Gun Thread: Third August Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Third August Edition? Seems like only a few weeks ago it was July, and before that, June. As we all know, the August 17, 2025 edition of the Gun Thread has historically been a content-lite effort. Thanks for understanding and respecting our Gun Thread traditions!!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

What did you do this past week fundamentals-wise? Anything? Anything at all?

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Happy 90th Anniversary!

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Bigly Bunch O' 1911 Content

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Holland & Holland Artistry

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Our Pal The Sewing Needle

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Highway Patrol

This week's episode: Desert Town

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The Earth Dies Screaming!

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Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Palmetto State Armory
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Target Sports USA
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Lucky Gunner Ammo NEW!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

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1 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2025 07:00 PM (+qU29)

3 Not first!!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:00 PM (Jm6kM)

4 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

5 Scoob!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:02 PM (Wnv9h)

6 I have been summoned.
I am here.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 07:03 PM (tez/p)

7 Again, no range time, but I do watch gun videos. ;-)

How is everyone doing this fine Sunday evening?
I am hearing low rolls of thunder outside my window.
Makes me think of...........shooting, what else. :-p

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:03 PM (Jm6kM)

8 https://www.foxnews.com/ukrainian sniper reportedly breaks world record 13,000 foot kill shot against.russian forces report

What do you think Weasel?

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2025 07:04 PM (+qU29)

9 Raining here, Scoobs. Thank goodness. First time this month.
But we did get the upper range completely cut.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 07:05 PM (tez/p)

10 5 Scoob!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:02 PM

RMBS!!

You're going in October, correct?

I have a hotel reservation but I have not booked a flight or rented a car yet. I am thinking this year I just might leave the guns at home and bring only my spotting scope and Kestrel.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:05 PM (Jm6kM)

11 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:03 PM

No range time either here. Friends' 30th anniversary party and lots of drinks intervened.

Did you see that our boy The AK Guy is trying his primary challenge again? I think if he gets presidential backing, he just might pull it off.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

12 "The Earth Dies Screaming" is actually a pretty decent B-movie. The title is overly lurid for the kind of film it is, but it's directed by Terrence Fisher who knew how to shoot a movie.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 17, 2025 07:06 PM (CHHv1)

13 RMBS!!

You're going in October, correct?

I have a hotel reservation but I have not booked a flight or rented a car yet. I am thinking this year I just might leave the guns at home and bring only my spotting scope and Kestrel.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:05 PM

Roger that. The RMBS Mom will be coming again as well.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

14 9 Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 07:05 PM

We have had lots of rain this past week down here.
But it is only annoying if you have to commute in it. LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:07 PM (Jm6kM)

15 What do you think Weasel?
Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2025 07:04 PM (+qU29)
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I'm not a big fan of links in the comments. If you must, please use tinyurl or a similar product.

To your question - did he hit what he was aiming at?

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:08 PM (8gM3l)

16 No rain here, but hot af this weekend. Dropping to 70 tomorrow. NE weather is bizarre.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:08 PM (Wnv9h)

17 11 Did you see that our boy The AK Guy is trying his primary challenge again? I think if he gets presidential backing, he just might pull it off.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:06 PM

I did see that. Due to company policy I cannot donate to anyone that I cannot vote for.
Thinking of circumventing that by sending a friend of my some $$$ and have him donate.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:09 PM (Jm6kM)

18 Thinking of circumventing that by sending a friend of my some $$$ and have him donate.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:09 PM

Sneaky breeky donation. I approve this message.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:10 PM (Wnv9h)

19 Good afternoon from the QE II and Icy Strait Point!

Darn right I'm worried about my permanent record.

Hey Weasel and thanks again!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:11 PM (Egt/d)

20 RMBS, any sign of that package yet?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:11 PM (dxWFK)

21 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

He got darn close last time. And I assume the guy he is trying to replace has not improved?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 07:12 PM (zZu0s)

22 .357 Magnum, .45 ACP, and .375 H&H as featured calibers this week. Fine choices and fine job, Weasel-san!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:12 PM (0sNs1)

23 I am going traveling to Europe next month. Spending 2 days in Paris then going over to London for 5 or 6 days.

With all that is going on over there I am a tad worried.
Definitely going to keep my head on a swivel as best I can.
I think how it sucks for the citizens of those two countries not being able to enjoy the freedoms we do

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:13 PM (Jm6kM)

24 Darn right I'm worried about my permanent record.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:11 PM

As should we all be.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:14 PM (0sNs1)

25 I could have done tinyurl.com but the gist was a 13,000 foot shot. Yeah did he hot the one aiming at?

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2025 07:14 PM (+qU29)

26 RMBS, any sign of that package yet?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:11 PM

Not yet. Looking every day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:17 PM (Wnv9h)

27 What did you do this past week fundamentals-wise? Anything? Anything at all?

Why, yes, Mr. Weasel. I did.
I found and fixed a flaw in my shooting/spotting at the same time. The problem was that my light 6.5 rifle would buck enough that I couldn’t get back on target to see the splash.
By drawing the stock in tighter (and shooting at the lowest exhale), I could stay on target. Resulting in a very good long range day.
I don’t have this problem with the heavier .308.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 07:17 PM (tez/p)

28 About to go out to the porch to enjoy more of yet another perfect summer day, burn a Rocky Patel No. 6, and read the gun thread and sip coffee. After a good hard swim, just another win.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:17 PM (U/Byj)

29 60 days til TXMoMe X.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:17 PM (dxWFK)

30
I think how it sucks for the citizens of those two countries not being able to enjoy the freedoms we do
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:13 PM (Jm6kM)

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If you're arrested, we'll bail you out. Right, everyone? I said, right? Helloooooo!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 17, 2025 07:18 PM (kkTda)

31 He got darn close last time. And I assume the guy he is trying to replace has not improved?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 07:12 PM

Only about 400 votes, iirc. Sounds like Gonzalez hasn't gotten the message.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:18 PM (Wnv9h)

32 Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2025 07:14 PM (+qU29)
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My standard has always been being able to put the second shot on top of the first shot. That is when you have your shit dialed in. I'm always skeptical of the super-long engagements, especially when you later find out the shooter connected on something like the 65th shot. Anyway, impressive especially if repeatable.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:18 PM (8gM3l)

33 60 days til TXMoMe X.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:17 PM

Woot!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:19 PM (Wnv9h)

34 "I think how it sucks for the citizens of those two countries not being able to enjoy the freedoms we do
Posted by: Scuba_Dude"

That's how I felt when I went to New Jersey.

