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (zjgNU)
How's that a problem?
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 03, 2025 11:56 AM (zjgNU)
How's that a problem?
Posted by: Blackrock at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (TbWk/)
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Even in the corporate world, the younger generations aren't willing to work as hard or long as the older gens.
I suspect that this is based on the widespread, mistaken, belief that social media 'influencers' make tons of money and live on easy street for doing nothing while failing to understand that:
- many of the female influencers are prostitutes.
- much of the wealth flaunted is rented, fake, or financed.
Everything has become a scam. Everyone be lookin' to make they bag. Morals have died, ethics have died, community has died.
I suspect that this is based on the widespread, mistaken, belief that social media 'influencers' make tons of money and live on easy street for doing nothing while failing to understand that:
- many of the female influencers are prostitutes.
- much of the wealth flaunted is rented, fake, or financed.
Everything has become a scam. Everyone be lookin' to make they bag. Morals have died, ethics have died, community has died.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (ExV1e)
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I don't like referring to us as a capitalist economy. We are a free market economy, or attempt to be.
Capitalism is just what wins out naturally.
Capitalism is just what wins out naturally.
Posted by: From about That Time at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (n4GiU)
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149 The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
It doesn't matter. They have beautiful weather.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (g8Ew
I just watched some video of that - WOW. Big Bada Boom! Some people nearby wondered if it was a nuclear bomb. That things gonna be down for a while.
1/5 of all the gasoline production in SoCal just went with it.
(you see the weakness in the plan of having just a few really big refineries, as opposed to a much larger number of intermediate sized ones)
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
It doesn't matter. They have beautiful weather.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 03, 2025 11:42 AM (g8Ew
I just watched some video of that - WOW. Big Bada Boom! Some people nearby wondered if it was a nuclear bomb. That things gonna be down for a while.
1/5 of all the gasoline production in SoCal just went with it.
(you see the weakness in the plan of having just a few really big refineries, as opposed to a much larger number of intermediate sized ones)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK8)
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Silver at $48.63 per oz.That means a pre-1965 dime has $3.47 worth of silver in it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (Da7Vv)
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212 Also CBS, Chicago
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
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Would it be considered violent if she went to IL and grabbed him by the balls till his eyes popped out?
Local News
Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
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Would it be considered violent if she went to IL and grabbed him by the balls till his eyes popped out?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (KOTyL)
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221 I just watched some video of that - WOW. Big Bada Boom! Some people nearby wondered if it was a nuclear bomb. That things gonna be down for a while.
1/5 of all the gasoline production in SoCal just went with it.
(you see the weakness in the plan of having just a few really big refineries, as opposed to a much larger number of intermediate sized ones)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK
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Dude I follow on X posted his 1.99 per gallon find outside of San Antonio this morning.
1/5 of all the gasoline production in SoCal just went with it.
(you see the weakness in the plan of having just a few really big refineries, as opposed to a much larger number of intermediate sized ones)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK
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Dude I follow on X posted his 1.99 per gallon find outside of San Antonio this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Speaking of trannies, I was on the phone the other day with tech support at a very large tax software company used by my late wife in her tax and accounting business.
The person with whom I was speaking was a very pleasant individual and solved my issue quickly. At the end of the call, I requested her name just to have a record of it should a further problem arise.
Me: You've been very helpful. Thank you. Can I have your name, ma'am?
Ma'am: [short pause] It's Kevin, K-e-v-i-n.
Me: Well, thank you very much, Kevin.
[quickly ends call]
Oops...
The person with whom I was speaking was a very pleasant individual and solved my issue quickly. At the end of the call, I requested her name just to have a record of it should a further problem arise.
Me: You've been very helpful. Thank you. Can I have your name, ma'am?
Ma'am: [short pause] It's Kevin, K-e-v-i-n.
Me: Well, thank you very much, Kevin.
[quickly ends call]
Oops...
Posted by: one hour sober at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (Y1sOo)
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199 Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
Fenelon to respond in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Fenelon to respond in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (UnA8+)
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Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
I only use the free streaming services and digital antenna for the networks. Don’t know why I didn’t do this years ago.
