Gun Thread: 3rd September Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the 3rd September edition?! The October 17th & 18th TXMoMe is getting closer! More on that below.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Trigger fundamentals. Are you practicing them?

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U.S. Military Rifles since 1776

Our pal hickok45 takes a look!

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1911 Madness!

Development of the platform

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1911's for every budget

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How Bill Wilson cleans them.

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High-Speed Photography Bullet Impact on Steel

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Highway Patrol
This week's episode - Train Robbery!

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Our Pal Surveyor 1

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Some of you might like this - here's a pic of the moon taken from my backyard. Unfortunately I think the Surveyor 1 landing site is in shadow.

click to embiglify

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Last Man on Earth!

A re-run I am sure, but a good one with Vincent Price, so quit yer bitchin'.

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Fun Size Joe on Light Duty

I noticed the other evening my little buddy had broken a dew claw. He's recovering nicely but has been placed on light duty for a few days.

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FUNdamentals of MoMe'n: TXMoMe X

They MoMe'n down in Texas!

9/21/25 NOTE: No schedule update yet this week. Next week for sure, but you can expect roughly the same shooting program start/stop times from prior years; Friday 8am - 4pm, and Saturday 9am to 1pm. Also I have heard back from almost all RSO's, so thank you for that! If you have replied and not received an acknowledgement from me by now, please drop me a note. Appreciate it!

The time has come to begin the discussion of the upcoming TXMoMe in Corsicana, TX on October 17-18. This is the TENTH annual TXMoMe, or Conservative Burning Man as it's popularly known, and it promises to be a doozy. If you're in either the Northern or Southern Hemisphere of the Planet of the Earth, contact Ben Had for details on attending. The dates and email links for all MoMes are always helpfully included on the blog's main page, left sidebar.

What started years ago as a small get-together and informal plinking session lasting a couple of hours has matured into a full scale jamboree-hootenanny including a program of shooting activities for both handguns and rifles over two days. I have to thank Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen and RancherBob for making this whole thing happen and providing the opportunity for the shooting to comprise such a significant portion of the event.

But wait! There's more! Combine that with world class food and drink, and the even world classier company of your fellow Morons, and you have a weekend that legends are made of. For those not inclined to shoot (?), there are non-stop opportunities to relax in the shade of the carport or under a handy nearby tree with a beverage and visit with your online pals to your hearts content, which is really what the whole damn thing is about in the first place..

Allow me to be serious for a minute. I have said this probably two hundred and fifty-seven times now. These gatherings are a really good time, and I know of no one who expresses regret after having attended one. Actually it goes beyond that. It's not just a weekend of laughs, it's an opportunity to connect with lots of like-minded people and create lasting friendships and priceless memories. No kidding. Think that's hyperbole? It snot. Would your ol' pal Weasel lie to you? Well, yes he would, but not about this. TXMoMe veterans will attest to the funness and completely laid-back nature of the event. Don't be a dork, do yourself a favor and get yo' ass to Texas!

Specifics of the Friday/Saturday schedule of activities will be posted here in the coming weeks, so stay tuned.

TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun! What was your first MoMe like? What were you expecting? Were you surprised? Did you have a great time?

Call for Volunteers
Help! As I mentioned above, the shooting program in Texas continues to grow, and we wouldn't be able to do it without a lot of help. If you're interested in lending a hand in some capacity, please drop me a note at gunthread at protonmail dot com indicating your date and time of arrival and we'll be in touch. Thank You!

If you are attending the TXMoMe this year, and all the cool kids are, please keep an eye on this section for important information and updates in the coming weeks! I also want to reiterate the TXMoMe is not a gun thing with some socializing attached, but rather is a social thing with some shooting attached. If you aren't a shooter, I guarantee you will not feel out of place and will have a great time. No fooling!

Are all y'all getting excited? Weasel are!!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 First

Posted by: Coelacanth at September 21, 2025 07:00 PM (FdjOh)

2 st

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at September 21, 2025 07:00 PM (kOluj)

3 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:01 PM (jddXn)

4 Also SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:01 PM (xcxpd)

5 And guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:01 PM (xcxpd)

6 well shoot.... congrats, Coelacanth

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at September 21, 2025 07:01 PM (kOluj)

7 I did a thing Friday.

Ordered an AR-10 from PSA, ammo from Ammo Man & some Mags from Mag-Pul.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:02 PM (jddXn)

8 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:02 PM (jddXn)

9 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2025 07:03 PM (+qU29)

10 Hi Everyone.

Posted by: Lurking in Garland at September 21, 2025 07:04 PM (rJt05)

11 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:04 PM (BCwQW)

12 Things have been peaceful at church, but I'm still putting in my reps with my church gun, getting my trigger finger callus back. (There is probably something wrong with how I'm pressing the trigger if I'm getting a blister/callus, isn't there?)

Did some draw + fire drills. Not perfect, but pretty good. head sized targets at 10 yards, all hits...except that sometime if I'm not patient enough, I throw flyers. Frustrating. I can only pray I don't do that if it is game time.

The PSA Micro Dagger is a good tool. It is time to buy a second one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:04 PM (xcxpd)

13 *channels inner Zod*

Noobs....you will come to TXMoMeX. You will do this ~~now~~ in October.

Seriously, you will have an amazing time, with some of the best people you'll ever spend time with.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

14 I approve of the "TX MoMe being fun for one and all" message.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:06 PM (tT6L1)

15 The Texas meetup is great fun, especially with everyone in grass skirts.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 21, 2025 07:07 PM (0U5gm)

16 Good evening, Weasel! Hope retirement is treating you well!

Thanks again for the gun thread!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:08 PM (tT6L1)

17 Some fine 1911 goodness, and a FSJ update!

This is gonna be great!!

Thank you, Weasel!!!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)

18 I'm here. No range time this week.

But I did just pack my pistoles for a work trip.

Weasel, did you get the large email with attachments I sent?

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 07:09 PM (QNMzx)

19 Donald Trump, you magnificent bastard.

That was an awesome speech.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2025 07:11 PM (zjfO2)

20 Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:04 PM (BCwQW)
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Hey - saw your emails. I need to send you one tomorrow regarding the MoMe and gun cleaning presentation.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:11 PM (zMLZ6)

21 7 I did a thing Friday.

Ordered an AR-10 from PSA, ammo from Ammo Man & some Mags from Mag-Pul.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:02 PM (jddXn)

I predict you will have a great time with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:12 PM (xcxpd)

22 Welp, made a 1,000 yard match and finally started moving my score the right direction. My wind calls were okay and I managed to shoot an 87. Certainly not championship scores, but, with my dreadful showings the last couple of outings, I'm happy to trend in a different direction.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:12 PM (tT6L1)

23 If I was going to have a "collection" of rifles, that one of Hicox45's is one I would want.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 07:13 PM (QNMzx)

24 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM (uvSRU)

25 Moon! if this is the space thread, there's a hilarious thread by Casey Handmer over here
x.com/CJHandmer/status/1969634998144888999#
I'll spoil the ending
And since this is Boeing: I'm in excellent health, have never been nor am I suicidal, have a happy marriage and 3, soon to be 4, children, and I'm not open to any kind of paid shill deals.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 07:15 PM (gKWVE)

26 Weasel, did you get the large email with attachments I sent?
Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 07:09 PM (QNMzx)
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Yes I did. It's going to require some work to post so I'm saving it for when I have time to work on it.
Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:15 PM (zMLZ6)

27 BurtTC: yeah, personally I thought it was one of DJT's better ones

Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (gKWVE)

28 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM

Damn...if we are I have to get a Hawaiian shirt.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (Wnv9h)

29 I'm exhausted after that memorial.

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (bOJ2I)

30 7 I did a thing Friday.

Ordered an AR-10 from PSA, ammo from Ammo Man & some Mags from Mag-Pul.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:02 PM (jddXn)

Well done, Rick. I have the 20” ss barrel. Great gun.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM (Jtz/H)

31 Just popping in to give love to poor little Fun Size Joe!

I am a mascara dripping, sniffling mess, so I am going to go get myself together, and see y’all in the ONT.

Ps. Can’t wait to get to the MoMe and have more to say on the gun thread afterwards.

Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM (OoFl2)

32 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM (uvSRU)
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I just organize the shooting stuff. I haven't heard anything in particular, but I don't think the TXMoMe dress code precludes it.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM (zMLZ6)

33 28 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM

Damn...if we are I have to get a Hawaiian shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (Wnv9h)

Check Walmart. Seriously.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM (xcxpd)

34 The Colt M1911 is an example of where slow and sure wins the race. John Browning and Colt, by taking ten years to develop the concepts in the prototypes, examine other offerings, and work out the bugs (and there were quite a few), ended up producing a design that would go on to serve as the US military's sidearm for 75 years. The last M45A1s (the only variant not seen in the video) did not leave USMC service until 2023, capping the 1911's run as a US standard issue sidearm at 112 years.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:18 PM (BCwQW)

35 Hey - saw your emails. I need to send you one tomorrow regarding the MoMe and gun cleaning presentation.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:11 PM (zMLZ6)

I'll be looking for it.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:18 PM (BCwQW)

36 Great Moon photo!

"Last Man on Earth" is the only adaptation of "The Omega Man" where Richard Matheson wrote the script. However, someone else re-wrote it so he used a pseudonym.

It's pretty faithful to the book, if a bit on the low budget side.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 21, 2025 07:19 PM (CHHv1)

37 Posted by: Piper at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM (
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FSJ says thanks and sends a nose boop.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:19 PM (zMLZ6)

38 BurtTC: yeah, personally I thought it was one of DJT's better ones
Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (gKWVE)

He is one of a kind. People tend to question his faith, and his commitment to peace. I don't always agree with how he goes about doing what he does, but I always give him the benefit of the doubt, that he really is trying to make America great again.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 21, 2025 07:20 PM (Q1Ume)

39 I want to thank all of you that will be attending your first TXMOME.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:20 PM (kurEY)

40 Damn...if we are I have to get a Hawaiian shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thursday evening would be a good time for that, unless Ben Had disagrees. I'll have a few words to say.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:22 PM (zMLZ6)

41 I predict you will have a great time with it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I have one of their 15's.
Never had an issue with it.

I'm hoping it'll work for what I'm wanting.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:23 PM (jddXn)

42 I suspect DJT is a Jeffersonian deist rather than a traditional Christian.
Which is fine. He's in company with most the Founders, there.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 07:23 PM (gKWVE)

43 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at September 21, 2025 07:24 PM (sAmhv)

44 TXMoMe veterans: please jump into the comments to encourage the scairdy-cats to join in the fun!

Be there or be square.
Pants are required, but you’ll still have fun.
Ever feel like you’re alone in the world? Attend, and you’ll realize that you definitely aren’t.
Just don’t go near the horse trailer or Ben Had’s kitchen table.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:24 PM (eD91D)

45 41 I predict you will have a great time with it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I have one of their 15's.
Never had an issue with it.

I'm hoping it'll work for what I'm wanting.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:23 PM (jddXn)

I own several PSA AR 15's. Unless you're putting over 10k rounds through them, they are very solid rifles. Work well. Some durability issues over the long term but few people will encounter them and they have a good warranty if they do.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (xcxpd)

46 I mean, Nayib Bukele is also a deist. He's got Muslims in his family but doesn't seem to let that influence how he treats Salvadoreans, and there's no Hamas in the country.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (gKWVE)

47 33 28 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM

Damn...if we are I have to get a Hawaiian shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (Wnv9h)

Check Walmart. Seriously.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM

I love this idea.

Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (bOJ2I)

48 If you have a Hawaiian shirt please go ahead and wear it. There is something planned to honor Jim.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (kurEY)

49 Thursday evening would be a good time for that, unless Ben Had disagrees. I'll have a few words to say.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:22 PM

Shirt will be acquired.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (Wnv9h)

50 Just don’t go near the horse trailer or Ben Had’s kitchen table.
Posted by: RI Red

Always a good policy not to frighten the horses, my dear.

Posted by: Mrs Patrick Campbell at September 21, 2025 07:27 PM (gKWVE)

51 If you have a Hawaiian shirt please go ahead and wear it. There is something planned to honor Jim.
Posted by: Ben Had

Oh, I'll borrow one from the biggest little hobbit. He's got a million of them.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:27 PM (ftFVW)

52 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (RoO7G)

53 I’ll wear a Hawaiian shirt, but I just don’t know what gun to wear with it!

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (eD91D)

54 "Last Man on Earth" is the only adaptation of "The Omega Man" where Richard Matheson wrote the script. However, someone else re-wrote it so he used a pseudonym.

It's pretty faithful to the book, if a bit on the low budget side.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 21, 2025 07:19 PM (CHHv1)

IIRC, it was filmed in Italy.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (Ai3df)

55 I love you guys but I'm not finding a grass skirt!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (kurEY)

56 I love you guys but I'm not finding a grass skirt!
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (kurEY)
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Wearing a grass skirt risks George getting overly friendly, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:30 PM (tT6L1)

57 I own several PSA AR 15's. Unless you're putting over 10k rounds through them, they are very solid rifles. Work well. Some durability issues over the long term but few people will encounter them and they have a good warranty if they do.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (xcxpd)

And 10K of ammo at 50 cents a round is $5000. This is a good problem to have.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 21, 2025 07:30 PM (Ai3df)

58 Well done, Rick. I have the 20” ss barrel. Great gun.
Posted by: RI Red

I ordered the PSA GEN3 PA10 18" Mid-length .308 WIN 1/10 Stainless Steel15" Lightweight M-LOK STR 2-Stage Rifle

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:30 PM (jddXn)

59 Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:15 PM (zMLZ6)

You're welcome! I even mention fundamentals!

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 07:30 PM (QNMzx)

60 The blasters are prepping for the MoMe. We are driving from NoVa to Texas so bringing stuff. sra blaster insisted on more power for the spotting scope and I outfitted it with a better tripod. We have DOPE books. And I bought ammo. More on that later.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 07:31 PM (RoO7G)

61 I saw part of Vincent Price's Last Man on Earth via Rifftrax. It was interesting.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, +CK+ at September 21, 2025 07:33 PM (0aYVJ)

62 For those not into gubs as the rest of us, you'll still have a ton of fun socializing. And watching Cow Horse Queen "move them doggies" along is always fun to watch!

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:33 PM (BCwQW)

63 I saw a EweTube video where some guys wore out a "cheap" AR-15 barrel with 6K rounds. But they ran a bunch of them through on full auto.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 21, 2025 07:33 PM (Ai3df)

64 I’ll wear a Hawaiian shirt, but I just don’t know what gun to wear with it!
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (eD91D)
Your Barbecue Gun, of course. It IS Texas, after all!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:34 PM (uvSRU)

65 Last Man on Earth is my favorite film adaptation of I Am Legend. Probably because I have a soft spot for Vincent Price.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:34 PM (ftFVW)

66 Check Walmart. Seriously.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:17 PM

I love this idea.
Posted by: Iris at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (bOJ2I)

I'll do it, even though I cannot be there this year. Wife and I talked with Jim for some time at the '22 meetup. Such a good man.

Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, +CK+ at September 21, 2025 07:35 PM (0aYVJ)

67 EdL is right. The World Show is the week after the MoMe so we will be prepping for that event as well.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:35 PM (kurEY)

68 Hawaiian shirt day obviously requires a bandoleer of pineapple grenades.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:36 PM (tT6L1)

69 I ordered the PSA GEN3 PA10 18" Mid-length .308 WIN 1/10 Stainless Steel15" Lightweight M-LOK STR 2-Stage Rifle
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:30 PM (jddXn)

My experience is that it shoots 168s and 175s extremely well, but hates the 150s. I only found one load that was acceptable. Let me know how yours does.
It took me a little bit of time, but it’s one of my two favorite rifles now.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:36 PM (eD91D)

70 Evening, Horde...How goes it?

Found someone to take care of my cats on Oct 16-19, so I'm one step closer to going to TX...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2025 07:37 PM (IBQGV)

71 I just don't know which gun goes with this outfit!

Posted by: Fashionable Moron at September 21, 2025 07:38 PM (ftFVW)

72 My experience is that it shoots 168s and 175s extremely well, but hates the 150s. I only found one load that was acceptable. Let me know how yours does.
It took me a little bit of time, but it’s one of my two favorite rifles now.
Posted by: RI Red

Will do!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:38 PM (jddXn)

73 Perfessor, I hope you know how happy that makes me.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:38 PM (kurEY)

74 Your Barbecue Gun, of course. It IS Texas, after all!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:34 PM (uvSRU)

Oh, dear. You just highlighted a gap in my arsenal.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:38 PM (eD91D)

75 Good evening all

Something magical about 1911s. When picking up one of my Glocks I am immediately thinking about all kinds of things. Sighting or trigger pull or grip. Pickup my Kimber or Blaster's or Hrothgar's and I just shoot and hit the target. 9mm or 45 doesn't matter.
Just something about 1911s....

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 07:39 PM (t/2Uw)

76 My experience is that it shoots 168s and 175s extremely well, but hates the 150s. I only found one load that was acceptable. Let me know how yours does.
It took me a little bit of time, but it’s one of my two favorite rifles now.
Posted by: RI Red

I bought some 7.62x51 NATO PMC X-TAC 147 GRAIN FMJ-BT (500 ROUNDS) from Ammo Man. Once I see how it's shooting, I'll check other loads.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:41 PM (jddXn)

77 Just don’t go near the horse trailer or Ben Had’s kitchen table.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:24 PM

The latter is "mos def"* true, but the Horse Trailer, if you're lucky enough to have been selected for an access pass AND you still have an A Ticket in your ticket book is said by those who've participated to be the experience of a lifetime.

* as the kids these days say

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2025 07:41 PM (0sNs1)

78 Perfessor, I hope you know how happy that makes me.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:38 PM (kurEY)
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The TXMOME always feels like hanging out with the family I never knew I had.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2025 07:41 PM (IBQGV)

79 yo. Last week I said it was a 44Mag. I was mistaken. It's a GP100 357 mag ruger w a 3.06 barrel. Still, hand cannon enough for me!

Posted by: sTevo at September 21, 2025 07:43 PM (HNXEw)

80 I don't have a Hawaiian shirt but I have pants with palm trees. Will that work?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 07:44 PM (t/2Uw)

81 Sharon, that will do.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:45 PM (kurEY)

82 What about grass kilts, so 'rons don't feel left out?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2025 07:45 PM (0sNs1)

83 For the lurkers out there hesitating to go to the TXMoMe because you're afraid you'll be the biggest dork, fear not. I can almost assure you there are going to be plenty of other, bigger weirdos and dorks in attendance!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:46 PM (64qRd)

84 Range report: I took the H&K CC9 and .32 ACP Walther PPK to the range. Fired about 40 round through the CC9 and 25 through the PPK. Shot both two handed at 10 and 15 yards, one handed (strong side) at 7 yards using an FBI silhouette target. From 10 yards, I landed most of my shots center of mass. One handed at 7 yards and two handed at 15 were mediocre. Shooting .32 ACP with the PPK one handed is definitely easier than using 9mm in the CC9.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:46 PM (BCwQW)

85 AS far as A T F goes, F is covered.
A: by buddies kids run a distillery in Roanoke VA and I have a bottle of cask strength bourbon I'm saving for Oct beach week. On the T front. I'll prolly order 10 LFD l'granus from my FL connection.

Posted by: sTevo at September 21, 2025 07:46 PM (HNXEw)

86 Semi-on topic (they spit fire and make a lot of noise)

SpaceX has Falcon 9 launches scheduled for the 22nd, 23rd, 24th and 25th of September.

Cue Steely Dan's "IGY"

https://youtu.be/Ueivjr3f8xg

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 21, 2025 07:46 PM (Ai3df)

87 Duncanthrax, I think you may have to be the groundbreaker on tbat.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:47 PM (kurEY)

88 I can almost assure you there are going to be plenty of other, bigger weirdos and dorks in attendance!
Posted by: Weasel

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:47 PM (ftFVW)

89 No shooting, but bought some ammo.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 07:48 PM (LHPAg)

90 For the lurkers out there hesitating to go to the TXMoMe because you're afraid you'll be the biggest dork, fear not. I can almost assure you there are going to be plenty of other, bigger weirdos and dorks in attendance!
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:46 PM (64qRd)
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Guilty as charged and proud of it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2025 07:48 PM (IBQGV)

91 Ben Had, I can't wait to give you a hug.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 07:49 PM (t/2Uw)

92 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:47 PM (ftFVW)
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Nah, you're my cigar buddy! Plus there are bigger dorks and weirdos than you.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:49 PM (64qRd)

93 The first time you come to TX you just think ,"I'll give this a try".
The next year you can't wait to see your family again.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:50 PM (kurEY)

94 I’ll wear a Hawaiian shirt, but I just don’t know what gun to wear with it!
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM

Consult episodes of Magnum, P.I.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:50 PM (Wnv9h)

95 Nah, you're my cigar buddy! Plus there are bigger dorks and weirdos than you.
Posted by: Weasel

Bigger most likely... everyone is. Except Sharon ( willow's apprentice), she makes me feel giant.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:51 PM (ftFVW)

96 Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:50 PM (kurEY)
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That's what happened to me!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:51 PM (64qRd)

97 The first time you come to TX you just think ,"I'll give this a try".
The next year you can't wait to see your family again.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:50 PM

^^^ This. All of this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:52 PM (Wnv9h)

98 The newer Magnum PI had some of the best Hawaiian shirts I have ever seen. Different ones every episode.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 07:52 PM (t/2Uw)

99 Weasel, me too !

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:52 PM (kurEY)

100 The first time you come to TX you just think ,"I'll give this a try".
The next year you can't wait to see your family again.
Posted by: Ben Had

Truth! I came with an exit strategy the first time, realized in less than 5 minutes it wasn't needed.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:53 PM (ftFVW)

101 Hopkins & Allen Model 722, .22 Caliber Single Shot Rifle

See if the linky worky below.

I have one of these. kind of a family heirloom. will pass it down.
My dad found it in our house in 1961. They say it's boy scout trainer that was available for purchase via cereal bo tops bak around 1900. minw is serial 722.

Posted by: sTevo at September 21, 2025 07:55 PM (HNXEw)

102 Truth! I came with an exit strategy the first time, realized in less than 5 minutes it wasn't needed.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:53 PM (ftFVW)
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Mine was suddenly remembering I was supposed to be donating a kidney.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:55 PM (64qRd)

103 She Hobbit, my life is forever better with you in it.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:55 PM (kurEY)

104 Truth! I came with an exit strategy the first time, realized in less than 5 minutes it wasn't needed.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:53 PM

Always have an exit strategy.

