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Two More Trump Victories: Signs Deal With South Korea -- 0% Tariff on American Imports, 15% on Korean Imports -- and Forces Fake-Ivy University Brown to Drop DEI and Men in Women's Sports
Plus $350 billy of South Korean capital invested in US business. Directed, supposedly, by the US.
🚨 BREAKING: Brown University has agreed to pay out $50 MILLION after the Trump admin cracks down on their woke, discriminatory policies
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) July 30, 2025
Brown will also BAN men from women’s sports and ditch DEI, opting for merit-based admissions
MORE OF THIS! 🔥 pic.twitter.com/jwLAJiJXQ4
BREAKING: Brown University has just SETTLED with the Trump administration for $50,000,000 and has agreed to end DEI programs!
— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) July 30, 2025
The money will be paid out over ten years and will go towards job development in Rhode Island! pic.twitter.com/8OlmGLcj4F
'STUNNING': President @realDonaldTrump lays out the numbers revealing how his tariffs are raising revenue for taxpayers while leveling the playing field for American companies to compete around the world. pic.twitter.com/Jt1IqmStl0
— Fox News (@FoxNews) July 30, 2025
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what is happening?
Posted by: IS ROTH at July 30, 2025 07:04 PM (/kjAq)
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Wheee
Posted by: Accomack at July 30, 2025 07:04 PM (YVT+g)
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Plus $350 billy of South Korean capital invested in US business. Directed, supposedly, by the US.
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South Koreans will be extinct soon anyway.
Plus $350 billy of South Korean capital invested in US business. Directed, supposedly, by the US.
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South Koreans will be extinct soon anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:06 PM (HZi96)
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If Trump pulls this off, do you think NYC will put his name back on the golf course?
Posted by: Accomack at July 30, 2025 07:06 PM (YVT+g)
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Hey Trump, I would like some of that $350 billion that you're going to personally decide how it's invested.
I won't be greedy. I'd be thrilled with only $5 million!
I won't be greedy. I'd be thrilled with only $5 million!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:06 PM (uCjyK)
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I got a bad feeling American Eagle stores about to have some problems.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:07 PM (6ydKt)
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Everyone I knew who went to Brown were shamed because Stanford wouldn't accept them.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 30, 2025 07:08 PM (u/fjM)
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From the great Chris Plante:
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Yeah, rumor has it (source : Melania Trump) Trump does not wear jeans....
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Yeah, rumor has it (source : Melania Trump) Trump does not wear jeans....
Posted by: runner at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM (g47mK)
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I once spent a weekend partying at Brown U. I was fresh out of Basic/AIT, had a couple weeks to kill before shipping to Europe. My high-school buddy was at Providence College and knew a a few chicks at Brown. We went to a few of their parties. Mainly smelly neo-hippie chicks. I only banged one of them. The hotness outweighed the patchouli reek in that particular case.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM (2cS/G)
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South Koreans will be extinct soon anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:06 PM (HZi96)
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In the long run, we're all dead.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:06 PM (HZi96)
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In the long run, we're all dead.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM (ZOv7s)
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I just saw that someone went to a WNBA game and threw a dildo onto the court. I don't care who you are, that's funny.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM (3ha+O)
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Trump said "adding $200 billion next month".
So unless I see otherwise I'm going to assume he means $200 on top of the previous $150.
I'm telling you, tariffs used to benefit the U.S. greatly back in the day.
They got a bad rap during the Great Depression that they never really recovered from.
Tariffs are really quite useful if done strategically.
So unless I see otherwise I'm going to assume he means $200 on top of the previous $150.
I'm telling you, tariffs used to benefit the U.S. greatly back in the day.
They got a bad rap during the Great Depression that they never really recovered from.
Tariffs are really quite useful if done strategically.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (6ydKt)
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Kamala!'s not going to run for CA Governor. Bummer.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (0sNs1)
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Oregon is struggling with how to solve the dilemma of being told by Trump they have to stop discriminating against white people, especially men, and Asians or lose federal transportation dollars.
Or lesbian governor is getting special teams together to work out what they can do to try to retain DEI while getting that sweet, sweet federal largesse.
Or lesbian governor is getting special teams together to work out what they can do to try to retain DEI while getting that sweet, sweet federal largesse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (dfIr7)
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Trump is a definite machine. The Dems have no idea how to deal with it because he is largely ignoring them. That's why Booker was screaming at his fellow Dems, also because the fiercely heterosexual Booker is a blithering idiot
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (A7hgX)
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How many of these investment promises will be kept?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (63Dwl)
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there's a lot of winning, guys
I thought Trump's first term was successful -- but disappointing. Like a two-and-half-star movie. Yes, it did its job, but that's all it did.
this term is different.
I thought Trump's first term was successful -- but disappointing. Like a two-and-half-star movie. Yes, it did its job, but that's all it did.
this term is different.
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:11 PM (KRtlO)
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The hotness outweighed the patchouli reek in that particular case.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM (2cS/G)
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"Hotness." Guys fresh out of training don't need hotness, they just need tits and a pulse.
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM (2cS/G)
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"Hotness." Guys fresh out of training don't need hotness, they just need tits and a pulse.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:11 PM (ZOv7s)
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Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
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I just saw that someone went to a WNBA game and threw a dildo onto the court. I don't care who you are, that's funny.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM
It was green, probably representing an Orion.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:09 PM
It was green, probably representing an Orion.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (0sNs1)
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Smoke and mirrors. Just smoke and mirrors.
Posted by: Chuckie Cheese Schumer at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (L/fGl)
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South Korean naval shipbuilding - here or there - might be a necessary part of any quick ramp-up for USN hulls in the water.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2025 07:13 PM (ollJN)
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>>>19 Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
yes we mostly pay the difference though companies will often absorb some of the blow themselves
yes we mostly pay the difference though companies will often absorb some of the blow themselves
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:13 PM (KRtlO)
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there's a lot of winning, guys
I thought Trump's first term was successful -- but disappointing. Like a two-and-half-star movie. Yes, it did its job, but that's all it did.
this term is different.
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:11 PM (KRtlO)
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"In time, his victories could not easily be counted."
I like how nitwits spouting off at DoD are getting canned in real time. And the service academies are being purged.
The nitwit who pushed censorship thought she could to "teach" at West Point and was fired within hours of her "appointment."
I thought Trump's first term was successful -- but disappointing. Like a two-and-half-star movie. Yes, it did its job, but that's all it did.
this term is different.
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:11 PM (KRtlO)
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"In time, his victories could not easily be counted."
I like how nitwits spouting off at DoD are getting canned in real time. And the service academies are being purged.
The nitwit who pushed censorship thought she could to "teach" at West Point and was fired within hours of her "appointment."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:13 PM (ZOv7s)
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Trumpmas Every Day!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 30, 2025 07:13 PM (dKEEs)
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Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
Reason magazine keeps shrieking that and Trump keeps winning and the economy keeps improving. *shrug*
Reason magazine keeps shrieking that and Trump keeps winning and the economy keeps improving. *shrug*
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:14 PM (3ha+O)
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personally i think it's worth it. 1, you have to collect taxes SOME way, and some taxes are better than others, and 2, a little protectionism will make US industry more viable and generate more good-paying US jobs which will also reduce citizens' demand for welfare, thus relieving some of the tax burden on the rest of us
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:14 PM (KRtlO)
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Hard. Rock Hard.
Posted by: The Penis at July 30, 2025 07:14 PM (R/m4+)
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Whatever happened to the Chinese people crying about tariffs?
That was so randomly weird. Was it AI?
That was so randomly weird. Was it AI?
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:14 PM (fV+MH)
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Trade deal has all of the earmarks of Korean collusion.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (XeU6L)
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this term is different.
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:11 PM (KRtlO)
This time he had a plan and has never really got punched in the face, unlike last time.
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:11 PM (KRtlO)
This time he had a plan and has never really got punched in the face, unlike last time.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (6ydKt)
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The $350B investment will increase the trade deficit. I don't think I like that the President picks the investments either. The 0% tariffs one way are good but it would be cool if it was 0% both ways.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (P7Iz+)
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What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Epstein's List at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (0sNs1)
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Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
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Not necessarily. Sometimes the exporter eats the tariff to keep the price low, or the government will subsidize it to promote exports.
There is also the option of buying something domestic, and where those options don't exist, tariffs make it more viable to start domestic production.
Our nation flourished under tariffs. Core part of the original Republican platform.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
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Not necessarily. Sometimes the exporter eats the tariff to keep the price low, or the government will subsidize it to promote exports.
There is also the option of buying something domestic, and where those options don't exist, tariffs make it more viable to start domestic production.
Our nation flourished under tariffs. Core part of the original Republican platform.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (ZOv7s)
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Complicated picture and comparison, ace, but yeah this term is off to a good start. Imagine if the GOP were an accelerant, not a drag, and the judiciary wasn’t a complete train wreck.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (ollJN)
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I like how nitwits spouting off at DoD are getting canned in real time. And the service academies are being purged.
I'm enjoying how randos on Twitter/X are finding this stuff, @-ing Pete Hegseth or Marco Rubio or whoever, and the person is fired hours later. Often with a personal reply, even.
