Disgraced Fired Former ABC "Journalist" Terry Moran: Yes ABC "News" Was Politically Biased Against Trump and the GOP, "Inadvertently"

LOL at "inadvertently."

Moran was always among the most brazen of the left-wing spinners at ABC, only topped by Stephanopolous, and Gay Handbag Model David Muir, and... well a lot of them, really. Let's just say a lot of ABC "talent" ties for second place.

He got fired when his brazen partisanship could not be denied any longer. He got on to Twitter, fortified, most believe, with a disinhibitory dose of alcohol, and proclaimed key Trump advisor Stephen Miller a Nazi.

He's in a snit over his firing, and trying to attract eyeballs to his Substack, now that he's unemployed. So he's now willing to throw ABC "News" under the bus for attention.

But not all the way. He still insists that the "News" division led by Clinton spokesman and spinner George Stephanolpolous is just "inadvertently" biased.

Let's talk about bias. I worked at ABC News for almost 28 years, and I'm proud to say that. A lot of good people do a lot of really good work there, and they try hard to get the story right. There were many days over the years when I'd watch a colleague at work, on-camera or behind the scenes, and I'd think: That's how you do this. That is how you do a story that will really help people understand the truth of what's happening in our country and beyond.
But: Were we biased? Yes. Almost inadvertently, I'd say. ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity.
When I joined ABC News in 1997, it was basically run by white men. (I have nothing against white men; I am one.) That management structure lasted for a long time, way too long. But over the last decade or so, the company made an effort to hire and promote journalists from a much wider diversity of backgrounds and life experiences. That changed ABC News, for the better: changed our conversations, changed our perceptions of stories and events in the country and around the world, changed our coverage. For me, the job got a lot more interesting, and more fun.
But there was one way ABC did not change and did not diversify. It is no secret.

I have made this point a thousand times: Throughout the 80s and 90s and 2000s, left-wing identity politics group would march on up to network news offices and proclaim they were biased against various identity politics groups protected by the left.

The news is biased against women. The networks respond by hiring many female anchors and reporters and scheduling many "women's issue" stories (and non-stories) during the week's "news."

The news is biased against blacks. The networks respond by hiring many black anchors and reporters, and, crucially, agreeing to no longer report the races of criminals when they're black. And ultimately to stop reporting on crime at all. (Except, of course, for racial hoaxes and crimes committed against minorities by whites or, and I still enjoy this, "White Hispanics.")

The news is biased against Muslims. And gays.

And ditto, and ditto.

There are only a couple of groups that the networks insist they have no bias at all against and therefore no need to change or even tweak anything at all:

* Conservatives

* Traditionalist Christians

When those groups complain they are seriously underrepresented in the news business and slandered by liberal "journalists," the networks all responded the same way:

Fuck you, snowflakes, we're not biased and even if we are, fuck you twice, you'll just have to live with it.

I think it's pretty clear those are the groups the leftwing media is actually biased against. The proof is their utter unwillingness to take complaints from those groups with even an atom of interest, while giving away identity-politics concessions to literally every other group with a grievance.

There are hardly any people who supported Donald Trump at ABC News--or the other corporate/legacy/mainstream news networks. And this is bound to impact coverage, not so much out of malevolent bias (that's the cartoon version peddled by Trump, Brendan Carr and online MAGA), but more out of what is a kind of deafness.
The old news divisions don't hear many of the voices of the country, because those voices aren't in the newsroom. Yes, news teams go out with a microphone and a camera and accost people at Trump rallies; but to me that often comes off as weirdly anthropological and inaccurate, kind of like trying to understand nature by visiting a zoo. You don't really see a tiger at the zoo, just a version of a tiger.

None of this is inadvertent. It's been corporate news policy for decades: All groups are entitled to have a seat at the news table and have their concerns heard, except for the two groups the communists actually despise with genocidal passion, conservatives and Christians.

Posted by: Ace at 04:40 PM

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1 Another disgrace?

I'll let the others know...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 04:41 PM (O7YUW)

2 Yeah it isn't inadvertent when things always go one direction.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:41 PM (tT6L1)

3 YEET

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 05, 2025 04:42 PM (ueXh5)

4 yeow!

Posted by: DanMan at August 05, 2025 04:42 PM (8uzBS)

5 >>>2 Yeah it isn't inadvertent when things always go one direction.

You're inadvertent.

We are Real News, Racist.

Posted by: Jm J. Acosta at August 05, 2025 04:43 PM (KRtlO)

6 Disgraced Fired Former ABC "Journalist" Terry Moran: Yes ABC "News" Was Politically Biased Against Trump and the GOP, "Inadvertently"
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I don't think that word means that he thinks it means.

Posted by: Fezzick at August 05, 2025 04:43 PM (krQz2)

7 I do not appreciate Ace forcing us to actually read past the first word of the headline to tell that he's made another post.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (B9Prs)

8 Inadvertent Enemy Action.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (krQz2)

9 The left seems to think that diversity only means hiring minority and female leftists. The want diverse opinions because the only opinions that matter to them are theirs.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (viF8m)

10 >>>7 I do not appreciate Ace forcing us to actually read past the first word of the headline to tell that he's made another post.

it just turned out that the exact same words apply to both of these vile specimens.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (KRtlO)

11 Today is "Disgraced Fired Former 'Journalist' Day" at the HQ? Nobody told me!

Oh, wait. Any day can be "Disgraced Fired Former 'Journalist' Day." Never mind.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (omVj0)

12 I'm old enough to remember when CBS and BBC were the gold standard of news. Something changed.

Either I realized they were lying or they started lying and I noticed.

Posted by: DanMan at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (8uzBS)

13 I do not appreciate Ace forcing us to actually read past the first word of the headline to tell that he's made another post.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (B9Prs)
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I'm sure it was inadvertent. Though, maybe some internalized biases were at play.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (tT6L1)

14 I worked at ABC News for almost 28 years, and I'm proud to say that.
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:: fires up translator ::

"I'm evil and stupid."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (6bTRc)

15 "inadvertently." LOL

I meant to put in just the tip. The rest entered "inadvertently."

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (pMi6S)

16 Ace is having a "Where are they now?" day.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (O7YUW)

17 "inadvertently", the Nazis should have tried that defense at Nuremberg

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (r/xMY)

18 LOL at "inadvertently."

https://youtu.be/fXbsQdFU9Qs&t=84s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (ynpvh)

19 They don't want ..

MY multi-tasking is getting worse. I may have to give up work.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (viF8m)

20 >>>16 Ace is having a "Where are they now?" day.

the answer is simple: Substack. Podcasts. The Sport of the Future, Kickboxing!

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (KRtlO)

21 Ace: "He got on to Twitter, fortified, most believe, with a disinhibitory dose of alcohol[.]" Love it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (omVj0)

22 And these are the same people who always like to tell Trump supporters they live in a bubble.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (tT6L1)

23 As soon as the Democrats are back in power these fucktards will resurface in their old jobs. Fortified.

Bet on it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (Q4IgG)

24 News @ 11

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (jc0TO)

25
Sorry I got blind drunk, drove at high speed, hit your car and killed your kid. It was inadvertent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 05, 2025 04:46 PM (kkTda)

26 >>>I meant to put in just the tip. The rest entered "inadvertently."

I insert more than the tip into men every day, but in my imagination.

Posted by: Barrack Hussein "Juicy Mouth" Obama at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (KRtlO)

27 He got fired when his brazen partisanship could not be denied any longer. He got on to Twitter, fortified, most believe, with a disinhibitory dose of alcohol, and proclaimed key Trump advisor Stephen Miller a Nazi.

As one does.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

28 disinhibitory dose of alcohol

I've had that happen occasionally. Didn't bode well.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (X7zFE)

29 Substack: It's like a blog, but with fewer readers!

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (pMi6S)

30 "Inadvertently" just means they're annoyed you figured it out.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (B9Prs)

31 But: Were we biased? Yes. Almost inadvertently, I'd say. ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity.
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When your entire industry has - at all levels from the academy to the newsroom to the editorial office to the executive suite - spent decades self-selecting for ideological conformity among its membership, you cannot claim that the absence of "viewpoint diversity" is in any way inadvertent.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (6bTRc)

32 and, crucially, agreeing to no longer report the races of criminals when they're black

Somebody arsoned a playground next to a Somali preschool in Portland yesterday, and the local TV station immediately reported that the suspect was white.

OTOH, the Oregonian newspaper used to have a policy of only identifying suspects when they were white. They stopped this when it dawned on them that they were providing a racial identifier whenever they didn't report the race of the suspect.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (xTIDn)

33 >>>21 Ace: "He got on to Twitter, fortified, most believe, with a disinhibitory dose of alcohol[.]" Love it.

thank you. I liked that too.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (KRtlO)

34 All groups are entitled to have a seat at the news table and have their concerns heard, except for the two groups the communists actually despise with genocidal passion,

We're letting dead guys give their opinion now.

