Hamas Claims Copyright on Its Own Video Documenting Its Terrorist Atrocities of 10/7;<br>The Cowardly Toronto Film Festival Rejects a Documentary Using This Video

Hamas Claims Copyright on Its Own Video Documenting Its Terrorist Atrocities of 10/7;
The Cowardly Toronto Film Festival Rejects a Documentary Using This Video

So much. Cultural. Enrichment.

Hen Mazzig
@HenMazzig
BREAKING: The Toronto International Film Festival has pulled an October 7 documentary over alleged "Hamas copyright" claims.
TIFF removed The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue, which tells the story of Noam Tibon, who saved his two granddaughters while surrounded by Hamas terrorists at the Nova music festival.
The festival claimed the film used Nir Oz massacre footage "owned" by Hamas and that the filmmakers lacked "legal clearance" to use images Hamas itself posted on October 7.
The real reason, however, may not have been legal risk at all, but rather a desire to avoid "Free Palestine" protests.
By granting Hamas legal legitimacy and silencing the truth of October 7, TIFF chose cowardice.
Despicable.

Tamari
@tammydiamonds
The Toronto International Film Festival @TIFF_NET is blocking a film about October 7 "The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue" because it includes footage Hamas filmed themselves, proudly livestreaming their own massacre.
The festival demanded the filmmakers get "legal clearance" from Hamas for that footage before it could be shown.
Yes, you read that right: footage of their own atrocities can’t be shown unless the terrorists give permission.
This is how far gone the West is protecting the "IP rights" of mass murderers while silencing the truth of their crimes and their victims.

David Strom notes that even Canada still proclaims Hamas to be a terror organization, so Hamas' access to Canadian courts to vindicate its copyright on rape and murder would be limited.

So that's not the real reason. The real reason is that they're afraid of being blown up or machine-gunned, just as all the media refrained from posting cartoons of Mohammad after the Charlie Hebdo massacre. (And the often-forgotten Hyper Market massacre of Jews that took place at the same time.)

Is our culture enriching?

At Real Clear World, J.T. Young writes of the never-ending terrorism of Hamas.

Hamas' Terror Has Expanded

While it seems impossible for Hamas' terror to worsen, it has. Having unleashed a genocidal terrorist attack on Israel two years ago, and still holding Israeli hostages, Hamas is now doing the same to Gaza. For Hamas, death has gone from being its perverted means to being its only end. Yet grotesque as Hamas' terror has become, civilized nations are pushing to implicitly validate it.
On October 7, 2023, Hamas perpetrated an unquestionably genocidal attack on Israel, killing every Jew--man, woman, or child--it could; it committed atrocities; it took hostages; approaching two years later, it still holds those hostages.
Israel responded as would any nation whose citizens had been so attacked. In WWII, the Allies--such as Britain, France, and Canada--demanded nothing less than unconditional surrender and held trials for Axis war criminals. Israel is justified to demand nothing less from Hamas.
Over the almost two years, Hamas has not slackened its zeal for killing Israelis; only its means for doing so have been diminished. It still embeds its terrorists among civilians; it still fires rockets indiscriminately into civilian populations--both Israel's (intentionally, as it has long done) and Gaza's (presumably unintentionally); when it releases hostages, it only does so on terms heavily favorable to it; it steadfastly refuses to release all the hostages it holds.
For nearly two years, Hamas has shown an utter disregard for human life. Now, its terror has expanded to include the Gazan people on a mass scale. Not that Hamas has not already caused enough carnage in Gaza. Roughly 60,000 have died in the war that Hamas brought on Gaza; Hamas is also careful to never divulge how much of that number is due to its own rockets or embedding among the civilian populations. Hamas has deliberately killed and tortured Gazans who oppose its leadership.
Dramatically higher Gazan casualties now loom. Starvation's specter stretches over Gaza as Hamas is accused of stealing aid to the civilian population to resell on the black market.
Of course, Hamas could stop the threat of starvation at a moment's notice by simply releasing all remaining hostages and surrendering--something it could have done at any point over the last two years. That it would still refuse to do so, even with the threat of starvation looming in Gaza, is no surprise. Such disregard for human life has always been at the heart of Hamas' methods.
Dating back to the second intifada, during which Hamas emerged, suicide bombings were a prominent element, the most deadly being Hamas' 2002 killing of 30 Israelis in Netanya. Following Hamas taking control of Gaza's government, it systematically purged its opponents and constructed tunnels throughout the territory, including under schools and hospitals. Into these, Hamas sent its terrorists and then hostages, knowingly guaranteeing civilian casualties when Israel struck back.
Civilian deaths in Gaza was not a byproduct of Hamas' strategy of waging terrorist war on Israel; they were integral to it: a callous propaganda tool. Now starvation's threat takes Hamas' unconscionable strategy to another level of human destruction.
It is clear to anyone objectively viewing the current situation: Hamas bears full responsibility for the carnage since October 7, 2023, not only in Israel but in Gaza too. Hamas also bears full responsibility for that now looming over the people it cynically declares to be its primary concern.

Footage shows Hamas-linked charities filming themselves “giving” food to Gazan children—only to snatch it back once the cameras stop rolling.

Every video coming out of Gaza is staged propaganda.

pic.twitter.com/b6kfrHOI0b
— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) August 7, 2025

WAKE UP WORLD! Because the world is BLIND to the fake Gazawood propaganda videos- fake starvation, fake pictures, fake videos - and MSM is happy to lie to the world by being the Hamas mouthpiece. SHAME ON YOU ! pic.twitter.com/Db6hdcqi8J
— Max Radford (@maxradford10) August 7, 2025

And of course the "western" media is aiding Hamas in its lies. Late last month, the NYT posted a front-page photo, provided by Hamas, to prove that children are starving.

In fact, the child photographed has a rare genetic disease that causes his skeletal appearance. The "Western" media cropped his brother out of the photo -- because the brother, not having the same disease, is perfectly healthy, and showing him would expose the lie that this child is thin due to "starvation."

After having posted this propaganda picture on the top of page AI, it then issued a "correction" only on its barely-followed PR channel. The lie went out to the world, the retraction went out to 50,000 people.

Major media outlets have become the propaganda arm of Hamas.

They publish dramatic images without context, amplify distortions that vilify Israel, and then quietly issue corrections but only after the damage is done.

This isn’t journalism. It’s propaganda, dressed up with a… pic.twitter.com/wgbW6aBKTU
— Israel Foreign Ministry (@IsraelMFA) July 31, 2025

Incredibly, while the "western" media in America continues to cover this up, even the left-wing German newspaper Das Bild has reported on Hamas's endless propaganda.

Voice From The East
@EasternVoices
WOW!
The biggest newspaper in Germany @BILD just exposed what other media outlets are trying to hide: The deliberate staging of Hamas propaganda by photographers in Gaza, that are later sold for tens of thousands of dollars to western media outlets to create a false narrative to demonise Israel and strengthen Hamas.
The article analyses the case of Anas Zayed Fteiha, a so-called "freelance journalist" who works for the Turkish state news agency Anadolu. On paper, he's a reporter, but in reality, he's an Islamic propagandist with a camera. That's obvious from his social media posts, where he proudly poses in combat gear and shares slogans like "Free Palestine" or even "F*** Israel." Neutrality? Not a chance.
The article shows that many of his photos deliver exactly what Hamas needs: suffering, rubble, crying children captured in perfect lighting. The kind of imagery that instantly sparks outrage against Israel in the West. But where are the photos that show the full picture? For example, the scenes where adult men collect food that's actually being distributed? Those images vanish into obscurity. Instead, the "emotional shockers" end up in outlets like stern, CNN, BBC, Deutschlandfunk--and even in BILD itself.
And none of this is a coincidence. The Süddeutsche Zeitung (SZ) confirms what experts have been saying for a long time: 𝗻𝗼 𝗰𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗮 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗚𝗮𝘇𝗮 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗛𝗮𝗺𝗮𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗹 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝘁.
Historian Gerhard Paul puts it plainly: in southern Gaza, Hamas controls 100% of visual output. In other words, any photographer who doesn't produce what the terrorists want is out of a job. That's why the suffering is always portrayed one-sidedly, it's designed to provoke sympathy in the West and stir anger at Israel.
Even historical parallels are drawn: back in 2002, Arafat staged himself in his "fortress" in Ramallah as a tragic hero by candlelight cameras on, spotlights off, pure emotion. Minutes later, he was back under bright lights. Same trick, different setting.
The disturbing part? Major news agencies and media outlets play along. They buy these images without questioning who's behind them. Reuters defends itself by saying, "Our photos meet standards of accuracy and independence", but it's clear that in a place where Hamas monitors every pixel, true independence is impossible.
And now the key question: Why don't we see revelations like this in other media? Why doesn't ARD produce a report on how tightly Hamas controls imagery coming out of Gaza? Why doesn't the BBC acknowledge that many of its sources are actually activists? The answer is simple: because this truth is uncomfortable. It would disrupt the cherished victim-aggressor narrative,where Israel is always the oppressor, and Palestinians are always the helpless victims.
The reality is this: Hamas is waging a double war: with rockets and with images. And in the second war, they've already won over half the world, because the media uncritically reproduces their perfectly staged visuals. Anyone who doesn't see that is blindly walking into a propaganda trap.