I'm enjoying how randos on Twitter/X are finding this stuff, @-ing Pete Hegseth or Marco Rubio or whoever, and the person is fired hours later. Often with a personal reply, even.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (3ha+O)
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Fox News yapping about Epstein in 5, 4, 3, …..
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (GLmO1)
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19 Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
Only if American customers buy the foreign goods.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
Only if American customers buy the foreign goods.
Posted by: Gref at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (aBgBM)
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22 South Korean naval shipbuilding - here or there - might be a necessary part of any quick ramp-up for USN hulls in the water.
I've been thinking about that. Between Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the US, and Australia, China has got to be feeling surrounded. Most people in that situation would try to make friends, but they seem determined to p*** everyone off.
I've been thinking about that. Between Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the US, and Australia, China has got to be feeling surrounded. Most people in that situation would try to make friends, but they seem determined to p*** everyone off.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
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I guess on the other hand, this is a stealth way to get taxes from the people who otherwise don't pay income tax. There is a bright side.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (P7Iz+)
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price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher"
Nope. Retail price may or may not reflect cost of goods sold...
Nope. Retail price may or may not reflect cost of goods sold...
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:17 PM (tubbA)
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19 Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
Ultimately, at the end of the day, yes, we the consumer will pay higher costs.
But it comes with quite a few benefits that make that reality worthwhile
1) it encourages domestic production of goods, which is important for employing people and keeping critical industries in the US and maintaining quality standards etc. (and not helping our adversaries)
2) the treasury raises a bunch of money
and
3) companies still have to compete on price. Chinese companies will cut their profit margins as much as necessary to compete with American companies. So the companies will likely be shouldering a lot of the cost in lost profit, so the tariffs won't affect us anywhere near as much as something like an end user sales tax does.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
Ultimately, at the end of the day, yes, we the consumer will pay higher costs.
But it comes with quite a few benefits that make that reality worthwhile
1) it encourages domestic production of goods, which is important for employing people and keeping critical industries in the US and maintaining quality standards etc. (and not helping our adversaries)
2) the treasury raises a bunch of money
and
3) companies still have to compete on price. Chinese companies will cut their profit margins as much as necessary to compete with American companies. So the companies will likely be shouldering a lot of the cost in lost profit, so the tariffs won't affect us anywhere near as much as something like an end user sales tax does.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
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Donald Trump ad. LOL. Actually, I think I'd be surprised to see Trump in blue jeans, but I suppose he may wear them sometimes to play golf or when relaxing . I think I 've only ever seen pictures of him him in his trademark blue suit and red tie.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2025 07:17 PM (2GCMq)
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South Korean* in that example, not Chinese. Although it's true for every one who exports to the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:17 PM (uCjyK)
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How many of these investment promises will be kept?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (63Dwl)
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My guess is they are promises in part to do what was already planned. But if nothing else, they are a symbol of bending the knee to American hegemony. All these countries need us way more than we need them.
The EU promises in particular are suspect. The “EU” made the promises to invest, but the EU itself has no real money. It’s just a governing body. So who is gonna make good on the 100s of billions the EU promised?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (63Dwl)
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My guess is they are promises in part to do what was already planned. But if nothing else, they are a symbol of bending the knee to American hegemony. All these countries need us way more than we need them.
The EU promises in particular are suspect. The “EU” made the promises to invest, but the EU itself has no real money. It’s just a governing body. So who is gonna make good on the 100s of billions the EU promised?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:18 PM (1fKd8)
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Tariff revenue will never balance the budget, even if enough is collected to do so. The temptation will be too great to spend it or use for tax cuts and "tariff rebates."
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (CNl8/)
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Or lesbian governor is getting special teams together to work out what they can do to try to retain DEI while getting that sweet, sweet federal largesse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (dfIr7)
Oregon's usual response to budgetary stress is to reduce head-count via firing all the white men possible, and promote as many BFFs to their spots
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (dfIr7)
Oregon's usual response to budgetary stress is to reduce head-count via firing all the white men possible, and promote as many BFFs to their spots
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (D7oie)
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personally i think it's worth it. 1, you have to collect taxes SOME way, and some taxes are better than others, and 2, a little protectionism will make US industry more viable and generate more good-paying US jobs which will also reduce citizens' demand for welfare, thus relieving some of the tax burden on the rest of us
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:14 PM (KRtlO)
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The marginal price reduction gained from outsourcing came at the price of massive blue collar unemployment. Whole towns were wiped out. Lansing has a series of open field where three assembly plants used to be.
Tariffs keep those plants open, and the workers earning money also increase tax revenue. It's a virtuous circle for everyone except vulture capitalists. Mitt Romney needed to add a fourth car to his garage.
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:14 PM (KRtlO)
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The marginal price reduction gained from outsourcing came at the price of massive blue collar unemployment. Whole towns were wiped out. Lansing has a series of open field where three assembly plants used to be.
Tariffs keep those plants open, and the workers earning money also increase tax revenue. It's a virtuous circle for everyone except vulture capitalists. Mitt Romney needed to add a fourth car to his garage.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (ZOv7s)
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32 The $350B investment will increase the trade deficit. I don't think I like that the President picks the investments either. The 0% tariffs one way are good but it would be cool if it was 0% both ways.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (P7Iz+)
Why would you want that, assuming you're an American?
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (P7Iz+)
Why would you want that, assuming you're an American?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (uCjyK)
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Everything seems to be the preferred rate of 15%.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (zZu0s)
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More violence:
Virginia councilman Lee Vogler was set on fire in his office this afternoon.
Virginia councilman Lee Vogler was set on fire in his office this afternoon.
Posted by: sal at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (f+FmA)
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China has got to be feeling surrounded. Most people in that situation would try to make friends, but they seem determined to p*** everyone off.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
China Is Asshoe.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
China Is Asshoe.
Posted by: All Of Asia and Africa at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (R/m4+)
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I guess on the other hand, this is a stealth way to get taxes from the people who otherwise don't pay income tax. There is a bright side.
That's an excellent point. I'm sick to my eyeballs of the free riders and the politicians who enable them.
That's an excellent point. I'm sick to my eyeballs of the free riders and the politicians who enable them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (Riz8t)
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Complicated picture and comparison, ace, but yeah this term is off to a good start. Imagine if the GOP were an accelerant, not a drag, and the judiciary wasn’t a complete train wreck.
The judiciary is getting stupider at a rapid pace, and I kind of appreciate that Trump is letting them continue to make mistakes uninterrupted for now. I'm sure that will end at some point, but the ruling that Congress isn't allowed to make laws is a new benchmark for hilarity.
The judiciary is getting stupider at a rapid pace, and I kind of appreciate that Trump is letting them continue to make mistakes uninterrupted for now. I'm sure that will end at some point, but the ruling that Congress isn't allowed to make laws is a new benchmark for hilarity.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:20 PM (3ha+O)
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You can bet the ranch that no one will pay the carbon tax on shipping.
Posted by: Accomack at July 30, 2025 07:20 PM (RBD82)
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23 >>>19 Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
yes we mostly pay the difference though companies will often absorb some of the blow themselves
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:13 PM (KRtlO)
The numbers have shown import prices haven't really grown much.
Apparently, the exporter is eating most of the cost.
Say you're making 100% profit on your item you're selling here using basically slave labor in Vietnam or China to make it.
Shaving 50%, 35%, 15% off the profit margin may be painful, but losing access to the U.S. market completely and getting 0% is deadly. That was huge leverage on Trump's part.
I think that's what's happening here.
Nations & corporations are making the calculation on their pain level now that they've realized Trump is serious as a heart attack and eating the costs, for now - like he told us they would.
Trump didn't chicken out, they did.
yes we mostly pay the difference though companies will often absorb some of the blow themselves
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:13 PM (KRtlO)
The numbers have shown import prices haven't really grown much.
Apparently, the exporter is eating most of the cost.
Say you're making 100% profit on your item you're selling here using basically slave labor in Vietnam or China to make it.
Shaving 50%, 35%, 15% off the profit margin may be painful, but losing access to the U.S. market completely and getting 0% is deadly. That was huge leverage on Trump's part.
I think that's what's happening here.
Nations & corporations are making the calculation on their pain level now that they've realized Trump is serious as a heart attack and eating the costs, for now - like he told us they would.
Trump didn't chicken out, they did.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:20 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: jsg at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (1l+t9)
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The EU promises in particular are suspect. The “EU” made the promises to invest, but the EU itself has no real money. It’s just a governing body. So who is gonna make good on the 100s of billions the EU promised?
Most of the deals include buying American energy, which I'm sure the Euros would like to do anyway. They need more, and they need less reliance on Putin.
Most of the deals include buying American energy, which I'm sure the Euros would like to do anyway. They need more, and they need less reliance on Putin.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (Riz8t)
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The assymetric tariff deals often are an attempt to account for no -tariff barriers in the other countries. EU, Indonesia, now South Korea, think also Vietnam and a few others.
Is the 25% on India Trump announced today just the final bit of “chicken”, to push for a better deal, or the real thing?