Posted by: zombie Clara Peller at August 17, 2025 07:20 PM (vFG9F)

35 30 If you're arrested, we'll bail you out. Right, everyone? I said, right? Helloooooo!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 17, 2025 07:18 PM

I will bequeath my Savage 110 in .308 with a Vortex scope to................HAH!! You think I would leave this to anyone but my nephew? LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:20 PM (Jm6kM)

36 Imagine shooting pistols and rifles then having dinner, drinks and conversation with friends and you are at the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:21 PM (dxWFK)

37 Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:21 PM (dxWFK)
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I really need to get to one of these things.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:22 PM (8gM3l)

38 36 Imagine shooting pistols and rifles then having dinner, drinks and conversation with friends and you are at the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:21 PM

Looking forward to it Ben :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:22 PM (Jm6kM)

39 60 days til TXMoMe X.
Posted by: Ben Had

Yeehaw!

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:23 PM (ftFVW)

40 So, range report: before we sailed edition. We were pretty much packed and I headed to the range the 2 days before we sailed. My wife looks at me and says, "I thought there weren't any matches before we sailed?" I replied, "No, but there is one the day after we get back and I won't have time to check things before the match.

The lovely Mrs. Blake rolled her eyes and told me I was going to go through withdrawal while we were gone.

I told I'd be fine. Anyway, took both rifles out to check dope. 8 for 9 with both, 200 to 500 meters. I still find it bizarre I see no problem hitting a 4" target @ 500 meters.

....anyone got a 45? My wife may have had a point..

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:24 PM (Egt/d)

41 Lucky gunner is a good company

Posted by: MAC V SOG at August 17, 2025 07:24 PM (P4Pk9)

42 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:24 PM (Egt/d)
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Are you building range data based on Density Altitude? It will save you a lot of work.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:26 PM (8gM3l)

43 Scubs, can't wait to give ya a hug.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:26 PM (dxWFK)

44 I really need to get to one of these things.
Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:22 PM

They do sound kinda fun.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:27 PM (Wnv9h)

45 It's been too damned hot and humid to go to the range. C'mon October!

For the reloaders, I've seen a lot of sales on powder and primers lately from the usual suspects: MidwayUSA, Midsouth, and Natchez. Not just sales but sometimes reduced or no shipping or hazmat fees. Midsouth has a sale on all Starline brass at the moment.

Considering the drought in ammo supplies the last few years, this might be a time to start building up some components. Even percussion caps have been around.

Oddly, the supply of good English black flints for flintlocks has not been too reliable for a while.

Posted by: JTB at August 17, 2025 07:27 PM (yTvNw)

46 She Hobbit, I'm gonna have to bring breakfast burritos for ya'll.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:28 PM (dxWFK)

47 Oddly, the supply of good English black flints for flintlocks has not been too reliable for a while.
Posted by: JTB at August 17, 2025 07:27 PM

Maybe CBD can get you some of those French flints?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:29 PM (0sNs1)

48 Are you building range data based on Density Altitude? It will save you a lot of work.
Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:26 PM (8gM3l)
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Yes. But, after some of the dumb things I've done, when I load a new batch of ammo, I like to check my work.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:29 PM (Egt/d)

49 “My standard has always been being able to put the second shot on top of the first shot. That is when you have your shit dialed in.”

I’m pleased to report that, not only was my shit not wobbly, but it was dialed in. Three steel targets in the same area off to the left at around 865.
I didn’t realize that I had hit all three in the same spot until I sent my drone down to take a look. About 3” from center at 1 o’clock on freshly panted steel.
As I was laughing to myself, I was also laughing about Weasel’s damn fundamentals.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM (fRFTM)

50 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM (sAmhv)

51 She Hobbit, I'm gonna have to bring breakfast burritos for ya'll.
Posted by: Ben Had

Hahaha, and here I was planning to subsist on protein bars.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM (ftFVW)

52 Sniper shot.
13,000 feet = 4333 yards.
Assume the sniper has a rifle that will shoot 1 minute of angle groups (1" group at 100 yards)

4333 yards /100 yards = 43 inches. In other words, that bullet could hit anywhere inside a circle 43 inches across. Last time I checked, they aren't making 4 foot wide Russians.

I say it could happen, but there would be a lot of luck involved.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM (/3eFd)

53 Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:29 PM (Egt/d)
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We should talk about not doing dumb stuff.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:31 PM (8gM3l)

54 Hahaha, and here I was planning to subsist on protein bars.
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM (ftFVW)
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Donut Palace donuts and coffee in the mornings!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:33 PM (8gM3l)

55 Is that the video for Iron Maiden’s “Public Enema Number One”?

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 07:34 PM (vm8sq)

56 We should talk about not doing dumb stuff.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:31 PM

I was under the impression that WeaselDoctrine prohibits the doing of dumb stuff.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:35 PM (Wnv9h)

57 We should talk about not doing dumb stuff.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:31 PM (8gM3l)

Is that allowed?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 07:35 PM (zZu0s)

58
4333 yards /100 yards = 43 inches. In other words, that bullet could hit anywhere inside a circle 43 inches across. Last time I checked, they aren't making 4 foot wide Russians.

Or what we would call “circular error probability” or CEP.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 07:35 PM (vm8sq)

59 Hahaha, and here I was planning to subsist on protein bars.
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM (ftFVW)
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Donut Palace donuts and coffee in the mornings!
Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:33 PM (8gM3l)
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And cigars! 0800 hrs on the carport!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:36 PM (8gM3l)

60 (movies & TV):

"Oh magic gun! Unlock any locked thing I shoot with thee!"

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 07:36 PM (PvM3F)

61 Its the 90th anniversary of the .357? I'll have to wish my Colt .357 Revolver a happy anniversary then. No shooting since I've been back from my vacation. Not sure when I get out. The Babylon DC region tends to suck the motivation to do anything, but I'll get out to the range at some point. Sharpshooters in Lorton is the easiest one to get to. Not a fan of indoor ranges though and that one feels more compact than normal.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM (sAmhv)

62 I was under the impression that WeaselDoctrine prohibits the doing of dumb stuff.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:35 PM (Wnv9h)
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It does! Seems like Blake is going all renegade.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM (8gM3l)

63 Weasel, gonna take more than donuts to sustain Sponge, Sponge bro, She Hobbit, BruceWayne, Doof and Berserker.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM (dxWFK)

64 I lied. Switched to a Perdomo Reserve Cameroon petit corona.

Anything burnin’ tonight Weasel?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM (IDQSL)

65 My first handgun was a S&W .357 Magnum.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM (eOjAZ)

66 We should talk about not doing dumb stuff.
Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:31 PM

He's on to us!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:38 PM (0sNs1)

67 Last time I checked, they aren't making 4 foot wide Russians.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 17, 2025 07:30 PM

Much too kind, Spudboy-nik.

