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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | THE MORNING RANT – EU Capitulates to Trump’s Tariff Agenda: Why Aren’t Free Traders Touting How Great This Is for Europe?How one-sided is it? • Tariffs on most products being imported to the US from Europe will increase from about 1% to 15%. • Tariffs on vehicles being imported to the U.S. will increase from 2.5% to 15%. The short-term impact of this will be more tariff revenue for the U.S., which will be eaten by European manufacturers if they want to sell their cars here. The long-term impact of this will be the movement of European car manufacturing to the US, bringing manufacturing jobs to the US, and costing the EU jobs. • The 50% tariff that Trump imposed on steel, aluminum, and copper imports will remain in place. • The EU will roughly double the amount of US energy that it imports, to about $750 billion per year. • European manufacturers will commit to $600 billion in capital expenditures for industrial development in the US. • The EU will eliminate tariffs on products exported from the US to Europe. This is a staggering reversal of the unfair trade practices that existed before – trade practices that helped crush American manufacturing, but were celebrated by “Principled Free Traders” who rejoiced at every American job lost to “free trade.” Of course, what existed before wasn’t “free trade” at all, it was unilateral surrender to foreign mercantilism. However, the Principled Free Traders repeatedly told us that surrendering to non-reciprocal, one-sided trade was a beautiful thing because: - American consumers get lower prices! The free traders didn’t even care if the lower-cost of imports was due to price-supports from unfriendly foreign governments. - Trade that eliminates American manufacturing jobs allows American labor to be better deployed to “thinking” jobs rather than to manual labor. - Tariffs are a tax on consumers. If the US had imposed counter-tariffs, that would have been a “tax on consumers.” - A utopian global economy requires an upfront American capitulation to set the example of how other countries should behave in a libertarian world without economic borders. David Harsanyi articulates the globalist, America-last position in his frequent writings about the beauty of surrendering to non-reciprocal “free trade.” At the Washington Examiner a few months ago he wrote, “Trade isn’t fair. Americans should pray it never gets fair.” He added, “Trade allows average working-class Americans to buy all kinds of things they could not otherwise afford because of trade. Forcing working-class Americans to make things foreigners or machines can make cheaper only undermines the creation of better jobs for them and their children.” It seems to me that the EU’s capitulation to Trump has put Europe in the position that free traders always advocated for the US. Shouldn’t this trade deal therefore be great news for Europe per free trader logic? The EU is eliminating tariffs on goods imported from the US. This will relieve citizens in the EU of a “tax on consumers,” right? With tariffs lifted on goods imported from the US. average working class Europeans will now be able “to buy all kinds of things they could not otherwise afford because of trade,” correct? Working class Europeans losing their jobs to Americans will allow those displaced workers the opportunity for “the creation of better jobs for them and their children.” But strangely enough, the same globalist and intellectual class that celebrates American surrender on trade is not celebrating European surrender to the US. Here is a typical headline, this one from The Guardian: “US - EU trade deal is a ‘dark day’ for Europe, says French PM” In this CBS piece titled “Did the U.S. or the EU emerge as the winner in Trump trade deal?” it quotes the Société Générale as stating "It is an asymmetric and unbalanced deal," while adding, “The EU decided neither to retaliate nor to increase its tariffs, and is even expected to reduce them. The EU agreed to a bad deal rather than risk trade war escalation." Aside from lost jobs and public humiliation, the EU’s trade capitulation is also expected to negatively affect its GDP, with Goldman Sachs estimating a 0.4% hit to the EU’s GDP. How much is 0.4%? It comes out to about $775 billion of GDP being transferred from the EU to the US. Per Bloomberg: “Trump’s EU – US Trade Deal Could Cost Europe for Years to Come”EU-US tariff agreement ends near term uncertainty in Europe, but the bloc’s humiliation undermines its future. Yet there is no hiding that this was a thoroughly bad deal for the EU. When the UK [which is not a part of the EU] agreed to a 10% tariff, Brussels insisted it would never accept such humiliating terms. Now the EU has failed to negotiate even this.I fully expect to read plenty of think pieces from globalist, free-trade outlets such as the Wall Street Journal and National Review decrying this trade deal as bad for the US. I could write it for them. “Trump bad.” Tariffs are a tax on consumers.” “Manufacturing is a poor use of labor.” “Economic nationalism is bad.” Etcetera, etc. Here is my challenge to those globalist mouthpieces of American economic surrender. Instead of (or in addition to) bashing Trump and this trade deal, try writing some pieces about how great this trade deal is for Europe, because the EU’s capitulation is an embrace of everything that Principled Free Traders have prescribed for the US. It’s long overdue for the General Motors’ board to put the EV distraction behind them. If Mary Barra won’t do it, then they need to find a CEO who will.It’s behind a paywall, but if you’re a Blaze subscriber, I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.
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Soonge!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:00 AM (bDxU9) 2
Sponge! Crap
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:00 AM (bDxU9) 3
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) 4
ESPONJA!!11!!!111! Posted by: AltonJackson at August 04, 2025 11:01 AM (tljrc) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) 6
>>>Ursula von der Leyen, the President of the European Commission, was compelled to make trade concessions that come across as near-total capitulation to Trump’s terms. She had no choice.
And he got her to say that he was being fair. Classic Trump. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:02 AM (i24o9) 7
Nyah!
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 04, 2025 11:02 AM (ASt0K) 8
European manufacturers will commit to $600 billion in capital expenditures for industrial development in the US.
— This part is kinda bullshit. The EU government can’t force manufactures to do this. They can “commit to” anything they want. But there’s no guarantee they’ll invest any of it. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 04, 2025 11:03 AM (EB4n3) 9
yes, it was always bass ackwards.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 04, 2025 11:03 AM (vbXSk) 10
Characteristically, Canada is being led by a bunch of liberal assholes.
I want Trump to punish us with tariffs so hard, bad and long that humiliated Canadian leaders beg for mercy. And when they go to the White House, I want Trump to be playing the theme from 'Deliverance.' Just for Laughs. Posted by: Posted by: Stateless - VERY GRATEFUL, BLESSED, LOVED AND HAPPY! -- - New Life Creation - 17.2% at August 04, 2025 11:04 AM (jvJvP) 11
Trump just announced he is raising the tariffs on India because they buy Russian oil and then resell it making a big profit and funding Putin's war.
The Find Out stage is way more fun. Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2025 11:04 AM (viF8m) 12
Ursula von der Leyen, Supreme Leader of the Eunuch Cabal.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 04, 2025 11:04 AM (ASt0K) 13
It does seem like the trade policy of the past 35 years has been:
'America bends over and takes it up the ass while giving away everything.' 'Fair trade'. Fucking bullshit. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:04 AM (bss/y) 14
Government Motors isn't in the business of making money for shareholders.
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (fVmgO) 15
Yeah according to all the “experts” the US is the only country in the known universe where Tarriffs hurt the economy. Everywhere else weirdly enough? Tariffs are good. And getting rid of them is a bad thing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (EB4n3) 16
Thx Buck.
If the countries of the EU object to this deal it could lead to the EU falling apart. Either way it's a victory for us Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (9hqnJ) 17
>>This part is kinda bullshit. The EU government can’t force manufactures to do this. They can “commit to” anything they want. But there’s no guarantee they’ll invest any of it.
Also no guarantee Trump won't raise their tariffs. Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (viF8m) 18
Government Motors isn't in the business of making money for shareholders.
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (fVmgO) It's in the business of paying union functionally illiterates exorbitant amounts of money and benefits for doing as little as possible. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:06 AM (Zz0t1) 19
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 04, 2025 11:04 AM (ASt0K)
Most recent blue angel is nice. For some reason, 3rd one makes me think of the Baroness. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:06 AM (bss/y) 20
It’s one sided in that now it’s balanced .
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:06 AM (VofaG) 21
It’s long overdue for the General Motors’ board to put the EV distraction behind them. If Mary Barra won’t do it, then they need to find a CEO who will.
The exec boards of all Big 3 need to be removed and repatriated to another country. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:07 AM (Zz0t1) 22
16 Thx Buck.
If the countries of the EU object to this deal it could lead to the EU falling apart. Either way it's a victory for us Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (9hqnJ) EU was always an unelected bureaucrat/technocrat wet dream. All of the power- no accountability. TBF, they should have killed everyone in Brussels BEFORE the migrant crisis. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (bss/y) 23
I want Trump to punish us with tariffs so hard, bad and long that humiliated Canadian leaders beg for mercy.
And when they go to the White House, I want Trump to be playing the theme from 'Deliverance.' Just for Laughs. Posted by: Posted by: Stateless ________ He should use Santana's tune Winning at events. Great mood setter, plus it would piss off Santana. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (XvL8K) 24
Soonge!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:00 AM (bDxU9) Meh. I've been called worse. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:01 AM (Zz0t1) Could have been Spooge Posted by: Doof at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (wkXwO) 25
This part is kinda bullshit. The EU government can’t force manufactures to do this. They can “commit to” anything they want. But there’s no guarantee they’ll invest any of it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at August 04, 2025 11:03 AM (EB4n3) They are government subsidized which was part of the problem. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (VofaG) 26
If the countries of the EU object to this deal it could lead to the EU falling apart. Either way it's a victory for us
Posted by: Smell the Glove Honestly, if the EU fell apart most of Europe would likely be better off. It's really only the Eurocrats that benefit as it is. Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (OUMaO) 27
With General Motors’ CEO Mary Barra remaining committed to an all-EV future, it’s fair to start asking who she is beholden to, since it is clearly not GM’s customers, dealers, or shareholders.
"Stakeholders", doncha know. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (xTIDn) 28
>> It does seem like the trade policy of the past 35 years has been:
>>'America bends over and takes it up the ass while giving away everything.' I've been doing international business for a long time. It's really difficult to compete when your own government is sticking knives in your back. Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (viF8m) 29
What's good for General Bullmoose is good for the USA.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2025 11:09 AM (63Dwl) 30
Thx Buck.
If the countries of the EU object to this deal it could lead to the EU falling apart. Either way it's a victory for us Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (9hqnJ) Is the EU still manufacturing anything besides wine, spirits, and government-built aircraft? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (z8o1N) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (Zz0t1) 32
I fully expect to read plenty of think pieces from globalist, free-trade outlets such as the Wall Street Journal and National Review decrying this trade deal as bad for the US.
I don't. Oh, I'm sure they will be written but I don't expect to read them. Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (/y8xj) 33
Now that Ireland is requesting military action against Israel in Gaza, tariffs on Irish goods should be raised to 300%.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (xTIDn) 34
GM-Mark of Insolence!
Posted by: Cadillac Cimarron Fan at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (G5+As) 35
There is no chance the US can march the quality of rugs hand-knotted by child slaves in the Indian carpet belt.
Posted by: Oglebay at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (MMp6W) 36
Wowww
Posted by: OkJohn at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (HRuex) 37
Soonge!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:00 AM (bDxU9) Meh. I've been called worse. Posted by: Sponge Sorry. Fat thumb, small keyboard. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (bDxU9) 38
Now that Ireland is requesting military action against Israel in Gaza, tariffs on Irish goods should be raised to 300%.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (xTIDn) What do the Irish make besides booze? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: pookysgirl, with the grammatical equations at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (Wt5PA) 40
Soon! + Sponge! = Soonge! Posted by: pookysgirl, with the grammatical equations at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (Wt5PA) I like it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (Zz0t1) 41
It seems to me that the EU’s capitulation to Trump has put Europe in the position that free traders always advocated for the US.
"But we didn't want Trump to do it! That just makes it bad!" Posted by: NR Pax at August 04, 2025 11:12 AM (lXoJ5) 42
Aside from lost jobs and public humiliation, the EU’s trade capitulation is also expected to negatively affect its GDP, with Goldman Sachs estimating a 0.4% hit to the EU’s GDP. How much is 0.4%? It comes out to about $775 billion of GDP being transferred from the EU to the US.
