Bill and Hillary Clinton, James Comey and Robert Mueller All Subpoenaed for Testimony About Their Dealings with and/or Knowlege About Jeffrey Epstein

House Republicans subpoenaed nearly a dozen former federal officials and politicians -- including Bill and Hillary Clinton -- as well as records from the Department of Justice on Tuesday amid an expanding probe into the deceased pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
The officials -- including former FBI Directors James Comey and Robert Mueller as well as six ex-US attorneys general -- were compelled to testify before the House Oversight Committee.
Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) announced the move less than two weeks after DOJ officials interviewed Epstein's late accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year sentence in a federal prison for conspiring to sexually abuse young girls.

Are Trump and the GOP repairing the damage caused by Epstein foot-dragging? I don't know, I wasn't that upset about it in the first place. I can't say if these moves appease the people most concerned about a "cover-up."

New York Magazine is whining that the Democrat Party's EpsteinGate attack on Trump isn't working.

It has become an iron tenet of contemporary politics that developments that would massively affect the standing in public opinion of most politicians have little or no effect, positively or negatively, on Donald Trump. He's the most galvanizing public figure in living memory, and his vast history of controversy and scandal appear to have made him as impervious to breaking news as a cockroach is impervious to radiation.
And as Nate Silver explains after looking at every bit of available public-opinion research, there just isn't much specific evidence that the Epstein files scandal and cover-up are moving the numbers. Indeed, when it comes to the more specific claim that the "crisis" over Epstein is wreaking havoc in Trump's MAGA base, the evidence suggests strongly otherwise...
Because heavy Epstein coverage is displacing other damaging-to-Trump stories, Nate is skeptical that more incessant coverage will start hurting Trump...

Nate Silver thinks the whole story may be remembered much like Russiagate, an obsessive elite liberal preoccupation that appeared to make voters simply confirm whatever they thought about Trump before. We have no way of knowing that until the loose threads are all tracked down and this chapter of the Epstein story has a beginning, a middle, and, at long last, an end.

Ed Morrissey floats the speculation that Ghislaine Maxwell told prosecutors about Bill and Hillary's trips to Pedo Island.

A Trump prosecutor spoke with Maxwell, and the DOJ is considering releasing a transcript. And then the GOP subpeonas the Clintons.

To be honest, I don't think that proves much of anything. The GOP is famous for subpoenas and Strongly Written Letters.

But, Trump's DOJ did move Maxwell from a bad prison to a better prison. Which is obviously something the state does when it likes your testimony.

Clearly, Maxwell told Blanche and investigators something that interested them. The move to a lower-security work camp clearly indicates a level of fruitful cooperation, although how reliable it might be would be another question entirely...
The sudden interest in the Clintons and other "top law enforcement officials" by the House Oversight Committee has to raise eyebrows, too. Subpoenaing a former president and a former presidential nominee for congressional testimony is unusual, to say the least, and it's not something done lightly as a fishing expedition. Coming as it does on the heels of the Maxwell interview, her transfer, and the suggestion that the Trump administration may make the Maxwell transcript public, it's extremely difficult to chalk all of this up as a coincidence.

Lee Smith, author of The Plot Against the President -- which I recently wrongly referred to as "The Hunting of the President," which I think was a book by a leftwing Bill Clinton Apologist -- warns the GOP to not buy into "EpsteinGate," which he says is just "RussiaGate 2.0."

And by "EpsteinGate" he means the claims by the left that Trump is "covering up" his dealings with Jeffrey Epstein.

Except that this time, EpsteinGate is calling from inside the house.

Perhaps the most senior former Obama official pushing Epsteingate is Susan Rice, the onetime national security adviser whose Jan. 5, 2017, email may implicate Obama in the anti-Trump conspiracy. In an X post over a New York Times op-ed by Brennan and Obama's director of national intelligence, James Clapper, she wrote that the Trump administration's Russiagate disclosures are a "shameless, dishonest, defamatory scheme to distract from EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN."
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The media has a substantial corporate interest in obfuscating the Trump administration's efforts to bring Russiagate to light, since it may also illuminate the role of the press in publishing leaks of classified intelligence to advance known falsehoods undergirding a criminal conspiracy. The specter of civil suits alone is enough to keep media executives up at night. And thus, according to The New York Times, the administration's release of documents showing the FBI supported a 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign plot to smear the president as a Russian agent comes "as the Trump team seeks to distract from the Jeffrey Epstein files."
The president says Democrats started what he calls the Epstein hoax, but that's not entirely right. They're using it to defend themselves from Russiagate, but it was a MAGA-aligned cohort led by Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon who weaponized the Epstein narrative, and now parts of the right are as giddy with anti-Trump animus as first-term Never Trumpers are.
"This Epstein thing is probably going to bring President Trump down," said Douglas Macgregor, a prominent figure on the MAGA podcast circuit who worked in the Pentagon during Trump's first term. The problem then isn't just that Russiagate revelations aren't breaking through to the rest of the electorate but also that podcasters ostensibly aligned with Trump are employing the ghost of a dead sex offender to fracture his base and hobble him, with help from Democrats, after the 2026 midterms, just as Russiagate hobbled Trump's first term.
After Trump ignored Bannon and Carlson's warnings against joining Israel in a campaign against Iran's nuclear weapons facilities, they seized on the White House's clumsy rollout of the Epstein case to target the president.
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The problem is that nothing the administration produces now will satisfy this faction of MAGA, because Bannon and Carlson are not interested in transparency or accountability. Rather, they've rigged the Epstein story to damage Trump. In their telling, Epstein wasn't just a predator; he was also a spy, an operative using American teenagers as bait to compromise powerful liberal elites on behalf of the Mossad. They've framed the affair so that only confirmation of their mad conspiracy theory will put Epstein's ghost to rest.
"It's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that [Epstein] had direct connections to a foreign government," Carlson told a Florida audience last month in one of his most public perorations unfolding the Epstein conspiracy theory. "No one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty." Bannon is also given to manful straight talk: "The Epstein story leads to the intelligence services of this country and of Israel," he told his podcast audience last month. "Let's be blunt. That's why all the Israel First guys say there's nothing to see."
The logic is that if Trump doesn't release the evidence that he's shielding Israel, it's evidence that he's owned by Israel. The setup is as crazy and destructive as Russiagate because it's the Russiagate playbook, except in this reboot, Netanyahu plays Putin's part, and it's not Moscow that controls Trump's brain, but the Jews.
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For Bannon and Carlson, Epsteingate is part of a larger effort to drive down support for Israel among younger Trump voters. After all, if the Israeli government violated U.S. sovereignty to traffic girls and steal American secrets, it can't be a good ally. Maybe GOP youth want to believe in an American version of an Arab-world style legend--look out for the Mossad dolphins!--to distinguish themselves from the traditionally pro-Israel GOP establishment. But Bannon and Carlson's gambit also puts them at odds with the president while aligning them with the party that pushed the Russia collusion hoax.

Russiagate was, among other things, an instrument devised to block Trump's foreign policy, limiting his choices on how to deal not only with Russia but also--indeed, most importantly--with China. Instead of prioritizing China, which Trump has always believed is the main threat to U.S. peace and prosperity, he ended up having to spend much of his first term worrying about the domestic effects of any policy that was remotely related to Russia. Similarly, Epsteingate is also a foreign-policy instrument. When understood this way, it's hard to ignore that Carlson and Bannon are in alignment with Democratic foreign policy--that is, Obama's policy.

Tucker Carlson claims he's not antisemitic, just "America First," and just wants America to priortize its own interests, which do not, in his telling, include supporting Israel as it fights the same Islamic terrorist forces that attacked America on 9/11.

But this lie is exposed by his constant demands that Israel surrender to Hamas and end the "genocide." America is not helping Israel fight Hamas -- but Tucker Carlson is determined to use American foreign policy power to force Israel to surrender to Hamas.

If he's just "America First," why is he so determined to use American power to interfere in a foreign war? Why doesn't he just shut his big yap and do what he claims he wants America to do, and stay out of it?

Simple: Because he's virulently anti-Israel and has found a new audience appealing to the pseudo-right which itself has embraced the left's unreasoning anti-Jewish hatred.

As we said a million times about left-wing agitators who only criticize decent states when they fight back against Islamic terrorists, but never had a single word of rebuke for the terrorists themselves: They're not "anti-war," they're just on the other side.

A correspondent points out that Steven Bannon spent fifteen hours interviewing Jeffrey Epstein -- and he> hasn't released that information.

Bannon appears to be the originator of the Epstein-as-spy theory. After Trump's onetime strategist was pushed out of the White House in 2017, he started meeting with Epstein at his Manhattan mansion, and reportedly, according to people close to him, he thought his host worked with intelligence services. He recorded 15 hours of interviews with the financier, ostensibly to be used in helping to rehabilitate Epstein's reputation. That Bannon hasn't yet released that footage suggests that it contains no evidence to corroborate his allegations. Maybe he's embarrassed that he spent 15 hours interviewing Epstein and forgot to ask the man he now says was part of a Mossad spy ring if he was a spy. Or maybe he didn't ask him because he never believed what he's been telling people about Epstein since 2017.

I guess he's under the control of Big Hebrew now too.

Posted by: Ace at 02:19 PM

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1 Hope the mugshot was worth it!

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 02:20 PM (jRYyy)

2 Did not kill myself.

Posted by: Jeffstein at August 05, 2025 02:21 PM (2sMLA)

3 Did not nood.

What's all this then?

Posted by: eleven at August 05, 2025 02:22 PM (fV+MH)

4 Bannon and Tucker ? The plot thickens....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:23 PM (VE6XX)

5 FIRST WITH THE BLADF

Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 05, 2025 02:23 PM (iFTx/)

6 Funny how they had four years of a fake presidency to investigate Epstein, shed light on the entire thing, blow it wide open and even link him to Trump and well I guess they just forgot.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 02:23 PM (jRYyy)

7 Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2025 02:24 PM (QzINz)

8 Congressional Carnival.

A tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Posted by: Bill the Bard at August 05, 2025 02:24 PM (2sMLA)

9 Plead the Fifth!

Posted by: Operator Error at August 05, 2025 02:25 PM (mNUut)

10 I'm rooting for bruises, lumps and scrapes when these punks are arrested and dragged in front of Congress.

Does this make me a bad person?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 02:25 PM (tT6L1)

11

You could look at this as a rope-a-dope by Trump.

Pretty funny if true. Lure them into false security.

Ego-driven psychopaths.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 05, 2025 02:25 PM (et1vG)

12 mmm fresh coffee, good

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:25 PM (c35xG)

13 So these subpoenas overlap the Russia Russia Russia subpoenas then?

Meaning Hillary Clinton has just been served two separate subpoenas today?

Holy shit where is Smirnoff listed so I can buy all of their shares.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:26 PM (rIQZh)

14 Plead the Fifth!
Posted by: Operator Error

Drink the fifth!

Posted by: Hiclary at August 05, 2025 02:26 PM (2sMLA)

15 Steve Bannon is persona non grata now?

Posted by: Elric at August 05, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

16 9 Plead the Fifth!
Posted by: Operator Error at August
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At this time; What difference does it make?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:27 PM (c35xG)

17 I mean seriously the war in Ukraine will end because the world's strategic vodka reserves are about to run out.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:27 PM (rIQZh)

18 Elric: You got FIFTH. Somehow appropriate for this thread...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 02:27 PM (O7YUW)

19 >>7 Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?

I don't remember that but it does make perfect sense.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:27 PM (KRtlO)

20 >>Funny how they had four years of a fake presidency to investigate Epstein, shed light on the entire thing, blow it wide open and even link him to Trump and well I guess they just forgot.

The Party of "When they go high, we go low" was just looking out for the Country, yo.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2025 02:27 PM (L2IqH)

21 We all have Charlie Brown syndrome.

I'm guessing that doesn't change after this.

