Israel, US Offer Hamas "Historic" Peace Deal But Hamas, Of Course, Refuses

The peace deal demands Hamas release the hostages it's held for two full years (as of the weekend) and disarm.

Of course Hamas is refusing. They intend to make war and kill and rape Jews forever.

On Monday, President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced a peace plan to end their conflict with Gaza. Hamas must now agree to the terms.
"This can be done the easy way or the hard way, but it must be done," Netanyahu said in a statement to the press at the White House.
The plan received praise from Republican members of Congress, but also from unexpected sources like the Palestinian government, which serves as the bureaucratic arm of Gaza governance. Rep. Tom Tiffany, R-Wisc., told Just The News, "Think about when President Trump went to the Arabic countries very early on in his second term. He was treated with great respect, and he treated them with great respect. It's the same with Israel and the Jewish people."
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Importantly, the Palestinian Authority committed to implementing the reforms, including holding new elections and ending its system that pays the families of Palestinians involved in attacks on Israel, per the Associated Press.
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The proposed 20-point peace agreement aims to transform Gaza into a "deradicalized," terror-free zone that would, in theory, no longer pose a threat to its neighbors, with the immediate ending of hostilities upon acceptance by both Israel and Hamas. Israeli forces would withdraw to a designated line, suspending all military operations, while Hamas would return all hostages within 72 hours of Israel's public agreement. In return, Israel would release 250 life-sentence prisoners, 1,700 Gazans detained after October 7, 2023, and the remains of deceased Gazans proportional to Israeli hostage remains.
Hamas members committing to peace and disarmament would receive amnesty or safe passage to leave Gaza, ensuring no further role in its governance. Additionally, full humanitarian aid, consistent with the January 19, 2025, agreement, would flow into Gaza without interference, managed by neutral international organizations, with the Rafah crossing operating under the same mechanism.

The "hard way" mentioned by Netanyahu might just be a
final siege of Gaza City and the complete eradication of the terrrorists there.

The city is now surrounded so that no one can get in or out.

The IDF confirms it has "operational control" over the western portion of the Netzarim Corridor in central Gaza, preventing Palestinians from returning to Gaza City.
In the past day, the 99th Division began a ground operation aimed at "strengthening and maintaining operational control over the Netzarim Corridor," the military says.
"The troops operated to disrupt the operational capabilities of the Hamas terror organization in the area and to expand operational control in the sector," the army adds.

Southbound movement from Gaza City is still permitted, though Defense Minister Israel Katz said Palestinians would need to go through army checkpoints. He said earlier today that civilians now have their "last opportunity" to leave.

Trump declared he'd defend Qatar from attacks -- from Israel, of course, should they bomb the Hamas leadership that is still granted haven there. (I know Israel bombed some of their penthouse bunkers but reports say that almost all of the leadership survived.)

I'm sure Trump is doing this for tactical diplomatic reasons. He's probably getting Qatar to pressure Hamas.

But he's done what he never before did for Israel: He made a guarantee of American military aid should Qatar be attacked. By Israel.

Trump gives Qatar unprecedented security guarantee after Israeli attack
President Trump signed on Monday an executive order to provide Qatar a U.S. security guarantee with conditions similar to NATO's Article 5, according to the text of the order published by the White House.
Why it matters: This is an unprecedented security agreement between the U.S. and an Arab country. It says the U.S. will treat any "armed attack" on the country "as a threat to the peace and security of the United States" and respond accordingly.
The upgraded U.S. security guarantee is part of the "compensation" to Qatar for the failed Israeli strike against Hamas officials in Doha three weeks ago.
Because it was issued via executive order, the security guarantee is less binding than a Senate-approved mutual defense treaty.
The intrigue: The order was signed on Monday, the same day Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited the White House, but was only made public to days later.
What it says: "[I]n light of the continuing threats to the State of Qatar posed by foreign aggression, it is the policy of the United States to guarantee the security and territorial integrity of the State of Qatar against external attack".

An Article 5-like guarantee to come to the direct aid of a foreign country!

Still, this presents a problem for the pro-Hamas "American Firsters" of the American pseudoright like Tucker Carlson, who just wants to ask endless questions about America's alliance with Israel. These supposed champions of strict non-internetionism shrieked about America's one night of bombing on Iran's nuke facilities, but are oddly quiet about America promising to defend a foreign country against Israel.

But I thought the "Just Askin' Questions" Troika of Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and now Megyn Kelly all opposed the US extending any military aid to Israel, not because they're anti-Jewish, but just on strict principle.

Has nothing to do with Israel, they declare, it's just that we oppose all American intervention on behalf of any country.

But now that Trump has made a NATO Article 5 level guarantee to defend Qatar against Israel, the totally-not-antisemitic principled objectors to any foreign entanglements are stone silent.

Defend Israel -- NEVER!

Defend Qatar against Israel -- sounds good! Sign us up!

It's almost as if -- see if you can follow my logic on this -- that they're not "anti-war" or "anti-foreign-intervention," but simply on the other side.

Posted by: Ace at 04:25 PM

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1 That's Hamas for ya.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:26 PM (ynpvh)

2 Oh, and 1st!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:26 PM (ynpvh)

3 3rd?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:27 PM (ynpvh)

4 C'mon guys, I NOODED already!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:27 PM (ynpvh)

5 Armoured D-7s to the sea in Gaza.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:27 PM (Vtnix)

6 5th?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:27 PM (ynpvh)

7 Do we have a running death count yet because of the Federal Government closure ???

Must be at least 2 million by now ?

Posted by: Jackson at October 01, 2025 04:27 PM (J9q9v)

8 Send the abhuman Felinids after Hamas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBRCyplHSs8

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Vtnix)

9 Make them an offer they can't refuse.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 04:29 PM (vFG9F)

10
The "hard way" mentioned by Netanyahu might just be a
final siege of Gaza City and the complete eradication of the terrrorists there.

Every now and then I'll see a more or less well meaning person argue that sure Israel had a right to respond to the Oct 7 attacks but....civilians are dying now so they have to stop.

What the hell do people think war is? Israel is doing a damn good job of minimizing civilian casualties and frankly way more then they should...but this is war.

Its why a moral Hamas leadership would not have wanted to start one even if they had some right to steal land from Israel...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:29 PM (sKqQm)

11 7 Do we have a running death count yet because of the Federal Government closure ???

Must be at least 2 million by now ?

Posted by: Jackson at October 01, 2025 04:27 PM (J9q9v)

How many federal-funded abortions didn't happen today?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (ynpvh)

12 The West and Israel have been making deals for decades, but they keep walking away.

So kill them until they surrender.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (Vtnix)

13 "But now that Trump has made a NATO Article 5 level guarantee to defend Qatar against Israel, the totally-not-antisemitic principled objectors to any foreign entanglements are stone silent."

It's a trap!

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (i0F8b)

14 Still, this presents a problem for the pro-Hamas "American Firsters" of the American pseudoright like Tucker Carlson, who just wants to ask endless questions about America's alliance with Israel. These supposed champions of strict non-internetionism shrieked about America's one night of bombing on Iran's nuke facilities, but are oddly quiet about America promising to defend a foreign country against Israel.
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Yep!

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (g47mK)

15 Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (mOYn9)

16 They keep talking "From the River to the Sea"...Well, give 'em the sea if that's what they want.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (ynpvh)

17 The Qatar thing is weird and disappointing. What the fuck is that about?

Posted by: Am I missing something? at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (TbWk/)

18 Trump has really reached the end of his rope with Dems and is now openly trolling them.

He just sent out a tweet: "Whatever you do, don't drink your own piss!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (G5HPk)

19
Megyn Kelly should not be lumped in with owens.

Dennis Prager, at death's door, from his hospital bed, just made a video defending Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (WopJV)

20 Huh. I thought Ham-ass would have withheld their answer until the US coughed up a few million in consideration or something. Then again, they are assholes.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (mlg/3)

21 15 Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (mOYn9)

Who'll be the Trustee of Bibendum?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (ynpvh)

22 Has nothing to do with Israel, they declare, it's just that we oppose all American intervention on behalf of any country.

TBH I'm part way there after watching our last few military endeavors.

But...the one that boggles my mind the most are people that want the US to enter the Uke war AND to stop supporting Israel because its immoral to fight a war or something.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (sKqQm)

23 What exactly does Hamas think they will get?

They're trying to make fetch happen, but it's not going to happen.

Get in line or get dead.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (PMtkd)

24 Make them an offer they can't refuse.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 04:29 PM (vFG9F)

Accept the deal or we send The View.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (i24o9)

25 Seriously, Trump never thought for a second Hamas would accept this deal. He just wanted to clear Israel for their extermination.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (pohLc)

26 At what point does the US and Israel say enough is enough and bomb the $hit out of them? I get there are thousands of innocents there but at some point we have to shoot the rabid dog in Israel's back yard. I doubt seriously that any Arab nation will bitch too much.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (0N4FZ)

27 Qatar is an extremely wealthy gas station that pretends to be a country. The only serious military equipment there is the giant American base, the biggest in the middle east.

Of course the Qatari elites are always fucking around and double dealing everyone for a profit - do you think anyone else in the middle east is different? And no, they're not particularly religious, they've just found that in that part of the world, it's quite profitable to mouth all the customary dogma. But the only thing they have ever truly worshipped is Gold.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (uWKK8)

28 More have died of Tylenol OD than have from the government shutdown.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (Vtnix)

29
He just sent out a tweet: "Whatever you do, don't drink your own piss!!"/i]

Hey, I do what I want!

/Takes big drink

Tastes like victory!

Posted by: Gandhi as Cartman at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (sKqQm)

30 This can be done the easy way or the hard way, but it must be done," Netanyahu said in a statement to the press at the White House.

I likes ya, and I wants ya

Posted by: Fleece Netanyahu at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (TbWk/)

31 TBH I'm part way there after watching our last few military endeavors.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (sKqQm)

I'm all the way there.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (i24o9)

32 Candace Ovens is now pushing a conspiracy that Charlie Kirk was killed by a US government sniper.

Which she is, you watch, going to then tie into the other conspiracy that he was killed because he was going to start speaking out against Israel.

But, she just asking questions, you know?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (pM0o/)

33 Willowed, on "Citizen's Arrest":
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I've heard that a lot of cops hate when they get called to a 'citizens arrest' and will look for any reason to invalidate it, once they get to the site.

Then of course they'll give the arrester a hard time and basically call them a jackass...

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 01, 2025 04:26 PM (G5HPk)
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We live in an era of the "expert's" disdain for the layman.

However, this goes back when I was a kid. My dad took a bb-gun away from a kid that putting visible holes in our windows with it.