Is the 25% on India Trump announced today just the final bit of “chicken”, to push for a better deal, or the real thing?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (ollJN)
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A councilman getting set on fire does not seem to be getting as much attention as you'd think.
Does that mean that politicians are open season or?
Does that mean that politicians are open season or?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (zZu0s)
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China has got to be feeling surrounded. Most people in that situation would try to make friends, but they seem determined to p*** everyone off.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
The CCP is likely very aware now that they're facing a demographic cliff dive potentially worse than Japan or South Korea, and that their runway for being anything more than a minor regional power is rapidly ending.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
The CCP is likely very aware now that they're facing a demographic cliff dive potentially worse than Japan or South Korea, and that their runway for being anything more than a minor regional power is rapidly ending.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (3ha+O)
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Uh... South Korea has a Value Add Tax of 10%... which means our goods going into the country are still charged 10%... still a win... but...
Lots of countries have this tax in place... like Japan, 10%
Now, us having a Tariff on their goods, means our Home Manufactured goods get a competitive advantage HERE... but them not having a Tariff but a VAT, means a level playing field there...
But note, there is no VAT on Exports... so really it's about a 5% change in price for THEIR exports... compared to selling to their own country.
Lots of countries have this tax in place... like Japan, 10%
Now, us having a Tariff on their goods, means our Home Manufactured goods get a competitive advantage HERE... but them not having a Tariff but a VAT, means a level playing field there...
But note, there is no VAT on Exports... so really it's about a 5% change in price for THEIR exports... compared to selling to their own country.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (mP0Kj)
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I've been thinking about that. Between Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the US, and Australia, China has got to be feeling surrounded. Most people in that situation would try to make friends, but they seem determined to p*** everyone off.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
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China still regards itself as the Middle Kingdom and everyone around it is a tributary state.
Mao did lip service to 'national liberation,' but he still wanted China in control of its old dependencies. That's why as soon as we were out of Vietnam, China tried to move in.
There's a book about it...
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:16 PM (Riz8t)
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China still regards itself as the Middle Kingdom and everyone around it is a tributary state.
Mao did lip service to 'national liberation,' but he still wanted China in control of its old dependencies. That's why as soon as we were out of Vietnam, China tried to move in.
There's a book about it...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (ZOv7s)
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Is this the first time a President has gone out and acted on behalf of US Main Street, because I get the feeling this is the first time a President has gone out and acted on behalf of US Main Street.
I think "Too Much Winning" is DonaldJ Trump's real middle name.
I think "Too Much Winning" is Donald
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (gLikB)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (ZOv7s)
I've had the good fortune to be able to travel around most of this country.
It is absolutely breath taking driving through the rust belt, midwest, and what used to be company towns all across the country.
I don't think most people who live in cities can really grasp what happened to this country over the last 30-40 years.
Driving through miles of abject poverty, then showing up at a rinky dink town and realizing it used to be a good sized city, and half of the people in town were employed by the local manufacturing plant, and the other half were in complementary industries. Then one day, the plant moved to China, and the whole town went to shit, and most of the people who lived there's lives went to shit. And recently, the illegals have been showing up from god knows where to join the scene and also be only marginally employed and/or on welfare.
And that's like... a lot of the interior of this country.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (ZOv7s)
I've had the good fortune to be able to travel around most of this country.
It is absolutely breath taking driving through the rust belt, midwest, and what used to be company towns all across the country.
I don't think most people who live in cities can really grasp what happened to this country over the last 30-40 years.
Driving through miles of abject poverty, then showing up at a rinky dink town and realizing it used to be a good sized city, and half of the people in town were employed by the local manufacturing plant, and the other half were in complementary industries. Then one day, the plant moved to China, and the whole town went to shit, and most of the people who lived there's lives went to shit. And recently, the illegals have been showing up from god knows where to join the scene and also be only marginally employed and/or on welfare.
And that's like... a lot of the interior of this country.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:23 PM (uCjyK)
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A councilman getting set on fire does not seem to be getting as much attention as you'd think.
Does that mean that politicians are open season or?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
They were known to each other, and presumably the perps wife too.
Does that mean that politicians are open season or?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
They were known to each other, and presumably the perps wife too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2025 07:23 PM (/lPRQ)
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Mao did lip service to 'national liberation,' but he still wanted China in control of its old dependencies. That's why as soon as we were out of Vietnam, China tried to move in.
There's a book about it...
The Art of War?
There's a book about it...
The Art of War?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:23 PM (Riz8t)
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The most horrific words in English is: "this time is different"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (D7oie)
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That's why as soon as we were out of Vietnam, China tried to move in.
There's a book about it...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (ZOv7s)
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Got the tar beaten out of them too, I recall.
That's why as soon as we were out of Vietnam, China tried to move in.
There's a book about it...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (ZOv7s)
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Got the tar beaten out of them too, I recall.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (HZi96)
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Don't American customers shoulder the cost for these tariffs when they buy goods in the domestic market that were imported from South Korea? The price paid at the end point of purchase is necessarily higher because the tariff cost is included, yes?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
As I’ve been saying, a lot will be absorbed by the foreign concern in the form of lower profits with no increase in price to us. Foreigners have been getting fat on huge profits raked in from us. Lambo just announced it made 27% profit on cars delivered the first half of this year. Probably 35% of that was from us. They can eat a 15% tariff.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 07:12 PM (O7YUW)
As I’ve been saying, a lot will be absorbed by the foreign concern in the form of lower profits with no increase in price to us. Foreigners have been getting fat on huge profits raked in from us. Lambo just announced it made 27% profit on cars delivered the first half of this year. Probably 35% of that was from us. They can eat a 15% tariff.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (1fKd8)
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The winnin too damn high!
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (fV+MH)
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I like how nitwits spouting off at DoD are getting canned in real time. And the service academies are being purged.
The nitwit who pushed censorship thought she could to "teach" at West Point and was fired within hours of her "appointment."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
I'm at an INDOPACOM exercise planning session. The GM15 running everything was venting her poor widdle blue demonrat spleen about PDJT and Hegseth. Said that 70 idiots at DOT&E signed a letter they sent to Hegseth about them exercising their "duly assigned duties" over Golden Dome. All were fired in less than a week of signing/sending that letter.
I fucking hurt myself not saying I voted for that shit.
The nitwit who pushed censorship thought she could to "teach" at West Point and was fired within hours of her "appointment."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
I'm at an INDOPACOM exercise planning session. The GM15 running everything was venting her poor widdle blue demonrat spleen about PDJT and Hegseth. Said that 70 idiots at DOT&E signed a letter they sent to Hegseth about them exercising their "duly assigned duties" over Golden Dome. All were fired in less than a week of signing/sending that letter.
I fucking hurt myself not saying I voted for that shit.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (ttlGO)
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The $350B investment will increase the trade deficit. I don't think I like that the President picks the investments either. The 0% tariffs one way are good but it would be cool if it was 0% both ways.
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (P7Iz+)
I would settle for 15% both ways without extra trade barriers
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at July 30, 2025 07:15 PM (P7Iz+)
I would settle for 15% both ways without extra trade barriers
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:25 PM (D7oie)
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They were known to each other, and presumably the perps wife too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2025 07:23 PM (/lPRQ)
Whatever happened to pistol whipping or just shooting the guy?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2025 07:23 PM (/lPRQ)
Whatever happened to pistol whipping or just shooting the guy?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:25 PM (zZu0s)
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China still regards itself as the Middle Kingdom and everyone around it is a tributary state.
==
Grand Poobah, First Lord of the Treasury, Lord Chief Justice, Commander-in-Chief, Lord High Admiral ... Archbishop ... Lord Mayor" and "Lord High Everything Else"
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Grand Poobah, First Lord of the Treasury, Lord Chief Justice, Commander-in-Chief, Lord High Admiral ... Archbishop ... Lord Mayor" and "Lord High Everything Else"
Posted by: runner at July 30, 2025 07:25 PM (g47mK)
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The CCP is likely very aware now that they're facing a demographic cliff dive potentially worse than Japan or South Korea, and that their runway for being anything more than a minor regional power is rapidly ending.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (3ha+O)
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The difference between the demographic falloff elsewhere and China's is that the PRC implemented it both forcefully, and did so while trying to wipe out civil society, effectively destroying whatever traditional unity and trust was left.
South Korea actually saw an uptick, but it's unclear if it will be sustained.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (3ha+O)
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The difference between the demographic falloff elsewhere and China's is that the PRC implemented it both forcefully, and did so while trying to wipe out civil society, effectively destroying whatever traditional unity and trust was left.
South Korea actually saw an uptick, but it's unclear if it will be sustained.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:25 PM (ZOv7s)
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Nice to meet y'all !
Posted by: runner at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (g47mK)
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Elric and SpeakingOf are correct.
And sure follow-up on various purchase/investment commitments is a question, but a least 3 years of serious monitoring and policing lies ahead.
And sure follow-up on various purchase/investment commitments is a question, but a least 3 years of serious monitoring and policing lies ahead.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (ollJN)
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The EU promises in particular are suspect. The “EU” made the promises to invest, but the EU itself has no real money. It’s just a governing body. So who is gonna make good on the 100s of billions the EU promised?