I think I'm missing something here, or there is an unspecified period of time involved. If $775B is 0.4%, that means their GDP is $194T, which it isn't. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:12 AM (Riz8t) 43
What do the Irish make besides booze?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (Zz0t1) Only thing I like about Ireland is they like to sing. So it’s ironic I guess that I don’t like U2. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:13 AM (VofaG) Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2025 11:13 AM (fVmgO) 45
Could have been Spooge
Posted by: Doof at August 04, 2025 11:08 AM (wkXwO) Or Spmonge.... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (Zz0t1) HAHA! I had forgotten about that. Even though the folder does still exist on my laptop. Posted by: Doof at August 04, 2025 11:13 AM (wkXwO) 46
What do the Irish make besides booze?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:11 AM (Zz0t1) Red-headed, red-nosed assholes? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:14 AM (z8o1N) 47
In lighter news, the First Lady is off with a friend to the Texas coast for a week. The First Daughter will meet them there today and spend the week as well.
She needs some time to relax and not worry about things for a bit before the next round of bullshit that awaits us. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:14 AM (Zz0t1) 48
The Three Stoonges were an under-appreciated comedy act.
Posted by: Bulg at August 04, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ) 49
Doof and his Pickleball Cabal should be exported to the EU. Spreading the poison might dilute it.
Posted by: Fair Trade at August 04, 2025 11:14 AM (G5+As) 50
Looks good on paper. Now, where will the 750B of energy come from ? And...is Ursula von der Blackforest Ham in a position to make deals for all of Europe ?
Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (g47mK) 51
HAHA! I had forgotten about that. Even though the folder does still exist on my laptop.
Posted by: Doof at August 04, 2025 11:13 AM (wkXwO) There's a lot of good stuff in there you should take along on your road trip. Just sayin....... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Zz0t1) 52
If the Irish want action against Israel they should send the Muslim invaders of Ireland to the Middle East to fight. And tell the Israelis when and where they'll be
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (9hqnJ) 53
Government Motors isn't in the business of making money for shareholders.
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (fVmgO) It's in the business of paying union functionally illiterates exorbitant amounts of money and benefits for doing as little as possible. You say that like it's a bad thing. F*** you! Pay me. Posted by: The UAW at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Riz8t) 54
The battle ain’t over. The Leftists here will continue to try a drive the economy down by any means possible.
The Ends always Justify the Means for them. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (VofaG) 55
Red-headed, red-nosed assholes?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:14 AM (z8o1N) We've got plenty of those here and shouldn't have a need to import them from elsewhere. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Zz0t1) 56
I think its fair to say that the powers that be worldwide aren't interested in "free trade" or the best life for those that they lead. They are interested solely in *power*.
"1984" wasn't a how-to guide. But Orwell so understood human nature that almost every governing body runs part or most of the 1984 playbook. And its not just overseas. "Our" republicans just months ago were asserting that we had to have "bi-partisan" legislation to seal the border, rescue the economy, etc etc etc...when Trump just proved that all we REALLY needed was the will to act. Posted by: Crusader at August 04, 2025 11:16 AM (TN0g+) 57
There's a lot of good stuff in there you should take along on your road trip. Just sayin.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (Zz0t1) *fist bump* Posted by: Doof at August 04, 2025 11:16 AM (wkXwO) 58
unless it is 750B over a number of years - 10, 15 whatever; then it would make sense
Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:16 AM (g47mK) 59
I love it when the trolls try to speak English and make arguments.
Stick to your one line poopy jokes and crying about Anne Frank. More credible. Posted by: ... at August 04, 2025 11:17 AM (jRYyy) 60
It makes sense that any productive country would have the EU over a barrel, because the EU doesn't produce anything anymore. They're killing off their farms, they're destabilizing their energy grid, and they're constantly importing welfare leeches with no work ethic.
Posted by: pookysgirl would still like to tour a castle someday at August 04, 2025 11:17 AM (Wt5PA) 61
I fully expect to read plenty of think pieces from globalist, free-trade outlets such as the Wall Street Journal and National Review decrying this trade deal as bad for the US.
------------ Thanks, Buck. The think piece gymnastics by the usual legacy media that oppose all things Trump, should be amusing. Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2025 11:17 AM (2bFN5) 62
Is the EU still manufacturing anything besides wine, spirits, and government-built aircraft?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (z8o1N) Automobiles, heavy equipment, a number of luxury brands, chemicals, robotics and electrical equipment are the biggies I can think of. The problem with a centralized economy like the EU is that everything is directed by the bureaucracy, so they only choose proven winners to invest in. Not a lot of risk taking because that is expensive. Posted by: Kindltot at August 04, 2025 11:17 AM (rbvCR) 63
What do the Irish make besides booze?
Tourism. Ireland doesn't have the climate of France or Italy, but it has always gotten a lot of tourism from the Irish diaspora. This is now crashing, since overseas Irish nostalgic for the Auld Sod aren't particularly interested in visiting a Middle Eastern city, which Dublin is turning into; or an Islamic country, which Ireland is turning into. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:17 AM (xTIDn) 64
SPONGE!!!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:17 AM (dPfyF) 65
Although the baroness was a brunette...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:18 AM (bss/y) 66
soonge > artificial sponge?
Posted by: Gref at August 04, 2025 11:18 AM (aBgBM) 67
44 >>What do the Irish make besides booze?
Any parent with a daughter who does Irish Dance knows the answer to this. All dancers MUST wear dresses and get-ups imported from Ireland at over $500 a pop. I'm so glad I don't have to finance my grandaughter's habit. Posted by: Leaves Me Flatley at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (G5+As) 68
Government Motors isn't in the business of making money for shareholders.
Posted by: garrett GM is a pension plan that occasionally builds cars. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (Md8SB) 69
If the countries of the EU object to this deal it could lead to the EU falling apart. Either way it's a victory for us
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 04, 2025 11:05 AM (9hqnJ) I think that's a pretty good possibility. The EU was always touted as a way to counterbalance US power...never Russian or Chinese. Now, that that's proven to be a total and absolute fail,(via Trump tariffs and Ukraine fecklessness and muslim invasion)) there's no real reason to stay in the EU. Plus, who's going to pay for all of their social nonsense programs? They, as nations, need all that cash that the EU sucks away from them to give to fat-assed, commie bureaucrats of no account. If a major country or two pull out the whole thing will unravel. Frankly, with the horrible job they've been doing and the history of European countries in general, I'm surprised the lampposts of Brussel aren't already festooned with the bodies of EU bureaucrats. It's an experiment that's failed and failed badly. Time to call it quits. Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (iJfKG) 70
Red-headed, red-nosed assholes?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:14 AM (z8o1N) We've got plenty of those here and shouldn't have a need to import them from elsewhere. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM Hell, we have enough of those in Boston. We don't need any more. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (dPfyF) 71
Only thing I like about Ireland is they like to sing. So it’s ironic I guess that I don’t like U2.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:13 AM (VofaG) I don;t like them either, but their name is perfect, because when I say fuck U2 it just sounds right. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (snZF9) 72
Ok, it does cover the entirety of Trump's term and inlcudes oil, LNG and nukkelar tech. So it might make sense.
Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (g47mK) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (bDxU9) 75
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (YgT+X)
It’s an obvious typo numb nuts. The EU imports about 300 billion total each year. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (VofaG) 76
The EU government can’t force manufactures to do this.
Sure they can. For example, the EU says that Apple has to use USB-C for charging and data cables rather than their proprietary Lightning cable. Apple now uses USB-C for charging and data cables rather than their proprietary Lightning cable. The EU says that social media companies, even American social media companies, have to censor the speech of EU citizens. That one is still playing out but I bet governments win. Government v business always goes in government's favor. If it appears otherwise, you're missing something. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e) 77
Frankly, with the horrible job they've been doing and the history of European countries in general, I'm surprised the lampposts of Brussel aren't already festooned with the bodies of EU bureaucrats.
I think it's a race between GB and the EU as to who gets the decorations first. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM (Riz8t) 78
Hell, we have enough of those in Boston. We don't need any more. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (dPfyF) My niece is currently there. I will tell her to avoid those that look like her brother. ![]() Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM (Zz0t1) 79
Is the EU still manufacturing anything besides wine, spirits, and government-built aircraft?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons They still make cruise ships and high speed trains. Also, precision manufacturing equipment. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM (Md8SB) 80
What do the Irish make besides booze?
Posted by: Sponge Bad decisions. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (bDxU9) at one time they made good terrorists... Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM (g47mK) 81
Mary Barra has sat on the board of the Disney Co. over the long course of its descent into woke mediocrity, apparently never uttering a critical word about the company's destruction.
So of course she is 100% behind driving GM into an all-electric obscurity. Girlbosses rule. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM (dDmld) 82
Heh. The rationale for outsourcing manufacturing is that it is cheaper in countries with less onerous envriro regs and less costly labor. So why should European companies make anything in Europe, they have even more red tape than the U.S. and if their hourly labor is not higher than ours I'm sure all the generous vacation, and other leave that is mandated makes the yearly labor costs much higher.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 04, 2025 11:22 AM (bP/i4) Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 04, 2025 11:22 AM (Zz0t1) 84
It's an experiment that's failed and failed badly. Time to call it quits.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM Noooo!!!! Posted by: Belgium at August 04, 2025 11:22 AM (dPfyF) 85
at one time they made good terrorists...
Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM (g47mK) Failed revolutionaries. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (i24o9) 86
I don;t like them either, but their name is perfect, because when I say fuck U2 it just sounds right. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (snZF9) Every bit of this right here. This guy. He gets it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (Zz0t1) 87
So it's ok for Europe to tax the hell out of us but we are the bad guys for trying to equal things out some. With "friends" like them.......
Posted by: Case at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (fSxdA) 88
33 Now that Ireland is requesting military action against Israel in Gaza, tariffs on Irish goods should be raised to 300%.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (xTIDn) ---------- I stopped buying Irish whiskey, which is the only thing Ireland seems to export. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (dDmld) 89
My niece is currently there. I will tell her to avoid those that look like her brother.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:21 AM Nice. She picked a good time. The weather up here is pretty good for a change. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (dPfyF) 90
It's about time the US quit funding the socialist layabouts in Europe. There's no way the one-sided trade in place before wasn't doing exactly that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM (Q4IgG) 91
Most recent blue angel is nice.
For some reason, 3rd one makes me think of the Baroness. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:06 AM (bss/y) I'm kind of surprised the first one, "Send me an angel, right now" or, as I like to call it, "Angel Upskirt" wasn't put behind the NSFW flag. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM (ExV1e) 92
What do the Irish make besides booze?
Posted by: Sponge Bad decisions. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:20 AM (bDxU9) at one time they made good terrorists... Posted by: runner With so many workplace accidents, they've had to import terrorists from the middle east. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM (bDxU9) 93
Nice. She picked a good time. The weather up here is pretty good for a change. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (dPfyF) Ah. Good to know. We're hoping she has a good time. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM (Zz0t1) 94
So it's ok for Europe to tax the hell out of us but we are the bad guys for trying to equal things out some. With "friends" like them.......
Posted by: Case at August 04, 2025 11:23 AM (fSxdA) It's not surprising that Trump has accomplished such reversals. It is stunning at how easy it appears to be, if there is a will. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM (i24o9) 95
Is the EU still manufacturing anything besides wine, spirits, and government-built aircraft?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:10 AM (z8o1N) Migrant housing. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (ExV1e) 96
I don;t like them either, but their name is perfect, because when I say fuck U2 it just sounds right.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (snZF9) —————— Damn right! Posted by: Lt Col Frank Slade at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (u73oe) 97
I'm kind of surprised the first one, "Send me an angel, right now" or, as I like to call it, "Angel Upskirt" wasn't put behind the NSFW flag.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM (ExV1e) Yeah, I was wondering on that one. Enlarged, I think it is an AI miscue that makes it look like she is not wearing panties. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (bss/y) 98
Is the EU still manufacturing anything besides wine, spirits, and government-built aircraft?
Excuses. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t) 99
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 04, 2025 11:15 AM (YgT+X)
----------- The classic - ignore 99% of the writing, all the facts and focus/gloat on a typo strategy. Bold superiority self-ego stroke. Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (2bFN5) 100
Twenty-five years ago, the US and EU economies were about the same size.
