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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:01 AM (N1tpc) 2
Oh, wow, I thought I'd be #5 or something
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:01 AM (N1tpc) 3
guess I better nood
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Posted by: Polka will never die at August 28, 2025 11:02 AM (5xvZ1) 5
Top 10! Yay me!
Posted by: NR Pax at August 28, 2025 11:02 AM (svLOV) 6
The west wasn't won with a registered tranny.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 28, 2025 11:02 AM (t2Ch6) 7
It's oddly funny that one response to this is "Protect Trans kids!"
You know from the 0 mass shooting non-leftists.... Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:03 AM (7QRaR) 8
Mornin' all. Had my first zappage tomorrow. No super-powers gained yet. Will report if it changes.
At least it ain't chemo. Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at August 28, 2025 11:04 AM (OUMaO) 9
We need things to start early. We need adults raising kids to stop this crap cold. We need therapists who are courageous enough to tell these poor people "You are the right gender so let's focus on the real problem."
Posted by: NR Pax at August 28, 2025 11:04 AM (svLOV) Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at August 28, 2025 11:04 AM (OUMaO) 11
Transgender people are insane.
They need compassion and care so that they can accept who they actually are, not who they think they are. But the toxic empathy in our world says that encouraging someone in their delusions is the way to be compassionate. It's not, and that exact toxic empathy is what is destroying the west right now. (In a multitude of ways.) Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:05 AM (N1tpc) 12
6 The west wasn't won with a registered tranny.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats Give it time. In a few years, someone will post "research" that shows a lot of the people that settled the west were closet transgenders and having to hide their true selves made them violent. Posted by: NR Pax at August 28, 2025 11:05 AM (svLOV) 13
Yes mental health is an issue. I have a wife with severe mental health problems. But there is also evil and giving oneself over to it.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at August 28, 2025 11:05 AM (cApz2) 14
So should society be honest with itself and admit that transsexualism is an issue fraught with danger? That those who suffer from it are a much greater risk to society than most? Should the beginning of GAHT or HRT automatically trigger the equivalent of a red flag law?
Someone on Facebook ran the numbers. Remove all the police shootings, self-inflicted gunshots, and gang shootings, there have been four mass shootings this year. Two of them were by trannies. That's 50%. Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 11:06 AM (V4yUe) 15
Mornin' all. Had my first zappage tomorrow. No super-powers gained yet. Will report if it changes.
At least it ain't chemo. Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at August 28, 2025 11:04 AM (OUMaO) You need to combine some wal-mart shrimp with the zappage to get super-powers. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:06 AM (N1tpc) 16
"Protect Trans kids" is really "Protect the *production* of Trans kids" (i.e. sterilized marginal-genetics).
Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:07 AM (7QRaR) 17
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Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 28, 2025 11:08 AM (ycs3a) 18
Anyone who says woke/DEI is dead needs a reality check. It’s very much alive and well.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:09 AM (wrRTB) Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:09 AM (g47mK) 20
Has Tampon Timmy weighed in on the tranny church slaughter yet?
The mayor of Minneapolis, for his part, basically said “where is your God now?”; and denigrated prayer - while children were murdered praying in a church - so he could try and deflect and dissemble around the fact a mentally ill sex pervert groomed and cultivated by leftist wackjobs is the proximate cause here. They well know this, it’s their hill to die on politically. Mental cases have more rights than you do. “Your death before their dishonor”. They must maintain the fairy tale that these people aren’t fucked in the head. You’re the problem. Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 11:09 AM (TgO2L) 21
Yes mental health is an issue. I have a wife with severe mental health problems. But there is also evil and giving oneself over to it.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at August 28, 2025 11:05 AM (cApz2) It's cultivated evil. You take a confused, mentally ill person (who may not even be suffering from gender dysphoria, initially) and tell them, first, that they were born in the wrong body and that they need to fix their body, not their mind. Next, when that doesn't solve the issue, because they know they are still the sex they were born (no matter how much surgery and chemicals they take), you tell them the reason it doesn't work is that christian wreckers, saboteurs, and kulaks won't agree that they are the new sex. Honestly, this seems like this was the plan from the start. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:10 AM (N1tpc) 22
Even if we were 100% successful in keeping guns legally out of the hands of criminals and violent lunatics, the criminals and violent lunatics would still find some illegal way to get them.
And if they couldn't get guns, they would get swords or knives or axes or molotovs. A deranged tranny with butcher knives could have done almost as much damage in that church as the deranged tranny shooter did. There is really only one solution: arm everyone. Let anyone who wants to carry carry. Open carry is better because it's an instant deterrent. The thing about all these deranged trannies is that, despite their insanity, they are very capable of forming attack plans, avoiding detection, and surely striking where they know they'll be little or no resistance. They attack schools, churches, and other soft targets. For some reason, these murderers never attack gun ranges, Texas biker bars, martial arts studios, or WNBA games where they might be pelted with neon green dildos. Gee, I wonder why? Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:11 AM (iFTx/) 23
The trans are being used to destroy culture and God. It's just convenient to the libs that's all. It wasn't an issue for anyone so they made it one.
Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 11:11 AM (0y1cv) 24
I didn’t get to respond to those posters who said that there was no reason for a background check to have flagged the trannie shooter,
Unless I’m wrong the guy had a pretty extensive social media history. Do background checks not do a social media check ? I mean that’s where all the nuts who shouldn’t have guns post their violent intentions. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:11 AM (EYmYM) 25
Thx CBD. I think most rational people realize the tranny crap is based on mental illness. Unfortunately the sheep in the Dem party use it to virtue signal. I have leftist friends who think it's normal and wonderful. It would take the mass die off of trannies to make them even think they "might" be wrong. It's a social contagion
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2025 11:11 AM (rRoxM) 26
" Those ridiculous and freedom-stealing "red flag laws" are an affront to our constitution and should be eliminated from our legal system. Confiscation because some angry wife in the middle of a divorce, telling some magistrate that she is afraid of her soon-to-be ex-husband's guns, is not the proper use of government power."
This time a jillion. Posted by: Doof at August 28, 2025 11:12 AM (wkXwO) 27
Leftists keep telling us we need to take guns away from law-abiding sane people but don't seem very worried about how mentally ill people can absolutely get guns when they want to go shoot innocent people. In fact, any constitutional or legislative changes they propose do not do a thing to address the fact that evil people seem to have no problem obtaining whatever weapons they want.
All the laws and restrictions only apply to the people who would never murder anyone. (I'm classifying self-defense as not murder.) Posted by: Emmie at August 28, 2025 11:12 AM (FMtrg) 28
We have allowed a psychological disorder to govern its sufferers, instead of treating that disorder and attempting to bring their behaviors back into the range of normal or common or simply functional.
======= Modernism and technological 'advances' such as smart phones, social media, etc. are causing accelerated spreading of mental illness via social contagion. Bad enough problems with alienation in mass societies--computers and the internet have kicked that into overdrive helped along by the not so caring Big Pharma-Big Medicine complex. Severe mental illness needs treatment in a confined and stable situation (just like my mother needs care in a memory care facility where she takes her pills on time and is confined to the facility). Like those with severe mental illness--dementia patients need stability in their lives, required hygiene, someone to provide medical care as needed, someone there to make sure they eat, take their pills, get out and socialize, and have someone else manage their finances. Expecting community health clinics to restore those with severe mental illness to health via medications only is a pipe dream. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:13 AM (ctrM5) 29
NYT Headline: Minneapolis Shooting suspect Knew Her Target but Motive is a Mystery
So there you we will never know why “she” did it. Case closed. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:14 AM (wrRTB) 30
The *real* problem is White Christian Nationalism.
Posted by: Coming soon to an Opinion page near you at August 28, 2025 11:14 AM (PiwSw) 31
Well, they hate God, so...
Posted by: fly gal at August 28, 2025 11:14 AM (PujQp) 32
Smear the queer doesn't look so cruel now, huh?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 28, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew8) Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:15 AM (g47mK) 34
Troons are violent, self hating sexual deviants. They should be sterilized and locked up somewhere in Uganda.
Posted by: Ban The Troons at August 28, 2025 11:15 AM (7eAtR) 35
....and fit white women wearing jeans!
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:15 AM (g47mK) 36
I think it will be a lot easier (and ultimately cheaper) to hire protection for schools than to have a shit-ton of judges cookie cutter the 2nd Amendment to fit their particular political views on Red Flag laws.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 11:15 AM (2WIwB) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) 38
Unless I’m wrong the guy had a pretty extensive social media history. Do background checks not do a social media check ? I mean that’s where all the nuts who shouldn’t have guns post their violent intentions.
Posted by: polynikes ========= A few states do--New York mebbe? Problem with social media is 1st Amendment adjacent and the whole mess of what a 'true threat' is under it. Brandenburg v. OH focuses on imminent threat of immediate action showing the specific threat, the means to carry it out, and the opportunity to do so. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5) 39
Transgender people are insane.
I would argue that most 'transgender' people are, at worst, confused and are driven mad by the 'compassionate' care given by those who wish to be publicly fêted for their actions in destroying a life. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (ExV1e) 40
The problem is, who gets to determine who the lunatics are, and by what criteria? That's a really slippery slope and a very nebulous area of science/psychiatry.
Posted by: bjjfiter at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (ccsjf) 41
NPR: westman’s gender identity wasn’t clear.
Oh really? He legally changed his name and on the petition he said I’m doing it because I identify as a woman. But it’s still not clear. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (wrRTB) 42
37 Open Source Intel
@Osint613 · 21h 21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) ======= Which is an interesting contrast to the finding from the NYT that Gen-Z is the most Republican generation in more than a century, maybe ever. Radicalization and polarization. It might be a self-feeding cycle. Gen-Z know how fucking insane the left is because the left in Gen-Z are fucking insane to their faces all day, every day. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO) 43
Shockingly, the left and their media allies are trying to change the subject, and instead of looking at the multiple mass murders their perverted gender ideology has caused, instead focus themselves on taking away constitutional rights from normal people.
Funny, how when the left is fully responsible for a preventable tragedy, they insist we ignore those facts, and focus our anger on trying to subjugate everyone else. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 11:18 AM (0U5gm) 44
Prayer request
Dear poster "Tecumseh Tea" in the hospital again with heart issues. Please pray that they can figure out what's going on and how to treat it. Thanks Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 11:18 AM (2GCMq) 45
Radicalization and polarization. It might be a self-feeding cycle. Gen-Z know how fucking insane the left is because the left in Gen-Z are fucking insane to their faces all day, every day. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO) Yeah I think k that’s a big part of it. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:19 AM (wrRTB) 46
A few states do--New York mebbe? Problem with social media is 1st Amendment adjacent and the whole mess of what a 'true threat' is under it. Brandenburg v. OH focuses on imminent threat of immediate action showing the specific threat, the means to carry it out, and the opportunity to do so.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5 I agree about First Amendment issues but it’s not about suppressing that right but rather that violent speech should be a flag for further investigation on a background check . Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:19 AM (EYmYM) 47
Trannies are all batshit insane, and should be locked up until definitively cured. Of course they should not have firearms. Or knives. Or fists.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 11:19 AM (E50Nb) 48
@44 prayers for Tecumseh Tea. Get well, good luck and God bless
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2025 11:20 AM (rRoxM) 49
I can understand hormone therapy, but I always thought they were too jaded to moan.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 28, 2025 11:20 AM (0eaVi) 50
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Radicalization and polarization. It might be a self-feeding cycle. Gen-Z know how fucking insane the left is because the left in Gen-Z are fucking insane to their faces all day, every day. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO) Yeah I think k that’s a big part of it. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:19 AM (wrRTB) ======= https://x.com/AbeTheShinzo/status/ 1960795487444914433 Gen-Z men see this shit. Lib Boomers do not. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO) 51
Do background checks not do a social media check ?
AFAIK, they do not, nor should they. The government should not track my social media on the off chance that I may purchase a firearm today. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e) 52
>>We have allowed a psychological disorder to govern its sufferers, instead of treating that disorder and attempting to bring their behaviors back into the range of normal or common or simply functional.
