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Huh
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:06 PM (jc0TO) 2
Huh?
Posted by: Auspex at September 22, 2025 05:06 PM (Y8DZL) 3
1st?
Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:06 PM (77rzZ) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (tgvbd) 5
I hate fucking NPR. Posted by: Soothsayer at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (nFXNS) 6
I was starting to wonder.
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (jc0TO) 7
Look, if drinking alcohol during pregnancy is widely accepted to cause massive birth defects, a pain killer also having some negative birth defects on the baby's brain is not at all far fetched.
Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (4pwAx) 8
Republican governments provide information to the people, allowing those people to make informed choices.
Democrat governments provide information to the people upon which that government predicates its mandates. We are not the same. Posted by: Washington Nearsider - Preparing for the reckoning at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (oSeBJ) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (tgvbd) 10
The hive mind is a strange thing, fellow kids. Posted by: Auspex at September 22, 2025 05:08 PM (Y8DZL) 11
Whoa.
The Mommy blogosphere/ parenting social media world will lose their ever-loving minds fighting over this. That sound you hear is thousands of AWFLs and Karens scrambling to their keyboards to reeeee and rage. Posted by: brak at September 22, 2025 05:08 PM (jGJov) 12
Yes. I'm here. We have a quorum.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (tgvbd) What are we supposed to take for that? Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:08 PM (rbvCR) 13
we mustn't undermine the scientific establishment that has been batting 0.174 for the past fifteen years.
Need a few more zeroes after the decimal point. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:08 PM (ULPxl) 14
I still want them to check the supplemental progesterone that fertility docs push on everyone (after they're successful). I think that is also a factor.
Posted by: Black Orchid at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (FHttA) 15
what many say is an effort to undermine the scientific establishment and advance a political agenda.
Because the scientific establishment has NEVER tried to advance a political agenda. /s Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (NIkq3) 16
Whoa.
The Mommy blogosphere/ parenting social media world will lose their ever-loving minds fighting over this. That sound you hear is thousands of AWFLs and Karens scrambling to their keyboards to reeeee and rage. Posted by: brak === And I bet even the most ardent leftist, Trump hater won't touch a Tylenol when they're pregnant (assuming they don't intend to abort the baby) Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (4pwAx) 17
Most "news" outlets have left their live coverage.
Those news readers don't like to waste all the time they spent getting all that makeup on. CSPAN has it. Posted by: Nan G at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (lV9qu) 18
Acetaminophen is in a lot more than Tylenol. Excedrin Migraine, Sinutab, Mobic - all acetaminophen. Not long ago there were no limits on its use. Now we're told too much in one day can destroy your liver. So it is hardly absurd that it could harm a fetus in utero.
Posted by: the lower depths at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (+b4rY) 19
Patrick Webb@RealPatrickWebb
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC. - Yeah? Well, are they going to hire biologists to look at? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (L/fGl) 20
Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey.
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (jc0TO) 21
7 Look, if drinking alcohol during pregnancy is widely accepted to cause massive birth defects, a pain killer also having some negative birth defects on the baby's brain is not at all far fetched.
young moms don't stop their adderall or SSRIs anymore now! what does that do? Posted by: Black Orchid at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (FHttA) 22
The left will turn this into another bleach injection cluster.
Posted by: Kingsman at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (ehY6c) Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (jc0TO) 24
If NPR do report that the study is bullshit, it will be in good company
x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1969978343761289325 Posted by: gKWVE at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (gKWVE) 25
Is it true? Maybe.
Sounds like bs to me, but who knows? But, whatever the case, millions of AWFLs will now take Tylenol daily during pregnancy and forbid Vitamin B in their homes. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (nHKRT) 26
Interesting if true.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: man at September 22, 2025 05:10 PM (tubbA) 28
Here's NPR to immediately dismiss the so-far unreleased study and declare that the link between Tylenol use during pregnancy is not "conclusively" proven yet.
Another Win for the American Revival! NPR has capitulated to some degree and has moved from the usual wave of the hand dismissal of "without evidence" to "not conclusively proven". We are making inroads people! Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 22, 2025 05:11 PM (kHd4y) 29
What are we supposed to take for that? Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:08 PM (rbvCR) ________ Bourbon and bénédictine. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:11 PM (tgvbd) 30
I still want them to check the supplemental progesterone that fertility docs push on everyone (after they're successful). I think that is also a factor.
Posted by: Black Orchid at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (FHttA) I think they are going to do that too. It sounds like they are moving off "prove what we accept as true" to "Disprove this conclusion and figure out what it means" Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:11 PM (rbvCR) 31
Bobby Kennedy's head is getting redder and redder by the minute. It's disconcerting. I hope he doesn't stroke out. Posted by: Soothsayer at September 22, 2025 05:11 PM (nFXNS) 32
19 Patrick Webb@RealPatrickWebb
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC. {{{shudder}}} Posted by: It's me donna at September 22, 2025 05:11 PM (VE6XX) 33
Relax, everybody.
· 17m · on MSN Trump admin draws unproven link between autism and Tylenol ingredient use during pregnancy Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (L/fGl) 34
To just be Devil's advocate. If Tylenol is causing autism, why just recently the spike?
Tylenol has been around since the 1950's. I personally think there is a link just because I see no reason to make something like this up. I just don't think it's the only smoking gun. Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (4pwAx) Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (kHd4y) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (d8Y5g) 37
>>>young moms don't stop their adderall or SSRIs anymore now! what does that do?
don't forget xanax -- ob/gyns hand it out like candy Posted by: brak at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (jGJov) 38
Short Johnson and Johnson. The Kracken is coming.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (C3WRC) 39
Patrick Webb@RealPatrickWebb
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC. Geesh, can't they do a DNA test to prove that she's got two X chromosomes? Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (77rzZ) 40
Look, if drinking alcohol during pregnancy is widely accepted to cause massive birth defects, a pain killer also having some negative birth defects on the baby's brain is not at all far fetched.....
Coincidence that both are processed through the liver? Posted by: the way I see it at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (EYmYM) 41
Praying this breakthrough on vit b is real. Oh what this could do for my kiddo who is working so hard to overcome her learning challenges.
Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (p4NUW) Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:12 PM (rbvCR) 43
rigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC.
That's a stunt mish. A mish double, if you will. Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (jc0TO) 44
Acetaminophen is one of those drugs that would never, ever, ever get approved it it were brought on the market today.
It's nasty shit. Always has been. Plus, it's never done a damned thing for me. As far as I can tell it has zero effect on any kind of pain. Aspirin works. Codeine works. Ibuprofen works (though not as well as aspirin, IMO). Acetaminophen might as well be so many Tic-Tacs. Your mileage may, of course, vary. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (qpyNK) 45
Those anti-science MAGA people! Just this weekend I was told that RFK Jr. was trying to kill millions of babies (in a totally unprovoked and vaguely tangential comment to the conversation topic).
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (NIkq3) 46
How freaked out would you be if i told you that cholesterol lowing drugs actually increased you odds significantly for getting alzheimers???
Posted by: Say hows about we rethink medicine at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (RJpgU) 47
34 To just be Devil's advocate. If Tylenol is causing autism, why just recently the spike?
Tylenol has been around since the 1950's. Did it always have acetaminophen in it? Because that's the claimed culprit, not just anything labeled "Tylenol". Posted by: the lower depths at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (+b4rY) 48
Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey."
And no socks. Or shoes. It's for the children. Posted by: man at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (tubbA) 49
Geesh, can't they do a DNA test to prove that she's got two X chromosomes?
yeah why the photo?!? I assume the photo looked like the end of Sleepaway Camp Posted by: Black Orchid at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (FHttA) 50
Joe announcing this would have been treated like Moses receiving the Ten Commandments.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (tT6L1) Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (d8Y5g) 52
Leupold, maybe a critical mass was reached with the general population re the amount of acetaminophen in the blood of both men and women of, er, precocious age.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (/p+XQ) 53
>>>How freaked out would you be if i told you that cholesterol lowing drugs actually increased you odds significantly for getting alzheimers???
statins -- speaking of drugs doctors hand out like candy Posted by: brak at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (jGJov) 54
42 Dickpic?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (C3WRC) 55
RFK Jr’s people discovered the CDC had suppressed studies linking a particular vaccine to some ailment. I believe this was revealed during the hearings.
Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (3CtyV) 56
>>> 45 Those anti-science MAGA people! Just this weekend I was told that RFK Jr. was trying to kill millions of babies (in a totally unprovoked and vaguely tangential comment to the conversation topic).
Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (NIkq3) As if they care, other than affirming their OrangeManBad belief. "Don't you mean 'clumps of cells'?" Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (ULPxl) 57
44 Acetaminophen is one of those drugs that would never, ever, ever get approved it it were brought on the market today.
It's nasty shit. Always has been And that's what they give you if you're in the hospital Posted by: It's me donna at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (VE6XX) 58
If NPR do report that the study is bullshit, it will be in good company x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1969978343761289325 Posted by: gKWVE How convincing. A random fuckface twitter account, with a fancy graph. btw, the idea that ALL siblings are afflicted with the same birth defects is one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time. Posted by: Soothsayer at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (nFXNS) 59
19 Patrick Webb@RealPatrickWebb
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC. - Yeah? Well, are they going to hire biologists to look at? Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (L/fGl) Why is she even responding to that nonsense? Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (NIkq3) 60
Joe announcing this would have been treated like Moses receiving the Ten Commandments.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM In fairness, Joe cured cancer and beat Medicare. Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO) 61
Huh.
Well ok then. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (xcxpd) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (L/fGl) 63
Ms. Macron's smarter than we might think. She also just took care of her annual Christmas card photo early!
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (/p+XQ) 64
And here is a quick question: so, what if they are wrong?
I mean, pregnant women avoiding Tylenol isn't some sort of huge sacrifice. And it is hard to imagine Vitamin B shots being expensive or detrimental. Really this is pretty no-brainer stuff - if the study suggests it, then do it. Worst that can happen is it has no effect. Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (gDhA9) 65
Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey.
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (jc0TO) You think you're joking, but you're not. I stay far, far away from all parenting and pregnancy magazines/blogs to avoid the latest fads. I haven't needed Tylenol much for my pregnancies, but when I needed it, boy did I need it. Posted by: pookysgirl has some old-fashioned children at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (Wt5PA) 66
It would be nice to return to a time when medical advancements and treatments were actually tested first instead of advertised on cable every 10 minutes.
And... why is every single bodily function some sort of "condition?" Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (Q4IgG) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (tgvbd) 68
I still want them to check the supplemental progesterone that fertility docs push on everyone (after they're successful). I think that is also a factor.