The new op is crying about Israel targeting a known Hamas operative, claiming that he's a "journalist," and therefore may belong to a terror organization and take part in terror operations with full immunity from consequences.

All "journalists" permitted in Gaza are Hamas. If they weren't, they'd ban them, or murder them.

Bit awkward for your Hamas hugging propaganda, don’t you think? https://t.co/6OX1Bc55HD pic.twitter.com/xAPshl7DfQ
— Chris Parry (@DrChrisParry) August 11, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 04:36 PM

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1 Hamas #@!!%$$

Posted by: Ann at August 13, 2025 04:36 PM (4neFu)

2 Hmmm my swearing at Hamas disappeared.

Posted by: Ann at August 13, 2025 04:37 PM (4neFu)

3 This is wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 13, 2025 04:37 PM (0N4FZ)

4 Oh now it's back! I called the others.

Posted by: Ann at August 13, 2025 04:37 PM (4neFu)

5 The new op is crying about Israel targeting a known Hamas operative, claiming that he's a "journalist," and therefore may belong to a terror organization and take part in terror operations with full immunity from consequences.

All "journalists" permitted in Gaza are Hamas. If they weren't, they'd ban them, or murder them.

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Wait...I can get away with murder if I call myself a journalist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

6 What.
The.
Actual.
Fuck?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:39 PM (zZu0s)

7 what can I say, the sooner Hamas is wiped off the face of the earth the better

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 04:40 PM (g47mK)

8 So
Many blind, deaf and dumb leftists.

It’s as if they like sticking their heads in the sand.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 13, 2025 04:40 PM (vK/Ja)

9 Just put on a dress and start making suggestions about the cuck chair you'd like to buy with your own money, Canada.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:40 PM (zZu0s)

10 Oh now it's back! I called the others.
Posted by: Ann

What did you call us?

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

11 Terroronto

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 13, 2025 04:41 PM (M0V4/)

12 Canadians and Hamassholes deserve each other as both are worthless four flushing sacks of dog shit.

Posted by: The Truth at August 13, 2025 04:42 PM (YpP4h)

13 Wait...I can get away with murder if I call myself a journalist?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

Antifa says "yes"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:42 PM (rbvCR)

14 What did you call us?
Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

To this brand new thread, of course!

Posted by: Ann at August 13, 2025 04:43 PM (4neFu)

15 Or Tehranto

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 13, 2025 04:43 PM (M0V4/)

16 13 Wait...I can get away with murder if I call myself a journalist?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

Antifa says "yes"
Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:42 PM (rbvCR)

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*uncomfortable*
-Andy Ngo

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:43 PM (GBKbO)

17 To this brand new thread, of course!
Posted by: Ann

Eh. I've been called worse.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:43 PM (77rzZ)

18 You could substitute "Islam" for "Hamas" in the post and not have to change a thing.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 13, 2025 04:43 PM (CHHv1)

19 This is similar to what happened in Cincy with the recent riots, in the fact that local media said they didn't have permission from the video takers, so they couldn't show the riot video footage they had.

You don't hate the media enough. There... I said it.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at August 13, 2025 04:43 PM (6qf1m)

20 Wouldn't want to violate their copyrighted snuff and rape footage
Canada

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2025 04:44 PM (YwEeS)

21 Can you imagine real Nazis suing over movies using war footage?

Well, now I can.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 13, 2025 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

22
OT: Not for nothing, but who among the 'Rons called "dibs!" on the newly liberated Ashley Biden?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 13, 2025 04:44 PM (Tv15w)

23 I haven't forgotten the Wash Post stringer who happened to be in the right place at the exact right time on 10/7 to cover the attack.

I, also, haven't forgotten the photo of him sitting on a crate holding a hand grenade with a shit eating grin on his face.

Posted by: Orson at August 13, 2025 04:45 PM (dIske)

24 FWIW, SOS Rubio is discussing labeling the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist org.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:45 PM (rbvCR)

25 Rubio confirmed that he is working to put the Muslim Brotherhood on the terrorist list. Hamas is Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2025 04:45 PM (viF8m)

26 Can you imagine real Nazis suing over movies using war footage?

Well, now I can.

I think Mein Kampf might still be under copyright.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

27 Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:45 PM (rbvCR)

dude

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (viF8m)

28 They filmed the massacre now you cant show it

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (bXbFr)

29 For nearly two years, Hamas has shown an utter disregard for human life. Now, its terror has expanded to include the Gazan people on a mass scale.
_____

Stop! Or we'll have to reward you even more!

Posted by: European Union at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (Dv3i1)

30 26 Can you imagine real Nazis suing over movies using war footage?

Well, now I can.

I think Mein Kampf might still be under copyright.
Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

Ok, that's darkly hilarious

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (xcxpd)

31 OT: Not for nothing, but who among the 'Rons called "dibs!" on the newly liberated Ashley Biden?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Eh. She's no DOCTOR Jill.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

32
I would think the Gazans would fit in better occupying Tehran rather than Somalia.

But maybe that Sunni / Shiite shit would get in the way.

Posted by: Auspex at August 13, 2025 04:47 PM (Y8DZL)

33 13 Wait...I can get away with murder if I call myself a journalist?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

Antifa says "yes"
Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:42 PM (rbvCR)

*notes for future reference*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 13, 2025 04:47 PM (xcxpd)

34 And of course the "western" media is aiding Hamas in its lies. Late last month, the NYT posted a front-page photo, provided by Hamas, to prove that children are starving.

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Zionist lies and propaganda! Jews own the media!

Posted by: Candace Owens at August 13, 2025 04:48 PM (g47mK)

35 @DNIGabbard

Newly declassified Top Secret emails sent on December 22, 2016 complying with President Obama's order to create the manufactured January 2017 ICA about Russia expose how DNI James Clapper demanded the IC fall in line behind the Russia Hoax. Clapper admits that it was a "team sport" that required "compromise on our 'normal modalities'".

Read for yourself below:

https://tinyurl.com/r2e9unm2

Posted by: Ann at August 13, 2025 04:48 PM (4neFu)

36 Nope, the copyright on Mein Kampft expired in 2015.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:48 PM (77rzZ)

37 "The real reason is that they're afraid of being blown up or machine-gunned"

Yup.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 04:48 PM (iBAge)

38
I think Mein Kampf might still be under copyright.
Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

could well be, Argentine law states the copyright lasts for the lifetime of the author, plus 70 years after the January 1 following his or her death

so we have until when, sometime in 2050?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:49 PM (rbvCR)

39 Shes another coked up brat like her brother (radar magazine had the footage)

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 13, 2025 04:49 PM (bXbFr)

40 I think Mein Kampf might still be under copyright.
Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

Held by Bavaria, but copyright expired in 2015. Now can be copied.

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 04:49 PM (g47mK)

41
Wasn't Rachel Corrie wearing a vest with the "PRESS" on its front and back when she auditioned for that job at IHOP?

Just asking.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 13, 2025 04:50 PM (Tv15w)

42 That is the original copyright. If somebody were to do a new translation of it into English, then that translation would get its own copyright.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:50 PM (77rzZ)

43 >>>they're afraid of being blown up or machine-gunned, just as all the media refrained from posting cartoons of Mohammad after the Charlie Hebdo massacre. (And the often-forgotten Hyper Market massacre of Jews that took place at the same time.)
-------

Wait, don't forget about me and Texas cops.
_Pam Geller

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 04:50 PM (PRU4V)

44 Well, here's hoping that "The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue" gets to streaming soon. I'd like to see it.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 04:50 PM (iBAge)

45 21 Can you imagine real Nazis suing over movies using war footage?

Well, now I can.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at August 13, 2025 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

As someone somewhere said, this is like not being able to use Judgement at Nuremberg or Night and Fog because it used Nazi footage without permission. For fucks sake. These people are getting so... audacious in the parading of evil. Wtf?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:50 PM (zZu0s)

46 This is like when the Menendez brothers plead mercy because they were orphans.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 13, 2025 04:51 PM (t0Rmr)

47 How can you have a copyright on a terrorist act??

Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2025 04:51 PM (q177U)

48 42 That is the original copyright. If somebody were to do a new translation of it into English, then that translation would get its own copyright.
Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:50 PM (77rzZ)

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I wonder how good AI is at translation.

Give it a pdf and have it spit out a complete translation in another language?