I only use the free streaming services and digital antenna for the networks. Don’t know why I didn’t do this years ago.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (EYmYM)
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222 Silver at $48.63 per oz.That means a pre-1965 dime has $3.47 worth of silver in it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President
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Joey B. the grift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President
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Joey B. the grift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at October 03, 2025 12:01 PM (KOTyL)
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Trump is going to homer endlessly in the next inning as he uses the authority granted him in the Antideficiency Act to keep the government solvent, and he's not going to be playing smallball.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I want Trump to play kickballs...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I want Trump to play kickballs...
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (aKxcI)
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"I also point out that this is not “unprecedented” for a Republican administration, since it was President George W. Bush in 2008 who handed over $700 billion to major financial institutions during the financial crisis, and in consideration, the government took an ownership share in those companies."
LOL, "Republican". GWB, aka "Chimpy", was a lot of things, but Republican wasn't one of them. Using that coked-up dunce as a Republican precedent is just plain bad faith.
LOL, "Republican". GWB, aka "Chimpy", was a lot of things, but Republican wasn't one of them. Using that coked-up dunce as a Republican precedent is just plain bad faith.
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (0XN1P)
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Dude I follow on X posted his 1.99 per gallon find outside of San Antonio this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK8)
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just watched some video of that - WOW. Big Bada Boom! Some people nearby wondered if it was a nuclear bomb. That things gonna be down for a while.
1/5 of all the gasoline production in SoCal just went with it.
(you see the weakness in the plan of having just a few really big refineries, as opposed to a much larger number of intermediate sized ones)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK8 )
Liberal sabotage. These things just seem to keep happening lately. First it was food facilities exploding randomly. Now, energy and American production facilities.
The left is Terminator and will not stop.
1/5 of all the gasoline production in SoCal just went with it.
(you see the weakness in the plan of having just a few really big refineries, as opposed to a much larger number of intermediate sized ones)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK8 )
Liberal sabotage. These things just seem to keep happening lately. First it was food facilities exploding randomly. Now, energy and American production facilities.
The left is Terminator and will not stop.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (PpBto)
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YouTube has an entire genre of videos that are just shit to fall asleep to. I think it’s like 90% of what I watch.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (09LSL)
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I have to pay 100% full property taxes for my business, we are in the same county as Intel. They bring them in with huge tax incentives to create jobs then lay everyone off, like has happened recently. Its complete BS, we are going to go out of business soon because we already owe back property taxes.
Posted by: KarlHungus at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (zB2xb)
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Posted by: XTC at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (UnA8
Nope didn't even read it. Blade is a very smart guy but I don't feel a need to respond to all of his posts.
Nope didn't even read it. Blade is a very smart guy but I don't feel a need to respond to all of his posts.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (PFs9e)
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231 Dude I follow on X posted his 1.99 per gallon find outside of San Antonio this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK
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Just, like, build some more refineries. Boom. Done. Gas problem fixed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK
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Just, like, build some more refineries. Boom. Done. Gas problem fixed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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>>Finally got Mrs D, who controls the magic wands of power, to cancel Netflix. The final straw was watching the Kera Knightly spy series and in the middle of the story they throw in two guys going at it.
Done.
I canceled my Netflix about six months ago and that very show and the scene you mentioned is exactly why I did it.
Black Swan or something like that, as I recall.
Done.
I canceled my Netflix about six months ago and that very show and the scene you mentioned is exactly why I did it.
Black Swan or something like that, as I recall.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (Y1sOo)
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Capitalism is apparently just socialism for the rich.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (jLQYw)
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Capitalism is apparently just socialism for the rich.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (jLQYw)
As a word, it was coined by Marx to mean exactly that.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (jLQYw)
As a word, it was coined by Marx to mean exactly that.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2025 12:04 PM (VoAdT)
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Even in the corporate world, the younger generations aren't willing to work as hard or long as the older gens.
I suspect that this is based on the widespread, mistaken, belief that social media 'influencers' make tons of money and live on easy street for doing nothing while failing to understand that:
- many of the female influencers are prostitutes.
- much of the wealth flaunted is rented, fake, or financed.
