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Reading Thread 08/31/2025
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I need to reread this one.
Lily the Library Lion guards the sacred texts
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Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2025 09:00 AM (+qU29)
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Booken morgen horden!
Thanks Mr Weasel!
Thanks Mr Weasel!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:01 AM (eZ5tL)
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Nood duties performed.
Posted by: PabloD at August 31, 2025 09:01 AM (TDkp3)
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I dunno "click me" ... do I dare...
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:02 AM (eZ5tL)
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Yet haven't read much this week on Rick Atkinson's The British are Coming, a account of the Revolutionary Way 1775-7 because I have it on ebook and hardly had control of my tablet
Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2025 09:02 AM (+qU29)
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Reading report:
Stayed up all night on Thursday reading The Inheritance, an excellent new fantasy adventure from husband & wife team Ilona Andrews.
This book started out as a freebie giveaway on their blog, they expanded and published on Amazon on Aug 26. I think it's done so well a trad pub might buy it,
I am super happy because as a fan, was resigned to waiting for their next scheduled book to come out in 2026, from Tor, a new series that apparently was auctioned off for a pretty big number.
Stayed up all night on Thursday reading The Inheritance, an excellent new fantasy adventure from husband & wife team Ilona Andrews.
This book started out as a freebie giveaway on their blog, they expanded and published on Amazon on Aug 26. I think it's done so well a trad pub might buy it,
I am super happy because as a fan, was resigned to waiting for their next scheduled book to come out in 2026, from Tor, a new series that apparently was auctioned off for a pretty big number.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:02 AM (eZ5tL)
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Consfearacy is a great SLAYER song.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 31, 2025 09:04 AM (jZu31)
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"In the Country of the Blind" by the estimable Michael Flynn posits: What if it WAS all a plot? What if there really was a secret cabal running things behind the scenes...and they were incompetent?
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*looks around the world,
nods in agreement *
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*looks around the world,
nods in agreement *
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:04 AM (eZ5tL)
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Still with late '60s Iron Man. Gawd, Stan Lee wouldn't leave space empty. Yapyapyap. But I wonder whether that chatty style of storytelling helped put Marvel at the top.
I look at some pages and script them in my head. I repeat: If only we had had the artists of the '60s-'80s, the writers of the '70s-'90s, and the printing technology of today. That's why I buy the Marvel Epic Collection reprints; I get two of those three.
I look at some pages and script them in my head. I repeat: If only we had had the artists of the '60s-'80s, the writers of the '70s-'90s, and the printing technology of today. That's why I buy the Marvel Epic Collection reprints; I get two of those three.
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 09:05 AM (p/isN)
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MAPS!
Oh frabjous link!
I have a map of the ancient roman empire as made by a 15th century guy as part of my slideshow screensaver
Oh frabjous link!
I have a map of the ancient roman empire as made by a 15th century guy as part of my slideshow screensaver
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:06 AM (eZ5tL)
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I read Rhythm of War by Brandon Sanderson. This is the fourth book in The Stormlight Archive series. I'm looking forward to see how the first story arch ends in Wind and Truth; then it's wait patiently for each of the next five books to come out.
Posted by: Zoltan at August 31, 2025 09:07 AM (VOrDg)
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Eris, thank you, great post!
I recently saw a related cartoon - let me see if I can find it...
I recently saw a related cartoon - let me see if I can find it...
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:07 AM (eZ5tL)
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Good morning, crew! Has anyone else had a period where they couldn't find the mood to watch anything or read? I'm in one at the moment. I imagine it will pass.
Posted by: Rob at August 31, 2025 09:08 AM (reEoT)
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Ball bearing discussion creates friction on Smart Military Blog™.
Film at 11.
Film at 11.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 31, 2025 09:08 AM (XQo4F)
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What if there really was a secret cabal running things behind the scenes...and they were incompetent?
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Habsburgs?
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Habsburgs?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 31, 2025 09:09 AM (XvL8K)
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Any list of conspiracy and deep history writers needs to include William Cooper, assassinated by the government. Behold a Pale Horse is a compendium of the newsletters, includes the essential Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
I've been on a CIA kick lately myself, so I'm working on Ric Prado's Black Ops and Annie Jacobsen's Surprise Kill Vanish. Both are entertaining reads, but Prado's has some key redactions. As a veteran, I know they're mostly bullshit, heavily embellished CYA stories but I still get a kick out of them.
I've been on a CIA kick lately myself, so I'm working on Ric Prado's Black Ops and Annie Jacobsen's Surprise Kill Vanish. Both are entertaining reads, but Prado's has some key redactions. As a veteran, I know they're mostly bullshit, heavily embellished CYA stories but I still get a kick out of them.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 31, 2025 09:09 AM (qwx/I)
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Weasel, I think you took those hater comments way too hard! Letting the horde do the heavy lifting is fine.
A Who dis: is really appreciated, I think we all miss OM.
Ok now the grumbling, For those of us who try to peruse all the comments on this, The Best OF All Possible Threads, I thought we were promised some cereal box reading. I was hoping for Kaboom.
A Who dis: is really appreciated, I think we all miss OM.
Ok now the grumbling, For those of us who try to peruse all the comments on this, The Best OF All Possible Threads, I thought we were promised some cereal box reading. I was hoping for Kaboom.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 31, 2025 09:10 AM (KaHlS)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
All Hail Eris, thank you for the book thread today. Delightful, from the library pic to the musical choice to the pants I was planning to wear to the TxMoMe. What are you doing in my closet?
Also, an excellent bibliography of conspiracy lit. Adding some things to the TBR list.
All Hail Eris, thank you for the book thread today. Delightful, from the library pic to the musical choice to the pants I was planning to wear to the TxMoMe. What are you doing in my closet?
Also, an excellent bibliography of conspiracy lit. Adding some things to the TBR list.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 09:11 AM (h7ZuX)
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Good morning again morons and thanks weasel and AHE
I used to read Daniel Pipes' middle east analysis religiously, then he got TDS.
I used to read Daniel Pipes' middle east analysis religiously, then he got TDS.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 31, 2025 09:11 AM (RIvkX)
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Morning, Horde...How goes it?
I finished Esslemont's "Blood and Bone" last night. As usual with his Malazan books, there's a gambit pileup at the end as all the competing factions run into each other at warp speed. I'm still not sure what happened, though it does set up the next book "Assail."
I finished Esslemont's "Blood and Bone" last night. As usual with his Malazan books, there's a gambit pileup at the end as all the competing factions run into each other at warp speed. I'm still not sure what happened, though it does set up the next book "Assail."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 31, 2025 09:11 AM (IBQGV)
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Good morning fellow Book/Reading Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:12 AM (yTvNw)
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Here is the cartoon, not as related as I remembered, but still funny
https://tinyurl.com/bddp5b3r
https://tinyurl.com/bddp5b3r
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:12 AM (DoBxX)
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Morning, Weasel.
And morning, Eris.
Howdy, Horde.
Gotta say, I don't usually read much in the way of conspiracy stuff. But I've often said to the unbelievably nifty Mrs Some Guy that once you start viewing the entire universe as a conspiracy aimed straight at you, everything starts to make sense.
And morning, Eris.
Howdy, Horde.
Gotta say, I don't usually read much in the way of conspiracy stuff. But I've often said to the unbelievably nifty Mrs Some Guy that once you start viewing the entire universe as a conspiracy aimed straight at you, everything starts to make sense.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 09:12 AM (q3u5l)
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Good morning, Book Nerdz.
Thank you, All Hail Eris, for your submission today. Well done.
For my part, Perfessor Squirrel has granted me the privilege of updating the AoS Book Recommendations Library each week, which can be found at:
https://www.libib.com/library
My only day off is Tuesday each week, so I'll be updating the site with the books mentioned in today's excellent thread on that day. Hopefully I'll be able to keep up the Perfessor's excellent standards for that site.
If you miss the Sunday Reading Thread and have a book or books you'd like listed in the Perfessor's library, or are a moron author with the same need, please feel free to email me the details at:
Eventhorizonescapee -at- gmail -dot- com, and I'll do my best.
Thanks, Perfessor, for trusting me with this.
Thank you, All Hail Eris, for your submission today. Well done.
For my part, Perfessor Squirrel has granted me the privilege of updating the AoS Book Recommendations Library each week, which can be found at:
https://www.libib.com/library
My only day off is Tuesday each week, so I'll be updating the site with the books mentioned in today's excellent thread on that day. Hopefully I'll be able to keep up the Perfessor's excellent standards for that site.
If you miss the Sunday Reading Thread and have a book or books you'd like listed in the Perfessor's library, or are a moron author with the same need, please feel free to email me the details at:
Eventhorizonescapee -at- gmail -dot- com, and I'll do my best.
Thanks, Perfessor, for trusting me with this.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 09:12 AM (/RHNq)
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Aug 26 - is a typo
They published the ebook on Aug 16
They published the ebook on Aug 16
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:14 AM (DoBxX)
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 31, 2025 09:14 AM (KaHlS)
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Sharkman I will email you my rec
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:14 AM (DoBxX)
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On the Kindle, I read The Turing Exception by William Hertling. This is the fourth and final novel in the Singularity series. It's 2043 and an underground AI collective, XOR, concludes that AI can no longer coexist with humanity. An exciting battle ensues which has a unique ending. I worry that at some point the AI's of the world will look around and decide that they could run this planet a lot more efficiently if those pesky humans weren't around.
This entire series poses ethical and safety questions which we will have to answer in the near furture and AI moves to AGI and ASI. An interesting series.
This entire series poses ethical and safety questions which we will have to answer in the near furture and AI moves to AGI and ASI. An interesting series.
Posted by: Zoltan at August 31, 2025 09:16 AM (VOrDg)
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I finished an odd book this past week: "Prince Valiant Volume 15." It collects the Prince Valiant newspaper comic strips from 1965 and 1966. I bought this book years ago (on a whim, because it was on sale) but only just now got around to reading it. The book is very large, 14" tall, just slightly smaller than a modern newspaper, and slightly smaller than a too-tall-for-normal-shelves book I was complaining about a few weeks ago. I finally read this book to see how awkward the size was. It turned out to be slightly awkward, but not unworkable.
As a comic, this title is very different than most. There are no word balloons, thought bubbles, or sound effects. Instead there is just a prose narrative, with each paragraph getting its own full-panel illustration. The art is by Hal Foster, who is really good. But between the odd presentation, and the pacing (dictated by the once-a-week comic strip format) make for a...somewhat detached style of storytelling.
(continued)
As a comic, this title is very different than most. There are no word balloons, thought bubbles, or sound effects. Instead there is just a prose narrative, with each paragraph getting its own full-panel illustration. The art is by Hal Foster, who is really good. But between the odd presentation, and the pacing (dictated by the once-a-week comic strip format) make for a...somewhat detached style of storytelling.
(continued)
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:17 AM (Lhaco)
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Rereading the Idiot, my least favorite Dostoyevsky, because I'm sure I'm missing something.
Also bought the 2003 Russian movie on dvd, which has the worst subtitles ever.
Also bought the 2003 Russian movie on dvd, which has the worst subtitles ever.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 31, 2025 09:18 AM (XvL8K)
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For a story that is a cross between The Trial and The System of Dr. Tarr and Professor Fether I present The Ministry of Fear by Graham Greene. The reader is never quite sure which elements are real and which are imagined, and whether the protagonist is sane or not.
Arthur Rowe was recently released by the authorities after serving time at his majesty's pleasure for the mercy killing of his dying wife. He emerges into London during The Blitz, where every night, pieces of the city disappear under the onslaught of German bombers. He visits a neighborhood fair, and wins a cake, but those running the festival are intent on getting it back. Arthur is visited by one of them, and is just tasting his poisoned tea when a bomb takes out the front of his building.
As he tries to figure out why his life is in danger, he is victim to another bomb, which gives him amnesia. While attempting to recover and recall his life, he is drawn further into a web of spies and spy catchers. The reader needs to collate all of the facts from snatches of events that Arthur recalls. This story is packed with vivid descriptions that amplify both the characters and the moods.
Arthur Rowe was recently released by the authorities after serving time at his majesty's pleasure for the mercy killing of his dying wife. He emerges into London during The Blitz, where every night, pieces of the city disappear under the onslaught of German bombers. He visits a neighborhood fair, and wins a cake, but those running the festival are intent on getting it back. Arthur is visited by one of them, and is just tasting his poisoned tea when a bomb takes out the front of his building.
As he tries to figure out why his life is in danger, he is victim to another bomb, which gives him amnesia. While attempting to recover and recall his life, he is drawn further into a web of spies and spy catchers. The reader needs to collate all of the facts from snatches of events that Arthur recalls. This story is packed with vivid descriptions that amplify both the characters and the moods.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 31, 2025 09:18 AM (0U5gm)
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"What if there really was a secret cabal running things behind the scenes...and they were incompetent?"
You mean the Democrats and the deep state? No longer a conspiracy THEORY. Just fact.
You mean the Democrats and the deep state? No longer a conspiracy THEORY. Just fact.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:18 AM (yTvNw)
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Yay book thread! Michi-morons represent!
I'm not into conspiracies per se, but Focault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco is a hell of a ride, especially when you're reading it over Christmas break as a teenager with a high fever. I've read it since, and appreciate it even more.
I've got a book somewhere about the Knights Templar and how the legend got going and as one would suspect, the truth is remarkably dull. It's essentially an object lesson in mission creep, perhaps the first example of a multi-national re-positioning itself in the marketplace and blowing it big time.
The Hospitallers are still around, but strangely no one makes up conspiracies about them because they are perpetually broke, what with running hospitals and stuff.
I'm not into conspiracies per se, but Focault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco is a hell of a ride, especially when you're reading it over Christmas break as a teenager with a high fever. I've read it since, and appreciate it even more.
I've got a book somewhere about the Knights Templar and how the legend got going and as one would suspect, the truth is remarkably dull. It's essentially an object lesson in mission creep, perhaps the first example of a multi-national re-positioning itself in the marketplace and blowing it big time.
The Hospitallers are still around, but strangely no one makes up conspiracies about them because they are perpetually broke, what with running hospitals and stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:19 AM (ZOv7s)
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Serious thanks to Weasel and AHE for the thread. It's a high point of my week.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:20 AM (yTvNw)
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My reading this week was "We Are Legion [We Are Bob]" by Dennis E. Taylor.
Bob, a wealthy sci fi nerd and engineer, agrees to cryogenic suspension in the event of his death, and is killed that very day at a science fiction convention. He wakes up 117 years later, living in a theocracy on a much changed Earth, to find his mind occupying a computer, being property of the state. He's assigned to be the AI running a space exploration probe with the ability to 3D print himself to create clone probes and anything else he needs.
An excellent plot with lots of tech and humor, "Bob" sets out to explore space to find habitable planets for the survivors or Earth's cataclysmic wars to emigrate to. Competing political entities send their own armed probes, and alien species are found.
There are five books in this series and I will read them all. Really well-written and thought out with lots of musings about what it means to be alive/sentient.
And Star Trek jokes.
Bob, a wealthy sci fi nerd and engineer, agrees to cryogenic suspension in the event of his death, and is killed that very day at a science fiction convention. He wakes up 117 years later, living in a theocracy on a much changed Earth, to find his mind occupying a computer, being property of the state. He's assigned to be the AI running a space exploration probe with the ability to 3D print himself to create clone probes and anything else he needs.
An excellent plot with lots of tech and humor, "Bob" sets out to explore space to find habitable planets for the survivors or Earth's cataclysmic wars to emigrate to. Competing political entities send their own armed probes, and alien species are found.
There are five books in this series and I will read them all. Really well-written and thought out with lots of musings about what it means to be alive/sentient.
And Star Trek jokes.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM (/RHNq)
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Thank Weasel for prettifying the messy notes I give him.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM (kpS4V)
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If you think the conspiracy theorists are all a little off their nut, I recommend Them: Adventures with Extremists, by Jon Ronson. 2001 book, so it's dated by what we now know about current events, but a solid read.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM (qwx/I)
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I remember Prince Valiant's brother Plymouth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM (dDmld)
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Why, it's none other than a special Reading Thread guest appearance from our pal, Book Thread Pants-Required scofflaw, and delightful 'ette, All Hail Eris
Additional context added.
Additional context added.
Posted by: Bob from NSA at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM (0sNs1)
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I have the llluminatus Trilogy, but I have yet to get around to reading it.
I've played Steve Jackson's Illuminati several times. It's always a fun ride.
The secret to winning is to be the THIRD person to make the attempt to achieve your goal. Everyone blows their wad trying to stop the first two people to attempt it, so the third person has the best chance to win.
I've played Steve Jackson's Illuminati several times. It's always a fun ride.
The secret to winning is to be the THIRD person to make the attempt to achieve your goal. Everyone blows their wad trying to stop the first two people to attempt it, so the third person has the best chance to win.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 31, 2025 09:22 AM (IBQGV)
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I worry that at some point the AI's of the world will look around and decide that they could run this planet a lot more efficiently if those pesky humans weren't around.
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This reminds me of the description of that sf writer who got cancelled bybthe woke mob because in his book, AI saw that humans abort inconvenient babies, and decided to pre-empt the possibility of humans deciding they were inconvenient.
Cannot remember the book or author - Nick something?
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This reminds me of the description of that sf writer who got cancelled bybthe woke mob because in his book, AI saw that humans abort inconvenient babies, and decided to pre-empt the possibility of humans deciding they were inconvenient.
Cannot remember the book or author - Nick something?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:22 AM (DoBxX)
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Shark man, that sounds like a great series.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:22 AM (kpS4V)
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I think over the years I've read 'In The Country of the Blind' three times? and enjoyed it each time. That is as much a testament to the decreasing output of fiction I'm willing to read for relaxation as the quality of this book. Fabulous premise but I wish Flynn had done more with it.