Posted by: Jim the Ghoul at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (VqUBF)

35 Your Honour, if the pants aren't lit, you must acquit!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (O7YUW)

36 Stephanopoulos inadvertently called Trump a rapist, despite being repeatedly warned by members of the production staff to leave that out.

Is that how it works?

Oh, and Stephanopoulos still has a job at ABC....

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (krQz2)

37 There is literally a revolving door where democrats move from staff positions in democrat administrations to newsrooms and vice versa. I can't believe anyone tries to pretend differently, it has been going on for longer than I have been alive.

Posted by: Thomans Paine at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (Vfq+S)

38 Inadvertently on purpose.

Posted by: huerfano at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (98kQX)

39 Inadvertently: The media knowing exactly what they are doing. We are not supposed to notice.

Posted by: scampydog at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (2bFN5)

40 The bias was intentionally. They inadvertently turned their news operations into money losing horseshit that nobody wanted to watch except to laugh at how stupid and gay they are.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (oMKCH)

41 Substack: Where losers go to explore the studio space of losing.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (pMi6S)

42 We need more Bolshevik commenters to diversify our worldview.

Where have you gone, ergastularius?

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (jc0TO)

43 Moran has to say it's inadvertent, since he was one of the worst offenders. If he actually told the truth, that's it's all completely deliberate, he'd be admitting that he was in on the scam. I'd get angry about this, but I just don't care about insects like Moran. Seriously, dude, get your eyes moved apart.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (Riz8t)

44 I inadvertently switched over the RR tracks on the DC Metro.

Posted by: Achmed at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (/U5Yz)

45 Substack: Where losers go to explore the studio space of losing.
Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (pMi6S)

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Nope. It's where they find an outlet for their selective appeal.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (tT6L1)

46 I'm old enough to remember when CBS and BBC were the gold standard of news. Something changed.

Either I realized they were lying or they started lying and I noticed.
Posted by: DanMan at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (8uzBS)

Cronkite at CBS threw a spanner in the Vietnam war on purpose, so they have been lying for a long time. Before that they probably were lying for the administrations much of the time. Once they started calling themselves journalists you have to figure its an op.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (8avO+)

47 >>>29 Substack: It's like a blog, but with fewer readers!

it seems to be a good thing to have... it's just amusing that for years and years, these people cancelled other people from the "real media" and forced them to make money from substack and podcasts. (And then they tried to get THOSE cancelled, too.)

And now they're all forced into the same platforms-of-last-resort they forced so many other people into.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (KRtlO)

48
Since when should news organizations even recruit a "balance" of conservative, liberal, secular, Christian, capitalist, Marxist, etc journalists? Just hire people who can get some facts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (n7rxJ)

49 and, crucially, agreeing to no longer report the races of criminals when they're black

...leaving no doubt as to their race. Funny, no?

Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (+Tpk4)

50 ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity.

When I joined ABC News in 1997, it was basically run by white men. ... That management structure lasted for a long time, way too long. But over the last decade or so, the company made an effort to hire and promote journalists from a much wider diversity of backgrounds and life experiences.
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In combination, this is one of the funniest things I have ever read.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:50 PM (6bTRc)

51 Inadvertently, the Austrian painter did some things to some people...

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at August 05, 2025 04:50 PM (ynpvh)

52 Hey baby, thassh a nice ass. *hic*
What? I can't shay shomething nice about another man?

Posted by: Terry Moran at August 05, 2025 04:50 PM (Riz8t)

53 So he gets booted off TV and goes on Twitter/X so he can spew his crap ? Why can't he just go away ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 04:50 PM (VE6XX)

54 and, crucially, agreeing to no longer report the races of criminals when they're black

...leaving no doubt as to their race. Funny, no?
Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (+Tpk4)

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"Name that party" was sort of a party game for a while.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:50 PM (tT6L1)

55 But: Were we biased? Yes. Almost inadvertently, I'd say. ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity. - Terry Moran

What quaint spin: "A lack of viewpoint diversity."

Fuck you. Speaking as Moran with clarity, "We had a single viewpoint because we were all in on the fix that only the Marxist left point of view is what mattered."

You cannot not despise these lying propagandists enough.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (9vYpt)

56 Can Musk buy Substack? They’d love that.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (oMKCH)

57 Did I do that?!

Posted by: ABC at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (krQz2)

58 Terry who?

Posted by: Most people at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (jiit1)

59 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (jc0TO)

60 Fuck you, snowflakes, we're not biased and even if we are, fuck you twice, you'll just have to live with it.
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Eh, not for the past while. At least a decade. They quit even pretending to pretend back during the first Trump administration. They went with the "reality has a progressive bias" thing instead.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (6bTRc)

61 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?
Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (jc0TO)
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I believe one can subscribe to various authors.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (tT6L1)

62 But: Were we biased? Yes. Almost inadvertently, I'd say. ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity.
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When your entire industry has - at all levels from the academy to the newsroom to the editorial office to the executive suite - spent decades self-selecting for ideological conformity among its membership, you cannot claim that the absence of "viewpoint diversity" is in any way inadvertent.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:47 PM (6bTRc)

Once they quit doing an apprenticeship of reporting local news and plucking liberals out of college it was all over. You just had to wait for each generation to shake off their morals successively.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (8avO+)

63 >>>59 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?

I don't know if you HAVE to pay for most posts but yes, it's a blog with a subscription model.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (KRtlO)

64 A jeans company inadvertently stated Sydney Sweeney has a great rack.

Posted by: steven at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (AY3ny)

65
Substack: Where losers go to explore the studio space of losing.
Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:48 PM (pMi6S)

__________

Lots of those Substacks are the digital equivalent of the mimeographed screeds explaining the conspiracy among the Bilderburgers, the Council for Foreign Relations, the Rothschilds and the Rosicrucians for world domination.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (kkTda)

66 So he gets booted off TV and goes on Twitter/X so he can spew his crap ? Why can't he just go away ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 04:50 PM (VE6XX)
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This too is the story of Abellio Acosta.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (krQz2)

67 It's vertent!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (63Dwl)

68 Unexpectedly?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (oSeBJ)

69 I don't understand.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (c35xG)

70 I inadvertently put my penis into Lindsey Graham's keister.

Posted by: Mark Milley at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (/U5Yz)

71 Those legacy media types revel in the knowledge that they are an Elite.

The sacking must be a bitter pill for Terry Moran to swallow

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (Jd1e1)

72 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?

I remember when Ace showed us lots of pictures of substacks. I'm not sure what they have to do with the news, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (Riz8t)

73 One more twisted little fruit we're rid of. Soon, they'll all be gone, but not soon enough.

I'm ready to be unburdened by has-beens.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (fEC80)

74 it seems to be a good thing to have... it's just amusing that for years and years, these people cancelled other people from the "real media" and forced them to make money from substack and podcasts. (And then they tried to get THOSE cancelled, too.)

And now they're all forced into the same platforms-of-last-resort they forced so many other people into.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:49 PM (KRtlO)

If you sign up for the Patreon, you get access to the discord!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (B9Prs)

75 Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.

The left-wing newspapers refuse to report the names of the perps, of course, and get ever more creative in trying to obfuscate the identity of the attackers.

In one of the recent attacks, the unnamed perp was said to have "an Irish address".

Somehow, I don't think his name is McGillicuddy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (xTIDn)

76 55 What quaint spin: "A lack of viewpoint diversity."

Fuck you. Speaking as Moran with clarity, "We had a single viewpoint because we were all in on the fix that only the Marxist left point of view is what mattered."

You cannot not despise these lying propagandists enough.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (9vYpt

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"Also, I oppose the hiring of anyone to the right of David French on any news organization's payroll because of misinformation concerns."
-Moran, in his next Substack

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (Vmn5q)

77 I had a substack of pancakes for breakfast...

Posted by: Ilhan Omar at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (ynpvh)

78 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?
Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:51 PM (jc0TO)
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I believe one can subscribe to various authors.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (tT6L1)

Authors can publish for free like a blog, or charge per article or for special ones.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (8avO+)

79 She has a great set of genes.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (Np7+P)

80 I don't know if you HAVE to pay for most posts but yes, it's a blog with a subscription model.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM

Do you have one in addition to this and your OF?

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (jc0TO)

81 inadvertently, i discharged a firearm into a tyrant.

Posted by: John Wilkes Booth at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (KRtlO)

82 "inadvertently", the Nazis should have tried that defense at Nuremberg
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2025 04:45 PM (r/xMY)

Nein, nein. That whole killing six million Jews thing was inadvertent.