Cops showed up and threatened him with theft. *They* didn't see that kid shoot at our house (because my dad had the gun! Officer Duh!) and so we couldn't prove that my dad was justified in taking the bb-gun away because we couldn't prove the holes came from the kid's bb-gun.

So, according to cops, my dad was *lucky* he didn't get run in for theft.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (krQz2)

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:33 PM (krQz2)

34 32 Candace Ovens is now pushing a conspiracy that Charlie Kirk was killed by a US government sniper.

Which she is, you watch, going to then tie into the other conspiracy that he was killed because he was going to start speaking out against Israel.

But, she just asking questions, you know?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (pM0o/)

ISWYDT

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:33 PM (ynpvh)

35 Candace Ovens?

Good typo

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:33 PM (Vtnix)

36 29
He just sent out a tweet: "Whatever you do, don't drink your own piss!!"/i]

Hey, I do what I want!

/Takes big drink

Tastes like victory!

Posted by: Gandhi as Cartman at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (sKqQm)

...

Posted by: Bear Grylls at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (ynpvh)

37 Abba Eben said " the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity". This applies to Hamas perfectly

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (A2I8b)

38 Here's a fun one for the left.

You think we should shoot NAZIs right?

So imagine in 1944 a group of NAZIs held up in a French hospital with a bunch of Jewish hostages.

Is it immoral to shoot them because the hostages or adjacent Frenchmen might get hurt, or immoral to NOT shoot them because they are NAZIs that kidnap and murder Jews?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (sKqQm)

39 Of course this can set the stage to end the Gaza war. If Hamas refuses, then Israel draws the noose tighter. Absolutely level whatever is left standing 100 meters a day. Bomb, blowup, bulldoze. Absolutely destruction. No quarter given. After about a week we may see a change of mind.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (2WIwB)

40 >>>This can be done the easy way or the hard way, but it must be done," Netanyahu said in a statement to the press at the White House.

Do it the hard way. Level the place. Don't care.

Just do it without U.S. personnel.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (i24o9)

41 Dropping the hosts of The Spew would require a C-5B I think to handle the weight.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (Vtnix)

42 Qatar is 300,00 America-hating Jew-hating Arab slavers and their 2 million African and Asian slaves.

Less a country than a plantation.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (1K1A+)

43 Axeman, agreed, thanks.

I think it's an open secret, too many cops don't really GAF about their jobs. They're there largely for the fact they can retire with *full bennies* at 50 years old.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (G5HPk)

44 Candace Ovens?

Good typo
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It was intentional.
But I can't take credit--another moron coined that

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (pM0o/)

45 I think the Senate should take some time...maybe a couple of days...or weeks...or months...and think about what it is they really, really want. And then maybe schedule a "reconciliation meeting" a week...or a month...or so after that. And then maybe after a few more weeks...or months...of negotiating, they could find a way to end this standoff.

Posted by: Crusader at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (TN0g+)

46 I imagine the Hamas meetings went like this.

Hamas Peon 1: "So wait! You're saying if we sign this, we can't kill ANY Jews?"

Interim Hamas Leader: "That's right."

Hamas Peon 2: "At all?"

Interim Hamas Leader: "At all. You can't even hurt them."

Hamas Peon 2: "So I have a homemade rocket. I just want to see if it works. I point it at the settlements and.."

Interim Hamas Leader: "You can't hurt the Jews!!"

Hamas Peon 1: " Just to clarify, Abdul, Mohammad, Mo and I are in Gaza. Two unarmed Jews walk into the bar!"

Interim Hamas Leader: "You can't hirt the Jews!"

Hamas Peon 3: "This deal sucks!"

Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 18.1% at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (Sco7b)

47 Qatar's Article 5 - type guarantees from the US are unprecedented. US eschewed from doing anything about Russia's violations of various Eastern NATO borders, but are willing to go to war with an ally to defend a terror and jihadi sponsoring state ? for some short term benefit and kudos ? kinda stupid.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

48 They say there is a fine line twixt genius and insanity. Candice has clearly stepped into the twilight zone.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (pohLc)

49 26 At what point does the US and Israel say enough is enough and bomb the $hit out of them? I get there are thousands of innocents there but at some point we have to shoot the rabid dog in Israel's back yard. I doubt seriously that any Arab nation will bitch too much.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (0N4FZ)

Although I have been a strong supporter of Isreal's, I also have been highly critical of the way that they have fucked around and fucked around and fucked around and always found reasons to put off actually and finally ending the Gaza war, which they could do within days if they really wanted to.

The hostages are tragic, of course. Allowing this war to go on and on forever is even more tragic. Accept that they're going to die, that you can't do anything about it, and deal with it. The future of the Nation is more important than that of a few tragic individuals.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (uWKK8)

50 You got my notes!

Posted by: Cy Scofield at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (nmw7B)

51 If I'm synthesizing this all correctly, Trump offered Hamas this deal with the knowledge they'd refuse. He offered the deal to appear to make one more bold move towards peace and explicitly said that if Hamas DIDN'T take the deal, he'd not oppose Israel wiping them out.

The deal was just the last politically-required step on the inevitable path to the eradication of Hamas.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider - Preparing for the reckoning at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (oSeBJ)

52 Cops showed up and threatened him with theft. *They* didn't see that kid shoot at our house (because my dad had the gun! Officer Duh!) and so we couldn't prove that my dad was justified in taking the bb-gun away because we couldn't prove the holes came from the kid's bb-gun.

So, according to cops, my dad was *lucky* he didn't get run in for theft.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (krQz2)

But they'll arrest you for standing on a public sidewalk with an 8.5x11 cardboard sign saying "pray for homeless vets" on the say-so of an anonymous HOA Karen.

Posted by: But they're heroes! HEROES! at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (TbWk/)

53 So many conservative influencers have gone insane recently, I'm at the point that I'd believe the NSA is sneaking them all mindbending drugs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (G5HPk)

54 Seriously, Trump never thought for a second Hamas would accept this deal. He just wanted to clear Israel for their extermination.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:32 PM (pohLc)
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It's not going to make a whit of difference in any way, except he can point to this gesture of peace.

Nobody who hates Israel is going to blame Hamas for refusing this plan. In fact, I think they already think Hamas' rejection *shows* the plan was illegitimate to begin with.

Trump is just storing up rhetorical ammo.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (krQz2)

55 The Donald has made an unforced error of biblical proportions.
God says these are my chosen people. God's words are true.

Posted by: Kingsman at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (ehY6c)

56 Under the Angzarr administration, Gaza would already have been leveled and on its way to an exclusive and much desired Med resort destination, with all of its former residents now performing their only worthwhile function as fertilizer.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (XMwZJ)

57
I really hope the Israelis eradicate and destroy Hamas, along with their supporters

It must be done for there to be peace in the Middle East.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (vK/Ja)

58 but but but the starving children in Gaza

Posted by: AWFL sobbing on TikTok at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (jGJov)

59 It's almost as if -- see if you can follow my logic on this -- that they're not "anti-war" or "anti-foreign-intervention," but simply on the other side.

Or just follow the Qatari money.

youtu.be/2aW7HweAf3o

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (sAmhv)

60 Every now and then I'll see a more or less well meaning person argue that sure Israel had a right to respond to the Oct 7 attacks but....civilians are dying now so they have to stop.

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Almost every Israeli victim on October 7 was a civilian.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (0U5gm)

61 Hamas is hoping that pressure will rise to the point that Europe or China actual sanctions, blocades or strikes Israel.

Given the rhetoric... maybe a valid possibility. Given the players, they'd piss down their legs to send actual planes to bomb Israel cause they KNOW they'd only get bodies out of it- their boys and gals.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (zZu0s)

62 (ehY6c)

What is this?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (Vtnix)

63 The SEAL who killed Bin Laden and who was also a sniper, Robert J. O'Neil, believes that something VERY hinky went on with Kirk's murder. The way the shirt moved, the shot itself, the movement of the so-called killer. He wonders why they paved over the area, no autopsy. You know, shit like that.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (PMtkd)

64 Trump also seemed to warn Israel off of taking claim to the West Bank. (Which is theirs, and they administer.)

I wonder if that is from muzzie pressure and Trump is just trying to keep that cats herded.

My solution to the West Bank is essentially, apartheid. I seriously question if the left vilified that idea as a way of creating chaos. First they went after apartheid and I said nothing since I was not South Africa. Then they came after ethnic cleansing.

OK, so what's left? Only genocide or submission.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (e0xrn)

65 I "Back the Blue" in general, but I feel that the ranks of cops have enough assholes and power-trippers among them.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (krQz2)

66 47 Qatar's Article 5 - type guarantees from the US are unprecedented. US eschewed from doing anything about Russia's violations of various Eastern NATO borders, but are willing to go to war with an ally to defend a terror and jihadi sponsoring state ? for some short term benefit and kudos ? kinda stupid.
Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

Notice this only came out after Bibi's meeting with Trump. Israel made it's point in hitting the Hamas leadership (at least some of them) there, they don't need to do it again. Forget about the so-called leadership that's there, eliminate all of the Hamas members in Gaza - every last one - and the ones in Qatar become meaningless.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (uWKK8)

67 53 So many conservative influencers have gone insane recently, I'm at the point that I'd believe the NSA is sneaking them all mindbending drugs.
Posted by: qdpsteve
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Underage kids and bags of cash would be my guess.

Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (WDjG6)

68
I think it's an open secret, too many cops don't really GAF about their jobs. They're there largely for the fact they can retire with *full bennies* at 50 years old.
Posted by: qdpsteve at October 01, 2025 04:34 PM (G5HPk)

And far too many get into it to exercise power and violence over their fellow man. Positions of power tend to attract those who would abuse power.

Posted by: Protect and serve the shit out of you at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (TbWk/)

69 Almost every Israeli victim on October 7 was a civilian.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (0U5gm)

These same civilians cheered the rapes, torture and dead bodies- fuck them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (zZu0s)

70 kinda stupid.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

To the point where it seems it was intended that it be turned down to illustrate a point about how Jew-bloodthristy Hamas is or something. I don't get it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (i24o9)

71 Hamas can't surrender, to Israel no less, without completely losing face. Which is the worst thing possible in that part of the world.

Their only hope is the grifters, via global opinion.

Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (i0F8b)

72 Every now and then I'll see a more or less well meaning person argue that sure Israel had a right to respond to the Oct 7 attacks but....civilians are dying now so they have to stop.

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Almost every Israeli victim on October 7 was a civilian.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (0U5gm)
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What difference, at this point, does that make?
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Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

73 63 The SEAL who killed Bin Laden and who was also a sniper, Robert J. O'Neil, believes that something VERY hinky went on with Kirk's murder. The way the shirt moved, the shot itself, the movement of the so-called killer. He wonders why they paved over the area, no autopsy. You know, shit like that.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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SEALS are not forensic investigators. Not their area of expertise.

Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (WDjG6)

74 32 Candace Ovens is now pushing a conspiracy that Charlie Kirk was killed by a US government sniper.

Which she is, you watch, going to then tie into the other conspiracy that he was killed because he was going to start speaking out against Israel.

But, she just asking questions, you know?

shortly after the event, i saw some on the intertubes claiming that charlie kirk was killed because he had turned down mossad money.

Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (sGtp+)

75 Have they produced any evidence in court yet of Mrs. Macron's ladyparts?

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

76 62 (ehY6c)

What is this?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:37 PM (Vtnix)

Bulge detected?

Posted by: oWo at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (TbWk/)

77 64 Trump also seemed to warn Israel off of taking claim to the West Bank. (Which is theirs, and they administer.)

I wonder if that is from muzzie pressure and Trump is just trying to keep that cats herded."

I suspect Netanyahu asked Trump to do this as a way to shut down internal pressure in his cabinet from Smotrich and Gvir.
Annexing the West Bank causes at least as many - if not more - problems than it solves for Israel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:40 PM (uWKK8)

78 Axeman and Protect, yup and yup.

Whig, also yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 01, 2025 04:40 PM (G5HPk)

79 Hamas is a cancer. No country wants them. They will not stop. Cancers need to be cut out or destroyed in some way.

Gaza looks worse than Hiroshima. I don't want to pay to rebuild it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 01, 2025 04:40 PM (PMtkd)

80 These same civilians cheered the rapes, torture and dead bodies- fuck them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (zZu0s)
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Many also refused to give up their newly-acquired citizen slaves.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:40 PM (krQz2)

81 Chamberlain offered Hitler a peace deal and he didn't take it either knowing he was after much of Europe.

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (+qU29)

82 I "Back the Blue" in general, but I feel that the ranks of cops have enough assholes and power-trippers among them.
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They've conflicted their own role in society when they issue badges and guns to motor cycle riders who lie in wait along stretches of road for the sole purpose of *stealing* money from those who drive by.

In the old west, we would have called those who lied in wait for the stage coach "outlaws" and we would have raised a posse to track them down. But now they wear blue, with a badge and department issued firearm. They do no other police work--they exist solely to take money from citizens.

Posted by: Crusader at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (TN0g+)

83
It might not be feasible because of the peace treaty it has with Egypt; but Israel could completely demolish the SUPERWALL that Egypt constructed between itself and the Gaza strip.
Then, as the IDF continued to pound Hamas into hamburger meat, the Jew-hating population of the Gaza strip would gradually relocate its evil self into Egypt.

Posted by: Bach In Black at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (KY9hS)

84 Aside from the fact that "Art. 5 guarantees" are from a treaty and that requires Senate approval.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (1K1A+)

85 we couldn't prove the holes came from the kid's bb-gun.

So, according to cops, my dad was *lucky* he didn't get run in for theft.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:31 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Axeman

Posted by: sdd;lkdl;f at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (e0xrn)

86 As far as I'm concerned, both the West bank and Gaza are Israel. Totally and completely.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (pohLc)

87 So many conservative influencers have gone insane recently, I'm at the point that I'd believe the NSA is sneaking them all mindbending drugs.
Posted by: qdpsteve
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Underage kids and bags of cash would be my guess.

Posted by: whig

"Our side" has always been infested with con men who play a role to rake in the dough. Only a handful have ever had any real credibility. That's when you don't just get straight up manufactured faces like this Hollyhand kid that's come out of nowhere lately. It's all a work, it's all grifting.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (OUMaO)

88 I really hope the Israelis eradicate and destroy Hamas, along with their supporters

It must be done for there to be peace in the Middle East.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 01, 2025 04:36 PM (vK/Ja)

That's why I don't get this move which seems to any rational person to serve to only prolong the conflict.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (i24o9)

89 The other probable Hamas meeting:

Achmed: We need someone to speak for us. Abdul you do it.
Abdul: No fu*king way dude! They'll drop a bomb on me in seconds. Make Mustafa do it.
Mustafa: Hell no! Not me. Give the job to Mohammed.
Mohammed: Piss off! No way I'm doing it.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (2WIwB)

90
Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats

You're thinking of Jane Goodrich.

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (63Dwl)

91 To avoid claims that Israel just wanted to take the land away from the Palestinians, after this is over I propose that all of Gaza be reduced back to sand and dirt, and kept as a nature preserve for snakes, lizards, and birds for at least 100 years, no human habitation of any kind allowed. Day use permits only.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (uWKK8)

92 Wouldn't it be funny if the Hamas leaders go to their new safe haven in Qatar, Israel bombs them, then Trump announces "I just learned this word that duplicitous (but I repeat myself) muslims use: Taqiyya. Eat shit and die"

Posted by: Chuck C at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (0GLZr)

93
The employees who drove Starbucks into the ground, after getting most of their "demands" a while back," are now crying because stores are closing.

FAFO, Gigante.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (WopJV)

94
For people being genocided, the Palestinians sure demand a lot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (Re0bx)

95 I "Back the Blue" in general, but I feel that the ranks of cops have enough assholes and power-trippers among them.
Absolutely. And remember, cops are now being hired under DEI guidelines in many areas.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (XMwZJ)

96 12 The West and Israel have been making deals for decades, but they keep walking away.

So kill them until they surrender.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Israeli Martin van Creveld is a prominent scholar of recent warfare---basically 5th Generation Warfare. He had this to say about the problems of the intifada,
"They [Israeli soldiers] are very brave people... they are idealists...they want to serve their country and they want to prove themselves. The problem is that you cannot prove yourself against someone who is much weaker than yourself. They are in a lose-lose situation. If you are strong and fighting the weak, then if you kill your opponent then you are a scoundrel... if you let him kill you, then you are an idiot. So here is a dilemma which others have suffered before us, and for which as far as I can see there is simply no escape. Now the Israeli army has not by any means been the worst of the lot. It has not done what for instance the Americans did in Vietnam... it did not use napalm, it did not kill millions of people. So everything is relative, but by definition, to return to what I said earlier if you are strong and you are fighting the weak, then anything you do is criminal"

Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (WDjG6)

97 65 I "Back the Blue" in general, but I feel that the ranks of cops have enough assholes and power-trippers among them.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (krQz2)

The fact that their training appears to be complete shit doesn't help. They are taught to lie and fabricate, and to manipulate and mislead people into giving up their Constitutional protections. This is antithetical to a free republican society. Their oath to the constitution is a joke when they're trained to piss on it wherever and whenever they can.

Posted by: Big blue heroes at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (TbWk/)

98 I say all humans vacate Gaza and give the land to me. Just as cromulent as what hamas asks for. And I'm a better person.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (rvwwT)

99 To the point where it seems it was intended that it be turned down to illustrate a point about how Jew-bloodthristy Hamas is or something. I don't get it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (i24o9)

Dude, these two are NOT linked. Qatar will still have US guarantee even if Hamas does not accept. See the problem ?

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (g47mK)

100 The SEAL who killed Bin Laden and who was also a sniper, Robert J. O'Neil, believes that something VERY hinky went on with Kirk's murder. The way the shirt moved, the shot itself, the movement of the so-called killer. He wonders why they paved over the area, no autopsy. You know, shit like that.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 01, 2025 04:38 PM (PMtkd)

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Except none of that is true. They 100% performed an autopsy and released the major findings as to cause of death, absence of drugs or alcohol. The full report is being kept confidential.

Posted by: Jack Package at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (8LP6B)

101 15 Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?

dibs!

Posted by: altavista at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (sGtp+)

102 Of course Hamas is refusing. They intend to make war and kill and rape Jews forever.

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Alright then, eliminate them and quickly. No more waiting around.

Posted by: Decaf at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (unUNN)

103 86 As far as I'm concerned, both the West bank and Gaza are Israel. Totally and completely.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (pohLc)

Consider this: if you make them officially a part of Isreal, then under Israeli law they all get to vote in Israeli elections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (uWKK8)

104 Qatar is not the problem.

Liechtenstein is.

The Qataris only do what the Liechtensteiners tell them to.

Nuke Vaduz!

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (77rzZ)

105 So Qatar can be (and is) two faced and be telling Hamas, 'Hold off we can get a better deal" AND get US to hide behind if they continue hosting their jihadi friends.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (g47mK)

106 "Our side" has always been infested with con men who play a role to rake in the dough. Only a handful have ever had any real credibility. That's when you don't just get straight up manufactured faces like this Hollyhand kid that's come out of nowhere lately. It's all a work, it's all grifting.
Posted by: Brother Tim

Grifting unifies the parties. Just like BLM alleging that Tides Foundation stole from them while BLM disintegrated from fakery and grifting by its own leaders.

Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (WDjG6)

107 As far as I'm concerned, both the West bank and Gaza are Israel. Totally and completely.

Reject colonialism support the 970 BC map of Israel...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (sKqQm)

108 In the old west, we would have called those who lied in wait for the stage coach "outlaws" and we would have raised a posse to track them down. But now they wear blue, with a badge and department issued firearm. They do no other police work--they exist solely to take money from citizens.
Posted by: Crusader at October 01, 2025 04:41 PM (TN0g+)

They have been known by many other names. Brigands. Bandits. Highwaymen. But they work for the state now so it's OK.

Posted by: Your eyes are (checks list) watery bloodshot and glassy at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (TbWk/)

109 yeah it's weird out there ace

I have to think money is sloshing around, hitting Candace and Megyn in the brains

Tucker is just a moby

Posted by: Black Orchid at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (FHttA)

110 Trump's 'deal' calls for the disbanding and complete surrender of Hamas. I mean, I'm fine with them being wiped out. But I wouldn't expect them to accept an offer that called for that. He's offering terms of surrender, but they aren't agreeing to surrender... Anyway, can't see that this can be painted as "Hamas walking away from peace". It's a bad offer for Hamas. Arguably a good offer for 'Palestine', but not Hamas...

Posted by: bearski at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (Bhsk7)

111 Consider this: if you make them officially a part of Isreal, then under Israeli law they all get to vote in Israeli elections.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (uWKK

Lotta potential refugees in Gaza and the West bank. Make it happen.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (pohLc)

112 We tried to give these animals the entire cake, and they refused.

Destroy them now.
They want to die, soaked in their delusional hate.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (ufFY8)

113 Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (WDjG6)

That's a very interesting observation, Whig. Thank you for sharing.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

114 "Our side" has always been infested with con men who play a role to rake in the dough. Only a handful have ever had any real credibility. That's when you don't just get straight up manufactured faces like this Hollyhand kid that's come out of nowhere lately. It's all a work, it's all grifting.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 01, 2025 04:42 PM (OUMaO)
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Con men settle where there is a niche.