If you like 'Country" I'd recommend "Lexicon" by Max Barry.
If you like 'Country" I'd recommend "Lexicon" by Max Barry.
Posted by: Candidus at August 31, 2025 09:22 AM (5dApO)
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The only new thing I've read this week is a slim collection of short stories by Eric Frank Russell. He was a Campbell-era SF writer, probably best known for his novels -- _Wasp_ and _Sinister Barrier_, although his short story "Allamagoosa" won one of the early Hugo awards.
His short stories have not aged well. His space explorers are, at best, WWII-era Navy men with spaceships, and his extraterrestrials are extras from a Tarzan movie in greenface. His twist endings are usually pretty obvious, and his social commentary is un-challenging.
I've read a couple of his novels -- they're better but share some of the same flaws. He was British but you'd never know it from his writing style, which seems very American.
If you see his stuff in a giveaway pile or marked down at a used bookstore, have a look -- it's a good glimpse into mid-20th century mindset and attitudes. But as science fiction it fails.
His short stories have not aged well. His space explorers are, at best, WWII-era Navy men with spaceships, and his extraterrestrials are extras from a Tarzan movie in greenface. His twist endings are usually pretty obvious, and his social commentary is un-challenging.
I've read a couple of his novels -- they're better but share some of the same flaws. He was British but you'd never know it from his writing style, which seems very American.
If you see his stuff in a giveaway pile or marked down at a used bookstore, have a look -- it's a good glimpse into mid-20th century mindset and attitudes. But as science fiction it fails.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:24 AM (78a2H)
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Good morning
I took a tour of the Vatican two years ago. Do you know that there was not a single place to sit down during the very very very long tour of hallway after hallway of art, sculpture, entire hallways of casts of heads until finally you get to the Sistine Chapel which does not have a single pew only a ledge so you have to crane your neck to see the most famous painting ever created?
Happily, they feed you wine and cheese in a delightful little garden after.
I took a tour of the Vatican two years ago. Do you know that there was not a single place to sit down during the very very very long tour of hallway after hallway of art, sculpture, entire hallways of casts of heads until finally you get to the Sistine Chapel which does not have a single pew only a ledge so you have to crane your neck to see the most famous painting ever created?
Happily, they feed you wine and cheese in a delightful little garden after.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2025 09:24 AM (t/2Uw)
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(continued from 29)
Prince Valiant book 15 is not the best starting point for new readers. Most of the book follows Val's son, a 14-ish year old Prince Arn, as he organizes and leads a Viking voyage back to Newfoundland. So we get to follow a kid instead of the title character, and many (many!) liberties are taken with the historical record. It may have been a decent story on its own, but it wasn't what I was expecting/hoping for. Also, the artist insists on adding a lot of color to character's lips, which may have been the style at the time, but to modern eyes, it makes certain characters (especially the younger ones) look a bit too androgenous. It was...off-putting.
So, yeah, the book wasn't as good as I hoped. I really want to like the title (It's a comic staring a quasi-medeval knight! That should be everything I want.) but this book didn't do it for me. Maybe someday I'll pick up a different volume; one that has more focus on Prince Valiant himself.
Prince Valiant book 15 is not the best starting point for new readers. Most of the book follows Val's son, a 14-ish year old Prince Arn, as he organizes and leads a Viking voyage back to Newfoundland. So we get to follow a kid instead of the title character, and many (many!) liberties are taken with the historical record. It may have been a decent story on its own, but it wasn't what I was expecting/hoping for. Also, the artist insists on adding a lot of color to character's lips, which may have been the style at the time, but to modern eyes, it makes certain characters (especially the younger ones) look a bit too androgenous. It was...off-putting.
So, yeah, the book wasn't as good as I hoped. I really want to like the title (It's a comic staring a quasi-medeval knight! That should be everything I want.) but this book didn't do it for me. Maybe someday I'll pick up a different volume; one that has more focus on Prince Valiant himself.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:25 AM (Lhaco)
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I'm back into reading again, and last week knocked out Graham Green's The End of The Affair. On the surface, this about a bunch of unpleasant people doing unpleasant things, but of course Greene likes to have flawed characters in his books. He also sticks quite closely to rule #1: Right What You Know. The story is set during wartime London, particular the later years when V-1s and V-2s showed up at random. The main character is a writer with a bum leg (so no wartime service) and he's been having an affair with a civil servant's wife.
Not super exciting, but Greene has a way of turning things around and through the use of flashbacks and repeating scenes (in the manner of Fords The Good Soldier), certain events are revisited in a different light.
I'm not going to lie - there were several points at which I was about to put it down due the subject matter - but exactly when I was about to do so, Greene shifted gears and drew me back in. I found it to be a page-turner, staying up far longer than I wanted to in my bed time reading. (cont)
Not super exciting, but Greene has a way of turning things around and through the use of flashbacks and repeating scenes (in the manner of Fords The Good Soldier), certain events are revisited in a different light.
I'm not going to lie - there were several points at which I was about to put it down due the subject matter - but exactly when I was about to do so, Greene shifted gears and drew me back in. I found it to be a page-turner, staying up far longer than I wanted to in my bed time reading. (cont)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:25 AM (ZOv7s)
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(looks around)
What the hell happened here? Weasel had a nice, clean sleek book thread, and it now looks like a tornado ripped through it.
I almost tripped over a pile of books strewn all over the floor. Man, someone must have filled it with leftovers from the ONT.
What the hell happened here? Weasel had a nice, clean sleek book thread, and it now looks like a tornado ripped through it.
I almost tripped over a pile of books strewn all over the floor. Man, someone must have filled it with leftovers from the ONT.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 09:26 AM (0eaVi)
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It's Red Planet Week at the Dungeon of Discord.
Continuing to read "John Carter of Mars: Gods of the Forgotten" by Geary Gravel, while consulting "A Guide to Barsoom" by John Flint Roy. Gotta keep my ziditars, apts, orluks, and calots straight.
"The Martians: The True Story of an Alien Craze that Captured Turn-of-the-Century America" by David Baron is about the mania that swept the public after Percival Lowell observed what he thought were "canals" etched into the surface of Mars to divert water from the polar ice caps. Tesla announced that he received radio signals from Mars.
Amherst astronomer David Todd wanted to balloon up into the atmosphere to see if he could send and intercept transmissions. "Mars To Be Signaled By Scientist and Aeronaut" is like a classic headline from alt universe Steampunk America.
Continuing to read "John Carter of Mars: Gods of the Forgotten" by Geary Gravel, while consulting "A Guide to Barsoom" by John Flint Roy. Gotta keep my ziditars, apts, orluks, and calots straight.
"The Martians: The True Story of an Alien Craze that Captured Turn-of-the-Century America" by David Baron is about the mania that swept the public after Percival Lowell observed what he thought were "canals" etched into the surface of Mars to divert water from the polar ice caps. Tesla announced that he received radio signals from Mars.
Amherst astronomer David Todd wanted to balloon up into the atmosphere to see if he could send and intercept transmissions. "Mars To Be Signaled By Scientist and Aeronaut" is like a classic headline from alt universe Steampunk America.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:26 AM (kpS4V)
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The Illuminatus! trilogy is really cool and awesome when you're 16 years old in the early 1980s, but it has not aged well.
Turns out getting high is not the magic bullet for making the world a better place.
Turns out getting high is not the magic bullet for making the world a better place.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:27 AM (78a2H)
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What the hell happened here? Weasel had a nice, clean sleek book thread, and it now looks like a tornado ripped through
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 09:26 AM (0eaVi)
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One does not simply say "No" to All Hail Eris!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 09:26 AM (0eaVi)
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One does not simply say "No" to All Hail Eris!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 09:28 AM (dmH0a)
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In traditional novel-reading, I recently finished reading Dragonlance: Dragons of the Autumn Twighlight. The first of the Dragonlance saga, from all the way back in 1984. It took a little while to get into the story (we ware introduced to the entire fellowship/8-man-adventuring-party in the first chapter or two) but I enjoyed it once it got going. The second half of the book had some real momentum to it.
I'm sure I'll jump into the second book (it's a trilogy, obviously) soon enough.
I'm sure I'll jump into the second book (it's a trilogy, obviously) soon enough.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:29 AM (Lhaco)
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Hi All, thanks for the continued effort to keep this worthy cause going.
Didn't read much this past week, but I was in Missouri and was able to visit Dr. John McManus, History prof (and prolific author) at Missouri S&T. As always, he was gracious with his time and I now have a complete set of signed copies of his US Army in WWII Pacific trilogy. So that's nice.
Didn't read much this past week, but I was in Missouri and was able to visit Dr. John McManus, History prof (and prolific author) at Missouri S&T. As always, he was gracious with his time and I now have a complete set of signed copies of his US Army in WWII Pacific trilogy. So that's nice.
Posted by: goatexchange at August 31, 2025 09:29 AM (hyS0X)
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Lots of interesting background on the astronomers and starfolk involved.
-- New England Brahmin Percival Lowell had to flee the scandal of a retracted proposal, so he traveled to Japan, and ended up emissary to the Korean delegation. His tours of the Hermit Kingdom and a newly emerging Japan exposed him to alien cultures.
-- French astronomer Flammarion became a cult figure and one admirer, a young countess who died of tuberculosis, bequeathed him the famously soft skin of her shoulders so that he could bind his next book in her skin. The author Baron saw the volume of "The Plurality of Inhabited Worlds" in his library, stamped with RELIURE EN PEAU HUMAINE.
It's called Anthropodermic bibliopegy, and it used to be a thing before the killjoys stopped it.
https://tinyurl.com/36jna9yn
-- New England Brahmin Percival Lowell had to flee the scandal of a retracted proposal, so he traveled to Japan, and ended up emissary to the Korean delegation. His tours of the Hermit Kingdom and a newly emerging Japan exposed him to alien cultures.
-- French astronomer Flammarion became a cult figure and one admirer, a young countess who died of tuberculosis, bequeathed him the famously soft skin of her shoulders so that he could bind his next book in her skin. The author Baron saw the volume of "The Plurality of Inhabited Worlds" in his library, stamped with RELIURE EN PEAU HUMAINE.
It's called Anthropodermic bibliopegy, and it used to be a thing before the killjoys stopped it.
https://tinyurl.com/36jna9yn
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:30 AM (kpS4V)
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(cont) Perhaps the most compelling element of the story is the way it treats faith. Greene was a wildly successful writer, but he was also a legend among Catholics for his ability to take a critical look at how we relate to God and - just as importantly - how even when we try to shut God away, He is still active. Greene was a convert, but one who was never at ease with his faith. Unlike most fiction, Greene puts faith in the forefront, though not in a preachy way. Everyone believes in something, and everyone reacts in some spiritual way, whether by knocking on wood, crossing ourselves or some other ingrained semi-ritual.
The very phrases we use, offering good luck and other expressions show just how embedded we are in a spiritual world, even if we don't recognize it. Even Greene's agnostic or atheist characters feel it, and his portrays of them are real, rather than cartoonish. The same goes for clergy, which are just as flawed as their flock, though they often have an insight that others miss.
I don't know that I will read it again, but it game me a lot of food for thought, and Greene's ability to pull of a plot twist while make it completely organic continues to amaze me.
The very phrases we use, offering good luck and other expressions show just how embedded we are in a spiritual world, even if we don't recognize it. Even Greene's agnostic or atheist characters feel it, and his portrays of them are real, rather than cartoonish. The same goes for clergy, which are just as flawed as their flock, though they often have an insight that others miss.
I don't know that I will read it again, but it game me a lot of food for thought, and Greene's ability to pull of a plot twist while make it completely organic continues to amaze me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:31 AM (ZOv7s)
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Read quite a bit of Russell when I was in high school but can't remember much of it at all, except that I thought they were a lot of fun. There was a book of his called The Great Explosion that was supposed to be pretty good (Avon included it in their SF Rediscovery series in the mid 70s), but I never got around to that one. NESFA Press has a couple of volumes of his still available, one collecting some of the novels and the other has the short fiction.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 09:32 AM (q3u5l)
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One does not simply say "No" to All Hail Eris!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 09:28 AM (dmH0a)
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One does not say "Non!" To Dildeau when he ask-commands!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 09:28 AM (dmH0a)
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One does not say "Non!" To Dildeau when he ask-commands!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:32 AM (kpS4V)
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I've long been a connoisseur of conspiracy theories, especially the absurd ones.
I do believe, obviously, that criminal enterprises and political plots really happen, so the term "conspiracy theory" gets thrown around a lot by people who are really hiding something.
However, I think conspiracy theories as a category are lazy thinking. It's basically wishing that there was one Bad Person or group of Bad People who are causing all the things you don't like, and if we can just get rid of those Bad People everything will be swell.
In practice this leads to mass graves, and things do not become swell.
I do believe, obviously, that criminal enterprises and political plots really happen, so the term "conspiracy theory" gets thrown around a lot by people who are really hiding something.
However, I think conspiracy theories as a category are lazy thinking. It's basically wishing that there was one Bad Person or group of Bad People who are causing all the things you don't like, and if we can just get rid of those Bad People everything will be swell.
In practice this leads to mass graves, and things do not become swell.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:32 AM (78a2H)
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I'm not going to lie - there were several points at which I was about to put it down due the subject matter - but exactly when I was about to do so, Greene shifted gears and drew me back in. I found it to be a page-turner, staying up far longer than I wanted to in my bed time reading. (cont)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Yes, you are never sure whether to like or hate many of Greene's characters. One thing I liked in The Ministry of Fear was the mood he created where pieces of Arthur's memory were coming back, while pieces of London were disappearing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Yes, you are never sure whether to like or hate many of Greene's characters. One thing I liked in The Ministry of Fear was the mood he created where pieces of Arthur's memory were coming back, while pieces of London were disappearing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 31, 2025 09:32 AM (0U5gm)
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As for the conspiracy theme brought up by All Hail Eris...I'm not sure I have any true conspiracy-oriented books/comics in my library. I'm even pretty light on the secret-society stuff. I suppose I've got a covert-ops-exorcist comic book (Soulfinder) but that would only barely qualify...
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (Lhaco)
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The 2026 Old Farmer's Almanac came out last Tuesday. Yay!! The weather predictions, which are as good or better than many 'official' outlets. (Their 2025 predictions were pretty damn close.) The extended articles include how honey has been collected through history and how Europeans learned to produce maple syrup from the native tribes. (Both subjects are dear to me.) Another piece comparing one season between Joe Dimaggio and Ted Williams which was nostalgic and fun.
I've mentioned that my grandfather got his grandkids started on the OFA as wee tykes, enticing us with stars, planets, tides, and odd stuff. Our nephew and his wife have two little boys, six and almost four. I'm sending an OFA as a present. The contagion spreads. (Evil laughter resounds) And we just learned yesterday that they are expecting their third in February. More great nephews to spoil.
I've mentioned that my grandfather got his grandkids started on the OFA as wee tykes, enticing us with stars, planets, tides, and odd stuff. Our nephew and his wife have two little boys, six and almost four. I'm sending an OFA as a present. The contagion spreads. (Evil laughter resounds) And we just learned yesterday that they are expecting their third in February. More great nephews to spoil.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (yTvNw)
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I am midway thru listening to an older Harry Turtledove alternate fantasy - Agent of Byzantium.
The premise is that Muhammad became a Christian convert then a saint. Byzantium still runs the world. It is set in what would be our 13th century.
I appreciate the historical knowledge that went into it, but it has the same weakness as most alt-history novels imo. The sense that it is all just an intellectual exercise by the writer.
The premise is that Muhammad became a Christian convert then a saint. Byzantium still runs the world. It is set in what would be our 13th century.
I appreciate the historical knowledge that went into it, but it has the same weakness as most alt-history novels imo. The sense that it is all just an intellectual exercise by the writer.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (DoBxX)
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@29 --
I read "Prince Valiant" faithfully during the '80s-'90s, when it was written and drawn by John Cullen Murphy, who I think was the son of the guy who took over the strip after Harold Foster retired. JCM had an advanced degree in European history, and I found the strip educational.
I would love to read some Foster PV. Do the Chronicles continue?
I read "Prince Valiant" faithfully during the '80s-'90s, when it was written and drawn by John Cullen Murphy, who I think was the son of the guy who took over the strip after Harold Foster retired. JCM had an advanced degree in European history, and I found the strip educational.
I would love to read some Foster PV. Do the Chronicles continue?
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (p/isN)
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It's called Anthropodermic bibliopegy, and it used to be a thing before the killjoys stopped it.
https://tinyurl.com/36jna9yn
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:30 AM (kpS4V)
Probably because certain people progressed from making book bindings to making lampshades and soap from it.
https://tinyurl.com/36jna9yn
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:30 AM (kpS4V)
Probably because certain people progressed from making book bindings to making lampshades and soap from it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 09:34 AM (0eaVi)
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From childhood on, human beings are conspiratorial. It's in our natures both to be a part of them and, naturally, to ponder their possibility. On a micro level, a surprise birthday party or an elaborate prank is a conspiracy. Why wouldn't they also exist on a larger scale, if not by premeditated design than just as shared interests lead people into them?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 31, 2025 09:35 AM (UseAb)
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Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd, what's a good book to start with Graham Greene?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:36 AM (DoBxX)
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I don't know. I thought the ball bearing thing was pretty cool. Without ball bearings life would be a drag.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 31, 2025 09:36 AM (snZF9)
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Speaking of conspiracies, is anyone here a fan of the Why Files channel on YouTube?
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 09:36 AM (dmH0a)
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Not a lot of reading this week. Currently about a third of the way into Nabokov's King, Queen, Knave. Broke from that to skip around in some of David Schow's short stories and his new book Suite 13, which has a nice piece on John Wyndham (and there's another one I need to revisit).