We were actually going after the Methodistw and their crappy Lime Jello salads.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (iJfKG)

83 >>Since when should news organizations even recruit a "balance" of conservative, liberal, secular, Christian, capitalist, Marxist, etc journalists? Just hire people who can get some facts.

CBS tried that with Katherine Herridge. She's a very good, fact based investigative reporter. They forced her out when she uncovered too many facts they didn't like.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (viF8m)

84 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?

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Noone knows what it means. But it's provocative. It gets the people going.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (B9Prs)

85 70 I inadvertently put my penis into Lindsey Graham's keister.
Posted by: Mark Milley at August 05, 2025 04:52 PM (/U5Yz)

Why do these homos keep sucking my cock?

Posted by: Lindsey! at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (VqUBF)

86 Off incestuous congressional sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (ynpvh)

87 >>Do you have one in addition to this and your OF?

no but I should do one

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (KRtlO)

88 "inadvertently."

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (0N4FZ)

89 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes? Posted by: toby928

It is were ex-MSM shits go when they lose their jobs. Think of it as OnlyFans but for propagandists. If they didn't Substack they would be giving blow jobs in alleys for bus tokens.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (9vYpt)

90 And now they're all forced into the same platforms-of-last-resort they forced so many other people into.
Posted by: ace
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I am enjoying the smug getting rugged.

Posted by: scampydog at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (2bFN5)

91 75
In one of the recent attacks, the unnamed perp was said to have "an Irish address".

Somehow, I don't think his name is McGillicuddy.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (xTIDn)

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At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (Vmn5q)

92 >>>Noone knows what it means. But it's provocative. It gets the people going.

big lol

(took me a sec but I got the reference

an ice-devouring sex tornado of a reference)

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (KRtlO)

93 59 I have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?
Posted by: toby928

Pretty much.

"Substack" is just a rebrandning of the concept of a "blog." The only differences are that a corporate entity does the hosting and arranges the ads for you, also also allows you to put your content behind a paywall, if you think you can convince people to read your shit.

But basically, a substack is just a blog. Lame.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (pMi6S)

94 There are hardly any people who supported Donald Trump at ABC News--or the other corporate/legacy/mainstream news networks. And this is bound to impact coverage, not so much out of malevolent bias (that's the cartoon version peddled by Trump, Brendan Carr and online MAGA), but more out of what is a kind of deafness.
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You don't get to plead ignorance. No sale. You knew. Every single one of you knew that you were operating a rigidly conformist ideological complex. Even if you didn't know in the moment, at the beginning (which seems hard to believe), you knew after the first general election you ever covered. You saw the results come in that half the country - more or less - supported Candidate X, and that neither you nor any of your colleagues did.

In that moment, if not earlier, you knew. You knew and did nothing but continue pursing greater and greater ideological purity.

You don't get to plead ignorance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (6bTRc)

95
And now they're all forced into the same platforms-of-last-resort they forced so many other people into.
Posted by: ace

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I think it's funny that they have to compete against each other on those platforms now. And it's real competition; they don't have an MSM-sized budget for set builders or lighting technicians or travel or advertising. What's equally funny is that the only interviews they can snag are mostly with each other. Commentators interviewing commentators. (Acosta, admittedly, figured out a bold new strategy for content development but that seems to be backfiring.)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (n7rxJ)

96 [iI have to confess that I don't really know what a substack is. I was thinking it was a blog that you have to pay to read, yes?

I subbed to Alex Berenson during the Plandemic, he was the only legacy media type against the poke.
I didn’t renew the subscription, but I still get his articles.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2025 04:55 PM (Jd1e1)

97 Learn to falafel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 04:55 PM (Np7+P)

98 87 >>Do you have one in addition to this and your OF?

no but I should do one
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 04:53 PM (KRtlO)

===

And just like that, Kaboom went behind a paywall.

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:55 PM (Vmn5q)

99 Diverse viewpoint: They can all eat shit and DIAF. Fuck all these people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2025 04:55 PM (P7vXf)

100 Yes, news teams go out with a microphone and a camera and accost people at Trump rallies; but to me that often comes off as weirdly anthropological and inaccurate, kind of like trying to understand nature by visiting a zoo.
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Remember when press whores left their their NY digs to go on safari to Ohio to interview Trump supporters in the aftermath of 2016?

This ain't new. Screw this guy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 04:55 PM (6bTRc)

101 Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.

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When I see American citizens like Terry Moran, I have a hard time drumming up sympathy for Ireland's immigrant problem.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (fEC80)

102 >> I think it's pretty clear those are the groups the leftwing media is actually biased against. The proof is their utter unwillingness to take complaints from those groups with even an atom of interest, while giving away identity-politics concessions to literally every other group with a grievance.

I dont even really think theyre "biased" in that theyre pushing their own agendas and unable to look outside the box.

Theyre lying propagandists. They know what theyre doing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (01jAz)

103 I think it's funny that they have to compete against each other on those platforms now. And it's real competition; they don't have an MSM-sized budget for set builders or lighting technicians or travel or advertising. What's equally funny is that the only interviews they can snag are mostly with each other. Commentators interviewing commentators. (Acosta, admittedly, figured out a bold new strategy for content development but that seems to be backfiring.)

I await with pleasure the advent of Acosta doing the news in the nude. No homo.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (Riz8t)

104 @94/Joe Mannix: "You don't get to plead ignorance."

No kidding. JournoList.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (O7YUW)

105 I do Alex Berenson and Matt Taibbi

Taibbi's is especially good

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (Pv3Rg)

106 These network "news" people simply Refuse. To. Stop. Lying.

Posted by: Just reporting at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (KVMBp)

107 Was going to say that unlike other categories, one doesn't have a choice on one's sex and race.

Until recently. Now, people can apparently 'choose' to swap their sex organs.

So, the new argument should be...okay, one cannot choose one's race but as long as one could change one's sex just as one could change one's faith, why shan't sex quotas be treated diff from faith quotas?

And watch them squirm.

Posted by: geewhiz at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (V87Oy)

108 Maybe Moran can interview an AI Stephanopolous to support this story.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (64qRd)

109 At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?

Soon. A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (xTIDn)

110 Are you spying on Americans for whom you do not have a warrant?

Clapper: "Inadvertently"

actually I think he said, "not deliberately", but it was, of course, very deliberate.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (vbXSk)

111 Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.
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Slap hot iron to that.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (krQz2)

112 Why do these homos keep sucking my cock?
Posted by: Lindsey!

Corrected for accuracy:

"Why do these homos keep placing their penises in my mouth?"

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (pMi6S)

113 These network "news" people simply Refuse. To. Stop. Lying.

They can't. Literally. The world has changed and they lack the wit to change with it.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (Riz8t)

114 When I see American citizens like Terry Moran, I have a hard time drumming up sympathy for Ireland's immigrant problem.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (fEC80)

What does that mean?!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (01jAz)

115 70 I inadvertently put my penis into Lindsey Graham's keister.
Posted by: Mark Milley
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Slipped on a banana peel?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (c35xG)

116 ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity
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More stupid faggy passive voice.

Try: "ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: We're a bunch of lying evil perverted fucking leftards."

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (jRYyy)

117 I saw Ice Devouring Sex Tornadoes open for...

Posted by: Never mind at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (jiit1)

118 no but I should do one

Yes, you should. You could get creative.
And only charge us a dollar/month

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (Jd1e1)

119 >>> BREAKING: Project Veritas: Whistleblower: Former AG Bill Barr and Media Figure Use Burner Phones to Run Illegal Immigration Visa Fraud Scheme for Elites and Billionaires
- GWP

I don't care if it is true or not. I just want the fat POS Barr deny it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (/lPRQ)

120 8 Terry who?
Posted by: Most people at August 05, 2025

***
That pic of Terry Moran on the article Ace linked looks like an actor portraying a goofy network "news" man in a parody sketch on SCTV or MadTV.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM (omVj0)

121 I inadvertently put my penis into Lindsey Graham's keister.
Posted by: Mark Milley
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Slipped on a banana peel?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM

One-in-a-million shot.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (jc0TO)

122 Its almost as if ABC is looking to lose all of their broadcast licenses.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (/U5Yz)

123 There are hardly any people who supported Donald Trump at ABC News--or the other corporate/legacy/mainstream news networks. And this is bound to impact coverage, not so much out of malevolent bias...

==

I disagree. It was malevolent.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (qBdHI)

124
Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.