With an estimated 3+ million trans in the US, and hospitals bragging about how much money they make on the surgeries and lifetime prescriptions, we're way past "allowing" -- they are targeting, grooming, and mutilating them before they're old enough, or have time enough, to consider the ramifications of what they've been convinced they must do. This is evil, and it's not enough to stop the procedures. As long as the ghouls who have been preying on vulnerable children, and those who are making money off of this are punished, it will not stop. Posted by: Lizzy at August 28, 2025 11:21 AM (GbwPZ) 53
Transgender people are insane.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:05 AM (N1tpc) - Get a color TV or a Sony Betamax or a TV video game - get it NOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!! Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:21 AM (3447G) 54
Open Source Intel
@Osint613 · 21h 21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) ======= Which is an interesting contrast to the finding from the NYT that Gen-Z is the most Republican generation in more than a century, maybe ever. Radicalization and polarization. It might be a self-feeding cycle. Gen-Z know how fucking insane the left is because the left in Gen-Z are fucking insane to their faces all day, every day. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (GBKbO) ______ Which is more evidence for me to continue to be very skeptical about these stats and polls, in either direction. I'd love to believe that Z is the most Republican generation like evah. Do I believe it? No. I think more likely Z is fickle and blows with the wind. Republican is cool right now, or at least Democrap is totes uncool. So Z identifies with the cool winners. But the calculus might change or even reverse in the coming years. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (iFTx/) 55
I would argue that most 'transgender' people are, at worst, confused and are driven mad by the 'compassionate' care given by those who wish to be publicly fêted for their actions in destroying a life.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (ExV1e) Nah. They're fucking insane. We need to reopen the looney bins. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (g8Ew8) 56
"Should the beginning of GAHT or HRT automatically trigger the equivalent of a red flag law?"
For the trans freaks......It should trigger immediate transfer to an insane asylum. Make Asylums Great Again!!! Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (2J/Lj) 57
51 IIRC, one of the Commie states, maybe Oregon or Washington, has the permitting (firearms) authority do a little dive into one's social media.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (gm9Sb) 58
21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) Only if you count LUGs and incels as homosexuals. I was, I suppose, an incel as a yoot but it never made me want penis. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (ExV1e) 59
21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S.
Posted by: Biden's Dog ======== Bullshit. Figures on sexuality are about like those on self perceptions of likability, faithfulness to partners, drug use, etc. Crappy survey design including broad questions, research designs not triangulated to actual specific actions rather than statements, and thus prone to extreme exaggeration of the alleged effects measured. In this tired old days of lying academics, ideologically driven media, and insane Democrats, the actual figures are much less (wife is a veteran teacher and the gays, troons, etc are very much a small minority of students. What people say is not what they do especially if they get social cred (perceived) for being trendy. Young people are specifically at risk for what survey researchers call socially acceptable answers. For those on the left, claiming trans, bi racial, etc. status gives pokemon points just as older people brag about Native American ancestry. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:23 AM (ctrM5) 60
54 Which is more evidence for me to continue to be very skeptical about these stats and polls, in either direction.
I'd love to believe that Z is the most Republican generation like evah. Do I believe it? No. I think more likely Z is fickle and blows with the wind. Republican is cool right now, or at least Democrap is totes uncool. So Z identifies with the cool winners. But the calculus might change or even reverse in the coming years. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (iFTx/) ====== The most Republican thing comes from registration data. I don't think the history of people forming political foundational beliefs in early adulthood shows that they mostly stay there over time. I think it's fairly solid. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO) 61
https://x.com/AbeTheShinzo/status/
1960795487444914433 Gen-Z men see this shit. Lib Boomers do not. Posted by: TheJamesMadison — I know this is what they think but seeing it in writing still makes think wow!! Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (wrRTB) 62
AFAIK, they do not, nor should they. The government should not track my social media on the off chance that I may purchase a firearm today.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e) They aren’t tracking . They are conducting a background check when someone requests to purchase a firearm. The definition of a background check. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (EYmYM) 63
Open Source Intel
@Osint613 · 21h 21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) _____ Probably true if you include the other 57 letters that make up this sick farce of a stupid joke. There's probably a letter in there for me somewhere, as well as most other people out there. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (iFTx/) 64
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Probably true if you include the other 57 letters that make up this sick farce of a stupid joke. There's probably a letter in there for me somewhere, as well as most other people out there. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (iFTx/) ====== I think it's demi-sexual that is defined as, "sometimes horny, but not always." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO) 65
>>Gen-Z know how fucking insane the left is because the left in Gen-Z are fucking insane to their faces all day, every day.
They had the LGBT stuff forced on them from every angle - kids books, tv, school, movies, church (in some cases), etc.. They have been oppressed by it and are saying "STOP. ENOUGH!" Posted by: Lizzy at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (GbwPZ) 66
In light of yesterday's shooting thru a a church window ...
Interesting fact: Many church across America have closed for one of the least obvious reasons. Their stained glass windows. It seems that these windows are of great monetary value, that these churches can't really cash in on, but they are left with the financial burden to insure them, which has a big price tag. Posted by: SMOD at August 28, 2025 11:25 AM (RHGPo) 67
12 6 The west wasn't won with a registered tranny.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats Give it time. In a few years, someone will post "research" that shows a lot of the people that settled the west were closet transgenders and having to hide their true selves made them violent. Posted by: NR Pax at August 28, 2025 11:05 AM (svLOV) Don't give Netflix any new ideas. Posted by: Farquad at August 28, 2025 11:25 AM (NtFTC) 68
I think there’s a misconception about GenZ being super duper totes Republican. They’re not. They’re the most Republican group of their age in a long time or maybe ever.
Traditionally young people are left and they get more right as they age. GenZ is starting out more right that usual. Which means if history holds as they age they’ll be blood red in their 40s and 50s. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:26 AM (wrRTB) 69
Which is more evidence for me to continue to be very skeptical about these stats and polls, in either direction.
I'd love to believe that Z is the most Republican generation like evah. Do I believe it? No. I think more likely Z is fickle and blows with the wind. Republican is cool right now, or at least Democrap is totes uncool. So Z identifies with the cool winners. But the calculus might change or even reverse in the coming years. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:22 AM (iFTx/) ====== The most Republican thing comes from registration data. I don't think the history of people forming political foundational beliefs in early adulthood shows that they mostly stay there over time. I think it's fairly solid. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:23 AM (GBKbO) ______ So we're gonna crush elections for the next 25 years then, right? I wish I believe this. I don't. We are riding a nice crest of a MAGA wave. Let's keep it going as long as we can. There's this thing about waves, though. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:26 AM (iFTx/) 70
Prayers don't do anything to stop these?
Neither, it seems, do background checks. Or gun-liberated zones. Now we just have to wait for the next glorious "solution" the anti-gun lobby wants to cost upon us. "Our thoughts and laws want to be with you." Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:26 AM (7QRaR) 71
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‘ the left is because the left in Gen-Z are fucking insane to their faces all day, every day.’ The left are fucking insane in all generations. Why aren’t other generations like Gen Z? Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 11:26 AM (jbnUc) 72
>>I'd love to believe that Z is the most Republican generation like evah. Do I believe it? No. I think more likely Z is fickle and blows with the wind. Republican is cool right now, or at least Democrap is totes uncool. So Z identifies with the cool winners. But the calculus might change or even reverse in the coming years.
I'd agree that they are not Republicans. They are, in some cased more conservative, and wish Trump went harder. The squishy Republicans seem to be doing everything they can to alienate them by being Dem Lite. Will be interesting to see where it goes -- though, they are definitely NOT progressive or woke. Posted by: Lizzy at August 28, 2025 11:27 AM (GbwPZ) 73
69 So we're gonna crush elections for the next 25 years then, right? I wish I believe this. I don't. We are riding a nice crest of a MAGA wave. Let's keep it going as long as we can. There's this thing about waves, though.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:26 AM (iFTx/) ====== I think the dominant narrative over the next 25 years is going to be Millennials vs. Z. Which group turns out more? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:27 AM (GBKbO) 74
These people are insane. They are killing innocent Children!
Nothing more needs to be said. They need to be locked away from society for their own good and ours. Posted by: Case at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (iwlvf) 75
71 The left are fucking insane in all generations. Why aren’t other generations like Gen Z?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 11:26 AM (jbnUc) ======= Because of social media. https://x.com/AbeTheShinzo/status/ 1960795487444914433 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO) 76
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at August 28, 2025 11:04 AM (OUMaO)
Congratulations Brother Tim (I actually do have a Brother Tim), The Mrs has one scheduled . Hope it goes as well. Posted by: Javems at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (8I4hW) 77
Again, the 2nd Amendment is not the problem, it's a people problem and specifically a mental health and cultural problem.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (G9tAN) 78
9 Transgender people are insane.
I would argue that most 'transgender' people are, at worst, confused and are driven mad by the 'compassionate' care given by those who wish to be publicly fêted for their actions in destroying a life. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (ExV1e) This. Initiation into trans culture involves disowning your family and all previous beliefs, declaring that the name your parents gave you is now "dead", then taking on a new name in a "naming ceremony". Almost like a cult. You can't tell me that the trans plague currently afflicting our kids wasn't planned and executed by the Left to weaponize our own children against us. Posted by: Polka will never die at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (7ucdS) 79
66 There was a rash of stained glass window thefts in my Ohio home town during the 80s. Both in churches and private homes. A lot of older houses, even lower middle class, had one or two stained glass windows, usually, like in our house, on a stair landing.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (gm9Sb) 80
They aren’t tracking . They are conducting a background check when someone requests to purchase a firearm. The definition of a background check.
Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (EYmYM) I don't know where you live but, 'round these parts, the background check takes about 15 minutes. Ain't no one trying to look up all my twitter posts to see if I'm a bad guy. Think about who is in government. Now, think about the idea of granting them authority to deny you an enumerated right because they decided that you said something bad. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (ExV1e) Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (viF8m) 82
21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S.
Posted by: Biden's Dog ======== Bullshit. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:23 AM (ctrM5) - OK. But I asked Grok anyway: Recent data indicates that around 20% to 30% of U.S. Generation Z adults (born between 1997 and 2012) identify as LGBTQ+. Specifically, a 2024 Gallup survey found that 22.3% of Gen Z adults identify as LGBTQ+, with a significant portion identifying as bisexual (15.3%). A 2024 PRRI report reported a higher figure, with 28% of Gen Z adults (ages 18–25) identifying as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or queer. These numbers reflect a notable increase compared to older generations, driven largely by greater social acceptance and visibility. Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (3447G) 83
I didn’t get to respond to those posters who said that there was no reason for a background check to have flagged the trannie shooter,
Unless I’m wrong the guy had a pretty extensive social media history. Do background checks not do a social media check ? I mean that’s where all the nuts who shouldn’t have guns post their violent intentions. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:11 AM (EYmYM) Here's a solution: make parents and other involved adults, like teachers and therapists, and doctors, legally liable for any deaths or destruction caused by trannies they encourage or humor. Any parent who does not want to take on this burden: disown the child, and kick it out of the home. If Mama supports the tranny, absolute grounds for Dad to get a divorce, with no alimony or child support to pay. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (E50Nb) 84
I think it's demi-sexual that is defined as, "sometimes horny, but not always."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO) Sometimes horny, sometimes asleep. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:29 AM (ExV1e) 85
"gender affirming therapy" is in fact Society Destroying Therapy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 11:30 AM (uWKK8) 86
Huh...