Now, the US economy is about fifty percent larger than the EU economy. The EU Ruling Class has throttled the economy of the EU through incredible overregulation; but the EU Ruling Class is fixing this by complete suppression of freedom of speech, while bringing in a population far more compliant to a totalitarian government than the local indigenous population. As Mark Steyn noted today about the profound changes currently happening in Europe: This is happening because the people in charge want it to happen. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (xTIDn) 101
It’s long overdue for the General Motors’ board to put the EV distraction behind them. If Mary Barra won’t do it, then they need to find a CEO who will.
>>>>>>>>> Female CEO is not swayed by facts and results. She's living "her truth". Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (N1DT3) 102
One more step on the road back to eminence that has been abandoned. This is America, we deserve no less than acknowledgement that we are indeed the most exceptional country on this planet, and this is the man who will make it happen.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (hKoQL) 103
The classic - ignore 99% of the writing, all the facts and focus/gloat on a typo strategy. Bold superiority self-ego stroke.
Posted by: scampydog at August 04, 2025 11:25 AM (2bFN5) Well, rumor has it, he eats his own poo. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (Zz0t1) 104
The downside is the price of Vespa's will go up. The cost of Bedazzlers likely will increase. Garrett and Ace hardest hit.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (W3T6M) 105
Plus, who's going to pay for all of their social nonsense programs? They, as nations, need all that cash that the EU sucks away from them to give to fat-assed, commie bureaucrats of no account. If a major country or two pull out the whole thing will unravel.
Frankly, with the horrible job they've been doing and the history of European countries in general, I'm surprised the lampposts of Brussel aren't already festooned with the bodies of EU bureaucrats. It's an experiment that's failed and failed badly. Time to call it quits. Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 11:19 AM (iJfKG) They will impose capital controls, crash the EU Economy, impose a central bank digital Euro, consolidate all the "national" central banks to Brussels, and force all the "national" funds to invest in a Eurobond to soak up all the currency printing they need to fund the government. Don't sneer at them, this is the final stage of fiat, which was created by pretending there wasn't a default in 1918 I have no idea what is going to happen after that, but the money had run out and the mechanism for kiting the debt is running out of time. Posted by: Kindltot at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (rbvCR) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2025 11:27 AM (63Dwl) 107
Ah. Good to know. We're hoping she has a good time.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:24 AM The weather looks great this week. Here's hoping she enjoys it. Boston really is a good city to visit. Apart from the people, that is. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:27 AM (dPfyF) 108
OT: after 35 years, sit ups still suck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y) 109
105 The downside is the price of Vespa's will go up. The cost of Bedazzlers likely will increase. Garrett and Ace hardest hit.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (W3T6M) Remember pubic bedazzling, or Vagizalling? That was a thing for a bit there. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:28 AM (bss/y) 110
OT: after 35 years, sit ups still suck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y) Planks are better. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:28 AM (VofaG) 111
This is a staggering reversal of the unfair trade practices that existed before – trade practices that helped crush American manufacturing, but were celebrated by “Principled Free Traders” who rejoiced at every American job lost to “free trade.”
-------------- The Marshall Plan Is Morte! Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan Is Morte! at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (NV+BS) 112
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What do the Irish make besides booze? Posted by: Sponge Trouble -------------- They make sweaters and tweed clothing, rite? Linen as well. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (W3T6M) 113
Heh. The rationale for outsourcing manufacturing is that it is cheaper in countries with less onerous envriro regs and less costly labor. So why should European companies make anything in Europe, they have even more red tape than the U.S. and if their hourly labor is not higher than ours I'm sure all the generous vacation, and other leave that is mandated makes the yearly labor costs much higher.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 04, 2025 11:22 AM (bP/i4) I am told German companies are outsourcing some manufacturing to the US for that reason, the US has cheaper rules, and has the technical and QA to get it right. Posted by: Kindltot at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (rbvCR) 114
OT: after 35 years, sit ups still suck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y) The hot dog diet got me SHHHRRREEEDDDDEDDDD. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (xG4kz) Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG) 117
108 It’s the drivers you have to worry about in Boston.
Posted by: Bulg at August 04, 2025 11:30 AM (77rzZ) 118
The weather looks great this week. Here's hoping she enjoys it. Boston really is a good city to visit. Apart from the people, that is.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:27 AM (dPfyF) Heh. Good deal. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:30 AM (Zz0t1) 119
Enya is second only to U2 in Irish musicians making money. She is the spawn of the very musically talented Brennan family of Dublin. She owns a castle, has never spawned or wed herself, and is now a 63 year old cat lady. Sad. Ireland in a nutshell.
Posted by: Down With EU! at August 04, 2025 11:30 AM (G5+As) 120
>>It's about time the US quit funding the socialist layabouts in Europe. There's no way the one-sided trade in place before wasn't doing exactly that.
The worst part of it was the unearned arrogance of many in Europe. I met some great people in Europe over the years and made some good friends but there is a large contingent that looks down their nose at us while we fund their ridiculous social net. Uncle Sugar is over. Posted by: JackStraw at August 04, 2025 11:30 AM (viF8m) 121
The Irish used to make DeLoreans.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG) She don't lie..... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:30 AM (Zz0t1) 122
"They're killing off their farms, they're destabilizing their energy grid, and they're constantly importing welfare leeches with no work ethic."
Watching some of these travelogues of Europe, I do wonder what they produce. But these mountain towns always have tourists dumping money in from outside, and in the flatter areas, they probably have Muslims doing a lot of the greenhouse and manufacturing work, idk. Tariffs and Muslims and War, oh my. Posted by: illiniwek at August 04, 2025 11:30 AM (vbXSk) 123
Planks are better.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:28 AM (VofaG) I get that, but I like the active exercises. Plus, I am old fashioned. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y) 124
I am told German companies are outsourcing some manufacturing to the US for that reason, the US has cheaper rules, and has the technical and QA to get it right.
And the cost of electricity is far lower in the United States than in Germany. Despite the efforts of the greenies to wreck the US electrical system, they haven't quite succeeded yet. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (xTIDn) 125
Great movie about Ireland is Black 47.
It’s John Wick of 1847. Another about Irish terrorism is The Foreigner with Jackie Chan. His best movie by far. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (VofaG) 126
Enya is second only to U2 in Irish musicians making money. She is the spawn of the very musically talented Brennan family of Dublin. She owns a castle, has never spawned or wed herself, and is now a 63 year old cat lady. Sad. Ireland in a nutshell.
Posted by: Down With EU! Celtic Woman. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (bDxU9) 127
I get that, but I like the active exercises. Plus, I am old fashioned. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y) Then you should already be in good shape from all that walking uphill, both ways, in the snow. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (Zz0t1) 128
A Pennsylvania funeral home gave a couple their deceased son's personal belongings, and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (RHGPo) 129
One of the many reasons I am all in for rebuilding our manufacturing base here is that it will shift the "emphasis" on our economy being based on "thinking jobs" and back to jobs that involve more than sitting at a desk all day staring at a computer monitor.
We seem to have a problem producing enough "thinkers" and have resorted to borrowing them from elsewhere just to keep up. Our rotten educational system is really doing a great deal of harm to our county's future. This needs to change. We need many more jobs here that don't require a four year degree to have a reasonablely decent lifestyle. The teacher's unions need to be broken. Posted by: pawn at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (QB+5g) 130
Kentucky Faces Massive Job Loss as 3 Major Whiskey Distilleries Go Bankrupt (good time for Canada to tariff them). Because fuck 'em.
"Garrard County Distilling, Kentucky Owl's parent Stoli Group, and Luca Mariano Distillery filed for bankruptcy between November 2024 and July 2025." Weird how a clickbait article framed as a tariff issue had nothing to do with tariffs at all. I'm confused. Now we are actively rooting for American job losses and internal failure? "Fuck em" ? WTF, these are Americans Do you think we should be nice to the confederates? They will NEVER vote for anyone other than a Repug. We are down to us or them now. It's not clickbait. It's a current story of distilleries having trouble selling their booze. It would be a good time to hit them with tariffs. You know, to add to the misery in Kentucky, a very red state. Karma. We keep telling a huge voting block to FAFO, mock them when they lose their jobs, the tell them to go straight to hell. Then act all perplexed next election when they vote for the opposition... I'm a red state Democrat. People need to feel the pain caused by their votes to change. Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz) 131
117 The Irish used to make DeLoreans.
-------------- What a piece of shit. A 130hp performance car that you can't roll down the windows cuz gull wings. The interior looks like my 1983 Oldsmobile interior. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:33 AM (W3T6M) 132
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‘ She owns a castle, has never spawned or wed herself, and is now a 63 year old cat lady.’ Thirty years from now some muslim will be living in that castle. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:33 AM (jbnUc) Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2025 11:33 AM (wVcYX) 134
There have been more BMWs built in South Carolina than in Deutschland for over a decade.
Posted by: Nancy Mace at August 04, 2025 11:33 AM (G5+As) 135
A Pennsylvania funeral home gave a couple their deceased son's personal belongings, and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (RHGPo) Goes good with a nice Chianti. Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at August 04, 2025 11:33 AM (Zz0t1) 136
The downside is the price of Vespa's will go up. The cost of Bedazzlers likely will increase. Garrett and Ace hardest hit.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:26 AM (W3T6M) Crocs and messenger bags...don't forget them! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (n9ltV) 137
Forcing working-class Americans to make things foreigners or machines can make cheaper...
And make them cheaper they do. Ask anybody who has to buy one of these 'cheaper' products that used to last for decades and now kick the bucket right after the warranty ends. TVs, Computers, Dishwashers, Clothes Washers & Dryers, Cars & Trucks. Thank God these cheaper products are so cheap you can now buy three of them over the course of years to replace the old 'expensive' American-made kinds that lasted twenty or thirty years before they needed to be replaced. And now you also get to hear that wonderful sentence: "It will cost you more to repair it than just going out and buying g a brand new new one." Yes, we are blessed with 'cheap' these days, aren't we? Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (6ydKt) 138
What are the odds Ursula von der Leyen smells funny? I’d give 5-1.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (jbnUc) 139
Tariffs are a tax on consumers.
_______ Tariffs are a tax on production that's been outsourced to countries with cheap wages and zero environmental standards. We don't live in an Adam Smith world where England imports oranges and cotton and exports textiles because of innate production advantages. In the modern world, China has an advantage due to slave labor, a high tolerance for industrial pollution, and currency manipulation. That's what 'free trade' subsidizes. Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (6o/ca) 140
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz)
Kentucky has a Dem governor . Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (VofaG) 141
101 Twenty-five years ago, the US and EU economies were about the same size.
Now, the US economy is about fifty percent larger than the EU economy. The EU Ruling Class has throttled the economy of the EU through incredible overregulation; but the EU Ruling Class is fixing this by complete suppression of freedom of speech, while bringing in a population far more compliant to a totalitarian government than the local indigenous population. As Mark Steyn noted today about the profound changes currently happening in Europe: This is happening because the people in charge want it to happen. Posted by: The ARC of History! ======== Yes. And the self immolation of GM and Ford (or Disney for that matter) is purposefully directed from our own Eco Stazi--State Street, Blackrock, and Vanguard. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (ctrM5) 142
We are down to us or them now.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz) This guy gets it. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (i24o9) 143
A Pennsylvania funeral home gave a couple their deceased son's personal belongings, and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes
Posted by: SMOD That was smart. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (bDxU9) 144
Do you think we should be nice to the confederates? They will NEVER vote for anyone other than a Repug. We are down to us or them now.
== 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is the depth of historical knowledge on the left, who think that Lincoln was a Democrat ! 😂😂😂 Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (g47mK) 145
Trade allows average working-class Americans to buy all kinds of things they could not otherwise afford because of trade
You mean like cars, houses, medical insurance? How come they can’t afford those? The US has essentially been borrowing money from China, and then the government then gives it to say, the Ukraine. After the politicians get their cut. Some of this money is given to “working class” Americans who don’t work. They don’t have a job. Because the jobs are in say, China. We have to make things in America that people want to buy. There is no way around this. The “reserve status” of the US dollar is the only reason this 38 trillion dollar in the hole boondoggle has gone on as long as it has. When it blows up it will be Biblical. Posted by: Common Tater at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (Kjgfl) 146
Here is my challenge to those globalist mouthpieces of American economic surrender. Instead of (or in addition to) bashing Trump and this trade deal, try writing some pieces about how great this trade deal is for Europe, because the EU’s capitulation is an embrace of everything that Principled Free Traders have prescribed for the US.