That's one thing that moral secularists miss, is that unless there is a Moral Authority, everything is an economy/ecology of deceit and force. In short, "What you can get away with" is negotiated within society.

Corruption isn't "corruption" but how society agrees who benefits from what.

This is where atheist kid themselves and keep trying to reach back into the Christian cookie jar.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (krQz2)

115
Starbucks caved to a lot of the absurd demands. So how have the employees returned the favor since that strike?

By continuing to complain, by being lazy, by being ugly, by being rude to customers, and by being ingrates.

Now they have no job at Starbucks. Problem solved.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (WopJV)

116 (sorry about that garbled comment above, while typing in something pithy I dropped the keyboard.)
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Moving on, I wrote:
OK, so what's left? Only genocide or submission.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)

The Left wants submission, they will accept civil war. But it will lead to genocide.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (e0xrn)

117 He's offering terms of surrender, but they aren't agreeing to surrender..

Just like in the 40s the war will continue until they do...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (sKqQm)

118 Gaza should be an archaeological park.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (gKWVE)

119 I wouldn't read too much into Trump's guarantee to Qatar. At the same time on Monday Netanyahu apologized to the PM of Qatar on a phone call from the White House. Seems more like a face saving exercise to give the Qataris cover to push Hamas in negotiations.

Not sure anything will work. What's left of Hamas is a bunch of fanatics who don't seem to care they will die if they refuse this deal. Time to get it over with.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2025 04:47 PM (viF8m)

120 I'm just here for the discussion about festive little hats.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:47 PM (xcxpd)

121 105 So Qatar can be (and is) two faced and be telling Hamas, 'Hold off we can get a better deal" AND get US to hide behind if they continue hosting their jihadi friends.
Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:44 PM (g47mK)

And once Hamas is eliminated by force of arms, the Qataris will confiscate all the Hamas money they're holding and have a big party with it.
Not really joking, that's how the Qatari's operate. They don't care who wins or loses, they don't care who gets killed, as long as they turn a profit.
Now letting people get away with attacks in your hometown, that's bad for business.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:47 PM (uWKK8)

122
People don't want to get sick at the sight of the people handling their food. Crazy, I know.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (WopJV)

123 Starbucks caved to a lot of the absurd demands. So how have the employees returned the favor since that strike?

By continuing to complain, by being lazy, by being ugly, by being rude to customers, and by being ingrates.

Now they have no job at Starbucks. Problem solved.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (WopJV)

Their coffee is ass. I don't get how they're still viable as a business.

Posted by: Matters of taste and all but geez at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (TbWk/)

124 Candace Ovens is now pushing a conspiracy that Charlie Kirk was killed by a US government sniper.

Which she is, you watch, going to then tie into the other conspiracy that he was killed because he was going to start speaking out against Israel.

But, she just asking questions, you know?

shortly after the event, i saw some on the intertubes claiming that charlie kirk was killed because he had turned down mossad money.
Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 04:39
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If Erika Kirk goes against Candace, Candace will claim Erika was really born a man.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (NpAcC)

125 I'm just here for the discussion about festive little hats.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

And pumpkin spice.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (77rzZ)

126 Hamas wants to control all of Israel

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (+qU29)

127 Grifting unifies the parties. Just like BLM alleging that Tides Foundation stole from them while BLM disintegrated from fakery and grifting by its own leaders.
Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (WDjG6)

What's fascinating about the left is that any time any of them achieve any sort of real status or fame they IMMEDIATELY cash in fully. It is not like Claude reins in Mr Smith where it is a slow slide into corruption and depravity- they have no morals to toss out. It's strange.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (zZu0s)

128 124 If Erika Kirk goes against Candace, Candace will claim Erika was really born a man.
Posted by: redridinghood at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM (NpAcC)

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"She's a secret JOOO!"
-Candace, 98.63% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

129 The latest I've seen on the lefty forums is that Erika Kirk is a Romanian-Russia spy and she was actually Charlie's handler.

This people are insane.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (sKqQm)

130 Whats are the stock markets doing? Historical crash and burns? Hair on fire?
No??

Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (bgJ0E)

131 118 Gaza should be an archaeological park.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (gKWVE)

It's already Paedo Park...and Camel Park...and Sheep Park... Mo's disciples sure know their stuff...

Posted by: Bear Grylls at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (ynpvh)

132 *Checks Innertoobs*

By golly, Jane Goodall IS dead.

She twarnt bad looking back in the day.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (LxER7)

133 The Palestinians are trained from the cradle to hate and kill Jews. As long as there are Palis in Gaza there will be terrorists in Gaza.

Posted by: Polka will never die at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (Y6cSm)

134 Martin van Creveld is farking stupid.

It is not about strong or weak. It is about combatting evil.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (Vtnix)

135 111 Consider this: if you make them officially a part of Isreal, then under Israeli law they all get to vote in Israeli elections.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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Read my comment #64 above. The only solution is apartheid where they are not citizens and do not vote. (Or some kind of faux federalism where they have no federal powers, which is essentially the same thing.)

Either that, or wave some kind of magic wand and make the entire muzzie population disappear.

The Left has made reasonable solutions verboten. Only unreasonable ones remain.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (e0xrn)

136 Not sure anything will work. What's left of Hamas is a bunch of fanatics who don't seem to care they will die if they refuse this deal. Time to get it over with.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2025 04:47 PM (viF8m)

I agree. I think this deal went way out on a limb in good terms for Hamas just so Trump and Bibi can say "Look, we tried". I expect a major armored assault on Gaza City within 3 - 4 days.

btw, Israeli naval personnel have begun boarding and arresting all the people on the "Freedom Flotilla" that was approaching Gaza.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (uWKK8)

137 Dude, these two are NOT linked. Qatar will still have US guarantee even if Hamas does not accept. See the problem ?

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (g47mK)

Perhaps I should read the post.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (i24o9)

138 73 63 The SEAL who killed Bin Laden and who was also a sniper, Robert J. O'Neil, believes that something VERY hinky went on with Kirk's murder. The way the shirt moved, the shot itself, the movement of the so-called killer. He wonders why they paved over the area, no autopsy. You know, shit like that.
Posted by: Seems Legit
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SEALS are not forensic investigators. Not their area of expertise.
Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:39 PM (WDjG6)

The do shoot people for a living which is experience that should not be hastily disregarded.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (xcxpd)

139 Grifting unifies the parties. Just like BLM alleging that Tides Foundation stole from them while BLM disintegrated from fakery and grifting by its own leaders.

Posted by: whig at October 01, 2025 04:45 PM (WDjG6)
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Grifting is the real deal that societies make apart from the higher-flying (psyche-out) claims to "virtue" and equal footing.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (krQz2)

140 Hamas members committing to peace and disarmament would receive amnesty or safe passage to leave Gaza, ensuring no further role in its governance.

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To go where? I don't see anyone accepting them now. Besides, most of Gazans are Hamas just not officially or publicly. Those will stay and start trouble again as soon as possible.

Posted by: Decaf at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (unUNN)

141 133 The Palestinians are trained from the cradle to hate and kill Jews. As long as there are Palis in Gaza there will be terrorists in Gaza.
Posted by: Polka will never die at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (Y6cSm)

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That is simply and correctly put.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 01, 2025 04:51 PM (PMtkd)

142 117 He's offering terms of surrender, but they aren't agreeing to surrender..

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Just like in the 40s the war will continue until they do...
Posted by: 18-1

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Or until one side does, anyway. Our side, or our side's leadership, keeps failing to follow that logic all the way down. They must ID what will make them surrender, and implement that. Seems obvious that devastating Gaza and West Bank alone won't do it. Assassinating, imprisoning, or executing some of the leaders in Qatar might move the needle...

Posted by: bearski at October 01, 2025 04:51 PM (Bhsk7)

143 "This can be done the easy way or the hard way, but it must be done," Netanyahu said in a statement to the press at the White House.

F them. Hard way it is.

Make it hurt.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2025 04:51 PM (SKg6T)

144 132 *Checks Innertoobs*

By golly, Jane Goodall IS dead.

She twarnt bad looking back in the day.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (LxER7)

Big into monkey unga bunga too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:51 PM (xcxpd)

145 Defend Israel -- NEVER!

Defend Qatar against Israel -- sounds good! Sign us up!

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I still don't see Qatar signing on. They are more Hamas than Hamas.

Posted by: Decaf at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (unUNN)

146 *Checks Innertoobs*

By golly, Jane Goodall IS dead.

She twarnt bad looking back in the day.
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Yeah, but batshit crazy man!

Posted by: The Chimp at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (TN0g+)

147 Arabs think in terms of strong or weak.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (Vtnix)

148 Perhaps I should read the post.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

What madness is this????

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (77rzZ)

149 The latest I've seen on the lefty forums is that Erika Kirk is a Romanian-Russia spy and she was actually Charlie's handler.

This people are insane.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (sKqQm)
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Probably, with nary a concern about Fartswell and Fang-fang?

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (krQz2)

150 Perhaps I should read the post.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

What madness is this????
Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (77rzZ)
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Spreading dangerous ideas!

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (krQz2)

151 I have only this to say about Charlie Kirk's murder. I don't believe his neck stopped a 30-06 bullet. They will bass through a moose's shoulder blades and exit.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (pohLc)

152 "She's a secret JOOO!"
-Candace, 98.63% probability
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 01, 2025 04:49 PM (GBKbO)

Erika accepted 200 Billion dollars from Israel!

--Likely followup from Owens

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (g47mK)

153 Not sure anything will work. What's left of Hamas is a bunch of fanatics who don't seem to care they will die if they refuse this deal. Time to get it over with.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2025 04:47 PM (viF8m)

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This is why Israel should have declared that Gaza was an independent Palestinian state back in 2005 and told them they're on their own. No more electricity delivery and subsidies, no more fresh water delivery and subsidies. No more free food. Enjoy the autonomy of sovereign statehood.

And if you fuck up and attack us (which OF COURSE you will), you'll lose your Gaza privileges and we will kick you the fuck out and turn it into Hymietown-Sur-la-Mer.

Then offer the West Bank the same deal.

Posted by: Jack Package at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (8LP6B)

154
Speaking of wars...let's test your War knowledge.

Without googling like a gay cheater, Who Is...

Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (WopJV)

155 Read my comment #64 above. The only solution is apartheid where they are not citizens and do not vote. (Or some kind of faux federalism where they have no federal powers, which is essentially the same thing.)

Either that, or wave some kind of magic wand and make the entire muzzie population disappear.