Posted by: Q at September 21, 2025 07:55 PM (Wnv9h)

105 Vincent Price with a '56 chevy 2 door wagon. Nice.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 07:56 PM (snZF9)

106 Ah, the Gun Thread. Yesterday I went to the range for some hot Makarov-on-Makarov action. Specifically, I pitted a Bulgarian Makarov against a Polish P64, which is also 9x18mm.

The P64 is really nice. Good aesthetics, nice balance, feels good in the hand, and while the DA trigger is horrifically bad, the single action is excellent. It feels like an upper-tier central European .32 police pistol. I bet in .32 it would be a real sweetheart.

It is horrific in 9mm Makarov. The lighter weight makes this thing truly punishing to shoot. I hear people describe .380 as "snappy," but this little bugger is made of pure hate. After a bit of firing it, my palms were red, and when i offered it to a range companion, he only fired three rounds before handing it back.

Yet I persisted, and in time figured out that by keeping my lower fingers tight and the rest of my hand loose, I could bleed the excess recoil in to barrel rise. I'm not worried about limp-wristing because there is too much energy in the little bugger. It's got a fixed barrel so there is plentyof blowback to spare.

The Makarov was fine, and I got much better groups.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 07:56 PM (ZOv7s)

107 Ammo. I have been buying the cheapest .308 you can get usually. 147 grain. Have had decent results from it but we have started buying match grade for the longer ranges. sra blaster is intent on ringing the thousand so buying some spendier ammo. Dropped in the Sportsman's Warehouse and looked at all their stock and decided on some Hornady Match 178 grain BTHP. I bought 4 boxes of 20 and sra blaster says that is not enough. So I was able to track down the exact same ammo online for 2/3s the price - but only one outlet had that price everywhere else was close to the retail price at Sportsman's. So I got 4 more boxes.

Going to carry along some of our cheaper ammo too for more shooting.

Plugged the info into the Hornady DOF app so we will see how that goes.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 07:56 PM (RoO7G)

108 Somewhat late but still before 8pm Sunday evening greetings, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special hello to the caretaker of wounded FSJ, Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (v23vE)

109 Bigger most likely... everyone is. Except Sharon ( willow's apprentice), she makes me feel giant.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:51 PM (ftFVW)
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Right.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (tT6L1)

110 Your Barbecue Gun, of course. It IS Texas, after all!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:34 PM (uvSRU)

Does the current generation stainless steel Colt Python snubby fitted w/ ivory service grips (previously featured in this thread a couple of years back) qualify?

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (BCwQW)

111 Hopkins & Allen Model 722, .22 Caliber Single Shot Rifle

See if the linky worky below.

I have one of these. kind of a family heirloom. will pass it down.
My dad found it in our house in 1961. They say it's boy scout trainer that was available for purchase via cereal bo tops bak around 1900. minw is serial 722.
Posted by: sTevo

That sounds so cool.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (jddXn)

112 There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated
Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever
known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an
American at all.

This is just as true of the man who puts "native" before the hyphen as of the man who puts German
or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul.
Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who
holds any other allegiance.

But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as
good an American as anyone else.

...

Posted by: pawn at September 21, 2025 07:58 PM (PmITa)

113 Plugged the info into the Hornady DOF app so we will see how that goes.
Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 07:56 PM (RoO7G)
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Don't forget you will need to adjust the results based on local atmospheric conditions on the day you're shooting.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:58 PM (64qRd)

114 blake is a gentleman. He always bends down a little to hug you.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 07:59 PM (kurEY)

115 No shooting, but bought some ammo.
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 07:48 PM (LHPAg)
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Over the last couple of weeks I reorganized my ammo to provide easer access and higher visibility for inventory purposes. As a result, I learned that I'm down about 1,000 rounds since this time last year, and some calibers are at critical levels. Happily ammo prices are falling, so restocking will be cheaper.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 07:59 PM (ZOv7s)

116 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (v23vE)
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Howdy, S'puppy!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:59 PM (64qRd)

117 Does the current generation stainless steel Colt Python snubby fitted w/ ivory service grips (previously featured in this thread a couple of years back) qualify?
Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM

It is fully engraved with multiple gold inlays?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (0sNs1)

118 The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its
continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities,
an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans,
Scandinavian-Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart
feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American
Republic.

"The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there
ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who
yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly
20 mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the
land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American."

-Theodore Roosevelt

Posted by: pawn at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (PmITa)

119 Ben Had, we need to get CHQ's immortal words from the first MoMe engraved somewhere.

Weren't they something like, "Who are these people and where did they come from?"*

*note, expletives were involved in the original wording, I think.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (tT6L1)

120 The P64 is really nice. Good aesthetics, nice balance, feels good in the hand, and while the DA trigger is horrifically bad, the single action is excellent. It feels like an upper-tier central European .32 police pistol. I bet in .32 it would be a real sweetheart.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 07:56 PM (ZOv7s)

Should be, considering that the Russians essentially stole the design of the Walther PP/PPK and chambered in the 9mm X 18 cartridge.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)

121 my life is forever better with you in it.
Posted by: Ben Had

Same to you, dear lady!

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (ftFVW)

122 One of the great things about standing at the firing line is that it doesn't matter how tall one is to hit the target. 🤠😉

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (t/2Uw)

123 The closest experience to shooting the P64 was firing .357 magnum from a snubbie.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (ZOv7s)

124 Gothic take on Kirk -
youtu.be/ltthBr31fcE
Jake Munro (first time I've been on that channel) is explaining left wing authoritarianism. To his audience of goth fans who may or may not be receptive.

Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 08:01 PM (gKWVE)

125 That sounds so cool.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (jddXn)

Back in the 70s and 80s, my grandfather used to shoot squirrels of his bird feeder from his kitchen window using bird shoot.

Pic from link doesnt show the ring and screw to detach the barrel so the gun can fit in a back pack.

Posted by: sTevo at September 21, 2025 08:02 PM (HNXEw)

126 BBQ gun 1911 in a Yaqui is not a bad option.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 08:02 PM (RoO7G)

127 blake, CHQ has a remembrance speech in the works. This is going to be epic.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:02 PM (kurEY)

128 Took apart the ole .30-06 put a composite stick, lapped the rings, added a new Leupold scope 4-12x.

Zeroed with factory ammo. It was crappy 3 inch groups.

The reloads came in to 1inch.

Ready for deer season next weekend

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:03 PM (WF/xn)

129 Should be, considering that the Russians essentially stole the design of the Walther PP/PPK and chambered in the 9mm X 18 cartridge.
Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (BCwQW)
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For sure. There's a whole class of guns that are Walther knock-offs and disassemble by pulling down the trigger guard. The actual PP is better than all of them, though.

At some point I need to get a PPK/S. in .32. I bet that would be sweet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:03 PM (ZOv7s)

130 t is fully engraved with multiple gold inlays?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2025 08:00 PM (0sNs1)

Sorry, it's still a shooter. So no fancy stuff.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:03 PM (BCwQW)

131 Evening, Weasel, and Gun Thread fans!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:04 PM (hA1Nw)

132 Back in the 70s and 80s, my grandfather used to shoot squirrels of his bird feeder from his kitchen window using bird shoot.

Pic from link doesnt show the ring and screw to detach the barrel so the gun can fit in a back pack.
Posted by: sTevo

The stories that little rifle could tell.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 08:04 PM (jddXn)

133 Truth! I came with an exit strategy the first time, realized in less than 5 minutes it wasn't needed.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:53 PM (ftFVW)
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Mine was suddenly remembering I was supposed to be donating a kidney.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:55 PM (64qRd)

I had none. Guns, Texas, booze...

I remember sitting with a cigar, a bourbon, looking the scenery, and I remember turning to somebody, maybe LCD, and I said "They ain't doing this in Bangladesh, I'll tell you that much"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:05 PM (snZF9)

134 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:04 PM (hA1Nw)
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Howdy AOP!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:05 PM (64qRd)

135 57 I own several PSA AR 15's. Unless you're putting over 10k rounds through them, they are very solid rifles. Work well. Some durability issues over the long term but few people will encounter them and they have a good warranty if they do.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 07:25 PM (xcxpd)

And 10K of ammo at 50 cents a round is $5000. This is a good problem to have.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at September 21, 2025 07:30 PM (Ai3df)

I'll grant you, not everyone will run into PSA durability issues. That makes them good guns for most Americans.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at September 21, 2025 08:05 PM (xcxpd)

136 12
‘ Frustrating. I can only pray I don't do that if it is game time.’

It’s actually good you learn your vulnerability now instead of at game time. And you’ll take the time you need for your shot. You’ll send Mr. Church-shooter where he needs to go.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 21, 2025 08:05 PM (3wi/L)

137 In the Rifles vs Ballistic Steel video, did anyone else notice there were what appeared to be metal fragments that preceded the bullet out of the Mosin-Nagant? Look for it starting at about 08:57 through 9:09.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 08:06 PM (QNMzx)

138 Hopkins & Allen Model 722, .22 Caliber Single Shot Rifle"

That looks awesome. I love those

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:06 PM (WF/xn)

139 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM (uvSRU)

I think that was my suggestion? Not sure which evening it should be, but I will for sure be bringing one or two.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:07 PM (hA1Nw)

140 For sure. There's a whole class of guns that are Walther knock-offs and disassemble by pulling down the trigger guard. The actual PP is better than all of them, though.

At some point I need to get a PPK/S. in .32. I bet that would be sweet.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:03 PM (ZOv7s)

The PP is also back in both .32 and .380. I saw one on a table at the last gun show. It disappeared within two hours after the doors opened. They're available in stainless and black. $969 MSRP. So far, they're tough to find unless you special ordered one.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:08 PM (BCwQW)

141 AOP, Thursday night.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:08 PM (kurEY)

142 I remember sitting with a cigar, a bourbon, looking the scenery, and I remember turning to somebody, maybe LCD, and I said "They ain't doing this in Bangladesh, I'll tell you that much"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:05 PM

Oh, my goodness I cannot believe the things that I am hearing at this time!

Posted by: Mohammed M. Mohammed, Minister of Jute at September 21, 2025 08:08 PM (Wnv9h)

143 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM (uvSRU)

If I wear a Hawaiian shirt, do I have to wear pants too?

Posted by: sTevo at September 21, 2025 08:08 PM (HNXEw)

144 I'll grant you, not everyone will run into PSA durability issues. That makes them good guns for most Americans.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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I agree. Plus, plenty of non-PSA parts and accessories. AR-15 design has a multitude of options, optics choices, barrel choices, etc.

AR-10s builds are a bit different so either buy one whole from PSA, etc. or get guidance on a build.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:09 PM (WDjG6)

145 If I wear a Hawaiian shirt, do I have to wear pants too?
Posted by: sTevo

You should at least plan on a loin cloth.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 08:10 PM (ftFVW)

146 sTevo, that will require you submitting a posterior photo.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:10 PM (kurEY)

147 I’m worried.
Ben Had has not said anything about hugging me.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:10 PM (xTinh)

148 At some point I need to get a PPK/S. in .32. I bet that would be sweet.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:03 PM (ZOv7s)

The PP is also back in both .32 and .380. I saw one on a table at the last gun show. It disappeared within two hours after the doors opened. They're available in stainless and black. $969 MSRP. So far, they're tough to find unless you special ordered one.
Posted by: Ed L
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Every now and again Centerfire Systems in KY comes up with some old milsurps and they did have Walther PPs a while back. Good to bookmark and check if you want a shooter, not a collector model. Old Western Scrounger also comes up with some odd items from time to time.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:11 PM (WDjG6)

149 Don't forget you will need to adjust the results based on local atmospheric conditions on the day you're shooting.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 07:58 PM (64qRd)

Yessir!