------------------ Make Europe Principled Again! Posted by: ShainS -- The Marshall Plan Is Morte! at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (NV+BS) 147
The Pennsylvania couple were Mr. and Mrs. Normal, and their son was Abbey?
Posted by: Bulg at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (77rzZ) 148
What do the Irish make besides booze?
Posted by: Sponge Luck? Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2025 11:33 AM (wVcYX) Bad luck ? Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 11:36 AM (g47mK) 149
But strangely enough, the same globalist and intellectual class that celebrates American surrender on trade is not celebrating European surrender to the US. Here is a typical headline, this one from The Guardian: “US - EU trade deal is a ‘dark day’ for Europe, says French PM”
_______ You may be right, but that argument doesn't work, citing the Guardian to refute David Harsanyi. The only relevant citation would be from Harsanyi himself, or from a (mutually) avowed ally of his. I am still withholding judgement. I've always recognized the value of tariffs as strategic weapons; beyond, I'm unconvinced. Posted by: Eeyore at August 04, 2025 11:36 AM (od0dV) 150
Kentucky Faces Massive Job Loss as 3 Major Whiskey Distilleries Go Bankrupt (good time for Canada to tariff them). Because fuck 'em.
There are so many whiskey distillers it isn't even funny. Not counting the boutique distilleries. And people aren't drinking like they used to. Younger set is more into pot. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:36 AM (bDxU9) Posted by: DaveA at August 04, 2025 11:36 AM (FhXTo) 152
The FNM tells me that AI is going to cause massive unemployment.
If that is true wouldn't you really want trade policies that incentivize people to build things here to counter act all those job losses? Posted by: 18-1 at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr) 153
And the cost of electricity is far lower in the United States than in Germany.
German industrial competitiveness was based on cheap Russian natural gas. That's gone now, and Germany now has to import much more expensive LNG from the United States. Tee, hee! Gosh, I wonder why that report on who blew up the Nordstream pipelines never came out? Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (xTIDn) 154
Heaven forbid that we go back to when a single earner household could afford to buy a house and have four children.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (17s+e) 155
The 50% tariff that Trump imposed on steel, aluminum, and copper imports will remain in place.
>> About the same as the tariff regime recently imposed on the PRC's and Canadian metal imports. Wow. The EU has already put high tariffs on China's steel and aluminum. I can't see protectionist Germany agreeing to lower metal tariffs anytime soon. And Canada's "elbows up" trade policy includes selling their rolled steel "somewhere". LOLOL. Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (rj6Yv) 156
Kentucky has a Dem governor . Posted by: polynikes ========= Really bad investigation and lawsuits covering Kentucky State Police individual and institutional bad behavior. As in criminal charges for some KSP troopers and a clear indication that top brass knew and covered up bad behavior by officers. Basically any use of force by officers that had to be reported resulted in automatic obstruction and resisting arrest charges. Beshears and his daddy (a previous governor) are up to their eyeballs in these civil rights violations (and the reason DU never heard about it is because a lot of the cases involve young white males.) Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5) 157
You can't vote for me, you can't vote against me, but your country will do what I say. I laugh at the "No Mo' Kings" movement!
Posted by: Ursula von der Lyin' at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (LM6Qz) 158
I'm a red state Democrat. People need to feel the pain caused by their votes to change.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz) That’s why everyone is fleeing their blue state shitholes for Red States right? They always take what conservatives say about the Left and try to turn it around and make it theirs. Unfortunately the facts don’t allow it to work unless you’re delusional. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:38 AM (VofaG) 159
Enya's family formed Clannad, which Enya left. Pretty got money made by that clan
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (9hqnJ) 160
Do you think we should be nice to the confederates? Irrespective of individuals' preferences at the time, Kentucky never was a state in the Confederacy. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (xG4kz) 161
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‘ and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes’ That’s supposed to go in the wooden box. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (jbnUc) 162
EVs only really make sense for urban dwellers that need something small to take them to the office with rare trips outside the city.
There is certainly a market for that, but...most people prefer, and in fact need, an ICE car Posted by: 18-1 at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (t0Rmr) 163
Canada's "elbows up" trade policy includes selling their rolled steel "somewhere". LOLOL.
Posted by: mrp ====== Canada's economic plan is essentially dead. They became an assembly point and middleman for Chinese goods and that is now non-operative. What is left is strip mining their natural resources to feed China's mfg machines. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (ctrM5) 164
What are the odds Ursula von der Leyen smells funny? I’d give 5-1.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (jbnUc) I was at a teen conservatory play this weekend, and it was in the 90s outside. Even with the temp AC that was brought in for the show, OMG, the BO was pungent. One little girl in particular, maybe 12-13, I felt so bad for her, as a cloud of BO followed her wherever she went. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (i24o9) 165
Heaven forbid that we go back to when a single earner household could afford to buy a house and have four children.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (17s+e) Back to those dreadful times? Unthinkable! Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2025 11:40 AM (wVcYX) 166
Bucatini is much superior to spaghetti.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M) 167
Undertakers remove corpses’ brains? WTF?
Posted by: Bulg at August 04, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ) 168
Heaven forbid that we go back to when a single earner household could afford to buy a house and have four children.
We kind of have that system already. One of you pays for a house and two kids, and the other pays for a house and six Guatemalan kids. Posted by: t-bird at August 04, 2025 11:42 AM (J2Jn3) 169
In the modern world, China has an advantage due to slave labor, a high tolerance for industrial pollution, and currency manipulation. That's what 'free trade' subsidizes.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (6o/ca) Add to that list the industrial-scale theft of trade secrets. Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 11:42 AM (rj6Yv) 170
Soon! + Sponge! = Soonge!
Posted by: pookysgirl I like it. Posted by: Sponge Now I'm seeing a "soon" meme, but the background pic is just an ocean-floor sponge. No googly eyes or anything. And I'm wondering what Cthulhoid horror awaits us. Posted by: mikeski at August 04, 2025 11:42 AM (QUYX2) 171
141 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz)
Kentucky has a Dem governor . Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (VofaG) Indeed we fucking do. We got rid of a good governor because he was *checks notes* 'mean'. And then we hired this piece of idiotic shit because he was the nut milk of somebody who was governor before and he's *checks notes* not mean. An idiot, but polite? Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:43 AM (bss/y) 172
Because the jobs are in say, China. We have to make things in America that people want to buy. There is no way around this. The “reserve status” of the US dollar is the only reason this 38 trillion dollar in the hole boondoggle has gone on as long as it has. When it blows up it will be Biblical.
Posted by: Common Tater at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (Kjgfl) ------------ As I've frequently noted here over the past decade, the actual GAAP national debt (i.e. with unfunded liabilities included) is likely over $300 trillion now. As you note: it's not a matter of IF ... but WHEN. One of my favorite charts (history of the World's "Reserve" Currency): https://is.gd/phlOqP Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 04, 2025 11:43 AM (NV+BS) 173
We keep telling a huge voting block to FAFO, mock them when they lose their jobs, the tell them to go straight to hell. Then act all perplexed next election when they vote for the opposition...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions "Welp, that's a banning." -- DU mods Posted by: Oddbob at August 04, 2025 11:44 AM (/y8xj) Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:44 AM (i24o9) 175
I'm confused. Now we are actively rooting for American job losses and internal failure? "Fuck em" ? WTF, these are Americans
We keep telling a huge voting block to FAFO, mock them when they lose their jobs, the tell them to go straight to hell. Then act all perplexed next election when they vote for the opposition.. Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz) Those two posters right there are on their way to being red pilled if they keep thinking like this. At least some them don't worship progressive leftism as a religion. Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 04, 2025 11:44 AM (6ydKt) 176
Heaven forbid that we go back to when a single earner household could afford to buy a house and have four children.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 04, 2025 11:37 AM (17s+e) Back to those dreadful times? Unthinkable! Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2025 11:40 AM Big families?! Think of the Earth!!!! REEEEEEEE!!!!!!! - Most leftists, probably Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:44 AM (dPfyF) 177
Heaven forbid that we go back to when a single earner household could afford to buy a house and have four children.
Reasonable tariffs Slash the cost of government Deport the illegals and end immigration for a decade or two Fix HS education Remove the requirement for a college education for anything non-specialized And...you could get back to one wage earner supporting a wife and 4 kids again Posted by: 18-1 at August 04, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr) 178
Harsanyi has been a floppy-dicked ConInc cuck since back when I was a kid in Denver. He was at DP and the Rocky back when it existed.
Colorado Republicans are so supine and submissive as to make the national Party looks vigorous and combative by comparison. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2025 11:45 AM (Fe3xz) 179
I am still withholding judgement. I've always recognized the value of tariffs as strategic weapons; beyond, I'm unconvinced.
Posted by: Eeyore ======= Have you ever actually had training in economics? The truth is almost everything in macroeconomics today is fake, gay, and globohomo. Economics went off the rails with Keynes and his ridiculous equating of paying people (and incurring massive government debt) for useless activity rather than let private industry use them for productive purposes. Ricardo's comparative advantage is widely recognized within the discipline as being that of a dunce making a political argument with economic terminology. Simply put, Ricardian vice is a thing. And so on. Most of the reason for the huge distortion in the economic field is because the biggest market for economists are Wall Street, universities, and government. None have the best interests of the home economy at heart. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:45 AM (ctrM5) 180
Bucatini is much superior to spaghetti.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M) Wear a stylish bib and place a napkin on the lap. Eating a plate of bucatini is not for the dainty. Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 11:46 AM (rj6Yv) 181
Australia made a good semi apocalyptic financial collapse movie called the Rover.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:46 AM (VofaG) 182
And make them cheaper they do.
Ask anybody who has to buy one of these 'cheaper' products that used to last for decades and now kick the bucket right after the warranty ends. TVs, Computers, Dishwashers, Clothes Washers & Dryers, Cars & Trucks. Thank God these cheaper products are so cheap you can now buy three of them over the course of years to replace the old 'expensive' American-made kinds that lasted twenty or thirty years before they needed to be replaced. And now you also get to hear that wonderful sentence: "It will cost you more to repair it than just going out and buying g a brand new new one." Yes, we are blessed with 'cheap' these days, aren't we? Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 04, 2025 11:34 AM (6ydKt) I hope to inherit the refrigerator my wife's parents have in their basement. They inherited it from my father-in-law's mother. 50+ years and still fine. We had to repair a roughly 3 year old refrigerator already. (Just out of warranty) Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 04, 2025 11:46 AM (N1DT3) 183
Another about Irish terrorism is The Foreigner with Jackie Chan. His best movie by far.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM --- It is known that Operation Condor is Jackie's best film. Posted by: Darth Randall at August 04, 2025 11:47 AM (i1b+b) 184
Indeed we fucking do. We got rid of a good governor because he was *checks notes* 'mean'. And then we hired this piece of idiotic shit because he was the nut milk of somebody who was governor before and he's *checks notes* not mean. An idiot, but polite?
Posted by: Aetius451AD ---- I think McConnell and his E. Kentucky/Louisville fraud machine had a hand in it. He hated Matt Bevin for having the audacity to make Mitch work for his reelection in the GOP primary. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5) 185
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‘ Even with the temp AC that was brought in for the show, OMG, the BO was pungent.’ That sounds delightful. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:48 AM (jbnUc) 186
A Pennsylvania funeral home gave a couple their deceased son's personal belongings, and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM (RHGPo) Was the name on the box Abby? Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 04, 2025 11:48 AM (wHwsk) 187
181 Bucatini is much superior to spaghetti.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M) Wear a stylish bib and place a napkin on the lap. Eating a plate of bucatini is not for the dainty. -------------- I rate this as TRUE. That said, it has tooth and gives one the feeling of eating a substantial meal. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:48 AM (W3T6M) 188
Newly Declassified Appendix to Durham Report Sheds Additional Light on Clinton Campaign Plan to Falsely Tie Trump to Russia and FBI’s Failure to Investigate
... so far I haven't heard of anything in the Durham classified appendix that has the earmarks of being classified, except the stuff about sedition and criminality. Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 11:49 AM (RHGPo) 189
Kentucky’s all corrupt because of the thoroughbred racing industry.