Posted by: Black Orchid Is it really everyone or just women who have trouble keeping a pregnancy, like ones with PCOS? Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (a+4eV) 69
Pregnant AWFLs will just have to subsist on box wine and Vicodin.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (bNf8H) 70
"We're gonna have one of the biggest announcements, really, medically, I think, in the history of our country,"
*********** Umm, how about penicillin? Near total eradication of most of the infectious killers of children such asx measles, mumps, polio, etc.? Widespread public health benefits of modern sanitation, clean waterr, etc. Even if (and it's a great big if), marginal improvements are achieved in autism rates it would pale in terms of its health impacts "in the history of our country". Posted by: muldoon at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (/iMjX) 71
If Candace Owens was counting on a lady to be too modest to show gross photos of her wrinkled old clam to the world, she should have picked one who isn't French. Or a publicly acknowledged, proud child molester. Brigitte Macron is totally shameless. Candy O picked the wrong old whore.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (nHKRT) 72
Afternoon, all! I write to you from exciting Homewood, AL, a suburb of Birmingham. At 6:00 this morning I departed Da Swamp, ate breakfast and lunch at two Waffle Houses (and survived), and got to my hotel about 2:45. It's just as hot here as in Swampland, so I probably will not go outside to smoke a pipe tonight and maybe not even in the morning. But I get free breakfast here at least.
Linda is caring for the furry thugs. No doubt she'll spoil them even worse than I do, and they won't recognize me when I get home. Or they'll conclude that, since I don't feed them often enough, I'm not qualified to be their servant. So how are things in the world? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (5VPj1) 73
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC.
....... It looks like an oyster but it's not. Posted by: wth at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (UjdFS) 74
It's not Orange Man or Kennedy saying, it Harvard.
>>@RapidResponse47 Statement from Andrea Baccarelli, M.D., Ph.D., Dean of the Faculty at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: >>"We found evidence of an association between exposure to acetaminophen during pregnancy and increased incidence of neurodevelopmental disorders in children..." Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (viF8m) 75
>>>Really this is pretty no-brainer stuff - if the study suggests it, then do it. Worst that can happen is it has no effect.
well yeah that's a rational take but Trump so "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!" Posted by: brak at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (jGJov) 76
Thalidomide.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (++iMx) 77
As if a single journalist even read the studies before announcing it was absolutely false.
Someone will have to explain to me what possible motive RFK would have to make up this link. Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (4pwAx) 78
20 Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey.
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (jc0TO) Honestly, that's probably true. That said, I think the link is gonna be too simplistic a look, b/c I think autistic kids will still be formed if moms don't take tylenol and moms that do will still have many normal babies. I'm betting this linkage (at best) is like smoking cigarettes and lung cancer. Some folks can smoke packs/day for years and never get it, some folks can never smoke and get it, but the odds are if you smoke, you will get lung cancer. It's about susceptibility and dose...and for some, autism will still appear in births b/c it's genetically there vs environmentally there (which would make sense, b/c before Tylenol appeared, we still had some autistic folks born, just WAY, way fewer)... Posted by: Nova Local at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (tOcjL) 79
Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey.
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (jc0TO) BEE VOMIT??!! Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (8avO+) 80
Brigette Macron just sent me a picture of her dick!
Posted by: Candace Owens at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (paSBy) 81
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC
There is a meme out already showing a pix of Brigette and a picture of a car tire with the rim chewed up from repeatedly hitting a curb Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (rbvCR) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (tgvbd) 83
And it is hard to imagine Vitamin B shots being expensive or detrimental.
My mother told me that Vitamin B shots used to be standard for docs to give women. I forget why. But then they stopped doing it for some reason. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (a+4eV) 84
Tylenol is an interesting pain killer. It isn't a NSAID so you can take it with aspirin or ibuprofen.
Of course drugs do affect people in different ways, good to have options IMO. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (xcxpd) 85
Me no use Big Pharma meds, not even Tylenol.
Me pretty healthy, all things considered. Although I have been plagued with recurrent colds since I went off my vitamin/mineral/herb supplement regime. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (3CtyV) 86
As I posted in the previous thread, the study is not as strong as is being advertised, for several reasons and I would not take this to the bank. Yeah I don't trust big pharma either, but I also do not trust the anti-pharma people or the psychology community. Given how ridiculously broad "autism" has been redefined to, its pretty meaningless these days.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:18 PM (dfIr7) 87
Many many leftists' minds will immediately jump to "TRUMP'S GONNA HAVE ALL THE TYLENOL BANNED!!! THEY DIDN'T GIVE HIM ENOUGH MONEY!!!!!!"
Sub-50 IQs, the lot of them. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:18 PM (/p+XQ) 88
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC.
Considering Brigitte is a Lefty (thus lying and delusional), probably is distributing dick pics. Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 22, 2025 05:18 PM (a6PrB) 89
It's about susceptibility and dose...and for some, autism will still appear in births b/c it's genetically there vs environmentally there (which would make sense, b/c before Tylenol appeared, we still had some autistic folks born, just WAY, way fewer)...
Posted by: Nova Local at September 22, 2025 05:16 PM (tOcjL) Being 'on the spectrum' is so trendy they will just claim it regardless. "Not autistic at all" is on one end of the spectrum after all. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:18 PM (8avO+) 90
My mother told me that Vitamin B shots used to be standard for docs to give women. I forget why.
But then they stopped doing it for some reason. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (a+4eV) It's cheap and it works ? Posted by: It's me donna at September 22, 2025 05:18 PM (VE6XX) 91
My mother told me that Vitamin B shots used to be standard for docs to give women. I forget why.
My mom took them for a while, they really seemed to help her out. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (dfIr7) 92
I can't believe modern medicine can't do anything for RFK's voice. Larynx transplant maybe?
Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ) Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (a6PrB) 94
Tylenol has been around since the 1950's."
Prescription only at first... IIRC. And at far lower doses. Posted by: man at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (tubbA) 95
BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC.
....... It looks like an oyster but it's not. Posted by: wth at September 22, 2025 *** Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 used to say that if God had not intended for Man to eat it, He wouldn't have made it look so much like a taco. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (5VPj1) 96
> 48 Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey."
And no socks. Or shoes. It's for the children. Posted by: man at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (tubbA) Don't forget "must remain in kitchen for entire gestation period". That's another important guideline that is often ignored (Ow! Stop throwing things, ladies!) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (qpyNK) 97
And there were no neurodivergent people before the 1950's. Right. My parents' mothers time-travelled to the future, took a lot of Tylenol, and went back again to have their babies.
Not dismissing that this could be a potential cause of some cases, and that the drug also could help some specific cases, but this is definitely not an explanation or "cure" (fuck you, neurotypicals). Posted by: Cure This at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (oSV0T) 98
istr a couple places claiming one of the problems during the Spanish Flu was doctors prescribing massive doses of the new (then) wonder drug, aspirin - 5, 10, maybe 20 GRAMS at a time.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (ULPxl) 99
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury! I humbly submit to you a simple question: Isn't it true an elderly woman's vulva can be confused for an elderly man's penis? Of course it is true. Then how can we believe this so-called "evidence" by the Plaintiff? Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (nFXNS) 100
Many many leftists' minds will immediately jump to "TRUMP'S GONNA HAVE ALL THE TYLENOL BANNED!!! THEY DIDN'T GIVE HIM ENOUGH MONEY!!!!!!"
Sub-50 IQs, the lot of them. Posted by: qdpsteve You know how it is with them, if it's not mandatory it must forbidden and if it's not forbidden it must be mandatory. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (a+4eV) 101
Meanwhile Hollywood is dead.
For two weeks straight an anime movie has been #1 at the box office. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (d8Y5g) 102
Side note, Tylenol never seemed to do much for me anyway.
When I heard it could ruin your liver, I basically stopped taking it altogether. That came out in the 90's. Why risk it? There's a lot of other cold remedies and such that have acetaminophen is the issue. Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (4pwAx) 103
ace, is it okay if I drag this in here? Was willowed from the previous thread.
Everyone, so what do you think happens Tuesday night? A. Kimmel barely addresses the controversy and never mentions the name 'Kirk' again. B. Kimmel actually apologizes and admits he was wrong. Maybe a small note of 'this is something I don't think conservatives would ever do.' Outside of that, nothing offensive. Promises to turn the partisan volume down on his show. C. Kimmel goes on the air and all but gives every person in the studio a fully-loaded bolt-action rifle, then points them in the direction of the nearest RNC HQs and churches, telling them to "burn and destroy everything they see that's even just wearing red!!! Let's make a million more MAGA martyrs!!!" Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (/p+XQ) 104
And it is hard to imagine Vitamin B shots being expensive or detrimental.
My mother told me that Vitamin B shots used to be standard for docs to give women. I forget why. But then they stopped doing it for some reason. Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 22, 2025 05:17 PM (a+4eV) lolz. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (8avO+) 105
Anyone care to bet the makers of acetaminophen knew there might be a link a long time ago, but decided not to say anything?
Plus, with all of the hysteria over having any booze during pregnancy, yet, turning a blind eye to acetaminophen during pregnancy seems odd to me. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (tT6L1) 106
What's a gram?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (C3WRC) 107
62 Some X smart ass.
https://is.gd/lLqFf6 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, ----------------------- This whole story is hilarious. The thing is, what jury is going to look at that person - wig, man hands, linebacker shoulders, etc. and think that Candice was out of line in anything she said. Jury verdict: "understandable" Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (R50kI) 108
Tylenol has been around since the 1950's."
* Prescription only at first... IIRC. And at far lower doses. Posted by: man at September 22, 2025 *** I remember my mother bringing home a half-filled bottle from one of the hospitals where she worked. This would have been about 1968. At first the stuff seemed to work on my migraine-like sinus headaches, but then didn't any more. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (5VPj1) 109
Feather, bingo!! :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (/p+XQ) 110
Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 used to say that if God had not intended for Man to eat it, He wouldn't have made it look so much like a taco.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius That Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 was quite the saucy minx. Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:21 PM (77rzZ) 111
As with every peer-reviewed study since the collision with Theia, I am going to assume this one has problems and will most likely be retracted or debunked within a decade unless I see real-world results (lower incidence of autism) in that time.
Between Michael Mann and Dr. Fauci, my trust in "the science" is lower than a Gen Z influencer's testosterone levels. Posted by: tankdemon at September 22, 2025 05:21 PM (PLbOZ) 112
" I can't believe modern medicine can't do anything for RFK's voice. Larynx transplant maybe?