Most of the deals include buying American energy, which I'm sure the Euros would like to do anyway. They need more, and they need less reliance on Putin.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (Riz8t)
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Yes. Hence the first part of my comment.
Most of the deals include buying American energy, which I'm sure the Euros would like to do anyway. They need more, and they need less reliance on Putin.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (Riz8t)
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Yes. Hence the first part of my comment.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (1fKd8)
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Then one day, the plant moved to China, and the whole town went to shit, and most of the people who lived there's lives went to shit.
_________
"But we enhanced shareholder return and added $0.02 a share!" - the MBAs
Then one day, the plant moved to China, and the whole town went to shit, and most of the people who lived there's lives went to shit.
_________
"But we enhanced shareholder return and added $0.02 a share!" - the MBAs
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (HZi96)
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Ian S.: "I just saw that someone went to a WNBA game and threw a dildo onto the court. I don't care who you are, that's funny."
I didn't realize Keith Olbermann was allowed on the court anymore.
I didn't realize Keith Olbermann was allowed on the court anymore.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (gLikB)
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I guess on the other hand, this is a stealth way to get taxes from the people who otherwise don't pay income tax. There is a bright side.
That's an excellent point. I'm sick to my eyeballs of the free riders and the politicians who enable them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (Riz8t)
Seconded.
That's an excellent point. I'm sick to my eyeballs of the free riders and the politicians who enable them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (Riz8t)
Seconded.
Posted by: Producers Vs Moochers And Looters at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (R/m4+)
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It's amazing what dropping fifty yottatons of conventional Fuck You on a generational thorn in your ass can do for one's foreign policy chances.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
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The Rockies are losing again
Posted by: gKWVE at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (gKWVE)
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What we don't know about the tariff battle: How much of what's imported has a state subsidy behind it. It could a direct subsidy or the company could have laws written in a way which gives them an advantage when trying to export.
I believe that's long been a problem and our feckless government, until now, has let it slide.
I believe that's long been a problem and our feckless government, until now, has let it slide.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (tT6L1)
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Ian S.: "I just saw that someone went to a WNBA game and threw a dildo onto the court. I don't care who you are, that's funny."
I didn't realize Keith Olbermann was allowed on the court anymore.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (gLikB)
Hey, he's a huge athletic supporter.
I didn't realize Keith Olbermann was allowed on the court anymore.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (gLikB)
Hey, he's a huge athletic supporter.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (UHzX2)
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They need more, and they need less reliance on Putin.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (Riz8t)
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I guess Putin could sell to the heathen Chinee, who will strike a hard bargain.
They need more, and they need less reliance on Putin.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (Riz8t)
_________
I guess Putin could sell to the heathen Chinee, who will strike a hard bargain.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (HZi96)
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Whatever happened to pistol whipping or just shooting the guy?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
He was trying out his new vented free-flowing five gallon gas can.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
He was trying out his new vented free-flowing five gallon gas can.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (/lPRQ)
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It's amazing what dropping fifty yottatons of conventional Fuck You on a generational thorn in your ass can do for one's foreign policy chances.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
Your jive got a bit thick there. Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
Your jive got a bit thick there. Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
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They were known to each other, and presumably the perps wife too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Ahh, the Biblical "known."
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Ahh, the Biblical "known."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (fV+MH)
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I thought Trump's first term was successful -- but disappointing. Like a two-and-half-star movie. Yes, it did its job, but that's all it did.
this term is different./i]
That is a good way of putting it. I was genuinely concerned that Trump was going to revert to NY centrist left type, but he's so enraged at what they did to him and tried to do that he's out for blood and that does nothing but benefit us. I am concerned for some long-term effects of some of this, but am willing to exchange that for some real wins here and now.
I know that sounds contrary to my usual position but the future is out of our hands and honestly there's nothing Trump can do that will make the left act any worse than it already was. If there are consequences in the future, well they would have been doing that anyway without being needled by Trump.
this term is different./i]
That is a good way of putting it. I was genuinely concerned that Trump was going to revert to NY centrist left type, but he's so enraged at what they did to him and tried to do that he's out for blood and that does nothing but benefit us. I am concerned for some long-term effects of some of this, but am willing to exchange that for some real wins here and now.
I know that sounds contrary to my usual position but the future is out of our hands and honestly there's nothing Trump can do that will make the left act any worse than it already was. If there are consequences in the future, well they would have been doing that anyway without being needled by Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Czech Chick at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (vK/Ja)
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Then one day, the plant moved to China, and the whole town went to shit, "
And now, the largest employer is... government. That's where some of the $36T went...
And now, the largest employer is... government. That's where some of the $36T went...
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (tubbA)
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He was trying out his new vented free-flowing five gallon gas can.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (/lPRQ)
Lol.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (/lPRQ)
Lol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
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I fucking hurt myself not saying I voted for that shit.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (ttlGO)
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That is awesome.
After finishing Walls of Men I was kind of burned out on China, but now I'm watching Youtubes smuggled out and they are seriously screwed. The stuff I've seen about the PLA makes me very confident about my assessment that we really have no evidence that they know what they are doing.
I was a planner, and knowing the stright dope (and watching the woke suffer) do make me think about re-upping, but then I remember that my wife will kill me.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 30, 2025 07:24 PM (ttlGO)
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That is awesome.
After finishing Walls of Men I was kind of burned out on China, but now I'm watching Youtubes smuggled out and they are seriously screwed. The stuff I've seen about the PLA makes me very confident about my assessment that we really have no evidence that they know what they are doing.
I was a planner, and knowing the stright dope (and watching the woke suffer) do make me think about re-upping, but then I remember that my wife will kill me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)
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"But we enhanced shareholder return and added $0.02 a share!" - the MBAs
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (HZi96)
Well, yeah, that's basically been the Wall Street / Bushian / Romneyian economic peoples talking point answer for most of my life.
"We have a record high stock price and our GDP is up 2%"
"Yeah, but, a lot of people lost their jobs"
"They'll retrain for the new service industry jobs! No one wants to work in manufacturing anymore! Cmon!"
Glad Trump doesn't view the world that way.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (HZi96)
Well, yeah, that's basically been the Wall Street / Bushian / Romneyian economic peoples talking point answer for most of my life.
"We have a record high stock price and our GDP is up 2%"
"Yeah, but, a lot of people lost their jobs"
"They'll retrain for the new service industry jobs! No one wants to work in manufacturing anymore! Cmon!"
Glad Trump doesn't view the world that way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (uCjyK)
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84 The Rockies are losing again
Posted by: gKWVE at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (gKWVE)
You can say that every day and be right 85% of the time.
I mean, that's better than Weatherman odds
Posted by: gKWVE at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (gKWVE)
You can say that every day and be right 85% of the time.
I mean, that's better than Weatherman odds
Posted by: jsg at July 30, 2025 07:30 PM (1l+t9)
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My high-school buddy was at Providence College and knew a a few chicks at Brown. We went to a few of their parties. Mainly smelly neo-hippie chicks.
“The odds are good, but the goods are odd”.
“The odds are good, but the goods are odd”.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 30, 2025 07:30 PM (JlejM)
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Oregon's usual response to budgetary stress is to reduce head-count via firing all the white men possible, and promote as many BFFs to their spots
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (D7oie)
Have a buddy at ODOTs Intelligent Traffic Systems getting let go tomorrow. He works on Tripcheck.com and all the ramp meters, electronic signs and other traffic systems.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:19 PM (D7oie)
Have a buddy at ODOTs Intelligent Traffic Systems getting let go tomorrow. He works on Tripcheck.com and all the ramp meters, electronic signs and other traffic systems.
Posted by: Beartooth at July 30, 2025 07:30 PM (pvAU4)
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Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
Got it in one.
But i really just had the intrusive thought to use "yottaton" in a sentence.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
Got it in one.
But i really just had the intrusive thought to use "yottaton" in a sentence.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (UHzX2)
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What we don't know about the tariff battle: How much of what's imported has a state subsidy behind it. It could a direct subsidy or the company could have laws written in a way which gives them an advantage when trying to export.
I believe that's long been a problem and our feckless government, until now, has let it slide.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (tT6L1)
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Yes. Foreign companies are tied into their governments much more than we think. Auto companies in particular. Within days of Trump announcing his first round of tariffs, the Japanese government announced they would cover them for their car exports.
I believe that's long been a problem and our feckless government, until now, has let it slide.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 07:28 PM (tT6L1)
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Yes. Foreign companies are tied into their governments much more than we think. Auto companies in particular. Within days of Trump announcing his first round of tariffs, the Japanese government announced they would cover them for their car exports.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (1fKd8)
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Glad Trump doesn't view the world that way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (uCjyK)
It was always fucking retarded from a simple logical, defensive strategic mindset- unless you were on the fucking other side (ex Clintoon)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (uCjyK)
It was always fucking retarded from a simple logical, defensive strategic mindset- unless you were on the fucking other side (ex Clintoon)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (zZu0s)
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And now, the largest employer is... government. That's where some of the $36T went...