_________

My sympathy for the Irish is about zero. Among the most self-regarding, underachieving people on the planet.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (kkTda)

125 At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?
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I had a somewhat tangental conversation with my sister last night--at what point do *people* stop paying attention to "news orgs" who are obviously WAY MORE into propaganda than they are "news"? My sister was debating whether "anyone" pays attention to ABC, NBC, & CBS these days and I had to remind her--about 45% of this country doesn't understand/want-to-understand how horribly biased those outfits are. They still labor on believing they're watching "the news" at 5 o'clock, rather than the 5 o'clock hate.

Posted by: Crusader at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (TN0g+)

126 ABC News has the same problem so many leading cultural institutions do in America: A lack of viewpoint diversity
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And not enough cowbell.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (krQz2)

127 I disagree. It was malevolent.

Perhaps even misevolent or disevolent.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (Riz8t)

128
When I joined ABC News in 1997, it was basically run by white men. (I have nothing against white men; I am one.) That management structure lasted for a long time, way too long. But over the last decade or so, the company made an effort to hire and promote journalists from a much wider diversity of backgrounds and life experiences.

Is it me, or is Moran being cutesy about blaming women and black employees, while trying not to be SEEN as blaming them?

Nah. Dat's crazy talk.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (y9nCu)

129 no but I should do one

Yes, you should. You could get creative.
And only charge us a dollar/month
Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2025 04:57 PM

That 8 dollars a month could feed an ewok village.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)

130 These network "news" people simply Refuse. To. Stop. Lying.
Posted by: Just reporting at August 05, 2025 04:56 PM (KVMBp)

They forgot the Clinton rule of never admitting anything. Now they will lose any remnant sympathy from their own side.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (8avO+)

131 $20. Same as at CBS.

Posted by: Obligatory at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (jiit1)

132 Maybe Moran can interview an AI Stephanopolous to support this story.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025

***
The next big thing:

"Network News Anchor Interviews AI Emperor Nero: Claims He Didn't Start the Fire"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (omVj0)

133 btw people were at Medium but got "canceled" for wrong think there so substack was basically a last resort for a lot of people

samizdat substack

I appreciate them for this

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (Pv3Rg)

134 @128/Wolfus: "That pic of Terry Moran on the article Ace linked looks like an actor portraying a goofy network "news" man in a parody sketch on SCTV or MadTV."

It's a real-life Mr. Potato Head!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (O7YUW)

135 over the last decade or so, the company made an effort to hire and promote journalists from a much wider diversity of backgrounds and life experiences.

Always Be Communizing

Posted by: t-bird at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (+Tpk4)

136 I had a somewhat tangental conversation with my sister last night--at what point do *people* stop paying attention to "news orgs" who are obviously WAY MORE into propaganda than they are "news"? My sister was debating whether "anyone" pays attention to ABC, NBC, & CBS these days and I had to remind her--about 45% of this country doesn't understand/want-to-understand how horribly biased those outfits are. They still labor on believing they're watching "the news" at 5 o'clock, rather than the 5 o'clock hate.
Posted by: Crusader at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (TN0g+)

Makes me think of a question. Do people write off national news programs and only watch their local 10:00/11:00 news?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (64qRd)

137 BREAKING: Project Veritas: Whistleblower: Former AG Bill Barr and Media Figure Use Burner Phones to Run Illegal Immigration Visa Fraud Scheme for Elites and Billionaires
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Ah would love to go back and resurrect all the first term threads where I got called a traitor and a troll for not being sufficiently deferential to Buffet Barr.

Heady times.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (jRYyy)

138 s it me, or is Moran being cutesy about blaming women and black employees, while trying not to be SEEN as blaming them?

Nah. Dat's crazy talk.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (y9nCu)

He doesn't think he is, but he is.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (8avO+)

139
CBS tried that with Katherine Herridge. She's a very good, fact based investigative reporter. They forced her out when she uncovered too many facts they didn't like.
Posted by: JackStraw

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That's what happened with Sharyl Attkisson, too, isn't it? Just use those people for heaven's sakes.

Employment interviews at news orgs should be be "show us the stories you've uncovered," not "whom do you support, one of our conservatives quit and we've gotta balance our 3:00 pm panel."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (n7rxJ)

140 124
Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.

_________

My sympathy for the Irish is about zero. Among the most self-regarding, underachieving people on the planet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I agree and I'm half Irish.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (/U5Yz)

141 Soon. A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".

Mark Steyn:

This story caught my eye because, although it is many decades since I have lived in the United Kingdom, in the days when I did, Warwickshire was one of the two counties in the English interior that I knew best. It has changed somewhat:

Anger is growing over a 'cover-up' after two Afghan asylum seekers were charged with the alleged rape of a 12-year-old girl, but police advised authorities not to reveal their background.

Ahmad Mulakhil, 23, was charged with the rape of the girl in Nuneaton, Warwickshire.

While a second man, Mohammad Kabir, also 23, was charged with aiding and abetting rape, as well as strangulation and kidnap of the girl, who is now receiving specialist care.

...

But just in case you needed confirmation that the British constabulary have chosen a side, and it is not your side...

Sources told the Daily Mail on Sunday that Warwickshire Police advised local councillors and officials not to reveal the asylum seeker background of the two suspects, for fear of 'inflaming community tensions'.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (xTIDn)

142 That 8 dollars a month could feed an ewok village.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 04:59 PM (jc0TO)
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As could a group of humans without a golden android.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 05:01 PM (krQz2)

143 >>There are hardly any people who supported Donald Trump at ABC News--or the other corporate/legacy/mainstream news networks.

I'm sure it was just a coincidence that every single legacy media outfit was completely wrong on the Russia hoax, the rigged 2020 election, the China virus, Biden's broken brain and basically everything else for the last few decades.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 05:01 PM (viF8m)

144 Unlike the MSM, AoSHQ persists and will continue to persist because it has an unapologetically honest point of view and language. It is never a fraud like the MSM bastards I despise.

Now that Ace has a big head for the day, let me say this: nobody reads your stuff, we only come here to comment about what we think you wrote. Oddly, this is a compliment of the highest order.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 05:01 PM (9vYpt)

145 What demographic does Georgie Porgie represent?

This Clinton has-been has probably never even had a paper cut. His hands are like butter and even Tater is butch compared to this imp of a man.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 05, 2025 05:01 PM (9bq/n)

146 BREAKING: Project Veritas: Whistleblower: Former AG Bill Barr and Media Figure Use Burner Phones to Run Illegal Immigration Visa Fraud Scheme for Elites and Billionaires

I would love to see Barr inspect the end of a hemp rope -with his neck.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 05:01 PM (/U5Yz)

147 Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.

_________

My sympathy for the Irish is about zero. Among the most self-regarding, underachieving people on the planet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (kkTda)

What are we? Chopped liver?

Posted by: All Muslims Everywhere Throughtout All Time at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (iJfKG)

148
I don't care if it is true or not. I just want the fat POS Barr deny it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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more than that

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (c35xG)

149 @136/WitchDoktor: "Makes me think of a question. Do people write off national news programs and only watch their local 10:00/11:00 news?"

"Local", implying independently written and not centrally scripted. Haha. No.

https://youtu.be/ksb3KD6DfSI

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (O7YUW)

150 "Network News Anchor Interviews AI Charles II of England: 'Yes, I Was a Party Animal, But Who Wasn't?' "

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (omVj0)

151 My sympathy for the Irish is about zero. Among the most self-regarding, underachieving people on the planet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (kkTda)

I see. And what is your ethnic and religious background if I may be so bold as to ask?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (01jAz)

152 At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?
Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (Vmn5q)
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They basically have.

My old home town is an example of what happens when you try to challenge that. Fed up with the destruction of Denver by vagrants and the shocking lack of news coverage, an X account called "DoBetterDNVR" started posting about the vagrants and its consequences on the city.

The response by city officials and the establishment press - both mainstream and "alternative" - was to excoriate and dox the people involved.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (6bTRc)

153
OT: Helpful tip. Don't leave mousetraps out in your office over the weekend in summer without also turning on the AC. Unless you like your office to smell like dead mouse.

Live mice already smell like death, no need to turn it up to 11.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (y9nCu)

154 "All groups are entitled to have a seat at the news table and have their concerns heard, except for the two groups the communists actually despise with genocidal passion, conservatives and Christians."

Also, they have been virulently anti 2A for literally my entire lifetime.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (dKEEs)

155 Makes me think of a question. Do people write off national news programs and only watch their local 10:00/11:00 news?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:00 PM (64qRd)

you watch local anything?

I used to have to go to Twitter and the USGS for information on Cali fires as the local news was all standing in front of flames.