Everything has become a scam. Everyone be lookin' to make they bag. Morals have died, ethics have died, community has died.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (ExV1e)
I don't know about that, but there are plenty of people who worked long and hard and watched the fuckups move up the ladder while they continued to work long and hard for the promise of advancement that never came. Some of them ale watched their parents and friends do the same thing. So why work yourself to death based on promises you've never seen kept? Chasing a carrot that the carrot-holder will make sure you never get?
I suspect that this is based on the widespread, mistaken, belief that social media 'influencers' make tons of money and live on easy street for doing nothing while failing to understand that:
- many of the female influencers are prostitutes.
- much of the wealth flaunted is rented, fake, or financed.
Everything has become a scam. Everyone be lookin' to make they bag. Morals have died, ethics have died, community has died.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 11:59 AM (ExV1e)
I don't know about that, but there are plenty of people who worked long and hard and watched the fuckups move up the ladder while they continued to work long and hard for the promise of advancement that never came. Some of them ale watched their parents and friends do the same thing. So why work yourself to death based on promises you've never seen kept? Chasing a carrot that the carrot-holder will make sure you never get?
Posted by: Sacrificing yourself for a lie isn't a work ethic at October 03, 2025 12:04 PM (TbWk/)
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I've become more populist on economic issues, especially when it comes to the .01% types and Wall Street, Private Equity, etc. It also bears repeating the crowd that benefits from these policies are not MAGA at all.
Posted by: Leupold at October 03, 2025 12:04 PM (eIzlH)
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Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (0XN1P)
Trump handed over 6 Trillion for COVID relief.
Trump handed over 6 Trillion for COVID relief.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (EYmYM)
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It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Texas' electric grid is also separate, albeit with interconnects, but those will trip to protect us.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Texas' electric grid is also separate, albeit with interconnects, but those will trip to protect us.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (ExV1e)
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Have the ffbbii dress up as teachers and have them confront youth and tell them all to disband, go home.
Oh, who paid you guys?
Oh, who paid you guys?
Posted by: dreamingrobot at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (EyfuW)
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The problem is that those competitors may or may not be based in foreign lands, and additionally that we all live in the short run in a specific place and time. And often the issue on some industries is that they become natural monopolies due to the scale of capital needed for startups and first mover advantage. That is leaving aside the inevitable government/monopoly or oligopoly capture.
Whig,
Valid points.
In a global economy foreign competition is inevitable and not necessarily bad. And across a given industry, competition "should" make that industr better.
Whig,
Valid points.
In a global economy foreign competition is inevitable and not necessarily bad. And across a given industry, competition "should" make that industr better.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (2WIwB)
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It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Blame the EPA in part for that--different regions and different non attainment urban areas (most of them) get different packages of additives etc so that it often takes an executive order from a disaster like a refinery shutting down to be waivered so that gas from one area can be sold in another.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Blame the EPA in part for that--different regions and different non attainment urban areas (most of them) get different packages of additives etc so that it often takes an executive order from a disaster like a refinery shutting down to be waivered so that gas from one area can be sold in another.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (WDjG6)
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Yet predictable, the adults in the room buggered our youths for several decades with wars, endless spending siphoned off to cronies, allowing mass monopolies under the rubric of free enterprise, so that the yutes decide being buggered by socialism is preferable than the status quo.
Posted by: Boomer what says kids don't wanna work no more at October 03, 2025 11:57 AM
This can't be said enough. The youth's hatred of the Boomers & crony capitalism isn't without merit or unearned.
Posted by: Boomer what says kids don't wanna work no more at October 03, 2025 11:57 AM
This can't be said enough. The youth's hatred of the Boomers & crony capitalism isn't without merit or unearned.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (IifOV)
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Finally got Mrs D, who controls the magic wands of power, to cancel Netflix. The final straw was watching the Kera Knightly spy series and in the middle of the story they throw in two guys going at it.
Done.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
The Lively and Occasionally Stubborn Mrs naturalfake, won't quit Netflix because she loves the Korean movies and dramas.
She rarely watches the other stuff. Sometimes movies, but we've pretty much given up on series until they finish and are universally acclaimed...which is rare.
Done.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
The Lively and Occasionally Stubborn Mrs naturalfake, won't quit Netflix because she loves the Korean movies and dramas.