Posted by: Bulg" They should make him sound like Orson Wells. Posted by: fd at September 22, 2025 05:21 PM (vFG9F) 113
Is there a way to donate our Tylenol to the third world?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:21 PM (C3WRC) 114
My big 3 herbs, taken daily, made me something close to bulletproof when it came to flu, cold, that type of ailment: moringa, graviola, and olive leaf.
NAC for the lungs. Started this during the coof. We were talking about ginger the other day. The root is great for immune support, even to keep houseplants fungus free. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (3CtyV) 115
The cure for autism is obvious:
STOP OVER-DIAGNOSING AUTISM. There is no autism epidemic. 95% of the kids 'diagnosed" with autism are just "weird kids" which occurred at the same statistical level as they always have--only now they are "medicalized" and a fake epidemic is created out of thin air. Real autism and a very real and very serious and socially crippling disease, and autistics have all my sympathy. But in the modern world, 95% of those claiming to have autism do notmin fact have autism -- thye jut have parents who want that sweet sweet disabiity classification. Or if it'd a teen self-diagnosing, they want to feel special. Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (pMi6S) 116
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (/p+XQ) _________ D. Come out as gay. E. Announce his conversion to Islam. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (tgvbd) 117
44:Plus, it's never done a damned thing for me. As far as I can tell it has zero effect on any kind of pain.
Yep. For me, it doesn't do it's basic job of pain relief, so I simply don't use it. Aspirin or Ibuprofen works. I know some medical conditions advise to stay away from NSAID'S so I don't know what they use. I guess Tylenol unless there is some other pain reliever out there. Whiskey? Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (sAmhv) 118
Hadrian, I think you won the cookie!
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (/p+XQ) 119
Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 used to say that if God had not intended for Man to eat it, He wouldn't have made it look so much like a taco.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius * That Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 was quite the saucy minx. Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 *** She was. And I miss the girl she once was, every day. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (5VPj1) 120
I will say, Aspirin does seem to work pretty well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (eZwyX) 122
Those needing pain relief should consider Professor Weasel's Miracle Balm. Also available as an ointment. Also cures itching.
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (9flxN) 123
>>> 116
_________ D. Come out as gay. E. Announce his conversion to Islam. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:22 PM (tgvbd) D *and* E. Stunning and brave!!! Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (ULPxl) 124
The left will turn this into another bleach injection cluster.
Posted by: Kingsman I saw The Bleach Injection Cluster open for Tapping The Vein at First Avenue in '03. https://youtu.be/yWhNfr299So Posted by: mikeski at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (nhCoE) 125
Real autism and a very real = Real autism IS a very real
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (pMi6S) 126
>>>Real autism and a very real and very serious and socially crippling disease, and autistics have all my sympathy. But in the modern world, 95% of those claiming to have autism do notmin fact have autism -- thye jut have parents who want that sweet sweet disabiity classification. Or if it'd a teen self-diagnosing, they want to feel special.
But i like to be specific, keep a routine, and keep my room tidy. I'm special!! Posted by: it's a spectrum at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (jGJov) 127
Hadrian, I think you won the cookie!
Posted by: qdpsteve Hadrian's dogs gather round, eyeing the cookie... Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (77rzZ) 128
Helena, yup. Also uncancelable ever!!!
Kimmel comes out as gay and muslim, he's guaranteed his spot until at least 2050. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (/p+XQ) 129
D *and* E. Stunning and brave!!! Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:23 PM (ULPxl) _________ If short lived. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (tgvbd) 130
We're gonna have one of the biggest announcements, really, medically, I think, in the history of our country
Yeah...hyperbole much? The polio vaccine was big. Soil bacteria research that yielded streptomycin was big. Structure of proteins was big. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (n9ltV) 131
As with every peer-reviewed study since the collision with Theia, I am going to assume this one has problems and will most likely be retracted or debunked within a decade unless I see real-world results (lower incidence of autism) in that time.
Between Michael Mann and Dr. Fauci, my trust in "the science" is lower than a Gen Z influencer's testosterone levels. Posted by: tankdemon at September 22, 2025 05:21 PM (PLbOZ) ------------- The science told us the Vaxx was safe during pregnancy. The science also told us Thalidomide was safe during pregnancy, RFK Jr is now saying acetaminophen very likely isn't safe during pregnancy after the science said it was. I see a slight difference. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (tT6L1) 132
Re: Bobby's voice It reminds me of how many millions of people fell for the Stephen Hawking Hoax -- believing he was actually "talking" through a brain-connected voice box. And that was in the 80's. Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (nFXNS) 133
> BREAKING: Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC.
-------- Sounds like Candice O might be, how you say... "Royally fucked." Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (Q4IgG) 134
Tylenol has been around since the 1950's.
Did it always have acetaminophen in it? Because that's the claimed culprit, not just anything labeled "Tylenol". Posted by: the lower depths at September 22, 2025 05:13 PM (+b4rY) Probably should ask, instead, "when was Tylenol suggested as the only pain killer for pregnant women?" There may be some questions about secondary causes, including some element in the food or medicine that may suppress uptake of B-9. Could it be that one type of B supplementation decrease uptake of another? We know that there was a rise in spinibifida in the 70-80's and public health pushed B-9, and really reduced the incidence Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (rbvCR) 135
Between Michael Mann and Dr. Fauci, my trust in "the science" is lower than a Gen Z influencer's testosterone levels.
If you are of a certain age, you've seen scientists flat out contradict themselves over and over in your lifetime on things. Studies show that salt is deadly! No wait, its critical! No wait, it will blow up your heart! No, wait, it is a valuable nutrient!.... Especially with recent revelations about the inability to replicate over 50% of peer-reviewed studies and the scandals with utter crap being peer reviewed I don't trust any of it any more. Just use things in moderation. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (dfIr7) Posted by: man at September 22, 2025 05:24 PM (tubbA) 137
There is no autism epidemic. 95% of the kids 'diagnosed" with autism are just "weird kids" which occurred at the same statistical level as they always have--only now they are "medicalized" and a fake epidemic is created out of thin air.
Real autism and a very real and very serious and socially crippling disease, and autistics have all my sympathy. But in the modern world, 95% of those claiming to have autism do notmin fact have autism -- thye jut have parents who want that sweet sweet disabiity classification. Or if it'd a teen self-diagnosing, they want to feel special. Posted by: zombie === I have sort of similar thoughts. Like CA leads the way with Autism diagnoses...along with transgender kids. It's just the people that are parents in CA. Not genetics or Tylenol. I do think though there is more autism, but we've also moved the target. It also doesn't help we got kids jacked up on all sorts of drugs plus spending their life looking at a screen Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:25 PM (4pwAx) 138
I use Aleve myself. It's Naproxen sodium. No problem despite my heart issues. Pretty effective as well
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 22, 2025 05:25 PM (lmTGO) 139
I'm on a regimen of pain killers and they gave me Tylenol instead of Naproxen in the hospital.
I asked why and the nurse said "Doctor's orders" So I asked the Doc very nicely about why the change. He said that Tylenol was documented to have less side effects and was "better for me" I just looked at him and he just smiled back at me like, "What are ya gonna do?" Posted by: pawn at September 22, 2025 05:25 PM (PmITa) 140
92 I can't believe modern medicine can't do anything for RFK's voice. Larynx transplant maybe?
Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ) What's wrong with RFK's voice? Posted by: Tom Waits at September 22, 2025 05:25 PM (PiwSw) 141
The NYTimes also claims that the science is "mixed" so we should just ignore it. Does this also include the Chyna Coof "vacines"? Posted by: BifBewalski - at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (QVmho) 142
Meanwhile Hollywood is dead.
For two weeks straight an anime movie has been #1 at the box office. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (d8Y5g) The Demonslayer movie? I saw it with Pooky's nephew and his friends (most of whom are girls, but that's no surprise). I think it was good and really need to watch the anime sometime. Warning: Do NOT watch if you get vertigo easily! Posted by: pookysgirl fortunately is not afraid of heights at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (Wt5PA) 143
Thought they defunded NPR? Why are they/why is it still here?
What crap they disseminate. They should be arrested. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (kx9a7) 144
Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey."
Pretty much how my ancestors got through pregnancy in Italy, until mom came here and had me. Except they added a daily demitasse of vino. The babies emerged singing like Dean Martin. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (3CtyV) 145
Is Bobby gonna legalize heroin for pain relief?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (C3WRC) Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (77rzZ) 147
Oh shit! President Trump just said, "Don't let them pump up your little babies [with vaccines]." He suggest "spreading out" the vaccines over a few years. But Fake News will just say Trump said to not vaccinate babies!!! Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (nFXNS) Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (wBaIH) 149
" I can't believe modern medicine can't do anything for RFK's voice. Larynx transplant maybe?
Posted by: Bulg" --------- I vaguely recall Scott Adams saying he had the same thing, and there is an operation to fix it. (scraping the vocal chords or something.) No idea if it applies to RFK, or if he just wants to avoid Drs. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (R50kI) 150
So I asked the Doc very nicely about why the change.
He said that Tylenol was documented to have less side effects and was "better for me" I just looked at him and he just smiled back at me like, "What are ya gonna do?" Posted by: pawn I'm going to have my people bring me shit in. Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (jddXn) 151
Really this is pretty no-brainer stuff - if the study suggests it, then do it. Worst that can happen is it has no effect.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at September 22, 2025 05:15 PM (gDhA9) Disagree. The worst that can happen is that it kills you. - The Covid 'vax.' Posted by: Washington Nearsider - Preparing for the reckoning at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (oSeBJ) 152
Angelina Jolie just admitted she doesn't really understand America
- What's to understand? At Der Wienerschnitzel, you can get a hot dog or a burrito. You know, German American Mexican fusion. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:26 PM (L/fGl) 153
Bitch has a dick, but it's like a Jew dick.
Posted by: Candace Owens at September 22, 2025 05:27 PM (paSBy) 154
Brigette Marcon and Oh No Yoko going nude should quell any riot.
Plus instant petrification. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2025 05:14 PM (d8Y5g) And an instant alien invasion for the crime of polluting the galaxy. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2025 05:27 PM (snZF9) 155
pawn, problem is that it's been an open secret for years now, doctors prescribe what they're paid to.
I personally have some issues that I'm reluctant to see my doctor about, because she's so pill-happy. Always another pill. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:27 PM (/p+XQ) 156
wHy Is tRuMp gIvInG mEdIcAl AdViCe?!?! Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (nFXNS) 157
I use Aleve myself. It's Naproxen sodium. No problem despite my heart issues. Pretty effective as well
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 22, 2025 *** That and ibuprofen for me. Acetaminophen is like beer for me: I only rent it instead of buying it. The stronger painkiller my surgeon gave me in July had me up every two hours the first, and last, night I took it. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (5VPj1) 158
Is it really everyone or just women who have trouble keeping a pregnancy, like ones with PCOS?
at the big clinic here yeah it's optional but by then everyone is so freaked out they do the shots without question I did about half then I was like .. I feel super weird after these and I sort of forgot to do the rest Posted by: Black Orchid at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (FHttA) 159
140 92 I can't believe modern medicine can't do anything for RFK's voice. Larynx transplant maybe?
Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (77rzZ) What's wrong with RFK's voice? Posted by: Tom Waits at September 22, 2025 05:25 PM (PiwSw) Does he have the 50 years of cigarettes and rot gut voice? I usually just read what everyone says instead of watching videos. My dad did have a major voice change when one of his cocal cords was paralyzed after he was in the hospital once/intubation. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (zZu0s) 160
Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC. For some reason, this reminds me of LBJ. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (63Dwl) 161
Meh. I remember that Trump doesn't score well when it comes to medical matters. Not impressed.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (g8Ew8) 162
Zhukov, Kimmel is the latest of your boss the Steel Man's propagandists.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:28 PM (/p+XQ) 163
My mom took them for a while, they really seemed to help her out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22 I shoot myself up with b12 weekly. It supports red blood cells, the nervous system, repairs dna. I am glad my doctor trusts me to do it myself, I would probably not do it if I had to go see him once a week for it, not because I don’t like him, I just wouldn’t make the time. Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (p4NUW) 164
There are lots of Grifters on Disability for the most ridiculous complaints.
Then they complain that they cannot afford housing and food because disability and SNAP do not pay that much as a "REAL JOB". And they are all Obese and Waddle because their knees are over stressed from weighing 400 lbs on a 5 foot frame. The Baby Boomers cannot count on the present generations to take care of us. The opposite is the real-world reality Posted by: Jackson at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (xEwO4) 165
"Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC."
== "That kind of surgery can be done over the weekend!" Ace Ventura Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (4pwAx) 166
I don't argue anymore they love prescribing pills and I just yeah print it out (I'm going to ignore it)
I have migraines and there's a new drug pushed on me every visit it seems lol the annoying thing is now I get auto-texts from some online pharmacy affiliated with Penn Med telling me "my scrip is ready" - which I didn't order Posted by: Black Orchid at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (FHttA) 167
>>> 163 My mom took them for a while, they really seemed to help her out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22 I shoot myself up with b12 weekly. It supports red blood cells, the nervous system, repairs dna. I am glad my doctor trusts me to do it myself, I would probably not do it if I had to go see him once a week for it, not because I don’t like him, I just wouldn’t make the time. Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (p4NUW) Does an injection work that much better that a pill? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (ULPxl) 168
Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 used to say that if God had not intended for Man to eat it, He wouldn't have made it look so much like a taco.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius That Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 was quite the saucy minx. Posted by: Bulg There's biblical precedent. Song of Solomon/Song of Songs 7:2 "Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine." The "goblet full of wine" is probably not her navel, though it is close by..... Posted by: mikeski at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (nhCoE) 169
B 12 is in meat and eggs.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (C3WRC) 170
Pretty interesting that the therapeutic is a form of folic acid.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (bNf8H) 171
1 gram= 1000mgs (milligrams)
Posted by: Kingsman at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (ehY6c) 172
The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it. When a kid can't speak it is not being mis diagnosed. And there are way too many kids who can't speak or function normally. Way too many.
Posted by: From a Far Green Country at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (Y03RW) 173
Here's NPR to immediately dismiss the so-far unreleased study and declare that the link between Tylenol use during pregnancy is not "conclusively" proven yet
---------------- I thought NPR was defunded so how are they still on the air? Posted by: Decaf at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (unUNN) 174
Jeez, A cotton swab in the mouth gives all the evidence of sex needed. Looking at you, Big Mike. Posted by: Auspex at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (Y8DZL) 175
137 There is no autism epidemic. 95% of the kids 'diagnosed" with autism are just "weird kids" which occurred at the same statistical level as they always have--only now they are "medicalized" and a fake epidemic is created out of thin air.
Posted by: zombie -------- Two things. 1. We have given people an incentive to be diagnosed. Better treatment at schools, more money for schools, excuse for failure, etc. (Probably more money in benefits but depends on state and I don't know the data.) 2. We have eliminated the barriers on how people behave - brothers, cousins, etc. even neighbors. It used to be when kids acted weird, they were quickly corrected and told to get in line. Now there is no community to straighten them out. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (R50kI) 176
The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it. When a kid can't speak it is not being mis diagnosed. And there are way too many kids who can't speak or function normally. Way too many.
Posted by: From a Far Green Country === Jerry Seinfeld has said he's autistic. That's the kind of stuff people are referring to. Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (4pwAx) 177
Decaf, NPR still has a lot of stations that, instead of playing commercials, beg for money constantly.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (/p+XQ) 178
152 What's to understand? At Der Wienerschnitzel, you can get a hot dog or a burrito. You know, German American Mexican fusion.
i, for one, am disappointed that bratwurst season has not yet begun at der wienerschnitzel. i mean, oktoberfest is going on; get with the program, guys! Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (v3pYe) 179
166 I don't argue anymore they love prescribing pills and I just yeah print it out (I'm going to ignore it)
I have migraines and there's a new drug pushed on me every visit it seems lol But everyone in the Drug Commercials on TV are so Happy and enjoying life !!!!!! Posted by: Jackson at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (xEwO4) 180
istr a couple places claiming one of the problems during the Spanish Flu was doctors prescribing massive doses of the new (then) wonder drug, aspirin - 5, 10, maybe 20 GRAMS at a time.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:19 PM (ULPxl) Fever was a killer back in the 1800s. Jeff Davis' newlywed bride died of fever and it left him with serious side effects : blindness in one eye and migraines his whole life. WT Sherman lost a son to fever, after the war Gen Hood died, lost his wife and one child leaving 10 orphaned kids. Gen. Lonsgtreet lost 3 or 5 kids to fever in a single week. And all these were well off and famous people who would get the best care. Doctors might be willing to use what you have to keep the fever from killing them in hours Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (8avO+) 181
No one in my family was ever vaccinated for anything until they started emigrating from Italy mid 20c. There were no outbreaks of contagion in their hometown, no mass graves due to epidemics, none if that merda.
Autism was, and still is - unheard of. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (3CtyV) 182
I'm still trying to figure out why Candace Owens has decided to pick this very strange fight with Madame Macron. What's in it for Owens, clicks?
Simplest answer is that Owens is simply a nut bag. Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (lmTGO) 183
Give Tylenol to your horse.
Posted by: Rex B at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (KOp5h) 184
Johnson and Johnson is loving it.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (C3WRC) 185
From what I understand, supplements are better than nothing but they are very limited effectiveness compared to shots or especially getting it in food. But if you cannot get enough of either, pills help.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (dfIr7) 186
anachronda, I myself can't wait for the Pumpkin Spice Bratwurst. Yum!!!
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (/p+XQ) 187
3. Is autism high all around the world? Even places where women take tylenol during pregnancy but don't have the medical/education industrial complex to profit from the diagnosis?
I wonder. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (R50kI) 188
Jeez, A cotton swab in the mouth gives all the evidence of sex needed.
Looking at you, Big Mike. Posted by: Auspex at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (Y8DZL) Nobody wants to get that close to that mouth to do it. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (snZF9) 189
Who here agrees with me that President Trump, et al, will be sued immediately by the makers of Tylenol? Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (nFXNS) Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (v3pYe) 191
Probably lots of stuff pregnant women should stay away from
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2025 05:32 PM (+qU29) 192
>>> 183 Give Tylenol to your horse.
Posted by: Rex B at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (KOp5h) NEIGH! Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (ULPxl) 193
The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it.
Posted by: From a Far Green Country at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (Y03RW) Nobody said it doesn't exist. But just because you may know people with autism doesn't mean that it isn't over-diagnosed. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (n9ltV) 194
84 Tylenol is an interesting pain killer. It isn't a NSAID so you can take it with aspirin or ibuprofen.
Of course drugs do affect people in different ways, good to have options IMO. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, ------------- Is this new info? Brain Stem tells me that taking the two is bad. Also tells me acetaminophen can be hard on your liver especially if you drink. I've been alergic to it ever sense I read that. You have to force Dr.s to give you pain meds without acetaminophen. Big pharma pushed that hard. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (kx9a7) 195
Real autism and a very real and very serious and socially crippling disease, and autistics have all my sympathy. But in the modern world, 95% of those claiming to have autism do notmin fact have autism -- thye jut have parents who want that sweet sweet disabiity classification. Or if it'd a teen self-diagnosing, they want to feel special.
Posted by: zombie Agree 100%. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (g8Ew8) 196
B 12? You sank my battleship.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (C3WRC) 197
I still remember when Sarah Jessica Parker was an up-and-coming star, doing the show Square Pegs.
The school that they shot that show at, Excelsior High School in Norwalk CA, is still there and functioning. It's been an adult learning school since 1981. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (/p+XQ) 198
169 B 12 is in meat and eggs.
Remember when they said don't eat eggs because you will get high cholesterol???? I eat 4 eggs a day and my cholesterol is low and have no heart problems. Eggs are a super food, but do not taste as good as McDonalds or Burger King Junk Food.... Posted by: Jackson at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (xEwO4) 199
I saw Saucy Minx open for Zepparella at Lilith Fair in '97.
Posted by: Musik Lover at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (oftw2) 200
Simplest answer is that Owens is simply a nut bag.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (lmTGO) She really pisses me off! Obviously she is a Jew-hating, conspiracy-mongering lunatic, but I think she is a smoke-show! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (n9ltV) Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (jddXn) 202
But just because you may know people with autism doesn't mean that it isn't over-diagnosed. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (n9ltV) ----------------- I'm going with column A and column B, Over diagnosed but also far more autism in society than there should be. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (tT6L1) 203
Vaccinations are a Godsend and a blessing, this push against them makes me cringe. I agree that we bombard babies with way too much of them and its probably worth a close look at what they are made like and what's in them but... do 1st graders really need Varicella, Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis A shots like is required in Oregon?? Some states require even more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (dfIr7) 204
160 Brigitte Macron provides photo evidence confirming she is a woman, per BBC.
For some reason, this reminds me of LBJ. lbj had an onlyfans? Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (v3pYe) 205
Big vitamin supplement manufactures switched from folate to folic acid in the late '80s. Finding a pregnancy supplement that doesn't have folic acid is challenging.
-\__o__/- Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (asXVI) 206
>>> 193 The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it.