Posted by: Svetlana at August 17, 2025 07:38 PM (Wnv9h)

68 Weasel, chicken biscuits for you.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:38 PM (dxWFK)

69 Anything burnin’ tonight Weasel?
Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM (IDQSL)
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Perdomo Anniversario on deck!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:39 PM (8gM3l)

70 Donut Palace donuts and coffee in the mornings!
Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:33 PM (8gM3l)
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And cigars! 0800 hrs on the carport!
Posted by: Weasel

Sold!

Tonight's menu includes an H. Upmann 1844 Barbier toro sized. As with food, I always like when the meal has visual appeal. The two tone barber poll wrapper tickles my fancy.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (ftFVW)

71 II keep getting stupid anti-gun ads on YT. Which is OK, for I responded by rejoining TSRA.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (vm8sq)

72 I always wondered about sewing needles,

Posted by: Eromero at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (LHPAg)

73 'Dumb stuff' or stupid shit?

I think Weasel is trying to go all fancy pants on us!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (zZu0s)

74 Weasel, gonna take more than donuts to sustain Sponge, Sponge bro, She Hobbit, BruceWayne, Doof and Berserker.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM

You're right. We're going to need kolachis.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (Wnv9h)

75 Weasel, have you tried the " Gods of fire" yet?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (dxWFK)

76 Weasel, chicken biscuits for you.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:38 PM (dxWFK)
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But stopping at Donut Palace gives WBG such a sense of fulfillment.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (8gM3l)

77 57 Is that allowed?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 07:35 PM

Dumb stuff is definitely NOT allowed, especially at the MoMe

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (Jm6kM)

78 HVC on fire here in the setting Midwest sun. Good range day today with my Kahr. Hadn’t shot it in a while.

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 07:41 PM (MEbkQ)

79 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special greeting / note of encouragement to get his hindquarters to TXMoMe X to our gracious host Weasel.

Sadly, no shooting today or next Sunday, due to life and its attendant inconveniences.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at August 17, 2025 07:41 PM (v23vE)

80 63 Weasel, gonna take more than donuts to sustain Sponge, Sponge bro, She Hobbit, BruceWayne, Doof and Berserker.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:37 PM
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Bacon. The answer usually involves bacon.

Posted by: TRex - range delivery at August 17, 2025 07:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

81 Tonight's menu includes an H. Upmann 1844 Barbier toro sized. As with food, I always like when the meal has visual appeal. The two tone barber poll wrapper tickles my fancy.
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (ftFVW)
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Nice! I'll bring a cigar for you in October.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:41 PM (8gM3l)

82 Weasel, I had a huge assist in bad things with the bad scope I had on the 6.5-06. It was a relief to dial elevation with the Arken optic and have it track correctly.

I also finalized the load for the new barrel on the 30-06. Both rifles seem to be dialed in now.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:42 PM (Egt/d)

83 A Perdomo night then, Weasel. Anniversario? 10th, 20th, etc, one a them?

These little cameroons are nice but was gonna skip any review because they’re not easy to find.

Did I ever tell my Perdomo story from last November?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:43 PM (IDQSL)

84 Bacon. The answer usually involves bacon.
Posted by: TRex - range delivery at August 17, 2025 07:41 PM

The Bacon Wench understands this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)

85 Weasel, have you tried the " Gods of fire" yet?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (dxWFK)
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Not quite yet.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:43 PM (8gM3l)

86 Weasel, bring one for nogooddeed too!

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:43 PM (dxWFK)

87 Thanks for understanding and respecting our Gun Thread traditions!!

It's a little early for this, but let's audit and see how we're doing:

Emphasis on Fundamentals: Marginal, but present.

Exhortation to Buy Ammo: Present, but not the same as in the halcyon days of Gun Thread lore.

Cozy Cave Sitrep: Not yet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:44 PM (0sNs1)

88 Nice! I'll bring a cigar for you in October.
Posted by: Weasel

*bats eyelashes coquettishly*

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:44 PM (ftFVW)

89 A Perdomo night then, Weasel. Anniversario? 10th, 20th, etc, one a them?

These little cameroons are nice but was gonna skip any review because they’re not easy to find.

Did I ever tell my Perdomo story from last November?
Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:43 PM (IDQSL)
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20th.

I can't recall the story off the top of my haid.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:45 PM (8gM3l)

90 Weasel, bring one for nogooddeed too!
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:43 PM (dxWFK)
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Absolutely will do. Happy to hear she'll be there!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:46 PM (8gM3l)

91 Any cigar recommendations for the next week’s indulgence?

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 07:46 PM (MEbkQ)

92 In the otherwise excellent The Jackal's Mistress, set in northern VA in 1864, author Chris Bohjalian depicts the murder of pair of highwayman by a woman, done with a black powder Colt 45 revolver, after which she is careful to find and "retrieve the spent cartridges."

Wassup with that? These were percussion cap guns, with a very limited usage of paper cartridges, and majority usage being powder charged into cylinders, balls cranked in on top using the gun's integral levered plunger. I have a Pietta replica.

Is this just poor research by the novelist, or am I missing something?

Posted by: M. Gaga at August 17, 2025 07:47 PM (dDfHb)

93 "Ettes are the best, Guns, cigars, bourbon and knowing all the dance steps to "Footloose". You bring me joy.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:48 PM (dxWFK)

94 How long can a cigar keep its flavor if not stored correctly? There is a Churchill Cigar Lounge on board and I'm tempted to grab a couple for TX. But, I don't want to ruin a premier cigar by doing dumb stuff.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:49 PM (Egt/d)

95 Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:21 PM (dxWFK)
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I really need to get to one of these things.
Posted by: Weasel
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You really do, I can get my hands on a really neat gator so you can ride in comfort from range to range....

Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 07:49 PM (IQ6Gq)

96 I smoke an Arturo Fuente "Short Story" when at my local cigar joint.

Posted by: M. Gaga at August 17, 2025 07:49 PM (dDfHb)

97 Any cigar recommendations for the next week’s indulgence?
Posted by: YellowBird

Don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to recommend, but don't mind giving a +1. A few weeks back there was a review or comment recommending Drew Estate Undercrown... I quite liked it.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:50 PM (ftFVW)

98 The book Stephen King won't let be filmed.

https://is.gd/wkzCaN

Curious in that his similarly themed Apt Pupil has already been made into a movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 17, 2025 07:50 PM (L/fGl)

99 this just poor research by the novelist, or am I missing something?
Posted by: M. Gaga at August 17, 2025 07:47 PM (dDfHb)
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No research whatsoever. Revolvers don't throw brass around.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 07:51 PM (Egt/d)

100 I could have done tinyurl.com but the gist was a 13,000 foot shot. Yeah did he hot the one aiming at?

"Once is happenstance... etc.". Also, until independently confirmed or refuted I assume anything and everything said about Ukraine is BS propaganda.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 07:51 PM (3nLb4)

101 I can get my hands on a really neat gator so you can ride in comfort from range to range....
Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 07:49 PM

Content and well-fueled from Alligator Alcatraz, right? Nothing but the best for Weasel-san.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:51 PM (0sNs1)

102 She Hobbit, DBCooper sent some box pressed cigars one year. OH my. I didn't know a cigar could have that much flavor. I will hunt some up.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 07:52 PM (dxWFK)

103 97 Undercrown …

Good idea. I’ve had one that was quite tasty! THX

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 07:52 PM (MEbkQ)

104 Cozy Cave Sitrep: Not yet.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:44 PM (0sNs1)
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Maybe this will suffice:

Fun Size Joe has been trying to catch a squirrel in our backyard since we've had him. He tries really hard, but usually doesn't get very close and the squirrels chatter away in the trees.

Well yesterday, a big fat squirrel fell out of the trees and practically landed on top of FSJ with a thump. The squirrel was stunned for a couple of seconds and Joe was startled for about the same length of time.

The squirrel and Joe both came to their senses at about the same time and there was a great flurry of jumping and twisting and barking and squeaking.

Joe didn't catch the squirrel, but he's never come closer!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 07:52 PM (3nqLb)

105 Going to call it a night. Back to work tomorrow and feeling a tad tired.

And thanks again to our esteemed host Weasel for yet another great thread.

Have a great week everyone!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 17, 2025 07:53 PM (Jm6kM)

106 Eromero, did you watch the Glock vs. 1911 video?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)

107 Blake, hard to say. If stored properly, as I would expect, there should be no problem. You can kinda sorta test for dried out by touch (too hard, any cracking sounds) but that’s very crude and unreliable as sticks have varying “feel” when normal.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:54 PM (IDQSL)

108 Unfortunately, no range time this week. But I am working on grip and hand strength...
I know from experience that these next 60 days are just going to fly by...need to start organizing so everything is done in time...really looking forward to seeing everyone....

Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 07:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

109 YellowBird I think I reviewed both the connecticut and maduro Undercrowns here. Both are solid choices.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 07:56 PM (IDQSL)

110 Good evening gun threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 07:57 PM (RoO7G)

111 author Chris Bohjalian depicts the murder of pair of highwayman by a woman, done with a black powder Colt 45 revolver, after which she is careful to find and "retrieve the spent cartridges."

* sigh *

I don't expect historical accuracy in every detail but stuff like that takes me right out of my suspension of disbelief. My wife was reading some fantasy novel where the full moon is supposed to be super significant for whatever reason and the author describes it rising at all different hours of the night. If it matters enough to the story to make a point of it, get the simple stuff right.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 07:57 PM (3nLb4)

112 She Hobbit, DBCooper sent some box pressed cigars one year. OH my. I didn't know a cigar could have that much flavor. I will hunt some up.
Posted by: Ben Had

Ooooo, never had box pressed. I see an interwebs rabbit hole in my future to satisfy my peaked interest.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 17, 2025 07:57 PM (ftFVW)

113 Is this just poor research by the novelist, or am I missing something?
Posted by: M. Gaga at August 17, 2025 07:47 PM (dDfHb)

"The Terror" by Dan Simmons, a fictionalized account of the 1845 Franklin expedition to the Arctic, had British sailors using breech loading cartridge shotguns, about 25 years before they existed.

Now, excuse me, I'm going to sit in the corner and flick the thumb safety on my Glock on and off.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 17, 2025 07:59 PM (/3eFd)

114 107 Blake, hard to say. If stored properly, as I would expect, there should be no problem.

I know of at least one person who “ages” his cigars the way some people put down wine. I’ve had one or two from him that were years old and very tasty. Who has that patience?

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 07:59 PM (MEbkQ)

115 Your tax dollars at work.

https://is.gd/q1M2Gi

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 17, 2025 08:00 PM (L/fGl)

116 I age my cheroots in rum.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:01 PM (dxWFK)

117 YellowBird, and as with wine, only certain cigars improve much with time. Generally they are shipped ready to be burned. The tobaccos involved in some cases have been aged many years prior to rolling. Three years aging prior to rolling is a common minimum for most premium cigars.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:04 PM (IDQSL)

118 We watched a movie on Netflix called Freelance with John Cena. There's a South American dictator with what Cena calls a hand cannon.

It was a big gold plated revolver 8 inch barrel or so. I said to Sra blaster I am pretty sure that is a Colt Anaconda. She thought it was cool.

So today DMV MGC (-) (Ed L. and us) go to the range and what does Ed L. Whip out?

An Anaconda!

Serendipity!

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 08:04 PM (RoO7G)

119 There were some metallic case BP cartridges by the 1860s like the Spenser repeating rifle. Don't know if there were revolvers yet.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 08:05 PM (3nLb4)

120 JTB would know.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 08:06 PM (3nLb4)

121 Colt is making blued revolvers again. I may be persuaded to get one eventually.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2025 08:07 PM (b4o9z)

122 Rhomboid … three years, huh. Seems like I heard something like that in the “old days.” I grew up as a pipe smoker. That era is pretty much gone.

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 08:07 PM (MEbkQ)

123 Blued, silver engraved and wood grips.Be still my heart.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:09 PM (dxWFK)

124 There were some metallic case BP cartridges by the 1860s like the Spenser repeating rifle. Don't know if there were revolvers yet.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 08:05 PM (3nLb4)

Smith and Wesson had the patent for cartridge firing revolvers with bored through cylinders starting with the Model 1 in 1857, and they fiercely defended it. The attempts by others to work around the patent were just plain odd.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 17, 2025 08:12 PM (/3eFd)

125 Weasel OK here’s the Perdomo story. Stopped over in Miami a few days en route to a sailing trip in the Caribbean. Went to Perdomo HQ in Miami Gardens. Got there close to closing time. Managed to burn a 10th Anniversary maduro in their lounge - which featured a life-size cardboard stand-up photo of The Donald (election was days away).