Lots of barking. Need some bite.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (cWNll)

22
String Hillary out on the murders of Americans and the head of state in Bengazi. Bitch

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (c35xG)

23 Holy shit where is Smirnoff listed so I can buy all of their shares.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:26 PM (rIQZh)

Son of a bitch, hordeminde.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (rIQZh)

24 I'm beginning to think the whole damn thing is a psyop to effectively blackpill an entire nation when, once again, absolutely nothing happens.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (QdGJh)

25 >>Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?

Epstein taught Schumer how to grill the Perfect Kosher Cheeseburger.

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (L2IqH)

26 YOU CAN'T SUBPOENA ME, I'M A WIDOW!!!

Posted by: Hillary! at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (ULPxl)

27 What differensh, at thish point, would it make? I wiped it, like, with a cloth.

Posted by: Hillary's Rotting Liver at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (m0WlR)

28 23 Holy shit where is Smirnoff listed so I can buy all of their shares.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:26 PM (rIQZh)

Son of a bitch, hordeminde.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:28 PM (rIQZh)

(Oh, for fuck's aches, that was me. Well, dammit. Everyone point and laugh.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:29 PM (rIQZh)

29 11- I've thought that for quite some time- get them screaming "Epstein!" then give it to them. ha

Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 05, 2025 02:29 PM (hlNLQ)

30 15 Steve Bannon is persona non grata now?
Posted by: Elric
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Bannon's got to keep the show rolling. However he did go to jail for Trump or was that to keep the show rolling too?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:30 PM (c35xG)

31 Laying down a marker: nothing will come of this.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at August 05, 2025 02:30 PM (V362x)

32 I'm thinking this deserves a flaming skull...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:30 PM (VE6XX)

33 ... his vast history of controversy and scandal appear to have made him as impervious to breaking news as a cockroach is impervious to radiation.
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Dang!
They make him sound like a super hero.

Posted by: Operator Error at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (mNUut)

34 Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?
Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2025 02:24 PM (QzINz)
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Everyone of any stature even remotely connected to NYC had a relationship with Epstein. He had all the right friends, went to all the right parties, got all the right invitations from all the right people. He was a major player in the high-end social scene. Probably a big political donor too. There are thousands of people on his "list."

Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

35 Two more weeks, guys! Two more weeks!!!!

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (sS5Fw)

36 This might be the reason that he let the Epstein thing brew in the press.

I saw in his previous term that he liked to stir interest with bombastic posts, and then the press would make mistakes in trying to paint him as *all* wrong.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (krQz2)

37 People love the idea of a singular lynchpin on which all of corruption hinges.

I remember people in these Grey boxes insisting that Biden was the central corruption figure in all of DC instead of what made more sense: the Bidens were one of thousands, near the top but still just part of a hydra.

One hit to the cyclops to blind him is easier to understand than a hydra that can't be actually killed.

That's to say...I assume Epstein was part of a huge machine, not integral to much but with enough hands in enough pies to be problematic.

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (Vmn5q)

38 En Fuego!

Posted by: that guy that shouts en feugo at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (jc0TO)

39 And now we come to the FO portion of our program, boys and girls.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (krQz2)

40 >>>32 I'm thinking this deserves a flaming skull...

eh, subpoenas are cheap as the paper they're printed on. I need indictments to get excited.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (KRtlO)

41 Subpoena? Testify? Quick, I need a stroke or something.

Posted by: Hillary! at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (wVcYX)

42 I caught part of a panel podcast which involved Tim Poole and some deranged leftists, Piska? who keep shouting over everyone about Epstein. Poole kept trying to reign the doofus in but he wouldn't calm down. The guy was seriously deranged.

Anyway, my point is, the left has a new obsession and, generally, when the left finds their shiny new TDS toy to obsess over, it seems to blow up in their faces.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (tT6L1)

43
eh, subpoenas are cheap as the paper they're printed on. I need indictments to get excited.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (KRtlO)

True, but this is getting interesting..

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (VE6XX)

44 Every attack on Trump prior to the election stopped.
Russia, Epstein, bank fraud, stolen documents, sex crimes all stopped.
Then, they ran Biden 2/3 of the way only to shoot him in the head and run an even worse person in his stead.
Butler, Pa. is the only event that makes sense.

Posted by: Accomack at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (tLPHV)

45 Moving Maxwell to a cushy Club Fed prison doesn't happen because she coughed up HRC cookie recipes. It isn't a big leap, now that the Clinton's have a sudden subpoena, to think Maxwell coughed up verifiable events, names, places and dates that could prove difficult, and how the Bill came to be painted in a blue dress painting that hung in the Epstein NYC townhouse.

Let me be the first to say, "Maxwell did not kill herself."

https://is.gd/FJIblE

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (9vYpt)

46 I'm thinking this deserves a flaming skull...

eh, subpoenas are cheap as the paper they're printed on. I need indictments to get excited.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (KRtlO)
______

There's a little blue pill that can help, you know

Posted by: Elric at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

47 >>>41 Subpoena? Testify? Quick, I need a stroke or something.

Have I got some good news for you!

Posted by: Uriel the Angel of Death at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (KRtlO)

48 when it comes to the more specific claim that the "crisis" over Epstein is wreaking havoc in Trump's MAGA base, the evidence suggests strongly otherwise...
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This - as they are admitting like they always do - was the point of the "scandal". A cincerted attempt to blow apart Trump II with something they could gloat about for the rest of the term.

To weaponize their own crimes with Epstein, and the high potential energy contained within it, into something they could dump completely on us.

The idea wasn't to take on Trump directly although that's part of it, but to split the base and weaken us at a time they can't attract anyone.

But... spoilers... Trump recognized the play and saw what they were doing and yanked the plug on it with targeted theatrics before they could get it going. And that's the only reason it didn't work.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (jRYyy)

49 Where do subpoenas rate vs rolled up sleeves and sternly worded letters???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (ULPxl)

50 32 I'm thinking this deserves a flaming skull...

= =

If a subpoena gets a flaming skull, can we get one for a strongly worded memo?

Posted by: Congressional Republicans at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (m0WlR)

51 It's really weird that the same people that told us it's no big deal that Maxwell was first person in history convicted of being a pimp without a single john being named, are suddenly trying to tell us the only alleged--against all evidence--client of Epstein we should discuss is Trump.

But if we just release the entire Epstein files, the media will--this time for sure!!--talk about the hundreds of Democrats who went to the island multiple times!

They'll be forced to, I just know it!

And if that's all the media ever focuses on, no matter how much evidence is already out there about Dems and Epstein, well that's too bad--I care about the victims and you don't!!!
I'm a good person and you are protecting pedos!!!
Release the Epstein files!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (NwfFc)

52 I do like the dramatic effect, unintended or otherwise, this might have.

"Epstein Epstein Epstein! We demand the truth about Epstein!"

"...OK then, fuckers. Why don't you all come down to my office and tell us everything you know."

"Buh! Buh! Wah?!?!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (rIQZh)

53 Since when does Trump has a vast history of scandal?

They guy is probably the most investigated person in US history and they found nothing.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (viF8m)

54 Comer doesn't have the nerve to question the Clintons publicly. They will eat him alive. Looking forward to it.

What the Hell information would Hilary Clinton have? She's never been named as having any association with Epstein and she was not in office when Epstein was first arrested. They just want to humiliate her.

I thought it was for their Russia hoax hoax thing they're doing? Oh I see. They are doing guilt by association.

No trump, or any “Guardian of Pedi’s.” Sounds about right for this shit of a hole country. Pres. Rapist is feeling the heat and wants to deflect attention from his own degeneracy onto meritless but colorful fiction.

I'm sure this is the plan. He will create an even bigger circus than he normally does and the media and his nut job followers will eat it up. He wants the biggest distraction possible from what he's doing to the country.

They're not all Democrats. The list includes Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions and Alberto Gonzales, and former FBI Directors James Comey and Robert Mueller - all Republicans.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (JCZqz)

55 I guess he's under the control of Big Hebrew now too.

Posted by: Ace at 02:19 PM

I mean, to be fair, those hot dogs aren't bad.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (Wnv9h)

56 *nervously whistles*

Posted by: John Roberts at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (E48G+)

57 53 Since when does Trump has a vast history of scandal?

They guy is probably the most investigated person in US history and they found nothing.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (viF8m)

That's not true! He overvalued some property.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (cWNll)

58 43
eh, subpoenas are cheap as the paper they're printed on. I need indictments to get excited.
Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:32 PM (KRtlO)

True, but this is getting interesting..
Posted by: It's me donna
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Step 2: Will they be held accountable when they don't show up for the subpoena?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (c35xG)

59 @25 - Pretty sure no one has ever used the phrase 'kosher cheeseburger' before. Except blasphemously.

Posted by: Nazdar at August 05, 2025 02:35 PM (NcvvS)

60 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (JCZq

Starting to panic are they...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:35 PM (VE6XX)

61 Big Hebrew >>> Big Goatfucker

Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 05, 2025 02:35 PM (iFTx/)

62 New York Magazine is whining that the Democrat Party's EpsteinGate attack on Trump isn't working.
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Because although it's not airtight, it is somewhat convincing that, with all the stuff they tried to spin out of nothing on Trump in his first term. If they had something, especially with him out of office, they would have released it.

I didn't rest on that, because, "Okay, I see that--I think that, but how conclusive is that speculation?"

Because it's somewhat an argument from silence.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:35 PM (krQz2)

63 >>> "This Epstein thing is probably going to bring President Trump down," said Douglas Macgregor

Then why didn’t they do it sometimes in the last four years instead of shooting him in the head?

Posted by: Operator Error at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (mNUut)

64 I thought Robert Mueller has dementia.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (kTd/k)

65 >>>I guess he's under the control of Big Hebrew now too.

ace finally gets it!

Posted by: Guy who only reads the last sentence of the posts at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (jGJov)

66 It is really disgusting, and saddening, how far gone Tucker has revealed himself to be. I had long thought he was one of the best - in fact, he's just another Trump hating loon. I will never watch or even acknowledge anything he does or says again. He and Candace and Nick Fuentes all deserve each other.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (uWKK8)

67 Bill Clinton's testimony will be something akin to "I just took those flights for the free snacks" or whatever the pedo island equivalent of "I didn't inhale" is...

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (sS5Fw)

68 Subpoenas can be ignored.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (cWNll)

69 I'm sure this is the plan. He will create an even bigger circus than he normally does and the media and his nut job followers will eat it up. He wants the biggest distraction possible from what he's doing to the country.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (JCZqz)
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I'm always fascinated by the "doing to the country" assertions made. Yet, it's always this rather vague and nebulous charge with no underlying specifics. Almost as if they don't need a truly concrete example to point to, because #orangmenanbad is good enough.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (tT6L1)

70 Lock all they asses up!

Posted by: Warden Norton at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (2q3zB)

71 >> did move Maxwell from a bad prison to a better prison.

How bad can a women's prison be?
I keep getting images in my head of pillow fights and cupcake parties.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (d0XKQ)

72 That's not true! He overvalued some property.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (cWNll)

IOW followed standard and time-honored NYC business practices.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (uWKK8)

73 That's not true! He overvalued some property.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (cWNll)
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It's funny because Hillary wrote off the entire Steele Dossier as "legal expenses", but his doing that about something we can't even be sure Cohen told him about was "fraud" in Trump's "34 felonies".

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:38 PM (krQz2)

74 Aren't subpoenas as legally binding as letters to Santa Claus?

What if they just ignore them?

