FCC Head Brenden Carr: Either The View Is a Bona Fide "News" Program, Or Else the Disney Groomer Network Will Have to Provide Equal Time to Republicans

Just because the law hasn't been enforced for a while doesn't mean it's not the law.

What would a "bona fide" news program look like? I don't know, but I imagine it would require editors who verify "facts" and would not allow Joy Behar and Sonny Hostin and Ana Navarro to just repeat whatever nonsense they saw on BlueSky three minutes before air.

Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr questioned on Thursday whether ABC's "The View" should be subject to review from the agency, making the daytime talk show Carr's latest target in his scrutiny of television programs that have been critical of President Donald Trump.
In an appearance on conservative commentator Scott Jenning's podcast, Carr said he wondered whether "The View" qualified as a "bona fide" news program, a program discussing current events.
If the show did not qualify, Carr said, the program would have to obey the FCC's equal time rule -- which requires broadcast stations to give equal airtime and access to competing political candidates.

"I think it's worthwhile to have the FCC look into whether 'The View,' and some of these other programs that you have, still qualify as bona fide news programs and therefore are exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place," he said in the interview.
The FCC head has long targeted the ABC daytime program. But his criticism -- and a hint that the agency may take action against the show -- takes on new relevance after Carr threatened ABC and its local affiliates on Wednesday to act against Jimmy Kimmel's late-night program following his comments about the death of Charlie Kirk.
ABC suspended Kimmel hours later. A spokesperson for "The View" did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mollie and Mark Hemingway made this point: The federal government really does have a statutory regulatory power over broadcast networks. The airwaves are regulated by the government because we can't just have six stations all attempting to broadcast on the same frequency in the same area, or else they'd all interfere with each other. So the federal government assigns these valuable spectrum rights to companies, but with restrictions and requirements. One is equal time, and Brenden Carr says he's going to enforce that requirement.

You know what the government has no control over? No statutory power to regulate?

The internet and cable, which are exactly the mediums that Obama and then Biden asserted power to censor.

Why didn't they also censor the broadcast networks, which they had the power to regulate?

Easy: They didn't have to. The broadcast networks were the pinnacle of liberal media power. They needed no federal "jawboning" to push the left-wing line.

It was the internet and cable where dissident wildcat media operations were blooming, and so that's where Obama and Biden declared a wholly-extralegal power to control.

Ed Morrissey wrote about this:

In this argument, Carr makes a very important distinction about jurisdiction. The FCC issues licenses for broadcasters only pursuant to the Communications Act of 1934 and other legislation, ie, those whose signal goes out over the public airwaves. As Carr notes (and as I noted briefly last night), the FCC does not have jurisdiction over cable channels such as Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC, or others. The FCC has absolutely nothing to do with online outlets either, nor newspapers. This is a key difference between the FCC and OfCom, which polices all media in the UK -- and is politically corrupt, to boot.
Even so, why does Congress invest the FCC with the authority to terminate licenses for content or actions they consider to be "not in the public interest"? To understand that, one has to understand the nature of broadcasting. In the earliest days of radio, operators would "step on" each other's broadcasts by using the same or close-by frequencies, ramp up power, and attempt to drive competitors into collapse by literally blocking their signals. Congress put an end to it by declaring the commercial broadcast spectrums to be a federal jurisdiction and to be public property.
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The FCC has mainly let its foot ease off that pedal in recent years, as Carr notes. Why? Most of the offensive material they would normally police has moved to cable or the Internet. The irony of this is that the FCC has largely stood down while the Biden administration essentially created its own OfCom [the shithole country Britain's all-purpose censorship operation] at the State Department and HHS, funding "misinformation" policing that targeted mainly the online and cable-channel markets. The federal government created censorship regimes on platforms where they had no jurisdiction, while allowing broadcasters to exploit government-provided monopolies with carte blanche on blatantly false content with clear partisan and malicious intent.
Now, one can argue that the FCC really should use a more laissez-faire approach to enforcing the "public interest" clause. However, one can't argue that the authority doesn't exist and hasn't been enforced in the past.

The anti-free-speech left is now pretending to be pro-free-speech, despite having cancelled or economically boycotted (or straight-up assassinated) every speaker on the right for at least 12 years. None of the latter-day Free Speech Absolutists said anything about the firing of Roseanne Barr or Gina Carano. Even now as they fulminate about the real Free Speech Martyr Jimmy Kimmel -- he lost a show, and that's terrible, and Charlie Kirk lost his life, which apparently isn't really something to be bothered about -- they don't even say, retrospectively, "Looking back, it appears the intolerance shown to Roseanne Barr and Gina Carano was also wrong."

No, they're sticking to their claim that of course conservative speech can be punished, because it's deplorable, but leftwing assassination-bait speech cannot be, because left-wingers are aristocrats with far more rights and privileges than the peons and serfs.

On that, Roseanne Barr made some news. I think. At least I never heard this before.

She says that she knows who is responsible for her cancellation -- Barack and Michele Obama, who she said both called ABC to demand her firing.

pic.twitter.com/BxYGAyMH83
— LivePDDave 🇺🇸 (@LivePDDave1) September 18, 2025

On the heels of @ABCNetwork canceling #JimmyKimmelLive , comedian Roseanne Barr has offered to fill in for Jimmy. Best joke ever, Roseanne, well played. For those of you who don't remember, Rosie was fired for telling a joke that Obama didn't like. pic.twitter.com/8QUxPpp3zi
— Mister Sugar (@ScottWi92107364) September 18, 2025

🔥Remember when Barack & Michelle PERSONALLY got Roseanne fired from her own ABC show..THEY CALLED ABC UP…then ABC killed her off and aired the show she created without her? So far Jimmy Kimmel has only been SUSPENDED..and Trump didn’t call them up personally like the Obamas.… pic.twitter.com/Uno753gmUi
— Johnny St.Pete (@JohnMcCloy) September 18, 2025

Now, Obama was technically a former president when he used his power to compel the firing of Roseanne, but who are we kidding? At least half of the federal bureaucracy remained loyal to him as if he were the serving president. He was letting them know the Democrat Party was demanding this firing, and that there would be consequences for non-compliance with the dictator's commands.

Mary Katherine Ham has a point: People are saying Kimmel's dangerous Russian disinformation was "just a joke."

No, it wasn't.

Mary Katharine Ham
@mkhammer
This is a smaller quibble in this discussion but it's bugging me. The assertion isn't a joke! I'm not being cute and saying it wasn't funny. It just wasn't even attempting to be a joke. The goof on Trump and construction was a joke. The first part is just a false statement.

Yes, exactly. Every late-night "joke" has the same structure: First you introduce the fact you're going to make a joke about, then you tell the joke.

Standard late-night joke structure:

Yesterday Ted Kennedy had lunch with his staffers (true, factual premise)...

... police divers recovered the bodies of the staffers from the river. (the joke, the fake made-up part)

That's a terrible joke, I know, but I'm just showing the set-up/punchline format. In late-night "comedy," the set-up is the true thing based on the day's events. The second thing is the made-up, fictitious joke. (Or "joke," in Kimmel's case.)

Kimmel wasn't telling a "joke" in his set-up. He was relaying the Fact set the coming joke would riff on. And the "Fact" he was pushing was the same "fact" the left had spent the entire week pushing: that a right-winger, possibly a "groyper," had murdered Charlie Kirk, but the right is running a False Flag operation to blame it on the left.

By the way, NPR is still pushing this lie.

the communist murder-enthusiasts at @NPR are pushing a new "rule:" Unless a killer writes extensively in favor of all 22 planks of today's far left, you can't call him far left. You have to say he's something else, like maybe "a conflicted far right extremist" or something. https://t.co/F6ZLtDA0ZC
— The Reaping Phase (@AceofSpadesHQ) September 19, 2025

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1 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at September 19, 2025 01:11 PM (rbKZ6)

2 Where will we get five smelly despicable harridans.

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:11 PM (ZW9XP)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

4 Judge tosses Trump's $15B defamation suit against New York Times, Penguin Random House

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Court didn't require much briefing, I guess.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:13 PM (L/fGl)

5 Just because the law hasn't been enforced for a while doesn't mean it's not the law.

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That this is even used as a defense (it is) is ridiculous.

"Old laws don't count."

Yes, they do. If not, repeal them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

6 I NOODed...

Posted by: Moonbeam at September 19, 2025 01:14 PM (rbKZ6)

7 Odds they try the Madcow Defense?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 19, 2025 01:14 PM (ULPxl)

8 Willowed:

Our financial advisor has been almost begging us to stop adding to our cash reserves for 2 years.

I think we could survive at least six months if we both lost our jobs right now. Might be more now that we don't have car payments.

Finally, we are adding to our brokerage account.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
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You might be very surprised how many people with outward wealth -- exotic cars, fancy houses, etc -- are very deep in debt and living way beyond their means
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:03 PM (iFTx/)

It's amazing to me how many people in my area are "house poor".

Between owning a big ole snazzy house and two big ole snazzy cars and at least two big ole fancy vacation per year, they literally have no more money.

Thank God for credit cards, amirite?

Sheesh.

I was shocked when I ran the demographics for this area when I was setting up muh business here.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (iJfKG)

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Yeah, if The View is going to just be a re-broadcast of CNN but with an APPLAUSE light & an audience, then it's a "news" program.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (/ZFN7)

10 the communist murder-enthusiasts at @NPR are pushing a new "rule:" Unless a killer writes extensively in favor of all 22 planks of today's far left, you can't call him far left. You have to say he's something else, like maybe "a conflicted far right extremist" or something. https://t.co/F6ZLtDA0ZC

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So, as long as I disagree with the GOP's open borders policy from 2006, I'm not considered far right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

11 It's still remarkable to me how much more gracefully Roseanne aged than a lot of other celebrities.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (UnA8+)

12 there was a commenter who went by Media Delenda Est

I think it's finally coming true

Posted by: kallisto at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (dCxaZ)

13 Hamboning > jawboning

Posted by: Move to the rhythm at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (TbWk/)

14 7 Odds they try the Madcow Defense?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 19, 2025 01:14 PM (ULPxl)

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She can do that on cable to deflect from lawsuits about her accuracy in reporting.

The View can't do that on broadcast, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

15 Jimmy Kimmel joked...nah didn't even bother to make it sound like a joke .. that unvaccinated people should just be allowed to die.

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (YwEeS)

16 I bet it all on Blade and lost. How could this happen to me?

Posted by: Corona_Exile at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (qHgX8)

17 I don’t care whether the leftists are hypocrites about free speech or not. I’m happy that they think they’re getting beat up because our side is mean.

Maybe it will be the first step on the road of them becoming afraid of us, which would be a good thing.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (jbnUc)

18 The irony of this is that the FCC has largely stood down while the Biden administration essentially created its own OfCom [the shithole country Britain's all-purpose censorship operation] at the State Department and HHS, funding "misinformation" policing that targeted mainly the online and cable-channel markets.

*squirts*

-- - - - - Nina Jankowicz

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)

19 Both sides are repped on the View. The anti-Trump left and the anti-Trump right!
-The View

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (Dv3i1)

20 Wow, its like Trump and co have focused on why the left always wins and are actually fighting fire with fire now

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (sKqQm)

21 It's true.

Standard late night host:

Trump met with a German minister yesterday.

Instead of Guten Morgen, Trump greeted him with Putin Morgen.

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:17 PM (ZW9XP)

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Because that's all The View & these late night shows are: CNN + Applause light + Audience.

Add "clapter" to msnbc's Morning Joe and you get The View.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 19, 2025 01:17 PM (/ZFN7)

23 These retards are always saying smug shit like "Well, the Second Amendment only applies to flintlocks, yadda-yadda-yadda".

If that's the case, the First Amendment only applies to hand-cranked printing presses.

Right?

In any case, under that standard you'd be allowed to own a 74 gun ship of the line, capable of flattening an entire coastal town.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:17 PM (qpyNK)

24 Hallowed Be Thy Name

https://youtu.be/wWmv1CYzeg8

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:17 PM (i24o9)

25 20 Wow, its like Trump and co have focused on why the left always wins and are actually fighting fire with fire now
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (sKqQm)

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"Holding the left to the balanced rule of law is unfair because it might help me in the next election."
-W

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

26 16 I bet it all on Blade and lost. How could this happen to me?
Posted by: Corona_Exile
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He threw the game just like Bobby Riggs did.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (WDjG6)

27 I think this "equal time" requirement is stupid, probably unconstitutionally vague, and a relic from an ancient, obsolete world.

But please, Mr. Carr: Use the ETR to crush these slimy ascariasis dickholes to the bottom of the septic tank listed in the Guinness record book as the oldest and nastiest. Please.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

28 Don't want to sound like a concern troll, so I'll just shut my pie hole.

Posted by: Max Power at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (Hucnr)

29 I think worse than the MAGA killer "joke" was the one he did the day before saying Trump didn't look too upset over Kirks death.. He acted like a 4 year old who just lost his goldfish...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (VE6XX)

30 Wow, its like Trump and co have focused on why the left always wins and are actually fighting fire with fire now
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (sKqQm)

This is just plain boorish and unacceptable, not spreading the other cheek as has been our custom!

Posted by: The GOPe, sodomy enthusiasts at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (TbWk/)

31 Jimmy Kimmel fired one of long time staffers for opposing the clot shot.

Disney firing him for endorsing murder seems rather like karma...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (sKqQm)

32 Unless a killer writes extensively in favor of all 22 planks of today's far left, you can't call him far left.

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Marx was the only true Marxist.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (1Nv0l)

33 No matter how much you hate the media it’s only 10% as much as you should hate the media.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (qM1j6)

34 If Obama had a son, would it be Jimmy Kimmel?

Posted by: commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (9SIre)

35 "Holding the left to the balanced rule of law is unfair because it might help me in the next election."
-W
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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You reminded me of why I came to loathe GWB as president. And his Bushies indicate post hoc that the rot in that administration was even greater than we knew at the time.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:19 PM (WDjG6)

36 I'd bet that if ABC started airing an "anti" View, a show with the exact opposite worldview, the ratings for that show would be a lot higher.

Posted by: Toad-0 at September 19, 2025 01:19 PM (HW7qV)

37 15 Jimmy Kimmel joked...nah didn't even bother to make it sound like a joke .. that unvaccinated people should just be allowed to die.
Posted by: steevy

Whooooooo!!! Haahhaahahahahahah! *loud applause*
- Kimmel's sicko studio audience

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 01:19 PM (Dv3i1)

38 Arrrrrrr me hearties........It be talk like a pirate dayeeee.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:19 PM (Zz0t1)

39 Yeah yeah yeah whatever.
When do we get back to tax cuts for billionaires?
- GOP

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:19 PM (qM1j6)

40 He threw the game just like Bobby Riggs did.

Why don't you grow some hair?