She rarely watches the other stuff. Sometimes movies, but we've pretty much given up on series until they finish and are universally acclaimed...which is rare.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 03, 2025 12:06 PM (iJfKG)
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I live near the Intel factory and they really want to not complete the factory, They widened 161 just for the Intel, and the news here keeps reporting that Intel wants to sell the Factory. They poured a ton of money for this project that they don't want to finish
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 03, 2025 12:06 PM (FCrpy)
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A decade of promoting known incompetents and utter morons because they check a box has pretty much put the final nail in the work ethic coffin.
A decade of promoting known incompetents and utter morons because they check a box has pretty much put the final nail in the work ethic coffin.
Posted by: Paolotato at October 03, 2025 12:06 PM (g6TN6)
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I don't think tiktokkers move the needle much. Watching people "climb the ladder" by being actual psychopaths while they and their friends who try to be good employees get shat on and disciplined and even fired for their efforts.... that's what has most people i know of giving up on anything like a work ethic.
Anecdata. But still.
Anecdata. But still.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2025 12:07 PM (VoAdT)
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Posted by: Sacrificing yourself for a lie isn't a work ethic at October 03, 2025 12:04 PM (TbWk/)
You’re not a failure until you start blaming others for your failures.
Way to go.
You’re not a failure until you start blaming others for your failures.
Way to go.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 12:07 PM (EYmYM)
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Dude I follow on X posted his 1.99 per gallon find outside of San Antonio this morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK
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Just, like, build some more refineries. Boom. Done. Gas problem fixed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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CA imposes all kinds of insane taxes and regs on gas and gas sales that pump up the price. Individual cities like LA probably do as well.
I fill up at Costco in NJ and it's about $3.50 for 93.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
It's somewhat amusing that the Texas gasoline marketplace is completely divorced from the California marketplace.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK
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Just, like, build some more refineries. Boom. Done. Gas problem fixed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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CA imposes all kinds of insane taxes and regs on gas and gas sales that pump up the price. Individual cities like LA probably do as well.
I fill up at Costco in NJ and it's about $3.50 for 93.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 12:07 PM (iFTx/)
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206.
Watching fat, safe Democrat politicians beg their uncontrollable foot soldiers to do their dirty work because the politicians themselves are completely impotent is darkly amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Skinny, safe Democratic politicians stirred up their foot soldiers to do their dirty work in my area a few years back. No response was permitted. That was imaginable then.
Watching fat, safe Democrat politicians beg their uncontrollable foot soldiers to do their dirty work because the politicians themselves are completely impotent is darkly amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Skinny, safe Democratic politicians stirred up their foot soldiers to do their dirty work in my area a few years back. No response was permitted. That was imaginable then.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 12:07 PM (NFX2v)
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Just, like, build some more refineries. Boom. Done. Gas problem fixed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
That is exactly what should be done. Problem; from groundbreaking to first production is always at least 5 years. So if they repeal all of their restrictive laws and really push hard starting right now, California may be able to alleviate their problems beginning about 2030.
Much more likely - all heavy manufacturing begins its final exodus from the state.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
That is exactly what should be done. Problem; from groundbreaking to first production is always at least 5 years. So if they repeal all of their restrictive laws and really push hard starting right now, California may be able to alleviate their problems beginning about 2030.
Much more likely - all heavy manufacturing begins its final exodus from the state.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:08 PM (uWKK8)
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Ooops, Portland!
@nicksortor
🚨 BREAKING: Attorney General Pam Bondi has ORDERED a full investigation, led by Asst. AG Harmeet Dhillon, of the Portland Police Bureau, following my wrongful arrest last night, Bondi confirmed to me.
FAFO, @PortlandPolice
@AGPamBondi personally called me to deliver this news, and I’m incredibly grateful to her for doing so.
The Trump DOJ WILL NOT allow Portland Police to continue to do the bidding of Antifa.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (GbwPZ)
Massive civil rights lawsuit should be filed. Maybe even class action.
@nicksortor
🚨 BREAKING: Attorney General Pam Bondi has ORDERED a full investigation, led by Asst. AG Harmeet Dhillon, of the Portland Police Bureau, following my wrongful arrest last night, Bondi confirmed to me.