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at August 05, 2025 02:38 PM (sS5Fw)

75 66 It is really disgusting, and saddening, how far gone Tucker has revealed himself to be. I had long thought he was one of the best - in fact, he's just another Trump hating loon. I will never watch or even acknowledge anything he does or says again. He and Candace and Nick Fuentes all deserve each other.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (uWKK

They've all got a demon. Jew hatred.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:38 PM (cWNll)

76 That's not true! He overvalued some property.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (cWNll)

IOW followed standard and time-honored NYC business practices.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (uWKK

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And the fraud part is if you didn't pay them back, I would think. But he paid his loans back every time.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:38 PM (krQz2)

77 30 15 Steve Bannon is persona non grata now?
Posted by: Elric
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Bannon's got to keep the show rolling. However he did go to jail for Trump or was that to keep the show rolling too?

Posted by: Braenyard

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When Bannon was released from jail I saw an interview where he was saying Trump was gonna go all shock and awe, so I assumed they were tight. So why the break up?

Posted by: haffhowershower at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (144I4)

78
They've all got a demon. Jew hatred.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:38 PM (cWNll)

And I don't know why ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (VE6XX)

79 Trump saw the play where they were going to split the base slowly through innuendo, planted stories, and a sea of fake "influencers" riling both "sides". It's been going on since February and likely before.

And so what did he do? He split it himself. Threw it out there and took the heat. He did the one thing they calculated he would never do. Crush his own ego and level part of his movement for the sake of the longer vision and promise. Banking on people coming back into the frame naturally.

Why did they think he would never do it? Because they don't know what it's like to have a spine of steel. They only know the mirror. And they think Trump only cares about the mirror. Dummies.

He is a genius. You will never see another like him. Ever.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (jRYyy)

80 In retrospect, Trump's biggest awkward move, threatening the press on their stupid Epstein persistence, that they should pay attention to move important things, was intentional chumming them onto the scent.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (c35xG)

81 70 Lock all they asses up!
Posted by: Warden Norton at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (2q3zB

And their chickens!!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (cWNll)

82 eh, subpoenas are cheap as the paper they're printed on. I need indictments to get excited.
Posted by: ace

You are right. However these SOBs have skated for years and making them have to lawyer up to deal with all this and then show up to testify - that is a good first step.

If there is a there there, and I believe there is, the more shit that gets stirred up the greater the chance somebody is going to pull a John Dean.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (9vYpt)

83 >>Subpoenas can be ignored.

Ironically, that's what Steve Bannon thought.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)

84 My personal opinion is that Trump dealt with Epstein like he did to get the donks all riled up. He pointed his laser pointer at Epstein and no release and the democrats jumped on the MUST RELEASE ALL EPSTEIN FILES band wagon. Now they are in Trump's trap. If I'm right, there is no way out of this trap for the donks.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (17s+e)

85 I’ll bet a whole bunch of people in DC are about to announce that they have cancer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (u73oe)

86 @28/Warai-otoko: "(Oh, for fuck's aches, that was me. Well, dammit. Everyone point and laugh.)"

Dude, we win! Take the W.

Posted by: Me, myself, and I at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (O7YUW)

87 Steve Bannon is persona non grata now?
--
What do you make of the fact that, despite going to prison to "protect" Trump, he's not been invited back in, formally or informally?

That's he's still just a crank with an audience on the internet?

Besides doing all he can to look like a paint-huffing hobo, just what is going on?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (NwfFc)

88 I think the Epstein shit is really a distraction from the bigger issue; the Russian Hoax. Had Trump been implicated in anything to do with p3do island it'd have come out prior to the election or shortly thereafter to discredit him and ramp up impeachment 3.0 or whatever number we're up to now.

There ARE probably a number of sketchy Republicans on whatever "list" there is. Republicans that, unfortunately are likely needed for various legislation and Trump initiatives to pass. If there's any shielding of people, that's probably it. The Democrats on the list can go horsefuck.

That being said, there are a number of hoax/coup participants that I have not seen mentioned... a lot of lower level bad actors who did the dirty work. I'd be rolling them up now and squeezing them hard to turn on the others.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (Q4IgG)

89 >> Tucker Carlson claims he's not antisemitic, just "America First," and just wants America to priortize its own interests, which do not, in his telling, include helping Israel fight the same Islamic terrorist forces that attacked America on 9/11.

I think you’re conflating a few things Ace. Hamas isn’t AQ or any of the umbrella groups. It is indeed a terror group who should be wiped out in my opinion. Nonetheless they had nothing to do with 9-11 other than they celebrated it.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (90TCz)

90 80 In retrospect, Trump's biggest awkward move, threatening the press on their stupid Epstein persistence, that they should pay attention to move important things, was intentional chumming them onto the scent.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:39 PM (c35xG)

I'm starting to suspect that Trump knew exactly what he was doing and needed the very press he lambasted to call for the very thing he wanted all along.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (cWNll)

91 Bollards don't fail me now!

Posted by: Hillary! at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (wVcYX)

92 Almost as if they don't need a truly concrete example to point to, because #orangmenanbad is good enough.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM (tT6L1)

#emmanuelgoldsteinbad

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (rIQZh)

93 Meaning Hillary Clinton has just been served two separate subpoenas today?

no, sadly, just the one re: Epstein

the NYT had quite the story on new related doc dumps btw

including a really deeply strange letter by Woody Allen in that "birthday book"

my feeling is ... all of this .. the Epstein stuff, the RussiaGate stuff .. will all hit at once. just a massive mess of Dem malfeasance, boom! all at the same time

can't ignore ALL of it (tho they'll try)

meanwhile a friend's kid goes to W&M and now just found out he's staying in a hotel bc SIX of their dorms have been under renovation and "something happened" with funding and they won't be done.

that's ... weird.

all kids of weird stuff is happening at colleges atm. but at least my good pal didn't get fired from UPenn yet, he's actually a fantastic professor (and on the down low R, like me)

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 02:41 PM (Pv3Rg)

94 I think you’re conflating a few things Ace. Hamas isn’t AQ or any of the umbrella groups. It is indeed a terror group who should be wiped out in my opinion. Nonetheless they had nothing to do with 9-11 other than they celebrated it.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (90TCz)

In the sense that it's all one big Ummah, though...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:41 PM (rIQZh)

95 83 >>Subpoenas can be ignored.

Ironically, that's what Steve Bannon thought.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM (viF8m)

I was just thinking that... All you need is an AG to pursue them.. I think we have one who just might do that... Elections have consequences don't you know...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:41 PM (VE6XX)

96 They're not all Democrats. The list includes Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions and Alberto Gonzales, and former FBI Directors James Comey and Robert Mueller - all Republicans.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2025 02:34 PM (JCZqz)
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Again, sanity at the DU is stunning when it shows itself.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:41 PM (krQz2)

97 If a subpoena gets a flaming skull, can we get one for a strongly worded memo?
Posted by: Congressional Republicans at August 05, 2025 02:33 PM (m0WlR)

Only if you have the platinum membership

Posted by: MAC V SOG at August 05, 2025 02:41 PM (P4Pk9)

98 I cancelled my TCN subscription this week. I initially subscribed as Tucker was touring the country for Trump. Some of his best stuff was delivered at those rallies. Since then, however, its been a steep decline into crap. Sad.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 05, 2025 02:42 PM (bNf8H)

99 "New York Magazine is whining that the Democrat Party's EpsteinGate attack on Trump isn't working"

Because 99% of every other attack on him turns out to be pure BS, the other 1% just a distortion if the truth.

Trump obviously had no problem attracting beautiful women including supermodels. Why would he go to Epstein island for for teenage girls? Seems unlikely, to say the least, to anybody paying attention.

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2025 02:42 PM (GUOwU)

100 >>Subpoenas can be ignored.

Ironically, that's what Steve Bannon thought.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:40 PM

Shame he forgot the "when my party controls the DoJ" part.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 05, 2025 02:42 PM (Wnv9h)

101 First, Ace stakes his professional reputation on the proposition that Brigitte Macron was NOT born with a dick.

Now, same that Epstein was NOT in cahoots with Israeli agents.

Bold strategy, Cotton!

Posted by: Turd in the punchbowl at August 05, 2025 02:42 PM (Kijkg)

102 I'm starting to suspect that Trump knew exactly what he was doing and needed the very press he lambasted to call for the very thing he wanted all along.

it was the "tar baby" thing

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 02:42 PM (Pv3Rg)

103 >How bad can a women's prison be?
I keep getting images in my head of pillow fights and cupcake parties.
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women-in-prison movies usually open with an extended shower scene

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 02:42 PM (AOsQT)

104 >>Aren't subpoenas as legally binding as letters to Santa Claus?

>>What if they just ignore them?

When Steve Bannon ignored a House subpoena he was referred to the DOJ, indicted and went to prison.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:43 PM (viF8m)

105 >>>How bad can a women's prison be?
I keep getting images in my head of pillow fights and cupcake parties.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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You've been watching too many candy movies.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:43 PM (c35xG)

106 98 I cancelled my TCN subscription this week. I initially subscribed as Tucker was touring the country for Trump. Some of his best stuff was delivered at those rallies. Since then, however, its been a steep decline into crap. Sad.

guy always gave me the willies

maybe that's what having a spook for a dad does to people I dunno

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 02:43 PM (Pv3Rg)

107 Saw Big Hebrew open for Republicans subpoena at
Menora Mivtachim Arena in '99

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2025 02:43 PM (/U5Yz)

108 I'm talkin' fur, and early mornin' dew

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 02:43 PM (AOsQT)

109 Please tell me the "John Roberts" on the Epstein Island flight logs was the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS, and not Epstein's plumber.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 02:44 PM (Da7Vv)

110 On Target: Trump Celebrates Shooting Sports Month
https://shorturl.at/JdigM
PJ Media

"REEEEE!!!" -- leftists

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:44 PM (ULPxl)

111 What a freaking waste of time & money, if they show up they ain't going to say anything. I bet they don't even show.

Posted by: Bob at August 05, 2025 02:44 PM (YiqZD)

112
Why subpoena the Clintons? What do they know that hundreds of NY/DC elites and crooks don't?

Posted by: Blonde Morticis's Phone at August 05, 2025 02:44 PM (n7rxJ)

113 75 66 It is really disgusting, and saddening, how far gone Tucker has revealed himself to be...He and Candace and Nick Fuentes all deserve each other.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 05, 2025 02:36 PM (uWKK

They've all got a demon. Jew hatred.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

I always like Mark Dice videos on YouTube. A little kooky at times, but fun and a different angle on topics. But he, too, has quite the "Jews control us" perspective I can't stand. If Horseshoe theory is correct about anything, both extreme right and extreme Left don't like Jews for some reason.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 05, 2025 02:44 PM (JCZqz)

114 Donald Trump.... [is] the most galvanizing public figure in living memory
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You guys chose to *break* yourself turning Trump into Mr. Neutron ("Destroyer of Worlds").

He "galvanizing" because maybe you shouldn't have tried to turn a centrist into a "dictator" who would "end democracy".

That type of hyperbole, when sang in unison by all the major media players is just *bound* to draw defense. Morons.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:44 PM (krQz2)

115 >>What if they just ignore them?

When Steve Bannon ignored a House subpoena he was referred to the DOJ, indicted and went to prison.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Right. But others have ignored subpoenas with impunity.

How they are treated after they ignore the subpoenas is important.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (c35xG)

116 Plead the filth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (63Dwl)

117 Tucker: America First, and while you're at it none of those damn Jews

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (r/xMY)

118
What a freaking waste of time & money, if they show up they ain't going to say anything. I bet they don't even show.
Posted by: Bob

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Agreed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticis's Phone at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (n7rxJ)

119 Tucker Carlson claims he's not antisemitic, just "America First," and just wants America to priortize its own interests, which do not, in his telling, include helping Israel fight the same Islamic terrorist forces that attacked America on 9/11.

America First means denying disaster relief to states and cities that boycott Israel.