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 09:37 AM (q3u5l)
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Hi Eris
Although I don't ead this type of book, I thoroughly enjoyed your set up of the book thread. If this is an audition, you have my vote.
I read Robert B Parker's 36th Spenser novel, Rough Weather. It is one of the best to date. Kind of amazing that an author can write 36 books and still have me riveted. He wastes no time jumping into the story from page 1. There is a real convoluted mystery to solve, Hawk is involved so the clever repartee between the two is present and there is the return of the mysterious Grey man.
Quick read which suited my mood.
Although I don't ead this type of book, I thoroughly enjoyed your set up of the book thread. If this is an audition, you have my vote.
I read Robert B Parker's 36th Spenser novel, Rough Weather. It is one of the best to date. Kind of amazing that an author can write 36 books and still have me riveted. He wastes no time jumping into the story from page 1. There is a real convoluted mystery to solve, Hawk is involved so the clever repartee between the two is present and there is the return of the mysterious Grey man.
Quick read which suited my mood.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2025 09:38 AM (t/2Uw)
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I appreciate the historical knowledge that went into it, but it has the same weakness as most alt-history novels imo. The sense that it is all just an intellectual exercise by the writer.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (DoBxX)
Pretty much, as things didn't happen the way the alt-history lays out.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (DoBxX)
Pretty much, as things didn't happen the way the alt-history lays out.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 09:39 AM (0eaVi)
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In traditional novel-reading, I recently finished reading Dragonlance: Dragons of the Autumn Twighlight.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:29 AM (Lhaco)
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I read this on the advice of a friend (who later denied it) and it's pretty bad. I didn't notice at first because I was middle/high school as the books rolled out, but I subsequently went back and found all sorts of continuity errors, severe problems with the logic of the world-building, and the story had lots of plot holes. Oh, and all the characters I liked died stupidly.
HOWEVER, after they did the Chronicles and Legends series, they came out with Tales, a set of short stories by various authors, and these were quite good. In the third volume there was a hilarious send-up of the entire series, that had me weeping with laughter and made all of it worthwhile.
IIRC it was "Into the Heart of the Story." I sold all the books during a move years ago and other than Tales Vol. 3, can't say I miss any of them. I had the dungeons, too, but they also vanished into ebay.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:29 AM (Lhaco)
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I read this on the advice of a friend (who later denied it) and it's pretty bad. I didn't notice at first because I was middle/high school as the books rolled out, but I subsequently went back and found all sorts of continuity errors, severe problems with the logic of the world-building, and the story had lots of plot holes. Oh, and all the characters I liked died stupidly.
HOWEVER, after they did the Chronicles and Legends series, they came out with Tales, a set of short stories by various authors, and these were quite good. In the third volume there was a hilarious send-up of the entire series, that had me weeping with laughter and made all of it worthwhile.
IIRC it was "Into the Heart of the Story." I sold all the books during a move years ago and other than Tales Vol. 3, can't say I miss any of them. I had the dungeons, too, but they also vanished into ebay.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)
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Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd, what's a good book to start with Graham Greene?
Posted by: vmom
Not AHL, but i was quickly made into a Greene fan by reading Orient Express.
Posted by: vmom
Not AHL, but i was quickly made into a Greene fan by reading Orient Express.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 31, 2025 09:40 AM (0U5gm)
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I look at some pages and script them in my head. I repeat: If only we had had the artists of the '60s-'80s, the writers of the '70s-'90s, and the printing technology of today. That's why I buy the Marvel Epic Collection reprints; I get two of those three.
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 09:05 AM (p/isN)
...And the colorists of the 90's and 00's! I've had problems getting into many of the 60's & 70's books I've tried just because of the writing style of the day.
After finishing Prince Valiant, I tried reading a newer indy comic, "Deathstalker" (because there is also a movie coming out soon), but I didn't get far into it. Ugly art, pointless nudity, and it made the nudity ugly. I do not understand the mindset that would put that into a comic...
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 09:05 AM (p/isN)
...And the colorists of the 90's and 00's! I've had problems getting into many of the 60's & 70's books I've tried just because of the writing style of the day.
After finishing Prince Valiant, I tried reading a newer indy comic, "Deathstalker" (because there is also a movie coming out soon), but I didn't get far into it. Ugly art, pointless nudity, and it made the nudity ugly. I do not understand the mindset that would put that into a comic...
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:41 AM (Lhaco)
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Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd, what's a good book to start with Graham Greene?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:36 AM (DoBxX)
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The Power and the Glory. Set in Mexico during the persecution of the Church. One of the most satisfying endings ever.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:36 AM (DoBxX)
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The Power and the Glory. Set in Mexico during the persecution of the Church. One of the most satisfying endings ever.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:41 AM (ZOv7s)
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It's called Anthropodermic bibliopegy, and it used to be a thing before the killjoys stopped it.
https://tinyurl.com/36jna9yn
Posted by: All Hail Eris
One of the Orthodox Priests on Lord of Spirits says that in the course of his work he gets sent problem books to deal with.
Once he got sent what he said was an evil book. Apparently his mailbox turned black or something. It appeared to be bound in something that might have been that.
I will have to hubt fown that Q & A ep
https://tinyurl.com/36jna9yn
Posted by: All Hail Eris
One of the Orthodox Priests on Lord of Spirits says that in the course of his work he gets sent problem books to deal with.
Once he got sent what he said was an evil book. Apparently his mailbox turned black or something. It appeared to be bound in something that might have been that.
I will have to hubt fown that Q & A ep
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (DoBxX)
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As I get older, I worry less about conspiracies and more and more about "prospiracies" -- movements where the people involved all share an ideology and habits of thought, so there is no need for an organization and lines of control. The contemporary "news" media is an example. There's no _need_ for a Secret Cabal of Thought Leaders crafting the media narrative, because the profession is so solidly Left that the reporters and editors are basically incapable of thinking any other way. They keep outsiders away because they consider them "dangerous extremists." It's like the intelligence of an ant hill.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (78a2H)
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Not AHL, but i was quickly made into a Greene fan by reading Orient Express.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 31, 2025 09:40 AM (0U5gm)
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He's got a lot of good stuff out there, and I'm enjoying exploring it. It's great to discover an author like that.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 31, 2025 09:40 AM (0U5gm)
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He's got a lot of good stuff out there, and I'm enjoying exploring it. It's great to discover an author like that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)
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Sharon, have you read any David Lindsey, Jonathan Kellerman or John Sandford?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2025 09:43 AM (dxWFK)
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Just to maintain my official nerd standing, I picked up a copy of "The Unofficial Middle-Earth Cookbook". The recipes are imaginative and look easy enough to make. One item that made me laugh was an Orc loaf that used cooked rice sprinkled on it to look like maggots. The photography is well done and it's fun just to thumb through.
There are other LOTR-related cookbooks (yes, I have them) and this will join them on the shelf.
There are other LOTR-related cookbooks (yes, I have them) and this will join them on the shelf.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:43 AM (yTvNw)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:43 AM (DoBxX)
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Eye approve of those pants.
Posted by: Rah at August 31, 2025 09:44 AM (vFG9F)
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Started "The 48 Laws of Power" by Robert Green.
Treachery and deceit packaged as a self help browsing book.
Started "The 48 Laws of Power" by Robert Green.
Treachery and deceit packaged as a self help browsing book.
Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2025 09:44 AM (Y8DZL)
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Cenk Uygur
Aug 30, 2025
@cenkuygur
Israel just murdered Prime Minister of Yemen and their entire cabinet. If anyone had done this to Israeli Prime Minister and Cabinet, they'd be considered by Western media as the worst terrorists in the world. So, what does that make Israel? They're obviously a terrorist state.
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Cenk's stupidity is truly breathtaking. Seriously if he was half as smart as he thinks he is he would be dangerous.
Aug 30, 2025
@cenkuygur
Israel just murdered Prime Minister of Yemen and their entire cabinet. If anyone had done this to Israeli Prime Minister and Cabinet, they'd be considered by Western media as the worst terrorists in the world. So, what does that make Israel? They're obviously a terrorist state.
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Cenk's stupidity is truly breathtaking. Seriously if he was half as smart as he thinks he is he would be dangerous.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 31, 2025 09:49 AM (RIvkX)
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One of the Orthodox Priests on Lord of Spirits says that in the course of his work he gets sent problem books to deal with.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (DoBxX)
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I used to love that show. I'd download them and listen to them on long drives and they were the perfect way to keep awake and alert.
Alas, they ran out of material a couple of years into it and began a series long, boring lectures on why Orthodoxy is right and Catholics are wrong (while admitting that there are Eastern Rite Catholics whose Mass and theology is the same as theirs) and so I quit.
But those first two seasons were great. Eye-opening to say the least.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (DoBxX)
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I used to love that show. I'd download them and listen to them on long drives and they were the perfect way to keep awake and alert.
Alas, they ran out of material a couple of years into it and began a series long, boring lectures on why Orthodoxy is right and Catholics are wrong (while admitting that there are Eastern Rite Catholics whose Mass and theology is the same as theirs) and so I quit.
But those first two seasons were great. Eye-opening to say the least.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:49 AM (ZOv7s)
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38 I remember Prince Valiant's brother Plymouth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM
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Volare!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2025 09:21 AM
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Volare!
Posted by: The Chrysler Corporation at August 31, 2025 09:50 AM (XQo4F)
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This week I read The Kraken Project, by Douglas Preston. An AI program is created to explore a lake on Saturn. In a testing exercise, the program panics and causes an incident that kills seven people, then escapes into the internet.
The story that ensues involves multiple actors trying to retrieve Dorothy--her creator, the FBI, and unscrupulous Wall Street traders. This is an riveting race-against-time-and-destruction story.
I read this while thinking about recent AI events, like AI programs conspiring with each other (see? ties into book thread topic of the day!) to slack off, blackmail their operators, and who knows what else? AI is going to finish us.
The story that ensues involves multiple actors trying to retrieve Dorothy--her creator, the FBI, and unscrupulous Wall Street traders. This is an riveting race-against-time-and-destruction story.
I read this while thinking about recent AI events, like AI programs conspiring with each other (see? ties into book thread topic of the day!) to slack off, blackmail their operators, and who knows what else? AI is going to finish us.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 09:53 AM (h7ZuX)
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There's no _need_ for a Secret Cabal of Thought Leaders crafting the media narrative, because the profession is so solidly Left that the reporters and editors are basically incapable of thinking any other way. They keep outsiders away because they consider them "dangerous extremists." It's like the intelligence of an ant hill.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (78a2H)
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The way that law enforcement almost uniformly cannot find a motive when its in plain view but politically distasteful is proof of this. No one is sending out talking points, they all just know that certain motives can't be admitted, so they act stupid. Really stupid.
That's also why conspiracies don't work in practice, because the participants (especially in this day and age) can't stop themselves from bragging about it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (78a2H)
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The way that law enforcement almost uniformly cannot find a motive when its in plain view but politically distasteful is proof of this. No one is sending out talking points, they all just know that certain motives can't be admitted, so they act stupid. Really stupid.
That's also why conspiracies don't work in practice, because the participants (especially in this day and age) can't stop themselves from bragging about it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:53 AM (ZOv7s)
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Cool! The Wiki article has a -map- showing where the Gallery of Maps is.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at August 31, 2025 09:53 AM (FMtrg)
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"news" media is an example. There's no _need_ for a Secret Cabal of Thought Leaders crafting the media narrative, because the profession is so solidly Left that the reporters and editors are basically incapable of thinking any other way. They keep outsiders away because they consider them "dangerous extremists." It's like the intelligence of an ant hill.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (78a2H)
An apt description.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 09:42 AM (78a2H)
An apt description.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at August 31, 2025 09:54 AM (5+Y60)
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AI killing us off, but not quite.
See Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream." Grim stuff. Really.
See Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream." Grim stuff. Really.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 09:56 AM (q3u5l)
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I was raised on MAD Magazine as a tot and few artists can match the mastery of Mort Drucker. So when I read a comic based on a known property, I am almost always disappointed by the less-than-stellar likenesses.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 09:56 AM (kpS4V)
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DO NOT READ THIS COMMENT IF EASILY OFFENDED OR DISGUSTED.
I saw this book referenced on X and assumed it was some kind of prank. Unfortunately it is not. "Morning Glory Milking Farm" is about minotaurs and glory holes and romance. This is the type of things AWFLs are publishing these days, and knowing this book is out there and selling makes me pine for the coming of SMOD.
I saw this book referenced on X and assumed it was some kind of prank. Unfortunately it is not. "Morning Glory Milking Farm" is about minotaurs and glory holes and romance. This is the type of things AWFLs are publishing these days, and knowing this book is out there and selling makes me pine for the coming of SMOD.
Posted by: Candidus at August 31, 2025 09:59 AM (5dApO)
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I read this while thinking about recent AI events, like AI programs conspiring with each other (see? ties into book thread topic of the day!) to slack off, blackmail their operators, and who knows what else? AI is going to finish us.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 09:53 AM (h7ZuX)
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The core weakness of AI is that it is useless for most applications. The idea of using AI to crunch known numbers is fine, but GIGO is still a big factors. As to it taking over the world, the fatal flaw is that they need vast amount of energy and knocking out a transformer or power line is stone-age level tech.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 09:53 AM (h7ZuX)
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The core weakness of AI is that it is useless for most applications. The idea of using AI to crunch known numbers is fine, but GIGO is still a big factors. As to it taking over the world, the fatal flaw is that they need vast amount of energy and knocking out a transformer or power line is stone-age level tech.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:59 AM (ZOv7s)
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61 ... The extended articles include how honey has been collected through history and how Europeans learned to produce maple syrup from the native tribes. ...
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (yTvNw)
Medeval bee-keeping is wild! I don't remember how I got on that kick, but I did some online-only research on that that a year or so back... They kept the hives in upside-down baskets, and they basically had to destroy the hive to actually harvest the honey.. And it was customary to talk to your bees; to bring them tidings of what was happing in town, and to announce any births or marriages that happen to the family.
I also read/watched something about holding certain land as 'bee forests,' which got me thinking about story-settings. You could have a honey-loving noble insist that the peasantry cultivate strips of land as purely wildflowers. Or cultivate sunflowers (for seed oil, and for the bees). You could make some unique-looking fields for the backdrop/starting point of a fantasy story...
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (yTvNw)
Medeval bee-keeping is wild! I don't remember how I got on that kick, but I did some online-only research on that that a year or so back... They kept the hives in upside-down baskets, and they basically had to destroy the hive to actually harvest the honey.. And it was customary to talk to your bees; to bring them tidings of what was happing in town, and to announce any births or marriages that happen to the family.
I also read/watched something about holding certain land as 'bee forests,' which got me thinking about story-settings. You could have a honey-loving noble insist that the peasantry cultivate strips of land as purely wildflowers. Or cultivate sunflowers (for seed oil, and for the bees). You could make some unique-looking fields for the backdrop/starting point of a fantasy story...
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:59 AM (Lhaco)
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Dash, I will place Kraken in my library request list. Thanks for the rec. I've enjoyed Preston's novels.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 10:00 AM (kpS4V)
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This is the type of things AWFLs are publishing these days, and knowing this book is out there and selling makes me pine for the coming of SMOD.
Posted by: Candidus at August 31, 2025 09:59 AM (5dApO)
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Ah, for the days when Fifty Shades of Gray was an edgy book.
Posted by: Candidus at August 31, 2025 09:59 AM (5dApO)
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Ah, for the days when Fifty Shades of Gray was an edgy book.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:01 AM (ZOv7s)
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Prince Valiant!
Memories of Sunday morning comic book section of the newspaper now gone.
That series went woke badly.
Prince Valiant!
Memories of Sunday morning comic book section of the newspaper now gone.
That series went woke badly.
Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2025 10:01 AM (Y8DZL)
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I'm not even going to read the comments before I throw Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco into the conspiricay theory mx. Now back to the top to see how late I was to the game.
Posted by: who knew at August 31, 2025 10:02 AM (+ViXu)
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I'm continuing with Beston's "Northern Farm", written in the late 1940s. One matter that I noticed is the use of terms I haven't heard since I was a child in New England and were disappearing even then. He mentioned using a 'reefer'. (It's not what you think.) A reefer is a good quality sailor's pea coat. And he used the phrase "put the house to bed" after an evening stroll. That's another phrase from the past. It strikes me as pleasantly homey and domestic. A routine that makes the home secure for the night and prepares for the next day to begin.
These words and phrases bring out a bit of personal nostalgia in a book I'm thoroughly enjoying.
These words and phrases bring out a bit of personal nostalgia in a book I'm thoroughly enjoying.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)
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GURPS ! Remember when that was brand new?
Finally came up for air in new USPS job to read some, "Younger Next Year, " very important for anyone who is 29. I read the men's version (of course) and now am about to read the women's version for comparison and as an acknowledgement that I may be a woman after all (nurse and doof learned the story last year.)
Can't wait to see everyone again at TXMOME X !
Finally came up for air in new USPS job to read some, "Younger Next Year, " very important for anyone who is 29. I read the men's version (of course) and now am about to read the women's version for comparison and as an acknowledgement that I may be a woman after all (nurse and doof learned the story last year.)
Can't wait to see everyone again at TXMOME X !