According to Hizzonor Mayor Frey "...anybody who is using this as an opportunity to villainize trans people has completely lost touch with a common humanity." I wonder if he thinks the same if someone were to wear a red hat in downtown Minneapolis? Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 11:30 AM (2WIwB) 87
83 I didn’t get to respond to those posters who said that there was no reason for a background check to have flagged the trannie shooter,"
Anyone who is a trannie should be automatically moved to the top 1% of those most likely to commit a violent crime. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 11:31 AM (uWKK8) 88
Probably true if you include the other 57 letters that make up this sick farce of a stupid joke. There's probably a letter in there for me somewhere, as well as most other people out there.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (iFTx/) ====== I think it's demi-sexual that is defined as, "sometimes horny, but not always." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO) ______ Demisexual is sexual attraction only after an emotional connection. Saposexual is sexual attraction with a strong intellectual attraction, even at the expense of pure physical. Between those two categories, that's about 65% of women and probably 30% of men. So ... only maybe only 150 million in the country. There is surely a category for what you describe, which would encompass 90% of women and at least 50% of men. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:31 AM (iFTx/) 89
I'd love to believe that Z is the most Republican generation like evah. Do I believe it? No. I think more likely Z is fickle and blows with the wind. Republican is cool right now, or at least Democrap is totes uncool. So Z identifies with the cool winners. But the calculus might change or even reverse in the coming years.
Posted by: Elric The Blade ======== Doubtful. The problem is that the left has become feminized to the extent that even minority males want nothing much to do with it. And we see higher education doubling down on the oppression on ordinary male behavior. Thus, higher ed becomes increasingly female (about 60 percent nowadays) as has education in general (males in school systems are now down to 23 percent--female 77 percent). From what I have seen in political surveys, Gen Z college females are about the same politically as their older Millennials. Pretty far left. It is the males of that era compared with their older Millennial counterparts that have been moving steadily to the right since 2016. And they are acting upon it. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:31 AM (ctrM5) 90
The golden prize for the left wing gun grabbers, those loving red flag laws, is getting into VA records and finding veterans with even a smidgeon of PTSD in their records.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (gm9Sb) 91
They are only talking about gun control because they don't want anyone talking about trans perverts.
Change the subject is the oldest lefty trick. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (0U5gm) 92
I don't know where you live but, 'round these parts, the background check takes about 15 minutes. Ain't no one trying to look up all my twitter posts to see if I'm a bad guy.
Think about who is in government. Now, think about the idea of granting them authority to deny you an enumerated right because they decided that you said something bad. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:28 AM (ExV1e) Unless you have a CHL there is a waiting period. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (EYmYM) 93
I remember the old days when people were just "sexual."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (PzXaK) 94
Bee headline from a couple days ago with pic of Kelce on his knee:
Taylor Swift Engagement Overturned As Referee Determines Travis Kelce's Knee Didn't Touch The Ground Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (XvL8K) 95
The problem is, who gets to determine who the lunatics are, and by what criteria? That's a really slippery slope
——- Maybe, but it is precisely this line of relativistic twaddle “Who can say!?” that has led to this point. “We The People” has to be better than the “expert psychologists”; it can’t be any worse. Most of them are fucked in the head too, that’s why they took all those abnormal psychodelic classes in the first place. Don’t ask crazy people to define normal, for a start, mk? Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (TgO2L) 96
I think the start of all this confusion is the Democrat serial gang-rape on our language.
Just so many words they've shifted around. And I gotta tell you "The Right" is one of their created concepts. If you're going to use this convention at least know it's only a convention. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:33 AM (7QRaR) 97
89 From what I have seen in political surveys, Gen Z college females are about the same politically as their older Millennials. Pretty far left. It is the males of that era compared with their older Millennial counterparts that have been moving steadily to the right since 2016. And they are acting upon it.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:31 AM (ctrM5) ======= Overall, Gen-Z women are as Republican as men born in the late 80s. Those who don't go to college seem to trend pretty far to the right comparatively. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO) 98
The shooting was in Minnesota. Not exactly a bastion of MAGA Country. It also likely means there are likely more gun control laws due to its liberal constituency.
Was the shooter previously flagged on purchases? Were those flags waived? Not "Red Flag" type, but red tape normal Americans are strangled with related to Second Amendment rights. Was the shooter given a free pass to the front? There's word that the shooter had a small YouTube presence, only a few dozen viewers or followers. The videos were scrubbed AFTER the shooter went and saved further taxpayer expense for their crimes. Regardless of your opinion of allowing the dead to vote, someone else had to pull the delete trigger on the videos. Who? Was it a family member? A friend who was in on things? Or YouTube itself? If YouTube itself did it, it was only after the fact. What else are they allowing on their site and not reporting on, until it literally kills our neighbors? Posted by: Another Anon at August 28, 2025 11:33 AM (4h45B) 99
I went to a back to school thing this week and it started with an assembly for parents. Before the event started the school played the national anthem. Much to my shock everyone stood and the majority of people faced the flag.
I live in a very blue part of town. AWFL central. I was genuinely surprised that they played the anthem to begin with. And then that 1/2 the parents didn’t sit down in protest. Go figure. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (wrRTB) 100
I don’t think trannys see themselves as women. I think they HATE women and want to offend and torture and humiliate and bully women. No one actually BELIEVES they can magically change from a man into a woman. That’s ludicrous.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (W2Pud) 101
Unless you have a CHL there is a waiting period.
Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (EYmYM) I don't have a CHL. Last time I bought a gun, I was in and out in under 90 minutes which included filling out the form and waiting for the person who could sign the form to get free. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (ExV1e) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (3447G) 103
On the larger point, I'm having a debate with my internal principled Libertarian about removing gun rights from convicted felons. Once they've served their time, have the scales been rebalanced? Or is a lifetime ban part of the punishment? Things I wrestle with at lunch.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (PzXaK) 104
Republican is cool right now, or at least Democrap is totes uncool. So Z identifies with the cool winners. But the calculus might change or even reverse in the coming years.
Posted by: Elric The Blade ======== Doubtful. The problem is that the left has become feminized to the extent that even minority males want nothing much to do with it. And we see higher education doubling down on the oppression on ordinary male behavior. Thus, higher ed becomes increasingly female (about 60 percent nowadays) as has education in general (males in school systems are now down to 23 percent--female 77 percent). From what I have seen in political surveys, Gen Z college females are about the same politically as their older Millennials. Pretty far left. It is the males of that era compared with their older Millennial counterparts that have been moving steadily to the right since 2016. And they are acting upon it. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:31 AM (ctrM5) _______ Obama and to a lesser extent Bill Clinton brought coolness and a hip attitude to Democraps. It worked. It could easily happen again, no matter what the current polls or registrations say. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (iFTx/) 105
21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S.
Posted by: Biden's Dog ======== Bullshit. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:23 AM (ctrM5) ~~~~~ Stand outside any high school at dismissal time. Two out of the five young people I've worked with recently were of indeterminate gender--at least to me. One was named Ean, and the other Rene, so names were of no help. If I dared to ask them, I would have been shown the door. Posted by: IrishEi at August 28, 2025 11:35 AM (3ImbR) 106
The golden prize for the left wing gun grabbers, those loving red flag laws, is getting into VA records and finding veterans with even a smidgeon of PTSD in their records.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (gm9Sb) This! And not just PTSD. Got bad knees from jumping out of airplanes? RED FLAG!!! Still carrying some shrapnel? RED FLAG!!! Tinnitus from all that artillery? RED FLAG!!! Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2025 11:35 AM (2WIwB) 107
I was looking out the UK's "self defense" recommendations from law enforcement out of curiosity. You may or may not know that in addition actual firearms, the UK removed such non-lethal self defense options such as Byrna etc. They did this all the way back in 1996.
So, what sort of self defense can you use in the UK should you be a 120 lb young female while walking down the street if set upon by a cadre of potential cancer curers who just happened to speak Pakistani. This is the UK law enforcement’s universal self-defense position: ((“The only universally legal self-defense item is a personal alarm, which can be purchased from police stations or supermarkets.” )) There you have it. UK self defense is loud noises. Posted by: Orson at August 28, 2025 11:35 AM (dIske) 108
Recent data indicates that around 20% to 30% of U.S. Generation Z adults (born between 1997 and 2012) identify as LGBTQ+. Specifically, a 2024 Gallup survey found that 22.3% of Gen Z adults identify as LGBTQ+, with a significant portion identifying as bisexual (15.3%). A 2024 PRRI report reported a higher figure, with 28% of Gen Z adults (ages 18–25) identifying as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or queer. These numbers reflect a notable increase compared to older generations, driven largely by greater social acceptance and visibility.
Posted by: Biden's Dog Without actual figures of what they do, surveys are worthless bullshit. Let me give you an example: since the 1950's, we have had something called the National Election Survey. They ask respondents who they voted for and if they voted at all. In the 1950's, the differential was single digits (e.g. they lied about voting). By the 1990's, the gap between those that actually voted and those that claimed to vote was about a 20 percent plus inflation. Same thing as people recalled voting for the election winners much more than they actually voted for them. Then there is survey response bias. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (ctrM5) 109
The New York Post notes that the murderer expressed regret over his
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (i24o9) 110
104 Obama and to a lesser extent Bill Clinton brought coolness and a hip attitude to Democraps. It worked. It could easily happen again, no matter what the current polls or registrations say.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (iFTx/) ======= And the people who thought Obama was cool and became Democrats because of that...are still Democrats. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO) Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (3447G) 112
With an estimated 3+ million trans in the US, and hospitals bragging about how much money they make on the surgeries and lifetime prescriptions, we're way past "allowing" -- they are targeting, grooming, and mutilating them before they're old enough, or have time enough, to consider the ramifications of what they've been convinced they must do.
We can't allow them to buy a beer until they're 21 because they are mature enough to handle it, but we'll allow them to change their gender at 12 without parental supervision? WTF? Make it make sense. Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (V4yUe) 113
close public schools
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (g47mK) 114
I live in a very blue part of town. AWFL central.
I was genuinely surprised that they played the anthem to begin with. And then that 1/2 the parents didn’t sit down in protest. Go figure. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (wrRTB) --- Chris Plante lives in the very blue DC. And he was talking about how he overheard all in kinds of places libs talking about how they weren't falling for another Covid lockdown. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (7QRaR) 115
Catholic schools warned Gov. Walz about dangers two years ago. From "Legal Insurrection" site:
https://tinyurl.com/3f7dce9r Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (2GCMq) 116
Wait... Do we even know where he obtained these firearms yet?
Was he the purchaser? If he stole them from his parents or friends or bought them illegally the question is moot. Yes, a court found mental illness after a psych exam would be good enough for me to restrict firearms is my answer otherwise. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (rvwwT) 117
I look forward to Neil Youngs next song - I shot my trannie down by the river.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (c711F) 118
101 Yep.Depends on the state. Here in AR, no waiting period. I let my CHCL expire after we went Con Carry, but it's no inconvenience. I fill out the 4473, and for reasons unknown, my go ahead comes back in under a minute. Even amazes my friend at the shop. Uncommon last name, who knows.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (gm9Sb) 119
I live in a very blue part of town. AWFL central.
I was genuinely surprised that they played the anthem to begin with. And then that 1/2 the parents didn’t sit down in protest. Go figure. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (wrRTB) AWFLs are much less likely to have children and CERTAINLY unlikely to have more than one. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (N1tpc) 120
We can't allow them to buy a beer until they're 21 because they are mature enough to handle it, but we'll allow them to change their gender at 12 without parental supervision?
WTF? Make it make sense. Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (V4yUe) We hate people. Is it clear now? -- Democrats Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:38 AM (ExV1e) Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:38 AM (7QRaR) 122
Tranny is terrible spelling error... It's spelled tyranny.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 28, 2025 11:39 AM (2J/Lj) 123
I look forward to Neil Youngs next song - I shot my trannie down by the river.
Posted by: pudinhead ________ They/them could drag him over the rainbow. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 28, 2025 11:39 AM (XvL8K) 124
Dang..... They're closing Alligator Alcatraz....
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (VE6XX) 125
I look forward to Neil Youngs next song - I shot my trannie down by the river.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 11:37 AM (c711F) --- He hates transmissions! Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (7QRaR) 126
One of the biggest mistakes we allowed to happen was allowing transgenderism to be defined as normal instead of a mental illness they way it used to be. The WHO, the same people who helped convince the world to allow governments to look them in their homes for a flu, led the charge on that one.