Posted by: I Guess This is "Conservatism" at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (dMD3d)

120 110 On Target: Trump Celebrates Shooting Sports Month
https://shorturl.at/JdigM
PJ Media

"REEEEE!!!" -- leftists
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Can we move it to June next year?

Posted by: Totally Innocent Question at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (JCZqz)

121 A buddy of mine says "Why would I want 72 virgins? I want 10 sluts that know what they are doing."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (17s+e)

122 >Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?

>I don't remember that but it does make perfect sense.

campaign $

Posted by: cherries in season at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (m/KrU)

123 Get ready for a massive case of memory loss to hit DC.

I don't recall.

I don't recall.

I don't recall.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (cWNll)

124 But about these subpoenas, and if the recipients will even show up, much less spill some beans...

let me say this about that-
Alright then.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (AOsQT)

125 Even more amusing, President Trump gave Democrats an out on the Epstein files. Remember, he told them the files had been doctored to the point a lot of what is in the files is suspect.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (tT6L1)

126 >> What a freaking waste of time & money

What do you think Government does?

Posted by: garrett at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (L2IqH)

127 Epstein ran a blackmail op just like Diddy.
How long before Sean Combs is found dead in his cell?
I doubt we’re going to get any new meaningful information out of this mishegas

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (Jd1e1)

128 But, Trump's DOJ did move Maxwell from a bad prison to a better prison. Which is obviously something the state does when it likes your testimony.
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Or as a head-fake.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (krQz2)

129 Yum yum shit pebbles

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (tVWZ5)

130 They ain't gonna show up. They will all dare Trump to have them arrested.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 05, 2025 02:46 PM (0N4FZ)

131 >>>I think you’re conflating a few things Ace. Hamas isn’t AQ or any of the umbrella groups. It is indeed a terror group who should be wiped out in my opinion. Nonetheless they had nothing to do with 9-11 other than they celebrated it.

Silly. You're claiming that the same terrorist Islamic instinct to conquer doesn't animate both? You're looking a paper organizational chart and saying "they're different groups."

Yes, they are different manifestations of the exact same Islamic Reconquista.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:47 PM (KRtlO)

132 >>What a freaking waste of time & money, if they show up they ain't going to say anything. I bet they don't even show.

Well if the don't show they can be referred for prosecution but probably even more usefully we can start asking what the Clintons and other Democrats are hiding instead of them going after Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:47 PM (viF8m)

133 People love the idea of a singular lynchpin on which all of corruption hinges.

So, you're saying instead that there is a vast conspiracy running things. LOL

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 02:47 PM (Da7Vv)

134 Am I seeing that Matt Walsh is joining Candace with the "why is Trump threatening Canada with trade retaliation if they recognize Palestine as a state?"

There is something really rotten about how anyone can think there is any benefit to the US in allowing the Palis a state.
If it's no effect on the US to allow terrorist a state, were you clamoring for ISIS to be recognized as a state?
Yeah, you're totally not an anti-Semite ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 02:47 PM (NwfFc)

135 They've all got a demon. Jew hatred.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:38 PM (cWNll)

And I don't know why ?

I think about this a lot, Donna.

me personally I had a dad who took a powder and a bit of a rough time. I was just an intern at this agency but the family there took me under their wing. they helped me finish college and kept me employed and we still work together. they were my second family! ARE

now were they tough YES. tough bosses! serious! I think some people just can't deal. and btw tough on their own kids and stuff too! that's what being treated like family was - it wasn't "snowplow" parenting lol! could be very tough.

anyway long story but for me, I can't do it. I can't get over the hatred. I see where it comes from - jealousy AND an inability to deal with maybe sharp tongues and definitely tough business sense lol.

anyway I dunno that's my guess

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 02:48 PM (Pv3Rg)

136 I don't know much about Steve Bannon, except that he always seems to come off as a badly-informed blowhard.

Posted by: Paco at August 05, 2025 02:48 PM (mADJX)

137 Lock all they asses up!
Posted by: Warden Norton at August 05, 2025 02:37 PM

Look, I'm the victim here.

Posted by: Moroccan Donkey at August 05, 2025 02:48 PM (0sNs1)

138 >>> 119
==
America First means denying disaster relief to states and cities that boycott Israel.
Posted by: I Guess This is "Conservatism" at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (dMD3d)

ZeroHedge reported that; Gateway Pundit said it was false.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:49 PM (ULPxl)

139 None of the purported "testimony" that may occur had better be behind closed doors.

I want every minute televised. If it's not, the fix is in. *

* It may be in no matter what, but I want to see these toads squirm a bit first.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2025 02:49 PM (Q4IgG)

140 Take the Fifth? Good idea. We're gonna need more fifths.

Posted by: Hillary! at August 05, 2025 02:49 PM (wVcYX)

141 126 >> What a freaking waste of time & money
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What do you think Government does?
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Snort.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (W3T6M)

142 Macgregor can stfu

same wth bannon, tucker, posobiec & charlie

Posted by: cherries in season at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (m/KrU)

143 Trump isn’t impervious to scandal, it’s just that no one takes these clowns seriously anymore. They think MAGA is a cult, when it’s really just a complete lack of respect for left- wing asshats.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (iLmHM)

144 America First means Miriam Adelson, John Paulson and Paul Singer donating millions of dollars to unseat Republican Representatives in Kentucky with the help of the President.

If you don't agree, well, you might just be anti-Semitic despite your claims otherwise.

Posted by: I Guess This is at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (dMD3d)

145 >>>America First means denying disaster relief to states and cities that boycott Israel.
Posted by: I Guess This is "Conservatism" at August 05, 2025 02:45 PM (dMD3d)

ZeroHedge reported that; Gateway Pundit said it was false.

I Guess This is "Conservatism" thinks real conservatism = Nazism.

Posted by: ace at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (KRtlO)

146 >> and has found a new audience appealing to the pseudo-right which itself has embraced the left's unreasoning anti-Jewish hatred.

Isn't this what happened to Ron Paul too? Wasn't his newsletter (so not directly his writing) veering that way near the end. It was assumed he was doing it mostly for audience and money.

So who are these Big anti-Jew people with money they are going after, and any chance of a cage match?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (d0XKQ)

147
What do you think Government does?
Posted by: garrett

Rearrange the deck chairs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (63Dwl)

148 34 Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?
Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2025 02:24 PM (QzINz)
________

Everyone of any stature even remotely connected to NYC had a relationship with Epstein. He had all the right friends, went to all the right parties, got all the right invitations from all the right people. He was a major player in the high-end social scene. Probably a big political donor too. There are thousands of people on his "list."
Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

I'd still like to know who signed Epstein's 50th birthday card. Yes yes, the WSJ made a big deal out of Trump (supposedly) doing it, but they never mentioned anyone else. Newsweek had a recent article about it and they mention the following figures:

Trump
Bill Clinton
Leon Black
Alan Dershowitz
Nathan Myhrvold
Vera Wang (?!)

and nobody else. That can't be all there is.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (tYKc4)

149 Joos are into everything. Who knew?

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (W3T6M)

150 >>ZeroHedge reported that; Gateway Pundit said it was false.

It's not false. It's also not new. It's been US foreign policy for 50 years.

It's just the first time this new breed of Jew hating woke right noticed it and they been making asses of themselves for the last few days assuming that it was something Trump did.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:51 PM (viF8m)

151 In before the USS Liberty!

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 02:51 PM (jc0TO)

152 Which one of the subpoena'd will roll first? Hillary throwing everyone under the bus? Brennan saying "screw these elite scumbags" , Comey "ok I'm a Jesuit, time to confess"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 05, 2025 02:51 PM (r/xMY)

153 Let me write the script of these hearings:

"On the advice of my attorney, I refuse to answer that question."

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 02:52 PM (Da7Vv)

154 >>> Posted by: I Guess This is at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (dMD3d)

Rotating nic with brand-new hash, super credible.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:52 PM (ULPxl)

155 51 It's really weird that the same people that told us it's no big deal that Maxwell was first person in history convicted of being a pimp without a single john being named, are suddenly trying to tell us the only alleged--against all evidence--client of Epstein we should discuss is Trump

——

This isn’t accurate. She was accused and convicted of trafficking to Epstein and Epstein only.

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2025 02:52 PM (QzINz)

156 Did I tell you Bucatini is vastly superior to Spaghetti?

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 02:52 PM (W3T6M)

157 133 People love the idea of a singular lynchpin on which all of corruption hinges.

So, you're saying instead that there is a vast conspiracy running things. LOL
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 02:47 PM (Da7Vv)

===

I say a system that encourages corruption engenders corruption in many, independent forms.

Posted by: TJM's phone at August 05, 2025 02:53 PM (Vmn5q)

158 How do we know Steve Bannon interviewed Epstein for 15 hours?
The only person who can talk that long is Jordan Peterson.
15 hours is a really long time to talk, even if it takes place over days.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2025 02:53 PM (Jd1e1)

159
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes *may* have been made.
If so, they were made in the exuberance of the moment.
Old news.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Time to move on.

Posted by: The Subpoenaed at August 05, 2025 02:53 PM (0sNs1)

160 The Palis have rejected statehood on multiple occasions. They want a 1 state solution with all the Jews dead. “Recognising” them as a state is performative left- wing virtue signalling. Without the virtue.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (iLmHM)

161 I think it was Schumer or Pelosi said that the "Process is the Punishment" ...

What Goes Around Comes Around.....

Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (BltCC)

162 106 98 I cancelled my TCN subscription this week. I initially subscribed as Tucker was touring the country for Trump. Some of his best stuff was delivered at those rallies. Since then, however, its been a steep decline into crap. Sad.

guy always gave me the willies

maybe that's what having a spook for a dad does to people I dunno
Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 02:43 PM (Pv3Rg)

They. Are. All. Entertainers.

I really don't trust anything other than primary sources, Insty for the links, and AoSHQ. It's served me well so far.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (tYKc4)

163 Time to move on.
Posted by: The Subpoenaed at August 05, 2025 02:53 PM

Dot org.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (jc0TO)

164 148
and nobody else. That can't be all there is.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (tYKc4)

Woody Allen. Bet that one is creepy.

Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (QzINz)

165 >>Let me write the script of these hearings:

>>"On the advice of my attorney, I refuse to answer that question."

They are being subpoenaed to give depositions not to do public hearings.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (viF8m)

166 There is something really rotten about how anyone can think there is any benefit to the US in allowing the Palis a state.
If it's no effect on the US to allow terrorist a state, were you clamoring for ISIS to be recognized as a state?
Yeah, you're totally not an anti-Semite ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 02:47 PM (NwfFc)
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But you're doing what the left does.

You don't agree with me, therefore it must be some deep-seated hatred or defect in you.

I don't agree with Tucker. And I don't agree with Tucker's trajectory. But that doesn't make me turn to "sniffing out" marginal "Jew-hatred".

Although, I am quite a Zionist (in the proper sense), and often have thoughts that Israel should just completely wipe out Hamas and won't have peace until they do, I do not like that a lack of support--or even suspicion about support is "sniffed out" as "Jew hatred" again to the Volkish Nazis.

Again, I would advise we leave this type of defective argument to the left.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM (krQz2)

167 Woody Allen. Bet that one is creepy.

you can read it! it's typewritten

and yes, hella creepy

Posted by: Black Orchid at August 05, 2025 02:55 PM (Pv3Rg)

168 >>> 150
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It's not false. It's also not new. It's been US foreign policy for 50 years.

It's just the first time this new breed of Jew hating woke right noticed it and they been making asses of themselves for the last few days assuming that it was something Trump did.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:51 PM (viF8m)

Erm, wasn't that before FEMA? Although I guess it makes sense for it to have been included in a new program.