The app lets you set favorites so I did the baseline and it will make it easy to adjust for conditions.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 08:11 PM (RoO7G)

150 That M14 brought back memories. I qualified expert with the M14 while going through infantry training in the Army back in 1967. I liked that rifle. Once I got the sights zeroed in, I got to be pretty good.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 21, 2025 08:11 PM (5xuJ/)

151 Are we still planning Hawaiian shirts one night to honor Jin SND's memory? I need to plan my wardrobe
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at September 21, 2025 07:14 PM (uvSRU)

With the amount of guns, I would think a 21 gun salute should be a thing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:11 PM (snZF9)

152 I wear a Hawaiian shirt, do I have to wear pants too?
Posted by: sTevo

You should at least plan on a loin cloth.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025

Would also recommend checking the weather which can go from hot and dry to monsoon in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 08:12 PM (t/2Uw)

153 I’m worried.
Ben Had has not said anything about hugging me.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:10 PM

Ben Had is stealthy. When you least expect a hug, expect it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)

154 RI Red, I'm gonna hug you til you cry uncle.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (kurEY)

155 I’m worried.
Ben Had has not said anything about hugging me.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:10 PM

Ben Had is stealthy. When you least expect a hug, expect it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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I think he should be worried.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (64qRd)

156 The PP is also back in both .32 and .380. I saw one on a table at the last gun show. It disappeared within two hours after the doors opened. They're available in stainless and black. $969 MSRP. So far, they're tough to find unless you special ordered one.
Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:08 PM (BCwQW)
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I've got a Manurhin PP that is pretty damn sweet. Or rather, had one before the canoe sank.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (ZOv7s)

157 92 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:47 PM (ftFVW)
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Nah, you're my cigar buddy! Plus there are bigger dorks and weirdos than you.
Posted by: Weasel

I feel seen

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (mT+6a)

158 Berserker, what a great idea.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:14 PM (kurEY)

159 RI Red, you'll definitely get one from me.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 08:14 PM (t/2Uw)

160 I think he should be worried.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM

I think you're right.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)

161 123 The closest experience to shooting the P64 was firing .357 magnum from a snubbie.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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I almost always wear target gloves--no sense beating your hand up at the range and gloves make it easier to clean up afterwards. I also use to get slide bite from my PPK (original GCA 68 banned model) in 380 if you use a high grip. Gloves helped stop that. Accurate firearms, unpleasant to fire, really heavy double action trigger. Not a fan.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:14 PM (WDjG6)

162 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 07:47 PM (ftFVW)
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Nah, you're my cigar buddy! Plus there are bigger dorks and weirdos than you.
Posted by: Weasel

I feel seen
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (mT+6a)
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Well you're up there for sure, but still nowhere near the top!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:14 PM (64qRd)

163 Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:11 PM (WDjG6)

Whig, as of this AM, AIM Surplus still had its sale on S&B ammo in .32 ACP going for $6.95 per box of 25.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:15 PM (BCwQW)

164 RI Red, I'm gonna hug you til you cry uncle.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (kurEY)

Don’t you threaten me with a good time!

Seriously, looking forward to it. I’ve been lax in attendance.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:16 PM (xTinh)

165 If anyone is planning on driving to the MoMe from Florida, I would like to offer my superb driving and substantial financial assistance.

Please try and decipher my email from the link in my nic or contact Ben Had.

Posted by: pawn at September 21, 2025 08:16 PM (PmITa)

166 Would also recommend checking the weather which can go from hot and dry to monsoon in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 08:12 PM (t/2Uw)

Who needs pants on a monsoon?

Posted by: sTevo at September 21, 2025 08:16 PM (HNXEw)

167 The stories that little rifle could tell.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 08:04 PM (jddXn)
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That's one of the reasons I got into milsurp collecting. It's crazy to think of the lathes turning away in Factory 21 in 1945, creating a Chiang Kai-Shek pattern Mauser 98k. Then the civil war and Korea. It probably came here as a bringback from Vietnam, but imagine the guy on the line if he realized where it was ultimately going.

And honestly, who knows where it will go from here. We don't really own stuff, we get a lifelong lease.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:16 PM (ZOv7s)

168 Welp, made a 1,000 yard match and finally started moving my score the right direction. My wind calls were okay and I managed to shoot an 87. Certainly not championship scores, but, with my dreadful showings the last couple of outings, I'm happy to trend in a different direction.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at September 21, 2025 07:12 PM (tT6L1)

***

I'd love to shoot an 87.
On the golf.course. I'm probably too old.for.that kind of score at that range. I'm probably sub-500 meters now.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2025 08:17 PM (2WIwB)

169 AOP, Thursday night.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:08 PM (kurEY)

Roger on that, Ben Had.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:17 PM (hA1Nw)

170 I'm picking up a Ruger Old Army tomorrow. Talk about caliber creep, now I will have propellant creep.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:18 PM (jc0TO)

171 I almost always wear target gloves--no sense beating your hand up at the range and gloves make it easier to clean up afterwards. I also use to get slide bite from my PPK (original GCA 68 banned model) in 380 if you use a high grip. Gloves helped stop that. Accurate firearms, unpleasant to fire, really heavy double action trigger. Not a fan.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:14 PM (WDjG6)
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I've long maintained that .380 was too heavy for a design that was optimized for .32.

I'm on the lookout for gloves, but can't find ones that speak to me.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:18 PM (ZOv7s)

172 I've got a Manurhin PP that is pretty damn sweet. Or rather, had one before the canoe sank.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:13 PM (ZOv7s)

Forgot to add that I'm bringing one of the new .32 PPK/S SD variants, along with a suppressor. Shooting that suppressed is easy and a ton of fun, as long as you're not in a bullseye competition.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:20 PM (BCwQW)

173 Hugs, grass skirts and cigars! And shoot in’.
See? Attendez vous!

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:20 PM (xTinh)

174 Before my brother died he told me he wanted me to have a black powder rifle that he had made. I passed that rifle on to a son of a dear friend. That son passed it on to his son. Now it has been passed on to great grand son.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:20 PM (kurEY)

175 That's one of the reasons I got into milsurp collecting. It's crazy to think of the lathes turning away in Factory 21 in 1945, creating a Chiang Kai-Shek pattern Mauser 98k. Then the civil war and Korea. It probably came here as a bringback from Vietnam, but imagine the guy on the line if he realized where it was ultimately going.

And honestly, who knows where it will go from here. We don't really own stuff, we get a lifelong lease.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:16 PM (ZOv7s)

I got to fire a PPSh-41 one time . The damn thing looked like it was made in somebody's garage with files, drill press, and a hammer. I was thinking about the dude who made that, that's for sure.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)

176 Have to say that Rifles vs Ballistic Steel video was absolutely fantastic. Great camera work and visualization of the kinetic energy transfer.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 08:21 PM (QNMzx)

177 AR-10s builds are a bit different so either buy one whole from PSA, etc. or get guidance on a build.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:09 PM

Yeah, even built to the same pattern, uppers and lowers might not go together. I had a PSA lower and tried to put a Bear Creek side-charging upper on it and it just wouldn't go. A couple of thousands wrong between the pins. I wasn't going to file on it so I had to buy a separate lower from BC.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:23 PM (jc0TO)

178 Whig, as of this AM, AIM Surplus still had its sale on S&B ammo in .32 ACP going for $6.95 per box of 25.
Posted by: Ed L
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Glad that people can get ahold of it. In my case, not being able to shoot the last several years and inheriting a buttload of ammo, components, etc. means I probably won't be buying ammo anytime soon nor powder/primers/bullets.

I will try to pass along any good deals that I see.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (WDjG6)

179 What is the predominate rifle and pistol calibers used at the Texas MoMe?

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)

180 You should at least plan on a loin cloth.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2025 08:10 PM

This is new for this year, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (0sNs1)

181 I got to fire a PPSh-41 one time . The damn thing looked like it was made in somebody's garage with files, drill press, and a hammer. I was thinking about the dude who made that, that's for sure.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:21 PM (snZF9)
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It's fascinating to think about how things moved around, and I'm especially drawn to functional but well-used firearms, the ones that got carried rather than sat in an arsenal waiting to be looted or sold off.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:25 PM (ZOv7s)

182 Interesting to watch the $500 v $3000 1911.

I have one of each.
Shoot both very well.

I am fortunate to have them. Wonder how a blind firing test would work.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2025 08:25 PM (AXtX0)

183 And honestly, who knows where it will go from here. We don't really own stuff, we get a lifelong lease.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:16 PM

*Weasel katana has entered the chat*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:25 PM (Wnv9h)

184 Yeah, even built to the same pattern, uppers and lowers might not go together. I had a PSA lower and tried to put a Bear Creek side-charging upper on it and it just wouldn't go. A couple of thousands wrong between the pins. I wasn't going to file on it so I had to buy a separate lower from BC.
Posted by: toby928

IIRC PSA uses a low DPMS pattern, Aero Precision uses a high DPMS pattern and Armalite used the original odder AR-10 specs. Not that much of a standard on some key parts like barrels, receivers,and handguards.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:26 PM (WDjG6)

185 What is the predominate rifle and pistol calibers used at the Texas MoMe?
Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)

All of them?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:26 PM (hA1Nw)

186 What is the predominate rifle and pistol calibers used at the Texas MoMe?
Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM

Yes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:26 PM (Wnv9h)

187 Sharon, my hug will be very genteel. Gotta let your new parts settle in.
Then we can compare scars.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:26 PM (xTinh)

188 Watching Hickok 45, - during WW I, while we were shooting Germans with Springfields (Mauser action) we were paying Germany royalties for the use of that action.

What a world.

And they say Ford was a Nazi for building VWs.

What a world.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 21, 2025 08:27 PM (Zx8G2)

189 If Colt wants to print some money, it needs to do new replica versions of the Pocket Hammerless in .32 and .380, and then do polymer upgrades for modern carry.

They could print their own money.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:27 PM (ZOv7s)

190 I figure a lot of practice Euroball for the pistols. Maybe .38spl.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:28 PM (jc0TO)

191 I will prolly bring my gun with me, but my reflexes are so shaky lately that I doubt I will be able to even hold the gun steady enough to pull the trigger. It's a fun little gun - a Beretta Bobcat - so if anyone wants to try it out, they are more than welcome to take it for a spin 😊♥️

It really makes me sad, because I haven't been able to shoot it since I got it - there was some sort of problem with the barrel tilt mechanism, and it wouldn't close to shoot. It has not been tested by me because by the time I got it back from the Beretta fixers, I was already undergoing treatment for my cancer.

Might try to shoot it while I am at the MoMe - it will depend on my muscle strength on the day of.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at September 21, 2025 08:28 PM (SRRAx)

192 *Weasel katana has entered the chat*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:25 PM (Wnv9h)
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When I grow up and have actual money, I'm getting one of those Japanese matchlocks from the 16th Century.