Posted by: Bulg at August 04, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ) 190
I hope to inherit the refrigerator my wife's parents have in their basement. They inherited it from my father-in-law's mother.
50+ years and still fine. We had to repair a roughly 3 year old refrigerator already. (Just out of warranty) Posted by: Formerly Virginian ===== Old style Freon never actually caused the hole in the ozone (but DuPont could no longer get paid royalties for production). I think it operates at a much lower pressure and is non flammable which is different than most of what replaced it. Some call this enshitification of all consumer products due to gubmint mandates and too many financial whiz kids with Wall Street fortunes in mind instead of producing good products at a decent price. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5) 191
What is left is strip mining their natural resources to feed China's mfg machines.
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:39 AM (ctrM5) Canada and Australia are in the same slow boat to ... Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 11:50 AM (rj6Yv) 192
One thing people are noticing more and more is that things built in America, especially older things, last much much longer then Chinese crap...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 04, 2025 11:50 AM (t0Rmr) 193
It is known that Operation Condor is Jackie's best film.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 04, 2025 11:47 AM (i1b+b) I like the Forbidden Kingdom better. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:50 AM (VofaG) 194
If the old trade agreements shipped low paying manufacturing jobs overseas to make room for higher paying thought jobs, why did we let 21 million foreigners into the country to fill low paying jobs?
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So the Stoli Group declared bankruptcy last year...hmmm. Stoli. As in Stolichnaya. Yeah, that's a result of Canadian tariffs... *sigh* Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 11:51 AM (tubbA) 196
50+ years and still fine. We had to repair a roughly 3 year old refrigerator already. (Just out of warranty)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 04, 2025 11:46 AM (N1DT3) I'm currently dealing with a several years old clothes washer that won't do a spin cycle. The dryer sitting next to it is close to 30 years old and has had a few (cheap) parts replaced, still works fine. Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (6ydKt) 197
Buck, you are a clown when it comes to economics. (Excellent work on EV disaster though). This is a parody right? Can't believe you quoted CBS and the Guardian. The real Buck would never give them credence, and shouldn't. You are getting it exactly backwards here. They wrote those articles about how bad it is for Europe because they think like you and somehow think taxing your own citizens is good.
Bottom line, it is a good deal for Europe for imports from the US and bad for exports to the US. Simple as that. Don't forget that their increased investment in the US will INCREASE the trade deficit. Read a book dude. Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (P7Iz+) 198
195 If the old trade agreements shipped low paying manufacturing jobs overseas to make room for higher paying thought jobs, why did we let 21 million foreigners into the country to fill low paying jobs?
--------------- Cuz the Yankees need slaves to maintain the Big Blue Wall of Electoral Votes. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (W3T6M) 199
Bucatini is much superior to spaghetti.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:41 AM (W3T6M) Wear a stylish bib and place a napkin on the lap. Eating a plate of bucatini is not for the dainty. Or cut to the chase and put out a dropcloth. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (Riz8t) 200
Reasonable tariffs
Slash the cost of government Deport the illegals and end immigration for a decade or two Fix HS education Remove the requirement for a college education for anything non-specialized And...you could get back to one wage earner supporting a wife and 4 kids again Posted by: 18-1 ====== And you have to get Washington and state governments out of the way by incentivizing building things again and pushing intact families instead of welfare and broken ones. Plus something has to be done about education- K12 wholesale which is a problem primarily for states to deal with. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (ctrM5) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (1PSEn) 202
>>>What do the Irish make besides booze?
Lucky Charms. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:44 AM (i24o9) Redheads Posted by: ... at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (jRYyy) 203
The EU bent over and spread their ass cheeks to receive the thunderous MAGA dick. EU had no choice. But unless we can keep MAGA going, with Trump 3.0 and 4.0 in the form of President Vance, the EU can bide their time until a Democrap simp wins the presidency, and can reverse most if not all of these tariffs.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 11:53 AM (iFTx/) 204
China has no government opposition or unions to deal with. Not to mention environmental laws and slave labor. The rest of the world turns a blind eye to that and trades with them anyway. Including us.
Posted by: Case at August 04, 2025 11:53 AM (fSxdA) 205
In the USA 22% of all cars and light duty truck sales are either partially or fully electric. EVs get better every year. Most EV buyers recharge overnight at their homes
The Lucid Air can recharge 200miles in 12 minutes Cars sold in China even faster Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at August 04, 2025 11:53 AM (wpg05) 206
Reasonable tariffs
Slash the cost of government Deport the illegals and end immigration for a decade or two Fix HS education Remove the requirement for a college education for anything non-specialized And...you could get back to one wage earner supporting a wife and 4 kids again Posted by: 18-1 at August 04, 2025 11:45 AM (t0Rmr) You also need to stop telling little girls that they need to be girl-bosses and find their meaning in the workforce, because men were keeping the life-fulfilling secret of working long hours away from them. Massively increasing the workforce with women means that wages necessarily drop. Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (N1DT3) 207
Honestly, I have no idea who these "Principled Free Traders" are. They must write for dead paper magazines or something, because the concerns about tariffs are not what gets presented here.
It looks more like a strawman argument. Governments are the problem. Yours, mine, theirs, everyone's. If there was actual, you know, free trade, we wouldn't NEED Trump to get all tough with Europe (which these days is like picking on the kid with polio). So again, the only real benefit the American people get from these tariff wars is if EVERYONE lowers their tariffs! Otherwise, governments are just taking more money from the people. Otherwise, known as a tax. Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (dGCAG) 208
I hope to inherit the refrigerator my wife's parents have in their basement. They inherited it from my father-in-law's mother.
50+ years and still fine. We had to repair a roughly 3 year old refrigerator already. (Just out of warranty) Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 04, 2025 11:46 AM Seriously...my parents' freezer and the refrigerator out in the garage are both about 50 years old and running like watches. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (dPfyF) 209
Another about Irish terrorism is The Foreigner with Jackie Chan. His best movie by far.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM --- It is known that Operation Condor is Jackie's best film. Posted by: Darth Randall at August 04, 2025 11:47 AM (i1b+b) I used to love Jackie Chan movies, but he's lost a lot of his luster for me since becoming a very vocal cuck for the Chinese Communist gov't. The Old Male Asian Rachel Zegler? Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (iJfKG) 210
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (P7Iz+)
How about explaining and supporting your conclusions with facts instead of because ‘I say so’ arguments. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG) 211
I like the Forbidden Kingdom better.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:50 AM --- That was a good one. Posted by: Darth Randall at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (i1b+b) 212
the EU can bide their time until a Democrap simp wins the presidency, and can reverse most if not all of these tariffs.
They can if things in the EU don't change, but I expect them to, because the people there have had enough. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t) 213
... so far I haven't heard of anything in the Durham classified appendix that has the earmarks of being classified, except the stuff about sedition and criminality.
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 11:49 AM (RHGPo) The Durham classified annex has been declassified and is now available to the general public. Have fun, NYT. Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (rj6Yv) Posted by: Bruce at August 04, 2025 11:55 AM (d4eHi) 215
Anne Frank would be driving an electric car today.
Posted by: ... at August 04, 2025 11:55 AM (jRYyy) 216
144 A Pennsylvania funeral home gave a couple their deceased son's personal belongings, and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes
Posted by: SMOD That was smart. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (bDxU9) ----------- That's out of the box thinking. Posted by: WisRich at August 04, 2025 11:55 AM (G0vdT) 217
I used to love Jackie Chan movies, but he's lost a lot of his luster for me since becoming a very vocal cuck for the Chinese Communist gov't.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (iJfKG) You've seen one, and you've seen them all, IMO. Next. Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:55 AM (i24o9) 218
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Then why are they subsidized? Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:56 AM (Riz8t) 219
Seriously...my parents' freezer and the refrigerator out in the garage are both about 50 years old and running like watches.
------------- Please note they have access to the compressor unlike exciting and new refrigerators. I wonder why? Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:56 AM (W3T6M) 220
The EU bent over and spread their ass cheeks to receive the thunderous MAGA dick.
(Fanning self) Oh my! I'll have what THEY'RE having! Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at August 04, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz) 221
You've seen one, and you've seen them all, IMO. Next.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at August 04, 2025 11:55 AM (i24o9) That’s why the Foreigner is so good. It’s different. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:56 AM (VofaG) 222
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‘ Cuz the Yankees need slaves to maintain the Big Blue Wall of Electoral Votes.’ Texas, NC, Virginia and Georgia aren’t Yankee states but have a shitload of those 21 million. Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc) 223
operates at a much lower pressure and is non flammable which is different than most of what replaced it."
True, and R 12 could hold lubricant in suspension, reducing wear... Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 11:57 AM (tubbA) 224
Globalists, commies and economists can all blow my free trade cock.
Why does anybody listen to these frauds? They are never right, and do only what serves to fatten their already plump lifestyles. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 04, 2025 11:57 AM (9bq/n) 225
Or cut to the chase and put out a dropcloth.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (Riz8t) Or just buy one of those cheap (not so much, now!) ponchos. Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 11:58 AM (rj6Yv) 226
The EU bent over and spread their ass cheeks to receive the thunderous MAGA dick. EU had no choice. But unless we can keep MAGA going, with Trump 3.0 and 4.0 in the form of President Vance, the EU can bide their time until a Democrap simp wins the presidency, and can reverse most if not all of these tariffs.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 11:53 AM (iFTx/) Which is of course inevitable. So if the U.S. of A. manages to re-emerge as its own manufacturing center, in short time it has, it won't have to worry about retaliation. However, the other aspect of this, I suspect, is that Trump makes deals with the Euros, by telling them he'll keep funding their defense, including the obsolete Nato, as well as keeping the death machine going in Ukraine. Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2025 11:58 AM (dGCAG) 227
I hope to inherit the refrigerator my wife's parents have in their basement. They inherited it from my father-in-law's mother.
50+ years and still fine. We had to repair a roughly 3 year old refrigerator already. (Just out of warranty) Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 04, 2025 11:46 AM Seriously...my parents' freezer and the refrigerator out in the garage are both about 50 years old and running like watches. Posted by: RedMindBlueState I bought a used refrigerator. Kept it in the garage. It ran for over twelve Texas summers and was still running when I got rid of it. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:58 AM (bDxU9) 228
213 the EU can bide their time until a Democrap simp wins the presidency, and can reverse most if not all of these tariffs.
They can if things in the EU don't change, but I expect them to, because the people there have had enough. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t) This argument is classic GOPe bullshit. They'll just change it back!!! (hear the whine) Oh well, I guess we should just give up then. Become like David French and let the guys rail our wives and try to be ok with it. These people fucking annoy me. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (bss/y) Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (jbnUc) 230
A Pennsylvania funeral home gave a couple their deceased son's personal belongings, and they found the son's brain in one of the cardboard boxes
Posted by: SMOD That was smart. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:35 AM (bDxU9) ----------- That's out of the box thinking. Posted by: WisRich Golf clap. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (bDxU9) 231
Another about Irish terrorism is The Foreigner with Jackie Chan. His best movie by far.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 11:32 AM --- It is known that Operation Condor is Jackie's best film. Posted by: Darth Randall at August 04, 2025 11:47 AM (i1b+b) I used to love Jackie Chan movies, but he's lost a lot of his luster for me since becoming a very vocal cuck for the Chinese Communist gov't. The Old Male Asian Rachel Zegler? Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (iJfKG) _____ True, but after China's takeover of HK, CCP is the only game in town. I don't think Chan has any choice. Same is true of a lot of Chinese celebrities and actors. Chan's older movies, made in HK before the take-over, are much more rebellious against the mainland Chinese government. Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/) 232
'You GOT IT, Joe!' Elizabeth Warren Says Working Class Should Be Heap Big Excited About Zohran Mamdani
- Well, you know. AWFLs and minority men. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (1PSEn) Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 12:00 PM (tubbA) 234
I've always found it interesting that KY and TN share so much in common, and yet KY is a perennial basket case while TN is a normal place.