FAFO, @PortlandPolice
@AGPamBondi personally called me to deliver this news, and I’m incredibly grateful to her for doing so.
The Trump DOJ WILL NOT allow Portland Police to continue to do the bidding of Antifa.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (GbwPZ)
Massive civil rights lawsuit should be filed. Maybe even class action.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 03, 2025 12:08 PM (i24o9)
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If you're not going to get promoted or get a significant raise, you don't have to work any harder than Shaniqua or D'vontae
If you're not going to get promoted or get a significant raise, you don't have to work any harder than Shaniqua or D'vontae
Posted by: Paolotato at October 03, 2025 12:08 PM (g6TN6)
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Pritzker: Noem should "no longer be able to step foot" in Illinois without accountability as she visits Broadview ICE facility
Posted by: L - No nic
And just what sort of accountability would that be, Fatso, you fat fucking fuckfaced fatty? Well past time to lock him up for incitement.
Posted by: L - No nic
And just what sort of accountability would that be, Fatso, you fat fucking fuckfaced fatty? Well past time to lock him up for incitement.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 03, 2025 12:08 PM (aKxcI)
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NASA lost a shuttle and seven astronauts at least indirectly due to a ban on Asbestos. Feynman highlighted the O-ring trouble with solid rocket boosters but if you read the report, the deletion of asbestos putty used to pack around the O-rings was at least as disastrous.
The loss of the heat shield tiles on the other shuttle was, according to rumor control, at least in part due to inadequate cleaning of the surfaces prior to installation, resulting in poor adhesion. They banned the use of suitable solvents.
Lead paint is not healthy to be sure, but I’ve no doubt it makes for a superior coating. I expect it is much less prone to flaking or cracking over time. Don’t lick the walls, people!
The loss of the heat shield tiles on the other shuttle was, according to rumor control, at least in part due to inadequate cleaning of the surfaces prior to installation, resulting in poor adhesion. They banned the use of suitable solvents.
Lead paint is not healthy to be sure, but I’ve no doubt it makes for a superior coating. I expect it is much less prone to flaking or cracking over time. Don’t lick the walls, people!
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I live near the Intel factory and they really want to not complete the factory, They widened 161 just for the Intel, and the news here keeps reporting that Intel wants to sell the Factory. They poured a ton of money for this project that they don't want to finish
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 03, 2025 12:06 PM (FCrpy)
Denton, Tx did that for Texas Instruments years ago. Completed Loop 288 construction on the north end, gave tax incentives and even covered the costs of building the facility. TI said they weren't interested, but Denton pushed forward. They expected it to boom, started building an Outlet Mall near by and expected hotels to come in an build.
TI occupied the facility for maybe 18 months and shut it down. It sat vacant for a spell, now is a part of the UNT Technology Department.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 03, 2025 12:06 PM (FCrpy)
Denton, Tx did that for Texas Instruments years ago. Completed Loop 288 construction on the north end, gave tax incentives and even covered the costs of building the facility. TI said they weren't interested, but Denton pushed forward. They expected it to boom, started building an Outlet Mall near by and expected hotels to come in an build.
TI occupied the facility for maybe 18 months and shut it down. It sat vacant for a spell, now is a part of the UNT Technology Department.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (PpBto)
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I don't know about that, but there are plenty of people who worked long and hard and watched the fuckups move up the ladder while they continued to work long and hard for the promise of advancement that never came. Some of them ale watched their parents and friends do the same thing. So why work yourself to death based on promises you've never seen kept? Chasing a carrot that the carrot-holder will make sure you never get?
Posted by: Sacrificing yourself for a lie isn't a work ethic at October 03, 2025 12:04 PM (TbWk/)
My wife and I worked long and hard and watched fuckups move up the ladder while they continued to work long and hard. We lived beneath our means, saved what we didn't spend, invested where we could, and - yes - got a bit lucky.
Lots of folks don't want success in 30-40 years. They don't want to forgo their venti double latte with eight squirts for financial independence someday.
To paraphrase the immortal words of Queen, "They want it all, and they want it now."