I mean, I imagine the art of a lot of the best translations will be completely absent, but the basics of an average one?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:51 PM (GBKbO)

49 39 Shes another coked up brat like her brother (radar magazine had the footage)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes
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Talk is cheap, links with pics are valid.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 04:52 PM (PRU4V)

50 Huh. Why not add commentary and claim transformative use?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:52 PM (zZu0s)

51 "The real reason is that they're afraid of being blown up or machine-gunned"

Yup.
Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 04:48 PM (iBAge

Agreed.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2025 04:52 PM (2WIwB)

52 How can you have a copyright on a terrorist act??
Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2025 04:51 PM (q177U)

This.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (zZu0s)

53 Hamas and the rest of them, like Islamic Jihad, PLO etc., would not be so successful if western governments would not aid and abet them.

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (g47mK)

54 >>Newly declassified Top Secret emails sent on December 22, 2016 complying with President Obama's order to create the manufactured January 2017 ICA about Russia expose how DNI James Clapper demanded the IC fall in line behind the Russia Hoax. Clapper admits that it was a "team sport" that required "compromise on our 'normal modalities'".

So we don't have 17 intel agencies, we have 1. And they reach a conclusion without bothering with details like evidence and facts.

I never want to hear a Democrat whine about our precious democracy or a peaceful transfer of power again.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (viF8m)

55 52 How can you have a copyright on a terrorist act??
Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2025 04:51 PM (q177U)

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I am really tired of people hating on Freddy Got Fingered like this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

56 Disgusting

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (wV2Qn)

57 Hey, hey
Ho, ho
All Islam's got to go.

Hey, hey
Ho, ho
All Islam's got to go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (PRU4V)

58 55 Ha!

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (iBAge)

59 I knew Canada sucked, but not to this extent.

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 04:54 PM (g47mK)

60 All the starving Gazans are fat.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 04:54 PM (PRU4V)

61 I am really tired of people hating on Freddy Got Fingered like this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (GBKbO)

Lol. What's another movie thats offensively bad (not like cult bad?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:54 PM (zZu0s)

62 Rubio has impressed me, more than I expected. He was always a neocon, but I suspect that no one asked why he was a neocon.

I think it was the best route he could find to either freeing Cuba, or ending the Castro regime.
Now he has other routes.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:55 PM (rbvCR)

63 61 Lol. What's another movie thats offensively bad (not like cult bad?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:54 PM (zZu0s)

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Salo: or 120 Days of Sodom

Pier Paolo Pasolini, the filmmaker, had a history of making beautiful looking films, but his final is intentionally ugly in every respect.

It's intentionally offensive. There are others.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

64 Wasn't Rachel Corrie wearing a vest with the "PRESS" on its front and back when she auditioned for that job at IHOP?

Just asking.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

She couldn't get more pressed.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (M0V4/)

65 There was some copyright issue regarding the song that Maj. Strasser and his men sang when they commandeered Sam's piano.

But, since a war was on, I think Warners just said "eff it" and used it anyway.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (77rzZ)

66 62 Rubio has impressed me, more than I expected. He was always a neocon, but I suspect that no one asked why he was a neocon.

I think it was the best route he could find to either freeing Cuba, or ending the Castro regime.
Now he has other routes.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:55 PM (rbvCR)

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I suspect he's completely amoral and obsessed with power and will say or do anything to advance it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

67 "Palestinian journalists" are the new "Afghan wedding parties".

Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (+b4rY)

68 "what can I say, the sooner Hamas is wiped off the face of the earth the better"

What's taking so long? I think it was Bibi 12 or 16 months ago said that the total destruction of Hamas is the goal.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 04:57 PM (iBAge)

69 Late last month, the NYT posted a front-page photo, provided by Hamas, to prove that children are starving.

Who do I go to for reliable info, the NYT or Hamas Ministry of Health???

Posted by: dantesed at August 13, 2025 04:57 PM (Oy/m2)

70 Lol. What's another movie thats offensively bad (not like cult bad?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:54 PM (zZu0s)

Ice Cube's war of the worlds

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 04:57 PM (MGB5H)

71 Does the German government have copyright claims on WW2 concentration camp pictures?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 13, 2025 04:57 PM (63Dwl)

72 We all need to chill out people.

I did the most relaxing thing I’ve ever done today. Cow cuddling therapy in the rainforest in Hawaii.

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1955525533212749864

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 13, 2025 04:58 PM (/U5Yz)

73 I suspect he's completely amoral and obsessed with power and will say or do anything to advance it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

If you take out "power" and put in "respect" I will agree with you.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:58 PM (rbvCR)

74 71 Does the German government have copyright claims on WW2 concentration camp pictures?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 13, 2025 04:57 PM (63Dwl)

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Technically, I believe the US Army would, but I don't think the US government is allowed copyright.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:58 PM (GBKbO)

75 "What's another movie thats offensively bad"

"Lord Love a Duck" (1966) is offensively bad, although it has its apologists.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 04:58 PM (iBAge)

76 Does German Military have copyright when they invaded Poland?

Posted by: dantesed at August 13, 2025 04:59 PM (Oy/m2)

77 ======

I wonder how good AI is at translation.

Give it a pdf and have it spit out a complete translation in another language?

I mean, I imagine the art of a lot of the best translations will be completely absent, but the basics of an average one?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer a
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Simple Google translate is probably better.
I don't think it reaches into surface world bullshit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 04:59 PM (PRU4V)

78 Bet Hamas gets a "Best Documentary" at some film fest this year. Maybe here in the US.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 13, 2025 04:59 PM (Q4IgG)

79 What's taking so long? I think it was Bibi 12 or 16 months ago said that the total destruction of Hamas is the goal.
Posted by: Static In gp's Attic a

There you go with that genocide talk again.

Posted by: Tucker at August 13, 2025 04:59 PM (/U5Yz)

80 Clapper admits that it was a "team sport" that required "compromise on our 'normal modalities'".

Not even close you muthafu*ka! You compromised your " modalities?". WTF??? You compromised your honor, your integrity, and the uniform you wore before retiring. You also crapped on the thousands of honest people working their asses off every day throughout the IC trying to create an accurate assessment for decision-makers. Fu*k you you corrupt rotten bastard.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2025 04:59 PM (2WIwB)

81 This reminds me of Tommy Robinson and the grooming stories.

The truth was so obvious, but the media covered it up for years and were very effective at inverting the narrative.

So why? How do they manage to keep the lie alive for so long?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 05:00 PM (puHQS)

82 73 I suspect he's completely amoral and obsessed with power and will say or do anything to advance it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)

If you take out "power" and put in "respect" I will agree with you.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:58 PM (rbvCR)

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No, I think it's power.

He bent over for Schumer and McConnell, trying to advance their agenda, early in his career. Now, he's bending over for Trump and his agenda to advance his career.

He's turning into a very good SoS, but I'd only ever use him in a lower position of power rather than the top dog. He'll follow orders as long as the carrot is in front of him. Once he gets the carrot, who knows what the fuck this guy will do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:00 PM (GBKbO)

83 Clapper, honor and integrity?

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:00 PM (MGB5H)

84 Bet Hamas gets a "Best Documentary" at some film fest this year. Maybe here in the US.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 13, 2025 04:59 PM (Q4IgG)

You can bet there will be a "representative" at the Oscars who will get a standing O.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2025 05:01 PM (2WIwB)

85 "What's another movie thats offensively bad"

"Doctor Detroit" (1983) I saw it on the first run, and the audience reaction was not only disappointment, but vocal anger. It's so very bad.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:01 PM (iBAge)

86 Do the Romans have copyright when took down the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD?

Posted by: dantesed at August 13, 2025 05:01 PM (Oy/m2)

87 Doesn't a copyright have to be applied for and approved?

Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (i0F8b)

88 All this copyright talk is gonna fire TJM up.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (MGB5H)

89 Candace Ovens can still fingerbang herself to the footage, though, right?

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (z6okN)

90 I wonder how good AI is at translation.

Give it a pdf and have it spit out a complete translation in another language?

I mean, I imagine the art of a lot of the best translations will be completely absent, but the basics of an average one?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer a

Deepl.com is probably the best. In translations from Spanish and Portuguese it is really good, only having issues with regionalisms and "turns of phrase" that are unique. I am told that their translations into German is stilted and makes everything translate to a sort of "governmentalese" which apparently is a thing in German dialects.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (rbvCR)

91 You know who did a lot to push enforcement of copyright laws? Charles Dickens.

People were doing bootleg stage adaptations of Oliver Twist before the complete novel was ever published, I think.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (77rzZ)

92 It's intentionally offensive. There are others.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:55 PM (GBKbO)

See, I was going to stay away from that or The Serbian film because both are like magical cries for attention that I do not want to satisfy. Ice Cube's WotW I am betting is going to be cult bad.