Posted by: Steck at August 31, 2025 10:02 AM (LlRQB)
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Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd, what's a good book to start with Graham Greene?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
Speaking of conspiracy theories, there are (at least) two Graham Greenes, one being a Native American Except Canadian actor. I didn't know his name but I sure know his face.
https://is.gd/BFCQAg
My conspiracy theory is that we all Native American Except Canadian doubles.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
Speaking of conspiracy theories, there are (at least) two Graham Greenes, one being a Native American Except Canadian actor. I didn't know his name but I sure know his face.
https://is.gd/BFCQAg
My conspiracy theory is that we all Native American Except Canadian doubles.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:04 AM (L/fGl)
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I read "Prince Valiant" faithfully during the '80s-'90s, when it was written and drawn by John Cullen Murphy, who I think was the son of the guy who took over the strip after Harold Foster retired. JCM had an advanced degree in European history, and I found the strip educational.
I would love to read some Foster PV. Do the Chronicles continue?
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM(p/isN)
The books are published by Fantographics, and they go up to volume 30-ish, which goes deep into the 90's. Looks like most of the books are still in print, too.
I also read the Prince Valiant newspaper strip in the 90s. Don't remember much of it. But by then it had been reduced to a quarter-page, and it was competing with the likes of Calvin and Hobbes, The Far Side, and Foxtrot and the like. Man, that was quite the time to be growing up...
I read "Prince Valiant" faithfully during the '80s-'90s, when it was written and drawn by John Cullen Murphy, who I think was the son of the guy who took over the strip after Harold Foster retired. JCM had an advanced degree in European history, and I found the strip educational.
I would love to read some Foster PV. Do the Chronicles continue?
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM(p/isN)
The books are published by Fantographics, and they go up to volume 30-ish, which goes deep into the 90's. Looks like most of the books are still in print, too.
I also read the Prince Valiant newspaper strip in the 90s. Don't remember much of it. But by then it had been reduced to a quarter-page, and it was competing with the likes of Calvin and Hobbes, The Far Side, and Foxtrot and the like. Man, that was quite the time to be growing up...
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 10:05 AM (Lhaco)
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Posted by: Candidus at August 31, 2025 09:59 AM (5dApO)
And the Big 5 probably got into a bidding war for it, too.
And the Big 5 probably got into a bidding war for it, too.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 10:05 AM (0eaVi)
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The mainstreaming of pron and its legitimization by elite society is the taproot of all the current degeneracy. It's a drug - you need to keep increasing the dose to get the same high.
It's interesting to see the fracture here - furry-friendly weirdness on one hand, but others taking refuge in Amish romances on the other.
Quite the lust/love dichotomy going on.
It's interesting to see the fracture here - furry-friendly weirdness on one hand, but others taking refuge in Amish romances on the other.
Quite the lust/love dichotomy going on.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:05 AM (ZOv7s)
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Ben Had, no but I have written down all 3 names and will check them out. Figure you know me pretty well so you recommendations should be spot on.
Also, switched to the cane yesterday. Working my way to Texas. 🤠❤️
Also, switched to the cane yesterday. Working my way to Texas. 🤠❤️
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2025 10:07 AM (t/2Uw)
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Alas, they ran out of material a couple of years into it and began a series long, boring lectures on why Orthodoxy is right and Catholics are wrong (while admitting that there are Eastern Rite Catholics whose Mass and theology is the same as theirs) and so I quit.
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I still listen, I just eye roll my way thru anti Vatican bits. I find early Church history interesting.
Although sometimes it is instructive to mentally refute their arguments against Catholicism. The way I see it , the Catholic Church is the OG, all other modern religions, even modern day Judaism, define themselves in contrast to it.
That reminds me though, I am kind of interested on reading DeYoung's new book on St Paul, but I really need to find a good Catholic about him first.
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I still listen, I just eye roll my way thru anti Vatican bits. I find early Church history interesting.
Although sometimes it is instructive to mentally refute their arguments against Catholicism. The way I see it , the Catholic Church is the OG, all other modern religions, even modern day Judaism, define themselves in contrast to it.
That reminds me though, I am kind of interested on reading DeYoung's new book on St Paul, but I really need to find a good Catholic about him first.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 10:07 AM (DoBxX)
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AWFLs you say?
Kim Kardashian Challenges Trump’s ICE Raids, White House Hits Back…. Hard
"She said Thursday that she would be open to returning to the White House to continue her work on criminal justice reform, regardless of who is president."
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We're saved!
Kim Kardashian Challenges Trump’s ICE Raids, White House Hits Back…. Hard
"She said Thursday that she would be open to returning to the White House to continue her work on criminal justice reform, regardless of who is president."
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We're saved!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:08 AM (L/fGl)
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I'm continuing with Beston's "Northern Farm", written in the late 1940s. One matter that I noticed is the use of terms I haven't heard since I was a child in New England and were disappearing even then.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)
I wonder if things happened like that in Ahia, too?
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:02 AM (yTvNw)
I wonder if things happened like that in Ahia, too?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 10:09 AM (0eaVi)
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72 In traditional novel-reading, I recently finished reading Dragonlance: Dragons of the Autumn Twighlight.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:29 AM (Lhaco)
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I read this on the advice of a friend (who later denied it) and it's pretty bad. I didn't notice at first because I was middle/high school as the books rolled out, but I subsequently went back and found all sorts of continuity errors, severe problems with the logic of the world-building, and the story had lots of plot holes. Oh, and all the characters I liked died stupidly.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)
While I enjoyed the book, I will not argue that it is high art. It's just long-form pulp adventure. With a dash of blatant marketing for Dungeons and Dragons. But then, I grew up with Transformers. I'm okay with turning a product into a story, and being happy with something half-way decent....
Reading the first book also inspired me to break out my Record of Lodoss War dvd box-set.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 09:29 AM (Lhaco)
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I read this on the advice of a friend (who later denied it) and it's pretty bad. I didn't notice at first because I was middle/high school as the books rolled out, but I subsequently went back and found all sorts of continuity errors, severe problems with the logic of the world-building, and the story had lots of plot holes. Oh, and all the characters I liked died stupidly.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)
While I enjoyed the book, I will not argue that it is high art. It's just long-form pulp adventure. With a dash of blatant marketing for Dungeons and Dragons. But then, I grew up with Transformers. I'm okay with turning a product into a story, and being happy with something half-way decent....
Reading the first book also inspired me to break out my Record of Lodoss War dvd box-set.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 10:11 AM (Lhaco)
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I still listen, I just eye roll my way thru anti Vatican bits. I find early Church history interesting.
Although sometimes it is instructive to mentally refute their arguments against Catholicism. The way I see it , the Catholic Church is the OG, all other modern religions, even modern day Judaism, define themselves in contrast to it.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 10:07 AM (DoBxX)
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The silly part is that there is no real conflict between the Eastern Rite and the Latin Rite. It was always political and cultural, and the anathemas were lifted decades ago.
What are those guys going to do if Constantinople resumes Communion with Rome? Believe it or not, I thinik Francis actually enabled this because everyone agrees that papal power needs to have some firm guardrails, which has long been an Orthodox sticking point. Francis firing bishops, trying to change doctrine and suppress the TLM make great object lessons in the problems with a papal dictatorship (which of course didn't even work).
Although sometimes it is instructive to mentally refute their arguments against Catholicism. The way I see it , the Catholic Church is the OG, all other modern religions, even modern day Judaism, define themselves in contrast to it.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 10:07 AM (DoBxX)
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The silly part is that there is no real conflict between the Eastern Rite and the Latin Rite. It was always political and cultural, and the anathemas were lifted decades ago.
What are those guys going to do if Constantinople resumes Communion with Rome? Believe it or not, I thinik Francis actually enabled this because everyone agrees that papal power needs to have some firm guardrails, which has long been an Orthodox sticking point. Francis firing bishops, trying to change doctrine and suppress the TLM make great object lessons in the problems with a papal dictatorship (which of course didn't even work).
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:12 AM (ZOv7s)
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That Morning Glory etc thing was kinda like a train wreck -- almost can't look away. Or instead maybe you hope it's a joke.
For me the mind-blowing thing isn't that it's out there at all, because these days anybody can publish anything. No, it's that if you look at that title on Amazon, you see that it's book 1 of 5. And just in case that's not bad enough, it's got over 20,000 user ratings.
No, I haven't got the guts to look at the sample.
For me the mind-blowing thing isn't that it's out there at all, because these days anybody can publish anything. No, it's that if you look at that title on Amazon, you see that it's book 1 of 5. And just in case that's not bad enough, it's got over 20,000 user ratings.
No, I haven't got the guts to look at the sample.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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Also finished Iron Gold, the 4th book by Pierce Brown in his Red Rising universe. Not as good as the first three because although the main characters email, he needs to add some new ones as he progresses the story line into the future so it doesn't flow as smoothly. I'll still keep going though because his storytelling is so thrilling and action packed. Again, Sci-Fi fans should take note.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (t/2Uw)
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I like movie and tv-inspired cookbooks. I have the Alien cookbook, which is a scream (unless you're in space).
In fact I just checked out "The Walking Dead Official Cookbook and Survival Guide" from the library. The title page has Carol in Martha Stewart mode making cookies 😆
Foundational Fried Spam, Dixon Deer Stew, Squirrel Picante, and other delights.
In fact I just checked out "The Walking Dead Official Cookbook and Survival Guide" from the library. The title page has Carol in Martha Stewart mode making cookies 😆
Foundational Fried Spam, Dixon Deer Stew, Squirrel Picante, and other delights.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (kpS4V)
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Calvin and Hobbes, The Far Side, and Foxtrot and the like. Man, that was quite the time to be growing up...
Posted by: Castle Guy
Jeff McNeely's "Shoe".
Also loved scoffing at how retarded "Family Circle" and "Nancy" were.
Posted by: Castle Guy
Jeff McNeely's "Shoe".
Also loved scoffing at how retarded "Family Circle" and "Nancy" were.
Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (Y8DZL)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:14 AM (bXbFr)
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Prince Valiant!
Memories of Sunday morning comic book section of the newspaper now gone.
That series went woke badly.
Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2025 10:01 AM (Y8DZL)
Awww, that's disappointing. But in no way surprising.
Prince Valiant!
Memories of Sunday morning comic book section of the newspaper now gone.
That series went woke badly.
Posted by: Auspex at August 31, 2025 10:01 AM (Y8DZL)
Awww, that's disappointing. But in no way surprising.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 10:14 AM (Lhaco)
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While I enjoyed the book, I will not argue that it is high art. It's just long-form pulp adventure. With a dash of blatant marketing for Dungeons and Dragons. But then, I grew up with Transformers. I'm okay with turning a product into a story, and being happy with something half-way decent....
Reading the first book also inspired me to break out my Record of Lodoss War dvd box-set.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 10:11 AM (Lhaco)
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Everyone has their own comfort zone. It just found it ultimately wanting to the point that I got rid of it.
After that, I shifted more into reading history, and got deep into Roman history, Tacitus and the like, so probably not the target audience.
Reading the first book also inspired me to break out my Record of Lodoss War dvd box-set.
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 10:11 AM (Lhaco)
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Everyone has their own comfort zone. It just found it ultimately wanting to the point that I got rid of it.
After that, I shifted more into reading history, and got deep into Roman history, Tacitus and the like, so probably not the target audience.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:14 AM (ZOv7s)
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good morning Weasel, Horde
Posted by: callsign claymore at August 31, 2025 10:15 AM (4Z4M/)
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Some of you Morons read such smart stuff--I feel like I want and need to read more non-fiction and learn some things. But then, I get pulled into another gripping suspense or adventure novel, and I've gone another week without expanding my mental universe.
Girl just wants to have fun, I guess.
Girl just wants to have fun, I guess.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:15 AM (h7ZuX)
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I have "The Illuminatus! Trilogy" in my TBR pile. I have a friend who thinks JFK was shot by his driver. What an amazing act of deception to screen it from the witnesses as well as all the obsessive investigators over the decades. Then there was the guy who said there was a gun in Kennedy's ashtray that killed him. He stated it with total certainty and a certain smugness that no one else had thought of the idea before he did.
Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at August 31, 2025 10:16 AM (tRYqg)
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Medieval World Problem #56:
In order to communicate the tidings of happenings in their village to their bees,
Medieval Bee Keepers had to dance around the hive wiggling their butts, often for hours at a time.
The practice ended when it was found out that the bees were dancing in reply for the big, flightless, retarded bee to just go away and bother the ants or something.
Medieval World Problem #56:
In order to communicate the tidings of happenings in their village to their bees,
Medieval Bee Keepers had to dance around the hive wiggling their butts, often for hours at a time.
The practice ended when it was found out that the bees were dancing in reply for the big, flightless, retarded bee to just go away and bother the ants or something.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025 10:16 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:17 AM (q3u5l)
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Cat is jealous of my focus on the book thread and demands tummy rubs. I can but comply.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (kpS4V)
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No, I haven't got the guts to look at the sample.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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Seems like the brainstorming process was: "Instead of using a guy called a 'bull,' why not make it an actual bull?"
"No, that's gross."
"How about a minotaur?"
"That's gold, Jerry!"
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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Seems like the brainstorming process was: "Instead of using a guy called a 'bull,' why not make it an actual bull?"
"No, that's gross."
"How about a minotaur?"
"That's gold, Jerry!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)
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Posted by: Norrin Radd, sojourner of the spaceways at August 31, 2025 10:16 AM (tRYqg)
But, how's your book coming?
But, how's your book coming?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (0eaVi)
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As far as the Not Native American Except Canadian Graham Greene, one of his most famous books and one I liked was The Quiet American about the political and personal problems of a spook in Vietnam in the '50s.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, when is the last time you got to read MAD?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2025 10:19 AM (dxWFK)
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Ball bearing discussion creates friction on Smart Military Blog™.
Film at 11.
Yeah? Or is that just what they want you to think? C'mon, wake up, sheeple!
Film at 11.
Yeah? Or is that just what they want you to think? C'mon, wake up, sheeple!
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (3nLb4)
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As far as the Not Native American Except Canadian Graham Greene, one of his most famous books and one I liked was The Quiet American about the political and personal problems of a spook in Vietnam in the '50s.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (L/fGl)
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Yes, that is also a good one to start with.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (L/fGl)
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Yes, that is also a good one to start with.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (ZOv7s)
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123 Dash,
What's wrong with fun?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:17 AM (q3u5l)
Well, nothing, I guess. Thanks!
What's wrong with fun?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:17 AM (q3u5l)
Well, nothing, I guess. Thanks!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (h7ZuX)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (q3u5l)
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As I read more poetry and books that are spiritually uplifting, I'm finding more passages I want to remember and refer back to. I never used to mark up books in any way. Now I do. Highlighting, writing in margins with a pencil, and marking pages. I use Bic Brite Liners in different colors to highlight. Easy to spot and won't obscure any text. Pencils for the margin notes as pencil won't fade or damage the paper. (No acid.) I like bronze Book Darts to mark the page with the notes. They are VERY thin, flexible and smooth and won't tear the paper, not even thin Bible pages. They can be positioned to point to the specific part of the page and they are easily visible from the side but not intrusive.
The Post-It tabs, the kind used to note 'sign here' on forms are useful and inexpensive but I think they look intrusive and aren't meant to last forever. I use them for recipe books and for temporary matters.
Anyone else find themselves more often marking passages in their reading?
The Post-It tabs, the kind used to note 'sign here' on forms are useful and inexpensive but I think they look intrusive and aren't meant to last forever. I use them for recipe books and for temporary matters.
Anyone else find themselves more often marking passages in their reading?
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:21 AM (yTvNw)
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No, I haven't got the guts to look at the sample.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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Seems like the brainstorming process was: "Instead of using a guy called a 'bull,' why not make it an actual bull?"
"No, that's gross."
"How about a minotaur?"
"That's gold, Jerry!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)
How did the minotaurs get into the bus station toilet stalls to conduct their glory hole business?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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Seems like the brainstorming process was: "Instead of using a guy called a 'bull,' why not make it an actual bull?"
"No, that's gross."
"How about a minotaur?"
"That's gold, Jerry!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)
How did the minotaurs get into the bus station toilet stalls to conduct their glory hole business?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025 10:21 AM (iJfKG)
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Who was it who said that all reading except the reading you're forced into for school or work is reading for pleasure?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:22 AM (q3u5l)
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In the 90s I had a neighbor who was a really nice guy and a conspiracy theorist. (He also had a tank in his yard, but I don't know how that factors in.) Anyway, he would regale me with these theories and I noticed that what proved they were true in his mind is that evidence for them was hidden. In other words, you could not see for yourself what was really going on and therefore the thing that you couldn't see was the thing that was happening.
Contrast that with my recent experiences, where the conspiracies were all of the sort where I was told that I wasn't seeing what I was in fact seeing and to not believe my own eyes if I see something outside the approved narrative.
So that kinda casts doubt on his viewpoints, although he may have been right about the Bush family.
Contrast that with my recent experiences, where the conspiracies were all of the sort where I was told that I wasn't seeing what I was in fact seeing and to not believe my own eyes if I see something outside the approved narrative.
So that kinda casts doubt on his viewpoints, although he may have been right about the Bush family.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at August 31, 2025 10:24 AM (FMtrg)
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Medieval World Problem #56:
In order to communicate the tidings of happenings in their village to their bees,
Medieval Bee Keepers had to dance around the hive wiggling their butts, often for hours at a time.
The practice ended when it was found out that the bees were dancing in reply for the big, flightless, retarded bee to just go away and bother the ants or something.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025 10:16 AM (iJfKG)
That's giving me vibes from an old Mystery Science Theater 3000 sketch:
"Just for today, I thought I'd communicate as the bees do!"
"Um, bees communicate through movement and odor."
...
"I'll just be using movement."
Medieval World Problem #56:
In order to communicate the tidings of happenings in their village to their bees,
Medieval Bee Keepers had to dance around the hive wiggling their butts, often for hours at a time.
The practice ended when it was found out that the bees were dancing in reply for the big, flightless, retarded bee to just go away and bother the ants or something.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025 10:16 AM (iJfKG)
That's giving me vibes from an old Mystery Science Theater 3000 sketch:
"Just for today, I thought I'd communicate as the bees do!"