Still cheaper than a 1918 Colt 1911, which is kind of crazy if you think about it.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:29 PM (ZOv7s)

193 When picking up one of my Glocks I am immediately thinking about all kinds of things. Sighting or trigger pull or grip.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 21, 2025 07:39 PM

Clearly, you don't appreciate perfection.

Posted by: zombie Gaston Glock at September 21, 2025 08:29 PM (0sNs1)

194 I've long maintained that .380 was too heavy for a design that was optimized for .32.

I'm on the lookout for gloves, but can't find ones that speak to me.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Weightlifting gloves without finger tips work as do regular golf and driving gloves. Get the padded palm types though if using with hard kicking firearms. I already have deterioration in feeling my fingers due to peripheral neuropathy so I last used fingerless types so I had some sense of trigger feel.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:29 PM (WDjG6)

195 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at September 21, 2025 08:28 PM (SRRAx)
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We can assist you in whatever way you like!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:30 PM (64qRd)

196 What is the predominate rifle and pistol calibers used at the Texas MoMe?

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)

Yes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:30 PM (snZF9)

197 189 If Colt wants to print some money, it needs to do new replica versions of the Pocket Hammerless in .32 and .380, and then do polymer upgrades for modern carry.

They could print their own money.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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A company did just that a few years ago. Based in CT and made exact replicas of the 1903/1908 models. US Armament and apparently still sell them.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:32 PM (WDjG6)

198 I'm picking up a Ruger Old Army tomorrow. Talk about caliber creep, now I will have propellant creep.
Posted by: toby928

That is like the Holy Grail of black powder handguns.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 08:32 PM (jddXn)

199 Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)
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If I had to guess I'd say 9mm and .45acp on the handgun range, and probably.308 and 5.56mm on the rifle range, but you will see a little bit of everything.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:32 PM (64qRd)

200 Theresa.

We can set you up with sandbags and tables and all the support you need. You pull the trigger and you’ll hit your target.

I am looking forward to seeing the smile on your beautiful face.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2025 08:33 PM (mT+6a)

201 198 I'm picking up a Ruger Old Army tomorrow. Talk about caliber creep, now I will have propellant creep.
Posted by: toby928
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Thank Bill Ruger for that one personally. He made sure it got made.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:34 PM (WDjG6)

202 Posted by: nurse ratched at September 21, 2025 08:33 PM (mT+6a)
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Make WBG help!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:34 PM (64qRd)

203 If Colt wants to print some money, it needs to do new replica versions of the Pocket Hammerless in .32 and .380, and then do polymer upgrades for modern carry.

They could print their own money.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:27 PM (ZOv7s)

As long as we are drinking from the wishing well, how about a nice modern version of a .32 top break revolver, maybe chambered in .32 ACP. With the auto-eject feature, and a speed loader, you could reload almost as quickly as with an auto pistol.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:35 PM (hA1Nw)

204 A company did just that a few years ago. Based in CT and made exact replicas of the 1903/1908 models. US Armament and apparently still sell them.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:32 PM (WDjG6)
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Huh, just found them. The problem is that actual Colts are cheaper than what they offer.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:36 PM (ZOv7s)

205 Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)
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If I had to guess I'd say 9mm and .45acp on the handgun range, and probably.308 and 5.56mm on the rifle range, but you will see a little bit of everything.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:32 PM

I will almost certainly miss the fun again this year but I could send ammo to help the joy. Possible? I could ship it there or to you or maybe have Piper carry a couple for 50cal cans. Of course then I would have to drive the six miles and introduce myself to her.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:36 PM (jc0TO)

206 53 I’ll wear a Hawaiian shirt, but I just don’t know what gun to wear with it!
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (eD91D)
You can conceal five 1911s under a Hawaiian shirt. Ask Hrothgar.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (LHPAg)

207 Duty day at the range was fairly mellow. Did manage to try out my 30-06 loads with the “new” bullet, just another 150g FMJBT, using same load of TAC, but bullet has a canneleure that’s exposed in my load (OAL 3.3). They work fine.

Time of year where non-members show up to zero their hunting rifles, had just a few this day. But 2 interesting ones close to closing time. One Navy kid who’s a real hunter (bear, elk, cougar, and archery as well) was able to help the young dude-bro who showed up at the very end (kept the range open past closing for them). Young guy is on the US Olympic rugby team, that lives/trains here. He’s also a local, which surprised me. Anyway I paid attention as the Navy guy helped bore-sight/zero the youngster’s rifle. It’s a useful skill, we get a lot of people who need that help, and our sighting guru on my team sadly passed away back in December.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (FaOSD)

208 Whig, are you able to attend TX?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (xTinh)

209 If Colt wants to print some money, it needs to do new replica versions of the Pocket Hammerless in .32 and .380, and then do polymer upgrades for modern carry.

They could print their own money.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:27 PM (ZOv7s)

I am very close to buying a Colt Peacemaker Army in .45 They are spendy, $2,300, oof, I also want a blued Python but I think I want the SA more. And......

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (WF/xn)

210 What a world.

Posted by: Braenyard
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US went a bit stupidly into that one. US needed a new rifle due to the new spitzer bullets and stripper clips and the Krag just was not going to cut it. So they combined Krag features like the two piece firing pin setup and the bolt safety with Mauser locking lugs in front. Not enough difference between the designs for Springfield Armory to get away with violating Mauser patents.

Can't honestly remember whether Britain or US paid Mauser royalties for the P14/1917 design--those were even more Mauser like than the 1903. Better design than the m98 too--but heavy. Best issue sights in WWI for that matter.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM (WDjG6)

211 As long as we are drinking from the wishing well, how about a nice modern version of a .32 top break revolver, maybe chambered in .32 ACP. With the auto-eject feature, and a speed loader, you could reload almost as quickly as with an auto pistol.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:35 PM (hA1Nw)
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Let's go all in, shall we? Chambered in .32 H&R Magnum!

Iver Johnson top-breaks are absurdly cheap. Those things are like catnip for me. I love $100 guns.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM (ZOv7s)

212 I’ll wear a Hawaiian shirt, but I just don’t know what gun to wear with it!
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (eD91D)

Uziulele

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM (144I4)

213 When I grow up and have actual money, I'm getting one of those Japanese matchlocks from the 16th Century.

Still cheaper than a 1918 Colt 1911, which is kind of crazy if you think about it.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd

There a guy in a black powder group I'm on on facebook. He is in Japan. His whole club does the period correct clothing and matchlocks during their club shoots. It's pretty interesting.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 08:39 PM (jddXn)

214 If Colt wants to print some money, it needs to do new replica versions of the Pocket Hammerless in .32 and .380, and then do polymer upgrades for modern carry.

They could print their own money.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:27 PM (ZOv7s)

Colt has licensed production of both the 1903 (,32ACP) and 1908 (.380 ACP) to US Armament MFG. You can choose between the parkerized ($1,799 MSRP), blued ($1,999 MSRP) and royal blue ($2,249 MSRP). Everything is still machined and finished per the old school Colt way, which is why the prices are a bit high. No polymers, no MIM parts.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:40 PM (BCwQW)

215 Ben Had, if you are still here, I will be mailing fish this week, and will let you know by email when I have sent it.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Pickle Queen of AK at September 21, 2025 08:40 PM (urtE/)

216 Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:36 PM (jc0TO)
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That's a very generous offer, and completely up to you. The people bringing guns always bring a little extra to share, and the folks not bringing guns and using loaners usually stop locally and pick up what they plan on shooting.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 08:40 PM (64qRd)

217 Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (FaOSD)

Funny, I just went to zero my deer rifle and try some -06 reloads. It was pretty quick. I wished I had brought a few other things to shoot

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:40 PM (WF/xn)

218 Can't honestly remember whether Britain or US paid Mauser royalties for the P14/1917 design--those were even more Mauser like than the 1903. Better design than the m98 too--but heavy. Best issue sights in WWI for that matter.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM

Not disputing but I wonder what patent they would have infringed. The P14/17 is cock on close like an Enfield, so not the typical Mauser action. Maybe it was the stripper clip.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:40 PM (jc0TO)

219 I’ll wear a Hawaiian shirt, but I just don’t know what gun to wear with it!
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 07:28 PM (eD91D)
You can conceal five 1911s under a Hawaiian shirt. Ask Hrothgar.
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (LHPAg)

At my age, I can barely keep one 1911 from sagging.
Oh. TMI.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:41 PM (xTinh)

220 Mariners laying down the pimp hand to the Astros, 1-7

Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 08:41 PM (gKWVE)

221 Can't honestly remember whether Britain or US paid Mauser royalties for the P14/1917 design--those were even more Mauser like than the 1903. Better design than the m98 too--but heavy. Best issue sights in WWI for that matter.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM (WDjG6)
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I put an order into the CMP for and M1917 that was used as a parade/ceremonial rifle. These are the last they have, and they did a price drop because they are trying to clear them out. (They clarify that you will NOT get one of the chromed versions!)

They used to be by snail mail, but they are going electronic, so I will see how this goes. I want one of their 1911s as soon as I dig out of the M1917 hole.

They will soon be offering 1903A3s that were used as parade rifles and were 'deactivated' but have since been restored. CMP is a freaking drug.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:42 PM (ZOv7s)

222 I am very close to buying a Colt Peacemaker Army in .45 They are spendy, $2,300, oof, I also want a blued Python but I think I want the SA more. And......

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (WF/xn)

I always wanted one of those.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:43 PM (snZF9)

223 tcn, I will email you in the morning to make sure I have given you correct address and next week is going to be tough because of horseshow.

Your generosity is so appreciated.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2025 08:44 PM (kurEY)

224 There a guy in a black powder group I'm on on facebook. He is in Japan. His whole club does the period correct clothing and matchlocks during their club shoots. It's pretty interesting.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 08:39 PM (jddXn)
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They go up for auction now and then and I saw one at a show not long ago. Obviously I would never fire something like that, but it would be a sweep object d'art for the Great Room. My wife agrees, and so this means it will come out of the decor budget, and not the gun budget.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:44 PM (ZOv7s)

225
Iver Johnson top-breaks are absurdly cheap. Those things are like catnip for me. I love $100 guns.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM (ZOv7s)

I'm a sucker for this stuff to, especially any odd, old or different .22

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:44 PM (WF/xn)

226 Dang Berserker, you got to shoot my grail gun. I think there are PPSh-41 kits out there, but I don’t weld. As for fit and finish, recall that guns from the Tula arsenal at one point had to go a few miles to be used at the front (as T-34s, not even painted, entered the fray yards from their factory in Stalingrad). The machining marks on Mosins from 43/44 can be pretty hilarious - but they work(ed).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 08:46 PM (FaOSD)

227 Back to real life, gotta mow. Pffft

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2025 08:46 PM (WF/xn)

228 Can't honestly remember whether Britain or US paid Mauser royalties for the P14/1917 design--those were even more Mauser like than the 1903. Better design than the m98 too--but heavy. Best issue sights in WWI for that matter.
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:38 PM

I have a 1917 in 30.06 I got it in the 80's for $175 from a store that had a gotten a few in. It was really clean. I couldn't pass it up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 08:46 PM (snZF9)

229 Huh, just found them. The problem is that actual Colts are cheaper than what they offer.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:36 PM (ZOv7s)

Keep in mind that these reproductions use more modern, stronger steels than the Colt originals. If you're going to shoot it a lot, you might be better off with a reproduction than buying and beating up an original. Also, the modern finishes are more durable than those of yesteryear. The old Colt bluing jobs are true works of art, but they won't stand up to the hundreds of rounds per session that serious shooters will throw at them.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:48 PM (BCwQW)

230 I won't be able to make it Thursday night because of work (mine and my lady's) so I'll miss the thing for Jim SND, but I'll be in Hawaiian shirts all weekend. Perhaps that will make up for it.