Posted by: Sacrificing yourself for a lie isn't a work ethic at October 03, 2025 12:04 PM (TbWk/)
My wife and I worked long and hard and watched fuckups move up the ladder while they continued to work long and hard. We lived beneath our means, saved what we didn't spend, invested where we could, and - yes - got a bit lucky.
Lots of folks don't want success in 30-40 years. They don't want to forgo their venti double latte with eight squirts for financial independence someday.
To paraphrase the immortal words of Queen, "They want it all, and they want it now."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (ExV1e)
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Cis, no person of color, pushing past youthful - no, I think you do.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 03, 2025 12:10 PM (NFX2v)
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Cal has no pipelines - thanks Demonrats. I have a good friend who used to work at that El Secundo refinery - he told me that he has friends who still work there. His estimate was that CA gas would go to $10.00 gal without that refinery. Remember CA has special gas due to its higher environmental requirements than the rest of the country. Two other refineries in the state are due to go offline in a few months due to CA government rulings. The only ways to get gas into CA are rail and by ship.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at October 03, 2025 12:10 PM (Da7Vv)
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Nood. Strippers.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
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The Blade is having an orgy over on the nude thread, yo
Posted by: Elric The Blade at October 03, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
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The Trump DOJ WILL NOT allow Portland Police to continue to do the bidding of Antifa.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (GbwPZ)
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I surprise myself to reason this way, and it still rings a little bit specious to me:
Federalism provides benefits to the basic functions of government, not instead of them.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 03, 2025 11:17 AM (GbwPZ)
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I surprise myself to reason this way, and it still rings a little bit specious to me:
Federalism provides benefits to the basic functions of government, not instead of them.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2025 12:11 PM (krQz2)
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Finally got Mrs D, who controls the magic wands of power, to cancel Netflix. The final straw was watching the Kera Knightly spy series and in the middle of the story they throw in two guys going at it.
Done.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
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Working on the woman for Disney+.
Done.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2025 11:58 AM (2WIwB)
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Working on the woman for Disney+.
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Posted by: Common Tater at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (ISwP0)
You forgot about the lack of asbestos in the twin towers.
You forgot about the lack of asbestos in the twin towers.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 12:11 PM (EYmYM)
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Blame the EPA in part for that--different regions and different non attainment urban areas (most of them) get different packages of additives etc so that it often takes an executive order from a disaster like a refinery shutting down to be waivered so that gas from one area can be sold in another.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (WDjG6)
The worst part (for California) is that there's no efficient way to ship refined product from Texas to the west coast - no pipelines were ever built along that route, unlike the pipelines that connect to the northeast. Trains and over the road tanker trucks are all, but they could never carry enough to meet the demand hole that's just opened up.
California will be stuck trying to buy gasolinie from Singapore and Indonesia, at whatever price they wish to charge.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:05 PM (WDjG6)
The worst part (for California) is that there's no efficient way to ship refined product from Texas to the west coast - no pipelines were ever built along that route, unlike the pipelines that connect to the northeast. Trains and over the road tanker trucks are all, but they could never carry enough to meet the demand hole that's just opened up.
California will be stuck trying to buy gasolinie from Singapore and Indonesia, at whatever price they wish to charge.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2025 12:12 PM (uWKK8)
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To paraphrase the immortal words of Queen, "They want it all, and they want it now."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (ExV1e)
And then the kid who just wants to succeed sees their asshole coworker, who manipulates others and plagiarizes their work, gull their feckless boss into reprimanding the very person they plagiarized, because they're Causing Problems by complaining about their work being stolen... that kid has to listen to "why are you so lazy, just work harder if you want a promotion".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (ExV1e)
And then the kid who just wants to succeed sees their asshole coworker, who manipulates others and plagiarizes their work, gull their feckless boss into reprimanding the very person they plagiarized, because they're Causing Problems by complaining about their work being stolen... that kid has to listen to "why are you so lazy, just work harder if you want a promotion".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2025 12:14 PM (VoAdT)
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I have to laugh at the rich boomer myth. Based on recent stats, the median boomer has less than $500K in accumulated financial wealth. That is more than the other cohorts, but it would only give a retiree about $1200 a month.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 03, 2025 12:15 PM (0U5gm)
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Denton, Tx did that for Texas Instruments years ago. Completed Loop 288 construction on the north end, gave tax incentives and even covered the costs of building the facility. TI said they weren't interested, but Denton pushed forward. They expected it to boom, started building an Outlet Mall near by and expected hotels to come in an build.