Posted by: James McEnroe at September 19, 2025 01:19 PM (/JT24)

41 27 I think this "equal time" requirement is stupid, probably unconstitutionally vague, and a relic from an ancient, obsolete world.

But please, Mr. Carr: Use the ETR to crush these slimy ascariasis dickholes to the bottom of the septic tank listed in the Guinness record book as the oldest and nastiest. Please.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (iFTx/)

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If equal time is unconstitutional, then the FCC is unconstitutional and the airwaves should be a Wild Wild West of whoever wants it and has the most antenna power wins.

Which could be fun. I'm not entirely opposed to it.

But, until the Communications Act of 1933 is repealed, it is good governance to use it equally to make sure that no broadcaster unfairly benefits either party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

42 communist murder-enthusiasts at @NPR are pushing a new "rule:" Unless a killer writes extensively in favor of all 22 planks of today's far left, you can't call him far left. You have to say he's something else, like maybe "a conflicted far right extremist" or something. https://t.co/F6ZLtDA0ZC

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)

And they're confused why they lost their Sugar Daddy?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:20 PM (i24o9)

43 If Obama had a son, would it be Jimmy Kimmel?
Posted by: commissar of plenty and festive little hats at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (9SIre)

Son.....bitch.....whatever fits.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

44 I bet it all on Blade and lost. How could this happen to me?
Posted by: Corona_Exile
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He threw the game just like Bobby Riggs did.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (WDjG6)
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"I said 'always bet on black,' ya fools!"

-- Wesley Snipes

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:20 PM (iFTx/)

45 I was shocked when I ran the demographics for this area when I was setting up muh business here.
Posted by: naturalfake
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Locust people.

Aesop's Ant and Grasshopper story comes to mind.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:20 PM (WDjG6)

46 Don't want to sound like a concern troll, so I'll just shut my pie hole.

Posted by: Max Power at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (Hucnr)

Very meta.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

47 8 It's amazing to me how many people in my area are "house poor".

Between owning a big ole snazzy house and two big ole snazzy cars and at least two big ole fancy vacation per year, they literally have no more money.

Thank God for credit cards, amirite?

Sheesh.

I was shocked when I ran the demographics for this area when I was setting up muh business here.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (iJfKG)

This is kind of a decision I'm in the process of making.

At my age, I'm kind of a "Now or Never" point of trying to acquire a house or not.

My father doesn't want me to it, he wants me to sit on the money that I have to do so (in some sort of safe low-yield account) for the rest of my life, and rent until I die (and has explicitly said as much).

I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (UnA8+)

48 Jimmy Kimmel joked...nah didn't even bother to make it sound like a joke .. that unvaccinated people should just be allowed to die.
Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2025 01:16 PM (YwEeS)

*waves*

I'm still here......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)

49 29 I think worse than the MAGA killer "joke" was the one he did the day before saying Trump didn't look too upset over Kirks death.. He acted like a 4 year old who just lost his goldfish...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (VE6XX)

Eh. While in poor taste it was still a joke.

Calling the furry fucker maga is an outright lie.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (qM1j6)

50 > Marx was the only true Marxist.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:18 PM (1Nv0l)

Checks out.

A lazy bum who was a self-proclaimed expert on the "working class", despite never working a single day in his miserable life. His kids would've starved if his butt-buddy Engels's dad hadn't taken pity on him.

Marx spent his days thinking Deep Thoughts and sexually abusing his servant girl, forcing her to give up his by-blow for adoption.

A real Hero of the Proletariat, that Marx.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (qpyNK)

51 Doesn't Navaro claim to BE a Republican?

That's part of the problem, and has long been part of the problem. The networks DO hire these squishy ninnies who like pants creases, and that's how they get around whatever FCC standard there is.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (/AIA+)

52 One quibble with Andrew Kerr: PBS isn't "playing" dumb, they are in fact dumb

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (lmTGO)

53 I actually know someone who got tickets to see The View in person.

she fits the Profile:
70+, retired teacher

Posted by: kallisto at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (dCxaZ)

54 I see leftists STILL trying to argue the Cock Curious Avenger was a rightwinger.

See, his family is conservative, his father is even a sheriff!

And it does make me recall their complaints about malinformation - that's information that's true but gives people the wrong idea about something.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (sKqQm)

55 We should call this harvest time the bay of pigs. Imma enjoying watching the once mighty scramble like rats. I can smell the fear from my office.

Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (AdHga)

56 If equal time is unconstitutional, then the FCC is unconstitutional and the airwaves should be a Wild Wild West of whoever wants it and has the most antenna power wins.

Which could be fun. I'm not entirely opposed to it.

But, until the Communications Act of 1933 is repealed, it is good governance to use it equally to make sure that no broadcaster unfairly benefits either party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Red Lion v. FCC had Scotus intoning that the Fairness Doctrine is constitutional.

"The Court justified this distinction based on the scarcity of broadcast frequencies, stating that broadcasters, as licensees of public resources, had a public interest obligation to provide a platform for opposing viewpoints, even if it meant compelling them to air responses to personal attacks." (decent Brave AI summary).

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (WDjG6)

57
That's part of the problem, and has long been part of the problem. The networks DO hire these squishy ninnies who like pants creases, and that's how they get around whatever FCC standard there is.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (/AIA+)

Easily debunked by releasing her voting record.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

58 47 My father doesn't want me to it, he wants me to sit on the money that I have to do so (in some sort of safe low-yield account) for the rest of my life, and rent until I die (and has explicitly said as much).

I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (UnA8+)

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Not financial advice:

80% in the QQQs. 10% in a put option in the QQQs. 10% in a call option in the QQQs.

In down markets, will lose less. In even markets, will lose slightly more because of the insurance (option) costs. In up markets...you get a shit ton more.

Can't live in it, though. And you need at least six figures to make it make financial sense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

59 *waves*

I'm still here......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (Zz0t1)

Remember in '22 that the Branch Covidians argued that the Coof was going to kill so many of us that another Republican would never be elected President?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (sKqQm)

60 Locust people.

Aesop's Ant and Grasshopper story comes to mind.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:20 PM (WDjG6)

Except in the real world the grasshopper shows back up with armed government agents to forcibly take the ants' winter stores for himself and get the ants thrown in prison for hate crimes.

Posted by: Hoarder and wrecker ants at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (TbWk/)

61 amazing to me how many people in my area are "house poor".

Between owning a big ole snazzy house and two big ole snazzy cars and at least two big ole fancy vacation per year, they literally have no more money.

Thank God for credit cards, amirite?

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And then these people will vote for politicians who promise to steal money from responsible people and give it to them. It’s essentially how social security will be “saved”. People who were prudent with their money and saved will be taxed up the ass to give money to people who blew their money on vacations and luxury cars.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (qM1j6)

62 One quibble with Andrew Kerr: PBS isn't "playing" dumb, they are in fact dumb

PBS may look like a bunch of idiots. PBS may act like a bunch of idiots. But don't let that fool you-- they really are idiots.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (/JT24)

63 I hate to say it, but it just looks like punching down.

These networks are bleeding money, their shows get tens of thousands of views.

Going after them makes them look like more than they are. Whether it's Kimmel or Oprah or any of the other idiots who talk on teevee.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (/AIA+)

64 I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (UnA8+)

I guess it depends on where you live and how committed you are to doing home maintenance, repairs, etc

location has to do with price and the rest is self-explanatory

Posted by: kallisto at September 19, 2025 01:24 PM (dCxaZ)

65 I'd love to see The Thomas Sowell Show, assuming that Professor Sowell was up for it (he's enjoying his well-earned retirement, from all I've heard -- still writing, but I don't know that he'd be interested in a daily gig).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:24 PM (qpyNK)

66 It's actually kind of funny watching the Dems knock each over trying to get the the microphone to accuse the Right of trying to take away their First Amendment... Mah Democracy !

Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:24 PM (VE6XX)

67 The producers at The View know what their liabilities are under FCC rules. There was a stretch of about a week this year where those idiot cows were having to read a legal note every day for defamatory, libelous or false statements. Whoopi herself got suspended for her bullshit about the holocaust so it's not like there's no precedent for getting suspended for saying things that piss people off or are just flat out lies. ABC should actually take Carr up on this, because if they put on an hour show with five hot conservative women it would crush ratings.

Posted by: the dandy at September 19, 2025 01:24 PM (8l8nW)

68 My father doesn't want me to it, he wants me to sit on the money that I have to do so (in some sort of safe low-yield account) for the rest of my life, and rent until I die (and has explicitly said as much).

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (UnA8+)

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Unfortunately every asset class is overvalued right now. There's nowhere to put your cash that isn't at high risk of a drawdown.

Problem is, inflation is eating it if you leave it in cash (although you should be able to get 4% in a money market fund, which is just about keeping pace).

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:25 PM (1Nv0l)

69 ......

I'm really not trying to offend anyone. You seem to have taken something I said earlier as offense. I'm sorry you did.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:10 PM (2TaYR)

I was talking about when you were banned a few months back. Whig was exceeding kind about you on a very human level and it's not the only time I've seen it. Plus he is a respected member in good standing so now by going after both TJM and whig, you have shown you will attack both the respected and the reviled alike.

It's all good. As an aside if you think you or anyone here besides flounder has the ability to offend me, you are gravely mistaken. So you may have me confused with someone else.

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:25 PM (ZW9XP)

70 58 80% in the QQQs. 10% in a put option in the QQQs. 10% in a call option in the QQQs.

In down markets, will lose less. In even markets, will lose slightly more because of the insurance (option) costs. In up markets...you get a shit ton more.

Can't live in it, though. And you need at least six figures to make it make financial sense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

Can't afford to take any risks.

I have a low-paying job (low paying enough that I've never been able to afford playing the stock market) and this was a one-time thing.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:25 PM (UnA8+)

71 Dems should cancel Disney, that is the only way.

Posted by: runner at September 19, 2025 01:25 PM (g47mK)

72 See, his family is conservative, his father is even a sheriff!
Posted by: 18-1
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Which is another lie, apparently the father is in construction or something. Not law enforcement. Some other relative was apparently.

Hindistan Times, "According to the Daily Mail, Matt Robinson operates a family-owned construction company. Early reports incorrectly identified him as a 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff’s Department."

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:26 PM (WDjG6)

73 That's part of the problem, and has long been part of the problem. The networks DO hire these squishy ninnies who like pants creases, and that's how they get around whatever FCC standard there is.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (/AIA+)

Easily debunked by releasing her voting record.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

I'm sure, but George Will is a "Republican." Didn't that greasy haired former House member get a network job too? Gaudy Tray or whatever his fairy name is?

In other words, it's all uniparty, all the time.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:26 PM (/AIA+)

74 Revelations

https://youtu.be/ng7Y1XZ6swk

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)

75 The thing is Trump is not really a Republican. Neither am I. I now consider myself a Trumpist.

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2025 01:26 PM (YwEeS)

76 > I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (UnA8+)

If you do decide to go that way... wait until you can pick up a bargain.

The housing market is long-overdue for a major crash, IMO.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (qpyNK)

77 75 The thing is Trump is not really a Republican. Neither am I. I now consider myself a Trumpist.
Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2025 01:26 PM (YwEeS)

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I...

am an illiterate asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

78 So by leftist logic every red state is 100% right wing and every blue state is 100% left wing. Why do we even bother with elections then?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (qM1j6)

79 If
- NBC News
- ABC News
- CBS News
- Fox News (both kinds)
- CNN News
- MSNBC News
- CNBC News
- Bloomberg News
- PBS News
are "bona fide news," then yeah, "The View" is "bona fide news," too. There's no daylight between them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (6bTRc)

80 65 I'd love to see The Thomas Sowell Show, assuming that Professor Sowell was up for it (he's enjoying his well-earned retirement, from all I've heard -- still writing, but I don't know that he'd be interested in a daily gig).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:24 PM (qpyNK)

Yeah, dude is, what, 95? I don’t think he’d be up for it, sadly.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (MrWte)

81 Finally, we are adding to our brokerage account.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 12:59 PM (GBKbO)
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You might be very surprised how many people with outward wealth -- exotic cars, fancy houses, etc -- are very deep in debt and living way beyond their means
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:03 PM (iFTx/)

It's amazing to me how many people in my area are "house poor".

Between owning a big ole snazzy house and two big ole snazzy cars and at least two big ole fancy vacation per year, they literally have no more money.

Thank God for credit cards, amirite?

Sheesh.

I was shocked when I ran the demographics for this area when I was setting up muh business here.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (iJfKG)
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An average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

82 Except in the real world the grasshopper shows back up with armed government agents to forcibly take the ants' winter stores for himself and get the ants thrown in prison for hate crimes.
Posted by: Hoarder and wrecker ants

I hate the Disney version of that story (/sarc). Troon Grasshoppers in Storm Trooper uniforms could only come from teh mind of Kathleen Kennedy.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (WDjG6)

83 TBH, renting can be a good financial decision in some cases.

Compare your rent versus mortgage + repair costs. And if you are an older person that latter can be significant since you may not be able to do many home repairs yourself...

In a market with a slow or flat growth in home prices renting could end up a better choice, though markets with significant growth generally make owning a house a better choice.

But still consider, are you better off getting whatever increase your home is generating in price minus your mortgage interest rate versus say investing in stocks or a small business?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (sKqQm)

84 So, as long as I disagree with the GOP's open borders policy from 2006, I'm not considered far right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Haven't you heard. The GOP has "evolved." I seem to recall when Speaker of the Florida House, Marco Rubio blocked immigration reform that would have increased law enforcement and made it more difficult for illegal aliens to secure work. But, he got smarter, or more ambitious.

Posted by: Orson at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (dIske)

85 The shooter was MAGA! Pay no attention to that transgendered furry boyfriend behind the curtain!

Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (qpyNK)

86 Mollie and Mark Hemingway made this point: The federal government really does have a statutory regulatory power over broadcast networks. The airwaves are regulated by the government because we can't just have six stations all attempting to broadcast on the same frequency in the same area, or else they'd all interfere with each other. So the federal government assigns these valuable spectrum rights to companies, but with restrictions and requirements. One is equal time, and Brenden Carr says he's going to enforce that requirement.
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It is also the basis of the "unbiased and non-partisan news service" fiction.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (6bTRc)

87 78 So by leftist logic every red state is 100% right wing and every blue state is 100% left wing. Why do we even bother with elections then?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (qM1j6)

A lot of people on the Right are of the same mindset.

Posted by: Cow Demon at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (MrWte)

88 I...

am an illiterate asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

Hey!

Posted by: Assholes everywhere at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (i24o9)

89 Not financial advice:

80% in the QQQs. 10% in a put option in the QQQs. 10% in a call option in the QQQs.

In down markets, will lose less. In even markets, will lose slightly more because of the insurance (option) costs. In up markets...you get a shit ton more.