Tho a year or two ago when LA had a hurricane there was a local SD channel weatherman who was direct, not standing in surf, and gave exact information. Saw it on Youtube.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (8avO+)

156 ABC News got better and better, until it lost it's broadcast license and went out of business. Women and minorities hardest hit.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (MZ+PY)

157 "Network News Anchor Interviews AI Henry VIII: 'Those Women Kept Entrapping Me Into Marriage!' "

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (omVj0)

158 146 BREAKING: Project Veritas: Whistleblower: Former AG Bill Barr and Media Figure Use Burner Phones to Run Illegal Immigration Visa Fraud Scheme for Elites and Billionaires

I would love to see Barr inspect the end of a hemp rope -with his neck.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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First.
Stick that bagpipe up his ass.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (c35xG)

159 Beta males go on Substack.

Alpha males go on Domstack.

Posted by: zombie at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (pMi6S)

160 BREAKING: Project Veritas: Whistleblower: Former AG Bill Barr and Media Figure Use Burner Phones to Run Illegal Immigration Visa Fraud Scheme for Elites and Billionaires
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Ah would love to go back and resurrect all the first term threads where I got called a traitor and a troll for not being sufficiently deferential to Buffet Barr.

Heady times.

Posted by: ...

And if these charges are proven true, I'll be the first to congratulate you and say I was wrong about Barr. If. I'll wait until that happens, and you should as well.

FTR, I don't think I ever called you a troll or a traitor about this topic.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (Riz8t)

161 At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (Vmn5q)
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Never. If a white male is the perp, never.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (krQz2)

162 Someone on X said Acosta should try an interview with an AI aborted baby.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (paSBy)

163 Barr: look , this is cruel and unusual. Would you please pull the bagpipes out of my ass

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (r/xMY)

164 Start interviewing dead people. That's the ticket.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (P7vXf)

165 Soon. A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

But first, the local cops took turns too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (/lPRQ)

166 Yes. It was an accident.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (JHTZ0)

167 "Local", implying independently written and not centrally scripted. Haha. No.

https://youtu.be/ksb3KD6DfSI
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (O7YUW)

Just thinking of the 10:00 channel 4 news with Trey whomever the fuck. Local sports, weather, etc.

Dunno. I don't watch TV anymore.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:05 PM (64qRd)

168 We should really be putting some serious pressure on the Pulitzer Organization relative to those "journalists" who all received Pulitzer designation while with the Washington Post and the New York Times and reporting on Russiagate.

Those people have been able to stay relatively invisible. For example, one of the Washington Post reporters was Philip Rucker. What's Philip up to these days? Well, he got a nice cushy job as Senior VP at CNN. We should be tearing these people apart. Every one that received a Pulitzer should be cannon fodder.

It's not like the New York Times doesn't have a history in that regard. Back in 1931, Walter Duranty did a 12 story series on what a good egg Josef Stalin was, and won a Pulitzer. If they are going to take this path, we need to trash the award, which is a "religious" experience in journalism. Tear down their sacred jewels.

Posted by: Orson at August 05, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)

169 My sympathy for the Irish is about zero. Among the most self-regarding, underachieving people on the planet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (kkTda)

I see. And what is your ethnic and religious background if I may be so bold as to ask?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 05:02 PM (01jAz)

Produced a crap load of merc officers to fight in Europe all the way to Russia. Almost as ubiquitous as Swiss Pikemen a few centuries before.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:05 PM (8avO+)

170 "Do you have one in addition to this and your OF?"

what is an OF?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 05:06 PM (vbXSk)

171 I think we need a new term for "journalist". Those who write it shall henceforth be called "birdcage liner writers". Those who read it into a camera shall be called "birdcage liner readers".

Replacement of "birdcage liner" with "emergency TP" is acceptable.

So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at August 05, 2025 05:06 PM (S/Y4j)

172 OT: Helpful tip. Don't leave mousetraps out in your office over the weekend in summer without also turning on the AC. Unless you like your office to smell like dead mouse.

Live mice already smell like death, no need to turn it up to 11.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 05:03 PM (y9nCu)
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Yes, I remember finding that out the hard way one time when a mousetrap caught a mouse behind the printer in the office and was not disposed of by the custodians in a timely manner.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 05, 2025 05:06 PM (7fElN)

173 Can't be biased against evil seems to be their argument these days.

You kinda wish they'd hold a press dinner, have the doors chained shut, then actually show them some authoritarianism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 05:06 PM (zZu0s)

174 oh, Only Fans ... didn't know Ace had one of those ... heh

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 05:06 PM (vbXSk)

175 The journalistic ethos in a nutshell:

"Regular people can commit acts of journalism," said Patrick Ferrucci, chair of the Department of Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. "They can disseminate important information, and that's great. But that's only a piece of what journalism does. Journalism often puts that information into context, which makes it more useful for people. And, more importantly, journalism is not just defined by the end product. It is defined by the process that goes into it. Ethics, norms, verification -- all these things that make the information that goes out different."

It doesn't take much of a translation engine to figure out what he means. Journalism isn't about facts and events, it's about "contextualizing" those facts and events, and as such is ideological performance art.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (6bTRc)

176 Soon. A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

But first, the local cops took turns too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

There needs to be a reckoning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (P7vXf)

177 174 oh, Only Fans ... didn't know Ace had one of those ... heh

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 05:06 PM (vbXSk)

Raising money the hard way...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (ynpvh)

178
Now that Ace has a big head for the day, let me say this: nobody reads your stuff, we only come here to comment about what we think you wrote. Oddly, this is a compliment of the highest order.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 05:01 PM (9vYpt)

Which is almost word for word what Andrew Breitbart said about Teh Horde, if memory serves.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (y9nCu)

179 Somewhere along the line "reporters" turned into "journalists."

And everything got fucked up.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (64qRd)

180 Ah would love to go back and resurrect all the first term threads where I got called a traitor and a troll for not being sufficiently deferential to Buffet Barr.

Heady times.
Posted by: ...
===

I think I was consistent in saying he had great deference for the deepstate and knew, just KNEW, the government would collapse if it all came out... So swept it under the rug.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (/lPRQ)

181 "Regular people can commit acts of journalism," said Patrick Ferrucci, chair of the Department of Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. "They can disseminate important information, and that's great. But that's only a piece of what journalism does. Journalism often puts that information into context, which makes it more useful for people. And, more importantly, journalism is not just defined by the end product. It is defined by the process that goes into it. Ethics, norms, verification -- all these things that make the information that goes out different."

I guarantee this guy sniffs his own farts.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (Riz8t)

182 It's not like the New York Times doesn't have a history in that regard. Back in 1931, Walter Duranty did a 12 story series on what a good egg Josef Stalin was, and won a Pulitzer. If they are going to take this path, we need to trash the award, which is a "religious" experience in journalism. Tear down their sacred jewels.
Posted by: Orson at August 05, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
++++
The Pulitzer Prize is indistinguishable from the Nobel Peace Prize: an insult that brings shame on your family.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (6bTRc)

183 It's not like the New York Times doesn't have a history in that regard. Back in 1931, Walter Duranty did a 12 story series on what a good egg Josef Stalin was, and won a Pulitzer. If they are going to take this path, we need to trash the award, which is a "religious" experience in journalism. Tear down their sacred jewels.
Posted by: Orson at August 05, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)

The Pulitzer is like an Oscar. A self award show, and worthless as a determination of objective value.

The mainstream news is going to die with a whimper. Do they even trigger stories or is it all Twitter and Press Releases?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (8avO+)

184 Which is almost word for word what Andrew Breitbart said about Teh Horde, if memory serves.

And where is he now?

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (Riz8t)

185 176 Soon. A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

But first, the local cops took turns too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

There needs to be a reckoning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (P7vXf)

Indeed. In England, it's not "Do it for the children", it's "Do it TO the children"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (ynpvh)

186 I read that Bill Barr was on the phone with Vicki Weaver
telling her she and her family would wind up dead when the fatal sniper round went off and took her life while she was holding her infant child.

Also see Waco.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (/U5Yz)

187 Journalism is literally writing in your diary. It has nothing to do with news of any sort.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (8avO+)

188 It doesn't take much of a translation engine to figure out what he means. Journalism isn't about facts and events, it's about "contextualizing" those facts and events, and as such is ideological performance art.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (6bTRc)
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Yep. Context matters, but who gets to decide the context? THEY do, of course!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (7fElN)

189 12 I'm old enough to remember when CBS and BBC were the gold standard of news. Something changed.