Their humidor had, naturally, their entire line, wanted to buy one of everything!

So waiting for my Uber, they’re locking up, Nick Perdomo III stayed there to lock the gate after I was picked up. We chatted about the cigar industry, then the election. We both expressed concern that the outcome had to be a certain one, or whoa. Anyway very nice guy and was fun to talk with him while he graciously hung out til my ride showed.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:12 PM (IDQSL)

126 We watched a movie on Netflix called Freelance with John Cena.

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I saw Heads of State (no, it's not a Kamala biography) and thought Cena did a surprisingly good job portraying a comedic arrogant asshole action hero movie star turned US president. It may not have been Shakespeare but still . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 17, 2025 08:13 PM (L/fGl)

127 Well the shooting of the Anaconda was short lived. We blame the ammo. Seemed to swell the casings after firing and that would push the shell out just a bit and keep the cylinder from turning.

So we settled in to shooting 9mm semiautomatics.

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 08:13 PM (RoO7G)

128 98: Not SK but that kind of sounds like the movie 'Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer'. It's not banned though. Still out there on the interwebs. Disturbing, dark, movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at August 17, 2025 08:14 PM (sAmhv)

129 Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:12 PM (IDQSL)
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Cool man!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 08:14 PM (3nqLb)

130 RMBS, I just did a drone video of the upper range right after the annual clearing was done. I’m having a heckuva time getting it to download, but I’ll let you know when it’s up.
Pretty amazing when the brush is down.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 08:16 PM (tmOJm)

131 Ben Had for reasons passing understanding I remember DB Cooper sent a box of CAO Flatheads (I think).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:16 PM (IDQSL)

132 RMBS, I just did a drone video of the upper range right after the annual clearing was done. I’m having a heckuva time getting it to download, but I’ll let you know when it’s up.
Pretty amazing when the brush is down.
Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 08:16 PM

Niiice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 08:18 PM (Wnv9h)

133 Good evening all and a bigly thank you to Weasel for some great content. Looking forward to all the 1911 videos.

Boy, howdy did this weekend go fast, though.

Posted by: Coelacanth at August 17, 2025 08:19 PM (+OnsA)

134 Blaster what kind/brand of ammo? That shouldn’t happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:19 PM (IDQSL)

135 rhomboid, that was very possibly the one. I have it written down somewhere. I do know that I remember them to this day
I do so wish you would be able to join us to share one.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:21 PM (dxWFK)

136 I just saw a commercial for an interview of Amanda Knox by Monica Lewinsky so I guess that's a thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 17, 2025 08:21 PM (L/fGl)

137 Well, signing off while still in cell range.

Thanks again for the thread, Weasel!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 17, 2025 08:22 PM (Egt/d)

138 Blaster, FWIW a friend of mine had similar thing with his new Python. I don’t know all the details, but he ended up sending the gun back to Colt. Fit and tolerance issues he claimed. Came back and shot fine. Beats me

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 08:24 PM (MEbkQ)

139 Up first: Kimber CDS9. Lots of good shooting with it. Sra blaster finally decided to just shoot and not overthink it. That really helped.

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 08:27 PM (RoO7G)

140 I don't care what any of you say. HiPoint has put out the Model JHP 45 Gen2 M81 in 45ACP. (Also 9mm for the Eurosnobs). And it looks bitchin'!!! And an unreal price.
I own the HP 4595 carbine and it kicks ass!
So poopy on you naysayers!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 08:28 PM (2WIwB)

141 Some day, Ben Had. Your graciousness and generosity are appreciated even by those who haven’t (yet!) been able to make it.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:28 PM (IDQSL)

142 @134 I forget Ed L. Will know.

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 08:29 PM (RoO7G)

143 rhomboid, that was very possibly the one. I have it written down somewhere. I do know that I remember them to this day
I do so wish you would be able to join us to share one.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:21 PM

Oooo....nice. Cao are good smokes. I haven't had one in years, but the RMBS Dad and I enjoyed quite a few back in the day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 08:30 PM (Wnv9h)

144 Diogenes what’s the caliber on that carbine? HiPoint definitely serves a purpose in putting equalizers in hands that don’t have lots of $ for the purpose, a real virtue in a society with the right to keep and bear.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 08:32 PM (IDQSL)

145 A day on the pistol range with nurse, steck and Weasel buddy Geoff. Weasel, blake and scuba_ dude on the rifle range. Your meal cooked by CBD and Pete Bog and the Disco brought to you by Doof. That is just part of the TXMoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:32 PM (dxWFK)

146 Mine is .45.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 08:32 PM (2WIwB)

147 Any cigar recommendations for the next week’s indulgence?
Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 07:46 PM (MEbkQ)

Do NOT try the Gurka.Ghost series.
At least for now.
Research continues...review for Weasel to be sent soon.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 08:35 PM (2WIwB)

148 I'm getting a forced reset trigger for my SP5. It's coming in the mail. Crazy

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2025 08:37 PM (b4o9z)

149 147 Do NOT try the Gurka.Ghost series.

Thanks ...
Yeah, I've not had the best luck with Gurka. Just not my jam, I suppose.
Got friends who like 'em.

Thanks all for cigar wisdom.
Thanks Weasel for thread. Signing off somewhere still daylight, barely.

Posted by: YellowBird at August 17, 2025 08:37 PM (MEbkQ)

150 Also shot P320 RXP. It only shot when we pulled the trigger which is nice.

I shoot with it better than my P226 Legion which kind of pisses me off.

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 08:37 PM (RoO7G)

151 "Once is happenstance... etc.". Also, until independently confirmed or refuted I assume anything and everything said about Ukraine is BS propaganda.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 07:51 PM (3nLb4)

I died first.

Posted by: The Truth at August 17, 2025 08:38 PM (vm8sq)

152 Thanks so much for the Gun Thresd Weasel! Always appreciate the content and also Rhomboid's excellent reviews.

Posted by: DBCooper at August 17, 2025 08:38 PM (3GOw3)

153 DBCooper, thank you for your generosity.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:40 PM (dxWFK)

154 I used to buy cheap C&R revolvers at gunshows, and I was rooting through a safe the other day, and found one of my purchases.