Look forward to seeing you all. Especially YOU. You know who you are.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 21, 2025 08:48 PM (VmDLh)

231 Damn...if we are I have to get a Hawaiian shirt.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 07:16 PM (Wnv9h)

I suppose if I'm going to carry my .45 1911 SOB, I need to get one anyway.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 08:49 PM (QNMzx)

232 You can conceal five 1911s under a Hawaiian shirt. Ask Hrothgar.
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 08:37 PM (LHPAg)

At my age, I can barely keep one 1911 from sagging.
Oh. TMI.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:41 PM (xTinh)

Yes, the sixth one just doesn't fit right and really prints!

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 08:49 PM (hOUT3)

233 Trying to convince Mr. TiFW to bring the Thompson sub-machine gun that we acquired from our gunsmith this year, but so far he is stubbornly refusing....

No idea what kind of ammo it uses. I'm not what you would call a gun "person" 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at September 21, 2025 08:49 PM (SRRAx)

234 208 Whig, are you able to attend TX?
Posted by: RI Red
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I simply doubt it though I would love to go this year and kept putting off making a final decision. Health keeps going sideways and I really did not want to harsh the mellow here.

FWIW, I have lost about half of my grip strength in my dominant hand in the last two years. My non-dominant is about twice as strong. And both docs and pt tell me that is gone for good due to nerve damage from compression. Basically I have a complication of psoriatic arthritis called ankylosing spondylitis of the spine--mid stage but progressive deterioration. And that means too widespread spinal damage to operate.

And the current Big Insurance drug is not doing much to stop the progression imho. They forced me off Humira two years ago (bioequivalent was now available) for a different one and that one doesn't seem to be doing much despite being at its highest dose now.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:50 PM (WDjG6)

235 Keep in mind that these reproductions use more modern, stronger steels than the Colt originals. If you're going to shoot it a lot, you might be better off with a reproduction than buying and beating up an original. Also, the modern finishes are more durable than those of yesteryear. The old Colt bluing jobs are true works of art, but they won't stand up to the hundreds of rounds per session that serious shooters will throw at them.
Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:48 PM (BCwQW)
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I'd never do intense range time with a vintage pistol. The point is to savor the experience, not build pin-point accuracy. The same goes with rifles.

Basically, there are workhorses and show horses.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:50 PM (ZOv7s)

236 About ammo. Prices. They are getting to "before times" levels.

A box of 50 9mm FMJ 12.99 retail.

It is tempting to say well ammo is plentiful and cheap I can get some at any time.

I say this is the before times to some future. If you have the wherewithal and storage space, buy.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 08:51 PM (RoO7G)

237 Yes, the sixth one just doesn't fit right and really prints!
Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 08:49 PM (hOUT3)

Hrothgar, I think you have my copy of Colin Henthorne's book, IIRC?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:52 PM (hA1Nw)

238 Sorry to hear that, Whig. I would certainly love to sit and chat.
I’m at the point, even with good health, that I’m not putting much off.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 08:53 PM (Jtz/H)

239 Trying to convince Mr. TiFW to bring the Thompson sub-machine gun that we acquired from our gunsmith this year, but so far he is stubbornly refusing....

No idea what kind of ammo it uses. I'm not what you would call a gun "person" 🤣🤣🤣
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at September 21, 2025 08:49 PM (SRRAx)

A Thompson Gun uses .45 ACP.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:53 PM (hA1Nw)

240 Here is the very Ruger I am picking up tomorrow. The seller insisted on sending it to an FFL because of the conversion cylinder, even though that isn't required.

https://tinyurl.com/ye2ahjk9

And FWP, my buddy the FFL decided to let his license lapse at the end of August so I have had to find a new guy.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:53 PM (jc0TO)

241 I have a 1917 in 30.06 I got it in the 80's for $175 from a store that had a gotten a few in. It was really clean. I couldn't pass it up.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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In full battle rattle, the 1917 is so heavy that even 174gr 30-06 have a very mild kick. They are about as heavy as the Garand. The P14 is an especial hoot to shoot in 303. Heavy as the 1917 but the 303 is a lighter kicking round. Century International, back a ways, built some 300 Win Mags out of P14 receivers (due to cartridge length and mag, the P14 receiver and feeding rails is a better fit.). That is one strong receiver.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:54 PM (WDjG6)

242 I just don't know which gun goes with this outfit!
Posted by: Fashionable Moron at September 21, 2025 07:38 PM (ftFVW)

Just like black, a 1911 goes with everything.
Or a nice revolver.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 08:54 PM (QNMzx)

243 No idea what kind of ammo it uses. I'm not what you would call a gun "person" 🤣🤣🤣
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at September 21, 2025 08:49 PM (SRRAx)

Unless you have one of the super rare variants, it's .45 ACP all the way. Same ammo as the GI 1911. Make sure they're 230 grain, full metal jacket rounds. Do not attempt to use hollow points or anything other than full metal jacketed rounds. General Thompson specifically called for his namesake gun to use GI .45 ACP ammo (i.e. 230 grain full metal jacket rounds).

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:55 PM (BCwQW)

244 Here is the very Ruger I am picking up tomorrow. The seller insisted on sending it to an FFL because of the conversion cylinder, even though that isn't required.

https://tinyurl.com/ye2ahjk9

And FWP, my buddy the FFL decided to let his license lapse at the end of August so I have had to find a new guy.
Posted by: toby928

THAT is pretty!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 08:56 PM (jddXn)

245 What is the predominate rifle and pistol calibers used at the Texas MoMe?

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)

Yes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

BD is not kidding.
shoot whatever you bring or beg to try someone else's.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 08:56 PM (p9oWE)

246 238 Sorry to hear that, Whig. I would certainly love to sit and chat. I’m at the point, even with good health, that I’m not putting much off.
Posted by: RI Red
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Wise not to. Last two years have been a sucker punch with operations, pt, etc. The people I see the most outside of the home are my doctors and my pt guy.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:57 PM (WDjG6)

247 I hope that I am comfortable with the new FFL since he is only 2 miles away as compared to my buddy who was 25 miles away. I have used the same FFL for 25 years so it is a loss to me that he has retired to raise Labradors and eggs.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 08:57 PM (jc0TO)

248 No shooting, but bought some ammo.
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 07:48 PM (LHPAg)

Yeah, I bought some ammo, too, for the MoMe. I have to weigh it out and see how much of what I bring and how much I snag on the way from DFW.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 08:57 PM (QNMzx)

249 Or a nice revolver.
Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 08:54 PM (QNMzx)
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For those with 'shaved' Webleys, Steinel is now offering downloaded .45 ACP specifically for Webleys. You can use the full moon clips and everything, and it's much cheaper than .455 and you don't need to rig an adapter.

Even better, it's cheaper than normal .45 ACP because less powder. Very thoughtful. I put some on the clock, and the average velocity of six shots was 497.5 fps, a bit slower than 557.3 for the .455. Just for fun I ran some through a Ballester-Molina and it was almost exactly 200 fps slower than standard loads.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 08:59 PM (ZOv7s)

250 Hrothgar, I think you have my copy of Colin Henthorne's book, IIRC?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 08:52 PM (hA1Nw)

Yes, and I apologize for the delay, both life and incompetence sort of got in the way. Is the AB address I have still good for you?

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 08:59 PM (hOUT3)

251 If you don't have a gun and you want to shoot I guarantee you someone at the MoMe will let you shoot something they brought. Morons are generous to a fault.

If there is something in particular you want to try raise it here someone will likely say they have one.

Up to and including a Tony Montana-style "little friend". Though probably not going to be able to shoot grenades at the ranch.

Posted by: blaster at September 21, 2025 09:00 PM (RoO7G)

252 BD is not kidding.
shoot whatever you bring or beg to try someone else's.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 08:56 PM (p9oWE)

My current plan to go to Corsicana by way of Apache Junction. Would you and the Missus like to ride along in the Suburban, or do your travel plans include some wandering?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:00 PM (hA1Nw)

253 They are about as heavy as the Garand.

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So, 9lbs. 6oz., or 9.6 lbs, can't recall. Carried one for two years.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2025 09:01 PM (XeU6L)

254 Does the current generation stainless steel Colt Python snubby fitted w/ ivory service grips (previously featured in this thread a couple of years back) qualify?
Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 07:57 PM (BCwQW)

Phew. I was worried they were pearl.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:01 PM (QNMzx)

255 Phew. I was worried they were pearl.
Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:01 PM

Only a pimp or my Grandfather would carry a pearl handled revolver.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 09:02 PM (jc0TO)

256 Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:50 PM (WDjG6)

I'm sorry to hear that, whig. I'd love to meet you in TX if you can make it.

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 09:03 PM (BCwQW)

257 My current plan to go to Corsicana by way of Apache Junction. Would you and the Missus like to ride along in the Suburban, or do your travel plans include some wandering?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Wandering is in the plan this year. Thanks for the offer!
Do you know when you'll be in AJ?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 09:03 PM (p9oWE)

258 Yes, and I apologize for the delay, both life and incompetence sort of got in the way. Is the AB address I have still good for you?
Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 08:59 PM (hOUT3)

Just bring it to the MoMee! In the very unlikely event that something unforeseen conspires to cancel my trip there, just hand it off to AZ Deplorable Moron, and I can get it from him at some later time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:03 PM (hA1Nw)

259 just hand it off to AZ Deplorable Moron, and I can get it from him at some later time.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I approve of this message.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 09:06 PM (p9oWE)

260 Wow, already past the food thread.

Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 09:06 PM (jc0TO)

261 Wandering is in the plan this year. Thanks for the offer!
Do you know when you'll be in AJ?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 09:03 PM (p9oWE)

I figure on arriving in AJ around about the 12th, maybe a day or two earlier. Depart for Corsicana on the morning of the 15th, go as far as Amarillo, over night there, and on to Corsicana.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:08 PM (hA1Nw)

262 Weasel, it's time for me to call it a night. Thanks for hosting this thread!

Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 09:09 PM (BCwQW)

263 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:03 PM (hA1Nw)

Consider it done. As penance of a sort, I will also bring a very old book for you that I think you will appreciate.

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 09:09 PM (hOUT3)

264 My current plan to go to Corsicana by way of Apache Junction. Would you and the Missus like to ride along in the Suburban, or do your travel plans include some wandering?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:00 PM (hA1Nw)
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Petticoat Junction > Apache Junction

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 09:10 PM (ZOv7s)

265 Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 09:09 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks for being here, Ed L. I'll email you tomorrow.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:10 PM (As86G)

266 I figure on arriving in AJ around about the 12th, maybe a day or two earlier. Depart for Corsicana on the morning of the 15th, go as far as Amarillo, over night there, and on to Corsicana.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
We'll be at a wedding on the 12th in Santa Barbara.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 09:10 PM (p9oWE)

267 Thanks to Weasel our excellent host. I have no range report and may not until next spring at the outdoor range at Crump Conservation Club in Linwood. Michigan Winter is coming. I fell and fractured my right thigh bone and I now have a titanium rod repairing the bone like steel rebar in concrete. When it is finished healing I intend to be shooting a M1 Garand that is presently a box of parts and four Model 1917 US Rifles, AKA US Enfields. I want to sell or trade two of the bolt action rifles as soon as I decide which ones I will be keeping. I bought three of them from CMP and would like to trade two of them for 1903 Springfields.