Oh, Ring of Power is an easy one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (zZu0s)

93 Candace Ovens can still fingerbang herself to the footage, though, right?
Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM

While Tucker "just asks questions" from the cuck chair.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (MGB5H)

94 Rubio's wife is hot.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (/U5Yz)

95 Did you movie guys see Skydance stock today? +37% or so.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (iBAge)

96 87 Doesn't a copyright have to be applied for and approved?
Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (i0F8b)

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Not anymore. It's largely just assumed and the Copyright Office will back up the claimed originator of material on disputes.

It's largely policed, though, by corporations.

The copyright regime is...fucked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (GBKbO)

97 The journalists have always been supportive of America's enemies and they've consistently been in favor of the most brutal regimes on the planet.

They even win pulitizer's for it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 13, 2025 05:04 PM (77W69)

98 Candace Ovens can still fingerbang herself to the footage, though, right?
Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (z6okN)

Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:04 PM (zZu0s)

99 NBCUniversal has re-acquired the rights to Bourne from the Ludlum estate.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:05 PM (MGB5H)

100 An excerpt from the Eve Barlow Substack (called Blacklisted) today including contact info for the TIFF:
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Hamas doesn’t own the copyright of this footage. It is public footage. This is disturbing on so many levels, mainly because it means creating a new standard purely for the purpose of erasing the stories of victims and survivors of the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust. Can’t prove it happened because the perpetrators of those attacks are not waivering the rights to the intellectual property of the murders and the rapes.

You can message the TIFF Customer Relations at customerrelations@tiff.net or call them 1-888-258-8433.

Posted by: beckster at August 13, 2025 05:05 PM (NLtte)

101 >>>If you take out "power" and put in "respect" I will agree with you.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 04:58 PM (rbvCR)

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No, I think it's power.
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Rubio is weak, he interprets power as respect.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 05:05 PM (PRU4V)

102 Rachel Corrie stuck her head in the sand. Then it and the rest of stayed there

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 13, 2025 05:05 PM (0EwKT)

103 92 See, I was going to stay away from that or The Serbian film because both are like magical cries for attention that I do not want to satisfy. Ice Cube's WotW I am betting is going to be cult bad.

Oh, Ring of Power is an easy one.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:03 PM (zZu0s)

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Salo is polemic about how fascists are monsters.

It says absolutely nothing else, and it provides no other reason to watch the film from a storytelling perspective.

It's a work of anger and nothing else. It's not worthy of discovery, but that it has become something celebrated in film circles because it's often targeted for censorship is unfortunate. It's shit. It's intentionally shit. The defense of it, though, has convinced people that it's actually good somehow. It's not, and it's not intended to be good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:05 PM (GBKbO)

104 Don't mess with a wild elephant, they'll remove your pants then step on you for good measure.

Link to X -
https://tinyurl.com/3w8za5wc

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (Dv3i1)

105 "Midnight Cowboy" is supposed to be some great Dustin Hoffman movie. I found it offensively bad.

Same for Easy Rider.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (uWKK8)

106 Our copyrights are legendary.

Posted by: Disney at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (M0V4/)

107 Doesn't a copyright have to be applied for and approved?
Posted by: davidt

My understanding (as a paralegal who took a course in IP law), is that you have copyright on something as soon as you create it. The purpose of registering the copyright is so that you can effectively enforce it later in court. But the registration does not create the copyright, the creation of the work itself does that.

I'll let any IP lawyers here to correct me on this if I am incorrect.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (77rzZ)

108 99 The Bourne Reacquisition, a typical Ludlum title.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (iBAge)

109 99 NBCUniversal has re-acquired the rights to Bourne from the Ludlum estate.
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[Sigh] . . . hasn't enough damage been done? The last remotely faithful adaptation of Bourne was a TV movie starring Richard Chamberlain in the late 1980s.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 05:07 PM (+b4rY)

110 tjm, you really don't need a full AI for translations, mostly you just need gobs of text to build relationships with, and tokenize. LLMs are built around the basis of translation, not word for word, but by concept by concept. Tokenization approximates that far better than the old "dictionary" style programs

At least in my opinion. Specialists in the field disagree with me.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 13, 2025 05:07 PM (rbvCR)

111 What about trademarks? How are they different from copyright ?

Posted by: dantesed at August 13, 2025 05:07 PM (Oy/m2)

112 105 "Midnight Cowboy" is supposed to be some great Dustin Hoffman movie. I found it offensively bad.

Same for Easy Rider.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (uWKK

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Midnight Cowboy is mostly interesting as an artifact in time, an independent movie in the period of the studio system's collapse that unflatteringly documents New York as it was in its worst spots in the late 60s.

Easy Rider is similar but more about the rise of counterculture in the middle of the studio system (with direct Corman connections, which are interesting).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:07 PM (GBKbO)

113 Simple Google translate is probably better.
I don't think it reaches into surface world bullshit.
Posted by: Braenyard

Google translate is AI, and has been for years. It is the same technology (kind of.) This is where the AI was developed.

Maybe 5 or so years ago Google switched from word translations to ...well I guess we would call it vibe translating now. It looks at the whole sentence and context and then just makes shit up. This works great for some text but is horrible for anything important.

It greatly depends on the language too. I know for Japanese I can go back and forth with google changing one insignificant word and getting completely different meaning out of it.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 05:08 PM (puHQS)

114 Yeah, Easy Rider aged terribly. Ugh.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:08 PM (iBAge)

115 Tell the Hamas rep to come in person to prove ownership, then have Mossad shoot whoever shows up.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (8avO+)

116 Ok, so I'm through an absolutely nightmarish TSA experience in O'Hare, and my flight appears to be on time. I'm going back to G-d's country in Appalachia.

I know that Brandon Johnson isn't materially different than Lori Lightfoot, but at least his voice is better. The airport "Welcome to Chicago" announcements don't sound like an aggressive lecture from a Deep One of Innsmouth anymore.

Also, I liked Doctor Detroit. Sue me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (S9TDn)

117 So that's not the real reason. The real reason is that they're afraid of being blown up or machine-gunned, just as all the media refrained from posting cartoons of Mohammad after the Charlie Hebdo massacre. (And the often-forgotten Hyper Market massacre of Jews that took place at the same time.)

No. That's not the real reason either, honestly.

The real reason is that to acknowledge that Gazans came across the border and mass-murdered everything they could would require people to admit that their assumptions are wrong.

People simply do not see what they wish not to see. For example, and these this is not equal to the Gazan thing, but its very instructive about human nature and how very few people are objective.

How long did we argue here about "Back the Blue" and "Whatever it takes for that officer to get home safe" ? A long time. Why did it take so long ? Because most people, once they invest in something emotionally and intellectually (and that's how most people live ) they don't write that investment off quickly or easily.

The people you are talking about have convinced themselves that they'll never be harmed. That's the point that's missed so often here.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (x/tSg)

118 We intentionally made Rings of Power bad in response to the rise of fascism under Trump. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: Rings of Power Show Runners at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (Dv3i1)

119 Easy Rider is almost as bad as The Godfather.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (z6okN)

120 And yet, people still b!tch about Isreal finishing the job.

Glass the place and be done with it.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (JkCto)

121 118 We intentionally made Rings of Power bad in response to the rise of fascism under Trump. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: Rings of Power Show Runners at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (Dv3i1)

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Season 3 started filming last week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (GBKbO)

122
Bet Hamas gets a "Best Documentary" at some film fest this year. Maybe here in the US.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Academy Award. Count on it.

"Bold and brave!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 13, 2025 05:10 PM (Tv15w)

123 He does look alien more like the roach from mib

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 13, 2025 05:10 PM (bXbFr)

124 Good article, except the 60k death figure is bullshit and nobody’s starving. Every single pic of one of these goatfuckers shows at least average weight, and some are fat. They are all eating well.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at August 13, 2025 05:11 PM (mPBuU)

125 >>Season 3 started filming last week.

I am looking forward to Meme Copium getting back on his 'Rangs of Power' series.

I laughed so fucking hard at those.

'Pew! Pew, Pew!'

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:11 PM (z6okN)

126 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:05 PM (GBKbO)

See i find it hard to see the argument against that film as any different from any other shock schlock. When the only point is to be offensive, like Serbian film or even human centipede.

Or... what was the name of that one. Suicide club or something. About Japanese School girls committing suicide.

Also that cannibal hell/nightmare whatever film.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:11 PM (zZu0s)

127 The Jews can document--with indisputable archeological evidence--that they lived in Israel much farther back than any American Indian tribe can document how long they lived and where.

By a thousand years or more.

Not one American Indian tribe can document more than 500 years back.
Maybe the Navaho and that's it.
The rest have "legends" and "myths."
But no evidence.