A Dutch Model of 1879 9.4 mm revolver.

To my dismay, 20 rounds new manufacture will cost me $100, so that one is not going to be a daily carry.

I was looking for the Spanish revolver in 8mm Lebel.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2025 08:40 PM (rbvCR)

155 71 II keep getting stupid anti-gun ads on YT. Which is OK, for I responded by rejoining TSRA.
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 07:40 PM (vm8sq)

And to avoid the annoyance of constantly paying out the annual fee, I just got a life membership and called it good.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 08:40 PM (vm8sq)

156
I have quite the number of gov't mags and a goodly amount of gov't .45ACP. This may be why my 1911 just runs and runs with no issue. Keeping it clean doesn't hurt either.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 17, 2025 08:40 PM (hKoQL)

157 dutch 1873, that is.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2025 08:41 PM (rbvCR)

158 I need to give my guns a spa day.

Posted by: jsg at August 17, 2025 08:41 PM (p4wT3)

159 Need to brush up on my skeet skills.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:43 PM (dxWFK)

160 1911. Obsolete???
Bwahahaha!

Tisas 1911 in .45 and 9mm.
Sweet shooter!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 08:44 PM (2WIwB)

161
What a shock that the comments are turned off at YouTube for that movie. I'm 9.5 minutes into it and it's so bad it's bad.

Woman who was in an oxygen tent in the hospital wakes up and finds everyone dead. She and her brother make their way to a quaint inn out in the country and she's somehow coiffed, dressed, and made up. She stares down her nose at a random survivor she and her brother encounter in the inn and enquires smoothly, "May I have a drink, please?"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM (ny95y)

162 I'm really wrestling with the idea of bringing 2 bolt action rifles to the MoMe. Both are heavy barrel .308 Remington 700s. One has never been fired, but it just got a new vortex scope and is bore sighted. The other hasn't been fired in 30 years, but the last time it was fired regularly it could do 5 shot groups dead center in the space of a quarter at 100 yards . Its been so long I really want to see if it's where it used to be, and the other needs to be tested and have the scope zeroed etc. Then test them at longer ranges.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM (snZF9)

163 Blonde Morticia, there you are. Was about to do a wellness check.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 08:48 PM (dxWFK)

164 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM (snZF9)
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I can help with that!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 08:49 PM (Ldgt5)

165 There were some metallic case BP cartridges by the 1860s like the Spenser repeating rifle. Don't know if there were revolvers yet.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 08:05 PM (3nLb4)

There was a French designer who developed a cartridge breech loader during the Napoleonic wars, but the first real cartridge gun was the French Chassepot Mdle 1866. The Germans were so impressed they developed the 1871 Mauser from it.

The British developed the Snyder-Enfield conversion in 1866, and the French and Belgians made Tabathier breech loading conversion about 1861

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2025 08:50 PM (rbvCR)

166 Posted by: DBCooper at August 17, 2025 08:38 PM (3GOw3)
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Thanks! Rhomboid does an excellent job with those, and Diogenes, too!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 08:51 PM (Ldgt5)

167 106 Eromero, did you watch the Glock vs. 1911 video?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 17, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)
Yep, and I have both as you may surmise, but the last thing I bought was a........Tisas Stingray.

Posted by: Eromero at August 17, 2025 08:51 PM (LHPAg)

168 I'm really wrestling with the idea of bringing 2 bolt action rifles to the MoMe. Both are heavy barrel .308 Remington 700s. One has never been fired, but it just got a new vortex scope and is bore sighted. The other hasn't been fired in 30 years, but the last time it was fired regularly it could do 5 shot groups dead center in the space of a quarter at 100 yards . Its been so long I really want to see if it's where it used to be, and the other needs to be tested and have the scope zeroed etc. Then test them at longer ranges.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM (snZF9)

I have 700 in .308.
100 yards?
Dude. Let that horse run!
Push that target out to 400 yards and let the fun begin!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 08:51 PM (2WIwB)

169 We watched "The Earth Dies Screaming" not long ago.
Good movie.
Surprisingly little screaming though. Really - almost none at all.
Since we watched it I'm betting it was free on Tubi since that's where we get most of those sorts of movies.

Posted by: KCSteve at August 17, 2025 08:52 PM (bxAlI)

170 It's extremely important that you NEVER fart in the ocean. It attracts both jellyfish and sharks. Jellyfish move faster so they will attack and leave you temporarily paralyzed and unable to escape when the sharks arrive. Again, NEVER fart in the ocean

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:53 PM (Gv/ba)

171 @134 I forget Ed L. Will know.
Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2025 08:29 PM (RoO7G)

250 grain total metal plated from Ammo Incorporated, Scottsdale, AZ. Worked fine in my 1956 Colt SAA. I'm guessing it didn't like the tighter tolerances of the 1995 Anaconda.

Posted by: Ed L at August 17, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

172 Again, NEVER fart in the ocean
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:53 PM (Gv/ba)

That's like saying don't pee in the ocean.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 08:55 PM (MoMgw)

173 According to FOX, the Federal intervention in the Policing in Washington DC also meant that the standard months' long procedure and paper chase to get a concealed carry permit in Washington DC has been reduced to days.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2025 08:56 PM (rbvCR)

174 I can help with that!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 08:49 PM (Ldgt5)

Well then, I guess I'm bringing them, lol.

The one that was never fired is a 700P.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:56 PM (snZF9)

175 170 It's extremely important that you NEVER fart in the ocean. It attracts both jellyfish and sharks. Jellyfish move faster so they will attack and leave you temporarily paralyzed and unable to escape when the sharks arrive. Again, NEVER fart in the ocean
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:53 PM (Gv/ba)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.

Posted by: Mao at August 17, 2025 08:56 PM (vm8sq)

176 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM (snZF9)
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Bring Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr for inside 700 yds and FGMM 175 gr for beyond that. No reason we shouldn't get you onto the plate at 1k with that setup.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 08:57 PM (Ldgt5)

177 That's like saying don't pee in the ocean.

Mmmm! Salsa!
- sharks

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:58 PM (Gv/ba)

178 173 According to FOX, the Federal intervention in the Policing in Washington DC also meant that the standard months' long procedure and paper chase to get a concealed carry permit in Washington DC has been reduced to days.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2025 08:56 PM (rbvCR)

Yeah, but can you GET one there? If I roll into DC with my TX LTC, will the authorities recognize it there?