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (tubbA)
Or hospital / college systems, which are largely directly or indirectly government spending too.
One of our fastest growing industries in the US is... healthcare, for example.
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (tubbA)
Or hospital / college systems, which are largely directly or indirectly government spending too.
One of our fastest growing industries in the US is... healthcare, for example.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:32 PM (uCjyK)
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that dildo story is going on 24 hours of run on the HQ.
I would not have guessed that.
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (fV+MH)
Dick jokes at the HQ?! Well, I never. I may be catching a case of the vapours.
I would not have guessed that.
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (fV+MH)
Dick jokes at the HQ?! Well, I never. I may be catching a case of the vapours.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 30, 2025 07:32 PM (gKWVE)
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The stuff I've seen about the PLA makes me very confident about my assessment that we really have no evidence that they know what they are doing.
China is really good at schemeing and undermining and suborning people, but they are always at such odds with each other and always soullessly struggling for an advantage that there's no unifyig goal, no overall plan, no grand scheme.
So they are great at ding things like buying farmland and unleashing blight or bug into the area to ruin agriculture, but not good at turning that into anything but "ha, F you roundeye!"
China is really good at schemeing and undermining and suborning people, but they are always at such odds with each other and always soullessly struggling for an advantage that there's no unifyig goal, no overall plan, no grand scheme.
So they are great at ding things like buying farmland and unleashing blight or bug into the area to ruin agriculture, but not good at turning that into anything but "ha, F you roundeye!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:32 PM (dfIr7)
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These15/0 reciprocal tariffs strongly indicate that 15% off the top is still below competitive/profit-making. So they assume that even with tariff and shipping costs they can still compete/profit in American markets (likely due to significant labor/production costs advantages).I guarantee you a Kia or Hyundai will remain cheaper than a comparable Ford or Chevy.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 30, 2025 07:32 PM (hlNLQ)
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They'll retrain for the new service industry jobs! No one wants to work in manufacturing anymore! Cmon!"
"Work smaahter, not harrrder"
Or something.
"Work smaahter, not harrrder"
Or something.
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (tubbA)
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"60 A councilman getting set on fire does not seem to be getting as much attention as you'd think.
Does that mean that politicians are open season or?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (zZu0s) "
I'm guessing the councilman is a republican
Does that mean that politicians are open season or?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:21 PM (zZu0s) "
I'm guessing the councilman is a republican
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (dKEEs)
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Mao did lip service to 'national liberation,' but he still wanted China in control of its old dependencies. That's why as soon as we were out of Vietnam, China tried to move in.
There's a book about it...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (ZOv7s)
I do wonder though if there is a great enough crisis, the various regions of China won't decide to choose their own paths instead of looking the failing central state.
It has happened before, though I admit the last time it was successful was during the Sung dynasty
There's a book about it...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:22 PM (ZOv7s)
I do wonder though if there is a great enough crisis, the various regions of China won't decide to choose their own paths instead of looking the failing central state.
It has happened before, though I admit the last time it was successful was during the Sung dynasty
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (D7oie)
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Oregon's usual response to budgetary stress is to reduce head-count via firing all the white men possible, and promote as many BFFs to their spots/i]
It was bad in the early 90s when I worked in the Department of Revenue briefly. It was all very large, spherical women who were a big clique and few men that were like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
It was bad in the early 90s when I worked in the Department of Revenue briefly. It was all very large, spherical women who were a big clique and few men that were like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (dfIr7)
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I love a skillful putdown.
Al Gore:
Today’s EPA announcement ignores the blindingly obvious reality of the climate crisis and sidelines the EPA’s own scientists and lawyers in favor of the interests and profits of the fossil fuel industry. Weakening safeguards that reduce greenhouse gas pollution will harm American competitiveness in a global economy that is moving away from oil, gas, and coal and will increase the suffering of communities that are overburdened by the dirty co-pollutants caused by burning fossil fuels.
Rick Rule@RealRickRule
Sir, I’ve followed your climate projections for decades. May I observe that your track record seems unblemished by success
https://is.gd/XY3bbD
Al Gore:
Today’s EPA announcement ignores the blindingly obvious reality of the climate crisis and sidelines the EPA’s own scientists and lawyers in favor of the interests and profits of the fossil fuel industry. Weakening safeguards that reduce greenhouse gas pollution will harm American competitiveness in a global economy that is moving away from oil, gas, and coal and will increase the suffering of communities that are overburdened by the dirty co-pollutants caused by burning fossil fuels.
Rick Rule@RealRickRule
Sir, I’ve followed your climate projections for decades. May I observe that your track record seems unblemished by success
https://is.gd/XY3bbD
Posted by: Archimedes at July 30, 2025 07:34 PM (Riz8t)
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Yes. Foreign companies are tied into their governments much more than we think. Auto companies in particular. Within days of Trump announcing his first round of tariffs, the Japanese government announced they would cover them for their car exports.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (1fKd
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That's a great piece of information. Thanks.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (1fKd
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That's a great piece of information. Thanks.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 30, 2025 07:34 PM (tT6L1)
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It was always fucking retarded from a simple logical, defensive strategic mindset- unless you were on the fucking other side (ex Clintoon)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (zZu0s)
It was most of the most dismissive things our political class ever said to us.
They should have just said "eh, how about, fuck you?"
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:31 PM (zZu0s)
It was most of the most dismissive things our political class ever said to us.
They should have just said "eh, how about, fuck you?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:34 PM (uCjyK)
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Foreign companies are tied into their governments much more than we think"
Yep. And by a huge margin...
Yep. And by a huge margin...
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:34 PM (tubbA)
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2025 07:34 PM (KRtlO)
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I do wonder though if there is a great enough crisis, the various regions of China won't decide to choose their own paths instead of looking the failing central state.
China is like India, its one of those countries that really should not be a single nation, but was forced into it by a more powerful dominating overlord. Their natural state is 75 warring smaller nations.
China is like India, its one of those countries that really should not be a single nation, but was forced into it by a more powerful dominating overlord. Their natural state is 75 warring smaller nations.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:35 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at July 30, 2025 07:36 PM (L/fGl)
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I'm about to say something profound...again:
President Trump is the FIRST President in history who can ask "Are You Better Off Now Than 6 months Ago?" and get a resounding YES.
I'm about to say something profound...again:
President Trump is the FIRST President in history who can ask "Are You Better Off Now Than 6 months Ago?" and get a resounding YES.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2025 07:36 PM (PTLBM)
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ace: this term is different.
A lot fewer zips in the wire. Trump had, ironically, a terrific break between terms to get his team assembled and ready for action. No way he could be doing what he is doing had his terms run consecutively. Too much bicameral, bilateral Deep State still entrenched for sabotage. Karma/Fate have smiled upon Trump though he certainly helps himself into such fortune.
A lot fewer zips in the wire. Trump had, ironically, a terrific break between terms to get his team assembled and ready for action. No way he could be doing what he is doing had his terms run consecutively. Too much bicameral, bilateral Deep State still entrenched for sabotage. Karma/Fate have smiled upon Trump though he certainly helps himself into such fortune.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 30, 2025 07:37 PM (gLikB)
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I'm confident that if I entered the Sweeney jean pool, my genes would triumph!
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 30, 2025 07:37 PM (u/fjM)
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But we enhanced shareholder return and added $0.02 a share!" - the MBAs
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (HZi96)
Well, yeah, that's basically been the Wall Street / Bushian / Romneyian economic peoples talking point answer for most of my life.
"We have a record high stock price and our GDP is up 2%"
"Yeah, but, a lot of people lost their jobs"
"They'll retrain for the new service industry jobs! No one wants to work in manufacturing anymore! Cmon!"
Glad Trump doesn't view the world that way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (uCjyK)
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Somebody moved his cheese. Trump said ‘fuck you, bring it back or else.’
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:26 PM (HZi96)
Well, yeah, that's basically been the Wall Street / Bushian / Romneyian economic peoples talking point answer for most of my life.
"We have a record high stock price and our GDP is up 2%"
"Yeah, but, a lot of people lost their jobs"
"They'll retrain for the new service industry jobs! No one wants to work in manufacturing anymore! Cmon!"
Glad Trump doesn't view the world that way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (uCjyK)
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Somebody moved his cheese. Trump said ‘fuck you, bring it back or else.’
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:37 PM (1fKd8)
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I'm not wedded to the truth of this statement, but i feel like we're still in very early days, in a very "meme" based phase of unfucking everything. Whether or not anything actually works, on paper or in practice, almost has to take a back seat to whether or not The People like it.
Doing everything pitch perfect doesn't matter if you can't turn this momentum into a movement.
Doing everything pitch perfect doesn't matter if you can't turn this momentum into a movement.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:37 PM (UHzX2)
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I do wonder though if there is a great enough crisis, the various regions of China won't decide to choose their own paths instead of looking the failing central state.
It has happened before, though I admit the last time it was successful was during the Sung dynasty
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (D7oie)
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China typically fragments and then a new dynasty is established. The Warlord Era is an example of this.
Arguably, it still isn't unified.