Posted by: From a Far Green Country at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (Y03RW) Nobody said it doesn't exist. But just because you may know people with autism doesn't mean that it isn't over-diagnosed. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:33 PM (n9ltV) It could even be both more common *and* over-diagnosed - isn't the current official rate several times what it used to be? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (ULPxl) 207
187 3. Is autism high all around the world? Even places where women take tylenol during pregnancy but don't have the medical/education industrial complex to profit from the diagnosis?
I wonder. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus ----------- One of them said, there is no Tylenol in Cuba. There is no autism in Cuba. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (kx9a7) 208
Wonder how Kimmel got around the affiliates wanting him removed.
He's not going to quit being an asshole. If anything, he's going to asshole more. Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (RUMEY) 209
Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (p4NUW)
My grandmother used to get those shots after she came here. When she decided, at age 92, that she was ready to go Home, she stopped getting the shots, stopped eating, and went to bed. She just kind of faded away with no drama. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (3CtyV) 210
On my point 2 above.
My mother was a sociopath. I only realized that late in life because she was pre-war generation and was trained to act within socially acceptable bounds. She acted like a normal person, but I am convinced only because she had to live within the rules of society at the time. She drove my father nuts, and after he died she drove me nuts. Complete moral vacuum and she saw nothing wrong with it,.... as long as no one knew. What I am saying is that weird people can be forced to act normal and we stopped doing that. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (R50kI) 211
Brigitte Macron is all wee weed up.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (C3WRC) 212
Question: Did President Trump just open the door, wide, for MASSIVE lawsuits against the makers of Tylenol? Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (nFXNS) 213
The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it.
I know someone who does, and I know several who do not, but were declared to be "on the spectrum" because the range of normal childlike behavior has been narrowed outrageously Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (dfIr7) 214
Does an injection work that much better that a pill?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:29 PM (ULPxl) B-12 needs a factor excreted from the lining of the stomach to be absorbed in the gut. This can be reduced by age, ulcers or auto-immune issues. Without it, it can't be utilized. Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (rbvCR) 215
lbj had an onlyfans?
Posted by: anachronda Yup, but it was called CBS, NBC and ABC. They loved the shit out of that old Stalinist. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (/p+XQ) 216
B-12 is OTC and comes in sublingual form, cherry flavor, hold under tongue for absorption.
Posted by: Kingsman at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (ehY6c) 217
Acetaminophen is bad juju in unremarkable use. Why would it be recommended for pregnant women?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (/lPRQ) 218
people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it. When a kid can't speak it is not being mis diagnosed. And there are way too many kids who can't speak or function normally. Way too many.
== Well, just because you have personal experience with kids who really do have it, a lot even, doesnt mean it isnt overdiagnosed. I have personal experience, have seen many very autistic kids especially when taking my kids to physical and occupational therapy. I dont actually know how many kids carry the diagnosis but otherwise look ok, function in there activities of daiky living and just seem weird. Maybe thats a lot. All i know is that some kids have it really bad. Other kids not as bad. And by that i mean some kids can feed themselves and talk and learn to read. Just weird kids. Dont see them at physical therapy. Posted by: Say hows about we rethink medicine at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (RJpgU) 219
Anybody remember standing in a big line at school in about the 3rd grade and getting shots?
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (oLdT5) 220
She really pisses me off! Obviously she is a Jew-hating, conspiracy-mongering lunatic, but I think she is a smoke-show!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:34 PM (n9ltV) *snort* If her mouth is full, she can't call you a... Kite. Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (zZu0s) Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (3CtyV) 222
Did All the sheister lawyers all over the country just get a massive boner in hopes of suing Tylenol makers? Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (nFXNS) Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (/p+XQ) 224
The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it. When a kid can't speak it is not being mis diagnosed. And there are way too many kids who can't speak or function normally. Way too many.
Posted by: From a Far Green Country === Jerry Seinfeld has said he's autistic. That's the kind of stuff people are referring to. Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (4pwAx) I agree, and think that nothing is gained by having self diagnosed or crank doctor diagnose them for sympathy points doesn't help the real sufferers and their families. There are sane trans people out there too. They aren't being served by using their issue to create a psychotic army of assassins and to give mutilating surgeons a thrill. Thomas Sowell had a son that was a 'late speaking child' who I don't think is autistic. He wrote a book about it. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (8avO+) 225
My grandmother used to get those shots after she came here.
When she decided, at age 92, that she was ready to go Home, she stopped getting the shots, stopped eating, and went to bed. She just kind of faded away with no drama. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (3CtyV) I've often wondered if elderly people just will themselves to die when they're ready. My grandmother basically did that. Posted by: hobbitopoly at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (k9OZB) Posted by: Iasonas at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (gUzGB) 227
For some reason, this reminds me of LBJ.
lbj had an onlyfans? Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (v3pYe) That's hawt. Posted by: Doris Kearns Goodwin at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (PiwSw) 228
>The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it. When a kid can't speak it is not being mis diagnosed. And there are way too many kids who can't speak or function normally. Way too many.
Posted by: From a Far Green Country at September 22, 2025 05:30 PM (Y03RW) Yup. Mine couldn't speak until nearly 5 years old, did the stims, etc. but thanks to a shit ton of therapy can now pretty much "pass". Doesn't mean he doesn't have it. People like talking our of their ass here on this topic. Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (p6EDZ) 229
They want to cut the birth rates and exterminate all the white people.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (C3WRC) 230
do 1st graders really need Varicella, Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis A shots like is required in Oregon?? Some states require even more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (dfIr7) I agree completely that we over-vaccinate! My grandfather was a pediatrician, and he used to have Chicken-pox parties in his office so all of his unexposed patients would catch it. It's a trivial disease in children! Hep B? It's a fucking STD. That is a scam and a travesty. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (n9ltV) 231
I remember being told when I was pregnant tgat tylenol was ok.
I am upset about this, seriously. ☹️ Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (gDlxJ) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (eZwyX) 233
One of them said, there is no Tylenol in Cuba.
There is no autism in Cuba. Posted by: Braenyard Yeah, but Cuba. There are probably a lot of medical conditions that the Cubans refuse to admit to. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (R50kI) 234
B-12 needs a factor excreted from the lining of the stomach to be absorbed in the gut. This can be reduced by age, ulcers or auto-immune issues. Without it, it can't be utilized.
=== Gut bacteria play a role big role in health. This is a major emerging theme. Posted by: Say hows about we rethink medicine at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (RJpgU) 235
>>> 180
== Fever was a killer back in the 1800s. Jeff Davis' newlywed bride died of fever and it left him with serious side effects : blindness in one eye and migraines his whole life. WT Sherman lost a son to fever, after the war Gen Hood died, lost his wife and one child leaving 10 orphaned kids. Gen. Lonsgtreet lost 3 or 5 kids to fever in a single week. And all these were well off and famous people who would get the best care. Doctors might be willing to use what you have to keep the fever from killing them in hours Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (8avO+) I know someone whose little person had a seizure as a result of a fever spiking in a few minutes up to 106, so I can see where that would be a thing to try. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (ULPxl) 236
Lloyd Braun's Mom took Tylenol during pregnancy. How did that turn out?
Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (oftw2) 237
She did the meme.
>>@seungminkim >>WASHINGTON (AP) — Trump uses platform of presidency to promote unproven ties between Tylenol, vaccines and autism without new evidence. Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (viF8m) 238
203 Vaccinations are a Godsend and a blessing, this push against them makes me cringe.
-------------- I don't understand. Doesn't a mother's colostrum and milk cover the baby as long as it's nursing? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (kx9a7) 239
Here's a thought:
If Tylenol turns out to cause autism, then all of Big Pharma should no longer be allowed to lobby in congress and give these fucking politicians money. Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (RUMEY) 240
They want to cut the birth rates and exterminate all the white people.
=== To be fair, we want you all dead. Posted by: WEF leader at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (RJpgU) 241
Anybody remember standing in a big line at school in about the 3rd grade and getting shots?
Posted by: Weasel -------- Shots? Sugar cubes, kid. Polio vaccine. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (XeU6L) 242
So moar cowbell doesn't work?
Posted by: Christopher Walken at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (PiwSw) 243
Having participated in Autism research, believe me, we're all looking for root causes. This ain't one of 'em. And can we get off the 'cure' bandwagon? There are, at best, preventative measures at this time... but once you're wired, you're wired, and you make the best by adaptation and behavioral therapies.
Are we going to start walking back the fact that the Wakefield article linking MMR vaccine and autism was fraudulent? Let's keep the research going and give families sound advice and not false hope. I'm all for dietary improvements and finding the best ways to reducing maternal inflammation (an actual link to altered fetal brain development). When it comes to acetometaphin, there is no "there" there. Posted by: Sidmystic at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (ivEs/) 244
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (kx9a7)
All things natural must be shut down Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (eZwyX) 245
Autism isn't the only "condition" to be over diagnosed. Hypertension is now anyone with a BP over 120/80. The "conditions" keep getting a lower and lower bar so that pretty soon everyone will be "sick" with "something."
But... but... here's a pill/shot/inhaler/cream that'll fix you right up! Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (Q4IgG) 246
@137 is there an increase in actual autism (however defined) a little . Is a lot of it incentivized by government and Big Pharma., absolutely. Is some of it due to different groups of people interbreeding, possibly. Is vaccine and/or medication a cause , possibly.
The problem becomes you have to define the problem first, what is autism? The standard answer "it's a spectrum ". That tells me that the "experts" have no clue. I have a good friend who has an autistic son in his early twenties. He's not just weird you can tell there is something profoundly "off" about him. What caused it , who knows Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (lmTGO) 247
114 We were talking about ginger the other day. The root is great for immune support, even to keep houseplants fungus free.
footloose and fungus free? Posted by: anachronda at September 22, 2025 05:40 PM (v3pYe) 248
Anybody remember standing in a big line at school in about the 3rd grade and getting shots?
Posted by: Weasel In the cafeteria with the same silver pistol looking thing the military used. Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (jddXn) 249
I took a LOT of Tylenol when I was pregnant. Especially with my first.
I think the rise in autism diagnosis is maltifactoral. Medications, both prescribed, otc and in our water supply, preservatives in our food, pollution in our air and soils….. chemicals in everything….. plus parents who never help kids learn about self control. But. I don’t know shit. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (W2Pud) 250
Johnson and Johnson did this to your children.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (C3WRC) 251
Jerry Seinfeld has said he's autistic. That's the kind of stuff people are referring to.
Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:31 PM (4pwAx) Jerry Seinfeld can bathe and prepare food for himself. OK, look: not all injuries are completely crippling to the point of requiring daily assistance to live. Some just make it hard to type or see small text, or make you use a cane when the weather changes. Saying, "minor disabilities are not life changing" is pretty weak defense for someone in chronic pain. WOULDN'T IT BE NICE NOT TO HAVE A LIFE LONG DISABILITY AND PAIN? Better yet, wouldn't it be nice to spare a baby who will live 70 years with a disability from injury? I mean, seriously, we are debating this because we consider it "normal"? Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (rbvCR) 252
It could even be both more common *and* over-diagnosed - isn't the current official rate several times what it used to be?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (ULPxl) So big medicine wants to have us believe. I say, follow the money. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2025 05:42 PM (g8Ew8) 253
239 Here's a thought:
If Tylenol turns out to cause autism, then all of Big Pharma should no longer be allowed to lobby in congress and give these fucking politicians money. Posted by: AlaBAMA Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:42 PM (kx9a7) 254
I personally have some issues that I'm reluctant to see my doctor about, because she's so pill-happy. Always another pill.
Posted by: qdpsteve My doc is the opposite. He reduced my meds a few days ago. It's too early to know of any effect. I'm one of guys who put pills in those daily dispenser such that I have a two weeks supply. When the doc reduced my meds and changed the timing on others, I had to redo the whole thing! Ever since I was born, there's been a curse on my life. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:42 PM (L/fGl) 255
> Anybody remember standing in a big line at school in about the 3rd grade and getting shots?
Posted by: Weasel ---------- Elementary school, circa 1968. Fat girl in front of me cried. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:42 PM (Q4IgG) 256
Yeah, but Cuba. There are probably a lot of medical conditions that the Cubans refuse to admit to.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) Communism is the main one. Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:42 PM (77rzZ) 257
Are there hard numbers on the amish rates of autism?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (C3WRC) 258
THE PSCIENCE IS PSETTLED!!
Posted by: PFizer at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (47/pr) 259
228 >The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it.
05:30 PM (Y03RW) -------------- People like talking our of their ass here on this topic. Posted by: Dworkin Barimen ------------- Both can be true. It can be over diagnosed *and* some kids legitimately have the condition. Why is that not obvious? No one is saying that *no one* has the condition, or that it isn't a newly growing problem. I am just saying that I see a lot of people that claim to be autistic and had no developmental delays and live a mostly normal life and it makes me think they are looking for a way to be special. Parents of kids with real problems should be against that as well. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (R50kI) 260
>>> 219 Anybody remember standing in a big line at school in about the 3rd grade and getting shots?
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (oLdT5) Yes. DPT, MMR, TB, probably smallpox. I'm curious why EXPERTS! are so insistent on having littles as young as a few months old ingested with all sorts of random shit, and all at once (or at least in big batches). Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (ULPxl) 261
My grandfather was a pediatrician, and he used to have Chicken-pox parties in his office so all of his unexposed patients would catch it. It's a trivial disease in children!
Yeah they did that when I was a kid. Its annoying as a kid but not life threatening except in extremely rare cases for little kids. Explain the Amish Very insular community with a very small dna range so they will not tend to get infected by anyone outside and will only have a limited range of genetic defects within that range. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (dfIr7) 262
213 The people who say autism is over diagnosed obviously don't know the people who are struggling with it.
I know someone who does, and I know several who do not, but were declared to be "on the spectrum" because the range of normal childlike behavior has been narrowed outrageously Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:36 PM (dfIr7) At the same time, what constitutes autism has been expanded outrageously. And so as others have noted we get two extremes of everybody and their goldfish has autism put them on meds and therapy, or there's no such thing as autism just bad kids who don't get hit enough. Plus it's "trendy" now. And this makes it shit for kids who actually do have a problem because they can either get lost on the background noise or dismissed altogether. Both these camps suck ass. Posted by: Too much goddamn stupidity flying around at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (TbWk/) 263
All the fake Twitter fake "doctors" are polishing their knobs right now, rubbing their pee-pees raw, because they'll be retweeted again like it's 2020. Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (nFXNS) 264
Lol, just had the thought…
All those Trump-deranged Front Line Heroes are going to mainline Tylenol when they get pregnant. That’ll stick it to the Dorito Man, Kweens!! 😅 Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (3CtyV) 265
How is this Brigette Macron thing even a thing? She has three biological children. How do I know they're her biological kids? Because they look just like her!!
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 22, 2025 05:44 PM (0bjKf) 266
"Oh no -- we might cure autism and reduce the number of new cases, but whatever we do, we mustn't undermine the scientific establishment that has been batting 0.174 for the past fifteen years."
Batting 0.174. That sux! That's below the infamous Mendoza Line! (baseball fans will understand) Posted by: Gref at September 22, 2025 05:44 PM (5rh/l) 267
Elementary school, circa 1968. Fat girl in front of me cried.
Unpossible, I have been told for half my life that nobody was ever fat when we were kids. Despite knowing several in grade school. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:44 PM (dfIr7) 268
They never even got me to bite that fluoride thingy.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:44 PM (C3WRC) 269
> At the same time, what constitutes autism has been expanded outrageously.
----------- Is Kamala Harris autistic? Discuss. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4IgG) 270
Boss Moss, I was gonna post, wouldn't it be something if it turns out the fluoride causes autism.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (/p+XQ) 271
>>My doc is the opposite. He reduced my meds a few days ago. It's too early to know of any effect.
My heart doc has cut the number of pills I take down to 1 and I don't think I need that one much longer. My old back doctor had his partner quit and get out of medicine because he said the medical industry had turned into drug pushers. There are some good ones out there. Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (viF8m) 272
Does an injection work that much better that a pill? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22 Yes, in so far as the results are more consistent. With a pill, it can take longer and if you have an actual deficiency, a multi won’t be enough. You will need to see a doc to prescribe the right amount. You need to take a b12 supplement daily, versus weekly for a shot, and a pill will take longer to build up. It has to go through an extra step of your stomach where a shot is ta da! Right there. B12 is thick, though, if you do it, make sure you chose your booty for the site to inject. 😂 Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (p4NUW) 273
260 I'm curious why EXPERTS! are so insistent on having littles as young as a few months old ingested with all sorts of random shit, and all at once (or at least in big batches).
hmmm.... *scribbles note* my first fecal transplant Posted by: fisher-price toys at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (v3pYe) 274
Look, if drinking alcohol during pregnancy is widely accepted to cause massive birth defects, a pain killer also having some negative birth defects on the baby's brain is not at all far fetched.
Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (4pwAx) Doesn't excessive Tylenol usage cause liver damage in adults? Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (pJWtt) 275
106 What's a gram?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (C3WRC) Your mother's mother. Posted by: tankdemon at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (PLbOZ) 276
Martini Farmer, most autistic kids learn by adulthood when *not* to speak. So I'd have to say, no.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (/p+XQ) 277
Vaccinations are a Godsend and a blessing, this push against them makes me cringe. I agree that we bombard babies with way too much of them and its probably worth a close look at what they are made like and what's in them but... do 1st graders really need Varicella, Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis A shots like is required in Oregon?? Some states require even more.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:35 PM (dfIr7) An issue in general with batch vaccinations is that likely the tests for safety were not done with the other vaccinations together, thus it is a possibility that the presence of multiples has a different effect. In my day the ones I got were measles and polio and pox, not some STD for adults. A friend of mine was called back for a long term check and found that somehow the immunity for one of them was gone. They wanted to try and figure out why, but he passed up travelling 2000 miles to get needled up. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (8avO+) 278
Doesn't excessive Tylenol usage cause liver damage in adults?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (pJWtt) Sure does. Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (RUMEY) 279
I got chickenpox two days after my last day at first grade. Could have missed the last two weeks of school, but no, I had to get it right when summer started.
Of course I was outdoors as soon as the minor fever broke. A friend got it in high school. He got much sicker than I did. Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, +CK+ at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (0aYVJ) Posted by: imp at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (g6TN6) 281
I don't know if she takes Tylenol or not but Greta Thunberg is Naztistic.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (L/fGl) 282
Unpossible, I have been told for half my life that nobody was ever fat when we were kids. Despite knowing several in grade school.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor They weren't fat. They were just big boned. Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (jddXn) 283
Is Kamala Harris autistic?
Discuss. Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (Q4IgG) Stupid, drunk, egotistical, overly-ambitious cocksucking slob with no capacity for introspection. Not necessarily autistic. Posted by: Free diagnosis at September 22, 2025 05:47 PM (TbWk/) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2025 05:47 PM (eZwyX) 285
Oldcat, I always tell people, I'm not anti-vax. I'm only anti-covid vax.
But that's like trying to get lefties to understand the difference between immigration and illegal immigration. They refuse to see any difference whatsoever. Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:47 PM (/p+XQ) 286
What's a gram?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:20 PM (C3WRC) Your mother's mother. Posted by: tankdemon As a linguistics student in college, I once responded to a professor's question of "What is grammar?' with "the woman whio's married to your gramper." Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:47 PM (77rzZ) 287
Piper, why are you not taking it sublingual?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (kurEY) 288
>>> 238 203 Vaccinations are a Godsend and a blessing, this push against them makes me cringe.
-------------- I don't understand. Doesn't a mother's colostrum and milk cover the baby as long as it's nursing? Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:39 PM (kx9a7) Colostrum is only produced by mammals in the first day or less. I had no clue just how important it is to the immune system of all the little ruminants until I started down the ag rabbit hole... do docs push for human mamas to get baby to nure within the first hour or so? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (ULPxl) 289
Batting 0.174. That sux! That's below the infamous Mendoza Line! (baseball fans will understand)
Seattle had a talented and defensively solid catcher in the 90s, cannot recall his name. His batting average was... very low. So low that the local bars would set their beer prices based on his BA so like $1.76 for a beer Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (dfIr7) 290
Hep B? It's a fucking STD. That is a scam and a travesty.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 22, 2025 05:38 PM (n9ltV) Hep B is blood borne pathogen. Hep C is sexually transmitted through body fluids. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (W2Pud) 291
Well, we have the Amish as a control group. It does seem to be possible to have healthy, normal babies.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (kUxzU) 292
Schools tried to attach an Asperger's diagnosis on my older son. Turns out he was just shy, like his old man.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, +CK+ at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (0aYVJ) 293
Oh no -- we might cure autism and reduce the number of new cases, but whatever we do, we mustn't undermine the scientific establishment that has been batting 0.174 for the past fifteen years.
OUT: The .200 Mendoza Line. IN: The .174 Faucistein Line. Posted by: ShainS -- FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT EVERY MOMENT ... For Charlie Kirk ... EVERY MINUTE EVERY DAY at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (FgqzX) 294
In the cafeteria with the same silver pistol looking thing the military used.