Can't live in it, though. And you need at least six figures to make it make financial sense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:23 PM (GBKbO)

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Most of the time the markets go nowhere, so this is a losing strategy (your options expire worthless).

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (1Nv0l)

90 > But, he got smarter, or more ambitious.
Posted by: Orson at September 19, 2025 01:28 PM (dIske)

Me, I think that Little Marco's balls finally dropped.

Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (qpyNK)

91 The old joke (which is not really a joke) goes, What did the one judge say to the other judge before they went into the courtroom? Be just, and if you can't be just, be arbitrary.

Right now, I want justice in all things, but I'll settle for arbitrary. The Left wants neither.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (MZ+PY)

92 78 So by leftist logic every red state is 100% right wing and every blue state is 100% left wing. Why do we even bother with elections then?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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The left has Erdogan's idea about democracy in mind, "Democracy is like a bus--when it reaches the right stop, you get off."

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (WDjG6)

93
I...

am an illiterate asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

Fact.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

94
Nearly half the Democratic House caucus refuses to vote for a resolution on Charlie Kirk.
96 of 213 either voted against or Present.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (tgvbd)

95 Ain’t no housing crash coming. We had 5 years of insane inflation. Everything shot up in price from a Big Mac to cars to you name it. Price of beef more than doubled in this time span and it’s still increasing.

Why do people think housing should have somehow been immune from that? Will a Big Mac fall in price? Nope. So why do you think a house will?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (qM1j6)

96 It was the internet and cable where dissident wildcat media operations were blooming, and so that's where Obama and Biden declared a wholly-extralegal power to control.
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The internet was basically all of it. "Fox News Channel" is a punching bag for the left, but nobody who matters means it. They know that FNC is on the team and it's all part of the show.

It's the internet, particularly the social networks and blogs and, crucially, the big pay-to-play networks like AWS and the other hosting companies, that is the problem. Thus the jawbone.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (6bTRc)

97 89 Most of the time the markets go nowhere, so this is a losing strategy (your options expire worthless).
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (1Nv0l)

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It's about 1/5 years that they go nowhere.

And you're outpacing the fastest growers when they do go up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

98 93
I...

am an illiterate asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

Fact.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

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Ouch, baby. Very ouch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

99 Haven't you heard. The GOP has "evolved." I seem to recall when Speaker of the Florida House, Marco Rubio blocked immigration reform that would have increased law enforcement and made it more difficult for illegal aliens to secure work. But, he got smarter, or more ambitious.
Posted by: Orson
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Incentives matter--Zombie Milton Friedmann

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (WDjG6)

100 You might be very surprised how many people with outward wealth -- exotic cars, fancy houses, etc -- are very deep in debt and living way beyond their means
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:03 PM (iFTx/)

This came up in a Whatever podcast - a number of the women noted they had started dating guys with fancy clothes, luxury cars, and brand new phones only to find out Mr Big was actually Mr Big Credit Card debt.

Then one of their friend would mention her new boyfriend who wore old t-shirts/jeans, had an old Toyota, and an ancient phone was rich...just not spending any of it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (sKqQm)

101 It's still remarkable to me how much more gracefully Roseanne aged than a lot of other celebrities.
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:15 PM (UnA8+)

You wouldn't have thought that Madonna and Roseanne would swap spots on the hot or not chart 30 years ago.
It would have been, what's that word... Inconceivable.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (Hx0tZ)

102 > Yeah, dude is, what, 95? I don’t think he’d be up for it, sadly.
Posted by: Cow Demon at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (MrWte)

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: I want to live over on the alternate timeline where Thomas Sowell was the first black President of the United States.

Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (qpyNK)

103 >>You know what the government has no control over? No statutory power to regulate?

Which is why Obama did what he did privately and not for the public to see.

This is a big distinction I brought up yesterday -- Murphy v.Missouri was mostly about private coercion. A coercion that came with an implied threat that the gov. would come down on social media companies if they did not comply the the administration's *illegal* requests.

What Carr did, and Trump is doing, is saying "Hey, we are going to start enforcing the laws as written." this is a desirable thing. The left is complaining because they do not like the law, but they are claiming what Trump is doing to enforce it is bad when it is good, and not at all what Obama and Biden did.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (hyIQ8)

104 Fox News
- CNN News
- MSNBC News
- CNBC News
- Bloomberg News
- PBS News
are "bona fide news," then yeah, "The View" is "bona fide news," too. There's no daylight between them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (6bTRc)

This channels are not licensed so they don't have to abide by the FCC rules

Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (VE6XX)

105 ABC would be wise to have a conservative show just for the ratings. I volunteer to be paid millions to have a follow on show called Making Fun of the View to air right after them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (rvwwT)

106 103 What Carr did, and Trump is doing, is saying "Hey, we are going to start enforcing the laws as written." this is a desirable thing. The left is complaining because they do not like the law, but they are claiming what Trump is doing to enforce it is bad when it is good, and not at all what Obama and Biden did.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (hyIQ

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Let them narrative all they want.

And let Trump and Carr send a series of body blows to leftist organs over the airwaves that makes them unable to advocate for the other party anymore.

I know which side I'll be betting on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

107 am an illiterate asshole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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AI does some wonderful things nowadays for people like you. You might even be able to author a book or two.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (WDjG6)

108 Happy afternoon, friends.

Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (p4NUW)

109 > Ain’t no housing crash coming.

Sure. And the price of tulip bulbs and Beanie Babies will never go down.

It always happens. Always. And we're way overdue.

Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (qpyNK)

110 I was talking about when you were banned a few months back. Whig was exceeding kind about you on a very human level and it's not the only time I've seen it. Plus he is a respected member in good standing so now by going after both TJM and whig, you have shown you will attack both the respected and the reviled alike.

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:25 PM (ZW9XP)
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So ... whig is respected and TJM is reviled?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

111 76 If you do decide to go that way... wait until you can pick up a bargain.

The housing market is long-overdue for a major crash, IMO.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (qpyNK)

I have about 140 days left to decide where to put it.

Mostly, I just don't want it locked up for 5-10 years if I do decide I want to put it towards a house.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (UnA8+)

112 105 ABC would be wise to have a conservative show just for the ratings. I volunteer to be paid millions to have a follow on show called Making Fun of the View to air right after them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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Call it The Spew!!!!

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (WDjG6)

113 understand that, one has to understand the nature of broadcasting. In the earliest days of radio, operators would "step on" each other's broadcasts by using the same or close-by frequencies, ramp up power, and attempt to drive competitors into collapse by literally blocking their signals. Congress put an end to it by declaring the commercial broadcast spectrums to be a federal jurisdiction and to be public property.
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In modern terms, use "bandwidth" as the analogy.

The more limited the number of available "channels", the greater the regulatory interest. That's it in a nutshell.

Books and newspapers? Bandwidth - number of channels - is essentially unlimited. It is limited by capital and market size, but it is not inherently limited. There is therefore virtually no regulatory interest. Same with the internet. The number of "channels" is not naturally limited, and so there is virtually no regulatory interest.

Broadcast, though? Ah, there's the rub. Highly limited bandwidth, much greater regulatory interest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (6bTRc)

114 As noted, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has changed everything, forever.

We are going to impose our moral vision on these lunatics.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (XV/Pl)

115 110 So ... whig is respected and TJM is reviled?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

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I don't even know what this means.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

116
Happy afternoon, friends.
Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:32 PM (p4NUW)

__________

Did you bring brownies?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (tgvbd)

117 Fact.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

*awaits the joke*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (i24o9)

118 ======

Ouch, baby. Very ouch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

The truth can, at times, sting a bit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

119 The old joke (which is not really a joke) goes, What did the one judge say to the other judge before they went into the courtroom? Be just, and if you can't be just, be arbitrary.

Right now, I want justice in all things, but I'll settle for arbitrary. The Left wants neither.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (MZ+PY)

Reminds me of the show, Homicide. The captain was telling the story about some perp who did something terrible. May have killed a cop, I don't remember.

Anyhoo, the cops go into the jail, and give him whatfor. At some point, a captain or some other bigwig comes in, and the prisoner is shouting for mercy, saying "What about justice?"

To which the man with the brass on his collar says "You want justice? No, it's just us."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (XHNFq)

120 Why do people think housing should have somehow been immune from that? Will a Big Mac fall in price? Nope. So why do you think a house will?

I suspect their will be a deduction, not a crash.

Trump clamping down on immigration will lessen demand. But it won't return prices to anything like the pre-Bidenflation years.

And again, inflation is the destruction of the value of the dollar - it isn't that housing prices went up, its that the value of the dollars you were paying with went down.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (sKqQm)

121 >> I volunteer to be paid millions to have a follow on show called Making Fun of the View to air right after them.

Gutfeld may sue you for copyright infringement.

Posted by: the dandy at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (8l8nW)

122 The anti-free-speech left is now pretending to be pro-free-speech, despite having cancelled or economically boycotted (or straight-up assassinated) every speaker on the right for at least 12 years. None of the latter-day Free Speech Absolutists said anything about the firing of Roseanne Barr or Gina Carano. Even now as they fulminate about the real Free Speech Martyr Jimmy Kimmel -- he lost a show, and that's terrible, and Charlie Kirk lost his life, which apparently isn't really something to be bothered about -- they don't even say, retrospectively, "Looking back, it appears the intolerance shown to Roseanne Barr and Gina Carano was also wrong."
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Of course. It comes down to their moral code. It consists of "Me good. My power good. You bad. Your power bad."

It's a shitty code, but it's highly consistent.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (6bTRc)

123 114 As noted, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has changed everything, forever.

We are going to impose our moral vision on these lunatics.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (XV/Pl)

They are not gonna go down without a fight

Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:34 PM (VE6XX)

124 Yet another opportunity to see "Get This" in a headline.

Posted by: Person who likes Get This in the headlines at September 19, 2025 01:34 PM (6TrWP)

125 I like the whole idea of talk like a pirate day except I don't know any pirate lingo beside AAAARRRRRGG!! which is kind of generic and would be equally appropriate if I was just having a stroke.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2025 01:34 PM (3uBP9)

126 122 Of course. It comes down to their moral code. It consists of "Me good. My power good. You bad. Your power bad."

It's a shitty code, but it's highly consistent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (6bTRc)

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I live by this code now, by the way.

My side wins. Fuck the left.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:34 PM (GBKbO)

127 Now, Obama was technically a former president when he used his power to compel the firing of Roseanne, but who are we kidding? At least half of the federal bureaucracy remained loyal to him as if he were the serving president. He was letting them know the Democrat Party was demanding this firing, and that there would be consequences for non-compliance with the dictator's commands.
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I have no reason to disbelieve Roseanne, either. She is based AF and her GAS meter sits pegged on zero.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:34 PM (6bTRc)

128 125 I like the whole idea of talk like a pirate day except I don't know any pirate lingo beside AAAARRRRRGG!! which is kind of generic and would be equally appropriate if I was just having a stroke.
Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2025 01:34 PM (3uBP9)

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I am disinclined to acquiesce to this request to speak like a pirate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

129 The anti-free-speech left is now pretending to be pro-free-speech

When Cuck Schumer and friends demand the government drop charges against Rudy Guilani I'll start to listen to what they say...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (sKqQm)

130 So ... whig is respected and TJM is reviled?
Posted by: Elric The Blade

Got it backwards. My temperament is more like John Adams---

"Is that so? Well, if I'm the one to do it
They'll run their quill pens through it
I'm obnoxious and disliked, you know that, sir"

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (WDjG6)

131 There’s been some research done on the matter and the findings found people with money drive 5 year old Camrys bought with cash. People with no money drive brand new BMWs with $1200 payments.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (qM1j6)

132 Standard late-night joke structure:

Yesterday Ted Kennedy had lunch with his staffers (true, factual premise)...

... police divers recovered the bodies of the staffers from the river. (the joke, the fake made-up part)

That's a terrible joke, I know, but I'm just showing the set-up/punchline format. In late-night "comedy," the set-up is the true thing based on the day's events. The second thing is the made-up, fictitious joke. (Or "joke," in Kimmel's case.)
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Too bad you weren't writing for late night. That joke sucked, but it's a top-ten late night joke over the past decade or more.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (6bTRc)

133 Between owning a big ole snazzy house and two big ole snazzy cars and at least two big ole fancy vacation per year, they literally have no more money.

Saw a video a week or so back with several 55-65 year olds who woke up one day, looking forward to retirement, and discovered that they'd saved nothing at all.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (ExV1e)

134 The Democrats are stuck in a mode of wanting to appear STRONG against Trump.

I'd like to say he baited them into it but I think it's both circumstance *and* his bait.

The funniest thing of all is going to be when Trump wrests compassion right out from under them. 20 years of phony moral preaching will be gone before you can even blink.

So dumb. And they could have avoided it but they are so blinkered about needing to look Masculine and Powerful to win elections that when Trump puts his soft side on display like a strutting peacock they wont feel the bottom of the pit they thought they were digging for him until they slam face first into the bedrock.

Enjoy the show!

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (ZW9XP)

135 Home ownership is a very expensive proposition. You're paying for not just the mortgage but the homeowner's insurance, maintenance, repairs, cable/internet, higher heating and cooling bills, HOA fees if you can't avoid one, landscaping, lawn maintenance, appliance repair and replacement, the whole nine yards. Unfortunately a lot of people don't take all these costs into account when buying a house, so while on paper the mortgage to income seems reasonable, the overall outlay for the house is kicking their ass.

Posted by: Mortgage isn't your only overhead at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

136 Me, I think that Little Marco's balls finally dropped.
Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (qpyNK)
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I admire your optimism. However, I'll always believe that anyone who has served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is permanently damaged. Sort of like Herpes. That Committee was instrumental in propagating the Russia hoax. And, Rubio was smack dab in the middle of it.

Trump doesn't trust him either, or he wouldn't have set up an army of special envoys that bypass the State Department bureaucracy on hot zones and money maker regions for defense contractors.

Posted by: Orson at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (dIske)

137 Another point is that the network executives and lawyers know they have been getting away with murder for years.

They do not discuss it, but every industry knows their legal exposure when they are breaking unenforced laws. It is their fiduciary duty and could have big effect on their financials.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (hyIQ8)

138 Lumpy Fetterman crushes married-to-his-grandfather Macron.

https://is.gd/idIvg8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (L/fGl)

139 To regain mainstream viewers, Disney just ann8nced th latest addtion tp their fall lineup:

Bro-meo and Furry-ette
How the tender, forbidden romance of a MAGA chad and a trans furry femme-boy saved American from Future Hitler.

Posted by: zombie at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (pMi6S)

140 22 Acacia Avenue

https://youtu.be/1aZUSaauh1k

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (i24o9)

141 “ I will pelt you with filth, I will treat you with contempt and make you a spectacle.”