Either I realized they were lying or they started lying and I noticed.
Posted by: DanMan at August 05, 2025 04:44 PM (8uzBS)
________
I'm old enough to be sure its the former. They were lying all the time.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (od0dV)

190 It's not like the New York Times doesn't have a history in that regard. Back in 1931, Walter Duranty did a 12 story series on what a good egg Josef Stalin was, and won a Pulitzer. If they are going to take this path, we need to trash the award, which is a "religious" experience in journalism. Tear down their sacred jewels.
Posted by: Orson at August 05, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)

IIRC Life Magazine did a rather fawning spread about Hitler.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (64qRd)

191 I keep inadvertently sucking cocks!

Posted by: Terry Moran at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (9FEtL)

192
"Regular people can commit acts of journalism," said Patrick Ferrucci, chair of the Department of Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. "They can disseminate important information, and that's great.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

==============

The condescension here. "Even retards can accurately state that there's a mouse in the kitchen -- and we should give them a pat on the back for it, we need to know about that mouse!"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (n7rxJ)

193 what is an OF?
Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 05:06
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Only Fans account?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (X7zFE)

194 Yep. Context matters, but who gets to decide the context? THEY do, of course!

I'm old enough to remember that twat at Newsweek who said they were "the deciders".

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (Riz8t)

195 I saw Gay Handbag Model open for The Poodles at CBGB's 88'

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (VPPG8)

196 I read that Bill Barr was on the phone with Vicki Weaver
telling her she and her family would wind up dead when the fatal sniper round went off and took her life while she was holding her infant child.

Also see Waco.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (/U5Yz)

Well he should know, they wanted to kill her first. They somehow credited her with being the driver of the whatever they thought they were up to.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (8avO+)

197 This blonde and her dog have nothing but the deepest contempt for the press:
http://tiny.cc/ktsq001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (6bTRc)

198 191 I keep inadvertently sucking cocks!

Posted by: Terry Moran at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (9FEtL)

https://youtu.be/Zd8vzIRQLLM

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:11 PM (ynpvh)

199 Gambling, shocked, casino.
Some assembly required.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at August 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P0m9n)

200 198 191 I keep inadvertently sucking cocks!

Posted by: Terry Moran at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (9FEtL)

https://youtu.be/Zd8vzIRQLLM

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:11 PM (ynpvh)

Inadvertently.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:11 PM (ynpvh)

201 I keep inadvertently sucking cocks!
Posted by: Terry Moran at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (9FEtL)

Don't be shy, fwend!

Posted by: Barney Frank, sucker of all the cocks at August 05, 2025 05:11 PM (P7vXf)

202 "Regular people can commit acts of journalism," said Patrick Ferrucci, chair of the Department of Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. "They can disseminate important information, and that's great.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

==============

The condescension here. "Even retards can accurately state that there's a mouse in the kitchen -- and we should give them a pat on the back for it, we need to know about that mouse!"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (n7rxJ)

And not even from a journalist...a uni flack teaching Journalism. And a administrator at that.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)

203 Some 18 year old chick made $1 Million in 3 hours.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (Np7+P)

204 The Pulitzer is like an Oscar. A self award show, and worthless as a determination of objective value.

The mainstream news is going to die with a whimper. Do they even trigger stories or is it all Twitter and Press Releases?
Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (8avO+)
___________________________________

That's how you and I see it. But, that's not how the indoctrinated journalists see it. Here's an opportunity to sh*t on their Corn Flakes. If nothing else, it would infuriate them, and take away their "Holy Grail" while lessening its value in the process in EVERYONE'S eyes.

(disclaim, I am a spiteful and vindictive moron)

Posted by: Orson at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (dIske)

205 The Pulitzer.
Laughter, ridicule, derision.
Make it suck.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (W/lyH)

206 197 This blonde and her dog have nothing but the deepest contempt for the press:
http://tiny.cc/ktsq001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Ooo. She looks like Sydney Sweeney's older sister.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (/U5Yz)

207 Barney Frank,

That's a blast from the past.. When I hear his name I think of Rush Limbaugh and the parody song "Banking Queen. "

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (VE6XX)

208 His mom inadvertantly slept with the entire football team, in one night!

Personally, I haven't watched MSM 'News' in decades because it was all bullshit and I ran out of fvcks to give.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (tykPk)

209 A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

But first, the local cops took turns too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

There needs to be a reckoning.
---------

They gave up their guns, then their knives, and then their *will*.

Posted by: Crusader at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (TN0g+)

210 The Pulitzers have become, more or less, a left wing orgasmic mutual masturbation bathhouse.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (9vYpt)

211 202 "Regular people can commit acts of journalism," said Patrick Ferrucci, chair of the Department of Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. "They can disseminate important information, and that's great.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

==============

The condescension here. "Even retards can accurately state that there's a mouse in the kitchen -- and we should give them a pat on the back for it, we need to know about that mouse!"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 05:10 PM (n7rxJ)

And not even from a journalist...a uni flack teaching Journalism. And a administrator at that.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)

Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)

212 Flash Email Traffic: Pizza Hut Personal Pan Pizza $2 Today

Limit 4.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (jc0TO)

213 not so much out of malevolent bias (that's the cartoon version peddled by Trump, Brendan Carr and online MAGA)

Dude doesn't even see his bias in that language. Crazy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (rvwwT)

214 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)
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Roughly equal to that of the School of Education. Always the dumbest students on campus, without exception.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (6bTRc)

215
Somehow the 5th season of The Wire comes to mind, where the editors at the Baltimore Sun know damned well that their reporter is pulling stories out of his ass, but they're pushing him for a Pulitzer regardless.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (y9nCu)

216 210 The Pulitzers have become, more or less, a left wing orgasmic mutual masturbation bathhouse.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (9vYpt)

Do they have glory holes at the awards ceremony?

Posted by: Don Lemon at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (ynpvh)

217
he Department of Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder.

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Why is there even a Department of Journalism anywhere? At most, it should be an A.A. or a Certificate where you can learn things like how to operate a camera, basic interviewing techniques like when to cut someone off if they're rambling, video editing software, etc.

It should be like Technical Writing, ad writing, all that stuff out there that you mostly learn on the job.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (n7rxJ)

218 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)

Prob subpar.

Modern journalism isn't about reporting. It's about being the pretty face on TV reading a script.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (64qRd)

219 IIRC Life Magazine did a rather fawning spread about Hitler.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:09 PM (64qRd)

Socialism was all the thing among the intelligencia. Mussolini made the trains run on time, Germans were 'efficient', Russians were the wave of the future so they had to re-invent Potemkin villages to hide the truth.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (8avO+)

220 185 176 Soon. A couple of "migrants" raped a preteen in England, and the local cops told the media not to report it, because it would "raise community tensions".
Posted by: The ARC of History!

But first, the local cops took turns too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

There needs to be a reckoning.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2025 05:07 PM (P7vXf)

Indeed. In England, it's not "Do it for the children", it's "Do it TO the children"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM (ynpvh)

Lie back, and think of Pakistan.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2025 05:15 PM (9FEtL)

221 Some 18 year old chick made $1 Million in 3 hours.
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (Np7+P)

From what I read shes a Chinese-Canadian / American.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 05:15 PM (01jAz)

222 214 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)
++++
Roughly equal to that of the School of Education. Always the dumbest students on campus, without exception.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (6bTRc)

So the short school bus...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:15 PM (ynpvh)

223 My very Irish grandfather always said every Irishman with any sense was gone by 1900.

Posted by: From about That Tim at August 05, 2025 05:15 PM (RE0lB)

224 I think many Journalism majors are just there to get their M.O.M degrees.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:16 PM (64qRd)

225 Which is almost word for word what Andrew Breitbart said about Teh Horde, if memory serves.

And where is he now?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM

What are you suggesting?

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 05:16 PM (jc0TO)

226 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)

Prob subpar.

Modern journalism isn't about reporting. It's about being the pretty face on TV reading a script.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (64qRd)

When I was in college it was like the Yearbook Club in high school. In the hierarchy, above Agriculture or Elementary Education, but not a lot.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:16 PM (8avO+)

227 Which is almost word for word what Andrew Breitbart said about Teh Horde, if memory serves.

And where is he now?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM

What are you suggesting?

Just a joke in bad taste.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:16 PM (Riz8t)

228 Disgraced fired former journalist day already?

And I still have my disgraced former FBI Chief decorations up!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (qlT7I)

229 Socialist Communist Zohran Mamdani is now predicted to win Mayor of New York by 81.3% per Polymarket

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (/U5Yz)

230 They’re biased against religious Jews too, in part because such Jews are generally conservative but also because they generally support Israel. And even a lot of leftwing Jews think religious Jews — especially Hasidim — are weird and creepy.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (aA2YB)

231 You probably shouldn't quote that guy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (Np7+P)

232 He got on to Twitter, fortified, most believe, with a disinhibitory dose of alcohol, and proclaimed key Trump advisor Stephen Miller a Nazi.

---------------

Jews make the worst Nazis!

/Dennis Prager has also been defamed and been called a Nazi, natch -- a man who wrote an influential book on anti-Semitism called "Why the Jews?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (oru+N)

233 The US trade gap with China is the lowest in 21 years, apparently because PRC consumer imports into the US have dropped significantly.