Posted by: rickb223 ------- Heh. Reminds me of troops in a line being moved through a hut, with three 'injectors' on each side. Six injections as they moved through. Lot of split skin, and bleeding arms. Wish I still had my shot record, if only for the coveted Bubonic Plague endorsement. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (XeU6L) 295
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (dfIr7)
Lancaster County Amish have regular and frequent contact with the ‘English’, as they call the outside world. They are all about the commerce, and the selling, and the building and the repairing. When the coof came around, they refused to mask up at the local market until some bitch Karens reported them. So they fashioned their own unrestrictive masks that looked like a face G-string. And they didn’t get cut down by covid 19, and they eschew vaccinations of all kinds. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (3CtyV) 296
Jasmine Crockett's mom must have swallowed Tylenol by the handful.
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Because Trump isn't as anti-expert as many of us. He still wants an appeal to authority - just an authority that agrees with him.
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Tylenol might be part of the problem, but we didn't go from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 20 on some one thing that triples the risk.
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Pennsylvania Amish have more money than God.
Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:49 PM (3CtyV) 301
Plethora of scientific news ! Tylenol bad, Brigitte Macron is a woman ! What's next ?!
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I responded at Reddit, where I had just started posting in subs, "And STDs across America are already down 91%!!" Joke was a hit. :-) Posted by: qdpsteve at September 22, 2025 05:49 PM (/p+XQ) 303
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I think I agree. But at least they are trying, and willing to admit that the medical industry might be a problem. Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 22, 2025 05:49 PM (R50kI) 305
I have a sense that kids like Ally Sheedy in the Breakfast Club would routinely be slapped with an autism diagnosis today. I admit that I have no idea whether that's accurate.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at September 22, 2025 05:50 PM (XvL8K) 306
Look, if drinking alcohol during pregnancy is widely accepted to cause massive birth defects, a pain killer also having some negative birth defects on the baby's brain is not at all far fetched.
Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (4pwAx) I think that's a big example of magical thinking in medicine. Everyone knew of 'gin babies' who were damaged by alcoholism of their usually poor mothers. It doesn't follow that taking a glass of wine during pregnancy is an instant brain death. That's not how dosages work. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+) 307
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (W2Pud)
The other stuff definitely doesn’t help for sure. Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2025 05:50 PM (eZwyX) 308
This came about because so many pregnant women miscarried and so many babies that came to term and were covid vaxed did a 180 from happy normal to screaming pain that the obvious could not be denied as vaccine hysteria any longer.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:50 PM (kx9a7) 309
>>>Jasmine Crockett's mom must have swallowed Tylenol by the handful. Posted by: Paco With the amount of real estate between Jazzie's eyeballs, more like she was downing bottles of wine at night with the bun in the oven Posted by: imp at September 22, 2025 05:50 PM (g6TN6) 310
Big cane chair?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (C3WRC) 311
I don't know anyone, not in my family or any friends, who have an autistic child. My kids and grandkids don't know any families with autistic children. I don't think its because all of us were so healthy, but I guess we're all blessed.
Posted by: Megthered at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (kueL3) 312
Doesn't excessive Tylenol usage cause liver damage in adults?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 05:45 PM (pJWtt) Sure does. Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (RUMEY) It will be interesting to listen to the usual suspects scream, "Sure Tylenol can cause liver damage, but it's totally safe for pre-born babies!!!!reeee!!!" Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (pJWtt) Posted by: Seamus Moon at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (Ab/3c) 314
Yeah...hyperbole much?
The polio vaccine was big. Soil bacteria research that yielded streptomycin was big. Structure of proteins was big. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ********** Yep. And how about an honorable mention to The Human Genome project. Unlocking the genetic code had a bit of an impact. Posted by: muldoon at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (/iMjX) 315
Seattle had a talented and defensively solid catcher in the 90s, cannot recall his name. His batting average was... very low. So low that the local bars would set their beer prices based on his BA so like $1.76 for a beer Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (dfIr7) ------------------- Twins had a similar catcher way back when. Tim Laudner. But, and this was the curious thing, while his BA was terrible, his BA when a hit was needed was excellent. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (tT6L1) 316
Yeah its wise to not drink when pregnant but those Gin Babies were because mom was perpetually stewed, not because she had a glass of wine with dinner once in a while
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (dfIr7) 317
I'm not so much concerned about autism rising as the psychopathy rising.
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Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (3CtyV) 319
Unpossible, I have been told for half my life that nobody was ever fat when we were kids. Despite knowing several in grade school.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor I am going through pictures to scan for our son. I have a series of school pictures from when I was in grade school in the 60s that my mother gave me some years back. There isn't a single fat kid in any of those pictures, literally not a single fat kid in 5 years worth of grade school pictures. Now maybe that's an outlier, but there are about 20-25 kids in each picture and not a single one is even "overweight", let alone fat. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (0N4FZ) Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at September 22, 2025 05:52 PM (eZwyX) 321
Pregnant women should subsist on pure rainwater and wild honey.
Posted by: toby928 at September 22, 2025 05:09 PM (jc0TO) Don't forget the locusts. Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2025 05:52 PM (b3nj2) 322
Did All the sheister lawyers all over the country just get a massive boner in hopes of suing Tylenol makers? Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire Johnson and Johnson meet Morgan and Morgan. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2025 05:52 PM (63Dwl) 323
"You know what the difference between hitting .250 and .300 is? It's 25 hits. Twenty-five hits in 500 at-bats is 50 points, okay? There's six months in a season, that's about 25 weeks. That means if you get just one extra flare a week, just one; a gork, a ground ball — you get a ground ball with eyes — you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week, and you're in Yankee Stadium."
/obligatory Bull Durham reference Posted by: ShainS -- FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT EVERY MOMENT ... For Charlie Kirk ... EVERY MINUTE EVERY DAY at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (FgqzX) 324
I am willing to put all $1.50 in my bank account to bet that there is some common weight reduction drug or anti depression pill that damages kids a lot more than Tylenol ever did. Remember, Tylenol is out of patent, nobody is making money off that any more like a newer drug
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (dfIr7) 325
But. I don’t know shit.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (W2Pud) Nope, 'cause Jerry Seinfeld has autism. And you aren't a specialist. And we just listened to a presentation by the premier medical researchers in the US that said just what you said. and the risk of injuries to babies is worth it, whatever it is, to ignore this Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (rbvCR) 326
Pennsylvania Amish have more money than God.
Posted by: kallisto Well, God doesn't need money. So we all have more money than God. Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (77rzZ) 327
Hep B is blood borne pathogen.
Hep C is sexually transmitted through body fluids. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 22, 2025 05:48 PM (W2Pud) ***** I know someone who died from Hepatitis C due to sharing needles. They were addicted to heroin. Posted by: redridinghood at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (NpAcC) 328
I think corn distillation was probably more important than most medical discoveries.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (Q4IgG) 329
PDT just now: "Yeah, next question? No, not you. You're CNN; you're fake news." Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (nFXNS) 330
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I hate fucking NPR. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ then stop fucking them. Posted by: Seamus Moon at September 22, 2025 05:51 PM (Ab/3c) Proper placement word matters. Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (RUMEY) 331
249 I took a LOT of Tylenol when I was pregnant. Especially with my first.
I think the rise in autism diagnosis is maltifactoral. Medications, both prescribed, otc and in our water supply, preservatives in our food, pollution in our air and soils….. chemicals in everything….. plus parents who never help kids learn about self control. But. I don’t know shit. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 22, 2025 05:41 PM (W2Pud) And I never took Tylenol but I have a child with autism. I am 100% convinced it was a vaccine mix, because she hit every milestone until 3.5, and then she regressed. And here we are. Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (p4NUW) 332
301 Plethora of scientific news ! Tylenol bad, Brigitte Macron is a woman ! What's next ?!
*whistles innocentlyI Posted by: 3i/atlas, preparing to launch probes at mars at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (v3pYe) 333
They weren't fat. They were just big boned. Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (jddXn) --------------- We had very few, if any, fat kids when I was in high school High schools 50 years after I was in high school? Not just fat but obese. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 22, 2025 05:54 PM (tT6L1) 334
Is Bobby gonna legalize heroin for pain relief?
Posted by: Boss Moss ...... If you're in pain, you need sleep. If you need sleep and you're in pain, you need Vicodin. From El Salvador to Mexico I got whatever I needed over the counter. Needle fish through the armpit in El Salvador... antibiotics and pain killers. I'd like to see REAL pain killers available in the U.S. without doctors prescribing Gabapentin or some shit. Posted by: wth at September 22, 2025 05:54 PM (v0R5T) 335
I hate fucking NPR.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ then stop fucking them. Posted by: Seamus Moon -------- Contender for the weekly 'Top Ten Posts' Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2025 05:54 PM (XeU6L) 336
Are there hard numbers on the amish rates of autism?
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (C3WRC) Yes. Also ADHD. And diabetes. Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 05:54 PM (rbvCR) 337
Everyone knew of 'gin babies' who were damaged by alcoholism of their usually poor mothers. It doesn't follow that taking a glass of wine during pregnancy is an instant brain death. That's not how dosages work.
Posted by: Oldcat -------------- Just depends on how much prenatal alcohol you want mom to feed the baby. Same with Tylenol, they both go through the liver. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:54 PM (kx9a7) 338
Look, if drinking alcohol during pregnancy is widely accepted to cause massive birth defects, a pain killer also having some negative birth defects on the baby's brain is not at all far fetched.
Posted by: Leupold at September 22, 2025 05:07 PM (4pwAx) I think that's a big example of magical thinking in medicine. Everyone knew of 'gin babies' who were damaged by alcoholism of their usually poor mothers. It doesn't follow that taking a glass of wine during pregnancy is an instant brain death. That's not how dosages work. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+) I don't think that was the point Leupold was making. A woman drinking a glass of wine or two while pregnant should pose little risk to the pre-born baby. Guzzling booze like there's not tomorrow is obviously not going to be good. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 05:54 PM (pJWtt) Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire at September 22, 2025 05:55 PM (nFXNS) 340
Oh, I've been through it.
My 4yo daughter had to go to a neurologist after sn idiopathic seizure. Before we even talked about the seizure, the doctor looked at her for literally less than a minute. "She's autistic." "What? No she isn't. What are you talking about?" "She didn't acknowledge me when I walked in the room." "She's 4, with a series of brain surgeries under her belt. She's afraid of doctors." "You should get her evaluated." "No, let's talk about the seizure." We come back for a followup a year, when she just happened to be in a better mood, and she immediately began playing with the doc. I asked if she thought she was autistic, the doctor clearly had no memory of that exchange, and just said "no, not at all." THAT'S how thorough they are with this life changing diagnosis. Ludicrous. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2025 05:55 PM (nHKRT) 341
Unbelievable.