...and if it's been around for so long and the left disapproves, why didn't Carter, Clinton, Obama or Biden make any changes?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:55 PM (ULPxl)

169 It's like every president for the last half a century has had a fully operational death star chilling the the basement of the white house, and when Trump moved in and found it, said "Why in the hell aren't we using this thing?!?!", and the Establishment all replied "ugh, that's so laaaame, nobody uses death stars, uuugggggh, what are you stupid or something? We just have to let everyone else do whatever they want, because, like, privilege or something. Besides, death stars don't even work, all the experts say so".

So now he's just shoving this thing in every other world leaders' face every time he wants something. "Oh, don't want to end your little skirmish? Death Star!" "You want to recognize Palestine as a country? Death Star!" "You want 0% tariffs on the shit you sell my people? How about 100% DEATH STAR!!!!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 02:55 PM (rIQZh)

170 Epstein Files are the new Area 51. Whatever gets released no one will believe it is all of it, and the conspiracies will rage online forever.

Posted by: brak at August 05, 2025 02:55 PM (jGJov)

171 I have an idea we'll have better luck nailing Jello to the wall but if the right people are feeling more than a bit uncomfortable I guess that'll have to do.

Posted by: jsg at August 05, 2025 02:55 PM (thkFq)

172 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Posted by: Lord Comey at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (9bq/n)

173 I knew BillyJeff was a frequent flier on Pedo Air.

Why Hillary? Did she visit?

Did she order the blood of virgins spa treatment or something?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (cWNll)

174 >>Erm, wasn't that before FEMA? Although I guess it makes sense for it to have been included in a new program.

DHS

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (viF8m)

175 ZeroHedge reported that; Gateway Pundit said it was false.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:49 PM (ULPxl)

Reuters broke the story.

The DHS then edited the language to remove "Israel" but left in vague language regarding boycotts, as noted by DiscloseTV.

Posted by: I Guess This is at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (dMD3d)

176 So much of this shit is secret squirrel, 12D chess bullshit where who is the hunter and who the hunted and who it benefits and who it hurts is mutable as fuck.

Bah.

Molest a kid, get hung by the neck until dead.

So let it be written.
So let it be done.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (zZu0s)

177 Radar Online, via Drudge, has FOIA'd an FBI document confirming Epstein was an FBI informant. Not Whitey Bulger-level bad, but close...

Posted by: Diabeetus at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (SlrUo)

178
Why Hillary? Did she visit?

Did she order the blood of virgins spa treatment or something?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (cWNll)

It didn't work

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (VE6XX)

179 Not everything is anti-semitism. The Trump admin fucked the release of all the Epstein stuff, and people want transparency on the matter. Epstein had links to intel personnel both here in the US and in Israel, it’s reasonable to speculate on this point and when the admin is being cagey about the whole thing it looks bad.

Also the Iran bombing was for Israel, not us. Iran has to fund terrorism campaigns against us because they can’t strike us directly. They can strike Israel though. How “America First” somehow came to mean fighting for a foreign nation I don’t know.

Posted by: Wat at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (SYhD7)

180 >>> 173 I knew BillyJeff was a frequent flier on Pedo Air.

Why Hillary? Did she visit?

Did she order the blood of virgins spa treatment or something?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:56 PM (cWNll)

Look up "spirit cooking" on something other than guglag.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (ULPxl)

181 Bannon seems more intent on China, but I don't remember him ever being anti-Israel. He and a few others helped Trump win first time around, then Trump dumped most of them.

Navarro also went to prison ... not Holder or many others that ignored subpoenas.

"Navarro was convicted on both counts and on January 25, 2024, he was sentenced to four months in jail and fined $9,500, becoming the first former White House official ever imprisoned on contempt of Congress conviction." wiki

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (vbXSk)

182 Off topic, but if the Texas Rangers happen to round up any fugitive Democrat legislators within the boundaries of the state, I think they ought to haul them back to jail in tumbleweed wagons pulled by mules. It would generate a nice "old west" vibe.

Posted by: Paco at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (mADJX)

183 There's always been room in the Republican party for a little Jew-hating.

Posted by: Pat Buchanan at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (bNf8H)

184 This man is a Jew!

Posted by: Ich bin Uberman at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (jc0TO)

185 A correspondent points out that Steven Bannon spent fifteen hours interviewing Jeffrey Epstein -- and he> hasn't released that information.

--

Well, in his defense, he is dead.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 05, 2025 02:58 PM (B9Prs)

186 This man is a Jew!
Posted by: Ich bin Uberman at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (jc0TO)

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Back from when SNL could do something funny.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 05, 2025 02:58 PM (tT6L1)

187 Clapper, Comey, Obama, Hillary, Brennan, etc need to be Flogged, Drawn, and Quartered on National TV.

Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 02:58 PM (BltCC)

188 I laid out my updated theory that Trump is just putting this Epstein intel out there just to goad the MFM into 'forcing' him to release it and destroy the Dems in the process.

Nothing that's taken place lately is indicating that I need to change that theory.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (tYKc4)

189 People love the idea of a singular lynchpin on which all of corruption hinges.
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Yeah. I don't need that.

But the need to fill that in might even indicate an urge to tribalism.

Tribalism is about who else believes as you do or doesn't believe as you do. Or what external group can be blamed.

While I have abandoned a tight subscription to Hanlon's razor--because ignorance and ARROGANCE form a very good simulation of malice--it still is a good check against having to find a central group unlike us to blame.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (krQz2)

190 >>Also the Iran bombing was for Israel, not us. Iran has to fund terrorism campaigns against us because they can’t strike us directly. They can strike Israel though. How “America First” somehow came to mean fighting for a foreign nation I don’t know.

We are the Great Satan. Israel is only Puny Satan.

And yes, taking out the nuclear program from the biggest state sponsor of terrorism was for the US. Cave dwelling Islamic freaks in Afghanistan couldn't hurt us until they did.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (viF8m)

191 Not everything is anti-semitism.

Saying that is, in itself, anti-Semitic.

Posted by: I Guess This is at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (dMD3d)

192 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

193 It Begins, Episode 1: The Beginening.

Posted by: Nonapod at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (CwtyK)

194 87 Clapper, Comey, Obama, Hillary, Brennan, etc need to be Flogged, Drawn, and Quartered on National TV.
Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 02:58 PM (BltCC)

Pay per view. Pay off the debt.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (cWNll)

195 The Palis have rejected statehood on multiple occasions. They want a 1 state solution with all the Jews dead. “Recognising” them as a state is performative left- wing virtue signalling. Without the virtue.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM

First off, they do not qualify for statehood by recognized international law. There was a big convention in montevideo in the 1930s that addressed how statehood should be awarded and the world has pretty much been operating under those rules since then.

This is all B$ fluff posturing because the entire world knows that the US will not recognize them as a state no matter who is president. And if the US does not recognize them it's all over but the shouting and screaming.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 05, 2025 03:00 PM (0N4FZ)

196 142 Macgregor can stfu

same wth bannon, tucker, posobiec & charlie
Posted by: cherries in season at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (m/KrU)

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I'm curious, what did Posobiec do?

Posted by: Bubba at August 05, 2025 03:00 PM (Z96ZC)

197 Clapper, Comey, Obama, Hillary, Brennan, etc need to be Flogged, Drawn, and Quartered on National TV.
Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 02:58 PM

What am we, chopped sausage?

Posted by: Privy Parts, stricken and burned before their eyes at August 05, 2025 03:00 PM (0sNs1)

198 Meanwhile, back at the DOJ, Bondi is rumored to be empaneling her lawfare Grand Jury in ... Florida, and not blue D.C., using the Demofascists theatrical raid on Mar-A-Lago as predication. How do you like ordering that raid now, Democrats?!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2025 03:00 PM (9nZO5)

199 It has become an iron tenet of contemporary politics that developments that would massively affect the standing in public opinion of most politicians have little or no effect, positively or negatively, on Donald Trump. He's the most galvanizing public figure in living memory, and his vast history of controversy and scandal appear to have made him as impervious to breaking news as a cockroach is impervious to radiation.

Completely glossing over the fact that a vast majority of the 'vast history of controversy and scandal' is all made up shit by the Democrats and their left wing media shills.

He's the cleanest politician we've had in decades as they've found NOTHING that will stick to the man.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

200 >>>Well if the don't show they can be referred for prosecution but probably even more usefully we can start asking what the Clintons and other Democrats are hiding instead of them going after Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Republicans learning how to put Democrats on defense.
That will be something to watch.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:01 PM (c35xG)

201 Not everything is anti-semitism.

Saying that is, in itself, anti-Semitic.
Posted by: I Guess This is at August 05, 2025 02:59 PM (dMD3d)
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ADL, is that you?

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:01 PM (krQz2)

202 197 Clapper, Comey, Obama, Hillary, Brennan, etc need to be Flogged, Drawn, and Quartered on National TV.
Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 02:58 PM

What am we, chopped sausage?
Posted by: Privy Parts, stricken and burned before their eyes at August 05, 2025 03:00 PM (0sNs1)

Piker.

Posted by: The Brazen Bull at August 05, 2025 03:01 PM (tYKc4)

203 198 Meanwhile, back at the DOJ, Bondi is rumored to be empaneling her lawfare Grand Jury in ... Florida, and not blue D.C., using the Demofascists theatrical raid on Mar-A-Lago as predication. How do you like ordering that raid now, Democrats?!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2025 03:00 PM (9nZO5

Those frilly panties are totally worth it!! - FBI Bob

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (cWNll)

204 >>> 179
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Posted by: Wat at August 05, 2025 02:57 PM (SYhD7)

Oh, another newbie.

If you were a lurker here you would have seen us arguing hmm, *energetically* about how Blondi and Trump et al handled the Epstein "list".

As for Iran - we don't have an interest in hitting them because they're "only" paying for terrorist attacks on us instead of direct attacks? That's what you're going with?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (ULPxl)

205 Also the Iran bombing was for Israel, not us.
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Iranian proxies have launched over 150 attacks on U.S. forces since October 2023 alone. Also, which is the little satan and which is big satan that Iran speaks of, US or Israel, I forget.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (Dv3i1)

206 Nonetheless they had nothing to do with 9-11 other than they celebrated it.
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Guilty!!!

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (jRYyy)

207 I'd like to have the subpoenaed testimony at Alligator Alcatraz. That'll be a sobering drive and vista to start their already scary no-lawyer present interrogation for Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Comey et al. A taste of their future.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (9nZO5)

208 I have seen the picture of Bill Clinton with the late Virginia Guiffre, who I believe died of Arkancide* - sorry I didn't keep a copy of it.

Lots of people in the Aussie outback get hit by buses --- oh wait no they don't.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (Da7Vv)

209 ADL, is that you?

When you are holding a Zionist hammer, everything looks like an anti-Semitic nail.

Posted by: ADL at August 05, 2025 03:02 PM (dMD3d)

210 121 - A buddy of mine says "Why would I want 72 virgins? I want 10 sluts that know what they are doing."

Haw! The case against Islam, Exhibit A.

Posted by: Paco at August 05, 2025 03:03 PM (mADJX)

211 Did I read here that Schumer had a relationship with Epstein?
Posted by: Piper at August 05, 2025 02:24 PM (QzINz)
________

Everyone of any stature even remotely connected to NYC had a relationship with Epstein. He had all the right friends, went to all the right parties, got all the right invitations from all the right people. He was a major player in the high-end social scene. Probably a big political donor too. There are thousands of people on his "list."
Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

I'd still like to know who signed Epstein's 50th birthday card. Yes yes, the WSJ made a big deal out of Trump (supposedly) doing it, but they never mentioned anyone else. Newsweek had a recent article about it and they mention the following figures:

Trump
Bill Clinton
Leon Black
Alan Dershowitz
Nathan Myhrvold
Vera Wang (?!)

and nobody else. That can't be all there is.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 02:50 PM (tYKc4)
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Vera Wang was a YUGE player in the NYC social scene at the time. I'm sure she was at every major high-society function. Her husband was a rich Jewish Epstein-type and probably plugged into the economic side.