The Left has made reasonable solutions verboten. Only unreasonable ones remain.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (e0xrn)

You're right, which is why Israel does NOT want any of those territories to be part of Israel. (now pieces of them which have viable Jewish settlements are different)
So Gaza and the West Bank must be kept as managed, demilitarized zones for the forseeable future, much like Berlin was kept for 40 years or so after WW2. With external troops on hand to constantly police them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (uWKK8)

156 CINCPAC. Dec 7 1941

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (Vtnix)

157 154
Speaking of wars...let's test your War knowledge.

Without googling like a gay cheater, Who Is...

Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (WopJV)

Being a lousy Admiral?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (xcxpd)

158
btw, is the History Channel still a thing?

Is it all ghosts & aliens, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (WopJV)

159 >>> 151 I have only this to say about Charlie Kirk's murder. I don't believe his neck stopped a 30-06 bullet. They will bass through a moose's shoulder blades and exit.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (pohLc)

The report was the bullet hit Kirk's vest and fragmented.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (ULPxl)

160 Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (WopJV)
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Naval Commander at Pearl Harbor prior to and during the attack.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (WvZaB)

161 Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?
Posted by: Soothsayer

Navy commanding officer of Pearl Harbor on 12/7/41.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (77rzZ)

162 Arabs think in terms of strong or weak.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (Vtnix)
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So, rather Nietzschean.

The Pre-Christian world worked that way. And if you got shafted by "playing by the rules", that was a form of "weak" as well.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (krQz2)

163 It has not done what for instance the Americans did in Vietnam... it did not use napalm, it did not kill millions of people.
Posted by: whig

So Israel may be bad, but America is worse???

F.U.C.K him.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (e0xrn)

164
CINCPAC. Dec 7 1941
Posted by: Anna Puma

Very good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (WopJV)

165 Starbucks caved to a lot of the absurd demands. So how have the employees returned the favor since that strike?

By continuing to complain, by being lazy, by being ugly, by being rude to customers, and by being ingrates.

Now they have no job at Starbucks. Problem solved.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:46 PM (WopJV)

Their coffee is ass. I don't get how they're still viable as a business.

Posted by: Matters of taste and all but geez at October 01, 2025 04:48 PM

As a status symbol mostly. People want to be seen going to starbucks and walking around with a starbucks coffee cup. I live in rural NE Texas and we had a starbucks open up a couple of years back. There is a line at the drive through every single morning even though their coffee sucks.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (0N4FZ)

166 Kelly is a little bit of a bullshitter . She should stick to her mean girl observations about the the English royal family. Any time she says "I know for a fact.." it is all nonsense.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (g47mK)

167 The report was the bullet hit Kirk's vest and fragmented.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (ULPxl)

I didn't see that. It makes a lot more sense.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (pohLc)

168 Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?
Posted by: Soothsayer

Jimmy's squeeze?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (LxER7)

169 Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (WopJV)
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Jimmy Kimmel's husband.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (krQz2)

170 151 I have only this to say about Charlie Kirk's murder. I don't believe his neck stopped a 30-06 bullet. They will bass through a moose's shoulder blades and exit.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (pohLc)

Bullets CAN do weird things in the body. I've seen autopsy photos of a guy shot once in the chest. The exit wound was in his calf.

An autopsy would be called for, hopefully it will be released.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (xcxpd)

171 How many times now has Hamas been offered a deal that was expected to be refused, giving Israel the opportunity to say, "We tried," and then it's OK to wipe out Hamas?

Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (i0F8b)

172
Oh really, so all 30-06 rounds are equally powerful at any distance?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (WopJV)

173 169 Husband E. Kimmel and what is he famous for?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (WopJV)
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Jimmy Kimmel's husband.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (krQz2)

snort

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:56 PM (xcxpd)

174 See the problem ?

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:43 PM (g47mK)

Rereading, yes, it is separate and not dependent upon Hamas accepting a deal, at least overtly. I am not going to speculate that Qatar pressuring Hamas to accept a deal was a condition of the U.S. providing a security guarantee. But I wouldn't be surprised.

It could also be easily rescinded should Hamas not receive adequate pressure from its main remaining refuge, Qatar.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:56 PM (i24o9)

175 Aaahh...

Haven't commented much lately because busy. Nice to get a hit of Hoard Mind!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 04:56 PM (LxER7)

176 140 Hamas members committing to peace and disarmament would receive amnesty or safe passage to leave Gaza, ensuring no further role in its governance.

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To go where? I don't see anyone accepting them now.

antarctica is largely unpopulated. lots of room there.

Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 04:57 PM (sGtp+)

177 I've been trying all day to remember why the sombrero thing looked so familiar and was so funny.

I finally remembered.

https://is.gd/wPXX4c

Posted by: Archimedes at October 01, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

178 Any so-called solution, that does not transfer every muslim residing within gaza and the west bank (I refuse to call them palestinian's because there is no such thing) out of those locales and into neighboring muslim countries is not a serious plan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2025 04:57 PM (XV/Pl)

179 Horde.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 04:57 PM (LxER7)

180 antarctica is largely unpopulated. lots of room there.

Watch out for the penguins

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 01, 2025 04:57 PM (Vtnix)

181 170 Bullets CAN do weird things in the body. I've seen autopsy photos of a guy shot once in the chest. The exit wound was in his calf.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (xcxpd)

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Why did Agatha Christie never have Poirot get a mystery like this?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

182 Haven't commented much lately because busy. Nice to get a hit of Hoard Mind!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 04:56 PM (LxER7)
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Happens to me a lot, too. Only recently I was on a 9-day cruise, without the Wifi package (yeck).

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (krQz2)

183 152
...

Erika accepted 200 Billion dollars from Israel!

--Likely followup from Owens

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (g47mK)

How do I get in on the sweet Jewish cash?

Posted by: Bear Grylls at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (ynpvh)

184 Oh really, so all 30-06 rounds are equally powerful at any distance?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (WopJV)

No, but a standard 150 grain bullet would pass through you at 1000 yards.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (pohLc)

185 If the autopsy is released (which is none of anyones's business but the family's) it will not satisfy the conspiracy theories floating around, and will immediately be dismissed as "fake" or "an op".

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (g47mK)

186 off sock...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (ynpvh)

187 136 btw, Israeli naval personnel have begun boarding and arresting all the people on the "Freedom Flotilla" that was approaching Gaza.

so... greta sold them out?

Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (sGtp+)

188 antarctica is largely unpopulated. lots of room there.

Watch out for the penguins
Posted by: Anna Puma

Yeah, they'll just use the Gazans in furtherance of their own nefarious schemes.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (77rzZ)

189 "So everything is relative, but by definition, to return to what I said earlier if you are strong and you are fighting the weak, then anything you do is criminal"
Posted by: whig

Like Trump fighting the Dems, because Dems are all The Victim Class.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (vbXSk)

190 Any so-called solution, that does not transfer every muslim residing within gaza and the west bank (I refuse to call them palestinian's because there is no such thing) out of those locales and into neighboring muslim countries is not a serious plan.
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Very true.

And once we get that established and agreed to, we *really* need to have a discussion about Muslims within the US borders.

Posted by: Crusader at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (TN0g+)

191 The bullet entered one side of Kirks neck and exited the other side, there is no mystery, it was caught on tape.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (XV/Pl)

192 I still don't see Qatar signing on. They are more Hamas than Hamas.
Posted by: Decaf at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (unUNN)

I disagree. Do you remember the character "Benny" from the Mummy movie with Brandon Fraser? That's Qatar. They'll switch sides on a dime if the price is right. They'll even switch sides 2 or 3 times during a single fight. They're the original Arab camel traders, who believe in nothing and no one except their bags of silver and gold.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (uWKK8)

193 Oh really, so all 30-06 rounds are equally powerful at any distance?

Posted by: Soothsayer

Things get interesting once a hard surface gets struck--often bones, but I saw one speculation Kirk was wearing one of those ballistic vests with ceramic inserts, and the bullet deflected up into his neck. Hardly the most outrageous idea.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (OUMaO)

194 I have only this to say about Charlie Kirk's murder. I don't believe his neck stopped a 30-06 bullet. They will bass through a moose's shoulder blades and exit.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 01, 2025 04:52 PM (pohLc)

Bullets CAN do weird things in the body. I've seen autopsy photos of a guy shot once in the chest. The exit wound was in his calf.

An autopsy would be called for, hopefully it will be released.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (xcxpd)

The main forensic speculation I saw was that the bullet clipped the upper edge of his vest and spalled upwards and clipped the carotid.

That would explain the shirt movement and the artery damage without a full cranial separation or rapid expansion.

Releasing the autopsy results would confirm such a theory, of course.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (i24o9)

195
Remember:

1. "Fire Fauci" was "trying to get Fauci killed".

2. "Somebody should kill Trump" is "free speech".

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

196
Candace Owens is the Wendy Williams of Oprahs.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (IifOV)

197 180 antarctica is largely unpopulated. lots of room there.

Watch out for the penguins

burgess meredith is dead, man.

Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (sGtp+)

198 Bullets CAN do weird things in the body. I've seen autopsy photos of a guy shot once in the chest. The exit wound was in his calf.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (xcxpd)

======

Why did Agatha Christie never have Poirot get a mystery like this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

Because of where she lived and when. Guns are icky to Brits. So she favored poison. With some memorable exceptions (she did have most of the deaths in Death on the Nile be due to mouse guns)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (xcxpd)

199 191 The bullet entered one side of Kirks neck and exited the other side, there is no mystery, it was caught on tape.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (XV/Pl)

I thought the bullet hit the top edge of his vest, deflecting up into his neck...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (ynpvh)

200 If the autopsy is released (which is none of anyones's business but the family's)
Posted by: runner

Wouldn't it be evidence in Robinson's trial?

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (77rzZ)

201 187 136 btw, Israeli naval personnel have begun boarding and arresting all the people on the "Freedom Flotilla" that was approaching Gaza.

so... greta sold them out?
Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (sGtp+)

They got too close to the flame, and now the flame can reach out and touch them.
The idiots never did have any place set up to land. There are no functional ports in Gaza.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (uWKK8)

202 Being a lousy Admiral?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (xcxpd)

Was he? Or was he a convenient scapegoat?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (ExV1e)

203 But he's done what he never before did for Israel: He made a guarantee of American military aid should Qatar be attacked. By Israel.
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I can't say I'm a fan of that, since there's little reason to expect good behavior out of Qatar over, really, any time frame.