My theory is: coal. I think that dependence on extractive industry economically and culturally retarded KY while it's neighbor to the South was forced to form a more modern industrial base. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2025 12:00 PM (Fe3xz) 235
Bottom line, it is a good deal for Europe for imports from the US and bad for exports to the US. Simple as that. Don't forget that their increased investment in the US will INCREASE the trade deficit. Read a book dude.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz ======== Do you actually have an economics degree? You would do well to have less opinion rather than facts. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5) 236
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (P7Iz+)
That's a great tone you took with Buck. I am sure he will read your comment and take it seriously. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 04, 2025 12:01 PM (n9ltV) 237
My theory is: coal. I think that dependence on extractive industry economically and culturally retarded KY while it's neighbor to the South was forced to form a more modern industrial base.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice State income tax (or lack thereof) is part of it. Tennessee was actually a basket case after Ned Wherton put Tenn Care into operation. Taxes soared and state government damn near went broke over it. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:02 PM (ctrM5) 238
the EU can bide their time until a Democrap simp wins the presidency, and can reverse most if not all of these tariffs.
They can if things in the EU don't change, but I expect them to, because the people there have had enough. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (Riz8t) This argument is classic GOPe bullshit. They'll just change it back!!! (hear the whine) Oh well, I guess we should just give up then. Become like David French and let the guys rail our wives and try to be ok with it. These people fucking annoy me. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (bss/y) ________ You know who annoys me? People who cherry-pick a sentence from a comment and then bitch about it, without reading or comprehending the entire point of the comment. Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:02 PM (iFTx/) 239
My Maytag refrigerator I bought in 2008 was still running well when I sold my house. Can’t say the same for the washing machine that the control board no longer functioned properly right when I was selling my house (2025).
I bought LG appliances for the new house based on my research. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG) 240
IIRC, My grand parents kept the garage fridge when they moved from Muncie to Brownstown. But the kitchen one- a gigantic, beautiful chromed machine with the freezer on the bottom, I think they left in Muncie. It had to have been bought in the 60s.
Mammaw was a master. She had one standard fridge, then a fridge and a freezer in the garage. Two ovens, plus one small warming oven. Damn, that woman could cook. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:03 PM (bss/y) 241
Oh well, I guess we should just give up then. Become like David French and let the guys rail our wives and try to be ok with it.
Once you get all the toxic masculinity out of your system, it's the most manly you'll ever feel! Don't knock it until you try it!!! I still have too much internalized misogyny to try being gay, but here's to hoping! 🤞 Posted by: David French at August 04, 2025 12:03 PM (JCZqz) 242
When it comes to buying pasta, the words I look for on the package are "bronze die cut" and "semolina".
Posted by: mrp at August 04, 2025 12:04 PM (rj6Yv) 243
Well, she's better than Hank Johnson, anyway.
https://is.gd/hs6KpA Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (1PSEn) Plato Johnson was right! "The empty vessel makes the loudest sound." - Plato Johnson Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2025 12:04 PM (wVcYX) Posted by: Uber eats, door dash, etc. at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM (tubbA) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM (1PSEn) 246
BREAKING: Gov. Abbott to Texas Democrats — Show Up Monday or YOU’RE FIRED!
Governor Greg Abbott just laid down the LAW: “If you don’t show up to work Monday by 3 PM, you’re DONE. Consider your seat VACANT.” Over 50 Texas House Democrats fled the state to block a Trump-backed redistricting bill that would add 5 new GOP-leaning seats — so Abbott is DONE playing games. He’s invoking AG Opinion KP-0382 to REMOVE lawmakers who abandon their duties… And he’s threatening felony charges for anyone accepting funds to pay their $500/day fines! It’s official: BREAKING QUORUM = BREAKING THE LAW. These cowards don’t want to vote — they want to RUN. Abbott says: Come back, or be REPLACED. #HodgeTwins Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM (bDxU9) 247
Euros are dirty people who do dirty things with other dirty people.
Posted by: Dirty Euros at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM (S0TGs) Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 04, 2025 12:06 PM (jbnUc) 249
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:02 PM (iFTx/)
Care to expand on what was cherry picked and not understood? Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:06 PM (VofaG) 250
235 I've always found it interesting that KY and TN share so much in common, and yet KY is a perennial basket case while TN is a normal place.
My theory is: coal. I think that dependence on extractive industry economically and culturally retarded KY while it's neighbor to the South was forced to form a more modern industrial base. ------------------ Kentucky makes some really good Bourbon. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 12:06 PM (W3T6M) 251
It looks more like a strawman argument.
Governments are the problem. Yours, mine, theirs, everyone's. If there was actual, you know, free trade, we wouldn't NEED Trump to get all tough with Europe (which these days is like picking on the kid with polio). So again, the only real benefit the American people get from these tariff wars is if EVERYONE lowers their tariffs! Otherwise, governments are just taking more money from the people. Otherwise, known as a tax. Posted by: BurtTC Free trade is a rather idiotic notion because Ricardo's comparative advantage is a fraud (he was an investor making political arguments related to Corn Laws). Part of the issue is our elite class has become global as has international finance where a US elite has more in common with an elite in Karachi than people in their own countries. Sort of a return to feudalism of a sort. The cloud people though of our current era simply drift with little to no consequences while sticking others with the costs. Socialize the costs and privatize the gains is no way for a society to be run. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:07 PM (ctrM5) 252
You know who annoys me? People who cherry-pick a sentence from a comment and then bitch about it, without reading or comprehending the entire point of the comment.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:02 PM (iFTx/) It's not an uncommon sentiment. You see it about all sorts of things here, champ. And it annoys me every time. A certain amount of pessimism is justified (god knows) and healthy. But the eeyoreism(sp?) gets a tad old. Especially when the argument is 'they will just undo it'. Sure, but it reminds me of a Grant quote 'Bobby Lee! Bobby Lee! I am sick to death about hearing about Bobby Lee! You'd think he was going to do a double somersault and land in our rear! Quit worrying about what he is going to do to you and start worry about what you are going to do to him.' Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:07 PM (bss/y) 253
Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM (bDxU9)
The Dems have done this a couple of times without any real consequences. Hope this time it will be different. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (VofaG) 254
It appears that the U.S. Office of Special Counsel is investigating former Special Counsel Jack "ass" Smith for his alleged violations of the Hatch Act.
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (RHGPo) 255
25% across the board tariff on India… Good.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (Z6UNg) 256
The Dems have done this a couple of times without any real consequences.
Hope this time it will be different. Posted by: polynikes You and me both. Last time was 2021. Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (bDxU9) 257
Once you get all the toxic masculinity out of your system, it's the most manly you'll ever feel! Don't knock it until you try it!!! I still have too much internalized misogyny to try being gay, but here's to hoping! 🤞
Posted by: David French at August 04, 2025 12:03 PM (JCZqz) Heh. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (bss/y) 258
Greg Abbott is walking tall.
https://is.gd/inlqD2 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM ISWYDT. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (dPfyF) 259
That's a great tone you took with Buck. I am sure he will read your comment and take it seriously.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 04, 2025 12:01 PM (n9ltV) Stark raving elitist assholes gotta asshole. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (Zz0t1) 260
It's not an uncommon sentiment. You see it about all sorts of things here, champ. And it annoys me every time. A certain amount of pessimism is justified (god knows) and healthy. But the eeyoreism(sp?) gets a tad old.
Especially when the argument is 'they will just undo it'. Sure, but it reminds me of a Grant quote 'Bobby Lee! Bobby Lee! I am sick to death about hearing about Bobby Lee! You'd think he was going to do a double somersault and land in our rear! Quit worrying about what he is going to do to you and start worry about what you are going to do to him.' Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:07 PM (bss/y) Nicely put ... Posted by: browndog about to do at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (TTAGa) 261
Kentucky makes some really good Bourbon.
Posted by: pudinhead ==== So are you saying that Kentucky's problem is that they got drunk on their own stash? Jack Daniels, on the other hand, is located in a dry county (or at least was). Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (ctrM5) 262
Greg Abbott is walking tall.
https://is.gd/inlqD2 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM ISWYDT. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (dPfyF) God love ya! Posted by: Joey "Two Shits" Biden at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (Zz0t1) 263
Jack Daniels, on the other hand, is located in a dry county (or at least was).
-------------- Jack is whiskey. Bourbon is different. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 12:10 PM (W3T6M) 264
It appears that the U.S. Office of Special Counsel is investigating former Special Counsel Jack "ass" Smith
for his alleged violations of the Hatch Act. Posted by: SMOD Took an underaged female zookeeper across state line for immoral porpoises? Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 12:10 PM (bDxU9) 265
It appears that the U.S. Office of Special Counsel is investigating former Special Counsel Jack "ass" Smith for his alleged violations of the Hatch Act.
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (RHGPo) --------------- What, RICO and Treason weren't available? * spit * Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 04, 2025 12:10 PM (z/usA) 266
Speaking of thinking outside the box . . .
Zoo asks people to donate small pets to help keep the animals fed https://is.gd/bSlj4m Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 12:10 PM (1PSEn) 267
25% across the board tariff on India… Good.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at August 04, 2025 12:08 PM (Z6UNg) Does that include Help Desk's? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:11 PM (Zz0t1) 268
You can now bet on what color the next dildo thrown on a WNBA court will be.
Current leaders are Blue, Purple, Pink Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:11 PM (RHGPo) 269
Especially when the argument is 'they will just undo it'. Sure, but it reminds me of a Grant quote 'Bobby Lee! Bobby Lee! I am sick to death about hearing about Bobby Lee! You'd think he was going to do a double somersault and land in our rear! Quit worrying about what he is going to do to you and start worry about what you are going to do to him.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:07 PM (bss/y) Nicely put ... Posted by: browndog ====== Agree. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:11 PM (ctrM5) 270
Kentucky makes some really good Bourbon."
Didn't you see? They're all going bankrupt due to Canada tariffs. (BTW, Canada accounts for about 1% of bourbon sales, so...) Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 12:12 PM (tubbA) 271
I have contributed to the distillery shut downs as I don’t buy bourbon anymore though I will drink it when made available to me.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG) 272
243 When it comes to buying pasta, the words I look for on the package are "bronze die cut" and "semolina".
Posted by: mrp Gross. The recipe book "Natural Harvest" is all about cooking with semolina. Posted by: Confused Moron at August 04, 2025 12:12 PM (JCZqz) 273
265 It appears that the U.S. Office of Special Counsel is investigating former Special Counsel Jack "ass" Smith
for his alleged violations of the Hatch Act. Posted by: SMOD Took an underaged female zookeeper across state line for immoral porpoises? .. That is the Mann Act Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:12 PM (RHGPo) 274
You can now bet on what color the next dildo thrown on a WNBA court will be.
Current leaders are Blue, Purple, Pink Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:11 PM (RHGPo) The league is doing everything it can to gain attention. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:12 PM (Zz0t1) 275
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:02 PM (iFTx/)
Care to expand on what was cherry picked and not understood? Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:06 PM (VofaG) ______ My comment was two parts: (1) cheering that EU bent over for MAGA in the tariff deal and (2) we need to keep this going or a future simp could undo the tariffs. But only (2) was cherry-picked and criticized for being David Frenchy defeatist. Clearly, my comment in total was not Frenchy or defeatist. Just the opposite. Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/) 276
It appears that the U.S. Office of Special Counsel is investigating former Special Counsel Jack "ass" Smith
for his alleged violations of the Hatch Act. Posted by: SMOD Took an underaged female zookeeper across state line for immoral porpoises? Posted by: rickb223 at August 04, 2025 12:10 PM Transported chilies across state lines for improper culinary purposes. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (dPfyF) 277
State income tax (or lack thereof) is part of it. Tennessee was actually a basket case after Ned Wherton put Tenn Care into operation. Taxes soared and state government damn near went broke over it.