Posted by: Elric at August 05, 2025 03:03 PM (iFTx/)

212 110 On Target: Trump Celebrates Shooting Sports Month
https://shorturl.at/JdigM
PJ Media
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First thought was, he doesn't know how to hold one.
Second thought, he carries one.
His shooting skills are not for public demonstration.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:03 PM (c35xG)

213 179. Also the Iran bombing was for Israel, not us.

LOL. Sounds like someone hasn't been paying attention since 1979.

Posted by: front toward enemy at August 05, 2025 03:03 PM (TIizU)

214 169 It's like every president for the last half a century has had a fully operational death star
Posted by: Warai-otoko

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I have been pro-tariff since the 80s. I have gotten into serious arguments with economists over this. To them, it is the one absolute law of economics that tariffs are bad and cause more harm to the tariffer. It is like going to a Dr. and saying you don't want cancer treatment, you are going to use homeopathic cures.

So no President wanted to use the death star because all the experts would have laughed their asses off at such a fool.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at August 05, 2025 03:03 PM (d0XKQ)

215 Big Hebrew? Isn't that a hot dog brand.

Posted by: WisRich at August 05, 2025 03:04 PM (G0vdT)

216
He's the cleanest politician we've had in decades as they've found NOTHING that will stick to the man.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

He's so clean they had to make up things to charge him with.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 05, 2025 03:04 PM (ajCaF)

217 I think this whole process reflects what Trump said a month or two ago. DC has had the files long enough to cook the information stored about them. He, for GOOD reasons, doesn't trust DC or the IC.

This is a way to get the emphasis on getting all the facts into the open. That would gel with what he said. Trump's afraid of distortions, so I don't think he's afraid of laying out the Epstein matter entirely.

He had his public break with Epstein, when other people were still attending his parties.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:05 PM (krQz2)

218 Subpoenaing Bill and Hilz to testify would set a record for normally boring stuff. Bill, accompanied by young female intern(s) and Hilz with a box of Chardonnay and ice.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2025 03:05 PM (gm9Sb)

219 He's so clean they had to make up things to charge him with.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 05, 2025 03:04 PM (ajCaF)
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Including changing the Statute of Limitations to get him and only him.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:05 PM (krQz2)

220 Bill will claim ex-president immunity.
Hillary will not recall.

Oh we remember.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2025 03:06 PM (dhl6J)

221 I will give credit to the Left for mainstreaming the term "zionism". Maybe more impressive than what they did with the you know what word. They can really do anything and their followers will lap it up.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:06 PM (jRYyy)

222 158 How do we know Steve Bannon interviewed Epstein for 15 hours? The only person who can talk that long is Jordan Peterson. 15 hours is a really long time to talk, even if it takes place over days.
Posted by: kallisto

(Sobs) I broke a record! I'm a hero! I AM SPARTACUS!!!!

Posted by: Cory Booker at August 05, 2025 03:06 PM (JCZqz)

223 I had to look up Nathan Myhrvold - former CTO at Microsquish.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 03:06 PM (ULPxl)

224 It has become an iron tenet of contemporary politics that developments that would [formerly] massively affect the standing in public opinion of most politicians have little or no effect

Oh, your parlor tricks don’t work any more? What did you expect?

In a way the massive success of the “Long March” through all the institutions is also ultimately a weakness or vulnerability.

The idiots finally achieved their dreams. They run everything. But …they are idiots.

The People will tolerate corrupt politicians (RM Daley, say) so long as they get stuff done. The People will also tolerate a certain level of incompetence, so long as they don’t do too much damage.

What we have now is a toxic brew of incompetence and corruption at a level never seen before. Daley was an asshole I’m sure, but he loved America. He loved Chicago at least. As far as I’m concerned too many politicians at the local state and federal level are (de facto) foreign enemy aliens. They aren’t Americans. They just live here.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2025 03:06 PM (ebWKH)

225 Nothing happens in House committees other than congresscritters posing for the cameras. They need to be subpoenaed to a federal court.

Posted by: Kimo Loka at August 05, 2025 03:07 PM (EjxK5)

226 He's the cleanest politician we've had in decades as they've found NOTHING that will stick to the man.

Remember, the former director of the FBI went after him with an unlimited budget and a team of TDS infected rabid attack dog lawyers, and they couldn't find an unpaid parking ticket to charge him with.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 03:08 PM (Da7Vv)

227 Always remember that the Globalists are trying harder than ever to fracture our base.

That means paid newnic and possibly oldnic "influencers", riling up both sides.

It doesn't mean don't argue with anyone or each other. Just be aware of it.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:08 PM (jRYyy)

228 It's nugatory! It's already been ajudicated! I don't recall!
Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at August 05, 2025 03:08 PM (XeU6L)

229 I want someone to ask Bill about that portrait of him found in Epstein's NYC apartment. You know, the one of him lounging in a chair wearing a blue dress and red heels. Ask him how long he had to sit for the painting, was it the same blue dress as Monica's, did Epstein personally like him in this dress?

Posted by: Cheri at August 05, 2025 03:08 PM (oiNtH)

230 Hillary can just stretch and de l ay until after mid terms. Make herself unavailable.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2025 03:09 PM (dhl6J)

231
What we have now is a toxic brew of incompetence and corruption at a level never seen before. Daley was an asshole I’m sure, but he loved America. He loved Chicago at least. As far as I’m concerned too many politicians at the local state and federal level are (de facto) foreign enemy aliens. They aren’t Americans. They just live here.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2025 03:06 PM

This, everything is corrupt and incompetent. Everything is a grift to enrich the politicians and their clients/unemployable family members.
It's a big club and we ain't in it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 05, 2025 03:09 PM (ajCaF)

232 What we have now is a toxic brew of incompetence and corruption at a level never seen before.

*cough*the CCP*cough*

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 03:09 PM (Riz8t)

233 Nothing happens in House committees other than congresscritters posing for the cameras. They need to be subpoenaed to a federal court.
Posted by: Kimo Loka

+1

Posted by: MkY at August 05, 2025 03:09 PM (cPGH3)

234 I wouldn't say totally clean. He did rape a woman on an episode of Law and Order.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:09 PM (jRYyy)

235 I didn't know abortion pill reversal was even possible -

(LifeSiteNews) — A federal district court issued an order on Friday permanently blocking Colorado from forcing a Catholic pro-life pregnancy center to halt abortion pill reversal treatments.

In April 2023, the Centennial State enacted a law prohibiting doctors and nurses from providing abortion pill reversal (APR), forcing women to undergo abortions they wish to avoid.

“Abortion pill reversal is a safe and often effective treatment for women who change their minds about chemical abortion and can reverse the effects of the first chemical abortion drug, saving the life of the unborn child,” explained a statement from the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF),

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (Dv3i1)

236
after DOJ officials interviewed Epstein's late accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell

"Late"???? Either the Post is hiring illiterates or Maxwell has info that will put Hillary into prison.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (y9nCu)

237 I saw Big Heeb open for Big Head Todd and the Monsters at The Bronco Bowl in '99.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

238 Hillary can just stretch and de l ay until after mid terms. Make herself unavailable.

At some point, the hate and spite inside of Hillary will consume her, and she'll disappear into a point, like the house in Poltergeist.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (Riz8t)

239 The Palis have rejected statehood on multiple occasions. They want a 1 state solution with all the Jews dead. “Recognising” them as a state is performative left- wing virtue signalling. Without the virtue.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 05, 2025 02:54 PM
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Because for so much of their life they were "refugees" for the Cause. The PLO came from Egypt to keep them in camps so they could serve as a perennial open sore of Israel's "meanness".

They have not wanted to incorporate as a state without all the land that Israel owns, too.

And that type of unreason just goes to show you they are only there for a "stalemate".

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (krQz2)

240 This Epstein obsession is ridiculous. Who CARES?

Posted by: dagny at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (cnmSH)

241 Nothing happens in House committees other than congresscritters posing for the cameras. They need to be subpoenaed to a federal court.
Posted by: Kimo Loka
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Don't worry, the MSM will provide headlines of the hearings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (XeU6L)

242 And I know he's getting up there, but Governor Abbot should formally deputize Chuck Norris as a Ranger and let him loose on the flee bags. Just hauling one back to Austin belly down on a saddle would really perk things up.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (gm9Sb)

243 "The GOP is famous for subpoenas and Strongly Written Letters."

Don't forget the rolled up shirt sleeves.

Posted by: Butch at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (brXTq)

244 OK, I'll revise and extend my remarks:
It's not anti-Semite to find yourself in a position where you are supporting or allowing the recognition of a Pali state.
There are legitimate reasons.
An extreme isolationism, or a purely transactional view of geopolitics, for example.

But it is fucking retarded and you ought to examine how you ended up on the side of those who support terrorists.
"It's not binary" as was oft said, but I don't think any principle that results in rewarding the animal scum that cheered (and I mean cheered because ALL Palis cheered, even the civilians) 10/7 with a state is any principle I want to hold on to very tightly.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (NwfFc)

245 That means paid newnic and possibly oldnic "influencers", riling up both sides.
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:08 PM

Extra sardine tins are available, on a weekly basis.

Call us.

Posted by: Big Penguin at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (0sNs1)

246 after DOJ officials interviewed Epstein's late accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell
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Holy crap this is like that reporter saying Building 7 had collapsed while standing in front of Building 7.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (jRYyy)

247 235 I didn't know abortion pill reversal was even possible -

(LifeSiteNews) — A federal district court issued an order on Friday permanently blocking Colorado from forcing a Catholic pro-life pregnancy center to halt abortion pill reversal treatments.

In April 2023, the Centennial State enacted a law prohibiting doctors and nurses from providing abortion pill reversal (APR), forcing women to undergo abortions they wish to avoid.

“Abortion pill reversal is a safe and often effective treatment for women who change their minds about chemical abortion and can reverse the effects of the first chemical abortion drug, saving the life of the unborn child,” explained a statement from the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF),
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2025 03:10 PM (Dv3i1)

I approve

Posted by: Moloch at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (B9Prs)

248 (LifeSiteNews) — A federal district court issued an order on Friday permanently blocking Colorado from forcing a Catholic pro-life pregnancy center to halt abortion pill reversal treatments.

I had to read this three times to figure out it it was a good thing, or a bad thing.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (jc0TO)

249 Hitler got power because he was a whiny, conniving little bitch who climbed the ladder while all the perverts and retards in power weren't looking, AND when he got there he actually got jobs for regular humps and improved at least some people's quality of life.

The cracked out dumbasses who oozed their way into power here forgot to actually make things better for people. They thought the whining and conniving was entirely sufficient and the boring details of governing would work themselves out by their magic underpants gnome theories from two hundred years ago. Theories that long predate funny mustache man.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (rIQZh)

250 This Myhrvold dude sounds like a typical leftist jackwagon exec, with way more money than sense:
https://shorturl.at/zQWa0
wikipedia

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (ULPxl)

251 Daley was an asshole I’m sure, but he loved America. He loved Chicago at least.

Daley thought that Chicago should have a great university, so he provided lots of support to the University of Chicago, despite knowing that the people associated with the university would never vote for him. (At one point, of the fifty aldermen, the only anti-Daley alderman was the one from the University of Chicago neighborhood.)

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (xTIDn)

252 33 ... his vast history of controversy and scandal appear to have made him as impervious to breaking news as a cockroach is impervious to radiation.
===

Dang!
They make him sound like a super hero.
Posted by: Operator Error at August 05, 2025 02:31 PM (mNUut)

Interestingly enough, the same can almost be said about Billary.

Posted by: Rex Ryan (with apologies to Ms. Corbin) at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (8hxDK)

253 I had to read this three times to figure out it it was a good thing, or a bad thing.
Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (jc0TO)

That person has a fine future in writing Ballot Questions

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (jRYyy)

254 The real question is will the press, after months of talking about Trump's "distractions from Epstein" let Hillary get away with something like "At this point, what difference does it make?"