Posted by: Methos at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (vSvIl)

204 The do shoot people for a living which is experience that should not be hastily disregarded.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (xcxpd)

Sometimes I wonder who he actually shot

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (rbvCR)

205
Young Jane Goodall looked like Emily Blunt. Very pretty in an English way.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (4U88C)

206 Wendy O Williams (Plasmatics) >> Candace Ovens

Posted by: gKWVE at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (gKWVE)

207 The main forensic speculation I saw was that the bullet clipped the upper edge of his vest and spalled upwards and clipped the carotid.

That would explain the shirt movement and the artery damage without a full cranial separation or rapid expansion.

Releasing the autopsy results would confirm such a theory, of course.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:59 PM (i24o9)

It's a reason I'm reserving judgement. Kirk's assassination was a public event, I would hope the autopsy results would be released.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (xcxpd)

208 The Pre-Christian world worked that way. And if you got shafted by "playing by the rules", that was a form of "weak" as well.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (krQz2)

Works that way in the post-Christian world too for the most part. We just pretended really hard that it didn't.

Posted by: It's why competent hard workers don't get promoted at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (TbWk/)

209 198 Bullets CAN do weird things in the body. I've seen autopsy photos of a guy shot once in the chest. The exit wound was in his calf.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:55 PM (xcxpd)

======

Why did Agatha Christie never have Poirot get a mystery like this?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing dreamlike horrors with Mario Bava at October 01, 2025 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

Because of where she lived and when. Guns are icky to Brits. So she favored poison. With some memorable exceptions (she did have most of the deaths in Death on the Nile be due to mouse guns)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (xcxpd)

I think mouse guns were used by Speedy Gonzales and his friends when they were celebrating.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (ynpvh)

210 Sometimes I wonder who he actually shot

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (rbvCR)
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Not the deputy.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

211 201 They got too close to the flame, and now the flame can reach out and touch them.
The idiots never did have any place set up to land. There are no functional ports in Gaza.

biden hardest hit

Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (sGtp+)

212 Wouldn't it be evidence in Robinson's trial?
Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:00 PM (77rzZ)

you have a point

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (g47mK)

213 Was his first name really Husband?

Posted by: dantesed at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (Oy/m2)

214 It could also be easily rescinded should Hamas not receive adequate pressure from its main remaining refuge, Qatar.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 04:56 PM (i24o9)

It is, effectively, a treaty and, therefore, has no legal power until ratified by the Senate. It's PR.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (ExV1e)

215 204 The do shoot people for a living which is experience that should not be hastily disregarded.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 04:50 PM (xcxpd)

Sometimes I wonder who he actually shot
Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (rbvCR)

There is a lot of lying and exaggeration about who actually first shot OBL. I've heard stuff and I have no idea who is telling the truth there. I hear more than one person shot him, just so they could say they did...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:03 PM (xcxpd)

216 The Pre-Christian world worked that way. And if you got shafted by "playing by the rules", that was a form of "weak" as well.
Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 04:54 PM (krQz2)

Works that way in the post-Christian world too for the most part. We just pretended really hard that it didn't.
Posted by: It's why competent hard workers don't get promoted at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (TbWk/)
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Sure that dynamic is still there--it's not going away either. But everybody saw the ceiling of a Christian world. And that's when Man said "I got this."

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:03 PM (krQz2)

217
Releasing the autopsy results would confirm such a theory, of course.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

==================

Do we know why that hasn't happened? Alternatively, why tf does it routinely take 6 weeks to release autopsy results?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 01, 2025 05:03 PM (4U88C)

218 Oh really, so all 30-06 rounds are equally powerful at any distance?

Posted by: Soothsayer

I am speculating a hunting round. Soft points generally don't come out the other side.

Having shot deer with an 8x57, you know.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2025 05:04 PM (rbvCR)

219 211 201 They got too close to the flame, and now the flame can reach out and touch them.
The idiots never did have any place set up to land. There are no functional ports in Gaza.

biden hardest hit

Posted by: anachronda at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (sGtp+)

The muzzies keep screwing around with the USB ports...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 05:04 PM (ynpvh)

220 I think mouse guns were used by Speedy Gonzales and his friends when they were celebrating.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (ynpvh)

Slowpoke Rodriguez packed the Big Iron.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:04 PM (xcxpd)

221 I still shake my head over people saying Starbucks coffee is bad. Have you ever had ACTUAL bad coffee? I don't think you realize how bad coffee can be. There's a whole iceberg of bad coffee.

Posted by: Max Power at October 01, 2025 05:04 PM (q177U)

222 "This can be done the easy way or the hard way, but it must be done," Netanyahu said in a statement to the press at the White House.

Like he's the fucking president of the jewnited states of fuckedover merika.

Posted by: Firth at October 01, 2025 05:04 PM (CWGlO)

223 There is a lot of lying and exaggeration about who actually first shot OBL. I've heard stuff and I have no idea who is telling the truth there. I hear more than one person shot him, just so they could say they did...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:03 PM (xcxpd)

and a lot of discussion about what happened finally to the body. I suspect it either went back to the incredibly rich family, or it was a double.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (rbvCR)

224
The carrot & stick strategy with Gaza has never worked. Never will. It must be the the club with them. That's all they know. That's all they will accept. There is no Art of the Deal ending for Gazans.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (IifOV)

225 Releasing the autopsy results would confirm such a theory, of course.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

==================

Do we know why that hasn't happened? Alternatively, why tf does it routinely take 6 weeks to release autopsy results?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 01, 2025 05:03 PM

Mostly because it is still an active criminal case. At this point we still don't know how many other people were involved if any.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (0N4FZ)

226 Releasing the autopsy results would confirm such a theory, of course.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

==================

Do we know why that hasn't happened? Alternatively, why tf does it routinely take 6 weeks to release autopsy results?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 01, 2025 05:03 PM (4U88C)

Evidence for a trial?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (xcxpd)

227 Was his first name really Husband?
Posted by: dantesed at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (Oy/m2)

Yes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (ExV1e)

228 >>Releasing the autopsy results would confirm such a theory, of course.

Aside from a few people on the internet I haven't seen too many people "just asking questions". The entire thing is on video. There will always be a few people on the internet no matter what proof is given.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (viF8m)

229 Unexpectedly!

Posted by: ShainS -- Leftist Language is a Dehumanizing Permission Structure for Political Violence at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (VzfDg)

230 It must be the the club with them. That's all they know. That's all they will accept.

Posted by: Frank Barone at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (IifOV)

Yep.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 05:06 PM (i24o9)

231 Nick Fuentes is the OG of the right wing Israel hate machine. He’s all over the place now. He’s was on the PDT podcast recently. Tim Dillon has gone full pro-Hamas, which is funny concerning the Saudis fired him. Joe Rogan is t quite on Team Hamas but he has started asking a few questions. Theo Von might as well get an I heart Hamas tattoo on his forehead.

The “right” podcast world has turned bigly anti-Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at October 01, 2025 05:06 PM (wrRTB)

232 227 Was his first name really Husband?
Posted by: dantesed at October 01, 2025 05:02 PM (Oy/m2)

Yes.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (ExV1e)

Weird.

Posted by: No Name Given at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (PiwSw)

233 (CWGlO)

speaking of filth

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (g47mK)

234 @199

>>I thought the bullet hit the top edge of his vest, deflecting up into his neck.

Watch the video closely, it impacts from the backish leftish and exits rightish frontish, the specifics of trajectory, geometry and material effects are irrelevant and there really should be no conspiracy, the assassin set up a shot, put a round down range, contacted the target and the rest is history.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (XV/Pl)

235 burgess meredith is dead, man.
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You have to want to do this for yourself, not because Mickey died, and not for the fans!

Posted by: Adrian at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (TN0g+)

236 His wife's name was Wife.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (63Dwl)

237 "Troika of Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and now Megyn Kelly"

do us all --and yourself - a favor: don't put Kelly in the same league as Carlson and
Owen

Posted by: jb at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (+eG3q)

238 Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (mOYn9)

Who gets the NFL?

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (CNl8/)

239 For the benefit of the back row: Greta is a Mossad agent and Trump's billionaire friends are funding AOC's political campaigns. Try to keep up. Platform 1, now boarding for all stations east.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (9X60i)

240 Aside from a few people on the internet I haven't seen too many people "just asking questions". The entire thing is on video. There will always be a few people on the internet no matter what proof is given.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2025 05:05 PM (viF8m)

I saw a guy, who heard from a guy, who had a séance with some chick, and the ghost of Napoleon said that there was a second, CIA, shooter on the grassy knoll.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (ExV1e)

241 Posted by: Tom Servo

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I am making a much broader point that the Left, in general, creates barriers to reasonable solutions with the goal of boxing us in. Not just in Israel, but here in the USA. There is never any ideological compromise with fanatics.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (e0xrn)

242 Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (mOYn9)

Is it a chimp blimp?

Posted by: Monkey business at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (TbWk/)

243 There's a whole iceberg of bad coffee.
Posted by: Max Power

*grunt*

Posted by: a civet at October 01, 2025 05:09 PM (gKWVE)

244 btw, is the History Channel still a thing?

Is it all ghosts & aliens, now?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 04:53 PM (WopJV)

Pawnshops and making iconic blades from History at home.

Posted by: RickZ at October 01, 2025 05:09 PM (gKDq2)

245 Very unhappy with this.

Six days until two complete years have passed since October 7, 2023, when Hamas and several other Palestinian militant groups attacked on Simchat Torah, a Jewish holiday.

The terrible deaths of babies, their mothers, the elderly, and more...I have no relationship but yet their deaths still haunt me and I want them revenged.

Yes, a lousy Christian in many ways but these feelings in particular are between me and my God.
---

This Yom Kippur, and to all to whom this applies, have a meaningful fast.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 01, 2025 05:09 PM (NFX2v)

246 242 Jane Goodall dead?

Who gets the blimp?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at October 01, 2025 04:30 PM (mOYn9)

Is it a chimp blimp?
Posted by: Monkey business at October 01, 2025 05:08 PM (TbWk/)

I get the blimp!

Posted by: Lancelot Link, Secret Husband Chimp at October 01, 2025 05:09 PM (LxER7)

247 His wife's name was Wife.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (63Dwl)

Sibella. A perfectly common name around these parts.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:10 PM (ExV1e)

248 There is never any ideological compromise with fanatics.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)

Gosh, bob, you really ARE a moron (in a good way)

Posted by: MkY at October 01, 2025 05:10 PM (cPGH3)

249 Candace Owens was never a conservative, her worldview is not that of a conservative. She thinks in terms of "victim and oppressor" , totally marxist left wing crap. She never left the reservation.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:10 PM (g47mK)

250 Also, just flip the directions I was talking about, when I say leftish, I mean video left, which is actually physically right spatialy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2025 05:10 PM (XV/Pl)

251 Posted by: Firth at October 01, 2025 05:04 PM (CWGlO)

Looks like the civet got into the dumpster behind the Chipotle.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 01, 2025 05:11 PM (gKWVE)

252 I mean she never was and is not a conservative.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:11 PM (g47mK)

253 Off, simian sock.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:12 PM (LxER7)

254 His wife's name was Wife.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 01, 2025 05:07 PM (63Dwl)

Sibella. A perfectly common name around these parts.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:10 PM (ExV1e)

Sorry. I R Moron. His mom was Sibella. His wife was Dorothy.