We need to get back to common sense and reality in many things not the least of which is to clearly state that anyone thinks they were born in the wrong gender has a mental illness. It's not a slur and it's actually beneficial for the people who have this condition. They need mental health help not guns. These people clearly do not have a firm grasp on reality. Why would anyone think they would understand the consequences of owning a gun? Acting like grownups is hard but not as hard as watching children get murdered by people we never should have allowed to have a gun. Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (viF8m) 127
21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) I will take "how do powerless children hide from abusive teachers and Karen-bullies in society who demand conformity" as the answer to this. Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (rbvCR) 128
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‘ Because of social media.’ Everyone’s on social media to some extent. I think we other generations are letting too much bad shit slide. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (jbnUc) 129
I want to know where the push to trans kids started. There has to be a central nexus. It became a squall, after never being an issue.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:41 AM (g47mK) 130
3 million trannies? Bullllllllllshit!
I’ve met maybe 5 in my lifetime. And I’ve travelled all over the country. No fucking way 1/100 people are trannies. It’s absurd. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 28, 2025 11:41 AM (wrRTB) 131
Stand outside any high school at dismissal time.
Two out of the five young people I've worked with recently were of indeterminate gender--at least to me. One was named Ean, and the other Rene, so names were of no help. If I dared to ask them, I would have been shown the door. Posted by: IrishEi My wife teaches and tells me all about her classes in a large school district. Simply put, troons are a small minority and same sex attraction (aka flirting, etc.) in classes are almost all heterosexual in nature. As a former professor, I noted little to no differences in Gen Z sexuality (and I required a lot of writing on different parts of teh law pertaining to some of that interest) compared with the older Millennials or Gen X that I taught. One problem with anecdotal evidence, is that we see the unusual but don't notice the usual as much. A second is that people lie, they lie a lot for social reasons--e.g. evidence that roughly (IIRC) 1/10 of Greatest Generation babies did not have DNA genetics matching the purported father of record. The Kinsey Report is a perfect example of horrible ideologically driven research but scarcely the only example. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5) 132
I want to know where the push to trans kids started. There has to be a central nexus. It became a squall, after never being an issue.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:41 AM (g47mK) --- 0 Population Growth. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:43 AM (7QRaR) 133
re: closure of Florida immigration detention center "Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis on Friday reacted to the ruling, saying he would not be deterred by “an activist judge.” “We knew this would be something that would likely happen,” DeSantis said at a news conference in Panama City. “We will respond accordingly. You either have a country or you don’t.”" If anyone can find a way out of this , DeSantis can. Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:43 AM (g47mK) 134
The SSRI's sent kids off the deep end- Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc. That has been memory-holed, quite deliberately. No one in the mainstream, particularly if they were funded by Big Pharma, wanted anything to do with that story. Now we're off on the next level of medical insanity- all the trans crap, and here we are. Maybe, just maybe, we should stop medicating the fuck out of kids.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 28, 2025 11:44 AM (MZ+PY) 135
132 I want to know where the push to trans kids started. There has to be a central nexus. It became a squall, after never being an issue.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:41 AM (g47mK) --- 0 Population Growth. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:43 AM (7QRaR) Yup... Sterilize them and there is no next Generation... Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:44 AM (VE6XX) 136
Thought on Cook:
Her complaint makes a lot of noise about "for cause" means "malfeasance IN OFFICE". Her alleged crime happened before she was appointed, the lying on the document. But...has she held both mortgages at the reduced rates while renting out the properties while...in office? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO) 137
So I guess we should just get rid of background checks because they’re useless if they don’t actually do a background check.
I can live with that but that would also make the Left’s now false complaint that buying a firearm is as easy as buying a book. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:45 AM (EYmYM) 138
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re: closure of Florida immigration detention center "Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis on Friday reacted to the ruling, saying he would not be deterred by “an activist judge.” Just read they are closing it... Something's changed since last Friday Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:45 AM (VE6XX) 139
Common sense tranny control needed
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 28, 2025 11:45 AM (bcMTj) 140
On the larger point, I'm having a debate with my internal principled Libertarian about removing gun rights from convicted felons. Once they've served their time, have the scales been rebalanced? Or is a lifetime ban part of the punishment? Things I wrestle with at lunch.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (PzXaK) True conservatives (TM) will argue that a conviction means there is an eternal ban on ownership of weapons, because there is a law, and laws are more sacred than anything except the Constitutional Rights bestowed on people who obey. Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 11:45 AM (rbvCR) 141
0 Population Growth.
Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:43 AM (7QRaR) *thinks I think it is tied to money - billions or even trillions. As if Spectre got together and said , we need another source of funds, what is our next plan. Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (g47mK) 142
If anyone can find a way out of this , DeSantis can.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:43 AM (g47mK) Announce that anyone who would, previously, have been sent to Alligator Alcatraz will now be dispatched via one bullet in the back of the head. Thank the judge for saving the state money. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (ExV1e) 143
Her complaint makes a lot of noise about "for cause" means "malfeasance IN OFFICE". Her alleged crime happened before she was appointed, the lying on the document.
But...has she held both mortgages at the reduced rates while renting out the properties while...in office? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO) She continued to enjoy the proceeds of that crime while in office. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (E50Nb) 144
There have been a number of cases where the crazies had been officially flagged by the court as firearm-prohibited, but evaded the order. In the case of lunatic Jared Loughner, who shot congresswoman Gabby Giffords, a federal judge, and about twelve other people, the court order mysteriously went away. His mother worked for the Sheriff's department, and the Sheriff was a nasty left wing activist. Maybe he "fixed it" for her. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (ES1Rb) 145
These mentally ill people do not live in a vacuum. Where are the .parents, relatives, friends and medical professionals that interact with them? This should be an intervention by people that supposedly know and care for them not the government .
Posted by: Ben Had at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (dxWFK) 146
We need to get back to common sense and reality in many things not the least of which is to clearly state that anyone thinks they were born in the wrong gender has a mental illness. It's not a slur and it's actually beneficial for the people who have this condition. They need mental health help not guns.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (viF8m) Yes, but. Mental health issues still have a serious taboo against them, at least in the US. In my experience, people were either over the top attentive to me or totally ignored me. There was no middle ground. There's then the situation that isn't really conducive to treating it...on one hand people are telling a kid that "you're just fine the way you are, be proud, live your truth" and all of that other stuff that reinforces the delusion. Then on the other hand people don't accept that kind of adulation and refuse to honor preferred pronouns or whatever. End of the day, there's a serious dissonance built up that the person can't deal with since the resources don't exist now. I mean, calling 988 is fine on paper, but in practice I found it to be a waste of time... Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (PzXaK) 147
UpdATE:
"TALLAHASSEE — Amid a flurry of legal fights, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration on Aug. 26 asked a federal appeals court to put on hold a judge’s ruling that required winding down operations of the Everglades immigrant-detention facility dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz.” Attorneys for the state filed a 52-page motion at the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals seeking a stay of a preliminary injunction issued last week by U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams in a lawsuit filed by environmental groups and joined by the Miccosukee Tribe." Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:47 AM (g47mK) 148
143 She continued to enjoy the proceeds of that crime while in office.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (E50Nb) ====== It's just a fascinating document because it's very easy to read it as an admission that she did the deed, just complaining that it doesn't amount to "for cause" because the Fed is special. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO) 149
>>I want to know where the push to trans kids started. There has to be a central nexus. It became a squall, after never being an issue.
I've been telling you. The same people who have been pushing for open borders, mass migration, censorship, socialism and the entire globalist worlld order. People laugh at the UN and the WEF and other globalist organizations as a conspiracy theory yet the stuff they have been pushing for years when they meet with our globalist leaders around the world keeps happening. Funny that. https://tinyurl.com/35setxu9 Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 11:47 AM (viF8m) 150
"Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration is preparing to open a second immigration detention facility dubbed “Deportation Depot” at a state prison in Baker County."
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (g47mK) 151
According to the AAP:
https://is.gd/6eAjg8 Ensuring Comprehensive Care and Support for Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children and Adolescents "There is no evidence that risk for mental illness is inherently attributable to one’s identity of TGD. Rather, it is believed to be multifactorial, stemming from an internal conflict between one’s appearance and identity, limited availability of mental health services, low access to health care providers with expertise in caring for youth who identify as TGD, discrimination, stigma, and social rejection" I read this as, they're not mentally ill by virtue of being transgender, they're mentally ill because not enough people affirmed their delusion. Posted by: muldoon at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (/iMjX) 152
Unless you have a CHL there is a waiting period.
Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:32 AM (EYmYM) I don't have a CHL. Last time I bought a gun, I was in and out in under 90 minutes which included filling out the form and waiting for the person who could sign the form to get free. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (ExV1e) Thank goodness I live in OK. Pick out the gun I want, fill out the form, run it through the computer, pay my money, and I'm out the door usually within 30 minutes. Don't even have to formally register it since OK doesn't have registration. Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (g8Ew8) 153
Obama and to a lesser extent Bill Clinton brought coolness and a hip attitude to Democraps. It worked. It could easily happen again, no matter what the current polls or registrations say.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:34 AM (iFTx/) ======= And the people who thought Obama was cool and became Democrats because of that...are still Democrats. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO) __ Not sure that's true. But even if it is, that assumes the voting demos are static in time. They are not. Every year brings many more voters into the fold, and short-term swings can surely effect their thinking (and voting). The fact that current 18 year old Zs swing GOP doesn't mean that the current 15-17 year old Z will do the same. I don't trust any of this. Voting patterns change. The true path to GOP electoral strength is ruthless voting integrity and Democrap-level gerrymandering. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (iFTx/) 154
145 These mentally ill people do not live in a vacuum. Where are the .parents, relatives, friends and medical professionals that interact with them? This should be an intervention by people that supposedly know and care for them not the government .
Posted by: Ben Had at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (dxWFK Exactly... Why haven't we heard about the Parents ?All I heard was some Uncle was once a Republican Congressman from Louisiana who told them he was estranged from the Family... Of course the media would dig up something like that... Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (VE6XX) 155
Watching the Democrats tack and belatedly try to appeal to Men - well, it isn’t going to work. It’s like the Nazis in Germany trying to get Bohr and Fermi and all those guys to move back to Europe in 1944.
“We were just kidding, no hard feelings, OK?!!” The education “establishment” is in sad state, largely due to the feminization of youth. “Toxic Femininity” is the issue here. I think, (at the risk of being insensitive perhaps) there are some parallels. Running males off the school grounds, has fatal results to education. They set up a straw man of what they think being a man is about. Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (TgO2L) 156
21% of Gen Z kids are LGBT in the U.S.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 28, 2025 11:16 AM (3447G) I will take "how do powerless children hide from abusive teachers and Karen-bullies in society who demand conformity" as the answer to this. Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2025 11:40 AM (rbvCR) That's certainly part of it. I think a large part of it is mids and uggos seeking to distinguish themselves on something utterly devoid of any required effort or accomplishment. And I believe that still others (typically those lacking any intellectual capacity or ability for critical thought) see it as edgy and/or rebellious, which we all know classically fits with that age demo, but that aspect of the draw might be changing as it becomes a more garden variety claim to notoriety. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 11:49 AM (i24o9) 157
The tranny is normal push came almost immediately after the scotus gay marriage ruling. Leftism is always about continually pushing more leftism until a society is destroyed and then a marxist government can takeover.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 11:49 AM (rvwwT) 158
>>Yes, but.
>>Mental health issues still have a serious taboo against them, at least in the US. It's not just the US and it didn't used to be a taboo. It's a fairly recent thing. Read the link I posted at 149. This is all part of the globalist plan. Transgenders don't tend to have children. Kill them, not have them. Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 11:49 AM (viF8m) 159
We can't allow them to buy a beer until they're 21 because they are mature enough to handle it, but we'll allow them to change their gender at 12 without parental supervision?
WTF? Make it make sense. ------------------ The 21 majority rule is not Constitutional. Majority still remains at 18. If they can draft you at 18 and give you an automatic rifle you should be able to buy a fucking pistol, a fucking drink, and a fucking pack of cigarettes. Let's eliminate the fraud that Mothers Against Drunk Driving pulled via a Highway Funding Bill. And while we are at it, lets pull chair out from Obamacare who outlawed cheap health insurance for young people while extending minority until 26. Fuck these blood suckers. Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 11:49 AM (c711F) 160
153 Not sure that's true. But even if it is, that assumes the voting demos are static in time. They are not. Every year brings many more voters into the fold, and short-term swings can surely effect their thinking (and voting). The fact that current 18 year old Zs swing GOP doesn't mean that the current 15-17 year old Z will do the same.