TI occupied the facility for maybe 18 months and shut it down. It sat vacant for a spell, now is a part of the UNT Technology Department.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (PpBto)
We at least have companies moving in, Amazon and Facebook have and are building here at over a billion and we are having a Drone factory being built
TI occupied the facility for maybe 18 months and shut it down. It sat vacant for a spell, now is a part of the UNT Technology Department.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at October 03, 2025 12:09 PM (PpBto)
We at least have companies moving in, Amazon and Facebook have and are building here at over a billion and we are having a Drone factory being built
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 03, 2025 12:15 PM (FCrpy)
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269 California will be stuck trying to buy gasolinie from Singapore and Indonesia, at whatever price they wish to charge.
excellent.
excellent.
Posted by: vladimir "montgomery burns" putin at October 03, 2025 12:17 PM (v3pYe)
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I surprise myself to reason this way, and it still rings a little bit specious to me:
Federalism provides benefits to the basic functions of government, not instead of them.
Posted by: Axeman
Madison's Federalist 46 deals with that. Basically a pragmatic argument that both states and the federal government will end up competing over who has the affections of the population. That means a non performing state or localities will eventually cause fedgov to move in to fix teh issue. If the state or locality function better, then the population as a whole will resist such incursions by Fedgov as nah bro, we got that covered.
E.g. Mississippi with its vast reading improvements without Fed input is an example and other states now beginning to return to phonics for reading as well.
Madison, as the Federalist papers were designed to sell the new Constitution, glosses over when the Federal government desires and causes dysfunction in states and localities because of being driven by trying to gain power or being at the behest of special interests to force states and localities to do bad things like trannyism and forcing gay activism into school curriculum.
Federalism provides benefits to the basic functions of government, not instead of them.
Posted by: Axeman
Madison's Federalist 46 deals with that. Basically a pragmatic argument that both states and the federal government will end up competing over who has the affections of the population. That means a non performing state or localities will eventually cause fedgov to move in to fix teh issue. If the state or locality function better, then the population as a whole will resist such incursions by Fedgov as nah bro, we got that covered.
E.g. Mississippi with its vast reading improvements without Fed input is an example and other states now beginning to return to phonics for reading as well.
Madison, as the Federalist papers were designed to sell the new Constitution, glosses over when the Federal government desires and causes dysfunction in states and localities because of being driven by trying to gain power or being at the behest of special interests to force states and localities to do bad things like trannyism and forcing gay activism into school curriculum.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:18 PM (WDjG6)
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274 Madison, as the Federalist papers were designed to sell the new Constitution, glosses over when the Federal government desires and causes dysfunction in states and localities because of being driven by trying to gain power or being at the behest of special interests to force states and localities to do bad things like trannyism and forcing gay activism into school curriculum.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:18 PM (WDjG6)
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Uh...Jay wrote those. Pretty sure...
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:18 PM (WDjG6)
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Uh...Jay wrote those. Pretty sure...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
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This is what corporations do now to inflate their profit and share price.
But they make a lot of enemies along the way. I don't ever want to see the effing airlines come to congress for a bailout when their CEOs make effing $25 million to $33 million per year. And the seating is so tiny you can't even bend over to pick something up from the floor.
But they make a lot of enemies along the way. I don't ever want to see the effing airlines come to congress for a bailout when their CEOs make effing $25 million to $33 million per year. And the seating is so tiny you can't even bend over to pick something up from the floor.
Posted by: Random PJ at October 03, 2025 12:23 PM (RRCAT)
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271 I have to laugh at the rich boomer myth. Based on recent stats, the median boomer has less than $500K in accumulated financial wealth. That is more than the other cohorts, but it would only give a retiree about $1200 a month.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Gen Z due to open borders, DEI, and other nasty policies such as the accumulated debt of the US are living in austerity. Some you may argue are self caused like student loan debt servitude but that impoverishment is likely to lead to politics of resentment and socialism because they view the entire system as unfair to them.