He was a descendent of Herman Husband, hence the name.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:12 PM (ExV1e)

255 Significance of the stunning Qatar thing ain't the airheads like Carlson or the mythological concept of contradictions on their part.

It's the entire approach to Qatar. Saudis and Emiratis and Israelis and others rightfully loathe them and wish them gone tomorrow. The base there can be easily replaced elsewhere. The "major non-NATO ally" crap was yet another idiotic move by the vegetable administration and its sub-lightweight nobodies.

But Trump is quintupling down on this very disposable relationship with a regime very friendly and supportive of terrorist outfits that murder Americans. If they have leverage over the Hamas animals, somehow they haven't used it for 2 years, was that noticed?

Meanwhile both the Witkoff and Trump financial involvement in Qatar is a galactic appearance-of-conflict-of-interest situation - none of which is EVER mentioned by the rabid drooling anti-Drumpf media or camp, even as they spout all their usual baseless slanders. Odd.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2025 05:12 PM (U/Byj)

256 Was his first name really Husband?
Posted by: dantesed

He had a prominent ancestor with that surname.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:12 PM (77rzZ)

257 Regarding Pre-Christian social forces continuing:

It's kind of like the way that the Market works best *in theory*, if not always *in actuality*.

An optimal Market works as Milton Friedman said, when both parties benefit from the transaction. Fraud and shoddy goods and services cut into this, and have to be legislated out, otherwise, the dynamic of mutual benefit is *only* theory.

Does that stop people from producing shoddy products? No. And it doesn't stop fraud from occurring either.

Still the mutual benefit model of the Market is roughly similar to "servant leadership" model of Christianity. Does that mean we regularly get "servant leaders"? No.

Also, the Market model favors *no* actors. Which is why the biggest benefactors from a current market tire of its *restraint* on them. As Galbraith said, "Everybody hates a free market". Which is why trade conspiracies exist, and why the biggest market benefactors often connive to create a monopoly.

But the monopoly works directly against the mutual benefit model of the Market.

So, the Market is not perfect. And in many cases people would prefer to skirt the Market.

That doesn't mean that there aren't benefits of it.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:13 PM (krQz2)

258 I mean she never was and is not a conservative.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:11 PM (g47mK)

A grifter follows the graft.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 05:13 PM (i24o9)

259
If this keeps up, tyler robinson will be acquitted.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 05:13 PM (WopJV)

260 Jane Goodall is dead? You aren't just monkeying around?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 01, 2025 05:13 PM (P9nGm)

261 The thing about the deal offered by Trump is that as DeGaulle said "treaties are like little girls and roses. They last as long as they last." The various Arab royal houses and the Turks are agreeing because it's in their interest at this time to agree. Business is business and the Iranians are beaten up at the moment. Never forget that Islam rules all there and the royals could fall to a new islamisist push. If that happens war with Israel and the west starts anew

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 01, 2025 05:14 PM (A2I8b)

262 I mean she never was and is not a conservative.

Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:11 PM (g47mK)

A grifter follows the graft.
----

Exactly--we just wait him out. Its only three and a half more years!

Posted by: The GOPe at October 01, 2025 05:14 PM (TN0g+)

263
What is it with you people and Jane Goodall?
She was a filthy fucking monkey lover.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (WopJV)

264
You People know I hate fucking monkeys & chimps.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (WopJV)

265 Then don't.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (P9nGm)

266 I thought Goodall got eaten by a gorilla and went ape shit.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

267 >>You People know I hate fucking monkeys & chimps.

And yet, you persist.

Posted by: garrett at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (+2Z9P)

268 Jane Goodall is dead? You aren't just monkeying around?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 01, 2025 05:13 PM (P9nGm)

Are you bananas?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (i24o9)

269 I mean she never was and is not a conservative.
Posted by: runner at October 01, 2025 05:11 PM (g47mK)

One of the problems with "the Right" that most everyone regularly glosses over is that a lot of former Left become the Left's caricature of The Right, call themselves The Right, and the normies don't know the difference.

Posted by: Methos at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (vSvIl)

270 Sibella. A perfectly common name around these parts.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Mmmmm...that was the name of Joan Greenwood's character in Kind Hearts and Coronets...mmmmmmmm...

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (77rzZ)

271 what is wrong with people? Why aren't they bombing Iran till the cows come home?

Posted by: dreamingrobot at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (EyfuW)

272 266 I thought Goodall got eaten by a gorilla and went ape shit.
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

That was Fossey. And I think some poachers shot her.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (LxER7)

273 263
What is it with you people and Jane Goodall?
She was a filthy fucking monkey lover.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (WopJV)

Get your hands off me, you damned dirty ape-lover!

Posted by: George Taylor at October 01, 2025 05:17 PM (ynpvh)

274 what is wrong with people? Why aren't they bombing Iran till the cows come home?
------

We get distracted easily.

Posted by: Crusader at October 01, 2025 05:17 PM (TN0g+)

275 @266

>>I thought Goodall got eaten by a gorilla and went ape shit.

You're thinking of Diane Fosey, she was taken out by poachers, although they may have been cannibal poachers.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2025 05:17 PM (XV/Pl)

276
--OT--
In my ongoing coverage of the Elizabeth Holmes of fintech, we're now in the phase of waiting to find out when and where Charlie Javice reports for her 85-month sentence. With the routine good behavior reduction, she could be out when she's ~39 and realize her dream of motherhood. Might take an assist from science, but it seems like she's stashed a few $mil from her frauds that could make it happen.

Of course she's appealing, but if I were her I'd get into prison asap. The sooner she goes in, the sooner she gets out.

Tangentially, the real Elizabeth Holmes is posting on her long-dormant X account through someone she's supplying with content. Ye gods:

>>One never knows how long the pounding waves last, but here's the thing: I'm stronger than I have ever been in my life.

Over all these days and nights the pain cut so deeply. But today I'm getting to it.
Because there is no force stronger than love, and I know it is calling me, carrying me home.

And:

>>If love is anything, it is truth.
If life is anything, it is struggle.
-Pierce Brown

I struggle and fight for love, for truth.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 01, 2025 05:18 PM (4U88C)

277 272 266 I thought Goodall got eaten by a gorilla and went ape shit.
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

That was Fossey. And I think some poachers shot her.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (LxER7)

She had a machete hack across her face or something, according to Wiki. It wasn't a robbery, as all her valuables, including guns, were still in her hut.

Posted by: jim (in Kaliforia) at October 01, 2025 05:18 PM (ynpvh)

278 Myself, I'm wary of the whole Tucker-Qatar theory.

This is what the refugee left was doing when they were on the left.

Now, they've become refugees of the side of politics that retained sanity, and they seem to want to take over and decide who can be heard and who needs to be platformed, and if you're not in that in-group, then they slap together any theory they want to produce their ends "It worked didn't it?"

I find myself disagreeing with Carlson a lot more these days, but I don't feel the need to make it into a syndrome, and personal defects. I'm happy to leave it at a disagreement.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:18 PM (krQz2)

279 Relatively sure I said on October 8th, 2022, that if the entirety of Gaza wasn't a smoking crater, filled with substantial amounts of palis, by October 14th, that the Israelis were going to be too kind and decent and compassionate to get the job done properly.
I was 100 percent correct. And this was before I understood how they feel about Jewish hostages. A noble stance, to be sure, but not worth it by any stretch.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 01, 2025 05:18 PM (Vvh2V)

280 >>You're thinking of Diane Fosey, she was taken out by poachers, although they may have been cannibal poachers.

The Sous Vide Tribe.

Posted by: garrett at October 01, 2025 05:19 PM (+2Z9P)

281 Unfortunately, Jane Goodall bought into the global warming BS.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (77rzZ)

282 I was 100 percent correct. And this was before I understood how they feel about Jewish hostages. A noble stance, to be sure, but not worth it by any stretch.

At this point I would be genuinely shocked if any single one of them are alive any more. Israel needs to act as if hostages don't exist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (dfIr7)

283 How do you de-radicalize hundreds of thousands of vermin that have been ingrained with death to jews and Christians since birth? The only way I know is to put them down like Old Yeller (not Levin BTW).

Posted by: Beartooth at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (vyKUJ)

284 283 How do you de-radicalize hundreds of thousands of vermin that have been ingrained with death to jews and Christians since birth? The only way I know is to put them down like Old Yeller (not Levin BTW).

Posted by: Beartooth at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (vyKUJ)

Send them to commie countries where they can fight the godless commies?

Posted by: jim (in Kaliforia) at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (ynpvh)

285 We could use some global warmering in the winter time.

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 01, 2025 05:21 PM (P9nGm)

286 >>How do you de-radicalize hundreds of thousands of vermin that have been ingrained with death to jews and Christians since birth?

Take them to the Cobalt Mines.

Posted by: garrett at October 01, 2025 05:21 PM (+2Z9P)

287 I thought Goodall got eaten by a gorilla and went ape shit.
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

That was Fossey. And I think some poachers shot her.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:16 PM (LxER7

How'd she go on to choreograph all those musicals then?

Posted by: Rather impressive at October 01, 2025 05:21 PM (TbWk/)

288 Look, everyone is fed up with Hamas bullshit. Even the Palestinians are fed up with it.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at October 01, 2025 05:21 PM (gDhA9)

289 How do you de-radicalize hundreds of thousands of vermin that have been ingrained with death to jews and Christians since birth? The only way I know is to put them down like Old Yeller (not Levin BTW).

Posted by: Beartooth at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (vyKUJ)
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Nope. But as long as they refuse to put their arms down, you pound them into the sand.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:22 PM (krQz2)

290 Diane Fossey = Gorillas
Jane Goodall = Chimpanzees
Clint Eastwood = Orangutans

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:22 PM (77rzZ)

291 How do you de-radicalize hundreds of thousands of vermin that have been ingrained with death to jews and Christians since birth?

Its probably not possible for most of them. They have been raised in at least four generations of continuous hate. Its like if Nazi Germany never was conquered and just festered in its evil for decades. How many generations of kids raised from birth indoctrinated every single day with that kind of ideology? How do you free them from it?