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 08:58 PM (vm8sq)

179 Mmmm! Salsa!
- sharks
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:58 PM (Gv/ba)

Wouldn't it be like mmmm marinade?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 17, 2025 09:00 PM (MoMgw)

180
Blonde Morticia, there you are. Was about to do a wellness check.
Posted by: Ben Had

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You guys are sweet! I've been insanely busy the past week, in fact ran myself into the ground and got sick. I'm weak but recovering.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 17, 2025 09:01 PM (ny95y)

181 I have 700 in .308.
100 yards?
Dude. Let that horse run!
Push that target out to 400 yards and let the fun begin!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 08:51 PM (2WIwB)

Yeah, in jersey you're not finding many places to shoot long range. The few times I managed to fire this one far out it was pretty good. They were the last things I ever bought and never really finished the setups on them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 09:01 PM (snZF9)

182 I could have done tinyurl.com but the gist was a 13,000 foot shot. Yeah did he hot the one aiming at?

"Once is happenstance... etc.". Also, until independently confirmed or refuted I assume anything and everything said about Ukraine is BS propaganda.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 17, 2025 07:51 PM (3nLb4)

Saw another video about that. The shooter (or shooters, since it was a team of two on that 14.5mm rifle) had help from a spotter drone, someone in the rear running calculations and corrections on a ballistic computer, and a lot of shots (at least seven or eight in the vid I saw) before they got a hit. It was more like forward observers walking in artillery rounds to the target. I'm not certain that the targets even knew that they were under long range sniper fire, because it didn't appear to me that they took any evasive action or attempt to change their position in the building targeted.

Pre-WWII, gunners on the M1917A1 and Vickers water cooled machineguns were taught to use indirect fire to walk rounds onto their targets. The Ukrainians appear to have refined this w/ spotter drones and ballistic computers in 2025.

Posted by: Ed L at August 17, 2025 09:06 PM (BCwQW)

183 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM

Do it!!!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 09:06 PM (Wnv9h)

184 DBCooper!

How’s the fire fighting going? Thank you so much for the risks you take and the courage you show protecting our wilderness and homes.

You’re a freaking rock star in my book.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2025 09:08 PM (f6yyg)

185 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 08:47 PM (snZF9)
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I can help with that!
Posted by: Weasel
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Not my business, but sounds like the makings of a seminar for your mome.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 17, 2025 09:10 PM (/lPRQ)

186 Does anyone know if RI Red will be in attendance at the TX MoMe X?

Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 09:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

187 Yeah, but can you GET one there? If I roll into DC with my TX LTC, will the authorities recognize it there?
Posted by: Cow Demon at August 17, 2025 08:58 PM (vm8sq)

Hahahaha!

No. According to the USCCA Reciprocity site:

Washington D.C. does not honor CCW licenses from any state or subdivision of the United States.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 17, 2025 09:13 PM (RoO7G)

188 So, for that 4,000 meter Ukrainian sniper shot, I don't think it meets Weasel's definition of long range shooting. This was definitely a team effort; the shooter(s) didn't have to do everything in their own heads like that Brit in Afghanistan who got a hit on a bad guy at 2,750 meters (or something like that). That guy and his spotter did it all themselves.

Posted by: Ed L at August 17, 2025 09:14 PM (BCwQW)

189 Hey Ben Had have I made official attendance notification at the TxMoMe for sra blaster and myself? If not, can I do so right here?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 17, 2025 09:15 PM (RoO7G)

190 At dinner tonight we were discussing foreign gun manufacturers setting up shop in the US for various reasons, not the least of which now would be tariffs.

But put me in mind of a TFBTV video at Beretta in Italy. Oldest firearms manufacturer in the world. From like the 1500s.

Wow.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 17, 2025 09:17 PM (RoO7G)

191 Going from memory. The S and W model 1 cartridge was made from copper not brass. A rimfire equivalent to a 22 short. I believe the main market was for urban civilians and I've read they were popular even though they were not powerful.

The Colt Richards conversion from the early 1870s, using parts from their cap and ball revolvers and new cylinders with a loading gate looks more like the popular concept of a single action revolver. It was a step closer to the Colt Peacemaker style that came along soon after.

I've always thought the development of the brass centerfire cartridge, with the replaceable primer, was as important as the bored through cylinder platform. It allowed for more powerful cartridges and made reloading easier.

Posted by: JTB at August 17, 2025 09:18 PM (yTvNw)

192 Not my business, but sounds like the makings of a seminar for your mome.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 17, 2025 09:10 PM (/lPRQ)
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Great idea!

8am Friday on the carport.

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 09:18 PM (6/oTW)

193 Saw a video of some company - and I say that lightly because it really seems like a a software nerd who likes guns - with autonomous anti-drone machine guns. And they roll up a prius or something, open the hatch, and start shooting drones out of the sky.

1. It looks really cool.
2. No way this could go badly, right?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 17, 2025 09:20 PM (RoO7G)

194 Weasel, I have to call it a night. Thanks for hosting, and see you next week!

Posted by: Ed L at August 17, 2025 09:20 PM (BCwQW)

195 Again, NEVER fart in the ocean
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:53 PM (Gv/ba)

If you have to fart, fart! You will feel much better for it.
Posted by: Mao

Never. You will loose buoyancy.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 17, 2025 09:21 PM (/lPRQ)

196 Does anyone know if RI Red will be in attendance at the TX MoMe X?
Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 09:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

I’ll ask him.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 09:23 PM (tez/p)

197 Time to punch out for the night.

Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 17, 2025 09:25 PM (Wnv9h)

198 OK, all y'all. 9:26 thank you time.

Thank you!

I appreciate you being here tonight and hope to see you next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at August 17, 2025 09:26 PM (Jtz/H)

199 blaster, consider it done..

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 09:27 PM (dxWFK)

200 Thx, Weasel.

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 09:28 PM (tez/p)

201 199 blaster, consider it done..
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2025 09:27 PM (dxWFK)

Roger!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 17, 2025 09:31 PM (RoO7G)

202 Yeah, in jersey you're not finding many places to shoot long range. The few times I managed to fire this one far out it was pretty good. They were the last things I ever bought and never really finished the setups on them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 09:01 PM (snZF9)

Well. Once you do, you're gonna love it!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 09:31 PM (2WIwB)

203 Hey Nurse! Busy. Have all planes out and crews working busily. The Grand Canyon fire and loss of the Lodge and Cabins was a real kick in the pants but the Park Service wouldnt allow the use of Fire Retardant to "protect the natural Beauty of the Park" I guess Burning down the Historic lodge and 70 cabins protected the Natural Beauty and made it look like the surface of the moon.