It has happened before, though I admit the last time it was successful was during the Sung dynasty
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (D7oie)
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China typically fragments and then a new dynasty is established. The Warlord Era is an example of this.
Arguably, it still isn't unified.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:38 PM (ZOv7s)
Posted by: man at July 30, 2025 07:38 PM (tubbA)
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"President Trump is the FIRST President in history who can ask "Are You Better Off Now Than 6 months Ago?" and get a resounding YES.
Posted by: Soothsayer "
6 months, more like 6 minutes.
Posted by: Soothsayer "
6 months, more like 6 minutes.
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:39 PM (fV+MH)
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Yeah the only way we get this term is Trump getting 4 years off to really get angry and build a better team. He was utterly unprepared to win last time, mostly using the run as a platform to promote his ideas.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Just delurking to spill some inside tea, as 27 years in the import-export biz does make me something of an expert. Tariffs are my life.
Imports have not only not slowed down, they're increasing. A lot. My company is booming, and hiring, and I have many, many contacts throughout the industry that say the same. We are setting transaction records on a weekly basis at this point. (And on a personal note, collecting a metric shit-ton of OT, now tax-free thanks to Trump.)
All the majors are still importing the same stuff; Kroger, Costco, Wal-Mart, Home Depot, you name it, all the biggies.
Which tells me that their consumers are buying more. Which means consumer confidence is up.
And while imports are up, exports are up even more, which is what we as Americans want, rapidly addressing a trade imbalance that never should have existed in the first place.
I'm seeing nothing but win from Trump's trade policies on my end.
Imports have not only not slowed down, they're increasing. A lot. My company is booming, and hiring, and I have many, many contacts throughout the industry that say the same. We are setting transaction records on a weekly basis at this point. (And on a personal note, collecting a metric shit-ton of OT, now tax-free thanks to Trump.)
All the majors are still importing the same stuff; Kroger, Costco, Wal-Mart, Home Depot, you name it, all the biggies.
Which tells me that their consumers are buying more. Which means consumer confidence is up.
And while imports are up, exports are up even more, which is what we as Americans want, rapidly addressing a trade imbalance that never should have existed in the first place.
I'm seeing nothing but win from Trump's trade policies on my end.
Posted by: Delurker at July 30, 2025 07:41 PM (NhiOW)
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Have a buddy at ODOTs Intelligent Traffic Systems getting let go tomorrow. He works on Tripcheck.com and all the ramp meters, electronic signs and other traffic systems.
Posted by: Beartooth at July 30, 2025 07:30 PM (pvAU4)
My guess is there is going to be a follow up audit on the issuance of "real ID" and Oregon dept Veterans Affairs. Both of which have been rumored to have serious discrepancies.
Posted by: Beartooth at July 30, 2025 07:30 PM (pvAU4)
My guess is there is going to be a follow up audit on the issuance of "real ID" and Oregon dept Veterans Affairs. Both of which have been rumored to have serious discrepancies.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:41 PM (D7oie)
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Yeah the only way we get this term is Trump getting 4 years off to really get angry and build a better team. He was utterly unprepared to win last time, mostly using the run as a platform to promote his ideas.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Trump 1.0 saw himself as a reformer. Trump 2.0 sees himself as an avenger.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:40 PM (dfIr7)
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Trump 1.0 saw himself as a reformer. Trump 2.0 sees himself as an avenger.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:42 PM (1fKd8)
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SK signed up for a trade deal? That's bad news, because now J. Powell will reset the fed rate cut clock until he knows everything there is to know about the impact the agreement will have on the penumbra and emanations resulting from a multi-billion dollar
Posted by: mrp at July 30, 2025 07:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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It was bad in the early 90s when I worked in the Department of Revenue briefly. It was all very large, spherical women who were a big clique and few men that were like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (dfIr7)
I will tell you some stories should we ever meet in meat space
They are not particularly insightful or entertaining though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:33 PM (dfIr7)
I will tell you some stories should we ever meet in meat space
They are not particularly insightful or entertaining though.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 30, 2025 07:43 PM (D7oie)
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Doing everything pitch perfect doesn't matter if you can't turn this momentum into a movement.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:37 PM (UHzX2)
That's it, right there.
Dead On Balls Accurate.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:37 PM (UHzX2)
That's it, right there.
Dead On Balls Accurate.
Posted by: jsg at July 30, 2025 07:43 PM (1l+t9)
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"but he's so enraged at what they did to him and tried to do that he's out for blood and that does nothing but benefit us. "
Also, not just what they DID to him, but what they still plan to do to him AFTER his four years. If he doesn't make the big changes, the DeepState will still come for him and his family (and they will try to do it even in his current term).
Trump knows DeepState and Globalists STILL see him as their existential threat.
Also, not just what they DID to him, but what they still plan to do to him AFTER his four years. If he doesn't make the big changes, the DeepState will still come for him and his family (and they will try to do it even in his current term).
Trump knows DeepState and Globalists STILL see him as their existential threat.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 30, 2025 07:43 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: mrp at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (rj6Yv)
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@43
>>Actually, I think I'd be surprised to see Trump in blue jeans, but I suppose he may wear them sometimes to play golf or when relaxing . I think I 've only ever seen pictures of him him in his trademark blue suit and red tie.
Trump slumbers in a sleep business suit that is made from the finest, softest Giza Cotton suit, he rises, Dracula style and dons his day suit.
>>Actually, I think I'd be surprised to see Trump in blue jeans, but I suppose he may wear them sometimes to play golf or when relaxing . I think I 've only ever seen pictures of him him in his trademark blue suit and red tie.
Trump slumbers in a sleep business suit that is made from the finest, softest Giza Cotton suit, he rises, Dracula style and dons his day suit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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I was a planner, and knowing the stright dope (and watching the woke suffer) do make me think about re-upping, but then I remember that my wife will kill me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
What is that word? Just kidding. Re-upped once before i gotdraftedinto the warrant officer ranks.
My 29 year olde ass introduced myself at the beginning of the meeting this week by stating, "I've been shooting down airplanes, helicopters, and ballistic threats for over 43 years. Closing our eyes, and wishcasting for air superiority is not going to win us anything in the South Chyna Sea. I'm here to try to convince you all to make the duck hunters work for this, and practice lessons hard learned by the Ukranians so we do win in this theater."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
What is that word? Just kidding. Re-upped once before i gotdraftedinto the warrant officer ranks.
My 29 year olde ass introduced myself at the beginning of the meeting this week by stating, "I've been shooting down airplanes, helicopters, and ballistic threats for over 43 years. Closing our eyes, and wishcasting for air superiority is not going to win us anything in the South Chyna Sea. I'm here to try to convince you all to make the duck hunters work for this, and practice lessons hard learned by the Ukranians so we do win in this theater."
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (ttlGO)
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"Doing everything pitch perfect doesn't matter if you can't turn this momentum into a movement.
Posted by: Warai-otoko"
Give it time.
Like Kimchi.
Posted by: Warai-otoko"
Give it time.
Like Kimchi.
Posted by: eleven at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (fV+MH)
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It's amazing what dropping fifty yottatons of conventional Fuck You on a generational thorn in your ass can do for one's foreign policy chances.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
Your jive got a bit thick there. Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
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I dug his rap.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
Your jive got a bit thick there. Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
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I dug his rap.
Posted by: Black Passenger No. 2 at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (wzAuc)
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Reminder: that stupid dumbfuck whore malaka harris was going to give away $25K to new house buyers.
Imagine what things would be like today if the Democrats stole the 24 election.
Housing costs would skyrocket, and the Border would STILL be Wide Open.
Reminder: that stupid dumbfuck whore malaka harris was going to give away $25K to new house buyers.
Imagine what things would be like today if the Democrats stole the 24 election.
Housing costs would skyrocket, and the Border would STILL be Wide Open.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (PTLBM)
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They are not particularly insightful or entertaining though.
I have never felt like a piece of meat quite like working at the state. Girls walked up to me at lunch and gave me phone numbers, which was unique in my life.
I have never felt like a piece of meat quite like working at the state. Girls walked up to me at lunch and gave me phone numbers, which was unique in my life.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (dfIr7)
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Trade is about $3 trillion a year. So match magic at a 15% tariff says we should raise $450 billion a year.
You could probably eliminate income taxes of about 75% of filers for that.
You could probably eliminate income taxes of about 75% of filers for that.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (v40FS)
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I'm not wedded to the truth of this statement, but i feel like we're still in very early days, in a very "meme" based phase of unfucking everything.
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Ahhh, the cornered rat problem.
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Ahhh, the cornered rat problem.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at July 30, 2025 07:46 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:47 PM (zZu0s)
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It has been endlessly comical watching Europeans whine and moan about how America is waging trade wars against them, like they haven't had heinous tariffs against the USA for 75+ years
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:47 PM (dfIr7)
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Actually, I think I'd be surprised to see Trump in blue jeans, but I suppose he may wear them sometimes to play golf or when relaxing . I think I 've only ever seen pictures of him him in his trademark blue suit and red tie.