Posted by: whig at August Definitely more to it than the word coal, but I'd argue that the predatory nature of the 19th to early 20th century energy industry there kept wages at next to nothing to begin with, and then it went away altogether, making for a place much likelier to become a welfare state than somewhere with more alternatives. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (Fe3xz) 278
I wonder how many people spend their lives swearing off all brown liquor because the only brown liquor they've ever tried is Jack Daniels.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (VoAdT) 279
Greg Abbott is walking tall.
https://is.gd/inlqD2 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 12:05 PM ISWYDT. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (dPfyF) God love ya! Posted by: Joey "Two Shits" Biden at August 04, 2025 12:09 PM (Zz0t1) -------------- Buford "Wheels" Pusher? Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (z/usA) Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (tubbA) 281
True, but after China's takeover of HK, CCP is the only game in town. I don't think Chan has any choice. Same is true of a lot of Chinese celebrities and actors. Chan's older movies, made in HK before the take-over, are much more rebellious against the mainland Chinese government.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/) I get that. But, his anti-US, pro-Communist China cuckism often comes out of the blue when he's promoting a movie. I suppose to be fair it could be that the MSM celebrity reporters chum the waters with questions guaranteed to get a required pro-PRC response. Still...eh. It puts an unpleasant face on whatever character he's playing. Es no bueno for suspension of disbelief when you just want to enjoy the movie. Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (iJfKG) 282
The federal government will soon stop sending out paper checks for federal payments, including social security beneficiaries. It is part of an effort to fully modernize federal benefit payments, save money and fight financial fraud. More than half a million recipients, less than 1%, need to choose another way to receive their social security benefits. Recipients can choose either direct deposit or a pre-paid debit card known as Direct Express. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (63Dwl) 283
Of course, the monetary aspect of Trade with Europe is half the main story. They force absurd limitations and requirements on imported goods.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (A0ECY) 284
The Hatch Act, officially known as "An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities," was enacted in 1939. Its primary purpose is to maintain the integrity of federal programs by ensuring they are administered in a nonpartisan manner. The act aims to protect federal employees from political coercion in the workplace and to ensure that their advancement is based on merit rather than political affiliation.
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (RHGPo) 285
Governments are the problem. Yours, mine, theirs, everyone's. If there was actual, you know, free trade, we wouldn't NEED Trump to get all tough with Europe (which these days is like picking on the kid with polio).
So again, the only real benefit the American people get from these tariff wars is if EVERYONE lowers their tariffs! Otherwise, governments are just taking more money from the people. Otherwise, known as a tax. Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2025 11:54 AM (dGCAG) There is no real trade in anarchy, free or otherwise. What you get is barter among local people and roaming gangs of bandits & pirates taking what they want from those people. Everybody would prefer a "Tax Free" world, but we don't live in that world of ideals, we live in the world of reality where there are governments that tax people and business, ostensibly in return for security. Tariffs have been part of that world for hundreds of years, and I guarantee you if you had the choice you'd prefer everybody from the exporter, to the importer, to the consumer, share in that tax burden rather than what we have now, especially the progressive income tax that everybody gets screwed with unequally, by design. Posted by: SpeakingOf at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (6ydKt) 286
Jack is whiskey. Bourbon is different.
Posted by: pudinhead Having drank all of the above including Scotch and Irish back in the day, they simply vary by what feedstock they use. Then you have the blended ones that try for specific flavors using different whiskeys aka whisky as ingredients. Bourbon is specifically and legally reserved for corn whiskey made in KY. Sort of like how Cognac comes from a specific region in France but is called brandy when produced elsewhere. Ditto for Scotch or Irish. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (ctrM5) 287
"Why Aren’t Free Traders Touting How Great This Is for Europe?"
lemme guess: they're not "free traders" at all, just bought-and-paid-for supporters of El Partido de la Grifto Permanente? Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (dKEEs) 288
I wonder how many people spend their lives swearing off all brown liquor because the only brown liquor they've ever tried is Jack Daniels.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (VoAdT) First real drunken pukefest, well, maybe 2nd, was from Jack. I just don't drink that shit because of it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (Zz0t1) 289
Jack Daniels, on the other hand, is located in a dry county (or at least was).
-------------- Jack is whiskey. Bourbon is different. Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 12:10 PM (W3T6M No it’s still qualifies as Bourbon but just marketed as a whiskey. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:15 PM (VofaG) 290
The distilleries shutting down in KY are (mostly) small, vanity operations that had little chance of success. But provided their wealthy investors a nice tax shelter.
Until now. They were never going to succeed in an over saturated market selling "craft" Bourbon. When all Bourbon is basically "craft made." Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 04, 2025 12:15 PM (Q4IgG) 291
281 Jack is whiskey. Bourbon is different"
Let me fix that: Bourbon is Better. Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (tubbA) Doof ... no need to use a sock. Posted by: browndog sees though you at August 04, 2025 12:16 PM (TTAGa) 292
270, yes, this!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (dKEEs) 293
They were never going to succeed in an over saturated market selling "craft" Bourbon. When all Bourbon is basically "craft made."
It would help a great deal if bourbon didn't suck. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (Riz8t) 294
They were never going to succeed in an over saturated market selling "craft" Bourbon. When all Bourbon is basically "craft made."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 04, 2025 12:15 PM (Q4IgG) And yet every nutsack with an IMDB page still has their own tequila brand. Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (VoAdT) 295
279 I wonder how many people spend their lives swearing off all brown liquor because the only brown liquor they've ever tried is Jack Daniels.
Posted by: Warai-otoko (Looks away nervously) Posted by: Military Special Whiskey at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (JCZqz) 296
Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (tubbA)
Doof ... no need to use a sock. Posted by: browndog sees though you at August 04, 2025 12:16 PM (TTAGa) tubbA. Bubba's un-incarcerated sister. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (Zz0t1) Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (VofaG) 298
At the center of it all is the “Durham Annex”—a trove of evidence so deeply troubling that the mainstream media can’t afford to look at it objectively. Instead of confronting the contents, Rolling Stone—never shy about running cover for the left—truly jumped the shark with a theory so far-fetched it would make a conspiracy theorist blush.
Get this: according to Rolling Stone, the evidence showing the Russian collusion scandal was itself a hoax is actually... wait for it... Russian disinformation! Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (RHGPo) 299
True, but after China's takeover of HK, CCP is the only game in town. I don't think Chan has any choice. Same is true of a lot of Chinese celebrities and actors. Chan's older movies, made in HK before the take-over, are much more rebellious against the mainland Chinese government.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/) I get that. But, his anti-US, pro-Communist China cuckism often comes out of the blue when he's promoting a movie. I suppose to be fair it could be that the MSM celebrity reporters chum the waters with questions guaranteed to get a required pro-PRC response. Still...eh. It puts an unpleasant face on whatever character he's playing. Es no bueno for suspension of disbelief when you just want to enjoy the movie. Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (iJfKG) ______ All true. But with a few exceptions, I don't hold flaws against entertainers that I like, especially when I'm not sure if they truly believe what they claim to believe. Toxicunts like Rachel Zegler really believe it. Jacky Chan? I'm not sure. Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:17 PM (iFTx/) 300
>>>Jack Daniels, on the other hand, is located in a dry county (or at least was).
>I'd suspect there is a reason for this. Mostly because JD is a vile concoction which causes people to lose their sensibilities in violent and lawless ways. Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (9bq/n) 301
https://is.gd/RP38AI
@NatHalberstadt I've heard the horror stories, Carol. [chart - Estimated % of 30-Year-Olds Who Are Both Married and Homeowners (1950-2025)] Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (ULPxl) 302
My comment was two parts: (1) cheering that EU bent over for MAGA in the tariff deal and (2) we need to keep this going or a future simp could undo the tariffs. But only (2) was cherry-picked and criticized for being David Frenchy defeatist. Clearly, my comment in total was not Frenchy or defeatist. Just the opposite.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:13 PM (iFTx/) --------------- IANAL ... but I think Elric is. ![]() Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (z/usA) 303
"First real drunken pukefest, well, maybe 2nd, was from Jack.
I just don't drink that shit because of it. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (Zz0t1) " it was Southern Comfort for me. never again! Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (dKEEs) 304
Get this: according to Rolling Stone, the evidence showing the Russian collusion scandal was itself a hoax is actually... wait for it... Russian disinformation!
Wheels within wheels, man. Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t) 305
Thanks to Muldoon's quick and clever mind this morning, I was able to copy his Owl pun at a site on LinkedIn.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (W/lyH) 306
And yet every nutsack with an IMDB page still has their own tequila brand.
Posted by: Warai-otoko Hey! I resemble that remark! Posted by: Dwayne The Rock Johnson at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (JCZqz) 307
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Posted by: Dwayne The Rock Johnson at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (JCZqz) Heh, to be honest, his brand is one of the only celebrity tequilas I actually like. Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:19 PM (VoAdT) 308
IANAL ... but I think Elric is.
Depends. Is this Elric the Blade, and if so, what happened to his bladiness? Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t) 309
when will they close down that pile of crap called the Rolling Stone mag ?? time of hippies is over
Posted by: runner at August 04, 2025 12:20 PM (g47mK) 310
They were never going to succeed in an over saturated market selling "craft" Bourbon"
"Craft" markets fluctuate wildly. Super happy IPAs anyone? Posted by: man at August 04, 2025 12:20 PM (tubbA) 311
Jack is what I stuck in my boot for football games. The smell of it mixed with concession stand 7 Up will always trigger good memories.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:20 PM (VofaG) 312
272 I have contributed to the distillery shut downs as I don’t buy bourbon anymore though I will drink it when made available to me.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG) I was moving in a Bulleit Rye direction, then a couple years ago discovered good rum and have not looked back. TBF, have not drank much at all the past couple of years. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:20 PM (bss/y) 313
309 IANAL ... but I think Elric is.
Depends. Is this Elric the Blade, and if so, what happened to his bladiness? Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t) Well crap, now I have to always refer to Elric as "His Bladiness" because obviously. Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:21 PM (VoAdT) 314
Jack is what I stuck in my boot for football games. The smell of it mixed with concession stand 7 Up will always trigger good memories.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:20 PM (VofaG) I just threw up in my mouth a little. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:21 PM (Zz0t1) 315
IANAL ... but I think Elric is.
Depends. Is this Elric the Blade, and if so, what happened to his bladiness? Posted by: Archimedes at August 04, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t) ________ My computer keeps 86ing the full name tag Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 04, 2025 12:21 PM (iFTx/) 316
Its primary purpose is to maintain the integrity of federal programs by ensuring they are administered in a nonpartisan manner. The act aims to protect federal employees from political coercion in the workplace and to ensure that their advancement is based on merit rather than political affiliation.
Posted by: SMOD at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (RHGPo) BWAHAHAHHHA!!! deep breath BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh stop it! You're killing me here. Posted by: Diogenes at August 04, 2025 12:21 PM (W/lyH) 317
Hey Elric, I'm going to hassle you for something completely different (because I bailed from a thread several days ago and missed a comment...): The TX MoMee is in *October*, which even in Texas, is no longer summer. We did have temps in the mid-80s one year but we've also had a Mud MoMee and a Cold MoMee (mid-40s with wind).
... and the rest of You People know that this year is the *tenth consecutive* TX MoMee, right??? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:22 PM (ULPxl) 318
... and the rest of You People know that this year is the *tenth consecutive* TX MoMee, right??? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:22 PM (ULPxl) And there are rumors of a Frank in NZ sighting in store..... Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:22 PM (Zz0t1) 319
https://is.gd/RP38AI
@NatHalberstadt I've heard the horror stories, Carol. [chart - Estimated % of 30-Year-Olds Who Are Both Married and Homeowners (1950-2025)] Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:18 PM (ULPxl) ------------------- Shocking -- didn't realize it was that bad. Looks like the collapse of Western Civilization. Destructive ideas have destructive consequences ... Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (z/usA) 320
The good news is Germans will be able to support more Syrians.
Posted by: Bindo Altoviti at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (imOJr) 321
... and the rest of You People know that this year is the *tenth consecutive* TX MoMee, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:22 PM Travel arrangements have been made. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (dPfyF) 322
I drank a lot of Jack and Coke as a poor college kid. For some reason, Jack was really cheap around my college, and we mixed it with coke to stretch out the supply. Some fond memories. Some ... not so fond.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/) 323
Forcing working-class Americans to make things foreigners or machines can make cheaper only undermines the creation of better jobs for them and their children.”