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (rj6Yv)

234 Ok, time for me to sign off and not watch the news.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (64qRd)

235 I inadvertently played serial grabass last night with a whole lot of fine ladies down at the Club.

Posted by: Cooter Brown, Flyin' High at August 05, 2025 05:17 PM (G5+As)

236 Some 18 year old chick made $1 Million in 3 hours.
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (Np7+P)

Well...to be fair. Not everyone can turn themselves inside out while dancing the Charleston.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 05, 2025 05:18 PM (iJfKG)

237 218 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)

Prob subpar.

Modern journalism isn't about reporting. It's about being the pretty face on TV reading a script.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 05, 2025 05:14 PM (64qRd)

https://youtu.be/D1xmXn7gLVg

...
♪We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde, comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry♫

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:19 PM (ynpvh)

238 The MSM has become nothing but a tool. Along with the social media networks their only value is to try and propagandize the public enough to move them in a certain direction. They had nothing choice. As you noted above Ace, they were transformed somewhat unknowingly at first into an intelligence agency tool. Then once it was too late, they folded and agreed to go along with the game not just because it suited their political biases, but also because they were told who was signing the checks. The agencies have constantly waged war against independent reporting because they cannot control most of those actors as they report the truth and inconvenient facts. Some of that is being shut down under the current administration but I would warn people a lot of it is just laying low until the current administration and the scrutiny winds back. Democrats, by the way, have unzipped their fly and shown they are the treasonous party of dictators and rebellion and the MSM is simply their Media Division.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 05, 2025 05:19 PM (Srgb9)

239 Some 18 year old chick made $1 Million in 3 hours.
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (Np7+P)

From what I read shes a Chinese-Canadian / American.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 05:15 PM (01jAz)

I have a feeling that a lot of these stories are due to money laundering. Pimps have been around as long as prostitutes, and the girls aren't the ones who get most of the money. It is trivial to fake up customers, have one 'pay' another and 'donate' somewhere else.

then they encourage the girls to do more things for more money IRL.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:20 PM (8avO+)

240 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)
++++
Roughly equal to that of the School of Education. Always the dumbest students on campus, without exception.

-------

Don't forget about us!

Posted by: Hotel & Restaurant Management Majors at August 05, 2025 05:20 PM (TN0g+)

241 This was yesterday.

>>@WesternLensman

NEW: NBC “News” segment on DOJ opening of Russiagate grand jury probe.

The “reporter” apprises the viewer that:

- Russiagate is a distraction
- All Gabbard’s claims are unsubstantiated
- *RE-EMPHASIZES* There is zero evidence to back up claims
- It’s all politically motivated
- Trump just wants to attack his political foes

That’s the entire “report."

The level of deceptive propaganda here is on par with what legacy media did when running the original hoax.

And everyone understands why.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 05:20 PM (viF8m)

242 How can you be inadvertently biased against someone ? What a stupid phrase.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:22 PM (2GCMq)

243 Some of that is being shut down under the current administration but I would warn people a lot of it is just laying low until the current administration and the scrutiny winds back. Democrats, by the way, have unzipped their fly and shown they are the treasonous party of dictators and rebellion and the MSM is simply their Media Division.
Posted by: Vengeance at August 05, 2025 05:19 PM (Srgb9)

Laying low just means the impression of power dissipates. 90 percent of the power of the Dems was the fear of the MSM trashing you more than your average GOPer.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:22 PM (8avO+)

244 It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry♫
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:19 PM (ynpvh)

My point is: if they made a rule that all newsreader had to be both female and a D or above, they would make a mint and get all the ratings. It is like they are intentionally leaving money on the table.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s)

245 240 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)
++++
Roughly equal to that of the School of Education. Always the dumbest students on campus, without exception.

-------

Don't forget about us!

Posted by: Hotel & Restaurant Management Majors at August 05, 2025 05:20 PM (TN0g+)

Racists!

Posted by: DEI and LBGTQBBQ+ Studies at August 05, 2025 05:23 PM (ynpvh)

246 From what I read shes a Chinese-Canadian / American.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

What the heck?

Posted by: old chick at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (F3Dlr)

247 My point is: if they made a rule that all newsreader had to be both female and a D or above, they would make a mint and get all the ratings. It is like they are intentionally leaving money on the table.
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I've suggested the same for the WNBA.

Posted by: Crusader at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (TN0g+)

248 How can you be inadvertently biased against someone ? What a stupid phrase.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:22 PM (2GCMq)

well you can't expect a cue card reader to be good with words.

"unconscious bias" was what he was looking for.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (8avO+)

249 The MSM has become nothing but a tool. Along with the social media networks their only value is to try and propagandize the public enough to move them in a certain direction. ...
Posted by: Vengeance at August 05, 2025 05:19 PM (Srgb9)
++++
"Has become?" It *always* has been, since the first public sign ever posted, through to printing presses and the information superhighway. The press has always been in the propaganda business, and there was a time when it wore its biases proudly. There is a reason there are newspapers called "The Boomtown Democrat" or "The City Republican" and the like.

The problem is not press bias or deceit. That has been the norm since the press came to be. The problem is the universal alignment in the same direction. You can't pick up six different newspapers and get six different pieces of lies and spin to try to suss out reality. You pick up *any* newspaper and get the *same* lies and spin.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (6bTRc)

250 244 It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry♫
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:19 PM (ynpvh)

My point is: if they made a rule that all newsreader had to be both female and a D or above, they would make a mint and get all the ratings. It is like they are intentionally leaving money on the table.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 05:22 PM (zZu0s)

So, like using Mexican weathergirls?

Posted by: DEI and LBGTQBBQ+ Studies at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (ynpvh)

251 If MSM hacks were honest the would start dressing like whores and hookers. Or they could upgrade themselves and dress like Mexican weather babes.

https://youtu.be/u0g99khjVGw

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 05:25 PM (9vYpt)

252 Your cartoonish apparently if you say they are purposely biased :0

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (rvwwT)

253 "Unconscious" Uhh hun.I would have a smidgen more respect for these people if they would just admit their obvious bias.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (2GCMq)

254 At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (Vmn5q)
---
Never. If a white male is the perp, never.
Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (krQz2)

Local news, at least, has to report on local crime or they'd have nothing to report on. The bonus is, they can then do a follow-up story of some street corner preacher organizing a sparcely-attended rally to Stop the Violence.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (MZ+PY)

255 FTR, I don't think I ever called you a troll or a traitor about this topic.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (Riz8t)

I don't think you did. We mostly argued over DeSantis and Trump.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (jRYyy)

256 One of my nephew's daughters (grand-niece?) got a degree in journalism (or something close) and now serves coffee. Thanks to the mother (mostly, two prof parents) they are a "Biden Family".

Not sure there is a niche blog market for leftist Christians, but maybe ... if done to appeal to some certain segment.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (vbXSk)

257 Discussing Greg Abbott and the Fleebaggers, CNN genius Kasie Hunt asks, "Does the governor have a leg to stand on here?"

https://tinyurl.com/y2wxc3ky

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (paSBy)

258 Naked News.

Posted by: The program with nothing to hide! at August 05, 2025 05:27 PM (jiit1)

259 Some 18 year old chick made $1 Million in 3 hours.
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 05, 2025 05:12 PM (Np7+P)

From what I read shes a Chinese-Canadian / American.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at August 05, 2025 05:15 PM (01jAz)

I have a feeling that a lot of these stories are due to money laundering. Pimps have been around as long as prostitutes, and the girls aren't the ones who get most of the money. It is trivial to fake up customers, have one 'pay' another and 'donate' somewhere else.

then they encourage the girls to do more things for more money IRL.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:20 PM (8avO+)
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This. It’s all fake and gay until someone shows tax returns. They never ever do.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at August 05, 2025 05:27 PM (aA2YB)

260 My point is: if they made a rule that all newsreader had to be both female and a D or above,
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 05:22 PM

Well, B *is* above D, both alphabetically and chromatically.

Posted by: Megyn at August 05, 2025 05:27 PM (0sNs1)

261 Prostitutes, actors, news readers, presenters, influencers.

Posted by: Eromero at August 05, 2025 05:27 PM (LHPAg)

262 Your cartoonish apparently if you say they are purposely biased :0
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (rvwwT)

He's trying for a victimhood credit, with bait of an admission of bias. But the problem is that is saying you spent 50 years lying for the cause of at best 25 percent of your viewers.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:28 PM (8avO+)

263 Posted by: Hotel & Restaurant Management Majors at August 05, 2025

Why would Hotel and Restaurant Mgmt people be stupid? I would think you would have to have some saavy about marketing and presentation and business to be in that field.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:29 PM (2GCMq)

264 The Russia conspiracy is a perfect example. The media hide it. They still are not reporting the facts. But most of what they released is all online for anyone to read. The problem is that people don’t read it. They are not making unsubstantiated claims. They are material facts backed up by written material.