Posted by: Bond in Michigan at September 21, 2025 09:11 PM (BT5TR)

268 I approve of this message.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 21, 2025 09:06 PM (p9oWE)

Nothing like a backup plan! I will use blaster as my backup plan, although he doesn't know it yet!

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 09:11 PM (hOUT3)

269 O. M. G. Hawaiian shirts. WKRP Turkey Drop.

Don't know a thing about this company.

https://tinyurl.com/ytpa4529

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 09:12 PM (jddXn)

270 Posted by: Bond in Michigan at September 21, 2025 09:11 PM (BT5TR)
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Yikes! Hope your recovery is going well.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:13 PM (As86G)

271 Here is the very Ruger I am picking up tomorrow

* green with envy *

About ammo. Prices. They are getting to "before times" levels.

That's good to hear. I was at Sheel's today and saw that my favored Federal GM primers are down to ~$70/carton or a little under twice the "before times" price but way below the 4X prices I saw at peak crazy.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2025 09:14 PM (3nLb4)

272 My takeaway from the videos?
Ed Wilson said I don't have to clean my 1911.

Posted by: MkY at September 21, 2025 09:15 PM (cPGH3)

273 Welp, punching out for the night. Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel. See y'all in the Morning Report.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 09:16 PM (Wnv9h)

274 I wish everyone a good evening. Thanks for hosting the thread Weasel and thanks to other commenters here for making this a special time of the week.

Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 09:16 PM (WDjG6)

275 Adios RMBS and whig!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:18 PM (As86G)

276 That's good to hear. I was at Sheel's today and saw that my favored Federal GM primers are down to ~$70/carton or a little under twice the "before times" price but way below the 4X prices I saw at peak crazy.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2025 09:14 PM (3nLb4)
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I think everyone has now factored in a much larger reserve than before. I'm running low on certain calibers, but they're recreational ones - I will not be defending hearth and home with a Webley or a Makarov. There are better tools at hand.

What the falling prices do is make other stuff more accessible. I've about had it with PPU .32 S&W Long. Hard primers and very smokey. Gotta be a better option.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 09:18 PM (ZOv7s)

277 Welp, it's 9:19 thank you time.

Thank you!

Hope to see all y'all right here next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (As86G)

278 I noticed the nuance of not particularly inviting the scaredy cats to encroach on the comments, but here I am…
I have enjoyed this site since around THE 9-11, and am in awe of the comraderie , intelligence, flat-out hilariousness , and serious insight of all of you!
But, I’m an introvert. I like guns, have some, shoot them no nearly enough, and have little concept of this weird, foreign thing Weasel calls fundamentals.
My handle is less what it seems, and is a total reflection of my actual surname.
If you can convince me to come, this detail may be revealed…
I want to come. I think I need to come. Make me want to attend. Admittedly, I’m from CA, but the good part. The completely un-represented part.
I could absorb some skills, which seems…desirable.
So, where do I fly in? Stay? Recover from excessive bourbon and cigars, etc.?
I need some encouragement here. Can Y’all help?

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (7hdjp)

279 Forgot to add that I'm bringing one of the new .32 PPK/S SD variants, along with a suppressor.
Posted by: Ed L at September 21, 2025 08:20 PM (BCwQW)

Ed L, do you think that suppressor will fit on a 30X Tomcat barrel? (It's a 1/2 x 28 thread.)

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (QNMzx)

280 Punching out, as well.
I feel so much better talking about TX this year since I know I’m going. Last year sucked.
Thx, Weasel!

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2025 09:20 PM (QJ2Hs)

281 Weasel how goes the recovery and healing of your female supervisor there? Trust it's on-track.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:21 PM (U/Byj)

282 Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (7hdjp)
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Trust Weasel. It's worth it.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:22 PM (As86G)

283 there was some sort of problem with the barrel tilt mechanism, and it wouldn't close to shoot.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at September 21, 2025 08:28 PM (SRRAx)

My 30X requires me (at least, at present) to push the release button in to re-engage the barrel.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:23 PM (QNMzx)

284 Looks like it's that time. Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2025 09:23 PM (ZOv7s)

285 Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:21 PM (U/
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Thanks for axing! She's six weeks in with six more to go. I can tell you she's really tired of crutches!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:24 PM (As86G)

286 Trust Weasel. It's worth it.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:22 PM (As86G)/i]

There is iron in the words of Weasel!

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 09:25 PM (hOUT3)

287 Adios Red and AHL! Thanks for tuning in!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:25 PM (As86G)

288 Might go to the 2026 TX MoMe. Who knows.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 21, 2025 09:26 PM (CHHv1)

289 Started getting back into gubs just before the catastrophic election of 2008. So I experienced the panic buying/prices phenomenon immediately.

Started reloading not long before the Newtown incident. So I learned pretty quickly about component panics/pricing.

Based on those formative experiences, and one of my few correct specific predictions (ever) - that CA would before long enact some idiotic unconstitutional law making ammo purchasing more difficult and expensive - I set about stocking up on both ammo and components.

Thanks to reloading I have a "reserve" set aside of all my basic calibers (factory ammo) that I haven't touched, many years later. And with some minor restocking along the way (powder, bullets), have plenty of components.

Moral of the story obvious and simple. Stock up when prices and budgets allow, taking into account what and how much you shoot.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:27 PM (U/Byj)

290 ankylosing spondylitis
Posted by: whig at September 21, 2025 08:50 PM (WDjG6)

Makes you sound like a dinosaur. Capitalize on it. Somehow.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:30 PM (QNMzx)

291 269 O. M. G. Hawaiian shirts. WKRP Turkey Drop.

Don't know a thing about this company.

https://tinyurl.com/ytpa4529
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 09:12 PM (jddXn)
The shirts I bought a couple years ago for Jim and myself are made by Retro. Check them out, they're beautiful.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 09:31 PM (LHPAg)

292 288 Might go to the 2026 TX MoMe. Who knows.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 21, 2025 09:26 PM (CHHv1)

Do it, you will NOT regret it!
And get in practice by attending the 2025 TX MoMe!

Posted by: Hrothgar, The Hrothgar at September 21, 2025 09:33 PM (hOUT3)

293 I need some encouragement here.

No you don't. You know you want to do it or you would've kept it to yourself. Just do it already. Email Ben Had for all the rest of your questions.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2025 09:34 PM (3nLb4)

294 Only a pimp or my Grandfather would carry a pearl handled revolver.
Posted by: toby928 at September 21, 2025 09:02 PM (jc0TO)

But not just any pimp. A two-bit New Orleans pimp.
And I won't say a da** thing about your grandfather.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:34 PM (QNMzx)

295 Rhom, are you by chance from the USSR-CA on the left coast?
Yes, it’s oppressive buying ammo here.
Reloading equipment is suddenly an expensive proposition though.
Dillon seems like the Gold standard though.
Thoughts?

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:35 PM (7hdjp)

296 I want to come. I think I need to come. Make me want to attend. Admittedly, I’m from CA, but the good part. The completely un-represented part.
I could absorb some skills, which seems…desirable.
So, where do I fly in? Stay? Recover from excessive bourbon and cigars, etc.?
I need some encouragement here. Can Y’all help?

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (7hdjp)

Make you want to attend? Ok,the patented berserker/spicoli response- Don't be a dick, get your ass to Texas. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:35 PM (snZF9)

297

I meant every word of this:

It's not just a weekend of laughs, it's an opportunity to connect with lots of like-minded people and create lasting friendships and priceless memories. No kidding. Think that's hyperbole? It snot. Would your ol' pal Weasel lie to you? Well, yes he would, but not about this. TXMoMe veterans will attest to the funness and completely laid-back nature of the event. Don't be a dork, do yourself a favor and get yo' ass to Texas!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:36 PM (As86G)

298 Bob. Thanks. You’re helping!
None of what you said is false…

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:37 PM (7hdjp)

299 You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas!

Oh, wait….yeah, I AM in Texas. Thanks anyway, Davy.

I am trying to see if I can bring an inheritance there. Hopefully so but we will see.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 09:38 PM (bPFPB)

300 298 Bob. Thanks. You’re helping!
None of what you said is false…
Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:37 PM (7hdjp)
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We'll consider this matter resolved.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:38 PM (As86G)

301 42 I suspect DJT is a Jeffersonian deist rather than a traditional Christian.
Which is fine. He's in company with most the Founders, there.
Posted by: gKWVE at September 21, 2025 07:23 PM (gKWVE)

As was Churchill. Mentioned God constantly. Never mentioned Christ as far as I know.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 09:40 PM (bPFPB)

302 The TXMoMe is a whole lotta fun and a whole lotta great folks/morons! Great food, great booze, some shooty stuff and wonderful conversations. C'mon down!

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 09:40 PM (ha1wR)

303 The shirts I bought a couple years ago for Jim and myself are made by Retro. Check them out, they're beautiful.

Is that a company name? I bingled "retro hawaiian shirts" and got a bunch of links to sites claiming to sell "authentic" or "vintage" style shirts.

The one I was planning to wear is one I got from the CAF booth at an airshow with islands, palm trees, and Pacific theater warbirds.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2025 09:41 PM (3nLb4)

304 Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:37 PM (7hdjp)
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Actually, send me an email at the Gun Thread address if you don't mind.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:41 PM (As86G)

305 So, where do I fly in? Stay? Recover from excessive bourbon and cigars, etc.?
I need some encouragement here. Can Y’all help?
Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (7hdjp)

Personally, I'm flying into DFW, renting a car and driving down, then plan on staying in a nearby motel. I will be paying for extra baggage so I can bring pistols (in checked luggage) AND a double rifle case.

I was originally going to dive, but not having any PTO at my new job nixed that.

(I was gonna bring EVERYTHING if I did that.)

As to why you should come? I've only been to the NoVaMoMes. But I have met some of the absolutely best people and enjoyed the time with them. And I'm a bit of a misanthrope, so that's a real compliment to these folks.

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:42 PM (QNMzx)

306 Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:42 PM (QNMzx)
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I can't wait to see your reaction.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:44 PM (As86G)

307 You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas!

Oh, wait….yeah, I AM in Texas. Thanks anyway, Davy.

I am trying to see if I can bring an inheritance there. Hopefully so but we will see.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 21, 2025 09:38 PM (bPFPB)

Trying to see if you can bring an inheritance there?? You're in texas already, drive it the fuck over. You can mount it as a hood ornament and nobody will give a shit. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:45 PM (snZF9)

308 Reloading equipment is suddenly an expensive proposition though.
Dillon seems like the Gold standard though.

First, thanks for delurking. IMO, Dillon is great stuff if you're a high volume shooter. Otherwise, you can get a perfectly good start with a Lee Anniversary kit. Check Midway or similar vendors.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 21, 2025 09:45 PM (3nLb4)

309 And, before it slips away and I get willowed, THANK YOU, Weasel, for another great Gun Thread!

Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:46 PM (QNMzx)

310 Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:46 PM (QNMzx)
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Happy to do it. Thanks for being here every week!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:46 PM (As86G)

311 And, before it slips away and I get willowed, THANK YOU, Weasel, for another great Gun Thread!
Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:46 PM (QNMzx)

Likewise from me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:47 PM (hA1Nw)

312 Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:46 PM (QNMzx)
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Appreciate it, AOP!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:48 PM (As86G)

313 >>> 296
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So, where do I fly in? Stay? Recover from excessive bourbon and cigars, etc.?
I need some encouragement here. Can Y'all help?

Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (7hdjp)

Are you a communist, or do you like bacon??? Because we have *lots* of bacon at the TX MoMee.

Fly in through Dallas, Love Field recommended only because it's smaller, but both Love and DFW have several of the Horde who fly through. *Definitely* ask Ben Had about accommodations.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 21, 2025 09:48 PM (ULPxl)

314 311 And, before it slips away and I get willowed, THANK YOU, Weasel, for another great Gun Thread!
Posted by: GWB at September 21, 2025 09:46 PM (QNMzx)

Likewise from me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:47 PM (hA1Nw)

What AOP and GWB said!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 21, 2025 09:48 PM (v23vE)

315 And, before it slips away and I get willowed, THANK YOU, Weasel, for another great Gun Thread!

Me, too. I very seldom post on this section of AoSHQ, but I lurk every Sunday PM. Lots of good info and very good discussions of guns I've never seen.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 09:49 PM (ha1wR)

316 OddBob it's Retro Superstretch.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 09:49 PM (LHPAg)

317 Gunslinger, yes, SoCal. I actually have rarely bought ammo since the latest idiotic law was enacted a few years ago (or even before that, thanks to reloading). And as noted I stockpiled years back for multiple reasons not CA-specific.

Reloading. Super concise version. If you shoot enough, and/or shoot expensive calibers, reloading could be for you. It's fun, gives you flexibility in making ammo "custom" for you, and of course disconnects you from ammo panics and prices. Depending where you live, maximize purchase of used reloading equipment. Most of it is industrial quality and will outlive all of us, buying used is rarely any kind of gamble.

Lots more but that's a basic framework.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:50 PM (U/Byj)

318 Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 09:49 PM (ha1wR)
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Thanks for joining the fun!! As I'm certain you have noticed, it's the comments that make this a fun place. I'm just kicking off the conversation .

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:50 PM (As86G)

319 I'll say one thing. I got a lot of work to do when I get to the mome. I got the one rifle thats never been fired, new scope, etc. I'll have to zero it, check the scope alignment, etc. I'll probably have to bring some tools, like torx bit sockets, my inch pound torque wrench, etc. That sucker is going to need some range time.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:51 PM (snZF9)

320 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at September 21, 2025 09:48 PM (v23vE)
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Thanks S'puppy!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:51 PM (As86G)

321 Because we have *lots* of bacon at the TX MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 21, 2025 09:48 PM (ULPxl)

Well...that's the rumor.

Some people don't rate the bacon...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 21, 2025 09:52 PM (n9ltV)

322 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:51 PM (snZF9)
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We can help with all of that!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:53 PM (As86G)

323 Gunslinger, as Oddbob said, your choice of reloading equipment depends on your shooting habits. High volume, competitive handgunner (even at a recreational level) - you might consider a progressive press. Otherwise, turret, single-stage presses will be fine. I have a Lee 4-hole turret press (convertible to single stage in 5 seconds for heavy/rifle brass work) that easily keeps me supplied in 7 calibers. Start with your volume, and type, of shooting. Go from there.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:53 PM (U/Byj)

324 So, where do I fly in? Stay? Recover from excessive bourbon and cigars, etc.?
I need some encouragement here. Can Y’all help?
Posted by: Gunslinger at September 21, 2025 09:19 PM (7hdjp)

As of this moment, I am planning to drive from Apache Junction, AZ, to Corsicana on the 15th - 16th. I have a room booked at Motel 6 in Corsicana, with 2 beds. My expected travel partner is unable to make it, so the second bed in the room is currently not allocated. I am hoping that Moron lurker Osprey, who lives in Mesa, will be able to join me, but at last report he is stuck with Jury duty for that time period. In the event that he can reschedule jury duty, he has first dibs on the extra bed if he wants it. If he's stuck with jury service, it's up for grabs. But the road trip from AJ to Corsicana is available in any case. Lots of room in the old Suburban.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2025 09:53 PM (hA1Nw)

325 *Weasel katana has entered the chat*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2025 08:25 PM (Wnv9h)

Also good for fending off home intruders.

https://tinyurl.com/yffjrvw8

Posted by: haffhowershower at September 21, 2025 09:54 PM (144I4)

326 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 21, 2025 09:52 PM (n9ltV)
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We now deliver to the handgun range!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:54 PM (As86G)

327 And Berserker I'm envious, a 1917 has long been one of the only milsurps I still lust after (possibly because I already reload 30-06). And they're not available at the price you paid, ahemm.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:54 PM (U/Byj)

328 Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:53 PM (As86G)

Do you know how to zero a rifle?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 21, 2025 09:54 PM (n9ltV)

329 >>> 321 Because we have *lots* of bacon at the TX MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 21, 2025 09:48 PM (ULPxl)

Well...that's the rumor.

Some people don't rate the bacon...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 21, 2025 09:52 PM (n9ltV)

Do you need help convincing Pete Bog to hold the sous vide wand for a bit while you chase down the Bacon Wench?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 21, 2025 09:55 PM (ULPxl)

330 Weasel let me add my thanks for the thread. An institution.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:55 PM (U/Byj)

331 Well...that's the rumor.

Some people don't rate the bacon...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo [Flying the American Flag!] at September 21, 2025 09:52 PM
Yo, CBD! I really enjoyed the Mark Helprin story. Thanks.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2025 09:55 PM (LHPAg)

332 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:51 PM (snZF9)
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We can help with all of that!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:53 PM (As86G)

A spotter really so I don't piss away a ton of ammo lol. Its been bore sighted, but that might just you on paper.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:55 PM (snZF9)

333 Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2025 09:55 PM (U/Byj)
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Thank YOU for all of your contributions!!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:56 PM (As86G)

334 uh..might just get you on paper.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:56 PM (snZF9)

335 Reloading is a means for me to load very specific rounds to improve my accuracy. Mainly .308s. Adjustments are often very small and significant. It isn't really less expensive than over-the-counter, but in addition to better ammo, I get to spend time doing a very concise activity which relaxes me in my well past 29 age!

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 09:57 PM (ha1wR)

336 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:55 PM (snZF9)
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We will have people ready to spot for you on the rifle range!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 09:57 PM (As86G)

337 Reloading is a means for me to load very specific rounds to improve my accuracy. Mainly .308s. Adjustments are often very small and significant. It isn't really less expensive than over-the-counter, but in addition to better ammo, I get to spend time doing a very concise activity which relaxes me in my well past 29 age!

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 09:57 PM (ha1wR)

When I was reloading I didn't save money, I just shot more. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 09:58 PM (snZF9)

338 Please take care of your little buddy and his broken dew claw. That must have been awfully painful.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 21, 2025 09:58 PM (mjEur)

339 By the way, i heard that vincent price was really a class act. It didn't matter if it was a big production or small.He worked well with everybody and made made life easy

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 21, 2025 10:00 PM (mjEur)

340 When I was reloading I didn't save money, I just shot more. lol

For smaller calibers, that was true for me, too. But for the "big" rounds, I get about 25 down range and begin to flinch. I'm not a very big man, so limits exist.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 10:00 PM (ha1wR)

341 Please take care of your little buddy and his broken dew claw. That must have been awfully painful.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at September 21, 2025 09:58 PM (mjEur)
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Absolutely. As soon as I realized it I took him to the emergency vet and they fixed him right up. Thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2025 10:02 PM (As86G)

342 Ont up

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2025 10:02 PM (jddXn)

343 For smaller calibers, that was true for me, too. But for the "big" rounds, I get about 25 down range and begin to flinch. I'm not a very big man, so limits exist.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at September 21, 2025 10:00 PM (ha1wR)

I can't believe the price of the big rounds. 308 and 30.06 are almost a dollar per around. I might have to reload again.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2025 10:02 PM (snZF9)

344 Now that we're back home in Texas I would really love to attend my first TexMoMe. My father-in-law has an incredible collection of some beautiful pieces that he's passing along to us. Some from Texas Rangers that have a history and should go to a museum. I may need some help going through all of it.

Unfortunately he is in the final phase of his battle with cancer - back home with hospice care, keeping him comfortable with morphine as his time runs down. It's the best version of what is still possible. His friends are making their way over to say goodbye, his family is at peace with it feeling as if they did everything they could. But he's likely to pass within a week or two. And it just wouldn't be appropriate for me to travel during the first stages of morning. So mark me for next year

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 21, 2025 10:32 PM (ciYHQ)

345 Funny story, part of his collection left to us will be my own AR-15 which I've nicknamed Nemesis (Clegane vouce: of course you named your sword SMH)

Backstory: fresh out of the Marine Corps, just started dating his daughter and my future wife. He's former Army Col, border patrol agent, detective for local PD. Doesn't say much, doesn't like talkers, hard to get a read on, puts the C on curmugion. Marine Corps Infantry? Was only enough to get me through the front door. But sweetheart says we're invited to go shoot at the range tomorrow. I smile ear to ear. I'm Chuck Liddel shadow boxing in the red corner. My moment has come. Its my time now...

(fade out)

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 21, 2025 10:46 PM (ciYHQ)

346 next morning on the range he hands me an AR-15. It's not my baby, not the M16A2 but its damn close. They weight and feel is like the familiar embrace of a lover. Back in boot camp when we first drew our weapons from the Armory it felt so awkward and heavy. By the time I got out 6 years later it was like an extension of my arm. Feels good to hold it again, even the civilian model.

I do my safety checks, coil my sling and prepare to shoot from the standing position. Bit of a bold move, its the least stable position and I didn't BZO but Im a good shooter, qualified expert every year, my average is around 236. Not worthy of sniper school (248 out of 250) but nothing to sneeze at. ...aim small miss small...visions of him introducing me around as his future son-in-law and top shooter....breathe relax aim CRACK!...smug coolness.. "hmmm no impact no idea"

WHAT? no panic, this has happened before. I must have hit the target dead center, shot hole must have got lost in all the re-tape. Quit fcking around and focus...CRACK.. "sorry no impact no idea". Future wife, bless her "try my 9mm for a minute? Something seems off" which I realized would be a better end than missing paper 3 tim

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 21, 2025 11:10 PM (ciYHQ)

347 I swear I saw him grin. Did he play with the sights as insurance to keep me off balance and less confident? I would have LOL.

So to this day I have looked at that AR sideways. Soon I'll test that baby to destruction and figure what the hell happened that day

Posted by: Fenrisulven at September 21, 2025 11:14 PM (ciYHQ)

348 Attempted Nic Update

Posted by: ShainS -- FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT EVERY MOMENT ... For Charlie Kirk ... EVERY MINUTE EVERY DAY at September 22, 2025 04:38 AM (XcJSo)

349 Went out and practiced today. First time I've been guilt-free reading the Gun Thread for awhile. Feels good. Thanks, Gun Thread!

Posted by: Joe at September 22, 2025 06:38 PM (9nadL)

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