I don't trust any of this. Voting patterns change. The true path to GOP electoral strength is ruthless voting integrity and Democrap-level gerrymandering. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:48 AM (iFTx/) ====== I think the people who change voting patterns after the 18-24 age period are statistical noise. They happen, but they're immaterial and mainly cancel each other out. And yes, the 15-17 could be different from the 18s, but the patterns show that it's trended moves, not giant leaps. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (GBKbO) 161
UN, the grift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (g47mK) 162
On the closing of Alligator Alcatraz. Not sure if this is related, but my brother’s Nat Guard unit is going to Guantanamo Bay for 6 months. His unit is a construction type unit, so they’re likely going to build stuff.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (hxFOT) 163
So I guess we should just get rid of background checks because they’re useless if they don’t actually do a background check.
They check to see if any of a number of things has previously been reported about you. There was a ruckus, couple years back, when some fella killed his family. Got kicked out of the AF for domestic abuse, if memory serves, but the AF didn't report it to the FBI. Background check is clean. They don't have millions of agents sitting around waiting to do a deep dive on you. Waiting periods, where they exist, exist for two reasons - the theory that many killings are crimes of passion with newly purchased firearms and... to inconvenience gun purchasers. I'll let you decide for yourself which was the primary factor. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e) 164
Overall, Gen-Z women are as Republican as men born in the late 80s.
Those who don't go to college seem to trend pretty far to the right comparatively. Posted by: TheJamesMadison ======= New York Times and Siena College poll October 2024 Women aged 18 to 29 favored former Vice President Kamala Harris over President Donald Trump by 38 points, while men in the same group favored Trump by 13 points. No other generation exhibits a gap this wide. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5) 165
I just heard Trump has over 1000 positions to be cleared by the Senate ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:51 AM (VE6XX) 166
There have been a number of cases where the crazies had been officially flagged by the court as firearm-prohibited, but evaded the order.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (ES1Rb) --- Because it's within "substantive due process" that individuals can have rights voided. Otherwise, how would we have ever done capital punishment? Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 11:51 AM (7QRaR) 167
that would also make the Left’s now false complaint that buying a firearm is as easy as buying a book.
I can buy a gun in 90 minutes. I can buy a book in 10 seconds and I don't have to get off my ass to do it. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:52 AM (ExV1e) Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 11:52 AM (TgO2L) 169
want to know where the push to trans kids started. There has to be a central nexus. It became a squall, after never being an issue.
Posted by: runner at Obama and Co used a Tennessee court case or law (whatever) about bathroom "access". They used bathrooms, something everyone HAS to worry about, to make it into a national issue. Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 11:52 AM (0y1cv) 170
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5)
~~~~~ I'm sure it's different elsewhere. I'm just sharing what I've personally experienced. Posted by: IrishEi at August 28, 2025 11:52 AM (3ImbR) 171
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e)
So get rid of background checks or not? Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (EYmYM) 172
Maybe, just maybe, we should stop medicating the fuck out of kids.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 28, 2025 11:44 AM (MZ+PY) Yeah, people bag on sports a lot, and having been a non-sports person for most of my life, I am coming to the late-realization that burning off all that excess energy and angst in a healthy physical pursuit has monumental value for mental and emotional well-being for young people well beyond any simple competitive or performative draw. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (i24o9) 173
They check to see if any of a number of things has previously been reported about you. There was a ruckus, couple years back, when some fella killed his family. Got kicked out of the AF for domestic abuse, if memory serves, but the AF didn't report it to the FBI. Background check is clean. They don't have millions of agents sitting around waiting to do a deep dive on you.
Waiting periods, where they exist, exist for two reasons - the theory that many killings are crimes of passion with newly purchased firearms and... to inconvenience gun purchasers. I'll let you decide for yourself which was the primary factor. Posted by: I used to have a different nic ======= Yes, that was a douchebag that shot up a Baptist Church. AF did not report his dishonorable discharge and domestic violence to the FBI. The VA Tech murderer was also not reported to the FBI despite being committed involuntarily for mental illness. This was the fault of the VA government for failing to report this to the FBI for the nic check. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (ctrM5) 174
Maybe, just maybe, we should stop medicating the fuck out of kids.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 28, 2025 11:44 AM (MZ+PY) Amen! My nephew has 3 kids. One boy and two girls who have all been on ADHD meds for years. They started the meds when they started school. The boy was a typical, slightly hyper, curious about a lot of stuff sort of little guy. He drove people nuts with all the questions he asked. Hated sitting still and wanted to be doing stuff. School recommended meds for his "ADHD". Doctor they recommended concurred. He's taking several meds now and has become a surly and unpleasant pre teen. This kid should be weaned from meds, put in a football program, and taught self discipline and control. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (2J/Lj) 175
Speaking of Jacob Frey, it seems a significant percentage of big city mayors are scum. Why would that be and why do people keep electing mayors who hate them and want to cause them harm?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (kTd/k) 176
It's just a fascinating document because it's very easy to read it as an admission that she did the deed, just complaining that it doesn't amount to "for cause" because the Fed is special.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO) Appearance of impropriety. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (ExV1e) 177
168 How come the 1965 Medicare Act didn’t provide any money for mental cases?
Weird, huh? Posted by: Common Tater ======== They do but not directly. The disability part does pay medical bills for those mentally disabled which also includes dementia patients. For people not qualified for Medicare (work credits, too old for parent coverage, etc.), Medicaid is typically the payee if the mental illness is severe enough to warrant medical treatment. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (ctrM5) 178
I believe the wanting to change " gender" is a symptom of mental lillness not the cause. How enticing is , my life sucks as a male so if I can identify as a woman, all the hurt and pain goes away. Then the reality sets in.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (dxWFK) 179
I also don't think you should have a constitutional right taken away forever, but we had this debate 10 years ago right here at AoS and I was in the minority thinking.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (rvwwT) 180
This kid should be weaned from meds, put in a football program, and taught self discipline and control.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (2J/Lj) I agree. I am proud to receive compliments from family and friends about the well-mannered behavior of my lot. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (i24o9) 181
Speaking of Jacob Frey, it seems a significant percentage of big city mayors are scum. Why would that be and why do people keep electing mayors who hate them and want to cause them harm?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (kTd/k) ______ Vote harvesting, vote fraud, machine politics. Same as it ever was. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/) 182
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‘ AWFLs are much less likely to have children and CERTAINLY unlikely to have more than one.’ That’s one of my favorite features of AWFL’s. The other are their steadily increasing ages. Come on, Father Time. Solve our AWFL problem. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 11:56 AM (jbnUc) 183
Obvious Welcoming (Sanctuary) and Safe Haven sites in PA
>Phila. Inquirer, 'For transgender people in 2025, freedom is more a dream than a reality,' July 3, 2025 >Philadelphia Gay News, 'Executive order designates Philly as a safe haven for gender-affirming care,' Oct 2023 >Pittsburgh: A Sanctuary City and Safe Haven for Transgender Individuals and LGBTQ+ Community >City Council declares Allentown, Pa. a ‘safe haven’ for transgender health care access >Delaware County, Delco becomes first Philly suburb to be ‘safe haven' for LGBTQ+ healthcare On Wed. June 4, 2025, Delaware County made history by becoming the first Philadelphia suburb to declare itself a safe haven for the LGBTQ+ and for transgender healthcare and healthcare providers. >Philadelphia Gay News, Upper Darby Township declares itself a ‘safe haven’ for the LGBTQ+ community, August 26, 2025 Also interesting: Known examples of Soros-funded district attorney campaigns in Pennsylvania include: Larry Krasner (Philadelphia County) Matt Dugan (Allegheny County) Jack Stollsteimer (Delaware County) The transgender issue is SO very different than the past broader community mental health issues. Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at August 28, 2025 11:57 AM (NFX2v) 184
That Cook woman isn't going anywhere.... Got a gaggle of Lawyers suing Trump.... One would think The President could fire anyone he wants that works under him... I guess not... At least not this President...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX) 185
it seems a significant percentage of big city mayors are scum. Why would that be and why do people keep electing mayors who hate them and want to cause them harm?
——- “Here are your choices. Pick one” The only people who run in some places are deeply defective individuals. No decent person wants to put up with all that bullshit. “None Of The Above” isn’t one of the choices. Ever notice that? Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 11:58 AM (TgO2L) 186
Speaking of the AAP, do not underestimate their influence not only among practicing pediatricians, but also among policymakers (legislators), medical school curriculum, state medical boards, licensing, etc.
Here's a cross section to give you an idea of the make-up of the AAP. On their website they have a Voice of the AAP blog. Looking at blog article authorship back to 2020, a total of 135 articles on a variety of topics (~2/month), authored or co-authored by 170 AAP members, 142 (84%) were female, and only 28 (16%) were male. This reflects the percentage of F/M pediatricians in the US at large. Make of that what you will. Posted by: muldoon at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (/iMjX) 187
also don't think you should have a constitutional right taken away forever, but we had this debate 10 years ago right here at AoS and I was in the minority thinking.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (rvwwT) My position is a Felon should have the opportunity to apply for reinstatement of that right he lost when he committed the felony. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (EYmYM) 188
I'll add, but it did not come easy, with lots of time spent on behavior adjustment, sports, exercise, chores, counseling about respect for self and others. You know, parenting.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (i24o9) 189
believe the wanting to change " gender" is a symptom of mental lillness not the cause. How enticing is , my life sucks as a male so if I can identify as a woman, all the hurt and pain goes away. Then the reality sets in.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (dxWFK) I think a lot of it is that sexuality is extremely confusing at impressionable ages, and the groomers have taken natural advantage of that. You're a boy and you don't like sports? Maybe you were meant to be a girl! You're a girl and you DO like sports? Boy!! You're a boy and you find women and women's clothing sexy? That's because you want to wear their clothing and be one! Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (0y1cv) 190
She continued to enjoy the proceeds of that crime while in office.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 11:46 AM (E50Nb) ====== It's just a fascinating document because it's very easy to read it as an admission that she did the deed, just complaining that it doesn't amount to "for cause" because the Fed is special. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO) ______ She 100% did the deed. I'll bet any amount of money on it. I've already said that everyone with a primary and second home does this -- except for some people here. I'm not gonna have that debate again. I'm only saying I have no doubt she did the deed. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/) 191
The guy said he was tired of being trans and felt brainwashed.
Cool, I get that. Totally reasonable for troons to be in a murderous rage about that. But you need to kill whoever groomed you, and one or more culpable parents, and your doctor, and then yourself. NOT THE NORMIES. We didn't do this shit to you. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (Bdwy2) 192
184 That Cook woman isn't going anywhere.... Got a gaggle of Lawyers suing Trump.... One would think The President could fire anyone he wants that works under him... I guess not... At least not this President...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX) It's a fight worth having just to showcase the incredible corruption of the appointed Deep State members. What happens to her isn't really all that important, destroying the credibility of the Fed and all similar independent agencies is the true goal. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (uWKK8) 193
I also don't think you should have a constitutional right taken away forever, but we had this debate 10 years ago right here at AoS and I was in the minority thinking.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 11:55 AM (rvwwT) --- Then how do you do capital punishment? We have capital punishment where the people have agreed that revoking an individuals right to life forever is fitting. Do we also have permanent revocation of other rights where the people consent. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 12:00 PM (7QRaR) 194
>>That Cook woman isn't going anywhere.... Got a gaggle of Lawyers suing Trump.... One would think The President could fire anyone he wants that works under him... I guess not... At least not this President...
I wouldn't bet on that. The left has been suing Trump non-stop since he got sworn in. They've thrown up some resistance but they almost always lose. Trump has Article II power to fire her. She can sue all she wants but in the end she's gone. Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 12:00 PM (viF8m) 195
So get rid of background checks or not?
Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (EYmYM) I don't have a huge issue with background checks as they are, officially, performed today. Do something bad, get on a list, show up on the check. I'd probably question some of the items that can get you on the list but, in general, I think it's probably the best we can hope for. I think waiting periods, red flag laws, etc. are bullshit. I don't actually have a problem with the idea of buying a gun being as easy as buying a book. I'd like to own a class 3 firearm - cause they're hilarious to shoot, albeit expensive as hell - but I'm not prepared to go through the dog and pony show or pay the fee to do so. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:00 PM (ExV1e) 196
>>That Cook woman isn't going anywhere.... Got a gaggle of Lawyers suing Trump.... One would think The President could fire anyone he wants that works under him... I guess not... At least not this President
Does she have to be paid? Is it required that she gets a desk Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:01 PM (kTd/k) 197
“Here are your choices. Pick one” The only people who run in some places are deeply defective individuals. No decent person wants to put up with all that bullshit. “None Of The Above” isn’t one of the choices. Ever notice that? Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 11:58 AM (TgO2L) I would add that all big democrat run cities are controlled by political machines, and actual votes matter very little with respect to who ends up in the Mayor's seat. Look at Chicago, NYC, or LA. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 12:01 PM (uWKK8) 198
The guy said he was tired of being trans and felt brainwashed.
Cool, I get that. Totally reasonable for troons to be in a murderous rage about that. But you need to kill whoever groomed you, and one or more culpable parents, and your doctor, and then yourself. NOT THE NORMIES. We didn't do this shit to you. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (Bdwy2) Why do we take his word on what he "feels"? Does he know what he feels? Would he be honest if he did? Is he even capable of that? Posted by: ... at August 28, 2025 12:01 PM (0y1cv) 199
@184 Donna, just because she stamps her feet, does not mean anything. Trump has more and better lawyers than she does.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2025 12:01 PM (g47mK) 200
Make transing children a capital crime. Either by drugs or by surgery. Trans an adult; lose your license to practice medicine. Trans a child; lose your life.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:02 PM (E50Nb) 201
I agree polynikes on applying for reinstatement, but its not just felons, there are many misdemeanors that people have their gun rights taken away also.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 12:02 PM (rvwwT) 202
I'm sure it's different elsewhere. I'm just sharing what I've personally experienced.
Posted by: IrishEi Not picking on you IrishEi. Anecdotal evidence is still evidence but when you see media/academia/etc. making broad assertions that people are this way or people are that way, often it is deliberate in order to 'steer' the public to think 'correctly'. I was a peer reviewer for academic research and too often researchers relied on just one tool to get at reality. (Assuming good intentions etc.). In almost every case, triangulated research design would yield better data and results accordingly. So, you take a survey, follow the kids around, and find out whether what they say matches what they do. You add backtracking questions that indirectly indicate original responses were not truly honest. E.g. Did you have sexual contact (e.g. romantic kiss, physical sexual contact, etc.) with a member of the same sex within the last year? Not just whether they claim X as an identity but instead whether they used actions to further that identity. Same as surgery and medication questions for those claiming trans status. Then you try to actually check that those answers were true. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:02 PM (ctrM5) 203
Whig - I thought I read that Medicare payments to insane asylums were precluded specifically in the Act.
Money, of course, was a big reason they were shut down. And besides, the experts assured us that modern pharmaceutical drugs would get those folks back into the society and useful productive citizens. Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:03 PM (TgO2L) 204
I'm not prepared to go through the dog and pony show or pay the fee to do so.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:00 PM (ExV1e) That and the cheapest point of entry is 15-16k. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 28, 2025 12:03 PM (hxFOT) 205
My sister's ex-husband had his gun rights taken away in the state of Washington due to these stupid red flag laws. At the end of his previous marriage he got into a big physical fight with his then wife, who actually started the fight by attacking him. Due the cops being called he was charged and place on the "list". Took him years to get his gun rights back.
Posted by: Farquad at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (NtFTC) 206
The problem is, who gets to determine who the lunatics are, and by what criteria? That's a really slippery slope and a very nebulous area of science/psychiatry.
Posted by: bjjfiter at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (ccsjf) I believe most of us here could determine who the lunatics are. Just place the word "Doctor" in front of our nic. ![]() Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (5xuJ/) 207
That Cook woman isn't going anywhere.... Got a gaggle of Lawyers suing Trump.... One would think The President could fire anyone he wants that works under him... I guess not... At least not this President...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX) She hasn't won yet. Trump's had a pretty good track record with these things this term. I suspect that he's got a gaggle of lawyers going over every detail of the desired EOs to ensure that they SHOULD pass the judge permission check. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (ExV1e) 208
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Is that because when you get the first house, you sign a mortgage saying it's going to be your primary house. Then sometime later (maybe several years or a decade of so) you get a second house and sign a mortgage saying it's gonna be your primary house? Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at August 28, 2025 12:05 PM (luW68) 209
207 That Cook woman isn't going anywhere.... Got a gaggle of Lawyers suing Trump.... One would think The President could fire anyone he wants that works under him... I guess not... At least not this President...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 11:57 AM (VE6XX) She hasn't won yet. Trump's had a pretty good track record with these things this term. I suspect that he's got a gaggle of lawyers going over every detail of the desired EOs to ensure that they SHOULD pass the judge permission check. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (ExV1e) ====== Guess what happens if Powell undermines Trump's order and lets Cook have access to Fed resources? Insubordination. "For cause." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO) 210
The problem is, who gets to determine who the lunatics are, and by what criteria? That's a really slippery slope and a very nebulous area of science/psychiatry.
Posted by: bjjfiter at August 28, 2025 11:17 AM (ccsjf) I believe most of us here could determine who the lunatics are. Just place the word "Doctor" in front of our nic. Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (5xuJ/) :whistling: Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:06 PM (DJPFk) 211
Guess what happens if Powell undermines Trump's order and lets Cook have access to Fed resources?
Insubordination. "For cause." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO) I like it.... Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 12:06 PM (VE6XX) 212
208 Is that because when you get the first house, you sign a mortgage saying it's going to be your primary house. Then sometime later (maybe several years or a decade of so) you get a second house and sign a mortgage saying it's gonna be your primary house?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at August 28, 2025 12:05 PM (luW6 ![]() ======== As long as you live in your first house for 2 out of the previous 5 years and actually do move into the second house, it's fine. She called both primary residences within 2 weeks and never moved into either. She rented them out immediately. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO) 213
Am I the only one who feels this Cook woman leans toward the ugly side of the scale?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (kTd/k) 214
whistling:
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:06 PM (DJPFk) You may be doing this wrong. Not judging, just sayin. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (2J/Lj) 215
My sister's ex-husband had his gun rights taken away in the state of Washington due to these stupid red flag laws. At the end of his previous marriage he got into a big physical fight with his then wife, who actually started the fight by attacking him. Due the cops being called he was charged and place on the "list". Took him years to get his gun rights back.
Posted by: Farquad at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (NtFTC) Sounds like a guy who has a history of making bad decisions, or else he's just unlucky. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (E50Nb) 216
I don't agree with capital punishment Axeman.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (rvwwT) 217
The guy said he was tired of being trans and felt brainwashed.
--- So you SEE THAT?! The Detrans movement shot up the Church!! --- People who want to ensure you don't engage in blanket accusations against trans in general. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (7QRaR) 218
213 Am I the only one who feels this Cook woman leans toward the ugly side of the scale?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (kTd/k) If you can find a big enough scale Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (VE6XX) 219
Just had a guy show up here at the plant. Boiler inspector. Gave me his card. His name is,,,,, Richard Dickerson. Sounds like my kinda' guy
Posted by: flyin' green dildo at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (EFZgU) 220
I believe most of us here could determine who the lunatics are. Just place the word "Doctor" in front of our nic.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (5xuJ/) Hi Everybody! Posted by: Nick Riviera at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (PiwSw) 221
Tolle Lege
Posted by: LASue at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (lCppi) 222
Who the hell wants a banking cartel that isn’t subject to any oversight anyway? It’s a completely idiotic concept.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (hxFOT) 223
The Dems are scared that the Cook case could be the final case to overturn Humphrey's Executor. They've gotten other people to back off. Hope it is overturned and Abbe Lowell looks like a schmuck
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (rRoxM) 224
Why do we take his word on what he "feels"? Does he know what he feels? Would he be honest if he did? Is he even capable of that?
Posted by: ... ======== Excellent questions. And we will probably never know. What is true is that the Big Medicine troon industry is not interested in their patient's well being. Instead, they seem to see their role as affirming unwise patient choices. A friend of mine had bariatic surgery and they thoroughly investigated, counseled, and demanded significant evidence that a) the patient had tried every way to lose weight so bariatric was the last resort b) the patient adhered to strict guidelines over eating and had to demonstrate the likelihood they would do so after surgery (to prevent relapse). Another had transplant surgery. Again, MASSIVE questioning about all facets of their life, huge amounts of documentation for doctors showing it was medically necessary, etc. Troon surgery, on the other hand, seems intent on rushing the patients through it before they change their minds. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5) 225
Sounds like a guy who has a history of making bad decisions, or else he's just unlucky.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (E50Nb) There, but for the grace of God, go I. Posted by: Penis People at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (i24o9) 226
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
Is that because when you get the first house, you sign a mortgage saying it's going to be your primary house. Then sometime later (maybe several years or a decade of so) you get a second house and sign a mortgage saying it's gonna be your primary house? Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at August 28, 2025 12:05 PM (luW6 ![]() ______ Yup. And a primary residence mortgage is usually worth a lower rate and lower down payment. Could mean tens of thousands of dollars saved over the years. And how can anyone prove that the second home wasn't really gonna become the primary at the time? I expect that will be this Cook whore's eventual defense, although in her cases the mortgages came within weeks of each other, so that will be a hard case to make. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/) 227
I don't agree with capital punishment Axeman.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (rvwwT) I think I agree with the concept of capital punishment although I waiver on that at times. I'm less certain that I agree with our current government having that power. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (ExV1e) 228
Speaking of Jacob Frey, it seems a significant percentage of big city mayors are scum. Why would that be and why do people keep electing mayors who hate them and want to cause them harm?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 11:53 AM (kTd/k) --- Those mayors are not being elected by "the people" in any way, shape, or form. Big Donors are supplying them with the money and resources necessary to commit voter fraud on a massive scale to keep the mayors in power and the donors supplied with kickbacks. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (7fElN) 229
223 The Dems are scared that the Cook case could be the final case to overturn Humphrey's Executor. They've gotten other people to back off. Hope it is overturned and Abbe Lowell looks like a schmuck
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (rRoxM) ======= whig had good reasons why Humphrey's doesn't apply to her case. Can't remember the specifics, but I remember being persuaded. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO) 230
So some background check is okay but other additional background checks are not.
Kind of like abortion where people assign a number of weeks where they think it’s okay and after that number it’s not. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 12:10 PM (EYmYM) 231
223 The Dems are scared that the Cook case could be the final case to overturn Humphrey's Executor. They've gotten other people to back off. Hope it is overturned and Abbe Lowell looks like a schmuck
Posted by: Smell the Glove Not necessarily. I would imagine DoJ lawyers will argue that Cook was fired for cause which is specifically allowed in the Federal Reserve Act statute (has to be for constitutionality under separation of powers). But, Cook's lawyers are apparently arguing that the mortgage fraud was prior conduct and only bad conduct in office constitutes cause. Dubious in this case but this allows Scotus to sidestep Humphrey's Executor if the case is about 'cause' and not presidential power. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (ctrM5) 232
Where is that slacker?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (viF8m) 233
226 Yup. And a primary residence mortgage is usually worth a lower rate and lower down payment. Could mean tens of thousands of dollars saved over the years. And how can anyone prove that the second home wasn't really gonna become the primary at the time? I expect that will be this Cook whore's eventual defense, although in her cases the mortgages came within weeks of each other, so that will be a hard case to make.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/) ====== 2 weeks in different states and she immediately rented both of them out. Yeah, she's 99.99% likely to be guilty. $5 says it's not the only thing she's skirted even after she took office. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO) Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (ufFY8) 235
My position is a Felon should have the opportunity to apply for reinstatement of that right he lost when he committed the felony.