I predict that they still will, if they can.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:13 PM (krQz2)

255 I plead the syphalltic memory loss.

Posted by: Bill from chappaqua at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (OA79/)

256 Hillary, if questioned properly, could blow a fuse and rebut a question therefore blowing her 5th immunity.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (c35xG)

257 Hitler got power because he was a whiny, conniving little bitch who climbed the ladder while all the perverts and retards in power weren't looking, AND when he got there he actually got jobs for regular humps and improved at least some people's quality of life.

A friend of mine's grandparents spoke highly of the early years of the Hitler regime. There were jobs, the economy was good and life was pretty good for the Germans.

Then, Hitler went batshit and everything went to hell.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

258 Iranian proxies have launched over 150 attacks on U.S. forces since October 2023 alone. Also, which is the little satan and which is big satan that Iran speaks of, US or Israel, I forget.
---
How many IEDs that blew up, dismembered and killed our soldiers in Iraq were made in Iran or by Iranians?

We owe them a whole lot more than a single night of bombing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (NwfFc)

259 Obama, Hilderbeast, Clapper, Comey, etc have done so much damaged to this country such as GOD may have to ultimately punish them through his methods.

GOD saved Trump for a reason....

Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (BltCC)

260 Hillary, if questioned properly, could blow a fuse and rebut a question therefore blowing her 5th immunity.

Posted by: Braenyard

So...how is Web Hubbell in bed?

Posted by: Female Congresscritter at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (cPGH3)

261 Trump doesn't drink or smoke
If he ever had a vice, it might have been that he was a bit of a horndog in the past

He obviously loves beautiful women

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (AOsQT)

262 In all seriousness, the presses 180 on their interest in the epstein matter pretty much confirms with everyone on both sides of the aisle that they are being opportunistic.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (OA79/)

263 215 Big Hebrew? Isn't that a hot dog brand.

Posted by: WisRich at August 05, 2025 03:04 PM (G0vdT)

Nah, that's Hebrew National.

I haven't tried those, but I have had Nathan's brand and they're pretty good.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (6ydKt)

264 >>> 257
==
A friend of mine's grandparents spoke highly of the early years of the Hitler regime. There were jobs, the economy was good and life was pretty good for the Germans.

Then, Hitler went batshit and everything went to hell.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

SEE! JUST LIKE DRUMPF!!!

Posted by: DUmmies at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (ULPxl)

265 AND when he got there he actually got jobs for regular humps and improved at least some people's quality of life.

I made the trains run on time.

Posted by: Benito at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (0sNs1)

266 "It's not binary" as was oft said, but I don't think any principle that results in rewarding the animal scum that cheered (and I mean cheered because ALL Palis cheered, even the civilians) 10/7 with a state is any principle I want to hold on to very tightly.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 03:11 PM (NwfFc)

Hey don't sell us short, some of us even joined in!

Posted by: Palis at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (8hxDK)

267 Bannon and Carlson are all aboard the Coo-Coo Train.

Posted by: Justin Credible at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (sAMJ6)

268 I'm curious how Reid Hoffman reacts to this.

Posted by: Orson at August 05, 2025 03:15 PM (dIske)

269
Do you support the optional banning of mandatory reversal drug free compulsory therapies for volunteered subjects?

O Yes
O No
O What

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:16 PM (jRYyy)

270 256 Hillary, if questioned properly, could blow a fuse and rebut a question therefore blowing her 5th immunity.

Prediction: Hillary will do the Col Jessup Defense Strategy...

Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 03:16 PM (BltCC)

271 A friend of mine's grandparents spoke highly of the early years of the Hitler regime. There were jobs, the economy was good and life was pretty good for the Germans.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

LMFAO

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (jRYyy)

272 Just ask Hillary about the strawberries.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (rIQZh)

273 Trump's quite the gunslinger, but in his first term, he made the mistake of almost always giving his opponents a chance to draw first. I am glad to see that he has pretty much gotten over that approach.

Posted by: Paco at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (mADJX)

274 That person has a fine future in writing Ballot Questions
____

The writer landed the triple negative, sort of. I included the statement from the ADF to hopefully clear up that the court decided rightly. But I also had no idea that someone had come up with a cure for those who have taken the abortion pill.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (Dv3i1)

275 Hitler got power because he was a whiny, conniving little bitch who climbed the ladder while all the perverts and retards in power weren't looking

Stalin got power because rather than tour the Soviet Union giving inspiring speeches, he was the dull guy in the personnel office deciding who was going to be the Party's second secretary in Smolensk.

Then, after Lenin died, the superstars like Trotsky discovered that the whole Party apparat had been appointed by Stalin.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (xTIDn)

276
LMFAO
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (jRYyy)

I'm just repeating what they said.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)

277 Did you finish the 2 gallons of box wine?

Hillary: You're damn right I did!!!

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 03:18 PM (Riz8t)

278 Speculations upon Speculations. This is cult.
Jazz it up, you have jazzy cult.
Cult cult cult.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at August 05, 2025 03:18 PM (nG58E)

279 I'm just repeating what they said.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (Zz0t1)

I understand.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:18 PM (jRYyy)

280 Stalin got power because rather than tour the Soviet Union giving inspiring speeches, he was the dull guy in the personnel office deciding who was going to be the Party's second secretary in Smolensk.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (xTIDn)
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And arranging Lenin's calendar.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:19 PM (krQz2)

281 Speculations upon Speculations. This is cult.
Jazz it up, you have jazzy cult.
Cult cult cult.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at August 05, 2025 03:18 PM (nG58E)

This is about me, isn't it......

Posted by: Texas A&M University at August 05, 2025 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)

282 Donde esta Señor Chuy?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2025 03:19 PM (0sNs1)

283 244 OK, I'll revise and extend my remarks:
It's not anti-Semite to find yourself in a position where you are supporting or allowing the recognition of a Pali state.
There are legitimate reasons.
----------------

Yes, those Gazans could be allowed an independent state but not taken from Israel land. Their blood brother muslims should take them in an help them.
They Do Not Belong In Israel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:19 PM (c35xG)

284 249 Hitler got power because he was a whiny, conniving little bitch who climbed the ladder while all the perverts and retards in power weren't looking, AND when he got there he actually got jobs for regular humps and improved at least some people's quality of life.

The cracked out dumbasses who oozed their way into power here forgot to actually make things better for people. They thought the whining and conniving was entirely sufficient and the boring details of governing would work themselves out by their magic underpants gnome theories from two hundred years ago. Theories that long predate funny mustache man.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (rIQZh)

WWI had a hand in this as well. Any real elite that could have stopped Hitler - from either side of that war - was more likely than not killed fighting on the Western Front for a rotting, inbred aristocracy that didn't care less for them. I really hate WWI.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 03:19 PM (02Hk3)

285 261 Trump doesn't drink or smoke
If he ever had a vice, it might have been that he was a bit of a horndog in the past

He obviously loves beautiful women

Nothing wrong with that vice of loving beautiful Super Models with great bodies. After all look at the Democrat Women like Harris, Pelosi, Warren, Hilderbeast, etc....

They are all Screech Owls that would drive you to drink....

Posted by: Jackson at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM (BltCC)

286 A correspondent points out that Steven Bannon spent fifteen hours interviewing Jeffrey Epstein -- and he> hasn't released that information.
==

I didn't know that Bannon had a 15-hour long interview with Epstein. And he hasn't released it?

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM (rj6Yv)

287 Has the Epstejn thing always brought out the antisemitic thing? Or is this a new development.

I seem to dimly recall back when 'Epstein did not kill himself' was the meme that we were not constantly talking about him possibly being an Israeli asset. Sorry, random 'new' developments that obfuscate and seem designed to divide the prosecution make me suspicious.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM (zZu0s)

288 >I had to read this three times to figure out it it was a good thing, or a bad thing.

Posted by: toby928
---
I'm the same- articles about court decisions sometimes baffle me

a judge blocks a ruling that stays an order in response to an appeal of a judgement that was denied by a lower court...

GAH
tell me the winner and the loser

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM (AOsQT)

289
Yes, those Gazans could be allowed an independent state but not taken from Israel land. Their blood brother muslims should take them in an help them.
They Do Not Belong In Israel.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:19 PM (c35xG)

If the murderous thugs that occupy Gaza currently are what the world considers 'palestinans,' maybe genocide should get a serious looking into.......Those people suck.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM (Zz0t1)

290 Trump may not drink but I do, and the day they haul Clapper, Brennan and Company before a Grand Jury is going to be a Big Day.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (NwxS3)

291 271 A friend of mine's grandparents spoke highly of the early years of the Hitler regime. There were jobs, the economy was good and life was pretty good for the Germans.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

LMFAO

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:17 PM (jRYyy)

---

If it wasn't for all the Lebensraum & Holocaust they might have had a good thing going for a few decades.

But Adolph had a mission and a plan and you know the rest.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (6ydKt)

292 A friend of mine's grandparents spoke highly of the early years of the Hitler regime. There were jobs, the economy was good and life was pretty good for the Germans.
-----------------
He was Times' Man of the Year in 38. His big failing was he was a compulsive gambler. Had he laid low for a three years and allowed his R&D efforts to mature he likely would have won. Possessing jet aircraft in numbers would alone given him the ultimate pimp hand. in the 40s.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (W3T6M)

293
Hitler got power because he was a whiny, conniving little bitch who climbed the ladder while all the perverts and retards in power weren't looking,

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2025 03:12 PM (rIQZh)

Not to mention that he kissed Ludendorff's ass in the early days with enough tongue action that Ludendorff thought he could prop up moustache man and use him as a hand puppet. Once moustache man realized that Fatso L had outlived his usefulness, he kicked him to the curb.

Oops.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (y9nCu)

294 I really hate WWI.

It gave quite a push to airplanes, though.

Posted by: Archimedes, reaching for a silver lining at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (Riz8t)

295 tell me the winner and the loser
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM

Winner:

Mary Ann
Trebuche
Long Bow
.45 ACP

Loser:
Ginger
Catapult
Crossbow
9 mm

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2025 03:22 PM (0sNs1)

296 I guess he's under the control of Big Hebrew now too.
......

They make hot dogs, right?

Posted by: wth at August 05, 2025 03:22 PM (UjdFS)

297 243 "The GOP is famous for subpoenas and Strongly Written Letters."

Don't forget the rolled up shirt sleeves. - Butch

And the scowls. Gotta have the scowls. When you're faking being tough and effective, verisimilitude is everything.

Posted by: Paco at August 05, 2025 03:22 PM (mADJX)

298
Winner:

Mary Ann
Trebuche
Long Bow
.45 ACP

Loser:
Ginger
Catapult
Crossbow
9 mm
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2025 03:22 PM (0sNs1)

....and that's when the fight started, officer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

299 I seem to dimly recall back when 'Epstein did not kill himself' was the meme that we were not constantly talking about him possibly being an Israeli asset. Sorry, random 'new' developments that obfuscate and seem designed to divide the prosecution make me suspicious.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM (zZu0s)
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About the most sensible discussion I saw said that Epstein seemed to have connections with the Mossad, but if he "worked for them" he probably did freelance information sharing.

It doesn't have to be a tight coupling with either government.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (krQz2)

300 Jim Jordan's shirts come from the laundry with the sleeves pre-rolled.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (jc0TO)

301 Then, Hitler went batshit and everything went to hell.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

He started doing amphetamines. Intravenously.