Nahum 3:6

Posted by: Marcus T at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (b97Gk)

142 the communist murder-enthusiasts at @NPR are pushing a new "rule:" Unless a killer writes extensively in favor of all 22 planks of today's far left, you can't call him far left. You have to say he's something else, like maybe "a conflicted far right extremist" or something.
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Defunding is nowhere near enough. Knock out the actual and important mega-subsidy: no more free spectrum. Bid on it like everyone else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (6bTRc)

143 As noted, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has changed everything, forever.

We are going to impose our moral vision on these lunatics.

The GOPe and professional GOPer talking class convinced everyone that imposing your moral views was bad...while allowing the left to impose theirs on us.

I guess enough people have woken up to this scam.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)

144 97 89 Most of the time the markets go nowhere, so this is a losing strategy (your options expire worthless).
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:29 PM (1Nv0l)

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It's about 1/5 years that they go nowhere.

And you're outpacing the fastest growers when they do go up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

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On a yearly scale, yes. On shorter timescales, volatility dominates. Long-dated LEAP options (over more than a year) are very expensive. There is no free lunch.

If you backtest your strategy you will find it makes less money on average than just buying the QQQs. It does reduce drawdowns, but it's an expensive way to do that. A mixture of bonds and QQQs (the tried and tested) would give a better return while also reducing drawdowns.

But if your horizon is sufficiently long, stick 100% in the Qs or similar index fund skewed to growth and tech.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (1Nv0l)

145 108 Happy afternoon, friends.
Posted by: Piper
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If you say Merry Afternoon instead, we get to day drink.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (WDjG6)

146 > It's a shitty code, but it's highly consistent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (6bTRc)

I think it's been decisively demonstrated that the "Tit for Tat" strategy is the optimal one in the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.

Cooperate until you get screwed over, then go scorched earth on the defector.

Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (qpyNK)

147 131 There’s been some research done on the matter and the findings found people with money drive 5 year old Camrys bought with cash. People with no money drive brand new BMWs with $1200 payments.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM

My mother calls that a vulgar display of credit.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 19, 2025 01:37 PM (Cg3Gl)

148 I am disinclined to acquiesce to this request to speak like a pirate.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

Then ye shall walk the plank and descend to Davy Jones' locker ye scurvy landlubbing scallywag!

Posted by: YARRRRRR!!! at September 19, 2025 01:37 PM (TbWk/)

149 143 The GOPe and professional GOPer talking class convinced everyone that imposing your moral views was bad...while allowing the left to impose theirs on us.

I guess enough people have woken up to this scam.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (sKqQm)

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"Remove your morals from the public square! They will lose us elections!"
-the GOP

"Impose your morals on the public square! We will win elections no matter what!"
-Democrats

"What the fuck is happening to me?"
-the public square

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

150 I don't even know what this means.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

Once upon a time you were viled, and then people stopped doing that.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:37 PM (MZ6Is)

151 Welcome to Germany 1939. These women who so proudly proclaim their opinions are letting themselves be silenced. Cowards. It just goes to show that rich people even have a price.

I doubt this is about their individual jobs as much as it’s about all the people the VIEW employs. Standing up doesn’t always just cost the one person.

The show is going to go down anyway, might as well go out swinging. How do these ladies want to be remembered

Wow, I am legit in SHOCK. Whoopi and Joy should be standing up for their fellow comedian. The silence is shocking me.

Who has quit their show and made a successful online show making millions? Spoiler: none. Tucker Carlson didn't quit. He was fired.

So we each give in to fascism and totalitarianism because it’s too dangerous not to? Isn’t that how 6 million Jews (and Poles and others) ended up in the gas chambers?

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (ycI94)

152 You might be very surprised how many people with outward wealth -- exotic cars, fancy houses, etc -- are very deep in debt and living way beyond their means
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:03 PM (iFTx/)

This came up in a Whatever podcast - a number of the women noted they had started dating guys with fancy clothes, luxury cars, and brand new phones only to find out Mr Big was actually Mr Big Credit Card debt.

Then one of their friend would mention her new boyfriend who wore old t-shirts/jeans, had an old Toyota, and an ancient phone was rich...just not spending any of it.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (sKqQm)
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Men respond to the incentives they are given, especially by women. If there are dating incentives to showing wealth and luxury -- and their undoubtedly are -- then men will strive to show it regardless whether it's real or not.

My fav story was this mostly-loser back in the day who ran in the fringes of my party circle. He had fancy business cards printed up in his fancy-sounding made-up name ("Christian" something) that made him look like a heavy hitter. He passed them out to girls as a hook. You may laugh, but it worked!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

153
The anti-free-speech left is now pretending to be pro-free-speech

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They don't see a contradiction. Every word from their noble lips is The Truth and must be protected, nay revered. Your subliterate gruntings are a threat to the world around us.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (tgvbd)

154 There are limits to free speech, yes, but they involve edge cases, like falsely shouting fire in a theater...
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No, there are not, you fucking lying scum.
This lie is always cited by the left as a Supreme Court precedent for a valid restriction on the 1st.

And the actual case says nothing of the sort--exactly the opposite:

It says that a law like forbidding yelling "fire" in a crowded theater would still be unconstitutional because it would 1) be overbroad and forbid even legitimate (or mistaken) warnings and
2) criminal and tort law are more than sufficient to cover false cries.

But it's a lie that will never die because the totalitarians will never stop trying to outlaw free speech.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (qHqHk)

155 To regain mainstream viewers, Disney just ann8nced th latest addtion tp their fall lineup:

Bro-meo and Furry-ette
How the tender, forbidden romance of a MAGA chad and a trans furry femme-boy saved American from Future Hitler.

Posted by: zombie at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (pMi6S)

Someone nailed it earlier with the reboot, Lady-boy and the Trans.

If Disney passes on this, I question their commitment to sexual deviancy, mental illness, and pedophilia.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (i24o9)

156 This channels are not licensed so they don't have to abide by the FCC rules
Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:31 PM (VE6XX)
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PBS is.

The others are not, but they are "news" and would very likely be considered in the decision as to whether "The View" is news, even though largely outside the regulatory purview of the FCC.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (6bTRc)

157 I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.
Posted by: XTC

I suggests finding a licensed, "fee only" financial advisor. "Fee only" means up-front fee for service, as opposed to taking commissions from stuffing you into their favored investments.

Alternatively, a good accountant that you trust explicitly could steer you in a good direction as well. But, again, trust explicitly.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (mlg/3)

158 Mary Jo Kopechne unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Evergreen at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (6TrWP)

159 Saw a video a week or so back with several 55-65 year olds who woke up one day, looking forward to retirement, and discovered that they'd saved nothing at all.
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They should sue those that are responsible for their predicament.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (Dv3i1)

160 151 So we each give in to fascism and totalitarianism because it’s too dangerous not to? Isn’t that how 6 million Jews (and Poles and others) ended up in the gas chambers?
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (ycI94)

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This is even-headed and well-versed in world history. So much so, that I have changed my entire worldview.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

161 If you say Merry Afternoon instead, we get to day drink.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (WDjG6)

Uh oh. Were we not supposed to be doing that?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

162 There’s been some research done on the matter and the findings found people with money drive 5 year old Camrys bought with cash. People with no money drive brand new BMWs with $1200 payments.

I drove my last car into the ground...but saved enough money for a new one.

I found the car I wanted and had some pretty hardball negotiations with the dealer. He finally relented on the price I was willing to pay figuring he would squeeze my on the loan and...nope. "Do you take a cashier's check?"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (sKqQm)

163 You can't believe his family! They're not experts!

Posted by: Axeman at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (nzwmT)

164 Marxist were be in power that's a life or death situation.
They'll tosh the dead in pipelines or leave the dead lying around so the elite could kill anybody for any reason.
Some view these leaders like cruel lying children.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (WHP6G)

165 Everything I know about Jimmy Kimmel I learned here.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (SXxzC)

166 Long term it’s damn near impossible to lose money owning real estate. Even accounting for all the costs of home ownership. Which is not really as bad as people make it out to be. I hear this all the time. But dude as a homeowner you have to buy a new water heater and replace the roof. Ok yeah but the roof is once every 30 years and the water heater is once every 15 years. It’s a small cost relatively speaking. And there’s a good chance you’ll move before you need either.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (qM1j6)

167 Didn't Michelle do the same with Tim Allen's show? She called up one of her besties at ABC and they cancelled their top rated comedy. Poof.

Posted by: Ktgreat at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (33LJY)

168 All I gotta say is Valerie Jarrett really does look like Helena Bonham Carter in Planet of the Apes.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (6ydKt)

169 Set up: Jazzy Crockett had Chuckie Schumer for dinner.

Punchline: Served him with fava beans and a nice Chianti!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (L/fGl)

170 1. Removing several million illegals from our country, which will make housing and food more affordable, and prevent fraudulent congressional districts.
2. Removing illegal funding for the left through NGOs, grants, and outright theft, which will help offset our debt and stop one party from illegally funding itself.
3. Insourcing production to the US, so we are not hostage to other countries.
4. Stopping spending on ridiculous boondoggles like EV, farm subsidies, windmill subsidies, and fake climate reports.
5.Getting rid of loathsome people on network television who lie to our faces

OK, number 5 isn't really number 5 on my priority list, in fact is isn't anywhere near high on the list, but it is kind of heartwarming.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (0U5gm)

171
An average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

This is frightening! I can’t imagine that level of stress. I am panicky over my business loan, which I am sure others who have a real business here would probably laugh at me if they knew what it was, but it’s really money to me! I would love to get it paid off by some miracle. Biden did me no favors.

Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (p4NUW)

172 I think it's been decisively demonstrated that the "Tit for Tat" strategy is the optimal one in the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.

Cooperate until you get screwed over, then go scorched earth on the defector.
Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (qpyNK)
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Yup. "An eye for an eye" does *not* leave the whole world blind. It leaves a small number blind, a much larger number half-blind and most see why they should not do things that result in their eyes being put out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (6bTRc)

173 161 If you say Merry Afternoon instead, we get to day drink.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (WDjG6)

Uh oh. Were we not supposed to be doing that?

You can't drink all day if you don't start early.

Posted by: Ancient Wisdom at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (/JT24)

174 So we each give in to fascism and totalitarianism because it’s too dangerous not to? Isn’t that how 6 million Jews (and Poles and others) ended up in the gas chambers?
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (ycI94)

Right.. Suspending a late night "comic" is equivalent to gassing millions of Jews

Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (VE6XX)

175 I admire your optimism. However, I'll always believe that anyone who has served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is permanently damaged. Sort of like Herpes. That Committee was instrumental in propagating the Russia hoax. And, Rubio was smack dab in the middle of it.

Trump doesn't trust him either, or he wouldn't have set up an army of special envoys that bypass the State Department bureaucracy on hot zones and money maker regions for defense contractors.
Posted by: Orson at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (dIske)

I think Marco is good at following orders.

Which is a very handy skill, but obviously, as history has shown, one must be careful who is giving the orders.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (MZ6Is)

176 Waxaan isku daynay inaan weerarno markab ay leeyihiin ciidamada badda Mareykanka, saaxiibkayna waxaan ka dhignay ceeryaamo cas.

Posted by: Talk Like a Somali Pirate at September 19, 2025 01:41 PM (dIske)

177 I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM

I'm a wee bit over 29 and I've been renting all of my adult life. It has no bearing whatsoever on my self-esteem. With all the money I've saved, I could buy myself a very nice home but I'm still not interested. The prices in my area are insane. Don't beat yourself up over it. If you're a good person, you're a success!

Posted by: Moonbeam at September 19, 2025 01:41 PM (rbKZ6)

178 Who has quit their show and made a successful online show making millions?

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Hey! Good question ! Who ??

Posted by: runner at September 19, 2025 01:41 PM (g47mK)

179 I do love watching the left unable to figure out how to respond to Trump and the resurgent right now.

Remember, for example, we need to ban guns because no one should have a weapon of war...except, uh, for the government which is run by...Orange Hitler...engaged in literal genocide against trannies and illegals.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:41 PM (sKqQm)

180 172 I think it's been decisively demonstrated that the "Tit for Tat" strategy is the optimal one in the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.

Cooperate until you get screwed over, then go scorched earth on the defector.
Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (qpyNK)
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Yup. "An eye for an eye" does *not* leave the whole world blind. It leaves a small number blind, a much larger number half-blind and most see why they should not do things that result in their eyes being put out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (6bTRc)

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The new analogy is now The Stick.

Two men. One begins to beat the other with a stick.

"You can't do it! It's against good principles!"

The beating continues.

"Stop! I ask for you to stop, begging you on principles that beating people with sticks is wrong!"

The beating continues.

The beatee takes the stick and becomes the beater. When should the one who was beaten stop? When the one who was beating begs for mercy for himself? Or much...much later?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

181 > They should sue those that are responsible for their predicament.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 01:38 PM (Dv3i1)

If you really want to piss them off, show them how much they'd have if the money that had been extorted from them via Social Security had been put into any investment, even a low-risk one.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (qpyNK)

182 And again, inflation is the destruction of the value of the dollar - it isn't that housing prices went up, its that the value of the dollars you were paying with went down.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:33 PM (sKqQm)

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And this is one of the risks of renting vs owning that people don't tend to talk about. With 30 year fixed rate mortgages you can refinance in any recession (when interest rates typically drop). Eventually you can get yourself a mortgage that's almost free in the sense that the value of your home is rising faster through inflation than you're paying in interest.

That's why no-one is moving right now, which in turn is why housing supply is so low. A lot of us a sitting on mortgages that are cheaper than inflation.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (1Nv0l)

183 Everything I know about Jimmy Kimmel I learned here.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (SXxzC)

The Liberty Daily has a link to a Man Show clip where Kimmel is doing obnoxious things behind a woman's back while she's not looking.

The link says "This is Jimmy Kimmel."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

184 Ok yeah but the roof is once every 30 years and the water heater is once every 15 years. It’s a small cost relatively speaking. And there’s a good chance you’ll move before you need either.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

I fully agree with your sentiments, but you obviously don't live in the south. A roof in 100 degree summers will barely last 15 years.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (0U5gm)

185 Damn. Look at the time. I need another drink.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (6TrWP)

186 An average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

This is frightening! I can’t imagine that level of stress. I am panicky over my business loan, which I am sure others who have a real business here would probably laugh at me if they knew what it was, but it’s really money to me! I would love to get it paid off by some miracle. Biden did me no favors.
Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (p4NUW)
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There's this thing called "Powerball." And no, it's not another one of Fani Willis' rentboys.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (iFTx/)

187 Why do people think housing should have somehow been immune from that? Will a Big Mac fall in price? Nope. So why do you think a house will?
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Maybe his dad had a house in Pacific Palisades?

Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (AdHga)

188
I think Alex Jones should sit at the table on the View.

Posted by: Speller at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (pSotA)

189 I saw where Geraldo was bitching at ICE that real men don't wear masks...so a few people on the internet found all the pictures of him wearing a mask for the Coof...

Bad look Jerry....bad look

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (sKqQm)

190 An average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
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I have a buddy. Extremely affluent, somewhat rich. He has a bona fide "black" card. No limit. At all. On anything. He bought a new car and put it on there for points.

He is *very* careful about debt management, after having made a lot of mistakes when younger. He will be very rich within a few years. In the good years, he has one of those incomes politicians like to talk about. But he spent about a decade being affluent and broke before he got serious about it.

I know many more people who are affluent, broke and not serious about it at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (6bTRc)

191 NPR is probably still running on money from the federal government (till Oct 1 new fiscal year) and they are still doing what got them cut off in the new fiscal year.

Posted by: SMOD at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (RHGPo)

192 With new cars it’s often cheaper to get a loan than pay cash. Especially with domestic brands. They’ll give $5k bonus cash to finance with them. Because the financing is where they make the real money not the sale. GM as the joke goes is a bank that makes cars on the side.

Take the $5k and then pay it off the loan next day.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (qM1j6)

193 > The beatee takes the stick and becomes the beater. When should the one who was beaten stop? When the one who was beating begs for mercy for himself? Or much...much later?
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When the stick breaks.

And not before.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (Q4IgG)

194 168 All I gotta say is Valerie Jarrett really does look like Helena Bonham Carter in Planet of the Apes.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (6ydKt)

She does and I didn't know she was black either, I thought she was Persian.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (Cg3Gl)

195
Perjury, libel, revealing state secrets, extortion, and inflammatory language subject to the Brandenburg test are, or ought to be, the few restrictions on free speech.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (tgvbd)

196 >>>The anti-free-speech left is now pretending to be pro-free-speech . . . . they don't even say, retrospectively, "Looking back, it appears the intolerance shown to Roseanne Barr and Gina Carano was also wrong."

I think that credits the mainstream left with a level of thought and introspection that I just don't think is realistic.

The NPC meme hits hard, because the bulk of the demo is just following the herd with whatever latest NPC programming has been released.

Any 30 second dialogue with a leftist will reveal this lack of depth of their consideration on whatever topic is discussed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (i24o9)

197 135 Home ownership is a very expensive proposition. You're paying for not just the mortgage but the homeowner's insurance, maintenance, repairs, cable/internet, higher heating and cooling bills, HOA fees if you can't avoid one, landscaping, lawn maintenance, appliance repair and replacement, the whole nine yards. Unfortunately a lot of people don't take all these costs into account when buying a house, so while on paper the mortgage to income seems reasonable, the overall outlay for the house is kicking their ass.
Posted by: Mortgage isn't your only overhead at September 19, 2025 01:35 PM (TbWk/)

Aside from certain repairs, already on the hook for the full slate of bills (and lawn maintenance) at the current place. It's a free-standing 2 BR house. And they keep raising the rent $50 a month every year.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (UnA8+)

198 This is even-headed and well-versed in world history. So much so, that I have changed my entire worldview.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

What if, get this, people you disagree with politically were just Nazis. Did you ever think of that?

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (ZW9XP)

199 Waxaan isku daynay inaan weerarno markab ay leeyihiin ciidamada badda Mareykanka, saaxiibkayna waxaan ka dhignay ceeryaamo cas.
Posted by: Talk Like a Somali Pirate

Burma Shave.

Actual sign progression on US 70 between Matador and Narcisso TX.

For reals.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (z9JLc)

200
She does and I didn't know she was black either, I thought she was Persian.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (Cg3Gl)

Me too....

Posted by: It's me donna at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (VE6XX)

201 I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.

Posted by: XTC
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I fully understand this, but I can assure you that the joys of home ownership are not always what they appear to be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a 70 year old house at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (XeU6L)

202 All I gotta say is Valerie Jarrett really does look like Helena Bonham Carter in Planet of the Apes.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (6ydKt)

HBC has had an interesting career. She started out as a proper British person, and I'm sure she knew she would get all sorts of Oscar nominations if she just kept doing that.

But somewhere along the way she decided to play the most despicable and/or ugly women she could, and it's been great for her staying power in an industry that generally chews up and spits out women her age.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (MZ6Is)

203 So far, I've heard about every excuse except the Earl Butz joke

Posted by: SMOD at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (RHGPo)

204 192 Take the $5k and then pay it off the loan next day.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (qM1j6)

Don't some dealers have an early-repayment penalty?

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (UnA8+)

205 198 This is even-headed and well-versed in world history. So much so, that I have changed my entire worldview.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

What if, get this, people you disagree with politically were just Nazis. Did you ever think of that?
Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (ZW9XP)

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People who advocate for public private partnerships to run business, socialized medicine, and roving gangs of hoodlums to keep the unwanted in line are Nazis?

I shan't believe it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (GBKbO)

206 If railing some tranny in a squirrel costume doesn’t put you squarely on the left, I don’t know what does.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (705BX)

207 That's why no-one is moving right now, which in turn is why housing supply is so low. A lot of us a sitting on mortgages that are cheaper than inflation.

If your mortgage rate is lower then say what a high yield saving account will give you, you have no reason to sell.

You've essentially been given free money for 30 years...

And you should be able to find investments that pay more then a high yield savings account.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (sKqQm)

208 I think it's been decisively demonstrated that the "Tit for Tat" strategy is the optimal one in the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.

Posted by: Communist Pundits at September 19, 2025 01:36 PM (qpyNK)

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I think it's "Tit for two Tats". Or was that "Two Tits for Tat"? Or "Two Tits and a Twat"?

I forgot what we were talking about.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (1Nv0l)

209 Remember, this all started because we had to ban Alex Jones.
"Why, he is a Nazi, white supremacist who spreads lies and hate and no right-thinking person should defend his right to speak!"

And there were a whole bunch of Pretendicons who joined in, either calling for or saying nothing against it.

And just a handful of us saying, "it doesn't stop with Jones--he's the test case and they'll come after every conservative next."

And those same Predendicons are writing "The Conservative Case for Supporting Jimmy Kimmel" right now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (qHqHk)

210 I viled Schumer yesterday and I reviled him today!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (L/fGl)

211 dissident wildcat media operations*

* pants optional

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (FhXTo)

212 "What the fuck is happening to me?"
-the public square
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Homeless people crapping and panhandling there, mentally ill stabbing people at random, illegals groping and harassing the womenfolk, and drug dealers running open markets and occasionally spraying bullets everywhere.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (WDjG6)

213 208 I think it's "Tit for two Tats". Or was that "Two Tits for Tat"? Or "Two Tits and a Twat"?

I forgot what we were talking about.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (1Nv0l)

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"The woman with two brains..."

"Three brains, Patrick."

"oh, yeah..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

214 Children of the Damned

https://youtu.be/jX-mnLN6fyo

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (i24o9)

215 11 It's still remarkable to me how much more gracefully Roseanne aged than a lot of other celebrities.

she really looks fantastic

Posted by: Black Orchid at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (FHttA)

216 If railing some tranny in a squirrel costume doesn’t put you squarely on the left, I don’t know what does.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (705BX)

Kimmel was implying that ALL white people that commit murder are Conservative Republicans.

He is a bigger asshole than TJM.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

217 > 168 All I gotta say is Valerie Jarrett really does look like Helena Bonham Carter in Planet of the Apes.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:39 PM (6ydKt)

For a moment I thought maybe you'd gone blind or had a major stroke or something, because HBC is Teh Hawt.

Then it occurred to me that she must've played one of the apes. Duh.

(in my defense, I haven't seen that movie, just the original PotA cycle).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (qpyNK)

218 I fully agree with your sentiments, but you obviously don't live in the south. A roof in 100 degree summers will barely last 15 years.

Posted by: Thomas Paine
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As of last week, I am on the 3rd roof (second for me), third water heater, and the A/C is going to go soon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a 70 year old house at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (XeU6L)

219 With new cars it’s often cheaper to get a loan than pay cash. Especially with domestic brands. They’ll give $5k bonus cash to finance with them. Because the financing is where they make the real money not the sale. GM as the joke goes is a bank that makes cars on the side.

Take the $5k and then pay it off the loan next day.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (qM1j6)
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This is why I financed the one new car I've ever bought. $1500 rebate got me to the price I wanted. I read the fine print on it *very* carefully. No early payment penalty (those are illegal for consumer debt in most places), but the rebate was subject to clawback if the loan was paid off prior to 90 days.

So I paid down the entire balance, less 2.25 months' worth of payments, on the first day the account became available, then set up auto-pay and let it roll off after the third month.

That $1500 rebate cost me something like $75 in interest. Easy math, but it *does* pay to read the fine print.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (6bTRc)

220 I think it's "Tit for two Tats". Or was that "Two Tits for Tat"? Or "Two Tits and a Twat"?

I forgot what we were talking about.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (1Nv0l)

Mmmmmmm........tits......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

221
Any 30 second dialogue with a leftist will reveal this lack of depth of their consideration on whatever topic is discussed.

The same people that argued 2 years ago that the government should aggressively ban hate speech are now arguing that it doesn't matter if their speech literally got someone murdered. I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (sKqQm)

222 Don't some dealers have an early-repayment penalty?
Posted by: XTC

The Paolo, how you say, notes that in his line of work, there is a penalty for early withdrawal.

Posted by: The Paolo at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (z9JLc)

223 An average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
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I have a buddy. Extremely affluent, somewhat rich. He has a bona fide "black" card. No limit. At all. On anything. He bought a new car and put it on there for points.

He is *very* careful about debt management, after having made a lot of mistakes when younger. He will be very rich within a few years. In the good years, he has one of those incomes politicians like to talk about. But he spent about a decade being affluent and broke before he got serious about it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (6bTRc)
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Debt is the destroyer of worlds. 99% of bankruptcies aren't because the person or business wasn't making money. In many cases, there's tons of income. But they're drowning in debt to the point where it's sucking up all the income.

There is "good" debt which is valuable and should be used (reasonable mortages, etc). But too much debt, or debt for the wrong things, will kill you.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

224 I think Alex Jones should sit at the table on the View.
Posted by: Speller at September 19, 2025 01:42 PM (pSotA)

They're making him pay $1.4 billion dollars for saying ONE stupid thing.

Don't you think he's already suffered enough???

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:47 PM (MZ6Is)

225 223 Debt is the destroyer of worlds. 99% of bankruptcies aren't because the person or business wasn't making money. In many cases, there's tons of income. But they're drowning in debt to the point where it's sucking up all the income.

There is "good" debt which is valuable and should be used (reasonable mortages, etc). But too much debt, or debt for the wrong things, will kill you.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

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Debt is a tool that allows for growth.

It's also addictive as fuck and can destroy you without mercy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

226 199 Waxaan isku daynay inaan weerarno markab ay leeyihiin ciidamada badda Mareykanka, saaxiibkayna waxaan ka dhignay ceeryaamo cas.
Posted by: Talk Like a Somali Pirate

Burma Shave.

Actual sign progression on US 70 between Matador and Narcisso TX.

For reals.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (z9JLc)
________________________

That's real Somali. Here's the translation.

"We tried to attack a US Navy ship, and our friend turned it into a red mist."

Posted by: Talk Like a Somali Pirate at September 19, 2025 01:47 PM (dIske)

227 171- This is frightening! I can’t imagine that level of stress. I am panicky over my business loan, which I am sure others who have a real business here would probably laugh at me if they knew what it was, but it’s really money to me! I would love to get it paid off by some miracle. Biden did me no favors.
Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM

One of the best days of my life was when I finished paying off all of my debts 25 years ago. I've been debt-free ever since. After that, all of my work bonuses were "found money" and I was able to max out my 401k for several years before I retired. I couldn't imagine carrying that much debt but I know there are people out there who do.

Posted by: Moonbeam at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (rbKZ6)

228 The beatee takes the stick and becomes the beater. When should the one who was beaten stop? When the one who was beating begs for mercy for himself? Or much...much later?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:41 PM (GBKbO)

--

When the morale improves.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (6ydKt)

229 I think it's "Tit for two Tats". Or was that "Two Tits for Tat"? Or "Two Tits and a Twat"?

I forgot what we were talking about.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:45 PM (1Nv0l)
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"Tit for two tats" usually works well, but if you are playing a game where the "tat" can be huge - like, say, a nuclear first strike (big scale) or being murdered (small scale) - then it's best not to play that way and not let the other player know he gets one free pass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (6bTRc)

230 average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

I got an Amex a few years ago as it had a 24 month intro 0% offer. Put about $30k on it. Then paid it off just before 24 months was over. Two year I interest free loan? Fuck yeah I’ll take it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (qM1j6)

231 >>> think it's been decisively demonstrated that the "Tit for Tat" strategy is the optimal one in the Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma.

Cooperate until you get screwed over, then go scorched earth on the defector.

Years ago Ace posted something about that and some research on strategies using various simulations and scenarios and I went down the rabbit hole reading.

The one thing I remember is that the optimal strategy is NOT to acquiesce when the instigating side changes. Because that just starts a back and forth where you are still just losing in steps.

The optimal strategy is to keep the pain up very, very far past the point when the other side sees their error, so far in fact that the other side loses all motivation but base survival, a scared animal that can be coerced and dominated. And even then, the loss/benefit ratio doesn't drop precipitously if you delay.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (3uBP9)

232 Okay, let's do this shit. 5 of the moronettes will have a daily discussion about current events and televise it! We won't bother having a permanent leftist kook on the panel. We can invite a leftist kook to be our guest. We will, of course, eviscerate the idiot. If the kook gets uppity, we turn it in to a pinata!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (2J/Lj)

233 he is a Nazi, white supremacist

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Robert Duvall was a dirty, stinking, sneaky Nazi!

https://is.gd/rI7w4P

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (L/fGl)

234 Alex Jones has been more accurate then the FNM.

Yes, he's said some crazy stuff, but compared to the Branch Covidians and BLM'ers on TV its mild.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (sKqQm)

235 "What the fuck is happening to me?"
-the public square
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Homeless people crapping and panhandling there, mentally ill stabbing people at random, illegals groping and harassing the womenfolk, and drug dealers running open markets and occasionally spraying bullets everywhere.

Posted by: whig
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Two weeks ago, on my way home from a Sunday afternoon church event, there was a topless gathering at the downtown square. Nothing says 'We're a nice family-friendly town' like a Sunday topless event

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a 70 year old house at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (XeU6L)

236 I got an Amex a few years ago as it had a 24 month intro 0% offer. Put about $30k on it. Then paid it off just before 24 months was over. Two year I interest free loan? Fuck yeah I’ll take it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (qM1j6)

I hope the $30,000 wasn't for Charm School.