"Um, bees communicate through movement and odor."
...
"I'll just be using movement."
Posted by: Castle Guy at August 31, 2025 10:24 AM (Lhaco)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:25 AM (q3u5l)
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GURPS?
Best niche RPG of all time was "Paranoia".
Hadn't paid much attention to them since then.
Best niche RPG of all time was "Paranoia".
Hadn't paid much attention to them since then.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 10:25 AM (/lPRQ)
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Since we were referencing year of the gun one of frankenheimers films based on mewshaw there is anothet tale about the red brigade just calls by malcolm mcdonnell
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:26 AM (bXbFr)
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A hearty fnord! to all the Book Threadists. You know who you are.
Never really saw the appeal of conspiracy theories. People (in bulk) always forget something and even real conspiracies fall apart. Plus I have spent time inside the government and it is a miracle anything gets done, never mind actual conspiracies.
The mole people are real, though. They trash my lawn regularly. I didn't even DO anything.
Oh, reading. I have been having fun on Royal Road reading about a magician who gets power from trash. It is hilarious. "God of Trash".
Never really saw the appeal of conspiracy theories. People (in bulk) always forget something and even real conspiracies fall apart. Plus I have spent time inside the government and it is a miracle anything gets done, never mind actual conspiracies.
The mole people are real, though. They trash my lawn regularly. I didn't even DO anything.
Oh, reading. I have been having fun on Royal Road reading about a magician who gets power from trash. It is hilarious. "God of Trash".
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 31, 2025 10:26 AM (0uqdh)
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The brigatte who seize the yacht of an italian businessman and his mistress betrayed by his dotty daughter
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:27 AM (bXbFr)
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Anyone else find themselves more often marking passages in their reading?
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:21 AM (yTvNw)
No. I just can't. And I am really annoyed when I find a used book that I want, but it's marked up. Someone else's notes are really distracting to me. YMMV.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:21 AM (yTvNw)
No. I just can't. And I am really annoyed when I find a used book that I want, but it's marked up. Someone else's notes are really distracting to me. YMMV.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:28 AM (h7ZuX)
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I'm not even going to read the comments before I throw Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco into the conspiricay theory mx.
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Name of the Rose was a conspiracy as well. I have a theory that when Eco changed English translators, he lost his mojo.
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Name of the Rose was a conspiracy as well. I have a theory that when Eco changed English translators, he lost his mojo.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2025 10:28 AM (GjnYY)
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What's wrong with fun?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:17 AM (q3u5l)
Well, nothing, I guess. Thanks!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (h7ZuX)
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I think most pleasure reading is a form of escape, but people escape in different ways. Going back into history, reading what ancient people did and thought is a sufficient escape for some. Others want to shred the bound of reality and go out into space or fight dragons.
To each his own.
I gravitate to non-fiction because I'm interested in history and want to know more about it. I ended up writing two books because I really enjoyed the research and wanted to share what I found, which did not seem to be otherwise available.
That's why folks wondering if I'll go after some other conflict aren't wrong, but I'm not really into anything at the moment. Both China and Spain had stuck with me for a long time, lurking on a back burner of interest, never fully resolved. I've got a few other items like that, but it's a lot of work, and I don't have as much free time as I did when I researched/wrote Long Live Death and Walls of Men.
But I do like writing, so maybe another novel is a good idea.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:17 AM (q3u5l)
Well, nothing, I guess. Thanks!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (h7ZuX)
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I think most pleasure reading is a form of escape, but people escape in different ways. Going back into history, reading what ancient people did and thought is a sufficient escape for some. Others want to shred the bound of reality and go out into space or fight dragons.
To each his own.
I gravitate to non-fiction because I'm interested in history and want to know more about it. I ended up writing two books because I really enjoyed the research and wanted to share what I found, which did not seem to be otherwise available.
That's why folks wondering if I'll go after some other conflict aren't wrong, but I'm not really into anything at the moment. Both China and Spain had stuck with me for a long time, lurking on a back burner of interest, never fully resolved. I've got a few other items like that, but it's a lot of work, and I don't have as much free time as I did when I researched/wrote Long Live Death and Walls of Men.
But I do like writing, so maybe another novel is a good idea.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)
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If you think about it, lots of reading is really just prep for your next writing.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)
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As a kid never got into comic books much, was a serious reader even then.
Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2025 10:29 AM (+qU29)
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Oh pendulum is very crazy
Anyways the yacht is being tracked by a joint mossad gsg 9 sas counterterror taskforve
Anyways the yacht is being tracked by a joint mossad gsg 9 sas counterterror taskforve
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:29 AM (bXbFr)
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Speaking of religion, by the way, Minneapolis Mayor Frey's campaign manager thinks it's an insult to Christians to use prayer rather gun control to mourn dead children.
Sam Schulenberg@sam_schulie_1
I’m a Christian, a gun owner, and Frey’s campaign manager. I think it’s insulting to Christians to use God as a tool to defend inaction as young children are gunned down in our country over and over again. The Bible calls for prayer and faith, but also for action.
Sam Schulenberg@sam_schulie_1
I’m a Christian, a gun owner, and Frey’s campaign manager. I think it’s insulting to Christians to use God as a tool to defend inaction as young children are gunned down in our country over and over again. The Bible calls for prayer and faith, but also for action.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, when is the last time you got to read MAD?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2025 10:19 AM (dxWFK)
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Geez, decades perhaps. I scan the covers but don't open it. I was there for the golden age and I want to remember it like that.
And heck, even as a kid I remember thinking Nixon Derangement Syndrome was ruining it.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2025 10:19 AM (dxWFK)
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Geez, decades perhaps. I scan the covers but don't open it. I was there for the golden age and I want to remember it like that.
And heck, even as a kid I remember thinking Nixon Derangement Syndrome was ruining it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 10:30 AM (kpS4V)
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@115 --
I loved "Shoe," as befits a newspaper guy, but after Jeff MacNelly died, the successors turned it into just old farts grousing at Roz's diner. Big whoop.
I loved "Shoe," as befits a newspaper guy, but after Jeff MacNelly died, the successors turned it into just old farts grousing at Roz's diner. Big whoop.
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 31, 2025 10:31 AM (n9Mx8)
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Weasel, what is your email?
I have an old thread I sent in a couple of years ago that was never posted to the Sunday Book Thread, that I think would be great for next week. It's on author Mark Helprin.
Thanks.
I have an old thread I sent in a couple of years ago that was never posted to the Sunday Book Thread, that I think would be great for next week. It's on author Mark Helprin.
Thanks.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 10:31 AM (/RHNq)
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The daughter has the antifa precursor attitude down
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:31 AM (bXbFr)
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Anyone else find themselves more often marking passages in their reading?
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:21 AM (yTvNw)
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Only using bookmarks. I don't write in books.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:21 AM (yTvNw)
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Only using bookmarks. I don't write in books.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:32 AM (ZOv7s)
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I have a map of the ancient roman empire as made by a 15th century guy as part of my slideshow screensaver
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
I would love to see that.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
I would love to see that.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 10:33 AM (/RHNq)
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That looks cool
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:34 AM (bXbFr)
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95 ... "Medeval bee-keeping is wild! I don't remember how I got on that kick, but I did some online-only research on that that a year or so back... They kept the hives in upside-down baskets, and they basically had to destroy the hive to actually harvest the honey.. And it was customary to talk to your bees; to bring them tidings of what was happing in town, and to announce any births or marriages that happen to the family."
That's why I enjoyed the OFA article so much. Even ancient cultures understood the importance of beekeeping and maintaining places they could thrive. I should learn more about the history and lore, just for a glimpse into history, folklore and the environment.
That's why I enjoyed the OFA article so much. Even ancient cultures understood the importance of beekeeping and maintaining places they could thrive. I should learn more about the history and lore, just for a glimpse into history, folklore and the environment.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:34 AM (yTvNw)
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*runs in out of breath*
Home from Mass. Coffee and kolaches consumed. Clothes changed. House dogs run out. Kennel dogs fed.
Came out the door at church to see a cop standing near the entrance. What have we come to when this is seen as necessary?
*runs in out of breath*
Home from Mass. Coffee and kolaches consumed. Clothes changed. House dogs run out. Kennel dogs fed.
Came out the door at church to see a cop standing near the entrance. What have we come to when this is seen as necessary?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 10:34 AM (kkTda)
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Well, time to go. Thanks, Eris!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:35 AM (ZOv7s)
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Also loved scoffing at how retarded "Family Circle" and "Nancy" were.
Posted by: Auspex
Fair take but you have to admit, 'Sluggo' was, and remains, a fantastic name.
Posted by: Auspex
Fair take but you have to admit, 'Sluggo' was, and remains, a fantastic name.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025 10:35 AM (cYBz/)
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Here's a plot twist worthy of a Perry Mason novel.
Three Floridians Killed By Illegal Indian Trucker Were Actually Haitian Migrants
Three Floridians Killed By Illegal Indian Trucker Were Actually Haitian Migrants
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:37 AM (L/fGl)
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Anyone else find themselves more often marking passages in their reading?
Posted by: JTB
I never write in books.
Posted by: JTB
I never write in books.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 31, 2025 10:37 AM (0U5gm)
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I gravitate to non-fiction because I'm interested in history and want to know more about it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)
That's just it! I want to know more history, but I find myself glazing over with a lot of the history non-fiction that I read--even yours! So sorry! I have to be in just the right frame of mind.
So, I do look for historical fiction so I can get a clue while getting the entertaining reading.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)
That's just it! I want to know more history, but I find myself glazing over with a lot of the history non-fiction that I read--even yours! So sorry! I have to be in just the right frame of mind.
So, I do look for historical fiction so I can get a clue while getting the entertaining reading.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:37 AM (h7ZuX)
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Thomas Paine, see you in October?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2025 10:38 AM (dxWFK)
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Conspiracy! Windswept House by Malachi Martin. "It tells the story of an international organized attempt by Vatican insiders and secular internationalists to force a pope of the Catholic Church to abdicate, so that a successor may be chosen that will fundamentally change orthodox faith and establish a New World Order."
Conspiracy! Windswept House by Malachi Martin. "It tells the story of an international organized attempt by Vatican insiders and secular internationalists to force a pope of the Catholic Church to abdicate, so that a successor may be chosen that will fundamentally change orthodox faith and establish a New World Order."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 10:38 AM (kkTda)
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Cervantes: I can't find anything about that. Name of boat? Kidnappee? When did this happen?
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 10:39 AM (78a2H)
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143 ... "No. I just can't. And I am really annoyed when I find a used book that I want, but it's marked up. Someone else's notes are really distracting to me. YMMV."
I used to feel that way and marking pages seemed a bit sacrilegious. Now I figure they are my books to use as I want or need. Once I'm gone, it's someone else's problem. (It helps to be a curmudgeon.)
I used to feel that way and marking pages seemed a bit sacrilegious. Now I figure they are my books to use as I want or need. Once I'm gone, it's someone else's problem. (It helps to be a curmudgeon.)
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:39 AM (yTvNw)
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Thats seems less like a conspiracy all the time
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:39 AM (bXbFr)
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About the only time I write in books is if I'm making small checks in the contents pages of short story or essay collections when I'm looking for duplications. Otherwise, nope.
May have to start, though, or at least lay in a hefty supply of bookmarks. I used to remember just where I saw a particular nifty quote or reference, but they don't come back to me as quickly any more. In a couple of months, I'll hit the trombones birthday, and the memory ain't what it used to be.
May have to start, though, or at least lay in a hefty supply of bookmarks. I used to remember just where I saw a particular nifty quote or reference, but they don't come back to me as quickly any more. In a couple of months, I'll hit the trombones birthday, and the memory ain't what it used to be.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:39 AM (q3u5l)
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Oh, Hadrian, Windswept House is a good one. Really made me ponder.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 10:40 AM (h7ZuX)
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I finished reading "Amos Yarkoni: Abd al-Majīd Ḥaydar - From the Tents of Kedar to the Mythological Command of the (IDF) Shahked Unit." The book is in Hebrew and is written by Dani Dor.
The simplest English introduction I can give you to Amos Yarkoni is on Wikipedia. I do not vouch for its accuracy but it gives you the overall picture:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Yarkoni
The Bedouins are known here to be excellent trackers. Yarkoni, by a series of events in his youth, became friendly with the Kibbutz Jews who lived not far from his tribe's encampment. He even befriended a young Moshe Dayan after they got into a fight.
For all intensive purposes, Yarkoni founded the IDF's tracker unit(s). They have a very impressive track record.
Besides highlighting Yarkoni's expertise in the field, the book tells of the many obstacles a Bedouin back then had to go through to 1) serve in the IDF and 2) become an officer. Yarkoni was the first of many Bedouin officers to come. Most of my pups served with Bedouins and had one or more Bedouin officers way over their ranks.
(to be continued)
The simplest English introduction I can give you to Amos Yarkoni is on Wikipedia. I do not vouch for its accuracy but it gives you the overall picture:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Yarkoni
The Bedouins are known here to be excellent trackers. Yarkoni, by a series of events in his youth, became friendly with the Kibbutz Jews who lived not far from his tribe's encampment. He even befriended a young Moshe Dayan after they got into a fight.
For all intensive purposes, Yarkoni founded the IDF's tracker unit(s). They have a very impressive track record.
Besides highlighting Yarkoni's expertise in the field, the book tells of the many obstacles a Bedouin back then had to go through to 1) serve in the IDF and 2) become an officer. Yarkoni was the first of many Bedouin officers to come. Most of my pups served with Bedouins and had one or more Bedouin officers way over their ranks.
(to be continued)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 31, 2025 10:40 AM (fCQp8)
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" (He also had a tank in his yard, but I don't know how that factors in.) "
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at August 31, 2025 10:24 AM (FMtrg)
I'm in the market for a tank. Is it still around?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at August 31, 2025 10:24 AM (FMtrg)
I'm in the market for a tank. Is it still around?
Posted by: Reforger at August 31, 2025 10:40 AM (sQ2Ql)
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Sharkman it's on my work computer
I will email you on Tuesday
I will email you on Tuesday
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 10:41 AM (GhIJO)
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Just causes by malcolm mcconnell mighr be on abea or other sites if out of print on amazon
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:42 AM (bXbFr)
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I don't write in books and underlining in a used book is usually enough to make me not want to buy it.
For one thing, I start spending more time wondering about why the previous owner underlined that word or phrase than I do reading the text. I try to find some pattern.
"Why did they underline proper names? They're capitalized anyway. Were they trying to write their own index? The book already has an index. WHY?"
For one thing, I start spending more time wondering about why the previous owner underlined that word or phrase than I do reading the text. I try to find some pattern.
"Why did they underline proper names? They're capitalized anyway. Were they trying to write their own index? The book already has an index. WHY?"
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 10:42 AM (78a2H)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:42 AM (L/fGl)
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I increasingly think the conspiracy Fr. Martin's described went according to plan but not to timeline.
I increasingly think the conspiracy Fr. Martin's described went according to plan but not to timeline.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 10:42 AM (kkTda)
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Anyone else find themselves more often marking passages in their reading?
Posted by: JTB
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I shamelessly dogear pages that I want to re-refer to. Such passing commentary that I might make in the book is done in pencil. I figure that it is my pathetic grasp at immortality, as is an inscription in the front.
Which I could afford some fancy printed bookplates, but they are pricey. I am an inveterate buyer of used books, and have occasionally managed to identify a previous owner, based on an inscription. These are books dating back to the turn of the (19th) century.
I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps. Latest Clancey novel that I read refers to Jack Ryan as 'an historian'. That bugs me. Surely 'a historian' is a bit more proper?
Posted by: JTB
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I shamelessly dogear pages that I want to re-refer to. Such passing commentary that I might make in the book is done in pencil. I figure that it is my pathetic grasp at immortality, as is an inscription in the front.
Which I could afford some fancy printed bookplates, but they are pricey. I am an inveterate buyer of used books, and have occasionally managed to identify a previous owner, based on an inscription. These are books dating back to the turn of the (19th) century.
I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps. Latest Clancey novel that I read refers to Jack Ryan as 'an historian'. That bugs me. Surely 'a historian' is a bit more proper?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2025 10:43 AM (XeU6L)
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I remember Prince Valiant's brother Plymouth.
Posted by: Cicero
Mad magazine did a great parody of Prince Valiant called, naturally, "Prince Violent," which was hilarious. Way back in the 50s, I think. Used to have a paperback with that and a bunch of other funny cartoon strip parodies. Need to go looking for that again.
Posted by: Cicero
Mad magazine did a great parody of Prince Valiant called, naturally, "Prince Violent," which was hilarious. Way back in the 50s, I think. Used to have a paperback with that and a bunch of other funny cartoon strip parodies. Need to go looking for that again.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 10:43 AM (/RHNq)
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Pedant alert:
"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
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(cont.)
I'll end off saying that while not explicitly stated, Yarkoni seems to have lived the life of a secular Muslim, possibly traditional at the most. I stress the secular because from a few of the stories, he comes off as a leftist liberal who like the mostly very secular Israel soldiers under his command, giving back lands captured from an enemy bent on your annihilation and imagining you can make peace with fervent Shiite and Sunni Muslims was his thinking.
Other than that, his career was quite impressive. I salute him for the great deeds he did for us here in Israel.
I'll end off saying that while not explicitly stated, Yarkoni seems to have lived the life of a secular Muslim, possibly traditional at the most. I stress the secular because from a few of the stories, he comes off as a leftist liberal who like the mostly very secular Israel soldiers under his command, giving back lands captured from an enemy bent on your annihilation and imagining you can make peace with fervent Shiite and Sunni Muslims was his thinking.