Maybe you can, I don't know. But surely not by letting them stay together as a group sweltering in their hate and evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 01, 2025 05:22 PM (dfIr7)

292 284 283 How do you de-radicalize hundreds of thousands of vermin that have been ingrained with death to jews and Christians since birth? The only way I know is to put them down like Old Yeller (not Levin BTW). Posted by: Beartooth at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (vyKUJ)

Same way you fixed the Nazis. Or give them other mundane shit to worry about, like having to make money and feed their families.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at October 01, 2025 05:22 PM (gDhA9)

293 Look, everyone is fed up with Hamas bullshit. Even the Palestinians are fed up with it.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at October 01, 2025 05:21 PM (gDhA9)
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Like the Egyptian-front "PLO" before them.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (krQz2)

294 Isn't ham haram?

Posted by: Boss Moss at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (P9nGm)

295 Fossey was gorilla.

Goodall was chimp.

Posted by: dantesed at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (Oy/m2)

296
Was he? Or was he a convenient scapegoat?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:01 PM (ExV1e)

__________

He was the guy in charge. He made mistakes. He paid the price. MacArthur's made worse mistakes. He should have been relieved too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (Re0bx)

297 >> Fossey was gorilla.

Silverbackshots. Yes.

Posted by: garrett at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (+2Z9P)

298 I find myself disagreeing with Carlson a lot more these days, but I don't feel the need to make it into a syndrome, and personal defects. I'm happy to leave it at a disagreement.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:18 PM (krQz2)

Same.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (i24o9)

299 Trump declared he'd defend Qatar from attacks

'Senior Hamas official defends ‘high price’ of Oct 7 for Palestinians, saying attack created ‘golden moment’
By Nadeen Ebrahim, Jeremy Diamond, Andrew Carey
Sep 25, 2025

In part, "In a wide-ranging interview in Doha, two weeks after surviving an Israeli air-strike on a Hamas compound in the Qatari capital, Ghazi Hamad highlighted growing international condemnation of Israel’s offensive in Gaza and the spate of countries who have recognized Palestinian statehood. He was unapologetic about the consequences for Palestinian civilians in Gaza, who have borne the brunt of Israel’s unrelenting attacks on Gaza.

“You know what is the benefit of October 7th now? …If you look to the (United Nations) General Assembly yesterday, when about 194 people opened their eyes and looked to the atrocity, to brutality of Israel and all of them, they condemned Israel. We waited for this moment for 77 years,” he said.
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Beyond angry.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (NFX2v)

300 295 Fossey was gorilla.

Goodall was chimp.
Posted by: dantesed at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (Oy/m2)

But who was phone?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (LxER7)

301 He was the guy in charge. He made mistakes. He paid the price. MacArthur's made worse mistakes. He should have been relieved too.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

There was also the Army commander, Short.

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (77rzZ)

302 The US military basing in Qatar as part of the GWOT and Qatar's sympathies with Islamic terrorists complicates things...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (/lPRQ)

303 Alternatively:

Mannix = Chimp

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:25 PM (77rzZ)

304 @276 Javice was clearly a fraudster but Chase didn't do their proper due diligence on her claims and business model. The prosecution was as much about Chase being suckered and embarrassed by their own incompetence as it was about her fraud.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 01, 2025 05:25 PM (A2I8b)

305 Gotta add my voice to the comments here already who said Megyn is in no way anywhere near Tucker and Candace. If Dennis Prager himself said so in video, that's Gospel.

Posted by: geewhiz at October 01, 2025 05:25 PM (V87Oy)

306 Fossey was gorilla.

Goodall was chimp.
Posted by: dantesed at October 01, 2025 05:23 PM (Oy/m2)

But who was phone?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (LxER7)

Old school callback, there.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Totes Intelleckshul and Stuff at October 01, 2025 05:26 PM (0aYVJ)

307 Isn’t the Palestine Authority a rival for power against Hamas? So of course PA would praise anything that kicks its rival in the nuts.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at October 01, 2025 05:26 PM (ROUiu)

308 Pine Tree = Gibbons

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:26 PM (77rzZ)

309
Tangentially, the real Elizabeth Holmes is posting on her long-dormant X account through someone she's supplying with content.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

==============

And something that amuses me is that the @Theranos X account is still live. Seems like no one deleted it before they turned out the lights for good.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 01, 2025 05:27 PM (4U88C)

310 Nood. Chicago.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 01, 2025 05:27 PM (ExV1e)

311 NOOD

Some sort of blitz.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 01, 2025 05:27 PM (Q4IgG)

312 Nood. Chicago.

Renee Zellweger or CZJ?

Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:28 PM (77rzZ)

313 Have read comments here and other places of the wedge Portland aunti fa started, with the moose limb brotherhood to drive this issue between conservatives.

The issue of blaming Israel. Of not supporting Israel. Of talking bad about Israel. Of saying Charlie Kirk's murder was by Israel. Stuff like that I see popping up often now. Israel is the bad guy.

It's almost Hollywood in popularity contests amongst crazy Tucker and even crazier podcasters who depend on clicks for their pay.

While I may have the origins wrong, it suddenly made sense why I was seeing this here and there and since Kirk's death. Where there is smoke there is fire and all that.

I will continue to pray for Israel and the complete eradication of radical esslam.

To see "conservatives" fall for this ploy is both maddening and sad. To see "conservatives" dream up and pound the drum for conspiracy theories is retarded, sir.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at October 01, 2025 05:28 PM (6PCLE)

314
If the Palestinians were to vanish from the face of the earth tomorrow, everyone - Saudis, Jordanians, Egyptians and Lebanese - would breathe a huge sigh of relief.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2025 05:28 PM (Re0bx)

315 I think Megyn is not driven by anti-Jew stuff, she's just really prickly and responds badly to criticism or pushback. But we will seem. Tucker and Owens both seemed reasonable at one point as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 01, 2025 05:29 PM (dfIr7)

316 Hello, Horde! 😊♥️

I don't care about any of this, 'cuz we are going away for a long weekend, starting tomorrow, and all of this shit will still be here when we get back.

Hell, it was here long before we were born, and it will still be going on long after we are dead. Lots of people on all sides have made and will continue to make a good living off of this conflict.

Not my circus, not my monkeys.

Sorry.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at October 01, 2025 05:29 PM (SRRAx)

317
There was also the Army commander, Short.
Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (77rzZ)

_________

Short forgot that his main job in Hawaii was protecting the Fleet.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2025 05:30 PM (Re0bx)

318
I don't even know if the refugee left is even conscious of their nascent attempt to take our side of politics over.

But I bet they will want to seize non-leftist media to rejoin silencing of the most conservative elements.

I swear that since I came back from vacation I have seen some "Woke-righters" on X imply that Christians thinking they know better about the World is some form of "Gnosis" which makes proto-Christian "right" "Woke Right"!

And the way they're tracing philosophical strains and trees of influence by which they want to purify the strain allowed to speak for the new non-left, makes it an academic endeavor that conservatives haven't so far had to deal with.

The sort of hygienics of political literature IMO is trying to squeeze the empirical layman out of the picture. "Oh that sounds like Hegelianism! One-two-three on that Idea!"

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:32 PM (krQz2)

319 There was also the Army commander, Short.
Posted by: Bulg at October 01, 2025 05:24 PM (77rzZ)
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* nods *

Napoleon.

Posted by: Axeman at October 01, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

320 I would bet there's a "get rid of Hamas" subclause to the agreement with Qatar, maybe just a handshake- but I bet they're sent packing. I think Bibi publicly apologized to them too- pretty sure he got something out of the deal.

Posted by: High-T UltraChad SnizzMaster and QuimBully at October 01, 2025 05:33 PM (hlNLQ)

321 Just got back from work. Did a whole bunch of RIF pinkslips go out today?

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 01, 2025 05:33 PM (O7YUW)

322 Oct 7 2023. That was when it happened. Ongoing for Hamas. Every one of them should be executed.

Makings of a future Bible story. Told by the guy that directed Re animator or HellRaiser.

Posted by: dreamingrobot at October 01, 2025 05:34 PM (EyfuW)

323 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 01, 2025 05:20 PM (dfIr7)

Agree. It's a cultural thing for them, and it has cost them dearly.
I'd have told the families to hold the funerals immediately, because there would be no negotiating and nothing left to bury after the bombing commenced.
I have followed this closely, and learned things I wish I hadn't. My hope for Heaven is that the stories be removed from my memory.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 01, 2025 05:37 PM (Vvh2V)

324 Elizabeth Holmes: One never knows how long the pounding waves last, but here's the thing: I'm stronger than I have ever been in my life.

Il Paolo, he knows how to make the pounding waves last.

Posted by: Paolo at October 01, 2025 05:38 PM (gKWVE)

325 Disappointed In Trump

I stand with Bibi

I say and with Israel

After 9/11, NEVER should America protect an Arab country, especially this piece of shit that armed terrorists to destroy America

Against Israel?

Are you nuts

Posted by: Gonzotx at October 01, 2025 05:43 PM (nGraA)

326 I thought Goodall got eaten by a gorilla and went ape shit.
Posted by: fd at October 01, 2025 05:15 PM (vFG9F)

That was Diane Fossey..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at October 01, 2025 05:48 PM (nbLIj)

327 I'd like to see Israel wipe these shitbirds off the face of the earth and free us of Palestine from the river to the sea.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 01, 2025 05:52 PM (wBaIH)

328 Holy fuck just do this already

They been given countless chances...

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at October 01, 2025 06:08 PM (XLfSN)

329 So, this is the first I have heard of any security guarantee to Qatar, and I'm not happy about it. So before you write a whole fan fiction episode about what Owens, Carlson, and Kelly think about the situation, maybe you should give them the opportunity to express an opinion. This is your blog. Be a journalist. Contact their people for comment, rather than crying out in pain as you whack them?

Posted by: Exiled2Texas at October 01, 2025 06:09 PM (YINx+)

330 As stated many times before, I support Israeli People like no other, but we have to come to grips with the Government of Israel as more spies in Sodom on Potomac than any other country.

On top of that we have a fully corrupt globalist government(for decades): The American 'empire' since the fall of the USSR is now trusted by nobody in the world.

We do not know the full story of any of this. Qatar could fully be paid by US to do any side of the business.

Based on Trumps record he is putting a fork in the ground and waiting for the dark forces to out themselves.

We just do not know. I just watched the 1999 "The Negotiator" with Sammy Jackson last night and it is an example of what is going on 25 years later.

Posted by: Danimal28 at October 01, 2025 06:31 PM (mNOhh)

331 Hamas members committing to peace and disarmament would receive amnesty or safe passage to leave Gaza, ensuring no further role in its governance.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The only reason they're in Gaza is because they've been kicked out of more than a half-dozen other countries already.

Who will have them?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at October 01, 2025 07:40 PM (bufu1)

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