——— After he meets restitution. Paying his “debt to society”. Now that doesn’t mean serving 2 years in jail. That’s a debt. By that I mean paying off the Insurance co. who paid off the car he stole and totaled during the high speed chase. The $9,000 telephone pole that was knocked out, and the electrical sub-station transformer, and the homeowners policy that was invoked smashing into somebody’s house. As it is now, these folks get to stay anonymous if they are under 18. Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (TgO2L) 236
Bruce Willis has been moved into a nursing care home. Damn.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (lIio7) 237
Is The Fed the banking cartel put together on Jekyll Island?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (kTd/k) 238
whig had good reasons why Humphrey's doesn't apply to her case.
Can't remember the specifics, but I remember being persuaded. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO) IIRC, it was the cause issue. Humphrey's is about firing someone for political reasons. Amusingly, Cook fighting cause could make it a Humphrey's case. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (ExV1e) 239
I'm just glad I don't live in the town in the UK named Troon.
What if you're a Troon from Troon? Troon^2? Troonie Troon? Gotta stop drinking at lunch. Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (DJPFk) 240
Yup. And a primary residence mortgage is usually worth a lower rate and lower down payment. Could mean tens of thousands of dollars saved over the years. And how can anyone prove that the second home wasn't really gonna become the primary at the time? I expect that will be this Cook whore's eventual defense, although in her cases the mortgages came within weeks of each other, so that will be a hard case to make.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/) Seems she never occupied either house. Why should she, when she had a comfy den under a bridge? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (E50Nb) 241
So some background check is okay but other additional background checks are not.
Kind of like abortion where people assign a number of weeks where they think it’s okay and after that number it’s not. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 12:10 PM (EYmYM) ------------------ Literally "splitting the baby" ... Posted by: ShainS -- Muslim Commie Momscrawny 2028: Free Weights for Every Cuck! at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (dwyD4) 242
Where is that slacker?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (viF8m) Could you be more specific? Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (i24o9) 243
214 whistling:
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:06 PM (DJPFk) You may be doing this wrong. Not judging, just sayin. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (2J/Lj) I've dealt with mental illness in my family, so I have some experience. One of the difficult things is how it ebbs and flows - with one close female relative, I dreaded talking to her on the phone, because I never knew which personality would be there. The intelligent, rational one who was a good conversationalist and actually pleasant to talk to; the morbidly depressed one that only wanted to talk about how terrible everything was and how she was planning to kill herself; or the rally batshit truly insane one that would spew things out of her mouth that are hard to even repeat. so any given call was like rolling dice with a 1/3 chance of a good outcome, and a 2/3 chance of really, really bad. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (uWKK8) 244
Bruce Willis has been moved into a nursing care home. Damn. Posted by: bonhomme =============== I read that some time ago, his wife moved him into a small, separate house where he receives 24-hour care and she has breakfast and dinner with him every day there. Just "his" own house. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (2L/pi) 245
I don't agree with capital punishment Axeman.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (rvwwT) --- Ah, but that's where living in a society comes in. I try not to have personal politics, so I'm neither for nor against it. I just understand the mechanism by which Constitutional capital punishment was performed. I'm mainly a proponent of self- governance. Which means: watch out for Big Judiciary and their Mathematical Rights spaces bullishit. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (7QRaR) 246
She called both primary residences within 2 weeks and never moved into either. She rented them out immediately.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison ==== Best option is the Costanza Defense Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (ofVJH) 247
Fun story for ya'll. I was getting my haircut and there were five kids getting the back to school haircuts. Chatted with the kid that was ahead of me. Huge kid. As in muscular.
Me: "Starting pretty soon then?" Him: "Yeah. Next Tuesday." Me: "Cool. What grade?" Him: "Freshman year in high school. I'll be playing Varsity Football." Me: (internally) "How the hell do your parents feed you? Do they take you to a ranch and you point at a cow and say 'That one'?" Posted by: NR Pax at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (svLOV) 248
164 New York Times and Siena College poll October 2024
Women aged 18 to 29 favored former Vice President Kamala Harris over President Donald Trump by 38 points, while men in the same group favored Trump by 13 points. No other generation exhibits a gap this wide. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5) ====== whig, I've been looking for this graph, but I only finally found it: https://is.gd/EEssAF Registration data only. Gen-Z women are as Republican as men born in the 80s. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (GBKbO) 249
Sounds like a guy who has a history of making bad decisions, or else he's just unlucky.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon ======= Marriages blow up and frequently charges of domestic abuse crop up in divorce and custody cases. Ask any divorce attorney. They have sobering stories of weaponizing public law to support private gains in custody or property dispersal. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (ctrM5) 250
Excellent questions. And we will probably never know. What is true is that the Big Medicine troon industry is not interested in their patient's well being. Instead, they seem to see their role as affirming unwise patient choices. A friend of mine had bariatic surgery and they thoroughly investigated, counseled, and demanded significant evidence that a) the patient had tried every way to lose weight so bariatric was the last resort b) the patient adhered to strict guidelines over eating and had to demonstrate the likelihood they would do so after surgery (to prevent relapse).
Another had transplant surgery. Again, MASSIVE questioning about all facets of their life, huge amounts of documentation for doctors showing it was medically necessary, etc. Troon surgery, on the other hand, seems intent on rushing the patients through it before they change their minds. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5) ____ True, but there are hack doctors who will do bariatric --or prescribe Ozempic -- with very little investigation other than the patient's saying so. Ditto with narcotics. I think it's better than it was, but there will always be hacks out there looking to make a buck. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:14 PM (iFTx/) 251
Currently there are approximately 800 people in prison for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide. That number has fluctuated but it’s always pretty large.
It’s my main reason for supporting the death penalty. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 12:14 PM (EYmYM) 252
She 100% did the deed. I'll bet any amount of money on it. I've already said that everyone with a primary and second home does this -- except for some people here. I'm not gonna have that debate again. I'm only saying I have no doubt she did the deed.
It's not just a checkbox. There's a whole extra step and form that you have to sign to affirm the home is going to be your primary residence. The forms are government records. It should be a slam dunk case. Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2025 12:14 PM (lIio7) 253
>>Could you be more specific?
It's nearly 12:15. This is unacceptable. If we allow standards to keep slipping there's no telling where it will lead. Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2025 12:14 PM (viF8m) 254
Best option is the Costanza Defense
Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (ofVJH) Second best is the Otter Defense. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 12:15 PM (i24o9) 255
238 IIRC, it was the cause issue. Humphrey's is about firing someone for political reasons. Amusingly, Cook fighting cause could make it a Humphrey's case.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:12 PM (ExV1e) ======= Could, but the DC Circuit is running a rearguard to keep Humphrey's. Most likely outcome is that the DC Circuit rules on the merit of "for cause" only and someone convinces Cook to not appeal beyond that. It's pretty much what happened to Wilcox earlier this year. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO) 256
The FNM says HRT is too dangerous because it causes cancer, but in older people it is used to treat real medical problems cause by the reduction in hormones aging can lead to
For trannies though the FNM says the same damn drugs are perfectly safe. Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 12:15 PM (sKqQm) 257
So some background check is okay but other additional background checks are not.
Kind of like abortion where people assign a number of weeks where they think it’s okay and after that number it’s not. Posted by: polynikes at August 28, 2025 12:10 PM (EYmYM) Well, if you're going to say that someone who's been convicted of beating the shit out of people cannot legally own a gun, or someone who regularly uses psychedelics, or someone who commits robberies, then you should have a mechanism to prevent them from buying guns. But just crawling up the ass of everyone who wants to buy a gun? No, we shouldn't have that. I suppose you could liken it to the number of weeks question. Everyone has a different answer and, as a society, there's a number which represents the best you can get. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:15 PM (ExV1e) 258
@231 which, that's possible but the court after it warned lower courts about following precedent seems to be getting sick of this crap. Humphrey's Executor has been hollowed out and the court I believe wants it gone
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (rRoxM) 259
I just watched a video tour of the execution sites in London. The tour guide said there were more than 800,000 people executed in London between say 1300 and 1900. That was startling to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (kTd/k) 260
By that I mean paying off the Insurance co. who paid off the car he stole and totaled during the high speed chase.
The $9,000 telephone pole that was knocked out, and the electrical sub-station transformer, and the homeowners policy that was invoked smashing into somebody’s house. As it is now, these folks get to stay anonymous if they are under 18. Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (TgO2L) Good point. Restitution really needs to be made a much larger part of criminal sentencing. Making victims completely whole again may be impossible, but some effort has to be made, and some onus placed on the perpetrators. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (E50Nb) 261
That’s one of my favorite features of AWFL’s.
The other are their steadily increasing ages. Come on, Father Time. Solve our AWFL problem. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 11:56 AM (jbnUc) And they are MUCH more likely to sterilize the one child they do have, so the gene pool stops there. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (N1tpc) 262
I read that some time ago, his wife moved him into a small, separate house where he receives 24-hour care and she has breakfast and dinner with him every day there. Just "his" own house.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (2L/pi) I've read he's suffering from severe mental deterioration. It's very sad. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (uWKK8) 263
Bruce Willis has been moved into a nursing care home. Damn.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (lIio7) --- Tell me it involved a fire hose and windows--lie if you have to. Posted by: Axeman at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (7QRaR) 264
Who the hell wants a banking cartel that isn’t subject to any oversight anyway? It’s a completely idiotic concept.
——- OK, fair enough. But - Do you want the current Congress critters in charge of Money? Mad Maxine Waters? Occasionall-Cortex? Swallowswell? Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (TgO2L) 265
I hope the left keeps up the argument that elites shouldn't have to follow the same laws normal people do.
That's a great winning argument that LIVs really love to hear and won't it all persuade them to vote R in the next election. Especially the ones barely making their mortgage payments! Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 12:17 PM (sKqQm) 266
New York Times and Siena College poll October 2024
Women aged 18 to 29 favored former Vice President Kamala Harris over President Donald Trump by 38 points, while men in the same group favored Trump by 13 points. No other generation exhibits a gap this wide. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5) ====== whig, I've been looking for this graph, but I only finally found it: https://is.gd/EEssAF Registration data only. Gen-Z women are as Republican as men born in the 80s. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (GBKbO) Graph only covers 31 states. Remainder don't have party registrations. I'm not convinced party registration is determinative here. How many GOPes are registered Republicans? Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:17 PM (DJPFk) 267
Yup. And a primary residence mortgage is usually worth a lower rate and lower down payment. Could mean tens of thousands of dollars saved over the years. And how can anyone prove that the second home wasn't really gonna become the primary at the time? I expect that will be this Cook whore's eventual defense, although in her cases the mortgages came within weeks of each other, so that will be a hard case to make.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:09 PM (iFTx/) ====== 2 weeks in different states and she immediately rented both of them out. Yeah, she's 99.99% likely to be guilty. $5 says it's not the only thing she's skirted even after she took office. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO) _______ Give me a sympathetic judge or jury and I could represent her and beat that rap. She seems to think she'll beat the rap. We'll see. Let's just get this fat scump off the fucking Fed and some real people on it. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:17 PM (iFTx/) 268
I'm 100% in favor of self identifying they/them freaks being locked away in a fucking medeival dungeon for the rest of they're miserable lives and no amount of Lolbert hand wringing will ever change that.
Posted by: Cmonman at August 28, 2025 12:17 PM (DvpCZ) 269
215 My sister's ex-husband had his gun rights taken away in the state of Washington due to these stupid red flag laws. At the end of his previous marriage he got into a big physical fight with his then wife, who actually started the fight by attacking him. Due the cops being called he was charged and place on the "list". Took him years to get his gun rights back.