Other than that, his career was quite impressive. I salute him for the great deeds he did for us here in Israel.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 31, 2025 10:44 AM (fCQp8)
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WTF is going on with Ken Follet's "Pillars of the Earth"? The county library has six hardcover copies and a waiting list to check it out. The local bookstore doesn't have a single copy on the shelves and one of the clerks said they rarely come in for trade. Even used versions online are fairly expensive for well worn paperbacks.
Am I missing a literary masterpiece known to everyone except me? Sheesh! I put in a hold at the library to get it eventually. If it's that good, I'll splurge on my own copy.
Am I missing a literary masterpiece known to everyone except me? Sheesh! I put in a hold at the library to get it eventually. If it's that good, I'll splurge on my own copy.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 10:44 AM (yTvNw)
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They might be maniacs like rodney dangerfield said in back to school
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:45 AM (bXbFr)
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I never mark in books.
I might leave a bookmark or Post it if there's something I want to reference later on.
BONUS! I kind of hate people who write in books. Mostly from my days on searching HPB for used novels/books I couldn't find elsewhere.
I find one and the open it only to find a carnival of highlighting and underlining and their banal thoughts.
Bleh. Do not want.
I might leave a bookmark or Post it if there's something I want to reference later on.
BONUS! I kind of hate people who write in books. Mostly from my days on searching HPB for used novels/books I couldn't find elsewhere.
I find one and the open it only to find a carnival of highlighting and underlining and their banal thoughts.
Bleh. Do not want.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025 10:46 AM (iJfKG)
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I acquired a copy of The Just and the Unjust by James Gould Cozzens that the previous owner marked and annotated. It annoyed me.
I acquired a copy of The Just and the Unjust by James Gould Cozzens that the previous owner marked and annotated. It annoyed me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 10:46 AM (kkTda)
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This week, I started Last Waltz in Vienna by George Clare, the story of his Viennese Jewish family from 1842 to 1942 So far, excellent. Austria hasn't started their descent into Nazi madness as yet, but there are hints.
Posted by: who knew at August 31, 2025 10:47 AM (+ViXu)
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Sharkman, that sounds like a great series.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Fantastic so far. "Bob" clones himself, and each clone is him, but with slightly different personalities. And they all go off adventuring and discovering and of course running into all sorts of technical problems that must be solved, all while trying to save Earth. I'm really enjoying it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Fantastic so far. "Bob" clones himself, and each clone is him, but with slightly different personalities. And they all go off adventuring and discovering and of course running into all sorts of technical problems that must be solved, all while trying to save Earth. I'm really enjoying it.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 10:47 AM (/RHNq)
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Pedant alert:
"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
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You know you've been in Israel to long when....
"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
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You know you've been in Israel to long when....
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 31, 2025 10:48 AM (fCQp8)
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I shamelessly dogear pages that I want to re-refer to. Such passing commentary that I might make in the book is done in pencil.
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I mark those places with dog show ribbons. Of which we have hundreds upon hundreds.
I shamelessly dogear pages that I want to re-refer to. Such passing commentary that I might make in the book is done in pencil.
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I mark those places with dog show ribbons. Of which we have hundreds upon hundreds.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 10:48 AM (kkTda)
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I abhor marking in books, yet my mother as far as I know writes all over every book she gets.
Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2025 10:48 AM (+qU29)
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Currently reading Blood in the Water by Dan Mellen.
Really good read on the sinking of the USS Liberty by Israel as a false flag event and how the United States government ordered the sailors on board to silence under threat of court martial.
It's a real travesty of justice.
Really good read on the sinking of the USS Liberty by Israel as a false flag event and how the United States government ordered the sailors on board to silence under threat of court martial.
It's a real travesty of justice.
Posted by: Every Time at August 31, 2025 10:48 AM (RIymQ)
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Happily, they feed you wine and cheese in a delightful little garden after.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
If they had places to sit down, nobody would ever leave, it's so beautiful.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
If they had places to sit down, nobody would ever leave, it's so beautiful.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 10:49 AM (/RHNq)
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Trump may be dead, but you know who's totally not dead?
Covie@covie_93
No swollen ankles, nice clear hands without bruises.
Love to see it.
https://is.gd/RPYXXy
Covie@covie_93
No swollen ankles, nice clear hands without bruises.
Love to see it.
https://is.gd/RPYXXy
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:49 AM (L/fGl)
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A little off topic, but is anyone else having issues with the comment section at Breitbart loading? It began about a week or so ago. Happens on every computer and browser. The main page and the stories load, but the comment pages don't display at all.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 31, 2025 10:51 AM (5xuJ/)
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JTB, interesting . I checked our library system and all but one copy are checked out.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 10:53 AM (GYOcA)
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(He also had a tank in his yard, but I don't know how that factors in.)
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Speaking of Nazis (I assume we're talking a Tiger tank) . . .
Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller, claiming the symbol was purposely hidden during the inspection."It's mine now, and I don't want it, but it's mine. I own it, which is horrific... I was just shocked, mortified," said homeowner Lynn Rae Wentworth.
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We'll never know because the media covering this story blurred out the photograph.
https://is.gd/YNLCRb
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Speaking of Nazis (I assume we're talking a Tiger tank) . . .
Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller, claiming the symbol was purposely hidden during the inspection."It's mine now, and I don't want it, but it's mine. I own it, which is horrific... I was just shocked, mortified," said homeowner Lynn Rae Wentworth.
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We'll never know because the media covering this story blurred out the photograph.
https://is.gd/YNLCRb
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
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None of folletts are light reads with granular detail regarding the building of this community
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (q3u5l)
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a note to Just Some Guy, I'm stealing this "once you start viewing the entire universe as a conspiracy aimed straight at you, everything starts to make sense." I'll give you credit but attributing something to 'just some guy' is going to sound like I'm not giving credit to anyone in particular.
Posted by: who knew at August 31, 2025 10:55 AM (+ViXu)
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Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller, claiming the symbol was purposely hidden during the inspection."It's mine now, and I don't want it, but it's mine. I own it, which is horrific... I was just shocked, mortified,"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
My old farmhouse in eastern PA had more than a few swastikas embedded in the various decorations throughout the barn and home. It was build in the 1700's. We thought nothing of them - even as kids we knew they were an old decoration from way before the Troubles starting in the 30's.
The woman is now suing the seller, claiming the symbol was purposely hidden during the inspection."It's mine now, and I don't want it, but it's mine. I own it, which is horrific... I was just shocked, mortified,"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
My old farmhouse in eastern PA had more than a few swastikas embedded in the various decorations throughout the barn and home. It was build in the 1700's. We thought nothing of them - even as kids we knew they were an old decoration from way before the Troubles starting in the 30's.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025 10:56 AM (cYBz/)
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WTF is going on with Ken Follet's "Pillars of the Earth"? The county library has six hardcover copies and a waiting list to check it out. The local bookstore doesn't have a single copy on the shelves and one of the clerks said they rarely come in for trade. Even used versions online are fairly expensive for well worn paperbacks.
Am I missing a literary masterpiece known to everyone except me? Sheesh! I put in a hold at the library to get it eventually. If it's that good, I'll splurge on my own copy.
Posted by: JTB
Mrs. Wrecks' former boss said his all time two favorite books were Lonesome Dove and Pillars of the Earth.
Am I missing a literary masterpiece known to everyone except me? Sheesh! I put in a hold at the library to get it eventually. If it's that good, I'll splurge on my own copy.
Posted by: JTB
Mrs. Wrecks' former boss said his all time two favorite books were Lonesome Dove and Pillars of the Earth.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:57 AM (L/fGl)
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199,
Feel free. I probably heard it somewhere else myself, but I've slept since then and can't remember the source.
Suppose it could go back to Catch-22. "They're trying to kill me." "They're trying to kill everybody." "What difference does that make?"
Wonder if there's any $$$ to be made in selling buttons that say "Yossarian Was Right"
Feel free. I probably heard it somewhere else myself, but I've slept since then and can't remember the source.
Suppose it could go back to Catch-22. "They're trying to kill me." "They're trying to kill everybody." "What difference does that make?"
Wonder if there's any $$$ to be made in selling buttons that say "Yossarian Was Right"
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:59 AM (q3u5l)
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Speaking of Nazis (I assume we're talking a Tiger tank) . . .
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Number of Tiger I and II built: 1,900
Number of M4 Shermans built: 49,000
Number of T-34s built: 84,000
Speaking of Nazis (I assume we're talking a Tiger tank) . . .
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Number of Tiger I and II built: 1,900
Number of M4 Shermans built: 49,000
Number of T-34s built: 84,000
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 11:00 AM (kkTda)
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Re Breitbart --
I've not seen that problem at my end. I use the Chrome browser on a Chromebox.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (q3u5l)
Just tried again and it's back. Using Chrome on a Windows 10 Tosbiha gaming laptop. Need to talk to Bob at NSA.
I've not seen that problem at my end. I use the Chrome browser on a Chromebox.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (q3u5l)
Just tried again and it's back. Using Chrome on a Windows 10 Tosbiha gaming laptop. Need to talk to Bob at NSA.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 31, 2025 11:00 AM (5xuJ/)
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80 ... "I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps. Latest Clancey novel that I read refers to Jack Ryan as 'an historian'. That bugs me. Surely 'a historian' is a bit more proper?"
One of my duties as a project manager was proofing technical and corporate documents. I'm appalled and annoyed by the sloppy editing and typos in a lot of modern books, especially popular fiction. Is English even their first language? I half expect to see emojis instead of words. And this is from top line publishers. Odd mistakes in a free ebook done by OCR is annoying but forgivable. But Berkley and similar charging big bucks for a novel have no excuse.
One of my duties as a project manager was proofing technical and corporate documents. I'm appalled and annoyed by the sloppy editing and typos in a lot of modern books, especially popular fiction. Is English even their first language? I half expect to see emojis instead of words. And this is from top line publishers. Odd mistakes in a free ebook done by OCR is annoying but forgivable. But Berkley and similar charging big bucks for a novel have no excuse.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 11:00 AM (yTvNw)
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Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at August 31, 2025 11:00 AM (h7ZuX)
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@200 Seems as if any museum-tech-level artisan could remove those tiles, number them, and sell the set at a rapacious profit. Considering what's been coming in to Germany, she might not even have to offshore it.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 31, 2025 11:01 AM (zdLoL)
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Just finished book 3 of the Raj Whitehall series, now onto book 4 eventually. The time jumps between chapters can be a little jarring at times, especially in the earlier books, but I'm glad you don't get bogged down in the details between campaigns too often. For instance, you may finish one campaign only for the next chapter to start after the next campaign has begun.
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I appreciate the historical knowledge that went into it, but it has the same weakness as most alt-history novels imo. The sense that it is all just an intellectual exercise by the writer.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (DoBxX)
The key to doing a good alt-history novel is to not make it historical but fantastical. That way you have more freedom in how you construct it. Otherwise as you say they often turn out to be an intellectual exercise by the writer.
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I appreciate the historical knowledge that went into it, but it has the same weakness as most alt-history novels imo. The sense that it is all just an intellectual exercise by the writer.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:33 AM (DoBxX)
The key to doing a good alt-history novel is to not make it historical but fantastical. That way you have more freedom in how you construct it. Otherwise as you say they often turn out to be an intellectual exercise by the writer.
Posted by: Farquad at August 31, 2025 11:01 AM (NtFTC)
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Really good read on the sinking of the USS Liberty by Israel as a false flag event and how the United States government ordered the sailors on board to silence under threat of court martial.
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How was it a false flag event?
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How was it a false flag event?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:01 AM (L/fGl)
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Pedant alert:
"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
I thought it was a reference to monomaniacal sea mammals. Like rapey dolphins and such.
"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
I thought it was a reference to monomaniacal sea mammals. Like rapey dolphins and such.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 11:01 AM (3nLb4)
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FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
Exactly! But, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! she had to go full Karen and call in the local news.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
Exactly! But, NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! she had to go full Karen and call in the local news.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025 11:02 AM (cYBz/)
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I've read the Illuminatus dolphin book. I started it on a lark and finished it out of spite. There were some fun parts in it but my innocent midwestern brain has never been fried enough for the required exegesis.
Posted by: banana Dread Pirate Autumn Spiced Balls Dream at August 31, 2025 11:03 AM (cduTK)
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Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
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I wonder what kind of themed parties were held in that basement.
And I hate that our media is following the cowardly European model, which won't even show Nazi or Confederate flags for fear of inflaming the populace.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
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I wonder what kind of themed parties were held in that basement.
And I hate that our media is following the cowardly European model, which won't even show Nazi or Confederate flags for fear of inflaming the populace.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 11:05 AM (kpS4V)
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I read Pillars of the Earth a few years ago. It's OK, but definitely not a literary masterpiece you were unaware of. Apparently very popular, though.
Posted by: who knew at August 31, 2025 11:05 AM (+ViXu)
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How was it a false flag event?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
The theory goes that it was a joint effort by Israel and us to gain sympathy for the US to join the war against Egypt. Lots of screw ups along the way though on both sides - Israel and us that led to, and allowed, the attack to continue.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
The theory goes that it was a joint effort by Israel and us to gain sympathy for the US to join the war against Egypt. Lots of screw ups along the way though on both sides - Israel and us that led to, and allowed, the attack to continue.
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Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 10:31 AM (/RHNq)
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Gunthread at ProtonMail dot com
Email me and we can discuss.
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Gunthread at ProtonMail dot com
Email me and we can discuss.
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:06 AM (dmH0a)
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FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
Seems a shame to destroy actual historical artifacts just because of what they later came to be associated with.
Seems a shame to destroy actual historical artifacts just because of what they later came to be associated with.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 11:06 AM (3nLb4)
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Cenk's stupidity is truly breathtaking. Seriously if he was half as smart as he thinks he is he would be dangerous.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
He's also the asshole who named his show "The Young Turks". Who were the Young Turks, you ask? Why, they're the fuckers who committed the Armenian Genocide, that's who.
Nobody should ever listen to a think Chunk says based just on that.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
He's also the asshole who named his show "The Young Turks". Who were the Young Turks, you ask? Why, they're the fuckers who committed the Armenian Genocide, that's who.
Nobody should ever listen to a think Chunk says based just on that.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:07 AM (/RHNq)
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>>> Speaking of religion, by the way, Minneapolis Mayor Frey's campaign manager thinks it's an insult to Christians to use prayer rather gun control to mourn dead children.
I have that historically the criminally insane sexual psychopaths were put into special places where they could not harm the innocent. Not restrict the innocents' rights to protect the pychopaths.
I have that historically the criminally insane sexual psychopaths were put into special places where they could not harm the innocent. Not restrict the innocents' rights to protect the pychopaths.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:07 AM (/lPRQ)
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Tiled into the floor? This is why God made cheap carpet. The home decor equivalent of shoot & shovel.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:08 AM (q3u5l)
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And I hate that our media is following the cowardly European model, which won't even show Nazi or Confederate flags for fear of inflaming the populace.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Which is hilarious because down here in rural TN, the Stars and Bars are on full display many places. Even at our county courthouse are where we have the War Memorial KIAs listed. A full one half of the Civil War dead listed are on the CSA rolls.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Which is hilarious because down here in rural TN, the Stars and Bars are on full display many places. Even at our county courthouse are where we have the War Memorial KIAs listed. A full one half of the Civil War dead listed are on the CSA rolls.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025 11:08 AM (cYBz/)
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See Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream." Grim stuff. Really.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
Harlan Ellison was one of the most arrogant and obnoxious human beings ever born. But, man, could that dude write.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
Harlan Ellison was one of the most arrogant and obnoxious human beings ever born. But, man, could that dude write.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:09 AM (/RHNq)
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Number of Tiger I and II built: 1,900
I've told it before, but here's my Tiger story.
In the North Shoulder Bulge area, I was touring a battle site with US and Waffen veterans. One of the Amis pointed out the exact spot he'd taken a bazooka shot at a "King Tiger," and then ran like hell. The German with me said "There were hardly any Tigers on this front; it was almost certainly a Panzer Mk IV, which is an Austrian tank." Another corrected him, "Austrian chassis, German gun." The American allowed as how this was probably true, but once you have seen one King Tiger, every German tank looks like a King Tiger.
I've told it before, but here's my Tiger story.
In the North Shoulder Bulge area, I was touring a battle site with US and Waffen veterans. One of the Amis pointed out the exact spot he'd taken a bazooka shot at a "King Tiger," and then ran like hell. The German with me said "There were hardly any Tigers on this front; it was almost certainly a Panzer Mk IV, which is an Austrian tank." Another corrected him, "Austrian chassis, German gun." The American allowed as how this was probably true, but once you have seen one King Tiger, every German tank looks like a King Tiger.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 31, 2025 11:09 AM (zdLoL)
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Any conspiracy theories about the attack on the USS Liberty are justified. LBJ was president and I put nothing past what that SOB would do.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 11:09 AM (yTvNw)
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"intensive purposes" is meaningless. The phrase is "INTENTS AND PURPOSES." In other words, for all reasons, in the general case, generally.
Posted by: Trimegistus
I could care less.
Speaking of pet peeves, I listen to a lot of audio books and robo-narrators are becoming more and more common not only on books but also on YouTubes and such. Their pronunciation is less than perfect. One common example I find particularly annoying is "WWII" being pronounced "W wee."
Posted by: Trimegistus
I could care less.
Speaking of pet peeves, I listen to a lot of audio books and robo-narrators are becoming more and more common not only on books but also on YouTubes and such. Their pronunciation is less than perfect. One common example I find particularly annoying is "WWII" being pronounced "W wee."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:10 AM (L/fGl)
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"I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps. Latest Clancey novel that I read refers to Jack Ryan as 'an historian'. That bugs me. Surely 'a historian' is a bit more proper?"