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (ZW9XP)

237 Just a couple years ago the lunatic left was carping that people may have a right to speech, but they don't have right to a reach as justification for censoring without limit their political opponents. The lunatic left just found out their fake rule can be applied to one of their sacred cows. Jimmy Kimmel having his show canceled is not a suspension of free speech, after all, this was a private matter between the networks and the affiliates are we getting rid of a declining talent that was putting their businesses at risk. Suck on that sour sacred cow tit Leftists.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (aJQjq)

238 >>Alex Jones has been more accurate then the FNM.

I can't argue with this.

Posted by: A Gay Frog at September 19, 2025 01:50 PM (YbF8U)

239 You can't drink all day if you don't start early.
Posted by: Ancient Wisdom
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Founding Father Stephen Hopkins (at least the actor playing him in 1776 would agree).

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:50 PM (WDjG6)

240 Credit card debt is pretty horrible.

A mortgage might run you 3-7%

A car loan a bit more then that.

But credit card debt? 20% or more.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:50 PM (sKqQm)

241 11 It's still remarkable to me how much more gracefully Roseanne aged than a lot of other celebrities. - XTC

Very true. Compare with Madonna. Or the late Robert Redford, for that matter - although in fairness to the latter, he lived out west and spent a lot of time outdoors, which no doubt accounts for the fact that his face resembled a dried out saddle bag for the last two decades of his life.

Posted by: Paco at September 19, 2025 01:50 PM (mADJX)

242 There's this thing called "Powerball." And no, it's not another one of Fani Willis' rentboys.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025

There is a catch to everything, and in this case, I am pretty sure you have to play to win.

Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:50 PM (pZEOD)

243 Okay, let's do this shit. 5 of the moronettes will have a daily discussion about current events and televise it! We won't bother having a permanent leftist kook on the panel. We can invite a leftist kook to be our guest. We will, of course, eviscerate the idiot. If the kook gets uppity, we turn it in to a pinata!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (2J/Lj)

Close with mud-wrasling and I'd tune in.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (i24o9)

244 Robert Duvall was a dirty, stinking, sneaky Nazi!

https://is.gd/rI7w4P

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (L/fGl)

He was great as Augustus McCrae, so I forgive him.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (6ydKt)

245 I want one. The robot's pretty cool too.

http://tiny.cc/l4ts001

Posted by: bonhomme at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (lIio7)

246 With new cars it’s often cheaper to get a loan than pay cash. Especially with domestic brands. They’ll give $5k bonus cash to finance with them. Because the financing is where they make the real money not the sale. GM as the joke goes is a bank that makes cars on the side.

Take the $5k and then pay it off the loan next day.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:43 PM (qM1j6)
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This is why I financed the one new car I've ever bought. $1500 rebate got me to the price I wanted. I read the fine print on it *very* carefully. No early payment penalty (those are illegal for consumer debt in most places), but the rebate was subject to clawback if the loan was paid off prior to 90 days.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (6bTRc)
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Yes and no. If you use cash to buy the car, then you don't have that cash to put in the market or otherwise invest. If you think you'll make 10% yearly in the market over the term of the loan, and the loan is at 7% interest, by financing you're not only getting a better deal on the car, but you're making a little on the float. 3% of 50k over 5 years is $7,500.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)

247 “As noted, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has changed everything, forever.”

I’ve never seen such a response from people of all demographics, even from people who ignore politics. It’s a watershed event.

Posted by: Squid at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (9tIK7)

248 186 There's this thing called "Powerball." And no, it's not another one of Fani Willis' rentboys.

rollerball > powerball

Posted by: mr. bartholomew at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (v3pYe)

249
Breaking: A Hawaiian Judge has issued a stay to keep Jimmy Kimmel Show on the Air.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge Club at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (IifOV)

250 This callipygian brunette in a dress doesn't worry about "tit for tat" because she doesn't have any tats:
http://tiny.cc/k4ts001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (6bTRc)

251 >>> mentally ill stabbing people at random

It is not random.

BTW are they still shoving old asian women in front of the train?
Or are Asians not public enemy number one anymore...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (/lPRQ)

252 Don't some dealers have an early-repayment penalty?
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:44 PM (UnA8+)

Loans are by the captive lender not dealers themselves. And typically no. Or maybe as Manic said above. 90 day rule. Always read the contract.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (qM1j6)

253 Two weeks ago, on my way home from a Sunday afternoon church event, there was a topless gathering at the downtown square. Nothing says 'We're a nice family-friendly town' like a Sunday topless event
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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And probably not the sort you want to see topless anyway.

"It is like National Geographic came to life" would have been the response of some kid in the 60's and 70's.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (WDjG6)

254 Bessent said in the interview with Breitbart News that the deal was possible only because Trump empowered his negotiators to act decisively and backed their willingness to let TikTok go dark.
“President Trump gave Ambassador [Jamieson] Greer and myself wide-ranging authority,” Bessent said. “President Trump was willing to let TikTok go dark. That’s what shocked them.”

Posted by: SMOD at September 19, 2025 01:52 PM (RHGPo)

255 232 Okay, let's do this shit. 5 of the moronettes will have a daily discussion about current events and televise it! We won't bother having a permanent leftist kook on the panel. We can invite a leftist kook to be our guest. We will, of course, eviscerate the idiot. If the kook gets uppity, we turn it in to a pinata!

sounds good - I can sort of be a 2-face - I know what the leftist kooks are saying or would say on any given topic. then I can switch back to Normal! so I'd be like 1/2 an alternate viewpoint.

this is fair bc we usually see supposed conservatives who in their hearts are liberals! so they slip into it (the liberalness) or taint their "right-side opinions" with leftist framing

I could openly switch that around! Talk like crazy lefty, secretly cruel righty lol

Posted by: Black Orchid at September 19, 2025 01:52 PM (FHttA)

256 232 Okay, let's do this shit. 5 of the moronettes will have a daily discussion about current events and televise it! We won't bother having a permanent leftist kook on the panel. We can invite a leftist kook to be our guest. We will, of course, eviscerate the idiot. If the kook gets uppity, we turn it in to a pinata!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September

Oh my gosh this would be hysterical.

Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (pZEOD)

257 Two weeks ago, on my way home from a Sunday afternoon church event, there was a topless gathering at the downtown square. Nothing says 'We're a nice family-friendly town' like a Sunday topless event
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Were there any spectacular tits or was it fugly with headlights?

Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (AdHga)

258 207 That's why no-one is moving right now, which in turn is why housing supply is so low. A lot of us a sitting on mortgages that are cheaper than inflation.
____

I don't have a mortgage (paid cash 12 years ago), but I'm still not moving right now because the available housing is limited and crappy compared to my updated/improved home (Massachusetts). Plus, admittedly, I don't expect to be living in this Democrat insane asylum in a few years.

Posted by: Boston Wrong at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (qUkBO)

259 251 >>> mentally ill stabbing people at random

It is not random.

BTW are they still shoving old asian women in front of the train?
Or are Asians not public enemy number one anymore...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Drugged out nutjob criminals are pretty random--they pick victims they think they can get away with killing or harming. Usually women.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (WDjG6)

260 Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2025 01:48 PM (3uBP9)

There is another option, not optimal, but one I like using.

That is stay kind and compassionate and take the shit. Warn them, but with kindness.

Then when they inevitably cross whichever line you have, go way further than they ever dreamed of or imagined, and you fucking destroy them.

Posted by: ... at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (ZW9XP)

261 >
Why do people think housing should have somehow been immune from that? Will a Big Mac fall in price? Nope. So why do you think a house will?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at September 19, 2025 01:30 PM (qM1j6)

Because the price of a Big Mac correlates almost perfectly with inflation, while the price of houses (in many areas) has increased at a rate much higher than that of inflation.

I'm old enough to remember when house prices here in Alaska dropped by about 25% in the late '80s, due to the oil bust.

That's a nasty haircut, especially if the house is your only real investment.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (qpyNK)

262 On housing, my advice is unless you live in a really bubbly real estate market, probably should buy a home and not try and time it.

On public policy, if the GOP wants to make housing more affordable, get private equity out of the home rental business and disincentivize short term rentals. The latest BBB just showered more money on investors crowding into short term AirBnb properties.

Posted by: Leupold at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (4pwAx)

263
It's still remarkable to me how much more gracefully Roseanne aged than a lot of other celebrities.

___________

Some of it is genetic. Her Majesty is 72 and looks at least 20 years younger. To other people. She'll always look 20 to me.*

*She's out of town

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (tgvbd)

264 Debt is the destroyer of worlds. 99% of bankruptcies aren't because the person or business wasn't making money. In many cases, there's tons of income. But they're drowning in debt to the point where it's sucking up all the income.

There is "good" debt which is valuable and should be used (reasonable mortages, etc). But too much debt, or debt for the wrong things, will kill you.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

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Debt is a tool that allows for growth.

It's also addictive as fuck and can destroy you without mercy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)
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Correct

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

265 I never bothered getting a credit card (my father is also angry at me about THAT).

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (UnA8+)

266 I want one. The robot's pretty cool too.

http://tiny.cc/l4ts001
Posted by: bonhomme at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (lIio7)

All I can think of is how sore I will be after I finish riding it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (MZ6Is)

267 Nothing says 'We're a nice family-friendly town' like a Sunday topless event

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a 70 year old house at September 19, 2025 01:49 PM (XeU6L)

Seems pretty friendly to me.

"Howdy neighbor! These are my boobs."

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (6ydKt)

268 Dems booted from Ashland County Fair over Trump buttons, sheriff alerting Secret Service
The Ashland County Democrats were kicked out of the county fair over "offensive" buttons directed at President Donald Trump
https://t.co/rH9H1GWbi2

The Ashland County sheriff is planning to contact the U.S. Secret Service after "offensive" buttons were found at the Democratic Party booth at the Ashland County Fair in Ohio, resulting in the group's removal from the fairgrounds.
The buttons at the Ashland County Democrats booth had messages about President Donald Trump like "Is he dead yet?" and "One day, we will wake up to his obituary" alongside "He's not my president" and "We will survive," Fox 8 News reports...

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (9aVck)

269 264 Debt is a tool that allows for growth.

It's also addictive as fuck and can destroy you without mercy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)
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Correct
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (iFTx/)

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I'll stick to heroin, thank you very much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

270
...Biden did me no favors.

Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:40 PM (p4NUW)

Yeah, inflation essentially sets a "new zero" for everything.

So, now everything costs more and will continue costing more.

Thanks, Democrats!

Retirees really took it in the shorts. I hope any over 29 year olds still voting for Democrats enjoy their Alpo and/or Little Friskys.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (iJfKG)

271 256 232 Okay, let's do this shit. 5 of the moronettes will have a daily discussion about current events and televise it! We won't bother having a permanent leftist kook on the panel. We can invite a leftist kook to be our guest. We will, of course, eviscerate the idiot. If the kook gets uppity, we turn it in to a pinata!
Posted by: Madamemayhem
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Contact CBD and/or JJ would be my advice. He and JJ already have a podcast.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (WDjG6)

272 Buy a small trailer for a home.
Far from shopping but there are plenty of drug dealers to choose from.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (WHP6G)

273 ... If you think you'll make 10% yearly in the market over the term of the loan, and the loan is at 7% interest, by financing you're not only getting a better deal on the car, but you're making a little on the float. 3% of 50k over 5 years is $7,500.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)
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The interest was high and returns were low. That was during the interest rate repression era and returns were generally shit. I understand the math on this, but I want a bigger spread than that to carry the liability of having to take big penalties to float it if I lose my job. Now at this point, that wouldn't matter because my emergency funds are top-notch and I might make a different decision under different circumstances - but not having the debt albatross also has value. The bitch of it is that it's subjective and depends on your level of risk appetite.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (6bTRc)

274 Alright, which one of you is this?

http://tiny.cc/o4ts001

Posted by: bonhomme at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (lIio7)

275 Or are Asians not public enemy number one anymore...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (/lPRQ)

We could be.

Posted by: Rooftop Koreans at September 19, 2025 01:55 PM (ZW9XP)

276 average person can probably float $50k to $75k in credit card debt. Someone with a more substantial income could float $100s of thousands of dollars. I know. I've seen it.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

I drive a 15 year old 4Runner (that takes me (and Charlie the poodle) where we need to go) and payoff my credit cards every month. But I'm not very smart.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 01:55 PM (L/fGl)

277 Yes and no. If you use cash to buy the car, then you don't have that cash to put in the market or otherwise invest. If you think you'll make 10% yearly in the market over the term of the loan, and the loan is at 7% interest, by financing you're not only getting a better deal on the car, but you're making a little on the float. 3% of 50k over 5 years is $7,500.

Constructive uses of debt don't come naturally to most people.

So any time you can get a loan for a lower rate then you can earn on investments you should go for it.

But those investments are usually not guaranteed RoI and the loans do have a payment schedule so you do need to plan out how you are approaching it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:55 PM (sKqQm)

278 255
I could openly switch that around! Talk like crazy lefty, secretly cruel righty lol
Posted by: Black Orchid at September

I think we could do a podcast and just read the comments here. Just go down the line and read them.

Posted by: Piper at September 19, 2025 01:55 PM (pZEOD)

279 The shooter and his boyfriend won’t get to marry and have children, will they?

Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2025 01:56 PM (jgmnb)

280 > Were there any spectacular tits or was it fugly with headlights?
Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (AdHga)

I've probably told the story of the time I went to a so-called "Slut Walk", because the event was supposedly going to involve naked sluts, and... I'm a dude.

What a mistake that was.

Naked, yes, but I find it hard to believe that some of these creatures had ever had enough cumulative sex in their lives to qualify as "sluts".

Not. Enough. Tequila. In. The. World.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:56 PM (qpyNK)

281 I'll stick to heroin, thank you very much.
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Go with Quaaludes. You'll never give a shit evah!

Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 01:56 PM (AdHga)

282 Isn't it NPR's job to lie about news? After all, if they didn't do it, who would? There would be millions of Americans unlied to. (Except for all the other stations, that is.)

BTW, where I live, other radio stations routinely "step on" The Classical Station. It's a pain. But I guess because it's not NPR, it's OK.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (s0JqF)

283 There is "good" debt which is valuable and should be used (reasonable mortages, etc). But too much debt, or debt for the wrong things, will kill you.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

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Productive debt. Don't take out debt to pay for depreciating assets. That said, your house depreciates, but the land it sits on usually appreciates at a faster rate. So debt for housing is good. Ideally, living in a tent on a valuable plot of land is best.