One can argue whether factually that is true or not but the argument that generations ahead of them screwed them royally is hard to refute.
And I am a late Boomer and agree with them.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Gen Z due to open borders, DEI, and other nasty policies such as the accumulated debt of the US are living in austerity. Some you may argue are self caused like student loan debt servitude but that impoverishment is likely to lead to politics of resentment and socialism because they view the entire system as unfair to them.
One can argue whether factually that is true or not but the argument that generations ahead of them screwed them royally is hard to refute.
And I am a late Boomer and agree with them.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:24 PM (WDjG6)
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Uh...Jay wrote those. Pretty sure...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He dropped out TJM as you well know quite early. You would do better to blame it on Hamilton. BTW, when do you get your hit musical on Broadway?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He dropped out TJM as you well know quite early. You would do better to blame it on Hamilton. BTW, when do you get your hit musical on Broadway?
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:25 PM (WDjG6)
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278 Uh...Jay wrote those. Pretty sure...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He dropped out TJM as you well know quite early. You would do better to blame it on Hamilton. BTW, when do you get your hit musical on Broadway?
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:25 PM (WDjG6)
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Because Jay dropped out earlier, it made it funnier!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He dropped out TJM as you well know quite early. You would do better to blame it on Hamilton. BTW, when do you get your hit musical on Broadway?
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2025 12:25 PM (WDjG6)
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Because Jay dropped out earlier, it made it funnier!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 03, 2025 12:26 PM (GBKbO)
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The absurdity and self-dealing inherent in public company stock buy-backs is illustrated by one fact: if the entity were privately held, executives would never spend cash buying back stock of minority holders.
Posted by: Nothing says common sense like cash at October 03, 2025 12:30 PM (FDHV4)
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The largest gas refinery on the west coast just blew up in El Segundo California. Get read for $7.00 per gallon gas (if not more) on the west coast.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
Somebody doesn't read The Morning Report. For shame!! *wags finger*
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 03, 2025 11:13 AM (IifOV)
Somebody doesn't read The Morning Report. For shame!! *wags finger*
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 03, 2025 12:34 PM (5xuJ/)
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My mother retired at 55 years old from Walgreens after 30 years and never made over $10 an hour as a Pharmacy Tech. My father had her put in the max contribution for every financial program they had because he knew when he passed he would not to be able to leave her anything since he was basically uninsurable because of type 1 diabetes. Also his military pension would end.
He was prescient since he died at 55 years old . But my mother was set for life because of his advice.
You don’t have to live in poverty but you need to live within your means. You don’t have to get an updated iPhone whenever a new one comes out for example.
I don’t think the last two generations understand that.
He was prescient since he died at 55 years old . But my mother was set for life because of his advice.
You don’t have to live in poverty but you need to live within your means. You don’t have to get an updated iPhone whenever a new one comes out for example.
I don’t think the last two generations understand that.
Posted by: Willie Nailer at October 03, 2025 12:44 PM (EYmYM)
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Late to the party but it IS worth remembering that socialism has LONG appealed to the young. Just look at who supported McGovern in 1972.
Posted by: Cow Demon at October 03, 2025 01:00 PM (EL2O4)
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My new house used Sherwin Williams. The builder gave me a free gallon of interior paint for touch up. I bought a gallon of exterior on my own and was shocked at the cost.
Posted by: Willie Nailer
Sherman William does a 40% off sale 4 times a year (or something like that). The contractors load up on paint at that point.
Stupid concept. It’s much better paint than home despot behr (I’ve used both) and they should offer it at a competitive price where they aren’t losing.
Increase the customer base from people who randomly go in and say omg this is too expensive I’ll go to home despot.
Posted by: Willie Nailer
Sherman William does a 40% off sale 4 times a year (or something like that). The contractors load up on paint at that point.
Stupid concept. It’s much better paint than home despot behr (I’ve used both) and they should offer it at a competitive price where they aren’t losing.
Increase the customer base from people who randomly go in and say omg this is too expensive I’ll go to home despot.
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