They tried to undermine the country and our entire democratic system. I don’t think people appreciate how incredibly dangerous that is- or they don’t care. Because their efforts basically created an extra constitutional dictatorship that was formed by subverting the constitution, using the government as a weapon against the people and undermining the election process to help install their figurehead. You might hope that after the Democrats and their media friends weaponized COVID to undermine and outright trample your civil rights and the constitution, people would understand this isn’t about political parties. It’s about the survival of our country as we know it.

Posted by: Vengeance at August 05, 2025 05:29 PM (dDxw5)

265 So, like using Mexican weathergirls?
Posted by: DEI and LBGTQBBQ+ Studies at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM

Mmmm....Yanet Garcia....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2025 05:29 PM (Wnv9h)

266 161 At what point do news orgs just stop reporting on crime altogether?

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 04:54 PM (Vmn5q)
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Never. If a white male is the perp, never.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 05:04 PM (krQz2)

Or possibly one.

Posted by: DEI and LBGTQBBQ+ Studies at August 05, 2025 05:30 PM (ynpvh)

267 >>>Ireland has had a rash of "migrants" attacking native Irish recently.

And the Irish put up with it far more meekly than they ever did from an Englishman.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 05, 2025 05:31 PM (CwhoI)

268 Not sure there is a niche blog market for leftist Christians, but maybe ... if done to appeal to some certain segment.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 05:26 PM (vbXSk)

Most left groups for centuries have been atheistic at the core since the state was allied to the established religion.
This is how anti Christian, anti Jewish operations creep into even something like the FBI which should be occupied by secular crimes rather than invent dissident groups.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:32 PM (8avO+)

269 >> Gay Handbag Model David Muir

😂🤣 don’t ever stop the cruelty ace!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 05, 2025 05:32 PM (ANuwa)

270 > All groups are entitled to have a seat at the news table and have their concerns heard, except for the two groups the communists actually despise with genocidal passion, conservatives and Christians.
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And, the left wants to kill us. All of us. They've declared war. We just, for whatever reason(s) won't acknowledge it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2025 05:33 PM (Q4IgG)

271 When God made the Irish
He didn't make much
But he sure made 'em better
Than the gottdamm Dutch

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 05, 2025 05:34 PM (wBaIH)

272 We admit we attacked Pearl Harbor, but it was really quite inadvertent.

Posted by: Empire of Japan at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (wP4FL)

273 All groups are entitled to have a seat at the news table and have their concerns heard, except for the two groups the communists actually despise with genocidal passion, conservatives and Christians.
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And, the left wants to kill us. All of us. They've declared war. We just, for whatever reason(s) won't acknowledge it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2025 05:33 PM (Q4IgG)

Don't take it personally, the left wants to kill everything and their allies most of all. Even People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals kills everything they get their hands on. It's their nature.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (8avO+)

274 "unconscious bias" was what he was looking for.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (8avO+)
This is a particular DEI term aimed at straight white males in struggle sessions.

Posted by: Eromero at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (LHPAg)

275 Last rat I trapped was a shrew. She wasn't going for the peanut butter and that's when I knew it wasn't a mouse, and I had to change my tactics. I figured out where she liked to run and grabbed her with a sticky-pad. Booyah!

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (9bq/n)

276
Hot patootie,
bless my soul.
I really love
that rock-n-roll!

Posted by: Eddie at August 05, 2025 05:36 PM (0sNs1)

277 Right Moran. And when you danced that slot dance with Buttigieg, your dick got hard...indavterntly.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 05, 2025 05:37 PM (W/lyH)

278 Nood.

Posted by: Flyguy at August 05, 2025 05:37 PM (VkUE7)

279 Which is almost word for word what Andrew Breitbart said about Teh Horde, if memory serves.

And where is he now?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:08 PM

What are you suggesting?

Just a joke in bad taste.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 05:16 PM

*mops brow*

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 05:38 PM (jc0TO)

280 263 Posted by: Hotel & Restaurant Management Majors at August 05, 2025

Why would Hotel and Restaurant Mgmt people be stupid? I would think you would have to have some saavy about marketing and presentation and business to be in that field.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:29 PM (2GCMq)
Maybe. Until they take a knee and kiss the butt of the DEI god.

Posted by: Eromero at August 05, 2025 05:38 PM (LHPAg)

281 Posted by: Hotel & Restaurant Management Majors at August 05, 2025

Why would Hotel and Restaurant Mgmt people be stupid? I would think you would have to have some saavy about marketing and presentation and business to be in that field.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:29 PM (2GCMq)

Probably more the fact it is too 'Vocational' for the taste of most colleges. One of the most popular graffiti in the Engineering School was putting "Liberal Arts Degrees' and an arrow to the roll of toilet paper in a stall.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:38 PM (8avO+)

282 272 We admit we attacked Pearl Harbor, but it was really quite inadvertent.

Posted by: Empire of Japan at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (wP4FL)

Killing all those Ukranians back in the 1933 was inadvertent.

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at August 05, 2025 05:38 PM (ynpvh)

283 "Inadvertent" = "No Intent"

Posted by: davidt at August 05, 2025 05:39 PM (i0F8b)

284 Chinese-Canadian / American

Seriously, is that how people are described now?
She was born or is of Chinese heritage, she was born or lived in Canada, she was born or lived in USA?

If she moves to Mexico do we add Mexican to her statistics?

Posted by: old chick at August 05, 2025 05:39 PM (F3Dlr)

285 "unconscious bias" was what he was looking for.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:24 PM (8avO+)
This is a particular DEI term aimed at straight white males in struggle sessions.
Posted by: Eromero at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (LHPAg)

or 'systematic bias'

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:39 PM (8avO+)

286 Nood

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 05, 2025 05:40 PM (pIfcn)

287
(disclaim, I am a spiteful and vindictive moron)

Posted by: Orson

How doth an interested party subscribe to thine periodical screeds?

Posted by: BifBewalski - at August 05, 2025 05:41 PM (QcUc+)

288 We admit we attacked Pearl Harbor, but it was really quite inadvertent.

Posted by: Empire of Japan at August 05, 2025 05:35 PM (wP4FL)

Killing all those Ukranians back in the 1933 was inadvertent.
Posted by: Joseph Stalin at August 05, 2025 05:38 PM (ynpvh)

Well once they took the food away they tended to die on their own.

When they purged the army or each other, they had to fetch them and shoot them in the head in truckloads.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 05, 2025 05:41 PM (8avO+)

289 I think Trump should periodically literally look down on the "Urinalists" .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:45 PM (2GCMq)

290 Oops. Wrong thread

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2025 05:45 PM (2GCMq)

291 Its almost as if ABC is looking to lose all of their broadcast licenses.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 04:58 PM (/U5Yz)

At this point it wouldn't make much difference. Most OTA stations also feed the cable head ends via fiber. They also feed Direct TV as we did. We began doing that over 20 years ago. Our transmitter would dump (at Empire) and many people had no idea. Their signal was uninterrupted.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 05, 2025 05:46 PM (5xuJ/)

292 Well, at least David Muir has an alternative employment opportunity, do you think the "men's" branch at Louis Vuitton is hiring?

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 05:47 PM (Da7Vv)

293 Why would Hotel and Restaurant Mgmt people be stupid? I would think you would have to have some saavy about marketing and presentation and business to be in that field.
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It's not so much about THEM being stupid, but about the coursework being non-demanding. It was so well-known back in the 90s that it was a SNL "answer" in a fake-Jeopardy skit.

Posted by: Crusader at August 05, 2025 05:48 PM (TN0g+)

294 240 Wonder what the average IQ is at journalism schools...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 05:13 PM (ynpvh)
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Roughly equal to that of the School of Education. Always the dumbest students on campus, without exception.
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Don't forget about us!
Posted by: Hotel & Restaurant Management Majors

Hey, at least they can cook and book you a room!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at August 05, 2025 05:59 PM (pzV54)

295 - Don't you all realize these journalists are true patriots?
They are, after all, working for the Clowns.

Posted by: TeeJ at August 05, 2025 06:15 PM (jocM1)

296 I thought hotels just hired people off the street.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 06:28 PM (jc0TO)

297 The myth about Walter Cronkite needs a stake in the heart. When he was told George McGovern, up to that point the most liberal of any Democrat candidate for president, said he thought about giving Uncle Water the VP spot, Cronkite said, "I would have accepted in a New York minute."

Posted by: Jerry Carroll at August 05, 2025 08:27 PM (RRQTN)

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