——— IQ follows a bell curve distribution. Maybe someone can tell me what a “working class” person with a 90 IQ is supposed to do for work? Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (VU+t5) 324
My computer keeps 86ing the full name tag
Posted by: Elric "Literary Creation" Blade at August 04, 2025 12:21 PM (iFTx/) you could try dollar quoting but that might kaibosh the entire db for the site. And if you do it's not my fault and i never heard of you and i was over there minding my own business the whole time. Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (VoAdT) 325
Definitely more to it than the word coal, but I'd argue that the predatory nature of the 19th to early 20th century energy industry there kept wages at next to nothing to begin with, and then it went away altogether, making for a place much likelier to become a welfare state than somewhere with more alternatives.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice ========= Appalachia was poverty stricken with subsistence level farming and logging before coal mining arrived. Sort of like Mass before the textile industries set up shop. People went to work in both industries because as hard and lousy work it was, it paid better than alternatives. Elites like Kevin Williamson never get this--people are often stuck in places because of family/friends/kinship networks that help ameliorate economic suffering. Even in local economies, the key is comparison with peers rather than some overarching global human widgets perspective. Same for someone putting their ass in combat on the line in the military--they suffer awful fates for their peers and friends rather than the vague notion of doing good for country. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:24 PM (ctrM5) 326
Bourbon is specifically and legally reserved for corn whiskey made in KY. Sort of like how Cognac comes from a specific region in France but is called brandy when produced elsewhere. Ditto for Scotch or Irish.
Posted by: whig "Bourbon" can be made anywhere; the name is not restricted to Kentucky distilleries. Posted by: mikeski at August 04, 2025 12:24 PM (QUYX2) 327
The EU has essentially hollowed out the local manufacturing capabilities through shipping those jobs to China.
I think the EU may finally be waking up to the very real fact they need a manufacturing hub which isn't located in China. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2025 12:24 PM (tT6L1) 328
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
You should simply go by "The Blade" ... Anything else is confusing now. Posted by: browndog sees though you at August 04, 2025 12:25 PM (TTAGa) 329
... and the rest of You People know that this year is the *tenth consecutive* TX MoMee, right???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:22 PM (ULPxl) I actually have that week scheduled off for vacation (put in when I started back in March.) But: 1) Not sure how reef would do with the long car ride. 2) How is the hotel situation for pets? Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:25 PM (bss/y) 330
I think the EU may finally be waking up to the very real fact they need a manufacturing hub which isn't located in China. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2025 12:24 PM (tT6L1) Oldie but goody........ https://youtu.be/8fwgVUfW_O4?t=13 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:26 PM (Zz0t1) 331
Hey Elric, I'm going to hassle you for something completely different (because I bailed from a thread several days ago and missed a comment...): The TX MoMee is in *October*, which even in Texas, is no longer summer. We did have temps in the mid-80s one year but we've also had a Mud MoMee and a Cold MoMee (mid-40s with wind).
... and the rest of You People know that this year is the *tenth consecutive* TX MoMee, right??? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:22 PM (ULPxl) ______ My apologies, but I already have several trips booked for October. I don't do much if any travelling in summer as I don't like the heat (not even in NYC). But when September and October comes, I make up for it with a lot of trips. I'll try to get to the VA meet next year. Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (iFTx/) 332
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:21 PM (Zz0t1) Embarrassingly the girlie Peach Schnapps is what makes me gag now. I mixed drinking that with also drinking tequila at a college Christmas party once and had the worst drinking experience ever. It was the Peach Schnapps that stuck with me. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (VofaG) 333
I was moving in a Bulleit Rye direction, then a couple years ago discovered good rum and have not looked back. TBF, have not drank much at all the past couple of years.
Posted by: Aetius451AD ======= Haven't drank much at all since I got married decades ago. My tastes went to Scotch, rye whiskey, gin, aged rum, and occasionally cognac toward the end. Still can taste those despite not having them in years now (medications). Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (ctrM5) 334
Jack is what I stuck in my boot for football games. The smell of it mixed with concession stand 7 Up will always trigger good memories. Posted by: polynikes You were a Jack booted thug? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (63Dwl) 335
2) How is the hotel situation for pets?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:25 PM (bss/y) I believe there are multiple hotels in Corsicana that allow for pets. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (Zz0t1) 336
2) How is the hotel situation for pets?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:25 PM (bss/y) Better to Ask Ben Had how the room situation is ... PERIOD. Damn car races being held at the same time. Rooms be at a premium. Posted by: browndog sees though you at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (TTAGa) Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:28 PM (VofaG) 338
You were a Jack booted thug?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (63Dwl) Is that you Muldoon? Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:29 PM (VofaG) 339
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)
------------- Looking forward to TX, hugging the FIRST! lady, and catching up with you and the doofenmeister. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2025 12:29 PM (tT6L1) 340
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== I actually have that week scheduled off for vacation (put in when I started back in March.) But: 1) Not sure how reef would do with the long car ride. 2) How is the hotel situation for pets? Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:25 PM (bss/y) Corsicana has several hotels of varying quality and some do accept pets, but please contact Ben Had* for further information as at least one of the bigger ones filled up and apparently there's some other thing going on in town. Another option is to bring an RV or trailer and park at the ranch; some people will fly or drive most of the way and rent something locally. *Contact info is in the left sidebar when viewed from the main page (posts only, no comments view) and you need to scroll down a ways to see the MoMee listing(s) Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:29 PM (ULPxl) 341
Rent a small RV.
Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:28 PM (VofaG) Driving it in the Mustang would be part of the point. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:30 PM (bss/y) 342
I think and hope that Ace got lucky last night.
Nothing better than sexual GAINZZZZ and healing ... ask me how I know. Posted by: ShainS -- Run. Gavin. Run. Toss your hair into the ring! at August 04, 2025 12:30 PM (z/usA) 343
I think the EU may finally be waking up to the very real fact they need a manufacturing hub which isn't located in China.
Posted by: blake ===== I always try to look at the EU as simply the cloud people elites running Europe, not the 80 percent of the populations of European countries that they are immiserating. The elites are doing quite fine in the EU, it is the rest of the people locked into that blob that are not. Same as the Chicoms running China--fine for the Chinese elite--not so good for the rest of the people now. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:30 PM (ctrM5) 344
Bourbon is specifically and legally reserved for corn whiskey made in KY.
Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:14 PM (ctrM5) It doesn't have to be made in Kentucky. 51% corn, and aged in new oak barrels (for two years I think). Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at August 04, 2025 12:30 PM (n9ltV) 345
LOL!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2025 12:31 PM (dKEEs) 346
Damn car races being held at the same time.
Rooms be at a premium. Posted by: browndog sees though you at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (TTAGa) What car races? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at August 04, 2025 12:31 PM (Zz0t1) 347
Ursula von der Leyen, the President of the European Commission, was compelled to make trade concessions that come across as near-total capitulation to Trump’s terms. She had no choice. This was necessary so as to not to cost the 27-nation EU a greater loss of access to the enormous American market. Us toothless, unwashed, illiterate, cousin-humping rednecks keep telling the world that they need the US more than the US needs them, and the world keeps being surprised that the rednecks are right. Every. Fucking. Time. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 04, 2025 12:31 PM (y9nCu) 348
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______ My apologies, but I already have several trips booked for October. I don't do much if any travelling in summer as I don't like the heat (not even in NYC). But when September and October comes, I make up for it with a lot of trips. I'll try to get to the VA meet next year. Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:27 PM (iFTx/) No apologies needed! I hope you do make the NoVa meet up. I've never seen anyone saying they regretted meeting a bunch of Morons offline. ![]() Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:31 PM (ULPxl) 349
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Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:29 PM (ULPxl) --------------- Booking.com is a great option. Please note, however, anything rated less than about a 7.4 on Booking.com is probably a dump. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1) Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (Zz0t1) 351
Elites really don't have it too much better off overall than peasants in communist regimes.
Sure, you get some creature comforts here and there the peasants don't get, but the only difference other than that is that when you inevitably get whacked by The Party, people might actually hear about it. And assume you deserved it. Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (VoAdT) 352
Posted by: Sid at August 04, 2025 12:30 PM (H1Eab)
That’s a lie retard but that’s what you commie fascists do all the time. Posted by: polynikes at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (VofaG) 353
Global "Free Trade" helps everyone in general, but hurts some in particular, our working class.
Posted by: toby928 at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (jc0TO) 354
Us toothless, unwashed, illiterate, cousin-humping rednecks keep telling the world that they need the US more than the US needs them, and the world keeps being surprised that the rednecks are right. Every. Fucking. Time.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 04, 2025 12:31 PM (y9nCu) Well, as long as we keep lying back and thinking of England, they are right. Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (bss/y) 355
205 China has no government opposition or unions to deal with. Not to mention environmental laws and slave labor. The rest of the world turns a blind eye to that and trades with them anyway. Including us.
Posted by: Case at August 04, 2025 11:53 AM (fSxdA) I know, right! Posted by: The pacific ocean garbage gyre at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (OA79/) 356
nood!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 04, 2025 12:32 PM (dKEEs) 357
Them each trump's tariffs really killing you economy. Okay you Mr jobs wind. Recession incoming
Is this English? Posted by: toby928 at August 04, 2025 12:33 PM (jc0TO) Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 04, 2025 12:35 PM (ULPxl) 359
I drank a lot of Jack and Coke as a poor college kid. For some reason, Jack was really cheap around my college, and we mixed it with coke to stretch out the supply. Some fond memories. Some ... not so fond.
Posted by: Elric at August 04, 2025 12:23 PM (iFTx/) Yeah, I don';t get the Jack Hate. Jack and Coke, Jack and 7-UP was pretty much a 4 year right of passage for all the students I knew in college. I still will drink it on occasion cuz you know, it's like getting a McDonald's Big Mac. You know what to expect no matter when or where. Same quality. Better than ordering say a Sazerac and getting fobbed off with scotch mixed with Hawaiian Punch from some ignorant bartender, which you have to send back and get a Jack and Coke anyway. Posted by: naturalfake at August 04, 2025 12:35 PM (iJfKG) 360
> 51% corn, and aged in new oak barrels (for two years I think).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) --------- New, charred oak barrels. FYI Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 04, 2025 12:35 PM (Q4IgG) 361
"Bourbon" can be made anywhere; the name is not restricted to Kentucky distilleries.
Posted by: mikeski I checked up and you are correct to a point. US law specifies The Federal Standards of Identity for Distilled Spirits, codified under 27 CFR §5 Subpart I states that bourbon made for U.S. consumption[31][32] must be: "1) Produced in the U.S. (which includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico) 2) Made from a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn 3) Aged in new, charred oak containers 4) Distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume) 5) Entered into the container for aging at no more than 125 proof (62.5% alcohol by volume)[35] 6)Bottled (like other whiskeys) at 80 proof or more (40% alcohol by volume)"--from wiki But Tennessee markets most of its whiskey as Tenn Whiskey rather than Bourbon. Over 90 percent of what is labeled Bourbon comes from KY. Posted by: whig at August 04, 2025 12:36 PM (ctrM5) 362
Cuz the Yankees need slaves to maintain the Big Blue Wall of Electoral Votes.
Posted by: pudinhead at August 04, 2025 11:52 AM (W3T6M) You really are a Johnny One Note, aren't you. Posted by: At least I'm not a hillbilly at August 04, 2025 12:38 PM (5xuJ/) 363
I've tried the Gentleman Jack and it's slightly more like a standard bourbon, not like it's Tennessee cousin, JD. JD is the inbred family member meant to be locked up in tool shed.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at August 04, 2025 12:38 PM (9bq/n) 364
That bitch!
In Effort To Paint Sydney Sweeney As Unattractive, Libs Teach American Men She Is Republican Who Shoots Guns And Works On Classic Cars Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at August 04, 2025 12:41 PM (L/fGl) 365
I have never heard of Bucatini before, so thank ye, thank ye.
Posted by: Adriane the By That Definition, I am a Worm Critic . . . at August 04, 2025 12:42 PM (3ZUWJ) 366
ProTip: refrigerators do not like to be moved. Say, on the back of your brother in law’s pickup. Especially if laid on its side.
The Freon in older units gets caught up in places and unavailable for lubrication. When you get that vintage 1960 Coldspot or Westinghouse into the basement of its new home for the next 65 years Let it sit upright and settle in for a day or two unmolested, before plugging it in. The Freon acts as a lubricant for the compressor and will slowly trickle down where it needs to go. Posted by: Common Tater at August 04, 2025 12:48 PM (9IARY) 367
Why did the Dems flee all the way to Chicago? Honest question.
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