How come the left never talks about all the Arabs in and around Israel being on "stolen land?"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 13, 2025 05:11 PM (Xoc7P)

128 Two prongs of evil: communism and islam

Posted by: Accomack at August 13, 2025 05:12 PM (3U9lo)

129 You know what I think is a great independent movie that documented NYC in the 70's? Superfly.
That may sound like a joke, but I saw it again recently and it is actually a very good movie, well plotted with a well thought out and well cast central character.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK8)

130 Clapper admits that it was a "team sport" that required "compromise on our 'normal modalities'".

Read for yourself below:

https://tinyurl.com/r2e9unm2
Posted by: Ann

B.S.

Signed

Susan Rice memo

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 13, 2025 05:12 PM (JkCto)

131 Yes david webb was not trucksd imro becoming bourne he did it out grief and legitimate rage

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 13, 2025 05:12 PM (bXbFr)

132 Easy Rider is almost as bad as The Godfather.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (z6okN)

not The Godfather fan ?

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 05:12 PM (g47mK)

133 99 NBCUniversal has re-acquired the rights to Bourne from the Ludlum estate.
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[Sigh] . . . hasn't enough damage been done? The last remotely faithful adaptation of Bourne was a TV movie starring Richard Chamberlain in the late 1980s.
Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 05:07 PM (+b4rY)

I'm sure that name will make them 1 billion in china after they make him into a black female.

Jeez. You could just steal action movie plots from any of them from the last 50 years and change some names around.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)

134 Easy Rider is a really bad movie. It also has that weird editing that was all the rage at the time. Other movies (some just as bad like "Beach Red", some better like "Charley") are blighted with bizarre editing as well.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (+b4rY)

135 126 See i find it hard to see the argument against that film as any different from any other shock schlock. When the only point is to be offensive, like Serbian film or even human centipede.

Or... what was the name of that one. Suicide club or something. About Japanese School girls committing suicide.

Also that cannibal hell/nightmare whatever film.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:11 PM (zZu0s)

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It's really all Salo is. Shock schlock.

It's just that Pasolini had roots in Italian neorealism (er...not really, but close enough) and was widely respected by the film community in general before he made it.

That Pasolini made it is the only reason anyone respects it. And they shouldn't. Great filmmakers can make terrible films.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (GBKbO)

136
He'll follow orders as long as the carrot is in front of him. Once he gets the carrot, who knows what the fuck this guy will do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He'll put it in his chili.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (63Dwl)

137 >>>Dramatically higher Gazan casualties now loom. Starvation's specter stretches over Gaza as Hamas is accused of stealing aid to the civilian population to resell on the black market.

Oh, how terrible. If only I gave a single flying fuck about anyone in Gaza.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (lHPJf)

138 Candace Ovens can still fingerbang herself to the footage, though, right?
Posted by: garrett

Heh. She's selling merch to help fund her legal defense against the Macrons. It's been estimated that it will cost $5 million to defend her in court. At $30 a pop, she'll have to sell a shitload of t-shirts.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (M0V4/)

139 136
He'll follow orders as long as the carrot is in front of him. Once he gets the carrot, who knows what the fuck this guy will do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

He'll put it in his chili.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (63Dwl)

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Just like a *member of group I don't like* would do.

I knew it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (GBKbO)

140 Clapper admits that it was a "team sport" that required "compromise on our 'normal modalities'".

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All my modalities are paid for by generous donors from across the world !

Posted by: Nigerian Prince at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (g47mK)

141 137 >>>Dramatically higher Gazan casualties now loom. Starvation's specter stretches over Gaza as Hamas is accused of stealing aid to the civilian population to resell on the black market.

Oh, how terrible. If only I gave a single flying fuck about anyone in Gaza.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (lHPJf)

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Should probably give up the hostages.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (GBKbO)

142 "Doesn't a copyright have to be applied for and approved?"

In this country, that changed on January 1, 1978 with the Copyright Act of 1976. Upon fixation, a copyright is presumptively created.

Also, in copyright, there is the idea of "fair use." Someone else owns the copyright, but you are allowed to use it within limitations. Here, it would seem that the newsworthiness of the clips should allow fair use.

But hey - aren't we talking about Canuckastan? Who knows what their copyright laws are like?

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (v/YwY)

143 >>Not one American Indian tribe can document more than 500 years back.

I forget the tribe that lived in the Phoenix area...
starts with a P, but not Pima...Po-something

I believe they go back over 1k.
But, that's as far as I know of a single new world tribe.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (z6okN)

144 "Also that cannibal hell/nightmare whatever film."

"Cannibal Holocaust" (1980) Animal torture. All characters are amoral monsters.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (iBAge)

145 He'll put it in his chili.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (63Dwl)

Rubio is probably more of a pazole guy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:15 PM (MGB5H)

146 Our media are no better than Hamas, the tactics are the same and the ends are the same. May they both be a footnote in history.

Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:15 PM (unUNN)

147 What about trademarks? How are they different from copyright ?
Posted by: dantesed

For the most part, trademarks exist to protect consumers, so that they don't get brands mixed up. Also, so that one company can't bogart another one's name, logo, etc., thereby harming both other businesses and consumers.

Copyright exists to protect those who produce the various works, to encourage them to produce by preventing a copycat from appropriating their income stream.

Again, I will defer to any IP lawyers amongst the Horde.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 05:15 PM (77rzZ)

148 Great filmmakers can make terrible films.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (GBKbO)

I can think of a couple directors who have made really bad movies.

Posted by: dantesed at August 13, 2025 05:15 PM (Oy/m2)

149 >>Candace Ovens can still fingerbang herself to the footage, though, right?
Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:02 PM (z6okN)

I thought she made a great pairing with noted anti Christian bigot, Ben Shapiro. It was actually an interesting dichotomy. On one hand we had “kill the Jews” and on the other, “kill all the Christian’s, and btw Jesus was nothing but a troublemaker killed by the Romans and the Jews had no role in it”. It’s a match made in hell.

Posted by: That Fact Guy at August 13, 2025 05:15 PM (Dzvaz)

150 Season 3 started filming last week.
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They might get more viewers if they did advertise the season as an examination of the intersectionality between Tolkien's mythology and the rise of fascism in the West. Watching would be an act of resistance against Trump, which would attract gullible viewers of which there are many, unfortunately.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:16 PM (Dv3i1)

151 Come on guys Hamas isn’t so bad.
- Tucker

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 13, 2025 05:16 PM (zBBwI)

152 I suspect he's completely amoral and obsessed with power and will say or do anything to advance it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 04:56 PM (GBKbO)
___________________________

Yeah, I get that impression as well. Opportunist. No one who sat on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence gets a pass regardless of what redemption they seek.

My understanding is that Rubio is now saber rattling at Venezuela.

Posted by: Orson at August 13, 2025 05:16 PM (dIske)

153 Good article, except the 60k death figure is bullshit and nobody’s starving. Every single pic of one of these goatfuckers shows at least average weight, and some are fat. They are all eating well.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at August 13, 2025 05:11 PM (mPBuU)

Even Hamas admits that their death figures are bullshit. Someone did a survey and found that the ratio between men and women deaths skews heavily male in all age groups aside from infants and small kids. Looks like they salt them with Hamas fighters. And consider this - Hamas as shelters from air attack, and the civilians do not.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:16 PM (8avO+)

154 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at August 13, 2025 05:13 PM (GBKbO)

See, that is another thing that I have found harder to countenance as I have gotten older: giving directors or filmmakers credit and rope. Ridley Scott is a good example. Love alien and blade runner, he still gets no credit now even with Black Hawk down because of all the other shit.

Hell, look at James Cameron.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:17 PM (zZu0s)

155 This is why I don't think Israeli criticism is something I would do at this time even if it is legitimate . Same reason I tried to avoid criticism of Trump 1.0 once he was elected. During war I'm an all in until the war is over. The only criticism I find appropriate is against anything that hurts the war effort.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:17 PM (VofaG)

156 Well Hordemates.
I just checked the weather and we of the Horde who live in the NW may be gone come Friday. What had been a prediction of rain on Friday has now become a prediction of a Category III Atmospheric River!!!
It is apparently the same rain coming in, but with a real click bait name now. And no shit, some people are freaking out.
Gawd! The stupidity.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2025 05:17 PM (2WIwB)

157 Screams before Silence is the documentary film that shows the sexual violence hamas used on Oct 7th.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 13, 2025 05:18 PM (dxWFK)

158 Candace Ovens can still fingerbang herself to the footage, though, right?

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That and various shorts of pegging my cuck husband to Candy O will make me millions !

Posted by: Candace Owens at August 13, 2025 05:18 PM (g47mK)

159 106 Our copyrights are legendary.

Posted by: Disney at August 13, 2025 05:06 PM (M0V4/)

Amazingly so. Somewhere between 95 and 120 years.