>>@TPostMillennial · >>1h BREAKING: Sinclair canceled airing tribute to Charlie Kirk after ABC stations got violent threats: report Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2025 05:56 PM (viF8m) 342
>>>If you're in pain, you need sleep. If you need sleep and you're in pain, you need Vicodin. From El Salvador to Mexico I got whatever I needed over the counter. Needle fish through the armpit in El Salvador... antibiotics and pain killers.
I'd like to see REAL pain killers available in the U.S. without doctors prescribing Gabapentin or some shit. Posted by: wth -------------- Vicodin has acetaminophen in it. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:56 PM (kx9a7) 343
At the same time, what constitutes autism has been expanded outrageously. And so as others have noted we get two extremes of everybody and their goldfish has autism put them on meds and therapy, or there's no such thing as autism just bad kids who don't get hit enough. Plus it's "trendy" now. And this makes it shit for kids who actually do have a problem because they can either get lost on the background noise or dismissed altogether. Both these camps suck ass.
Posted by: Too much goddamn stupidity flying around at September 22, 2025 05:43 PM (TbWk/) A kid with autism became a thing for parents to brag about, a couple decades ago. Because our kid is special! He/she has special talents that may blossom into who knows what terrific talents! He attends special classes or schools! One of my male coworkers was always bragging about accomplishments of his (diagnosed) autistic son. Every mom wanted to join the "I have an autistic child, yay!" Club. The latest mom fad is having a transgender kid. Suburban Moms seem to naturally want to rise to the top of the neighborhood Special Mom pyramid. BAMN Eh, I might have done the same if I'd had kids. Autistic, not transgender. Posted by: Gref at September 22, 2025 05:56 PM (5rh/l) 344
Someone mentioned that one of the issues is that, of course, you can't ethically do clinical trials on pregnant women.
Maybe we can make an exception for women in Congress. Oh, wait ... all of the subsequent abortions would ruin the results. Posted by: ShainS -- FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT EVERY MOMENT ... For Charlie Kirk ... EVERY MINUTE EVERY DAY at September 22, 2025 05:57 PM (FgqzX) 345
I have a sense that kids like Ally Sheedy in the Breakfast Club would routinely be slapped with an autism diagnosis today. I admit that I have no idea whether that's accurate.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba I would've gladly volunteered to examine her. -- HS doctor Bulg Posted by: Bulg at September 22, 2025 05:57 PM (77rzZ) 346
And I never took Tylenol but I have a child with autism. I am 100% convinced it was a vaccine mix, because she hit every milestone until 3.5, and then she regressed. And here we are.
Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (p4NUW) Gosh, Piper, my sympathies. 🙏 My brother’s on the spectrum, but he’s got other issues. Genetic testing revealed an anomaly, and he also suffers from TBI. So his autism didn’t show up until young adulthood. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:57 PM (3CtyV) 347
Oh, I've been through it.
My 4yo daughter had to go to a neurologist after sn idiopathic seizure. Before we even talked about the seizure, the doctor looked at her for literally less than a minute. "She's autistic." "What? No she isn't. What are you talking about?" "She didn't acknowledge me when I walked in the room." "She's 4, with a series of brain surgeries under her belt. She's afraid of doctors." "You should get her evaluated." "No, let's talk about the seizure." We come back for a followup a year, when she just happened to be in a better mood, and she immediately began playing with the doc. I asked if she thought she was autistic, the doctor clearly had no memory of that exchange, and just said "no, not at all." THAT'S how thorough they are with this life changing diagnosis. Ludicrous. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2025 05:55 PM (nHKRT) I remember you posting from the hospital when she was born and all of the challenges. I'm so glad that your little girl is doing so much better. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 05:58 PM (pJWtt) Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:59 PM (3CtyV) 349
nood ... un-funny man comes back
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2025 06:00 PM (pJWtt) 350
Did All the sheister lawyers all over the country just get a massive boner in hopes of suing Tylenol makers?
Posted by: Barrister Soothsayer, Esquire Schwing! - Wayne Campbell and Garth Algar, Attorneys with Wayne's World Law Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 22, 2025 06:01 PM (L/fGl) 351
People who have never taken Tylenol die.
Why can't Congress pass a law ending death? Because they are in the pockets of Big Death. Posted by: Cow Demon at September 22, 2025 06:01 PM (bPFPB) 352
And I never took Tylenol but I have a child with autism. I am 100% convinced it was a vaccine mix, because she hit every milestone until 3.5, and then she regressed. And here we are.
Posted by: Piper at September 22, 2025 05:53 PM (p4NUW) Piper, if it helps, there is a correlation between childhood seizures caused by high fevers, combined with diarrhea with onset of autism symptoms. The MMR combo is what is thought to be the trigger. I also think this is such a dangerous live-wire no one is going to touch it without lots of research. There was a study that showed this that ruined the researcher's career. Even Trump danced around mentioning it, and did not discuss SIDS once. Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2025 06:03 PM (rbvCR) 353
There's a couple genetic conditions among the Amish mostly unknown to outsiders. I remember reading an article, but don't remember specifics.
Jews have their own genetic problems, too-Tay Sachs and others. I'm 100% Nordic and never had to fear contracting Sickle Cell. Arabs who cousin marry have 3X the prevalence of schizophrenia as Europeans. Inbreeding is problematic, at times. Posted by: Ashley In The Shower at September 22, 2025 06:03 PM (oftw2) 354
My measurement for autism is this: If they don't have to wear a helmet all day, then they aren't autistic.
So many people get into their heads that if little Johnny doesn't show signs of being a fucking genius, then there's something wrong with him. No one thinks beyond that little Johnnie maybe just as stupid as his parents. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2025 06:06 PM (g8Ew8) 355
Unpossible, I have been told for half my life that nobody was ever fat when we were kids. Despite knowing several in grade school.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor They weren't fat. They were just big boned. Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2025 05:46 PM (jddXn) when i starting going to doctors regularly again I started noticing how they redefined what obese was a time or two. To make more of them. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 06:09 PM (8avO+) 356
Kamla Harris stated she took Tylenol all the time and there is nothing wrong with your brain !!!!
Posted by: Jackson at September 22, 2025 06:09 PM (xEwO4) 357
Women of today are not obese or grossly overweight from eating Twinkies all day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These 400 Lbs Chicks are just as Einstein said in his Theory of Relativity..... THEY ARE JUST GRAVITAIONALY CHALLENGED !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Jackson at September 22, 2025 06:13 PM (xEwO4) 358
>>>If you're in pain, you need sleep. If you need sleep and you're in pain, you need Vicodin. From El Salvador to Mexico I got whatever I needed over the counter. Needle fish through the armpit in El Salvador... antibiotics and pain killers.
I'd like to see REAL pain killers available in the U.S. without doctors prescribing Gabapentin or some shit. Posted by: wth -------------- Vicodin has acetaminophen in it. Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 05:56 PM (kx9a7) Almost all pain killers I get keep me from sleeping more the pain does. I usually do without. After I had arm surgery on broken bones near the wrist I had to reconsider when the pain block ran out. That hurt. Stopped after about a days dose to be able to sleep. Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2025 06:19 PM (8avO+) 359
Both of these announcements are old news and very iffy. Leukovorin helps some autistic kids and does nothing in others. Doesn't hurt to try as it is harmless, but it doesn't help every kid. The acetaminophen link, while possible, has been investigated for many years now and is very tenuous (oversimplified explanation: HUGE numbers of pregnant women use acetaminophen, so of course one gets a history of acetaminophen use in mothers of autistic kids; just as you would for mothers in general).
Fred = actual pediatrician who loves the Horde and treats many autistic children. Posted by: FRED at September 22, 2025 06:24 PM (GYvCd) 360
221 Is autism high all around the world?
No incidence in Lancaster County Amish. Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2025 05:37 PM (3CtyV) Good point if verifiable. Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2025 06:28 PM (LHPAg) Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 22, 2025 06:29 PM (zH8im) 362
If a chick gave me pain pills and a responsible amount of whiskey, I'd be her French lover.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 22, 2025 06:34 PM (tBu82) 363
So, lost in the progtards making a spectacle of themselves with shit like "let's chug tylenol to own the magas", and blue states going after docs for telling pregnant women to avoid it (or, who are we kidding, going after them for saying "pregnant women" i stead of.. what is it now, (carbon based reproducing blobs"?)...
Don't forget the government had this info for a decade or two. It took RFK jr to bust it loose. It's not the only health data scandal cooking, either. These people are literally killing us wholesale with their stupid fucking Ayn Rand-level crooked functionary villain bullshit We gave up who knows how many cures for cancer, extended healthy life, space exploration, and bullet trains because these leftist twats wanted to playact 1917 and worship brave Women of Calories and men cutting off their dicks. Enough is enough. If you aren't livid yet, then why the fuck not? Posted by: heya at September 22, 2025 07:00 PM (uP6Wd) 364
Meanwhile the "rise" in autism is more likely connected to doctors over diagnosing in order to line their pockets, as well as those of the pharma industry. Similarly they broadened the definition to include people who don't like food touching, or who can't watch TV if half the screen is being blocked by a bookcase.
Include in that people self diagnosing in order to try and sound interesting, since "I'm autistic" sounds better than "in an asshole who only cares about myself" Posted by: Rbastid at September 22, 2025 07:06 PM (jhXXl) 365
I am a technical person paid for my excellentt analytical perception. I know more than ten (10) families with headphone-wearing debilitating autism, and I am not a social person. At least 10% of the families I know have one autistic child. The other children are normal with many high achievers in the mix. When I was growing up (a long time ago), I never knew of any family with an autistic child, and I was more social back then. Certainly more than 100 of 100 families with zero autistic children.
And this autism ‘spectrum’ crap is overdiagnosis crap. The huge majority of Debilitating autism has some environmental cause ramped up some time within the past 50 years. Zero doubt. Posted by: Random Lurker at September 22, 2025 07:58 PM (LgG1g) Posted by: zigzag at September 22, 2025 08:33 PM (16g6d) 367
Sorry, but this one is kinda bullshit. After the original study, a follow-on was performed using siblings, where the mother had Tylenol during one pregnancy and not the other. The *slight* effect seen in the original study disappears once you control for the same parents. Which makes sense, since genetics and fetal environment are major contributors to autism.
Meanwhile, HHS is now recommending against the only non opioid pain medicine that pregnant women can take (and good luck getting an ob to prescribe opioids for anything but the most severe issues). Posted by: MurphyzLaw at September 22, 2025 08:49 PM (uuVFE) Processing 0.06, elapsed 0.0656 seconds. |
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Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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