Posted by: Reforger at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (h5TUr)

302 295 tell me the winner and the loser
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM

Winner:

Mary Ann
Trebuche
Long Bow
.45 ACP

Loser:
Ginger
Catapult
Crossbow
9 mm
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2025 03:22 PM (0sNs1)

wait wait wait

Can't they both win? Can't we simply have all the things?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (02Hk3)

303 It has become an iron tenet of contemporary politics that developments that would massively affect the standing in public opinion of most politicians have little or no effect, positively or negatively, on Donald Trump. He's the most galvanizing public figure in living memory, and his vast history of controversy and scandal appear to have made him as impervious to breaking news as a cockroach is impervious to radiation.

I disagree. The reason there is so little impact on Trump is because more people know the media is lying about him. These are not "developments", "controversies", "scandals", or "breaking news"; these are lies.

The more the media lies about Trump, the more we distrust them.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (FMtrg)

304 He was Times' Man of the Year in 38. His big failing was he was a compulsive gambler. Had he laid low for a three years and allowed his R&D efforts to mature he likely would have won. Possessing jet aircraft in numbers would alone given him the ultimate pimp hand. in the 40s.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (W3T6M)

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Not to mention fully developed V-2 rockets.

Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 05, 2025 03:24 PM (CveCS)

305 It gave quite a push to airplanes, though.
Posted by: Archimedes, reaching for a silver lining at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (Riz8t)

I think i would have preferred if it had not wiped out so many towns and disillusioned those who did survive.

It is a water shed though. NO idea what things would look like now if it had not happened.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 05, 2025 03:24 PM (zZu0s)

306 The officials -- including former FBI Directors James Comey and Robert Mueller as well as six ex-US attorneys general -- were compelled to testify before the House Oversight Committee.

Compelling this group is like compelling a demon to exit a possessed body during an exorcism...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (ynpvh)

307 He started doing amphetamines. Intravenously.

I'm not sure he knew what Dr. Morell was giving him, so it may not be quite accurate to say "he started doing".

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (Riz8t)

308 where you are supporting or allowing the recognition of a Pali state.
-------

Depends where.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (jRYyy)

309 Not to mention fully developed V-2 rockets.
Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 05, 2025 03:24 PM

He would have had nukes if he hadn't driven all the Jew physicists to our side.

Posted by: toby928 at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (jc0TO)

310 DOJ officials interviewed Epstein's late accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell,

Did Maxwell kick the bucket without anyone noticing?

If not, the sentence really should be phrased "The late Epstein's accomplice Maxwell"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (a+4eV)

311 Not to mention that he kissed Ludendorff's ass in the early days with enough tongue action that Ludendorff thought he could prop up moustache man and use him as a hand puppet. Once moustache man realized that Fatso L had outlived his usefulness, he kicked him to the curb.

Oops.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (y9nCu)
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Well, the Nazis were one of the most "pro-government" protest/street movements out there, and they thought they could co-opt the movement and housebreak it.

They were wrong.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (krQz2)

312 Not to mention that he kissed Ludendorff's ass in the early days with enough tongue action that Ludendorff thought he could prop up moustache man and use him as a hand puppet.

They also thought they were neutering Hitler by giving him only two cabinet positions when they made him Chancellor.

Unfortunately, one of those cabinet positions was giving Goering control of the police, and six months later Germany was a single-party dictatorship.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (xTIDn)

313 Bill &
Hillary &
James &
Bob

Posted by: Could be a T-shirt at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (TbWk/)

314 HERE IT IS

The rooftop Trump Dance!

https://tinyurl.com/37urv94n

Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (AOsQT)

315 nood

Posted by: gp-aroctonus at August 05, 2025 03:26 PM (2XN3U)

316 313 Bill &
Hillary &
James &
Bob

Posted by: Could be a T-shirt at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (TbWk/)

and upside down pineapples?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2025 03:26 PM (ynpvh)

317 Did Maxwell kick the bucket without anyone noticing?

If not, the sentence really should be phrased "The late Epstein's accomplice Maxwell"
Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (a+4eV)

You act as if there are editors paying attention to what's being published nowadays.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:26 PM (Zz0t1)

318 .
NOOD

Disgraced Fired Former CNN Propagandist Jim Acosta "Interviews" an AI, Supposedly "Modeled" on a Dead Teenager, Programmed to Spit Out Gun Control Propaganda

NOOD!

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at August 05, 2025 03:26 PM (O7YUW)

319
Joe Biden: too old and senile to be indicted.
hILLRY Clinton: too old and drunk to be indicted.

Posted by: wth at August 05, 2025 03:26 PM (UjdFS)

320 tell me the winner and the loser
Posted by: Don Black. Message: Got my mojo workin' at August 05, 2025 03:20 PM

What are you, an anarchist?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (0sNs1)

321 DOJ officials interviewed Epstein's late accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell,

Did Maxwell kick the bucket without anyone noticing?

If not, the sentence really should be phrased "The late Epstein's accomplice Maxwell"
Posted by: FeatherBlade at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (a+4eV)

Bitch was never on time for anything.

Posted by: Epstein's ghost at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (TbWk/)

322 About Virginia Guiffre being hit by a bus in the Aussie outback: you have more chance of being eaten by a Tyrannosaur while walking out to your car in your driveway.

Amazingly after surviving being hit by the bus, 3 days later she "decided" to commit suicide.

Oh well, at least she identified Jimmy Kimmel, in her lawsuit deposition, as somebody she had sex with at Epstein's house.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (Da7Vv)

323 292 He was Times' Man of the Year in 38. His big failing was he was a compulsive gambler. Had he laid low for a three years and allowed his R&D efforts to mature he likely would have won. Possessing jet aircraft in numbers would alone given him the ultimate pimp hand. in the 40s. - pudinhead

I think all that Aryan master-race bullshit doomed him. Not very appealing to people who aren't in that particular genetic club.

Posted by: Paco at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (mADJX)

324 304 He was Times' Man of the Year in 38. His big failing was he was a compulsive gambler. Had he laid low for a three years and allowed his R&D efforts to mature he likely would have won. Possessing jet aircraft in numbers would alone given him the ultimate pimp hand. in the 40s.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 03:21 PM (W3T6M)
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Not to mention fully developed V-2 rockets.
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Yep. The first nation to enter outer space. And they did this while fighting a two front war. Jeebus.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (W3T6M)

325 308 where you are supporting or allowing the recognition of a Pali state.
-------

Depends where.
____

I'd accept south pole. On Mercury.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (Dv3i1)

326 "Uh, President Clinton. You have been sworn before this committee and I have an opening question. Where and when did you hire your accompanying intern with the Hooters tee shirt, and what's with the saxophone?".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (gm9Sb)

327 I'm not sure he knew what Dr. Morell was giving him, so it may not be quite accurate to say "he started doing".
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2025 03:25 PM (Riz8t)

Point taken. Yet he did provide his army with it.

Posted by: Reforger at August 05, 2025 03:27 PM (h5TUr)

328 Then, Hitler went batshit and everything went to hell.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 05, 2025 03:14 PM (Zz0t1)

He started doing amphetamines. Intravenously.
Posted by: Reforger at August 05, 2025 03:23 PM (h5TUr)

"Danke Schon, Herr Doktor Vielengut. Dass ist besser!"

Posted by: mrp at August 05, 2025 03:28 PM (rj6Yv)

329 Are Trump and the GOP repairing the damage caused by Epstein foot-dragging? I don't know, I wasn't that upset about it in the first place. I can't say if these moves appease the people most concerned about a "cover-up."

----

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Some people don't care about children being sexually trafficked and possibly killed. Some people don't care that a massive blackmail operation MIGHT be controlling elites and members of the government.

I can't insist anyone care about such things, but the lack of caring to me suggests those who don't have some deep concerns about what all this MIGHT lead to.

Or I guess, we can pretend we don't believe the Epstein operation was anything other than one guy getting his rocks off to kids.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 05, 2025 03:29 PM (dGCAG)

330 I think all that Aryan master-race bullshit doomed him. Not very appealing to people who aren't in that particular genetic club.
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Meh. What doomed him was admiring Mussolini and his constant habit of bailing him out.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 03:29 PM (W3T6M)

331 State Dept can make Sisi into a world hero by providing for the Gazans shelter from the dreadful Jews while giving him cover from the muslim world.
It can be made to happen. Made to happen for far less money than we've dumped into Ukraine.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:30 PM (c35xG)

332 I don’t believe that is a controversial take on history. One professor I had, no right winger, claimed that if Hitler had died in say, 1938 he would still be a revered figure today.

The whole thing is queer anyway. It was a civil war between Socialists. Stalin and the Communists should receive equal opprobrium and condemnation as Hitler and the Nazis. But they don’t.

US interests dropped the ball in this country, particularly with Socialist designs on fucking over people’s minds. The Germans and Russians are quite good at psyops, and nobody has been fucked with more than the Boomers and subsequent generations. The Nazis and Soviets are history, but the past never goes away - their ideological heirs are infested in this country.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 05, 2025 03:31 PM (ebWKH)

333 330 I think all that Aryan master-race bullshit doomed him. Not very appealing to people who aren't in that particular genetic club.
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Meh. What doomed him was admiring Mussolini and his constant habit of bailing him out.
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Syphilis and drugs can cause one to make dreadful decisions.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:31 PM (c35xG)

334 I'll say it again:
A civilized world, looking upon the events of 10/7, would accept that the entire Muslim occupants of Gaza deserve to be wiped from the face of the Earth.
Including the children.
Because, when their parents cheered what happened, when their children cheered what happened, they chose death.
They chose war. All of them.
The parents chose death for their children.
We should not, as civilized people, who abhor total war, who hold innocent life sacred, allow such monsters any space in this world.
Because even a crack of mercy allows them the opening to repeat again what they did on 10/7.

Letting any of them live, because of their now-starving children, sends the message that 10/7 is acceptable.
Only their complete extermination and genocide sends the message that it was not and never will be accepted by a civilized world.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2025 03:33 PM (NwfFc)

335 330 In the movie Valkyrie there's a scene where German generals are discussing plan of the day. Hitler is to welcome Mussolini. One General says "good, maybe some ambitious young officer shoots that Dago son of a bitch".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2025 03:33 PM (gm9Sb)

336 Syphilis and drugs can cause one to make dreadful decisions.
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They didn't have Quaaludes back then.

Posted by: pudinhead at August 05, 2025 03:33 PM (W3T6M)

337
Or I guess, we can pretend we don't believe the Epstein operation was anything other than one guy getting his rocks off to kids.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Some people don't see 16 year old's as children.
Buddy, who has grandchildren that age has a different opinion.
However, we're not talking about snatching 16 year old's out of a stable homelife.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at August 05, 2025 03:36 PM (c35xG)

338 Now for Obama for Interrogation watch the Moon bats Melt like with Dorthy and the Wicked Witch

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 05, 2025 06:28 PM (wGqjj)

339 Maybe they can shoot her into space. I mean, really into space this time, not like the Blue Origin farce. On a one way trip.

Posted by: Craig Pirrong at August 05, 2025 06:44 PM (vFerH)

340 305

Better. No Commies for one. No WW2 with its nukes. No firebombing of major cities. No Great Depression, and instead a strong recession now forgotten.

The British Empire would still be around, smaller probably, but still very large.

Israel might be in Madagaskar which would be better for pretty much everyone. Even the Jews. Its fairly easy, if you want to, to seal off an island from unfriendly visitors. Note: Starmer, I said, if you WANT to.

Christianity would be even more dominant now than before as the use of logic and the power of hope would be stronger.

Hopefully, America would realize that overseas trade was not the end all, and leave it to the more dominant English. Instead, they'd focus on developing the Mississippi River Basin, which as Mark Twain pointed out was the best piece of land in the world for size and arability. Instead of being Bicoastal and Flyover Country; America would be the M river along with its tributaries like the Ohio, Missouri, Tennessee, and this would be the center of gravity of America.

Posted by: Eric2 at August 05, 2025 10:41 PM (q7Vou)

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