Wikipedia:
Copyright Act of 1790 – established U.S. copyright with term of 14 years with 14-year renewal

Copyright Act of 1831 – extended the term to 28 years with 14-year renewal

Copyright Act of 1909 – extended term to 28 years with 28-year renewal

Copyright Act of 1976 – extended term to either 75 years or the life of the author plus 50 years

the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 (AKA, "Mickey Mouse Protection Act")– to 95 years after publication (120 years after creation for unpublished works), or the life of the author plus 70 years, whichever ends earlier.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 13, 2025 05:18 PM (ynpvh)

160 I believe they go back over 1k.
But, that's as far as I know of a single new world tribe.
Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:14 PM (z6okN)

Nice trick without writing. Even with writing most information from that far back is bullshit, even in Europe.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:19 PM (8avO+)

161
I would be impressed if Israel insisted that "Palestinians" began their gatherings with a "land acknowledgement" statement that cited the Jewish people as the original inhabitants of Samaria, Judea, and whatever other territorial appurtenances comprised the Jews' original homeland in the area.

The times demand it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 13, 2025 05:19 PM (Tv15w)

162 Goes to show they are proud of what they did

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2025 05:19 PM (+qU29)

163 63 61 Lol. What's another movie thats offensively bad (not like cult bad?)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 04:54 PM (zZu0s)

Back in 1972 my high school sociology class had to attend Dalton Trumbo's "Johnny Got His Gun".

I've endured a lot of bad cinema but that one really sucked.

Posted by: Auspex at August 13, 2025 05:19 PM (Y8DZL)

164 The real reason is that to acknowledge that Gazans came across the border and mass-murdered everything they could would require people to admit that their assumptions are wrong.
......

The people you are talking about have convinced themselves that they'll never be harmed. That's the point that's missed so often here.
Posted by: That's Not Rain

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I think this is partially true, but most of these people are just following the "experts" and the "experts" are following the Marcuseian victim-oppressor logic that always says that the weak are morally superior. This is the Left's fixation. It has been drilled into every corner of their thought, and academia, and media.

In their minds, the Palis were justified to do what they did (rape and murder) because the Jews pushed them to such an extreme (by existing on land they want to steal.) You see, it is self reinforcing that the worse a weak person acts, the more morally justified they are.
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The one thing that cures people of this is when they are affected personally. When they are raped they often realize that the "weak" rapist is actually evil.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 05:20 PM (puHQS)

165 Unfortunately it’s working.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 13, 2025 05:20 PM (zBBwI)

166 My understanding is that Rubio is now saber rattling at Venezuela.
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A tweet says the US just froze or confiscated $700 million of Maduro's assets. That's gotta sting, even if you're Maduro.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (paSBy)

167 Hamas and the rest of them, like Islamic Jihad, PLO etc., would not be so successful if western governments would not aid and abet them.
Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (g47mK)

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So much for Five Eyes, all of them are now on Hamas side.

Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (unUNN)

168 Easy Rider made chopping Harley's popular. That alone makes it a shitty movie.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (VofaG)

169 The one Pasolini movie I couldn't finish was the 'tralalala' one. I forget the title.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (iBAge)

170 Well Hordemates.
I just checked the weather and we of the Horde who live in the NW may be gone come Friday. What had been a prediction of rain on Friday has now become a prediction of a Category III Atmospheric River!!!
It is apparently the same rain coming in, but with a real click bait name now. And no shit, some people are freaking out.
Gawd! The stupidity.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2025 05:17 PM (2WIwB)

And I used to rail about Wind Chill and the Heat Chill factors.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (8avO+)

171 Back in 1972 my high school sociology class had to attend Dalton Trumbo's "Johnny Got His Gun".

yeah it's really not good

personally I don't like The Pianist, Inception, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Irishman ... lol I don't like a lot of supposedly good films I guess. I could keep going. hot takes from me, shocker.

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

172 I know Owens hates Shapiro, but she shouldn't. That little bastard is more effective at ginning up Jew-haters than she'll ever be. He's just insufferable. 30 seconds of watching him makes me want to gas myself.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2025 05:22 PM (S9TDn)

173 Hamas and the rest of them, like Islamic Jihad, PLO etc., would not be so successful if western governments would not aid and abet them.
Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (g47mK)

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So much for Five Eyes, all of them are now on Hamas side.
Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (unUNN)

Another burden for them to carry. Lol.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:22 PM (8avO+)

174 So much for Five Eyes, all of them are now on Hamas side.
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Maybe only Four Eyes these days?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:22 PM (Dv3i1)

175 >>Nice trick without writing. Even with writing most information from that far back is bullshit, even in Europe.

Again, going purely by memory of something I was forced to learn...there is archaeological evidence that supports this.

Did they have a written language? No.
But they did still exist as a continuous tribe from that far back.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:22 PM (z6okN)

176 The Dinah Project is another source for documentation of the depravity hamas employed on Oct 7th.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 13, 2025 05:22 PM (dxWFK)

177 America's hat, Canada, is on fire, best to take it off and throw it away as far north so the polar bears can deal with them.

Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:22 PM (unUNN)

178 Back in 1972 my high school sociology class had to attend Dalton Trumbo's "Johnny Got His Gun".

I've endured a lot of bad cinema but that one really sucked.

Posted by: Auspex at August 13, 2025 05:19 PM (Y8DZL)

The movie Trumbo probably sucked just as bad. I say probably because I didn't watch it and never will.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:23 PM (VofaG)

179 I don't want to see the Hamas movie. I hear it lacks the spirit of whimsy of Schindlers List

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 13, 2025 05:24 PM (wBaIH)

180 I'd still disregard Rule #1 with respect to Candace Owens.

Posted by: Bulg at August 13, 2025 05:24 PM (77rzZ)

181 So we don't have 17 intel agencies, we have 1. And they reach a conclusion without bothering with details like evidence and facts.

I never want to hear a Democrat whine about our precious democracy or a peaceful transfer of power again.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2025 04:53 PM (viF8m)

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Depends who is in power. If it's Democrats then it's just one, if it's Republicans then they are all independent and working against the people in their own ways.

Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:24 PM (unUNN)

182
Canada has gone full blown simp.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 13, 2025 05:24 PM (Tv15w)

183 I think this is partially true, but most of these people are just following the "experts" and the "experts" are following the Marcuseian victim-oppressor logic that always says that the weak are morally superior. This is the Left's fixation. It has been drilled into every corner of their thought, and academia, and media.

I couldn't tell you who this Marcuse guy is. But I know this - in any school, in any bar, the guy that wins the fight is always guilty. Doesn't matter who started it.

So yeah, you are right. But you're also wrong. Its not just a fixation on the Left. Its a fixation of most people.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:24 PM (x/tSg)

184 172 Ha!

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:25 PM (iBAge)

185 personally I don't like The Pianist, Inception, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Irishman ... lol I don't like a lot of supposedly good films I guess. I could keep going. hot takes from me, shocker.
Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

I’ve never seen The Pianist.

The Irishman blows. The rest are great.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 13, 2025 05:25 PM (zBBwI)

186 Well Hordemates.
I just checked the weather and we of the Horde who live in the NW may be gone come Friday. What had been a prediction of rain on Friday has now become a prediction of a Category III Atmospheric River!!!
It is apparently the same rain coming in, but with a real click bait name now. And no shit, some people are freaking out.
Gawd! The stupidity.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2025 05:17 PM (2WIwB)

Time to haul a jonboat up to the roof and tie it off to the chimney. Your neighbors will understand.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 13, 2025 05:25 PM (wVcYX)

187 "Oh my GOD, That's JASON BOURNE!!!"

Posted by: Max Power at August 13, 2025 05:25 PM (q177U)

188 "Canada has gone full blown simp."

Mark Steyn: "You're only just now discovering that?"

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:26 PM (iBAge)

189 What had been a prediction of rain on Friday has now become a prediction of a Category III Atmospheric River!!!
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Whatever happened to DERECHO's? They were hot for a while, then they just disappeared.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2025 05:26 PM (paSBy)

190 This is genuinely obscene.

Posted by: I know it when I see it at August 13, 2025 05:27 PM (TbWk/)

191
What the world needs is more Pianist

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at August 13, 2025 05:27 PM (Tv15w)

192 I love the "Irishman." I've seen it nine times prolly.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:27 PM (iBAge)

193 OT: Not for nothing, but who among the 'Rons called "dibs!" on the newly liberated Ashley Biden?

Living in the spare bedroom and ignored by my wife for the last 3 years; that said, I wouldn't 'relate' to Ashley if you threatened me at gunpoint.

Posted by: Nelly at August 13, 2025 05:27 PM (cHLus)

194 From the previous Thread:

Well they didn't say "Democrat rioting" but is there any other kind?

Must I remind you of January 6th yet and yet again?