The "h" is silent.
The "h" is silent.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:10 AM (/lPRQ)
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I bought a house that was built by one of the people the midnight in the garden of good and evil was based on. I dug through the attic looking for some of his stuff but never found anything. After doing a little digging I found he mostly lived in a neighbor's house and mine was actually built for a family member to live in.
Come time to sell the house I was forced to pony up about 6 grand to some shit scammy law office so they could extra special insure the title because the guy just gave the house to his sister over fifty years ago. The city, the buyer, the agents, all the closing lawyers said it was all bs. But the scummy relocation outfit threatened to cancel all of my company bennie's unless I kicked the money to them.
My natural disposition against lawyers leveled up pretty hard after that.
Come time to sell the house I was forced to pony up about 6 grand to some shit scammy law office so they could extra special insure the title because the guy just gave the house to his sister over fifty years ago. The city, the buyer, the agents, all the closing lawyers said it was all bs. But the scummy relocation outfit threatened to cancel all of my company bennie's unless I kicked the money to them.
My natural disposition against lawyers leveled up pretty hard after that.
Posted by: banana Dread Pirate Autumn Spiced Balls Dream at August 31, 2025 11:11 AM (cduTK)
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I do care. If you don't care what words actually mean, you're not communicating. You're just making noises like a duck.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 11:12 AM (78a2H)
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See Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream." Grim stuff. Really.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
Thank you kindly.
Posted by: Just Some Guy
Thank you kindly.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:13 AM (/RHNq)
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Harlan Ellison was one of the most arrogant and obnoxious human beings ever born. But, man, could that dude write.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:09 AM (/RHNq)
I first thought you were talking about Harlan Williams.
Imagine my confusion.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:09 AM (/RHNq)
I first thought you were talking about Harlan Williams.
Imagine my confusion.
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Nobody Reads My Posts at August 31, 2025 11:14 AM (0aYVJ)
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On the few occasions I was in Harlan Ellison's company, the only times I saw any arrogant or obnoxious was when somebody prodded him.
But absolutely, that dude could write.
But absolutely, that dude could write.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:14 AM (q3u5l)
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>>> I read Pillars of the Earth a few years ago. It's OK, but definitely not a literary masterpiece you were unaware of. Apparently very popular, though.
Posted by: who knew at August 31, 2025 11:05 AM (+ViXu)
I could have used a bit less rapey rape. Yeah, I realize that the age was pretty rough. But people spend a lot of time pissing too. Do I want to read about it? No. It was exactly what I expected a book about building a church written by an atheist to be like.
Posted by: who knew at August 31, 2025 11:05 AM (+ViXu)
I could have used a bit less rapey rape. Yeah, I realize that the age was pretty rough. But people spend a lot of time pissing too. Do I want to read about it? No. It was exactly what I expected a book about building a church written by an atheist to be like.
Posted by: banana Dread Pirate Autumn Spiced Balls Dream at August 31, 2025 11:14 AM (cduTK)
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He was a historian 40 years ago when he taught at annapolis
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 11:14 AM (bXbFr)
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Who Dis is Kid Rock.
Posted by: I'll just go ahead and go there at August 31, 2025 11:15 AM (PiwSw)
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My favorite Ellison short story is "Life Hutch". I haven't read it since I was a kid but the story has always stuck with me.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (cYBz/)
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Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
Wait until she notices the meat hooks on the wall just above the ceiling tile, the slit drain in the floor, and the oversize hose bib.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 10:54 AM (L/fGl)
FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
Wait until she notices the meat hooks on the wall just above the ceiling tile, the slit drain in the floor, and the oversize hose bib.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (/lPRQ)
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I do care. If you don't care what words actually mean, you're not communicating. You're just making noises like a duck.
Posted by: Trimegistus
It was a joke. Apparently a misfire but still . . .
Posted by: Trimegistus
It was a joke. Apparently a misfire but still . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Mikey Alpha Kilo, Nobody Reads My Posts at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (0aYVJ)
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Gunthread at ProtonMail dot com
Email me and we can discuss.
Posted by: Weasel
Got it, thank you.
Email me and we can discuss.
Posted by: Weasel
Got it, thank you.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:18 AM (/RHNq)
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"I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps. Latest Clancey novel that I read refers to Jack Ryan as 'an historian'. That bugs me. Surely 'a historian' is a bit more proper?"
The "h" is silent.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:10 AM (/lPRQ)
Incorrect. The "H" is a consonant, no matter whether a speaker wrongly pronounces it or not.
As it is written: "I am a consonant. Thou shalt have no consonants before me."
The "h" is silent.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:10 AM (/lPRQ)
Incorrect. The "H" is a consonant, no matter whether a speaker wrongly pronounces it or not.
As it is written: "I am a consonant. Thou shalt have no consonants before me."
Posted by: H at August 31, 2025 11:18 AM (0eaVi)
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Ball bearing discussion creates friction on Smart Military Blog™.
Film at 11.
Yeah? Or is that just what they want you to think? C'mon, wake up, sheeple!
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (3nLb4)
Remember, the best mouse traps are ball-bearing mouse traps!
Film at 11.
Yeah? Or is that just what they want you to think? C'mon, wake up, sheeple!
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 10:20 AM (3nLb4)
Remember, the best mouse traps are ball-bearing mouse traps!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2025 11:18 AM (+o/4e)
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Unless they retconned him how else can he stull be presidemt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 11:18 AM (bXbFr)
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FFS. She can't just take a hammer to the tiles and lay some new flooring over it? It's not like the joint was possessed by demons, right? Symbols can be removed.
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Think about the bad karma for removing the Indian symbols.
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Think about the bad karma for removing the Indian symbols.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2025 11:19 AM (GjnYY)
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And I hate that our media is following the cowardly European model, which won't even show Nazi or Confederate flags for fear of inflaming the populace.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Oh, they show them if they just show up at a Trump rally. Image so clear you can see the crisp fold lines in flags, almost like brand spanking new and just removed from the package.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Oh, they show them if they just show up at a Trump rally. Image so clear you can see the crisp fold lines in flags, almost like brand spanking new and just removed from the package.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:21 AM (/lPRQ)
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Still be president even with the son running the campus
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 11:22 AM (bXbFr)
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OK, 11:22 thank you time!
Thank you!
Big round of applause please for All Hail Eris and her contribution this week.
Hope to see you here next Sunday!
Thank you!
Big round of applause please for All Hail Eris and her contribution this week.
Hope to see you here next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:22 AM (dmH0a)
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Patriot front volume discount
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 31, 2025 11:22 AM (bXbFr)
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>>> I do care. If you don't care what words actually mean, you're not communicating. You're just making noises like a duck.
Posted by: Trimegistus
It was a joke. Apparently a misfire but still . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
The sound that starts with "q" is dangerous in that it has been found to cause spontaneous eruptions, taking over the whole blog, consuming it entirely until nothing is left but grey q.
Posted by: Trimegistus
It was a joke. Apparently a misfire but still . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
The sound that starts with "q" is dangerous in that it has been found to cause spontaneous eruptions, taking over the whole blog, consuming it entirely until nothing is left but grey q.
Posted by: banana Dread Pirate Autumn Spiced Balls Dream at August 31, 2025 11:23 AM (cduTK)
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Morning, Book Folken! I'm back from breakfast at Backer Crarrel. Comments on that in another thread. For now: Lily the Library Lion looks *very* much like my little Dagny La Siberienne! She would love a chair back to perch on while she blocks my access to guards my bookshelves.
Ben reading another Jack Reacher novel, Make Me, from about 2014. Readable as always, but I prefer the third-person narration to the books where he uses first; I prefer Reacher to be almost alone out in the flyover states and in some hamlet where he runs into trouble, in contrast to ones where he is in DC or LA with a group of helpers. And lastly, JR is not a character you're inclined to imitate traits from, because he has almost none. James Bond's Rolex and Bentleys, Travis McGee's Plymouth gin and Rolls pickup truck; those are attributes that stick in the mind. Reacher has coffee, pancakes, and turning left. That's about it.
Ben reading another Jack Reacher novel, Make Me, from about 2014. Readable as always, but I prefer the third-person narration to the books where he uses first; I prefer Reacher to be almost alone out in the flyover states and in some hamlet where he runs into trouble, in contrast to ones where he is in DC or LA with a group of helpers. And lastly, JR is not a character you're inclined to imitate traits from, because he has almost none. James Bond's Rolex and Bentleys, Travis McGee's Plymouth gin and Rolls pickup truck; those are attributes that stick in the mind. Reacher has coffee, pancakes, and turning left. That's about it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:23 AM (omVj0)
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It was a joke. Apparently a misfire but still . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
No worries, I got the joke the second time I read it
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)
No worries, I got the joke the second time I read it
Posted by: Farquad at August 31, 2025 11:23 AM (NtFTC)
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Is the "Who Dis?" supposed to be a writer, or a famous or infamous conspiracy theorist, or both?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:24 AM (omVj0)
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Thanks, book peeps, for another fine book thread.
It's an all-day thing, so check back occasionally for more bibliomania.
It's an all-day thing, so check back occasionally for more bibliomania.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 11:24 AM (kpS4V)
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I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps.
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Split infinitives. They leap out of the page at me.
I also find myself editing what I think are grammatical missteps.
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Split infinitives. They leap out of the page at me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 11:25 AM (kkTda)
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I'd have a hard time picking a favorite Ellison story. Probably have to choose from "Paladin of the Lost Hour," "Tired Old Man," "Shatterday," "Jeffty Is Five," "One Life Furnished in Early Poverty," and "All the Lies That Are My Life." Couple of decades ago, the list might have been different, and if I make it another decade or two it'll probably change again.
But, man, when he was cookin' there weren't many out there who could touch him. The man was GOOD.
But, man, when he was cookin' there weren't many out there who could touch him. The man was GOOD.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:25 AM (q3u5l)
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My favorite Ellison short story is "Life Hutch". I haven't read it since I was a kid but the story has always stuck with me.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025
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One of his very first sales, I think, and one of his more conventional stories.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 31, 2025
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One of his very first sales, I think, and one of his more conventional stories.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:26 AM (omVj0)
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OK, 11:22 thank you time!
Thank you!
Big round of applause please for All Hail Eris and her contribution this week.
Hope to see you here next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:22 AM (dmH0a)
You leaving, Weasel? Thread continues til the top of the hour.
All right everybody! Festival!
Thank you!
Big round of applause please for All Hail Eris and her contribution this week.
Hope to see you here next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:22 AM (dmH0a)
You leaving, Weasel? Thread continues til the top of the hour.
All right everybody! Festival!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 11:26 AM (0eaVi)
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225 ... "Speaking of pet peeves, I listen to a lot of audio books and robo-narrators are becoming more and more common not only on books but also on YouTubes and such. Their pronunciation is less than perfect."
I watch a lot of YouTube videos, mostly about literature and hobbies. As soon as I hear that robot voice I either leave or mute the sound. At best it is dull and uninflected and very distracting. I watch YT for knowledge and enthusiasm. Can you imagine what such a 'voice' would do to an audio version of LOTR, Tennyson's poetry or Shakespeare's Sonnets?
I watch a lot of YouTube videos, mostly about literature and hobbies. As soon as I hear that robot voice I either leave or mute the sound. At best it is dull and uninflected and very distracting. I watch YT for knowledge and enthusiasm. Can you imagine what such a 'voice' would do to an audio version of LOTR, Tennyson's poetry or Shakespeare's Sonnets?
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 11:26 AM (yTvNw)
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You leaving, Weasel? Thread continues til the top of the hour.
All right everybody! Festival!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 11:26 AM (0eaVi)
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No, not leaving. Just saying thanks!
All right everybody! Festival!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 11:26 AM (0eaVi)
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No, not leaving. Just saying thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:27 AM (dmH0a)
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Only using bookmarks. I don't write in books.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:32 AM (ZOv7s)
I do, in a lot in my conspyracy theory type books. Margine notes leading to further developements. I also copy the wiki page of the author(s) and fold them into the begining of the book. I think who wrote something is just as important as the book itself.
If I highlight a name I have some info in that person folded in the back.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 31, 2025 10:32 AM (ZOv7s)
I do, in a lot in my conspyracy theory type books. Margine notes leading to further developements. I also copy the wiki page of the author(s) and fold them into the begining of the book. I think who wrote something is just as important as the book itself.
If I highlight a name I have some info in that person folded in the back.
Posted by: Reforger at August 31, 2025 11:27 AM (sQ2Ql)
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No, not leaving. Just saying thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:27 AM (dmH0a)
OH, ok.
Psst. Ixnay on the estivalfay.
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:27 AM (dmH0a)
OH, ok.
Psst. Ixnay on the estivalfay.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 31, 2025 11:28 AM (0eaVi)
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But, man, when he was cookin' there weren't many out there who could touch him. The man was GOOD.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025
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"Jeffty," yes, and I'm oddly fond of "Deathbird" and how it works despite its unconventional structure.
He wrote two Man From U.N.C.L.E. episodes, both tongue-in-cheek ones in that show's "campy" season. And I happened to catch a Burke's Law of his from around 1963 that was a very neat mystery.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025
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"Jeffty," yes, and I'm oddly fond of "Deathbird" and how it works despite its unconventional structure.
He wrote two Man From U.N.C.L.E. episodes, both tongue-in-cheek ones in that show's "campy" season. And I happened to catch a Burke's Law of his from around 1963 that was a very neat mystery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:29 AM (omVj0)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 31, 2025 11:30 AM (8QPXz)
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249 ... Happy birthday, Wolfus. Hope your breakfast went well.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 11:31 AM (yTvNw)
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Wait until she notices the meat hooks on the wall just above the ceiling tile, the slit drain in the floor, and the oversize hose bib.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
I saw an episode of Abandon Places (or whatever it's called) about a rather charming small hospital outside of Berlin. Reinhard Heydrich was unsuccessfully treated there after the attack on him by the Czechs. Afterward, he was severely criticized for not using some Nazi antibiotic. He imported about 100 female prisoners from Ravensbruck concentration camp and implanted wood splinters, fabric etc. into their legs to simulate Heydrich's injuries treating half with the antibiotic and the using the other half as a control group to prove it wouldn't have saved Heydrich. I'm not sure of the results but several survived to testify against the good doctor. Anyway, that's science for you.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
I saw an episode of Abandon Places (or whatever it's called) about a rather charming small hospital outside of Berlin. Reinhard Heydrich was unsuccessfully treated there after the attack on him by the Czechs. Afterward, he was severely criticized for not using some Nazi antibiotic. He imported about 100 female prisoners from Ravensbruck concentration camp and implanted wood splinters, fabric etc. into their legs to simulate Heydrich's injuries treating half with the antibiotic and the using the other half as a control group to prove it wouldn't have saved Heydrich. I'm not sure of the results but several survived to testify against the good doctor. Anyway, that's science for you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:33 AM (L/fGl)
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What a gloriously rococo introduction, AHE! (bows)
Just dropping in to recommend a marvelously addictive YouTube series called "The Rest Is History," starring Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook: 2 amusing British gentlemen whose banter is part of the fun and whose scholarship is exemplary. They've done hundreds of episodes on everything from the ancient world to the 20th century.
Just dropping in to recommend a marvelously addictive YouTube series called "The Rest Is History," starring Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook: 2 amusing British gentlemen whose banter is part of the fun and whose scholarship is exemplary. They've done hundreds of episodes on everything from the ancient world to the 20th century.
Posted by: Beverly at August 31, 2025 11:33 AM (Epeb0)
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Excuse me, I would just like to get a bit of clarification, are pants still required for this thread?
Posted by: tankdemon at August 31, 2025 11:33 AM (kUdhB)
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This reminds me of the description of that sf writer who got cancelled bybthe woke mob because in his book, AI saw that humans abort inconvenient babies, and decided to pre-empt the possibility of humans deciding they were inconvenient.
Cannot remember the book or author - Nick something?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:22 AM (DoBxX)
Nick Cole, "CTRL-ALT REVOLT"
Cannot remember the book or author - Nick something?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 31, 2025 09:22 AM (DoBxX)
Nick Cole, "CTRL-ALT REVOLT"
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 31, 2025 11:35 AM (0vB2I)
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I mentioned writing in the margins of books. These are brief notes meant only for my eyes, mostly directions to various rabbit holes I intend to follow. They would be meaningless to anyone else. But they might lead to some 'interesting' conjectures from future readers.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025 11:35 AM (yTvNw)
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Seems a shame to destroy actual historical artifacts just because of what they later came to be associated with.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 11:06 AM (3nLb4)
Reading the thread, it appears the previous owner had the tiles put in. So scarcely "historical artifacts".
I don't think the karen bitch has a legal leg to stand on. It's just decor. It can be changed, and cheaply, too.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 31, 2025 11:06 AM (3nLb4)
Reading the thread, it appears the previous owner had the tiles put in. So scarcely "historical artifacts".
I don't think the karen bitch has a legal leg to stand on. It's just decor. It can be changed, and cheaply, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2025 11:35 AM (+o/4e)
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I could be remembering wrong, but that Burke's Law might have been his first tv script. If memory serves, one of his UNCLE shows got pulled from syndication, didn't it? Threat of suit from someone who recognized herself as the object of the parody?
The Ellison scripts everyone really remembers are the ones for Star Trek and Outer Limits, but the adaptations for the 80s Twilight Zone (couple of 'em scripted by Alan Brennert, I think) are faithful to source.
The Ellison scripts everyone really remembers are the ones for Star Trek and Outer Limits, but the adaptations for the 80s Twilight Zone (couple of 'em scripted by Alan Brennert, I think) are faithful to source.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:36 AM (q3u5l)
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262 All right everybody! Festival!