Debt for cars is bad, unless the car companies are offering good terms (which they often do). Then take the debt and stick the capital you would have used into the stock market.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (1Nv0l)

284 Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (9aVck)

The Democrats of Ashland County don't seem like very bright people. They didn't think somebody might be offended by this? Also, they have no suggestions for supposedly improving the county other than " Kill Donald Trump" 😕

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (looXz)

285 The shooter and his boyfriend won’t get to marry and have children, will they?
Posted by: Eromero at September 19, 2025 01:56 PM (jgmnb)
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They won't be able to get a legally-recognized union and buy an orphan, no.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (6bTRc)

286 This callipygian brunette in a dress doesn't worry about "tit for tat" because she doesn't have any tats:
http://tiny.cc/k4ts001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (6bTRc)
_

She looks exactly like that friend I had in law school who I might have mentioned before. She stripped (not full nude) to pay for law school. She made tons of money. Sadly, she was an insane nut and hardcore leftist.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (iFTx/)

287 >>> I want one. The robot's pretty cool too.

http://tiny.cc/l4ts001
Posted by: bonhomme at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (lIio7)

All I can think of is how sore I will be after I finish riding it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (MZ6Is)

It needs stirrups at least.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (3uBP9)

288 Productive debt. Don't take out debt to pay for depreciating assets. That said, your house depreciates, but the land it sits on usually appreciates at a faster rate. So debt for housing is good. Ideally, living in a tent on a valuable plot of land is best.

Debt for cars is bad, unless the car companies are offering good terms (which they often do). Then take the debt and stick the capital you would have used into the stock market.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (1Nv0l)
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If you're borrowing to consume, you're borrowing wrong.

And lending to people for the purpose of consumption should be reserved at 100%. There's no collateral, no way to liquidate it and make yourself whole as the lender.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:58 PM (6bTRc)

289 I never bothered getting a credit card (my father is also angry at me about THAT).
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (UnA8+)

I have multiple checking accounts, for no reason other than I'm too lazy to close up some of them, after moving from one state to another.

So my one and only CC for years has been attached to a bank in Missouri, where I don't live.

The local bank (credit union, actually) offered me a CC, where I could transfer balance from another card. At the time I had a couple thousand on the old CC, because of unexpected events. So I thought why not.

I'm an idiot, I didn't realize they charge you for transferring the balance, I just thought it was to get you to take their card.

So, needless to say I didn't transfer the balance, but now I have two credit cards. And probably will the rest of my life.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 01:58 PM (MZ6Is)

290
He was great as Augustus McCrae, so I forgive him.

Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Good stuff in 'Open Range' too:

Boss Spearman (Duvall): We come for justice, not vengeance. Now them is two different things.
Charley Waite (Kevin Costner): Not today they ain't.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, with a 70 year old house at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (XeU6L)

291 The shooter and his boyfriend won’t get to marry and have children, will they?

To this day this Monty Python skit is the best take on trannies that has ever been done https://tinyurl.com/46dbyw86

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (sKqQm)

292 Alright, which one of you is this?

http://tiny.cc/o4ts001
Posted by: bonhomme
......

Pretty sure that's Ace after fasting for 2 days, about to suffer a groin injury.

Posted by: wth at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (UjdFS)

293 > 265 I never bothered getting a credit card (my father is also angry at me about THAT).
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (UnA8+)

How do you pay for hotels and the like, or shop online?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (qpyNK)

294 Naked, yes, but I find it hard to believe that some of these creatures had ever had enough cumulative sex in their lives to qualify as "sluts".

Not. Enough. Tequila. In. The. World.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Unfortunately Rodrigo, the thirst of some males for somewhere to place their twig and berries goes far beyond good sense and taste.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (WDjG6)

295 Constructive uses of debt don't come naturally to most people.

So any time you can get a loan for a lower rate then you can earn on investments you should go for it.

But those investments are usually not guaranteed RoI and the loans do have a payment schedule so you do need to plan out how you are approaching it.
Posted by: 18-1

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Most people are wired to spend the money they see in front of them. So this surplus amount they had by taking a loan...just gets spent on other things. Not other investments.

With the exception of a home mortgage, I think most people would be better off not taking debt when possible.

I would guess a trivial amount of people are successful in actually arbitrage debt and making money on it.

Posted by: Leupold at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (4pwAx)

296 288 If you're borrowing to consume, you're borrowing wrong.

And lending to people for the purpose of consumption should be reserved at 100%. There's no collateral, no way to liquidate it and make yourself whole as the lender.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:58 PM (6bTRc)

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We do the thing of putting everything on the credit card but paying it off every month.

The only debt we keep for more than a few weeks are the big things. I think it's just the house now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

297 Two weeks ago, on my way home from a Sunday afternoon church event, there was a topless gathering at the downtown square. Nothing says 'We're a nice family-friendly town' like a Sunday topless event
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Were there any spectacular tits or was it fugly with headlights?
Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 01:53 PM (AdHga)

The people who want to be seen naked are usually the people you don't want to see naked.

Posted by: Josephistan at September 19, 2025 02:00 PM (y9ksN)

298 If you think you'll make 10% yearly in the market over the term of the loan, and the loan is at 7% interest, by financing you're not only getting a better deal on the car, but you're making a little on the float. 3% of 50k over 5 years is $7,500.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)
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The interest was high and returns were low. That was during the interest rate repression era and returns were generally shit. I understand the math on this, but I want a bigger spread than that to carry the liability of having to take big penalties to float it if I lose my job. Now at this point, that wouldn't matter because my emergency funds are top-notch and I might make a different decision under different circumstances - but not having the debt albatross also has value. The bitch of it is that it's subjective and depends on your level of risk appetite.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 01:54 PM (6bTRc)
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I don't give out financial or investment advice any more than I give out girl or sex advice. Everyone's tastes, expectations, and acceptable risks are different.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 02:00 PM (iFTx/)

299 It needs stirrups at least.
Posted by: banana Dream at September 19, 2025 01:57 PM (3uBP9)

I don't care what IT needs, I'm gonna need elbow and knee pads, a back brace and heart pills.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 02:00 PM (MZ6Is)

300 Not. Enough. Tequila. In. The. World.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:56 PM (qpyNK)

I can't imagine the stench. I volunteer at community theater, because my kids do it. I sometimes get tasked with herding cats, including no shenanigans in the boys change room, and they reek.

But over the summer, there was a teen conservatory, and I wasn't volunteering, just attended a show, and OMG, the girls stunk worse than the boys. Like hold your breath, breath shallow through the mouth and still nearly gagging stink.

Wash your behinds, ladies, and step closer to the deodorant, especially entering puberty. Yikes.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (i24o9)

301 He wasn't Real Left because (checks notes) It's Never Been Tried!

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (9DX0S)

302 The people who want to be seen naked are usually the people you don't want to see naked.
Posted by: Josephistan at September 19, 2025 02:00 PM (y9ksN)
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I'm right here, big boy.

Posted by: Lena Dunnam at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (ZW9XP)

303 We do the thing of putting everything on the credit card but paying it off every month.

The only debt we keep for more than a few weeks are the big things. I think it's just the house now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)
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Same way I use mine. Credit cards are convenient and if it's a good rewards card, you come ahead by using them.

I use mine for online and fuel and some large in-person purchases.

I come out *way* ahead on it. And for that reason, in the inverted world of finance, I am a "deadbeat" credit card holder.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (6bTRc)

304 I've noticed over the last few days that the propaganda ministries are saying that turning Kirk into a saint and martyr will split Republicans AND MAGA. This is wish casting at best delusional at worst. More people who aren't involved on the right are seeing how batshit crazy the left really is

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (lmTGO)

305 The Democrats of Ashland County don't seem like very bright people. They didn't think somebody might be offended by this? Also, they have no suggestions for supposedly improving the county other than " Kill Donald Trump" 😕
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Orangeman Bad was simply no longer moving the needle. But the subtext to that threat to Trump is to all of those who voted for and support him. They want us dead too if we don't capitulate.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (WDjG6)

306 Didn't Michelle do the same with Tim Allen's show? She called up one of her besties at ABC and they cancelled their top rated comedy. Poof.
Posted by: Ktgreat

Remember the rodeo clown with the Obama mask? Saw a tweet on Insty yesterday written by Stephen Miller telling Obama to "fcuk off" as he sent his goons after that clown. Obama don't get much respect anymore.

Posted by: Tuna at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (lJ0H4)

307 Yeah, inflation essentially sets a "new zero" for everything.
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Dem acquaintances were celebratory when 'The Inflation Reduction Act' was put in place.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (XeU6L)

308 If you're borrowing to consume, you're borrowing wrong.

And lending to people for the purpose of consumption should be reserved at 100%. There's no collateral, no way to liquidate it and make yourself whole as the lender.

Also college lending needs to be restricted.

Giving an 18 year old a $250K loan to get a degree in women's studies degree you be fraud.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)

309 Unfortunately Rodrigo, the thirst of some males for somewhere to place their twig and berries goes far beyond good sense and taste.
Posted by: whig

Tell me about it.

Posted by: jar of peanut butter at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (UjdFS)

310 Homeless people crapping and panhandling there, mentally ill stabbing people at random, illegals groping and harassing the womenfolk, and drug dealers running open markets and occasionally spraying bullets everywhere.

Posted by: whig

The other day, one of the Lotus Eaters podcast guys showed a picture that encapsulates everything wrong in Europe.

An illegal mohammedan, in a Belgian city square, cooking a dinner of some animal on the flame of the memorial to the unknown soldier.

This man is just feasting on the remains of a once great culture that he has no concept of.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (0U5gm)

311 303 I come out *way* ahead on it. And for that reason, in the inverted world of finance, I am a "deadbeat" credit card holder.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (6bTRc)

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Dolley wants the travel rewards. We pay for plane tickets at least partially with points that way. Travel makes her happy.

Oh, and the Costco card has good percentage back on gas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

312 So ... whig is respected and TJM is reviled?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at

This seems accurate, if a bit understated.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 19, 2025 02:02 PM (n4GiU)

313 307 Yeah, inflation essentially sets a "new zero" for everything.
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Dem acquaintances were celebratory when 'The Inflation Reduction Act' was put in place.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (XeU6L)

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Their elites got paid. It's like their favorite football team winning a game.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

314
Giving an 18 year old a $250K loan to get a degree in women's studies degree you be fraud.
Posted by: 18-1

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Upset the BBB didn't wrangle this in. I believe they put a $250k cap on student loans guaranteed by Uncle Sam.

Would have liked the number zero, but a missed opportunity not to have cut this number down significantly.

Posted by: Leupold at September 19, 2025 02:03 PM (4pwAx)

315 308 Also college lending needs to be restricted.

Giving an 18 year old a $250K loan to get a degree in women's studies degree you be fraud.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)

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The OBBB did add some restrictions. $200,000 is now the max the government will lend out for grad studies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

316 I don't give out financial or investment advice any more than I give out girl or sex advice. Everyone's tastes, expectations, and acceptable risks are different.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 02:00 PM (iFTx/)
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Yup. My risk appetite is low, so my decisions are different than they are for some others.

But most people don't think about it at *all*, and that's bad. I think we ought to actually teach these concepts in high school. Each person will always make his own decisions, but they should be *taught* how it works and some of the trade-offs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:04 PM (6bTRc)

317 To this day this Monty Python skit is the best take on trannies that has ever been done https://tinyurl.com/46dbyw86
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (sKqQm)

Idle's just sitting there smiling.

I bet they had to do numerous takes, and this was the only one where he didn't shit himself laughing.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 02:04 PM (MZ6Is)

318 I would guess a trivial amount of people are successful in actually arbitrage debt and making money on it.

I see a lot of internet advice along these lines...

Take out a loan to start your business which will pay way more then the interest on your loan so you are getting free money!

Well, yes, if you have a solid business plan. But most people don't.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 02:04 PM (sKqQm)

319 So ... whig is respected and TJM is reviled?
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I've never seen whig bring up Prometheus.

Posted by: Methos at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (vSvIl)

320 316 But most people don't think about it at *all*, and that's bad. I think we ought to actually teach these concepts in high school. Each person will always make his own decisions, but they should be *taught* how it works and some of the trade-offs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:04 PM (6bTRc)

==

I remember one financial management commercial.

Caveman who lived in a society that used teeth for currency. He discovered that he could use his own teeth, so he started pulling them and became very rich in goods.

Then he went to eat his big steak he had bought and discovered he only had gums.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (GBKbO)

321 Also college lending needs to be restricted.

Giving an 18 year old a $250K loan to get a degree in women's studies degree you be fraud.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)
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Remove the bankruptcy exemption on student debt and watch it self-regulate faster than you can blink. Lenders will care a *lot* about area of study, GPA, internships, total debt load, etc. if they know they can lose the investment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (6bTRc)

322 Giving an 18 year old a $250K loan to get a degree in women's studies degree you be fraud.
Posted by: 18-1

I worked in student loan fraud for a while. You probably wouldn't be surprised to learn what some of those kids do to get those loans.

Posted by: Tuna at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (lJ0H4)

323 This man is just feasting on the remains of a once great culture that he has no concept of.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
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And if the soul of that soldier was watching from on high, he would have said, I died for THIS?

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 02:06 PM (WDjG6)

324 Like hold your breath, breath shallow through the mouth and still nearly gagging stink.
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If you mouth breath you are eating the stink. Man up and use your nose as a filter.

Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 02:06 PM (AdHga)

325 Also college lending needs to be restricted.

Giving an 18 year old a $250K loan to get a degree in women's studies degree you be fraud.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (sKqQm)
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Remove the bankruptcy exemption on student debt and watch it self-regulate faster than you can blink. Lenders will care a *lot* about area of study, GPA, internships, total debt load, etc. if they know they can lose the investment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (6bTRc)
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This. That there is even a student loan exemption in the first place is pure corruption.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 02:06 PM (iFTx/)

326 And for that reason, in the inverted world of finance, I am a "deadbeat" credit card holder.

Recently, I bought a new car. Despite being within 10 points of a perfect credit score, they initially gave me a hard time because I have almost 0 debt and I pay my card(s) off every month.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 19, 2025 02:06 PM (3Ope8)

327 I worked in student loan fraud for a while. You probably wouldn't be surprised to learn what some of those kids do to get those loans.
Posted by: Tuna at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (lJ0H4)

My friend's daughter went on a cruise.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (whdlM)

328 Well, here at work we just got word from our Chancellor and Provost about the official university position about employees posting on social media.

Summarized as follows:

"Don't be a dumbass."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (7fElN)

329 Looks like the Congress Dems have decided that they are going to continue to call us fascists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (rvwwT)

330 271 256 232 Okay, let's do this shit. 5 of the moronettes will have a daily discussion about current events and televise it! We won't bother having a permanent leftist kook on the panel. We can invite a leftist kook to be our guest. We will, of course, eviscerate the idiot. If the kook gets uppity, we turn it in to a pinata!
Posted by: Madamemayhem

The difference between our female audience side and theirs...we'd probably rather watch some uplifting human interest stories followed by a cute kids/cute pets segment, and finished with a food story. We wouldn't want to watch 1 hour of bitching, even if it's our side.