Posted by: Nancy P. (D-CA) at August 13, 2025 05:27 PM (0sNs1)

195 personally I don't like The Pianist, Inception, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Irishman ... lol I don't like a lot of supposedly good films I guess. I could keep going. hot takes from me, shocker.
Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:21 PM (Pv3Rg

Don't like any of them or at least I find them Meh.

I will say though the Ranch scene in OUATIH was a really well made suspense scene. In my top 10 all time scenes. The rest of the movie. Meh.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:27 PM (VofaG)

196 >>I’ve never seen The Pianist.

It sucks.

Unless you are dying to see Girard Depardoo hang brain...like Ace is.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (z6okN)

197 And what of all the Leftists who think Israel made it all up?

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (+qU29)

198 I never saw The English Patient. Or Rochelle, Rochelle.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (wVcYX)

199 Woman shop owner fights off robber. It's in Italy, so perhaps the caribinieri won't arrest her, unlike in England.

Link to X -

https://tinyurl.com/3j57sd6n

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (Dv3i1)

200 The one thing that cures people of this is when they are affected personally. When they are raped they often realize that the "weak" rapist is actually evil.

Nope. Absolutely not. That's one of the tropes still told here that is factually false. We'd like to think a Liberal is simply a Conservative not yet mugged.

Yet every time we see one of these cases, in a Liberal enclave ? The parents solemnly bury the child while defending the circumstances.

No. We can't simply step back and let them suffer so they'll learn. They've got this far PRECISELY because they refuse to learn.

We step back - if we're smart - because we simply shouldn't care what happens when a mongrel dog attacks another mongrel dog.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (x/tSg)

201 I enjoyed the first Bourne movie a lot. I would like the second more if not for the fucking shakey cam. Thank God that fad is long gone.

Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (i0F8b)

202 I don't think I ever saw Titanic (the movie) in its entirety.

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 05:29 PM (g47mK)

203 I'm pretty sure the popularity and accolades of "The Pianist" had less to do with the movie, and more to do with attempting to get a reprieve on Roman Polanski.

Posted by: Orson at August 13, 2025 05:29 PM (dIske)

204 201 I enjoyed the first Bourne movie a lot. I would like the second more if not for the fucking shakey cam. Thank God that fad is long gone.
Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:28 PM (i0F8b)

Another bad casting job if you read the books.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:30 PM (VofaG)

205 >>I don't think I ever saw Titanic

Confirmation of one's Heterosexuality, that is.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:30 PM (z6okN)

206 Its a fixation of most people.
Posted by: That's Not Rain

Good point.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 05:30 PM (puHQS)

207 I can count the number of movies I have not gotten through on less than one hand. Even if it's bad I'll get through it. I like movies. Death of a Unicorn was one that I shut off. And I like weird shit.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:30 PM (MGB5H)

208 I didn't like The Hateful Eight, or any Tarantino movie for that matter. I think he is trying to make humor out of the violence, but I just don't get it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:31 PM (Dv3i1)

209
Hey, you can't use any that concentration camp footage.

Posted by: Hitler at August 13, 2025 05:31 PM (IifOV)

210 I've never seen a movie with Meryl Streep in it's entirety.

Strange.

Posted by: dantesed at August 13, 2025 05:31 PM (Oy/m2)

211 my mom loved the irishman
but she actually knew those people so I guess more interesting for her

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:32 PM (Pv3Rg)

212 *places on the bar a miniature piano and a 12-inch piano player*

Don't ask.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 13, 2025 05:32 PM (wVcYX)

213 The third Jurassic Park movie was awful. William h Macy and Tea Leoni. Sam Neil collected a check. I rooted for the dinosaurs to eat them all, slowly

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 13, 2025 05:32 PM (0EwKT)

214 Hey, you can't use any that concentration camp footage.

I wouldn't exactly cover the Eisenhower administration with glory ... but as a man ? He understood people.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (x/tSg)

215 202 I don't think I ever saw Titanic (the movie) in its entirety.
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There is a good 40 minutes where the dialogue is just "Rose!" and "Jack!" repeated multiple times.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (Dv3i1)

216 titanic is just silly

thanks for the warning on Death of a Unicorn not that I planned on bothering with it

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (Pv3Rg)

217 Nope. Absolutely not. That's one of the tropes still told here that is factually false.
Posted by: That's Not Rain

I said "often" not always.

I understand that it is not an absolute, but your sample is not representative. There are also many cases of people panicking because they are starting to suffer the consequences of thing they supported thinking they were immune.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (puHQS)

218 Feh, nobody actually gives a damn about Palestinians.

They want to run the liberal movement and the Democrat Party. To get that accomplished, they have to make life intolerable for all the elderly Jews who run those two things.

Attack Israel viciously enough, and the elderly Jew liberals will quit their jobs at Harvard and in the Democrat party and just retire.

The young leftists will take their jobs anyway, but the elderly liberal Jews aren't dying fast enough naturally so they have to be made to retire.

It's just a power struggle over money and status, that's all.

Feh.

Posted by: Common Sense at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (9zN3X)

219 That and various shorts of pegging my cuck husband to Candy O will make me millions !
Posted by: Candace Owens at August 13, 2025 05:18 PM (g47mK

Very meta.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (zZu0s)

220 210 I've never seen a movie with Meryl Streep in it's entirety.

Strange.
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Same here, now that you mention it. I wasn't even trying to actively avoid her either.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (+b4rY)

221 I'm sorry. I like the Pianist. I was thinking The Piano.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (VofaG)

222 202 I don't think I ever saw Titanic (the movie) in its entirety.
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I deliberately, actively avoid certain movies. Titanic was one of those for me.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (paSBy)

223 Every criminal is a Democrat
Not all Democrats are criminals

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 13, 2025 05:33 PM (PRU4V)

224 This is how far gone the West is protecting the "IP rights" of mass murderers while silencing the truth of their crimes and their victims.

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The vicious ideas & beliefs of the Nihilism-Marxism-Islamicism Death Cults Axis have vicious consequences.

What little remains of Western Civilization is on fumes ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Stop All The #WINNING ... I Gotta Get Off! at August 13, 2025 05:34 PM (po08h)

225 I was thinking The Piano

oh yeah that also sucks

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Pv3Rg)

226 "She Freak" (1967) is quite bad and quite unnerving and ill.

Posted by: Claire Brennen at August 13, 2025 05:34 PM (G5+As)

227 Between Shapiro and Hannity.

Damn, that is hard. Who has the more annoying voice. In a lot of ways they are almost the same voice. Nasally whine.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:34 PM (zZu0s)

228 State of Grace is better Irish mob movie.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:35 PM (VofaG)

229 Billy Jack was/is bad.

Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:35 PM (i0F8b)

230 A Night To Remember >>>> Titanic

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 13, 2025 05:35 PM (wVcYX)

231 227 Between Shapiro and Hannity.

Levin

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:35 PM (Pv3Rg)

232 UAP James@UAPJames

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna tells Joe Rogan she has seen photos of UFOs in a classified setting and is “very confident there’s things out there that have not been created by mankind.”

( Could possibly be, but there are advanced avionics which have been developed that Congress isn't privy to ..)

Posted by: Mister Ghost at August 13, 2025 05:35 PM (TGPs7)

233 197 And what of all the Leftists who think Israel made it all up?
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Greta Thunberg and her merry band of blockade runners refused to watch the Hamas terror videos. Maybe they were worried about copyright infringement.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 13, 2025 05:36 PM (Dv3i1)

234 227

Hannity is worse for me, because he constantly starts sentences with "you know". It's as irritating as bimbos adding "like" to everything they say.

Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 05:36 PM (+b4rY)

235 I'm one of the few people who can't figure out why people hate on "Titanic." I didn't find anything egregiously wrong with it. Billy Zane played his character notably well.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:36 PM (iBAge)

236 Might be a man card suspension but I liked The Devil Wears Prada.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:36 PM (VofaG)

237 Titanic was high on the list of several ladies back in the day.

I have seen it. I liked the boobs and the ship porn. Aside from that, it was horrible.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:36 PM (zZu0s)

238 Luna is hot but she's a loud mouth attention seeking idiot.

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 13, 2025 05:36 PM (MGB5H)

239 I didn't find anything egregiously wrong with it. Billy Zane played his character notably well.

yeah I agree it's fine

it's not highbrow or anything

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 13, 2025 05:37 PM (Pv3Rg)

240 Babylon Bee headline:

Trump vows to drastically reduce the number of criminals in Washington by sending Congress home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2025 05:37 PM (2GCMq)

241 231 227 Between Shapiro and Hannity.

Levin
Posted by: Black Orchid at August

That's a good one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:37 PM (zZu0s)

242 See all the Titanic movies. There's five of em at least. Each one has something to offer. The first one came out only four months after the disaster.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:37 PM (iBAge)

243 I've got an atmospheric river in my pants.

Posted by: Joe Biteum at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (G5+As)

244 I said "often" not always.

And no. Not even "often". Come on. People are not rational actors. Very few behave in a cause and effect manner.