Trump slumbers in a sleep business suit that is made from the finest, softest Giza Cotton suit, he rises, Dracula style and dons his day suit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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He wears golf attire on the links. But otherwise it’s a suit. Not uncommon for businessmen of that generation. There was a time not long ago when a high-powered businessmen wouldn’t be caught dead without a suit. I worked with a few of these types back in the day.
Trump slumbers in a sleep business suit that is made from the finest, softest Giza Cotton suit, he rises, Dracula style and dons his day suit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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He wears golf attire on the links. But otherwise it’s a suit. Not uncommon for businessmen of that generation. There was a time not long ago when a high-powered businessmen wouldn’t be caught dead without a suit. I worked with a few of these types back in the day.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 30, 2025 07:47 PM (1fKd8)
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President Trump should weigh 500lbs considering how he's eating everyone's lunch. Fantastic.
Canada's caving will be a lot of fun to watch.
And the only way the Brown University story could be better is if Trump forced them to change the name to White University.
Canada's caving will be a lot of fun to watch.
And the only way the Brown University story could be better is if Trump forced them to change the name to White University.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 07:47 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 30, 2025 07:47 PM (63Dwl)
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139 It's amazing what dropping fifty yottatons of conventional Fuck You on a generational thorn in your ass can do for one's foreign policy chances.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
Your jive got a bit thick there. Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
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I dug his rap.
Posted by: Black Passenger No. 2 at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (wzAuc)
What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!
Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help!
Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!
Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:27 PM (UHzX2)
Your jive got a bit thick there. Are you talking about dropping shit on Iran making others careful of how they step around trump?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)
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I dug his rap.
Posted by: Black Passenger No. 2 at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (wzAuc)
What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!
Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help!
Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!
Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:48 PM (6ydKt)
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Speaking of the heathen Chinee, just like the nuclear disarmament movement was largely funded by the Godless Bolsheviks, what are the chances the Chinx are subsidizing the Climate Change hysteria?
Speaking of the heathen Chinee, just like the nuclear disarmament movement was largely funded by the Godless Bolsheviks, what are the chances the Chinx are subsidizing the Climate Change hysteria?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:48 PM (HZi96)
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China is like India, its one of those countries that really should not be a single nation, but was forced into it by a more powerful dominating overlord. Their natural state is 75 warring smaller nations.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:35 PM (dfIr7)
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China keeps reunifying because it is mutually beneficial. The size of China means that - under a competent dynasty - famine is impossible. There are always growing, wet regions to feed those wracked by drought. Internal trade is immense and the vast rivers make ocean-going transit almost irrelevant. This is why China never needed a blue-water navy, but has massive riverine fleets.
A lot of people don't know this, but from 1928 to 1937 is known as the Golden Decade because when the KMT unified China, the economy took off and real development started to take place. Then the Japanese attacked and everything went to hell.
If Japan had held off for a year, Mao and his goons would have been wiped out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:35 PM (dfIr7)
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China keeps reunifying because it is mutually beneficial. The size of China means that - under a competent dynasty - famine is impossible. There are always growing, wet regions to feed those wracked by drought. Internal trade is immense and the vast rivers make ocean-going transit almost irrelevant. This is why China never needed a blue-water navy, but has massive riverine fleets.
A lot of people don't know this, but from 1928 to 1937 is known as the Golden Decade because when the KMT unified China, the economy took off and real development started to take place. Then the Japanese attacked and everything went to hell.
If Japan had held off for a year, Mao and his goons would have been wiped out.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:49 PM (ZOv7s)
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was largely funded by the Godless Bolsheviks, what are the chances the Chinx are subsidizing the Climate Change hysteria?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:48 PM (HZi96)
At least partially 100%.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:48 PM (HZi96)
At least partially 100%.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:49 PM (zZu0s)
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Ahhh, the cornered rat problem.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at July 30, 2025 07:46 PM (L/fGl)
As in, it doesn't matter where you strike, as long as you strike? The only way to win is to not not play? That sort of thing?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at July 30, 2025 07:46 PM (L/fGl)
As in, it doesn't matter where you strike, as long as you strike? The only way to win is to not not play? That sort of thing?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:50 PM (Dsfam)
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chris plante is awesomee, funny too
Posted by: cherries in season at July 30, 2025 07:50 PM (a5CpQ)
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I'm seeing nothing but win from Trump's trade policies on my end.
Posted by: Delurker at July 30, 2025 07:41 PM (NhiOW
Great post. Thank you.
Hope you post more!
Posted by: Delurker at July 30, 2025 07:41 PM (NhiOW
Great post. Thank you.
Hope you post more!
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 07:50 PM (jvJvP)
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Russia can't seem to catch any breaks.
First the earthquake, then the consequences called a tsunami. Now a volcano?
I guess Mother Earth has quit sniffing the glue?
First the earthquake, then the consequences called a tsunami. Now a volcano?
I guess Mother Earth has quit sniffing the glue?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2025 07:51 PM (Rk726)
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And while imports are up, exports are up even more, which is what we as Americans want, rapidly addressing a trade imbalance that never should have existed in the first place.
I'm seeing nothing but win from Trump's trade policies on my end.
Posted by: Delurker at July 30, 2025 07:41 PM (NhiOW)
It hurts! It hurts! Don't stop! Don't stop!
I'm seeing nothing but win from Trump's trade policies on my end.
Posted by: Delurker at July 30, 2025 07:41 PM (NhiOW)
It hurts! It hurts! Don't stop! Don't stop!
Posted by: The Penis, Super Hard Now at July 30, 2025 07:51 PM (R/m4+)
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>>but I suppose he may wear them sometimes to play golf or when relaxing
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Rare and awful is a golf course that would let anyone play in jeans.
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Rare and awful is a golf course that would let anyone play in jeans.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 30, 2025 07:51 PM (wzAuc)
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My 29 year olde ass introduced myself at the beginning of the meeting this week by stating, "I've been shooting down airplanes, helicopters, and ballistic threats for over 43 years. Closing our eyes, and wishcasting for air superiority is not going to win us anything in the South Chyna Sea. I'm here to try to convince you all to make the duck hunters work for this, and practice lessons hard learned by the Ukranians so we do win in this theater."
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (ttlGO)
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Funny how we can get pretty clever and ruthless when we kick out the fat chicks and the trannies.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (ttlGO)
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Funny how we can get pretty clever and ruthless when we kick out the fat chicks and the trannies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (ZOv7s)
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Kamala!'s not going to run for CA Governor. Bummer.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (0sNs1)
Besides specializing in BJ’s Kamalrammadingdong got ahead by knowing stuff—ie enough secrets to insulate her hopeless ass in the sinecure of the BJ moment.
Just a WAG but would not be surprised to see Kamala be a surprise singer(snitch) in the treason investigation Trump wants.
Deep Throat Part Deux
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2025 07:10 PM (0sNs1)
Besides specializing in BJ’s Kamalrammadingdong got ahead by knowing stuff—ie enough secrets to insulate her hopeless ass in the sinecure of the BJ moment.
Just a WAG but would not be surprised to see Kamala be a surprise singer(snitch) in the treason investigation Trump wants.
Deep Throat Part Deux
Posted by: Voter theater. at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (FCPbW)
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Jeans are not the best pants to be outside in when it's hot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
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what are the chances the Chinx are subsidizing the Climate Change hysteria?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:48 PM (HZi96)
At least partially 100%.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:49 PM (zZu0s)
What was that line from The Boondocks? 102% with a margin for error of 2%.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:48 PM (HZi96)
At least partially 100%.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:49 PM (zZu0s)
What was that line from The Boondocks? 102% with a margin for error of 2%.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (gKWVE)
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Rare and awful is a golf course that would let anyone play in jeans.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 30, 2025 07:51 PM (wzAuc)
Dear God, the chafing....
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 30, 2025 07:51 PM (wzAuc)
Dear God, the chafing....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (Dsfam)
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Trade is about $3 trillion a year. So match magic at a 15% tariff says we should raise $450 billion a year.
You could probably eliminate income taxes of about 75% of filers for that.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (v40FS)
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How did we go 135 years without an income tax?
Tariffs.
You could probably eliminate income taxes of about 75% of filers for that.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 30, 2025 07:45 PM (v40FS)
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How did we go 135 years without an income tax?
Tariffs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (ZOv7s)
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According to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, total US imports for 2024 was $4,110.0 billion.
Posted by: mrp at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (rj6Yv)
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161 Jeans are not the best pants to be outside in when it's hot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
Which for Syndey Sweeney is about 99% of the time.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
Which for Syndey Sweeney is about 99% of the time.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (6ydKt)
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Tariffs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (ZOv7s)
__________
And land sales.
Tariffs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (ZOv7s)
__________
And land sales.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (HZi96)
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As in, it doesn't matter where you strike, as long as you strike? The only way to win is to not not play? That sort of thing?
Posted by: Warai-otoko
A cornered rat can run so he fights.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
A cornered rat can run so he fights.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Something Smells Funny In Here at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (L/fGl)
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Which for Syndey Sweeney is about 99% of the time.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (6ydKt)
So light, diaphonous summer dresses.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (6ydKt)
So light, diaphonous summer dresses.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)
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How did we go 135 years without an income tax?