Posted by: Nova Local at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (tOcjL)

331 In the what if scenario of Belgium just throwing in the towel in WWI I suspect those hypothetical people would be better off then the real ones living there today

Posted by: 18-1 at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (sKqQm)

332 Recently, I bought a new car. Despite being within 10 points of a perfect credit score, they initially gave me a hard time because I have almost 0 debt and I pay my card(s) off every month.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 19, 2025 02:06 PM (3Ope

+++++
"Too few accounts paid as agreed." Nicely ambiguous. It can mean "you don't pay on time" or it can mean "you don't have many accounts."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (6bTRc)

333 The best thing about this cluster is Jimmy Kimmel is really, really mad.

Without this show he will be soon forgotten and not invited to the correct parties.

Anyhow. . .

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (FxH7T)

334 Remove the bankruptcy exemption on student debt and watch it self-regulate faster than you can blink. Lenders will care a *lot* about area of study, GPA, internships, total debt load, etc. if they know they can lose the investment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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All primary student loans are gubmint direct loans--no banks or underwriting involved. Been that way since Obamacare. FFEL (family loans are still private AFAIK) and some banks might issue private loans as well that are risk assessed.

Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (WDjG6)

335 329 Looks like the Congress Dems have decided that they are going to continue to call us fascists.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (rvwwT)

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"But Durbin said that you're not! We've won the narrative battle for the afternoon!"
-them, yesterday

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (GBKbO)

336 Recently, I bought a new car. Despite being within 10 points of a perfect credit score, they initially gave me a hard time because I have almost 0 debt and I pay my card(s) off every month.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

I've had the exact opposite experience when buying a new car. The dealers couldn't wait to get me signed as soon as they saw my credit score.

Posted by: Tuna at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (lJ0H4)

337 293 How do you pay for hotels and the like, or shop online?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM (qpyNK)

Most places let one use a debit card for that.

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (UnA8+)

338 At my age, I'm kind of a "Now or Never" point of trying to acquire a house or not.

My father doesn't want me to it, he wants me to sit on the money that I have to do so (in some sort of safe low-yield account) for the rest of my life, and rent until I die (and has explicitly said as much).

I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.
Posted by: XTC

If you feel strongly about it buy the house. But even if you own it outright you will still be paying maintenance costs. And unless you live in a state with no real estate tax (they take it out in other taxes) then you will still pay your annual “rent” to the County Tax Assessor!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at September 19, 2025 02:09 PM (lI6w+)

339
Upset the BBB didn't wrangle this in. I believe they put a $250k cap on student loans guaranteed by Uncle Sam.

Would have liked the number zero, but a missed opportunity not to have cut this number down significantly.

Posted by: Leupold
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Loans? Who needs loans?:

Wake Forest University has announced that starting with the fall 2026 semester, admitted undergraduates from North Carolina with family incomes under $200,000 will attend tuition-free.

It's FREE!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2025 02:09 PM (XeU6L)

340 Like hold your breath, breath shallow through the mouth and still nearly gagging stink.
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If you mouth breath you are eating the stink. Man up and use your nose as a filter.

Posted by: pudinhead at September 19, 2025 02:06 PM (AdHga)

Hobson's choice.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at September 19, 2025 02:10 PM (i24o9)

341 We use our American Airlines MC for anything that costs more than a couple hundred bucks, automatically pay it off at the end of each month. We have been upgraded to First Class on about a third of our flights thus far this year. It's a good system.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 19, 2025 02:10 PM (vV6n9)

342 Credit scores are a scam too, they ding people for making good financial decisions.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 19, 2025 02:10 PM (rvwwT)

343 All primary student loans are gubmint direct loans--no banks or underwriting involved. Been that way since Obamacare. FFEL (family loans are still private AFAIK) and some banks might issue private loans as well that are risk assessed.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (WDjG6)
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Which was *not* true when the exemption went into place. They nibbled at it for about 20 years until it was finished in Bush 43's bankruptcy reform. The nationalization happened later, which was an entirely different piece of policy fuckery. In combination, it's quite awful.

Both reversals are needed. No federal direct lending, no bankruptcy carve-outs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (6bTRc)

344 An illegal mohammedan, in a Belgian city square, cooking a dinner of some animal on the flame of the memorial to the unknown soldier.

This man is just feasting on the remains of a once great culture that he has no concept of.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 19, 2025 02:01 PM (0U5gm)

I saw that episode.
It really was a symbolic image.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (6ydKt)

345 Only thing worth saying to Marxist is 1984.
Every situation say, 1984.
Until they finish reading 1984.
If they change yea. If not you will have a fight on your hands.
Give guns to the whole family.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (WHP6G)

346 Ace, you need to look this swamp donkey up. I think she's related to Trigglypuff .

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST: Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana has announced the termination of Suzanne Swierc, Director of Health Promotion and Advocacy.

The university said her actions caused “significant disruption” and raised questions about “her ability to perform her work in a leadership position” following controversial remarks she made about Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (jddXn)

347 Unfortunately Rodrigo, the thirst of some males for somewhere to place their twig and berries goes far beyond good sense and taste.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM

May I enter myself as Exhibit A?

Posted by: The Moroccan Donkey at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (0sNs1)

348 It's great you have to tell phd's to not be a fucking retards while on social media.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (whdlM)

349 Well, here at work we just got word from our Chancellor and Provost about the official university position about employees posting on social media.

Summarized as follows:

"Don't be a dumbass."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Problem is, most have no idea how dumb ass they be.

Posted by: From about That Time at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (n4GiU)

350 336 Recently, I bought a new car. Despite being within 10 points of a perfect credit score, they initially gave me a hard time because I have almost 0 debt and I pay my card(s) off every month.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

I've had the exact opposite experience when buying a new car. The dealers couldn't wait to get me signed as soon as they saw my credit score.
Posted by: Tuna at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (lJ0H4)

When I bought my last car, the Dealership initially flat out refused to sell when I said I intended to pay cash.

I eventually had to get my grandfather (RIP) involved, and they only agreed to the sale because they knew who he was (back when he was working, he was in charge of buying fleet vehicles for the company he worked at, and always bought from that dealership).

Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (UnA8+)

351 Remove the bankruptcy exemption on student debt and watch it self-regulate faster than you can blink. Lenders will care a *lot* about area of study, GPA, internships, total debt load, etc. if they know they can lose the investment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:05 PM (6bTRc)

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Most of all they'll care about funding an affirmative-action minority candidate with a GPA 1/2 his classmates'.

That's the real reason student loans can't be discharged.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (1Nv0l)

352
Wake Forest University has announced that starting with the fall 2026 semester, admitted undergraduates from North Carolina with family incomes under $200,000 will attend tuition-free.
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You know what, I might apply. Could be fun.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2025 02:12 PM (XeU6L)

353 Nude AOC

Posted by: Elric The Blade at September 19, 2025 02:12 PM (iFTx/)

354 Unfortunately Rodrigo, the thirst of some males for somewhere to place their twig and berries goes far beyond good sense and taste.
Posted by: whig at September 19, 2025 01:59 PM

May I enter myself as Exhibit A?
Posted by: The Moroccan Donkey at September 19, 2025 02:11 PM (0sNs1)

Stay in your lane, pal.

Posted by: Rabid Moroccan Donkey with a ruptured asshole at September 19, 2025 02:12 PM (whdlM)

355 The best thing about this cluster is Jimmy Kimmel is really, really mad.

Without this show he will be soon forgotten and not invited to the correct parties.

Anyhow. . .
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 19, 2025 02:07 PM (FxH7T)

I suspect he thinks the other nitwits in "show" business are defending him because they like him.

No, they just need a distraction, away from Charlie Kirk.

When he finds out they don't really give a shit either, it's going to hit even harder.

Corolla is out there defending the guy, basically saying the public persona is fake, and if you really knew the guy, he's nice.

Yeah, not buying it, Adam.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2025 02:12 PM (MZ6Is)

356 Whew.
I've just stained 360 feet of fence around part of Diogenes Acres, washed the truck, vacuumed, and cleaned out the garage. And I still smell better than the absolute Bull Sh*t that the dems keep throwing out there.
I'll be in the shower if anyone needs me.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 19, 2025 02:13 PM (2WIwB)

357 342 Credit scores are a scam too, they ding people for making good financial decisions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 19, 2025 02:10 PM (rvwwT)

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Credit scores are measures of credit risk and reward for those who give out credit, not a measure of fiscal acumen from the potential borrower.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a world of gods and monsters with James Whale at September 19, 2025 02:13 PM (GBKbO)

358 I really don't want to do that, as not having my own house has been one of the biggest sources of me feeling like a failure as an adult.
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 01:21 PM (UnA8+)
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Something to think about, and why I chose to buy a house, is retirement. Retirement is *much* easier if you have a paid-off house. It doesn't cost nothing - taxes, maintenance and insurance are always real and significant costs - but it costs much less and will make retirement a lot more achevable.

I don't know your circumstances and am *not* giving you advice, just something to think about. Whether or not to buy a house can have much longer-term consequences than it appears at first blush, which is particularly dangerous because buying a house is a highly emotional decision for most people (including me - however rationally I approached it, I was still sweating and nauseated when I actually did it).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 19, 2025 02:13 PM (6bTRc)

359 Cleto and the Cletones now playing in a club near you?

Jimmy K. should have to pay for their downtime.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at September 19, 2025 02:13 PM (NFX2v)

360 Posted by: Tuna at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (lJ0H4)

The F&I gal and I had a fairly abrupt and candid discussion. After I logged in and showed her the bank and the reporting agency metrics, she compared them to the metrics they use for their 'preferred lenders' and made a phone call. We rapidly came to a mutual agreement.

As Mannix indicated, if you don't have a revolving credit line with a balance to make payments on every month you're kinda 'unpersoned'.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 19, 2025 02:15 PM (3Ope8)

361 Kyle Keegan@realKyleKeegan
Mark Cuban could build a killer network around Colbert and Kimmel.

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Emphasis on "killer." "Take Kirk's life, please!" I support this plan to sink a few billion Cuban bucks into the black hole of prog comedy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Fat, Dumb, and Happy! at September 19, 2025 02:15 PM (L/fGl)

362 Nude AOC

Posted by: Elric
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Show us your tits!

Posted by: Drunken biker at September 19, 2025 02:15 PM (XeU6L)

363 Recently, I bought a new car. Despite being within 10 points of a perfect credit score, they initially gave me a hard time because I have almost 0 debt and I pay my card(s) off every month.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

I've had the exact opposite experience when buying a new car. The dealers couldn't wait to get me signed as soon as they saw my credit score.
Posted by: Tuna

They liked to shit my wife and I walked in. We had just sold our house. The down payment on the new build was safely tucked away.
They started to go thru all the financing options when I stopped them and told them I was paying cash for the new truck.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 19, 2025 02:16 PM (jddXn)

364 NPR is still pushing the lie. WAIT ! _ I thought that NPR was defunded.
GONE. what happened?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 19, 2025 02:16 PM (jj2yx)

365 People still take their phones to murders.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 19, 2025 02:16 PM (rqpD6)

366 If you think you'll make 10% yearly in the market over the term of the loan, and the loan is at 7% interest, by financing you're not only getting a better deal on the car, but you're making a little on the float. 3% of 50k over 5 years is $7,500.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

You have to have the right mental inclinations and pay really close attention to everything to make that work.

One lapse and you're looking at repossession or eviction.

If you've got that mental inclination and skill, more power to you, but it's a bad thing to advise to anyone who is not inclined that way.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at September 19, 2025 02:17 PM (a+4eV)

367 Isn't it NPR's job to lie about news? After all, if they didn't do it, who would?
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They currently have an article that suddenly discovers that grocery prices have gone up since 2020.

Which they find is due to Covid:
Because people stopped dining out and started having to cook 3 meals a day at home.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 19, 2025 02:17 PM (qHqHk)

368 The Ashland County Democrats were kicked out of the county fair over "offensive" buttons directed at President Donald Trump
https://t.co/rH9H1GWbi2

Ashland is a college town, its centerpiece a 135-acre campus of the venerable Ashland University. But it’s also the cozy kind of home that hosts Main Street window-decorating contests at Christmas and a summer cornhole tournament.

Regionally, it draws crowds to its annual Balloonfest and Ashland Chautauqua events, welcoming outsiders arriving via U.S. 250 with a sign that announces itself to be “The World Headquarters of Nice People.”

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 02:17 PM (Dv3i1)

369 Don't forget that Obama 'modernized' the Smith-Mundt Act of 1958 under the 2013 NDAA Act. The SM Act was passed to protect the American people from CIA/government) propaganda...

The Lightbringers crew added propagaindizing back into the game.

Posted by: Danimal28 at September 19, 2025 02:18 PM (mNOhh)

370 They started to go thru all the financing options when I stopped them and told them I was paying cash for the new truck.
____

All the car buying advice people say to not tell them at all. Get the out the door price first, while letting them know you want to wait to get to the financing discussing after the price is settled.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 02:20 PM (Dv3i1)

371 I got a letter from TransUnion that they had been hacked and some insignificant information, ssn, name, dob, things like that, were taken and I need to get in touch with the credit reporting agencies.
o, yeah.
Something needs, these agencies need some correction.
These agencies need DOGE to go through them like hungry dogs and straighten them out.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at September 19, 2025 02:21 PM (jj2yx)

372 Most places let one use a debit card for that.
Posted by: XTC at September 19, 2025 02:08 PM (UnA8+)

That's how we do it. I think we have a credit card for big emergency purchases but I have no idea where it is. Not a clue.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 19, 2025 02:21 PM (2J/Lj)

373 There should be a song

Do the Obama.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at September 19, 2025 02:22 PM (rqpD6)

374 There's a new post upstairs...

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 19, 2025 02:22 PM (Dv3i1)

375 @282 Isn't it NPR's job to lie about news?

Embellish, add color and interest.

How can they learn if you can't hold their attention?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at September 19, 2025 02:23 PM (NFX2v)

376 I don't want to play by these rules. I advocated against it. I didn't make these rules.

But I am damn well going to make sure THEY abide by these rules. I think they should fire Jimmy Kimmel immediately and move on. No suspension bullshit.

Sorry, they pulled the bullshit "I'm offended" schtick one time too many. Well, now I'm offended. time for you to crawl and apologize and still get fired.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at September 19, 2025 03:06 PM (gDhA9)

377 Imagine this - Kimmel gets up and says "I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk, but ladies and gentlemen, this is not the way. I'd like to take this moment to express my deepest condolences to his wife and children."

And then, no jokes about it. Because it isn't remotely funny.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at September 19, 2025 03:09 PM (gDhA9)

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