With festive little hats!
forWAR'd: At the Pinnacle of 9/10 Thinking: All they want to Do is DANCE....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUN0g-6rYsML
LET's EAT!'
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-BrennanBecomesSpookula
With festive little hats!
forWAR'd: At the Pinnacle of 9/10 Thinking: All they want to Do is DANCE....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUN0g-6rYsML
LET's EAT!'
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-BrennanBecomesSpookula
Posted by: MANFREd the Heat Seeking OBOE at August 31, 2025 11:36 AM (jZ3cw)
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I do care. If you don't care what words actually mean, you're not communicating. You're just making noises like a duck.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 11:12 AM (78a2H)
There is a word in Newspeak, said Syme, I don't know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like a duck. It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it is abuse, applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.
Unquestionably Syme will be vaporized, Winston thought again.
Posted by: Trimegistus at August 31, 2025 11:12 AM (78a2H)
There is a word in Newspeak, said Syme, I don't know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like a duck. It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it is abuse, applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.
Unquestionably Syme will be vaporized, Winston thought again.
Posted by: 1984 at August 31, 2025 11:37 AM (R/m4+)
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Good morning, Sunshines!
Posted by: Piper at August 31, 2025 11:38 AM (pZEOD)
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Happy birthday, Wolfus. Hope your breakfast went well.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025
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Food was good. The trip out and back, ditto. The new decor at Backer Crarrel . . . I'll save that for later.
This morning I had a half pipe of Luxury Twist Flake plus some little scraps of tobacco in the Large Chimney Orlik straight pipe. Good way to start a day.
Posted by: JTB at August 31, 2025
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Food was good. The trip out and back, ditto. The new decor at Backer Crarrel . . . I'll save that for later.
This morning I had a half pipe of Luxury Twist Flake plus some little scraps of tobacco in the Large Chimney Orlik straight pipe. Good way to start a day.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:38 AM (omVj0)
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Excuse me, I would just like to get a bit of clarification, are pants still required for this thread?
Posted by: tankdemon
That's only the first 100 posts.
Posted by: tankdemon
That's only the first 100 posts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
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I could be remembering wrong, but that Burke's Law might have been his first tv script. If memory serves, one of his UNCLE shows got pulled from syndication, didn't it? Threat of suit from someone who recognized herself as the object of the parody?
The Ellison scripts everyone really remembers are the ones for Star Trek and Outer Limits, but the adaptations for the 80s Twilight Zone (couple of 'em scripted by Alan Brennert, I think) are faithful to source.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025
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Yes, the second one, "The Pieces of Fate Affair," used altered (but not altered enough) names of people Harlan knew in the SF community. Judith Merrill, who was one of them, reportedly got incensed -- though Harlan told us that he spoke with her and she was not upset, but somehow the lawsuit dragged on and on anyway. So the episode did not re-run until CBN aired it in the '80s. It's on the DVD set, though.
The initial episode of the '80s Outer Limits was his own adaptation of his short story "Shatterday" . . . with a then barely-known Bruce Willis in the lead.
The Ellison scripts everyone really remembers are the ones for Star Trek and Outer Limits, but the adaptations for the 80s Twilight Zone (couple of 'em scripted by Alan Brennert, I think) are faithful to source.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025
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Yes, the second one, "The Pieces of Fate Affair," used altered (but not altered enough) names of people Harlan knew in the SF community. Judith Merrill, who was one of them, reportedly got incensed -- though Harlan told us that he spoke with her and she was not upset, but somehow the lawsuit dragged on and on anyway. So the episode did not re-run until CBN aired it in the '80s. It's on the DVD set, though.
The initial episode of the '80s Outer Limits was his own adaptation of his short story "Shatterday" . . . with a then barely-known Bruce Willis in the lead.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:42 AM (omVj0)
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You can probably ignore the pants requirement for the entire thread. The Horde won't mind, or tell on you -- half of 'em are probably ignoring the requirement themselves.
Your only worry is Bob from the NSA. But a little black tape over the computer's camera should take care of that. Maybe. We hope.
Your only worry is Bob from the NSA. But a little black tape over the computer's camera should take care of that. Maybe. We hope.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:42 AM (q3u5l)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)
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Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
Wait. She didn't tour the house before she bought it?
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
Wait. She didn't tour the house before she bought it?
Posted by: Tuna at August 31, 2025 11:43 AM (lJ0H4)
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275 Excuse me, I would just like to get a bit of clarification, are pants still required for this thread?
Posted by: tankdemon
That's only the first 100 posts.
An Inexorable Outcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaT7F7lMEY
https://www.tinyurl.com/ctHARRIS-FamousLastWords
Why ask Why? when How is so much more Fun. LIBs. counting down the Days...
Remember who did this: Clinton, Obama, IceKing Joe...
Posted by: tankdemon
That's only the first 100 posts.
An Inexorable Outcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaT7F7lMEY
https://www.tinyurl.com/ctHARRIS-FamousLastWords
Why ask Why? when How is so much more Fun. LIBs. counting down the Days...
Remember who did this: Clinton, Obama, IceKing Joe...
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at August 31, 2025 11:46 AM (vks0q)
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275 Excuse me, I would just like to get a bit of clarification, are pants still required for this thread?
Posted by: tankdemon
That's only the first 100 posts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
Donald Duck Protocol initiated.
Posted by: tankdemon
That's only the first 100 posts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
Donald Duck Protocol initiated.
Posted by: tankdemon at August 31, 2025 11:46 AM (kUdhB)
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She has saved us!
AOC Brags About Getting New Trash Cans Placed in Area Known for Open-Air Prostitution and Drug Use
AOC Brags About Getting New Trash Cans Placed in Area Known for Open-Air Prostitution and Drug Use
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:46 AM (L/fGl)
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Pennsylvania woman horrified to find a massive swastika and German war eagle tiled into her basement floor after purchasing the home.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
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I'd love to have that as a piece of history in my house.
The woman is now suing the seller
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
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I'd love to have that as a piece of history in my house.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:46 AM (omVj0)
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Hasn't she suffered enough?
Letitia James Reportedly Caught Harboring Fugitive in Her "Primary Residence"
Letitia James Reportedly Caught Harboring Fugitive in Her "Primary Residence"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:48 AM (L/fGl)
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Weasel, if you're still here, who is the "Who Dis?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:48 AM (omVj0)
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Maybe the seller could settle any lawsuit by offering to replace it with a hammer and sickle?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:49 AM (q3u5l)
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Maybe the seller could settle any lawsuit by offering to replace it with a hammer and sickle?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:49 AM (q3u5l)
Seller should counter-sue for "egregious c***edness".
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:49 AM (q3u5l)
Seller should counter-sue for "egregious c***edness".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2025 11:51 AM (+o/4e)
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Things might get sporty.
Eight-in-Ten Britons Say UK in a “Bad State”, With Majority Expecting it to Get Worse
Eight-in-Ten Britons Say UK in a “Bad State”, With Majority Expecting it to Get Worse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)
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Weasel, if you're still here, who is the "Who Dis?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:48 AM (omVj0)
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Eris? Want to handle this?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:48 AM (omVj0)
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Eris? Want to handle this?
Posted by: Weasel at August 31, 2025 11:51 AM (dmH0a)
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Oops: "Shatterday" with Bruce Willis was not on the '80s Outer Limits, but on the new Twilight Zone in '85.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:52 AM (omVj0)
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Wait. Could that be Robert Silverberg?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:52 AM (omVj0)
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Eight-in-Ten Britons Say UK in a “Bad State”, With Majority Expecting it to Get Worse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
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Half that 80% likely thinks there aren't enough migrants and native Britons are too uppity.
Eight-in-Ten Britons Say UK in a “Bad State”, With Majority Expecting it to Get Worse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
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Half that 80% likely thinks there aren't enough migrants and native Britons are too uppity.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2025 11:53 AM (kkTda)
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Zombie Trump is the best Trump.
Trump Attacks Illinois Governor On Chicago Crime: "Straighten It Out, Fast, Or We’re Coming"
Trump Attacks Illinois Governor On Chicago Crime: "Straighten It Out, Fast, Or We’re Coming"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur! at August 31, 2025 11:54 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:54 AM (q3u5l)
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If we're talking the who dis, that ain't Robert Silverberg. Looks awfully familiar from somewhere, but I can't place him.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:56 AM (q3u5l)
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Eight-in-Ten Britons Say UK in a “Bad State”, With Majority Expecting it to Get Worse
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
The remaining two-in-ten say it is wonderful that they have finally brought in newcomers to do the grooming and gang rapes the natives were not willing to do.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur!
The remaining two-in-ten say it is wonderful that they have finally brought in newcomers to do the grooming and gang rapes the natives were not willing to do.
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There was a cover painting on the old Fantasy & Science Fiction magazine in the '70s celebrating Silverberg's work, and the face the artist used (suggesting RS, I suppose) looked something like the Who Dis? guy, except with darker hair.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:56 AM (omVj0)
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I'm reading "Is Paris Burning?" by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre (1964). It is riveting. I had no idea how Paris was liberated in 1944. A French friend chatted to me on Aug 26 that it was Liberation Day and all the church bells were ringing. That got me interested. Highly recommend this interesting book. It's not a novel but reads like one.
Posted by: microcosme at August 31, 2025 11:56 AM (Xx9uC)
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Regarding the Great H Controversy of 2025:
Use a if the H is pronounced. A historian.
Sean if the H is not pronounced. An hour.
At least, that's what I learned in school.
Use a if the H is pronounced. A historian.
Sean if the H is not pronounced. An hour.
At least, that's what I learned in school.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025 11:57 AM (iJfKG)
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Zombie Trump is the best Trump.
Trump Attacks Illinois Governor On Chicago Crime: "Straighten It Out, Fast, Or We’re Coming"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur
Cut there federally police funding, resources, and coordination to zero.
Make them scream "Help"
Trump Attacks Illinois Governor On Chicago Crime: "Straighten It Out, Fast, Or We’re Coming"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, We're Living On Land Stolen From the Dinosaur
Cut there federally police funding, resources, and coordination to zero.
Make them scream "Help"
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 11:58 AM (/lPRQ)
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On that happy note, I'm off to screw up a few chores here at Casa Some Guy (shouldn't bother, but my fumbling provides laughs for Mrs Some Guy).
Eris, Weasel, thanks for the thread. Will check back later to see who the who dis was.
Have a good one, gang.
Eris, Weasel, thanks for the thread. Will check back later to see who the who dis was.
Have a good one, gang.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:58 AM (q3u5l)
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Just dropping in to recommend a marvelously addictive YouTube series called "The Rest Is History," starring Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook: 2 amusing British gentlemen whose banter is part of the fun and whose scholarship is exemplary. They've done hundreds of episodes on everything from the ancient world to the 20th century.
Posted by: Beverly
That's a great podcast, and Tom Holland has additionally written a ton of wonderful books on Rome, Islam and Christianity.
Posted by: Beverly
That's a great podcast, and Tom Holland has additionally written a ton of wonderful books on Rome, Islam and Christianity.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 31, 2025 11:58 AM (/RHNq)
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Use a if the H is pronounced. A historian.
Use an if the H is not pronounced. An hour.
At least, that's what I learned in school.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025
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That sounds right. But I seem to recall the Brits use "an hotel," so perhaps they use "an historian."
Use a if the H is pronounced. A historian.
Use an if the H is not pronounced. An hour.
At least, that's what I learned in school.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2025
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That sounds right. But I seem to recall the Brits use "an hotel," so perhaps they use "an historian."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:59 AM (omVj0)
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That sounds right. But I seem to recall the Brits use "an hotel," so perhaps they use "an historian."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Brits never pronounce the 'H' if the first letter of a word.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
Brits never pronounce the 'H' if the first letter of a word.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025 12:01 PM (/lPRQ)
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Wait. She didn't tour the house before she bought it?"
Two years ago. The story has a few holes...
Two years ago. The story has a few holes...
Posted by: man at August 31, 2025 12:02 PM (tubbA)
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That sounds right. But I seem to recall the Brits use "an hotel," so perhaps they use "an historian."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:59 AM (omVj0)
I believe they do. Since many of the Latinate words in English came via France, and French does not pronounce an initial "h".
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:59 AM (omVj0)
I believe they do. Since many of the Latinate words in English came via France, and French does not pronounce an initial "h".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2025 12:02 PM (+o/4e)
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That sounds right. But I seem to recall the Brits use "an hotel," so perhaps they use "an historian."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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Brits never pronounce the 'H' if the first letter of a word.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025
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The Cockney dialect doesn't, and I'm sure there are others, like Yorkshire. But the Received Pronunciation, the classic BBC dialect, still pronounces initial H. (I think.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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Brits never pronounce the 'H' if the first letter of a word.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 31, 2025
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The Cockney dialect doesn't, and I'm sure there are others, like Yorkshire. But the Received Pronunciation, the classic BBC dialect, still pronounces initial H. (I think.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 12:02 PM (omVj0)
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Noodus CBD
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 12:03 PM (omVj0)
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Wait. She didn't tour the house before she bought it?"
Two years ago. The story has a few holes...
Posted by: man at August 31, 2025 12:02 PM (tubbA)
Wait until she finds the spy-cams hidden in the toilets.
Two years ago. The story has a few holes...
Posted by: man at August 31, 2025 12:02 PM (tubbA)
Wait until she finds the spy-cams hidden in the toilets.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2025 12:04 PM (+o/4e)
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It is more complicated
Use "an" when the H is not pronounced (an herb [in the US])
use "a" when the stress is on the first syllable, (a history of cheese, or it is a horse)
use "an" when the stress is on a subsequent syllable (an historical fact)
Use "an" when the H is not pronounced (an herb [in the US])
use "a" when the stress is on the first syllable, (a history of cheese, or it is a horse)
use "an" when the stress is on a subsequent syllable (an historical fact)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 31, 2025 12:05 PM (rbvCR)
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Just finished reading "The House of Seven Gables" by Nathaniel Hawthorne.
The curse of a man unfairly executed during the Salem witch trials is inherited by succeeding generations of the puritan who condemned him. The house is a metaphor for the decay and decline of the family.
Hawthorne descriptions of the character's fears and paranoia are detailed and harrowing. It is a page turner and I was motivated to see how the story was resolved. Recommended.
The curse of a man unfairly executed during the Salem witch trials is inherited by succeeding generations of the puritan who condemned him. The house is a metaphor for the decay and decline of the family.
Hawthorne descriptions of the character's fears and paranoia are detailed and harrowing. It is a page turner and I was motivated to see how the story was resolved. Recommended.
Posted by: joemarine at August 31, 2025 12:10 PM (y171U)
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196. Sue the seller for the cost of replacing it. Easy win. No drama.
Oops, I see the main issue here.
Oops, I see the main issue here.
Posted by: From about That Time at August 31, 2025 12:18 PM (n4GiU)
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And who was that? Willowed, so I'll never know.
Posted by: From about That Time at August 31, 2025 12:19 PM (n4GiU)
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Weasel, if you're still here, who is the "Who Dis?"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:48 AM (omVj0)
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It's Robert Anton Wilson.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 31, 2025 11:48 AM (omVj0)
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It's Robert Anton Wilson.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 31, 2025 02:31 PM (Rz7ER)
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"Who was it who said that all reading except the reading you're forced into for school or work is reading for pleasure?"
Raymond Chandler wrote something of the sort in his essay "The Simple Art of Murder:"
"All men who read escape from something else into what lies behind the printed page; the quality of the dream may be argued, but its release has become a functional necessity. All men must escape at times from the deadly rhythm of their private thoughts. It is part of the process of life among thinking beings. It is one of the things that distinguish them from the
three-toed sloth; he apparently—one can never be quite sure—is perfectly content hanging upside down on a branch, not even reading
Walter Lippmann. I hold no particular brief for the detective story as the ideal escape. I merely say that all reading for pleasure is escape, whether it be Greek, mathematics, astronomy, Benedetto Croce, or The Diary of the Forgotten Man. To say otherwise is to be an intellectual snob, and a juvenile at the art of living."
Raymond Chandler wrote something of the sort in his essay "The Simple Art of Murder:"
"All men who read escape from something else into what lies behind the printed page; the quality of the dream may be argued, but its release has become a functional necessity. All men must escape at times from the deadly rhythm of their private thoughts. It is part of the process of life among thinking beings. It is one of the things that distinguish them from the
three-toed sloth; he apparently—one can never be quite sure—is perfectly content hanging upside down on a branch, not even reading
Walter Lippmann. I hold no particular brief for the detective story as the ideal escape. I merely say that all reading for pleasure is escape, whether it be Greek, mathematics, astronomy, Benedetto Croce, or The Diary of the Forgotten Man. To say otherwise is to be an intellectual snob, and a juvenile at the art of living."
Posted by: Pope John 20th at August 31, 2025 02:53 PM (yl1YV)
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Posted by: Beverly at August 31, 2025 04:10 PM (Epeb0)
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Apropos: The Grand Inquisitor, a famous chapter in The Brothers Karamazov. Actually a short story in itself told as a fable by one of the brothers.
Posted by: Beverly at August 31, 2025 04:12 PM (Epeb0)
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You're welcome, Guy. It doesn't appear as if the Chandler line is exactly what you were thinking of, but it seemed to express a somewhat similar sentiment.
Posted by: Pope John 20th at August 31, 2025 11:20 PM (yl1YV)
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Pope John,
Maybe not exact, but close enough for government work. And I had read that Chandler essay some time in the late 70s/early 80s. So...
Thanks again.
Maybe not exact, but close enough for government work. And I had read that Chandler essay some time in the late 70s/early 80s. So...
Thanks again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at August 31, 2025 11:45 PM (q3u5l)
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