Tariffs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (ZOv7s)
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With the added bonus that it kept government spending in line with how well the country was doing economically.
They added the income tax and spending skyrocketed from there on out.
Tariffs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:53 PM (ZOv7s)
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With the added bonus that it kept government spending in line with how well the country was doing economically.
They added the income tax and spending skyrocketed from there on out.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:55 PM (6ydKt)
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Trump slumbers in a sleep business suit that is made from the finest, softest Giza Cotton suit, he rises, Dracula style and dons his day suit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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Silk pajamas, sleeps on a bed fit for a sultan. Rises and puts on a cotton morning suit, reads the paper, and then it's Power Tie for the rest of the day, unless golfing.
For men of his generation, jeans are a work uniform, not something one casually wears. I've gotten away from wearing them. For yard work I just wear old uniforms of which I have many.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2025 07:44 PM (XV/Pl)
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Silk pajamas, sleeps on a bed fit for a sultan. Rises and puts on a cotton morning suit, reads the paper, and then it's Power Tie for the rest of the day, unless golfing.
For men of his generation, jeans are a work uniform, not something one casually wears. I've gotten away from wearing them. For yard work I just wear old uniforms of which I have many.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:56 PM (ZOv7s)
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How did we go 135 years without an income tax?
Yes, but you see the flaw with tariffs is that you cannot use them to pressure people to do some things and avoid other things. Income Taxes are a tool to manipulate culture and behavior, which is why the left keeps wanting to raise them. They don't believe that the taxes are necessary for revenue, even if that's what they argue.
You can't use tariffs to get people to stop buying houses or having kids, for example. You cannot use tariffs to make it too expensive to home school or have at least one parent at home. If your goal is social engineering, tariffs are useless -- worse than useless, counterproductive.
Yes, but you see the flaw with tariffs is that you cannot use them to pressure people to do some things and avoid other things. Income Taxes are a tool to manipulate culture and behavior, which is why the left keeps wanting to raise them. They don't believe that the taxes are necessary for revenue, even if that's what they argue.
You can't use tariffs to get people to stop buying houses or having kids, for example. You cannot use tariffs to make it too expensive to home school or have at least one parent at home. If your goal is social engineering, tariffs are useless -- worse than useless, counterproductive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2025 07:56 PM (dfIr7)
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 07:57 PM (jvJvP)
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So light, diaphonous summer dresses.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)
I don't know what diaphonous is but if Sydney's doing it, I'll watch for a little while.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)
I don't know what diaphonous is but if Sydney's doing it, I'll watch for a little while.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 30, 2025 07:57 PM (6ydKt)
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And land sales.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (HZi96)
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It was a progressive policy, so not about revenue but social justice. Like popular election of senators, giving women the vote and banning alcohol.
That was probably the only generation stupider than we are.
And land sales.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 30, 2025 07:54 PM (HZi96)
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It was a progressive policy, so not about revenue but social justice. Like popular election of senators, giving women the vote and banning alcohol.
That was probably the only generation stupider than we are.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 30, 2025 07:58 PM (ZOv7s)
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The dirty little secret is that, other than some food products and maybe some metals, the USA can supply all of its own raw materials from within its borders and fully capable of producing anything anyone ever wanted given current technological limits.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 30, 2025 07:58 PM (v40FS)
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67 degrees in my living room now ... 100% solar panel for AC, so store some power in batteries, and some in cooling down the house.
Heavy rain this morning, only 100 watts for several hours, but temp was only 72 outside. Should have tilted panel array lower to get more winter sun, but winter ... have to burn wood, or pay 11 cents/kWh for electric. As is, I have too much solar power in summer (could connect my solar to grid, but don't for "reasons").
Panels and batteries cost me about $18K, return about $1K+/year. Not bad, but got it mostly in case of brown outs or outages, or other leftist government interference. And ... it is kinda fun to play with.
Batteries charged now, will run my mini-split all night off batteries, temp set at 73.
Heavy rain this morning, only 100 watts for several hours, but temp was only 72 outside. Should have tilted panel array lower to get more winter sun, but winter ... have to burn wood, or pay 11 cents/kWh for electric. As is, I have too much solar power in summer (could connect my solar to grid, but don't for "reasons").
Panels and batteries cost me about $18K, return about $1K+/year. Not bad, but got it mostly in case of brown outs or outages, or other leftist government interference. And ... it is kinda fun to play with.
Batteries charged now, will run my mini-split all night off batteries, temp set at 73.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 30, 2025 08:01 PM (vbXSk)
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New duty on Brazil bringing general tariff rate to 50%, imposed for "threatening" and unusual policies and actions by Brazil towards the US. Ripped/read directly from the main Russian newz site, so maybe a bit rough.
Didn't read into it. Aware that we are (rightly) greatly at odds with the idiots misruling Brazil currently, but this is pretty spicy.
Lessee - got 2 big bottles of cachaca. Actually was meaning to get some farina to make farofa for some Brazilian cooking. Coffee, citrus (FCOJ), guessing still main imports do Brasil? Gotta brace for impact I guess.
Didn't read into it. Aware that we are (rightly) greatly at odds with the idiots misruling Brazil currently, but this is pretty spicy.
Lessee - got 2 big bottles of cachaca. Actually was meaning to get some farina to make farofa for some Brazilian cooking. Coffee, citrus (FCOJ), guessing still main imports do Brasil? Gotta brace for impact I guess.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2025 08:01 PM (U/Byj)
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Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 08:02 PM (idIpT)
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Canada will recognize the Palestinians in September if certain conditions are met.
Everyone being this stupid shoukd have a 100% tariff put on them.
Everyone being this stupid shoukd have a 100% tariff put on them.
Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 15.5 % at July 30, 2025 08:03 PM (jvJvP)
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The dirty little secret is that, other than some food products and maybe some metals, the USA can supply all of its own raw materials from within its borders and fully capable of producing anything anyone ever wanted given current technological limits.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 30, 2025 07:58 PM (v40FS)
I don't think the rest of the world wants the USA to rebuild its manufacturing infrastructure to 21st century standards. it would be like the thirty years after the end of WWII, only with AI and an unlimited access to energy resources.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 30, 2025 07:58 PM (v40FS)
I don't think the rest of the world wants the USA to rebuild its manufacturing infrastructure to 21st century standards. it would be like the thirty years after the end of WWII, only with AI and an unlimited access to energy resources.
Posted by: mrp at July 30, 2025 08:03 PM (rj6Yv)
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161 Jeans are not the best pants to be outside in when it's hot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
Women tell me I'm hot all the time. They say 'Come here Chief, let me feel your forehead. Damn , you're burning up. Let me get a cuff and check your blood pressure. Sit down and drink this gatorade.' And that's without jeans.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 30, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
Women tell me I'm hot all the time. They say 'Come here Chief, let me feel your forehead. Damn , you're burning up. Let me get a cuff and check your blood pressure. Sit down and drink this gatorade.' And that's without jeans.
Posted by: Eromero at July 30, 2025 08:05 PM (LHPAg)
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Here's my idea for helping most of America...
there's been talk of eliminating property taxes, which are really taxes on just existing...
Change it to where only income producing properties can be taxed. If you raise bees, and make $3000/year, tax that $3000.
If you run a bar, and make $1MM a year, tax that. But a domicile that produces only children and/or cookies for grandkids shouldn't be taxed at all... ever.
there's been talk of eliminating property taxes, which are really taxes on just existing...
Change it to where only income producing properties can be taxed. If you raise bees, and make $3000/year, tax that $3000.
If you run a bar, and make $1MM a year, tax that. But a domicile that produces only children and/or cookies for grandkids shouldn't be taxed at all... ever.
Posted by: MkY at July 30, 2025 08:07 PM (cPGH3)
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ace, Ian S., A.H. Lloyd, Gref, Harry, SpeakingOf, and Elric:
Just wanted to say thanks for the replies to my question. I think I've got a better grasp of how the back and forth in this 15% tariff works, and why it's going to be so successful for the USA.
Much appreciated.
Just wanted to say thanks for the replies to my question. I think I've got a better grasp of how the back and forth in this 15% tariff works, and why it's going to be so successful for the USA.
Much appreciated.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 30, 2025 08:07 PM (O7YUW)
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thnx Delurker
Posted by: cherries in season at July 30, 2025 08:08 PM (a5CpQ)
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Why is my President wearing a Canadian tuxedo?
Posted by: holygoat at July 30, 2025 08:11 PM (O+7J6)
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In a lot of cases, health care is the biggest employer. Look for the biggest building in town.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 30, 2025 08:20 PM (TEi+a)
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it's $50B next month
still impressive, we seem to accepting a given bilateral trade deficit on the condition we collect around third to half the deficit amount in tariffs
so annually it probably collects as much as $700B or as little as $400B over the next few years, depending on how much trade deficits fall
still impressive, we seem to accepting a given bilateral trade deficit on the condition we collect around third to half the deficit amount in tariffs
so annually it probably collects as much as $700B or as little as $400B over the next few years, depending on how much trade deficits fall
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