Why do prisons get to house multiple checks ins from the same guest ? Because most people are unwilling to change.

Most people do not self-analyze. They make some assumptions, then shove off from the shore and go wherever the winds take them. Bitching and complaining the entire way when they run out of food, or the sail breaks. All things they had under their control.

What are Californians doing in Colorado ? Turning it into California. The vast majority of people do not reform. Why would they ? They didn't use logic and reason to arrive at their current world-view. Why would they pick up logic and reason now ? That shit is hard.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (x/tSg)

245 I watched Titanic once. It caused my worst feeling about a movie: I didn't care

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (0EwKT)

246 There are two good parts in Titanic, both in the same scene.

Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (i0F8b)

247 'Yes, you read that right: footage of their own atrocities can�t be shown unless the terrorists give permission.'

If those bastards are dead there are no owners and consequentially no permission is needed.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (5M/Mg)

248 [ Hamas ] filmed the massacre now you cant show it

Really? We are going to honor copyrights held by international terror organizations they slaughter Jews and starve their own neighbors?

How cucked are we?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (BvPIe)

249 Any movie where DiCrappio dies is worth the price of admission.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (ynUDq)

250 "Billy Jack was/is bad."

Another one that aged terribly. It seemed so cool at the time, and today it looks so very stupid.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (iBAge)

251 You can learn things from Levin and Shapiro.

Hannity, not so much.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (z6okN)

252 238 Luna is hot but she's a loud mouth attention seeking idiot.
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There's a pattern of this among Republican women in Congress. You probably don't want your Congresswoman being any hotter than Mary Miller of IL. She seems competent and not attention seeking while also being easy on the eyes (but not a "smokeshow" or whatever words people use).

Posted by: the lower depths at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (+b4rY)

253 Titanic was shit. Rose was a villain. They should've thrown her overboard from the salvage vessel.

Posted by: I'll never leave you! *drowns Jack's ass* at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (TbWk/)

254 There are two good parts in Titanic, both in the same scene.
Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (i0F8b)

And it was unexpected, so it does amplify. Like the surprise nudity in one of the boys, doc Hollywood or whole nine yards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (zZu0s)

255 >>doc Hollywood

Those are tits I will never forget.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:40 PM (z6okN)

256 Billy Jack was/is bad."

Another one that aged terribly. It seemed so cool at the time, and today it looks so very stupid.
Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (iBAge)

I just barely remember the line about I'm going to put my foot on the side of your face or something like that.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:40 PM (VofaG)

257 If those bastards are dead there are no owners and consequentially no permission is needed.

Or declassify them as humans and just deprive them of any common human rights.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at August 13, 2025 05:40 PM (BvPIe)

258 nood

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:40 PM (iBAge)

259 Those are tits I will never forget.
Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:40 PM (z6okN)

Amanda Peet in whole nine yards blew me away. She's stacked!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:41 PM (zZu0s)

260 Titanic was shit. Rose was a villain.

I can't sit through any movie that's all about a woman's feelings and wants and desires. Hell, I can't make it through a single day listening to the random wishes of my own wife. Why would I turn on a film to experience the same stupid shit ?

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:41 PM (x/tSg)

261 Also: even if Shapiro wasn't a bought and paid for ultracuck, I still hate speed freaks. Between him and Brett Cooper, I bet they have candy dishes full of Adderall at the Daily Wire.

Jabberjabberjabberjabber for hours.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2025 05:41 PM (S9TDn)

262 DiCaprio only gets parts in movies because Scorsese likes him.

Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 05:41 PM (g47mK)

263 DiCaprio only gets parts in movies because Scorsese likes him.
Posted by: runner at August 13, 2025 05:41 PM (g47mK)

I'll concede that he's a good actor. I thought there was no way he could play Howard Hughes. He nailed it.

Posted by: polynikes at August 13, 2025 05:43 PM (VofaG)

264 263 Concur. I really like that one.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:45 PM (iBAge)

265 I'll concede that he's a good actor.

Catch Me If You Can was good. He's hilarious in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

The guy is entertaining.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:45 PM (x/tSg)

266 And no. Not even "often". Come on. People are not rational actors. Very few behave in a cause and effect manner.

Posted by: That's Not Rain

You just want to argue.
Of course, you are correct in a generally sense, but people do learn or else we would still be beating rocks with clubs in caves.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 05:45 PM (puHQS)

267 Of course, you are correct in a generally sense, but people do learn or else we would still be beating rocks with clubs in caves.

When it comes to politics and religion ? We really are still beating rocks together. We've just got better stuff than rocks and clubs with which to bend each other to our own will.

And so now you just want to argue something about people, en masse, moving toward some kind of socio-political enlightenment.

All current evidence says your position is bullshit. And I see what that will bother you. You are an optimist. There is nothing about the nature of man that should make anyone optimistic.

Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:48 PM (x/tSg)

268 And of course the "western" media is aiding Hamas in its lies. Late last month, the NYT posted a front-page photo, provided by Hamas, to prove that children are starving.

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Zionist lies and propaganda! Jews own the media!
Posted by: Candace Owens at August 13, 2025 04:48 PM (g47mK)

Kid wasn't starving he or she had muscular dystrophy and was being transferred to an Israeli hospital.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:48 PM (8avO+)

269 I see that the man of many handles is back with his latest one for this evening

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2025 05:50 PM (2GCMq)

270 Something has been bothering me about Gaza for a while now. All the caterwauling about hunger and food shortages yet there are no shortages of gas for their vehicles. Check out the car the guy is driving those kids to the hunger photo shoot.

Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:50 PM (unUNN)

271 There are two good parts in Titanic, both in the same scene.
Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2025 05:38 PM (i0F8b)

And it was unexpected, so it does amplify. Like the surprise nudity in one of the boys, doc Hollywood or whole nine yards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (zZu0s)

I laughed and laughed when Rose gets the hammer and chisel to make damn sure Jack's corpse "Lets Go"

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:51 PM (8avO+)

272 Easy Rider is almost as bad as The Godfather.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2025 05:09 PM (z6okN)

Oh, please.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 13, 2025 05:52 PM (5xuJ/)

273 Now clockwork orange thT was horrid

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at August 13, 2025 05:53 PM (bXbFr)

274 All current evidence says your position is bullshit. And I see what that will bother you. You are an optimist. There is nothing about the nature of man that should make anyone optimistic.
Posted by: That's Not Rain at August 13, 2025 05:48 PM (x/tSg)

watch shows about animal rescue

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)

275 Something has been bothering me about Gaza for a while now. All the caterwauling about hunger and food shortages yet there are no shortages of gas for their vehicles. Check out the car the guy is driving those kids to the hunger photo shoot.
Posted by: Decaf at August 13, 2025 05:50 PM (unUNN)

there are no food shortages. Hamas steals it for their own use. Force the NGOs to leave they eat a ton too and are as bad as Hamas.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:56 PM (8avO+)

276
Reminds me of Casablanca and the Horst Wessel Song. Warner Bros wanted to have the Nazis sing the Horst Wessel during the cafe song duel scene, pissing off Victor Laszlo, but it turned out that the NASDAP owned the rights to the song. If they had put it into the movie, they would have legally been obligated to pay the Nazis for the performance. So they went with the old Prussian patriotic song "Watch on the Rhine" which was in the public domain.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 13, 2025 05:57 PM (y9nCu)

277 "Billy Jack was/is bad."

Another one that aged terribly. It seemed so cool at the time, and today it looks so very stupid.
Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at August 13, 2025 05:39 PM (iBAge)

They were smart enough to pop out 2 before the interest waned. The last one was bad enough to earn worst movie ever mentions.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 13, 2025 05:58 PM (8avO+)

278 As I said, you just want to argue.

I am saying that progress can be made, and has been made. Nothing absolute and nothing optimistic.

You are arguing that it can never be made and has never been made. Absolute.
OK, then. next thread.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 13, 2025 06:07 PM (puHQS)

279 @12/(YpP4h): That's bait.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 13, 2025 06:08 PM (O7YUW)

280 Around 2002 or so, "Pallywood" was staging fake funerals: hundreds of "mourners," and a "corpse" lying on a bier, carried to the streets to the ululating of the muslimas.

The Israelis had a helo shot that showed that the "dead" man miraculously SAT UP and hopped off his bier once the procession turned the corner out of sight of the cameras.

LGF used to cover these tricks 20 years ago. Nothing has changed, and the 'media' are still traitors and liars.

Posted by: Beverly at August 13, 2025 07:50 PM (Epeb0)

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Hamas Claims Copyright on Its Own Video Documenting Its Terrorist Atrocities of 10/7;
The Cowardly Toronto Film Festival Rejects a Documentary Using This Video