Posted by: Farquad at August 28, 2025 12:04 PM (NtFTC) Sounds like a guy who has a history of making bad decisions, or else he's just unlucky. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:07 PM (E50Nb) He had 3 kids with her. And they have a bunch of half siblings through her. But small correction, he was never charged with domestic violence, just arrested then released the next day. That was enough to put him on the "list". Posted by: Farquad at August 28, 2025 12:18 PM (NtFTC) 270
Marriages blow up and frequently charges of domestic abuse crop up in divorce and custody cases. Ask any divorce attorney. They have sobering stories of weaponizing public law to support private gains in custody or property dispersal.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (ctrM5) That is why I cannot rush to judgement on such claims. It is a well-worn path. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 12:18 PM (i24o9) 271
>>>Which means: watch out for Big Judiciary and their Mathematical Rights spaces bullishit.
I think we generally agree, my point is if its noted as a right in the constitution, you should be able to somehow retain that right at some point, felons don't lose their free speech rights after they serve time. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2025 12:18 PM (rvwwT) 272
Lisa Cook been stealing since she was yanked off her broadmare’s teats.
Posted by: Mortimer Duke at August 28, 2025 12:18 PM (+Y1HC) 273
Who the hell wants a banking cartel that isn’t subject to any oversight anyway? It’s a completely idiotic concept.
Remember, a unitary executive is fascism or something because you can only replace the president every 4 years. But a bunch of bureaucrats running things with no over sight and no way to remove them? That's democracy. Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2025 12:18 PM (sKqQm) 274
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Graph only covers 31 states. Remainder don't have party registrations. I'm not convinced party registration is determinative here. How many GOPes are registered Republicans? Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:17 PM (DJPFk) ====== Of course it's not everything, but 31 is a large sample, composed of very different types of states. Calling it approximately random may be acceptable. And, yes, it does not include indies, but using overall party registration as an indicator of general party affiliation is an acceptable assumption. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO) 275
Has anyone read The Creature from Jekyll Island?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (kTd/k) 276
I'm 100% in favor of self identifying they/them freaks being locked away in a fucking medeival dungeon for the rest of they're miserable lives and no amount of Lolbert hand wringing will ever change that.
Posted by: Cmonman at August 28, 2025 12:17 PM (DvpCZ) Word. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (snZF9) 277
Registration data only. Gen-Z women are as Republican as men born in the 80s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison ======== Leaves out the plurality of 'independents' and only considers party registration. And a fair amount of states do not have party registration for voting (albeit a proxy from party voting in primaries might alleviate that data issue). I would suspect that 'indy' Gen Z women would be more like their Dem counterparts while 'indy' Gen Z males trended toward their Rep bros. Party id is a fickle thing compared with actual voting and is akin to the figuring out the percent of deviants in society. Best way is confirmation of voting behavior by actual ballots. But due to secret ballots, we can only approximate that via surveys including trapping questions for liars, proxies like party id, and precinct level voting. I've played around with ecological regression models in a project to determine polarized voting in city-county consolidation votes but never formally employed it in published research. Course in that case, I was looking at race splits in voting. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5) 278
259 I just watched a video tour of the execution sites in London. The tour guide said there were more than 800,000 people executed in London between say 1300 and 1900. That was startling to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (kTd/k) I was fortunate enough to travel to Edinburgh once, we ate at one of the cafe's surrounding Haymarket square, a very popular spot for visitors, large open area surrounded by shops and markets. In the square was a marker recording the site of the town Gallows, noting that during "the troubles" around 1700, there were multiple people hung on that spot every day for over 40 years straight. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (uWKK8) 279
Has anyone read The Creature from Jekyll Island?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (kTd/k) _____ It's a biography about Stacy Abrams? Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (iFTx/) 280
Marriages blow up and frequently charges of domestic abuse crop up in divorce and custody cases. Ask any divorce attorney. They have sobering stories of weaponizing public law to support private gains in custody or property dispersal.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (ctrM5) One guy with two divorces on his record is either unlucky, or may have bad decision-making skills. More of a quip on the vicissitudes of marriage than anything else. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2025 12:21 PM (E50Nb) 281
$5 says it's not the only thing she's skirted even after she took office.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO) -------------- Indeed. Entitled Criminals tend to behave compulsively, serially, and recklessly. Give her a figurative (and literal) Proctological Exam! Posted by: ShainS -- Muslim Commie Momscrawny 2028: Free Weights for Every Cuck! at August 28, 2025 12:21 PM (dwyD4) 282
Troon surgery, on the other hand, seems intent on rushing the patients through it before they change their minds.
Posted by: whig ********* The approach of gender clinics and Adolescent Medicine doctors focuses on the notion of resolving internal conflict about the child's self perception. They wrongly believe that affirming a perception, even if it is transient, is the quickest way to resolve that internal conflict. Hence the rush to affirm, modify external appearance and name changes, setting the patient on a one-way trip to Cloud Cuckoo Land. Meanwhile the internal struggle persists. Posted by: muldoon at August 28, 2025 12:22 PM (/iMjX) 283
Has anyone read The Creature from Jekyll Island?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (kTd/k) _____ It's a biography about Stacy Abrams? Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:20 PM (iFTx/) Hmm, she might be the actual island. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 28, 2025 12:22 PM (snZF9) 284
I just watched a video tour of the execution sites in London. The tour guide said there were more than 800,000 people executed in London between say 1300 and 1900. That was startling to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (kTd/k) _______ 1300 people a year? Believable. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/) Posted by: Sports Illustrated PR team at August 28, 2025 12:22 PM (s9EN2) 286
254 Best option is the Costanza Defense
Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 28, 2025 12:13 PM (ofVJH) Second best is the Otter Defense. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 28, 2025 12:15 PM (i24o9) Oh come on now, everyone knows the Chewbacca Defense is the best defense. Posted by: Farquad at August 28, 2025 12:22 PM (NtFTC) 287
I just watched a video tour of the execution sites in London. The tour guide said there were more than 800,000 people executed in London between say 1300 and 1900. That was startling to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:16 PM (kTd/k) _______ 1300 people a year? Believable. Posted by: Elric The Blade at August 28, 2025 12:22 PM (iFTx/) Yeah, you're right. Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 28, 2025 12:23 PM (kTd/k) 288
If you're a biological male, like to dress up in women's clothes, prance around and are not an original member of Monty Python, you shouldn't be allowed a gun.
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‘ 800,000 people executed in London between say 1300 and 1900. That was startling to me.’ Less so to me. Society used to have a real urge to purge itself of its bad actors Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 12:23 PM (jbnUc) 290
Hanged. The word you are looking for is Hanged
Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:24 PM (TgO2L) 291
Nood. Bolton.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2025 12:24 PM (ExV1e) 292
That is why I cannot rush to judgement on such claims. It is a well-worn path.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder ======= Probate law practice is comparable at seeing humanity act out in the worst possible way. To some extent, probate and divorce lawyers envy criminal lawyers as criminal clients are often locked up which limits time spent with them. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:25 PM (ctrM5) 293
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‘ One guy with two divorces on his record is either unlucky, or may have bad decision-making skills. More of a quip on the vicissitudes of marriage than anything else.’ Triumph of hope over experience. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2025 12:25 PM (jbnUc) 294
Hanged. The word you are looking for is Hanged
Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:24 PM (TgO2L) That's easy for you to say. Posted by: Wun Hung Lo at August 28, 2025 12:25 PM (E50Nb) 295
Of course it's not everything, but 31 is a large sample, composed of very different types of states. Calling it approximately random may be acceptable.
And, yes, it does not include indies, but using overall party registration as an indicator of general party affiliation is an acceptable assumption. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO) -- Do people regularly and formally change their registrations? How many of those registrations are tied to dead people? What states are in the 31? Demographic data? What frequency was the data pulled? Every week? Just saying 31/50 doesn't mean much to me. Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:26 PM (cIOlQ) 296
The approach of gender clinics and Adolescent Medicine doctors focuses on the notion of resolving internal conflict about the child's self perception. They wrongly believe that affirming a perception, even if it is transient, is the quickest way to resolve that internal conflict.
——— That’s the cover story. They are weaponizing children. Wind-up time bombs. We’re seeing them go off lately, this is just the start. Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2025 12:27 PM (TgO2L) 297
In the good old days of England, a crime, no matter how big or small, was a death sentence if found guilty. Then people went soft trying to be nice and rehabilitate and blah blah blah.
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‘ 800,000 people executed in London between say 1300 and 1900. That was startling to me.’ Less so to me. Society used to have a real urge to purge itself of its bad actors Posted by: Dr. Claw ======== Whether genetics or socialization, executions tend to break up generations of dysfunctional criminals. Probably a bit of both as short time horizons and warped risk-benefit analysis are apparently genetic in origin. If such an individual is born into a family where crime is a normal activity, then the chances of them falling into crime approach 100 percent. Posted by: whig at August 28, 2025 12:28 PM (ctrM5) 299
295 Do people regularly and formally change their registrations?
How many of those registrations are tied to dead people? What states are in the 31? Demographic data? What frequency was the data pulled? Every week? Just saying 31/50 doesn't mean much to me. Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:26 PM (cIOlQ) ======= That's more a problem with past generations and not the assertion on the current one. There are obvious places where registrants don't vote along their registration like Louisiana, but that's about the older vote, not the newer one. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO) 300
Mass hysteria is getting worse and more frequent all the time.
Understandably, many people think COVID was the worst example in modern times, largely because of how widespread the hysteria got, and that may be a correct assessment. But in terms of intensity, I'm going with Troon Hysteria. Wearing the face diaper, and getting triple-vaxxed, and screaming at your neighbors about horse paste is pretty fucked up, don't get me wrong. But Troon Madness has gotten people to bring small children to be groomed by sex predators taxpayers funded in their public libraries, turn their own homes into booby hatches, torment their own children, and convert doctors' offices into a scene from an Eli Roth movie. It just beggars belief. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2025 12:33 PM (Bdwy2) 301
There are obvious places where registrants don't vote along their registration like Louisiana, but that's about the older vote, not the newer one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO) The data shown doesn't allow for that kind of conclusion. Where is that coming from? Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:34 PM (+OnsA) 302
Speaking of Cloud Cuckoo Land my 93-year-old mother in law is moving in with us from Ohio for an extended stay (pending a need for Assisted Living facility). I may not be commenting as much upcoming.
Posted by: muldoon at August 28, 2025 12:36 PM (/iMjX) 303
301 The data shown doesn't allow for that kind of conclusion. Where is that coming from?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 28, 2025 12:34 PM (+OnsA) ======= That's just a nuggest I've picked up along the way that the graph I posted doesn't touch on. Just that registered Dems in LA vote Republican a lot these days. There's the real case study in people not changing registration but changing their vote. Seems to be a largely LA thing, though. Some behavior in the Midwest, but it's much less pronounced. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, growing up with John Hughes at August 28, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO) 304
Your words:
'Yet there are people who should not have access to weapons. That is also clear. Violent felons is a tough one, but more than one felony conviction will do it for me.' Back in the late 1700's colonies, violent crimials were delt with severely/fatally. As a common sense logical result no gun restrictions were necessary. The large property owners were the judges and they had no sympathy for those stealing, killing or damaging property of any kind, including family and workers. Today, politicians and judges are typically not large property owners and as such have no vested interest in its protection. They are typically resentful, jealous, and/or envious of wealthy individuals. And as such take pleasure in their demise. Posted by: john at August 28, 2025 12:38 PM (nEWxZ) 305
You know, if my Jr. HS had brought trannies in to read to the chillrun, they would have been nailed with paper clips launched by rubber bands. Not sure today's kids have that sort of grit.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 28, 2025 12:40 PM (c711F) 306
BTW.
Those politicians and judges are the same people/Socialists that want to take away your property. You will own nothing and be totally beholden to the government. Why do you think owning a home is becoming financially more difficult by the average, middle income family? Posted by: john at August 28, 2025 12:43 PM (nEWxZ) 307
A friend of a friend calls trannys transistors, or maybe transisters. It is good to mock.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 28, 2025 01:11 PM (Hxgql) 308
Spitballs in my childhood, launched through milk carton straws!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 28, 2025 01:13 PM (Hxgql) 309
Liberals the M.S. Media Bottom Feeders always prefer to blame the Gun Lobby(NRA)Gun Owners, Gun Stores and Trump but never the ones who do it
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