Posted by: DBCooper at August 17, 2025 09:34 PM (3GOw3)

204 JTB mentioned up top that reloading components seem to be enjoying some sales and decent prices - and obviously availability - these days. Gonna go do my quick ammoseek.com check for my "reference" component prices (hey - it's probably more useful than BLS's employment numbers).

But his advice stands regardless: for those of you out there who are reloaders, unless you did so in the past, highly recommended you pay attention, snipe at sales and deals, and build those inventories. Despite America's New Golden Era, down-side risk remains (i.e., half the population hasn't been removed or barred from voting).

I piled stuff high twice, after the Obamanation initially, and after the fever dies down after Newtown. Still using the components I bought back then. Good basis price, but also, I've got the stuff. Situational awareness in this case consists of taking a 10- or 20-yr view, and stockpiling so you can not participate in "panics".

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:36 PM (U/Byj)

205 DB Cooper that sounds absurd, and familiar. JFC, pardon my blasphemy. As if fire retardant permanently - or even past a few rainfalls and regrowth - changes the beauty of the park.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:37 PM (U/Byj)

206 Does anyone know if RI Red will be in attendance at the TX MoMe X?
Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 09:13 PM (IQ6Gq)

I’ll ask him.
Posted by: RI Red
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Great. I'll look forward to hearing what you find out!

Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 09:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

207 205 DB Cooper that sounds absurd, and familiar. JFC, pardon my blasphemy. As if fire retardant permanently - or even past a few rainfalls and regrowth - changes the beauty of the park.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:37 PM (U/Byj)

Probably banned because of the word retard is in it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at August 17, 2025 09:39 PM (RoO7G)

208 Probably banned because of the word retard is in it.
Posted by: blaster

LOL

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2025 09:40 PM (mT+6a)

209 Yeah, in jersey you're not finding many places to shoot long range. The few times I managed to fire this one far out it was pretty good. They were the last things I ever bought and never really finished the setups on them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 09:01 PM (snZF9)

Well. Once you do, you're gonna love it!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2025 09:31 PM (2WIwB)

Well, I had a cousin that lived in PA, so I used to go out there. I wanted to bring these 2 really as an experiment. I never used a vortex scope, and really want to see how good or bad it is. My older 700 probably could use a better scope, but I want to see if its worth getting another vortex or something better depending on the one I just got works out.. What I did have a lot of time on was a slightly older Kahles, but that was a while back, but I knew it good. The turret knobs were calibrated for the 308. I still got it, but it's on a mount specific for something else. Since I haven't shot in 30 years I have to get acquainted with this newer shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 17, 2025 09:41 PM (snZF9)

210 Great. I'll look forward to hearing what you find out!
Posted by: The Grateful at August 17, 2025 09:39 PM (IQ6Gq)

Working on it!

Posted by: RI Red at August 17, 2025 09:43 PM (tez/p)

211 OK, Rhomboid's Bureau of Reloading Component Statistics reports the following:

small pistol primers - 3 cents/per (Brand X), cheapest legacy major brand (Winchester) 4.5 cents/per; not bad, considering the hyper-inflation that has doubled so many things, and affected of course the ingredients for these products

large rifle primers - 5.6 cents/per for CCI

pistol powder

HP38 - $39/lb (ouch); this could be close to double what I last paid

rifle powder

Varget - $54/lb (haven't used, don't know what it used to cost)

All prices do not include shipping or hazmat fees, online purchases.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:45 PM (U/Byj)

212 It's extremely important that you NEVER fart in the ocean. It attracts both jellyfish and sharks. Jellyfish move faster so they will attack and leave you temporarily paralyzed and unable to escape when the sharks arrive. Again, NEVER fart in the ocean
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at August 17, 2025 08:53 PM (Gv/ba)

One of my best buddies back in high school used to call that "floating a sea biscuit". I still do. No way I'm stopping now.

Posted by: Doof at August 17, 2025 09:46 PM (QMAsf)

213 Anybody used the "Servicios Aventuras" small pistol primers? That's a brand that appeared I believe during the recent panic (each panic seems to draw in a new non-US brand, which of course is our friend supply and demand working, virtuously).

Also have never used Ginex primers, they appeared during the 2020 Great Idiocy, I think.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:48 PM (U/Byj)

214 Cigar of the Day -

Torano Exodus 1959 '50 Years'
Box-pressed robusto 5.5 x 55.

Excellent construction. Sharp burn line. Being box-pressed it had a good draw. Brazilian wrapper so medium-full flavor.

Cigars, like wine, quality and flavor vary with vintage. This one had the new band so surely different than the first ones I have tried. Not quite as distinctive as the older ones I have tried, but not disappointed.

Torano is a good brand and all their lines are worth a try.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 17, 2025 09:48 PM (/lPRQ)

215 Itinerant, thanks for that review! It's great to horde-source as we get a lot more different sticks in the mix.

I had one Torano a few years back as part of a sampler, but don't have notes on it. Will check into the one you described here.

I'm a big fan of Brazilian leaf, arapiraca or mata fina.

Article on Brazilian tobacco:

https://tinyurl.com/4wrk3zjt

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:53 PM (U/Byj)

216 I enjoy James Reeves presentation skills. And the video of him with Jimmy Cannon is absolutely great.

I'm having a bit of difficulty with "properly" gripping my first semi auto pistol after shooting revolvers my entire life.

This guy helps me more than anyone at the range I go to.

Posted by: pawn at August 17, 2025 09:53 PM (9heow)

217 Farting in the ocean is the primary function of manatees and they have indeed perfected it over many thousands of years before mankind could appreciate their skills and melodiousness.

Posted by: pawn at August 17, 2025 09:58 PM (9heow)

218 practice oftener

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at August 17, 2025 10:01 PM (YlWIZ)

219 213 Anybody used the "Servicios Aventuras" small pistol primers? That's a brand that appeared I believe during the recent panic (each panic seems to draw in a new non-US brand, which of course is our friend supply and demand working, virtuously).

Also have never used Ginex primers, they appeared during the 2020 Great Idiocy, I think.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2025 09:48 PM (U/Byj)

I have used both, both went bang every time. Norma usually has the SA primers on their website. The Ginex don't seem to be as available as they used to be or the price went up.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at August 17, 2025 10:36 PM (g2gIz)

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